Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0

[SaiyaDarkfire]

Wow hun. You're gorgeous. The first pic is amazing you totaly pass in the pics. Have you worked on your voice much? Mannerisms?

that is the bit i am struggling with , i duno what Technics to use and what's best , also with mannerisms im not sure what i need changing the only girls i know are my mum she is verry tomboy and my girlfriend who is also tomboy soo i duno how to properly act how i should :/

[Summer]

Okay this is a first for me posting a pic so here goes . 4 months hrt I def have a long way to go but you know what I feel amazing.


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[Isabelle]

You look lovely summer have you tried wearing a dress with capped shoulders? They can be really flattering

Here's me... In cold day mode


Here's me in no makeup half asleep, worried about what I look like mode..


do I pass...?


And Saiya
"i duno how to properly act how i should :/"
Just be you, don't act like anything other than who you are.

[Summer]

no haven't tried yet next shopping adventure will see if I can find a cute one:)
You def pass even in waking up mode. Love the pink hair too xx


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[Brenda E]

A stunning sneer!

(You're posting in the wrong thread too. You clearly belong in "You Look Fabulous, Darling!" )

[Rotika]

And Saiya
"i duno how to properly act how i should :/"
Just be you, don't act like anything other than who you are.

When someone (personal experience) has gone the last 20 years (assuming they knew something was wrong at the age of 7-8) hiding a secret. How are they supposed to act loke themselves and pass? I went so long thinking I'd never do anything about the real me.. That I only know how to act like a man. It started out as a mask. But now it's me. I feel like i spent too much time undercover and got sucked in. Ive always hated the way i look in boymode.. When i look in the mirror now as a girl I actualy smile and love it. I cant believe i can be this girl. But I dont know how to act like her. I learned how to do my makeup.. Style my brows.. To look like I would want to if I had been doing this my whole life.
My point is that if you only know how to act like a guy.. I really doubt youre going to pass. Being a girl isnt something most of us just did natural.. We had to work on it a bit. We had to figure out if we were going to snap our fingers or talk with a hand on our hip.. Lol
Be yourself, yes, but also find yourself. Transition is change. So transition to the girl you know you are; however you can darlin.

[SaiyaDarkfire]

i know sertin ways to be more fem but as you said ive acted as a guy for soooooo long i duno how els to act so it will take me a wile to get out of that.

[JustASeq]

When someone (personal experience) has gone the last 20 years (assuming they knew something was wrong at the age of 7-8) hiding a secret. How are they supposed to act loke themselves and pass? I went so long thinking I'd never do anything about the real me.. That I only know how to act like a man. It started out as a mask. But now it's me. I feel like i spent too much time undercover and got sucked in. Ive always hated the way i look in boymode.. When i look in the mirror now as a girl I actualy smile and love it. I cant believe i can be this girl. But I dont know how to act like her. I learned how to do my makeup.. Style my brows.. To look like I would want to if I had been doing this my whole life.
My point is that if you only know how to act like a guy.. I really doubt youre going to pass. Being a girl isnt something most of us just did natural.. We had to work on it a bit. We had to figure out if we were going to snap our fingers or talk with a hand on our hip.. Lol
Be yourself, yes, but also find yourself. Transition is change. So transition to the girl you know you are; however you can darlin.

I don't think there is such thing as "acting like a woman/man". I dunno maybe it's just me fighting against gender norms that I feel are extremely oppressive towards myself and other women. Personally I have always seen myself as feminine, even though I was very unsure of my gender. I still do lots of things that people consider "boy things" ie: skateboarding, playing punk rock music, climbing trees and other stuff, and many other things. I however, think that it is stupid and ignorant to call them boy things. It's like when my therapist asked me if "I had to go into 'boy-mode' to solve or resolve problems (by asserting myself or finding a solution)." I told her "NO WAY! Women are way stronger than any man!" I don't think I was ever in "boy-mode" just male presenting and very insecure about it since I didn't feel I fit in with boys (even while doing the things they did). Never been more secure about myself since going full time, months before I could even start HRT, and it just gets better for me since starting HRT

I think no matter how you present as far as the way you act is irrelevant. You are a woman and know you are, so rock it girl! People will feel your confidence

[amber roskamp]

i know sertin ways to be more fem but as you said ive acted as a guy for soooooo long i duno how els to act so it will take me a wile to get out of that.

for me i kinda soul searched and figured out what movements/manner of speech i used to get called a (excuse my language) a ->-bleeped-<-, fairy, or a queer for. I stopped doing these things because i was getting bullied by both my friends and family even though they were my natural manner of doing things.

I would get picked on for how i walked because i bounced a lot so my brother would call me a fairy. i was very feminine with my hand motions and my friends would be like oh you must be gay(like that's even a diss wtf). I am very soft spoken and my manner of speech is very much like a very unemotional snarky girl (unfortunately its too deep for it to be recognized as female), so i remember my friends from my football team in high school were like trying to get me to talk like a guy. i really tried to fit in but it wasn't the most successful thing i have tried.

