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i need some help with blocking my testosterone

Started by Angelique1994, June 13, 2012, 07:08:00 PM

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Tori

Baby girl. I believe you.

Please don't say things that will get you blocked from this forum or a therapist. You are indeed, a fighter.

I know I can be strict with you. I may not stop for a while. Please do not doubt my best interests are with you. I have been there. Many times.

Is there any way you can finish HS online faster? And go to a university?

Really, college is a safe haven. Until then, unless you can support yourself, you may be stuck in Hell.

I can't solve your problems for you. But I respect them. I've had my own.

Aloha,
Tori

ps You can send me a PM any time


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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: Erin_Grey on June 13, 2012, 07:10:58 PM
No. There is nothing short of hormones that you can do to significantly reduce your T. Well, you could castrate yourself but that would be painful and stupid.

Anti - androgens are more effective than Hormones at reducing T. Not sure how you can get them without a script?
Living in the real world, not a fantasy
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apple pie

Quote from: Erin_Grey on June 14, 2012, 10:21:27 PM
Also-now bear with me now- I know y'all are going to call me looney tunes but I have been drinking a glass of soymilk a day since I started HRT and I swear it's at least helped a little with the breast growth (I know I know).

I know it sounds crazy but soy does have a very mild impact on estrogen levels. It's why they recommend cismen to not drink too much soy and why they tell women to cut back on it too because it may (may being the operative word) increase their risk for breast cancer.

Mmmmh I come from a place where all the kids basically grew up drinking soy milk, and even many adults will drink it quite often... :P I still love drinking it even now. It definitely doesn't make the guys grow any boobs :P
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Brooke777

Quote from: Angelique1994 on June 14, 2012, 10:05:07 PM
he has friends that are cops and he only tells them his side of the story and not mine so they think hes the angel and im the one starting the fights so they will stick up for him and make sure he gets out of trouble

Sorry to go off of the main point of the thread. I have some experience with abuse. I used to get beat growing up for doing anything that my step dad did not think a boy should do. Just to help keep on point here, I am not going to go into it. But, if you ever want to talk about it feel free to pm me.
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vlmitchell

Ooookay, few things here:

One: If your birthday is in a few weeks and you'll be 18, you can go see a GHP, tell him/her about what you need it for, and see if they'll let you start taking spiro. See if you can get a limited letter from your therapist authorizing this (happens all the time for pre-pubescent t-kids). Spironolactone is the drug that we use to block androgens before adding Estrogen and Progesterone. It's not terribly cheep ($80 for around a two month's supply) but it'll stop the testosterone from making you crazy/aggressive. It's worth the cost just for that by itself.

Two: I hate to let you in on this one but then again I dont: you're already as masculinized as you're going to be for quite some time. You have brow bossing and somewhat larger shoulders. A little while isn't going to make a huge difference. The only thing that would have mattered before 21 is starting anti-androgens before 12 so that you kept the voice and before 13-14 to prevent the couple of things you already have. Time is on your side from here one out as the rest of masculinization takes a pretty good deal of time to complete (you'd be fully complete at around 25). You're pretty and lucked out on the looks department even through puberty. Don't freak about it too much. I've got a softer set of features than 90% of trans-girls and I transitioned at 29. You've got time.

Three: As far as home life goes, you're going to have to (HAVE TO) learn the meaning of patience. At 18 you can get the hell on out of your parents home and do what you like. I hope that you have a college plan or something but if not, you'll be able to get somewhere and do something.

