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Started by Sarah B, January 31, 2024, 06:16:09 AM

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TanyaG

Quote from: TracieCarolinaGirl on October 01, 2024, 10:46:00 AMI'm terrified of the thought of friends and family finding out about the true me, especially at this late stage in my life.  I know I'm not alone in this.

I've found it helpful to explore how others might think of me, even if it is only in my own mind. That's made me realise that if it has taken me years of difficulty becoming comfortable with the idea that I am trans - and that's with me living with the idea full time - how long is it going to take anyone else?

No less time, I think.

So I have sympathy for family and friends who find themselves struggling with feelings of love and friendship on one side and this almost impossible to understand thing on the other side. For some people - and it is unfair, I know - there is stigma attached to being a friend or a relative of someone who is trans. For that reason alone, some will back away if they find out.

One way around the fear of finding out and the possibility, or likelihood of losing friends and family members is to never to come out, but that too has its disadvantages. Ultimately, there will be no easy way through this maze until such time as social attitudes change.

Another way around these fears for all of us is to imagine coming out as trans as being like moving to another country, making new friends and beginning over again. Lots of non trans people emigrate to find work or whatever, survive an equal dose of change to coming out of trans and thrive on it. They move away from their old family and friends, stay in touch with some, lose touch with others, but a new life beckons and since it is the one they want, they live it to the full.

People who emigrate make a sharp change - they don't stay half in one country and half in another. For some trans people it is possible to do the halfway thing, but many who have successful solutions have reached their goal by walking away from the past, including people they have loved.

So the question for all of us is, how much do we value in the 'old country' where we were in the closet and how much do we want from the 'new' where we are out? I feel being comfortable with that equation lies at the heart of a working solution for every one of us?
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TracieCarolinaGirl

Quote from: TanyaG on October 01, 2024, 12:26:43 PMOne way around the fear of finding out and the possibility, or likelihood of losing friends and family members is to never to come out, but that too has its disadvantages. Ultimately, there will be no easy way through this maze until such time as social attitudes change.

Can people successfully live a secret female life with new friend group from the trans community, while keeping their old relationships in tact and in the dark to their true nature?  Or does this at some point become untenable?
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TanyaG

Quote from: TracieCarolinaGirl on October 01, 2024, 12:41:25 PMCan people successfully live a secret female life with new friend group from the trans community, while keeping their old relationships in tact and in the dark to their true nature?  Or does this at some point become untenable?
To some extent yes, but it depends on your circumstances, and there is always going to be the question of keeping the two worlds apart. However, as a way of buying time to work out what you want from life, living in two worlds has some advantages.

Susan's offers such a virtual world, but since anyone can read the threads here, even non-members, so it has its limitations. However, since most of us have to go through a stage of identifying our hopes and fears and coming up with a life plan, Susan's has many strengths because there are so many others with similar experiences around to bounce ideas off as we are developing our plan, best done along with counselling and psychotherapy.

I've tackled how I lived in a parallel secret female world like you describe in the first couple of posts in my blog - to an extent I'm still living it, because there are family and friends who don't know I'm trans because they don't need to. While that solution works for me right now, it would change if I had gender affirming medical care (GAMC) but because of my particular circumstance, that isn't on the table.

Which is a way of saying that for anyone who goes through GAMC, at some point the two worlds will have to collide. The best option is to have all the talking done before that happens, and one thing a secret world can provide is a safety valve to stop you going crazy before you decide to let the collision happen and to help you allow it to occur in a controlled fashion.

If that makes sense.
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TanyaG

For instance, it sounds like one of your biggest fears is family and friends finding out. That's entirely reasonable and all of us experience that fear at one time or another. Thinking through 'how will family and friends take this?' is a difficult but healthy process.
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TracieCarolinaGirl

Quote from: TanyaG on October 01, 2024, 01:44:39 PMIf that makes sense.


It makes perfect sense to me.  What I'd give to have a cuppa with you and talk all things girly.  Thanks again Tonya.  Finding Susan's Place has been a real gift.
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TanyaG

I've just brought forward a third post in my blog which may help you at this stage. It is about what is called 'scripting'. Mine led me a merry dance for I forget how long. Whatever, this is the lovely Sarah's blog and I don't want to hog it because its for her and she has my respect.
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Hi Tracie

Nice of you to come here, you have put a smile on my face and thank you for taking the time to read my story.  You said:

Quote from: TracieCarolinaGirl on October 01, 2024, 10:46:00 AMHi Sara, I am so enjoying reading Sarah B's Story.  You mentioned your uncle said you should go and live your life as a girl.  I assume he was supportive?  Was the rest of your family suppprtive or is that why you left? Pardon me if you explain in the later blogs 😊.  I'm terrified of the thought of friends and family finding out about the true me, especially at this late stage in my life.  I know I'm not alone in this.

