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Importance of Girlfriend or Boyfriend Through Transition

Started by CC, October 22, 2008, 07:44:39 PM

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Rachael

I have no issues because its resolved largely....

I transitioned, im a girl to all who know me, and most dont know the past. My gender identity is firmly female, and its all congruent, what problem?
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CC

Quote from: Rachael on October 28, 2008, 02:49:43 PM
I have no issues because its resolved largely....

I transitioned, im a girl to all who know me, and most dont know the past. My gender identity is firmly female, and its all congruent, what problem?

My bad Rachael and I apologize if my comment seemed rude. I assumed that you were still dealing with transition based on the comments. I've only been back to Susan's for a couple months so I don't have all the players down yet.

Please accept my admiration for what you have accomplished and my apology for assuming.

Sincerely,

CC
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Wendy

CC,

There are many factors that play into the equation of transition or not.  Some include your age, if you are married, do you have children, your health, your finances, your mental state, etc.  These factors will influence who you would trust to tell.  Maybe I am wrong but I don't think many of my male friends would welcome me sharing my feelings with them.  However if I could find someone in a similar situation maybe they would not laugh at me and I could talk to them.  I got lucky and found some nice folks.

My 21 year old daughter is away at college and her comment to me was, "Dad you deserve a right to be happy.  Do what you need to do."  Wow that is liberal.

My 17 year old daughter that lives at home and is in high school said, "Dad you would not be happy to live as a girl because you will lose mom and be by yourself."

My wife says, "You know nothing about what it means to be a girl and you will not be happy."

Here's the entire level of comments from my 19 year old son for the past year.  "?"

How's my emotional state?  A mess.

Now I can sit here looking at the wall pitying myself and swallowing 50  pills a day or I can try and get on with my life.

It took me years to meet people that were similar to myself.  I am doing better now than a year ago.  I am not sure what I will do to in the future.  Right now I would settle on a doctor monitoring my hormones and prescribing the correct doses.

I am also trying to reenter society.  I could not have done this without the internet, my wife and a few TG/TS friends.  No I could not handle this by myself.

Be careful and it is good to find a friend(s) to listen.  Oh significant others of TG folks can also be good friends that will listen and share.

   
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pennyjane

<giggle>  i just had an experience with a transfriend that i could have shared with no other...and it was wonderful...it was a bonding thing and i will remember it forever.  turns out that about the same age we both decided to buy our first pair of panties.  now....this isn't something i can share with just anybody and expect them to "get it".  this girl did...we laughed our hineys off, remembering the "same" feelings and reactions to almost the exact same circumstance.

oh come on rachael!  are you seriously trying to tell any of us that something like that isn't just about as neat as a friendship can get?  it's gotta be that you don't have one so you are trying to convince yourself that you don't have any use for one....really, defies any association with empathy at all.  go get yourself a transfriend...you're in for a big thrill!
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Rachael

ah? panty shopping? okay....

I go underwear shopping with friends sometimes.. but its no magical experience... I'm probably too far along in transition to get any 'magical firsts' that i could experience with a trans person... to be frank, (only on weekends) i dont see much in common with a trans person that id not have in common with any girl my age...
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Jay

My ex sorta understood.. when we broke up she said in a letter that she was scared when I started transitioning as she new I would want to be free and live my life as a man. She wasn't supportive and didn't want to talk about it, never called me he, him or my name. I didn't like this.. But she was there to listen if all..

I think at the moment I would like some one here but its not a necessity I am to insecure to meet anyone..

I don't think it is that important unless you have someone who you can talk to about transitioning.


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pennyjane

rachael, you are one hard case.  you give no quarter.  i wasn't talking about going shopping for panties today....i was talking about remembering the event with someone who had the same experience.  if you at 11 or 12 was going out pantie shopping with your girlfriends as if it were no big thing....then, no....you poor thing...you will never understand what i'm talking about and i have nothing but sympathy for you.  you have missed out on some perfectly wonderful experiences, and no.....just like, i guess, any ordinary, run of the mill gg....it's something we girls have that you just simply never will...that's just too doggone bad...you have my sincerest sympathy.

no, not now....wow....i don't even go underwear shopping anymore...in fact, i think that's the one time in my life i ever went underwear shopping specifically.  now, i go shopping...i'm a grown up....not for underwear...for what i need....  do you really, honestly...tell the truth...have girlfriends that you go "underwear shopping" with....you gotta be pulling my leg!  God bless.
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Rachael

erm? yes? sometimes we do specifically go out shopping for lingere?
I dont see the issue really... kickers is knickers.. my first pair i dont even remember... And i dont get this 'thing you and ggs will always have' that i wont ever... i garuntee 99% of natal females wont remember thier first kickers... they had them when they were 3-4...

