Hello fellow gender surfers! I was thinking recently after seeing the movie, Some Like it Hot with Marilyn Monroe, that my perspective on breasts has really changed. Years ago, when 'I wore another man's clothes' so to speak, I would have been riveted to the screen to see those bullet shaped beautiful boobs. They were attracting me and also causing tremendous jealousy all at the same time. I was certainly boob oriented. That is, until I got mine. Of course, I love them, wouldn't trade them, but I never seem to care much about looking or touching boobs now (other than mine). I don't know if it is the familiarity factor or the fact that the jealousy is gone or what. Any thoughts? Did your perspective change after your 'hills came alive,' or am I just making a mountain out of a molehill?
Moni
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Same affection here. But most (?) lesbians are.
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Quote from: HappyMoni on February 28, 2019, 05:16:25 PM
Hello fellow gender surfers! I was thinking recently after seeing the movie, Some Like it Hot with Marilyn Monroe, that my perspective on breasts has really changed. Years ago, when 'I wore another man's clothes' so to speak, I would have been riveted to the screen to see those bullet shaped beautiful boobs. They were attracting me and also causing tremendous jealousy all at the same time. I was certainly boob oriented. That is, until I got mine. Of course, I love them, wouldn't trade them, but I never seem to care much about looking or touching boobs now (other than mine). I don't know if it is the familiarity factor or the fact that the jealousy is gone or what. Any thoughts? Did your perspective change after your 'hills came alive,' or am I just making a mountain out of a molehill?
Moni
@HappyMoni Dear Moni:Yes indeed, things have certainly changed regarding the display of clothing covered boob displays. I also recall the older Marilyn Monroe, Doris Day, etc movies when the actresses wore those "torpedo" bras...
Madonna brought that back as "outerwear" back in the late 90's ....
(https://i.imgur.com/SEL36xz.jpg)
Thank you for posting your thoughts...
Hugs,
Danielle
I have felt the same change in perspective, not just with breasts, but with many things that I formerly found titillating. Now, the nicest thing about breasts is that I have my own and I can play with them any time I want. I no longer feel jealous of other women. If I see a pretty woman, I appreciate her beauty and her presentation, but the envy is gone. Now, underwear is just underwear.
Perhaps it is due to having my T suppressed now. But I think this change in perspective started before I started HRT. Maybe it is just familiarity. I have a feeling it is deeper than that, but I can't put my finger on what it is.
Well, yes, Moni has this one right, I think.
Now that I have them, I am happy knowing that my clothes will fit better, and that I can more readily wear a swimsuit without fear of an 'oops' moment. I discovered last summer that swimming, something I have avoided since I was about 13, is a very pleasant experience for me, and with enough breast tissue to fill out a swimsuit, I won't be worried about 'wardrobe malfunctions' of the worst kind in a public place.
I also have a nice resort dress that I hope will wear better...
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This is a 'before' shot of that dress, with me using ... extraordinary measures... I'll try again once I've healed up a bit from the BA.
Quote from: HappyMoni on February 28, 2019, 05:16:25 PM
Hello fellow gender surfers! I was thinking recently after seeing the movie, Some Like it Hot with Marilyn Monroe, that my perspective on breasts has really changed. Years ago, when 'I wore another man's clothes' so to speak, I would have been riveted to the screen to see those bullet shaped beautiful boobs. They were attracting me and also causing tremendous jealousy all at the same time. I was certainly boob oriented. That is, until I got mine. Of course, I love them, wouldn't trade them, but I never seem to care much about looking or touching boobs now (other than mine). I don't know if it is the familiarity factor or the fact that the jealousy is gone or what. Any thoughts? Did your perspective change after your 'hills came alive,' or am I just making a mountain out of a molehill?
Moni
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God you are hilarious. Gender surfers :D I only have the breasts that 1/3 dose Estrogen gave me so... umm not so much. But yeah I know what you are talking about regarding looking with both attraction and jealousy. What you are saying makes sense to me.
I guess I'm in the minority in that breasts were never the big attraction for me. As part of the entire feminine package, yes, of course, but my attention was always drawn by hair, legs, and overall shape. I never understood why guys were so obsessed with breasts.
Now I'm taking great joy in growing my own, and I've been telling myself that size doesn't matter as long as they're noticeable as a required part of a nice presentation. And I've been telling myself that I can wait until I see what HRT does for me, and I'm not all that interested in doing it with implants.
Yup. That's what I've been telling myself.
Lately, though, I've found myself telling myself, "self, you need to shut up." Right now I'm at a minimal 36B, and I've been on HRT for a little over 20 months. I'm getting a bit impatient. Like Danielle, 36C would be fine, but I don't know whether I'm as far as I'm going to go or not.
I told myself I was going to let HRT take care of my face, too, and I told myself to shut up about that. I've been to FacialTeam for some minimal FFS, and I'm in the process of making plans to finish work on the mugly ugh with a face and neck lift, some moving around of fat in my face, and a surface peel. The same clinic has also started doing body contouring, with liposuction and injection.
They also will use the same procedure for breast enhancement. I'm thinking that maybe that would give me the shape I'm craving until the real thing catches up. Hmmm.
Shut up, self.
Stephanie
I think I've gone from the typical man to the typical women. I loved them from both sides, but such a different feeling.
I guess that some of this shift in perspective also has to do with aging. I am pre-everything, so can't really talk about having own breasts (except for wearing breast forms and looking down noticing that they look so right there; not sure if that counts...), but I noticed over the years my views changed from the adolescent male's desire to grab and play with my girlfriend's breasts to a more middle-aged neutral perspective of acknowledging that that they do look good to the budding trans person's need to know how it feels having a pair of them. Oh, and yes, from asking my male self why in the world any woman would like to have large breasts to wanting to have a pair of them on my body as well!
Thinking of breasts I am reminded of this old joke: What do a set of boobs and an electric miniature toy train set have in common? Answer: Both are for the kids but dad's playing with them. I hope this wasn't too bad...
HM
Quote from: Iztaccihuatl on March 01, 2019, 12:35:53 AM
I guess that some of this shift in perspective also has to do with aging. I am pre-everything, so can't really talk about having own breasts (except for wearing breast forms and looking down noticing that they look so right there; not sure if that counts...), but I noticed over the years my views changed from the adolescent male's desire to grab and play with my girlfriend's breasts to a more middle-aged neutral perspective of acknowledging that that they do look good to the budding trans person's need to know how it feels having a pair of them. Oh, and yes, from asking my male self why in the world any woman would like to have large breasts to wanting to have a pair of them on my body as well!
Thinking of breasts I am reminded of this old joke: What do a set of boobs and an electric miniature toy train set have in common? Answer: Both are for the kids but dad's playing with them. I hope this wasn't too bad...
HM
No that wasn't bad, PG at worst. I did smile when I read it. Regarding the breast forms - for me they were important to me in the first few months of transition. I haven't worn them in 2 years although my breast growth is small. I grew out of them mentally ( I wish physically ) but now it just doesn't seem to make sense. Now I wear some small slip in pads that go in the pocket of the bra. My former roommate who was a cis woman had a pair also. They are pretty common among small breasted women.
I totally get why someone would want to use them pre transition and early in transition. A friend of mine asked me the first few months I was full time why I wore them. I didn't have a good answer. They just made me feel better because I was flat chested without them. Now at least I am not flat chested but close LOL.
You will know when you can put them on a shelf or donate them.
I was reflecting on similar thoughts today. From the days when I rushed home from work to throw off the dreaded 'boy clothes' and wear a nice dress, lingerie etc to now when it's shorts and t-shirt or the gym clothes and the 'Oh I must glam up a bit to go out to dinner and the 'I wonder where I put my make up?' to the 'Thank god I can take that bra off' and the 'Oh bug I'd better put a top on since the neighbours are in their garden' and the - I'm content.
That is what the whole journey, fight and tears were for - to be normal and happy.
[and I did have breast forms that I cherished and they helped me enormously to cope in those days when coping was all I could do]
Quote from: KimOct on March 01, 2019, 12:53:49 AM
No that wasn't bad, PG at worst. I did smile when I read it. Regarding the breast forms - for me they were important to me in the first few months of transition. I haven't worn them in 2 years although my breast growth is small. I grew out of them mentally ( I wish physically ) but now it just doesn't seem to make sense. Now I wear some small slip in pads that go in the pocket of the bra. My former roommate who was a cis woman had a pair also. They are pretty common among small breasted women.
I totally get why someone would want to use them pre transition and early in transition. A friend of mine asked me the first few months I was full time why I wore them. I didn't have a good answer. They just made me feel better because I was flat chested without them. Now at least I am not flat chested but close LOL.
You will know when you can put them on a shelf or donate them.
I guess this is also part of our mental evolution while becoming the person we want to be. At the stage where I am now, it is kinda important for me to (a) see that there are breasts and (b) feel at least the weight of them. That's why I went with silicone forms rather than foam ones. I know that you ladies who are further along than me must now be rolling your eyes...
BTW, I am not looking for big ones, my only problem is that I have a huge thorax resulting in a 44 band size, primarily due to my skeletal features. Try to find an A-cup bra for that band! And with that band even B cups look huge and the only bra models available are full coverage bras. Admittedly, those aren't too bad with breast forms since they hold them nicely in place, but if I ever go on hormones and develop A-cup breasts (my mom and sister are both B's, so the max I would realistically expect is a set of A's) I'd run into another dilemma. Well, one problem at a time!
I was always jealous more then anything. Being bi I have always enjoyed looking at them and I still do to a extent. Since transitioning though since I am now free to wear stuff that I want to I'm far more likely to look at a woman and see her outfit and think something to the effect you are wearing that or wow I love those clothes and or shoes.
Another thing I learned after a while is if you tell a female where you found x article of clothing they will buy it and kill uniqueness so often now unless it is a real close friend the store slips my mind.
I still like to enjoy the view. But without the testosterone to drive the lust, it's mostly thoughts of "Gee, she looks good. I hope mine might someday look that nice."
After two years (to the day actually!) of HRT, I'm falling quite a bit short of the theorized "one cup size less than your nearest female relatives." I'm barely into a B cup while family are D or DD.
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In my experience, it was the beauty of women that I admired. Not so much the lustful thoughts that T poisoning inspired, but of the grace and smooth lines that women had.
Now I realize that it was all envy.....
