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Does anyone get told they're "not trans enough" ?

Started by BlackBird, May 13, 2013, 05:54:03 AM

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Proton

I haven't, but I'm very private about my gender on most circles. I suspect some of the people I know will jokingly go about the whole "but you're not that masculine" routine when I talk to them about pronouns and my chosen name, though.

I'm only anticipating a bit of general ignorance coated in good intentions, though.

dean1229

Yes, i have been told i wasn't trans-enough a few times, here on susans too. And this is not about the way i look, this is about my attitude. I guess it's cos i am not on T (yet), i haven't had any surgeries (yet) and i am not really sure if i want to do any of that. I am still thinking about it. This is not a game, it's a serious decision which will change my life forever! Yet, some people think that if i am a ''real'' FTM i must be on T, i must have surgeries, etc.

Yes, most of the time i look androgynous and i must say i like it. Yes, i want to be a man 24/7 but i like being androgynous too. Why? Because i HATE being a woman, i HATE looking like a woman, i HATE all that stuff. So being androgynous means i don't have to be a woman - the thing i hate the most in the world.

And yes, i can be a bit feminine at times. This is because i am gay. I like guys. And you know what gay guys are like. Well, i am more masculine than the majority of gay guys but i still have a feminine side to me. :)
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The unknown

I feel like I got introduced to this FTM transition too late in the game. I've always felt wrong or trapped in this body. I am 100% gay. I think and act like a male. I dress like a male. I hate my chest and all that comes with being a female. If I could go back in time and change myself I would. I have an amazing girlfriend of 6 years who I hope to someday soon make my wife. She is 100% lesbian and loves me for who I am. We've had discussions regarding the gender process but she absolutely hates the thought of changing who I am. I feel so trapped but as long as I have her that's all that matters. I been doing some research and have been exploring FTM prostetics but it seems as if I am searchin for the impossible. Is there anyone that can help me?
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dean1229

The unknown

Sorry, but i just don't get it... How come you are "100% gay" if you are FTM and you like girls?.. This makes you a straight guy but not a lesbian...
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The unknown

I just got introduced to the FTM process  I feel that it is too late to act on it even tho I feel trapped. I haven't proceeded with any FTM steps. There for to others I'm just a "dyke" in a lesbian relationship. Wish I could have the life I want.
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dean1229

The unknown

If you don't mind me asking, how old are you? I am 29 and sometimes i feel like i am too old for this process. But then i see 65 years old FTM guys and i feel that maybe it's not too late for me too. :)
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Devlyn

Lets be careful before asking new members to reveal their age.

Quote from: Not-so Fat Admin on July 10, 2009, 06:12:01 PM
Minors are discouraged from posting their ages on the public forums and any posts referencing the age of a minor user (under 18) will be edited out. This goes for personal profiles as well.
Please take this into consideration when asking someone's age.
Thank you.

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,62197.0.html

Thanks, hugs, Devlyn
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dean1229

Devlyn Marie

I highly doubt he is a minor cos he said he's had a girlfriend for 6 years. :)
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Dark.Knight

If your living unhappy become happy. No matter the age. I'm young now at 21. If I hadn't discovered the term for myself and that I can achieve what I want until 70 I'd still go for it.  I wish I could of discovered it before puberty was over as a kid and had the guts to speak rather than to hide it. Never too late to act though or too early. 
My profile pic is my hairy pre-t face. I want to be stealth, but my music career may kill that. ;D I like muscle cars, kicks, fashion, music, planes etc. The name I chose for myself is Khai. I'm 22. My ftm Tumblr is: http://gentlemenfck.tumblr.com/
If you want to really know me hit my Tumblr.
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Devlyn

Quote from: dean1229 on June 07, 2013, 02:42:50 PM
Devlyn Marie

I highly doubt he is a minor cos he said he's had a girlfriend for 6 years. :)

But you don't know it. The guidelines are there for a reason, please respect them. Hugs, Devlyn
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dean1229

Dark.Knight

That's what i think too - it's never too late or too early. I can remember myself being a 3-4 years old child and i kept on telling to my mother that i was actually a boy and not a girl. I used to drive her crazy! It was a very annoying thing for her cos every time when she called me a ''she'' or a ''girl'' i would say i was a ''he'' and a boy! This was impossible for me to pretend or play some sort of a game back then cos i was too young so it just proves the saying that ''you are never too young''.