first bra yes... that i do remember... heck i kept the damn thing for sentimental value... thats special... knickers? XD

Maybe i am a hardcase, maybe you're right But i still havent seen one damn thing short if 'they can understand you like nobody else' that a trans friend can give... well, im a girl, girls seem to understand me? The trans stuff is mostly sideline and always will be... im strong enough to deal with the transition bits alone...
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Carolyn

#48
I have more or less 2 Boyfriends in this and 1 Girlfriend, not really...
Actually I have a very loving boyfriend who is helping me both in Transition and in College. I have known him for over 8 years, but he was just my friend until June 14th 2008. But basically he is a big stress reliever in my life. Then you have my best friend David Woods, God I love David he is just awesome! And of course my newest and more or less closest friend Dana, I've only known her for about 3 weeks, but I feel like I've known her for years.
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JasmineG

Ahhhh, the art of friendship during transition. Please allow me to give you my experience.

Unlike many other who have found significant others to share their life with, I have missed the boat, plane, bus or deadline when true friendship was being handed out to people. I think of myself as a good natured person. I go out of my way to do things that most people will never do just so I can hear someone say, "You're my friend." I've even done things where I didn't want to do them but I did them just so that I can hear those few words.

It began as child. I found myself alone not having friends in my life. I was an only child and I often found myself with no one to share. Being introduced to sex at a very young age, I related these acts to keeping people in my life. If you wouldn't be my friend because you liked me, I would have sex with you so that you would like me. I start at 5 years old.

This behavior followed me into adulthood and I still found myself giving up a large part of my life just to have someone say that they like me and would be my friend. My behavior caught up me and now I have a record to show for it. I was placed in intense therapy for 8 years to help me learn how to build positive healthy relationships. Every now and then, I still give away a piece of myself just so I can hear those few simple words, "You're my friend."

My last friend, I met her online in a TS chat room. We had lots in common. We were both TS. She had so much, I thought, going for her. She had a man that she was with for 13 years. She had a nice home. She had what I thought was what every woman wants out of a hetersexual relationship. But there was something very wrong. She, like me, had been traumatized as a child. Her childhood trauma followed her into adulthood. Whenever we would sit and talk, she told me the same story over and over and over again. I tired ever so hard to encourage her to seek help. But, she insisted that she was ok. When I would go to visit her, we would sit all day talking about what others had done to her. There was no positive talk from her. I tired to help with the limited help I had gotten and how I had changed my life around. I told her, "You're post-op now, you have a lovely home, you have a husband that loves you, let go of the negative things in your life." However, the more I said this to her, the more she became angry with me.

Two days ago, our relationship ended badly. She called my house to tell me once again about the trauma she experience as a child. I listened as I always did. It was like I was watching re-runs of the same drama show over and over again. I could say what she was saying to me in my head before she even said anything. When she told me about an issue she was having with one of her family members, I made a comment to her which she didn't like. She became very upset and starting insulting me over the phone. She never even allowed me to explain what I meant. The phone with dead.  I had had enough and determined that I'm not going to allow anyone to put me down in the name of friendship. So I block her number and erased her number from my cellphone. I wrote her an email explaining my decision to end the friendship. She insulted me some more when she returned the email and told me if I ever need someone she would be there.

Prior to her, I had a GG friend for 10 years. Again, I did many things that normal people just would not do. For instance, she whould go to Atlantic City and spend all her money and have no way to come home. When she would call me crying, I would get in my car and go pick her up. Atlantic city is 70 miles aways from my home. It was 3am in the morning. I was a friend that she could call anytime of the day and I would go do whatever she wanted me to do. Sure, she let me spend the night at her home occassionally. She would give me gas money when she had it like $10 to drive her 60 miles in one day. Or, she would treat me to a movie or dinner. But, last April, our relationship came to a sudden end. She had gastric bypass surgery and none of her family members came to the hospital to see her. I drove her to the hospital, I sat there in the waiting room while she had surgery and I called her family members when the doctor came out and told me she was doing ok and in the recovery room. I sat by her side for 3 days while she was in the hospital. No one of her family members was there. I drove her home from the hospital help her as much as I could. No one of her family members was there.  Yet, I made a promise to her back in 2007 that when I got my student loan check that I would lend her some money. Well, things went south when I did get my student loan check and I had to repair my car, take a taxi home from NYC that cost me over $600 dollars, pay tuition, buy books and buy my baby puppy that I wanted. When I counted my money up, I had enough to give her half what she asked for. I would give the other half a week later. I called her up and explained to her what had happened. She became very upset and told me that I put a dog before her and that I wasn't a true friend. She told me that all the times that she need me that I wasn't there for her but she was there for me. She called me a few bad names and the phone went dead. I cried and decided that it was time for our friendship to come to an end. I haven't spoken with her since.