Quote from: Iztaccihuatl on March 01, 2019, 07:55:03 AM
I guess this is also part of our mental evolution while becoming the person we want to be. At the stage where I am now, it is kinda important for me to (a) see that there are breasts and (b) feel at least the weight of them. That's why I went with silicone forms rather than foam ones. I know that you ladies who are further along than me must now be rolling your eyes...
BTW, I am not looking for big ones, my only problem is that I have a huge thorax resulting in a 44 band size, primarily due to my skeletal features. Try to find an A-cup bra for that band! And with that band even B cups look huge and the only bra models available are full coverage bras. Admittedly, those aren't too bad with breast forms since they hold them nicely in place, but if I ever go on hormones and develop A-cup breasts (my mom and sister are both B's, so the max I would realistically expect is a set of A's) I'd run into another dilemma. Well, one problem at a time!
don't worry about us rolling our eyes - most of us were there too, I was. Yeah I'm part of the 44A club it sucks. But I found one after some searching that had small pockets for the slip in pads. i use gel ones and they are much much cheaper than the expensive full prosthesis. I used to pay $500 for those. The small pads are like $40. I do at least have 'something' of my own breasts so with the slip in pads it works. I think you will end up where I am it sounds like.
Keep using the prosthesis and eventually you will reach a day - eh.. I don't need these anymore. Don't compare yourself to others, you are at a different step on this path.
Quote from: Cindy on March 01, 2019, 01:06:50 AM
That is what the whole journey, fight and tears were for - to be normal and happy.
That's what this is about!!! Oh crap, I don't think I'll ever be more than 50% on this one. If you look at my name, you can probably figure out which 50%.
Like many of you, I waited and watched my chest and hoped for more size. The nipple pain ended for me pretty early. I think I took a higher dose of E hoping to get more, but it didn't happen. I spent so much time hoping and wanting them. It's funny that I use a small enhancement on my butt, but didn't want to enhance with forms up top. Getting BA took all that away for me. It is rare that I notice them in every day life though even though I am told they are double D's. I just feel like me. Of course, when I wear a top that is form fitting like yesterday, I can't say I hate the attention. I have decided that the butt I can live with. It does really surprise me that I could go from intense craving of boobs to 'eh' so quickly. There are parts of the male anatomy that I have gone in the opposite direction. Go figure!
Loved the train joke.
Steph, hee hee hee, you know you are gonna listen eventually.
Kim, I had a major dysphoria melt down in the middle of a bra store trying to find a bigger band smaller cup. I left and cried my eyes out. I finally found bras in my least favorite store, Walmart. They were good cheap bras. I had to give them away post surgery though.
I doubt I will have BA - not absolutely ruling it out but doubtful. If I had BA I would at least also want a nose job, I don't want to look like a dude with boobs. The combination of my health issues and the downturn in my finances make it iffy at best. I am working at trying to be OK with my body as it is but that has been a struggle.
I think no matter what we can or can't do to our bodies, it does come down to mentally finding peace with ourselves and our body. We do what is within our grasp to make things better. To pine away for what can't be done is a waste. Of course, all this is easy to say. Everyone on this site knows intimately, how hard it can be. Hope your health issues are improving Kim.
I was always very breast oriented, and still am. I still like to see a nice set of boobs, it may be because of my lesbian lening, I don't know.
I never had any desire to dress in female clothing (I was way to hard working to try to look like a guy), and when I started to wear female clothing, I had already some Ok looking breasts of my own.
Because of this, the "I wish I had breasts" thoughts never crossed my mind.
I am pretty happy with my current breast growth. They are still hurting, an I assume it emans, they are still growing.
I don't know what size I will end up with, but I hope it is not more than a C cup (that would be a good cup size more than I have presently)
Thanks Moni, Just to clarify my health issues so it doesn't sound so dramatic. My cancer appears to be in check. I had a kidney removed two years ago. Been battling cancer for 7 years with 5 surgeries but nothing for 18 months. Chemo every 6 months as a preventative measure.
The challenge to BA FFS and vaginoplasty is my heart status. I have heart failure and have a 39% heart function. Between 50 and 75 is normal. So I am at higher risk for any surgery.
It's funny on paper I look deathly ill. If you see me in person I look fine. Even my close friends and relatives tend to forget my health issues but the doctors remember when it comes to elective surgery.
A cosmetic surgeon told me even a nose job would have to be in the hospital thereby doubling the cost.
I usually don't go in depth about this but I wanted to clarify.
It took me a while to realize just how obvious my 32A boobs are! I've caught people staring at them! But, when you are thin enough for your ribs to be visible, well, it doesn't take much fat in the right places to look feminine.
Quote from: KimOct on March 02, 2019, 01:44:04 PM
A cosmetic surgeon told me even a nose job would have to be in the hospital thereby doubling the cost.
I usually don't go in depth about this but I wanted to clarify.
Once in awhile i wonder how much gate keeping is going on with this! About 20 years ago I was diagnosed with Type II diabetes (the normal stuff for many intersex people), and I am still able to manage it with diet, exercise and pills, no injections required! With other words, my diabetes is pretty well controlled.
When I started to inquire about a voluntary orchi (as a trans woman), I was informed that such a procedure is to risky for a diabetic, and hardly anybody would do it!
After changing the urologist, and reporting problems with my testicles (as a guy), it took about 4 weeks and they were history!
I bet I will face a similar road block with SRS if I will start to check into it!
Like you, I was very much boob orientated.. now I am not.. I loved checking women's breasts out
Like you I was also very jealous of women, that they got to grow breasts and even that they got to wear bras. I remember when I started Hormones I was very excited to grow breasts. I remember that first morning I awoke to sensitive nipples, I was in cloud 9. When my breast buds formed, I could not not stop touching them, I love feeling that hard stone like growth that formed behind my nipple... making them more sensitive. Day 1 in a bra, because I actually needed to wear one was amazing.. I still remember the bra, it was a grey padded sports bra. I wore sports bra until I was a full A cup.. then I wore a normal bras.. I remember that day 1 too.. it was a black padded t-shirt bra. Putting a bra on with the hook in the back took some learning.
Now almost a decade later.. I still love wearing bras and actually all lingerie, I wear a 36D bra and love my breasts... but the novelty has worm off and I don't stare at breasts in public. This could also be the fact, that during my transition, I discovered I was a straight woman and with that I was only sexually attracted to men.
Quote from: noleen111 on March 03, 2019, 04:14:59 AM
Like you, I was very much boob orientated.. now I am not.. I loved checking women's breasts out
Now almost a decade later.. I still love wearing bras and actually all lingerie, I wear a 36D bra and love my breasts... but the novelty has worm off and I don't stare at breasts in public. This could also be the fact, that during my transition, I discovered I was a straight woman and with that I was only sexually attracted to men.
Wow, Noleen, thank you for posting, I can really relate to what you said. Orientation change kind of goes in line with the lack of interest in boobs, I think. @noleen111
What can I say Moni, I always loved looking at a good pair of breasts. Even after mine started growing I still love to look. I save my playing for both mine and my partners. My girls have been growing for about two and a half years (though much slower of late) and I am not sure what size they will settle at. That said I like my current size and enjoy filling a blouse and catching the occasional stare or look. I also enjoy being the one giving the occasional glance at another women's breasts......by the way, yours are quite lovely. ;)
Tia Anne
Quote from: Anne Blake on March 03, 2019, 02:57:12 PM
.....by the way, yours are quite lovely. ;)
Tia Anne
I knew I shouldn't have taken you to that nude beach when you were here! Or was it the bathing suit pictures from out in the snow? lol
Hi Monica,
I never really developed breasts on HRT. Then I had a 555 cc BA and over night I had boobies. I compare and contrast my shape and size but less as time goes on. Very quickly my frame of reference changed from having nothing to being in the middle of the pack.
I have noticed that thin woman have smaller boobies. So as I become more fit and my size become relatively larger or more proportionate.
Clothes fit very well. When at the gym in fitted tops my piercings show. This is with a tight sports bra. :)
Quote from: Rachel on March 03, 2019, 07:01:47 PM
Hi Monica,
I never really developed breasts on HRT. Then I had a 555 cc BA and over night I had boobies. I compare and contrast my shape and size but less as time goes on. Very quickly my frame of reference changed from having nothing to being in the middle of the pack.
I have noticed that thin woman have smaller boobies. So as I become more fit and my size become relatively larger or more proportionate.
Clothes fit very well. When at the gym in fitted tops my piercings show. This is with a tight sports bra. :)
Would you please be so kind and enlighten me (and probably some others here) which bra cup size a 555 cc augmentation reflects?
Quote from: Dietlind on March 03, 2019, 09:30:44 PM
Would you please be so kind and enlighten me (and probably some others here) which bra cup size a 555 cc augmentation reflects?
Cup size is such a weird way to describe breasts. I had 640 cc implants and I was told it was a double D. Now when I think double D, I think humongous boobs. They don't look that way for me, they look pretty proportional to me. I weigh around 170 and 5'7" tall. On a thinner girl, they would look really big.
Rachel, hi Honey! Glad you are happy with them. Did you ever go blond?
I guess I'd say my main perspective change is intimately overlooking my own B cup breasts ;-). I always was most attracted to small breasts and so while they're small on my frame, they're still just fine!
I'm very much still attracted to other women, tho now I guess what gets me is hips, not any particular shape, just hips that are more broad than the waist. And of course that's what I'm envious of.
Honestly now I'd say I'm intimately aware that women I'm attracted to have vaginas and uterus. Most women offer me a full body hug and just feeling another woman's curves against mine is something that tells me all is right in my world.
🙂🙂
Sadie
Quote from: HappyMoni on March 04, 2019, 08:40:27 PM
Cup size is such a weird way to describe breasts. I had 640 cc implants and I was told it was a double D. Now when I think double D, I think humongous boobs. They don't look that way for me, they look pretty proportional to me. I weigh around 170 and 5'7" tall. On a thinner girl, they would look really big.
Rachel, hi Honey! Glad you are happy with them. Did you ever go blond?
You are right, because the cup size is only of value in relation to the band size. But it is the only measure I have for breast size, I have no idea how many cc's I have growing on my chest. I know, I could measure this, but that is way to messy for my desire to know it!
OK I am totally new to this discussion...but I love the chance to finally participate.
I measured my chest per Victoria Secrets bra calculator before HRT and I did it again over the weekend. I grew 1 1/2 inches in three months. According to them I am a 40B. I am really ignorant about what this all means...I am excited but really ignorant.
