Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 17, 2011, 02:54:19 PM
Whether trans people want to acknowledge it or not. It is DRAG 24/7. No matter the amount of surgery, hormones, or makeup... Your final results depend on how good of a "boy in drag" you make. Hormones, ffs, etc are just the results of applying the "DRAG" 24/7.
According to webster's dictionary, drag is "Of, relating to, or being a person wearing clothing characteristic of the
opposite sex."
Since my opposite sex is male according to my own convictions and philosophies and according to the State of Pennsylvania and the consensus of the United States through the declaration of my Birth Certificate, this would rule me out being "drag." If I were to wear a suit and tie, I would be in drag. If I wore a skirt I would not be in drag. Not every trans person can be correctly associated to drag....especially in today's society when the word "drag" is often associated to a cross dresser or a drag queen/king performer.
QuoteHowever, I see ts women as "women". Even though it's been hard for me to call that person "ma'm"... But to even think a majority of ts women are on the same level as GG's is laughable. If you only have one face, you better make it fabulous. But most ts women don't even do that...Like the girls I saw yesterday, I made it sure they knew they weren't as fab as me.
1. I am on the same level of Genetic women. I have every right they have. So, it is not laughable.
2. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. For me, a beautiful woman isn't evaluated by how much makeup she has on, the way she applied it, or the brand name of the makeup. For me, beauty is a combination of many things that is unique to each person.
3. The last thing I would ever do is laugh at someone and say they aren't as fab as me. When I was first chair first violinist, I was quite an ass with my pride in high school. I would say just what you were saying "You aren't as good as me." Reality hit me in the face when I went to a National Competition and got blown out of the water. Remember, there are always someone better than you so it's best not to "rub it in" to those you feel is inferior because there will always be someone else who will do the same to you.
QuoteFurthermore, cispeople aren't stupid. I can spot even the best transsexuals because something if always "off".
Your logic isn't sound here. You say you can spot a trans because something is off. Therefore, you only notice the trans people who have a characteristic that could be clocked. There are other trans who blend in perfectly and to assume you can spot every single one of them out is a stretch. I'm sorry, but there are transgirls you will walk right up to you and talk to you and you would not know.
To assume you can clock every trans out there who is "stealth" is a bit presumptuous.
QuoteTS women have to work a million times harder to "pass" as ciswomen. You don't have the option of NOT wearing makeup(SUBTLE makeup makes a huge difference) because you weren't technically born "female" bodywise. Maybe in the mind, but no one can see what is going on in your mind. Therefore, you have to present and impress. Because no effort will always look bad.
I have to disagree with this too. I go without makeup all the time and I haven't been clocked. I think being immersed in an Amish family without makeup is a good indicator that I still "pass." Because, I am sure they would have rained down fires of hell if they discovered a "guy" in an Amish dress living with them.
And if I do wear makeup I spend the same amount of time as every other average woman. Foundation, eyeshadow. Boom done. Fifteen minutes.
Your convictions in this matter is from your own experiences. However, these experiences are not universal just as mine are not.