Four: Your dad is seriously angry because your being trans threatens his masculinity to his way of thinking. That's just the way western style modern men think in certain circles. You living full time is a serious blow to his ego because his friends see it and, if I'm reading his actions right, he sees that as demeaning himself in their eyes. I'm not saying that behavior or attitude is correct in any way but I will say that he's hurting a lot from his point of view and you understanding that and accepting it may make your life easier because you'll remember not to needle him with it all the time. I'm not saying don't be genuine about yourself nor hide yourself but, I recall being a teen. I wanted to be out there all the time every day. It was just a thing. Try reigning it in around the house and just being polite, respectful, and as loving as you can be. Try to be the daughter that you want him to see and love instead of the young woman, hell bent on living your life on your own terms that you know you are. Still the same person, just a different attitude. He still loves you. He's just confused and unable to accept the reality of the situation. Push too hard and too much and you may break that relationship forever which, while I'm sure might be a nice idea right now, you'd regret later on.

Five: If you want to go all the way, afford hormones, and all that jazz, you're going to have to learn to be a woman instead of a girl. Yes this means sacking the hard-party phase. From the sounds of things, you aren't going to get any help from home so you're probably going to have to spring for this yourself. That means working a job, keeping a level head, and trying hard to be mature enough to not spend every second partying your ass off or blowing everything on clothes and cosmetics (goodwill is your friend, really). The latter is fun but gets you nowhere. Transition costs somewhere around $30,000, even for someone your age (hormones + surgeries). You're definitely going to want to find the discipline to live life conservatively at THIS point so that you can enjoy the hell out of your later 20's (the better part by FAR!)

Hope this is taken as its meant. You have a long journey. Take it a day at a time, chick.
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Angelique1994

Quote from: Victoria Mitchell on June 15, 2012, 11:25:23 AM
Ooookay, few things here:

One: If your birthday is in a few weeks and you'll be 18, you can go see a GHP, tell him/her about what you need it for, and see if they'll let you start taking spiro. See if you can get a limited letter from your therapist authorizing this (happens all the time for pre-pubescent t-kids). Spironolactone is the drug that we use to block androgens before adding Estrogen and Progesterone. It's not terribly cheep ($80 for around a two month's supply) but it'll stop the testosterone from making you crazy/aggressive. It's worth the cost just for that by itself.

Two: I hate to let you in on this one but then again I dont: you're already as masculinized as you're going to be for quite some time. You have brow bossing and somewhat larger shoulders. A little while isn't going to make a huge difference. The only thing that would have mattered before 21 is starting anti-androgens before 12 so that you kept the voice and before 13-14 to prevent the couple of things you already have. Time is on your side from here one out as the rest of masculinization takes a pretty good deal of time to complete (you'd be fully complete at around 25). You're pretty and lucked out on the looks department even through puberty. Don't freak about it too much. I've got a softer set of features than 90% of trans-girls and I transitioned at 29. You've got time.

Three: As far as home life goes, you're going to have to (HAVE TO) learn the meaning of patience. At 18 you can get the hell on out of your parents home and do what you like. I hope that you have a college plan or something but if not, you'll be able to get somewhere and do something.

Four: Your dad is seriously angry because your being trans threatens his masculinity to his way of thinking. That's just the way western style modern men think in certain circles. You living full time is a serious blow to his ego because his friends see it and, if I'm reading his actions right, he sees that as demeaning himself in their eyes. I'm not saying that behavior or attitude is correct in any way but I will say that he's hurting a lot from his point of view and you understanding that and accepting it may make your life easier because you'll remember not to needle him with it all the time. I'm not saying don't be genuine about yourself nor hide yourself but, I recall being a teen. I wanted to be out there all the time every day. It was just a thing. Try reigning it in around the house and just being polite, respectful, and as loving as you can be. Try to be the daughter that you want him to see and love instead of the young woman, hell bent on living your life on your own terms that you know you are. Still the same person, just a different attitude. He still loves you. He's just confused and unable to accept the reality of the situation. Push too hard and too much and you may break that relationship forever which, while I'm sure might be a nice idea right now, you'd regret later on.