I also have a question: I now notice solid fatty deposits behind each nibble. Is that normal?
Those are known as breast buds. They should be fairly hard, more or less right behind the nipple, and are usually quite painful when you bump them into walls and doors with your newly protruding chest. Breast growth turns walking into a learning experience.
Thanks for your answer Colleen.
When I googled "breast buds" this came up and I thought it was humorously appropriate:
"Developing breast buds is one of the first signs of puberty and a lot of girls find this part of growing up awkward and
confusing."
My emotions rage like puberty and my processing of being transgender is definitely awkward and confusing!!! ??? >:-) :angel: :P >:( ;D
Quote from: Colleen_definitely on March 05, 2019, 08:11:17 AM
Those are known as breast buds. They should be fairly hard, more or less right behind the nipple, and are usually quite painful when you bump them into walls and doors with your newly protruding chest. Breast growth turns walking into a learning experience.
And boy, do they hurt! All gaps are way more narrow than I remember them to be, and they are all out to hurt me!
Emma, forget what that bra calculator tells you, because if you see the cups of a 40 B bra, you feel like taking it for grocery shopping!
Those calculators don't consider the big rib cage many of us have!
Yeah I agree with Linde, I would be shocked if you are a B cup after a few months on HRT. I guess it is possible but I would be very surprised. As she said it is probably about rib cage but I am super happy for you that you are seeing results.
So this is a little embarrassing but as always - in all candor - I have been researching something called 'noogleberry' it is a breast pump device that is supposed to increase size over time. I am extremely hesitant to believe anything regarding increasing breast size other than HRT and implants.
So I have been researching this pretty thoroughly not just the company hype but users etc. It seems believable because it says it takes time and my expectations are minimal. My breasts are small but definitely exist. If I could increase them from a full A cup to a small B cup I would be happy with that. The cost is around $80 so the risk is low.
Anyone here ever here about this 'Noogleberry" in particular or use them?
Ok I told you all I was a "breast owner" amateur.
Good thing Linde I didn't order the bra otherwise I would have had to have taken it shopping ;D
and Kim I won't know what to do with them at this stage of my transition. I am still learn from you all :D ;D
Quote from: KimOct on March 05, 2019, 04:55:19 PM
Yeah I agree with Linde, I would be shocked if you are a B cup after a few months on HRT. I guess it is possible but I would be very surprised. As she said it is probably about rib cage but I am super happy for you that you are seeing results.
So this is a little embarrassing but as always - in all candor - I have been researching something called 'noogleberry' it is a breast pump device that is supposed to increase size over time. I am extremely hesitant to believe anything regarding increasing breast size other than HRT and implants.
So I have been researching this pretty thoroughly not just the company hype but users etc. It seems believable because it says it takes time and my expectations are minimal. My breasts are small but definitely exist. If I could increase them from a full A cup to a small B cup I would be happy with that. The cost is around $80 so the risk is low.
Anyone here ever here about this 'Noogleberry" in particular or use them?
I just wrote a long answer on your Noogleberry thing, I posted it, and it did disappear! Here we go again!
I am the moderator of a German Transgender Forum, and we have two girls there, who said they have never taken any hormones, but just pumped a couple of hour every day, and have something like a B cup breast.
Medically this makes sense. The pumping increases the blood flow dramatically to this area, and blood carries the nutrients needed for tissue growth. I think, however that these breasts are more like a version of moobs, because they breast tissue was not stimulated by hormones, and thus did not grow.
However, you have real breast tissue there already, you just seem to miss the fat deposit to make the girls look big. I bet pumping could build up fat around there, and you boobs would grow.
It is way cheaper and way less painful than implant, and may even look more natural. It would be worth while a trial, but you have to invest quite a bit of time with pumping!
Moni honey. I only have one answer for you from the greatest garage band of all time. The Fugs.
Do you like boobs a lot?
(Yes, I like boobs a lot)
Why d'you like boobs a lot?
(You gotta like boobs a lot)
... [?]
Do you like boobs a lot?
(Yes, I like boobs a lot)
Why d'you like boobs a lot?
(You gotta like boobs a lot)
Do you like boobs a lot?
(Yes, I like boobs a lot)
Why d'you like boobs a lot?
(You gotta like boobs a lot)
YES YES YES
Quote from: DawnOday on March 05, 2019, 08:35:54 PM
Moni honey. I only have one answer for you from the greatest garage band of all time. The Fugs.
Do you like boobs a lot?
(Yes, I like boobs a lot)
Why d'you like boobs a lot?
(You gotta like boobs a lot)
... [?]
Do you like boobs a lot?
(Yes, I like boobs a lot)
Why d'you like boobs a lot?
(You gotta like boobs a lot)
Do you like boobs a lot?
(Yes, I like boobs a lot)
Why d'you like boobs a lot?
(You gotta like boobs a lot)
YES YES YES
Good beat. Easy to dance to. I give it a 5.
Quote from: KimOct on March 05, 2019, 04:55:19 PM
Anyone here ever here about this 'Noogleberry" in particular or use them?
Oh gosh yes, that is my favorite cereal!
Dawn,
You like boobs how much????
A lot. When I walk down my stairs in my attire I look down to see them and I feel so femme. I don't want bigger ones. The ones I have are just fine. They are C's. That's why I don't go in public often. I don't want to be looking down and run into a pole.
Quote from: HappyMoni on March 05, 2019, 08:50:09 PM
Oh gosh yes, that is my favorite cereal!
Dawn,
You like boobs how much????
LMAO Yeah I really like the crunchy fruit flavored nuggets. ;D
Quote from: Dietlind on March 05, 2019, 06:29:57 PM
I just wrote a long answer on your Noogleberry thing, I posted it, and it did disappear! Here we go again!
I am the moderator of a German Transgender Forum, and we have two girls there, who said they have never taken any hormones, but just pumped a couple of hour every day, and have something like a B cup breast.
Medically this makes sense. The pumping increases the blood flow dramatically to this area, and blood carries the nutrients needed for tissue growth. I think, however that these breasts are more like a version of moobs, because they breast tissue was not stimulated by hormones, and thus did not grow.
However, you have real breast tissue there already, you just seem to miss the fat deposit to make the girls look big. I bet pumping could build up fat around there, and you boobs would grow.
It is way cheaper and way less painful than implant, and may even look more natural. It would be worth while a trial, but you have to invest quite a bit of time with pumping!
Yeah that sounds a lot like what I was reading from sources that appeared to be objective and I know you have a medical background. If it was big money I wouldn't take a risk but for $80 what the hell? When I have a few extra bucks in a couple of weeks I am going to order it. I will be the guinea pig :D Then when I look like Dolly Parton who will be laughing then? :D ;D Yeah right - if it does enough to notice I will be happy.
Hey Kim maybe we can get a group rate? ;D
Quote from: DawnOday on March 05, 2019, 09:03:13 PM
A lot. When I walk down my stairs in my attire I look down to see them and I feel so femme. I don't want bigger ones. The ones I have are just fine. They are C's. That's why I don't go in public often. I don't want to be looking down and run into a pole.
They put blinders on horses, maybe we could get you some boobie blinders so you can go out again. The closest I got to a C cup was my coffee cup with
The Little Mermaid on it. Damn Girl!
Quote from: KimOct on March 05, 2019, 10:59:16 PM
LMAO Yeah I really like the crunchy fruit flavored nuggets. ;D
Kim, this is the first thing you said that I disagree with. No nuggets for me. You got something with the sucking on the boobie thing though.
Oh, back to the thread before I tick off the original poster. (She's a mean one.) I bought a strapless, push up bra and got it today. Unfortunately, I applied Aquaphor to my boobs scars (from my laser treatment yesterday) before I thought about trying it. Do you all remember the old 'lift and separate' commercials. What were they thinking? This bra is sticky and pulls them together and up. Can you say cleavage? Well, I'll try tomorrow. Hoping I don't look like Jessica Rabbit!
Moni
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Oh, back to the thread before I tick off the original poster. (She's a mean one.) I bought a strapless, push up bra and got it today. Unfortunately, I applied Aquaphor to my boobs scars (from my laser treatment yesterday) before I thought about trying it. Do you all remember the old 'lift and separate' commercials. What were they thinking? This bra is sticky and pulls them together and up. Can you say cleavage? Well, I'll try tomorrow. Hoping I don't look like Jessica Rabbit!
Moni
@HappyMoniDear Moni:That would be an exciting photo of you for all of us to see!!!!
For members that are not fully aware of the female attributes that Jessica Rabbit pictures display, do a Google Image Search .... who knows?
Moni, you may just get enthralled with all of the attention that you would be receiving.
... I will be eagerly waiting for your update and possible photo tomorrow!!! ;) ;D :o ::)
Hugs and best wishes.Danielle
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on March 06, 2019, 05:58:17 PM
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Dear Moni:
That would be an exciting photo of you for all of us to see!!!!
For members that are not fully aware of the female attributes that Jessica Rabbit pictures display, do a Google Image Search .... who knows? Moni, you may just get enthralled with all of the attention that you would be receiving.
... I will be eagerly waiting for your update and possible photo tomorrow!!! ;) ;D :o ::)
Hugs and best wishes.
Danielle
Yes Moni! We
all would love to see that!
Oh my, we'll see. lol
Moni, is it one of those little silicone self adhesive ones? If so the results are usually pretty dramatic.
Damn girl !!! Sign me up for the Jessica Rabbit look. :D
Quote from: KimOct on March 06, 2019, 11:43:08 PM
Damn girl !!! Sign me up for the Jessica Rabbit look. :D
Are you sure you want that? Some door gaps are already way to small for my B size girls, and I scrape them constantly at something, think about how much hurt you could get with those thingers! >:-)
Quote from: HappyMoni on March 02, 2019, 06:36:28 AM
I think no matter what we can or can't do to our bodies, it does come down to mentally finding peace with ourselves and our body. We do what is within our grasp to make things better. To pine away for what can't be done is a waste. Of course, all this is easy to say. Everyone on this site knows intimately, how hard it can be. Hope your health issues are improving Kim.
Yes. I was sitting this morning thinking about this. Knowing that I am trans is a first step. Really I want to find peace with my body. Change what I can. Accepting what I can't. I too have health and money concerns. I can't be on hormones right now. I had a blood clot last year hopefully by summer. I can take that step..
Still I long to wake up beautiful and happy more feminine every day.
