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Started by Maga Girl, August 03, 2011, 05:30:25 AM

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Maga Girl

Quote from: Princess of Hearts on August 04, 2011, 06:57:38 PM
Narela perhaps lives in a country were SRS is virtually unheard off or is wildly expensive and so she has come to embrace like me the status of non-op?

I live in spain since i have 8 years... i have citizenship, and i live in Andalucia.. here it is FREE
but you need hormones 2 years

Quote from: Princess of Hearts on August 05, 2011, 05:01:16 PM
Actually it was Google Translate that wrote that.

:D

Is bad, but is the better XD, and i only use this to some worlds or phrases,   Princesita :p


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Princess of Hearts

Quote from: Narela on August 05, 2011, 05:11:01 PM


I live in spain since i have 8 years... i have citizenship, and i live in Andalucia.. here it is FREE
but you need hormones 2 years
[Narela this is how you would write the above in British-English]
"I've lived Spain since I was 8...I live in Andalucia and I am now a Spanish citizen.   Here in Spain SRS is free funded by the Spanish taxpayers.  However, to qualify you need to have been on hormones for two years."
[I am learning several languages at the moment:Italian, French and Russian and I would be delighted if a native speaker of those languages gave me advice]

Is bad, but is the better XD, and i only use this to some worlds or phrases


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Randi

I stand corrected-Narela lives in Spain. Wish you both the best of luck.
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Cindy Stephens

Dear narela,
     I also tend to non-op and used to post here occasionally.  Unfortunately, some people have a problem with anyone who doesn't have exactly the same course, causes, extent of dysphoria as they do.  Some will actually get extremely upset and accuse you of attacking them if you describe what seems to be good for YOU, and it is different then what THEY want.  You are not less trans than they are.  I have had successful and enjoyable sex with both males and females.  None of it involved my penetrating another  or acting as a guy.  Like you, I was afraid of losing sensations and the ability to orgasm.  After years of HRT I pretty much don't orgasm any more.  But that works perfectly for the relationship between my wife and myself.  It took quite a few years to get to that point.  Having a vagina would not help her or I.  I believe that I may very well end up an orchidectemy in the near future to cut down on the HRT medications. That seems right for me, at this point in my life.
    You really have to do what is right for you.  Listen to what others say with a grain of salt.  They aren't you.  I have seen Beautiful non-op transsexuals who pass incredibly well.  They seem to be happy and have successful lives.  I hope you do too.
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Princess of Hearts

Well said Cindy.

I have no objections to others going down the HRT and all the surgeries route, that is their own individual choice.   I don't like it when they get all sniffy and judgemental about people who for a variety of legitimate reasons cannot or will not go down the pills and surgery route.   
  I have been a member here off and on since October 2008 and I lurked since 2005, and I can say that I have never known a time here at Susan's where most of the mtf members have been so fundamentalist in their views.    Of course HRT and the different types of surgeries available were always important and discussed often and at length.   However, there were plenty of other threads talking about the non-pills and surgery part of being a transsexual/transgender person.   There used to be plenty of good advice about clothes, make-up, jewellery, hairstyles,etc.  While those threads are still been written - albeit to a noticeably lesser extent that in the past - we seem to be becoming obsessed here at Susan's about pills and surgeries.   
My mother said something to me when I came out that I didn't fully appreciate the significance of at the time.   I had spoken for over one hour, almost without pausing and she said to me ' I think that you have got too much time on your hands to think about all this'.   At the time I thought it was a rather dismissive comment, but I have come to realise that she was right.   Since I have started living as a female - within the family at least - I have discovered that I simply get on with my life.  I don't think about my ->-bleeped-<- to nearly the same extent that I did before coming out.   I suspect that my mother and sister's complete and utter support for my lifestyle has greatly contributed to feeling much more calm and centred than I used to.   Perhaps if I lived alone, or if I lived with a partner/wife who was hot and cold about my ->-bleeped-<- I wouldn't feel as accepted as I do.   I can wear an skirt or a dress in front of my mother and sister.   I can wear full make-up and sit and apply my make-up in front of my mother without any sign of disapproval, or concern that her son is behaving in a very unmanly way.   I even wear bras everyday at my mother suggestion.    I wouldn't have had this level of psychological satisfaction had I lived alone.   My mother and sister often say to me that blouse etc really suits you, or that lipstick is your colour.   I have made fashion and make-up mistakes but my family doesn't say 'why are you wearing that?    You're a boy for heaven's sake!'   My mother will say ' I don't think that is quite you', and more often that not I agree with her.   Living on your own and having too much time to think and analyse everything from every conceivable angle, and without any direct emotional support will drive you round the bend, sooner or later.
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Cen

Quote from: Narela on August 04, 2011, 05:16:26 PM


They are only genitals, i don't gonna show it in the street
This discussion remind me this ...

