What Film are we talking about?  I just got done watching a show called "our america."  The trans episode was ok but not the greatest.  It makes the same mistake that mother other media endorses.  It mainly has people who knew since they were trans from an early age.  Not that there is anything wrong with their stories, but this is the reason why I went so deep into doubt and thought I was a TS fraud. 

The film's called She's A Boy I Knew (hence the thread title ) - available from Outcast Films (see Caith's link above).

One of my most favourite friends, who sadly now live a long way away, had really outlandish dress sense. I loved her for it. It displayed her character.  Once we were walking in the hospital corridor and a little girl asked her ' Excuse me why are you dressed as a clown', "because I am my dear," was the reply. 

Cindy

 

I remember when I was a North London hippy in the 80's, I used to love it when kids would ask their mums "why's that man got long hair?" and the mums wouldn't know how to answer.

I also had a magic moment once in Bristol when I was in my 20's, probably at my most androgynous in terms of clothes and look in general, I was walking past a building site and one of the roofers came out with the classic "can't tell if it's a boy or a girl, huhuh!" - but I'd been reading my fabulous Furry Freak Brothers religiously, so I was finally able to use the classic comeback to this, which was "why don't you suck my dick and find out?" - his mates laughed him down, and I was a happy boygirl that day. Damn, I miss that floppy felt hat. where did it go? .

I do find it amusing how clothes are supposed to define gender. Ok   I like to look nice but it's for special times, I usually wear trackies and a T at home, but no way would I post a pic of that, if I went down to the local pub last night for dinner like that, for some reason most of the staff know me and are really cute and we chat about things.

I do like to look 'feminine' but it's a look. I really don't think that women in general are addicted to a 'girly' look, but for example this weekend was the Adelaide Cup horse racing  carnival and yes, you couldn't see a women who wasn't in heels, cute dress, nice make up and a cute hat. But its fun, not a uniform.

I have to admit that I find it incredibly difficult to understand people who cross dress. In no way is that meant in an insulting or derogatory way.  OK for woman wearing trouser suits etc I really don't think it is cross dressing; more being able to express yourself, and after all you are in public. For males wanting to wear so called 'female' attire in private, I have to admit, while fully accepting and supporting of it, I don't understand it. Please as I said I don't understand but I do accept. 

Funny world

Cindy

Interesting - why do you think you feel differently about men doing it from women doing it? Aside from it being socially acceptable for women to wear men's clothes in a way that it isn't for men to wear women's? What's the difference for you?

Quote from: Caith on March 15, 2011, 10:20:15 AM
What percentage of modern women *ever* wear a dress or skirt, these days?

This is just as stupid a stereotype as the idea that to be female you have to wear dresses, high heels and plaster on the slap, because I see plenty of women wearing skirts and dresses. Admitedly less so in the winter because it's freezing, but now the weather has started to get better they are on the increase.

To put it simply to be female all you have to do is be female, and anything you do is feminine because it's a woman that's doing it.

I just treat clothing the same as any other girl, I wear what I want depending on where I'm going, what i'm doing and what the weather is like. It's fun to mix things up...A dress over skinny jeans is a great look, especially teamed with some chucks...emotastic. Though I've now noticed I actually feel short in my converse now! how did that happen.

Clothing is essentially window dressing, it's how you see your self that affects how others truly see you.

Clothing plays a dual paradoxical role (to my mind, anyway) of display and hiding. You get to display aspects of yourself you want people to see, and hide those you don't (and I mean personality, not just body parts ). I've got no idea how I'm going to want to end up dressing, because I've got no idea how I'm going to end up looking, and how I'll feel when I get there! But I'm warming to the idea of playing with it.

Strangely enough, when you start having boobies, you suddenly what to show them off a bit...even if it's not in a cleavage flashing way.