Patience is hard. Hope is eternal.
Gina
Patience is hard. Hope is eternal. Very wise and true.
Gina - As someone else that has health and money issues impacting my transition it does make this more challenging but it can be done.
In my case I had an orchiectomy. That gets rid of the testosterone and it does make a difference. There are few health issues that would contraindicate an orchie. Due to my heart issues I am on 1/3 the usual dose of estrogen but it is enough to make a difference also.
Additionally I have had 80 hours of electrolysis and done Juvederm injections to my face to soften it and fill out my lips. These are all relatively low cost options and can be done with almost any health issues.
Is changing our body important? Sure. But living as our authentic self is more important.
OK time to focus on BOOBS again before the big, bad original poster gets mad at me. ;D :D
Thanks for the smile. Boobs it is.
Gina
So back to boobs LOL I bought the pump thing. OMG the sound of it seems like such a scam. I did all the due diligence possible. Their claims are actually pretty reasonable. One cup size - actual growth other than swelling takes 4 to 6 weeks of 30 minutes a day and eventual result takes 6 to 9 months.
I have spent more than $90 on stupider stuff :D Like the $200 golf club driver in 1990 dollars - I never did make the tour.
I will keep you posted - Emma I will become a distributor here if this actually works. ;D
Noogleberry
ORDER # (deleted for my privacy - the little I have left LOL )
Thank you for your purchase!
Hi Kimberly, we're getting your order ready to be shipped. We will notify you when it has been sent.
Quote from: KimOct on March 08, 2019, 03:40:04 AM
So back to boobs LOL I bought the pump thing. OMG the sound of it seems like such a scam. I did all the due diligence possible. Their claims are actually pretty reasonable. One cup size - actual growth other than swelling takes 4 to 6 weeks of 30 minutes a day and eventual result takes 6 to 9 months.
I have spent more than $90 on stupider stuff :D Like the $200 golf club driver in 1990 dollars - I never did make the tour.
I will keep you posted - Emma I will become a distributor here if this actually works. ;D
Noogleberry
ORDER # (deleted for my privacy - the little I have left LOL )
Thank you for your purchase!
Hi Kimberly, we're getting your order ready to be shipped. We will notify you when it has been sent.
Now you did it! Have you ever thought about the continuous costs that thing will cause you? New bras, new tops because the old ones will not fit over your new super boobs anymore, and all that other jazz you need once you sport those bigger girls!
Quote from: Dietlind on March 08, 2019, 07:03:42 AM
Now you did it! Have you ever thought about the continuous costs that thing will cause you? New bras, new tops because the old ones will not fit over your new super boobs anymore, and all that other jazz you need once you sport those bigger girls!
:D ;D :o
Hmmm.. breasts
Before I was jealous and attracted at the same time (I am bi with mostly lesbian leanings). Then they grew and they HURT! Then you get cycles every month of extra hurt. Then they get to d cup and get in the way sometimes. Then you forget and run into a car door sometimes for that extra dose of pain. Then you try to run and realize that yes, sports bras do have a purpose! Then you go to go out to the washing line and realize that yes, you do need to put something on...
Still....
I LOVE THEM. I love having them, I love feeling them attached to me. I love looking down and seeing them. I love being able to fill out a dress / swim suit. I love my gf playing with them and hers are pretty darn good as well. I also love how... sensitive they can be when it comes to intimacy.
So I have to say one of the best things about transition for me was growing breasts...
I love my breasts!!! I agree with you that they feel so good and i don't have to envy someone else. And you are right that they hurt and mine do most of the time but i do get those times when they hurt like heck!!!! i just wish i could get my even now but i will probally have to have breast augmentation. my left side is bigger because of shoulder surgery form a car wreck. but i do have to say that progesterone has help some to. Well thats my 2 cents worth on that. Hugs all!!!
Quote from: SusanL on March 08, 2019, 07:32:16 PM
I love my breasts!!! I agree with you that they feel so good and i don't have to envy someone else. And you are right that they hurt and mine do most of the time but i do get those times when they hurt like heck!!!! i just wish i could get my even now but i will probally have to have breast augmentation. my left side is bigger because of shoulder surgery form a car wreck. but i do have to say that progesterone has help some to. Well thats my 2 cents worth on that. Hugs all!!!
I don't know for how long you girls are growing boobs, mine seem to grow for ever already (3 to 4 years), and the girls hurt for 3 to 4 years already! Mine are slow growers (seems to be normal puberty speed, because that is what i am going through). I am not real big yet, a good B cup left, and a wanna B cup on the right side. I hope that I get a little speedier growth now that I am sans balls and on estrogen. I will be happy with a nice C cup, I don't want D's, because everybody I know with D's complains about back ache!
Quote from: Dietlind on March 08, 2019, 09:27:13 PM
I don't know for how long you girls are growing boobs, mine seem to grow for ever already (3 to 4 years), and the girls hurt for 3 to 4 years already! Mine are slow growers (seems to be normal puberty speed, because that is what i am going through). I am not real big yet, a good B cup left, and a wanna B cup on the right side. I hope that I get a little speedier growth now that I am sans balls and on estrogen. I will be happy with a nice C cup, I don't want D's, because everybody I know with D's complains about back ache!
One year and four months on hrt and about 10 years with extremely low t. I don't find that they cause back ache but I'm six foot 2 so they just seem in proportion. Much bigger? Pass... bit fuller might be nice.
Quote from: krobinson103 on March 08, 2019, 10:11:45 PM
One year and four months on hrt and about 10 years with extremely low t. I don't find that they cause back ache but I'm six foot 2 so they just seem in proportion. Much bigger? Pass... bit fuller might be nice.
I would say size matters, i am "only" 6'!
QuoteWould you please be so kind and enlighten me (and probably some others here) which bra cup size a 555 cc augmentation reflects?
Hi, Cup size is a function of band. I am a 42 B or 40C. I take a large sports braw to be supportive during exercise and a xl to be comfy.
I like to wear xl thin sports bras and regular bras sit on the side. I have no issue with support and find them to be very comfortable. I was told by my doctor that I should go bra less a bit to help the implants naturally come down.
Rachel
I don't know if you ladies are aware of this, but the new trend seems to be smaller boobs!
I ran across these articles
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/death-of-the-boob-job-why-breast-implants-fell-out-of-fashion/'
https://www.theloop.ca/latest-trend-plastic-surgery-exactly-opposite-expect/
I don't know if this puts some girls at ease who have a less generous growth on their chest.
Quote from: Dietlind on March 09, 2019, 07:52:31 PM
I don't know if you ladies are aware of this, but the new trend seems to be smaller boobs!
I ran across these articles
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/death-of-the-boob-job-why-breast-implants-fell-out-of-fashion/'
https://www.theloop.ca/latest-trend-plastic-surgery-exactly-opposite-expect/
I don't know if this puts some girls at ease who have a less generous growth on their chest.
Oh, darn! So, if I had just waited, I could be out there sporting a very hip and sexy 34AA?
My timing is terrible... ::)
Quote from: Michelle_P on March 09, 2019, 10:31:10 PM
Oh, darn! So, if I had just waited, I could be out there sporting a very hip and sexy 34AA?
My timing is terrible... ::)
Yeah, and mine are still growing. I am a 40 B already! I hope, I will not get some DDD or similar size boobs. I would be so out of trend!
Quote from: Michelle_P on March 09, 2019, 10:31:10 PM
Oh, darn! So, if I had just waited, I could be out there sporting a very hip and sexy 34AA?
My timing is terrible... ::)
@Kendra and I visited with Ms. Venus DeMilo in Paris, and even I look good in comparison. Kendra, of course, wanted to do a direct side-by-side comparison that would have gotten us kicked out of a major art museum.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190310/20d070db792e8234f252b38134111964.jpg)
Stephanie
Quote from: Steph2.0 on March 10, 2019, 08:23:02 AM
@Kendra and I visited with Ms. Venus DeMilo in Paris, and even I look good in comparison. Kendra, of course, wanted to do a direct side-by-side comparison that would have gotten us kicked out of a major art museum.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190310/20d070db792e8234f252b38134111964.jpg)
Stephanie
Any excuse for that Kendra, right Steph?
Well, since smaller boobs are the thing, I think I'll rebrand my Double D's. They are now Triple X. (Touching wet finger to butt for a good sizzle.) lol
My push up bra was a bust. I still have more gap than I want plus the bra is highly visible under clothes. Next up, the dreaded underwire.
As far as implants dropping goes, at three months, I thought mine were too high, but thought most of my dropping had happened already. Now at 8 months, I know they dropped even more to a much more natural position. I hardly ever wear a bra and I think that has helped. Part of me wishes they had more movement, but if I did, I would probably have to wear a bra every day. (Implant droppings sounds messy doesn't it?)
Moni
Quote from: HappyMoni on March 10, 2019, 09:04:55 AM
(Implant droppings sounds messy doesn't it?)
"Excuse me lady but I think you dropped your titty on the floor back there"
I believe that people are realizing that putting things in our bodies that are not natural can cause serious issues.
Or it's like any other fashion trend where a few people say X is great! and everyone nods in agreement until they say X is ugly but Y is great! and everyone nods in agreement.
Quote from: Colleen_definitely on March 10, 2019, 09:46:22 AM
Or it's like any other fashion trend where a few people say X is great! and everyone nods in agreement until they say X is ugly but Y is great! and everyone nods in agreement.
It could be. I never thought about body modification as fashion. That sounds disturbing, but you could be right and probably are.
Implants are pretty safe or I wouldn't have done it. More chance I could die in a car crash. I think the fashion industry has to change things up to sell clothes. Follow the money.
Quote from: HappyMoni on March 10, 2019, 10:42:52 AM
Implants are pretty safe or I wouldn't have done it. More chance I could die in a car crash. I think the fashion industry has to change things up to sell clothes. Follow the money.
I think you are pretty right there! When we did set out in the design, we did, like every good researcher, do some self testing by injecting the silicone under our own skin! I am still pretty well and alive!
I will not really plan for implants, number one I still hope that my girls will grow like hell (only one more cup size needed for my satisfaction), and number two is my dislike of any selective surgery that is not needed because of health reasons.
I just don't like people to cut holes into my body.
Quote from: HappyMoni on March 10, 2019, 09:04:55 AM
My push up bra was a bust.
I saw what you did there. [emoji38]
For some, the small physical health risk is greatly outweighed by the mental health issues from being flat chested.