I'm alone now and hurt. But, I trying to pull myself up because I have surgery in 8 months and I need to continue my preparation for that date. I have things that need to be done. But, in terms of friendships, I rather be alone right now then go throgh what I went through in the past 11 years of my life. I'm tired of buying friendships. I'm tired of buying love with sex acts. I really really tired right now. For the record, I haven't had a sexual act in over 8 years and I don't intend to have any sexual encounter anymore until I have heal from my wounds, mentally and physcially.

I just wanted to share my story for other in transition to see how things can go wrong when we seek friendship with the wrong intentions. Yes, it's nice to  have somone there to support you through transition. But, if it for the wrong reasons, it can be a lot of drama and pain. Make sure that your friendships are healthy relationships and not one side doing all the giving while the other side enjoys the gifts but deep down inside, they rather not be associated with you. Actions speak louder than words. Pay attention to how they treat you. If you find yourself always the one giving. That a clear sign that something is not right.

Jasmine
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pennyjane

hi hon.  i hate to admit it...but that's about the way it goes.  we move in a world of some very needy people.  give what you can and keep the rest for your own needs.  remember, loaning is transferring property with an expectation of return, giving is parting with property and saying bye bye to it.  if you give with an expectation of return then really you are just loaning.  when you give...it's gone.

tuesday night i was driving over to the bingo parlor to pick up my annie.  i saw, staggering down the street, an aquaintance of mine.  he was a mess.  he was drunk as a dog, had spilled liquor all over himself, barely mumbled what was his incoherence.  i picked him up, he was starving!  there was a mickey d's just there on the corner.  i took him there, bought him a couple of hamburgers and told him to eat, and wait...i'd be back for him as soon as i got my annie.

we came back, he was passed out in the booth.  he complained that his ribcage was killing him...we tried to get him in the car to take him home but his pain was too great.  we got help from the staff there and loaded him up...took him to the hospital.  i ran annie home and came back to stay with him.  seems he had two broken ribs, he's diabetic and his sugar was up in the 500's and his potassium was critically low.  i sat there all night with him in the er.

somwhere around dawn they got him stableized and he began being more coherent.  he was starving.  i told him i'd eaten his hamburgers hours ago and they were good.......he scrunthed up his face...sucked back the pain and mouthed out loud....."beeeiiitttccchhh".

yesterday we went to visit him.  he had no memory of any of this..he was angry with me for taking him to the hospital.  he is an alcoholic, a bad one, i won't ever get anything back from this, i didn't expect it and i don't want it.  it was a gift, not a loan.

if i see him staggering down the street again next week i'll stop, pick him up and do whatever i can do for him.  each time, one at a time..one day at a time...all we can do is what we can do, the rest is up to God.  and may he bless us all with...
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Andi

After reading about this topic and thinking about was said. I realized that outside of my family, I don't really have any friends.  I have my wife and I have a lot of co-workers and employees of vendors that I deal with everyday at work but not any that I can really call friends except for my wife.  My closest associates here at work would help me fix my car or something like that but if they knew I was transgendered, that association would probably end.  We had a girl that transitioned at work about four years ago and I heard all of the jokes and comments  the guys at work made when she was not around so I knew I would/could not come out at work.  I'm ashamed of myself for not speaking up for her at the time but I was scared of being alienated (still am).  I am in a position at work where I have to communicate directly with everyone from our Board of Directors down to our unskilled laborers and all of our vendors.  My job can be very stressful outside of my personal issues so my finances are at stake for coming out on the job.

After transition, (Tracy) moved on to another job and I have only seen her one time at a restaurant with her mother.  I did, however contact her a few days ago by e-mail to ask her who her doctor was among other questions and said that I would like to talk to her more.  She does not know who she is talking to a former co-worker.  She is going to be surprised when she finds out who she is talking to.  I was never part of the comments that were made about her at work so I can only hope she knows that.  She has been so nice with her offers of help and information by e-mail.  I'm looking forward to seeing her again and hope we can be friends!  I can use a friend I can talk to in person that has been through transition.
Andi
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