Quote from: Anastasia E on July 25, 2014, 07:44:05 PM
Wow, thank you so much for the kind words everyone, way to go brightening my day

Not sure I quite believe you on all accounts (should have picked more moderate phrasing if you wanted to be believable? lol  ) but you sure did boost my confidence. I do see where you are coming from, sometimes, but from some angles I look distinctly masculine. Oh well.


Oh, and YinYanga and galaxy; you both look 100% cis, if you two have any doubts you really shouldn't have ^^ nothing says male about your appearance whatsoever, you are both gorgeous !

You're welcome

And trust me, when I dont do makeup, wear andro clothing and dont use my wig I would definately get male. I never go outside without my wig (passes more) or a hat (got called sir yesterday)
It was just 1 good photo sadly, despite what people say

Quote from: galaxy on July 24, 2014, 05:09:51 AM
Here's a picture of me. Hope its okay.

Galaxy, you know around here we have an expression that we are our own harshest critics. But looking at your picture, you have nothing to be critical about. If hormones didn't do very much to help you, that's only because you didn't need the help to begin with. I'm really glad you finally got the courage to post a picture, and I hope that now that you have some actual honest feedback, you'll finally be able learn to stop being so hard on yourself.

Quote from: galaxy on July 24, 2014, 05:09:51 AM
Here's a picture of me. Hope its okay.

galaxy, you are sooo hard on yourself! I don't know how much you've been on HRT, but you loook so greaaat! Your eyes are so pretty. I agree that you need to give yourself more credit.

Now what you need is to find some inner strength and positive attitude, that's what will attract people , friends and lovers to you you need to find a positive resource of energy, and you have no reason to hate on yourself. You're perfect just the way you are.

Thanks everyone for your comments.

Maybe i'm a little hard to me. I know that i'm passing as a woman. I feel it everyday. But on the other side a woman wants to be a bit pretty and attractive too. I talked a lot about this and its a important part to me and for me life as a woman. But in the last 2 years no one told that i'm pretty or attractive or something else that way. I dont want to ask for feedback from my family and friends because i think if there would be a reason for give some feedback they would do it. Its hard for me and so my feeling about my appearance is not good - no feedback means to me "dont say anything, its better ... and hopefully she wouldnt ask us ...".

I wrote a message to 2 of my best (male) friends and told them something about my problems and that i feel very ugly. They didnt answer. They read the message only and said nothing. I mean, thats the best avidence for my assumption: Everybody knows that i'm not pretty and its better to say nothing and let this issue outside when we talk to each other. They wont hurt me. 

Maybe i'm able to correct my assumption over the next long period.

Hugs Galaxy

Quote from: galaxy on July 26, 2014, 02:16:41 PM
Thanks everyone for your comments.

Maybe i'm a little hard to me. I know that i'm passing as a woman. I feel it everyday. But on the other side a woman wants to be a bit pretty and attractive too. I talked a lot about this and its a important part to me and for me life as a woman. But in the last 2 years no one told that i'm pretty or attractive or something else that way. I dont want to ask for feedback from my family and friends because i think if there would be a reason for give some feedback they would do it. Its hard for me and so my feeling about my appearance is not good - no feedback means to me "dont say anything, its better ... and hopefully she wouldnt ask us ...".

I wrote a message to 2 of my best (male) friends and told them something about my problems and that i feel very ugly. They didnt answer. They read the message only and said nothing. I mean, thats the best avidence for my assumption: Everybody knows that i'm not pretty and its better to say nothing and let this issue outside when we talk to each other. They wont hurt me. 

Maybe i'm able to correct my assumption over the next long period.

Hugs Galaxy

Galaxy,
       You are very pretty honey, I don't know what part of the world you live in but my take on what has happened to you is that you are dealing with a bunch of thoughtless zombies. Everyone here thinks that you are really quite pretty, so go with us on this and pay attention to what we are telling you, I'm not one to blow a lot of smoke up a woman's skirt and pay her lying complements just to make her feel good. So trust me on this sweetheart!

Thanks so much 

Quote from: Shantel on July 26, 2014, 02:47:52 PM
Galaxy,
       You are very pretty honey, I don't know what part of the world you live in but my take on what has happened to you is that you are dealing with a bunch of thoughtless zombies. Everyone here thinks that you are really quite pretty, so go with us on this and pay attention to what we are telling you, I'm not one to blow a lot of smoke up a woman's skirt and pay her lying complements just to make her feel good. So trust me on this sweetheart!

ditto

Quote from: galaxy on July 26, 2014, 02:16:41 PM
I wrote a message to 2 of my best (male) friends and told them something about my problems and that i feel very ugly. They didnt answer. They read the message only and said nothing. I mean, thats the best avidence for my assumption: Everybody knows that i'm not pretty and its better to say nothing and let this issue outside when we talk to each other. They wont hurt me. 

