Hi friends :)
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It's back! I got some new clothes . . . will take pics this weekend . . . I just need the courage to post in the public forum......... ???
Quote from: JRD on November 15, 2013, 07:35:48 AM
If I(monstrous and old) can post a pic, you can too. Just say screw it and do it...
:laugh: Thanks JRD! I'm really pretty awesome at saying "screw it."
To be clear, I'm not worried about what people will say!! ♥ ♥
Before the festivities begin, I want to thank the Staff for removing the thread that this one replaces. I was openly critical of some of the content being left up, and I am not sad to see it gone. Again, thanks for keeping this a place where we can all be welcome.
Hugs, Devlyn
This is me, pre-HRT! Constructive feedback and comments would be greatly appreciated! :)
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Ok lets test the water,
Pre everything other than a lifetime of torment and facing a decision point of risk it all or battle on as is.
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Quote from: Just Gwynne! on November 15, 2013, 08:07:17 AM
This is me, pre-HRT! Constructive feedback and comments would be greatly appreciated! :)
I really love your hair!!! :) And I need a necklace like that -- scoop neck shirts look good with something up there!
Quote from: Debbie55 on November 15, 2013, 08:11:51 AM
Ok lets test the water,
Pre everything other than a lifetime of torment and facing a decision point of risk it all or battle on as is.
I'd have thought you at least had a start on HRT. I like the first outfit - it looks good with the sweater, but I really like that black & white shirt in the 2nd.
Gwynn, you have nice round facial features and androgynous structure so I think with HRT you'll pass just fine. :)
Debbie I think your body is lovely in the female range, and you have a great feminine style. I also think with hormones you will blend well, but that an obstacle to passing might be the length of your face. I don't read your face as super masculine at all, but the length including height f forehead is in the male range Id say. Not a big deal in terms of passing out in the world, if you ask me, as I think you can solve this by wearing a long bang that stops just at your brow level. This will reshape your face and balance your whole look. My opinion, of course. Things like bangs are stereotypical trans lady techniques to pass but they work. Just don't get super blunt bangs, make sure they're cut with a soft edge - you don't want any harsh lines. Also the hair you've got in this photo is very pretty and I think that the edges of bangs for trans ladies should be longer quite like your wig in this photo. So yeah...bangs that get longer on th edges and soft fade into the rest of the hair
Before HRT we just can't see ourselves yet sometimes and the way it changes even our skin itself is super feminizing.
Quote from: kabit on November 15, 2013, 08:25:02 AM
I'd have thought you at least had a start on HRT. I like the first outfit - it looks good with the sweater, but I really like that black & white shirt in the 2nd.
Thanks, That's really encouraging that I'm doing something right. BTW the black and white top if from Ross if your in the area of one, not sure if they still have that pattern but they often carry the style, I have a closet full of them lol.
Quote from: PrincessDi on November 15, 2013, 03:17:17 PM
Debbie I think your body is lovely in the female range, and you have a great feminine style. I also think with hormones you will blend well, but that an obstacle to passing might be the length of your face. I don't read your face as super masculine at all, but the length including height f forehead is in the male range Id say. Not a big deal in terms of passing out in the world, if you ask me, as I think you can solve this by wearing a long bang that stops just at your brow level. This will reshape your face and balance your whole look. My opinion, of course. Things like bangs are stereotypical trans lady techniques to pass but they work. Just don't get super blunt bangs, make sure they're cut with a soft edge - you don't want any harsh lines. Also the hair you've got in this photo is very pretty and I think that the edges of bangs for trans ladies should be longer quite like your wig in this photo. So yeah...bangs that get longer on th edges and soft fade into the rest of the hair
Before HRT we just can't see ourselves yet sometimes and the way it changes even our skin itself is super feminizing.
Thanks Di Glad to hear you don't think I have a super masculine face, it always seem like it is to me. Its my cheeks that always bother me the most, there just seems too much there for my liking and any tight photo crop of just my face always looks male to me. Hoping that more weight loss will help, when I uploaded those photos I saw some old ones in my flikr account a thought maybe I should post them in the before and after thread as well lol
? Full cheeks are very feminine
IDK then, there just seems to be something un feminine to the lower half of my face and it just seems too "full" Maybe (hopefully) its just a combination of beard shadow and male fat patterns that can be dealt with or changed around with the right chemistry. Maybe I should at least pluck up the courage to book that first laser session.
Oh you mean lower cheek area I thought you meant cheekbone area
Hello friends! My name is Aeron, or ari, or erin.. I dunno right now. o_o
Okay!
i've been on hormones for roughly 2 years now.
I just started electrolysis.. I'm not wearing foundation here, I normally just wear mascara and lipgloss and sometimes color my eyebrows in slightly. I dress rather punkish but only wearing skirts and dresses.. I'm deathly afraid of pants. I'm also growing my hair out currently.. But I struggle with cutting it when i get emotional. Somewhat considering FFS on my jaw but not sure.. My voice has not been worked on.. Also! I'm going to be a body piercer! I love piercings and jewelry so thats why they're in my face. I try to have feminine, small jewelry. What are your thoughts and suggestions?
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I guess I'll re-post the pics I had on the old thread as I didn't get much feedback. I just started HRT and have been on spiro for about 2 weeks now. I was just curious about my potential to pass one day, any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
Also to Gwynne and Debbie, from what I can see from your pictures it looks like you both have great starting points pre-HRT, I would imagine you should both have no trouble passing!
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P.S. I didn't get a chance to thank Robin Mack for her response before the old thread was locked, it was a big confidence booster and I really appreciated it!
Ari, beautiful girl! I know I gave you feed back once I hope it was helpful? Ill not give it again unless you would like me to :)
Rbard, you have a very pretty face and your major masculine feature is your high and broad forehead. Try getting some long soft edges bangs and pill the rest back in a pony tail and I bet you'll pass great. Plus you're not even changed from HRT yet... So yay!
Quote from: PrincessDi on November 15, 2013, 08:46:21 PM
Ari, beautiful girl! I know I gave you feed back once I hope it was helpful? Ill not give it again unless you would like me to :)
Rbard, you have a very pretty face and your major masculine feature is your high and broad forehead. Try getting some long soft edges bangs and pill the rest back in a pony tail and I bet you'll pass great. Plus you're not even changed from HRT yet... So yay!
hey girly,
I'm taking your advice with the hair! that stuck out the most for me! growing my hair out passed my shoulders hopefully won't take longer then a year =[ Anymore advice i'd love.<3
Ok... as promised! Here I am in my new Old Navy T-shirt! ♥ this shirt... think I could wear it out? :D (I probably won't... unless "out" is to the therapist's)
Front View:
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Side View:
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Quote from: kabit on November 15, 2013, 09:21:26 PM
Ok... as promised! Here I am in my new Old Navy T-shirt! ♥ this shirt... think I could wear it out? :D (I probably won't... unless "out" is to the therapist's)
Tarah, it's lovely to put a face to the bunny :D
You have softer features, nice cheekbones and a button
ish nose. Clear that beard shadow (which I know you're on), have your brows done, and consider a hairstyle with bangs and I think you'll be on track!
All the best! ;D
Quote from: Torn1990 on November 15, 2013, 07:38:34 PM
Hello friends! My name is Aeron, or ari, or erin.. I dunno right now. o_o
Hi Aeron,
I definitely see a girl in those pictures. While I do see what you mean about your jaw, I don't think it's as prominent or glaring as you think. One thing that does jump out at me is your hairline, which is clearly receding towards the corners. You might consider a hairstyle with slight bangs to cover this.
Quote from: Just Gwynne! on November 15, 2013, 09:50:41 PM
Hi Aeron,
I definitely see a girl in those pictures. While I do see what you mean about your jaw, I don't think it's as prominent or glaring as you think. One thing that does jump out at me is your hairline, which is clearly receding towards the corners. You might consider a hairstyle with slight bangs to cover this.
thankyou
wait, i have bangs, you want them longer? or you talking to someone else?
Quote from: Torn1990 on November 15, 2013, 10:11:52 PM
thankyou
wait, i have bangs, you want them longer? or you talking to someone else?
Sorry for not being clearer. I don't have the vocabulary yet to talk about hairstyles. I think that you have a traditional kind of bangs because they're the same length across the front. What I mean is that the bangs have sort of a square shape in contrast to your longer curls. I was thinking that having your bangs longer at the side would make your hairline more feminine (and have a sort of middle stage between the bangs at the front and the long hair at the back). I hope this helps!
Quote from: Just Gwynne! on November 15, 2013, 10:14:55 PM
Sorry for not being clearer. I don't have the vocabulary yet to talk about hairstyles. I think that you have a traditional kind of bangs because they're the same length across the front. What I mean is that the bangs have sort of a square shape in contrast to your longer curls. I was thinking that having your bangs longer at the side would make your hairline more feminine (and have a sort of middle stage between the bangs at the front and the long hair at the back). I hope this helps!
thanks girl ;) ill work on the bangs :laugh:
Quote from: Torn1990 on November 15, 2013, 07:38:34 PM
Hello friends! My name is Aeron, or ari, or erin.. I dunno right now. o_o
Okay!
i've been on hormones for roughly 2 years now.
I just started electrolysis.. I'm not wearing foundation here, I normally just wear mascara and lipgloss and sometimes color my eyebrows in slightly. I dress rather punkish but only wearing skirts and dresses.. I'm deathly afraid of pants. I'm also growing my hair out currently.. But I struggle with cutting it when i get emotional.
Somewhat considering FFS on my jaw but not sure.. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv600%2FUnhappyFaces%2FPhotoon2013-11-15at19335_zps1bc09021.jpg&hash=1d1273e508fed08fa604b73109c6eaacfc97f88f)
I think it's a nice hair style :) I like this pic. the best
Quote from: Just Gwynne! on November 15, 2013, 08:07:17 AM
This is me, pre-HRT! Constructive feedback and comments would be greatly appreciated! :)
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Love the hair! Very cute. You look great!
Just for fun (and because I was finally able to find a copy of this picture), me at three years old:
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What do you think, was I a passable three year old? ;D
Quote from: Miyuki on November 16, 2013, 07:44:49 PM
What do you think, was I a passable three year old? ;D
What a cute little girl ;)
All children pass as children!
Today went out on errands and did NOT wear my oversize sweater which is very girly but also hides my growing bewbs o.O Not seen in the picture, but it was a little adventurous for me, especially since I went to the largest mall in the area :o
Did something new with the makeup, bold lips and a ton of mascara (although you can't see it that well)
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I think you look nice :)
Hey everyone! My name is Veronica, or Roni for short. I am new to the forums and this is actually my very first post. :D
I am MtF pre-everything, have never tried living full or part time, and will hopefully begin HRT in a few months. Was wondering what people's thoughts were on my chances of passing? (Pics below).
I am aware my eyebrows are way too thick, but I am nowhere near going full-time so I haven't had any work done on my brows yet. When I fix my eyebrows, and grow out hair and/or get a good wig, that is, what are my chances of passing? I am 21 years-old.
I am currently in the process of losing weight (~30 pounds to go), as I've been told losing weight before HRT was a good idea.
First picture is without any makeup at all, second picture is with minimal eyeliner and mascara and that's it:
http://i43.tinypic.com/116how4.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/28c3qma.jpg
Also recorded my voice for some thoughts on how I can sound more feminine. Sorry if I sound valley-girl-ish, or if my accent is a little quirky. Was raised heavily in the Asian-American community: http://vocaroo.com/i/s04HJhgFjqzP
Could I possibly pass? That's about the only thing lingering in my head and I wanted to get a general consensus before I dived headfirst into my transition (not like anything could stop me at this point, but).
Would greatly appreciate all of your thoughts! Thanks! :)
I think you have a good base to start with and sound rather female Veronica :)
me without makeup .-. http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=a6BMdyuA%2FVyhjI6VZkSu0Yh4l5k2TGxc
me with it .-. http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=a6BMdyuA%2FVzzwY8wP7BeXYh4l5k2TGxc
both I think are ugly what do you think? can I pass?
Quote from: Adrilynn on November 17, 2013, 02:17:26 PM
me without makeup .-. http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=a6BMdyuA%2FVyhjI6VZkSu0Yh4l5k2TGxc
me with it .-. http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=a6BMdyuA%2FVzzwY8wP7BeXYh4l5k2TGxc
both I think are ugly what do you think? can I pass?
