I'm not going to get into a fight about it, we all have our opinions and they are equally valid.

I'm certainly not "privileged".  I'm working class and have been going through this for 60+ years.  I never fit into "societies" view of normal, no transgendered person can.

But as I stated before, I'm lucky, I (personally) fit into the binary world and want to be referred to as my gender, Female.

I realize not everyone is happy with that and I fully realize that Non-binary people have a harder time being accepted.

Quote from: EchelonHunt on October 09, 2014, 12:25:06 PM
I don't want special rights either, I just want the same and equal rights as everyone else and a place in society where men, women and everyone in-between or neither can happily coexist together.

And a Non-specified/Other box under Male & Female on forms, if that's not too hard to ask for...

I agree completely. Well said.

I agree that much of this is about luck.  None of us chose our parents or place of birth.  Nobody asked us if our assigned birth sex fit.  We didn't get a choice about our race or ethnicity.  We do get some choices about educating ourselves and how we behave toward ourselves and others.  Privilege and opppresion existed long (hello kings & queens) before we were born and is systematic and institutionalized.  It is one major reason people usually have have a choice between male and female facilities.  I have personally experienced consideable white male priviledge prior to transitioning.  People treated me different than they did women or people of color.  I didn't invent this privilege and work to socialize  myself and our community in seeing the impacts.  It would be a wonderful world if/when each of us is treated as a unique and complex individual but we take the short cuts.  Those short cuts include seeing people in a binary perspective.  It simply is easier for many of us to see the world that way.  Using labels rather than getting to know you.
This is part of the real value of Susan's Place.  We write any number of posts and threads detailing just how we feel and see the world.  We get to share intimate experiences that others can learn from.  I have made many friends and actually have several real life friends i met right here.  We can get very sensitive about our issues and concerns but in the end we are one person reaching out.  I am hugely grateful that people here took my hand and hold it still.  Love makes a family and families make community.  Let us continue to make the most of ours.

Quote from: Tessa James on October 09, 2014, 01:59:07 PM
I agree that much of this is about luck.  None of us chose our parents or place of birth.  Nobody asked us if our assigned birth sex fit.  We didn't get a choice about our race or ethnicity.  We do get some choices about educating ourselves and how we behave toward ourselves and others.  Privilege and opppresion existed long (hello kings & queens) before we were born and is systematic and institutionalized.  It is one major reason people usually have have a choice between male and female facilities.  I have personally experienced consideable white male priviledge prior to. transitioning.  People treated me different than they did women or people of color.  I didn't invent this privilege and work to socialize  myself and our community in seeing the impacts.  It would be a wonderful world if/when each of us is treated as a unique and complex individual but we take the short cuts.  Those short cuts include seeing people in a binary perspective.  It simply is easier for many of us to see the world that way.  Using labels rather than getting to know you.
This is part of the real value of Susan's Place.  We write any number of posts and threads detailing just how we feel and see the world.  We get to share intimate experiences that others can learn from.  I have made many friends and actually have several real life friends i met right here.  We can get very sensitive about our issues and concerns but in the end we are one person reaching out.  I am hugely grateful that people here took my hand and hold it still.  Love makes a family and families make community.  Let us continue to make the most of ours.

Nuff Said

  ---  Julie