Nothing comes without risks. Even standing in place and doing nothing!
Quote from: Maid Marion on March 10, 2019, 12:50:27 PM
For some, the small physical health risk is greatly outweighed by the mental health issues from being flat chested.
Nothing comes without risks. Even standing in place and doing nothing!
Everybody has to decide that for themselves. I don't know how I would decide if I would have very little breast growth. But if my growth would stop at this point, I don't think I would do this surgery.
But I am B sized already, and a few chicken cutlets can bring me up to any desired size.
Quote from: Dietlind on March 09, 2019, 10:46:45 PM
Yeah, and mine are still growing. I am a 40 B already! I hope, I will not get some DDD or similar size boobs. I would be so out of trend!
I don't think any of us have to worry about getting DDD breasts.Although if chest shrinks from HRT (depending on how much fat and muscle you have in that region you might end up with a C cup.
Quote from: NatalieRene on March 10, 2019, 01:30:33 PM
I don't think any of us have to worry about getting DDD breasts.Although if chest shrinks from HRT (depending on how much fat and muscle you have in that region you might end up with a C cup.
You can get more. I got to D already and DD is not out of the picture given its been a year and a half. So nothing is impossible... though DDD is neither wanted or likely!
Quote from: NatalieRene on March 10, 2019, 01:30:33 PM
I don't think any of us have to worry about getting DDD breasts.Although if chest shrinks from HRT (depending on how much fat and muscle you have in that region you might end up with a C cup.
I am humble, I would be very fine with a nicely filled C cup!
So I had my bra sizing yesterday. They said I was a 36 DD, but I found the band too tight. That brings me to a 38 D. I ended up getting some push up bras. I now realize that breast enhancement with implants under the muscle make it very hard to get cleavage that is real close together. The advantage to under the muscle is not really needing a bra if I don't want. Also less chance of capsular contracture. Negative is the lack of motion, in this case getting cleavage with a push up bra. Still love em.
More to my original point, I went with a friend. We were both in the dressing room and saw each other's breasts. There was a time I would have had a different reaction to seeing hers. Now it really means nothing but trying on clothes with maybe a comparison of how mine look compared. I am no longer jealous of others, nor do I desire other women's boobs. What a difference a transition makes!
Moni
Happy for you Moni - it sounds like a fun and validating day. :)
My breast story kinda sucks. I have enough in the way of breasts to legitmately say I have breasts but that's about it.
Definitely different than my former man boobs but yeesch. ( Did I just make up a word?)
Not sure my path here. My estrogen was increased from 1/6 to 1/3 a few months ago so maybe I will get a little more growth. I ordered that stupid boob pump 10 days ago and from the shipping tracker it has been sitting at the Chicago postal facility for a week.
What the hell? Don't they know they are holding my boobs hostage? :D ;D >:(
Quote from: HappyMoni on March 17, 2019, 04:59:03 PM
More to my original point, I went with a friend. We were both in the dressing room and saw each other's breasts. There was a time I would have had a different reaction to seeing hers. Now it really means nothing but trying on clothes with maybe a comparison of how mine look compared. I am no longer jealous of others, nor do I desire other women's boobs. What a difference a transition makes!
Moni
Haha! I still desire other women's boobs .. I guess it's the gay identified thing :-).
My dressing with other women recently was during the vagina monologues dress rehearsal and performances, 4 nights of disrobing, doing makeup etc with some 40+ other women (all undergrads, with me being the exception as a staff member, 40 years their senior).
Yes they're all spectacular women, no I wasn't perving, just doing my own bit of changing into my outfit and being respectful that this is what we do because there's no real practical alternative.
Certainly we exposed more of our selves during rehearsals, bonding exercises and of course the performances, naked bodies were the least of it.
Glad you're happy with the girls Moni, isn't bra-fit an art?
I'm pre-everything, but got my small boobs mostly from weight lifting plus a little fat. No nipples of course. My band is 38 or 40, and with that, my cup size is like AAA lol. But if I was a 34, I'd have solid A's. It's enough that when I wear the right clingy tops they look reasonable. A friend of my wife's who knows about me glimpsed me in a t-shirt the other day and asked my wife if I was wearing a bra. I'm happy to hear that!
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So the Boob Pump thing showed up today. It took 12 days. What the hell? I feel like an idiot for even admitting that I bought it, but - I did. I am not delusional I am only hoping for a half cup of any real growth. Half cup for $90 what the heck?
So I put it together - embarrassingly. It should have been so simple - I am NOT mechanically inclined. I must be a girl.
LOL That was a joke - no letters please. :D
Anyway - I try it out. Damn, it really does pull on your boobs you can see it sucking them up through the cones.
And they were swollen and temporarily bigger. The owner manual said the swelling growth only lasts a couple hours - not even that. Real growth is supposed to start in 6 weeks. We'll see. I will be the guinea pig/moron. ::)
@ Kim
Do they make claims for nipple/areola growth?
There seems to be a point in natural breast growth, at which the nipples/areolas grow more than the breast. I seem to be at that point currently, and my areolas are now about 2 1/2" diameter, and the nipples are about 1/2" diameter. I wonder if hey stop growing now, because they are large enough for my taste!
I wonder now if the pump will give you similar results?
Couple of things...from talking to many other people about boobs, natal women and girls and gay men included, more people are attracted to breasts than some people may think! Not necessarily a sexual attraction, but more of a strong fascination with them (on other women).
I had high hopes that I might end up as a C cup as I always heard that I could expect about a cup size less than my closest female family member (mom). Sadly, I waited a few years too long and I would be more than happy with a B cup, today. I'm around an A, but due to my shape, I don't even fill that fully.
Nipples...I'm stuck in the middle of development and will most likely never advance from here. Puffy nipples. Areola and all. The one time I've gone in for a mammogram the technician asked me about my nipples and she was surprised when I told her that it due to my transness. Ugh. Wish I hadn't said anything now.
I did purchase nipple suction cups a long, long time ago, but was too embarrassed to use them, even around my husband who is fully supportive. My ex-girlfriend also bought them, but she actually used them. They did wonders for her! She was in the same position as I am but now is more than satisfied with her nips.
I should also mention that I found out after my mammogram that, while my boobs are small, they're very dense. Not as firm as my ex-girlfriend's, but the clinic wrote that I needed to be careful as their machines couldn't necessarily conclusively determine if there were any lumps due to the density of my breast tissue. Actually, mine are pretty soft and squishy and I'm surprised to hear that they're so dense that the clinic felt they needed to say something. Maybe my prior gynecomastia had something to do with it.
I've kind of read around this topic. I must say, yes, my perspective has changed. I can now look down and see them rather than having to look elsewhere. And, yes, I still like them on other people.
Strange thing, I must be an odd one (no comments!!). I've read around the forums and elsewhere of 'playing with your own' etc ... I don't do that. Is that weird? unnatural? I do scratch them when they itch (daily, hourly!!), that's it though. I do know that I like having them there. I'd guess that ~80% of my dysphoria eased when they sprouted.
Quote from: Faith on March 20, 2019, 01:11:57 PM
And, yes, I still like them on other people.
Strange thing, I must be an odd one (no comments!!). I've read around the forums and elsewhere of 'playing with your own' etc ... I don't do that. Is that weird? unnatural? I do scratch them when they itch (daily, hourly!!), that's it though. I do know that I like having them there.
I am pretty much like you, I like mine, and have an Ok size now (I still wish they will grow another cup size), but I don't "play" with them either. Sometimes, when laying in bed on one side, I have to push them into a little more comfortable position, but I would not call that playing.
To be true, my nipples hurt to much to invite any playing with them, I am pretty happy when I can leave them alone.
Quote from: Faith on March 20, 2019, 01:11:57 PM
I've kind of read around this topic. I must say, yes, my perspective has changed. I can now look down and see them rather than having to look elsewhere. And, yes, I still like them on other people.
Strange thing, I must be an odd one (no comments!!). I've read around the forums and elsewhere of 'playing with your own' etc ... I don't do that. Is that weird? unnatural? I do scratch them when they itch (daily, hourly!!), that's it though. I do know that I like having them there. I'd guess that ~80% of my dysphoria eased when they sprouted.
You're not alone. Mine aren't a source of arousal or any sort of non-affirming pleasure. I did try, but I didn't get much out of them. If I do anything other than scratch an itch or rub soreness (not often lately), it's for the pleasure of whomever my partner is.
I've had overly-sensitive nipples since my teenage years. Not pleasurable, either. They're so sensitive that touching them in any way other than just pressing toward my chest is annoying at best to almost painful at worst. My husband tried for years to desensitize them (against my will and I said so every time), but it hasn't helped.
Quote from: Tribble on March 20, 2019, 02:08:39 PM
You're not alone. Mine aren't a source of arousal or any sort of non-affirming pleasure. I did try, but I didn't get much out of them. If I do anything other than scratch an itch or rub soreness (not often lately), it's for the pleasure of whomever my partner is.
I've had overly-sensitive nipples since my teenage years. Not pleasurable, either. They're so sensitive that touching them in any way other than just pressing toward my chest is annoying at best to almost painful at worst. My husband tried for years to desensitize them (against my will and I said so every time), but it hasn't helped.
I'm sorry that yours go beyond 'feel good'. My wife is sensitive. She can do without or an extremely light touch and that's it. My knees don't tickle, they go straight to over intense and pain. I will smack you if you touch them. I'd assume that feeling is similar.
As for me, I enjoy nipple play time very much *gasp* ;D just not if I do it myself. No interest in self pleasure.
When my wife was pregnant, or sometimes at her period, she could only handle gentle licking and blowing on them. But she did like that :)
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Quote from: Dietlind on March 19, 2019, 10:00:40 PM
@ Kim
Do they make claims for nipple/areola growth?
There seems to be a point in natural breast growth, at which the nipples/areolas grow more than the breast. I seem to be at that point currently, and my areolas are now about 2 1/2" diameter, and the nipples are about 1/2" diameter. I wonder if hey stop growing now, because they are large enough for my taste!
I wonder now if the pump will give you similar results?
First - Sorry Moni for derailing your thread. :( Just say the word boobs to women and the topic takes off. Say it to transwomen - now you've done it. :D
Linde - The pump I bought doesn't say much about areolas ( spell check doesn't even know lol ) but the website had a different product to make them BIGGER which is not what you want. As for this pump it doesn't say much.
