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Started by flowers_and_trees, April 28, 2025, 02:09:38 PM

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flowers_and_trees

This is the beginning of my story, which itself has really only just begun in earnest.

In January of 2025, my wife of 17 years revealed something that was devastating for me and potentially our relationship. Perhaps I'll say more about the revelation in the future. After 3 days of "dark soul" and little sleep, I had an epiphany: I needed to change my way of being, of thinking and feeling. In short, I needed to "let go" of the conditioned garbage that I'd bought into for 60+ years about who I was and how that meant I was supposed to be.

I began reading Eckhart Tolle's _Stillness Speaks_, and it immediately resonated with me. In short, it encouraged the abandonment of *thinking* in favor of *being*, seeing, feeling. It made so much sense, and I immediately embraced the practice - something very familiar from my days of meditation 20 or so years earlier.

Jettisoning the toxic programming that wasn't serving me left me with a significant void in my sense of self, but that void was almost immediately filled - by love, joy, and peace. Consequently, I was much, much happier (and I thought I was already very happy).

What happened then, maybe a month or so into this shift was that I began to feel and to express a much more female persona - gentle, patient, loving, emotional... It was on and off (and still is), but it was undeniable. At that point, I had to begin to consider that I might be transgender.

More to follow...

Pema

Lori Dee

Thank you for sharing, Pema.

Such a wonderful beginning for your blog and your journey. This is your "Home" here at Susan's Place where you can keep track of your journey, and your avid readers can drop in to see what you've been up to. We look forward to future installments of "Rediscovering Pema"!
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TanyaG

Quote from: flowers_and_trees on April 28, 2025, 02:09:38 PMIn short, I needed to "let go" of the conditioned garbage that I'd bought into for 60+ years about who I was and how that meant I was supposed to be.

Sometimes it's difficult to see ourselves because we're lost in whom we've been told we should be.

tgirlamg

Welcome to the blog section Pema!

 Eckhart Tolle is good stuff and it is amazing how much of life we can live without an approach that allows us to listen... and be... and be filled with the things we need... As we empty ourself a bit and give ourself time and space to listen to our souls... We can create room within to fill with the best of what we find as we move in new directions.

All good things to you sister! Amazing discoveries patiently awaiting you!

Onward,

Ashley 💕
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" ... Ralph Waldo Emerson 🌸

"The individual has always had to struggle from being overwhelmed by the tribe... But, no price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself" ... Rudyard Kipling 🌸

Let go of the things that no longer serve you... Let go of the pretense of the false persona, it is not you... Let go of the armor that you have worn for a lifetime, to serve the expectations of others and, to protect the woman inside... She needs protection no longer.... She is tired of hiding and more courageous than you know... Let her prove that to you....Let her step out of the dark and feel the light upon her face.... amg🌸

Ashley's Corner: https://www.susans.org/index.php/topic,247549.0.html 🌻

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Dear Pema:
I am so glad to see that you have just started your very own Blog Thread
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your life journey with other like-minded members.
Your BLOG Thread here becomes your HOME here on the FORUM where members
here can easily find you and exchange comments and thoughts with you. 

In addition to my own Forum Blog Thread I keep a more private "old school" pen and paper
journal/diary at my home that includes snap shots, hand drawn doodling, and notes and
cards from my dear friends.
On cold, snowy nights, of which there are many here in Alaska where I live, I can be
found in my favorite chair in front of my fireplace reading over past entries, sometimes
with tears in my eyes, and sometimes with laughter.

When you share good news and successes your followers and readers (me included) will rejoice
with you... and when you report "not-so-good" news we will give your our ears to listen and
our shoulders for you to lean on.

I will continue to follow your updates, postings and reply comments not only here on your
Blog Thread but also all around the various Topics and Threads available on the Forum.
My best wishes to you for your success and happiness as you continue on in your journey.


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Welcome Pema, I am looking forward  to more of your story as you move forward in your new life.  🤗 Annaliese
Always  🏃 onward , there's no ⏳ to look  🔙. You are the person you were always meant to be.

