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Community Conversation => Non-binary talk => Topic started by: Nero on January 23, 2008, 07:17:19 PM

Title: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on January 23, 2008, 07:17:19 PM
Really?
Why so calm, cool and collected?
Now I love ya'll (specially my Reebs) and I'm not making fun, but...
It's almost... unearthly.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on January 23, 2008, 07:38:58 PM
I guess most things look like a joke from the outside
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on January 23, 2008, 07:44:31 PM
Uh... is that supposed to be an answer? Cause I'm not getting it. I'm used to peeps whose blood runs near the surface.
Calm, cool, collected peeps don't happen in my world.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Wing Walker on January 23, 2008, 07:53:36 PM
Quote from: Nero on January 23, 2008, 07:44:31 PM
Uh... is that supposed to be an answer? Cause I'm not getting it. I'm used to peeps whose blood runs near the surface.
Calm, cool, collected peeps don't happen in my world.

Hi, Nero,

I am almost always easy-going until someone steps on my corns.  There isn't much that flaps.  Judging by my body temperature and blood pressure I definitely exist somewhere!

Wing Walker
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on January 23, 2008, 07:53:46 PM

Nero,

   You are sweet and I appreciate your sense of curiosity.


I can't speak for the others, but, in my case, I have a need for calm.  Plus, I see and understand most all sides to a situation.  If others might be wrong, then I might be wrong too.  I have to consider that what I see in other people is also who I am, or, who I could be.

am burnt out.  will try more thinking later.


Rebis
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on January 23, 2008, 08:20:06 PM
Quote from: Rebis on January 23, 2008, 07:53:46 PM
If others might be wrong, then I might be wrong too.  I have to consider that what I see in other people is also who I am, or, who I could be.

Yeah, that's it. The androgyne thing is a partly straddling thing between two genders, gives you the feeling that things are not rigid or right.

It is also a way of being outside the gender thing, which leads to a detachment, where lots of things feel like a joke or an absurdity.

It's not participation is it, it's lack of involvement, it's coldness.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on January 23, 2008, 08:26:31 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on January 23, 2008, 08:20:06 PM
Quote from: Rebis on January 23, 2008, 07:53:46 PM
If others might be wrong, then I might be wrong too.  I have to consider that what I see in other people is also who I am, or, who I could be.

Yeah, that's it. The androgyne thing is a partly straddling thing between two genders, gives you the feeling that things are not rigid or right.

It is also a way of being outside the gender thing, which leads to a detachment, where lots of things feel like a joke or an absurdity.

It's not participation is it, it's lack of involvement, it's coldness.

So, androgyne = cold. Is that your answer?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on January 23, 2008, 08:48:03 PM
I also try to see/understand both sides of any situation, and don't let to be judgmental. Most people I know consider me to be a pretty mellow person. I very rarely get angry, but when I do, watch out... Z does have a temper  ::)

When I was in therapy, and talking about very painful things in my life, my therapist said I described these things very matter of fact, and detached, as if I didn't feel any emotions. I think that was some kind of defense mechanism on my part because believe me, I do feel things quite intensely. I wouldn't consider that to be an androgyne trait in particular, just one aspect of my personality.

y2g
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Seshatneferw on January 24, 2008, 07:22:56 AM
Quote from: y2gender on January 23, 2008, 08:48:03 PM
When I was in therapy, and talking about very painful things in my life, my therapist said I described these things very matter of fact, and detached, as if I didn't feel any emotions. I think that was some kind of defense mechanism on my part because believe me, I do feel things quite intensely. I wouldn't consider that to be an androgyne trait in particular, just one aspect of my personality.

Um, have you been stealing my mind lately? This sounds just like some of my sessions, although from the hints you've been dropping I don't think I can match your painful experiences (not that I'd want to :-\). I wouldn't have considered this an androgyne trait either, but now that you bring this up it seems possible that this trait has something to do with it.

For a while now I've worked under the hypothesis that my androgyny is really a result of two things. On the one hand it feels like I have a regular case of GID: this body seems wrong in the same way many 'normal' transsexuals describe it. On the other hand, I lack most of the social dysphoria, and there is no overwhelming distress. The social aspects I think are partly nurture (as opposed to nature): I was lucky enough that I wasn't forced too far into a 'male' role. Still, upbringing doesn't explain quite all of it, and it just struck me that diluting strong emotions might be part of my coping mechanism.

(See, here I go again, coolly analysing my emotional makeup. ;))

  Nfr
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on January 24, 2008, 08:04:45 AM
there you go, better description - people using oldness to control feelings. The looseness being natural, but coldness being a tool.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on January 24, 2008, 08:14:16 AM
So, are you saying ya'll do feel things? And it's just a 'coldfront' ya'll put up?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on January 24, 2008, 03:05:04 PM
Quote from: Nero on January 24, 2008, 08:14:16 AM
So, are you saying ya'll do feel things? And it's just a 'coldfront' ya'll put up?

Yes, we are actually human and feel things  ;)  :o

I've always been an introvert and shy, took a while to realize that other people perceived that as being standoffish or cold.

y2g

Posted on: January 24, 2008, 08:22:52 AM
Quote from: Seshatneferw on January 24, 2008, 07:22:56 AM
Um, have you been stealing my mind lately? This sounds just like some of my sessions, although from the hints you've been dropping I don't think I can match your painful experiences (not that I'd want to :-\). I wouldn't have considered this an androgyne trait either, but now that you bring this up it seems possible that this trait has something to do with it.

For a while now I've worked under the hypothesis that my androgyny is really a result of two things. On the one hand it feels like I have a regular case of GID: this body seems wrong in the same way many 'normal' transsexuals describe it. On the other hand, I lack most of the social dysphoria, and there is no overwhelming distress. The social aspects I think are partly nurture (as opposed to nature): I was lucky enough that I wasn't forced too far into a 'male' role. Still, upbringing doesn't explain quite all of it, and it just struck me that diluting strong emotions might be part of my coping mechanism.

(See, here I go again, coolly analysing my emotional makeup. ;))

  Nfr


This mind stealing stuff seems to happen an awful lot in the androgyne section  ;)

Interesting, for me, the social dysphoria is what really gets to me, although I've gone through occasional phases where the body dysphora was more intense.

Now I'm wondering about emotional make-up, what colors does it come in, how to apply it properly, and where can I buy it? My local stores are out of stock!!  ;) :D

y2g
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: nigno on January 24, 2008, 03:59:25 PM
Isn't it so much easier than to be stressed?  Works for me..    ;)

N
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Seshatneferw on January 25, 2008, 05:55:56 AM
Quote from: y2gender on January 24, 2008, 03:05:04 PM
Now I'm wondering about emotional make-up, what colors does it come in, how to apply it properly, and where can I buy it? My local stores are out of stock!!  ;) :D

It comes in a wide range of colours, so you should first decide on the colour scheme you want. Back when I was in my teens people tried to convince me to go for the Testosterone product line. True, it gives a rugged and confident look, especially if you apply it with a sufficiently broad brush, but somehow it didn't quite fit the style I was going for. Still, that's what I used, even though I tried a much more subtle approach. Lately, though, I've realised that I'm allergic to their DHT brand of hair products.

Their main competition is the Oestrogen brand, and several of my friends use that exclusively. Some of it seems a bit over the top for me, especially since I and my wife try to complement each other, not compete. Still, I've found that a subdued foundation from the Testosterone line works very well with a bit of Oestrogen highlights. I'm afraid most of this stuff is intended for professionals, so they are usually hard to find in normal consumer stores.

Then there are several other product lines mainly intended to complement either of these. For instance, some people use products such as Prozac to get a little lighter overall result, although this too is meant to be used under the guidance of a professional emotional makeup artist. For me, the fine details depend on the occasion. The Caffeine range is sometimes useful for covering the effects of fatigue; for special festive occasions, Champagne often works quite well. Again, the trick is to be subtle, so don't overdo it.

  Nfr
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Just Mandy on January 25, 2008, 10:22:48 AM
Until your post I never really associated it with TS. But after thinking about it I have to agree that suppressing or diluting strong
emotions might be part of the coping mechanism. But I also believe that it may be hormonal somehow.

I do know that as I got older I'm not nearly as able to control emotions as when I was younger. From about age 8 though about 25
I was one cool cucumber. No one got to me (in public) and people would remark how patient and calm I was.
There were no highs, no lows, just steady. It would piss others off to no end that I could remain so calm when confronted
by a raving lunatic. And there was no fear of anything, I did some things that to this day(climbing, biking)  I have no idea how I
survived or why I did them. But there was absolutely no thought of consequence. Some would probably call it a death wish and
that might be the case to some extent.

Somewhere around 25 though I started growing facial hair and looked more masculine.  I think the big T kicked in. About mid 30's
I grew chest hair(more T I assume) and from that point I gradually moved to a more normal emotional response where I showed more male anger, rage, etc.
So much more my wife remarked a couple of years ago how much I had changed.

HRT has me back to extreme and noticeable CALM. No anger, no problems, just steady happy, very happy, did I say
happy? emotions. In my case I think the T did not agree with my internal wiring. Or I may be just full of it.  :)

Amanda

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Tohl on January 25, 2008, 05:53:45 PM
Why so calm and collected? It's the balance... I put an introduction up a couple of weeks ago '56 year old virgin' briefly telling my story. I repackaged myself in Dec 2000, moving from male (externally) to neuter, if labels are needed to define bodily appearance. My male equipment was healthy, handsome (so my girlfriends and partners would say) and I enjoyed a lot of good sex but... to me it was a built in strap-on and had to go to allow me to expand my 'other half'. one g/f asked me why I couldn't just take the 'mones and be a '->-bleeped-<-' (she would still have been interested in having sex with me in that situation) Tempting but not enough for me. Walking away from my 'birth-defect' allowed me to step back from hetero attraction and reposition myself socially. With my cherished friends it has been smooth, a little tougher on the inner city streets. Sadly certain minority members of the community are predictable -at 50mtrs they think they want to bed you, at 30 mtrs they ain't too sure and at 10mtrs they are feeling for a weapon... but I live a full life, part of a community group that run Open Mic nights for Poets and musicians, have earnt a living for 15 years touring with performers from all over the world. Personal pronouns vary according to language and culture, my close friends use 'she' as do my step-kids. I look good in an A-line dress and heels but live and work in jeans and t-shirts. Not long after my rebuild I had a couple of intimate encounters with curious young women, one is now a close friend the other was a muppet (maybe that's unkind to muppets) then followed a disastrous inter-net affair with a lying Cuban bitch and since I have settled into a celibate lifestyle concentrating on the community, touring and my family around the world. Sure I would love a soulmate but I'm still getting used to the sense of being me and not a walking dildo... I feel for those who have it a lot tougher and I've seen so much courage i the posts on here already.
Tohl x
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on January 25, 2008, 09:54:19 PM

maybe we should be asking androgynes who are NOT mild to speak up. 

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Simone Louise on January 26, 2008, 04:09:01 PM
Aggressive androgynes shouldn't need an invitation.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on January 26, 2008, 09:08:45 PM
Quote from: Rebis on January 25, 2008, 09:54:19 PM

maybe we should be asking androgynes who are NOT mild to speak up. 



they are too scared of us. we might offer then a cup of tea
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: emmi/andy on January 27, 2008, 08:16:28 AM
Alright, I'm an aggressive androgyne, but I will accept that cup of tea.

My aggression doesn't generally come out anymore. I'm angry a lot, because I'm short, female bodied, and young looking, so people don't take me seriously. However, I'm pretty good at controlling myself, after a lot of practice, because I don't like hurting people (emotionally or physically). It sucks though, people usually take that to mean that I'm not affected in any way, and that's not true at all. I've had that "coldness" label applied to me a lot, partly because I think very logically and partly because it's my way of trying to avoid hurting people when I'm upset.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on January 27, 2008, 02:10:40 PM
Quote from: emmi/andy on January 27, 2008, 08:16:28 AM
Alright, I'm an aggressive androgyne, but I will accept that cup of tea.

My aggression doesn't generally come out anymore. I'm angry a lot, because I'm short, female bodied, and young looking, so people don't take me seriously. However, I'm pretty good at controlling myself, after a lot of practice, because I don't like hurting people (emotionally or physically). It sucks though, people usually take that to mean that I'm not affected in any way, and that's not true at all. I've had that "coldness" label applied to me a lot, partly because I think very logically and partly because it's my way of trying to avoid hurting people when I'm upset.

   I had a very angry period and nobody even knew.  It was for the same reason as you; I don't want to hurt people emotionally or physically.  I wonder if that is the secret of our seeming mildness - that we have the need to not hurt others at any cost.


   
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Ell on January 27, 2008, 09:46:06 PM
Quote from: Rebis on January 27, 2008, 02:10:40 PM
I had a very angry period and nobody even knew.

oh i think some of us knew...
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on January 28, 2008, 08:39:32 PM
Quote from: ell on January 27, 2008, 09:46:06 PM
Quote from: Rebis on January 27, 2008, 02:10:40 PM
I had a very angry period and nobody even knew.

oh i think some of us knew...
Whyyyyy youuuuuuuuuuuuu!  I'm going to kick your behind.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on February 02, 2008, 03:17:49 PM
Quote from: Rebis on January 23, 2008, 07:53:46 PM
I can't speak for the others, but, in my case, I have a need for calm.  Plus, I see and understand most all sides to a situation.  If others might be wrong, then I might be wrong too.  I have to consider that what I see in other people is also who I am, or, who I could be.

It's like you're in my head, Rebis!!! 

I've only recently achieved this calmness...I'd say in the last two years.  Before that, I shifted between extreme numbness, anger, and depression, but I didn't display that in front of others without some extreme pushing.  But one day I realized how unhealthy it was to get so swallowed up by all of those negative feelings and I decided to change.  Anger and the like are a waste of energy, as far as I'm concerned.  Basically, I got tired of being tired.  :)  It's a lot easier to not get angry than to deal with the consequences of that anger. 

I've got some pretty serious detachment issues myself...
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Veetje on February 03, 2008, 06:12:01 AM
Quote from: Jaimey on February 02, 2008, 03:17:49 PM
Quote from: Rebis on January 23, 2008, 07:53:46 PM
I can't speak for the others, but, in my case, I have a need for calm.  Plus, I see and understand most all sides to a situation.  If others might be wrong, then I might be wrong too.  I have to consider that what I see in other people is also who I am, or, who I could be.

It's like you're in my head, Rebis!!! 

I've only recently achieved this calmness...I'd say in the last two years.  Before that, I shifted between extreme numbness, anger, and depression, but I didn't display that in front of others without some extreme pushing.  But one day I realized how unhealthy it was to get so swallowed up by all of those negative feelings and I decided to change.  Anger and the like are a waste of energy, as far as I'm concerned.  Basically, I got tired of being tired.  :)  It's a lot easier to not get angry than to deal with the consequences of that anger. 

I've got some pretty serious detachment issues myself...

I notice the same in myself....shifting between serenity ( I luv this word  :-*) and extreme anger and frustration

I expect HRT, if I ever get it, to put me more at ease
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on February 03, 2008, 04:00:46 PM
Quote from: Veetje on February 03, 2008, 06:12:01 AM
Quote from: Jaimey on February 02, 2008, 03:17:49 PM
Quote from: Rebis on January 23, 2008, 07:53:46 PM
I can't speak for the others, but, in my case, I have a need for calm.  Plus, I see and understand most all sides to a situation.  If others might be wrong, then I might be wrong too.  I have to consider that what I see in other people is also who I am, or, who I could be.

It's like you're in my head, Rebis!!! 

I've only recently achieved this calmness...I'd say in the last two years.  Before that, I shifted between extreme numbness, anger, and depression, but I didn't display that in front of others without some extreme pushing.  But one day I realized how unhealthy it was to get so swallowed up by all of those negative feelings and I decided to change.  Anger and the like are a waste of energy, as far as I'm concerned.  Basically, I got tired of being tired.  :)  It's a lot easier to not get angry than to deal with the consequences of that anger. 

I've got some pretty serious detachment issues myself...

I notice the same in myself....shifting between serenity ( I luv this word  :-*) and extreme anger and frustration

I expect HRT, if I ever get it, to put me more at ease

thirded, people laugh when I try and express my anger
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on February 03, 2008, 05:09:10 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on February 03, 2008, 04:00:46 PM
thirded, people laugh when I try and express my anger

Ouch! That must really hurt.

y2g
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on February 03, 2008, 05:20:49 PM
means I don't often feel angry, when a feeling has been invalidated that often...
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on February 03, 2008, 05:43:46 PM
People look at me like I'm some crazy bitch when I get upset, like I'm the only person in the world who isn't allowed to be angry.  I don't even get angry, really.  I just get frustrated and then I somehow become the bad guy. 

I don't really get it.  If I get mad at my little brother, I'm supposed to remain calm because I'm older.  If I point out something that someone else does that upsets me, I'm a bitch.  Strange how those same standards don't apply to everyone else.  Especially since I'm one of the most immovable, aloof people you will ever meet.  And god forbid I have pms!!!  (...it's a long story, but I'm on the verge of ripping my ovaries out...makes for a slightly cranky Jaimey...)

I spent a long time burying any emotion which is unhealthy according to EVERYONE, so I try to become more emotional and to express my emotions, which is inconvenient for those around me.  *sigh* 
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on February 03, 2008, 05:53:50 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on February 03, 2008, 05:20:49 PM
means I don't often feel angry, when a feeling has been invalidated that often...

awww you're just a big baby :laugh:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 03, 2008, 05:54:15 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on February 03, 2008, 05:43:46 PM
People look at me like I'm some crazy bitch when I get upset, like I'm the only person in the world who isn't allowed to be angry.  I don't even get angry, really.  I just get frustrated and then I somehow become the bad guy. 

I don't really get it.  If I get mad at my little brother, I'm supposed to remain calm because I'm older.  If I point out something that someone else does that upsets me, I'm a bitch.  Strange how those same standards don't apply to everyone else.  Especially since I'm one of the most immovable, aloof people you will ever meet.  And god forbid I have pms!!!  (...it's a long story, but I'm on the verge of ripping my ovaries out...makes for a slightly cranky Jaimey...)

I spent a long time burying any emotion which is unhealthy according to EVERYONE, so I try to become more emotional and to express my emotions, which is inconvenient for those around me.  *sigh* 
Me too.

Thank God Jaimey was born with the ovaries I was supposed to get.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on February 03, 2008, 06:31:13 PM
I could mail them to you... :icon_chainsaw:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on February 03, 2008, 07:07:53 PM
1st or 2nd class?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on February 03, 2008, 07:14:12 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on February 03, 2008, 06:31:13 PM
I could mail them to you... :icon_chainsaw:

Personally I'd recommend using something a little less drastic than a chainsaw  ;)

y2g
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 03, 2008, 10:36:55 PM
yeah.  I don't need no messed up ovaries.

Take them out gently and package them safely.  I'll be more than happy to sign for them.



act II

Rebis places the ovaries in a nest and impregnates the eggs creating an army of androgynes.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on February 03, 2008, 11:15:45 PM
SRS by Mcculloch chainsaw??? "Yetch!!!" Well I love all you guys anyway regardless of attitudes. When I get angry it only last for about five minutes tops, then I probably come out with some outlandish joke then laugh my butt off.  Hey Jaimey hon, you know where to find me if you have a need to let a little steam off. Heck I know all about that with people that know your personality and temperament they know they can get away with a lot of crap. Well may they get abducted by aliens and dropped off on some remote unknown rock on some corner of west hell. Nah...not that mean, I just wish them pimples on their sex. Goodness must be a lot infected of folks with this new infliction.

Cindy 
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 04, 2008, 08:27:51 AM
* in my lab*

remove my own testes
place them in a metal shake cup with the ovaries
shake them up
shake them up
shake them up
place contents in a nicely built nest
await birth of a new world order.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on February 04, 2008, 08:49:07 AM
"Hee, hee, hee!" laughing my tooter off. That was a really good one. This laughing thing, maybe it's contagious ah?

Thanks, Love ya

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Ell on February 04, 2008, 03:43:48 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 03, 2008, 10:36:55 PM
Rebis places the ovaries in a nest and impregnates the eggs creating an army of androgynes.

now, would you be doing that artificially or, au naturale? 

don't wanna get the wrong mental picture here.

-ellie
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on February 04, 2008, 06:44:43 PM
How's that army coming?  I'm glad I could contribute to the Androgyne take-over!

Quote from: y2gender on February 03, 2008, 07:14:12 PM
Personally I'd recommend using something a little less drastic than a chainsaw  ;)
y2g

The pint sized emoticon chainsaw worked pretty well.  At least they don't hurt anymore...:icon_geekdance:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 04, 2008, 07:05:25 PM
Quote from: ell on February 04, 2008, 03:43:48 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 03, 2008, 10:36:55 PM
Rebis places the ovaries in a nest and impregnates the eggs creating an army of androgynes.

now, would you be doing that artificially or, au naturale? 

don't wanna get the wrong mental picture here.

-ellie
I would use the process that Bond uses for making his martinis, shaken, not stirred.  Also, it would be immoral to enjoy myself in a laboratory.   You really are evil, aren't you?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on February 04, 2008, 07:11:59 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 03, 2008, 10:36:55 PM
act II

Rebis places the ovaries in a nest and impregnates the eggs creating an army of androgynes.

Hmmmm, an army of androgynes... all laying down their guns to pick flowers and dance in the field ;)

I think our androgyne army should have b->-bleeped-<-ipers  ;D

y2g
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 04, 2008, 07:20:28 PM
Make androgynes, not war.

smell flowers, not Bush.   :-X  ::)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on February 04, 2008, 08:06:16 PM
what???

rubbish - I want those mucho scary attack androgynes,
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on February 04, 2008, 09:37:21 PM
Androgyne army

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi11.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa191%2Fcynthiag932%2Ffreddie_highmore3.jpg&hash=f55ff2053ce3dce127880216aa227156bfcd3a50)

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on February 04, 2008, 09:55:45 PM
I'm the one on the left.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 04, 2008, 10:41:40 PM

I want to be the one on the right, but I'm the one in the middle.


when I said don't smell Bush earlier, I meant don't smell GW Bush.  It was political.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Seshatneferw on February 05, 2008, 02:46:46 AM
Quote from: y2gender on February 04, 2008, 07:11:59 PM
I think our androgyne army should have b->-bleeped-<-ipers  ;D

An army of androgyne b->-bleeped-<-ipers? Sounds good, although something of a pipe dream.

Well, at least it would force us to be in the open: b->-bleeped-<-ipes, closets and eardrums don't mix very well.

  Nfr
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on February 05, 2008, 02:59:23 AM
I love the bag pipes but Scottish I am not, I am just ordinary French and Iroquois Canadian decent. Ontario to be more exact, lots of snow!!! "TO MUCH!!!!" of the stuff. And that's why I don't live there anymore I wonder how many times I can move before I buy that farm in the sky. "Hee, hee, hee." My foster daughter 's dad was Scottish and he played the b->-bleeped-<-ipes.

Cindy   
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Ell on February 05, 2008, 08:58:06 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 04, 2008, 10:41:40 PM
when I said don't smell Bush earlier, I meant don't smell GW Bush.  It was political.

oh, uh huh.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 05, 2008, 10:59:39 PM

yes.

smell jennifer flowers, not GW Bush!
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Calyx on February 05, 2008, 11:56:56 PM
Hello again Nero,

I don't know if you are familiar with the Myers-Briggs Temperament Sorter.

I am typed an INFP (Healer Idealist), which means basically I'm an
introverted feeling perceiving type who craves harmony and peaceful
relationships and seems calm to the outside world.

Basically, I'm just hardwired this way.

Of course, this doesn't explain the stomach ulcer I was diagnosed with in
high school, my very high blood pressure, or the fact that I often have
anxiety attacks and bite my nails

The surface calm you perceive could be a deception.

Survival in our society necessitates camalflouge if you are not an alpha.

Calyx
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 06, 2008, 07:49:18 AM
Quote from: Calyx on February 05, 2008, 11:56:56 PM
Hello again Nero,

I don't know if you are familiar with the Myers-Briggs Temperament Sorter.

I am typed an INFP (Healer Idealist), which means basically I'm an
introverted feeling perceiving type who craves harmony and peaceful
relationships and seems calm to the outside world.

Basically, I'm just hardwired this way.

Of course, this doesn't explain the stomach ulcer I was diagnosed with in
high school, my very high blood pressure, or the fact that I often have
anxiety attacks and bite my nails

The surface calm you perceive could be a deception.

Survival in our society necessitates camalflouge if you are not an alpha.

Calyx
My thought would be that the ulcer is from not finding an outlet for the negative feelings you get.  Everyone needs a way of dispersing or ridding themselves of those feelings.

Meditation and/or exercise can help.  Hobbies.


Stay calm, but don't let yourself churn inside.



Rebis
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on February 06, 2008, 08:34:20 PM
Quote from: Seshatneferw on February 05, 2008, 02:46:46 AM
Quote from: y2gender on February 04, 2008, 07:11:59 PM
I think our androgyne army should have b->-bleeped-<-ipers  ;D

An army of androgyne b->-bleeped-<-ipers? Sounds good, although something of a pipe dream.

Well, at least it would force us to be in the open: b->-bleeped-<-ipes, closets and eardrums don't mix very well.

  Nfr


That pun deserves punishment. :icon_poke:

I don't remember my Myers-Briggs type except that it was more consistent with male than female.  Another clue that I was androgyne.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on February 07, 2008, 01:24:05 PM
Like others, I also can echo so many of the comments in this thread.
You may as well be describing me.


I have the feeling that people come to expect us to be mild mannered so much so that when we express anger it often comes across wrong. We do not do it enough to express it as well as they do so it shocks them. Just as many things in life practice makes perfect, we lack the practice I guess. My anger comes across at about the same level as what they consider being aggravated except I make a big show of it. When others get angry, they are on a level than I can't even grasp, and that is not even the hot heads.

I do wonder if it is a coping mechanism or just us being calm due to our genetic makeup... Which came first, the chicken or the egg, probably just as hard to figure out. Were it a coping mechanism, we could adapt and more easily fit in when we get angry, then again, we also have adapted ourselves to fit society and as usual I just talked myself into a circle.  :eusa_wall:




As for that army...
Something to ponder. With us being so mild mannered would an androgyne army ever actually accomplish anything?

Oh, and I could do the pipes if needed.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on February 07, 2008, 01:31:56 PM
Quote from: sd on February 07, 2008, 01:24:05 PM

As for that army...
Something to ponder. With us being so mild mannered would an androgyne army ever actually accomplish anything?

Oh, and I could do the pipes if needed.

If the androgyne army could accomplish peace, joyfulness, and freedom of being oneself... that'd be a good start  ;D

y2g
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 07, 2008, 02:56:21 PM

We could deliver food to the foodless and love to the loveless.

Shoes to the shoeless
booze to the boozeless (not)

guts to the gutless
pickles to the pickleless
price to the priceless
ice to the iceless
fear to the fearless
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on February 07, 2008, 03:31:32 PM
Hi Rebis, "hee, hee, hee," sounds funny but it makes a lot of sense. If we could to that no one would be without shoes or food to eat. I always wished I could win a lottery and do just that and personally deliver the goods to those who are in need personally. The Androgyne light warriors, These warriors carry swords of light that are used to right everything that's wrong in the world. What do you think of that?

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 08, 2008, 07:52:43 AM

Hi Cindy,

   That sounds good as long as no one gets blinded by a light sword.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on February 08, 2008, 08:25:10 AM
Quote from: cindybc on February 07, 2008, 03:31:32 PM
These warriors carry swords of light that are used to right everything that's wrong in the world. What do you think of that?

wouldn't that make us jedi?

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Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 08, 2008, 01:10:17 PM

those squirrels are wishy's worst nightmare.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on February 08, 2008, 01:38:53 PM
Wishy can relax, the squirrel bridge are working with us. I could always get her/he a suit of armor made of light.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on February 10, 2008, 12:19:34 AM
how did we go from faeries to squirrels with light sabers?  It's madness. Madness, I say!

I'll be a faerie, thank you very much. :icon_bunch: Delivering flowers to the flowerless.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on February 10, 2008, 01:35:20 AM
Why is it that every topic on the Androgynee board degenerates into a stand up comedy routine?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 10, 2008, 01:46:35 AM

We are walking jokes.
We have short attention spans.
We have little to no focus.

why did the androgyne cross the road?
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
to get to the punch line.

Posted on: February 10, 2008, 01:43:45 AM
Quote from: Nero on February 10, 2008, 01:35:20 AM
Why is it that every topic on the Androgynee board degenerates into a stand up comedy routine?
actually, I think you brought up an important point.

Does this bother you?   I'm asking seriously.  Sometimes when I'm cracking up at someone's post, I'm wondering if the binary people are cursing our existence.

I mean, how does it appear to others when we devolve into jokers?  Seriously.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on February 10, 2008, 02:03:22 AM
Quote from: Rebis on February 10, 2008, 01:46:35 AM

We are walking jokes.
We have short attention spans.
We have little to no focus.

why did the androgyne cross the road?
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
to get to the punch line.

Posted on: February 10, 2008, 01:43:45 AM
Quote from: Nero on February 10, 2008, 01:35:20 AM
Why is it that every topic on the Androgynee board degenerates into a stand up comedy routine?
actually, I think you brought up an important point.

Does this bother you?   I'm asking seriously.  Sometimes when I'm cracking up at someone's post, I'm wondering if the binary people are cursing our existence.

I mean, how does it appear to others when we devolve into jokers?  Seriously.

No, doesn't bother me. You all are adorable. I was just teasing. Kinda curious as to why androgynees have such a great sense of humour though.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 10, 2008, 02:07:05 AM
Quote from: Nero on February 10, 2008, 02:03:22 AM
No, doesn't bother me. You all are adorable. I was just teasing. Kinda curious as to why androgynees have such a great sense of humour though.
It is one of our traits.  It's why we need to fund a serious study on who we are.

Sometimes, for me, humor is the only way I have of gently touching another human being.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on February 10, 2008, 03:50:01 AM
Well you have a ->-bleeped-<- here that loves to have a good belly laughs. That's the problem with this world, wayyyyyyyyyy to serious. I come here to get a rest from the mundane.

Hi Jaimey will this one do?

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Cindy



Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on February 10, 2008, 03:52:42 AM
Quote from: Nero on February 10, 2008, 02:03:22 AM
No, doesn't bother me. You all are adorable. I was just teasing. Kinda curious as to why androgynees have such a great sense of humour though.

If you cannot laugh at yourself...

You could say we were handed a joke, and a free sense of humor came with it.


Of course there is always the option of a sniper rifle and a watertower...
While, I prefer humor, I haven't ruled out the watertower just yet. ;)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Seshatneferw on February 10, 2008, 07:01:57 AM
Quote from: Nero on February 10, 2008, 01:35:20 AM
Why is it that every topic on the Androgynee board degenerates into a stand up comedy routine?

Because we don't take anything seriously?

Like Rebis said, you brought up an important point. I think this ease of falling back to humour is in some ways related to our condition. A defense mechanism against people laughing at us? Something that enables us to live with our gender issues? Whatever it is, your observation suggests that there is a connection.

Androgyne -- come for the gender issues, stay for the laughs!

  Nfr
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on February 10, 2008, 09:03:23 AM
Quote from: Nero on February 10, 2008, 01:35:20 AM
Why is it that every topic on the Androgynee board degenerates into a stand up comedy routine?

If I didn't have a sense of humor about my gender issues, etc., I probably would have have ended up in a locked ward talking to myself...

y2g
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on February 10, 2008, 09:06:06 AM
Quote from: y2gender on February 10, 2008, 09:03:23 AM
Quote from: Nero on February 10, 2008, 01:35:20 AM
Why is it that every topic on the Androgynee board degenerates into a stand up comedy routine?

If I didn't have a sense of humor about my gender issues, etc., I probably would have have ended up in a locked ward talking to myself...

y2g

awww I was just teasing, Z.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Simone Louise on February 10, 2008, 11:08:37 AM
I frequently talk to myself, and sometimes lock myself OUT. What passes for a sense of humor is merely of function of my mind being wired differently, plus I get distracted easily.

My wife was lying on my chest, complaining it is too bony, wishing it were more pillowy. Me too. Finasteride works slowly, should do the real hormone treatment. Oops, body disphoria is the other topic.