I don't know if it is OK to mention product names so feel free admins to delete if necessary and I won't do it again.
It is sold by a UK company called Noogleberry. It looks exactly like the pics online. The quality is fine and it does have a sucking (pardon pun) effect on your boobs. They look like a balloon being pumped up. The question is does it eventually have any lasting effect.
Quote from: KimOct on March 20, 2019, 08:45:46 PM
The quality is fine and it does have a sucking (pardon pun) effect on your boobs. They look like a balloon being pumped up. The question is does it eventually have any lasting effect.
Biologically it should work. Number one, it stretches the skin, number two, it increases blood flow to this area. Extra and increased blood flow means increased tissue growth because of the extra nutrition for this issue. So yes, it should work, but how fast and how much, I don't know. I bet it is different with each person.
Like natural growth, it might be different with each boob. I have almost a difference of an entire cup between my two girls. I know that both of them started out at the same time, and should have got the same nutrition, too. I have no idea why one of the looks like the grunt?
Kim, now sit back and watch! This is how a professional derails a thread! (Chest pumped up and all full ofproud of myself!)
Did you ever try to tickle yourself? Agh, it doesn't work, does it? I wonder if this has something similar going on to folks not getting pleasure from touching their own boobs. Part of my problem is the lower part not regaining sensitivity yet. I do like a very light touch on my boobs. Also,I get no kick from champagne! I do like seeing them in the mirror though. Mere alcohol, doesn't thrill me at all. Sorry, I keep 'busting' into song.
Now that is a derail, right? Or is it? (Cue the scary music.)
Just gotta say, I have tomorrow off and am headed to Keystone. Just a little silly. I get to wear my dresses and try out my push up bra! Whup whup! So much fun after a tough week. See you on the flip side, Lovelies!
Moni
LMAO !!!!! ;D :D ;D
You are effing hilarious !!!
Have fun. :)
Quote from: KimOct on March 21, 2019, 10:09:50 PM
LMAO !!!!! ;D :D ;D
You are effing hilarious !!!
Have fun. :)
Moni has a one-track mind with a detailed train of thought.
Quote from: HappyMoni on March 21, 2019, 09:08:29 PMI do like a very light touch on my boobs.
Oh, light-touch on my nipples. That drives me crazy in the
worst possible way! If I'm to be touched there, I prefer a more deliberate, solid touch. Funny, I
love light-touch on the rest of my body! Everywhere else that type of massage stimulates my senses beyond belief in a
great way. Well, almost everywhere else...
Have fun! :)
OK a very pedestrian comment coming - you've been warned.
It really is pleasant how much my nipple sensitivity has changed. I can get myself aroused just by touching them. So much more than before HRT.
Now if I can just get someone else to touch them. ;D
Quote from: KimOct on March 22, 2019, 08:29:03 PM
OK a very pedestrian comment coming - you've been warned.
It really is pleasant how much my nipple sensitivity has changed. I can get myself aroused just by touching them. So much more than before HRT.
Now if I can just get someone else to touch them. ;D
Wait until June, I will be up there for several weeks, and can do that service for you! >:-)
LOL !!! Thanks Linde I did actually laugh. Seriously though, if you are coming up we should PM and plan a little get together. I assume you are coming to visit people but even just a quick coffee or drink would be fun just to meet in person. Send me a PM when your plans are more definite.
For others that are reading - I obviously could have sent this to Linde only but I wanted to show that some people on forums such as this really do meet in real life.
I made friends from a different forum that I used to be on and we all did a weekend trip together. Many of us are still friends. Meeting other transwomen is fun. This place is great but getting to know people in person is even better.
I can tell from other threads there are other people here that have done the same. If you are one of the many lurkers or occasional posters - make friends - life can be more fun than just a computer screen. But this is good too !! :)
Quote from: KimOct on March 22, 2019, 10:26:54 PM
LOL !!! Thanks Linde I did actually laugh. Seriously though, if you are coming up we should PM and plan a little get together. I assume you are coming to visit people but even just a quick coffee or drink would be fun just to meet in person. Send me a PM when your plans are more definite.
The main reason that I come up is my sons wedding. But I will come with my motorhome, and plan to stay for a few weeks, actually a few months, until he heat in southern Florida is down a little.
We certainly find a time to have a cup of coffee or two, and maybe even a little stronger beverage of choice, who knows.
I currently try to decide where I can park my rig best for a longer time, to establish some kind of home there. I will pull my car behind, and wherever I am in the general Twin Cities area, I will be flexible to meet up with you!
I might even have my SRS at the U in MN, because that seems to be the only place that is in Network with my insurance for those kind of surgeries.
Anyway, i'll let you know when the travel planes are finalized.
Quote from: Dietlind on March 22, 2019, 11:18:25 PM
The main reason that I come up is my sons wedding. But I will come with my motorhome, and plan to stay for a few weeks, actually a few months, until he heat in southern Florida is down a little.
We certainly find a time to have a cup of coffee or two, and maybe even a little stronger beverage of choice, who knows.
I currently try to decide where I can park my rig best for a longer time, to establish some kind of home there. I will pull my car behind, and wherever I am in the general Twin Cities area, I will be flexible to meet up with you!
I might even have my SRS at the U in MN, because that seems to be the only place that is in Network with my insurance for those kind of surgeries.
Anyway, i'll let you know when the travel planes are finalized.
*perks up*
You have a motor home? What type do you have?
Quote from: NatalieRene on March 23, 2019, 12:39:34 AM
*perks up*
You have a motor home? What type do you have?
I have a 32' Class A on a Ford F53 chassis with the V10 gas engine. I have a Banks tuning on the engine, and it makes close to 400 HP. It is a Hurricane from Thor Industries.
This is just the right size for two people and a very big dog. I have the dog, and I am still hoping to meet the second person to have the right fit!
That is a large rv!
Quote from: Steph2.0 on March 21, 2019, 10:39:32 PM
Moni has a one-track mind with a detailed train of thought.
Hmmmm! I prefer to think of myself as warped, thank you. :o
Quote from: KimOct on March 19, 2019, 09:48:29 PM
So the Boob Pump thing showed up today. It took 12 days. What the hell? I feel like an idiot for even admitting that I bought it, but - I did. I am not delusional I am only hoping for a half cup of any real growth. Half cup for $90 what the heck?
So I put it together - embarrassingly. It should have been so simple - I am NOT mechanically inclined. I must be a girl.
LOL That was a joke - no letters please. :D
Anyway - I try it out. Damn, it really does pull on your boobs you can see it sucking them up through the cones.
And they were swollen and temporarily bigger. The owner manual said the swelling growth only lasts a couple hours - not even that. Real growth is supposed to start in 6 weeks. We'll see. I will be the guinea pig/moron. ::)
I've been thinking about this a
lot the last few days and am considering getting a pump but I'm dubious as to their lasting effects. I'm kind of eyeballing the Bosom Buddy.
I think it was another thread here that I stumbled on a trans-specific way to measure breasts and I followed their directions. So, I'm either a 38C or 40A. While I'd love to think I have C-cups, there's no way in hell I do. My ex did and there's no way I'm a third of her volume! I don't even feel like I fill a formed A-cup bra. So I guess I'm a 40A, which, of course, doesn't seem to exist. I've never gone in for a formal fitting and because of my size and shape, I was always buying 36A or 36-Nearly-A bras.
Help me, Bosom Buddy! You're my only hope!
I'm curious to hear of your experience with an enlargement pump, so please, keep us updated!
Quote from: HappyMoni on March 24, 2019, 02:38:23 PM
Hmmmm! I prefer to think of myself as warped, thank you. :o
Warp nine point five, Captain! She canna take any more!
Quote from: NatalieRene on March 24, 2019, 02:00:54 PM
That is a large rv!
Not really, there are rigs out there that are 45' long! But 32" is the longest allowed in national parks.
You have to understand that I need enough space to full time live in it for several months in a row. I used to do the snow bird ting in the winter, now I do it in the summer.
I had a parking pad with sewer, water and electricity at my house up north, and when the house was up for sale, I lived for 5 months in the RV, to have the house locking nice and clean.
Quote from: Tribble on March 24, 2019, 02:54:29 PM
I've been thinking about this a lot the last few days and am considering getting a pump but I'm dubious as to their lasting effects. I'm kind of eyeballing the Bosom Buddy.
I think it was another thread here that I stumbled on a trans-specific way to measure breasts and I followed their directions. So, I'm either a 38C or 40A. While I'd love to think I have C-cups, there's no way in hell I do. My ex did and there's no way I'm a third of her volume! I don't even feel like I fill a formed A-cup bra. So I guess I'm a 40A, which, of course, doesn't seem to exist. I've never gone in for a formal fitting and because of my size and shape, I was always buying 36A or 36-Nearly-A bras.
Help me, Bosom Buddy! You're my only hope!
I'm curious to hear of your experience with an enlargement pump, so please, keep us updated!
I found some 40 A's on Amazone. I graduated out of them now, and fill the 40 B's nicely. But they are of the soft cup style with a small insert to keep the nipples from poking through, and protect them, because they still hurt as if it is going out of style!
Thank you. I'll have a look.
Money is really tight right now and I won't be able to begin rebuilding my wardrobe for a couple of weeks.
It might be because I'm putting so much time and thought into it, but my dysphoria is driving me crazy right now.
Quote from: Dietlind on March 24, 2019, 05:16:13 PM
Not really, there are rigs out there that are 45' long! But 32" is the longest allowed in national parks.
You have to understand that I need enough space to full time live in it for several months in a row. I used to do the snow bird ting in the winter, now I do it in the summer.
I had a parking pad with sewer, water and electricity at my house up north, and when the house was up for sale, I lived for 5 months in the RV, to have the house locking nice and clean.
You misunderstand me. I was impressed not looking down. A 32' RV sounds awesome.
Quote from: NatalieRene on March 24, 2019, 08:03:51 PM
You misunderstand me. I was impressed not looking down. A 32' RV sounds awesome.
Thank you, I like to use it , and it is fun. What I appreciate the most is the independence from motels, the possibility o take my beast of a dog with me, and the possibility to park at locations I like.
As a family, we had a 28' travel trailer, and liked it a lot, and made nice memories.
Quote from: Steph2.0 on March 24, 2019, 03:28:40 PM
Warp nine point five, Captain! She canna take any more!
