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If gender roles suddenly switched

Started by Saraloop, October 21, 2008, 09:26:01 PM

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Saraloop

This is just kind of a 'what if' question for fun.

How would you feel if gender roles suddenly switched with one another all of a sudden? :-X

Like you wake up one day, and all men are behaving and thinking like the current female gender role, and all woman, like the current male gender role, and this is how life is going to be from now on.
I know nothing close could ever happen, but how would you perceive things if it did and how would it affect you as a transgender?
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Nero

Good question. I'll get back to you on that after ruminating a bit.

Before I do though, can you give more specifics - do you mean gender roles as in  - it suddenly being a woman's world and men are expected to assume a more subservient role and/or take care of house and home while the ladies bring home the bacon, men wear skirts and makeup, etc?

If not, what do you mean?
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Saraloop

Yes. Whatever expectations there are for women right now would be shifted to men, and men would behave and dress like women currently do. They are not affected by the current shift and to them everything is normal - Only you are suddenly thrusted into this reality with your current mentality.

:P
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Janet_Girl

So you are saying that it is a woman's world rather than a man's world.  Interesting.  For me now, I would not change anything about me or my life.  But now it seems it is female privilege instead of male privilege.  Again I would not change anything about me or my life.
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Saraloop

o. yeh but by switched it also means that women would then be expected to behave and dress like men currently are, just to make sure things are clear. Must not forget that.  :-X
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Janet_Girl

That is fine with me, I wear jeans and tees everyday at work so no change there ether.  Wearing a suit to work, yes women can look good in a suit.
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Lisa Harney

Quote from: Saraloop on October 21, 2008, 09:26:01 PM
This is just kind of a 'what if' question for fun.

How would you feel if gender roles suddenly switched with one another all of a sudden? :-X

Like you wake up one day, and all men are behaving and thinking like the current female gender role, and all woman, like the current male gender role, and this is how life is going to be from now on.
I know nothing close could ever happen, but how would you perceive things if it did and how would it affect you as a transgender?

I'll have to think a bit about the answer, but...what's "a transgender?"
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tekla

In a lot of things I do, and spaces I live in, there is no real difference as it is.  It might make a very scant difference in a lot of places.  Which I guess would be the real shock.
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Saraloop

Quote from: Janet Lynn on October 21, 2008, 10:36:04 PM
That is fine with me, I wear jeans and tees everyday at work so no change there ether.  Wearing a suit to work, yes women can look good in a suit.

ok, that's pretty cool.
Oh yeh, but also don't forget that you'd be judged for behaving like a woman(if you're currently a woman); you'd be called gay by naive women(who are now acting like men) ..plus other implications..

Just wanted to add that before I leave. I'll be back at some point in time. I'll check back then, Later. ;)
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annajasmine

I think there is two things to be consider here. I have actual discomfort with my body even if everybody changes that won't be affected. I would still want femine body as of now.

As for roles I have a question would men in this world would want to be thin and small like a lot women normally do in our world and would women want be big and strong? If so this would be a place physical anatomy is conflict with a person mental make up. For some reason that sound familiar.

Anyways I would take on the I roles want and guess I have to accept the ones forced upon me by society. Which would not be much different than now.

I don't think this would change my physical desired traits or what role I want to have in society. By switching everybody else around you just really just changed my labels.
Anna
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flutter

Yeah.....I'd have to give this some serious consideration.

I think I'd go on being a tomboy.... which I suppose would make me a femme?
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sarahb

I think what annajasmine said is right on the money. I don't think much would change except the labels. Right now we have one set of labels based on the perceived gender roles and what they entail. So if they swap, it's not us and our feelings that gets swapped, it just the labels that we fit under that swap.
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milliontoone

See I just don't really see stereotpical male/female behaviour.  Because their are always people who are the exception to the rule and these people are increasing in number as the years go by and I am not talking transgender people by any means.

I am talking the woman who wears pants to work instead of a skirt, the man who stays home to take care of the kids, female fighter pilots, male nurses all these things at one time have been considered stereotypical female or male things to do and now nearly everywhere you look you have people smashing these stereotypes, people who would not by any means ever describe themselves as transgender.

People are individuals, society constructs and defines behaviour labels in to catergories of male/female and sometimes neutral, what society doesn't define is thoughts, feelings, emotions and our innate nature to be and express who we are in context of ourselves AND the outside world.

So yes while to a transgender person presenting as the gender they identify with is usually important as we do like it or not live in a society where people perceive you according to how you choose to express yourself which is not neccessarily always a negative thing, (life could be very drab indeed without forms of expression), to a transgender person this is not what makes us male or female.

What makes us innately male or female is the simple, quiet knowledge inside that we are just what we are. A man or a woman for those who identify with one gender.
Or something else for those either between genders or who do not identify with gender as a concept at all.

So I can't recognize your constructs of behaviour because instinctively I reject labelling behaviour into male/ female.

But if you are talking dress if I woke up tomorrow and the man I feel I am was expected to wear skirts, make up and say for example well I feel that naturally I am not drawn to that so think I would struggle to feel comfortable with that.

However, one caeveat.  IF society perceived me to be a woman because of the way I presented then I concede I may have a problem with that.  That's why presentation, even surgery is not always the bee all an end all.  It is a neccessary tool to aid some, most even but not always all.

It's the knowing that counts far more, the feeling it the identifying with a particular gender nature and that is far more important than any amount of wigs, make up, packers, pant suits or anything else cosmetic.
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Kimberly

Quote from: Saraloop on October 21, 2008, 09:26:01 PM
This is just kind of a 'what if' question for fun.

How would you feel if gender roles suddenly switched with one another all of a sudden? :-X

I know nothing close could ever happen, but how would you perceive things if it did and how would it affect you as a transgender?

Oh, you mean like my Mother would stay home and fix everything that breaks and play with the computer a lot while my father would go to work each day an bring home food and stuff then watch tv in his spare time mostly?

Um, can't say it would matter. After all, why would it?

Quote from: Saraloop on October 21, 2008, 09:26:01 PM
I know nothing close could ever happen, but how would you perceive things if it did and how would it affect you as a transgender?
An technically, I am especially perplexed as to why social roles would matter for a birth defect in the first place, but perhaps I am just being dense...
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