Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0

[katiej]

Okay! So here is v.2.0 With Makeup! Unfortunately I coulnt change today as I was unable to find somewhere to change xD But I found a bathroom for tomorrow! In the meantime! Here are some pics with makeup! Please let me know if there's an improvement ( I also trimmed my eyebrows a bit).

Thanks! I personally still see a bit of the shadow....but I'm hoping i'm being scrutinous, and if so, should I be using a lighter or darker foundation to help hide it?

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u733mi3k1q9ceuw/AAAn7v7hLsA1SOzJK3SVCuOua

Night and day difference!  When you first posted the pictures I was a little worried for you.  But not anymore.  In fact, I'd love to hear how you're doing your beard cover.

[katiej]

Yes, These are definitely better and I like the skirt better. It makes you look more feminine. You have great hair!, or is that a wig? In either case you look better in the skirt IMHO.

Ali

Agreed.  A-line skirts give the impression of curves that we don't naturally have.  With the jeans maybe you could wear a loose-fitting cardigan to hide the lack of curves.

[Mickie]

I tried a no makeup pic. Im guessing im more on the femme guy area.

Also wanted to say, I love your hair

[Wynternight]

I forgot to ask! Which outfit did you girls like that worked with both the heels and flats? Jeans? Or skirt? Blazer? No Blazer?

I want that skirt!

[Brenda E]

Well ok so its taken like for ages to summon the courage to put my photo up for your collective approval or otherwise.
Any comments good or bad accepted.  PS bad hair day, chin red from electrolysis and no makeup.

If that's a bad day, on a good day I'm sure you look pretty darn amazing.  Cute, cheery face; love the hair.

Do you mind if I ask how long you've been on HRT?

[Windy]

If that's a bad day, on a good day I'm sure you look pretty darn amazing.  Cute, cheery face; love the hair.

Do you mind if I ask how long you've been on HRT?

Thank you for those lovely comments.
I am on spiro and just recently a low dose of cypro as well. Due to other health issues I am apparently unable to take oestrogen. /me sighs
I have been on spiro for just over 18 months and have been full time living and working for a whole 4 weeks
Admittedly the company I work for had a pro take the photo for my web bio on their web site, so I guess I got good lighting and stuff as well.  I will get a real world photo and post it for comparison when I get a moment of sanity  .
hugs.

[Brenda E]

I am on spiro and just recently a low dose of cypro as well. Due to other health issues I am apparently unable to take oestrogen.

Sorry to hear you can't take estrogen.    Even so, for just T-blockers, those are some impressive results.  You should be very proud.

[Gabrielle_22]

This was from my first time ever wearing a dress in public and also the first time I ventured out sleeveless in girl mode. I had gone to Kohl's earlier, found a long dress I liked that was on sale, and decided to take a risk and walk around somewhere to see if people would notice. I ended up going to Wal-Mart, in part because it was almost 11 at night and most other places were closed, and I was a bit terrified. But no one really gave me much of a look, and I felt so happy, since I had finally walked around in a dress, something I had wanted to ever since I was a child. I wasn't able to get a good photo of the dress itself, but it was a night that meant a lot for me. I keep setting little goals--try going to this place in girl mode; try wearing this piece of clothing, then that piece; go up to someone this time and speak to them; be slightly more feminine around my family so they might be less shocked when they find out, etc.--and they've helped me move forward. But getting the courage to speak to people is difficult for me, and I always get scared when I know someone has clocked me, since I'm usually out by myself somewhere. Baby steps.

[barbie]

But getting the courage to speak to people is difficult for me, and I always get scared when I know someone has clocked me, since I'm usually out by myself somewhere. Baby steps.

Gabby,

I also do not like the puzzled expressions of people when they hear my low voice, but anyway I speak to people when it is necessary. Their typical comment is "I thought you are a woman". Passing is actually not my business. My main target audience is my colleagues and friends.

Nothing serious happens when you are even clocked.

barbie~~

[Allyda]

This was from my first time ever wearing a dress in public and also the first time I ventured out sleeveless in girl mode. I had gone to Kohl's earlier, found a long dress I liked that was on sale, and decided to take a risk and walk around somewhere to see if people would notice. I ended up going to Wal-Mart, in part because it was almost 11 at night and most other places were closed, and I was a bit terrified. But no one really gave me much of a look, and I felt so happy, since I had finally walked around in a dress, something I had wanted to ever since I was a child. I wasn't able to get a good photo of the dress itself, but it was a night that meant a lot for me. I keep setting little goals--try going to this place in girl mode; try wearing this piece of clothing, then that piece; go up to someone this time and speak to them; be slightly more feminine around my family so they might be less shocked when they find out, etc.--and they've helped me move forward. But getting the courage to speak to people is difficult for me, and I always get scared when I know someone has clocked me, since I'm usually out by myself somewhere. Baby steps.

You look feminine to me Gabrielle in this photo. I like the pattern on that dress your wearing also.

Ali

[Handy]

Handy, I'll second what Alaia said.  Minimal FFS would help, but don't go crazy. 