Captain's log, Stardate 3252019:
After Scotty had his hissy fit, I beamed down to planet Dysphoria 7. I found myself square in the middle of an ancient earth type village of houses with wheels. Some of them being of aluminum appearance, I knew there were probably hostiles about. My red shirted security detail (I might as well have been alone) put fazers on stun. We located what appeared to be the home of the leader. We knew this because the house was wearing the biggest bra I've seen since my days in the neutral zone. I knocked on the jaloused windows of the door and ...I called out, "Bones, is that you, Bones?" The door slowly opened and to my surprise, I saw ...
Quote from: HappyMoni on March 25, 2019, 04:58:32 PM
Captain's log, Stardate 3252019:
After Scotty had his hissy fit, I beamed down to planet Dysphoria 7. I found myself square in the middle of an ancient earth type village of houses with wheels. Some of them being of aluminum appearance, I knew there were probably hostiles about. My red shirted security detail (I might as well have been alone) put fazers on stun. We located what appeared to be the home of the leader. We knew this because the house was wearing the biggest bra I've seen since my days in the neutral zone. I knocked on the jaloused windows of the door and ...I called out, "Bones, is that you, Bones?" The door slowly opened and to my surprise, I saw ...
... the evil Doctor Clyde.
Stephanie
Quote from: Steph2.0 on March 25, 2019, 05:20:10 PM
... the evil Doctor Clyde.
Stephanie
Ha ha ha, I didn't see that one comin! That would be a nightmare!
Quote from: HappyMoni on March 25, 2019, 04:58:32 PM
Captain's log, Stardate 3252019:
After Scotty had his hissy fit, I beamed down to planet Dysphoria 7. I found myself square in the middle of an ancient earth type village of houses with wheels. Some of them being of aluminum appearance, I knew there were probably hostiles about. My red shirted security detail (I might as well have been alone) put fazers on stun. We located what appeared to be the home of the leader. We knew this because the house was wearing the biggest bra I've seen since my days in the neutral zone. I knocked on the jaloused windows of the door and ...I called out, "Bones, is that you, Bones?" The door slowly opened and to my surprise, I saw ...
There is not an emoji large enough to show how hard I was laughing !!
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Quote from: Tribble on March 24, 2019, 02:54:29 PM
I've been thinking about this a lot the last few days and am considering getting a pump but I'm dubious as to their lasting effects. I'm kind of eyeballing the Bosom Buddy.
I think it was another thread here that I stumbled on a trans-specific way to measure breasts and I followed their directions. So, I'm either a 38C or 40A. While I'd love to think I have C-cups, there's no way in hell I do. My ex did and there's no way I'm a third of her volume! I don't even feel like I fill a formed A-cup bra. So I guess I'm a 40A, which, of course, doesn't seem to exist. I've never gone in for a formal fitting and because of my size and shape, I was always buying 36A or 36-Nearly-A bras.
Help me, Bosom Buddy! You're my only hope!
I'm curious to hear of your experience with an enlargement pump, so please, keep us updated!
I thought it was help us Obi Wan Kanobe your're our only hope. ;D ;D
I will keep you updated on the progress of 'the boob sucker' :D
Also regarding ridiculous bra sizes I found a site that sells a 46A yes its true. I forgot the darn name though when I find it again I will write it down because I need replacements.
46A Geez I am a bruiser. >:(
Quote from: KimOct on March 26, 2019, 07:10:19 PM
I thought it was help us Obi Wan Kanobe your're our only hope. ;D ;D
:icon_lol:
Quote from: KimOct on March 26, 2019, 07:10:19 PMI will keep you updated on the progress of 'the boob sucker' :D
:icon_woowoo:
Quote from: KimOct on March 26, 2019, 07:10:19 PMAlso regarding ridiculous bra sizes I found a site that sells a 46A yes its true. I forgot the darn name though when I find it again I will write it down because I need replacements.
46A Geez I am a bruiser. >:(
Thanks. I did find some on Amazon as was mentioned above, but I'd love to hear the place you found. :)
The term boob sucker made me think of the Deuce Bigalow movie when he had the girl at the fish store get the sea snails at the bottom of the tank. Of course she then had to get her boobs wet to get them. Men, they are big on sea snails. Gotta love them!
Before BA, I found bras at Walmart that fit a bigger band/smaller cup. I hate shopping Walmart but I was desperate.
Steph, you gonna tell Kim who Clyde was? You brought it up.
Waiting to hear about Clyde but in the meantime I remembered the website for ridiculous bra sizes.
The site name is Belk.
I have important things to go and do right now..............
Watch reruns of The Office and fall asleep at 900 pm ;D
I forgot what going to work early in the morning is like. It's been several years. I need to win the lottery. :D
Some of Belk bra sizes Oh My seriously ??
46A (4)
46B (23)
46C (36)
46D (39)
46DD (48)
46DDD (14)
46F (27)
46G (19)
46H (19)
46I (13)
46J (4)
46K (1)
48A (3)
Quote from: HappyMoni on March 26, 2019, 07:51:02 PMSteph, you gonna tell Kim who Clyde was? You brought it up.
Ummm... uhhh... welll... lets just say that it's the jarred "Moni Preserves" after her "confirmation." I believe @laurie is the keeper of the jewels, for some reason I refuse to think about. There is pictorial evidence, but thank goodness I don't have it. I have seen the picture, though, and it's disturbing in a gloriously glittery kind of way.
Know what I mean? Eh? Eh? Nudge nudge wink wink, say no more!
HOLY CRAP!!!! Uh, no thanks.
My brother wanted my testicles and was going to put them in a jar on a shelf behind his desk. He is an attorney.
He said he wanted to put something on the jar that said - 'the last person that argued with me' ;D
I didn't have the stomach to ask to bring them home.
Moni you truly are crazy. :o :o
I knew I liked you. :)
OMG!
That's funny!
I was never offered mine. TBH, I doubt I'd have taken them if they were offered. They were gone and that's all that mattered!
Stupid hospital put men's recovery briefs on me, though. :icon_mad:
Quote from: KimOct on March 26, 2019, 08:37:46 PM
HOLY CRAP!!!! Uh, no thanks.
My brother wanted my testicles and was going to put them in a jar on a shelf behind his desk. He is an attorney.
He said he wanted to put something on the jar that said - 'the last person that argued with me' ;D
I didn't have the stomach to ask to bring them home.
Moni you truly are crazy. :o :o
I knew I liked you. :)
Well, to be fair, I think it's simply an artistic rendition of the actual "item." The glitter and the permanent "attention" kind of give it away.
Despite that, yes, she be truly crazy. That's why we love her so much.
Quote from: Tribble on March 26, 2019, 08:43:21 PM
OMG!
That's funny!
I was never offered mine. TBH, I doubt I'd have taken them if they were offered. They were gone and that's all that mattered!
Stupid hospital put men's recovery briefs on me, though. :icon_mad:
I could not keep mine either, bu they were to be cut up to check why those guys were hurting. I got nice female recovery briefs put on m, the type of one size fis all. Mine were big enough to keep my nipples nice and warm!
Quote from: Dietlind on March 26, 2019, 10:47:08 PM
I could not keep mine either, bu they were to be cut up to check why those guys were hurting. I got nice female recovery briefs put on m, the type of one size fis all. Mine were big enough to keep my nipples nice and warm!
Ah, big 'uns, as my ex used to call them. :D
I hope they didn't find anything that would affect the rest of you.
Quote from: Tribble on March 26, 2019, 11:14:01 PM
Ah, big 'uns, as my ex used to call them. :D
I hope they didn't find anything that would affect the rest of you.
No, they could not find anything, but could also not give me any definite reason why those guys were hurting.
Oh well, they are gone, and the hurt along with them!
Interesting, my perspective changed quite a bit during my transition process. I didn't dare admitting to myself and others that I like to have big breasts, because I thought it would invalidate my gender dysphoria. Like it would be some kind of fetish. But after three years on HRT, I still didn't have adult breasts.
So I went to the doctor. In The Netherlands, breast augmentation is only paid for by the medical insurance, if you have no inframammary fold and if your breast glands grew less than 1 cm. Mine were measured and I had both the inframammary fold and more than one cm of growth, so the insurance turned me down. But shortly after that, the dutch government came with a subsidy for breast augmentation for trans women and I just got a budget I can spend in a private clinic!
https://www.dus-i.nl/subsidies/borstprothesen-transvrouwen
I now have the freedom to take the breasts I like and I'm finding out that I actually do want large breasts. I just pretended I didn't because I thought my gatekeeper/ psychologist might reject me over it.
I love how this thread went from 'soup to nuts.' I mean 'boobs to nuts.' lol
The best part of this whole deal was watching Steph squirm and resort to a Monty Python reference to explain Clyde. EEEEEE dogie, that was fun. I feel I should 'splain' a little bit here lest you think I am 'nuts.' Shortly before my GCS, I acquired a cardboard penis from a friend at work. It was a joke because she used to go round whispering 'penis' everywhere. Of course my comeback was 'vagina.' My wonderful friend @Laurie came clear across the country to whop my butt in the hospital bed after my GCS. This is how she ended up with the 'remnants.' My friend Denni was the genius that came up with the name for my little dogie, Clyde. Now if you know the story of Bonnie and Clyde, you know it didn't end well. In the story of Moni and Clyde, it ended very well for Moni. Clyde? Not so much.
I commend Rutka for taking this thread more seriously than I just did in this post. :o ::)
Quote from: HappyMoni on March 27, 2019, 11:06:09 AM
I commend Rutka for taking this thread more seriously than I just did in this post. :o ::)
Well after all, Rutka is Dutch, and us Nederlanders are serious pople (I am half Dutch, my sweet mother was from there, and I grew up at the border, speaking some kind of Dutch as my first language - Limburgs). So we can't simply joke around if we are planning for big boobs! We have to get to it, who knows how long the special government moneys are available!
Rutka, hoe gaat het met je? Het gaat goed met mij? Boy is it hard to find the language buried deep inside me. It is almost 60 years ago that I used it the last time!
Knuffels
Linde
Quote from: Rutka71 on March 27, 2019, 06:59:50 AM
Interesting, my perspective changed quite a bit during my transition process. I didn't dare admitting to myself and others that I like to have big breasts, because I thought it would invalidate my gender dysphoria. Like it would be some kind of fetish. But after three years on HRT, I still didn't have adult breasts.