You have nice cheekbones, soft features, and pretty eyes. Dressed femininely, I suspect you'd pass. :)
well thanks Gwynne :) nice of you to say I am actually going to talk to my doctor about starting hormone replacement therapy asap I have an appointment tomorrow so I'm going to bring it up I'm also consideing facial feminization surgery and sex reassignment surgery
Hopefully starting HRT pretty soon, cannot wait!
To what extent do you think HRT will help make my face look better?
Thanks!
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http://s1366.photobucket.com/user/NatalieT123/media/image201311170010_zps2ddd3853.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
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I think you already know that you pass as a woman pre-HRT! If you're unaware - it's true! Excellent bone structure very fem...congratulations
Quote from: PrincessDi on November 17, 2013, 04:09:25 PM
I think you already know that you pass as a woman pre-HRT! If you're unaware - it's true! Excellent bone structure very fem...congratulations
Wow, really? I always look in the mirror and see an ugly man-beast staring back :(
Then I look at my beautiful 13 year old sister, who is obviously just going to get even more beautiful as she progresses through puberty and it makes me so sad!
Do you think I pass better with the natural, slightly wavy hair, or straightened hair? (pic below)
http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r766/NatalieT123/image201311170011_zpsf2b8cf43.jpg
Quote from: Harlow on November 16, 2013, 09:32:10 PM
Today went out on errands and did NOT wear my oversize sweater which is very girly but also hides my growing bewbs o.O Not seen in the picture, but it was a little adventurous for me, especially since I went to the largest mall in the area :o
Did something new with the makeup, bold lips and a ton of mascara (although you can't see it that well)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi145.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr227%2FThaliesin%2FHRT%2F278ccd28-a033-456b-9b25-0cabd7806bde_zpsb72e4a9f.jpg&hash=a5c606291bfa0ef215cc81dd3ccdbfc6fc021367)
Harlow, I think you look really pretty! The make-up definitely complements your complexion, and is very feminising :D
Quote from: V M on November 17, 2013, 04:25:39 AM
I think you have a good base to start with and sound rather female Veronica :)
Thank you! :) I appreciate the comments.
Quote from: Just Gwynne! on November 15, 2013, 09:40:30 PM
Tarah, it's lovely to put a face to the bunny :D
You have softer features, nice cheekbones and a buttonish nose. Clear that beard shadow (which I know you're on), have your brows done, and consider a hairstyle with bangs and I think you'll be on track!
All the best! ;D
+1 Right on, good to see the Kabit in the flesh! :)
Thanks, everyone ♥
And thank you for the comments. I'm working on hair... but it's still short and I have no idea what I'm doing! (I started combing it more forward and that looks a bit better, I think).
I also love all the pictures on here... I just don't really feel qualified to comment! I think everyone looks beautiful and I'm not a good critic.
Quote from: Roni1992 on November 17, 2013, 04:04:54 AM
http://i40.tinypic.com/28c3qma.jpg
Also recorded my voice for some thoughts on how I can sound more feminine. Sorry if I sound valley-girl-ish, or if my accent is a little quirky. Was raised heavily in the Asian-American community: http://vocaroo.com/i/s04HJhgFjqzP
Could I possibly pass? That's about the only thing lingering in my head and I wanted to get a general consensus before I dived headfirst into my transition (not like anything could stop me at this point, but).
Would greatly appreciate all of your thoughts! Thanks! :)
I don't think you are going to have any problems. Lucky girl.
I'm totally jealous of you veronica ;_; you are prettier than me you can see me on page 2 (links)
Quote from: kabit on November 17, 2013, 07:09:34 PM
Thanks, everyone ♥
And thank you for the comments. I'm working on hair... but it's still short and I have no idea what I'm doing! (I started combing it more forward and that looks a bit better, I think).
I also love all the pictures on here... I just don't really feel qualified to comment! I think everyone looks beautiful and I'm not a good critic.
Me too, I'm a terrible critic so I usually don't say much since I suffer from foot-in-mouth disease. :D
Hey, I posted in the last thread but completely forgot until I noticed my image had 200+ views! I just wanted to say thanks for the kind words, it really means a lot! :D
Well.....here goes nothing.
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Pre-HRT. My hair is pulled back, it's very curly :) I'll post some better pics soon.
Quote from: Gabrielle on November 17, 2013, 07:10:43 PM
I don't think you are going to have any problems. Lucky girl.
You girls are way too kind. :D Thank you so much!
Quote from: Adrilynn on November 17, 2013, 07:26:12 PM
I'm totally jealous of you veronica ;_; you are prettier than me you can see me on page 2 (links)
Couldn't find your pictures! Where are they?
Quote from: Adrilynn on November 17, 2013, 02:17:26 PM
me without makeup .-. http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=a6BMdyuA%2FVyhjI6VZkSu0Yh4l5k2TGxc
me with it .-. http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=a6BMdyuA%2FVzzwY8wP7BeXYh4l5k2TGxc
both I think are ugly what do you think? can I pass?
Looking good there, though I would say you pass better in the no make up pic, though that may just be the angle and my preference for a more natural look. I do have to say though, get those brows plucked asap!!!
Aeron I think you're quite passable,
If I had some little tips? For your facial shape and your features, make-up wise you'd suit a light liquid liner flick - just from the start of the lashline.
Your eyebrows are slightly more masculine than what they could be, the shape adds a severity to your face which is in turns adds masculinity.
And I think you'd really suit long brunette hair, and then to go with that long brunette hair - a bit more tint to your skin, perhaps a darker foundation colour than what you're used to -
PREPARE FOR HILARITY, the Photoshop rendition I quickly made looks very crude, but if it works in a crude suggestion, it'd work even better in real life. Use alot of imagination when envisioning it!
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@Debbie55
Your shoes in the second image are fantastic, and that printed fabric on your top is chic!
The energy you portray in your look and your projection is amazingly approachable and has a look of kindness,
Your wig in the first image, gives off a greyish look in the the first image and it's a bit shiny. For a really nice brunette wig go on eBay and get them for literally $10- $15 and they look insanely realistic - specifically referring to the ones from the sellers from China/Hong Kong, or to matte down the shine from your original wig you can use a talc powder.
With another thing that would make you look more passable, I just feel stockings don't feel so fresh and vibrant! I feel you'd look more relaxed without the stockings in your look or a natural skintone stocking instead, looking comfortable and vibrant will make you pass more smoothly. The gloss on your lip-shade would look more chic as a matte (trust), I feel the heavy gloss also looks slightly uncomfortable and not so fresh.
Quote from: Belleza on November 18, 2013, 06:33:28 AM
PREPARE FOR HILARITY, the Photoshop rendition I quickly made looks very crude, but if it works in a crude suggestion, it'd work even better in real life. Use alot of imagination when envisioning it!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs17.postimg.org%2Fhx6hxayzz%2Fvefore.png&hash=76333d34e766aaab1f5bcc18da558e6c79696a48)
I can't believe you did that for her. That is so cool! :D
Quote from: Starla on November 18, 2013, 04:00:49 AM
Well.....here goes nothing.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi42.tinypic.com%2F17bq69.jpg&hash=62d82b43e5997c577051279f195ddb3e7b484a4f)
Pre-HRT. My hair is pulled back, it's very curly :) I'll post some better pics soon.
Cute. Your chin has a very nice shape and you look really comfortable/confident. It'll be easier to offer more specific feedback when we can see your entire face. :)
OK, as the old thread has been deleted, so I would like to post again two pictures taken yesterday.
Just for the record. My name is Marina, I am 40 years old, and I have not yet started HRT.
I am planning to remove the beard with laser but for now I simply shave and use foundation.
in the photos I was wearing a bit of make up, I am starting to learn..
They were taken yesterday... how do I score?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fi9cEH7J.jpg&hash=a420b7257f01c8012f95550439b0808f5701ea38)
and
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMyMNoOR.jpg&hash=68a0323947e7b36cb7e7f9634012c23bd349daf2)
Thanks for any comment!
Quote from: Marina mtf on November 18, 2013, 08:20:14 AM
OK, as the old thread has been deleted, so I would like to post again two pictures taken yesterday.
Just for the record. My name is Marina, I am 40 years old, and I have not yet started HRT.
I am planning to remove the beard with laser but for now I simply shave and use foundation.
in the photos I was wearing a bit of make up, I am starting to learn..
They were taken yesterday... how do I score?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fi9cEH7J.jpg&hash=a420b7257f01c8012f95550439b0808f5701ea38)
and
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMyMNoOR.jpg&hash=68a0323947e7b36cb7e7f9634012c23bd349daf2)
Thanks for any comment!
You look nice Marina, the lips are full and rather pretty. I think a little eyeliner would enhance your eyes as would some work extending your eyebrows a little farther out. I assume that you will be growing out your hair and getting it styled eventually. I like your taste in clothing, very stylish and your pose is extremely feminine. Very attractive Marina!
Yes, I am growing hair... waiting for a decent length to be styled... maybe next spring, when I will hopefully start HRT.
I am a total beginner for make up, I just learnt to apply a bit foundation and lip gloss... I tried eyeliner but the
results were not presentable :-X :-\ I will have to ask a female friend to teach me some basic make up, in the
meantime I watch you Tube tutorials.
thanks kaylee :) yah I needa pluck .-. and roni kaylee reposted my links :)
@Belleza
Thank you for the great feedback, yeah I do like shoes, defiantly got that bit of the female psyche and those ones are really comfortable. Some great advice you have given me and I will have to try it out and such kind words also, not sure they are words I would have ever attached to the male me and so nice to hear in relation to the inner me.
Quote from: Miyuki on November 16, 2013, 07:44:49 PM
Just for fun (and because I was finally able to find a copy of this picture), me at three years old:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg69%2F928%2Feg7x.jpg&hash=d21084025b1df16d6c810f3b9942309af7c42e23)
What do you think, was I a passable three year old? ;D
You probably dont want to hear it... but You do look very much like my daughter :) :) :)
Quote from: Miyuki on November 16, 2013, 07:44:49 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg69%2F928%2Feg7x.jpg&hash=d21084025b1df16d6c810f3b9942309af7c42e23)
"They're heeere."
Quote from: Belleza on November 18, 2013, 06:33:28 AM
Aeron I think you're quite passable,
If I had some little tips? For your facial shape and your features, make-up wise you'd suit a light liquid liner flick - just from the start of the lashline.
Your eyebrows are slightly more masculine than what they could be, the shape adds a severity to your face which is in turns adds masculinity.
And I think you'd really suit long brunette hair, and then to go with that long brunette hair - a bit more tint to your skin, perhaps a darker foundation colour than what you're used to -
PREPARE FOR HILARITY, the Photoshop rendition I quickly made looks very crude, but if it works in a crude suggestion, it'd work even better in real life. Use alot of imagination when envisioning it!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs17.postimg.org%2Fhx6hxayzz%2Fvefore.png&hash=76333d34e766aaab1f5bcc18da558e6c79696a48)
^that is the most ridiculous thing i've ever seen. But, thank you, lol.
I'm not using a darker foundation then the color of my skin, what the heck! I'll look bizarre!
Thankyou for the advice with the brows, and the hair color... I might try brown, but i'm enjoying the blond until it grows out. Darker hair tends to look rough on me because my eyelashes and eyebrows are such a light color..
... I just will not put on a lot of makeup. I just wont.. Light foundation if anything, but not a foundation that's darker then my pale skin tone.
Sadly winged eyeliner looks like bull->-bleeped-<- on me because when i smile i have heavy wrinkles around my eyes, but i definitely love mascara..
I found my high(ish) quality pics from my birthday! I'm at two and a bit months here.
Full body:
(https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q71/s720x720/994664_611299158930345_324854205_n.jpg)
Face:
(https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/q71/s720x720/581799_611299098930351_1707604771_n.jpg)
I know, beard... These are seriously right after shaving. No matter what I try, I still have shadow. Oh LHR, how I long after your siren call...
Anyways, besides that, what do you think?
Quote from: Kristal on November 18, 2013, 08:35:37 PM
I found my high(ish) quality pics from my birthday! I'm at two and a bit months here.
Face:
(https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/q71/s720x720/581799_611299098930351_1707604771_n.jpg)
I know, beard... These are seriously right after shaving. No matter what I try, I still have shadow. Oh LHR, how I long after your siren call...
Anyways, besides that, what do you think?
