Quote from: BlueSloth on August 03, 2012, 11:27:01 PM
When I read about the psychological and physical effects of hormones, it seems like low dose HRT is something I should have started a long time ago.  And that freaks me out a little.  I only learned about non-binary genders this year, and I'm still getting used to knowing that that's what I am.  Also, I'm pretty conservative about putting new things in my body, so I'm going to see how far I can get without HRT first.  I am considering it, though.

I'm not sure what to think about the poll results so far.  Most people are at least considering physical therapies, which means I'm not alone, which is nice.  But I was sort of hoping that needing to be treated medically was a rare thing for us.  I mean, obviously I don't have to take HRT if I really don't want it, and maybe I'll be one of the ones who doesn't need it.  But if that's what it takes to deal with the dysphoria and finally give me a chance to be ok with the way I am, so be it.

Last time I got a blood test I almost fainted though, so I hope it doesn't involve too many of those 

As for surgery, the only one I could possibly need is FFS, and I don't think that'd be worth it.  I'm not considering it.

ditto i wish i wish i started low dose hormones at like 16 or earlier , 16 is in my head becuase thats when i was flipping out about facial hair growing

Quote from: troyboi on August 07, 2012, 10:40:24 PM
Especially with estrogen, low dose HRT is becoming more of an option for people. Unfortunately, testosterone works fairly fast in comparison from what I've heard.

I would be very interested in what is going on as far as low dose T is concerned. It is something I have heard very little about. What's going on? Anybody trying this?
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Quote from: troyboi on August 07, 2012, 10:40:24 PM
Especially with estrogen, low dose HRT is becoming more of an option for people. Unfortunately, testosterone works fairly fast in comparison from what I've heard. What I'd like to know from someone who is on a low dose of t is whether they end up looking androgynous or just take longer to change to masculine looking?

Yes T works faster (than E). But this is not entirely true. There are people doing low dose T who do not pass. Or who only pass after several years on T. Of course, I believe that low dose T still gets you to the same place (as higher doses), but you would have more time. There are changes that are permanent and ones that are temporary. You have to be willing to take the permanent effects. (Something I am considering btw.) I haven't come to a conclusion here.

The big problem is that some people might want a "Peter Pan" type look. Whatever you do you will get older/old.


These people have done low dose and identify as genderqueer. Both of them decided to transition fully. I couldn't find anybody that stopped and stayed stopped unfortunately.

Partial FTM Transition (2008)

14. 5 1/2 Months on Super Low Dose T


--Jay Jay

Quote from: aleon515 on August 08, 2012, 06:51:54 PM
I couldn't find anybody that stopped and stayed stopped unfortunately.

Maddox has taken and stopped low-dose T. They don't have many videos on Youtube, which makes them a little harder to find.

First off I am not androgyne, I am female. However, I am married to an androgyne so I figure I can throw my 2 centavos in.

My spouse has been on HRT for the last 2 years and ze had breast reduction but not 'top surgery'. For most other FAB folks a breast reduction would not be a gender dysphoria related surgery, but for Sevan it was.

Quote from: cain on August 28, 2012, 12:00:47 PM
Maddox has taken and stopped low-dose T. They don't have many videos on Youtube, which makes them a little harder to find.

Since it only has been a few months, don't know what he might do. Some people seem to stop and start up again.

--Jay Jay

hrt, some hair removal on chest, no surgeries

I think Maddox is back on T, although I could be wrong.

Yeah I read his blog just the other day (he might have gone further in his transition than most-- going for a name change and I think gender marker change, etc.). I believe he still identifies as non-binary. To see what we are talking about you might want to see this. He writes really well: http://neutrois.me/

--Jay Jay

I made an appointment at a LGBT clinic and told my therapist last night that I'm going for it. 

Non-binary and wanting to go as far as possible. The problem is that the non-binary feeling gets somewhat weaker as denial barrers are demolished, so I don't know how things will shape / evolve after therapy.

