I am starting to wonder if surgery is sort of like cement. Kind of solidifies the changes of transition.
Regardless, definitely better during transition than before it. FWIW.

Quote from: Kimberly on September 03, 2005, 03:30:14 PM
I am starting to wonder if surgery is sort of like cement.

It will either hold you together or like the movies, sink you to the bottom if you did it for the wrong reasons.

Quote from: Bobbi T on September 03, 2005, 02:01:38 PM
The more i read other peoples stories the surer I become and I was already very sure I was a woman. The only thing that makes me a man  is on the outside.  I feel more comfortable with women but women are confused with who I am and men are confused with my identity as well. I have always thought that I did a god job of disguising who I am but the more look at my life the more I realise I am not. I feel like the surgery would allow my body to live in congruence with my phsyche. Whatever would happen I am not sure but it would at least allow people to see who I really am. I feel ultimately it would give better relationships with men and women.

Hello Bobbi

Forgive the intrusion, but what the heck.  Why don't you start your own topic in Transsexual Talk ?  It seems as though you have issues to deal with and some questions of your own.

Don't be scared, go for it, nudge, nudge 

Chat later,

Steph

Quote from: Leigh on September 03, 2005, 03:38:35 PM
It will either hold you together or like the movies, sink you to the bottom if you did it for the wrong reasons.

Indeed. A good reason to use a cement analogy

Quotenothing changes the person you are inside

If that were true, I'd have been run out of here and many of my favorite RL hangouts on a rail long ago.  You can always change yourself or allow yourself to change when you  truely recognise the need to do it.

Terri

I want to transition so i have beautiful breasts, large protruding nipples and a moist sensitive vagina with shapely hips and a nice soft voluptous bum........i want to feel the eroticism and sensuality physically of a female

i already feel and think internally feminine and already a lot of the physical feminine sensitivity comes out in me

but i want to transition physically all the way..........i love the physical and the mental.................i want it all

misty xxx

Of course I have issues. The issues for me involve the other people in my life. If it weren't for them I would probably already be transitioned. The physical part of it isn't an issue for me. That part of my body has always felt like it didn't belong and it has always been in the way. I've read alot of the commemnts that people have here and I admire their courage but I am not prepared  to dessert eveybody in my life which is what I would have to do.  I tried to open a dialogue with the people in my life from time to time and it's gone nowhere. The question for me never was what I was how could I live with it.

Misty,

you said

Quotei want to feel the eroticism and sensuality physically of a female

What if you couldn't achieve that? What if all you could get was the form without the sensuality? Would you still want to transition? Why?

Cassie

Hi Cassie

Wanting to transition for all the reasons I listed would be nice reasons for me

In the case of somebody who has (vaginal) form without sensitivity......then I can imagine there are still large degrees of feelings of feminine sensuousness and completeness from having that form

.....is that the case?

misty xxx

I agree 100% with Misty. I feel 100% the same way.

Gina

"In the case of somebody who has (vaginal) form without sensitivity......then I can imagine there are still large degrees of feelings of feminine sensuousness and completeness from having that form

.....is that the case?"


i believe it is because i have those feelings now coming from the place my vagina was supposed to be, and internally behind the same spot. the only thing i worry about is that my feelings now are completely divorced from the male genitals and SRS uses the glans so i'm not sure how that will feel or affect what i have now. i do occasionally have orgasms now that come from that spot and have nothing to do with male genitals. i realize this could all be coming entirely from my female brain but it really does not matter where it comes from just that it is there.

beth

Quotei do occasionally have orgasms now that come from that spot and have nothing to do with male genitals.

I know what you mean Beth. Apparently as your body transforms there are other spots yet to be discovered. One day not long ago my wife and I were invited over to a friends house. She fed us and we drank wine and yaked into the evening. She lit some candles and we continued talking in the candle light.