And you are never too old too. Because many people are trying to hide who they really are because of things like their family, friends, job, etc. But in the end, it feels like they have never really lived their true lives. And they want to live their lives the way they always wanted to. This is a great decision to make! Everyone deserves to be the one they have always been on the inside! The real one.
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Dark.Knight

Quote from: dean1229 on June 07, 2013, 02:04:59 PM
The unknown

Sorry, but i just don't get it... How come you are "100% gay" if you are FTM and you like girls?.. This makes you a straight guy but not a lesbian...

some people tend to use this interchangeably for some reason (although its incorrect). Even when I thought I was a stud who liked women I'd say I was gay. Then I realized it was because I hated the word lesbian and I felt straight not dyke/butch/stud/lesbian or masculine wo-men... I was a man and gay fit better I guess you could say, it identified as male so I'd say gay. Now I know all along me feeling straight was because I am. I find men "attractive" not sexual though so I can't say I'm bi nor do I think the attraction could go that far. So to the guy who said it originally, your straight dude.
My profile pic is my hairy pre-t face. I want to be stealth, but my music career may kill that. ;D I like muscle cars, kicks, fashion, music, planes etc. The name I chose for myself is Khai. I'm 22. My ftm Tumblr is: http://gentlemenfck.tumblr.com/
If you want to really know me hit my Tumblr.
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dean1229

Devlyn Marie

Ok girl, i am sorry! I will respect the rules from now on. :)
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Dark.Knight

Quote from: dean1229 on June 07, 2013, 02:58:21 PM
Dark.Knight

That's what i think too - it's never too late or too early. I can remember myself being a 3-4 years old child and i kept on telling to my mother that i was actually a boy and not a girl. I used to drive her crazy! It was a very annoying thing for her cos every time when she called me a ''she'' or a ''girl'' i would say i was a ''he'' and a boy! This was impossible for me to pretend or play some sort of a game back then cos i was too young so it just proves the saying that ''you are never too young''.

And you are never too old too. Because many people are trying to hide who they really are because of things like their family, friends, job, etc. But in the end, it feels like they have never really lived their true lives. And they want to live their lives the way they always wanted to. This is a great decision to make! Everyone deserves to be the one they have always been on the inside! The real one.

Yes I 100% agree. I'm living untrue to my family and my friends back home but I am working on that now. Its worth it more to be myself than feel pieces of me die when I'm called she or my mom saying one day you"ll get my fashion taste and start carrying purses...no! It just becomes way more clear how bad I want this
My profile pic is my hairy pre-t face. I want to be stealth, but my music career may kill that. ;D I like muscle cars, kicks, fashion, music, planes etc. The name I chose for myself is Khai. I'm 22. My ftm Tumblr is: http://gentlemenfck.tumblr.com/
If you want to really know me hit my Tumblr.
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dean1229

Dark.Knight

Yes, that's what i was saying too. He is not a lesbian, he is a straight guy. I am not saying that being a lesbian is bad, i am just saying that we gotta use the right terminology here. Oh, i kind of wish i was a straight guy... But i am gay. And just to clarify, by saying i am gay i mean that i am into guys! I have never been attracted to girls. No way. That's why i can be a little bit one the feminine side sometimes and sometimes i can wear some make-up or clothes that are a little bit on the feminine side. That's cos i am gay. And gay guys are a bit feminine, everyone knows that. But still, i am FTM and i have always been one, ever since i can remember myself.
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dean1229

Dark.Knight

Purses??  :o ??? >:( This is disgusting!!! I have never had a purse and i don't wanna get one. Cos they are for girls and women and i am neither of those. I really hate it how our mothers think that we will finally grow up one day and become real women! Why can;t they understand that we have never been girls so we can't become women too??? i have never been a girl and my mother knows it. But she still has a small hope i will be a ''real woman'' one day! No thanks mum, i will rather be a real man!!!!!!!
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The unknown

Sorry for the delay in response. I'm 22 years old with a career that deals with the public daily. I just feel that it's too late in the game for me to transition unless I was to move or something. Probably would still have issues with family tho
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Devlyn

OK, Dean, you're off the hook now! Hugs, Devlyn
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Mac

I have no other Trans friends or people who know much about being Trans around me, but I do have one Genderqueer friend who went once through a phase of thinking she's FTM and she told me that my feminine side is too strong for me to be Trans.
The way I see it is: I have some feminine traits that are mixed with the masculine ones but that's just how I am and I still see myself and feel like a man, even when tears come down while watching emotional movies or when my kids are visiting and my maternal instincts kick in!
" I'd rather be hated for who I am,  than loved for who I am not "

CO to my wife- March 2013
CO to friends and family- June/July 2013
CO at work- October 2013
Started T- November 5 2013
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aleon515

Quote from: dean1229 on June 07, 2013, 02:29:39 PM
The unknown

If you don't mind me asking, how old are you? I am 29 and sometimes i feel like i am too old for this process. But then i see 65 years old FTM guys and i feel that maybe it's not too late for me too. :)


You're not too old. We have a group for trans guys over 40 on FB. I'm doing update videos. If you're interested message me. Also there is a collab channel (which I'm on) for guys over 30 called "It's a Man's World FTM 1". You're too young for it :)  but the videos still apply as I think most of the topics aren't age related.

I'm not revealing my age because Devlyn might get ticked with me. Wouldn't want that. :)



--Jay
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