Swan
It's funny to hear someone finally recommending cheek implants.  ALL of the feedback I've received on the Yahoo FFS-Support group has been against the them strongly.  Dr. DiMaggio gave a very pragmatic explanation for suggestion the cheek implants which I liked.  He stated that it appeared I use to have an under-bite that was corrected with orthodontics and not surgery, so this made my cheeks appear more sunken.  He reasoned that implants would help the cheeks stand out given the strong lower projection.  I did in fact have a strong under-bite as a kid and had braces twice... pretty impressive he could determine all that based on just my current photos and my x-rays. I'm wondering if it would make sense to hold off on cheek implants to see how things turn out first though.  And then if I still want them, I could go to any surgeon in a year.

I am sorry for my late reply. My advice is to get the bone job done and to wait for the swelling to go completely and then to proceed with the cheeks reshaping. My advice is to go for dermal fillers. You can try with hyaluronic acid based filler and if you like the results you can have the same done with some of the permanent fillers. There are some that are FDA approved, and in London you have many permanent fillers to choose from. With dermal fillers you can get totally unique result that looks natural and you can do it little by little until you are happy with the results. The only problem is that you may need several syringes and it may be more expensive then having a surgery. Also in rare cases you may develop a foreign body reaction to the filler and you may need a surgery to get it removed.

does anyone know any blogs or livejournal pages where i can look at some more results of before and afters with dr maggio , other than the ones on the t change website

Yes join the yahoo group for ffs there are two actually both with quite a few Di Maggio pictures. Search yahoo groups for ffs support.

Quote from: lisakmoore on March 30, 2012, 12:45:11 AMSo if anyone has had experience with Dr. Z, are you satisfied with the amount of forehead reduction and the shape?

The orbital rim bone burring done by Dr. Z was a very subtle change for me. Then again, I didn't really have a prominent brow bone to begin with. I wasn't able to look at your pics but if you have a very prominent brow bone, I'd personally consider going to someone else.

Yes the endoscopic brow and bone contouring just isn't aggressive enoght for most. Type III reconstruction will give the best results. Remember less than 5% of people have no forehead sinus.

Quote from: JenJen2011 on April 04, 2012, 12:11:19 PM
The orbital rim bone burring done by Dr. Z was a very subtle change for me. Then again, I didn't really have a prominent brow bone to begin with. I wasn't able to look at your pics but if you have a very prominent brow bone, I'd personally consider going to someone else.

i have no idea if mine is prominant or not i think i have a strong orbital rim appearance but the actual physical projection of it from the profile of my face isnt a lot . maybe i should post some pictures on here with me with makeup and without to get some opinions . its good to get other peoples opinions besides just surgeons , someone who can be objective and doesnt have vested finacial interests etc

ill probably delete them soon , it freaks me out having pics up with no makeup on , on the internet hahaaha

The pictures are good, hard to tell what type brow (1234). Sounds like you haven't had the Cephlagram X-Rays yet, those will allow the Surgeon to determine your forehead type.

I already commented on yahoo fss. For optimal results:

Forehead reconstruction (type III likely)
Hairline correction
Brow lift
Feminising rhinoplasty
Lip lift
Chin and jaw reduction
Fat filler to forehead, cheeks and upper lip.

Amber

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Mementomri any chance of a frontal shot with some light as your face is shadowed?

Hi Mementomori,

I hope you will not take an offense from my comment. You pass 100% as a woman without make up but you look like an ugly woman. I don't see your eyebrows on the photo and I think that makes you ugly. In case you miss them more then anything else you need hair transplantation to get eyebrows.
Other than that I think that you pass. In case you still want to look more feminine you can have nose job, forehead work, hairline work, mandible work and perhaps lip lift.

Quote from: swan on April 04, 2012, 11:37:21 PM
Hi Mementomori,

I hope you will not take an offense from my comment. You pass 100% as a woman without make up but you look like an ugly woman. I don't see your eyebrows on the photo and I think that makes you ugly. In case you miss them more then anything else you need hair transplantation to get eyebrows.
Other than that I think that you pass. In case you still want to look more feminine you can have nose job, forehead work, hairline work, mandible work and perhaps lip lift.

lol its ok i know what you mean , the eyebrows well when i wear makeup i pencil them on my natural eyebrows are very low and i shave them off and pecil them in fromt scratch

Hum, shaving off eye-brows not very subtle... very 30s, early 60s or Goth...?

All is of course a question of personal taste (style?)

Your profile looks good - spare the nose. I agree a GOOD subtle nose job be a thing to consider. Quite so.
From the front the chin looks too 'substantial' and would need some attention.

Hairline... oh well, some women do have those issues too and it be of a lesser priority IMHO.

There you go, and good luck :-)
Axélle

Quote from: Axélle-Michélle on April 04, 2012, 11:50:53 PM
Hum, shaving off eye-brows not very subtle... very early 60s or Goth...?

All is of course a question of personal taste (style?)

Your profile looks good - spare the nose. I agree a GOOD subtle nose job be a thing to consider. Quite so.
From the front the chin looks too 'substantial' and would need some attention.

Hairline... oh well, some women do have those issues too and it be of a lesser priority IMHO.

There you go, and good luck :-)
Axélle

yea i knew id get comments on the eyebrow thing : P yea  into the " goth" thing  plus i just love the look penciled eyebrows think jean harlo or marlene dietrich ,  yea i would like my hairline rounded out i have these peak things in the side that ive always had even when i was 7 years old i had them  a lot of woman also have that but i do agree it defiantly is a ' mauscline " thing regardless

swan  i dont know if i agree with the passing for female thing though lol even if i put on a t-shirt and pants people do stare at me i guess trying to asses if im male or female , so i do have natural androgny so im hoping with ffs my face should be easy to feminize taking that into account as im not starting off with a hyper mauscline look

and yea the eyebrow thing a lot of my genetically female friends also shave off their eyebrows and draw them on , i like to think i have my own style but i guess it is quite a typically " goth' thing haahha

ive already had one nosejob you should have seen what my nose looked like BEFORE  this one haha , i defiantly do what a second rhinoplasty though

Let me be honest again, you look better with your eyebrows and YES you do pass. You have a very specific style, and people may stare at you because of that. I don't think they wonder if you are male of female. I think that the FFS will make you beautiful, but regarding your style I am not sure you are after that kind of looks. Take everything into consideration before you go under anesthesia.

Quote from: swan on April 05, 2012, 12:39:43 AM
Let me be honest again, you look better with your eyebrows and YES you do pass. You have a very specific style, and people may stare at you because of that. I don't think they wonder if you are male of female. I think that the FFS will make you beautiful, but regarding your style I am not sure you are after that kind of looks. Take everything into consideration before you go under anesthesia.

haha im confused what your saying ? are you asking if thats the look i want to be " beautifal' in a conventional way . yea despite my clothing and makeup not being to a lot of peoples taste i do still want to look beautifal/ pretty feature wise :p

Hey sweetie,

I am sorry for my English, it is not my first language. I am also a bit drowsy as I am recovering from my SRS. I hope you understand what I am saying. If a conventional beauty is what you are after, FFS is for you. Go for it

i had not even started hormones till 2 weeks after my FFS