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SUICIDE: How many among you attempted or thought to do it?

Started by Shelina, October 04, 2009, 10:55:18 AM

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Steph2003

I've thought about it many times, but could never get up the courage to do it! 

I know that if I didn't start seeing a GT this year, I would have "bit the bullet."

Thank God I finally did what I've needed to do for 30 + years!!!

Love - Steph
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Jay

Attempted it when I was 13/14 took 40 parcetamols got stomach pumped. Touch about it quite alot since then.. a little less now!

I think I was saved for a reason the reason is........

Jay


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Deanna_Renee

I have never actually attempted to take my life, though I have come very close several times. I couldn't count the number of times that I have seriously contemplated ending my life (probably somewhere around an average of one or more times per week for the past 30 years). I have always reasoned that there had to be a reason why I was as miserable as I was, why I felt like such a f%^&ing freak, why my life was such a failure - I had no idea what that reason was, but I knew there was a reason somewhere.

It took me reaching that point of the deepest depression and the overwhelming feelings that I needed to become a woman or die, that I finally listened and started to do something about it. Now I am here and while I still have my moments of doubt and pain, I know what that reason that kept me hanging on is. I am determined to see this through to the end, I am determined to become the woman I have been waiting to be and if I can help anyone else along the way, then I will certainly feel that I have accomplished a great feat and my life will be worthwhile.

As it was stated earlier, suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Hang in there Shelina, it is always darkest before the dawn.  :icon_hug:

Deanna.
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Julie Marie

There was a thread that covered this extensively a few years ago.  I think there was about five pages of replies and it stirred a lot of emotions.

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,6105.0.html
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Hannah

Quote from: tekla on October 05, 2009, 02:34:07 AM
ANYONE - and everyone - even thinking about this needs to watch a documentary called "The Bridge."

I watched this on Hulu last night and it didn't do much for me in terms of taking suicide off the list of possibilities. The only thing that gave me pause was the impact on the people left behind, in the one case toward the end of the lady sitting in the darkened room the effect seemed quite pronounced. Nobody really cares about me on that level though, so I don't think it matters.

QuoteThe people who were stopped, or through some miracle did not die, never did it again, and regretted the decision

Except for the physical pain it caused me I don't regret having tried, obviously I didn't die but I can't say I won't do it again and properly. This transition thing is making things better so who knows. It's not the first choice anymore, but it's hardly a "never do it again, regret the decision" kind of situation. Is this normal among you other suicide failures or am I just being crazy?
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Alex_C

I think asking oneself the "to be, or not to be" question is part of being a self-aware being. Shakespeare's original quote is well worth reading, he really asks the question.

For me it comes down to, no matter how lousy things are, it seems wasteful to end this life when there's all the time in the world to be nothing, or an angel, etc according to your beliefs.
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Bellaon7

If a suicide attempt(s) makes it's way to your medical records, could this possibly complicate one's future?
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lisagurl

Quote from: Shelina on October 04, 2009, 10:55:18 AM
Share your experiences and thoughts on suicide please.

How about you sharing? If you are thinking about it you probably need some help.
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V M

My first attempt was at ten years old. I tried to hang myself in the tree in the front yard of my house.

I tested the branch to see if would hold my weight. I was a climber.

But when I jumped from the tree with the noose about my neck, the branch broke.

I landed on my butt and the branch hit me on the head. Both hurt rather much  :P

After a few more attempts later on and the State jumping my case, I hope I've learned my lesson

I am forty eight today
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- V M
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Tammy Hope

Yes.

I was fully committed to the idea 25 years ago. Was just waiting on my aged grandparents to die first.

the last of those died last year in her late 90's (3 of the 4 lived that long and the other lived to 83)

A lot happened in the mean time.

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Shelina

Quote from: lisagurl on October 06, 2009, 07:41:08 PM
How about you sharing? If you are thinking about it you probably need some help.

Well, almost all my suicide attempts were related to the straight guys I loved but who did not love me just cos am not a woman.

Attempts:
1999- Hanging myself to the curtain, my dad came just in time in my room.
2001- Poison (Rat killer), went hospital to cleanse stomach.
2003- Tried to jump off from the 6th floor, stopped by friends.
2007- Just the thought came to take sleeping pills, was VERY close but didn't have it just that day.
2009- Successfully took sleeping pills but failed to die. This is the most recent and was beginning of last month, lost job, lost family, lost friends, lost my love one, lost all. From vertigenous prestigious height to ending completely down as a pariah.
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V M

Stop!!! Suicide does not solve the problem.

Stick around, there are much better solutions.