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flowers_and_trees

I was an only child to very young parents (20 and 21). The pregnancy was unplanned, and neither of them was interested in parenting. They were college-educated though not particularly open-minded. My material needs were met, but that was about it. I'd see my peers' parents coming to school events and posting their homework and art on the refrigerator; none of that happened in our house. I was extremely lucky to have a dog. She was my sister and confidant.

My friends at school were mostly girls, and I preferred to play with them at recess. I was always small for my age, not athletic, and was drawn to the welcoming, unaggressive environment that the girls inhabited. In our elementary school, kids were assigned to learning groups based on their perceived aptitudes, and I was put in the "smart kids" group, which was the smallest group and was all girls except for me - six of us in total. So the majority of my first six years of school were spent in a group of girls. It's hard to imagine that that doesn't contribute to conditioning a kid, kind of like the hopping cats that were raised by rabbits. From that experience, I learned that girls were smart and capable - and friendly. They accepted me as one of them.

Somewhere around age 8, a group of girls invited me to go ice skating with them. I was thrilled. My mother said I couldn't go. "Boys don't play with girls," she told me. This was the messaging throughout my childhood, sometimes brutally blunt, more often subtle but no less restrictive. "You're a boy. This is what boys do. You can't do those things." The reality was that I couldn't - or just didn't want to - do most of the things boys do. I was shocked to find out that my classmates did things like play sports in leagues or go fishing with their dads or perform in choir or theater or anything other than going to school and then going home. My parents literally did nothing to introduce me to the options of life.

I also didn't assimilate particularly well. I was never openly disobedient, but I always felt strongly that the system I was being indoctrinated into didn't make any sense. School was painfully boring, and I always knew exactly how many days remained until the school year was over. I became depressed when summer ended and school resumed. I described school as "prison for children." I played the part as best I could but I only ever did just enough to satisfy my teachers' and parents' expectations. Church was very similar; it just didn't mean anything to me, but I had no choice.

And that's really how I felt about life in general. I was going through the motions as commanded in a life that held very little meaning or interest for me. But I always felt like there had to be more to it than what I was being shown. I felt it inside of me that life could be something much greater.

By about age 10, girls and boys at school began to become interested in each other in a new way, "going steady" and the activities that went with it. The girls in my cohort seemed to be attracted to the boys who were the type that were the polar opposite of me. This change made an already confounding situation seem utterly dystopic. I felt like I didn't belong anywhere.

During this same period, we'd go visit my aunt, uncle, and two cousins a couple of times a year. My female cousin was my age, and her brother was a year older. I always chose to hang out with her and her friends instead of him and his. Once we were there when she had a slumber party, and I got to be part of it. I let them put make-up on me and paint my nails. I felt so connected to them, like I was one of them. I always felt sad when it was time to leave, because I couldn't have friends like that at home.

Lilis

Quote from: flowers_and_trees on April 29, 2025, 10:35:48 PMSomewhere around age 8, a group of girls invited me to go ice skating with them. I was thrilled. My mother said I couldn't go. "Boys don't play with girls," she told me. This was the messaging throughout my childhood, sometimes brutally blunt, more often subtle but no less restrictive. "You're a boy. This is what boys do. You can't do those things." The reality was that I couldn't - or just didn't want to - do most of the things boys do. I was shocked to find out that my classmates did things like play sports in leagues or go fishing with their dads or perform in choir or theater or anything other than going to school and then going home. My parents literally did nothing to introduce me to the options of life.

I also didn't assimilate particularly well. I was never openly disobedient, but I always felt strongly that the system I was being indoctrinated into didn't make any sense. School was painfully boring, and I always knew exactly how many days remained until the school year was over. I became depressed when summer ended and school resumed. I described school as "prison for children." I played the part as best I could but I only ever did just enough to satisfy my teachers' and parents' expectations. Church was very similar; it just didn't mean anything to me, but I had no choice.

And that's really how I felt about life in general. I was going through the motions as commanded in a life that held very little meaning or interest for me. But I always felt like there had to be more to it than what I was being shown. I felt it inside of me that life could be something much greater.