What were we talking about, an even temperament? As a kid, I would react with anger and violence. I didn't like that, and consciously effected a change over the years. I learned that if I didn't accept what I couldn't change with a bit of resignation and a sense of humor, a migraine would stop me dead in my tracks. Transforming myself from city boy to farmer, and quickly failing financially, transformed me in other ways, too. I no longer experience the pain and nausea, just the aura and sometimes the inability to express myself in words. As I learn to accept myself and my weird wiring, I find I can more easily see other viewpoints and find humor in the ways of the world. Did I say I could accept myself--oh well.

A good week, a week of peace,
Simone
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on February 10, 2008, 05:51:10 PM
Hi I would be in the same bug house sitting next to you y2gender. I love humor. Actually it was the use of humor that helped me throughout the twenty years I worked as a social worker. Well I may have been the culprit that started the stand up comedy stuff a couple of times already. Anyway I guess that was what made me fall in love with you guys to begin with.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: NickSister on February 10, 2008, 06:30:33 PM
I think it is a really interesting and valid question even if you were not being too serious Nero. It can take an external observer to see what is probably obvious. Now that you have pointed these things out I think many of us Androgynes can really relate to your comments (whether true or not... :P).

I have a feeling that many of us use humor as a universal way of relating to all other people. When you don't quite relate to women as a woman or to men as a man then maybe one of the things we all have in common is humor?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 11, 2008, 10:13:52 AM

Last night I asked the people in my support group if they ever have times when they can't answer the question - "who, or what, are you?"

They couldn't understand what I meant.  I tried to explain further, but no one said they had that issue.

Of course, I had to make it a point to declare that I'm not insane.  Just different.   :P

I'm sitting here, not knowing who I am, but I'm okay.  It's just me.  It's just my way.   :P

Nothing to see here.  Be on your way.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Ell on February 11, 2008, 01:41:12 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 11, 2008, 10:13:52 AM
I'm sitting here, not knowing who I am, but I'm okay.

You'll always be Rebecca to me.

-ellie
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 11, 2008, 01:43:18 PM

Thank you, Sweetheart.     :)


(I almost wrote "Sweatheart".  Yuck.)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: NickSister on February 11, 2008, 01:54:30 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 11, 2008, 01:43:18 PM
(I almost wrote "Sweatheart".  Yuck.)

mmm salty
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on February 11, 2008, 02:52:08 PM
Hi Rebis, Rebecca? Wow how neat, nice to meet you Rebecca. Cindy in her elegant sparkly white gown, curtsies gracefully to Rebecca like a ballerina at the end of her performance.

Cindy
The Fairy

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Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 11, 2008, 04:05:32 PM

Hi Cindy.   :)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on February 11, 2008, 08:10:18 PM
Quote from: Nero on February 10, 2008, 01:35:20 AM
Why is it that every topic on the Androgynee board degenerates into a stand up comedy routine?

A serious answer to your not-so-serious question, I can't be serious for very long.  In some ways, I think it could be a response to our environments.  But I also think it fits in well (you all are probably sick of reading this) with the childlike nature that a lot of us have.  I honestly CANNOT be serious.  It's not even a choice.  If things stay serious for very long, I either get bored or fed up and I lose my focus.  I'd rather make jokes and laugh than to focus on something that isn't enjoyable.

Besides laughter is healthy...and there's nothing more fun than hijacking a thread.  >:D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on February 11, 2008, 08:33:46 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on February 11, 2008, 08:10:18 PM
Besides laughter is healthy...and there's nothing more fun than hijacking a thread.  >:D

Jaimey,

I should warn you that the punishment for thread hijacking is.... oh never mind, I'll help... where are we taking this thread anyway?  >:D

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on February 11, 2008, 08:37:21 PM
Is it the same punishment for bad puns or saying p**ps? 

Uh oh...I said a bad word! :icon_censored:


Hmmm...where indeed?  I'll do my best NOT to stray to the gutter, but no promises...

We're thread terrorists...
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on February 11, 2008, 09:06:56 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on February 11, 2008, 08:37:21 PM
Is it the same punishment for bad puns or saying p**ps? 

Uh oh...I said a bad word! :icon_censored:

Oh no Jaimey, you said it!!  >:D

I hope Reeb didn't hear you.... uh oh, watch out, here zie comes  :icon_chainsaw:

:P :P :P

y2g

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on February 11, 2008, 09:13:45 PM
Well now child like huh? I don't neva wants to grows up. See, see Senorita. Me ride piggyback on Rebi's shoulders and proceeds to bop him/her on the back of the head with her sucker. Cindy stops whacking Rebis on the back of the head and looks at all the hair on her sucker and non ceremoniously sticks it in her mouth.  I like telling story lines too. yep, a little bit of that too ;D

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on February 11, 2008, 09:21:31 PM
Quote from: y2gender on February 11, 2008, 09:06:56 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on February 11, 2008, 08:37:21 PM
Is it the same punishment for bad puns or saying p**ps? 

Uh oh...I said a bad word! :icon_censored:

Oh no Jaimey, you said it!!  >:D

I hope Reeb didn't hear you.... uh oh, watch out, here zie comes  :icon_chainsaw:

:P :P :P

y2g



*Jaimey prepares for the beating*  :icon_yikes:

:icon_silenced: *loses speaking privileges*
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Seshatneferw on February 12, 2008, 03:56:32 AM
Quote from: y2gender on February 11, 2008, 08:33:46 PM
I should warn you that the punishment for thread hijacking is.... oh never mind, I'll help... where are we taking this thread anyway?  >:D

Sorry, too late. Since this forum is hosted on a US-based server, by decree of the current administration there will be armed thought police on every thread.  :icon_2gun: :icon_pistoles:

  Nfr
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 12, 2008, 08:12:42 AM
Quote from: y2gender on February 11, 2008, 09:06:56 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on February 11, 2008, 08:37:21 PM
Is it the same punishment for bad puns or saying p**ps? 

Uh oh...I said a bad word! :icon_censored:

Oh no Jaimey, you said it!!  >:D

I hope Reeb didn't hear you.... uh oh, watch out, here zie comes  :icon_chainsaw:

:P :P :P

y2g
As a matter of fact, I did hear it.

I'm taking this thread to Cuba.

Posted on: February 12, 2008, 07:48:57 AM
Quote from: Seshatneferw on February 12, 2008, 03:56:32 AM
Quote from: y2gender on February 11, 2008, 08:33:46 PM
I should warn you that the punishment for thread hijacking is.... oh never mind, I'll help... where are we taking this thread anyway?  >:D

Sorry, too late. Since this forum is hosted on a US-based server, by decree of the current administration there will be armed thought police on every thread.  :icon_2gun: :icon_pistoles:

  Nfr
Armed with everything but thoughts.    :police:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Seshatneferw on February 12, 2008, 09:37:47 AM
Quote from: Rebis on February 12, 2008, 08:12:42 AM
Armed with everything but thoughts.    :police:

But of course. How else could they police them impartially?

(Incidentallly, and totally irrelevant to the rest of this thread, I'm quite thoroughly baffled as to why Mr. Bush &co want to have RAF top brass on all transatlantic flights.)

  Nfr
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 12, 2008, 09:58:18 AM
Quote from: Seshatneferw on February 12, 2008, 09:37:47 AM
Quote from: Rebis on February 12, 2008, 08:12:42 AM
Armed with everything but thoughts.    :police:

But of course. How else could they police them impartially?

(Incidentallly, and totally irrelevant to the rest of this thread, I'm quite thoroughly baffled as to why Mr. Bush &co want to have RAF top brass on all transatlantic flights.)

  Nfr

It's their way of putting those people in danger so if anything happens to them, it will be easier to invade Britain.

Also, Bush stinks and lacks human intelligence.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Ell on February 12, 2008, 12:13:00 PM
Quote from: cindybc on February 11, 2008, 09:13:45 PM
Cindy stops whacking Rebis on the back of the head and looks at all the hair on her sucker and non ceremoniously sticks it in her mouth.

Cindy

Ha ha! that's cute.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on February 12, 2008, 12:13:36 PM
Quote from: Seshatneferw on February 12, 2008, 03:56:32 AM
Sorry, too late. Since this forum is hosted on a US-based server, by decree of the current administration there will be armed thought police on every thread. 
This is why I wear a tinfoil hat.
Who's laughing now!
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Seshatneferw on February 12, 2008, 01:11:53 PM
You did make your own tin foil, I trust -- the commercial foil is made to specs provided by Homeland Security.

  Nfr
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on February 12, 2008, 01:22:18 PM
Quote from: Seshatneferw on February 12, 2008, 01:11:53 PM
You did make your own tin foil, I trust -- the commercial foil is made to specs provided by Homeland Security.

  Nfr

Awww, son of a...
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on February 12, 2008, 02:46:12 PM
hehehe...and all because of a little word that rhymes with 'beeps'...hehehe
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 12, 2008, 03:13:59 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on February 12, 2008, 02:46:12 PM
hehehe...and all because of a little word that rhymes with 'beeps'...hehehe

I'm watching you -  >:(
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on February 12, 2008, 03:22:58 PM
peeps peeps peeps peeps peeps
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on February 12, 2008, 04:13:09 PM
??? I think I missed something.

I turned right and the topic went left.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on February 12, 2008, 04:34:39 PM
I don't need a tin foil hat, it would interfere with my antennas at the back of my head. You guys quack me up. "Quack, quack." darn rubber duck under my chair.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 12, 2008, 04:50:39 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on February 11, 2008, 09:21:31 PM
Quote from: y2gender on February 11, 2008, 09:06:56 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on February 11, 2008, 08:37:21 PM
Is it the same punishment for bad puns or saying p**ps? 

Uh oh...I said a bad word! :icon_censored:

Oh no Jaimey, you said it!!  >:D

I hope Reeb didn't hear you.... uh oh, watch out, here zie comes  :icon_chainsaw:

:P :P :P

y2g



*Jaimey prepares for the beating*  :icon_yikes:

:icon_silenced: *loses speaking privileges*

hands jaimey a  steel chair and tells her to use it on them  >:D >:D speaking privileges  are now

REINSTATED ! >:D >:D >:D >:D  btw i got to say you all are way too much i love it i love it :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Posted on: February 12, 2008, 05:46:14 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on February 11, 2008, 08:37:21 PM
Is it the same punishment for bad puns or saying p**ps? 

Uh oh...I said a bad word! :icon_censored:


Hmmm...where indeed?  I'll do my best NOT to stray to the gutter, but no promises...

We're thread terrorists...

HUMMM  VERY INTERESTING  now i feel like a time of deep thought is need here  >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on February 12, 2008, 05:38:30 PM
peeps is a forbidden word
you must not say peeps
people who type peeps are bad peeps
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on February 12, 2008, 05:46:56 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on February 12, 2008, 05:38:30 PM
peeps is a forbidden word
you must not say peeps
people who type peeps are bad peeps
Must be something from before my time here.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on February 12, 2008, 05:54:34 PM
peeps has, is and will always be bad
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 12, 2008, 06:23:11 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on February 12, 2008, 05:38:30 PM
peeps is a forbidden word
you must not say peeps
people who type peeps are bad peeps

oh no pica pica you typed that bad word looks around for rebis  or nichole to show up  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on February 12, 2008, 07:08:53 PM
I use to go to a sci-fy board based in the UK the word peeps and the word bugger are used a lot

Well it don't mater, I really liked this realy nice guy who used the word bugger a lot was a really nice guy. I had also made friends with one of the girls there, she went by the user name *Princess Ivy* I helped her through a divorce from her abusive husband. So ya I'm familiar with some of the UK expressions.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 12, 2008, 10:30:19 PM

All right.  That does it.  I'm watching all of you!!   >:(


I'll start using words that bother you.   What are they?

One more word out of any of you and there'll be no television after dinner for a week.

Now be quiet and go to sleep.


Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on February 12, 2008, 10:54:28 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 12, 2008, 10:30:19 PM

All right.  That does it.  I'm watching all of you!!   >:(


I'll start using words that bother you.   What are they?

One more word out of any of you and there'll be no television after dinner for a week.

Now be quiet and go to sleep.




You heard the Reeb, not one p__p out of anyone  >:D

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 12, 2008, 11:01:54 PM

I came so close to saying that phrase.  I have shamed myself (amongst other things).
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Seshatneferw on February 13, 2008, 03:56:34 AM
(Rebis hides in shame and peeps out at the rest of us.)

  Nfr
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on February 13, 2008, 05:59:11 AM
Hi if Rebis wants to hide, I know a good place for him to hide. He can always crawl under the rock and take care of my little critter whose eyes shine in the dark. Then I'll have two pairs of eyes shining in the dark

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on February 13, 2008, 06:17:54 AM
Quote from: Rebis on February 12, 2008, 11:01:54 PM

I came so close to saying that phrase.  I have shamed myself (amongst other things).

other things?? do we need to get a mop?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 13, 2008, 07:18:03 AM
Quote from: y2gender on February 12, 2008, 10:54:28 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 12, 2008, 10:30:19 PM

All right.  That does it.  I'm watching all of you!!   >:(


I'll start using words that bother you.   What are they?

One more word out of any of you and there'll be no television after dinner for a week.

Now be quiet and go to sleep.




You heard the Reeb, not one p__p out of anyone  >:D

Z


too late :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 13, 2008, 08:19:24 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on February 13, 2008, 06:17:54 AM
Quote from: Rebis on February 12, 2008, 11:01:54 PM

I came so close to saying that phrase.  I have shamed myself (amongst other things).

other things?? do we need to get a mop?
several of them.
apparently, I carry a big load.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on February 13, 2008, 08:30:21 AM
Peeps

Peeps

Peeps

Peeps

Peeps

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 13, 2008, 09:15:42 AM

If I get my hands on you, I'm going to break that word over your head.   >:(

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on February 13, 2008, 09:18:46 AM
Don't worry, I won't make another... peep.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 13, 2008, 09:20:12 AM
Now that I've threatened everyone, I guess the topic of this thread is invalid.

We still didn't see any messages from tough androgynes either. the cowards.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 13, 2008, 09:25:55 AM

my teeth just rotted out.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on February 13, 2008, 10:09:36 AM
Quote from: Renate on February 13, 2008, 09:25:10 AM
I won't say a ...

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.chron.com%2Fwhitehouse%2Farchives%2Fpeeps.jpg&hash=8434e734c7fe58ad5c87c8e0c2e42e3421bde177)

Renate

OMG, those might be the absolute worst candies ever created!!!! Ick!!! :P

y2g
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on February 13, 2008, 03:26:53 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 13, 2008, 09:20:12 AM
Now that I've threatened everyone, I guess the topic of this thread is invalid.

We still didn't see any messages from tough androgynes either. the cowards.

Of course it got side tracked, did you really expected anything else from us?

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Seshatneferw on February 13, 2008, 03:43:39 PM
No, no, we are just getting to the point of realising how we were right on track all along. Showing how much we had to tease Rebis to get that angry peep out of em proves that we really are pretty mild and mellow. Even Rebis. :)

  Nfr
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 13, 2008, 05:57:25 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 13, 2008, 09:15:42 AM

If I get my hands on you, I'm going to break that word over your head.   >:(



oh rebis  NANANANA  you cant catch me  even if i wear my 5 inch heels hehehe  dand btw rebis dear  ummm

PEEP peep PEEEP  peep catch me rebis if you think you can  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on February 13, 2008, 08:18:17 PM
I started something bad...hehehe. I'm evil.  :icon_twisted:

actually...i think this does show how mild of temperament we are!  look...I even remembered what the topic was about!




...i feel like i'm being watched... :icon_nervious:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 13, 2008, 08:24:36 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on February 13, 2008, 08:18:17 PM
I started something bad...hehehe. I'm evil.  :icon_twisted:

actually...i think this does show how mild of temperament we are!  look...I even remembered what the topic was about!




...i feel like i'm being watched... :icon_nervious:


sorry about that jaimey hun  . i ddi not mean to do that . i just got here lol. but your the good kinda of

evil  and jaimey your too much  ;D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on February 13, 2008, 08:27:14 PM
thanks...i am the good kind of  :icon_twisted:

;D <--s**t-eatin' grin

*randomly breaks out in song*
androgynes just wanna have fun, oh androgynes just wanna have fun!
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 13, 2008, 08:28:24 PM
I like how everyone ignored my blustering.    :)




ps

Jaimey's evil.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 13, 2008, 08:29:17 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on February 13, 2008, 08:27:14 PM
thanks...i am the good kind of  :icon_twisted:

;D <--s**t-eatin' grin

*randomly breaks out in song*
androgynes just wanna have fun, oh androgynes just wanna have fun!

as it should be jaimey hun as it should be that way  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on February 13, 2008, 08:30:21 PM
aw, we weren't ignoring you!  i thought your blustering was cute! (but I like to tease people...it's a sign of love! :P)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 13, 2008, 08:31:11 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 13, 2008, 08:28:24 PM
I like how everyone ignored my blustering.    :)




ps

Jaimey's evil.

oh i ant ignoring you at all rebis  not at all  >:D ;D  p.s. thats a good thing jaimey is  ;D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 13, 2008, 08:34:26 PM
I just think it's funny that no one feared my great powers of fake anger.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 13, 2008, 08:37:54 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 13, 2008, 08:34:26 PM
I just think it's funny that no one feared my great powers of fake anger.

indeed rebis dear indeed at lest untill you maybe um look around  some where maybe  :eusa_whistle: :eusa_whistle:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on February 13, 2008, 08:40:40 PM
It's because we know that you are such a warm, wonderful person with a beautiful heart who would never really get angry at us for teasing you.  :icon_flower:  We LOVE our Rebis!  :icon_love:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 13, 2008, 08:41:49 PM
Thanks.  I love all of you too.


I guess it's a good time to tell you all I'm pregnant.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 13, 2008, 08:47:44 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 13, 2008, 08:41:49 PM
Thanks.  I love all of you too.


I guess it's a good time to tell you all I'm pregnant.

i love u too rebis   and ok . but i did not get you like that so  you cant blame me  yet  :laugh: :laugh: >:D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 13, 2008, 08:50:54 PM

well, if it's not you, then who?

I always thought that when people love each other, they get pregnant together.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on February 13, 2008, 08:52:43 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 13, 2008, 08:41:49 PM
Thanks.  I love all of you too.


I guess it's a good time to tell you all I'm pregnant.


...are you the mother or the father?  or is there an androgyne alternative?   :P
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 13, 2008, 08:53:41 PM

it's called 'victim'.   :P
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 13, 2008, 08:57:46 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 13, 2008, 08:50:54 PM

well, if it's not you, then who?

I always thought that when people love each other, they get pregnant together.

oh sigh rebis hun they do and  well um maybe we need a test to see maybe?? if it is or is not me ;) ;D

yes i know iam  so very bad  >:D >:D >:D >:D

Posted on: February 13, 2008, 09:56:03 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 13, 2008, 08:53:41 PM

it's called 'victim'.   :P

yes you are rebis and uyou can get a way from me   :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on February 13, 2008, 08:58:37 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 13, 2008, 08:28:24 PM
I like how everyone ignored my blustering.    :)

We didn't ignore you.... we were using reverse psychology hehe >:D

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 13, 2008, 08:58:37 PM
Debbie!!!

Yes you are bad!    How dare you try to insinuate you didn't do this to me?


    :'(



"We didn't ignore you.... we were using reverse psychology hehe"

How can you reverse what is backwards to begin with?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 13, 2008, 08:59:57 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 13, 2008, 08:58:37 PM

Yes you are bad!    How dare you try to insinuate you didn't do this to me?


    :'(

aww iam sorry  i did not mean too  :'( forgive me???
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 13, 2008, 09:01:02 PM
Quote from: debbie.j on February 13, 2008, 08:59:57 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 13, 2008, 08:58:37 PM

Yes you are bad!    How dare you try to insinuate you didn't do this to me?


    :'(
aww iam sorry  i did not mean too  :'( forgive me???
Okay.  Now let's discuss child support.  Heh heh
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on February 13, 2008, 09:01:08 PM
hehehehe....i don't even know what to say...this is too funny!  i'll take responsibility!  I DID IT!!! HAHAHA!  >:D

Did you forget about that androgyne army we're creating?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 13, 2008, 09:01:21 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 13, 2008, 08:58:37 PM
Debbie!!!

Yes you are bad!    How dare you try to insinuate you didn't do this to me?


    :'(



"We didn't ignore you.... we were using reverse psychology hehe"

How can you reverse what is backwards to begin with?

it can be very easly done if you know what your doing . and well this female knows what shes does  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on February 13, 2008, 09:01:33 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 13, 2008, 08:41:49 PM
Thanks.  I love all of you too.


I guess it's a good time to tell you all I'm pregnant.

Congrats!

Now, does one offer an androgyne a cigar, or ice cream and pickles, or what???  :-\

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 13, 2008, 09:02:46 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on February 13, 2008, 09:01:08 PM
hehehehe....i don't even know what to say...this is too funny!  i'll take responsibility!  I DID IT!!! HAHAHA!  >:D

Did you forget about that androgyne army we're creating?
That's right.  The army.

I almost forgot.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on February 13, 2008, 09:04:54 PM
i don't have any money for child support though...deadbeat androgyne.  :-\
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 13, 2008, 09:05:01 PM
Quote from: y2gender on February 13, 2008, 09:01:33 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 13, 2008, 08:41:49 PM
Thanks.  I love all of you too.


I guess it's a good time to tell you all I'm pregnant.

Congrats!

Now, does one offer an androgyne a cigar, or ice cream and pickles, or what???  :-\

Z
The pickles, the cigar, and the ice cream are what got me into this situation.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 13, 2008, 09:08:08 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 13, 2008, 09:02:46 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on February 13, 2008, 09:01:08 PM
hehehehe....i don't even know what to say...this is too funny!  i'll take responsibility!  I DID IT!!! HAHAHA!  >:D

Did you forget about that androgyne army we're creating?
That's right.  The army.

I almost forgot.

some how iam sure that wont last for much longer  tho call it a feeling  ;) :laugh:

Posted on: February 13, 2008, 10:06:19 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 13, 2008, 09:05:01 PM
Quote from: y2gender on February 13, 2008, 09:01:33 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 13, 2008, 08:41:49 PM
Thanks.  I love all of you too.


I guess it's a good time to tell you all I'm pregnant.

Congrats!

Now, does one offer an androgyne a cigar, or ice cream and pickles, or what???  :-\

Z
The pickles, the cigar, and the ice cream are what got me into this situation.

what gotyou into this  situation was me  >:D >:D and i have no regerts at all >:D >:D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 13, 2008, 09:12:11 PM
we need an army to protect us from our navy.

This is important.


Vote for my sleeves.


(Hi.  I'm Rebis's shirt's collar and I approve this message)

Posted on: February 13, 2008, 09:09:04 PM
Quote from: debbie.j on February 13, 2008, 09:08:08 PM
Quote from: y2gender on February 13, 2008, 09:01:33 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 13, 2008, 08:41:49 PM
Thanks.  I love all of you too.


I guess it's a good time to tell you all I'm pregnant.
Congrats!

Now, does one offer an androgyne a cigar, or ice cream and pickles, or what???  :-\

Z
The pickles, the cigar, and the ice cream are what got me into this situation.
what gotyou into this  situation was me  >:D >:D and i have no regerts at all >:D >:D
[/quote]
My mother told me to stay away from gender variants like you.  But I wouldn't listen.   
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on February 13, 2008, 09:12:38 PM
does the navy have seamen?  >:D

...

I apologize.  I couldn't stop myself.  *washes hands off with soap* (because I'm typing...er, right)

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 13, 2008, 09:16:06 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on February 13, 2008, 09:12:38 PM
does the navy have seamen?  >:D

...

I apologize.  I couldn't stop myself.  *washes hands off with soap* (because I'm typing...er, right)
The answer to your question is yes.  and they leave stains everywhere they go.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on February 13, 2008, 09:17:22 PM
I thought I was the only pregnant Hobbit around here. Well that's what you get letting Wing Walker fly the biplane upside down. Wing Walker asks, and whom do you suspect.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on February 13, 2008, 09:18:53 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 13, 2008, 09:16:06 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on February 13, 2008, 09:12:38 PM
does the navy have seamen?  >:D

...

I apologize.  I couldn't stop myself.  *washes hands off with soap* (because I'm typing...er, right)
The answer to your question is yes.  and they leave stains everywhere they go.

ooo...and I thought I was bad!
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 13, 2008, 09:20:37 PM

I suspect everybody.  There are no innocents in this matter.  And, if I have to, I will carry this baby until I found out who wants to take it from me so I don't have to change diapers.

It just occurred to me that it's possible the seamen are behind this.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 13, 2008, 09:26:38 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 13, 2008, 09:20:37 PM

I suspect everybody.  There are no innocents in this matter.  And, if I have to, I will carry this baby until I found out who wants to take it from me so I don't have to change diapers.

It just occurred to me that it's possible the seamen are behind this.

i never said i was inocent  :P and changeing  diapers rebis hun is partof takeing care of a child  :)

and na am sure they did not have a thing to do with this  ;) >:D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on February 13, 2008, 09:28:26 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 13, 2008, 09:20:37 PM
It just occurred to me that it's possible the seamen are behind this.

they usually are. >:D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Simone Louise on February 13, 2008, 09:48:27 PM
I have some experience diapering, and my youngest is off to college in the fall, so this young androgyne could help fill the void. Or were you seeking a wet nurse to diaper and breast feed? By the time doctors could produce that miracle, the babe would be weaned. And I'd be left with wet spots on my blouse.

Congratulations,
Simone
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: buttercup on February 14, 2008, 12:10:11 AM
 :icon_drunk:

Congrats Rebis, I'll hand out cigars at the birth of this beautiful baby.
Hey, this could make a great film, " Many Androgynes and a baby!"   Catchy title.  :icon_dance:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on February 14, 2008, 04:01:30 AM
I want to teach important life lessons like running across the road, and eating too many sweets,
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on February 14, 2008, 04:24:23 AM
Hi Rebis. Seriously I diapered 11 kids through the years so I guess that makes me a professional diaper changer. Need a baby siter?

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on February 14, 2008, 09:22:38 AM
no. just someone to change him
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 14, 2008, 10:38:26 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on February 14, 2008, 09:22:38 AM
no. just someone to change him
you mean, it.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on February 14, 2008, 11:19:29 AM
i could never call you it, him or her or them or 'em, but never it.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Seshatneferw on February 14, 2008, 01:15:07 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on February 14, 2008, 09:22:38 AM
no. just someone to change him

into her and then back again, every half an hour or so?

Oh, not that it makes any difference, but are you talking about Rebis or the kid?

  Nfr
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on February 14, 2008, 01:49:56 PM
" Many Androgynes and a baby!"
That does sound like the makings of a really good movie, I can see it in my mind already.
Rebis when it comes to babies and young children I always mean what I say. I love children and if another opportunity came along to once more have children in my care, I would not hesitate.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 14, 2008, 03:37:21 PM

yeah, are we talking about me or the baby.  I was talking about the baby, but it sounds like Pica was talking about me.


I'm going to go out and collect babies so I can send them to Cindy.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Seshatneferw on February 14, 2008, 03:42:33 PM
Watch out for the parents.

  Nfr
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 14, 2008, 03:47:31 PM

No problem.  I'll get a taser and some mace.  Then I'll figure out some way to handle the parents too.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on February 14, 2008, 03:51:12 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 14, 2008, 03:37:21 PM
yeah, are we talking about me or the baby.  I was talking about the baby, but it sounds like Pica was talking about me.

These things can happen w/ communication on message boards...

Now what were we talking about? Oh yeah, marshmellow baby p____ps  >:D

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 14, 2008, 03:56:31 PM
Quote from: Zythyra on February 14, 2008, 03:51:12 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 14, 2008, 03:37:21 PM
yeah, are we talking about me or the baby.  I was talking about the baby, but it sounds like Pica was talking about me.

These things can happen w/ communication on message boards...

Now what were we talking about? Oh yeah, marshmellow baby p____ps  >:D

Z

marshmellow baby oh dear this has really take a trun ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on February 14, 2008, 04:37:30 PM
Quote from: debbie.j on February 14, 2008, 03:56:31 PM
marshmellow baby oh dear this has really take a trun ::) ::) ::) ::)

See below message back on page 6  :P

Quote from: Renate on February 13, 2008, 09:25:10 AM
I won't say a ...

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Renate

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 14, 2008, 04:39:57 PM
Quote from: Zythyra on February 14, 2008, 04:37:30 PM
Quote from: debbie.j on February 14, 2008, 03:56:31 PM
marshmellow baby oh dear this has really take a trun ::) ::) ::) ::)

See below message back on page 6  :P

Quote from: Renate on February 13, 2008, 09:25:10 AM
I won't say a ...

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Renate



:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:Zythyra no neeed to go back to page 6 since you posted that :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: buttercup on February 14, 2008, 04:44:54 PM
You PEEPS crack me up!!  It's great having a whole bunch of PEEPS on the same wave length, cause most PEEPS get lost in the confusion, but not us PEEPS, we are the PEEPS of non-muddleheadedness!!  Wow, is that even a word???  ;D

Posted on: February 15, 2008, 07:43:54 AM
That's right Cindy, Babies rule!!!!  :)    :)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 14, 2008, 04:46:19 PM
Quote from: buttercup on February 14, 2008, 04:44:54 PM
You PEEPS crack me up!!  It's great having a whole bunch of PEEPS on the same wave length, cause most PEEPS get lost in the confusion, but not us PEEPS, we are the PEEPS of non-muddleheadedness!!  Wow, is that even a word???  ;D

Posted on: February 15, 2008, 07:43:54 AM
That's right Cindy, Babies rule!!!!  :)    :)

buttercup hun your too much  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on February 14, 2008, 09:27:33 PM
lawd'a'mercy, everybody on this page done gone crazy!





(...jaimey's a little  :icon_drunk:)




WHO SAID PEEPS!??!  LET THE PISTOL WHIPPINGS COMMENCE!  :icon_pistoles:   


:icon_weee:



....waitaminute....was it me?  AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!! 

MUWAHAHAHAHAHA!
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 14, 2008, 10:04:23 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on February 14, 2008, 09:27:33 PM
lawd'a'mercy, everybody on this page done gone crazy!





(...jaimey's a little  :icon_drunk:)




WHO SAID PEEPS!??!  LET THE PISTOL WHIPPINGS COMMENCE!  :icon_pistoles:   


:icon_weee:



....waitaminute....was it me?  AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!! 

MUWAHAHAHAHAHA!

oh noooo   it was not me peeps  PEEPS peeps  and jaimeys  :icon_drunk: goes looking for a rock to get

under with my bottle of  :icon_pepsi:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: buttercup on February 14, 2008, 10:24:36 PM
Quote from: debbie.j on February 14, 2008, 10:04:23 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on February 14, 2008, 09:27:33 PM
lawd'a'mercy, everybody on this page done gone crazy!





(...jaimey's a little  :icon_drunk:)




WHO SAID PEEPS!??!  LET THE PISTOL WHIPPINGS COMMENCE!  :icon_pistoles:   


:icon_weee:



....waitaminute....was it me?  AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!! 

MUWAHAHAHAHAHA!

oh noooo   it was not me peeps  PEEPS peeps  and jaimeys  :icon_drunk: goes looking for a rock to get

under with my bottle of  :icon_pepsi:



:icon_doh:  Yep the PEEP Police are gonna get us!!  :police:   :police:   :police:   :police:
Has anyone got a getaway car, cause mines in the repair shop.  :(
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on February 14, 2008, 10:31:08 PM
I'm starting to wonder if we should split off and start a new thread, "P__ps who say p__ps". Anytime a person wanted to say the unmentionable word, they could just visit that thread, then all other threads would remain untarnished.  ;) >:D

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 14, 2008, 10:34:21 PM
Quote from: Zythyra on February 14, 2008, 10:31:08 PM
I'm starting to wonder if we should split off and start a new thread, "P__ps who say p__ps". Anytime a person wanted to say the unmentionable word, they could just visit that thread, then all other threads would remain untarnished.  ;) >:D

Z

Zythyra i think its a little to late for that maybe :P

Posted on: February 14, 2008, 11:32:57 PM
Quote from: buttercup on February 14, 2008, 10:24:36 PM
Quote from: debbie.j on February 14, 2008, 10:04:23 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on February 14, 2008, 09:27:33 PM
lawd'a'mercy, everybody on this page done gone crazy!





(...jaimey's a little  :icon_drunk:)




WHO SAID PEEPS!??!  LET THE PISTOL WHIPPINGS COMMENCE!  :icon_pistoles:   


:icon_weee:



....waitaminute....was it me?  AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!! 

