I suppose it applies to me since I am taking T and want top surgery (though not bottom surgery). Still I hate the term. I think it's the word "sexual" in it. Also hate the word "transman" but not "transwoman". At first I thought it was the word "man" and I wasn't ready, but now  I think its' because trans and man rhyme.

Just rewrote the topic from "anyone hate else". Haha. I suffer from brain faster than my typing syndrome. Lest you think I am bragging about my brain power, let me assure you I am a horrible typer.

--Jay

<dodging left, dodging right> No need to apply any labels, especially ones you don't like,  especially to yourself. Hugs, Devlyn

I have never liked the term ether. It makes it seem like some fetish and hate that. In a lot of ways delegitimizes what we are going through. And makes people not take us seriously.

I don't particularly care for it. I prefer transgender, however inaccurate that seems to some. I don't feel 'transsexual' makes much sense in my case since I have not 'transed my sex'. Still have my factory installed equipment. I have not changed my sex.

Don't particularly like 'trans man' either. But the longer I live as a man, the less I care about being seen as the same as any cis man. I'm not the same. I was born different. And I don't care. Just wish there were a more palatable term than 'trans man' or 'trans guy'.

Can't say that I can generate "hate" for any word, but I respect that others often do. It could be my age, and my experience with the communit(ies) over time that leads me to be fairly attached to claiming transsexual for myself, in counterpoint to what was once something many would insist upon, that it only properly applied to "post-ops" which for me was an issue, as I started out feeling very questioning about why I should feel compelled to seek an operation, when what was going on for me was a matter of how I, myself, identified.

I could appreciate how social prejudice made living more wholly was complicated without conforming to the expectations to transition, and to do so according to a roadmap laid out by others, and containing no small amount of prejudice.  For me, I suppose I'm being a bit cantakerous or confrontational (or at least I was seen this way a few decades ago) when I was brave enough to express my concerns and reservations, at a time when so much of the struggle we were going through was just what ought to have been a simple thing, to have medical pros listen and accept that many of us needed the procedures and options that were then available, but often closely guarded by some pretty strangely conformist and controlling people.

Transfellow?
I'm no fan of transsexual either - partly for the faux sexualising of a gender issue in people's minds, partly because it sounds just as old-fashioned and medicalising and dismissive as homosexual now does, and partly because some trans people use it as an elitist stick to beat down other trans people with.
Feh.
As you say, transgender is in its own way just as much of a misnomer, since the whole point is that the gender is staying put, and everything else is transitioning to become congruent with it. I'm comfiest just sticking with trans these days, or just saying I'm currently going through a transition.

I suppose "trans" doesn't matter to me, but the "sexual" part is a misnomer as it infers that our issues are of a sexual nature rather than that of the realignment of our gender as we see fit to live.

Hmmmm yes, Padma pegged it best!

i don't mind "trans" but it doesn't feel that specific.  transgender is ok, but i don't like saying the word transexual to people in person, cause of the sexual part.   how about "original gender impared"? 

If I must be labled I prefer to use the term Transgendered over anyother.  But the word I detest the most is "->-bleeped-<-". I just hate reading, and hearing that term. I shudder just typing it.   

I prefer woman.  But I am diagnosed as having "Gender Incongruence", therefore I am a transsexual.  But I would rather think of being transgender, as I am transitioning my gender not my sexuality.

I like the term "Transgendered" more... It reflects our status, "across genders" a lot better.  I feel transsexual doesn't pertain to across sexes, but rather across sexual orientations; which is not what we are.  Ultimately though, I would rather be known as just a woman more than anything else, but you can only dream lol!

I don't hate anything. It's a strong word. I do think the term is misleading, though, seeing as to how it makes people think that we're attracted to Autobots. Badum tsh! 



Autobots, roll out!!!

Not the word 'transsexual' itself, but I hate it when it's used as a noun rather than an adjective.

But yeah, I generally prefer 'transgender'.

Transsexual only bothers me because it bothers so many other people. I like the distinction between transgender (anyone whose gender doesn't exactly match their birth sex) and transsexual (someone whose gender is exactly opposite their birth sex). I really like the much older definition of transsexual, deprecated here at Susan's, as someone who has taken steps to change their physical sex (e.g. by hormone or surgery).

In that context the "sexual" part of it makes sense, since it involves the actual changing of sex.

I like the terms transman and transwoman. Makes us seems like some superhero, which we sort of are, since it takes a lot of courage and effort to break away from the boxes we're in as the result of our births.

Quote from: DianaP on March 02, 2013, 02:15:16 PM
I don't hate anything. It's a strong word. I do think the term is misleading, though, seeing as to how it makes people think that we're attracted to Autobots. Badum tsh! 



Autobots, roll out!!!

Bumble Bee Here.

I don't dislike the term at all. What I hate are '->-bleeped-<-' and 'Ladyboy'. Eek.

Quote from: Padma on March 02, 2013, 01:33:02 PM
Transfellow?
I'm no fan of transsexual either - partly for the faux sexualising of a gender issue in people's minds, partly because it sounds just as old-fashioned and medicalising and dismissive as homosexual now does, and partly because some trans people use it as an elitist stick to beat down other trans people with.
Feh.

While I generally agree with your point in terms of common language, here's a perspective that I just happened to run across in the context of a much longer video that concerns a lot of issues related to human rights in general, that I think is relevant to those concerns that we have about these terms that do have more than passing relevance.

Not sure if the time tag is going to work in the embedded player below or not. The relevant statement is made beginning at around 39 minutes and 30 seconds into the video, so please skip ahead to that point if the video begins playback from the beginning.

Battlestar Galactica at the United Nations 

I actually cried during Edward James Olmos's speech which comes before that point, beginning at about the 34 minute mark. Well worth watching in its entirety for a fuller context.

transsexual, transgender, cis, trans, ->-bleeped-<-, I HATE THEM ALL  !!!

I am and always have been a female. My gender identity and my sexual orientation is between my ears not between my legs!

Kia Ora,

My 'personal' take on things :

Would I take offence if somebody were to call me transsexual ? No, I would simply state that it was a condition I suffered from in the past, and have since been 'cured' by drug [HRT] and surgical means...

To hate anything is a waste of ones precious time and energy, the 'hater' must carry this mental burden around and it tends to get heavier the more they come in contact with the object of their hatred...

Hating the term transsexual is not going to make it disappear, but by accepting it for what it is "Just A Word" will make it less of a burden...

Metta Zenda

Quote from: Elspeth on March 02, 2013, 02:57:20 PM

I actually cried during Edward James Olmos's speech which comes before that point, beginning at about the 34 minute mark. Well worth watching in its entirety for a fuller context.

So say we all