Maybe i'm able to correct my assumption over the next long period.

There's an old saying..."no news is good news."  People tend to criticize what they don't like, but they don't give compliments nearly as often.  They complain when something goes wrong at a restaurant, but they're not quick with compliments when the meal is good.  Newspapers are full of bad news.  99% of a business' customers are satisfied, but they only ever hear from the few who are unhappy.  The point is that if you're not hearing anything from anyone about it...you can safely assume that all is going well.

So with your guys friends...who probably aren't very good at talking about things like this anyways (especially if they knew you before)...no news is good news. 

Are you going to keep growing your hair out and braiding it, River? It looks great now but with more length, your slender build, and facial features, I think you're going to look gorgeous! I'm a sucker for pretty braids or dreads.

Quote from: riversong on July 26, 2014, 04:39:07 PM
Some I took on my phone,







And some I took on my webcam...





(my hair is craaaazy)





I feel like I pass less in my last pic, but I figure that must be my imagination since I haven't really done anything different between when I took that one and when I took the others...

Quote from: galaxy on July 26, 2014, 02:16:41 PM
I wrote a message to 2 of my best (male) friends and told them something about my problems and that i feel very ugly. They didnt answer. They read the message only and said nothing. I mean, thats the best avidence for my assumption: Everybody knows that i'm not pretty and its better to say nothing and let this issue outside when we talk to each other. They wont hurt me. 

Maybe i'm able to correct my assumption over the next long period.

Hugs Galaxy

Galaxy hun I hate to say it, but these two male friends of yours are insensitive to say the least -and that's putting it nicely for I want to say much harsher words. As others and I myself have told you, your very pretty and I'm sorry, but anyone who doesn't see that is just insensitive, and needs an Optometrist(eye doctor)!

Allie

Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on July 27, 2014, 03:08:16 PM
Heya! I am in desperate need of advice and some critical opinions - but please, indeed, be critical instead of being re-assuring - both do and will help, but sometimes bitter truth is better than sweet lies .
So, during last couple of days I get gendered female no matter what I wear (being in my typical andro/boy mode), and even after having forced to be in conversations with complete strangers (my voice stays as one of bigger concerns, but somehow apparently it goes along...).
I am not full-time, and this is what I wear daily when I dont expect to interact with people.

When I know I will have to talk (voice issues again..), I wear something more baggy as top to flatten me down (You probably get the idea...) - but apparently it does not matter anymore. So far, apart of voice, my face is the biggest concern, mostly because of brow - knowing this alone can freeze me and make me turn around instead of going into public areas. Upper bulk has impeding effect too, but I am quite happy about general shape though... Frankly speaking, now it is very much 50/50 when I look in the mirror - but somehow I stil think that I look more like a young boy than girl. And here is why - this is my late night safe jogging outfit - I thought I would be safe to jog around before midnight because I am dressed as dude, but I do notice that random guys tend to follow me with their stares. But I only see very young boy there!

Emily my voice is absolutely atrocious and was worse 5 years ago when I had my total male fail, and I had a nose that would spite my face to boot. In my experience I have noticed as long as the rest of the package is all female the voice and some masculine traits will be overlooked. It happens to me every day.

In complete honesty, in the top two photo's I gender you female. Again it boils down to the complete package and your body's shape and facial features read thin but feminine.
     Now in the bottom photo, you look more Andro but I only say this because of those baggy overly long men's shorts your wearing. Put on a more appropriate pair of shorts that show off more of your shape and I'd gender you female all day.

Hope it helps some.

Allie

Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on July 27, 2014, 03:08:16 PM
Heya! I am in desperate need of advice and some critical opinions - but please, indeed, be critical instead of being re-assuring - both do and will help, but sometimes bitter truth is better than sweet lies .

You read androgynous leaning female to me in most of these pictures. I also barely even notice the brow ridge--I'm only noticing it now that you've pointed it out, but if you hadn't I don't think I would have noticed. The only thing is your build looks a little masculine, but it's not super masculine--it looks closer to that of an athletic girl (lots of guys find that attractive, which may explain the stares).

Quote from: Wynternight on July 27, 2014, 03:46:14 AM
Are you going to keep growing your hair out and braiding it, River? It looks great now but with more length, your slender build, and facial features, I think you're going to look gorgeous! I'm a sucker for pretty braids or dreads.

Thank you! I'm still not sure what I'm going to do with my hair at this point. At the moment I'm more leaning towards getting it straightened and wearing it down once it gets long enough, but who knows I might also get a bang, because my forehead looks huge due to how far back my hairline is. That might get fixed once I start hormones though, so it may not even be necessary

Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on July 27, 2014, 03:08:16 PM
Heya! I am in desperate need of advice and some critical opinions - but please, indeed, be critical instead of being re-assuring - both do and will help, but sometimes bitter truth is better than sweet lies .
So, during last couple of days I get gendered female no matter what I wear (being in my typical andro/boy mode), and even after having forced to be in conversations with complete strangers (my voice stays as one of bigger concerns, but somehow apparently it goes along...).
I am not full-time, and this is what I wear daily when I dont expect to interact with people.