I really like this pic. Your features look really soft here and your hair is very pretty. :)
I know you like your black lipstick, but I'd like to see what you'd look like with a less discordant colour. I think you'd pass really nicely.
Quote from: Just Gwynne! on November 18, 2013, 08:40:18 PM
I really like this pic. Your features look really soft here and your hair is very pretty. :)
I know you like your black lipstick, but I'd like to see what you'd look like with a less discordant colour. I think you'd pass really nicely.
Yeah, I know. I look like a Rocky Horror cast member. This is the only lipstick I have. I really should get another colour or twelve...
I've got one from tonight with no lipstick, but I had to shave with a spoon (figuratively speaking, of course) so it looks terrible.
(https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/q71/s720x720/1472038_611296688930592_1813526085_n.jpg)
Well, today is my last day before I start my laser treatment tomorrow, so I decided to go shopping. Good reason, huh? I think I will go after too. lol. So, I bought a few new outfits, let me know if I look like ok, or if I just have everything wrong and I look like a mess. Again, no make up as this is athletic wear and I wanted an idea what I might look like working out.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FIMG_20131118_191904_332.jpg&hash=face1b65649f9a637cb7d1404313492c8a515b10)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FIMG_20131118_194338_979.jpg&hash=ffce302e4ea9846c2f2ce878a4d9a9c372a5ff2e) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FIMG_20131118_192423_901.jpg&hash=4f8daf42158b3effbc4207cd79e336de3caaa03e)
Quote from: Ксениа on November 18, 2013, 08:51:45 PM
Well, today is my last day before I start my laser treatment tomorrow, so I decided to go shopping. Good reason, huh? I think I will go after too. lol. So, I bought a few new outfits, let me know if I look like ok, or if I just have everything wrong and I look like a mess. Again, no make up as this is athletic wear and I wanted an idea what I might look like working out.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FIMG_20131118_191904_332.jpg&hash=face1b65649f9a637cb7d1404313492c8a515b10)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FIMG_20131118_194338_979.jpg&hash=ffce302e4ea9846c2f2ce878a4d9a9c372a5ff2e) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FIMG_20131118_192423_901.jpg&hash=4f8daf42158b3effbc4207cd79e336de3caaa03e)
HNNG! I love that white top, you look like you're part of a techno-fusion band or something.
Quote from: Ксениа on November 18, 2013, 08:51:45 PM
Well, today is my last day before I start my laser treatment tomorrow, so I decided to go shopping. Good reason, huh? I think I will go after too. lol. So, I bought a few new outfits, let me know if I look like ok, or if I just have everything wrong and I look like a mess. Again, no make up as this is athletic wear and I wanted an idea what I might look like working out.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FIMG_20131118_191904_332.jpg&hash=face1b65649f9a637cb7d1404313492c8a515b10)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FIMG_20131118_194338_979.jpg&hash=ffce302e4ea9846c2f2ce878a4d9a9c372a5ff2e) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FIMG_20131118_192423_901.jpg&hash=4f8daf42158b3effbc4207cd79e336de3caaa03e)
OMG!Your hair is really lovely. Is it naturally wavy like that? Also you totally pass in my eyes.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F31.media.tumblr.com%2F1bf0a3e11996529e20ef81592f2f7443%2Ftumblr_mwcgu8t5iy1sqpx5oo1_1280.jpg&hash=3f4f7b392f952c27c3ad25c595ef4ed90d5e145c)
Me 500 days on Hormones.
Quote from: R_Bard on November 15, 2013, 07:40:39 PM
I guess I'll re-post the pics I had on the old thread as I didn't get much feedback. I just started HRT and have been on spiro for about 2 weeks now. I was just curious about my potential to pass one day, any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
Also to Gwynne and Debbie, from what I can see from your pictures it looks like you both have great starting points pre-HRT, I would imagine you should both have no trouble passing!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3794%2F10794707105_9ea147bb88_o.jpg&hash=e9c5a37afa825c4a4d744de41d1617ce791da3cc)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7346%2F10794730226_8e00018da6_o.jpg&hash=9588839079b6fa8fa29bd770c3f23ab0f0455cc0)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2842%2F10794737266_d8b6c5edb9_o.jpg&hash=0ec9a490c86da57499e06a6ded1fd5f0024949ec)
P.S. I didn't get a chance to thank Robin Mack for her response before the old thread was locked, it was a big confidence booster and I really appreciated it!
I think you could pass already depending on your clothing.
Quote from: Kristal on November 18, 2013, 08:58:16 PM
HNNG! I love that white top, you look like you're part of a techno-fusion band or something.
Thank you, soo, I look cool too?
Quote from: Aruna on November 18, 2013, 09:04:46 PM
OMG!Your hair is really lovely. Is it naturally wavy like that? Also you totally pass in my eyes.
It is a wig. I am still waiting for my hair to grow. This is me without the wig. It is messy as this was taken while changing outfits an putting the wig on, and taking it off numerous times.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FIMG_20131118_193126_678.jpg&hash=153d7c04ccfb40600841927213fe530e6c94c7d0)
Quote from: Aruna on November 18, 2013, 09:13:06 PM
I think you could pass already depending on your clothing.
I agree!!!
Quote from: Ксениа on November 18, 2013, 09:17:57 PM
It is a wig. I am still waiting for my hair to grow. This is me without the wig. It is messy as this was taken while changing outfits an putting the wig on, and taking it off numerous times.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FIMG_20131118_193126_678.jpg&hash=153d7c04ccfb40600841927213fe530e6c94c7d0)
Hair does make quite a difference. Short hair makes you look more butch. You have a very pretty facial bone structure.
Quote from: Aruna on November 18, 2013, 09:07:21 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F31.media.tumblr.com%2F1bf0a3e11996529e20ef81592f2f7443%2Ftumblr_mwcgu8t5iy1sqpx5oo1_1280.jpg&hash=3f4f7b392f952c27c3ad25c595ef4ed90d5e145c)
Me 500 days on Hormones.
I just wanted to say you look like Mila Kunis in your profile pic.
Quote from: Ксениа on November 18, 2013, 09:17:57 PM
It is a wig. I am still waiting for my hair to grow. This is me without the wig. It is messy as this was taken while changing outfits an putting the wig on, and taking it off numerous times.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FIMG_20131118_193126_678.jpg&hash=153d7c04ccfb40600841927213fe530e6c94c7d0)
Hi, hope you don't mind a dude giving his two cents. IMO you pass very well with long hair it gives your face a softer look but I was wondering have you tried extensions as opposed to a full on wig? The length of the hair is great ! it's just something about the position of it maybe?
Well I guess I will join the fun too. :)
Pre-everything except shopping :P
Ok, so the first one is a few months old and is with makeup and stuff. The second is from last night, when I wasn't presenting female, because I'm not out to anyone yet :( and the full shot is what I had on last night, and I'm not that freakishly tall it was just a bad angle...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1322.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu570%2Fblastradiuss%2FIMG_20130906_155837_zps98eca41a.jpg&hash=3a93da143555a2e1c0e1af0f7a07c6f9fde277cd) (http://s1322.photobucket.com/user/blastradiuss/media/IMG_20130906_155837_zps98eca41a.jpg.html) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1322.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu570%2Fblastradiuss%2FIMG_20131118_035842_zpsc24014b3.jpg&hash=7f89ec49615cc1313b600ec730c7329effebe434) (http://s1322.photobucket.com/user/blastradiuss/media/IMG_20131118_035842_zpsc24014b3.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1322.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu570%2Fblastradiuss%2FIMG_20131118_040409_zpsea5b4584.jpg&hash=0daac527dc99e947200c78a92615df46d382d8ab) (http://s1322.photobucket.com/user/blastradiuss/media/IMG_20131118_040409_zpsea5b4584.jpg.html)
So, what do y'all think, and what can I work on?
Quote from: Blastradius on November 18, 2013, 10:41:19 PM
Well I guess I will join the fun too. :)
Pre-everything except shopping :P
Ok, so the first one is a few months old and is with makeup and stuff. The second is from last night, when I wasn't presenting female, because I'm not out to anyone yet :( and the full shot is what I had on last night, and I'm not that freakishly tall it was just a bad angle...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1322.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu570%2Fblastradiuss%2FIMG_20130906_155837_zps98eca41a.jpg&hash=3a93da143555a2e1c0e1af0f7a07c6f9fde277cd) (http://s1322.photobucket.com/user/blastradiuss/media/IMG_20130906_155837_zps98eca41a.jpg.html) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1322.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu570%2Fblastradiuss%2FIMG_20131118_035842_zpsc24014b3.jpg&hash=7f89ec49615cc1313b600ec730c7329effebe434) (http://s1322.photobucket.com/user/blastradiuss/media/IMG_20131118_035842_zpsc24014b3.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1322.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu570%2Fblastradiuss%2FIMG_20131118_040409_zpsea5b4584.jpg&hash=0daac527dc99e947200c78a92615df46d382d8ab) (http://s1322.photobucket.com/user/blastradiuss/media/IMG_20131118_040409_zpsea5b4584.jpg.html)
So, what do y'all think, and what can I work on?
Well, obviously your chin is traditionally masculine. (look who's talking here) HRT might help that, and it might not. Other than that, you look pretty damn good for being pre-E. Your hair is particularly lustrous, I'm sitting over here stewing in my curly jealousy...
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on November 18, 2013, 02:27:57 PM
You probably dont want to hear it... but You do look very much like my daughter :) :) :)
Why on earth wouldn't I want to hear that? :D
Quote from: Ashey on November 18, 2013, 06:52:20 PM
"They're heeere."
Who are they? ???
Quote from: Miyuki on November 19, 2013, 02:46:11 AM
Why on earth wouldn't I want to hear that? :D
LOL... I guess baby-you passes ;)
Quote from: Miyuki on November 19, 2013, 02:46:11 AM
Why on earth wouldn't I want to hear that? :D
Suddenly, I felt so old ;).
Quote from: Aruna on November 18, 2013, 09:07:21 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F31.media.tumblr.com%2F1bf0a3e11996529e20ef81592f2f7443%2Ftumblr_mwcgu8t5iy1sqpx5oo1_1280.jpg&hash=3f4f7b392f952c27c3ad25c595ef4ed90d5e145c)
Me 500 days on Hormones.
Good lord Aruna, what a beautiful head of hair, is that your own? You have a very pretty face almost exotic, get to work on that tummy girl! :)
Here's a few:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fx8kMxyr.jpg&hash=198841fd5fcbe803577a80e40e3bc9147c62cd6a)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Frl4FjvE.jpg&hash=921aed25d0f13ac90fa82e41c370cae71239c185)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fc85tvaK.jpg&hash=ca083c81ae658f17e052771fb235dd95ccdcb077)
Here's one with make-up:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCdG54Qt.jpg&hash=65b1c2e7a611174c28ad8b9c886fdf4af966a491)
These are about 40 days on low dose hormones. Anyone spot anything I should work on? Any tips? Constructive criticism? It would be appreciated...
Quote from: thatboyfresh on November 18, 2013, 10:06:39 PM
Hi, hope you don't mind a dude giving his two cents. IMO you pass very well with long hair it gives your face a softer look but I was wondering have you tried extensions as opposed to a full on wig? The length of the hair is great ! it's just something about the position of it maybe?
Honey why would I mind if a dude gave his two cents???? I actually agree with you 100%, that is why Im not going full-time yet until I fix my hair problem. I am looking to get some extensions soon when the budget allows. The length of the wig hair is great, an I would like for my hair to be longer actually. )Thank you for your 2 cents. :)
Quote from: LordKAT on November 19, 2013, 11:39:42 AM
The movie
Sounds like a generational gap may be at play here. :)
Quote from: Violet Bloom on November 19, 2013, 11:45:14 AM
Sounds like a generational gap may be at play here. :)
*cackles*
Quote from: riversong on November 19, 2013, 01:48:15 PM
I was making a Poltergeist reference too -_-
Well you're all scaring me! ;)
Quote from: Shantel on November 19, 2013, 08:45:44 AM
Good lord Aruna, what a beautiful head of hair, is that your own? You have a very pretty face almost exotic, get to work on that tummy girl! :)
Yep thats my hair. Im starting to work out more.
Quote from: riversong on November 19, 2013, 09:25:37 AM
Here's a few:
These are about 40 days on low dose hormones. Anyone spot anything I should work on? Any tips? Constructive criticism? It would be appreciated...