Feminine eyebrows and hair style will help a ton.  High cheekbones, full lips, hair for days...yeah, You're in pretty good shape.

Just wanted to say you made my day! XD I really like "hair for days" gonna start using that lol

[trinityvause]

The pictures with makeup aren't edited, I couldn't find the originals of the non-makeup ones. All they're edited with are filters from different iPod Apps. My hair is natural/real, I haven't had any hormone replacement therapy.

With makeup:


Without makeup:

[Windy]

Sorry to hear you can't take estrogen.    Even so, for just T-blockers, those are some impressive results.  You should be very proud.

hi Brenda.  Here are some older photos taken perhaps 4 months ago while I was just mucking about with the web cam.  These are before going full time. My hair is a bit longer now as well.

       

[Gabrielle_22]

You look feminine to me Gabrielle in this photo. I like the pattern on that dress your wearing also.

Ali

Thank you, Ali! 

Gabby,

I also do not like the puzzled expressions of people when they hear my low voice, but anyway I speak to people when it is necessary. Their typical comment is "I thought you are a woman". Passing is actually not my business. My main target audience is my colleagues and friends.

Nothing serious happens when you are even clocked.

barbie~~

Hi Barbie, thanks for that. I have somewhat mixed views on passing; I often want to be able to, yet I am well-aware that I am trans*, have not as yet begun HRT, and am only a short way down my path, and so the best I can ultimately hope for is to simply be accepted as me. After all, if someone rejects me upon realising I am trans* but was willing to accept me before they had any inkling thereof, well, that's not anyone I want long relations with. And the few friends I've come out to fortunately accept me whether or not I pass.

My worry about being clocked is primarily to do with threats of violence. I am not yet able to present as female when I am back at home in the Caribbean, and the story of someone like Dwayne Jones in Jamaica is the kind of thing that resonates with and terrifies me. While I am in a somewhat liberal little patch of Florida when I am not at home, I still get concerned if I see someone eyeing me a lot or following me around a bit. I've been fortunate so far; my biggest problems have been with employees in stores following me around more than they did other customers, including into the women's dressing area.

I don't mind being clocked so much if nothing comes of it, though it can feel disheartening when you *thought* you looked all right before leaving home, then see people laughing at and coming out of their way to look at you (as happened the last time I went to the mall, where a few teenage boys made a point of following me almost halfway around the mall, walked in front me, and then kept grinning and looking back at me). It could have been worse, of course, but these incidents always come back to me when I think of going out in girl mode again. Still, I have generally been clocked less (as far as I can tell) as my confidence in going out has increased, and I just need to keep at it.

[Gabrielle_22]

The pictures with makeup aren't edited, I couldn't find the originals of the non-makeup ones. All they're edited with are filters from different iPod Apps. My hair is natural/real, I haven't had any hormone replacement therapy.

With makeup:


Without makeup:

You look like a pretty cis-girl to me! Your makeup looks good on you.  The only photo that looks a bit andro- to me is the black and white one.

Gabby

[Allyda]

The pictures with makeup aren't edited, I couldn't find the originals of the non-makeup ones. All they're edited with are filters from different iPod Apps. My hair is natural/real, I haven't had any hormone replacement therapy.

Without makeup:

Great hair, Great facial features, hrt will do wonders for you! You have a great canvas for hrt to do it's magic on!

Ali

[trinityvause]

Great hair, Great facial features, hrt will do wonders for you! You have a great canvas for hrt to do it's magic on!

Ali

You look like a pretty cis-girl to me! Your makeup looks good on you.  The only photo that looks a bit andro- to me is the black and white one.

Gabby

Thank you both, very much! 

[Windy]

This was from my first time ever wearing a dress in public and also the first time I ventured out sleeveless in girl mode. I had gone to Kohl's earlier, found a long dress I liked that was on sale, and decided to take a risk and walk around somewhere to see if people would notice. I ended up going to Wal-Mart, in part because it was almost 11 at night and most other places were closed, and I was a bit terrified. But no one really gave me much of a look, and I felt so happy, since I had finally walked around in a dress, something I had wanted to ever since I was a child. I wasn't able to get a good photo of the dress itself, but it was a night that meant a lot for me. I keep setting little goals--try going to this place in girl mode; try wearing this piece of clothing, then that piece; go up to someone this time and speak to them; be slightly more feminine around my family so they might be less shocked when they find out, etc.--and they've helped me move forward. But getting the courage to speak to people is difficult for me, and I always get scared when I know someone has clocked me, since I'm usually out by myself somewhere. Baby steps.

Well to my old eyes you sure don't look like male, your a pass for sure, and about to party! 

[Windy]

The pictures with makeup aren't edited, I couldn't find the originals of the non-makeup ones. All they're edited with are filters from different iPod Apps. My hair is natural/real, I haven't had any hormone replacement therapy.

With makeup:


Without makeup:

You are a pretty cis girl any which way I look at you.  You will develop a treat for sure    I love your eyes and hair.

[trinityvause]

You are a pretty cis girl any which way I look at you.  You will develop a treat for sure    I love your eyes and hair.

Thank you!