MUWAHAHAHAHAHA!

oh noooo   it was not me peeps  PEEPS peeps  and jaimeys  :icon_drunk: goes looking for a rock to get

under with my bottle of  :icon_pepsi:



:icon_doh:  Yep the PEEP Police are gonna get us!!  :police:   :police:   :police:   :police:
Has anyone got a getaway car, cause mines in the repair shop.  :(

eep i can not get a car but i can get us a bus  butter cup ;D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on February 14, 2008, 10:38:54 PM
Quote from: debbie.j on February 14, 2008, 10:34:21 PM
Quote from: Zythyra on February 14, 2008, 10:31:08 PM
I'm starting to wonder if we should split off and start a new thread, "P__ps who say p__ps". Anytime a person wanted to say the unmentionable word, they could just visit that thread, then all other threads would remain untarnished.  ;) >:D

Z

Zythyra i think its a little to late for that maybe :P

Yes Debbie, I think you're right. Perhaps we should just rename this thread ;)  :P

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 14, 2008, 10:43:24 PM
Quote from: Zythyra on February 14, 2008, 10:38:54 PM
Quote from: debbie.j on February 14, 2008, 10:34:21 PM
Quote from: Zythyra on February 14, 2008, 10:31:08 PM
I'm starting to wonder if we should split off and start a new thread, "P__ps who say p__ps". Anytime a person wanted to say the unmentionable word, they could just visit that thread, then all other threads would remain untarnished.  ;) >:D

Z

Zythyra i think its a little to late for that maybe :P

Yes Debbie, I think you're right. Perhaps we should just rename this thread ;)  :P

Z

hummmm  Zythyra that just might work out the best :). now only thing is we got to come up with a good

and fiting name for this topic tho . maybe some one has a good idea on a name for this eh?? :)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on February 14, 2008, 10:50:38 PM
Quote from: debbie.j on February 14, 2008, 10:43:24 PM

hummmm  Zythyra that just might work out the best :). now only thing is we got to come up with a good

and fiting name for this topic tho . maybe some one has a good idea on a name for this eh?? :)

"P__ps who say p__ps, and the p__ps who love them"

Or does that sound too much like a TV show?  :P

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 14, 2008, 10:54:46 PM
Quote from: Zythyra on February 14, 2008, 10:50:38 PM
Quote from: debbie.j on February 14, 2008, 10:43:24 PM

hummmm  Zythyra that just might work out the best :). now only thing is we got to come up with a good

and fiting name for this topic tho . maybe some one has a good idea on a name for this eh?? :)

"P__ps who say p__ps, and the p__ps who love them"

Or does that sound too much like a TV show?  :P

Z


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:Zythyra that sounds like it might work well  indeed and if it was a tv show

i think i would want to be the host of it . dont ask me why tho  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on February 15, 2008, 12:42:55 AM
Ok, who left the door to the sanitarium open again.:icon_suspicious:

Step forward and prepare for punishment.  :icon_bat:










:-*
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 15, 2008, 06:50:43 AM
Quote from: sd on February 15, 2008, 12:42:55 AM
Ok, who left the door to the sanitarium open again.:icon_suspicious:

Step forward and prepare for punishment.  :icon_bat:


:-*

i dont know  :eusa_whistle: :eusa_whistle: was not me  :eusa_whistle: :eusa_whistle:  btw peep PEEP peep

:laugh:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on February 15, 2008, 07:48:04 AM
Jeep?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 15, 2008, 08:12:19 AM

I've been inoculated.  heh heh
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 15, 2008, 08:56:10 AM
Quote from: Rebis on February 15, 2008, 08:12:19 AM

I've been inoculated.  heh heh


yea right sure you have what ever
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 15, 2008, 11:56:08 AM

I mean, I've been inoculated to seeing the evil word "peeps".   You won't catch me using it because I have class :laugh: , however, I've become impervious to everybody's attempts to drive me insane.

You all have to find a new way to torment me.  heh heh
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 15, 2008, 07:38:42 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 15, 2008, 11:56:08 AM

I mean, I've been inoculated to seeing the evil word "peeps".   You won't catch me using it because I have class :laugh: , however, I've become impervious to everybody's attempts to drive me insane.

You all have to find a new way to torment me.  heh heh

rebis you just love to tempet me dont you hummm sigh he wont hold out for long  >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on February 15, 2008, 08:29:52 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 15, 2008, 11:56:08 AM
You all have to find a new way to torment me.  heh heh

hehehe.  don't worry.  we will.  muwahahahaha!  (miraculously, i am not :icon_drunk: right now...give me a an hour...)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 15, 2008, 08:33:32 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on February 15, 2008, 08:29:52 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 15, 2008, 11:56:08 AM
You all have to find a new way to torment me.  heh heh

hehehe.  don't worry.  we will.  muwahahahaha!  (miraculously, i am not :icon_drunk: right now...give me a an hour...)

indeed we will jaimey  :laugh: and if you need it i got some fresh hot mashed potatoes and gravey to

make you feel better  ;) :)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on February 15, 2008, 08:52:41 PM
Quote from: debbie.j on February 15, 2008, 08:33:32 PMand if you need it i got some fresh hot mashed potatoes and gravey to make you feel better  ;) :)

ooo...comfort food.  YUM!
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 15, 2008, 09:02:48 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on February 15, 2008, 08:52:41 PM
Quote from: debbie.j on February 15, 2008, 08:33:32 PMand if you need it i got some fresh hot mashed potatoes and gravey to make you feel better  ;) :)

ooo...comfort food.  YUM!

indeed jaimey indeed and iam not sure if you  know this or not but it also helps you when you have had a

few  :icon_drunk: :icon_drunk: and yes it works very well too  ;) :)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on February 15, 2008, 09:11:22 PM
I've had a few and am getting a little:

[yt=425,350]v/iH-c8ubHCMs&rel[/yt]

A toast to all my pretty pets!
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 16, 2008, 09:09:28 AM
cheers to you too also nero  :icon_pepsi: :icon_pepsi: :)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Ell on February 16, 2008, 02:27:43 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 15, 2008, 08:12:19 AM
I've been inoculated.  heh heh


now, was that done scientifically in a lab, or au naturale?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on February 16, 2008, 11:18:00 PM

I don't know.  I was knocked unconscious.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Ell on February 16, 2008, 11:43:26 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 16, 2008, 11:18:00 PM
I don't know.  I was knocked unconscious.

oh. in that case, mostly likely both. classic case of alien abduction.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie.j on February 16, 2008, 11:47:56 PM
Quote from: ell on February 16, 2008, 11:43:26 PM
Quote from: Rebis on February 16, 2008, 11:18:00 PM
I don't know.  I was knocked unconscious.

oh. in that case, mostly likely both. classic case of alien abduction.

sounds like it dont it ell :P
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on February 17, 2008, 02:44:12 AM
Was it this ship? Rebis, having intimate relationship with aliens again?

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I wrote a story about this ship I named it Star-ship Empathatica

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on February 17, 2008, 05:10:14 AM
*Nero dons his space armour, jumps in his starship and scours the galaxy for his beloved Reebs.*
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on February 17, 2008, 06:47:24 PM
oh no!  Rebis has been abducted by aliens!  Were they alien p**ps?  >:D

Posted on: February 17, 2008, 06:46:48 PM
Quote from: Nero on February 17, 2008, 05:10:14 AM
*Nero dons his space armour, jumps in his starship and scours the galaxy for his beloved Reebs.*

are you a p**p, Nero?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Constance on March 03, 2008, 10:44:53 PM
In a way, I have 2 answers to this.

On my own, I am far from calm and cool. I rage. I curse.

But in my interactions with others, I'm usually a bit more passive and I always have been. I'm not entirely sure why. Perhaps I've been conditioned by the knowledge that I am/was different and therefore was lower in the pecking order? Don't know.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on March 05, 2008, 08:10:19 PM
Quote from: Shades O'Grey on March 03, 2008, 10:44:53 PM
In a way, I have 2 answers to this.

On my own, I am far from calm and cool. I rage. I curse.

But in my interactions with others, I'm usually a bit more passive and I always have been. I'm not entirely sure why. Perhaps I've been conditioned by the knowledge that I am/was different and therefore was lower in the pecking order? Don't know.


Me too.  I'm an oak (has anyone seen "Tombstone"? If not, ignore me...I'm just stoic) with others, but on my own I used to be anything but calm.  I'm a little more in control now.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 05, 2008, 09:03:49 PM

the paxil stole my soul
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 06, 2008, 02:46:19 AM
Lots of tomb stones on boot hill. I really don't know why they call it boot hill when they buried the stiffs still wearing their boot including their spurs. Or did they bury them with their boots and kept the spurs? Cindy whispers in the ears of her old gray mare. The mare shook her head in acknowledgment then whinnied. Once again off I went, riding my old grey mare towards the hills, hoping to make it before the sun set.

A light wind comes up and I could hear a whistling sound and stopped and dismounted then walked to the back of the mare. and as I had suspected, the wind was whistling through the bullet hole in the old grey mares butt. Incidentally, this was where the old grey mare picked up the nick name of whistle butt. An injury that the mare picked up in a cross fire just before the civil war ended in 18 and 65, I pulls the saddle blanket back over the bullet hole and all was quite as I mounted my mare and disappeared into the mountains.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Kir on March 06, 2008, 06:16:57 PM
It's called boot hill because that's where they bury you if you die with your boots on... meaning you died a violent death, probably gunfighting.

I've also heard rumors that they sometimes use someone's boots as their gravestone if they died in the middle of no where, but not sure if I believe that.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on March 06, 2008, 06:37:12 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on February 17, 2008, 06:47:24 PM
oh no!  Rebis has been abducted by aliens!  Were they alien p**ps?  >:D

Posted on: February 17, 2008, 06:46:48 PM
Quote from: Nero on February 17, 2008, 05:10:14 AM
*Nero dons his space armour, jumps in his starship and scours the galaxy for his beloved Reebs.*

are you a p**p, Nero?

If you meant PIMP, yes. I'm a P.I.M.P.

[yt=425,350]v/V4aXM-T_NFA[/yt]
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 06, 2008, 07:51:19 PM

thanks for turning me on, you bastard.                      :laugh:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on March 06, 2008, 08:04:09 PM
p**ps=pimps?  hehehe. 

so apparently, Reb, you were abducted by alien pimps...how do you feel?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 06, 2008, 08:22:21 PM

I feel dirty, used, and... turned on.   >:D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: buttercup on March 06, 2008, 09:41:06 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 06, 2008, 08:22:21 PM

I feel dirty, used, and... turned on.   >:D


Just keep a note of any weird movements around the chest or tummy area, might not be gas!  :o   :o



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Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 06, 2008, 10:11:25 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 06, 2008, 08:22:21 PM

I feel dirty, used, and... turned on.   >:D

Oh, the responses I could lay on that...   >:D
(we'll go with a clean one)




Next time ask if you can invite a friend!  ;D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on March 08, 2008, 01:32:54 AM
Quote from: buttercup on March 06, 2008, 09:41:06 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.serenadawn.com%2FAlien-burster.jpg&hash=0104928c75f33070d82ca8bfafe28d02f01211a1)

Ew.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 08, 2008, 04:55:56 AM
Double ew ew, On the count of three, run for airlock #3.  Uh, oh, There is four of us in this airlock and only three space suits. I guess one of us will have to go as bait for the critter with all the teeth.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 08, 2008, 09:13:03 PM

I'll give someone $10.00 if they french kiss that thing.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on March 08, 2008, 09:24:34 PM
I'll pass. How much to french kiss you?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 08, 2008, 09:26:46 PM
$500.00
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 08, 2008, 09:28:52 PM
"Hee, hee, hee." Wing Walker says she'll give fifteen to anyone who will french kiss that thing and  another five if they return with no parts missing.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 08, 2008, 09:30:15 PM
Quote from: cindybc on March 08, 2008, 09:28:52 PM
"Hee, hee, hee." Wing Walker says she'll give fifteen to anyone who will french kiss that thing and  another five if they return with no parts missing.

Cindy
I'll do it.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on March 08, 2008, 09:39:12 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 08, 2008, 09:26:46 PM
$500.00

ah, one of them high class gals, eh?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 08, 2008, 09:47:48 PM
Nope.  It just takes a lot of motivation to get someone to kiss me.     :'(


Oh.  I meant that I would pay anyone $500.00 who would kiss me.  Not them pay me.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on March 08, 2008, 10:01:29 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 08, 2008, 09:47:48 PM
Nope.  It just takes a lot of motivation to get someone to kiss me.     :'(


Oh.  I meant that I would pay anyone $500.00 who would kiss me.  Not them pay me.

Hmm really. by your, pics, I'd say you been kissed a lot.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on March 08, 2008, 10:05:02 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 08, 2008, 09:47:48 PM
Nope.  It just takes a lot of motivation to get someone to kiss me.     :'(


Oh.  I meant that I would pay anyone $500.00 who would kiss me.  Not them pay me.

I have a hard time believing that.  You're too lovely and sweet for that to be true!!!  :-*


...and it would take WAY more than $10 (or possibly $20) to kiss that icky thing in the pic...terrifying.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 08, 2008, 10:16:00 PM

I'm going to find one of my pictures and gross you out.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 08, 2008, 10:40:49 PM
I'd do it.


Its only a puppet.  ;D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 08, 2008, 10:47:55 PM
Ya that thing with the teeth reminds me of my cousin Dee. Acrualy she looked like Alfred E. Newman in Mad Magazine. I aint goin nowheres close to her.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 09, 2008, 02:41:47 PM
do you have her number  :-*
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 09, 2008, 02:46:06 PM

That Alien thing wouldn't french me if I offered to pay it $10,000 worth of human intestines.


*Sigh*
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on March 09, 2008, 03:18:18 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 08, 2008, 10:16:00 PM

I'm going to find one of my pictures and gross you out.

I'll see you one of your pics and raise you one of mine...maybe i can find one from middle school...those are usually the most frightening...

Quote from: sd on March 08, 2008, 10:40:49 PM
I'd do it.


Its only a puppet.  ;D

you would. :D  hehehe.

it's a little too wet...it looks sticky...it needs skin.  not that it would be much more attractive WITH skin...i somehow think those teeth would be unpleasant...
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 09, 2008, 04:22:36 PM
Ya it's the teeth that bother me, am not to keen on parting with any of my limbs or intestines. Sorry but I am rather attached to my body parts

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Kir on March 10, 2008, 05:55:53 PM
I wish I had any clue what this thing is that you are all threatening to kiss. I'm at work, and behind a firewall, and I see no picture... /pout
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 10, 2008, 06:18:00 PM
Quote from: Kir on March 10, 2008, 05:55:53 PM
I wish I had any clue what this thing is that you are all threatening to kiss. I'm at work, and behind a firewall, and I see no picture... /pout
It is a baby alien from the movie Alien. A creature puts an egg down your throat then this hatches, feasts on your guts, then bursts out through your chest.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 10, 2008, 07:21:55 PM

I wonder why it bursts out from your chest.  Seems more easy to pop out of the tummy.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 10, 2008, 08:15:39 PM
Hi Rebis the mother Alien laid her eggs in people by way of the mouth. It kind of like used a human body as the host  and incubator for the baby alien. after a indeterminate time the egg would hatch then the thingi with the teeth explode it's way out of it's host via the chest.  I believe that was  how it worked. "Yuck, yuck, yuck, that was a really gory movie.  If you have week stomach and an empath, I don't recommend it.

Alien

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Spectator

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Posted on: March 10, 2008, 07:00:35 PM
Hi Rebis they exploded their way out of the chest I guess it would appear to be more gory then through the stomach I guess. Anyway to be sure it's all planed out by the guy who make the movies.  ;D Wing Walker says it reminds her of a toothy penis.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on March 10, 2008, 09:01:08 PM
Better the chest than the tummy. The tummy is sacred. That's where the heart is.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: polymorph on March 10, 2008, 11:51:37 PM
i've always thought the little baby alien is kinda cute, the way it slides along the floor
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 11, 2008, 12:25:26 AM
I would sooner confront a boa constrictor with a suit of armore.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 11, 2008, 12:32:43 AM
Quote from: polymorph on March 10, 2008, 11:51:37 PM
i've always thought the little baby alien is kinda cute, the way it slides along the floor
The one in Space Balls was cuter, it could even dance and sing.   :icon_eyebrow:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: trippedwire on March 12, 2008, 03:12:11 PM
it's really not good to generalize like this.  i guess some people may be "mildly tempered,"  but i certainly would never choose those words to describe myself.  on the other hand, there are a multitude of situations where i might behave in a mild tempered manner.  putting people in boxes like this is something that we should be moving away from. 
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 12, 2008, 04:44:24 PM
people belong in boxes, it's the beginning of understanding. As long as it is only the beginning then it is an essential part of the intellectual process.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on March 12, 2008, 04:46:29 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on March 12, 2008, 04:44:24 PM
people belong in boxes, it's the beginning of understanding. As long as it is only the beginning then it is an essential part of the intellectual process.

Ah, you're just in an argumentive mood lately.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 12, 2008, 04:51:33 PM
Yes, but I've always got pissed off at the 'don't put me in boxes' thing. It's one of the best ways of quickly, and for the most part, accurately sorting and assessing and integrating information. A person who is not in a box is not really a person, they are just a thing, a thing with no touching or connection to anything else. Who would yearn to be that? Put me in boxes I say, just make sure they are the right boxes and that you are flexible enough to change those boxes when i no longer fit.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: buttercup on March 12, 2008, 04:54:32 PM
There are days when I wouldn't mind being put in a box, but of the pine variety.  :o
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on March 12, 2008, 04:55:32 PM
k, but what's with the argumentive mood lately?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 12, 2008, 05:01:23 PM
Quote from: buttercup on March 12, 2008, 04:54:32 PM
There are days when I wouldn't mind being put in a box, but of the pine variety.  :o

but pine does smell lovely.

I guess I am just tired and less patient then usual.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Kir on March 12, 2008, 05:19:44 PM
I hear what you are saying about the box thing. Putting things in boxes is how we deal with things, yes. But it is important to be able to shift around to other boxes, or maybe even half one foot in this box and another foot in that box.

(and back to the alien thing, ooh, well had I known you were talking about the alien! I mean, everyone was just saying "ew" and "I wouldn't kiss that thing" and something about an alien. But now that I know you are talking about THE alien... heck, I could probably quote 3/4ths of those movies! I have the nice collector's edition dvd set. My favorite is resurrection. Ripley is hawt, even if she is old enough to be my grandma)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 12, 2008, 07:00:43 PM
Quote from: Kir on March 12, 2008, 05:19:44 PM
I hear what you are saying about the box thing. Putting things in boxes is how we deal with things, yes. But it is important to be able to shift around to other boxes, or maybe even half one foot in this box and another foot in that box.

(and back to the alien thing, ooh, well had I known you were talking about the alien! I mean, everyone was just saying "ew" and "I wouldn't kiss that thing" and something about an alien. But now that I know you are talking about THE alien... heck, I could probably quote 3/4ths of those movies! I have the nice collector's edition dvd set. My favorite is resurrection. Ripley is hawt, even if she is old enough to be my grandma)
A person after my own heart, I love those movies.
Aliens is my favorite, but Res. is a close second.

Totally agree about Ripley, too.  ;D
(Though she's not old enough to be my grandmother)


But, how could you not know what it was?  :P
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on March 12, 2008, 07:18:40 PM
You all like Resurrection?  My friends and I laughed all the way through it.  I like the first one best. 

Hmmm...I'm not good with labels, so I have trouble committing to a box.  Perhaps I just have commitment issues.  ;)

Pica in a box?  I'll take three, please.  (??? I'm so weird  :icon_geekdance:)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on March 12, 2008, 07:28:54 PM
Quote from: trippedwire on March 12, 2008, 03:12:11 PM
it's really not good to generalize like this.  i guess some people may be "mildly tempered,"  but i certainly would never choose those words to describe myself.  on the other hand, there are a multitude of situations where i might behave in a mild tempered manner.  putting people in boxes like this is something that we should be moving away from. 

maybe you're right. but stereotypes always have their roots in truth.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 12, 2008, 07:36:29 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on March 12, 2008, 07:18:40 PM
You all like Resurrection?  My friends and I laughed all the way through it.  I like the first one best. 

Hmmm...I'm not good with labels, so I have trouble committing to a box.  Perhaps I just have commitment issues.  ;)

Pica in a box?  I'll take three, please.  (??? I'm so weird  :icon_geekdance:)
Actually, I liked all of them a lot except 3, but seeing it again, years later I admit it was better than I remembered. I think it just let me down in terms of an Alien movie, I expected more.

I loved the first one, I feel bad that I don't prefer it more because it is a masterpiece of film making.



Edit:  Sorry Nero, looks like we did it again. :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on March 12, 2008, 07:48:11 PM
Don't know what you're sorry bout, but you're fine. I enjoy listening to the chatter of my unicorns.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 12, 2008, 08:16:29 PM
"Urrrrrrrrrk!" I couldn't stand the blood and guts but I just shut my eyes then looked after the gory stuff was done.  They were interesting movies and so was their concept, the origin of the aliens, the huge alien ship more than half covered in sand.

I have seen only one other movie, which, by the way, was a really far out movie, not as much blood and guts., The name of that movie was, "Rama." There were actually clouds inside that ship, and lakes and forests everywhere on the outside of it, which was actually inside the drum-shaped ship.

I love sci-fi movies and I love astrophysics and astronomy, especially the study of Mars. I have very large collection of stuff about Mars.

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Cindy

Posted on: March 12, 2008, 07:00:47 PM
Errr is Pica in a box anything like Pizza?

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 12, 2008, 08:30:07 PM
Quote from: Nero on March 12, 2008, 07:48:11 PM
Don't know what you're sorry bout, but you're fine. I enjoy listening to the chatter of my unicorns.

We seem to have steered the thread off course.

Not that it ever happens. ::)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 12, 2008, 08:39:33 PM
Ive never been able to fit into anyone's boxes or labels, except where I had to jump through other peoples hoops in order to accomplish transitioning. I just don't like the thought of being analyzed like some specimen in a laboratory. I have been living most of my life on my own, I only tried once before to open my kimono for anther, and I was outright rejected. I think it is much easier to get along with people if they don't know anything about me that doesn't concern them. But I do care and have much compassion for another, I do my best to be there for them, even if all I can do is just give my shoulder for them to lean on. I am by nature a mild natured person who has the ability to get along with almost anybody. You will never see me put anyone down in any of my posts in here, nor will I get into any aggressive arguments with anyone, unless I think I may be able to solve the disagreement  and I enjoy sharing with others here.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 12, 2008, 09:46:12 PM
Quote from: Nero on March 12, 2008, 07:28:54 PM
Quote from: trippedwire on March 12, 2008, 03:12:11 PM
it's really not good to generalize like this.  i guess some people may be "mildly tempered,"  but i certainly would never choose those words to describe myself.  on the other hand, there are a multitude of situations where i might behave in a mild tempered manner.  putting people in boxes like this is something that we should be moving away from. 

maybe you're right. but stereotypes always have their roots in truth.
I don't know about stereotypes, but I think the initial premise of us being mild mannered, I mean mild tempered, was probably based on the attitudes of most of us here at this site.   We tend to defer to each other's great wisdom and to not really argue or anything.   I don't think there are a lot of examples of androgyne histrionics here either.

    Could be a coincidence, an accident, a simple twist of fate that it's been like this.

   

Reeb
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on March 12, 2008, 10:41:11 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 12, 2008, 09:46:12 PM
Quote from: Nero on March 12, 2008, 07:28:54 PM
Quote from: trippedwire on March 12, 2008, 03:12:11 PM
it's really not good to generalize like this.  i guess some people may be "mildly tempered,"  but i certainly would never choose those words to describe myself.  on the other hand, there are a multitude of situations where i might behave in a mild tempered manner.  putting people in boxes like this is something that we should be moving away from. 

maybe you're right. but stereotypes always have their roots in truth.
I don't know about stereotypes, but I think the initial premise of us being mild mannered, I mean mild tempered, was probably based on the attitudes of most of us here at this site.   We tend to defer to each other's great wisdom and to not really argue or anything.   I don't think there are a lot of examples of androgyne histrionics here either.

    Could be a coincidence, an accident, a simple twist of fate that it's been like this.

   

Reeb

Exactly, Reebs. And there is a drastic contrast in tone between the Androgynee and Transsexual boards.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: tekla on March 12, 2008, 10:50:14 PM
I think that tone is all in how we accept ourselves.  People who are cool with themselves, tend not to care too much about what others might think.  But if you are trying to be one thing, and everyone sees you as something else - well I can feel the conflict in that.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 13, 2008, 07:40:28 AM

But some of us tweeners have issues with how we're perceived too.   Just ask Nero.  He had to listen to me whine about it.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on March 13, 2008, 07:45:49 AM
Quote from: Rebis on March 13, 2008, 07:40:28 AM

But some of us tweeners have issues with how we're perceived too.   Just ask Nero.  He had to listen to me whine about it.

I also have issues regarding being perceived as what people see externally. I deal with it, but it does bother me.

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 13, 2008, 02:09:26 PM
i suppose we must deal with it, there's not really a way to correct our problem. Or maybe that is just me.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on March 13, 2008, 02:14:13 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on March 13, 2008, 02:09:26 PM
i suppose we must deal with it, there's not really a way to correct our problem. Or maybe that is just me.

Do you ever have issues with how you're perceived? Any social dysphoria at all?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 13, 2008, 02:16:21 PM
i don't really get how i am perceived. so i just pretend everyone percieves me as i do - and all is better.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on March 13, 2008, 02:21:03 PM
and how do YOU perceive you? (set yourself up for that one)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 13, 2008, 02:33:15 PM
friendly, cosy talkbox
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Maddie Secutura on March 13, 2008, 11:30:39 PM
Hmm, a friendly cozy talk box?  Friendly, snuggly, filled with things to say.  That's what I gathered from your posts.  Oh, that sounds like a rather mild temperament to me.  I guess androgynes are mild because they can be.  Like the neutrals in Futurama.  "If I don't make it out alive tell my wife I said...hello."
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: NickSister on March 14, 2008, 02:09:35 AM
Quote from: Nero on March 13, 2008, 02:14:13 PM
Do you ever have issues with how you're perceived? Any social dysphoria at all?

Totally - I always, well almost always get perceived as man. Occasionaly I get mistaken for a woman on the phone because I have a soft voice and I often pick up with a high pitched purky 'Hi!'. I kind of like that, makes a change.

I hate being mistaken for a man. I don't like it. I don't like how the women in my section say things like "with the new guy starting you don't have to be the only one", or when my mum introduces me as "this is my son", or how I receive mail from the bank and it has a Mr on it even though I told them not to, I hate how there are only two boxes for gender on internet forms and I have to fill one out and I can't decide what I dislike the least, I hate how I am included in man jokes or how women get together to talk about their husbands and roll their eyes saying "men" including me as an object for their good humored scorn. I don't like how people assume my sexuality is homosexual from the way I look (though I don't mind getting hit on by the guys as long as they are not too sleazy - I once stayed in a backpackers and this guy came up to me and said "I noticed you have a big cock", of course I could only reply "not really, it is the only safe place to keep my keys but there goes that theory"). I dislike how when I buy womans underwear everyone around me seems to freak out like I am a pervert and I end up feeling like I am one.

I understand it though, I have a mans body and I do have many behaviours lots of people classify as male. It makes me want to just curl up and cry at the unfairness of it all, there is nowhere to go to escape it - except if I hang out with lesbians. Lesbians are great, they often seem to accept me as a kindred spirit and I love them for it, and their porn is nice.



Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 14, 2008, 02:57:02 AM
Put some fur on Pica Pica and he could go as a warm and fuzzy.  ;D

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Seshatneferw on March 14, 2008, 03:48:10 AM
Quote from: NickSister on March 14, 2008, 02:09:35 AM
I hate being mistaken for a man. I don't like it.

I don't really mind that, if it's as far as it goes. Things like being told 'you only say that because you are a man' really hurt, though (regardless of whether I said that because I was stupid or because I was right). Some of my acquaintances subscribe to the kind of feminism that results on these remarks, which is why I've always considered myself an 'I'm not a feminist, but'. Similarly, I've never really liked situations where the males around me expect me to like hockey or sexist jokes (and the absolutely worst part of puberty was when the rising testosterone levels tried to steer me to the last-mentioned direction, but fortunately that didn't last very long).

So, no, being perceived as a man (or a woman) isn't a problem. Being expected to behave a certain way because of that perceived gender is.

  Nfr
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Simone Louise on March 14, 2008, 04:12:50 AM
Quote from: NickSister on March 14, 2008, 02:09:35 AM
Quote from: Nero on March 13, 2008, 02:14:13 PM
Do you ever have issues with how you're perceived? Any social dysphoria at all?

Totally - I always, well almost always get perceived as man. Occasionaly I get mistaken for a woman on the phone... I kind of like that, makes a change.

.... I don't like how the women ... say things like "with the new guy starting you don't have to be the only one"..., I hate how there are only two boxes for gender on internet forms ..., I hate how I am included in man jokes or how women get together to talk about their husbands and roll their eyes saying "men" including me as an object for their good humored scorn. ....

Ditto on the above. As for clothes, I've only gone as far as red and blue shoes, an aqua unisex night shirt, and a T-shirt with a small print of squirrels, etc. Though last night at the sporting goods store, I bought some training pants to see if they'd be gentler on my catheterized parts and they are all several inches too long. I wondered if women runners with the same waist might have shorter legs, but I didn't check it out.

When our daughter was a baby, my wife belonged to a new mothers group, and would come and rail at "you men". My jaw would fall open, and then she'd remember who she was with. And in cooking classes or the League of Women Voters, I'd get asked if I didn't feel uncomfortable being the only man: NO. I feel uncomfortable with a group of men talking about investments and sports ad nauseum. And I refuse to join any club or social group that excludes women.

I know Pica Pica likes boxes, but the box of "those men" is one I'd like to escape; I just don't belong.

Simone
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 14, 2008, 12:37:43 PM
Quote from: NickSister on March 14, 2008, 02:09:35 AM
Totally - I always, well almost always get perceived as man. Occasionaly I get mistaken for a woman on the phone because I have a soft voice and I often pick up with a high pitched purky 'Hi!'. I kind of like that, makes a change.

I hate being mistaken for a man. I don't like it. I don't like how the women in my section say things like "with the new guy starting you don't have to be the only one", or when my mum introduces me as "this is my son", or how I receive mail from the bank and it has a Mr on it even though I told them not to, I hate how there are only two boxes for gender on internet forms and I have to fill one out and I can't decide what I dislike the least, I hate how I am included in man jokes or how women get together to talk about their husbands and roll their eyes saying "men" including me as an object for their good humored scorn. I don't like how people assume my sexuality is homosexual from the way I look (though I don't mind getting hit on by the guys as long as they are not too sleazy - I once stayed in a backpackers and this guy came up to me and said "I noticed you have a big cock", of course I could only reply "not really, it is the only safe place to keep my keys but there goes that theory"). I dislike how when I buy womans underwear everyone around me seems to freak out like I am a pervert and I end up feeling like I am one.

I understand it though, I have a mans body and I do have many behaviours lots of people classify as male. It makes me want to just curl up and cry at the unfairness of it all, there is nowhere to go to escape it - except if I hang out with lesbians. Lesbians are great, they often seem to accept me as a kindred spirit and I love them for it, and their porn is nice.

I can relate to much of what is there. I don't mind so much the pronouns or most people thinking I am a male, but I hate being lumped in with other males and it being assumed I have similar behavior or expectations (yes, I know that sounds ridiculous). At one job the women would start chatting and every now and again they would look at me and just say "oh sorry", I would rather you just continue what you were doing instead of acknowledging the fact that I do not belong in the conversation. Of course getting this across to them never worked.

I found similar to you with the lesbians, but I thought maybe I was the only one who experienced this, they seem to quickly pick up that I am not a typical male and accept me as one of them. Sometimes taking that acceptance to extremes.

