End Of Days: There's ANOTHER Pregnant Man Due To Give Birth In February

http://bossip.com/208664/end-of-days-theres-another-pregnant-man-due-to-give-birth-in-february/
1/28/2010

Are we the only ones who have trouble understanding why a woman who wants to be a man seems crazy when they decide (using the female organs they supposedly didn't want in the first place) to do the most womanly thing possible???

Second is just the first to lose.  No one cares anymore, its been done, everyone else moved on.

Just another bigot blog.  Move along people, nothing to see here by small-mind bigots. Move along.

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Are we the only ones who have trouble understanding why a woman who wants to be a man seems crazy when they decide (using the female organs they supposedly didn't want in the first place) to do the most womanly thing possible???

Yes. Yes you are. Now get over it.

But congratulations on appropriate use of pronouns throughout the piece. You now qualify as more progressive than the New York Times. Gold star for you!

What saddens me most about that blog isn't the blogger, truth be told. It's the comments. I'm not generally a violent person, but the more I read, the more I wanted to gather up the whole lot and bang their heads together

If it is the end of days then the bigots should be happy!  After all, they will be summoned to heaven by Jesus in Rapture, leaving all us heathens, non-believers, and wicked, wicked people to suffer the Great Tribulation.

Frankly, I can't wait for them to go...

-Sandy(...rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints...)

well the first pregnant man did it because he and his spouse wanted children, but she was unable to carry the child (i think it was something wrong with her womb lining). because he hadn't had his organs removed yet, he decided to carry the child to truly make it their own birth child, rather than use a surrogate mother.

without knowing the behind stories, you really can't be upset at them for using the organs they have. perhaps this one's spouse has HIV or something and the child would have been at risk of contracting it had he not stepped in to carry their child instead... 

Oh my gods, those comments... such hate and stupidity. My eyes still hurt from reading it.

I feel it's not my right to judge that man, especially since I understand his feelings. One of the most difficult things abut the entire process of transition is the fact that you will be unable too have kids afterward. if this man felt like this was something he needed to do; to have a child of his own, then isn't he free to do as he wishes?

Every person is different. It might seem weird to other people, but they cannot look inside his head.

Quote from: Alyssa M. on January 30, 2010, 12:06:52 AM
Yes. Yes you are. Now get over it.

Sadly they are not. So many haters commented on this topic, you'd be shocked. But they should get over it, shouldn't they?

Xx Pippin

p.s. my comment on the mentally challenged hate comments on that blog:

After reading these comments, I am once again reassured that people;
1. hate to think about things they do not understand, like, in this case, transsexuals
2. start yelling and screaming and trying to destroy the things that they don't know; I'm not sure if you people realise it, but these are two HUMAN BEINGS that you are calling all those nasty names. Not animals, or rocks, not just a photoshopped picture, but humans. As far as I am concerned, you should be ashamed to treat another human being like that. That is unjustifiable.
3. are not the smartest beings on this planet. If someone wants to make the choice to be a man, or a woman, is it impossible for you to accept that they are not 'sick and twisted' as you call them, but people who cannot live if they do not make the choice they make. Do you honestly think making the choice to become a man if you were born a woman is easy? Do you think it is a walk in the park?
Well, it is not. It is about the most difficult path a human being can walk. It takes years and years to complete everything, you spend months in hospitals, you are tested in every possible way. Psychologists can PROVE that the people who change the gender they were born with actually have the brain of their desired gender.

But it's so easy to hate, isn't it? It's easier to just judge someone or something without prior knowledge of the subject you are dealing with. It might actually be fun for some of you people. I think you like the feeling of power it gives you.

Think about it. Is shouting dumb things at innocent people really the justice you believe it to be?

And don't come screaming at my comment with things about god or religion. Everyone has the right to practice their own religion, and to behave as they deem fit according to that religion. Just like you all have the choice to believe in your own god. But no one has the right to force their beliefs and moral standards on someone else.

Accordingly, I am not trying to force anyone to agree with me. I am hoping that they will, but force them, I cannot. I am just showing you another point of view. Everyone makes their own choices in life, even you, the one who reads this. If every difficult choice you make would be criticised, you wouldn't be happy either. Please consider this before trying to make yourself feel good at the cost of someone else.

-Loki- (Yes, that's me, I use that nickname sometimes)

p.s. if you feel the need to bash me, go ahead. My point is made, and I will not abandon it. It will be like screaming at a wall. But if that is something you enjoy, then please feel free. I am sure my response will be accordingly.