Five: If you want to go all the way, afford hormones, and all that jazz, you're going to have to learn to be a woman instead of a girl. Yes this means sacking the hard-party phase. From the sounds of things, you aren't going to get any help from home so you're probably going to have to spring for this yourself. That means working a job, keeping a level head, and trying hard to be mature enough to not spend every second partying your ass off or blowing everything on clothes and cosmetics (goodwill is your friend, really). The latter is fun but gets you nowhere. Transition costs somewhere around $30,000, even for someone your age (hormones + surgeries). You're definitely going to want to find the discipline to live life conservatively at THIS point so that you can enjoy the hell out of your later 20's (the better part by FAR!)

Hope this is taken as its meant. You have a long journey. Take it a day at a time, chick.
i accually am seeing a gender tharapist already i have been to bout 6 or 8 appointments and plus are u saying if i still look femine im gonna stay looking femine for awhile? and for the relationship between me and my dad thats already broken i hate his guts and plus his friends except me and dont even make fun of him bout it he just dont like it and when i tell him to please love me for the daughter i wanna be he always tells me that he dont have a daughter and never will
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vlmitchell

Quote from: Angelique1994 on June 15, 2012, 11:42:39 AM
i accually am seeing a gender tharapist already i have been to bout 6 or 8 appointments and plus are u saying if i still look femine im gonna stay looking femine for awhile? and for the relationship between me and my dad thats already broken i hate his guts and plus his friends except me and dont even make fun of him bout it he just dont like it and when i tell him to please love me for the daughter i wanna be he always tells me that he dont have a daughter and never will

Gender therapist: ask for a letter at least letting you on Spiro if she says that you're not ready for full HRT. Seriously.

Looks: Yup. You wont lose those for at least a couple of years but spiro would stop masculinization altogether. You *do* already have some effects of the T on your features and it will slowly get worse over time but nothing like puberty fast. Weeks ain't gonna wreck you, girlie.

Dad: Hate is a strong word. It will take a long, long time for someone to come around. Keep at it and don't let the anger rule your heart and soul.
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Angelique1994

Quote from: Victoria Mitchell on June 15, 2012, 11:48:02 AM
Gender therapist: ask for a letter at least letting you on Spiro if she says that you're not ready for full HRT. Seriously.

Looks: Yup. You wont lose those for at least a couple of years but spiro would stop masculinization altogether. You *do* already have some effects of the T on your features and it will slowly get worse over time but nothing like puberty fast. Weeks ain't gonna wreck you, girlie.

Dad: Hate is a strong word. It will take a long, long time for someone to come around. Keep at it and don't let the anger rule your heart and soul.
im gonna ask my gender tharapist next week wen i go see her and ask her about hormones and if she tells me not yet ill ask her about the spiro. and since u said i wont lose my prettyness and feminess look for atleast 2 years then im not gonna worry bout that as much anymore cause they have alot of beautiful women out there that have some masculin bone structure for example
tracy dimarco: my bone structure is pretty similar as hers but mine isnt as masculine. i even have a butt chin just like she does LMFAO


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Jamie D

Quote from: Angelique1994 on June 14, 2012, 10:01:12 PM
he refuses to go to tharapy and if he went to jail i would too cause im also part of the fight wen me and him are fighting

Not true!

You are a minor, being beaten up by an abusive father.  There isn't a jury in the state that would convict you, and not a prosecutor who would indict you.
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Jamie D

Quote from: Erin_Grey on June 14, 2012, 10:10:15 PM
We're the texting generation. This is what we excel at! >:-)

You are all going to end up with thumb cancer!
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Jamie D

Quote from: Angelique1994 on June 14, 2012, 10:25:40 PM
im going to see my tharapist next tuesday so wen i go and see her im gonna ask her wen she thinks shes gonna give me hormones and if she gives me the wrong answer ik this is bad to say on the forums and prolly will get this thread deleted or locked but im just gonna self medicate idc if its dangerious cause i really want hormones and ill do anything i have to to get them

Yes, it is dangerous.  And stupid.  And deadly.
I also know that people are in all sorts of desperate situations.
Just review Rule 8 of the Terms of Service.
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