I have not done the underwear thing but I have had some strange experiences with men thinking I was something I am not, I seem to attract all types of people.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on March 14, 2008, 01:04:28 PM
Quote from: cindybc on March 14, 2008, 02:57:02 AM
Put some fur on Pica Pica and he could go as a warm and fuzzy.  ;D

Cindy


Nah. Sie's fluffy enough already.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Veetje on March 14, 2008, 01:32:59 PM

Im trying to accept myself...thats hard

How am I perceived?: Mostly as a gay guy I guess, which I dont really like....not the gay part and most definately not the guy part
But do I want to be perceived as a woman? If I had to choose then yes.....but I like to be described as a bisexual fairy most

Im trying my best to get out of this "men"box...it sucks, but the "women"box is something odd to me aswell
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on March 14, 2008, 07:37:19 PM
I think if I were able to look male, I'd prefer to be perceived that way.  :(  I thought I was all right, but giving possibility to something I thought was impossible has made me a little sad.  *sigh*
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 14, 2008, 07:45:52 PM

It's okay, Jaimey, the sadness will pass, then come back, then pass again...

now I'm a little sad.   :P
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on March 14, 2008, 07:46:56 PM
I understand Jaimey. I'm TS, but I understand how it is to not be perceived how you want. And to wish your body fit more closely with your identity.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 15, 2008, 04:29:50 AM
Speaking of emotions I was on a roller coaster of emotions all day today and I don't know why.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 15, 2008, 04:04:03 PM
Quote from: cindybc on March 15, 2008, 04:29:50 AM
Speaking of emotions I was on a roller coaster of emotions all day today and I don't know why.

Cindy
I think we all are.  You must have come too close to one of us.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 15, 2008, 05:21:03 PM
I have been on that ride for close to 2 months now.
Stop the ride, I want to get off.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on March 15, 2008, 06:25:42 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 15, 2008, 04:04:03 PM
Quote from: cindybc on March 15, 2008, 04:29:50 AM
Speaking of emotions I was on a roller coaster of emotions all day today and I don't know why.

Cindy
I think we all are.  You must have come too close to one of us.

Quote from: sd on March 15, 2008, 05:21:03 PM
I have been on that ride for close to 2 months now.
Stop the ride, I want to get off.

Sorry everyone is feeling bad!!! I've been in bed for a couple of days with a bad cold/flu, and not feeling very good mentally either....

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 15, 2008, 07:01:33 PM
Get well soon, Zythyra.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on March 15, 2008, 07:14:05 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 15, 2008, 07:01:33 PM
Get well soon, Zythyra.

Thanks Rebis! This is already the third cold I've had this winter, usually I just get one and that's all. :(

Hmmmm, i can't find a sneezing smiley  :P

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 15, 2008, 08:20:15 PM
Yeah get well Zythyra. I have never been seriously ill physically in my life outside of the odd cold and flue but I haven't even had a cold or flue in the past four years. Well I just simply don't get sick, not physically and I thank Great Spirit I don't. I believe I should be thankful for Echenacia for keeping colds and flue away though as well. I get depressed or emotional occasionally but nothing to really wright home about. I believe that it may have something to do with hormonal variations.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 15, 2008, 08:20:23 PM
Quote from: Zythyra on March 15, 2008, 06:25:42 PM
Sorry everyone is feeling bad!!! I've been in bed for a couple of days with a bad cold/flu, and not feeling very good mentally either....

Z
I just have too much going on and I am not able to deal with all of it as well as I should.

I Hope you feel better soon Z, same goes for the rest of you.

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 15, 2008, 09:15:13 PM
well if i can jump on the moaning bandwagon, by monday i will have worked 45 hours in four days-and had to miss my mum's birthday to deal with despicable football fans and now smell like a dirty glass wash and feel rank, and smelly and tired and very, very, bored.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 15, 2008, 09:35:46 PM
Hi Pica pica, I'm always around somewhere on this board if you wanna come out and play.  ;D

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on March 15, 2008, 09:37:16 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on March 15, 2008, 09:15:13 PM
well if i can jump on the moaning bandwagon, by monday i will have worked 45 hours in four days-and had to miss my mum's birthday to deal with despicable football fans and now smell like a dirty glass wash and feel rank, and smelly and tired and very, very, bored.

[yt=425,350]v/1TKQcWEXSKU&hl=en[/yt]
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 15, 2008, 09:37:20 PM
can't really play from behind a bar can i, wish i were behind bars - a prisoner has much of what i want in life.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 15, 2008, 09:41:09 PM

I hear there's a cell in the tower of London just awaitin' for you.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 15, 2008, 09:43:12 PM
i couldn't afford the rent.
Just stick me in a cosy prison, pay all my living costs and let me write. Like Bunyan and Miguel de Cervantes.

Get Myself Arrested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubVoz_XJ9ho
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 15, 2008, 09:45:02 PM
Quote from: Nero on March 15, 2008, 09:37:16 PM
video
I have not heard that in ages.
For a moment I expected "working for the weekend".


I think this is what we all need though, summertime.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W9kcxdPPjk
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 15, 2008, 09:50:30 PM
no, that video will just make me think of what i will miss out on.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 15, 2008, 09:53:04 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on March 15, 2008, 09:50:30 PM
no, that video will just make me think of what i will miss out on.

Why can't you enjoy summer? Or why will you miss it?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 15, 2008, 09:56:40 PM
i will get to watch summer through a plate glass window, boiling in a poorly airconditioned bar and serving people their lovely summer pints.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 15, 2008, 10:10:00 PM

You still have no options for real work?

I don't get it.  You're intelligent and occasionally energetic.  What do you do, throw salt in the eyes of your interviewers just as their about to hire you?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 15, 2008, 10:15:45 PM
Hi Pica pica, oh wow that really sucks man. I can't stand being indoors in the summer and have always found ways to be outdoors even when I was working. Being a social worker doesn't mean you have to be inside to do your work. Now I'm retired and can live outside if I wish and I might do just that. In the mountains, "hee, hee, hee." I wonder if they have any Sasquatch up there?

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 15, 2008, 10:31:05 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 15, 2008, 10:10:00 PM

You still have no options for real work?

I don't get it.  You're intelligent and occasionally energetic.  What do you do, throw salt in the eyes of your interviewers just as their about to hire you?

I do 3 terrible things.

1) I have no experience (except weird ones with theatres and portrait photography and filmmaking and stuff)
2) I think for myself.
3) I am very ambitious (but relating to number 2, those ambitions are my own ambitions for my own self).

1+2+3=pretty unemployable.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 15, 2008, 10:47:14 PM

   I prefer to believe that you use the salt trick.   That's what I'm going to do when I have to look for work.

   I have no ambition.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 15, 2008, 10:50:05 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on March 15, 2008, 10:31:05 PM
I do 3 terrible things.

1) I have no experience (except weird ones with theatres and portrait photography and filmmaking and stuff)
2) I think for myself.
3) I am very ambitious (but relating to number 2, those ambitions are my own ambitions for my own self).

1+2+3=pretty unemployable.

Sounds like you need to start your own thing on the side.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 16, 2008, 04:26:29 AM
Hi all, I thought I would post this you tube here in an efort to bring smiles back on you beautiful faces.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=uoBXAUNU1HE

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on March 16, 2008, 12:14:43 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on March 15, 2008, 10:31:05 PM
I do 3 terrible things.

1) I have no experience (except weird ones with theatres and portrait photography and filmmaking and stuff)
2) I think for myself.
3) I am very ambitious (but relating to number 2, those ambitions are my own ambitions for my own self).

1+2+3=pretty unemployable.

Me too!  I have no experience but I can't get experience because no one will hire me because I have no experience.  It's stupid.  My job is okay, but I couldn't make a career out of it.  Starting next week, I'll probably be working about 52 hours a week because I need the money, so I'm working overtime.  Bleah.  There are no windows in the building I work in.  We just sit in our "pods" which are like cubicles, except more lame. 

*sigh* 

I do feel better though. You were right about those feelings coming and going, Reb.  I got to relieve some stress yesterday when some friends came over.  Laughing is good.  :laugh:

I hope you all start to feel better soon too!  (I think my cough came back...I wish it would get warm!!!)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Seshatneferw on March 16, 2008, 03:01:18 PM
You could list your activities over here as work experience. Of course, finding the job where that experience was relevant might be tricky...  ;)

(Yay, 500th post!)

  Nfr
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on March 16, 2008, 03:16:11 PM
Quote from: Seshatneferw on March 16, 2008, 03:01:18 PM
You could list your activities over here as work experience. Of course, finding the job where that experience was relevant might be tricky...  ;)

Feel free to use any of us as references too.... depending on the type of job, that also might not work to your best advantage though.  ;)

Hmmmmm, wondering how to get paid for time spent here... I know, thread monitor, to make sure things stay on topic... oh never mind, that would take more than one person, full time 24/7...  :D

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 16, 2008, 03:52:20 PM
Quote from: Seshatneferw on March 16, 2008, 03:01:18 PM
You could list your activities over here as work experience. Of course, finding the job where that experience was relevant might be tricky...  ;)

(Yay, 500th post!)

  Nfr

it took you long enough!   :P
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 16, 2008, 04:20:32 PM
Hi, Good afternoon all, here is hoping that this little tune will make someone smile..........

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=hnzHtm1jhL4

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 16, 2008, 08:27:47 PM
might get into office tempin, for liveable money will I develop my bit on the side.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Seshatneferw on March 17, 2008, 06:25:37 AM
Quote from: Rebis on March 16, 2008, 03:52:20 PM
Quote from: Seshatneferw on March 16, 2008, 03:01:18 PM
(Yay, 500th post!)
it took you long enough!   :P

Well, that's because I'm so careful about what I write. You know, trying to cultivate an image as a mature, um, what'd be the right non-gendered term batriarch. Yes, that's right there between the binary-gendered ones. So there.  >:D

  Nfr
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on March 19, 2008, 09:09:08 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on March 16, 2008, 08:27:47 PM
might get into office tempin, for liveable money will I develop my bit on the side.

...don't do it!  Unless you like being in hell.  Masochist.  ;) 

I'm a temp.  I spend 9.5 hours a day staring at my computer and/or the pinkish beige wall behind it...the money isn't horrible (in the states at least).  It's not great, but it could be worse.  It could be retail.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 19, 2008, 09:48:08 PM
well i am currently at the lowest wage possible at work 13 hrs a day repetitively pouring drinks. I call it a step up.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on March 19, 2008, 09:50:41 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on March 19, 2008, 09:48:08 PM
well i am currently at the lowest wage possible at work 13 hrs a day repetitively pouring drinks. I call it a step up.

That doesn't sound like much fun.... I once had a job bartending for a few months...

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 19, 2008, 09:51:56 PM
i actually enjoy it, i just can't live very much off it.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on March 19, 2008, 09:57:04 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on March 19, 2008, 09:51:56 PM
i actually enjoy it, i just can't live very much off it.

don't you get tips? here, the barmaids get great tips and a percentage when a patron buys them drinks.
barmaids make good money where i'm from.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 19, 2008, 10:04:52 PM
the company has a 'no tipping' thing
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on March 19, 2008, 10:25:27 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on March 19, 2008, 10:04:52 PM
the company has a 'no tipping' thing

uwah?  really?  i've never heard of 'no tipping' in a bar!  you should mutiny!
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 19, 2008, 10:29:19 PM
it's not really part of our culture,
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on March 19, 2008, 10:37:38 PM
no tipping?!? not a part of your culture? my god, you English are so backward. you'd be making a killing in the States. in my city, barmaids make $10 per hour plus tips every drink. plus if they get the patrons to buy drinks for them they get a percentage of the drink price.

you poor thing. you're not getting a fraction of what your job's worth.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 19, 2008, 10:42:07 PM
backward? at least we put the death penalty to bed.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on March 19, 2008, 10:43:20 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on March 19, 2008, 10:42:07 PM
backward? at least we put the death penalty to bed.

touche.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 20, 2008, 07:58:50 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 20, 2008, 09:20:34 AM

We need the death penalty so's we can punish patrons who don't tip.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Lutin on March 20, 2008, 09:26:36 AM
Quotebackward? at least we put the death penalty to bed.

Did it get a story and a nice warm glass of milk? Laced with arsenic? >:D


We don't have the death penalty in Australia, either. Or tipping (except in the odd café, and that's more if you can't be bothered taking home the shrapnel from a $3.85 coffee).

Mind you, we don't really need the death penalty, what with all the drop bears... ;)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Emerald on March 20, 2008, 09:31:16 AM
Quote from: Rebis on March 20, 2008, 09:20:34 AM
We need the death penalty so's we can punish patrons who don't tip.

:icon_evil_laugh: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! :icon_evil_laugh:
:icon_drunk: :icon_drunk: :icon_drunk: :icon_drunk: :icon_drunk: :icon_drunk: :icon_drunk:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Lutin on March 20, 2008, 09:39:46 AM
Yay! Drinks all 'round!!! :laugh:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Seshatneferw on March 20, 2008, 03:13:49 PM
Watch out, e's expecting a tip.

  Nfr
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on March 21, 2008, 08:00:03 PM
Quote from: Seshatneferw on March 20, 2008, 03:13:49 PM
Watch out, e's expecting a tip.

  Nfr


Don't eat yellow snow. 

(I'm just going to start apologizing at the beginning of my posts to save the trouble of having to do it later)



I think the US has a nice middle ground for tipping.  I went to Mexico once and you had to tip EVERYBODY!  No one prepared us for the sheer amount of tips that we had to pay out.  It was insane.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 21, 2008, 09:24:12 PM

well, I'd rather live in Pica's world of non-tipping. 

I feel guilty no matter what I leave.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on March 22, 2008, 03:17:30 AM
Tipping is important. It's a way to express your satisfaction or lack thereof with the quality of the service.
Nothing to feel guilty about. If the service sucked, no tip or a meager one like a dime or something is a nice non-verbal way of making your displeasure clear.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: lady amarant on March 22, 2008, 03:26:08 AM
Quote from: Rebis on March 21, 2008, 09:24:12 PM

well, I'd rather live in Pica's world of non-tipping. 

I feel guilty no matter what I leave.

Yeah, but if you're paying 2.60 GBP for a single vodka with lime and soda (expected to go up this week due to the budget speech last week) you'd expect the poor bar-person or waiter to be getting properly paid as well.

I still generally leave a tip though. A small one, but South Africa is also big on tipping, and I feel guilty not doing it. I had to bite back more than a few choice words in my waitering days...
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 22, 2008, 03:30:10 AM
Out here they take stiffs out behind the barn and blindfold them then proceed to throw rotten veggies at them.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: lady amarant on March 22, 2008, 03:34:35 AM
Out here I think they'd probably end up discussing throwing veggies while having a pint or two and looking at said stiff. Said stiff would eventually crawl away while more pints were being had.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Lutin on March 22, 2008, 05:05:19 AM
It comes in pints?! I'm getting one! :icon_joy: :icon_drunk:

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: lady amarant on March 22, 2008, 05:33:05 AM
"That thing's bigger than you!"
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie j on March 22, 2008, 08:59:31 AM
Quote from: Nero on March 22, 2008, 03:17:30 AM
Tipping is important. It's a way to express your satisfaction or lack thereof with the quality of the service.
Nothing to feel guilty about. If the service sucked, no tip or a meager one like a dime or something is a nice non-verbal way of making your displeasure clear.

indeed so very true Nero 8)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 22, 2008, 12:18:39 PM
Quote from: Nero on March 22, 2008, 03:17:30 AM
Tipping is important. It's a way to express your satisfaction or lack thereof with the quality of the service.
Nothing to feel guilty about. If the service sucked, no tip or a meager one like a dime or something is a nice non-verbal way of making your displeasure clear.
Yes, but many who get them have often come to expect it regardless of their performance. I have had soem pretty heated arguments with cabbies over this.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 22, 2008, 01:38:16 PM

    Cabbies are a cowardly superstitious lot.  An inherently evil group of people if ever there were one.  Someday one will become President of the united states.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 22, 2008, 09:14:54 PM
My place a double is £2.95. A single, £1.95
And I am on minimum wage, without even London weighting. It is not possible to be legally paid less then I.

Doesn't America do pints of beer?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 22, 2008, 11:05:37 PM

everything is 12 or 16 ounces.   What is a pint anyway?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on March 22, 2008, 11:12:32 PM
16 oz

It's what size glass beer is served in the UK. And of course, what some call beer in the USA bears little resemblance.

How many topics have we covered now in this thread?  ::)

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 22, 2008, 11:15:18 PM
well, yeah, I've tried what you people call beer and I've never drank anything so watery and tasteless. But you do make great bourbon, so no problems there.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on March 22, 2008, 11:21:33 PM
American beer sucks. There are some microbreweries now making good ales and such. I mostly avoid it and drink wine instead.

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 22, 2008, 11:24:44 PM
I don't even touch alcohol anymore.   I never liked any of it.

Speaking of topics, I just wanted to say that the reason androgynes are of such mild temperament is because someone knocked us unconscious.

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Lutin on March 22, 2008, 11:26:08 PM
Never been big on beer or bourbon. Bailey's, on t'other hand... ;)

Or anything chocolatey, for that matter...bit of a chocolate whore, am I.

(Can you say "whore" here, or have I just broken a cardinal rule? ???)


Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 22, 2008, 11:29:54 PM

you can say 'whore' but you can't call someone a whore.  You can call yourself a whore, but then you have to meet with me in the back room.  Heh heh
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 22, 2008, 11:55:34 PM
This thread? It's been all over the map and back again and then "pop goes the weezle again." Well as for alcohol, I don't touch the stuff, but I chow tobakie and smoke marywanna. Na I'm a good girl, I don't do any of that stuff me tells ya. Cindy is wearing a little blue dress with white fringed cuffs and hem she holds her hands behind her back crossing her fingers as she rocks slightly back and forth on the heels of her feet while studying the ceiling and whistling a little tune.

Cindy   
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 23, 2008, 01:10:35 AM
Quote from: cindybc on March 22, 2008, 11:55:34 PM
This thread? It's been all over the map and back again and then "pop goes the weezle again."    

It strayed three times to varying degrees on page one alone. Just a guess but that sounds par for the course. 18 pages, say 2.5 strays each means we have one hell of a fear of things getting too serious.  ;D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 23, 2008, 01:16:09 AM
Quote from: sd on March 23, 2008, 01:10:35 AM
Quote from: cindybc on March 22, 2008, 11:55:34 PM
This thread? It's been all over the map and back again and then "pop goes the weezle again."     

It strayed three times to varying degrees on page one alone. Just a guess but that sounds par for the course. 18 pages, say 2.5 strays each means we have one hell of a fear of things getting too serious.  ;D
along with a fear of spiders.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: lady amarant on March 23, 2008, 01:44:18 AM
Quote from: Wikipedia (Really, where else?!)Imperial pint
The imperial pint is equal one eighth of an imperial gallon.[1] It is used in the United Kingdom and other Commonwealth countries, though mostly replaced by metric units.

1 imperial pint:
= 1/8 imperial gallons
= 1/2 imperial quarts
= 4 imperial gills
= 20 imperial fluid ounces
= 568.26125 millilitres (exactly) ≈ 568 ml
≈ 34.677429099 cubic inches
≈ 1.2009499255 U.S. wet pints
≈ 1.0320567435 U.S. dry pints

You know, you guys do all make it hellishly difficult for yourselves (and the rest of us!!!) to have any clue what you are talking about when measuring stuff. Follow the French, go metric!  ;D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Lutin on March 23, 2008, 02:22:11 AM
I reckon, I always got confused trying to convert things between kilometres and milimetres (had to do it in maths at school; why you would want to convert such measurements is beyond me. ??? Other than proving you can do it, of course), never mind trying to work with a more complicated system.

And glad I'm not the only arachnophobe! :D





QuoteYou can call yourself a whore, but then you have to meet with me in the back room.  Heh heh

I'm heading out there now... If anyone would like to join us... ;)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 23, 2008, 03:27:40 AM
I am not certain either. Except that grams are way smaller than pounds, it just makes it sound that we are getting more for our $ which is not really true.  When buying gasoline, comparing the quantity of liters per dollar and gallons per dollar, it sound like you are getting more for your buck in metric as compared with the dollar and that just ain't so.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 23, 2008, 03:48:03 AM
Quote from: cindybc on March 23, 2008, 03:27:40 AM
I am not certain either. Except that grams are way smaller than pounds, it just makes it sound that we are getting more for our $ which is not really true.  When buying gasoline, comparing the quantity of liters per dollar and gallons per dollar, it sound like you are getting more for your buck in metric as compared with the dollar and that just ain't so.

Cindy
It is not easy no matter what you do.

U.K. gallons are larger than U.S Gallons.

There is even more than one metric standard. This caused one of the European Mars probes to crash, the landing system was written in one system, and programed to land in the other. It sort of made a nice crater.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 23, 2008, 03:55:56 AM
Ya I know, it landed in my back yard and now it is siting on my mantlepiece in the fortress of city square Mars. Well I was supposed to move to the face but they want to much for rent.

Cindy   
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 23, 2008, 01:56:15 PM
Quote from: lady amarant on March 23, 2008, 01:44:18 AM
You know, you guys do all make it hellishly difficult for yourselves (and the rest of us!!!) to have any clue what you are talking about when measuring stuff. Follow the French, go metric!  ;D
Saying something like that here will get you the death penalty.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: lady amarant on March 23, 2008, 02:07:28 PM
Vive le Revolucion!  :P
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: tekla on March 23, 2008, 02:44:23 PM
In many respects the US is metric, we just don't tell anyone else.  But beverages, lots of tools, and weights are more metric, miles however I think we're stuck with.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: lady amarant on March 23, 2008, 03:14:23 PM
Quote from: tekla on March 23, 2008, 02:44:23 PM
In many respects the US is metric, we just don't tell anyone else.

Wouldn't want the French to know, would we now. ;)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: tekla on March 23, 2008, 04:03:17 PM
Nope, we got Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast, damn it!  I guess that's "Freedom Kissing" now too.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: lady amarant on March 23, 2008, 04:14:16 PM
Hmmmm. Freedom Kissing sounds boring...
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 23, 2008, 04:42:00 PM
What's the mater with France? Are they running out of wood to make rulers?

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie j on March 23, 2008, 06:23:15 PM
Quote from: lady amarant on March 23, 2008, 04:14:16 PM
Hmmmm. Freedom Kissing sounds boring...

maybe and then again maybe not ;)

Posted on: March 23, 2008, 05:20:53 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on March 22, 2008, 11:15:18 PM
well, yeah, I've tried what you people call beer and I've never drank anything so watery and tasteless. But you do make great bourbon, so no problems there.

if it was called miller or bush . pica pica yea that stuff is water . but i will say  budwiser ice and that line.

umm it ant watered down .thats the last time i had one which was a long time ago tho ::)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 23, 2008, 08:19:17 PM
A UK tonne is bigger than a US Ton.
One of our numbers is bigger also, can't remember which one.
I like a nice microbrewery - most mass produced beer is a tad nasty I find - except Guiness which I currently have a real thing for.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 23, 2008, 09:18:03 PM

We have lots of beer produced by small companies that try to make it real as opposed to the watery urine that the big companies produce.

Sam Adams has become a better known one.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 23, 2008, 09:31:44 PM
Hi, I found that back when I was drinking I was rather fond of Heinekins beer, you could purchase it in both Canada and US. I just found that the taste was about as close as some of the breweries did about 48 years ago . There was a later time where I only drank home made beer fermented in a five galon crock for 4 weeks and bottled in quart bottles it was 9% alcohol. Three bottles would set you on your behind. From Cindy the bootleger.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Alyssa M. on March 24, 2008, 01:23:50 AM
Quote from: lady amarant on March 23, 2008, 01:44:18 AM
You know, you guys do all make it hellishly difficult for yourselves (and the rest of us!!!) to have any clue what you are talking about when measuring stuff. Follow the French, go metric!  ;D

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The best part is that I can see my foot. It is 4 feet away when I am sitting down and 6 feet away when I am standing up. I have a foot. I do not have a meter.

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Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Lutin on March 24, 2008, 01:32:54 AM
What about poor (weird) podophobes like me, who can't stand feet? (I think they got it right when they decided to measure horses in hands... ;)).
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Alyssa M. on March 24, 2008, 01:44:39 AM
Well, you can always use Gaussian, or Heaviside-Lorentz, or better yet, natural units. I mean, metric? Who ever came up with a system that set the speed of light to be 299792458 and Planck's Constant 1.054571628(53)*10^-34? Just set them both equal to 1; then everything is a lot easier!

So what's the price in Euros for 10^28 inverse femtometers of premium these days? ;) :P
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: lady amarant on March 24, 2008, 02:59:54 AM
Well, at least we don't have to deal with seven twelfths of a foot. Working in base 10 has certain advantages!
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 24, 2008, 03:06:11 AM
Gaussian, femtometers, podophobes and Planck's Constant. :icon_dizzy:

I guess now I know how my parents felt when I had math homework.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Alyssa M. on March 24, 2008, 03:11:19 AM
Quote from: lady amarant on March 24, 2008, 02:59:54 AM
Well, at least we don't have to deal with seven twelfths of a foot. Working in base 10 has certain advantages!

Ah, but so does base 12! Or base 60 for that matter! From the link above:
QuoteI have always been happy with our clock, and smile at the genuises who have never figured out a base ten clock.




Of course, for hard-core computer geeks, nothing but hexadecimal will do, except perhaps binary on the rare occasion! :P ;)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: lady amarant on March 24, 2008, 03:14:30 AM
Quote from: Alyssa M. on March 24, 2008, 03:11:19 AM
Ah, but so does base 12! Or base 60 for that matter! From the link above:

I do not have 12 fingers. I have 10. I suppose base 5 or base 20 would've done equally well. ;)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Alyssa M. on March 24, 2008, 03:25:31 AM
Ah, but 12 has more factors: 2,3,4 and 6.
10 has just 2 and 5.
20 has as many as 12 (2,4,5,10) but they're not as dense, and just not as nice -- you can't divide 20 into 3 evenly.
But 60 is very nice: 2,3,4,5,6,10,12,15,20,30. So there are lots of ways to evenly divide an hour. You know... if you're into that sort of thing.  :embarrassed: ::) :P

(Okay, maybe I sound insane, but that's really why our clocks are like that, and why there are 360 degrees on a compass. Yup ... I'm geekin' out tonight!!!  :laugh:)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: lady amarant on March 24, 2008, 03:37:53 AM
Quote from: Alyssa M. on March 24, 2008, 03:25:31 AM
Yup ... I'm geekin' out tonight!!!

Aw, nothing wrong with that! Besides, 60 does have some precedent in history - the Mayans used it to create the most accurate calendar in like, ever. The reason 10 works though is because of the ease of multiplication. 60x60X60 - most people would have to whip out a calculator for that! (Which granted, is damned sad in and of itself) But 10x10x10 is easy. Blame the ancient Indians! And the Arabs for introducing 0 to Europe!
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 24, 2008, 03:51:17 AM
Hmmmmm what are we calculating here anyway, the new coordinates for launching a starship? Or the reconstruction of the Quantum Level Puddle Jumper.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Alyssa M. on March 24, 2008, 03:59:20 AM
Quote from: lady amarant on March 24, 2008, 03:37:53 AMBut 10x10x10 is easy.

Of course. It's 0x000003d8

Or 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0011 1110 1000 for you all you binary people.

But there aren't any binary people around here, are there? <_<  :laugh:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: lady amarant on March 24, 2008, 04:07:37 AM
Quote from: Alyssa M. on March 24, 2008, 03:59:20 AM
Quote from: lady amarant on March 24, 2008, 03:37:53 AMBut 10x10x10 is easy.

Of course. It's 0x000003d8

Or 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0011 1110 1000 for you all you binary people.

Geekfest!!!

Seriously though, I agree, no analogue for decimal in nature really, except the arbitrary choice of the number of digits we have. Personally, I think we should only be using Primes and Fibonacci numbers supported by natural constants, but even THAT is arbitrary if the multiverse model holds out!

Try and teach two's complement subtraction to a 5-year old though...  :eusa_snooty:

Quote
But there aren't any binary people around here, are there? <_<  :laugh:

*gigglesnort*  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 24, 2008, 04:49:25 AM
I'm an alien orphan from Beatleguise.

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Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 24, 2008, 05:36:09 AM
may I just stop you all there to say

What  ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Lutin on March 24, 2008, 08:09:26 AM
Unfortunately, one of the coolest (and possibly most useless, in comparison to the other versions of it out there) inventions is the Binary Clock. It's brilliant!!! :icon_joy: :icon_geekdance:


               H  H     M M       S  S

8                                        :)

4                           :)      :)

2                       :) :)

1             :)       :) :)          :)   


               1  0     3  7        4  9

OK - to read this (taken straight from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_clock), add up the values in the columns (represented by the smiley faces, which would normally be blue lights) with reference to the far left-hand column, to get the numbers - and the time - at the bottom. In the second column (H for "hours"), there is a single :) in the 1 row and nothing in the second H column - therefore, the H total is 10 (1, 0). For the minutes, the first column has two :) :) - one in the 1 row, and one in the 2, which = 3. The next M column has a grand total of 7, taken from the :) :) :) in the 1, 2 and 4 rows. The seconds = 49, as there's a :) in the 4 row, and a 1+8=9, as represented by the last column.

The conclusion is...we should invent an androgyne clock. :laugh:



Posted on: March 24, 2008, 07:02:56 AM
Wow! That actually worked! (Though "wow" wasn't the word I'd originally been going to use... :P)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Seshatneferw on March 24, 2008, 09:54:28 AM
Quote from: Alyssa M. on March 24, 2008, 03:25:31 AM
Ah, but 12 has more factors: 2,3,4 and 6.
10 has just 2 and 5.

True, in some senses 12 is a better base than 10. So why do you keep switching all the time? I mean, all right, 12 inches to a foot makes sense, but why then 3 feet to a yard, 220 yards to a furlong, 8 furlongs to a mile and 3 miles to a league? And that's only length... >:D

  Nfr
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on March 24, 2008, 10:10:44 AM
Quote from: Alyssa M. on March 24, 2008, 03:59:20 AM
Or 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0011 1110 1000 for you all you binary people.

But there aren't any binary people around here, are there? <_<  :laugh:

LOL

This androgyne isn't great at math, so I'll just zone out from this thread for a while  ;)

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: lady amarant on March 24, 2008, 10:28:09 AM
Quote from: Seshatneferw on March 24, 2008, 09:54:28 AM
True, in some senses 12 is a better base than 10. So why do you keep switching all the time? I mean, all right, 12 inches to a foot makes sense, but why then 3 feet to a yard, 220 yards to a furlong, 8 furlongs to a mile and 3 miles to a league? And that's only length... >:D

Oy vey. My eyes just went all cross-eyed after that. I so like my metric!!!
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie j on March 24, 2008, 07:49:08 PM
Quote from: cindybc on March 24, 2008, 03:51:17 AM
Hmmmmm what are we calculating here anyway, the new coordinates for launching a starship? Or the reconstruction of the Quantum Level Puddle Jumper.

Cindy

not sure at all cindy iam just left feeling very very blond and very lost  after reading all this tho  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on March 24, 2008, 07:52:17 PM
I'm gonna cry.  Stop with all that math nonsense!  I'm not in school anymore!!!!!   :eusa_wall:


I would just like to say that something like 95% of the world's bourbon is made here in KY.  So you all need to come down here and visit me so you can get some (bourbon, that is, you dirty minded w****s...heh.  at least I didn't say that word that rhymes with 'keeps').

On St. Patty's Day, I tried some bourbon beer.  Yeah.  There you go.


*leaves bourbon on the porch to attract androgynes*

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 24, 2008, 08:24:31 PM
So you live in a place you refer to as KY an you don't want me thinking dirty thoughts?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie j on March 24, 2008, 08:36:21 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on March 24, 2008, 07:52:17 PM
I'm gonna cry.  Stop with all that math nonsense!  I'm not in school anymore!!!!!   :eusa_wall:


I would just like to say that something like 95% of the world's bourbon is made here in KY.  So you all need to come down here and visit me so you can get some (bourbon, that is, you dirty minded w****s...heh.  at least I didn't say that word that rhymes with 'keeps').

On St. Patty's Day, I tried some bourbon beer.  Yeah.  There you go.