Yes, he was supportive and he found out on the grapevine in the family, about my brothers and cousins thinking that they found something, girl clothes in particular, but did not.  I will let you find that particular story amongst the other stories, it was funny to say the least.

The reason why he was supportive he also liked to wear some female clothing from time to time.  I think if I remember correctly, he said this after the first or second Christmas 87 and 88 where I was spending my holidays travelling as Sarah to see him and his wife, she knew and supported me as well.

I never told my family, about me and when they did find out, I was accepted unconditionally and you will have to read the rest to get the nitty gritty details.  You do not to have to apologise for asking and I'm more than willing to answer questions in regards to how I changed my life around.

In regards to telling your family and friends and being scared in regards to your issues is a natural response.  If you do decide to tell them, then that is up to you whether you do or don't.  I was never scared and one reason being I did not want them to know about me and that is why I left everyone behind.  One of the best stories of coming out to friends and family is, 'imallie's' story.

It is never too late to speak about who you truly are and you are never alone.  In my time there was no help to speak of and in this day and age you have all the help at your finger tips.

Once again thank you for reading part of my story!  I hope you enjoy the rest of it.  I still have more to write and I know there are others around here who would like to find out more.

Take care and all the best for the future.

Best Wishes Always
Sarah B
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Feb 1989 Living my life as Sarah.
Feb 1989 Legally changed my name.
Mar 1989 Started hormones.
May 1990 Three surgery letters.
Feb 1991 Surgery.
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Sarah B

Hi Tracie

You said:

Quote from: TracieCarolinaGirl on October 01, 2024, 12:41:25 PMCan people successfully live a secret female life with new friend group from the trans community, while keeping their old relationships in tact and in the dark to their true nature?  Or does this at some point become untenable?

Yes and as you may have gathered I'm one and I have read of others, where one leaves their family and friends behind, whether they know or don't know.

As I have said I originally left my family and friends behind and I did not tell them what I was going to do and I moved across the country to do so.  My family eventually found out and they accepted me.  I never told any of my old friends and they still do not know till this day.  I have just lived my life as me ever since, not telling anyone about my past.

I was never involved the 'trans community' when I changed my life around and Susan's is the only place where I'm involved.  Living my life as me is not untenable, because I have always been private, quite and shy and the less people know about that aspect of my life the better.

Take care.

Best Wishes Always
Sarah B
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@ TracieCarolinaGirl
Be who you want to be.
Sarah's Story
Feb 1989 Living my life as Sarah.
Feb 1989 Legally changed my name.
Mar 1989 Started hormones.
May 1990 Three surgery letters.
Feb 1991 Surgery.
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Sarah B

Hi Tanya

You mentioned the following:

Quote from: TanyaG on October 01, 2024, 02:17:13 PMI've just brought forward a third post in my blog which may help you at this stage. It is about what is called 'scripting'. Mine led me a merry dance for I forget how long. Whatever, this is the lovely Sarah's blog and I don't want to hog it because its for her and she has my respect.

It's certainly nice to see you here and yes it is where I blog about myself, not that I have done much in the last two months.  However, you are more than welcome to talk amongst yourselves about anything, even though I'm just standing in the corner listening in.

So you are not hogging this space and thank you for your kind words.

I'm going to go and make myself a cup of coffee and if I'm lucky I will find a biscuit or two.  Do you want one?

Best Wishes Always
Sarah B
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Be who you want to be.
Sarah's Story
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Feb 1989 Legally changed my name.
Mar 1989 Started hormones.
May 1990 Three surgery letters.
Feb 1991 Surgery.
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ChrissyRyan

Quote from: TracieCarolinaGirl on October 01, 2024, 12:41:25 PMCan people successfully live a secret female life with new friend group from the trans community, while keeping their old relationships in tact and in the dark to their true nature?  Or does this at some point become untenable?

Tracie,


Seems like leading a double life in a way.  I suppose this may be possible with great care.
I am not passing judgment with those comments.