By about age 10, girls and boys at school began to become interested in each other in a new way, "going steady" and the activities that went with it. The girls in my cohort seemed to be attracted to the boys who were the type that were the polar opposite of me. This change made an already confounding situation seem utterly dystopic. I felt like I didn't belong anywhere.
Hey Pema,

Your story resonated with me in a very personal way, not through my own childhood, but through what I'm witnessing now with my 10-year-old son. Like you, he's always gravitated toward friendships with girls. His teachers often comment that he's very popular with them, but he's also firm in his boundaries. He doesn't want to play with boys, and now that many of his girl friends are beginning to show interest in more traditionally "masculine" boys, he's feeling the shift.

His mother and I have noticed this, and we're trying to walk that delicate line between guiding and simply being there for him as he figures out who he is. We don't know if he's gay, trans, neither, or something else entirely, and we don't want to pressure him or make assumptions. We just want him to know he's safe, accepted, and loved no matter what path he walks.

He's already learning about LGBTQ+ identities in school, and when we talk with him about it, he says clearly that he's not a girl and not attracted to boys. And we honor that. I just wanted to say how important your story is, for those of us who've walked similar paths, and also for those of us raising children who might be quietly wrestling with the same questions.

Thank you for putting it into words.


~ Lilis 💗
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TanyaG

Quote from: flowers_and_trees on April 29, 2025, 10:35:48 PMSomewhere around age 8, a group of girls invited me to go ice skating with them. I was thrilled. My mother said I couldn't go. "Boys don't play with girls," she told me. This was the messaging throughout my childhood, sometimes brutally blunt, more often subtle but no less restrictive. "You're a boy. This is what boys do. You can't do those things."

Back in the seventies, when I was growing up, there were 'therapists' forgotten now, who would 'help' parents 'deprogramme' boys who were thought to be too feminine. I've been chasing down the research for several days now and it's an eye-opener. But despite your parents cracking down on you, it sounds as if a lot of your childhood didn't happen quite so accidentally as it may seem in retrospect, for instance, you finding your way into female company.

It's a bummer hitting your teens when you're trans, because as hormones flourish, lots of us miss out on relationships and lose friends as they start exploring their attraction to another sex. This one of the great unexplored areas of the psychology of transness and it's wonderful that you can rember how you felt. Which is just like most other trans people feel, marooned on an island with everyone else sailing away from us.

flowers_and_trees

@Lilis, it sounds like you're doing all of the things with your son that I'd have liked someone to do with me when I was his age: listen, care, support. Growing up can be difficult in the best of circumstances, but having parents who are interested in your experience and want to be there for and with you makes it less painful.

If someone had asked me at that age whether I was or wanted to be a girl, I'd definitely have said no. But I'd have said that a year ago, too.

@TanyaG, what I described was in the seventies, so I'm extremely grateful that my parents didn't choose to send me to one of those "therapists." And I agree that my childhood was instrumental in getting me to where I am today. It still leaves the nature vs. nurture question unanswered, but I don't feel like I need to know that answer to be who I am today.

Quote from: TanyaG on April 30, 2025, 06:06:43 AM...like most other trans people feel, marooned on an island with everyone else sailing away from us.

Absolutely. Eventually, I grew to be more pleased than bothered by this.

flowers_and_trees

"Will" was my closest friend outside of school during those early years. His family was better off financially than mine, but they were also more close-knit. They'd go to various events around town and let their two kids each bring a friend. I was often invited to spend the night at their house, which I loved because their family functioned the way I wished mine did. The parents would ask the kids about their lives, and there would be engaging dialog - even with me! Will was also very different from other boys I knew; he was sensitive, caring, talked about his desires and his feelings. I really appreciated that, since it was a lot like what I'd experienced hanging out with girls in my earlier years. Eventually, when I learned about homosexuality, I realized he was likely gay, and I didn't think anything about it. We drifted apart after elementary school. I reconnected with him about 10 years ago, and he talked about his long-time male partner. Of course he was gay.

Along the way, one of my grandmothers taught me to crochet, which I found to be fun, easy, and practical. Both of my grandfathers were avid gardeners, and I took very quickly to it. To this day, it still feels like magic to me that you can plant seeds and watch them become what they were meant to be. I had an uncle who, like my father, was very mechanically inclined and fell into repairing sewing machines. Of course, in the process, he learned to sew and taught me. Again, this seemed like an incredibly useful skill, and I was enthralled by the wide array of fabrics available and the endless possibilities.