Hi Riversong!
I'm not good at these critiques but I think you're pretty early into it right now so you'll experience a lot of changes over the next couple of years and will no doubt look quite a bit different. Meanwhile work on those eyebrows and grow your hair longer. Since I'm caucasian I'm not up on makeup techniques that will work best for you, It would be smart to find a nice black gal that would be willing to give you some good pointers. Hang in there though hon, you're going to blossom.
Quote from: Ксениа on November 19, 2013, 10:01:20 AM
Honey why would I mind if a dude gave his two cents???? I actually agree with you 100%, that is why Im not going full-time yet until I fix my hair problem. I am looking to get some extensions soon when the budget allows. The length of the wig hair is great, an I would like for my hair to be longer actually. )Thank you for your 2 cents. :)
I just wasn't sure if this was a no boys aloud only type thing :)
Quote from: Shantel on November 19, 2013, 05:29:46 PM
Hi Riversong!
I'm not good at these critiques but I think you're pretty early into it right now so you'll experience a lot of changes over the next couple of years and will no doubt look quite a bit different. Meanwhile work on those eyebrows and grow your hair longer. Since I'm caucasian I'm not up on makeup techniques that will work best for you, It would be smart to find a nice black gal that would be willing to give you some good pointers. Hang in there though hon, you're going to blossom.
I guess I can take this to be an indirect way of saying I don't look passable? =/
What can I do with my eyebrows? I'm worried that making them any thinner than they already are might be a little too much...
Quote from: riversong on November 19, 2013, 07:20:27 PM
I guess I can take this to be an indirect way of saying I don't look passable? =/
I'm the last one in the world to want to discourage anyone so please don't take it that way. You can't expect miracles having been on low dose hormones for just under two months, it's going to take some time. Then there are those, myself included, who aren't given to naturally feminine facial features, so you can expect to have to work at it and perhaps even consider FFS at some time in the future, meanwhile don't even consider the word "Can't" as a part of this conversation or even of your future thought process, this is a can-do proposition for anyone who has the will and desire to do what it takes. Meanwhile there are a number of good makeup tutorials on the Internet that you can bookmark that will be helpful. It would be best if you could make friends with a real girly-girl type woman and pick her brain for her advise concerning makeup, clothing style and the whole female enchilada.
Quote from: riversong on November 19, 2013, 07:20:27 PM
What can I do with my eyebrows? I'm worried that making them any thinner than they already are might be a little too much...
You don't want to thin your eyebrows but you do want to shape them. Once again there are Eyebrow tutorials on the Internet, check them out hon. Good luck and keep your chin up, you can pull off a successful presentation if you make the effort.
Quote from: thatboyfresh on November 19, 2013, 07:19:46 PM
I just wasn't sure if this was a no boys aloud only type thing :)
I think we're required, by girl code, to spell it "boyz"
or make the "s" backward ;) I didn't see that sign, so I think you're good.
Quote from: thatboyfresh on November 19, 2013, 07:19:46 PM
I just wasn't sure if this was a no boys aloud only type thing :)
Boys are allowed as long as they're not loud!
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DOHOHOHOHOHOH!
Quote from: Aruna on November 19, 2013, 04:29:58 PM
Yep thats my hair. Im starting to work out more.
I love your hair!!!!
Quote from: thatboyfresh on November 19, 2013, 07:19:46 PM
I just wasn't sure if this was a no boys aloud only type thing :)
Actually, most of us really appreciate some input from the guys. Post away!
Quote from: Kristal on November 20, 2013, 08:49:21 PM
Boys are allowed as long as they're not loud!
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DOHOHOHOHOHOH!
@Kabit Girlz and their crazy rules lol
@Kristal I'll try to keep the dial at a medium rare.
@Carrie Liz Well I wasn't sure if some would have a " What do you know about acrylic nails or deep wine red lip stain" :)
Quote from: thatboyfresh on November 20, 2013, 11:46:08 PM
@Kabit Girlz and their crazy rules lol
@Kristal I'll try to keep the dial at a medium rare.
@Carrie Liz Well I wasn't sure if some would have a " What do you know about acrylic nails or deep wine red lip stain" :)
LOL... If my extensive cartoon watching experience has taught me anything... boys have the same rule about girlz, and that rule counts doubly for tree forts!
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Can anyone tell me specifically what's unpassable about my face? I sometimes think I'm passable, but then I get doubtful if I look long enough. But I can't really figure out what it is about my face that keeps me from passing. The usual things I use to judge male or female don't seem to apply to me (muscular, angular face, wide jawline, small lips). Can anyone help me out??
Quote from: riversong on November 21, 2013, 07:55:56 AM
Can anyone tell me specifically what's unpassable about my face? I sometimes think I'm passable, but then I get doubtful if I look long enough. But I can't really figure out what it is about my face that keeps me from passing. The usual things I use to judge male or female don't seem to apply to me (muscular, angular face, wide jawline, small lips). Can anyone help me out??
Riversong,
I was hoping some of the other gals who are generally more adept at these critiques would submit some comments. I re-examined your photos and honestly don't see anything that really screams male at me. You have a nice face, feminine chin and jawline, good cheekbones and pleasant smile. You may have a little brow bossing, it's hard to tell as it's rather faint and some time on female HRT is liable to make that a non-issue. The bridge of your nose is quite broad, but that's an ethnic characteristic, you can learn to diminish that statement using makeup so as not to draw undue attention to that as an outstanding facial feature. You're neck size isn't masculine and I get an impression that you will have a nice figure when the magic medicine has done it's work. Other than that like I previously said, shape the eyebrows and grow a nice girly mane of hair and you should be good to go. Hope this helps hon, I gave it my best honest opinion. xox ~Shan~
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Can anyone tell me specifically what's unpassable about my face? I sometimes think I'm passable, but then I get doubtful if I look long enough. But I can't really figure out what it is about my face that keeps me from passing. The usual things I use to judge male or female don't seem to apply to me (muscular, angular face, wide jawline, small lips). Can anyone help me out??
Being completely honest, looking at the first picture, I wasn't sure about whether you would pass easily or not. But as you said, you don't have any ultra masculine characteristics screaming out!
Then in the second picture with make up, I honestly don't think I would give you a second thought if I passed you in the street. You actually remind me of a very pretty girl from Zinbabwe who was in my biology class last year. I will show you a picture of her face if I can remember her name and find her on Facebook!
Good luck:)
Quote from: kabit on November 21, 2013, 03:45:32 AM
LOL... If my extensive cartoon watching experience has taught me anything... boys have the same rule about girlz, and that rule counts doubly for tree forts!
WHO TELLED!?
Quote from: riversong on November 21, 2013, 07:55:56 AM
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Can anyone tell me specifically what's unpassable about my face? I sometimes think I'm passable, but then I get doubtful if I look long enough. But I can't really figure out what it is about my face that keeps me from passing. The usual things I use to judge male or female don't seem to apply to me (muscular, angular face, wide jawline, small lips). Can anyone help me out??
I don't think that you DON'T pass per se I just think it would depend on how you were presenting your self? Like if I saw you in a more traditionally female outfit an maybe the hair style ( thought the scarf works too) I would say pass. But if I saw you in something a little more androgynous I might have a harder time. Your face doesn't have any hard masculine features that I see!
Quote from: thatboyfresh on November 21, 2013, 01:52:42 PM
WHO TELLED!?
It was Alfalfa. We seduced him with our feminine wiles...
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So what do you guys think of how I'm looking plus might I ask for some suggestions with this hair of mine? It's been almost eleven months since I started on hormones and almost four since a a higher dose. I feel like I'm beginning to show some more progress with my looks though my voice is much left to be desired yet somehow I'm comfortable with it being nondescript. Just would like some honesty as how my face looks and what I can do, I'll get a body shot later ;)...well an SFW one :P
Quote from: JulieVB on November 21, 2013, 08:39:25 PM
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So what do you guys think of how I'm looking plus might I ask for some suggestions with this hair of mine? It's been almost eleven months since I started on hormones and almost four since a a higher dose. I feel like I'm beginning to show some more progress with my looks though my voice is much left to be desired yet somehow I'm comfortable with it being nondescript. Just would like some honesty as how my face looks and what I can do, I'll get a body shot later ;)...well an SFW one :P
You look very feminine, it's the hair that's keeping it from a definite. You've been on hormones for eleven months... You've been keeping it trimmed, haven't you? Let it grow, cheyla! If you trim it, you're just dragging out the awkward stage. You need to let it grow unchecked for
at least two years before even thinking about coming near it with scissors.
This is me at roughly fourteen months of hair growth. Please excuse the obvious dude face, this is like, the very day after I came out. It's the only picture I could find with moderately straight hair.
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Most everyone looks better with long hair, male or female. That's what I always say.
First real attempt at passing...how do I do?
My biggest issue is my chin, but I guess it could be worse!
Any advice from you lovely people? :)
http://s1366.photobucket.com/user/NatalieT123/media/image201311220003_zps4bf7545a.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
http://s1366.photobucket.com/user/NatalieT123/media/image201311220004_zpsa0801279.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1
Quote from: JulieVB on November 21, 2013, 08:39:25 PM
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So what do you guys think of how I'm looking plus might I ask for some suggestions with this hair of mine? It's been almost eleven months since I started on hormones and almost four since a a higher dose. I feel like I'm beginning to show some more progress with my looks though my voice is much left to be desired yet somehow I'm comfortable with it being nondescript. Just would like some honesty as how my face looks and what I can do, I'll get a body shot later ;)...well an SFW one :P
I think that you have a great face to boot, and when your hair grows out longer, Im sure you will be even more feminine. I see a feminine face already but how is it from the side to. Based on this picture, I believe that you have a better face than me. I think I suffer from having a big nose and a wider than acceptable chin which I can't see in this picture.
Quote from: NatalieT on November 22, 2013, 08:29:53 AM
First real attempt at passing...how do I do?
My biggest issue is my chin, but I guess it could be worse!
Any advice from you lovely people? :)
http://s1366.photobucket.com/user/NatalieT123/media/image201311220003_zps4bf7545a.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
http://s1366.photobucket.com/user/NatalieT123/media/image201311220004_zpsa0801279.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1
I have the same worry about my chin as well. But on HRT, it has reshaped a little and softened up. Not due to the bone changing but from the fat, muscle, and everything changing, as well as the fact that I lost a lot of weight. Just as I have been thinking, and maybe you have thought, that our chins are too wide for a woman's chin. But the reality is yes, maybe it is wider than the average woman's chin, but there are plenty of women out the that have chins like us. Even Marilyn Monroe had a chin that was wider than the average woman's and she was considered one of the most beautiful ladies of her time.
Have you started on HRT or considering HRT? HRT has changed the complexion of my skin, and has made my face not looked so squared, and has help my overall passing level greatly. Have you had any hair removal on your face?? I ask about the hair removal because from the photos, i believe I see a shadow on the chin area which definitely does not look feminine. To me, I cant see any make up on but I believe that if you put foundation on, covered up the blemishes on your face, had eyeliner on and had longer hair, you would do just fine. If this is your face pre-HRT, even more so. :)
I hope this helps.
Thanks guys, definitely growing the hair out. I had to wait because it regrew back in but now it's pretty much evened up! I'm going to grow it should length and be a very happy girl :D
Quote from: NatalieT on November 22, 2013, 08:29:53 AM
First real attempt at passing...how do I do?
My biggest issue is my chin, but I guess it could be worse!
Any advice from you lovely people? :)
http://s1366.photobucket.com/user/NatalieT123/media/image201311220003_zps4bf7545a.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
http://s1366.photobucket.com/user/NatalieT123/media/image201311220004_zpsa0801279.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1
You pass just fine in both. Heck, you'd pass even here http://s1366.photobucket.com/user/NatalieT123/media/image201311170010_zps2ddd3853.jpg.html?sort=3&o=3
if you only got rid of the 5 o'clock shadow and styled your hair differently. Which is what you actually did in the later pics.
No need to worry about your chin, it's nothing unusual or out of the norm for females. The only thing that does stick out is skin-related, namely shaving left-overs and your complexion. I asume you haven't started HRT? HRT and hair removal will remedy those and then you'll be out in the clear.