*leaves bourbon on the porch to attract androgynes*



where should we park the tanker i just got filled with bourbon  jaimey ??? :icon_evil_laugh: :icon_evil_laugh:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Constance on March 25, 2008, 09:38:57 AM
Quote from: Jaimey on March 24, 2008, 07:52:17 PM
On St. Patty's Day, I tried some bourbon beer.  Yeah.  There you go.
Bourbon beer? Where, in the names of the gods, did you get that stuff? Are there any brews you'd recommend?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 25, 2008, 11:32:26 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on March 24, 2008, 08:24:31 PM
So you live in a place you refer to as KY an you don't want me thinking dirty thoughts?
some bourbon and KY will take care of those thoughts for you.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: tekla on March 25, 2008, 11:43:19 AM
I would just like to say that something like 95% of the world's bourbon is made here in KY

Oddly enough, a lot of it is made in dry counties, so you can make it, but not drink it.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 25, 2008, 12:43:06 PM
maybe i was too subtle...

WHERE IS KY? WHAT DOES IT STAND FOR? I DON'T LIVE IN SODDING LN DO I? ELUCIDATE BABY ELUCIDATE.

;D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Constance on March 25, 2008, 01:11:03 PM
KY = Kentucky
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 25, 2008, 01:46:13 PM
cheers, where the chicken comes from. I just thought I'd be unmild for a bit... I'm not even starting with Cindy's BC.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 25, 2008, 03:22:28 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on March 25, 2008, 01:46:13 PM
cheers, where the chicken comes from. I just thought I'd be unmild for a bit... I'm not even starting with Cindy's BC.
isn't BC British Columbia?


Since you associate Kentucky with chickens, you probably won't be receiving any friendly visits from Daniel Boone
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 25, 2008, 03:35:49 PM
Yep BC=British Columbia and I associate with anyone who wants to associate. I'll indulge anyone in a chin wag. I'll even engage in a conversation with a fence post if there is no one else to talk to. Only one thing wrong the don't answer my questions to well, maybe I'll try the utility pole.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 25, 2008, 04:23:53 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 25, 2008, 03:22:28 PM
Since you associate Kentucky with chickens, you probably won't be receiving any friendly visits from Daniel Boone

Boone is here in Missouri, (yes, he was in other places too).

That name is all over the damn place. You cannot go anywhere around here without seeing it. The house is pretty cool though.
Actually, I think my house is on former Boone land, or very close to it. It used to be a tobacco farm up until the Civil War. The neighbors across the street live in the former slaves quarters.  There is even an old family graveyard in the back corner of the property from back then.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 25, 2008, 08:38:55 PM
yeah, I remember reading that Boone was everywhere.


Must have been nice.  Just pick up and move.  No driver's license or birth certificate and crap like that.


wait a minute.  I thought you were in Mass, not Missouri.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 25, 2008, 09:45:47 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 25, 2008, 08:38:55 PM
yeah, I remember reading that Boone was everywhere.

Must have been nice.  Just pick up and move.  No driver's license or birth certificate and crap like that.

wait a minute.  I thought you were in Mass, not Missouri.
You got me mixed with someone else, but it is really not that hard to pick up and go Rebis (If I remember right you have thought about it).

I would argue it is easier to move these days than back then. It is safer and faster to travel, and you can find work and housing before you leave. Heck you can do all of it in mere days before you leave, or take a vacation to arrange things before hand. Sure there are more laws to navigate, but they are fewer than and not as difficult as you may think. I have changed states 4 times on my own, and an handful of times in the military. None were difficult.

Don't let the little things hold you down. Paperwork like licenses and birth certificates are not an issue. Only your mind is, I am far from a world traveler and I did it.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: tekla on March 25, 2008, 10:00:58 PM
D'nal Boone (closer to the way they pronounced it) just didn't like it when anyone got to live within a few miles of his house, so he kept moving.  One of the people who pioneered the way through the Cumberland Gap so the people from the East Coast could move to KY, he ended up cross the Mississippi, in Boone's Lick I think.

And, the number one maker of bourbon, Jack Daniel's Distillery, (Which has the #1 U.S Government permit to distill whiskey, in 1866) is located in Lynchburg, a place where it can't be sold.  Odd.  But Lynchburg is in Tennessee, not Kentucky, given that, I doubt that KY makes 95% as I bet the market share of all JD products is above 5%. 
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Emerald on March 26, 2008, 02:52:43 AM
Quote from: tekla on March 25, 2008, 10:00:58 PM

And, the number one maker of bourbon, Jack Daniel's Distillery, (Which has the #1 U.S Government permit to distill whiskey, in 1866) is located in Lynchburg, a place where it can't be sold.  Odd.  But Lynchburg is in Tennessee, not Kentucky, given that, I doubt that KY makes 95% as I bet the market share of all JD products is above 5%. 

Psst, tekla.. read the label on the bottle before you drink it!  :icon_drunk:
Jack Daniel's makes whiskey, but not bourbon. Jack Daniel's produces Tennessee Whiskey, a sour mash whiskey similar to but more refined than bourbon whiskey. Tennessee Whiskey was officially recognized as a unique style of whiskey by the US government in 1941. Jack Daniel's is the larger of the two currently existing Tennessee Whiskey distillers (George Dickel is the other one). The Jack Daniel's Distillery is located near the small town of Lynchburg Tennessee in Moore County... a county which does prohibit the sale of liquor, as do several other counties within the state. However in 1995, Tennessee law provided an exception to country law... a distillery within a 'dry' county is permitted to sell a commemorative alcohol product within the county, regardless of county statutes. Jack Daniel's can be legally purchased where it is manufactured.

-Emerald  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 26, 2008, 07:30:29 AM
Quote from: sd on March 25, 2008, 09:45:47 PM
Paperwork like licenses and birth certificates are not an issue. Only your mind is, I am far from a world traveler and I did it.
Indeed,  my mind is the issue.        [Why is there no emoticon with fingertips pressed together?]


    Actually, I like the idea of picking my food off of bushes and trees and hiking through forests and hills and streams and valleys.     I think this is why people are so stressed.   That travel time would be perfect for unwinding, forgetting the nonsense, and making you appreciate the shack that you were probably going to end up living in.

    Ducking hostiles sounds fun too.

I really do want to take off these days, though.  Not to escape, but to discover.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 26, 2008, 11:27:14 AM
Quote from: Rebis on March 26, 2008, 07:30:29 AM
Indeed,  my mind is the issue.        [Why is there no emoticon with fingertips pressed together?]


    Actually, I like the idea of picking my food off of bushes and trees and hiking through forests and hills and streams and valleys.     I think this is why people are so stressed.   That travel time would be perfect for unwinding, forgetting the nonsense, and making you appreciate the shack that you were probably going to end up living in.

    Ducking hostiles sounds fun too.

I really do want to take off these days, though.  Not to escape, but to discover.

Actually Rebis you can still travel that way. There is a pretty large hobo culture still riding trains and just plain hiking across the country on little to no money. My uncle does it when he gets tired of a place. If I remember right, last time he headed from Cali out to the mountains of New Mexico and ended up working construction in Mass. I think he left with 2 weeks food and maybe $200 or something. Will Weaton (actor on Star Trek) after the show, he tossed all he had into a storage locker and went riding trains for a year or 2 with no money. There still a lot of hitchhikers out there as well. There are scores of people traveling the planet with nothing, that sort of travel still exists, it may not be as dominant, but it does exist. Plus, with the advent of wire transfers and ATM's, you could head out with nothing and get money instantly if you got into trouble.

I am not trying to push you to go, just letting you know that what you want to do, is far from impossible, in fact some would say it is very easy. If you really want to try, next vacation time you get, go for a week or two, you could always catch a bus home at the end for cheap.

Here is an idea, why not try the easy and safe route, jump in the car and start driving, if you see something interesting, stop (old Route 66 is perfect for this). You never know where you may end up, you can sleep in truck stops, and even get a shower there. Eat things you pack. You can get across the country in a week easy and for only a bit more than the cost of gas. 2 weeks is more than enough time.

Even if you only get out of town, it can be very liberating and fun.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 26, 2008, 03:09:02 PM
it is nice to just go, that was one of the appeals of spain
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on March 26, 2008, 07:37:40 PM
...you know, pica, i never really thought about the ky thing...heh.  probably because i don't think of it as 'kay-why'...


and em's right about the jack daniels thing.  that's a different kind of whiskey. :D  i'm pretty sure it was an accident too...something about the barrels...there was a thing on the history channel.  the bourbon beer...i have no idea...my roommates brought it home.  but you can make it yourself!  it's called a 'boilermaker', i believe...just put some bourbon in your beer.  I think Maker's Mark is probably the biggest bourbon maker...it's in Bardstown...a little south of here, but we have lots of distilleries...i never thought about it, but most of KY's (read: Kentucky's...smarty pants) counties are dry...that's funny.  hehe.

i would love to be a fly on the wall in this thread...heheheh.  we went from mild mannered androgynes to bourbon and daniel boone.  hehe.  i love us.  :icon_love:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 26, 2008, 08:40:38 PM

sometimes I feel I'm so utterly mild tempered that I'm basically waiting through my life.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie j on March 26, 2008, 08:52:33 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 26, 2008, 08:40:38 PM

sometimes I feel I'm so utterly mild tempered that I'm basically waiting through my life.

:eusa_think: :eusa_think: :icon_pepsi:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 26, 2008, 09:15:16 PM

Like I'm doing nothing beyond waiting for my life to completely pass by.

Like my life is similar to standing at a bus stop or maybe I'm trying to say it feels like my life has as much meaning as if I were just standing at a bus stop for the entire time.

shoot
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 26, 2008, 09:52:35 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 26, 2008, 09:15:16 PM

Like I'm doing nothing beyond waiting for my life to completely pass by.

Like my life is similar to standing at a bus stop or maybe I'm trying to say it feels like my life has as much meaning as if I were just standing at a bus stop for the entire time.

shoot

I often feel the same way, and then I look back and I am surprised at all I have done and experienced.  I know that may sound like I have lead an exciting life, compared to some probably not, but compared to others, definitely.

Life is what you make of it Rebis

I am not saying grab life by the horns or anything silly like that, I am not that type of person myself usually, but it seems clear to me you need to get out and experience something new. It does not need to be life changing, meaningful or expensive, just something or someplace new. Step out of your shell for a bit, see the world. Look on the net at some interesting things to see in the nearest major city, jump in your car and go.  No plan, just a list of things to see or do, preferably more than you have time for (makes it more exciting and leaves you wanting more).

You need to do something like this, don't think about it, just do it.

If you do nothing, then yes, your life is just passing you by.
What is life without something to look forward to or look back on.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on March 26, 2008, 10:01:37 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 26, 2008, 09:15:16 PM

Like I'm doing nothing beyond waiting for my life to completely pass by.

Like my life is similar to standing at a bus stop or maybe I'm trying to say it feels like my life has as much meaning as if I were just standing at a bus stop for the entire time.

shoot

I think we all need to show up at your house for a "cheer up Reeb" party  :D

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie j on March 26, 2008, 10:06:41 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 26, 2008, 09:15:16 PM

Like I'm doing nothing beyond waiting for my life to completely pass by.

Like my life is similar to standing at a bus stop or maybe I'm trying to say it feels like my life has as much meaning as if I were just standing at a bus stop for the entire time.

shoot

oh ok rebis hun i know what you mean . i used to feel like that . untill i just started walking.  :). oh dont

get me wrong  some times a bus going by stops and gives me a ride from time to time. which is ok . but

for some reason i just seam to keep walking. dont know why . but yet i got to say it,s fun . but i still like

the company  :icon_hug: :icon_hug: :icon_hug: btw have a  :icon_pepsi: on me  :)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Simone Louise on March 26, 2008, 10:20:58 PM
And the unicorns said to Rebis: "Go forth from your native land and out of your father's house to seek your self, your blessing, and your life." Follow Pica Pica to Spain or Dan'l to Missouri or Brad Angier to BC. Make some waves. If only for a little while.

Don't wait for the bus; start walking. Hop a freight. Hang glide off a cliff.

Or as my mother would say when I complained I was bored and had nothing to do, "Why don't you clean your room?"

Simone  ;)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 26, 2008, 11:18:03 PM
Quote from: Simone Louise on March 26, 2008, 10:20:58 PM
Or as my mother would say when I complained I was bored and had nothing to do, "Why don't you clean your room?"

Simone  ;)

Best incentive to get a kid to go outside if there ever was one.

Rebis, clean your room or go outside!
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 27, 2008, 05:57:49 AM
and wanderlust descended on the androgynes
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 27, 2008, 09:51:43 AM

Oh, I'm feeling okay and all.  I just have a habit of doing nothing when I should be doing something.   I have a head full of ideas, but I'm not expressing any of them.


Maybe I'll take the train up to the Boston museum of science or something.

Thanks everybody.  They are all good ideas.   The weather has changed and I'm going to be wandering around town again soon.

:)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 27, 2008, 12:32:27 PM
Good idea Rebis.

I'm so happy that you are feeling better and don't worry, I think we all go through periods where we feel unproductive.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 27, 2008, 02:26:06 PM

Back to the question -
QuoteWhy Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?


Because someone put cough medicine in our bourbon.  [is there a vomiting emoticon?]
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Constance on March 27, 2008, 03:31:52 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 27, 2008, 02:26:06 PM

Back to the question -
QuoteWhy Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?


Because someone put cough medicine in our bourbon.  [is there a vomiting emoticon?]
If you consume enough bourbon, it can act like cough medicine. My wife's favorite cough medicine come in a bit bottle that says "Christian Brothers Brandy" on the label.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 27, 2008, 03:42:34 PM
Rum, honey, mixed in hot water, use to be the old remedy for colds. I have been using Echanacia capsules, over the counter. I haven't had a cold or the flue in four years, I also quit smoking about 5 months ago.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 27, 2008, 04:08:49 PM
Quote from: cindybc on March 27, 2008, 03:42:34 PM
I haven't had a cold or the flue in four years, I also quit smoking about 5 months ago.

Cindy

Can I just say I hate you right now.  ;D

I get almost every flu and cold that comes my way, when the season starts I do all I can to stay away from people.


Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 27, 2008, 04:13:35 PM

The secret is to shun breeders and their offspring.

Don't touch your eyes or nose.

Wash your hands often, especially after being near people or touching anything another person has touched.

Cover your face with something if people try to breathe near you.  They don't like it, but them and their germs can go to hell for all I care.

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Constance on March 27, 2008, 04:45:11 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 27, 2008, 04:13:35 PM
The secret is to shun breeders and their offspring.
And what should one do if one is a breeder with offspring?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on March 27, 2008, 04:50:09 PM
You can hide under my rock, lost of room under there.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: lady amarant on March 27, 2008, 05:10:26 PM
Quote from: Shades O'Grey on March 27, 2008, 04:45:11 PM
And what should one do if one is a breeder with offspring?

*giggle* Well you're just well and thoroughly screwed then, aren't you! ;)

Though one would think that you have probably built up a resistance to things, whereas we who have not had the benefit of exposure are in dire, mortal danger!
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 27, 2008, 06:35:43 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 27, 2008, 04:13:35 PMThe secret is to shun breeders and their offspring.

Don't touch your eyes or nose.

Wash your hands often, especially after being near people or touching anything another person has touched.

Cover your face with something if people try to breathe near you.  They don't like it, but them and their germs can go to hell for all I care.
Unfortunately my job has me in and out of offices touching other peoples keyboards and mice. I wash my hands a lot.

Shunning would be a bad idea, my work is based on referrals.
Besides, I would not mind being a breeder.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 27, 2008, 07:56:10 PM
Quote from: Shades O'Grey on March 27, 2008, 04:45:11 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 27, 2008, 04:13:35 PM
The secret is to shun breeders and their offspring.
And what should one do if one is a breeder with offspring?
run away from yourself.

Posted on: March 27, 2008, 06:10:04 PM
Quote from: sd on March 27, 2008, 06:35:43 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 27, 2008, 04:13:35 PMThe secret is to shun breeders and their offspring.

Don't touch your eyes or nose.

Wash your hands often, especially after being near people or touching anything another person has touched.

Cover your face with something if people try to breathe near you.  They don't like it, but them and their germs can go to hell for all I care.
Unfortunately my job has me in and out of offices touching other peoples keyboards and mice. I wash my hands a lot.

Shunning would be a bad idea, my work is based on referrals.
Besides, I would not mind being a breeder.
Breeding's not so bad as long as you don't get caught doing it.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on March 27, 2008, 07:56:37 PM
I must confess that I would also like to be a breeder...but I will only produce wonderful, kind understanding offspring...because they'll be just like me.  :icon_yes:  Damn skippy.  hehe.

I once drank a fifth's worth of whiskey in hot totties (thank goodness I couldn't taste anything...ugh) and the next day I couldn't even tell I'd been sick.  It only worked the once, though.  I haven't been sick enough to not taste since then.  I guess that's a good thing though...
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 27, 2008, 08:10:33 PM
I want children.
And whisky.
And children bearing whisky.

My mate grace said I was the broodiest man she'd ever met, this was before we realised I wasn't a man o course.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie j on March 27, 2008, 08:26:42 PM
Quote from: cindybc on March 27, 2008, 04:50:09 PM
You can hide under my rock, lost of room under there.

Cindy

:eusa_think: :eusa_think: humm a good hideing place :eusa_think: :eusa_think:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Seshatneferw on March 28, 2008, 03:50:48 AM
Quote from: Rebis on March 27, 2008, 07:56:10 PM
Breeding's not so bad as long as you don't get caught doing it.   :laugh:

Don't ask, don't tell?

Quote from: Pica Pica on March 27, 2008, 08:10:33 PM
I want children.
And whisky.
And children bearing whisky.

As long as it's not children marinated in whisky. ;) And please remember, the kind of whisky that's spelled without an e.

Although, come to think of it, one might try how much a toddy made of an Islay malt and hot water would differ from one made of Bourbon and Lapsang Souchong tea. Then again, why bother?  :)

  Nfr
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: ImKim on March 28, 2008, 08:27:04 AM
I can be pretty agressive at times, but at the same time i don't give a damn about alot of things. By the way, being adrogyne is about not being put in a gender box right? Then why trying to put a defination on androgynes personality, we're different people with all kinds of backgrounds. Seems like alot of you, are being a rebel against those categories , but still searching for one.

Hope you get what i mean?

-Sorry my english
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Simone Louise on March 28, 2008, 08:48:54 AM
Outside of falling off the loading dock onto my head and my recent operation, I've only logged two sick days in six and one-half years at UPS. I believe that record is due to eating a variety of fruits (including bananas, blueberries, and strawberries daily) and nuts each day. I enjoy sipping whisky and bourbon but for sore throats I keep a bottle of Italian grappa. The best comes from the little town of Chiaverano, but it isn't available here. I also enjoy an occasional glass of Cynar (from artichokes) before dinner, though appetite is not a family problem.

Our mild temperament should also benefit our health.

Be well,
Simone
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 28, 2008, 10:30:48 AM
Quote from: ImKim on March 28, 2008, 08:27:04 AM
I can be pretty agressive at times, but at the same time i don't give a damn about alot of things. By the way, being adrogyne is about not being put in a gender box right? Then why trying to put a defination on androgynes personality, we're different people with all kinds of backgrounds. Seems like alot of you, are being a rebel against those categories , but still searching for one.

Hope you get what i mean?

-Sorry my english
Hi,

   We're not really trying to find a new box.  We're trying to figure out what we have that's common between us.  We know that not all androgynes are mild tempered in real life, but, at this site, we've a tendency to be mellow.
   
   
So far, I think some of the similarities are:

nothing written in stone, I guess.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on March 28, 2008, 12:25:34 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 28, 2008, 10:30:48 AM
So far, I think some of the similarities are:

  • Being mellow
  • mild or off and on GID symptoms
  • sense of humor
  • discomfort in being addressed as our birth sex, but living with it.
  • Female bodied tend to desire some male physicality or neutralization of secondary characteristics
  • Male bodied tend to desire at least some physical female attributes.
  • Discomfort in some social situations

nothing written in stone, I guess.


Wow Rebis! 22 pages into the off topic thread to end all off topic threads, and you've actually brought us back on topic! A true miracle  :laugh:

That's a pretty good list. I'd add unwillingness to engage in conflict, thus seeming to be mellow about things when in fact we might feel quite passionate about wishing resolution.

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 28, 2008, 12:34:24 PM

right.  I was just tossing off some things from the top of my head.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaycie on March 28, 2008, 12:46:57 PM
Well,  just by that list it looks like i get to play the trendbreaker again.  ^_^

Newp   * Being mellow 

More than mild i'd say   * mild or off and on GID symptoms

A twisted one that most don't follow    * sense of humor

No need to 'live with it' when one can do something about it     * discomfort in being addressed as our birth sex, but living with it.

n/a    * Female bodied tend to desire some male physicality or neutralization of secondary characteristics
n/a    * Male bodied tend to desire at least some physical female attributes.

Not attributed to any 'gender issues' at least.    * Discomfort in some social situations

And i'm quite willing to engage in conflict when the situation warrants.  So really,  trying to come up with lists and new categorizations will only apply to the people answering in similar ways in that singular location. So rather than 'androgyne-identified people are typically X' it instead becomes 'some people posting in the androgyne section of the forum are X'. Trying to spread it to anything more than that runs into the same stereotypes that most can see are absolute trash.  ^^
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 28, 2008, 12:49:58 PM
Quote from: ImKim on March 28, 2008, 08:27:04 AM
I can be pretty agressive at times, but at the same time i don't give a damn about alot of things. By the way, being adrogyne is about not being put in a gender box right? Then why trying to put a defination on androgynes personality, we're different people with all kinds of backgrounds. Seems like alot of you, are being a rebel against those categories , but still searching for one.

Hope you get what i mean?

-Sorry my english

I don't think we are rebels against gender, at least not willingly. Would you say that to an mtf or ftm? For them it is not really a choice, same here. I always tried to fit in, I was confused about why I did not fit in. It was not a matter of trying to bend the rules or be different, I was different and wanted to be normal.

We are not really trying to put ourselves in a box. We are just trying to find the commonalities and a better understanding of ourselves. Most of us have never really had anyone who understood us and now we have found others like ourselves we are exploring that. Most people experience this daily so it is not something they even take notice of, for us it is exciting and new.

I have to admit though, I would like to find some commonalities and figure out a better definition than those floating around the internet about us. I have yet to see a good one. Most are filled with generalizations that fit 90% of the population. Not necessarily a set of rules, but some sort of definition for outsiders to better grasp who and what we are. Does that put us in a box? No, we are still a very diverse group of people.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Caroline on March 28, 2008, 12:51:38 PM
Quote from: JC on March 28, 2008, 12:46:57 PM
And i'm quite willing to engage in conflict when the situation warrants.  So really,  trying to come up with lists and new categorizations will only apply to the people answering in similar ways in that singular location. So rather than 'androgyne-identified people are typically X' it instead becomes 'some people posting in the androgyne section of the forum are X'. Trying to spread it to anything more than that runs into the same stereotypes that most can see are absolute trash.  ^^

Quite.  One only needs to take a look at the site definitions to see the self-fulfilling prophecy here. 
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 28, 2008, 12:57:27 PM
Quote from: JC on March 28, 2008, 12:46:57 PM
So really,  trying to come up with lists and new categorizations will only apply to the people answering in similar ways in that singular location. So rather than 'androgyne-identified people are typically X' it instead becomes 'some people posting in the androgyne section of the forum are X'. Trying to spread it to anything more than that runs into the same stereotypes that most can see are absolute trash.  ^^
I agree.  I was just tired and not thinking too well.   <---- (see how I wormed myself out of a possible conflict? - I am the master wormer!)


seriously, I was just blathering.   :)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 28, 2008, 03:34:18 PM
well i like the idea of finding commonalities, even if we manufacture them a bit. I'm sodding fed up of not being a part of something, of drifting around alone without peers or connection. I for one would want to put myself in a box if it was a friendly box with nice people in it.

I'm not an androgyne because I am an bloody awkward sod who refuses to fit in, I am an androgyne because I am psychologically neither male or female.

(Edited to remove swearing. I was very upset about this.)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaycie on March 28, 2008, 04:05:48 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on March 28, 2008, 03:34:18 PM
...I am an androgyne because I am psychologically neither male or female.


Isn't that all you need then?  In that sentance you've made a distinction that defines a group. There's no need ( imo ) to take the term and try to whittle it down in artificial ways that end up excluding people who feel similarly. If you must attempt such though you can always make up a brand new word for androgynes who are ______ , but trying to narrow down an identification by commonalities that aren't so common serves no real purpose other than to stroke egos.

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Simone Louise on March 28, 2008, 04:35:57 PM
Too bad, Rebis. I liked your list and could see myself in each point. It's not a list of membership qualifications, but it does seem to express the positions of a certain subset within this forum. Nero identified this group as "calm, cool, and collected" as opposed to those "whose blood runs near the surface". No one has attacked that characterization until now. We've been able to discuss politics and religion, for instance, without any bitter disputes. Another topic showed that a significant proportion among us have rejected the full transsexual option, at least for now. Anyone is welcome to post here, so no generalizations about posters could be valid. But it is because a critical number fit your list that I, for one, keep coming back.

And once again, I have to leave you to cook the Sabbath chicken,
Simone
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: ImKim on March 29, 2008, 12:55:18 AM
Ok i have one thing to add. When i said rebel i didn't mean you choosed to be androgyne just to provoke, sorry about that :)
I just meant, you're probarly against the categories which only contains "male" "female" that's how i wanted to say it.

I understand the comfort of being in a box, and it's your choice ofcourse :)

And thanks for answering me, nothing of this was meant in an evil way.

Posted on: March 28, 2008, 11:53:43 PM
Quote from: JC on March 28, 2008, 04:05:48 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on March 28, 2008, 03:34:18 PM
...I am an androgyne because I am psychologically neither male or female.


Isn't that all you need then?  In that sentance you've made a distinction that defines a group. There's no need ( imo ) to take the term and try to whittle it down in artificial ways that end up excluding people who feel similarly. If you must attempt such though you can always make up a brand new word for androgynes who are ______ , but trying to narrow down an identification by commonalities that aren't so common serves no real purpose other than to stroke egos.



I agree, that's exactly my opinion.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 29, 2008, 02:56:03 AM
Quote from: ImKim on March 29, 2008, 12:55:18 AM
Ok i have one thing to add. When i said rebel i didn't mean you choosed to be androgyne just to provoke, sorry about that :)
I just meant, you're probarly against the categories which only contains "male" "female" that's how i wanted to say it.

I understand the comfort of being in a box, and it's your choice ofcourse :)

And thanks for answering me, nothing of this was meant in an evil way.

I didn't think you meant anything by it.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Seshatneferw on March 29, 2008, 12:44:11 PM
Quote from: Zythyra on March 28, 2008, 12:25:34 PM
Wow Rebis! 22 pages into the off topic thread to end all off topic threads, and you've actually brought us back on topic! A true miracle  :laugh:

Of course, by now the original topic is off-topic, so it's quite all right.  :D

But yes, it's a good list.

Quote from: JC on March 28, 2008, 04:05:48 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on March 28, 2008, 03:34:18 PM
...I am an androgyne because I am psychologically neither male or female.

Isn't that all you need then?  In that sentance you've made a distinction that defines a group. There's no need ( imo ) to take the term and try to whittle it down in artificial ways that end up excluding people who feel similarly.

Yes and no. Yes, that's all you need to define androgynes as a group. But then again, no: it's useful to see if there are traits that are more common in this group than in some others, because that can help understand just why we are the way we are. 'Know thyself' and all that, if you will.

Personally, I think that some of the traits in the list (most notably a mild case of GID, a sense of humour, and a degree of mellowness) have contributed to my being androgyne instead of either of the binary genders -- and furthermore, some realisation of these contributing factors has helped me deal with my gender issues. On the other hand, some of the traits do not feel like me (most notably, I don't care whether people address me as my birth sex, as long as they don't make too wildly invalid assumptions based on that perceived sex). Still, that's just me, but I hope you noticed that Rebis didn't claim eir list was authoritative in any sense.

  Nfr
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 29, 2008, 02:07:21 PM

I am an authority on nothing.   :P
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Seshatneferw on March 29, 2008, 02:15:17 PM
Yes, and you know that particular subject quite thoroughly. :)

  Nfr
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 29, 2008, 02:29:51 PM

I may soon begin teaching nothing to students if I can find any.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: lady amarant on March 29, 2008, 03:03:38 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 29, 2008, 02:29:51 PM

I may soon begin teaching nothing to students if I can find any.

This humble student requests knowledge of the nothingness master.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on March 29, 2008, 03:04:06 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 29, 2008, 02:07:21 PM

I am an authority on nothing.   :P

Ah, you might be interested in the diety, Bupkes Nada, who I discovered a few years ago  ;) The ultimate authority on nothing :laugh:

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 29, 2008, 05:57:59 PM
Quote from: lady amarant on March 29, 2008, 03:03:38 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 29, 2008, 02:29:51 PM

I may soon begin teaching nothing to students if I can find any.

This humble student requests knowledge of the nothingness master.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: lady amarant on March 29, 2008, 06:19:53 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 29, 2008, 05:57:59 PM
Quote from: lady amarant on March 29, 2008, 03:03:38 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 29, 2008, 02:29:51 PM

I may soon begin teaching nothing to students if I can find any.

This humble student requests knowledge of the nothingness master.

  • begin by forgetting everything you have ever learned.
  • when someone tells you something: forget it
  • never read more than a paragraph of any article or book
  • listen to what your Television tells you
  • If you find yourself inside of a school:  immediately seek the nearest exit
  • don't work for money
  • don't ever travel anywhere that you may accomplish a task

This humble student thanks the master for such wisdom. May the student retire to do nothing for a while?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 29, 2008, 06:36:50 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 29, 2008, 05:57:59 PM

  • begin by forgetting everything you have ever learned.
  • when someone tells you something: forget it
  • never read more than a paragraph of any article or book
  • listen to what your Television tells you
  • If you find yourself inside of a school:  immediately seek the nearest exit
  • don't work for money
  • don't ever travel anywhere that you may accomplish a task

Hey! I already took that class, it was called military service. 

In fact I did more than 4 years, where the heck is my degree?  :P
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 29, 2008, 07:08:19 PM
Quote from: lady amarant on March 29, 2008, 06:19:53 PM
This humble student thanks the master for such wisdom. May the student retire to do nothing for a while?
always.

Posted on: March 29, 2008, 06:07:27 PM
Quote from: sd on March 29, 2008, 06:36:50 PM
Hey! I already took that class, it was called military service.

In fact I did more than 4 years, where the heck is my degree?  :P
degrees mean nothing.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 29, 2008, 07:31:57 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 29, 2008, 07:08:19 PM
degrees mean nothing.
They do to Human Resources, not much to anyone else.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 29, 2008, 08:01:49 PM
You can always lie about them. (just kidding)  I wouldn't lie, and I don't have any degrees anyway and wouldn't even know how to lie one up.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 29, 2008, 08:47:28 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 29, 2008, 08:01:49 PM
You can always lie about them. (just kidding)  I wouldn't lie, and I don't have any degrees anyway and wouldn't even know how to lie one up.
There is a trend developing, basically if they do not recognize your school they do not consider it a legitimate degree. Too many fakes.

Experience and references are the best bet these days.
I have both and self employed, no problems here, but that piece of paper would be nice.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 29, 2008, 08:55:52 PM
i actually have a degree in nothing, it was a philosophy BA.

Also Rebis only posited their list as a personal response, not as cannon.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 29, 2008, 09:42:18 PM
right, because, having no degree, I never would have thought of trying a cannon.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Eva Marie on March 30, 2008, 01:24:02 AM
Quote from: sd on February 07, 2008, 01:24:05 PM
I have the feeling that people come to expect us to be mild mannered so much so that when we express anger it often comes across wrong. We do not do it enough to express it as well as they do so it shocks them. Just as many things in life practice makes perfect, we lack the practice I guess. My anger comes across at about the same level as what they consider being aggravated except I make a big show of it. When others get angry, they are on a level than I can't even grasp, and that is not even the hot heads.

Same here, if I ever fly off the handle then it is so unexpected and so "unlike me" to be upset as to cause a problem. People see me as the "rock" of reason; I am not allowed to show emotion since people see me as unemotional and reasoned, and it scares them when i'm not. Like you said, it shocks them. I've always been calm and have always been able to see most if not all sides of a situation.

It is a drag sometimes having to be the responsible person and having to clean up some kind of mess.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Lutin on March 30, 2008, 01:56:30 AM
I know! I'm usually very calm and quiet, whereas my mum and brother (15) argue A LOT, and because they always get so irritated with each other I'm always left to be the peace-keeper and make everything happy again - which I don't really mind, and it's all fine and hunky-dory and whatever, until they get upset with each other, and *then* do something which really annoys/angers me (and I don't anger easily), 'cause then it means that to avoid World War III I have to bottle everything up rather than get angry too. It's SO ANNOYING!!!

