Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on August 15, 2014, 12:42:43 PM
I always get scared when I know someone has clocked me, since I'm usually out by myself somewhere. Baby steps.

Don't worry about it, you're the kind of women who when she enters a room the whole room lights up and everyone looks, it's a blessing and you're not getting clocked just admired. I'll bet that you have a very vivacious, outgoing personality too.

Honestly gabby I think you are looking pretty good. I don't think you have much to worry about. It can be a bit scary to be yourself in public at first but once you become comfortable and you can relax it is just a wonderful feeling.

Quote from: Allyda on August 14, 2014, 02:28:04 PM
Yes, These are definitely better and I like the skirt better. It makes you look more feminine. You have great hair!, or is that a wig? In either case you look better in the skirt IMHO.

Ali

Thanks! Yes it's a wig! Spend a lot of time looking for a synthetic one that suited me that wasn't horrendously expensive but looked real enough,  thank you! Yes i prefer the skirt too,  but when its cold or I need to dress slightly more  Conservative,  I'd like to know I can pull off the jeans.  I'm also wearing Control underwear in both images to help with the waist.

Quote from: katiej on August 14, 2014, 06:48:21 PM
Night and day difference!  When you first posted the pictures I was a little worried for you.  But not anymore.  In fact, I'd love to hear how you're doing your beard cover.

Thanks! I'd like to know what worried you specifically btw   since id like to try and improve those.

As for the beard cover,  a really close shave followed by moisturizer, bb cream and then foundation stick to contour,  using my hands and brushes.  I combined a skin tones foundation with a darker one,  so I made the hollows of my cheeck darker to make my face seem thinner and my beard area appear lighter.  Glad to know it workes.  Next free weekend I have I'm going to try Kim Kardashian makeup look! I'll post some pics so you guys can see how it looks

Quote from: katiej on August 14, 2014, 06:50:42 PM
Agreed.  A-line skirts give the impression of curves that we don't naturally have.  With the jeans maybe you could wear a loose-fitting cardigan to hide the lack of curves.

Thanks! As I said earlier,  prefer the skirt but need to find kean options too.  I'll try the cardigan idea if i can find one,  but on a scale  of one to 10 could you rate the jeans look with and without Blazer? I'd like to know which looks are great,  and which are ok but I still pass with   (I have a style notebook where I document all this xd.  I'm meticulous like that)

Quote from: Wynternight on August 14, 2014, 08:05:27 PM
I want that skirt!

H &  m! :d

Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on August 15, 2014, 05:53:41 PM
My worry about being clocked is primarily to do with threats of violence. I am not yet able to present as female when I am back at home in the Caribbean, and the story of someone like Dwayne Jones in Jamaica is the kind of thing that resonates with and terrifies me. While I am in a somewhat liberal little patch of Florida when I am not at home, I still get concerned if I see someone eyeing me a lot or following me around a bit. I've been fortunate so far; my biggest problems have been with employees in stores following me around more than they did other customers, including into the women's dressing area.

Gabby,

Yes. Definitely threats of violence do matter. Once I alone ran for exercise along the streets in a downtown Russian city, and a group of men shouted at me, making me think that this is not a safe place. Also, I was once assaulted by a man for rape in the U.S., and I thought that I would be killed once he recognized my sex. He just ran away.

Fortunately, here no such threat. Moreover, I usually go out with my friends.

Several years ago, I was once clocked by a young sales woman in a beauty shop, and she recklessly shouted like "I thought you are a woman, but you are actually a man!". I was a little bit upset, but this sometimes happens. The the bottom line is that my gender identity has no business with them. Even in this case, nowadays I just smile at them, exchanging some jokes.

My close women praise my fashion and beauty. Some of them say they would not dare to walk with me while wearing mini-skirt. Men say that my fashion sense is far better than most women here, urging other women to take care of their appearance more. All of them know my family and background very well.

Depending on the culture, you may choose the best option for your passing. Passing more requires more restriction in the freedom of your daily life and socialization. I prefer freedom.

barbie~~

Quote from: trinityvause on August 15, 2014, 04:52:54 PM

With makeup:

Damn girl you gorgeous <3

Playing with make up 

Quote from: Emily29 on August 16, 2014, 09:13:20 PM
Playing with make up 

cute

Quote from: barbie on August 16, 2014, 03:12:04 PM
Gabby,

Yes. Definitely threats of violence do matter. Once I alone ran for exercise along the streets in a downtown Russian city, and a group of men shouted at me, making me think that this is not a safe place. Also, I was once assaulted by a man for rape in the U.S., and I thought that I would be killed once he recognized my sex. He just ran away.

Fortunately, here no such threat. Moreover, I usually go out with my friends.

Several years ago, I was once clocked by a young sales woman in a beauty shop, and she recklessly shouted like "I thought you are a woman, but you are actually a man!". I was a little bit upset, but this sometimes happens. The the bottom line is that my gender identity has no business with them. Even in this case, nowadays I just smile at them, exchanging some jokes.