Somewhere in all of this, I began to be ridiculed, mostly by boys, for doing things "like a girl:" the way I walked, what I talked about or the way I'd speak, the kinds of activities I enjoyed. For the most part, I didn't care - until it became apparent that the girls now preferred the company of those boys instead of me. The same female cousin who'd put make-up on me not that long ago was now telling me the attributes of the boys that girls liked: broad shoulders, strong arms, confidence and "swagger." I didn't meet any of those criteria. Not only was I short and had thick-thighs, my hips were round. There was no way to "fix" that. I decided my only recourse was to build my upper body to compensate. I started with daily push-ups and trained myself to walk and speak more like the popular boys. In effect, I began to condition myself to approximate as best I could the male archetype I'd been told was desirable. What else could I do?

flowers_and_trees

This awareness of who I truly am is all so new and unexplored for me. I feel amazingly good when I find myself "in the zone" and fully embodying Pema, but I have decades of conditioning to be someone else, so it can be very common and frustrating to feel like "him" when I'd really rather just be me. I find that this happens most often when I'm "busy," i.e. working hard to get something done - especially on short time.

This trip we have to make next week has put both my wife and me very much in "do mode" instead of "be mode." It's a practice for us both to try to maintain our equanimity while trying to accomplish so much so quickly, and we're doing better at it than we ever have before. But I miss being her, and I know my wife misses her, too. This morning I was feeling sad about it, on the edge of tears. I believe that I'll eventually de-condition myself enough that I can be me all of the time, and I understand that that's a process that will take time and patience.

As I was feeling that sadness, my wife was preparing to leave on a grocery run. I asked if that would be her only errand (so that I could know whether I should prepare lunch). She hesitated in an odd way and then said, "The truth is that I'm going to go to Victoria's Secret to get something for you."

That helps a lot. As Lori said, my wife's a keeper.

Lori Dee

Eventually, you will come to realize that you never were "him". You have always been you. What you did in the past was to play a role, a sort of camouflage for a variety of reasons. Safety, doing as you were taught, or just trying to fit in. You were merely doing what you felt you needed to do at that time.

Humans are always learning. Sometimes we learn things about the world around us, and sometimes we learn things about ourselves. Anything you did before you learned who you were cannot be held against you, especially not by you.

You are still you, no matter what you are wearing. You are still you even if you are forced into behavior that is unlike you. I am not a football player, but I have played football. I donned the uniform, memorized the plays, and performed my duties as a wide receiver. Eventually, I took off the uniform. Nothing about me changed while I was in uniform, except the role I was playing.

Give yourself a break. Relax. It is a temporary situation that you need to deal with. This, too, shall pass.

Hugs!
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2017 - GD Diagnosis / 2019- 2nd Diagnosis / 2020 - HRT / 2022 - FFS & Legal Name Change
/ 2024 - Voice Training / 2025 - Passport & IDs complete

tgirlamg

Quote from: flowers_and_trees on May 02, 2025, 12:47:17 PMThis awareness of who I truly am is all so new and unexplored for me. I feel amazingly good when I find myself "in the zone" and fully embodying Pema, but I have decades of conditioning to be someone else, so it can be very common and frustrating to feel like "him" when I'd really rather just be me. I find that this happens most often when I'm "busy," i.e. working hard to get something done - especially on short time.

This trip we have to make next week has put both my wife and me very much in "do mode" instead of "be mode." It's a practice for us both to try to maintain our equanimity while trying to accomplish so much so quickly, and we're doing better at it than we ever have before. But I miss being her, and I know my wife misses her, too. This morning I was feeling sad about it, on the edge of tears. I believe that I'll eventually de-condition myself enough that I can be me all of the time, and I understand that that's a process that will take time and patience.

As I was feeling that sadness, my wife was preparing to leave on a grocery run. I asked if that would be her only errand (so that I could know whether I should prepare lunch). She hesitated in an odd way and then said, "The truth is that I'm going to go to Victoria's Secret to get something for you."

