you should try shamanic journeying...it'll blow your mind

Quote from: timberwolf on March 28, 2007, 01:20:13 PM
you should try shamanic journeying...it'll blow your mind

Oh honey, I'm old and tired... at this point, I'm just trying to tidy things up and consolidate myself for the next jump. I sometimes feel like old Moses up on that mountain... seen more than I was 'sposed to. But Peeping Kate just HAD to know, lol..

I'll leave the adventures and new discoveries to you young 'uns

Kate

Quote from: timberwolf on March 28, 2007, 05:57:00 AM

i'm just looking for someone i can talk to in the terms of spirit that i understand... iLOVE talking to shamans because they understand exactly what i'm talking about...power animals and chakras ancestors the great  spirit etc etc etc

This is exactly what the Totem Pole Process and the Vision Quest are about.

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i suppose the true definition of a shaman is "one who knows". the word shaman comes from the tungus people and it literally means," one who knows".

a shaman enters the world of spirit by shamanic journeying and brings back teaching and healing from  the other side..they also perform soul retrievals unblock energy trapped in the chakras.. any way, they say that if you dream then you are a little bit shaman.

It is during one of these journeys that my Totem (chakra) Animals and Spirit Guides gave me the vision of the 4 directions and the 4 aspects of leadership. Then they gave me the mission to share that teaching to implement their integration in myself and others in order to create clear, courageous, wise and loving leadership in the community free of confusions, fears, ignorance and despair. 

Quote from: staceyanne on March 27, 2007, 04:37:19 PM

i am still new to the site, so i am still figuring things out yet. but i have been studying the native american traditions for 15 years or more and i have been honored with two pipes to carry in the lakota tradition. i have also studied reiki for a number of years, and other forms of energy healing. if i can help i will do so happily.                     staceyanne

Yes!
The first tennet is that with knowledge comes responsibility. If you know something is wrong, if you know how it could be made right what you are doing about it is the test. Talking the talk is easy, but even if walking the walk is scary it is also the most powerful and liberating way to really live your destiny.

Love, Light and Respect

Maebh

Quote from: Kate on March 28, 2007, 01:34:54 PM

Quote from: timberwolf on March 28, 2007, 01:20:13 PM
you should try shamanic journeying...it'll blow your mind

Oh honey, I'm old and tired... at this point, I'm just trying to tidy things up and consolidate myself for the next jump. I sometimes feel like old Moses up on that mountain... seen more than I was 'sposed to. But Peeping Kate just HAD to know, lol..

I'll leave the adventures and new discoveries to you young 'uns

Kate

A little young for retiring, aren't you Kate?  Don't forget that you're not the only person in your life opening doors.  Adventure has a fun way of falling in your lap, and sweeping you off your feet.

Just ask Bilbo Baggins.  He knows.

~ Blair

Hey, there! Wel met!

I'm a Heggenheimian witch. But I don't think you mean anything like that; Heggenheim is about the world between reality and fantasy; between wake and dream. It's rather fascinating, but it's not like shamanism, in that it recognises the realm of reality being real, and fantasy, dream and the astral plane as not being real. (Not that they aren't exciting and fascinating; just not real.)
So a spirit totem, though it offers much insight and wisdom, isn't real.
But I always enjoy talking with Shamans, as there are a lot of things we have in common. And that is mostly travel, I admit.

Witch?  I'm the biggest witch ever; oh no, wait, that was another word which starts with a different consonant! >

tink

Quote from: Dryad on March 28, 2007, 08:02:13 PM
Hey, there! Wel met!

I'm a Heggenheimian witch. But I don't think you mean anything like that; Heggenheim is about the world between reality and fantasy; between wake and dream. It's rather fascinating, but it's not like shamanism, in that it recognises the realm of reality being real, and fantasy, dream and the astral plane as not being real. (Not that they aren't exciting and fascinating; just not real.)
So a spirit totem, though it offers much insight and wisdom, isn't real.
But I always enjoy talking with Shamans, as there are a lot of things we have in common. And that is mostly travel, I admit.

before i got into shamanism i dabbled with astral travel but i got attacked by god knows what. never again

Little hint of the astral: Shield your own mind from the nightmares of others. The astral is basically hive-mind fantasy; if you're having a nightmare, and you're linked to this hive mind fantasy, your nightmare may bother someone else.
Nothing is actually real in the astral; it's all fantasy. Knowing this can also offer some safety from the horrors of the mind. The only trouble is: It's not just your own fantasy; it's that of everyone participating; be it consciously or accidental.

I suffer from an extreme case of Newtblo (NWTBLO). Also known as "not wanting to be left out".

Does being a Christian Contemplative count. I took a seminary course called "The Practical Theology of Mysticism" Some of what has been talked about here has parallels in the Judeo Christian traditions. Its not what conservative fundamental christians want to admit to but it is there.

Any thoughts?

Debbie

Well,  Shamanism and witchcraft are a practice, a philosophy, a mystical path. But not in itself a religion. Being christian doesn't mean you can't be a witch or shaman, in addition, though many pagans and christians alike will disagree with me, on that respect. (Because witchcraft is, these days, a term mainly used for wiccan religious activities.)
So you're not left out. It's all about spiritual journeys, and helping others who are in need of your help. In that respect; religion can be the basis for your spiritual path, but isn't nescessarily so.
For example, and this is an example used a lot on these forums, many christians do not 'walk the talk.' And that's fine in itself, because 'walking the talk' with christianity comes awfully close to witchcraft.

Quote from: Dryad on March 28, 2007, 08:02:13 PM
Hey, there! Wel met!

So a spirit totem, though it offers much insight and wisdom, isn't real.

Yea???  If you need to hold on to this kind of beliefs to feel secure...

Yes the path can be scary (or better still exciting); but we can choose to either vegetate by compartimenting or deniing the reality of our experiences, thougths, feelings, instincts, dreams, connections etc... by using labels to define or limit ourselves and others or we can live our destiny to the full by embrassing and integrating the physical, mental, emotional and spiritual.

We all have that choice.*

L L & R
Maebh

*May be the biggest BLESSING of ->-bleeped-<- is that it gives us an opportunity to be more aware of this?

Maebh: I believe you missed my draft. I said they were there. That they're not real doesn't mean they're not there...
Like I said; Heggenheim is the place between reality and fantasy; the place between wake and dream. There are all sorts of things in the astral that are there. Doesn't make them real, but that doesn't make them go away, either.

absolutley maebh.. the true definition of the word reality is "that which lies beneath" and i'm really excited about discovering what lies at my core.

Welcome Timberwolf. I wouldn't consider myself a shaman, however I have a few friends who've studied and taught me some things. I've delved more into pagan practices, reading tarot, etc., so perhaps I'm a witch  I definitely believe that being transgendered is a gift, if we choose to explore it, and can offer us much spiritual insight, because of our dual nature.

zythyra

absafrickinlutely