Sooner or later a person attempting this may be exposed.  Some explanation will then be in order. 

Many a cross dresser or a Transgender person transitioning have kept their selves hidden for a period of time successfully, as many do not come out for a quite a while because of societal norms not favoring their desired self or presentation.

However it sounds as if you are asking if this can be hidden forever.  Maybe!  I do not know.  I doubt it.

See what others say. 



Always stay cheerful, be polite, kind, and understanding. Accepting yourself as the woman you are is very liberating.  Never underestimate the appreciation and respect of authenticity.  Help connect a person to someone that may be able to help that person.  Be brave, be strong.  A TRUE friend is a treasure.  Relationships are very important, people are important, and the sooner we all realize that the better off the world will be.  Try a little kindness.  Be generous with your time, energy, wisdom, and resources.   Inconvenience yourself to help someone.   I am a brown eyed, brown haired woman. 
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TanyaG

Quote from: Sarah B on October 01, 2024, 06:07:07 PMI'm going to go and make myself a cup of coffee and if I'm lucky I will find a biscuit or two.  Do you want one?
Yummy, ta!
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TanyaG

Quote from: ChrissyRyan on October 01, 2024, 07:05:48 PMHowever it sounds as if you are asking if this can be hidden forever.  Maybe!  I do not know.  I doubt it.
That's the issue. Sooner or later, the two worlds - the hidden one and the open one - will collide and its better if that collision is under some kind of control. But from what I know, most people who are trans go through a period of keeping the two worlds apart while they sort out the one they are 'in'.
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TanyaG

Quote from: Sarah B on October 01, 2024, 05:51:43 PMI was never involved the 'trans community' when I changed my life around and Susan's is the only place where I'm involved.  Living my life as me is not untenable, because I have always been private, quite and shy and the less people know about that aspect of my life the better.
This is a really important thing for many of us, I think. Coming out within a community in which you are known involves living through dozens of people with whom we have history doing 'resets' about us, which will be at least as messy as the resets we have done with ourselves. Moving and starting afresh simplifies that, and the emotional cost of doing so can be a lot less than the cost of staying around in the 'old' world.

It sounds like it worked well for you?
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Hi Tanya

You mention the following:

Quote from: TanyaG on October 02, 2024, 02:34:23 AMThat's the issue. Sooner or later, the two worlds - the hidden one and the open one - will collide and its better if that collision is under some kind of control. But from what I know, most people who are trans go through a period of keeping the two worlds apart while they sort out the one they are 'in'.

You see there never was two worlds for me and even to this day, I don't live in two worlds.  I never debated with myself growing up why I wanted or longed to be female, I never questioned anything I did in regards to changing my life around and I never questioned my gender, never expressed it either, well never out loud as a matter of fact.

Which is funny, it was not until I came across Susan's place, which was the end result of me seeing a documentary on 'Jazz Jennings' that I finally realised that I was a female, This was nearly 20 odd years after living my life as me, talk about being naive.  Yes and only rarely will I express myself as female and only around here in posts or conversations.  The point being I do not have to express that part about me as people just see me as a female and yes I tick the appropriate box, what sex or gender are you.

Even to this day I do not have to express my gender or sex.  For instance recently I had a cold and coughing caused my 'ribs' (or something, they don't know precisely what), to crack on the left which caused excruciating pain and I ended up in hospital.  One of the questions they asked me while I was in triage was; "have you had any major surgery and I said no".

You should have seen my nieces eyes pop right out of her head (she knows everything). or in other words I did not tell them about my past.  Week or so after being discharged, I received my discharge papers and on those papers my sex is listed as female, I did not tell them that, in other words all they saw was a female.

I'm not 'trans' (I don't like those words and I don't use them if I can help it) and never have been.  The words were not around when I changed my life around.  My life was continuous especially in Feb 1989 where I just put on more appropriate clothing for me and continued on with my life.

I left my friends and family as I did not want to hurt them and I did not want any repercussions of what I was going to do to fall upon them.  Yes, I sacrificed everything (hindsight of course) and the life I was living at the time and I have a family that totally accepts me for who I am, unconditionally.

So there never was two worlds for me and I only have ever lived in one world only and that is living my life as me.  Regardless of what people saw before I changed my life around.