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I was wondering if anyone had any advice on what I could do in order to help pass appearance wise. No make-up in this photo. I do know my brows are a bit thick and unshaped. I'm having my hair done soon. This pic is a bit over exposed. Oh and I am 3.5 months on low dose E and half a month on spiro.
Smile! :)
Quote from: Kaylee on November 22, 2013, 03:11:16 PM
Smile! :)
o.O that may just be crazy enough to help. Honestly I forget to smile in photos due to all the years of hating my picture being taken. Will def keep it in mind, thank you.
Quote from: Hayley on November 22, 2013, 03:21:51 PM
o.O that may just be crazy enough to help. Honestly I forget to smile in photos due to all the years of hating my picture being taken. Will def keep it in mind, thank you.
I really does help I think, hopefully pretty soon you wont be able to help it! Some of my friends have commented that since stating hrt I and coming out the perpetual frown that used to planted onmy face has been replaced with a grin/smile.
Other than that you already mentioned the other things that spring to mind - hair and eyebrows and whatnot. ;D
You are rather nice looking Hayley and a confident cheery smile would definitely further enhance your already very pretty features :) I think your eyebrows are fine and experimenting with various hair styles can be fun
Quote from: Hayley on November 22, 2013, 02:53:23 PM
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I was wondering if anyone had any advice on what I could do in order to help pass appearance wise. No make-up in this photo. I do know my brows are a bit thick and unshaped. I'm having my hair done soon. This pic is a bit over exposed. Oh and I am 3.5 months on low dose E and half a month on spiro.
Erm, i'm being totally honest here, but i think you look super cute and totally pass in my eyes. Smiling or not. Seriously how does smiling help you pass?
Confidence in one's self and how you carry yourself absolutely
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Cute. :) Yeah maybe a lil make-up and eyebrow management. You'd have no problems passing imo.
Well, you know, smiling 8) It's one of those 'Try it you might like it' kinda deals
But be careful, smiling can be addictive and could lead to feeling happy and confident and even worse, you might start laughing and/or giggling and worst of all you may start having a good time talking and joking around with people and then and then and then... Arrrrrgh you are born into euphoria!!!
Quote from: Kaylee on November 22, 2013, 03:35:48 PM
I really does help I think, hopefully pretty soon you wont be able to help it! Some of my friends have commented that since stating hrt I and coming out the perpetual frown that used to planted onmy face has been replaced with a grin/smile.
Other than that you already mentioned the other things that spring to mind - hair and eyebrows and whatnot. ;D
Quote from: V M on November 22, 2013, 04:26:33 PM
Well, you know, smiling 8) It's one of those 'Try it you might like it' kinda deals
I've had a smile pretty much plastered to my face for almost 4 months now. It's a camera thing, I see one and almost instantly frown or hide. Working on breaking that habit. But thank you so much for the kind words.
Quote from: Hayley on November 22, 2013, 02:53:23 PM
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I was wondering if anyone had any advice on what I could do in order to help pass appearance wise. No make-up in this photo. I do know my brows are a bit thick and unshaped. I'm having my hair done soon. This pic is a bit over exposed. Oh and I am 3.5 months on low dose E and half a month on spiro.
I'm sorry, but I don't think you'll be able to pass as male.
Seriously, you look very good. Certainly better than me.
Well how can we answer if we are not seeing what you really look like, then, if you always smile? :-)
My first thoughts were, smile and brows.
Those you have addressed... Next I am going for....
light contouring and generally - make up.
Also hair. It needs style. There is a difference between men and women wearing long hair.
truly though.... You lucky thing.
Akira x
I am having a girly day at home with my daughter but I'm not sure how I would look after HRT this is me now with no HRT
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Emily.T xx
@Emily The face shape is very good from the front.
Of course you will need to handle hair. Loss of top hair (maybe a wig or some extension, topper, whatever), and the lower hair (beard). Then probably you will be fine. The older we get, the easier become "passing", because we just need to "blend" with women of our age (which are very various in shape-sizes). For a teen is very difficult to pass because girls in their teens are... girls in their teens ;D
Thanks Marina for your comments
Emily.T xx
Quote from: Emily.T on November 22, 2013, 11:23:00 PM
I am having a girly day at home with my daughter but I'm not sure how I would look after HRT this is me now with no HRT
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Emily.T xx
I'd say amen to what Marina offered and add that the eyebrows need some work, there are excellent eyebrow tutorials on the internet that show you how to trim and shape them, you may have to use a pencil to extend them outwards. Then the little crows foot over the nose and corner of the eye can be botoxed or filled with collagen. We all get those, mine was much worse where I caught a grenade fragment in the chops long ago, but it's amazing what can be done to fix these things. You may just decide to mow the hair and get a few nice wigs later, I should do that too, but I'm procrastinating. Go for it Emily, don't let anything discourage you!
Quote from: Ultimus on November 23, 2013, 12:51:54 PM
4 Weeks HRT + Wig
Could I pass one day?
Absolutely Miss pretty face!
You have very pretty features Ultimus, but I think maybe you forgot something... Your smile!!! :)
Hugs
I think you need to tone down on the blush, unless you were going for the china doll look. I'm no expert, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that that's too much.
Also, there's something off about the wig, but I'm not sure what it is...
I do think you could pass with a bit of work, though.
Quote from: Ксениа on November 22, 2013, 10:47:14 AM
I have the same worry about my chin as well. But on HRT, it has reshaped a little and softened up. Not due to the bone changing but from the fat, muscle, and everything changing, as well as the fact that I lost a lot of weight. Just as I have been thinking, and maybe you have thought, that our chins are too wide for a woman's chin. But the reality is yes, maybe it is wider than the average woman's chin, but there are plenty of women out the that have chins like us. Even Marilyn Monroe had a chin that was wider than the average woman's and she was considered one of the most beautiful ladies of her time.
Have you started on HRT or considering HRT? HRT has changed the complexion of my skin, and has made my face not looked so squared, and has help my overall passing level greatly. Have you had any hair removal on your face?? I ask about the hair removal because from the photos, i believe I see a shadow on the chin area which definitely does not look feminine. To me, I cant see any make up on but I believe that if you put foundation on, covered up the blemishes on your face, had eyeliner on and had longer hair, you would do just fine. If this is your face pre-HRT, even more so. :)
I hope this helps.
Thanks for the advice Ksenia!
I haven't yet started HRT so that will hopefully make a few changes to my face, as for foundation, I'm not too keen on using it. I have tried it but I don't really like the feeling on my face. I think if I were to use makeup then it would be most likely just some mascara/eyeliner.
I will hopefully begin some laser hair removal soon too, as I know the stubble really does look odd when you're trying to be pretty xD
I wish I could find this long blonde wig we used to have in my house, so I could see if my face would look more feminine if it were framed with a different style/length.
Thanks for taking the time to comment!
Nat x
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on November 24, 2013, 03:48:26 PM
Your expertise and criticism is welcome :)
This a bit of mixture between pics where I try to achieve something and where I dont really care, so I was interested for a feedback what kind of vibe they are sending...
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The lower one with you in the red shirt/avatar your looking very feminine and cute to me Emily. Sort of remind me of an Aunt I have. Your coming along nicely, I am sure once you get your hair grown out a bit more and styled you shouldn't have much trouble at all being passable IMO.
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on November 24, 2013, 03:48:26 PM
Your expertise and criticism is welcome :)
This a bit of mixture between pics where I try to achieve something and where I dont really care, so I was interested for a feedback what kind of vibe they are sending...
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Your looking lovely Emily! You definitely look very feminine in the face, you really do :)
@ Aina - tnx :). Auntie sounds good (I am not that old... am I? :)).
@ Bardoux - thankie :) Those words do mean a lot to me - although I do not always see that in the mirror - but especially when someone like You says that and I remember Your pics, where You look like a 20-22 year old cis-girl... :)
Lizagirl... the avatar is bigger than the photo :)
it's difficult to say... the picture seems a female portrait, but of course the details are hidden :police:
Quote from: lizagirl on November 25, 2013, 07:36:52 AM
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Sorry I don't have a much larger version to put up.
It looks like the camera resting on something low? Raise it up to chest to eye height or so... it will give you a more true-to-life look in terms of proportions.
Quote from: lizagirl on November 25, 2013, 07:36:52 AM
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Sorry I don't have a much larger version to put up.
Well, regarding your silhouette and the general impression the picture conveys you look just fine. However, without a clearer pic I can't give any more detailed opinion.
You
might or
might not pass, but without a better picture I can't tell for sure. But for what it's worth, I don't think anyone would give a second glance if you showed them this picture.
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on November 25, 2013, 05:47:12 AM
@ Aina - tnx :). Auntie sounds good (I am not that old... am I? :)).
@ Bardoux - thankie :) Those words do mean a lot to me - although I do not always see that in the mirror - but especially when someone like You says that and I remember Your pics, where You look like a 20-22 year old cis-girl... :)
Haha, no you don't look old to me sorry it came off that way, Aunts can be young too! I was more trying to say you have similar features she has!
Okay, I decided to stop being a scurdy-face and post a more clear picture. So here I am, 5 weeks HRT, 'au naturel' (so technically guy-mode). Aside from my nose, doing something about my eyebrows, and lack of make-up, is there anything else that stands out that I could improve upon?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi42.tinypic.com%2F3089yt5.png&hash=a6470f714a753726cfbe663d455deb04bba3de70)
Quote from: Ashey on November 25, 2013, 05:26:31 PM
Okay, I decided to stop being a scurdy-face and post a more clear picture. So here I am, 5 weeks HRT, 'au naturel' (so technically guy-mode). Aside from my nose, doing something about my eyebrows, and lack of make-up, is there anything else that stands out that I could improve upon?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi42.tinypic.com%2F3089yt5.png&hash=a6470f714a753726cfbe663d455deb04bba3de70)
In all honesty I think you pass really well from atleast the neck up!
Quote from: Ashey on November 25, 2013, 05:26:31 PM
Okay, I decided to stop being a scurdy-face and post a more clear picture. So here I am, 5 weeks HRT, 'au naturel' (so technically guy-mode). Aside from my nose, doing something about my eyebrows, and lack of make-up, is there anything else that stands out that I could improve upon?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi42.tinypic.com%2F3089yt5.png&hash=a6470f714a753726cfbe663d455deb04bba3de70)
OK Ashley, I think you're pretty darned cute and girly looking as is, I know I'm a pain-in-the-a$$ Johnny one note, but I wish you young folks would do away with the pierced lips, it's not pretty and becomes a focal point distracting from your good looks. One would think you've been fishing with me and we had an accident.
Quote from: Ashey on November 25, 2013, 05:26:31 PM
Okay, I decided to stop being a scurdy-face and post a more clear picture. So here I am, 5 weeks HRT, 'au naturel' (so technically guy-mode). Aside from my nose, doing something about my eyebrows, and lack of make-up, is there anything else that stands out that I could improve upon?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi42.tinypic.com%2F3089yt5.png&hash=a6470f714a753726cfbe663d455deb04bba3de70)
Well you're already quite cute. You mentioned make-up which I'd include your shadow under that part. So I'd say you pass pretty well and that doesn't look much like boy mode. Your brows look fine to me. Love the lip ring too. Makes miss mine.
Quote from: Shantel on November 25, 2013, 06:01:17 PM
OK Ashley, I think you're pretty darned cute and girly looking as is, I know I'm a pain-in-the-a$$ Johnny one note, but I wish you young folks would do away with the pierced lips, it's not pretty and becomes a focal point distracting from your good looks. One would think you've been fishing with me and we had an accident.
LOL... that's how she got the piercing, I think!!
Ashley, you look beautiful! I agree with thatboyfresh that the neck up looks better... below it's mostly words.
Quote from: Shantel on November 25, 2013, 06:01:17 PM
OK Ashley, I think you're pretty darned cute and girly looking as is, I know I'm a pain-in-the-a$$ Johnny one note, but I wish you young folks would do away with the pierced lips, it's not pretty and becomes a focal point distracting from your good looks. One would think you've been fishing with me and we had an accident.
