I think in the world there are 10 types of people
those who read binary, and those who don't

(OOH clever!)

... Yeah.

In truth, I think there are like 6M types of people.
Twins are just the same type, only negated.

Quote from: tekla on March 13, 2009, 10:48:08 AM
because we dont fit in boxes

No, but we play in them all the time, I made a hat out of one just the other day.

You can wear a box like a dress if needed... and wear box shoes...
Hmmmm, I'm envisioning a new line of wardrobe... I'll call it stepping outside the box (TM) 

Z

Quote from: Zythyra on March 13, 2009, 02:42:44 PM
You can wear a box like a dress if needed... and wear box shoes...
Hmmmm, I'm envisioning a new line of wardrobe... I'll call it stepping outside the box (TM) 

Z

Here's proof of concept:
http://kotaku.com/gaming/never-forget/gundam-box-cosplayer-remembered-by-akihabara-263158.php

you know, this is one place I never expected to see Gundam Box.

Hello to you all. As far as binary is concerned, I can think of myself as a female but since I dress as I please based upon what job I do, whether it is cold or warm (or having too many hot flashes) feeling very casual or not giving a rat's patuti about what other people think or needing to be presentable so as not to cause say angst to my visiting mother, it is how the binary world perceives me that causes me problems now and then.
    I used to be a cab driver in Las Vegas and loaded luggage and basically transported people about the city of lights and invariably several people, or daily really people would hop in the back and say, "my man, take me to..." or "How is going Buddy..." Thanks Buddy etc" so.... I did an experiment and much to my partner's chagrin, I went out and bought some basic makeup like lip-gloss, rouge and mascara and put it on two or three times.  It didn't matter, I still got called dude, buddy, man, sir etc. (It made my partner nervous but hey I wanted to be sure).  The customers seemed to react to my size, shape, voice, tone, clothing, and topics of discussion.
   In the binary world womyn/women are suppossed to stay clear of certain subject matters or topics, but I was never told Hey El you shouldn't discuss such things with women or this is a topic solely for men.  I discuss what I find interesting, and it's rarely ever shopping for purses or makeup, not even when I was young and wore such accessories (shopping with my Mom excluded, but not even then to my recollection). 
    Why should I have to stay clear of certain topics with anyone?  I'm a Taurus, and well, I like to dress comfortably even when I dress up to go out with my partner. I like soft, loose fitting clothing and that includes silk, if I can afford it, on rare occasions, and I wear men's and women's clothing dependant on the look and purpose. I didn't realize the buttons were on opposite sides, I just buttoned up.  The downside to this is, stuffy old women used to leave the restroom's in casino's  in Vegas and if I was coming out and they were entering and look to see if they were in the correct bathroom and sometimes give me a ration of .... .   
    I have been know to say "hey, I've got the same body parts as you do!", and think to myself (wanna compare b..ch?). They are not sleeping with me or taking long hot showers so what difference does it make if I identify as a womun or a man? Either you are interested in what I have to say or you are not, and if not you can politely excuse yourself from the topic of conversation or stay quiet and think about what I have to say.   
    I got called Sir so often I questioned whether or not I am a transsexual but I am perfectly fine being androgenous, except... I don't like it when I look in the mirror and feel as though I am seeing my father in the reflection. Well at least my folks accept me as I am.
  Often times parents raise a child in a non-bimodal manner and encourage a sort of androgeny, thankfully mine did just such a thing, and made being okay with myself as is,  a whole lot easier. Why can't we all be adaptible to all types of chores and topics and willing to discuss calmly all sorts of being?
   

Wow, a most awesome first post.  I'm impressed, or as close as I get anymore to that.

I mean I know a lot of binary is out there, almost like a gauze over everything, but its not like gauze is all that hard to get past either.  And the 'punishment' for transgressing these huge 'invisible social borders' gets less all the time.  And the more you think about it (and face it, most people don't ever think about it at all) the more you see it.  But to most its invisible.  And lots of people walk through it all the time.

I had my annual physical exam today. The doctor noticing my bright red toe nails, I commented I was tired of looking at the fungus beneath. He chuckled, agreed, asked if my co-workers at UPS knew about them, and went on. So you may be right: it is getting easier to wander cross the border. Little by little.

S

I agree, A Non-Binary world would be best not only for society but also for the Transgender community. I believe that The Gender Binary System stresses out the Transgender community because there's more people who want to pass through the Binary system then there is Non-Binary.

some will try to resist the idea that gender identity can even exist outside of established gender roles, even though one's identity is such a very personal thing.

but you know, yourself, that you have to continue to focus on your own identity issues, outside of local opinions, to get to the real you. for some, it may be a fierce need for personal acceptance of the self; in which case, you are at risk if you allow others to define the space where your identity must be confined to.

-ell