My back started itching and was in a hard to reach place. My wife and our girlfriend were yaking away about something so I started using the chair back as a scracthing post, moving my back, back and forth against the chair back which also had a bit of a massaging affect. I thought, ahhh that feels good. So I was doing that when out of nowhere this warm glowing feeling started radiating through my body and kept growing with intensity. I realised what was happening. I was in the throws of a female orgasm. I didn't want to stop but I had too, so I stopped, the orgasm however had already aquired a life of it's own. It continued for what seemed like forever but must have been just a few seconds. So I sat in my chair and tried to compose myself when a wave hit and I let out a slight moan. My wife turned and asked was something wrong. Well this was embarrasing, and I said it was my back hurting again. Our friend said oh you poor thing would it help if I massaged it a little.

No! I said in a rather alramed fashion, it'll be all right I just need to strech a little. I excused myself to the restroom to regain my composure. I'm sure my face was quite flushed but fortunately the candelight concealed it.

That's when I learned the truth about erogenous zones. They do exist. It would seem that I had inadvertantly hit one. As a male I only had one erogenous zone. The existance of others is new to me, as well as the dangers of getting them over stimulated. So I guess the point I'm getting to here is it doesn't really matter what sensation or amount of sensitivity you have down there, as a woman there are other places yet to be discovered.

But I have digressed a bit I think from the actual subject. Why transition? I think I'll chalk that experience up as another in a long list of reasons why. I would have never experienced that if it had not been for the fact that I am in transition.

Cassie

Well you all are so lucky that can decide the options....why to trasition...

I am in India being forced to MTF trasition because I had some homosexual instances in life......I don;t want to be female but still you know some people in India are forcing harmones n my body....


Is there any way to counter attack these harmones???

Hello,
Very interesting thread!

Why transistion? In my view view the girls who have.....Had to do it to be happy and because they could do it.

Ok on the flip-side, my view of why I don't need to transition. To clarify, I have always felt like a girl and and always wished I was a girl physicly.

Well 1st off, I lived too deep in denail to do anything about it when I was young and I never have had the money to do anything about it anyhow. Would I if I could? Maybe I would have when I was young but not now...because I have learned to be happy where I am.

Why am I happy now? It is because I'm honest in my life about my gender and because I feel enough femme in my life to be happy. Being honest to me now...is a HUGE drive. I don't care what others think...as long as I'm being true and honest to myself. But to be happy I NEED to live enfemme and feel pretty every day.

I am free to live enfemme in my appearance and in my sex life. I am so much happier now because of that. I have been reluctant to say this, but beth already has....I too have that
"HotSpot". Not to be too discriptive abouty it...but...it is a different orgasim than a manly one, not in waves rather it is steady and I am multiple!

I feel a BIG part of my happiness and acceptance comes from my femme enjoyment in bed now. My lover (a gg) has made me feel more like a woman, in our sex life, than I ever have felt before. Our totaly unfrustrated and rewarding sex life has made me realize I can be happy just where I am....without transistion.

Another reason I don't transistion is the cold hard reality that having my man mode accessable is very handy. I hate to even bring this up as I feel my ts sisters get angry to me about this. I can go steath (in my man mode) have have that silly man power our culture gives out so freely. Since I'm out...this only works with strangers...not all my family and friends. I know the differeances between the social genders because I live them both.

So I don't transition because I'm happy as I am and I'm trying to make my life as easy and good as possible with my choices.

Love
DebTV

Why transition?

I tranisitioned into full time living and working as Sarah, because I could no longer continue living the fake sham of a life I had been living.

I couldn't continue pretending to be happy as a male, now all that is left is the actual surgery.

Sarah

For me, short and sweet.  I never could stand my body, no matter how well I took care of it, trained it and sculpted it, it was never more then a robot to house my mind and only drove me crazier.  It just wasn't mine, not really.

Quotemy feelings now are completely divorced from the male genitals and SRS uses the glans so i'm not sure how that will feel or affect what i have now.