You also mention:

Quote from: TanyaG on October 02, 2024, 02:38:06 AMThis is a really important thing for many of us, I think. Coming out within a community in which you are known involves living through dozens of people with whom we have history doing 'resets' about us, which will be at least as messy as the resets we have done with ourselves. Moving and starting afresh simplifies that, and the emotional cost of doing so can be a lot less than the cost of staying around in the 'old' world.

It sounds like it worked well for you?

I will never "come out" to any community, as there is really nothing to reveal.  I don't disclose my situation to doctors unless absolutely necessary and I'm hesitant to do so in the future.  I simply have a medical condition.  During my required therapy sessions, my psychiatrist encouraged me to come out to one of my brothers, who was estranged from the family.  However, I had already mentioned that, I believe my family was aware of my circumstances, thanks to my uncle who knew about me.  So it was pointless in coming out to my brother and I believe my psychiatrist sensed that I wasn't inclined to come out to anyone, as he never pursued that topic again.

Well moving away in hindsight was the best thing that I ever did, not that I knew that was going to be the outcome of what I did.  In a sense there was no questioning from anyone and there where no resets whatsoever.  So you are right I suppose, there is less emotional stress if one moves away, although I never suffered from doing so and as far as I know family and friends did not either, except for "where did she go" and my mum was emotional and had some concerns, when she spoke to me on the phone for the first time after I left.

You have no idea how well it just worked out for me, even I cannot believe how everything worked out for me, lucky? No, extremely lucky yes.

Best Wishes Always
Sarah B
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Be who you want to be.
Sarah's Story
Feb 1989 Living my life as Sarah.
Feb 1989 Legally changed my name.
Mar 1989 Started hormones.
May 1990 Three surgery letters.
Feb 1991 Surgery.

Sephirah

Why have I only now seen your blog?

Bad Lauren!

*parks up next to the pool*

<3

Are you doing okay now, hon? Hospital visits are never nice.

*hugs*
Natura nihil frustra facit.

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Sarah B

Hi Sephirah

Quote from: Sephirah on October 04, 2024, 01:28:48 AMWhy have I only now seen your blog?

Bad Lauren!

*parks up next to the pool*

<3

Are you doing okay now, hon? Hospital visits are never nice.

*hugs*

Honestly Sephirah (aka Lauren) I do not know. My signature 'Be who you want to be.' is at the bottom of all my posts and that will never change and the link to 'Sarah's Story' has been there since I came back to Susan's and just recently the most briefest outline of what I did is now underneath 'Sarah's Story' maybe you thought it was the title to the following bio information, now that is funny.  I could not have planned that even if I tried.

I've heard that your eyesight isn't great, and I'm truly sorry that you're facing more challenges on top of what you have already gone through.  However I'm going to be around for awhile and I want you around also so I can give you more of those big bear hugs.

Yes, I'm recovering, but just when I thought I was doing well, fate threw a wrench in the works, like poking a stick in a bicycle wheel. We all know how that turns out!

Best Wishes Always
Sarah B
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PS How did you come across my blog?.  Inquiring minds would like to know
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Be who you want to be.
Sarah's Story
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Feb 1989 Legally changed my name.
Mar 1989 Started hormones.
May 1990 Three surgery letters.
Feb 1991 Surgery.
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Sephirah

Last on a long list, hon. (I keep wanting to call people I know their real names, by their real names, and have to stop myself, lol)

It kind of sucks at the moment yeah, but I am more concerned with how you are doing? What is this wrench? I miss you around here, girl. Are you okay? Message me if you want to.

Love you <3
Natura nihil frustra facit.

"You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection." ~ Buddha.

If you're dealing with self esteem issues, maybe click here. There may be something you find useful. :)
Above all... remember: you are beautiful, you are valuable, and you have a shining spark of magnificence within you. Don't let anyone take that from you. Embrace who you are. <3
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Sarah B

Hi Sephirah

I think you miss understood me, I had a lot of doctors appointments this year, finding a decent one, having tests done all basically good except for the pain in my hip and so I was travelling along as normal.

I then got a cold I was doing ok and then a couple of coughs caused excruciating pain.  It seemed like my 'ribs' cracked but no, which resulted in me being in hospital.  On top of that my 'new' doctor moved on and now I have to look for a new one.  This is what what I was talking about when I refer to 'throwing a wrench in the works'

There is never a dull moment.

Have you read my blog now and what do you mean by "parks up next to the pool"?