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,101703.0.html

They are a direct source of dysphoria and alarm for many.  One can express differing opinions in a tactful and respectful manner.  It doesn't have to be so rudely incredulous, regardless of one's opinion on surgery.
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aphrodite

i'm nonop but not really sure if i want a surgery or not
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Just Kate

Ill no longer be defined by my condition. From now on, I'm just, Kate.

http://autumnrain80.blogspot.com
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Padma

Don't worry about aphrodite's post, she was a banned member returning under an assumed name to cause more trouble, and has been banned again.
Womandrogyne™
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Just Kate

Quote from: Padma on October 29, 2011, 04:37:49 AM
Don't worry about aphrodite's post, she was a banned member returning under an assumed name to cause more trouble, and has been banned again.

I knew it was Jamie Nicole when I wrote my '?' post.  I couldn't understand why someone who is trying to present themselves as respectable and have respectable differences of opinions with non-ops, would A) write something that didn't make any sense at all, or B) be completely disingenuous by knowing she is post-op and pretending she is not.  I guess she was looking for more ammo in her war against what she perceives as non-op oppression.
Ill no longer be defined by my condition. From now on, I'm just, Kate.

http://autumnrain80.blogspot.com
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AbraCadabra

How about trying to go 'under cover' - ?

Since she was not going to come back and say: Hi, it's me Jamie!!!

How ingenious would that have been, or?... now what say you?

Axelle
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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Just Kate

Quote from: Axélle on October 29, 2011, 11:51:48 AM
How about trying to go 'under cover' - ?

Since she was not going to come back and say: Hi, it's me Jamie!!!

How ingenious would that have been, or?... now what say you?

Axelle

I'd give her the same answers regardless if she was pre-, post-, or non-.  Under cover is generally only used to discover discrepancies, dig up dirt, etc.  Sucks she felt the need to do that.  Did she think by putting up that post the non-ops were going to talk her OUT of surgery?
Ill no longer be defined by my condition. From now on, I'm just, Kate.

http://autumnrain80.blogspot.com
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AbraCadabra

There is no dirt to dig up? What dirt? Am I missing something? Too little non-paranoia?

She just wanted to come back I guess, and those posts tried to be terribly benign, even if done with tongue in cheek...

Just a thought, am not a conspiracy expert,
Axelle
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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Jen-Jen

Can we get back on subject here? More non-op here?
Don't judge a book by its cover! My lifes been like a country song! True love, amazing grace, severe heartbreak, buckles, boots n spurs! I 've been thrown off the bull a couple times, I keep getting up and dusting myself off! Can't give up on my happily ever after!
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leflauren678

I am a non-op, lesbian women. I get a lot of flack from my local support group (and on here when I started being active on here) for a number of reasons:

I do not see myself as trans, but rather as having a body defect.

I do not want to have SRS because I am not happy with the current results. As a Gynecology Tech I see plenty of Vaginas, and anyone who thinks that their SRS looks natural is fooling themselves. As soon as the results are better you can count me in.

I would have had BA and FFS but my small B cup fits my small frame, and I am luck to have a feminine face. I have only had electrolysis and hormones, for 6 years now. I have no problems passing and I am out to fewer than a dozen people outside of family members and the local support group.

I completely understand how difficult it is to be non-op, I am just out of a 3 year relationship with a lesbian woman. I am finding it very hard to meet women who are interested in me as a non-op.

-Lef


Quote from: Cindy Stephens on August 06, 2011, 11:08:35 AM
Dear narela,
     I also tend to non-op and used to post here occasionally.  Unfortunately, some people have a problem with anyone who doesn't have exactly the same course, causes, extent of dysphoria as they do.  Some will actually get extremely upset and accuse you of attacking them if you describe what seems to be good for YOU, and it is different then what THEY want.  You are not less trans than they are.  I have had successful and enjoyable sex with both males and females.  None of it involved my penetrating another  or acting as a guy.  Like you, I was afraid of losing sensations and the ability to orgasm.  After years of HRT I pretty much don't orgasm any more.  But that works perfectly for the relationship between my wife and myself.  It took quite a few years to get to that point.  Having a vagina would not help her or I.  I believe that I may very well end up an orchidectemy in the near future to cut down on the HRT medications. That seems right for me, at this point in my life.
    You really have to do what is right for you.  Listen to what others say with a grain of salt.  They aren't you.  I have seen Beautiful non-op transsexuals who pass incredibly well.  They seem to be happy and have successful lives.  I hope you do too.
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: leflauren678 on November 09, 2011, 12:58:21 PM
I am a non-op, lesbian women. I get a lot of flack from my local support group (and on here when I started being active on here) for a number of reasons:


I get flack her for being a non op and transgender performer. Rather look the part, than have the part.
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JenJen2011

Quote from: Narela on August 03, 2011, 05:30:25 AM
I felt weird  :embarrassed:

All you guys/gals talk about SRS... and seems to be very important...

By now I'm sure you've noticed you're not the only non-op here. As for me, I do plan on having SRS.
"You have one life to live so live it right"
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: JenJen2011 on November 09, 2011, 01:44:38 PM
By now I'm sure you've noticed you're not the only non-op here. As for me, I do plan on having SRS.

Yeah, it's lonely :(

I totally support you on getting SRS.
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JenJen2011

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on November 09, 2011, 01:50:30 PM
Yeah, it's lonely :(

I totally support you on getting SRS.

Aww, you think so? I know several girls who don't want to have SRS. And thanks. I support you 100% on keeping your penis. :)
"You have one life to live so live it right"
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