Personal preferences m'dear. <3
And thanks everyone. ^__^ Sometimes I just need some external positive reinforcement to keep from deluding myself lol. Shadow is especially noticeable because I just had my second laser session a few days ago. I think maybe early next year I'll feel confident to try doing my hair and make-up, after a couple more sessions. :) Oh and it was a face shot so ya'll didn't see mah boobies. xD
Quote from: Ashey on November 25, 2013, 08:36:03 PM
Personal preferences m'dear. <3
And thanks everyone. ^__^ Sometimes I just need some external positive reinforcement to keep from deluding myself lol. Shadow is especially noticeable because I just had my second laser session a few days ago. I think maybe early next year I'll feel confident to try doing my hair and make-up, after a couple more sessions. :) Oh and it was a face shot so ya'll didn't see mah boobies. xD
Ok we wanna see those boobies next time for sure girlfriend! :D ;D
Quote from: kabit on November 25, 2013, 08:23:41 PM
Ashey, you look beautiful! I agree with thatboyfresh that the neck up looks better... below it's mostly words.
...And you might both be glad to hear that there was no
dangling participle present either. ;)
Quote from: sunandmoon on November 25, 2013, 11:48:51 PM
I'm wondering how close I am... I know longer hair would do wonders :P
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPaQQWfZ.jpg&hash=95a8b33ac3cd9be1e4fdd452c9983a1e801e5892)
Oh, it certainly will :). It could wonders by now already and You have potential to be very pretty after starting HRT :)
Quote from: sunandmoon on November 25, 2013, 11:48:51 PM
I'm wondering how close I am... I know longer hair would do wonders :P
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPaQQWfZ.jpg&hash=95a8b33ac3cd9be1e4fdd452c9983a1e801e5892)
You look rather androgynous, longer hair and different styling would certainly slide you over into femininity.
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on November 26, 2013, 12:08:54 AM
Oh, it certainly will :). It could wonders by now already and You have potential to be very pretty after starting HRT :)
I've been on hormones for a year. I started out with a ton of masculine features, people already have a hard time recognizing me. I'm taking things slowly. I've been speeding things up recently.
Quote from: sunandmoon on November 26, 2013, 02:04:39 AM
I've been on hormones for a year. I started out with a ton of masculine features, people already have a hard time recognizing me. I'm taking things slowly. I've been speeding things up recently.
For shame! You should have been growing your hair out during that time!
Quote from: Kristal on November 26, 2013, 03:01:58 AM
For shame! You should have been growing your hair out during that time!
Not necessarily so! I've been on HRT 19 years and keep my hair short, it's not all about hair!
I'm just saying that's a very masculine cut. Going with a pixie or something similar would be better than, say, a Caesar.
Quote from: Kristal on November 26, 2013, 10:37:24 AM
I'm just saying that's a very masculine cut. Going with a pixie or something similar would be better than, say, a Caesar.
I've always wanted to slide from male to androgynous to female without trying (I don't want to look ridiculous and have people stare). I recently went back to "bisexual male, dating a gay guy" because of things I can't talk about because of the rules of the forum. I thought hope for transitioning was gone, so I stopped everything. Got my hair cut (wasn't that long, but whyyyyy did I do that). Thankfully I kept the top of my head at an inch or so and didn't cut it the next time I got it cut, but the sides are a bit shorter. Then dysphoria comes back and I realize I can't not transition. I really don't want to cut it again, so a pixie cut is a no (even if I cut a half inch off, that's a month's growth!) I'd rather wait.
Quote from: sunandmoon on November 26, 2013, 11:39:36 AM
I've always wanted to slide from male to androgynous to female without trying (I don't want to look ridiculous and have people stare). I recently went back to "bisexual male, dating a gay guy" because of things I can't talk about because of the rules of the forum. I thought hope for transitioning was gone, so I stopped everything. Got my hair cut (wasn't that long, but whyyyyy did I do that). Thankfully I kept the top of my head at an inch or so and didn't cut it the next time I got it cut, but the sides are a bit shorter. Then dysphoria comes back and I realize I can't not transition. I really don't want to cut it again, so a pixie cut is a no (even if I cut a half inch off, that's a month's growth!) I'd rather wait.
Ah, I see. I've seen a few threads like that, where girls decide to stop transitioning and cut their hair. It usually doesn't end well. In any case, good luck! Not that you really need it. ;)
I love these threads, and I'm back. I'm not sure if using imgur is the safest bet here, as I haven't really come out to anyone but my closest friends, but I can't think of anything else.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F09Af3JV.jpg&hash=e3012000465c0462840ad169c4720231c071af65) (http://imgur.com/09Af3JV)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FnxAGfAl.jpg&hash=e52f3aa1f9c90b797c790f3572aaf44c8b45c196) (http://imgur.com/nxAGfAl)
Hair is growing back nicely, and I'm building up quite the collection of clothes! Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Pre-HRT, just padding - going to see the Doctor to ask to talk to a therapist next Thursday, anyone here from the U.K. been through that?
Ashey... My thoughts for what they are worth...
Firstly you have many great points like your jaw line which looks great and generally you look like you are doing very well...
Make up, brow bossing, nose bridge,
The picture is a little fuzzy and I can't tell what needs doing on your brows. ... make sure you try and lose the hairs underneath in preference to the ones on top to lift the brow. Look after your hair more and get it femme trimmed, get rid of the piercing - it masculinises you. There are very few piercings that feminise other than the ears. Maybe naval, nose, something tiny in your tragus, but not a lip piercing, visible girl erar rings makes more difference than you would think, oh and... smile.
Good luck with everything x
Quote from: Kristal on November 26, 2013, 11:48:46 AM
Ah, I see. I've seen a few threads like that, where girls decide to stop transitioning and cut their hair. It usually doesn't end well. In any case, good luck! Not that you really need it. ;)
I did it once. Cut it short and donated it. Regretted it a bit but it grew out again pretty quick. Very depressing without mah hair though. :(
Quote from: Artist_Essa on November 26, 2013, 04:03:14 PM
I love these threads, and I'm back. I'm not sure if using imgur is the safest bet here, as I haven't really come out to anyone but my closest friends, but I can't think of anything else.
Hair is growing back nicely, and I'm building up quite the collection of clothes! Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Pre-HRT, just padding - going to see the Doctor to ask to talk to a therapist next Thursday, anyone here from the U.K. been through that?
You'll no doubt transition well, you have nice features to begin with and a nice slim frame to hang some girly attributes on. I like that dress you are wearing. Keep us posted so we can watch yet another amazing transition unfold.
Quote from: Artist_Essa on November 26, 2013, 04:03:14 PM
Pre-HRT, just padding - going to see the Doctor to ask to talk to a therapist next Thursday, anyone here from the U.K. been through that?
The Doctor? Doctor who?
;) (sorry... not from the UK).
You look beautiful already! I agree with Shan... not only is that shirt awesome, but you already look pretty passable! Good luck getting your HRT ♥
Totally passable. I like your dress :)
Hi,
I just joined a few days ago. Not sure I'm able to participate in this discussion, but wondering if I can get any advice. I haven't done any FFS or HRT yet, but planning on a nose job and trachea shave to begin with.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi42.tinypic.com%2F2hrix37.jpg&hash=4616f19eacc133955acbcc5bd4d67363ed3e172e)
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Your hair is beautiful! Oh my gosh!
Thank you so much! I'm actually a little teary at the lovely responses...
The dress was a Primark thing (UK discount clothing shop, kind of like T.J. Maxx? I think that's what Americans call it?) That I fell in love with, totally forgot about the huge union jack on it so remarking I was British was kind of redundant :/
And again, not sure how it is for others but here we see our local Doctor (Or GP, General Practitioner) to discuss health problems before being referred to other specific treatment within the NHS, unless you are rich and on private healthcare. Which I'm not.
By and large, my GP has been rather useless, blaming other problems or trying to prescribe antidepressants (Which I say not to) so I'm not sure how this will go - I've requested to speak to another Doctor so hopefully they will be a little more accommodating and I've never told about my trans feelings. I'll keep everyone posted, but I won't clog this thread up with it. Hopefully it will give me some info to help other British girls dealing with this.
Steph. Such gorgeous hair... you may want to style it differently to hide any sign of a large forehead though. I tend to have about 4 or 5 kirbies or hair grips in just to make sure it sits over my forehead right and hides my widow's peak. A fringe (Do you call it bangs?) may be the best bet.
Shantel. Thank you, I believe you spoke to me before the last thread got locked, you're such a lovely and supportive person <3
Kabit. Thank you <3 Ohmygod if Matt Smith showed up and asked me to be his companion... <Insert dirty joke about sonic screwdriver>
MaddieShirley. You think I could pass? One day I will try...
*EDIT* Kaylee, I got your message, and thank you very much for the help! I can't actually reply or send messages yet, and I'm not sure when I can, so I hope you see this here. Once I can send messages I'll send a reply with how things are going up here in Scotland XxX
:angel: hey all! Well now I am still here In Texas working on my health and hair while I get ready to move back to. California. I am not on hrt or anything yet. Not even any kind of hair removal just yet eithier. But I have been growing my hair and found a new style.thanks.to a school salon here. So here I will post my pic from march 2013 and the ones from November 2013. Tell me honestly whats good and.whats.bad. also please tell me how feminine. I.look now.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-HK5k_tbaL2M/UpZJa_mmJfI/AAAAAAAAAhI/dafZa36Zkts/s400/March2013.JPG?source=androidclient)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WJy3B9WKbyk/UpYy38b_i5I/AAAAAAAAAgY/9QWYgb1me3s/s400/2013-11-26%25252017.46.06-MIX.jpg?source=androidclient)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8kXKLo5nGjo/UpYy1rBKTVI/AAAAAAAAAg8/w2sFe_QYdZ4/s400/2013-11-26%25252017.42.20-MIX.jpg?source=androidclient)
Quote from: Blastradius on November 18, 2013, 10:41:19 PM
Well I guess I will join the fun too. :)
Pre-everything except shopping :P
Ok, so the first one is a few months old and is with makeup and stuff. The second is from last night, when I wasn't presenting female, because I'm not out to anyone yet :( and the full shot is what I had on last night, and I'm not that freakishly tall it was just a bad angle...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1322.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu570%2Fblastradiuss%2FIMG_20130906_155837_zps98eca41a.jpg&hash=3a93da143555a2e1c0e1af0f7a07c6f9fde277cd) (http://s1322.photobucket.com/user/blastradiuss/media/IMG_20130906_155837_zps98eca41a.jpg.html) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1322.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu570%2Fblastradiuss%2FIMG_20131118_035842_zpsc24014b3.jpg&hash=7f89ec49615cc1313b600ec730c7329effebe434) (http://s1322.photobucket.com/user/blastradiuss/media/IMG_20131118_035842_zpsc24014b3.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1322.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu570%2Fblastradiuss%2FIMG_20131118_040409_zpsea5b4584.jpg&hash=0daac527dc99e947200c78a92615df46d382d8ab) (http://s1322.photobucket.com/user/blastradiuss/media/IMG_20131118_040409_zpsea5b4584.jpg.html)
So, what do y'all think, and what can I work on?
You are gong to be a knock out one day! You are already adorable! oh hell I'll be honest I'd hit on you now!
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on November 30, 2013, 05:32:29 AM
Okiess, soo been regrowing my hair for a month now and decided to try styling it today and doing something androgynish..the result, i look like a 12 y/o boy, lol (my high pitched 12 year old GIRLish voice adds to that even more lol ):
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2811%2F11131110515_a90bd11642_o.jpg&hash=66698091108d161481e967a09e2a4a060db873f5)
Also, no makeup besides a little under eye concealer.
You kind of remind me of Natalie Portman.
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on November 30, 2013, 05:32:29 AM
Okiess, soo been regrowing my hair for a month now and decided to try styling it today and doing something androgynish..the result, i look like a 12 y/o boy, lol (my high pitched 12 year old GIRLish voice adds to that even more lol ):
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2811%2F11131110515_a90bd11642_o.jpg&hash=66698091108d161481e967a09e2a4a060db873f5)
Also, no makeup besides a little under eye concealer.
Just peaches and cream as usual sweetheart! :)
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on November 30, 2013, 05:32:29 AM
Okiess, soo been regrowing my hair for a month now and decided to try styling it today and doing something androgynish..the result, i look like a 12 y/o boy, lol (my high pitched 12 year old GIRLish voice adds to that even more lol ):
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2811%2F11131110515_a90bd11642_o.jpg&hash=66698091108d161481e967a09e2a4a060db873f5)
Also, no makeup besides a little under eye concealer.
I prefer this look to your long hair. Simple, natural and so very beautiful.