Best Wishes Always
Sarah B
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Be who you want to be.
Sarah's Story
Feb 1989 Living my life as Sarah.
Feb 1989 Legally changed my name.
Mar 1989 Started hormones.
May 1990 Three surgery letters.
Feb 1991 Surgery.
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ChrissyRyan

Happy Thanksgiving to you Sarah!  Although you may not celebrate it where you live, have a nice day!

Chrissy
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Hi Everyone

I guess this post is one way of getting back into writing Sarah B's story.  Once I start writing my fingers fly across the keyboard, speaking my mind.  The following quote from one of Natalie's post, got me started and when I finished, I considered it was too long to put it in Natilie's Illiad.  I did not want to overtake her blog so to speak.  I will post a few lines in her blog.  With a reference to this post for those who wish to read it in full.  So without further ado:

Natalie said:

Quote from: NatalieRene on December 14, 2024, 09:54:30 PMI don't remember the exact date but towards the end of my 1 year of full time I had to get a second therapist in addition to my primary therapist.  I got a reference from my therapist.  I had to do this because to get SRS the surgeon required required from two therapists recommending the procedure.  I also went up to Philadelphia to get my consultation with Dr.  Sharman Leis.  It was over $20,000.  I remember wondering how the heck I would ever manage to save up that much money after checking and finding out my insurance covered none of the expense.

When it came time for my first visit to a psychiatrist, I dressed casually in a skirt, blouse, light makeup and my hair in a plait.  I chose this look because it allowed me to present as female without issue and to convey to the psychiatrist that I was completely serious about my intentions.  For my second visit, I wore a semi formal suit (power dressing), reflecting the way I typically dressed for work at the time.

After that, I don't specifically remember what I wore, but I went in as myself, regardless of the outfit.  Even then, I would have gone through with surgery immediately if I could have, though I knew it was still far off.

My experience wasn't too different from yours.  I had been seeing my first psychiatrist for at least a year when the subject of seeing a second psychiatrist came up.  I believe I was the one who raised the topic, knowing that two letters of recommendation were required for surgery.  My primary psychiatrist referred me to a second psychiatrist and after just three visits, I received my first surgery letter in May 1990.

This was about 16 months into my journey.  Around the same time and unbeknownst to me, my endocrinologist also wrote a surgery letter, which became my second.   After meeting with the second psychiatrist, I asked my first psychiatrist if he could write my surgery letter.  I was worried he might refuse and I was ready to seek out another psychiatrist if necessary.

Thankfully, I didn't have to go down that road.  He agreed to write to my surgeon, confirming I was a suitable candidate for SRS.  Looking back, this moment reveals how determined I was to have the surgery.  I would have found another option if he had said no.

Once I had the two required letters, I asked if I could have surgery immediately.  My psychiatrist said no, as I was only 16 months into living full time and the surgery required a minimum of two years.  Surgery ended up being nine months away.  Knowing I had the letters and a date had been set for my surgery the waiting was bearable and I knew the time would fly by.

Although I rarely thought about surgery in a detailed way, I knew I wanted it badly and just wanted to move forward with my life.  At the time, I didn't fully understand the depth of my determination.  Interestingly,  it must be said that through out the two years and before I changed my life around. I was not dysphoric, either in body or mind.

As the surgery date approached, I encountered one last hurdle: money.  I called my psychiatrist in tears, explaining that the funds hadn't come through.  I was borrowing $5,000 against a property I owned and had another $5,000 saved.  Surgery costing $10,000.  Looking back, I realize how desperate I was to have the surgery.  At that moment, I didn't know what else to do.

Fortunately, luck was with me and the loan from the bank came through.  Of all the things that I had done up and till this stage I had no problems.  The last hurdle paying for the operation nearly got me unstuck, because I had not planned this part very well.

In the end, the hurdles I faced, whether emotional, logistical or financial, only strengthened my resolve.  The journey to surgery was not just about the letters, consultations or saving the money. It was about living my life as a female that I always longed for and ultimately knowing that I had always been.  Every step, from changing my clothes to navigating the medical and obtaining my documents, reinforced that this path was mine to walk.

Take care everyone and I hope all your dreams come true.

Best Wishes Always
Sarah B
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Be who you want to be.
Sarah's Story
Feb 1989 Living my life as Sarah.
Feb 1989 Legally changed my name.
Mar 1989 Started hormones.
May 1990 Three surgery letters.
Feb 1991 Surgery.