I've wondered about the older generation thing. I mean, my grandparents have turned out to be my greatest supporters. They love me for me. Unconditionally, no questions asked, and no doubts expressed. Also, one of my closest friends is in her seventies, and she too has been a staunch ally. Whereas I have younger friends and family who've dropped me like a hot potato.

I'm not sure how far you can push the generalization in this area.

Quote from: lostcharlie on November 08, 2015, 12:02:42 PM
not trying to be crass, but I think I'd have to ask grandma how many transgender people she knows......

No, I think that's a good point.

Like what are the sources and/or statistics she's reciting when she says that "most transgenders are unhappy?" And, heck, further more, the way that was even inquired would commonly be viewed as being a bit derogatory, to be blunt.

Last time I checked, transgender individuals are still people like everyone else at the end of the day and do not appreciate ever being referred to as a noun like that, alone.

But she is from an earlier time where things like this did not ever get publicly discussed. So I can understand why she would say it that way. She is just very concerned, at least.

My dad, on the other hand, doesn't even acknowledge it, lol! He never once uttered that word, transgender. I only talked to him and my mom about it once, when I came out, and that's it. My mom's alcoholic dementia caused her to forget the whole damn thing and well my dad pretends I am still his daughter.

~Nixy~

Quote from: WorkingOnThomas on November 08, 2015, 12:19:30 PM
Whereas I have younger friends and family who've dropped me like a hot potato.

That right there, really irritates my soul.

Well, at least now you know who your real friends are...

I never had any, but if I had a friend tell me he/she/they were transgender, I would listen and continue to love them as well as offer my support as much as I did when they were still representing themselves as cisgender or whatever. Like that ->-bleeped-<- shouldn't even matter but it does in a world full of labels!

~Nixy~

Quote from: King Phoenix on November 08, 2015, 12:41:51 PMLike what are the sources and/or statistics she's reciting when she says that "most transgenders are unhappy?" And, heck, further more, the way that was even inquired would commonly be viewed as being a bit derogatory, to be blunt.

I´m sorry about that part, that is actually just lazy translation on my side. I looked her message up, what she said exactly was (in Dutch, so still translated) "I have seen broadcasts on TV about men and women who went through this... and it´s just difficult and most of the time they´re not very happy". Then she asks whether I´m not getting carried away, whether I can handle something like it and she asks me whether it is worth it at all.

So the derogatory part is actually on me. I´m sorry about that, I wouldn´t mind someone referring to me as such but I can understand why not everybody would like a title like that.  She did call all transgenders "they" like a monolithic category and I don´t think she knows any personally.

Quote from: November Fox on November 08, 2015, 01:32:54 PM
I´m sorry about that part, that is actually just lazy translation on my side. I looked her message up, what she said exactly was (in Dutch, so still translated) "I have seen broadcasts on TV about men and women who went through this... and it´s just difficult and most of the time they´re not very happy". Then she asks whether I´m not getting carried away, whether I can handle something like it and she asks me whether it is worth it at all.

So the derogatory part is actually on me. I´m sorry about that, I wouldn´t mind someone referring to me as such but I can understand why not everybody would like a title like that.  She did call all transgenders "they" like a monolithic category and I don´t think she knows any personally.

Yeah. That makes sense. Well, I'm sorry if I sounded like a total ass when I said that without taking any other thoughts into consideration.

Heck, I do not know any transgender people personally myself either. And I am transgender. Basically I am the only transgender person I know on a personal level. So, I really can't say anything there...I only know what I know from research and the media too. To be honest, I'm a bit too frightened to ever know a transgender person cause I might misgender them by mistake, address them by the wrong name or offend them in some other way unintentionally.

My hematologist was supposed to have a post-op FTM talk to me about his transition. But I haven't heard anymore about that since August I think.

~Nixy~

I don't think the generation gap is really an excuse; older people are still living in today's society and no changes in tolerance etc have happened overnight. It's not our fault that some individuals cease to be informed or w/e.

grandma's watching to much Jerry Springer me thinks  !