Quote from: Sandra_Dickinson on November 26, 2013, 04:03:14 PM
I love these threads, and I'm back. I'm not sure if using imgur is the safest bet here, as I haven't really come out to anyone but my closest friends, but I can't think of anything else.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F09Af3JV.jpg&hash=e3012000465c0462840ad169c4720231c071af65) (http://imgur.com/09Af3JV)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FnxAGfAl.jpg&hash=e52f3aa1f9c90b797c790f3572aaf44c8b45c196) (http://imgur.com/nxAGfAl)
Hair is growing back nicely, and I'm building up quite the collection of clothes! Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Pre-HRT, just padding - going to see the Doctor to ask to talk to a therapist next Thursday, anyone here from the U.K. been through that?
Looks to me like you are off to a good start. We have many, many UK members here. You might want to check the therapy board in the Transitioning forum for further information.
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on November 30, 2013, 05:32:29 AM
Okiess, soo been regrowing my hair for a month now and decided to try styling it today and doing something androgynish..the result, i look like a 12 y/o boy, lol (my high pitched 12 year old GIRLish voice adds to that even more lol ):
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2811%2F11131110515_a90bd11642_o.jpg&hash=66698091108d161481e967a09e2a4a060db873f5)
Also, no makeup besides a little under eye concealer.
12-year old boy?? Nope
Androgynous? I can see that, but leaning way over toward the feminine side. Actually like a sharp young professional.
Stephanie/Seth - how do you feel most comfortable? I know it is all confusing right now. And you already have feedback that either in guy mode or girl mode, you have a naturally feminine presentation.
Where is your heart leading you?
Quote from: Shawn Sunshine on November 27, 2013, 02:34:42 PM
:angel: hey all! Well now I am still here In Texas working on my health and hair while I get ready to move back to. California. I am not on hrt or anything yet. Not even any kind of hair removal just yet eithier. But I have been growing my hair and found a new style.thanks.to a school salon here. So here I will post my pic from march 2013 and the ones from November 2013. Tell me honestly whats good and.whats.bad. also please tell me how feminine. I.look now.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-HK5k_tbaL2M/UpZJa_mmJfI/AAAAAAAAAhI/dafZa36Zkts/s400/March2013.JPG?source=androidclient)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WJy3B9WKbyk/UpYy38b_i5I/AAAAAAAAAgY/9QWYgb1me3s/s400/2013-11-26%25252017.46.06-MIX.jpg?source=androidclient)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8kXKLo5nGjo/UpYy1rBKTVI/AAAAAAAAAg8/w2sFe_QYdZ4/s400/2013-11-26%25252017.42.20-MIX.jpg?source=androidclient)
Shawn, I remember some of your earlier San Francisco pictures. You look happier now, but that may be because you appear to be losing weight. Am I wrong?
Quote from: IMsteph on November 27, 2013, 12:18:08 PM
Hi,
I just joined a few days ago. Not sure I'm able to participate in this discussion, but wondering if I can get any advice. I haven't done any FFS or HRT yet, but planning on a nose job and trachea shave to begin with.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Hi, Stephe, and welcome. The thing that jumps right out at me is your smile. And since you are at ground zero, I'd say you already have a feminine vibe going. Best wishes to you.
Quote from: Ashey on November 25, 2013, 05:26:31 PM
Okay, I decided to stop being a scurdy-face and post a more clear picture. So here I am, 5 weeks HRT, 'au naturel' (so technically guy-mode). Aside from my nose, doing something about my eyebrows, and lack of make-up, is there anything else that stands out that I could improve upon?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi42.tinypic.com%2F3089yt5.png&hash=a6470f714a753726cfbe663d455deb04bba3de70)
Ashey, I have three daughters, ages 20 to 27. You fit right in.
I'm not a big fan of lip piercings, but at your age, whatever feels good. Right?
And a little makeup will accentuate your already soft, feminine features.
Okay just over 3 months on HRT now. Pretty much full time as far as wearing only female clothing. I've come out to a few people and customers and such are figuring it out themselves, I'm pretty sure. People see me as "artsy" so a lot just think I'm going through a new fashion kick. One of my employee's had a regular customer ask her if I was transgender, she told the customer I was "having a creative surge recently". Also partly because I've been making a lot of jewelry lately, but thought that was funny. She told me that after I came out to her as transgender.
Anyway ran some errands at several stores and stopped by work for an hour and thought I'd take some pictures and post them here. I took all of them so they are poor quality and the last one I finally had my husband take (so I look a little self conscious lol). Lighting was just so bad, hello winter and short days and long nights ::)
My hair is pinned up in a French twist, it's finally sweeping my shoulders but the sides and front aren't long enough and it's too shaggy looking to wear it down :embarrassed:
Face:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi145.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr227%2FThaliesin%2FHRT%2FIMG_20131130_portrait_zps8b8b51fa.jpg&hash=9340a551c1e9b43dd0af26d885d2b9dfe26b9554)
Profile:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi145.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr227%2FThaliesin%2FHRT%2FIMG_20131130_profile_zpsc6129eb5.jpg&hash=fb46d36c0e850836452794ca64a5790c1adcf296)
Body:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi145.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr227%2FThaliesin%2FHRT%2FIMG_20131130_body_zpsb8112781.jpg&hash=3df73906b4c7e7e5936a33625dea6d66764723b1)
Body Profile:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi145.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr227%2FThaliesin%2FHRT%2FIMG_20131130_bodyprofile_zps1318ca02.jpg&hash=fcef51e4ce22e5950817b8e1eb103ff2cf9ce11f)
Closeup:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi145.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr227%2FThaliesin%2FHRT%2FIMG_20131130_closeup_zps9a4ee035.jpg&hash=2c0830fa89bda410ef3f8e6bfa0d3aec221c183e)
The one my hubby took!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi145.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr227%2FThaliesin%2FHRT%2FIMG_20131130_FULL_zps0d39be07.jpg&hash=b23647f26162e1bb6b5730b164cdb33f191cceff)
Oh wow...I think these are my favorite of your pictures so far. You look amazing.
Quote from: Orange Creamsicle on November 30, 2013, 09:39:11 PM
Oh wow...I think these are my favorite of your pictures so far. You look amazing.
Thank you!! I appreciate the compliment OC :D
Quote from: Harlow on November 30, 2013, 09:34:30 PM
Okay just over 3 months on HRT now. Pretty much full time as far as wearing only female clothing. I've come out to a few people and customers and such are figuring it out themselves, I'm pretty sure. People see me as "artsy" so a lot just think I'm going through a new fashion kick. One of my employee's had a regular customer ask her if I was transgender, she told the customer I was "having a creative surge recently". Also partly because I've been making a lot of jewelry lately, but thought that was funny. She told me that after I came out to her as transgender.
More than "artsy" - I see a trend setter!
Harlow, you're beautiful! :)
Quote from: LearnedHand on November 30, 2013, 09:52:07 PM
Harlow, you're beautiful! :)
Quote from: Jamie D on November 30, 2013, 09:46:50 PM
More that "artsy" - I see a trend setter!
Oh wow!! Thank you so much, you both make me
feel beautiful :-*
Quote from: Harlow on November 30, 2013, 09:34:30 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi145.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr227%2FThaliesin%2FHRT%2FIMG_20131130_portrait_zps8b8b51fa.jpg&hash=9340a551c1e9b43dd0af26d885d2b9dfe26b9554)
I like them all Harlow, but this is my favourite by far, makes you look very classy - a beautiful woman!
Love the blue hair Harlow. It is kind of lame, how we are not born with different hair colors. I would so be down for some green hair with out having to dye.
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on November 30, 2013, 10:28:51 PM
But like I guess...to ME, and this is just ME personally so please no one be offended, I feel like I will always be a boy cuz of the way I was born. Its hard to describe cuz inside I feel very intensely female, but at the same time to me it seems like no matter how pretty I get or what I will still be at least partly a boy. Like...I can add girl to it, but I can't ever take away what you were born as or stop being what you were. Like, even when I see the most gorg and passable transgirls, to me they're girls but at the same time they're also kinda guys (but I totally respect their identity and how they see themselves ofc).
Ehh, I kinda feel the same way. That's why I embrace being a transsexual. :) And partly why I wouldn't go stealth.
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on November 30, 2013, 05:32:29 AM
Okiess, soo been regrowing my hair for a month now and decided to try styling it today and doing something androgynish..the result, i look like a 12 y/o boy, lol (my high pitched 12 year old GIRLish voice adds to that even more lol ):
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2811%2F11131110515_a90bd11642_o.jpg&hash=66698091108d161481e967a09e2a4a060db873f5)
Also, no makeup besides a little under eye concealer.
Yes, you look female and rather pretty :) Time to move on over to the 'Fabulous' thread dear
Quote from: Harlow on November 30, 2013, 09:34:30 PM
Body:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi145.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr227%2FThaliesin%2FHRT%2FIMG_20131130_body_zpsb8112781.jpg&hash=3df73906b4c7e7e5936a33625dea6d66764723b1)
Wow Harlow! I see real progress :)
This one's my favourite.
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on December 01, 2013, 06:14:24 AM
Okiess, well after passing with the short hairstyle when I went out (I credit my voice), I decided to try doing my makeup, and I dunno, sumthin about short hair and makeup looks silly to me, obvs cuz I couldn't keep a straight face, lol:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7416%2F11149146526_cb3f993e9b_o.jpg&hash=c32da68b157e644ad662332620b9b2a4a0d7b339)
I liked the way I looked in the mirror muuch better, but still...not sure if makeup and pixie style hair go well together with my features. Also, I did a smokey eye with light, medium, and chocolate browns, and then liquid liner, mascara, and concealer/foundation. I'm kinda going for a Joan Jett/androgynous look.
I don't like the eye shadow. You only need eyeliner and a bit smudged along your eyelids to look great. I think I know what I don't like about your eyebrows. You've plucked too much from the area above the inside corners of your eyes, making your eyebrows look too far apart. But this may be a personal taste.
probably a never but here we go. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FdYVvrzd.jpg&hash=fa1aab05976d3cda780bc279b8990668058be29e)
and i got bored and decided i felt like wearing some lipstick (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfJPHHB4.jpg&hash=e835729bfa000947c45321819a2585236ca0fde9)
Quote from: Ms Grace on November 30, 2013, 10:49:50 PM
I like them all Harlow, but this is my favourite by far, makes you look very classy - a beautiful woman!
Thanks Grace, I think I'm going to make it my profile pic than :)
Quote from: Just Gwynne! on December 01, 2013, 02:30:43 AM
Wow Harlow! I see real progress :)
This one's my favourite.
Now all I need is some hips Gwynn XD
Quote from: Aina on November 30, 2013, 11:11:13 PM
Love the blue hair Harlow. It is kind of lame, how we are not born with different hair colors. I would so be down for some green hair with out having to dye.
Even if I was born with Blue hair Aina I'd probably still color it something different, I just love switching it up too much. Blue is my favorite color, but I've had so many favorite colors, definitely keeping blue for awhile though.
I want hair like Natasha Lillipore!! :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdata1.whicdn.com%2Fimages%2F62339792%2Fthumb.jpg&hash=14376d8fa964c50c26b19b4c47c007e3b7dc4c9f)
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on November 30, 2013, 10:56:19 PM
Agreees, you've got beaautiful eyes and a very feminine and sophisticated expression, I think your presentation looks very artistic and creative and just plain fab. One small tip, your eyebrows look great buuut if you were to pluck them so the ends closest to your nose are more parrallel with the corners of your eyes it will feminize your face even more :)) just a suggestion!
Thanks Juss, I actually have to fill in the inner corners because even though I'm a natural brunette for whatever reason my inner brows are blonde. I match them with the inner corners of my eyes, I think it's just the angle of the photo that makes it look longer than it is. Good tip though ;)
Quote from: Ashey on November 30, 2013, 11:23:49 PM
Ehh, I kinda feel the same way. That's why I embrace being a transsexual. :) And partly why I wouldn't go stealth.
And yes I feel the same as Ashey. But Juss I had the EXACT same feelings you did, which is why I too stopped HRT and detransitioned. Not that it will happen, but it caught back up to me and now I accept that I'm a trans girl and I actually wouldn't want to be a cis girl, I just feel the LGBTQ community is such a special one and I'm proud to be part of such a large group that is proud to express their differences and get passed & turn whatever (shame, guilt and any other of society's BS) into acceptance and even celebrate them. I'm still nervous to come out to family and such but each day I just know that I'm on the right path and have never been happier. I wish you the best in whatever your choice! I think you should have fun genderbending and just being you, an original one of a kind!