[I am not sure if they posted this comment, seeing that that site is so full of haters that I fear my comment will be banned before they even read half of it. But I felt that it needed to be said. so yeah...

I must admit that I can't quite see the point of transitioning and then giving birth,It seems like a monumental waste of time.

Apart from concerns  for the well being of the foetus, regarding hormones and similar, none of my business.

As far as the religious maniacs are concerned, shouldn't they be happy that a woman is doing what they think Mrs God made her for?  I assume she is barefoot as well as pregers?

I noticed most of the commenters typed in caps lock lol

omgawd thats odd D:

I wish this would stop being news.    This is not a miracle by a long shot.

I think it is bad news. I don't understand why they would transition and give birth. They're saying they want to be a man and stuff and doing this. Of course people are going to judge, put us altogether and think we're fakes.

Seriously, no offence to anyone but this kind of thing aggravates me. You're either a man and play the role of a man or don't ever transition at all or give birth before you transition. I don't understand what transman are thinking.

@Accord: Agreed.

Sigh. I tend to agree with Accord. My viscera tend to shrivel up whenever I hear about a pregnant trans man who has already transitioned.

But...I read a lot of science fiction and get exposed to a lot of wild ideas about sex, gender, and all sorts of things. And I don't believe in enforcing a strict gender binary on anyone. And some cis men would jump at the chance to have a baby. And I think trans people should be free to do what they want without having some yahoo come along and tell him (or her) that the activity invalidates his (or her) gender.

I haven't read Thomas Beatie's book, so I don't know how he sees himself. He might be so secure in his identity that being pregnant doesn't shake his sense of self. Or maybe he's so pussywhipped that he is willing to roll over and play dead at his wife's smallest whim. Frankly, I don't care. I do, however, care about how his actions affect me.

Because of Beatie, some people might take me less seriously if they knew about me. But I suspect that they aren't the kind of people who would ever be on board anyway. Some people are always going to negatively judge trans people just because they're trans. I hate that. So I'm trying not to negatively judge guys like Beatie.

Sometimes it's a real struggle, though.

Quote from: accord03 on June 25, 2010, 06:55:48 AM
I think it is bad news. I don't understand why they would transition and give birth. They're saying they want to be a man and stuff and doing this. Of course people are going to judge, put us altogether and think we're fakes.

Seriously, no offence to anyone but this kind of thing aggravates me. You're either a man and play the role of a man or don't ever transition at all or give birth before you transition. I don't understand what transman are thinking.

I kind of feel the need to point out that it's the man's body. He can do as he likes.

Many of us are beyond feeling the need to pigeon-hole individuals into binary gender categorizations. It is unimportant as to how a person identifies. It is important that they need not fear being happy.

I think

you know, I really HATE that transmen are becoming more well known and more out to the public.

I don't want any of these transphobic "normals" to know about me.  I wish they were still in the dark.

Quote from: Rebis on June 26, 2010, 06:06:30 PM
I kind of feel the need to point out that it's the man's body. He can do as he likes.

Many of us are beyond feeling the need to pigeon-hole individuals into binary gender categorizations. It is unimportant as to how a person identifies. It is important that they need not fear being happy.

I think

It is effecting every transman out there cause of FEW people who like to whatever he likes to do with his body and gender.

Quote from: accord03 on June 27, 2010, 04:36:17 AM

It is effecting every transman out there cause of FEW people who like to whatever he likes to do with his body and gender.

You realize transmen have been doing this before Thomas Beatie and it hasn't done anything to change our image? Thomas was just the first one to make it a public affair. I think that's the bigger issue, not what he does with his body. People shouldn't care about what you or he does with his body in the first place.

Some transmen like their vagina and some of them have no problem with giving birth. Not all FTMs feel the need to transition or have the same dysphorias as the rest. There are transmen who want a biological child so much that they don't mind being pregnant, we actually have one here who put off T because of this and are now carrying a child.

I personally wouldn't do it, but I don't see a problem with it, people have their reasons. What I do have a problem with are people who make it a public spectacle.

Yeah, I get what you mean and that frustrates me the most how they make it public then every transman get effected and catergorised as fakes but it would be better if these sort of things were limited cause didn't you change your gender for a reason? I personally don't like the whole idea of a man getting pregnant for whatever reason it was. If they wanted a bio child, they could of gave birth before or use other technology to get close as their own bio child instead of carrying it.