Even if you don't know it now, You have much to contribute to this world
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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Shelina

Quote from: Bellaon7 on October 07, 2009, 12:56:02 AM
Is there anything we can do to help? I understand my best wishes may not be able to help you, but please understand, you are not given up on. I cannot speak for others, but you've been on my mind for many days. Please know that no that no matter what "a mom" is praying for you.

Thanks my virtual mommy!  ;D Well, everyone's moral support, care and love is already helping me tons, I don't think I need anything more, this is amply enough and a lot.
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Deanna_Renee

Good, now let's not hear any more about this topic! Okay? Everyone smiling? Hugs for everyone  :icon_hug: :icon_hug: :icon_hug: :icon_hug: :icon_hug:

Deanna
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Myself

I used to have a lot of suicidal thoughts.
Best I could was (just once) run a knife over my veins thinking of cutting but not being able to.

A while after starting HRT, all suicidal behaviour disappeared..
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shazz

Thought about it more then a few times (tried it twice), mostly due to depression brought about by lack of a job, no money, no friends (they all left to do other things, I think 1 joined the army, some of them went to university, got married or left the area) and where I was living at the time (it was right dump).

The first time the voices in my head stopped me, (I'm sure the first voice was Rufus, a half-zombie character I use to play in a fantasy role-playing game, the second was Sara, a vampire character I played in Vampire: The Masquerade). Rufus basically went on about hope, the future and do I really know things won't improve for all I know I could pick up a paper tomorrow and find the perfect job. Sara went on about what she misses, like the feel of the sun on her skin; she used to like playing in the sun when she was a little girl, now if she steps out in the sun she'll get fried to a crisp. It was when she mentioned my dog it struck home (I had a pet dog), it could be a while before any finds my body, he's going to need feeding until then, what's he going live on? And what will happen to him when they find you?

Don't you just hate it when the voices use your emotions against you?

The second time my ex stopped me; I was living in a room on a housing co-operative at the time. This was the situation. The room above mine was occupied by Chris,  he liked to listen to music (he liked it so much he wanted to share it with the whole co-operative)  10 am to 2am there was a constant "boom boom boom" (the mirror above the sink rattled, the pipes rattled, the window rattled, you touch the walls you could feel it, you could feel it though the floor, the bed), going up and banging on the door to ask him to turn it down doesn't work because he can't hear over the music. The woman who used to live in the room below me moved out because she couldn't hear the television over the noise. Next door to me you had Tony, forever arguing with his girlfriend, throwing her out, taking her back, having making up sex (you ever tried to sleep when the couple in the next room and having noisy sex?, lots of moans, yes's and enough Oh God's to classify as a religious experience), I think I know what she saw in him. When he wasn't arguing with his girlfriend or making up, he was cleaning the shared toilet (case of OCD) or body-building (used to take steroids or some something, made him schizophrenic). Next door to him you had Andy, he's sense of personal hygiene was near enough non-existent, you could still tell when he when in or out of his room 5 minutes later due to the smell he left behind. He used to ask me to help him with the latest game he bought for his PS2 or more then likely find out if I had any cheats for it, I tried not to stay to long since my eyes used to sting after about 3 minutes they were sore after 5 minutes. Tony used to yell at him about the smell and of course since I was the equal opportunities rep for the courtyard Andy used to come to me to lodge a complaint, any advice I gave to Andy used to go in one ear and out the other. I had Chris up stars with his music, Tony yelling at Andy, Andy complaining to me about Tony, Tony yelling at me because the amount of time Andy used to spend in my room complaining was making my room smell.

And to top it all of the careers adviser the job centre referred me to never listened me, he sent me to the same employer 3 times for the same job, who in turn gave me a whole load of reasons why I wasn't suitable, over qualified for a start, she did ask me if she was to offer me the job would I take it, I said no because I got the impression that if I said yes she would just give me more reasons why I'm not suitable, which I think was the answer she was looking for. As soon I got back the first question he asked was "did you take the job?"
"No because she never offered it to me"
but I got as far as "no" when he started going on about how that was a refusal to work, and how he's going to have to refer me back to the jobs centre, who will stop my benefits for 6 months.