But at least I should make a good diplomat. ;)

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Seshatneferw on March 30, 2008, 06:58:18 AM
Quote from: Rebis on March 29, 2008, 09:42:18 PM
having no degree, I never would have thought of trying a cannon.

That's just lack of ambition and imagination -- my hands-on experience with artillery was back before I'd spent enough time inside a university to get a degree.

  Nfr
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Simone Louise on March 31, 2008, 08:30:46 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on March 29, 2008, 08:55:52 PM
i actually have a degree in nothing, it was a philosophy BA.

Me too! Plus I have a BS in Dairy from Cow College, giving me intimate knowledge of the cow's most prolific product. Degrees like ours really impress HR.

Simone
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 31, 2008, 10:22:44 AM
Quote from: Simone Louise on March 31, 2008, 08:30:46 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on March 29, 2008, 08:55:52 PM
i actually have a degree in nothing, it was a philosophy BA.

Me too! Plus I have a BS in Dairy from Cow College, giving me intimate knowledge of the cow's most prolific product. Degrees like ours really impress HR.

Simone

are you sure milk is it's most prolific product?


also, does that mean you are an androgyne cowboy?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Constance on March 31, 2008, 10:27:47 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on March 31, 2008, 10:22:44 AM
also, does that mean you are an androgyne cowboy?
Not "an androgyne cowboy" but a cowbeing.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Simone Louise on March 31, 2008, 12:13:55 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on March 31, 2008, 10:22:44 AM
Quote from: Simone Louise on March 31, 2008, 08:30:46 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on March 29, 2008, 08:55:52 PM
i actually have a degree in nothing, it was a philosophy BA.

Me too! Plus I have a BS in Dairy from Cow College, giving me intimate knowledge of the cow's most prolific product. Degrees like ours really impress HR.

Simone

are you sure milk is it's most prolific product?


also, does that mean you are an androgyne cowboy?

Milk is only hir commercially most valuable product.

If we now refer to the mailman as a letter carrier, shouldn't we refer to the cowboy as a calf carrier?

Simone
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 31, 2008, 01:30:56 PM

Pica wants to be a cowgyne.

Wait, cows are female and 'gyne' is the female part of the word, so then they would want to be an androcow or androvine.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 31, 2008, 01:34:02 PM
Quote from: Simone Louise on March 31, 2008, 12:13:55 PM
If we now refer to the mailman as a letter carrier, shouldn't we refer to the cowboy as a calf carrier?

Simone
He does not actually carry the cow. He could carry the calf, but not for long.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: tekla on March 31, 2008, 02:32:46 PM
That's funny, when people ask me what I do I ask them if they know what a ranchhand or cowhand does.  They say sure, and I tell them I'm a stagehand, I do the same deal on a stage, kind of like a stagepoke.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on March 31, 2008, 02:51:08 PM
Soy is high in natural estrogen, so male-bodied androgynes wishing to appear female should probably drink lots of soy milk from those soy producing cows  :P Androgynes wishing to appear male should probably just eat the poor cows >:D

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 31, 2008, 04:03:43 PM
Quote from: Zythyra on March 31, 2008, 02:51:08 PM
Soy is high in natural estrogen, so male-bodied androgynes wishing to appear female should probably drink lots of soy milk from those soy producing cows  :P Androgynes wishing to appear male should probably just eat the poor cows >:D

Z

Mmmmm steak.

If only it were that easy Zythyra.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on March 31, 2008, 04:45:16 PM
Quote from: sd on March 31, 2008, 04:03:43 PM
Mmmmm steak.

If only it were that easy Zythyra.

Yes sd, if only. I've certainly eaten more than my share of tofu and sweet potatoes  ::)

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie j on March 31, 2008, 08:52:06 PM
iam glad i eat lots of fruit,s and such  ;D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on March 31, 2008, 09:34:20 PM
I once ate a steak and I knew it's name.  Does that make me a heartless bastard?  :icon_evil_laugh: 


Degrees are useless.  Every time I tell someone that I have a degree in geography, they all say the same thing, "what can you do with that?"  Nothing, apparently. 

As for trying cannons, would you be the one lighting it or the poor sap being shot from it?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 31, 2008, 09:38:25 PM
you could say that you can age rocks or know how the world fits together or something. All I can say is that I can fall asleep while people go on about nothing.......really just like school assemblies/health and safety talks.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on March 31, 2008, 09:51:26 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on March 31, 2008, 09:34:20 PM
I once ate a steak and I knew it's name.  Does that make me a heartless bastard?  :icon_evil_laugh: 


Degrees are useless.  Every time I tell someone that I have a degree in geography, they all say the same thing, "what can you do with that?"  Nothing, apparently. 

As for trying cannons, would you be the one lighting it or the poor sap being shot from it?

Lets aim the cannon at the cow and make steaks.  >:D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Ell on March 31, 2008, 10:24:28 PM
ooh, ooh! we have school assemblies, too!  i cahn't b'lieve et.

hard to find a kidney pie, though, or a good old spotted dick.



(and sorry about this post not being as you left it. I wanted to quote your comment and say it was a weird co-incidence as I was eating spotted dick - but i pressed the wrong button and wrote over you thing... sorry. Pica)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 31, 2008, 10:26:50 PM

If it's a cow, then they would be Miss steaks wouldn't they?


Ha!   I wormed in the only pun I ever intentionally thought of.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Constance on March 31, 2008, 10:29:49 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 31, 2008, 10:26:50 PM

If it's a cow, then they would be Miss steaks wouldn't they?


Ha!   I wormed in the only pun I ever intentionally thought of.
Ye gods, that was great bad horrible ... well ... it was something.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Eva Marie on March 31, 2008, 11:29:18 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on March 31, 2008, 09:34:20 PM
I once ate a steak and I knew it's name.  Does that make me a heartless bastard?  :icon_evil_laugh: 

only if it was well done  :D

A degree is just a tool in your personal toolbox that you may be able to leverage in your life. I own my own relatively successful company and only possess a lowly two year degree; my degree has been worthless as far as my career goes. Far more important is attitude and the willingness to work hard.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on March 31, 2008, 11:38:17 PM
Quote from: riven_one on March 31, 2008, 11:29:18 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on March 31, 2008, 09:34:20 PM
I once ate a steak and I knew it's name.  Does that make me a heartless bastard?  :icon_evil_laugh: 

only if it was well done  :D

Androgynes are a rare breed  :laugh:

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on April 02, 2008, 10:13:31 PM
Quote from: Rebis on March 31, 2008, 10:26:50 PM

If it's a cow, then they would be Miss steaks wouldn't they?


Ha!   I wormed in the only pun I ever intentionally thought of.

hehehe...i love your pun.  :icon_love:

Quote from: Zythyra on March 31, 2008, 11:38:17 PM
Quote from: riven_one on March 31, 2008, 11:29:18 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on March 31, 2008, 09:34:20 PM
I once ate a steak and I knew it's name.  Does that make me a heartless bastard?  :icon_evil_laugh: 

only if it was well done  :D

Androgynes are a rare breed  :laugh:

Z

:-* you silly pun-makers!  Is it possible to have a pun fetish?  :icon_weee:


that reminds me of a song by Liam Lynch.  It's called, "I'm all bloody inside".  heh.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Simone Louise on April 03, 2008, 08:43:09 AM
Thanks Jaimey. I'm still bloody inside. Perhaps that's TMI. I just want to go back to work and burn off more of the food I eat anyway.

Last night, I thought we'd use up the leftover roast chicken from Friday night, so I made chicken lo mein. It tasted good, and I timed dinner so my daughter asked to be excused just before my wife arrived back from New York. The former was not thrilled to be summoned back to sit and converse; she missed the end of a NEW Criminal Minds. Tonight it's back to using one of those cows you guys shot for a small roast with garlic cauliflower. What are you vegans serving?

I think I'll start signing my posts 'S', ala Zythyra's 'Z'. That's how I sign e-mails to my wife, and no one else is using it yet.

Here's to peaceful converse and good food,
S
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Lutin on April 03, 2008, 09:40:27 AM
Hear, hear! I'll drink to that, bottoms up!

QuoteI think I'll start signing my posts 'S', ala Zythyra's 'Z'. That's how I sign e-mails to my wife, and no one else is using it yet.

*Now* I feel slack - I don't sign mine at all, half the time.  Guilt-trip me, why don't you.... ;)

Lutin :icon_cute:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Simone Louise on April 03, 2008, 10:51:11 AM
Quote from: Lutin on April 03, 2008, 09:40:27 AM
Hear, hear! I'll drink to that, bottoms up!

QuoteI think I'll start signing my posts 'S', ala Zythyra's 'Z'. That's how I sign e-mails to my wife, and no one else is using it yet.

*Now* I feel slack - I don't sign mine at all, half the time.  Guilt-trip me, why don't you.... ;)

Lutin :icon_cute:

Lutin, Lutin:

I missed signing my last posting, and I surely don't set fashions and norms here. Z, Rebis, Jaimey, Nero, and Pica Pica are among those I look to as androgyne role models. From personal experience, I'd recommend you avoid getting mired down in guilt; when I worry about past mistakes, I am more likely to be making more mistakes in the present. As for signing, I guess it is one way to take responsibility for the words I write, and a signal that I cede the floor to the next speaker.

As you were,  ;)
S
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on April 03, 2008, 11:41:46 AM

Thank you for the nice words, S, but I'm not sure the others qualify for such praise.   :P
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on April 03, 2008, 07:18:12 PM
But Simone, I'm working on my beard because of you.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on April 03, 2008, 07:52:52 PM
Quote from: Simone Louise on April 03, 2008, 10:51:11 AM
I missed signing my last posting, and I surely don't set fashions and norms here. Z, Rebis, Jaimey, Nero, and Pica Pica are among those I look to as androgyne role models.

Simone,

That's nice of you to think of me as a role model... however I have no idea of what I'm doing. Just living out here on the edge of gender without a safety net  :laugh:

Quote from: Pica Pica on April 03, 2008, 07:18:12 PM
But Simone, I'm working on my beard because of you.

A bearded Pica!!  :o OK, perhaps a goatee could work for you  :)

I was bearded for many years. Not anymore though, it's kinda hard to pass as female w/ a beard.  ::)

Zythyra
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Lutin on April 04, 2008, 04:15:01 AM
If it weren't for my undeniable X-X chromosomes ::), I'd grow a moustache. Maybe not a beard, just 'cause I feel furry enough already (one week after plucking my eyebrows I have a Frida Kahlo monobrow again! It's crazy!), but a moustache would be kinda cool... 8)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: lady amarant on April 04, 2008, 05:10:28 AM
Quote from: Lutin on April 04, 2008, 04:15:01 AM
If it weren't for my undeniable X-X chromosomes ::), I'd grow a moustache. Maybe not a beard, just 'cause I feel furry enough already (one week after plucking my eyebrows I have a Frida Kahlo monobrow again! It's crazy!), but a moustache would be kinda cool... 8)

Tried it once upon a time in my effort to convince everybody of how manly I was (liek that was ever gonna work...) but thankfully I could not quite get the technique of the soup-strainer down properly.

~Simone,
      Recovering Bearded Lady.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on April 04, 2008, 08:05:05 AM
Quote from: Lutin on April 04, 2008, 04:15:01 AM
If it weren't for my undeniable X-X chromosomes ::), I'd grow a moustache. Maybe not a beard, just 'cause I feel furry enough already (one week after plucking my eyebrows I have a Frida Kahlo monobrow again! It's crazy!), but a moustache would be kinda cool... 8)
My girlfriend has a near mustache.  It's quite visible, but it doesn't grow out and the hair is soft.  I love it.   If I were a female body, I'd like to be able to grow a soft mustache.  Maybe a goatee.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Ell on April 04, 2008, 08:38:50 PM
Quote from: Rebis on April 04, 2008, 08:05:05 AM
Quote from: Lutin on April 04, 2008, 04:15:01 AM
If it weren't for my undeniable X-X chromosomes ::), I'd grow a moustache. Maybe not a beard, just 'cause I feel furry enough already (one week after plucking my eyebrows I have a Frida Kahlo monobrow again! It's crazy!), but a moustache would be kinda cool... 8)
My girlfriend has a near mustache.  It's quite visible, but it doesn't grow out and the hair is soft.  I love it.   If I were a female body, I'd like to be able to grow a soft mustache.  Maybe a goatee.

but, if you put a goatee on Bender, he becomes Flexo...
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on April 04, 2008, 08:55:17 PM
Hi Ell,

   You're as beautiful as I thought you would be.    :) 

   I missed the flexo episode.  I'm trying to catch them all, but my partner holds me hostage while she controls the channels. 

  Hmmm, that might explain why she is growing hair on her chin. 
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on April 04, 2008, 09:19:55 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 03, 2008, 07:18:12 PM
But Simone, I'm working on my beard because of you.

I should say not! Hell no. Shave your chin this instant.  :icon_raving:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on April 04, 2008, 09:31:57 PM
Hi Rebis, Yes Ell is a very beautiful lookin lady and to look at her facial expression, she appears to be so benign and blissful. "Hee, hee, hee." Well I ain't no stranger to those types of characteristics either. ;)

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Lutin on April 04, 2008, 09:53:07 PM
It's not really what you could call a moustache, unfortunately, but every few months I have to shave my upper lip 'cause after a while it looks like there's a permanent shadow there. :P

A few years ago I went to a holiday revision thing for French (it was right before our final HSC exams), and there were *four* girls there with definite moustaches. And I mean, *really* obvious, like a few millimetres long (which is longer than most girls have). 

There once was a man named Michael Finnegan,
He grew whiskers on his chin-egan,
The wind came along and blew them in again,
Poor old Michael Finnegan, begin again.




On a completely different note, I love the flowers and fairies, Cindy. :)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on April 05, 2008, 12:07:58 AM
facial hair is scratchy...not good for :-*.  heh.


and as most of my male friends have found out, the mustache by itself is rarely a good idea.  :D  hehe.  it takes a special face to pull off a mustache.

Quote from: Simone Louise on April 03, 2008, 10:51:11 AM
I missed signing my last posting, and I surely don't set fashions and norms here. Z, Rebis, Jaimey, Nero, and Pica Pica are among those I look to as androgyne role models.

:icon_redface:  I feel all warm and fuzzy now...and greatly honored!

Quote from: Rebis on April 03, 2008, 11:41:46 AM
Thank you for the nice words, S, but I'm not sure the others qualify for such praise.   :P

Hey now!  Keep talking like that and you'll get a spanking!  :icon_eyebrow:

...somehow it always comes back to spanking...
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on April 05, 2008, 12:11:09 AM
Thank you Lutin. Yea I'm kind of fond of fairies mermaids Animes angels well a whole lot of stuff of fantasy and mysticism And my goodness fury stuffiest and I love house plants and flowers. I have been saving this kinds of collectibles for a good  many years. See I knew someday I would be a girl and just started collecting all this stuff not to mention women's clothes. I was never frightened of just walking into a store and  do me some shopping in the women's department. "Hee, hee hee."

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi11.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa191%2Fcynthiag932%2FMystreeturchine.png&hash=5b8156a899d3a52be5cea76b80a753accbd6357f)

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Seshatneferw on April 05, 2008, 01:52:17 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 03, 2008, 07:18:12 PM
But Simone, I'm working on my beard because of you.

You were supposed to sacrifice it, you heretic! Beware the wrath of our great god Jaimey, E will punnish you. >:(

  Nfr
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Ell on April 05, 2008, 02:02:21 PM
Quote from: Rebis on April 04, 2008, 08:55:17 PM
Hi Ell,

   You're as beautiful as I thought you would be.    :) 

   I missed the flexo episode.  I'm trying to catch them all, but my partner holds me hostage while she controls the channels. 

  Hmmm, that might explain why she is growing hair on her chin. 

Thank you very much, my dear.

-Ellie


Posted on: April 05, 2008, 01:54:46 PM
Quote from: cindybc on April 04, 2008, 09:31:57 PM
Hi Rebis, Yes Ell is a very beautiful lookin lady and to look at her facial expression, she appears to be so benign and blissful. "Hee, hee, hee." Well I ain't no stranger to those types of characteristics either. ;)

Cindy

Thank you baby Cindy.

ps, i still want your hair.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on April 05, 2008, 06:47:56 PM
Quote from: Seshatneferw on April 05, 2008, 01:52:17 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 03, 2008, 07:18:12 PM
But Simone, I'm working on my beard because of you.

You were supposed to sacrifice it, you heretic! Beware the wrath of our great god Jaimey, E will punnish you. >:(

  Nfr


Damn skippy!  Let the smiting begin!  :icon_burn:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on April 05, 2008, 07:34:57 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on April 05, 2008, 06:47:56 PM
Quote from: Seshatneferw on April 05, 2008, 01:52:17 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 03, 2008, 07:18:12 PM
But Simone, I'm working on my beard because of you.

You were supposed to sacrifice it, you heretic! Beware the wrath of our great god Jaimey, E will punnish you. >:(

  Nfr


Damn skippy!  Let the smiting begin!  :icon_burn:

Smiting? I want some real punishment. What do I gotta do to get some real punishment from Jaimey?  :icon_eyebrow:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on April 05, 2008, 08:06:01 PM
You have to kiss me.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on April 05, 2008, 08:29:13 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on April 05, 2008, 06:47:56 PM
Damn skippy!  Let the smiting begin!  :icon_burn:

What ever happened to shunning... :eusa_snooty:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie j on April 05, 2008, 08:34:18 PM
Quote from: Rebis on April 05, 2008, 08:06:01 PM
You have to kiss me.

well if you say so  grabs rebis and gives  rebis a nice big old tounge in the mouth lip lock kiss. untill he is on

the floor again  :icon_evil_laugh: :icon_evil_laugh: :icon_evil_laugh:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on April 05, 2008, 08:39:18 PM
25 pages into this thread and we have various p@@ps being punished by whipping and/or kissing... things are starting to get interesting  >:D

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on April 05, 2008, 08:49:23 PM
Quote from: Rebis on April 05, 2008, 08:06:01 PM
You have to kiss me.

not altogether sure that would be a punishment.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie j on April 05, 2008, 09:14:53 PM
Quote from: Zythyra on April 05, 2008, 08:39:18 PM
25 pages into this thread and we have various p@@ps being punished by whipping and/or kissing... things are starting to get interesting  >:D

Z

indeed z indeed ;) but the question is z do you dare to guess what might happen next tho  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on April 05, 2008, 10:04:38 PM
what i am most fearful of is jamie paying off all my debts - please don't do that jamie, please.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on April 05, 2008, 10:15:43 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 05, 2008, 10:04:38 PM
what i am most fearful of is jamie paying off all my debts - please don't do that jamie, please.

Must be one of those "this is going to hurt me more than you" type of punishments.  ::)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on April 05, 2008, 10:30:40 PM
Quote from: debbie j on April 05, 2008, 08:34:18 PM
Quote from: Rebis on April 05, 2008, 08:06:01 PM
You have to kiss me.

well if you say so  grabs rebis and gives  rebis a nice big old tounge in the mouth lip lock kiss. untill he is on

the floor again  :icon_evil_laugh: :icon_evil_laugh: :icon_evil_laugh:
Thanks.

I needed that.   :)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie j on April 06, 2008, 08:22:09 PM
Quote from: Rebis on April 05, 2008, 10:30:40 PM
Quote from: debbie j on April 05, 2008, 08:34:18 PM
Quote from: Rebis on April 05, 2008, 08:06:01 PM
You have to kiss me.

well if you say so  grabs rebis and gives  rebis a nice big old tounge in the mouth lip lock kiss. untill he is on

the floor again  :icon_evil_laugh: :icon_evil_laugh: :icon_evil_laugh:
Thanks.

I needed that.   :)

np at all rebis hun  anytime at all  ;D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on April 06, 2008, 08:34:01 PM
You know, when you combine kissing with punishment, it's not really punishment anymore... :-*
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on April 06, 2008, 08:38:31 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on April 06, 2008, 08:34:01 PM
You know, when you combine kissing with punishment, it's not really punishment anymore... :-*
it is when you're being kissed by your grandmother.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie j on April 06, 2008, 08:45:13 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on April 06, 2008, 08:34:01 PM
You know, when you combine kissing with punishment, it's not really punishment anymore... :-*

maybe maybe not jamiey. as i think it would depend on how you did the kissing. and if you was useing a

rideing crop or a whip or a paddle at the time. now say if you used one of these items while kissing then you

can still say it is punishment in a way  ;) :icon_evil_laugh: :icon_evil_laugh:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on April 06, 2008, 08:49:26 PM

What if you were being whipped by adolph hitler and he kissed you?  There's no way that wouldn't be punishment.

blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I feel like vomiting
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Lutin on April 06, 2008, 09:03:27 PM
Quotemaybe maybe not jamiey. as i think it would depend on how you did the kissing. and if you was useing a rideing crop or a whip or a paddle at the time. now say if you used one of these items while kissing then you can still say it is punishment in a way   

OK, it could just be my sweet-21-and-never-been-kissed-ohhowsad naivety :eusa_boohoo: ;), but I just can't quite figure out the geometry of kissing someone while using a whip... :icon_weirdface:

It could, however, be punishment if you had to kiss a unicorn (unless, of course, you actually wanted the free lobotomy...).



QuoteWhat if you were being whipped by adolph hitler and he kissed you?  There's no way that wouldn't be punishment.

blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I feel like vomiting

Would you like a bucket?

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on April 06, 2008, 09:53:12 PM
Someone looking for a bucket?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi11.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa191%2Fcynthiag932%2FWoodenBucket3DModelZoom.jpg&hash=a379dc53a31c7962dfd24340677129606b928c9a)

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on April 06, 2008, 10:06:31 PM

I am.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on April 06, 2008, 10:53:41 PM
"Hee, hee, hee." What is there worthy of puking for?
Well for me it's been a grand day for spreading love.
May you all have a grand evening.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on April 06, 2008, 11:06:10 PM

I imagined being kissed by Adolph Hitler.


Don't try it or you'll be sick too.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Lutin on April 06, 2008, 11:08:58 PM
Quote"Hee, hee, hee." What is there worthy of puking for?
Well for me it's been a grand day for spreading love.
May you all have a grand evening.

It's still only 1:30pm where I am, so I still have the rest of the day ahead of me. Which is good, 'cause I've been procrastinating all morning ::).

QuoteI imagined being kissed by Adolph Hitler.


Don't try it or you'll be sick too.

I, fortunately, keep getting distracted by the thought of the toothbrush moustache before any more mental damage can be done. :icon_crazy:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on April 06, 2008, 11:34:59 PM


Posted on: April 06, 2008, 11:27:11 PM
Kissing Adolf Hitler, gaaaaaaaaaaaag me with a spoon huh. whats worst would be to kiss Bush, I think I would relocate to Lower Slabovia. Actually, make that Kokomo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjaTL-gD6Mg
Cindy


Posted on: April 06, 2008, 11:29:49 PM
Sorry about the blank space that was above my last post. I was attempting to post a You Tube picture, well the empty space in my above post is what came out as a result.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on April 07, 2008, 07:20:15 AM
Hi Cindy,

   I edited your post and removed the extra YouTube.  When you do a youtube, you only need the part of the URL that comes after the = sign.


  As for bush.   I never think about it, but I imagine his mouth probably would taste like kissing the other end.   :icon_blah:

Now I want to drink a bucket of vomit to make my mouth feel clean.

Why aren't you people stopping me before I write this stuff?   I thought this was a support site.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Lutin on April 07, 2008, 09:45:51 AM
Ladies and jellybeans, poisoned girls, we have a winner! Come on down, Rrrrrrrrrrrrebis!

Congratulations! For single-handedly making me *completely* lose my appetite by talking about drinking a whole bucket of puke, you have won the *unforgettable* choice of kissing either Bush Senior or Bush Junior! (Sorry, choosing "both" gets you a one-way trip to the Candy Mountain Cave).




Thank you so very much. :icon_shakefist: ;)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on April 07, 2008, 09:50:04 AM
Quote from: Rebis on April 07, 2008, 07:20:15 AM
Why aren't you people stopping me before I write this stuff?   I thought this was a support site.

There's nothing we can do to stop you from posting, but we will offer you support for getting over your feelings of remorse  ;)

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on April 07, 2008, 10:38:21 AM
Quote from: Lutin on April 07, 2008, 09:45:51 AM
Ladies and jellybeans, poisoned girls, we have a winner! Come on down, Rrrrrrrrrrrrebis!

Congratulations! For single-handedly making me *completely* lose my appetite by talking about drinking a whole bucket of puke, you have won the *unforgettable* choice of kissing either Bush Senior or Bush Junior! (Sorry, choosing "both" gets you a one-way trip to the Candy Mountain Cave).


Thank you so very much. :icon_shakefist: ;)
I'm sorry.    :'(
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on April 07, 2008, 10:48:57 AM
It is a support group.
For those thoughts, we will gladly hold the horse in place while you string yourself up.
We wouldn't want it to step out from under you before the noose is in place. :laugh:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Lutin on April 07, 2008, 11:04:20 AM
QuoteI'm sorry. :'(
Ah, how could I ever shun a Futurama fan?

I'll forgive you...if there's chocolate in it. ;)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on April 07, 2008, 12:22:19 PM
Quote from: sd on April 07, 2008, 10:48:57 AM
It is a support group.
For those thoughts, we will gladly hold the horse in place while you string yourself up.
We wouldn't want it to step out from under you before the noose is in place. :laugh:
is there an emoticon for being strung up?


There is chocolate in everything and for everybody.   Just bring me the head of Ben Franklin 10,000 times.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on April 08, 2008, 04:06:36 AM
Hi Rebis , thank you much for fixing the You tube. I only tried at least a dozen different ways to post them like that. I guess brunets are not much different then blonds when it comes to computers. Well brunet with copper highlights, I don't know where the copper comes from but I like it.  Well as fore the two Bushes, if we had more of them we would have a forest. Pioneer chainsaw time. Na just kiddin, I couldn't hurt anything, not even trees.

Cindy

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie j on April 08, 2008, 09:21:06 PM
Quote from: Rebis on April 07, 2008, 12:22:19 PM
Quote from: sd on April 07, 2008, 10:48:57 AM
It is a support group.
For those thoughts, we will gladly hold the horse in place while you string yourself up.
We wouldn't want it to step out from under you before the noose is in place. :laugh:
is there an emoticon for being strung up?  ( no sorry to say  ::) ::))


There is chocolate in everything and for everybody.   Just bring me the head of Ben Franklin 10,000 times. ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on April 10, 2008, 07:26:49 PM
Quote from: Rebis on April 07, 2008, 12:22:19 PM
There is chocolate in everything and for everybody.

Is that so?  Careful, Reeb.  If there's chocolate in you, you might get eaten.  :icon_chew:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie j on April 10, 2008, 08:00:36 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on April 10, 2008, 07:26:49 PM
Quote from: Rebis on April 07, 2008, 12:22:19 PM
There is chocolate in everything and for everybody.

Is that so?  Careful, Reeb.  If there's chocolate in you, you might get eaten.  :icon_chew:

to late jaimey ;) grabs rebis again and slaps a big old  lip lock  on the  mouth kiss >:D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Lutin on April 10, 2008, 09:14:11 PM
Mmmmmmm.......chocolatey Rebis..........
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on April 10, 2008, 09:51:47 PM
Mmmmmm, chocolate... chomp, chomp, chew, chew...  ;D

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on April 11, 2008, 07:29:32 AM

Thanks for cannibalizing me everybody.  :)

For some reason, I now want that to be what really happens to me.   

I have milk chocolate bones.
chocolate blood running through chocolate veins
chocolate teeth and dark chocolate brains

come get some!
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on April 11, 2008, 07:41:54 AM
i'm up for a femur
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Lutin on April 11, 2008, 08:01:48 AM
Chocolate blood running through chocolate veins, hm? I could live being a vampire... :-* :icon_eyebrow:

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: lady amarant on April 11, 2008, 08:11:39 AM
sickos!

Dibs on the brains!!!

~Simone.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on April 11, 2008, 03:10:32 PM
Shhhhhhhh, just want to whisper a little screte, Cindy doesn't eat cocolate.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on April 11, 2008, 03:18:41 PM
Quote from: cindybc on April 11, 2008, 03:10:32 PM
Shhhhhhhh, just want to whisper a little screte, Cindy doesn't eat cocolate.

Cindy

Quote from: lady amarant on April 11, 2008, 08:11:39 AM
sickos!

Dibs on the brains!!!

~Simone.

<adjusts glasses, wonders if sie is going blind>

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on April 11, 2008, 03:31:59 PM
"hee, hee, hee." Maybe try eating more chocolate. Maybe get a chocolate hi and the eyesight will improve. I don't eat chocolate because I dont need it, I'm high all the time. Well almost all the time, unless someone pee, pee's in my alphabet soup.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie j on April 11, 2008, 08:19:00 PM
Quote from: Rebis on April 11, 2008, 07:29:32 AM

Thanks for cannibalizing me everybody.  :)

For some reason, I now want that to be what really happens to me.   

I have milk chocolate bones.
chocolate blood running through chocolate veins
chocolate teeth and dark chocolate brains

come get some!

oh really  humm :eusa_think: ok if you say so  :icon_evil_laugh: :icon_kiss: >:D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on April 13, 2008, 08:12:38 PM
It just shows how sweet you are, Reeb!  ;D 
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on April 13, 2008, 08:17:00 PM
too sweet for me. my teeth are too sensitive for chocolate
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on April 13, 2008, 08:18:14 PM

That's not what I heard.


giggety giggety
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on April 13, 2008, 08:44:22 PM
Quote from: Rebis on April 13, 2008, 08:18:14 PM

That's not what I heard.


giggety giggety

And what did you hear?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on April 13, 2008, 08:49:18 PM

You stumped me.   ???  I have no witty response. 


curse you.      :laugh:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on April 13, 2008, 08:52:10 PM
Anyhow, I much prefer something salty. Some sizzling, fatty bacon sounds good about now.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on April 13, 2008, 08:53:28 PM

yuk.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on April 13, 2008, 08:54:26 PM
satisfying.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on April 13, 2008, 08:56:37 PM
I was going to write that everyone should meet at old man Nero's house, but if that's the kind of food you'd serve us, forget it!
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on April 13, 2008, 09:00:05 PM
How about a nice juicy ham?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Ell on April 13, 2008, 09:09:29 PM
Quote from: Nero on April 13, 2008, 08:52:10 PM
Anyhow, I much prefer something salty. Some sizzling, fatty bacon sounds good about now.

i gotta go with Nero on this one, 'Becca.

what kinda person doesn't like bacon?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on April 13, 2008, 10:44:54 PM
Quote from: ell on April 13, 2008, 09:09:29 PM
Quote from: Nero on April 13, 2008, 08:52:10 PM
Anyhow, I much prefer something salty. Some sizzling, fatty bacon sounds good about now.

i gotta go with Nero on this one, 'Becca.

what kinda person doesn't like bacon?

It ain't exactly kosher for some of us  ;)

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Ell on April 13, 2008, 11:20:02 PM
Quote from: Zythyra on April 13, 2008, 10:44:54 PM
Quote from: ell on April 13, 2008, 09:09:29 PM
Quote from: Nero on April 13, 2008, 08:52:10 PM
Anyhow, I much prefer something salty. Some sizzling, fatty bacon sounds good about now.

i gotta go with Nero on this one, 'Becca.

what kinda person doesn't like bacon?

It ain't exactly kosher for some of us  ;)

Z

Hmm. it may not be permitted. but you still might like it...  : )
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: lady amarant on April 14, 2008, 01:25:06 AM
QuoteHmm. it may not be permitted. but you still might like it...  :)

I'm the kinda person that doesn't like bacon!!!

But then I used to, and it's the thought of where it comes from more than the taste that gets me, so I suppose you have a point Ell.

~Simone.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on April 14, 2008, 07:24:43 AM
Quote from: ell on April 13, 2008, 11:20:02 PM
Hmm. it may not be permitted. but you still might like it...  : )

Once upon a time, before becoming vegetarian/eco-kosher, I did indulge. No desire to eat it now though. Poor little piggies  :(

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on April 14, 2008, 07:41:16 AM
Quote from: ell on April 13, 2008, 09:09:29 PM
i gotta go with Nero on this one, 'Becca.

what kinda person doesn't like bacon?
It's too salty and fatty and yucky.