Such things are the last thing I worry about.  If I find a partner I can simply enjoy being with, thats enough for me.  I could end up with a "dead hole" and still be happy with the surgery, it would be nice to have orgasmic potentual, but just having the body I always felt I should have would be enough if it comes to that and no regretes if it does.  It's me I'm concerned about, not my sex life.

Terri

Althought I can see why we have transition, I ran into a couple of bad apples one of which was my GP. He lost his medical license for raping his patience. He kept wanting to check my prostate.
I found another willing to help me for a fee. I didn't bite on that one. 

I feel the transition time maybe too long in some cases with too many rules which make room for the bad apples to offer their services. :-(


I am frustrated at being in Ontario where the government totally turned its back on any person unfortunate to have Gender dysphoria or any illness which may cost the OHIP system too much or be unwanted to right wing interest groups.

Sorry I had to Vent

Quote from: Suzys_Cars on September 17, 2005, 07:17:31 PM
Althought I can see why we have transition, I ran into a couple of bad apples one of which was my GP. He lost his medical license for raping his patience. He kept wanting to check my prostate.
I found another willing to help me for a fee. I didn't bite on that one. 

I feel the transition time maybe too long in some cases with too many rules which make room for the bad apples to offer their services. :-(


I am frustrated at being in Ontario where the government totally turned its back on any person unfortunate to have Gender dysphoria or any illness which may cost the OHIP system too much or be unwanted to right wing interest groups.

Sorry I had to Vent

Hello Suzys_Cars,

No need to be sorry, there's nothing wrong with venting.

Unfortunately there will always be time for someone to try and take advantage of us no matter how long we are in transition.  We just have to be careful, and alert just like everyone else. 

I don't think that there is anything written on how long transition has to, or should be.  The time line in the HBSOC is a minimum of one year for RLT, and others recommend a minimum of 6 months RLT.  How long a person is in transition is really very subjective, it takes as long as they need.

I'm as frustrated as you with being denied access to medical treatment here in Ontario where others have it in the rest of the country and through out the rest of the world.  On the bright side the Ontario Government is waiting for a challenge before the Ontario Human Rights Commission to do with re-listing of SRS under OHIP, so keep your fingers crossed.  And to be fair to the present government it was the previous Conservative Govt that de-listed SRS.

Just my thoughts,

Steph

Why transition?

Your spirit sings the song of who you are.  It has the lead role in the stage production of "Your Life!"

If your exterior matches who you are inside, then your spirit sings the songs of your life with full harmony and orchistration.  It's a Song of Joy, and a complete production worthy of an Emmy or Tony. 

And I believe that this is true whether it is gender identification or career choice or any other major life-choice we are discussing.

If you don't transition in some fashion, then your spirit sings alone on stage.  You hear the song, and you know that it could be so much more.

For some of us here at Susan's, transitioning means living full time.  I would also offer that for some, myself included, transitioning includes going from complete denial to self acceptance. 

I don't know if I will ever transition to living full time.  But I DO know that my transition from denial to acceptance has removed some of the discords in my spirit song.

Chaunte

Quote from: Chaunte on September 18, 2005, 12:31:25 AM
Why transition?

Your spirit sings the song of who you are.  It has the lead role in the stage production of "Your Life!"

If your exterior matches who you are inside, then your spirit sings the songs of your life with full harmony and orchistration.  It's a Song of Joy, and a complete production worthy of an Emmy or Tony. 

And I believe that this is true whether it is gender identification or career choice or any other major life-choice we are discussing.

If you don't transition in some fashion, then your spirit sings alone on stage.  You hear the song, and you know that it could be so much more.

For some of us here at Susan's, transitioning means living full time.  I would also offer that for some, myself included, transitioning includes going from complete denial to self acceptance. 

I don't know if I will ever transition to living full time.  But I DO know that my transition from denial to acceptance has removed some of the discords in my spirit song.

Chaunte

Well said Chaunte. The female mind cannot be full unless you have a body that say you are a female. I tribe with this every day. Because inside i know my body doesn't say im a female, but my spirit and mind tells me otherwise. If anyone understood that?

Later..


Alia