Still can't feel any binary thing, but somewhat worried about the escale tilting. I don't mind the body, but I wanted to keep the mind completely neutral.

I am not sure if I fit your definition of androgyny or not as I still am not sure what I am. I quit trying to understand  because it produced depression and anxiety and seemed to be a never ending stressor with no clear resolution. I was always trying to force myself into definitions/labels where I did not necessarily meet all the criteria or attributes of the label. That created even more conflict.  I knew one thing clearly however. I simply could not continue down that path and survive without somehow addressing my GID. So I found  a gender therapist and started medication. Once the anxiety and depression lifted it became easier to address problems in therapy. 

It was a long and painful process and ending with an orchiectomy many years ago.  Easy to say but a very scary and long painful process.  It was an informed choice I made in lieu of full SRS and possibly losing my spouse. I could not imagine my life without her. Underlying health issues prohibited HRT.   I believed at the time that It would not work because I needed to fully transition for me to be mentally healthy. Funny thing happened along the way.

Without those male parts I began to feel better about myself and I actually looked "down there" for the first time in decades!   I know it sounds crazy but to look down there and not see or feel them was wonderfully uplifting.  I became calmer, my mood happier and I am bathed in emotions. My feelings, sense of self and emotions for the first time matched how I felt inside. In other words who I really was. WOW did that feel good. What a wonderful thing. In short, I felt great!   Its hard to explain. Sounds crazy I know.

Now my skin has softened, face feminized, hair is gone, breasts have grown and my remaining part has shrunk substantially. I feel more feminine and it feels right. Probably more info than you wanted. Sorry

Quote from: Crt.rnA on September 13, 2012, 05:07:33 PMThe problem is that the non-binary feeling gets somewhat weaker as denial barrers are demolished

I know what you mean, but have come to accept that as not as a problem.

If you are dying of thirst, water is the most glorious thing you could possibly find.  If you're not, your feelings for water are much less intense... but you still wouldn't give it up forever

I wouldn't worry too much about being absolutely neutral.  Neutrality implies that male and female are polar opposites, and I just don't believe that anymore.  Don't be neutral, be you.

every night i wish to be rid of my breasts, since i can feel them so much better. but they look nice in the mirror, so whenever i think about not having them when wearing a dress, i just...
and then there is that deeper voice which i miss. but i still can't seem to make myself ask someone to help me out with anything, since i don't trust norwegian health care in the least. especially not when it comes to non-binary issues

at least i've figured out that a full transition would be pretty much useless for me. i just don't know what alternatives would be better or worse, and i have no idea where to go for professional help

Unless you're experiencing dysphoria that is messing up things, you seem to be able to make your own choices.
This is important. Some of us spent a lot of time getting to that point.
If you think you need help, a therapist who knows about being transgender, especially non-binary, is a big help.
Are you doing better than say, a year ago? It takes time, careful thinking, and finding resources that work.
Just remember not to become what you read, and to always be yourself.
Your gender just a part of who you are. Be yourself and it should fall into place, become apparent.

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Quote from: Metroland on July 25, 2012, 01:30:04 PM
I would love to have some sort of HRT. 

What's crazy is because of my medical past I have NO hormones in my body, which might be the reason why I have issues with my sexuality and gender!

Hoping and planning for HRT, SRS, not sure if I would need FFS or not yet. I know who I am and what I have always wanted.

I thought I would know who I am by this point in my life, but I just feel lost...

Yea, I do think of getting some physical therapies. Just not sure how far I would want them to take me. Wouldn't want to take T for long, for example. It seems I long for having a more manly torso (and without breasts), but I wouldn't want any more body hair or especially having to deal with baldness at some point of my life!

So I'm still at crossroads about where to go from here. Currently I just work out and run to get myself a more laddish look. Luckily I have naturally broad shoulders (wider than my hips). I hope that getting in better shape will make me feel more comfortable.

Toned muscles always look good.
Even if they aren't what you want exactly, they seem to accentuate the look you want.
Lean and mean always goes with everything.

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