Quote from: yoxi on March 16, 2011, 04:39:47 AM
Interesting - why do you think you feel differently about men doing it from women doing it? Aside from it being socially acceptable for women to wear men's clothes in a way that it isn't for men to wear women's? What's the difference for you?

As I said I do not understand. I have no problems with it I just don't understand it. Maybe what I'm trying to say in a very bad way is that I do not understand people who cross dress for 'fetish' reasons. I have no problems with it and please please don't mistake not understanding with any form of rejection or censorship. I do not understand the 'joy' of masochism or of sadism, as long as it is mutually OK, fine with me. But I don't understand it.

And I'm not equating any of these past times.

If you want to, do it with my full blessing, or rather complete indifference. I just don't understand the desire, and I suspect without the desire it cannot be understood.


Cindy

Quote from: Helena on March 16, 2011, 04:54:41 AM
Strangely enough, when you start having boobies, you suddenly what to show them off a bit...even if it's not in a cleavage flashing way.

Nearly every woman I know says she hates men looking at her boobs, when she is wearing a push up bra 'guaranteed'  by the manufacturer to give two extra sizes and a low cut blouse. The advert even said you use no push at work, use the second push at a dinner date, and the third is for a night club when you really want to impress. I did hear on a local beach by to well endowed teens sun baking topless, I hate it how all of these guys look at my boobs but don't talk to me.

Sometimes Guys can't win.

Usually with women
:laugh:Cindy

Hee hee, so true Cindy. I like showing off my figure, but every time some guy gives me the once over I just think "perv".

Unless of course I'm secretly perving at him, in that case he'd get some lee way.

Yes, men and women are both the victims of cultural conditioning, which is really tiresome. And it does feel to me like these days, the deal is that anything women do, say, or think is automatically praiseworthy (unless they're a 'celeb', of course), and anything men do, say, or think (even if it's exactly the same things) is automatically suspect and/or laughable. And of course we're not allowed to get angry about this, because only women are allowed to be angry these days too! </arargh>

Meh.

I don't know whether I'll want to show off my boobs, if I get 'em. I'll be 50 by then, and with my weird anatomy there's a good chance they'll squint, so I'll just let them lurk in the background and be a noticeable bump, I think. But who knows? If I turn out to be packing heat, I might flaunt it .

I hate guys wearing baggy board shorts.  All male life savers should have to wear see thorough budgie smuggler's. Seems fair and I would def be down the beach between the two flags.  Might even have to practice mouth to mouth or mouth to ?

Sinful Cindy

Quote from: yoxi on March 16, 2011, 05:27:19 AM
Yes, men and women are both the victims of cultural conditioning, which is really tiresome. And it does feel to me like these days, the deal is that anything women do, say, or think is automatically praiseworthy (unless they're a 'celeb', of course), and anything men do, say, or think (even if it's exactly the same things) is automatically suspect and/or laughable. And of course we're not allowed to get angry about this, because only women are allowed to be angry these days too! </arargh>

Meh.

I don't know whether I'll want to show off my boobs, if I get 'em. I'll be 50 by then, and with my weird anatomy there's a good chance they'll squint, so I'll just let them lurk in the background and be a noticeable bump, I think. But who knows? If I turn out to be packing heat, I might flaunt it .

Listen teenager, when you get then flaunt them, I'm 58.

Cindy

Nah, it'll probably be like Steve Martin says, I'll just sit at home all day and play with them .

Seriously though, the boobs are secondary for me, it's the Schrödinger's Genitals experiment I'm interested in - I want to open the box and find a live pussy .

Oh, and I like budgie smugglers if the budgie's a mackaw... but baggy shorts can be a turn-on too, the imagination is often more fun than the reality, let's face it!

What percentage of modern women *ever* wear a dress or skirt, these days?

At WallMart: none.  At a major law firm, international bank or the opera: most.

Quote from: tekla on March 16, 2011, 10:54:16 AM
or the opera: most.

Unless they're playing "trouser roles" .

I meant out in the audience rattling their jewelry.