I had enough went back to my room and tried to slash my wrists, what stopped me? I suddenly remembered it was my ex's birthday in a few days, birthdays are meant to be happy. I went around to see her at her friends flat, broke down in a flood of tears told her everything, she took me to see "the font of all human knowledge" AKA her housemates (between them they have more degrees, qualifications, diplomas, etc then you can shake a stick at, they been everywhere, seen everything, tried everything, etc, as long as it doesn't involve understanding female logic they can answer anything). One of the blokes there asked "if she never offered you the job, how could it be a refusal to work? If that ar****le wants to mess you around and try to get your claim shut down just go down to the job centre and make a fresh claim, if they ask tell them, oh, and be polite about it calling the ar****le an ar****le won't help. As for the ar****le's you share a house with, since their going to knock the place down to make way for the Olympic village, they've got to re-house us so you'll never seen those ar****le's again" On the way back to her friends house she told me about one of the bloke's in her house and his girlfriend. He was planning to surprise her by prosing, bought the ring, booked a romantic weekend in Paris, the works, just about to phone her up and she dumped him by text, he was planning to spend the rest of his saving on buying enough drugs to kill an elephant and just ODing, they talked him out of it.

I'm not sure if that bit about her housemate is true or she just said that to cheer me up, along the lines of "no matter how bad you feel, there always someone worse off"

sorry about the length - guess i got carried away
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Shazz
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Miniar

Quote from: Deanna_Renee on October 07, 2009, 01:38:48 AM
Good, now let's not hear any more about this topic! Okay? Everyone smiling? Hugs for everyone

This would be why I rarely talk about my depression.
It bothers people to know that I'm not as stable as I appear. It bothers people to know that I contemplate suicide. It bothers people to know that I have, for a long time, had a hard time finding a reason for living.

I have reasons though. I have responsibilities, people I care about that I can't leave at this point, and I have a chance to change some of what's weighing me down (transitioning). So, don't start telling me to stay around, I'm not leaving yet.

I don't want to be the guy that people pity.
I don't want to be the guy that makes people sad or upset.
I don't want to be the guy that gets yelled at for emotions.
etc.. etc.. etc..
Along those lines.

And so, usually, I say nothing.
There are a lot of friends that never know when I break down, even if the only thing I want to do is to reach out to another human being for a little support, I keep quiet most of the time because people will just try to cheer me up, or give me tough love, or act like it'll all go away, or suggest we don't talk about it any more.
I've allowed myself a couple of times to vent here, to this forum, or rather, just.. mention it.. which took a lot out of me.
There's only one person who gets to see me break, my partner, and even from him I tend to hide it cause I don't want to make him worried.

It's no easier for me this way. It's easier for other people.
And I don't want to burden other people with my personal problems.
But it makes it so much worse, to go it alone, and feel like you can't breathe a word, because it would burden other people.

And this is probably the hardest thread on the forum for me to post in.



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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heatherrose




Quote from: Miniar on October 07, 2009, 04:37:29 AM...it makes it so much worse, to go it alone, and feel like you can't breathe a word, because it would burden other people.

Mine own thoughts.




"I have always wanted to have a neighbor just like you,
I've always wanted to live in a neighborhood with you.

So let's make the most of this beautiful day,
Since we're together, we might as well say,
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?
Won't you be my neighbor?" - Fred Rogers
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Walter

Thought about it once when I was 11. Never attempted or anything. Just thought about it...but I came too close for my own liking. Even though I'm not the happiest person or even look the happiest (see avatar) in the world, I'd never do it. NEVER
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GamerJames

Quote from: Miniar on October 07, 2009, 04:37:29 AM
And I don't want to burden other people with my personal problems.

^This^ has been my life's anthem so far... Almost everything I've done in my life has been to "make things okay" for other people or to "be good". When it comes to my own needs, I don't feel that I have any right to put people out just for my own needs. So I try to just "get through this" as best I can. Problem is, bottling it up like that makes me a pressure cooker, ready to blow at any time. I snap at my partner, get grumpy or distanced from my kids, avoid my friends and family, or just sob uncontrollably when nobody's around to try and "get it all out" before anyone can see.

Similar to Miniar, I can't take my life right now, because I have my kids to worry about. In my case, they would be well taken care of by their dad (who I share custody with currently), but I know that having a parent commit suicide is a horrible thing to go through, and I can't do that to them. Especially after everything I've already done to them (left their dad and gave them a broken home, got engaged to a woman who left me after they had bonded with her as a step mom - giving them another broken home) and will eventually to do to them (come out to them as trans, ask them to accept and understand my gender identity, put them through watching me transition - effectively losing their mother, put them through the social stimga of having a trans parent, etc.)...

Yes some days I wonder if they wouldn't be better off being raised by their "normal" dad and step-mom, but it's usually the pain and confusion that my death would cause them that makes me brush off the idea of suicide and just "buckle down and get through this" for their sakes. What's really sad for me is that sometimes I resent that I can't even take myself out of this world to escape my responsibilities to everyone else and their feelings, because of those very responsibilities.
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