So I went to the doctor. In The Netherlands, breast augmentation is only paid for by the medical insurance, if you have no inframammary fold and if your breast glands grew less than 1 cm. Mine were measured and I had both the inframammary fold and more than one cm of growth, so the insurance turned me down. But shortly after that, the dutch government came with a subsidy for breast augmentation for trans women and I just got a budget I can spend in a private clinic!
https://www.dus-i.nl/subsidies/borstprothesen-transvrouwen
I now have the freedom to take the breasts I like and I'm finding out that I actually do want large breasts. I just pretended I didn't because I thought my gatekeeper/ psychologist might reject me over it.
So happy for you !!!
Yeah I had the same concern that if I admitted wanting large breasts it would sound like a fetish. The FFS doc I met with Zukowski wanted to give me 800cc implants :o I didn't want them THAT BIG !! He said because of my height and frame they would be right. Oh My. Looks like none at all - "boob sucker" you're my only hope :D
Quote from: HappyMoni on March 27, 2019, 11:06:09 AM
I love how this thread went from 'soup to nuts.' I mean 'boobs to nuts.' lol
The best part of this whole deal was watching Steph squirm and resort to a Monty Python reference to explain Clyde. EEEEEE dogie, that was fun. I feel I should 'splain' a little bit here lest you think I am 'nuts.' Shortly before my GCS, I acquired a cardboard penis from a friend at work. It was a joke because she used to go round whispering 'penis' everywhere. Of course my comeback was 'vagina.' My wonderful friend @Laurie came clear across the country to whop my butt in the hospital bed after my GCS. This is how she ended up with the 'remnants.' My friend Denni was the genius that came up with the name for my little dogie, Clyde. Now if you know the story of Bonnie and Clyde, you know it didn't end well. In the story of Moni and Clyde, it ended very well for Moni. Clyde? Not so much.
I commend Rutka for taking this thread more seriously than I just did in this post. :o ::)
L M A O !!!!!You are the funniest poster I have ever seen online. Boobs to nuts. ROFL !!!! :D
Yeah Bonnie didn't do so well either - or Blanche for that matter.
Quote from: Dietlind on March 27, 2019, 01:46:36 PM
Well after all, Rutka is Dutch, and us Nederlanders are serious pople (I am half Dutch, my sweet mother was from there, and I grew up at the border, speaking some kind of Dutch as my first language - Limburgs). So we can't simply joke around if we are planning for big boobs! We have to get to it, who knows how long the special government moneys are available!
Rutka, hoe gaat het met je? Het gaat goed met mij? Boy is it hard to find the language buried deep inside me. It is almost 60 years ago that I used it the last time!
Knuffels
Linde
Hey Linde!!! Ik lig een klein beetje in de kreukels, want ik had afgelopen donderdag mijn tweede gezichts operatie. (I'm a little under the weather, since I had my second FFS last Thursday). My jawline was shaved, chin shortened and cheekbones put a little more to the side.
Rutka,
I'm assuming since I didn't see the word 'Moni' that you didn't say, "Boy, this Moni is an idiot!" At least I hope not! :P Hope you heal up fast. Sounds pretty intense. Gazuntight! ;D Moni
:D
Rutka, Ik wens je een beter herstel! Ik hoop dat je snel beter wordt!
That was for sure quite some cutting around on you face!
I think if we do it right, we could try to make some fun about Moni! Cause as long as she does not see "Moni" in a text, she does not read on! >:-)
Quote from: HappyMoni on March 30, 2019, 02:29:47 PM
Rutka,
I'm assuming since I didn't see the word 'Moni' that you didn't say, "Boy, this Moni is an idiot!" At least I hope not! :P Hope you heal up fast. Sounds pretty intense. Gazuntight! ;D Moni
Thank you! I'm good, stuffed with Oxycodon and sleeping a lot. And no, I don't consider you to be an idiot.
Quote from: Dietlind on March 30, 2019, 03:41:21 PM
Rutka, Ik wens je een beter herstel! Ik hoop dat je snel beter wordt!
That was for sure quite some cutting around on you face!
I think if we do it right, we could try to make some fun about Moni! Cause as long as she does not see "Moni" in a text, she does not read on! >:-)
Dank! It looks like this right now:
(https://i.ibb.co/RjBWFnT/41-E5-E4-F5-ADCA-4-B63-912-F-C45-A250023-B9.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/h15z5nk/IMG-0643.jpg)
Quote from: Rutka71 on March 30, 2019, 03:56:40 PM
Dank! It looks like this right now:
(https://i.ibb.co/RjBWFnT/41-E5-E4-F5-ADCA-4-B63-912-F-C45-A250023-B9.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/h15z5nk/IMG-0643.jpg)
How in the world can you eat? Moving the lower yaw must hurt like crazy!
Quote from: Dietlind on March 30, 2019, 04:17:05 PM
How in the world can you eat? Moving the lower yaw must hurt like crazy!
I can't! Only fluid food, so I'm on a smoothie and soup diet and I'm drooling out most of it, because I have a temporary loss of feeling in my lower lip too. Which is a good thing, I do need to lose some weight.
You might want to put your boxing career on hold.
Quote from: Colleen_definitely on March 30, 2019, 05:02:44 PM
You might want to put your boxing career on hold.
the doctor broke my jaw :(
Quote from: Rutka71 on March 30, 2019, 05:31:44 PM
the doctor broke my jaw :(
You should have hit him back! so he would see how that feels! Next time you go, take a baseball bat with you, and warn him! ;D
(https://i.imgur.com/hQ4sqxv.jpg)
Y I K E S !! I would hate to see how Bonnie turned out :D
I usually come back and proof my post. When doing so on this one I glanced at the title again. Did someone say something about breasts at some point?? ;)
BTW someone at our trans group tonight mentioned that it is Transgender Visibility Day tomorrow. I am dealing poker Sunday so I think I got the visibility thing covered with the middle age white men group. :D
Quote from: Laurie on March 30, 2019, 10:05:20 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/hQ4sqxv.jpg)
OMG @Laurie, that just gives me a warm, creepy, nauseous feeling just looking at it.
Kim, the term boob can apply in many ways, beside a descriptor of the breast. Since I am the head boob in charge of originally posting this thread and a huge boob myself, I say post what you want especially if it involves humor. I see Linde going after Rutka with baseball bat comments, it brings joy to my heart. Rutka confessing to drooling her food, its all good. Besides, I have to prove to Rutka something Laurie and you already know, that I am, indeed, a good natured idiot and proud of it. Anyone want to post about breast perspective is raised up on the shoulders of the rest of us and can lead the charge to boobdom. We love the boobphoria. Let's face it, the only people who talk boobs twenty four/ seven are creepy old men in bars trying to buy young women drinks. (I wonder if there is a female version of this?)
Speaking of this, the older guy we bought carpet from recently, looked at me in a way I am not used to. He shoots a glance at my boob then shoots right up to my face. Guess I haven't had them long enough to be offended. After all, one does have to have priorities. lol Maybe if I had experienced this since being a young girl embibing in way too much hormone laden milk, I might have been offended. As it is, my silicone and I will take it as a compliment. ::)
PS When is the Transgender Invincibility Day? That's what I want.
Kim, maybe you should revisit breast forms. Yes, you tried them, but with a much different perspective.
As most CDs know, forms have their advantages. You can mix and match forms, bras, and clothes into combinations that work together. And choose them for the occasion, just like the rest of the outfit.
What do you want to achieve? Lots of older guys have boobs, so it isn't as reliable gender indicator as visible bra straps.
I've never found breasts attractive, which was always one thing that made me feel like I stuck out like a sore thumb compared to boys/men. Like, I mean, they aren't unattractive. But I have always been confused with men's obsession with breasts. I would be very happy to grow some of my own, but only because that's how I feel my body is supposed to be.
Quote from: Virelai on March 31, 2019, 01:41:03 PM
I've never found breasts attractive, which was always one thing that made me feel like I stuck out like a sore thumb compared to boys/men. Like, I mean, they aren't unattractive. But I have always been confused with men's obsession with breasts. I would be very happy to grow some of my own, but only because that's how I feel my body is supposed to be.
I seem to be your opposite, I was always extremely breast focused, and to be honest, I still like nice looking female breasts. And I love it that I'm now sporting my own! I just like the look of them, and look at them every day with joy!
I use my much moded breast forms when going "smart" or want to make a point (ha ha) , almost fill a B cup but they need to fill out at the top. I carved out the inside of the (sold as) B to C so they sit on and not crush.
My partner Deb and I are lucky enough to be in Paris touring some of the finest art museums in the world with works by most of the masters. One thing stands out strongly, it wasn't until the late seventeen or early eighteen hundreds that the world's best artists were able to reasonably portray a woman's breast (yes, there were a few exceptions, Reuben, early 1600s did a good job). For the most part, before that, breasts took on almost any form other than that of any naturally grown breast (no, Clyde has not made it to the Louvre as a breast shape yet). Then, in the early nineteen hundreds Abstract expressionism took any semblance of natural form and just tortured it beyond belief. Art itself seems to be changing it's perspective on breasts, so why not we?
Tia Anne
Quote from: davina61 on March 31, 2019, 02:46:38 PM
I use my much moded breast forms when going "smart" or want to make a point (ha ha) , almost fill a B cup but they need to fill out at the top. I carved out the inside of the (sold as) B to C so they sit on and not crush.
I wonder if progesterone would help you better than the silicone stuff. Have you ever tried the push-up version of chicken cutlets? I did use them for a while, they do a nice job, as long as you have enough natural breast that looks full once pushed to the top.
I used progesterone for several years and I'm lucky to fill an A-cup. Mileage varies as much as people do.
If your A cup is 32A, there are CIS girls that aren't as well endowed as you are.
VS doesn't sell 32AA, but their store for younger women, PINK, has an online selection of 32AA bras.
My first bra was a 32AA from Target.
Quote from: Maid Marion on March 31, 2019, 06:41:39 PM
If your A cup is 32A, there are CIS girls that aren't as well endowed as you are.
VS doesn't sell 32AA, but their store for younger women, PINK, has an online selection of 32AA bras.
My first bra was a 32AA from Target.
Funny thing with those bra measurements! If I, with my 40 B boobs would measure down to a 32, I would need DD cups :o. I don't think that I have anything looking close to DD's!
I think Clyde has to be the Susan's Place mascot. :D
Quote from: KimOct on March 31, 2019, 09:30:20 PM
I think Clyde has to be the Susan's Place mascot. :D
Ah...no!