I hate ham too.


Better give up on the meats and stick with serving sweets.  Or veggies dipped in sweets.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on April 14, 2008, 11:25:34 AM
Quote from: Rebis on April 14, 2008, 07:41:16 AM
Quote from: ell on April 13, 2008, 09:09:29 PM
what kinda person doesn't like bacon?
It's too salty and fatty and yucky.

I hate ham too.

I dislike bacon for the same reason. I dislike fatty meat.
Ham is okay, smother it in ketchup.  :P

I eat very little chocolate, it aggravates my asthma and I find it a bit too sweet.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on April 14, 2008, 07:09:07 PM
What???  I had no idea that there were people who didn't like bacon!  Well...except for the obvious...my vegetarian roommate doesn't eat bacon.  It's not just the bacon itself!  What is cornbread without a little bacon grease for flavor!!!  Sacrilege!!!   

Speaking of poor little piggies, my great uncle would get attached to them while he raised them and would cry before he shot them.  :'(  Aw.  Did you know that you have to basically look the little piggy in the eye when you do it?  ...not that I've ever done it, but my family is COUNTRY in many ways...for example, my grandmother used to fix biscuits, sausage, bacon, and eggs every Saturday morning.  Yum!
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Alyssa M. on April 14, 2008, 07:41:24 PM
Quote from: Jules WinnfieldI just don't dig on swine, that's all.

Quote from: Jules WinnfieldI don't eat dog either.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie j on April 14, 2008, 09:16:19 PM
that is it i have had it and i wont take it NO MORE !! iam going to go get me a chef salad with chicken !!!!
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on April 15, 2008, 09:31:30 PM
Chef salad with chicken sounds good...yummy.  It just occurred to me that I sounded like a bacon fiend in my last thread!  :o  I'm not, I swear.  :D 

But I don't feel sorry for the animals...ever since Bambi ran out in front of my car, that bastard's had it coming!  And all his little friends too!

hehehe.  Just kidding...mostly.  :P
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: debbie j on April 15, 2008, 09:41:44 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on April 15, 2008, 09:31:30 PM
Chef salad with chicken sounds good...yummy.  ( indeed it is very yummy )  It just occurred to me that I sounded like a bacon fiend in my last thread!  :o  I'm not, I swear.  :D (na it did not sound like that to me

when i read it)

But I don't feel sorry for the animals...ever since Bambi ran out in front of my car, that bastard's had it coming!  And all his little friends too! (sigh pour bambi :( bambis freinds do that too in my area a lot :(

hehehe.  Just kidding...mostly.  :P
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: NickSister on April 15, 2008, 10:04:24 PM
Quote from: debbie j on April 14, 2008, 09:16:19 PM
that is it i have had it and i wont take it NO MORE !! iam going to go get me a chef salad with chicken !!!!

I had chicken bacon today. It was not bad.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Ell on April 15, 2008, 10:18:43 PM
Quote from: lady amarant on April 14, 2008, 01:25:06 AM
I'm the kinda person that doesn't like bacon!!!

But then I used to, and it's the thought of where it comes from more than the taste that gets me, so I suppose you have a point Ell.

~Simone.

some of the Hispanic people in my neighborhood fry up think chunks of slab bacon and call it chicharron. it smells when it first starts cooking, but when it's done it is so yummy. it's really good served with corn pancakes and coffee. ah!!!!!

-ell
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on April 16, 2008, 07:18:31 AM
Quote from: NickSister on April 15, 2008, 10:04:24 PM
Quote from: debbie j on April 14, 2008, 09:16:19 PM
that is it i have had it and i wont take it NO MORE !! iam going to go get me a chef salad with chicken !!!!

I had chicken bacon today. It was not bad.
Your bacon was chicken?  What was it afraid of?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on April 16, 2008, 07:37:45 AM
me.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on April 16, 2008, 10:34:31 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 16, 2008, 07:37:45 AM
me.

No kidding! I know I am.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on April 16, 2008, 05:23:13 PM
Hi Me.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on April 17, 2008, 07:52:20 PM
Quote from: Rebis on April 16, 2008, 07:18:31 AM
Your bacon was chicken?  What was it afraid of?

OMG.  My computer would have been ruined if I'd had anything in my mouth...

That was beautiful, Reeb.  :-*
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Lokaeign on May 21, 2008, 07:43:50 AM
It was funny to discover this topic, because I'm really not a calm person at all!  I'm noted for being quite angry at times--although it tends to manifest as anger against ideas or political figures, rather than individuals I might actually have a conversation with.  I have rather stormy moods and have to manage my emotions quite carefully.  I'd like to be calm and measured all the time, it's just not something I've ever been able to achieve...
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on May 21, 2008, 11:29:51 AM

I think the idea is that many of us just seem mild or interact with others calmly.

I have serious emotions concerning world events too.  I have to rein them in and try to forget the world exists.

The world doesn't exist
There is no world
The world doesn't exist
There is no world
The world doesn't exist
There is no world
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Ell on May 21, 2008, 01:25:55 PM
Quote from: Lokaeign on May 21, 2008, 07:43:50 AM
It was funny to discover this topic, because I'm really not a calm person at all!  I'm noted for being quite angry at times--although it tends to manifest as anger against ideas or political figures, rather than individuals I might actually have a conversation with.  I have rather stormy moods and have to manage my emotions quite carefully.  I'd like to be calm and measured all the time, it's just not something I've ever been able to achieve...

i have found inner peace and yet, often enough, as you see, i am still a dope.

-Ell
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on May 21, 2008, 03:29:37 PM
Hi Ell hon, I have never found you to be a dope, your a smart girl and you have feelings just like the rest of us. You speak your truth and that is it. Sometimes telling what we believe to be our truth to others will not cotton well with some of the others. We all have a different perspective on things. I'm no saint I do that to now and again, or I just speak to much and give more detail then needed. Sometimes it's like drawing a map where you have to point out to some individuals each place you have to travel through to get to the destination.

Dear Rebis you are so right, sometimes we need to retreat within and sending a prayer to whom is in need is about all we can do.

QuoteI have serious emotions concerning world events too.  I have to rein them in and try to forget the world exists.

Anybody know where Jaimey went to? Haven't seen hir for a while.

Cindy

   
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on May 21, 2008, 07:04:10 PM
I'm here!  :laugh:  I was just tired and didn't get on the computer a lot the last couple of weeks...
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on May 22, 2008, 04:07:57 AM
Hi Jaimey  ;D Nice to see your still around. It makes me sad when someone disappears
I do pray all is well with you now and see you later on the syber waves.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on May 22, 2008, 12:05:37 PM
QuoteWhy Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?

'cause, unlike you, we ain't got tabasco sauce fer blood.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on May 22, 2008, 12:26:56 PM
Hi Jaimey. Glad to hear you are well, The last few days aint been the best for me either although I been keeping up with the board, just not posting as much. I have been having problems with emotions, It was not depression it was emotions I know the difference. I had a difficult time putting in my day working at the woman's shelter yesterday. I do feel somewhat better today, just tired. Ok, see ya in a bit.

Cindy 
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on May 22, 2008, 08:54:58 PM
It was kind of weird for a couple of weeks.  I was just pooped.  ???  I don't think I'm any more rested or anything, I was just exhausted.  I think it's that same mental exhaustion I used to get as a kid during the spring semester.  Fall was always exciting but around March/April you just can't think anymore.  But I'm better now.  Glad to hear you are too!

Quote from: Rebis on May 22, 2008, 12:05:37 PM
QuoteWhy Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?

'cause, unlike you, we ain't got tabasco sauce fer blood.

Speak for yourself!  I'm SPICY!  :icon_eyebrow:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Lutin on May 23, 2008, 01:19:35 AM
Nice to see you're still here Jaimey, I was wondering where you'd gone. :-\ And I know what you mean with the mental exhaustion, it's worse than being just physically buggered.

QuoteWhy Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
If
1) Patience is a virtue
2) A group of unicorns is called 'a blessing'
3) Androgynes are unicorns,

Then I'm sure that somewhere in there androgyne=mild temperament... :eusa_think:

QuoteSpeak for yourself!  I'm SPICY! :icon_eyebrow:

Hot, eh? ;)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Seshatneferw on May 23, 2008, 01:37:42 PM
Quote from: Rebis on May 22, 2008, 12:05:37 PM
'cause, unlike you, we ain't got tabasco sauce fer blood.

Of course not, there's way too much vinegar in that stuff.  :)

  Nfr
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Eva Marie on May 23, 2008, 03:02:33 PM
Quote from: Seshatneferw on May 23, 2008, 01:37:42 PM
Quote from: Rebis on May 22, 2008, 12:05:37 PM
'cause, unlike you, we ain't got tabasco sauce fer blood.

Of course not, there's way too much vinegar in that stuff.  :)

  Nfr


try the chipotle tabasco. Take a flour tortilla and fill it up with slices of fajita chicken, spanish rice, and whatever else you like (refried beans, cheese, etc) and roll it up. Apply the chipotle to the end as you eat it. It is awesome.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Lutin on May 23, 2008, 10:37:49 PM
What if spicy/hot food makes you sick? ???
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on May 23, 2008, 11:17:43 PM
Quote from: Lutin on May 23, 2008, 10:37:49 PM
What if spicy/hot food makes you sick? ???

What if it just makes your eyes water and nose run?  None of those sound particularly appetizing, no matter how delicious it may be...

Was I really missed that much?  :icon_love:  I didn't think I was off here that much...Well, I can see how the days would become long without my glowing :angel: presence...

...is it getting deep in here, or is it just me?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on May 24, 2008, 04:23:45 AM
Hi Jaimey sweets well it's nice to see sunshiny you back again. Me when I feel low I just hide under my rock with my pet critter for a bit then I come out and feel better.  I just decided to can the deep stuff so it aint me. ;D

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on May 24, 2008, 06:45:07 PM
Somebody needs to come visit me this weekend...I'm lonely!  Well, actually, I'm not bad lonely, I just want to hang out.  But one roommate is out of town and I've never actually hung out with the other one just the two of us...it would be weird. 

Somebody come entertain me!!!!!
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Louise on May 30, 2008, 05:24:18 PM
QuoteIf
1) Patience is a virtue
2) A group of unicorns is called 'a blessing'
3) Androgynes are unicorns,



Then a group of androgynes is called 'a mixed blessing'??   :P
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Casey on May 30, 2008, 08:57:39 PM
Quote from: Louise on May 30, 2008, 05:24:18 PM
Then a group of androgynes is called 'a mixed blessing'??   :P

LOL that's a good one. Sometimes it feels like androgynes as a group are a mixed blessing to the Transgender community.

As others have stated, I think my temperament is mild because I can usually see where others are coming from. I don't think that's because I'm an androgyne. I think that's just the way I am.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Elwood on May 30, 2008, 09:41:19 PM
I've observed that guys and girls have a lot of drama. Androgynes seem to use their noodles a lot more. :P

But that's just what I've seen. I won't say that's true or anything, haha. I don't like to target groups like that and say ALL people are a certain way.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on May 30, 2008, 09:48:01 PM
Quote from: Louise on May 30, 2008, 05:24:18 PM
Then a group of androgynes is called 'a mixed blessing'??   :P

Great Louise! :laugh:

Quote from: Elwood on May 30, 2008, 09:41:19 PM
I've observed that guys and girls have a lot of drama. Androgynes seem to use their noodles a lot more. :P

Elwood, if there are noodles, I'll eat them  ;)

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Elwood on May 30, 2008, 09:53:38 PM
Quote from: Zythyra on May 30, 2008, 09:48:01 PM
Quote from: Elwood on May 30, 2008, 09:41:19 PMI've observed that guys and girls have a lot of drama. Androgynes seem to use their noodles a lot more. :P

Elwood, if there are noodles, I'll eat them  ;)

Z
Mmm... me too. I'm hungry.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on June 01, 2008, 03:53:29 PM

Maybe I'll change my name to 'Noodles'. 
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on June 01, 2008, 04:04:15 PM
Quote from: Rebis on June 01, 2008, 03:53:29 PM

Maybe I'll change my name to 'Noodles'. 

I don't think anyone else here has that user name yet  :laugh: If you wanted to keep the same first letter as Rebis, you could be Ramen. No one has used that one either.  ;)

<slurping>  >:D

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on June 01, 2008, 04:41:20 PM
Hi Rebis, you can call me on top of spaghetti. ;D ;D ;D

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on June 01, 2008, 05:23:27 PM
You all are silly...noodles... :icon_rah:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on June 01, 2008, 10:23:32 PM
Speghetoodles and meet-a-balls.

Cindy

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on June 29, 2008, 06:42:56 PM
I think the unicorn forest is in dire need of some light hearted banter... :icon_help:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Laurry on June 30, 2008, 12:51:53 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on June 29, 2008, 06:42:56 PM
I think the unicorn forest is in dire need of some light hearted banter... :icon_help:

Sorry, dear, we are all out of light hearted banter.  We have some heavy-handed discussions left in the supply bin, and some light hearted comments (a.k.a. smart-aleck remarks) left over from last time, but that's about it.




Hey, lookee here...I traded some serious discussion with the Fashion folks for some banter, so now we can continue with any type of discussion you care.  *Smile* God, I love shopping!

......L

P.S.  Did have a question, tho.  If Androgynes have such a mild temperament, why did we have to LOCK the thread about respecting other people's opinions?  Maybe we ain't so mild after all????

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on June 30, 2008, 01:05:14 PM
Hi Jaimey and Laurry
I love this thread because of the humor. Heck people on the other threads don't seem to understand my jokes, you see, the ones I tell are home spun, from the cuff. Oh heck I don't have any sleeves let alone cuffs on this dress. Lovely hot weather and I am enjoying it. But then I might be off topic is several times in one post. Well the Androgynes folks are ripe nice people anyway.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Laurry on June 30, 2008, 01:13:55 PM
OK Cindy, put it down and step away from the pipe.

Oh no, I guess I just picked it up because I had this horrible thought just pop in my head...If you are discussing Cuffs (on or off your dress) and you wish to point others to websites that discuss them, would those be cuff links?

<psssssssssssst, takes another hit>

Quote from: cindybc on June 30, 2008, 01:05:14 PM
Well the Androgynes folks are ripe nice people anyway.

Ripe nice?  Does that mean we smell bad in a pleasant way?  Or maybe that we are nice people in spite of that "ripe" smell?  I mean, honestly, I'm on vacation...I was planning on taking a shower before I go out..realy I was
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on June 30, 2008, 01:46:43 PM
Quote from: Laurry on June 30, 2008, 12:51:53 PM
P.S.  Did have a question, tho.  If Androgynes have such a mild temperament, why did we have to LOCK the thread about respecting other people's opinions?  Maybe we ain't so mild after all????

LOL  :laugh:

Laurry, thanks for saying that sister!

hugs

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on June 30, 2008, 02:11:59 PM
Hi "the gas pipe?  Na, now getting abducted by aliens and living forever sounds much preferable then croaking. Cuff links, I like that.  Ripe? nah just some of. Na, not that kind of ripe. As fare as I know it means the same as great. It's an old axiom not sure where it originated from. 

Cindy


Posted on: June 30, 2008, 02:08:04 PM
Don't know what's up with my computer, it's as slow as a herd of turtles crossing a river in January.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on June 30, 2008, 07:03:04 PM
Quote from: Laurry on June 30, 2008, 12:51:53 PM
P.S.  Did have a question, tho.  If Androgynes have such a mild temperament, why did we have to LOCK the thread about respecting other people's opinions?  Maybe we ain't so mild after all????

Right?  heh.  It's a little sad, really...

Quote from: Laurry on June 30, 2008, 01:13:55 PM
Oh no, I guess I just picked it up because I had this horrible thought just pop in my head...If you are discussing Cuffs (on or off your dress) and you wish to point others to websites that discuss them, would those be cuff links?

Nice.  I love me some pun!!  :icon_eyebrow:

Quote from: cindybc on June 30, 2008, 02:11:59 PM
Don't know what's up with my computer, it's as slow as a herd of turtles crossing a river in January.

Cindy

Hilarious!!!!  So glad I wasn't taking a drink...
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: tekla on June 30, 2008, 07:12:39 PM
the gas pipe?  Na, now getting abducted by aliens

Umm, that's the crack pipe, not the gas pipe talking there.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Laurry on June 30, 2008, 09:15:01 PM
Quote from: cindybc on June 30, 2008, 02:11:59 PM
Na, not that kind of ripe. As fare as I know it means the same as great. It's an old axiom not sure where it originated from. 

I just took it to mean "right nice"...a fine southern saying we have here in Texas, as in "That's right nice of ya, buddy".  Another example from that famous comedy troupe, Firesign Theatre...

"Near the eye of the Holy Serpent Mound"
"That's a beaut"
"No, it's a mound"
"And right pretty too"

OK...I admit I inhaled in college...what can I say?  It was the 70's...

With all the anime talk that goes on here (and I'm not complaining) I thought dope humor of the 70s might also be appreciated.  Anyone ever heard of Firesign Theatre???

...Laurry


Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on July 01, 2008, 02:08:20 AM
Ooops I guess I goofed on the ripe thing it's right nice. I only been in Texas once back in the 80's but I only just drove through it. But I lived in Morristown Tennessee for a time. I remember some of the southern drawl there and in Asheville NC. Mississippi, Georgia, and Florida. Well I got around a lot during those ten years on the road on the East coast of both Canada and US.  ;D

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sd on July 01, 2008, 02:13:59 AM
Quote from: Laurry on June 30, 2008, 09:15:01 PM
Anyone ever heard of Firesign Theatre???

...Laurry
A buddy introduced me to it. I keep meaning to look into it more.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on July 01, 2008, 02:22:23 AM
My soul mate has heard of the Firesign Theatre. Anyway she can better tell about it herself.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Wing Walker on July 01, 2008, 02:29:45 AM
Quote from: Laurry on June 30, 2008, 09:15:01 PM
Quote from: cindybc on June 30, 2008, 02:11:59 PM
Na, not that kind of ripe. As fare as I know it means the same as great. It's an old axiom not sure where it originated from. 

I just took it to mean "right nice"...a fine southern saying we have here in Texas, as in "That's right nice of ya, buddy".  Another example from that famous comedy troupe, Firesign Theatre...

"Near the eye of the Holy Serpent Mound"
"That's a beaut"
"No, it's a mound"
"And right pretty too"

OK...I admit I inhaled in college...what can I say?  It was the 70's...

With all the anime talk that goes on here (and I'm not complaining) I thought dope humor of the 70s might also be appreciated.  Anyone ever heard of Firesign Theatre???

...Laurry


I Think We're All Bozos on This Bus but we have a problem:  How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Really Nowhere at All?  Call Nick Danger, Third Eye before you get on the Antelope Freeway as you drive to Ralph Spoilsport Motors.

Did we pass a gas station?  No, but the fox did.  Squeeze him right around here and maybe he'll pass another.

Yup, I love the Firesign Theater.  Having said that I believe that it's time for a big bowl of Loosner's Castor Oil Flakes.

Wing Walker
Flying With A Smile
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on July 01, 2008, 03:12:40 AM
French fries fried in 10W30 motor oil and crab soup and brush your teeth with a wood rasp.

Cindy
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: tekla on July 01, 2008, 03:16:01 AM
I would worship at the Firesign Theater if I worshiped. 









Ya don't have any hot buttered groat clusters do ya?

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: cindybc on July 01, 2008, 04:27:05 AM
Beatleguisian ankle humpers. Who is importing those things anyway?

Cindy  ;D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on July 01, 2008, 05:54:55 PM
All that must have been before my time... :P 

>:D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on July 02, 2008, 07:10:25 PM

How now Brown Governor?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Eva Marie on July 04, 2008, 10:49:57 PM
Quote from: Laurry on June 30, 2008, 09:15:01 PM
I thought dope humor of the 70s might also be appreciated.  Anyone ever heard of Firesign Theatre???

Can't say that I have heard of them, but I did have a cheech and chong 8 track back in the day  :laugh:

Dave? Dave's not here......
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on January 13, 2009, 07:05:25 PM
If any thread deserves bumping, this one does....

Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on January 13, 2009, 07:09:31 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on January 13, 2009, 07:05:25 PM
If any thread deserves bumping, this one does....

Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?

They're not really. I've learned a lot since posting this. Sometimes they're far less mild than they let on. And they tend feel strongly about the strangest things and seemingly out of nowhere.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nicky on January 13, 2009, 07:21:15 PM
I think so too.
That is a bloody good observation Nero.  :-*
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on January 13, 2009, 07:23:51 PM
but it takes a while to find that out.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on January 13, 2009, 07:28:41 PM
sure did. also learned that the most seemingly mild ones hide fierce passions.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on January 13, 2009, 08:03:57 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on January 13, 2009, 07:05:25 PM
If any thread deserves bumping, this one does....

Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?

On account it's always about 70 degrees inside them?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on January 13, 2009, 08:05:37 PM
are you mild tempered Reeb?

I am renowned for my mild temper.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on January 13, 2009, 08:09:37 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on January 13, 2009, 08:05:37 PM
are you mild tempered Reeb?

I am renowned for my mild temper.

I wouldn't call it mild, I'd call it slow.  ;)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on January 13, 2009, 08:10:48 PM
yeah, sounds more accurate.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on January 13, 2009, 08:19:52 PM

Yep. I'm mild mannered.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on January 13, 2009, 08:31:49 PM
even if poked with a point-ed stick?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nicky on January 13, 2009, 09:12:35 PM
I get real grumpy. But I thnk I show less than what I actually feel inside. Can't let the violence out, that would be bad  :(
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on January 13, 2009, 09:20:57 PM
Quote from: Nicky on January 13, 2009, 09:12:35 PM
I get real grumpy. But I thnk I show less than what I actually feel inside. Can't let the violence out, that would be bad  :(

That's me too.  I get more annoyed and frustrated than angry, but when I do, I get a little snappy...or maybe just short.  I put myself in time out when that happens (okay, so I just go in my room so people won't bother me, but anyway...)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on January 13, 2009, 10:04:00 PM
Quote from: Nero on January 13, 2009, 07:28:41 PM
sure did. also learned that the most seemingly mild ones hide fierce passions.

LOL! I think we all have many sides to our personalities, seen and unseen.

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on January 14, 2009, 07:58:49 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on January 13, 2009, 08:31:49 PM
even if poked with a point-ed stick?

Yep.  If it bothered me, I would just wander away.  Though I might call you a name but it wouldn't appear as if I were being angry or anything.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on January 15, 2009, 09:17:33 PM
Quote from: Rebis on January 14, 2009, 07:58:49 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on January 13, 2009, 08:31:49 PM
even if poked with a point-ed stick?

Yep.  If it bothered me, I would just wander away.  Though I might call you a name but it wouldn't appear as if I were being angry or anything.

:icon_poke:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on January 15, 2009, 09:56:51 PM

Cut it out!  I'm telling!
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on January 17, 2009, 12:18:14 AM
Quote from: Rebis on January 15, 2009, 09:56:51 PM

Cut it out!  I'm telling!

:icon_silenced:

Tell now, oh poked one!
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Sheeba on January 20, 2009, 05:32:18 PM
I have a theory that people who are very Androgenous are also highly evolved, spiritually and physically as well.  Not in a religeous way but if you go by Native American spirituality the great spirit, universe, animating life force is either both male and female, or neither male nor female. So I'm thinking androynes are closer to that spiritual model.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Ell on January 20, 2009, 07:44:20 PM
Quote from: Nero on January 23, 2008, 07:17:19 PM
Really?
Why so calm, cool and collected?
Now I love ya'll (specially my Reebs) and I'm not making fun, but...
It's almost... unearthly.

ehm, i presume you're only talking about those androgynes who aren't veterans of the Androgyne Wars...?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nicky on January 20, 2009, 07:55:23 PM
Quote from: Sheeba on January 20, 2009, 05:32:18 PM
I have a theory that people who are very Androgenous are also highly evolved, spiritually and physically as well.  Not in a religeous way but if you go by Native American spirituality the great spirit, universe, animating life force is either both male and female, or neither male nor female. So I'm thinking androynes are closer to that spiritual model.

You could flip that about and say we are highly primordial in lacking a more refined and specialised spiritual self, a missing spiritual link. That makes as much logical sense to me.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Sheeba on January 20, 2009, 08:10:41 PM

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You could flip that about and say we are highly primordial in lacking a more refined and specialised spiritual self, a missing spiritual link. That makes as much logical sense to me.
[/quote]

Yeah you certainly could :-)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nicky on January 24, 2009, 03:12:20 AM
Quote from: Virginia WoolfA great mind is androgynous. It is when this fusion takes place that the mind is fully fertilized and uses all of its facilities. The androgynous mind is resonant and porous; it transmits emotion without impediment.

l'll translate Virginias words:

"It is when this car crash takes place that mind is full of ->-bleeped-<- and likes to play with itself. The androgynous mind is a bit shakey and full of holes; it leaks things as there are no walls."  ;)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on January 24, 2009, 01:30:22 PM

I agree with the Virgin Marie          ;D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Ell on January 24, 2009, 05:27:58 PM
Quote from: Virginia Marie on January 24, 2009, 04:15:40 AM
Calm, Collective.

i also am part of the Collective. Resistance is futile.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on January 24, 2009, 05:35:22 PM
Quote from: Nicky on January 24, 2009, 03:12:20 AM
Quote from: Virginia WoolfA great mind is androgynous. It is when this fusion takes place that the mind is fully fertilized and uses all of its facilities. The androgynous mind is resonant and porous; it transmits emotion without impediment.

l'll translate Virginias words:

"It is when this car crash takes place that mind is full of ->-bleeped-<- and likes to play with itself. The androgynous mind is a bit shakey and full of holes; it leaks things as there are no walls."  ;)

LOL, I like your translation Nicky!  :laugh:

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Eva Marie on January 24, 2009, 06:58:23 PM
Quote from: Kiera on January 23, 2009, 05:07:25 PM
Quote from: Sheeba on January 20, 2009, 05:32:18 PM
I have a theory . . .
Apparently others agree with you too ;)

Quote from: Virginia WoolfA great mind is androgynous. It is when this fusion takes place that the mind is fully fertilized and uses all of its facilities. The androgynous mind is resonant and porous; it transmits emotion without impediment.

I wonder what kind of fertilizer was used?  :D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Shana A on January 24, 2009, 07:03:03 PM
Quote from: riven_one on January 24, 2009, 06:58:23 PM
I wonder what kind of fertilizer was used?  :D

From the guard sheep  :laugh:

Z
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Eva Marie on January 24, 2009, 10:05:47 PM
Quote from: Zythyra on January 24, 2009, 07:03:03 PM
Quote from: riven_one on January 24, 2009, 06:58:23 PM
I wonder what kind of fertilizer was used?  :D

From the guard sheep  :laugh:

Z

Well, they certainly have plenty of it  :D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: noeleena on January 24, 2009, 10:53:09 PM
hi... mild .... not a fighter .not  angry . do get frustrated . even when provoked . . yet some times been worked up .  i think as you get older you see theres no point  to that . you just do your sellf harm ...so ill walk away . even when bullied at school . yet i was strong enough to hit.   once to get respect . i only ever did that once at school . he never tryed it again . so is it a part of us as people or do we have that part of us that makes us different as andro . i know being this way we see things from both sides . & have a understanding that most people dont on an other forum i tryed to explane to them i think both as male & female . i have not meet any others like my self . so can you tell me how i explane this part of us how we see our selfs how we think & may be do things i dont allways get the words right so thats part of my problem plus dyslicsa i know how i am wired just getting the right words to explane whats in side . thats frustrating for me .
     ...noeleena...
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on January 24, 2009, 11:46:14 PM
Hi Noeleena,

   One argument you might make is that every mind contains masculine and feminine traits.  For most people, one trait is much greater than the other.  For us, there is more of an equality in these traits.  At times, one trait overwhelms the other and, at other times, both traits are equal, and there are times when each trait cancels each other out.
   It is different per individual.  For each person, it is different at different times.

   Tell them you are gifted.

   I know I didn't account for every circumstance and I am not speaking for everyone.  This is my own thought at this time. We are each an individual and so you will need to apply your own perspective to your explanation.

Just a thought.  Someone else may have a better way of saying it.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: noeleena on January 25, 2009, 03:01:33 AM
hi.. thank you Rebis .     some interesting points i dont think they like the idear of having that male & female triats let alone any thing female or are some hidding as we know behind their mums skirts .    he he i have had that one .  or some of my other friends no understanding at all
   gifted yes . oh dear at 14  or so yea that would work at 61 . oh heck .
    you know what our grand kid would  know & does know more about me at 6 than many people what its like for me being both . too close to the detail going on or would that be just accepts me yea ... . thanks
   ...noeleena...
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on January 25, 2009, 11:04:18 AM

Well, Pica has a theory that our gender growth kind of stops early in life.  Sometimes we use the word 'pregendered'.  I believe the idea is that we are sort of stuck at about the age of your grandchild, more or less.  Maybe that would work as an explanation. 

You can say that the part of your mind that handles gender is stuck at the level of a young child.

That's what I've been saying. In fact, I don't know why I didn't write this earlier.

I probably didn't say it too well, either.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: noeleena on January 25, 2009, 11:05:30 PM
hi...Rebis well thats right on .  never thought of that . yet thats so right stuck in my tracks not going any where  . for me it would have been age 10 . i knew yet that door was locked . i  know this has been the case in my life for 40 years ..many doors have beeb shut . 11 years ago that all changed for me . just so much has been changed . it certainlly has made a big difference to how i do things & see things .
    thats not to say every thing in my life has been a total loss  there are many nice things . still thats life ...
     I have strggeled in many ways .  ill say it this  way i would not wont to go back to most of that part of me as a male , the female . or women side of me is so much better . yet i still retain the male ness . well some of it .
     how do you find it trying to balance it knowing you can not run from this part of your life yet allowing the women or female to  come to the front . not so much with other people just with in your self . i dont get this from the other trans . they just wont to be females yet a lot are just so male .
    i find it hard going back in to the male world if you like . having hated most of it . funny as it is i am getting better at acceopting ((( males )))
     well you know the ones i mean t v c d t s . i am not saying any thing aganst them i really do get on well with them . it was just me . hated being around males . full stop ...  just 40 years of trying . knowing it was not working .
      as i am going through this i am thinking . hey . this sounds like a t s ...... i am not i never was or will be .. heck ......    i have thought about this 3 rd gender side of it how do think on that . i have thought about it just not sure   yet ... oh well time to stop . ill catch ya
     ...noeleena...
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on January 26, 2009, 03:03:56 AM
Quote from: Rebis on January 25, 2009, 11:04:18 AM
That's what I've been saying. In fact, I don't know why I didn't write this earlier.

I probably didn't say it too well, either.

Or are the unicorns just not listening well?  Most of us do live in lala-land, after all.  ;D

I've totally heard you say that before.  In fact, I think we've had discussions about it. :laugh:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on January 26, 2009, 08:06:29 AM

I've been writing when I'm tired and unfocused. Plus, I've been trying to be serious but it's bringing me down.

Quote from: noeleena on January 25, 2009, 11:05:30 PM
     how do you find it trying to balance it knowing you can not run from this part of your life yet allowing the women or female to  come to the front . not so much with other people just with in your self ....

[comment was edited for specificity in my replay - rebis]
 
    i find it hard going back in to the male world if you like . having hated most of it . funny as it is i am getting better at acceopting ((( males )))

     ...noeleena...

   Everybody probably finds their balance in different ways.  In my case, I've done it within my mind and my soul.  You can't tell from looking at me.

   I hated being around men for a long time, but I'm okay with that now that I know who i am better than I did before.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on January 26, 2009, 08:10:16 AM
Quote from: Rebis on January 26, 2009, 08:06:29 AM

.  In my case, I've done it within my mind and my soul. 

and what is more important than that?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on January 26, 2009, 08:13:43 AM

Nothing.  It works fab for me.