When I know I will have to talk (voice issues again..), I wear something more baggy as top to flatten me down (You probably get the idea...) - but apparently it does not matter anymore. So far, apart of voice, my face is the biggest concern, mostly because of brow - knowing this alone can freeze me and make me turn around instead of going into public areas. Upper bulk has impeding effect too, but I am quite happy about general shape though... Frankly speaking, now it is very much 50/50 when I look in the mirror - but somehow I stil think that I look more like a young boy than girl. And here is why - this is my late night safe jogging outfit - I thought I would be safe to jog around before midnight because I am dressed as dude, but I do notice that random guys tend to follow me with their stares. But I only see very young boy there!

Emily your first two photos I would say you are female.
With your night jogging outfit if I saw you in Australia I would probably say early 20's male who runs not competitively but every fun run they can. BUT please remember I'm going on what I see in my society and by my countries standards. With a slight change in running attire you could easily be seen as female.

Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on July 27, 2014, 03:52:44 PM
I am a bit hesitant about female shorts for running, because they are very form-fitting as a rule and I dont tuck (being a daily bike commuter, this would not be pleasant experience). Plus, I would not dare to jog around midnight in shorts showing off my legs - so at least for now i could consider being safe on streets .

Sorry, please forgive me. Because of my malformed nether region I never had to tuck to have a flat crotch, I just do. So sometimes when suggesting apparel I forget most transwomen do have this inconvenience until after surgery. The only other thing I could suggest would be a pair of sweats maybe in a feminine style/colors while jogging?

If your job permits might I suggest longer hair in a more feminine style. I saw one Avatar photo of you a while back where you had slightly longer hair and you looked very nice. I think I complimented you on it. Just my $02.

Allie

Hi Emily,

You've come a long way in your presentation
Looking at those photos, either andro or athletic female - there is still that fraction of upper body bulk but it's dropping down nicely.
You're going to have to start being more careful on your night runs.

Stay safe and fit!
Luna

Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on July 27, 2014, 03:08:16 PM
Heya! I am in desperate need of advice and some critical opinions - but please, indeed, be critical instead of being re-assuring - both do and will help, but sometimes bitter truth is better than sweet lies .
So, during last couple of days I get gendered female no matter what I wear (being in my typical andro/boy mode), and even after having forced to be in conversations with complete strangers (my voice stays as one of bigger concerns, but somehow apparently it goes along...).
I am not full-time, and this is what I wear daily when I dont expect to interact with people.

When I know I will have to talk (voice issues again..), I wear something more baggy as top to flatten me down (You probably get the idea...) - but apparently it does not matter anymore. So far, apart of voice, my face is the biggest concern, mostly because of brow - knowing this alone can freeze me and make me turn around instead of going into public areas. Upper bulk has impeding effect too, but I am quite happy about general shape though... Frankly speaking, now it is very much 50/50 when I look in the mirror - but somehow I stil think that I look more like a young boy than girl. And here is why - this is my late night safe jogging outfit - I thought I would be safe to jog around before midnight because I am dressed as dude, but I do notice that random guys tend to follow me with their stares. But I only see very young boy there!

As appearance goes you look female and I'll only gender you as such, but for the clothes I think you deserve better and they scream "I'm a mother and I don't care what I look like", so yeah I would go for lighter colors and different shoes (not herls just something more feminine)

Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on July 28, 2014, 05:10:45 AM
Thank You luna and Emily29 (nice name, by the way and very fitting to that cute young lady in You avi ). Luna, I was following the rationale that if I have that bulk and wear very guy-ish stuff, then it should be safe. Maybe not - but hopefully nobody will want to mess with 5'9" athletic female who does not really match the typical victim profile...

Need to loose some more of that bulk, I suppose .

You just don't know... It's dangerous business, Frodo, going out your door.
Personally, I'm hesitant these days, even though I still present fine as male - just from the fact that I know that the strength isn't there anymore.  (Failed @ doing a chinup... And I'm still bulky... Yay me...)

In any case, keeping the exercise up and letting the hormones do their thing is about all you can do.

Ok, I think my post ended up at the bottom of the page so it didn't really get noticed. Hate to seem like I'm spamming, but I'm thinking of going full time soon and could use some advice

Some I took on my phone,







And some I took on my webcam...









I feel like I pass less in my last pic, but I figure that must be my imagination since I haven't really done anything different between when I took that one and when I took the others...

These are from 6 months ago.