My close women praise my fashion and beauty. Some of them say they would not dare to walk with me while wearing mini-skirt. Men say that my fashion sense is far better than most women here, urging other women to take care of their appearance more. All of them know my family and background very well.

Depending on the culture, you may choose the best option for your passing. Passing more requires more restriction in the freedom of your daily life and socialization. I prefer freedom.

barbie~~

I'm so sorry to hear about what has happened to you in the past! And I'm glad you are in a safer place.  I agree with you that what I want above anything else is freedom to be me. I would rather be accepted if clocked than the opposite.

Quote from: Hikari on August 16, 2014, 01:33:15 AM
Honestly gabby I think you are looking pretty good. I don't think you have much to worry about. It can be a bit scary to be yourself in public at first but once you become comfortable and you can relax it is just a wonderful feeling.

Thank you! That means a lot coming from you, honestly.

Quote from: Shantel on August 15, 2014, 09:28:29 PM
Don't worry about it, you're the kind of women who when she enters a room the whole room lights up and everyone looks, it's a blessing and you're not getting clocked just admired. I'll bet that you have a very vivacious, outgoing personality too.

Thank you! Now I'm blushing. I am anything but vivacious, however. I usually have to be pried out of my shell by experts.

Quote from: Emily29 on August 16, 2014, 09:13:20 PM
Playing with make up 

You look super, super cute! That lipstick really suits you. I wouldn't have gendered you anything but a pretty cis-girl. I love the top and bottom right photos the best.

Just started living full time.  How do I look?

Quote from: yokosoko on August 16, 2014, 08:46:14 AM
on a scale  of one to 10 could you rate the jeans look with and without Blazer? I'd like to know which looks are great,  and which are ok but I still pass with   (I have a style notebook where I document all this xd.  I'm meticulous like that)

I don't know about scale of 1 to 10, but I wouldn't wear that blazer with the jeans.  Because it's short, it accents your lack of hips with the jeans.  But the a-line skirt flares out just under the blazer giving the illusion of hips...just like it would for a cis woman with hips.

A more traditional blazer with an hourglass shape cut might look better with the jeans.

The style notebook is a great idea!  I've started doing Pinterest to keep track of outfit ideas and remembering what I need to buy and not buying dumb things I'd never wear.

Fashion and makeup are such a huge part of being a woman and blending in, and we don't have the benefit of decades of growing up in that world.  So we have to put in extra effort to figure things out quickly.

Okay, this isn't really a can I pass right now, bc I am no where close to being fulltime. Its more of a after I start and am on hrt for a while type question. Also I am using a cheap wig I cut and styled a little. I started growing my own hair out a little more than a month ago from a military style cut.

Quote from: Emily29 on August 16, 2014, 09:07:40 PM
Damn girl you gorgeous <3

Thank you, very same to you beautiful! <3

Quote from: katiej on August 17, 2014, 12:53:57 AM
I don't know about scale of 1 to 10, but I wouldn't wear that blazer with the jeans.  Because it's short, it accents your lack of hips with the jeans.  But the a-line skirt flares out just under the blazer giving the illusion of hips...just like it would for a cis woman with hips.

A more traditional blazer with an hourglass shape cut might look better with the jeans.

The style notebook is a great idea!  I've started doing Pinterest to keep track of outfit ideas and remembering what I need to buy and not buying dumb things I'd never wear.

Fashion and makeup are such a huge part of being a woman and blending in, and we don't have the benefit of decades of growing up in that world.  So we have to put in extra effort to figure things out quickly.

Agreed,  however having said that,  did you know that magazines and runway models are often selected for having broad shoulders and small hips,  I. E.  Builds associated with men.  As such,  rather than making a bee line for a body shape I cannot achieve,  I'm currently aiming to emulate the physique of magazine/runway models (minus the anorexia).  As such I hope to be able to manage looks with jeans for that purpose,  although you're right,  I should aim for waist shrinking Blazers,  to help accentuate the appropriate assets.

Now having thought of it,  that's where I need to work on next,  waistline,  which will allow me to better emulate the physique I'm I am aiming for.  From here you  can always pad up where necessary,  but at least I like to know I have a workable base physique to build from

Quote from: Zoe Snow on August 16, 2014, 10:41:47 PM
Just started living full time.  How do I look?

Hi Zoe,

I think you look androgynous here. You look good, but I would have a moment or two of uncertainty gendering you. I might lean towards gendering you female because of the clothing and possibly the hair, but I'm not sure. If your hair is down, you might pass more, if you're wearing the same clothes. Small additions can help if you want to use them--nail polish, a tiny bit of makeup. These obviously aren't necessary but could help at a glance.

It's great to be brave enough to live full-time.

Quote from: Emily29 on August 16, 2014, 09:13:20 PM
Playing with make up 

Such a little doll face and all girl for sure!

Just wanted to drop in and say all of you ladies are looking gorgeous!