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: noeleena on January 26, 2009, 03:55:26 PM
hi... hey. self acceptance first . then what knowing who you are . not the knowing what you are . one part is or was being a loner no socail skills, how to interact with people . not a hope & never being shown my lose when young .that took me a long time to even know what that was about let alone learn a lot of things you dont know.  about school yea right . i was a dead loss till the last 2 years then was 2 nd to top . things i could do to compensate for  my loss . so its not easy being young . then on top of that being the way we are .
   how long did it take you Pica . what trggered it for . you what about your mum & dad school you know just life i spos . not so easy or just plane hard work ... or not knowing . yet knowing something . or..  he he..  hey some one comes up to you & tells you.   you are this .... yea right .. not likely ... yet i have had two people who knew i was different & i knew one women from the 60.s she knew . oh heck she told me last year . when i came out on t v in new zealand . so yea we get there just so hard in the mean time .
..... see ya
.....noeleena...
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on January 26, 2009, 06:32:09 PM

Is New Zealand as beautiful as all the pictures?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nicky on January 26, 2009, 07:00:59 PM
Even better.

You came out on TV Noeleena?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Kinkly on January 26, 2009, 08:34:44 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on January 26, 2009, 03:03:56 AM
Or are the unicorns just not listening well?  Most of us do live in lala-land, after all.  ;D

I wish I lived in the enchated forest of La La Land with others like me.
but (sing to the tune of materal girl - madona)
I am living in a binary World,
and I am an analog gurl
if it is possible to transport me to la la land please do I'll see you @ candy mountian ;D :D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: noeleena on January 27, 2009, 12:05:06 AM
    hi... Rebis .  oh yes it is . we are not a big county yet we have all we need . we live in waimate the south isl . we are 2 1 / 2 hours drive south of ch ch ..   christchurch . i was born in invercargill at the bottom of the south isl    its about 215 miles south of us . blenheim is in the north is about 320 miles from us over all its about 500 miles  long . all of n z is about 1200 miles long & about  100 to 156  miles wide . we have a very changeable weather patterns in the main its nice the west coast its warmer .. ,
   now Jos & i with our kids have lived & worked over most of the south isl so we know it quite well . its a good place to bring kids up & live . & yes we are not imune to things happening much like any where . theres plenty to do like sports fishing shooting & the like , people in the main are very accepting so its good from that point of veiw our costs are not unberable yet could be a bit lower.  over all its good .
   we have some neat scenery. i like doing camara work like land scapes. so theres plenty to do we have under 3500 people were we live we have lived in & arouind here ove 16 years now so looks like we may  stay our nearst towns are timaru & oamaru 38.000  & about 15.000 people in those towns . any way just a idear of where we are . 
       oh yea just 1800 miles from oz.e yes i have been over & met up with a lot of trans girls so that was neat some i talk to on our forums ,
      ...noeleena...

Post Merge: January 27, 2009, 12:29:27 AM

hi ...Nicky.. yes i did on our two n z channels cambell live & close up . in june 07 after i came back from phuket . yea it was good even our son was interviewed . i had two for that showing the two papers as well plus the net . the last one i did was for the timaru herald  one of our papers look it up you may find it other wise use my name on google .
     yes i was asked if i would do this . it was done in a nice way so i could tell & let people know i was a transfemale  . & living as a women so yes my stoy has been told arouind the world . before 11 years ago i would have run as far away as i could if i had been asked to do some thing like this it would have been .   no way...
     yet i knew i was going to go on air & do the interviews . well it opened doors for me.  tell & stand in front of 100.s of people . so yes i went with it . try being in front of over 3 million people   he he ....yea . so i can now stand in front of people & talk . so yea its all been good...the male side of me . it would not have happened .. so the change for & in me as a women . oh dear just so much different . . i dont expect others to do or come with me . this was some thing i could do . any way thank you for asking that was nice of you .
     ...noeleena....
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on January 27, 2009, 12:12:58 PM
I totally had something to add to the theory, but I still can't remember it.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on August 24, 2009, 01:05:00 PM
This thread is not long enough. It is required to be longer.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on August 24, 2009, 09:58:40 PM
Are you a thread necromancer, Pica?  :o

hehe...so how should we make it longer? 
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: V M on August 24, 2009, 10:26:55 PM
We could talk about the controversial breast feeding baby doll  :laugh:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on August 24, 2009, 10:50:16 PM

I keep offering my breasts for people to suckle upon, but all they do is hand back a razor to me.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on August 25, 2009, 05:50:29 AM
breast feeding baby doll?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: V M on August 25, 2009, 05:53:25 AM
The look in your eyes says you need one  :laugh: >:-) :laugh:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: KYLYKaHYT on August 25, 2009, 06:12:52 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on August 25, 2009, 05:50:29 AM
breast feeding baby doll?
This:
Demostración Bebé Glotón (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqYoZVroBZs#normal)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Kinkly on August 25, 2009, 12:41:06 PM
That doll is just wrong  :o ::) ???
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: darkenedcorridor on August 25, 2009, 02:10:40 PM
ok so I realize that dolls are suppose to teach little kids how to nurture, but this seems to be a bit much...or maybe that's just the remnants of the ingrained puritanical ethics talking....
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: KYLYKaHYT on August 25, 2009, 03:12:53 PM
Quote from: Kinkly on August 25, 2009, 12:41:06 PM
That doll is just wrong  :o ::) ???

Yeah, I hear they have a version for big girls too. It weighs 265 lbs. and comes complete with three days stubble, whiskey breath and a plaid leisure suit. :icon_hahano:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on August 25, 2009, 03:15:34 PM
Sadly, this post addresses the topic of the thread.

I'm generally mild, but when I saw 'District 9', I came out angry and wanting to wreak destruction upon the puny humans.

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Constance on August 25, 2009, 03:23:56 PM
Quote from: KYLYKaHYT on August 25, 2009, 03:12:53 PM
Yeah, I hear they have a version for big girls too. It weighs 265 lbs. and comes complete with three days stubble, whiskey breath and a plaid leisure suit. :icon_hahano:
Yuck. Thanks. And I thought I already had trouble sleeping at night...
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nicky on August 25, 2009, 03:45:20 PM
I've changed my mind. I don't think I have a mild temperament. Sure, I can be nice, I can be 'path of least resistance', I'm pretty tolerant and patient. But I am also a stubborn grumpy bastard. I might be long tempered, but I have plenty of rage potential.

It's just easier to be evil when you are clear headed.

Being out of place tends to knock your confidence, makes you quiet and prone to observation rather than participation. Maybe this is the root of the mild temperament stuff. It is a result of lack of place rather than actual personality?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Constance on August 25, 2009, 04:29:27 PM
Quote from: Nicky on August 25, 2009, 03:45:20 PM
Being out of place tends to knock your confidence, makes you quiet and prone to observation rather than participation. Maybe this is the root of the mild temperament stuff. It is a result of lack of place rather than actual personality?
Now that is an interesting idea.  :eusa_think:
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nicky on August 25, 2009, 04:33:56 PM
Gender socialisation might have a part to play too. Anyone that crosses gender boundaries tends to be knocked inline. To avoid this maybe it is easier to not make waves, not cause a fuss, avoid attracting too much attention, live under the radar... :eusa_shhh:

Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Constance on August 25, 2009, 04:43:28 PM
Quote from: Nicky on August 25, 2009, 04:33:56 PM
Gender socialisation might have a part to play too. Anyone that crosses gender boundaries tends to be knocked inline. To avoid this maybe it is easier to not make waves, not cause a fuss, avoid attracting too much attention, live under the radar... :eusa_shhh:
Ha! Living under the radar is what I strive for. I prefer to be invisible. Maybe this is why.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nicky on August 25, 2009, 04:53:14 PM
I'm on a roll now... perhaps a lot of human conflict stems from gender politics - cat-fights, male dominance, social gender rights etc... When you don't buy into that you can see that almost immediately there is much less to get into conflict about - hence the appearance of being mild.

Personally I tend not to want to have conflict as a result of growing up with a manic depressive father who could snap at any instant and become violent without any apparant cause. My older brother is a great negotiator and peace maker, probably as a result of our upbringing too. As a childhood abuse survivor I think I carry scars, the desire to avoid conflict, to take a passive approach. But as I have grown more confident in myself I have overcome some of this. Resolving much of my gender stuff has changed me for the better I think.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Constance on August 25, 2009, 05:39:16 PM
I tended to avoid conflicts when I was younger. I wasn't strong or fast enough. As I got older, it seemed to me that I rarely was served well by being confrontational. Maybe it's due to my history of avoiding conflict, and so I'm lousy at it now?

Furthermore, persons who are confrontational rarely win me over to their way of thinking, even when their logic is good. If I end up siding with their cause, it's because someone else was able to plead the case in a more mature and professional manner to me. Brow-beating just doesn't do it for me.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: bigrift on August 25, 2009, 05:50:09 PM
I noticed this too...I'm incredibly calm, and not at all judgmental, and am very able to dissociate from my own reality and accept others. Especially recently. Even if I am deeply offended by someones viewpoint or actions, I can still remain very civil with them. Some of my best friends are very, very "different" from me, and I can still be around them and be okay. What I mean by this is a lot of my friends are not very accepting of those who don't fit the typical gender/sexuality scheme and they voice this, but I don't take it personally. As long as they aren't over the top, I can deal with them. I've noticed that many LGBT can't be friends with someone that doesn't accept them fully, but this was never the case with me. I've been friends with people that doesn't really make "sense" (neo-nazis, gay bashing red necks, gang members), because I realize that they are not the label. I really am incapable of hating people, no matter what. It's always been a gift of my to see past the bullsh*t of people and get to know the real person. I was in a Juvenille lockup facility with a kid named Diego, who killed two people in a botched robbery. No one would have anything to do with him (except his fellow gang members). But once you got past the rough outside, he was the sweetest guy ever. He was very concerned about me it seemed, always asking how I was doing. I'm beginning to think a sense of universal acceptance may be very consistant with being truly (don't get to riled up for me saying I know what a "true" androgyne is...that's just my little perspective. What I mean is more than someone who gender-blends on the outside, more of a "internal" androgyne) androgynous in nature, because most androgynes seem to be this way naturally (even if they are aggressive). But hey, that's just what I see.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nicky on August 25, 2009, 06:00:31 PM
How does one who is so calm and non judgemental and mild get into Juvy?

You are much more forgiving than I am. I would not be friends with someone that killed other people just to get their goods, no matter how sweet they are. The devil is always nice.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: bigrift on August 25, 2009, 07:34:00 PM
One INCREDIBLY big misunderstanding...the things i did that were illegal were not harming in my mind, society just took them that way. And eventually the individuals involved took them that way, but in the moment I didn't perceive what I was doing as harming or exploitative, because I took everyone's feelings into account (at least my perception of those feelings). Had I known the full repercussions (not just for myself, but for all parties involved), I would never of done those things. But the legal system is very rigid, especially when they took what I did in terms of being "male". Hard to believe such a nice guy like me was charged with a 1st degree felony, 5 2nds, 1 Class A Misdemeanor, and 5 Class B's (As an adult I probably would of gotten a at least 50 years, if not a life sentence, possibly with no parole). That is precisely why I don't judge people based off of criminal history, because you never know the whole story.

And just a little side note, Diego never killed anyone to for material gain, at least from what I gathered. It was more of pressures from fellow gang members, drug influences (I think he was on meth), and a huge sense of not having any purpose. He didn't "choose" the gang life. Joined when he was seven, because his brothers and all his "bros" were that way. When he committed the crimes, he was only 14. Hardly able to think in terms of long-term consequences (both for himself, his victims, and the world at large). Of course he knew what he was doing wasn't good, but I don't think he understand the full repercussions of what he did. Should they just let him go free, because he is just a kid? Of course not. But how sad that he ruined not only his life, but the lives of his victims, their families, and his family all to fit in. God this world is just one massive conglomerate of f****d, don't you think?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nicky on August 25, 2009, 08:07:36 PM
What sort of things does someone do to get a 1st degree felony?

I looked online and all I could find was stuff like sexual exploitation of a minor, aggrivated assult, homicide in one case, delivery of a controlled substance. They are all pretty serious things.

Oh, I get it now, 1st degree means you are the person commiting the crime in question.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: tekla on August 25, 2009, 08:17:48 PM
Some of my best friends are very, very "different" from me, and I can still be around them and be okay.

Congradulations, your normal.  That is the way of the world.

And a first degree felony is a big deal, not easy to get.  You ->-bleeped-<-ED UP BIG TIME.  And Diego, who killed other people, fark him too.  Scum is skimmed from the pond, as this should have been.  Let's hope he doesn't breed.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: bigrift on August 25, 2009, 08:34:50 PM
that's you're perspective, and I'm fine with that. My crimes were all caused by physical age differences, and there was no physical harm done. I've learned that a lot of our laws are meant to enforce morals, not law and order. The first degree felony I committed was called "rape", but to me this is a the a word that implies physical violence. The reason it was considered rape and not something else was because of a three year difference, there was no physical domination, not on my part. At the three year difference happened two years later, it would of not been a problem. Was what I did "right"? No, harm was done. But the same harm could of been commited, and possibly greater harm, in a more legal context. And I never tried to commit harm, it just happened. Had the event existed in different circumstances, harm would not have been done. There is an incredibly complex dynamic to these things. Had I been a physical girl, I really doubt any harm would of been done. The greatest harm done in my perspective had to do with my physical gender, not the actual act. I've come to my own understanding of what happened, as have all parties. Everything seemed to work out okay in the end, so I'm not too upset. If I could go back, wouldn't of happened. But I can't, so all I can do is come to terms with it.

Post Merge: August 25, 2009, 08:36:41 PM

Quote from: tekla on August 25, 2009, 08:17:48 PM
Some of my best friends are very, very "different" from me, and I can still be around them and be okay.

Congradulations, your normal.  That is the way of the world.

I don't claim to be superior in anyway, that wasn't the point in saying that. I have noticed that a lot of people can do this somewhat, but I've never met anyone that can do it to the degree I can. Are there people that can? I'm sure.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: V M on August 25, 2009, 08:49:11 PM
Wow  :o Heated Androgyne talk  ??? Can we go back to kidding about with each other?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: bigrift on August 25, 2009, 08:54:26 PM
Lol, I'm not heated. Calm as can be :)

Another things I've notice, changing topics a bit, is when I get angry (unless I am really hurt emotionally, and it has to be really bad), most the time the anger is caused by an attitude that has an effect on the world as a whole, not me on a "personal" (it is personal to me, but not in regards to "myself") level.

Yet another thing, I've learned that getting angry at something doesn't change it. Getting angry that someone killed or raped someone doesn't change that it happened, so why get angry? Get angry never changes someone's viewpoint, so why get angry? Anger ALWAYS makes things worse, never better.

And yet another thing, I've learned people do EVERYTHING for themselves. Hitler killed Jews for himself, Jesus saved humanity for himself (If you buy into the Christian perspective). So who am I to judge that on a universal level? Hitler was very bad in my perspective. But Jesus caused a lot of harm, too, although not directly. Inquisitions, holy wars, etc. And who knows, maybe the holocaust of the Jews (and gypsies, invalids, and homosexuals) stopped a world-wide nuclear holocaust? This isn't too say would should say, "Oh, silly Hitler. Bad, bad Hitler. But it's okay", or not try and prevent such things from happening again. You can never tell the harm done by a single action. Because when you really think about it, that guy 500 years ago who stepped on a pesky spider had a part in the Holocaust, although indirectly. But that's just my perspective. The key to a happy life is just living in the "moment", IMO. Once you become attached to everything outside the moment, you begin to become very unhappy. The Buddha was onto something, I think...
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: V M on August 25, 2009, 09:08:01 PM
I wasn't referring to you

You made a mistake. You paid for it. Lesson learned. Time to move on
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Eva Marie on August 25, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Maybe we androgynes simply realize that most things that get people all stirred up are simply not worth getting excited about. It takes quite a bit to get me stirred up, I prefer to let most things slide off my back.

Funny story - my boss noticed that I wasn't getting all wound up at work when he thought I should be; he equated my level of apparent non-stress with my level of "concern". He later made some comments about my calmness to my coworkers; in his opinion I was too relaxed. And i'm one of the people in charge of making a vary large two year IT project work.

He has no idea that i've dealt with issues and projects far more stressful than this one :D

And in a calm state frankly it's easier to step back when needed and take the long view.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: tekla on August 25, 2009, 10:55:56 PM
Differences are for idiots to find other people like themselves.  In reality I work with people who never graduated HS, and other who have masters of engineering from MIT, its all the same.  They either have your back, or they don't.  And if they don't, it don't matter who they are.  Ditto if they do.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: V M on August 25, 2009, 11:17:25 PM
We all love you dear, and we got your back when necessary

But sometimes the potty mouth personal attacks are a bit much
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on August 27, 2009, 11:09:57 PM

I just think of Tekla as our harsh mistress.

If someone doesn't poke you in the eye now and then, you might forget to be prepared for it.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on August 28, 2009, 11:20:29 PM
Quote from: riven_one on August 25, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Maybe we androgynes simply realize that most things that get people all stirred up are simply not worth getting excited about. It takes quite a bit to get me stirred up, I prefer to let most things slide off my back.

And in a calm state frankly it's easier to step back when needed and take the long view.

Amen. 
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on July 23, 2011, 04:30:13 PM
Quote from: Forum Admin on January 13, 2009, 07:09:31 PM
They're not really. I've learned a lot since posting this. Sometimes they're far less mild than they let on. And they tend feel strongly about the strangest things and seemingly out of nowhere.

What do the new folk think? Are you mild?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: tekla on July 23, 2011, 04:36:08 PM
I'm totally mild today, the hot tub does that to you.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sunny-side on July 23, 2011, 06:11:10 PM
I have to admit that I didn't make it through this thread any further than the fourth page, I think it was, before jumping to the end to see what the new post was.  I'm glad I read as far as I did, though, as it rather sounds like me too.

I'm mild, sure.

Or rather, I'm really detached from my emotions.  A therapist I went to once said that it could be because I was separated from my mother at birth and kept from her for a little while because of health reasons (she had gotten really ill, if I recall correctly) and that that somehow created a detachment from myself.  Which makes sense to me in some ways because that really is how I feel most of the time, not really alive, just kinda there.  I was told that's why I was so attached to stuffed animals as a kid as well because I needed some sort of exterior thing to attach myself to (and I still do sleep with one >>: I luv my giraffe, haha.)  I don't know if that helps anyone else or not, though.

I find it interesting that you guys have been drawing a semi-link between this sort of emotional detachment and androgyny, though.  I wouldn't have ever tried to make that connection.  Aren't we supposed to be playful? XD

But yeah, I stuff down negative emotions, it takes a lot to ruffle my feathers, all of that.  I don't even cry around other people, I stubbornly hide my tears and oftentimes any sort of pain I'm experiencing, until I'm alone and just can let it out.  I don't want to hurt those around me and I always got yelled at whenever I expressed my frustrations when I was younger too, I think I've become quite the people-pleaser because of that until more recently when I've overcome that bit mostly.  Mostly.  I'm mostly a very logical person and have a hard time pinpointing what emotion I'm feeling sometimes, especially if it's negative (happiness is like... the easy one, duh, I'm laughing XD  but I often confuse fear and anger and grief).

I hate it when that time of the month comes along because the surge of estrogen messes this all up for me.  My thoughts spin wildly out of control and I end up yelling at people for the stupidest things.  Well, no, I end up yelling at my boyfriend for the stupidest things.  My stubbornness keeps my insanity from showing around almost everyone else, lol.

But yeah... mellow <3 lol
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: ativan on July 23, 2011, 07:25:38 PM
With an ECT and drugs, I went from a massively drugged out guy who spent more time in restaints than out. After the ECT, they changed my location and started a different drug regime. After 4 months of this I was tenetively released into a half-way sort of place, after another 3 months I was released to the fostercare home where I now have been for two yrs. About 4 months ago I started taking spiro. The effects on my mood started in just a couple days.

So after lots of drugs that numb your thinking, then shooting an abnormal amount of electrons through my brain tissue, and now on a far better med regime, I'm finally declared a non-threat and everything will stay the same as long as I want. I can live a normal life. That's when I started on the spiro.

So it is only recently that you could say I am a Androgyn with a sense of humor, or not. I don't think to many people around here think of me as mild mannered. But every day I have to at least check in here for a dose of attitude, that is more agreeable than anywhere else I have ever been.

Ativan
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on July 24, 2011, 12:09:52 AM
Quote from: sunny-side on July 23, 2011, 06:11:10 PM

I find it interesting that you guys have been drawing a semi-link between this sort of emotional detachment and androgyny, though.  I wouldn't have ever tried to make that connection.  Aren't we supposed to be playful? XD


We don't know what we are.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: tekla on July 24, 2011, 12:11:57 AM
We're emotionally detached players.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: ativan on July 24, 2011, 12:31:30 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on July 24, 2011, 12:09:52 AM
We don't know what we are.
We really don't care what we are?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: ativan on July 24, 2011, 12:32:05 AM
Quote from: tekla on July 24, 2011, 12:11:57 AM
We're emotionally detached players.
indeed
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: sunny-side on July 24, 2011, 02:22:08 AM
Quote from: i on July 23, 2011, 07:25:38 PMSo it is only recently that you could say I am a Androgyn with a sense of humor, or not. I don't think to many people around here think of me as mild mannered. But every day I have to at least check in here for a dose of attitude, that is more agreeable than anywhere else I have ever been.

Ativan
I like your attitude, though, Ativan.  Sometimes it startles me, but that just causes me to think about it more than just passing it over like "oh, that was nice."

Quote from: tekla on July 24, 2011, 12:11:57 AM
We're emotionally detached players.

LOL that works, I guess XD
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: caseyy on July 24, 2011, 07:00:18 AM
I'm mild, I suppose at some point I just decided that I can't win. :P
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: foosnark on July 24, 2011, 08:42:09 AM
When I was a kid, I got upset really easily.  I think I learned through embarrassment and low-grade bullying to hide that.

Through my 20s I'd get angry.  Not violent and nasty usually (though I might have punched a concrete wall once, ouch, and raising my voice wasn't uncommon), but frustration that boiled over.  At which point I'd often be upset for losing control, and switch over to embarrassment and crying.  Turns out that was at least partially a blood sugar issue, because once I started getting treated for diabetes I was a lot better.

I never wanted to hurt people or upset them or cause a disturbance.  That extends to not sharing my opinion in conversations if it disagrees (except in certain situations) or interrupting people or the like.  Sometimes it means I'm standing there listening to people being jerks about something that touches close to home and I just mentally make myself not part of it.

I still get teary-eyed at movies pretty easily.  I don't get ranting mad much though, not compared to my wife.  We can both hold the same opinion about something political and she will grind her teeth and rant about it for two hours.  I'll just think "that guy's an ass, why'd anyone vote for him?" and then think about something else.

If it weren't for anxiety I could claim to really be a calm, laid-back person.  But I'm always worrying about stuff even knowing I shouldn't.  In fact Friday morning I spent the whole drive to work upset because the new kitten was being a jerk, and somehow I translated his trying to play-fight with my toes (with painted nails) as a comment on my gender.  Yeah, the 17-ounce bully. :D  But it was amazingly hard to let go of that ridiculous feeling.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on July 24, 2011, 09:34:21 AM
I actually resurrected this post thinking that I am not all that mild in my temperament, but then I look around and other people in life and realise I probably am.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: ativan on July 24, 2011, 09:59:07 AM
Quote from: sunny-side on July 24, 2011, 02:22:08 AM
I like your attitude, though, Ativan.  Sometimes it startles me, but that just causes me to think about it more than just passing it over like "oh, that was nice."

LOL that works, I guess XD
I'm sorry if I startle you, I can't think of a specific thing that would cause that though. I suppose it could be an overall thing.
But, I do know that little kids just like to be around me. The sillier they get, the funner it is. I miss my girls being toddlers.
Little Lily, their granddaughter is here for the weekend. It just thrills me like nothing else when I can make her laugh and giggle
by doing silliy things like make faces and other dumb grown up things that grownups think little kids would find funny.

Detached is a defense mech. for sure. Instead of physically hurting someone, I now pray that there is a Jesus and he will take care of this awful person for me. Then I give a little thanks that I'm much better with the world than when I thought so much of it needed to be destroyed.
Not that I beleive in Jesus, as much as that moment of passing the buck, so to speak, allows me to feel better about me. And that it's not up to me to decide any longer.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Taka on July 24, 2011, 10:47:45 AM
i'm pretty detached from my own emotions. when i was a kid i cried easily, but then at some point i realized this won't get me anywhere, so i stopped crying. now i can usually only cry over a sad story or other people's tragedy

i find that i'm quite open minded, maybe even too much. i tend to pick up on other people's emotions, and they get to me, so i end up using my natural skills as a mediator whenever there's any sign of conflict. after turning 20 i got ever more cynical about the world, so i don't get shocked no matter what happens

now my family (i.e. parents) are the only ones who can get me riled up. i don't get how my mom can treat her own kids the way she some times does, so i say what i think about it, and because she's my mom i'll also take offense when i think she treats me unfairly. but other than that i couldn't care less, what other people think or say doesn't have anything to do with me, so there's no point getting offended over little details
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nemo on July 24, 2011, 11:18:51 AM
I used to get riled fairly easily, and Mum likes to remind me how stroppy I was as a teenager. Had mood swings, detachment, all sorts.

Then T happened. Mood swings stopped. Felt a lot calmer and happier.

Overall? I've just grown up and realised that getting wound up solves nothing. I still feel passionately about some issues, but in the main I prefer to let the upset slide off my back and deal with it rationally.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Jaimey on July 24, 2011, 11:31:58 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on July 24, 2011, 09:34:21 AM
I actually resurrected this post thinking that I am not all that mild in my temperament, but then I look around and other people in life and realise I probably am.

It was other people that made me either realize I was mild or decide to be more mellow.  It was such a long time ago.  :)  But I watch people get so riled up about stupid things.  It takes a lot of energy to get angry and worked up.  I just figure it's better to save my energy for worthwhile causes.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on July 25, 2011, 01:49:02 PM

I think we are mild because the Penguin sprayed us in the face with his nerve toxins. I'm pretty certain that this did happen to me.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on July 25, 2011, 02:07:00 PM
No, that was one penguin - at the zoo - and he was peeing, they were not nerve toxins.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: ativan on July 25, 2011, 02:14:53 PM
They do group together in cold icey snowey areas in large masses. How would we know if they are not production sites for toxins? The cold would help preserve them better. I have to go closely watch some penguin stuff on animal planet.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: foosnark on July 26, 2011, 08:57:58 AM
Today I am an angry androgyne.

An organization I've been part of for 15 years (and was part of the leadership for a while) is going through what is probably a necessary change... but it's not going smoothly.  I'll spare the details, but essentially, some people who were a bit tangent to the group but had a kind of truce, are now being made to feel unwelcome.  It's probably partially intentional (because everyones' place is being challenged) but I think people are taking it harder than was originally meant.

Along comes this guy, never known for his tact but generally respectful in the past, and compares these people -- furries, otherkin, multiples etc. -- to LGBT folks and laiming that those people are making him feel insecure and marginalized *as a male heterosexual*.

I started to post, deleted it, started again, deleted that, and walked away from the computer.  Woke up this morning and decided I'd be wrong not to say something, came out about being androgyne and gave him both barrels.

And then I got dressed for work.  My pinkest, most oversized, most femme shirt (which is theoretically a mens' shirt, but it's mine so it's an androgyne's shirt). Both Old Spice and Secret.  Tough old jeans and stompy biker boots.  I felt like I was dressing for gender battle.

I love this shirt.  I've worn it only once, and that was to a feast during a weekend dedicated to Hethert (Hathor), the Egyptian goddess of femininity, love and joy.  (In Kemetic Orthodox terms, I'm "beloved of" Her, meaning my primary relationship is with a different deity but She is a big influence.)  At that time I was still identifying as male, but definitely knew something was going on.  I was influenced pretty heavily by that event actually.

Uh, anyway.  This is me in wrath:  I write a forum post telling people they can't be sexist and homophobic, and I dress nice.  Quake with fear, evildoers!
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on July 26, 2011, 09:14:35 AM
Quote from: foosnark on July 26, 2011, 08:57:58 AM
Uh, anyway.  This is me in wrath:

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Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: ativan on July 26, 2011, 10:22:03 AM
ya know, it would be really nice to say I have a mild temperment. I'm definetly better than a few yrs ago. Drugs and electric shock treatment can do that. Plus I made a huge effort to just be as mellow as I can. I know that the tarnished side of me still comes out, but it's with much more control and I can actually feel remorse for things I've said and done in the recent past.

It makes me think that people who just think something is wrong, and then find out they are Androgynes, well it brings a huge relief. It did for me and couldn't have happened at better time. I think that that is the root of mild temperament. You know more of where you are in relation to everything else. And you do'nt even have to work at it. You learn to trust it, trust others around you.

But, as for myself, I don't think of the term mild temperament applies as it does for everyone else. But, I'm always trying to work on it.
I can feel love rather than just knowing that it is there.

Ativan
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on July 26, 2011, 10:31:58 AM
Well, not all males aggressive and females passive - these generalisations are only generalisations.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Nero on July 26, 2011, 10:45:45 AM
I'm beginning to think I'm of a mild temperament. :D I'm a lot calmer and nicer on T. Or is it transition that did it? Or both?
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: foosnark on July 26, 2011, 11:10:52 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on July 26, 2011, 09:14:35 AM
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Exactly.  I wiggle my ears in fury!

It didn't occur to me before, but I'm wearing pink and blue.  Even my socks have blue stripes.  I'm accidentally more symbolic than I was trying to be.  Awesome. :)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: ativan on July 26, 2011, 11:45:32 AM
Quote from: Forum Admin on July 26, 2011, 10:45:45 AM
I'm beginning to think I'm of a mild temperament. :D I'm a lot calmer and nicer on T. Or is it transition that did it? Or both?
you'd think it would make you more aggressive, but I've heard from several people that T seems to have mellowed them out.

And I cannot think of you as being anything but mellow.

Ativan
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on July 26, 2011, 11:54:57 AM
Quote from: Forum Admin on July 26, 2011, 10:45:45 AM
I'm beginning to think I'm of a mild temperament.

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An emotican just couldn't do the emotion justice.


Quote from: i on July 26, 2011, 11:45:32 AM
And I cannot think of you as being anything but mellow.

(s->-bleeped-<-)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Taka on July 26, 2011, 12:06:11 PM
the moon is growing ever smaller, always out of sight in this land of a torturing midnight sun
and my patience will wane and wax with the moon

i could not be considered mild tempered right now
but in a few days it'll get better again
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on July 28, 2011, 09:10:08 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on July 25, 2011, 02:07:00 PM
No, that was one penguin - at the zoo - and he was peeing, they were not nerve toxins.

well it felt like nerve toxins.

thanks for the excellent response!   :)
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on July 28, 2011, 09:17:47 AM
Quote from: foosnark on July 26, 2011, 08:57:58 AM
Today I am an angry androgyne...

[edited for brevity]

Uh, anyway.  This is me in wrath:  I write a forum post telling people they can't be sexist and homophobic, and I dress nice.  Quake with fear, evildoers!

I really enjoyed how your wrath seemed to dissipate as you got into the details of your clothing.  :)

I can't be sure if the hets are echoing what they think they hear from minorities, or if some of them really feel threatened. I would probably address them as to how they feel they are threatened. Maybe they need hetero-pride day or something?  Or just a reassurance that it's okay for them to be 'different'.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on July 28, 2011, 09:20:47 AM
Quote from: Forum Admin on July 26, 2011, 10:45:45 AM
I'm beginning to think I'm of a mild temperament. :D I'm a lot calmer and nicer on T. Or is it transition that did it? Or both?

there's no way you calmed down.   :P

It's nice to see you're happier, Bub.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: RebeccaFog on July 28, 2011, 09:24:02 AM
Quote from: i on July 26, 2011, 11:45:32 AM
you'd think it would make you more aggressive, but I've heard from several people that T seems to have mellowed them out.

And I cannot think of you as being anything but mellow.

Ativan

Boy, did you come to the show late.   :D
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: ativan on July 28, 2011, 10:02:21 AM
Sounds like the T is working then, don't it. Sorry I didn't get to see all of the show, I was told about this place after it started.

Ativan
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: ZaidaZadkiel on July 28, 2011, 12:33:43 PM
You know, I am pretty mild-tempered, I rarely get emotional. When I do it doesn't lasts much.
But I have a skill to say hurtful things and to "disarm" people with random things. For example, with a smile.

I might as well make someone feel the most awesome person in the world, or the worst vermin, lower than mud.

Depends on my mood, i suppose.
Title: Re: Why Are Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?
Post by: Pica Pica on July 29, 2011, 07:59:12 AM
In England, mild is so prized, it even comes in drink form.

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