That helps a lot. As Lori said, my wife's a keeper.

Pema!

Much of the joy will be in the exploration and the amazing discoveries that await... We often bury all the puzzle pieces of who we are early in life... years later, they begin to pop out of the ground... if we are ready to assemble them at that time, we find they form quite the beautiful picture 🤗

Don't worry about... feeling like "him" at times ... when we are busy with tasks, we fall into our familiar auto pilot mode we have used most all of our life to tackle things that need to be done... so the association of that feeling are heavily weighted to the old and familiar guy persona... it takes time, and quiet... and interactions with others and the world to feel and know at deeper levels the self we have spent so much time trying to bury... As you nurture her... She shall blossom! 🌸

Enjoy every step of this... the process of becoming... discovering... embracing... is every bit as amazing as being. 🌻

Onward Brave Sister!

Ashley 💕
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" ... Ralph Waldo Emerson 🌸

"The individual has always had to struggle from being overwhelmed by the tribe... But, no price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself" ... Rudyard Kipling 🌸

Let go of the things that no longer serve you... Let go of the pretense of the false persona, it is not you... Let go of the armor that you have worn for a lifetime, to serve the expectations of others and, to protect the woman inside... She needs protection no longer.... She is tired of hiding and more courageous than you know... Let her prove that to you....Let her step out of the dark and feel the light upon her face.... amg🌸

Ashley's Corner: https://www.susans.org/index.php/topic,247549.0.html 🌻

flowers_and_trees

Thank you, @Lori Dee. I know it's temporary; I'm really very patient, I swear. It's just a case of having seen who I am and feeling unable to *be* that person "inside" sometimes. Your saying that I never was "him" is a very valuable perspective, although I could (but won't!) turn it into, "So just stop pretending to be him." I know, I'm just emoting. I expect to look back on this and laugh someday.

@tgirlamg, I appreciate your encouragement to enjoy the ride. That's typically been my mantra, but apparently I needed to be reminded of it. Thank you.

Sephirah

Just to offer you a somewhat different perspective, sweetie.

Don't see "him" and "her" as different entities. They are both you. Yin and Yang. Trans people have a somewhat unique outlook in being able to experience both extremes in a very real way. To be exposed to, and... learn what the Yin and Yang actually means.

In the end, we always find balance. But it doesn't hurt for the scales to tip one way or the other sometimes. The important thing is to try to understand that everything you have been through, everything you feel, and think, goes into making you... you. However you express, however you dress, however you look... you always have been and always will be Pema.

*big hugs*
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davina61

Yes I am just me as I have always been just look different slightly!Still do the same old stuff I like but with a twist.
a long time coming (out) HRT 12 2017
GRS 2021 5th Nov

Jill of all trades mistress of non
Know a bit about everything but not enough to be clever

TanyaG

Quote from: flowers_and_trees on May 02, 2025, 12:47:17 PMI feel amazingly good when I find myself "in the zone" and fully embodying Pema, but I have decades of conditioning to be someone else, so it can be very common and frustrating to feel like "him" when I'd really rather just be me.

With your partner on your side (she sounds very like mine) it should become easier and easier to eliminate the conditioning, which is what's called 'scripting'. Just having someone around who is happy not to reinforce the scripts you're trying to ditch will accelerate the process, because it'll allow you to construct a new normative that fits who you are, rather than the ambitions of the people who brought you up for who they wanted you to be.

All of us have to eliminate that gap somehow, but having a partner around who loves you for being you is like having a drip feed of confirmation that it's fine to be yourself. I have but one word of advice, if you value your bank balance, do not let her discover Agent Provocateur :-)

Mrs. Oliphant

I wasn't feeling well much of last week and noticed I seldom cross dressed or affected my more feminine self (Annika), though I did catch up on my sleep: 12-14 hours a day/night. As I recovered, the skirts, dresses, blouses, and camisoles were back in style. So was Annika. I'm not sure it's the same thing as you're experiencing, Pema, with the upcoming journey. And my daughter never offered to go to Victoria's Secret (you do have an amazing partner; she reminds me of TanyaG's Ginny). For me, gender is messy. Most of the time, I think the messiness is awesome.