So i have the advantage that i know what is feminine and what isn't, but i have a hurdle to get over because me trying to be more masculine was kind of a wall that i built to protect me from being bullied. when ever i get over a hurdle i feel really good up about it until i get to the next one.

If you do not have that same level of repression watch women when your out and about. listen to how they talk, not just there voice but manner of speech and hand motions when they are talking. You can also just watch television and youtube videos and try to focus on female characters and their mannerisms. A lot of cultural norms are based of what is seen as normal in the media so if you want normal female mannerism watch womens mannerisms on television.

[Rotika]

I don't think there is such thing as "acting like a woman/man". I dunno maybe it's just me fighting against gender norms that I feel are extremely oppressive towards myself and other women. Personally I have always seen myself as feminine, even though I was very unsure of my gender. I still do lots of things that people consider "boy things" ie: skateboarding, playing punk rock music, climbing trees and other stuff, and many other things. I however, think that it is stupid and ignorant to call them boy things. It's like when my therapist asked me if "I had to go into 'boy-mode' to solve or resolve problems (by asserting myself or finding a solution)." I told her "NO WAY! Women are way stronger than any man!" I don't think I was ever in "boy-mode" just male presenting and very insecure about it since I didn't feel I fit in with boys (even while doing the things they did). Never been more secure about myself since going full time, months before I could even start HRT, and it just gets better for me since starting HRT

I think no matter how you present as far as the way you act is irrelevant. You are a woman and know you are, so rock it girl! People will feel your confidence

I'm a girl with a penis that grew up in a place where if I hadn't "acted" like a guy I wouldve been thrown out of my baptist home. And wouldve had no friends because what I had were religious nutcases. I'm christian.. Buy I'm not judgemental. When you say you dont believe there is auch a thing as acting.. You're basicaly saying my past never existed lol

[JustASeq]

I'm a girl with a penis that grew up in a place where if I hadn't "acted" like a guy I wouldve been thrown out of my baptist home. And wouldve had no friends because what I had were religious nutcases. I'm christian.. Buy I'm not judgemental. When you say you dont believe there is auch a thing as acting.. You're basicaly saying my past never existed lol

Rotika,
I'm sorry if I came off that way. Invalidation of anyone's identity definitely wasn't my intent and I feel bad that my words have hurt you. I totally feel you on having to act to fit inside a mold that just wasn't meant to be to "fit in" with how others are perceiving us, but we don't need to act anyway to appease anyone, especially once we go full time as the gender we identify with. I mainly mean that from my experience, I have always acted "boyish", but that I also feel like the whole concept of acting like a boy or girl is sexist. I am a strong, beautiful woman and nobody can tell me different. I just want other women to feel that way too

[Rotika]

Rotika,
I'm sorry if I came off that way. Invalidation of anyone's identity definitely wasn't my intent and I feel bad that my words have hurt you. I totally feel you on having to act to fit inside a mold that just wasn't meant to be to "fit in" with how others are perceiving us, but we don't need to act anyway to appease anyone, especially once we go full time as the gender we identify with. I mainly mean that from my experience, I have always acted "boyish", but that I also feel like the whole concept of acting like a boy or girl is sexist. I am a strong, beautiful woman and nobody can tell me different. I just want other women to feel that way too

It's ok, i'm glad you didnt take what i said as mean or hurtful.  You are obviously strong. Stronger than most I'd say. And stronger than i am at the moment. Once I figure out who i am i hope to be more like you
All of the sudden it's ok to decide what color nail polish i like.. So i dont know what to be confident about yet. Lol

[SaiyaDarkfire]

dont the hormones help with the voice part

[Rotika]

From the research I've done.. It doesn't. Hormones cant alter the strings in your voicebox. Idk though for sure since I'm not on hrt.

[JustASeq]

dont the hormones help with the voice part

Not from my experience. Lots of practice does though! Even pre HRT

[SaiyaDarkfire]

Not from my experience. Lots of practice does though! Even pre HRT

i watched a vid on somone that takes about her transision and stuff she said she never practiced and the hormones made most of the change to her voice

[barbie]

i watched a vid on somone that takes about her transision and stuff she said she never practiced and the hormones made most of the change to her voice

Yes. The doctor said to me that my voice can be feminized by HRT. I guess its degree of effect differs by person.

barbie~~

[Jessika]

i watched a vid on somone that takes about her transision and stuff she said she never practiced and the hormones made most of the change to her voice

http://www.slideshare.net/Maxisurgeon/hormone-replacement-therapy-for-transgenders-dos-and-donts-6073898 Go to Slide 26.

[Seras]

Even if it helps a little bit it is *you* that has to do most of the hard work when it comes to voice. Go head down to the voice section or check out ->-bleeped-<- where there is some super useful stuff.

[V M]

Hi friends 

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