(https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1457478_234904920011875_1314313_n.jpg)
(https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1455189_235148569987510_581853769_n.jpg)
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Went out solo last night, how'd I look?
Quote from: HeatherR on December 01, 2013, 03:48:01 PM
Went out solo last night, how'd I look?
I love your scrunchy nose :P
I like the pics from last night, but I REALLY like your avatar pic! Do you usually wear your glasses?
Only when I'm trying to look smart ;D
Quote from: Henrietta48 on December 01, 2013, 02:32:33 PM
probably a never but here we go. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FdYVvrzd.jpg&hash=fa1aab05976d3cda780bc279b8990668058be29e)
and i got bored and decided i felt like wearing some lipstick (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfJPHHB4.jpg&hash=e835729bfa000947c45321819a2585236ca0fde9)
I've seen girls starting with much more masculine features pass just fine. You don't have much to worry about in my opinion.
Quote from: HeatherR on December 01, 2013, 03:48:01 PM
(https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1457478_234904920011875_1314313_n.jpg)
(https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1455189_235148569987510_581853769_n.jpg)
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I agree with Gwynne. I think the glasses help, but also the way your bangs are in the avatar work better.
Went out solo last night, how'd I look?
Quote from: Jamie D on November 30, 2013, 02:19:34 PM
Hi, Stephe, and welcome. The thing that jumps right out at me is your smile. And since you are at ground zero, I'd say you already have a feminine vibe going. Best wishes to you.
Thanks Jamie! I really like looking through the posts on this thread and seeing the advice, and hearing about the various transitions. It's a very positive experience.
Steph
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on December 01, 2013, 06:14:24 AM
Okiess, well after passing with the short hairstyle when I went out (I credit my voice), I decided to try doing my makeup, and I dunno, sumthin about short hair and makeup looks silly to me, obvs cuz I couldn't keep a straight face, lol:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7416%2F11149146526_cb3f993e9b_o.jpg&hash=c32da68b157e644ad662332620b9b2a4a0d7b339)
I liked the way I looked in the mirror muuch better, but still...not sure if makeup and pixie style hair go well together with my features. Also, I did a smokey eye with light, medium, and chocolate browns, and then liquid liner, mascara, and concealer/foundation. I'm kinda going for a Joan Jett/androgynous look.
I can totally see Joan Jett!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3T_xeoGES8
But you are going to need to wear some badass leathers and scowl a lot.
everyone here is so beautiful! :) wish i was a bit closer to transitioning.....
Quote from: Nicolette on December 01, 2013, 06:39:02 AM
I don't like the eye shadow. You only need eyeliner and a bit smudged along your eyelids to look great. I think I know what I don't like about your eyebrows. You've plucked too much from the area above the inside corners of your eyes, making your eyebrows look too far apart. But this may be a personal taste.
+1
jussmoi4nao- The eyeshadow is too dark above your inner eye. This makes the eye appear sunken in next to the nose. The only place you want to be applying any dark colors above is towards the outside upper part of the eyelid... riiiight here:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIc2FyZ4.png&hash=b4d3637bd956a9ac6a7e23f6923377e5cf984bd4)
(if any at all). Dark eye shadow is going to enhance the look of any brow bossing you may have. You might be happier for an every day look just using a highlight in these areas (mainly the one along the bottom of your brows):
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjAeEKNz.png&hash=31f5d69c30ec51b9bba117668cf274b7f740a85d)
(visual BEFORE blending out, always blend it out)
I use a shimmery white from time to time under the arch of each brow if I want to instantly give the eyes a little pop. I usually don't use any dark shadow at all unless I'm going out at night- and even then I use it sparingly.
And as always, "less is more" is the name of the game for everyday looks.
Obviously you pass... ;) +1 to VM, head over to the fabulous thread nao plz kthx and I would love to see what you do with the eye shadow!
Here is an ogre that has the misfortune of having a female identity.
6'3" 425 lbs. Pre-everything. (My eyebrows are plucked a bit.)
Obviously, losing weight is a massive priority, but otherwise, can this ugly mug work?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7310%2F11171073826_7502059405_n.jpg&hash=67fa7e822e82298a1dee973386f7142d3555faf5)
Quote from: particle on December 02, 2013, 07:02:10 AM
Here is an ogre that has the misfortune of having a female identity.
6'3" 425 lbs. Pre-everything. (My eyebrows are plucked a bit.)
Obviously, losing weight is a massive priority, but otherwise, can this ugly mug work?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7310%2F11171073826_7502059405_n.jpg&hash=67fa7e822e82298a1dee973386f7142d3555faf5)
If you lost the weight, yeah! If you didn't... eh, maybe... It's kind of hard to tell when you're that deep into guy mode. You don't look like you have any particularly chiseled features, so we'll just have to see.
*sigh* I was hoping to hear, "No, you are a hideous beast, and an embarrasment to the trangendered community!"
Quote from: particle on December 02, 2013, 08:28:30 AM
*sigh* I was hoping to hear, "No, you are a hideous beast, and an embarrasment to the trangendered community!"
No you're not! There are many here who have felt that way about themselves who have taken control of their lives, lost tons of weight and transformed into very passable women, some even beautiful and now have a wonderful sense of self esteem because of it. It's all about determination and ridding one's self of ever having the notion "Can't," a good word to delete from one's vocabulary right up front. Best wishes!
Sorry I'm searching for someone to tell me no, be a man. I can't make myself stop obsessing about transition
Quote from: particle on December 02, 2013, 08:28:30 AM
*sigh* I was hoping to hear, "No, you are a hideous beast, and an embarrasment to the trangendered community!"
No, infact I know a ciswoman who looks very much like you.
Quote from: particle on December 02, 2013, 10:28:47 AM
Sorry I'm searching for someone to tell me no, be a man. I can't make myself stop obsessing about transition
We can spend all day telling you to be a man, but it won't help... It never does... :(
Sorry for dumping. I'm just having full scale panic.
Quote from: particle on December 02, 2013, 10:37:50 AM
Sorry for dumping. I'm just having full scale panic.
You're not alone, everyone has panic attacks and dumps here, it's what we do! Some of us are able to help clean up the dumps and get the dumpees pointed in the right direction. :D
Quote from: particle on December 02, 2013, 10:28:47 AM
Sorry I'm searching for someone to tell me no, be a man. I can't make myself stop obsessing about transition
For me, these people were
too easy to find, especially at first!!
Nothing can make you what you're not. Find yourself and be yourself; that's currently my major source of happiness right now!
The changes weight loss and HRT can make are astounding, sometimes!
Staring at that picture I see my older (gorgeous) sisters eyes and cheekbones attached to shrek's lower face.
Quote from: particle on December 02, 2013, 11:21:37 AM
Staring at that picture I see my older (gorgeous) sisters eyes and cheekbones attached to shrek's lower face.
It's a nice canvas to work from:)
QuoteYou look good sug, but your foundation is just the teensiest bit too dark and also, just a suggestion but you should apply to your forehead as well for a more even look.
I have to keep searching, the kind I like (Miss Sporty) has several tones, with 001 looking like clown white on me and 002 being the kind I'm wearing. It can be so hard to find a foundation that matches that I'm just going to bulk buy a case of it when I do! And I didn't think anyone noticed my forehead lol, thank you for much for the advice <3
Quote from: particle on December 02, 2013, 08:28:30 AM
*sigh* I was hoping to hear, "No, you are a hideous beast, and an embarrasment to the trangendered community!"
Never!! Just look at the Before & After topic and see the incredible changes. I covered up your lower face (the part you call "Shrek" - it's not BTW) and did see some lovely eyes.
We all start some place. You already know what Step 1. is going to be - weight loss - if only for your health going forward.
Quote from: Jamie D on December 02, 2013, 02:42:40 PM
(the part you call "Shrek" - it's not BTW)
It's the lighting, this pic is better
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bizarbin.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F12%2FReal-Shrek32.jpg&hash=c2c13ac9caf5f17d7710a51542d465b596962979)
Quote from: Jamie D on December 02, 2013, 02:42:40 PM
Never!! Just look at the Before & After topic and see the incredible changes. I covered up your lower face (the part you call "Shrek" - it's not BTW) and did see some lovely eyes.
We all start some place. You already know what Step 1. is going to be - weight loss - if only for your health going forward.
Referencing the above comment in reply to particle:
Whether or not weight loss is important to you or needed, HRT will likely have an effect on the aforementioned 'bulk' on your face. One of my goals through HRT is to thin-out the skin/muscle/fat structure around my jawline and mouth. I wasn't able to see significant evidence of change in the mirror, but today a neighbor asked me if I had lost weight which they judged by my face. In fact my weight has actually gone UP about 2-3 pounds since starting HRT and since they last saw me. Obviously something has changed in my face and I've missed it. I am very thin but the change over just 2.5 months (just short of three weeks after adding estrogen) is already being noticed.
Ogres come in female form too but you needn't be so hard on yourself. Beauty is not a measure of femininity, whether or not we're talking about what's inside your head. I'm sure you'll do fine, especially if HRT positively affects your mind.
so this is me at about three months hrt. let me know what you think.
(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1383353_1382920641942782_174759218_n.jpg)
Great start, JennyH! Your skin looks very smooth and soft.
How far along are you on facial hair removal? And work on the eyebrows. But yeah, you're on your way! :)
Quote from: particle on December 02, 2013, 03:00:04 PM
It's the lighting, this pic is better
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bizarbin.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F12%2FReal-Shrek32.jpg&hash=c2c13ac9caf5f17d7710a51542d465b596962979)
I post pictures of Marty Feldman and claim they are me! I know those tricks very well.
Thank you. I haven't had any hair removal yet and since I took this picture I have plucked my eyebrows so they are much thinner and have a slight arch.
just wondering if im getting close enough to start my RLE, ive been on hrt for 8 months, this is me no makeup and my shoulders and arms are still gargantuan, i need tips on makeup i think
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi930.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad144%2Finfinitepure%2F20131203_130747.jpg&hash=843ffe0168c833e55b59c0ef9eb019a838d9dd94) (http://s930.photobucket.com/user/infinitepure/media/20131203_130747.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi930.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad144%2Finfinitepure%2FUntitled.jpg&hash=b56a05ec181ce6e7c6cb56d70b96f05047dc998f) (http://s930.photobucket.com/user/infinitepure/media/Untitled.jpg.html)
Quote from: kiaraja on December 03, 2013, 05:29:07 PM
just wondering if im getting close enough to start my RLE, ive been on hrt for 8 months, this is me no makeup and my shoulders and arms are still gargantuan, i need tips on makeup i think
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi930.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad144%2Finfinitepure%2F20131203_130747.jpg&hash=843ffe0168c833e55b59c0ef9eb019a838d9dd94) (http://s930.photobucket.com/user/infinitepure/media/20131203_130747.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi930.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad144%2Finfinitepure%2FUntitled.jpg&hash=b56a05ec181ce6e7c6cb56d70b96f05047dc998f) (http://s930.photobucket.com/user/infinitepure/media/Untitled.jpg.html)
Absolutely, you're looking really good hon!
Kiaraja- a lot can be done by training your shoulders in a more back position like most cis females hold them. Stand back straight, push your shoulders forward, then all the way up, then rotate then all the way back. This should make a hollow in your back in between your shoulder blades and give you the posture of a goddess.
Also, second pic = HOTTIE ALERT! :)
Quote from: kiaraja on December 03, 2013, 05:29:07 PM
just wondering if im getting close enough to start my RLE, ive been on hrt for 8 months, this is me no makeup and my shoulders and arms are still gargantuan, i need tips on makeup i think
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi930.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad144%2Finfinitepure%2F20131203_130747.jpg&hash=843ffe0168c833e55b59c0ef9eb019a838d9dd94) (http://s930.photobucket.com/user/infinitepure/media/20131203_130747.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi930.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad144%2Finfinitepure%2FUntitled.jpg&hash=b56a05ec181ce6e7c6cb56d70b96f05047dc998f) (http://s930.photobucket.com/user/infinitepure/media/Untitled.jpg.html)
My friend came in while I was looking at your picture and said "Woah, she's hot. Who is she?" So I'd guess you pass.
Quote from: Jennygirl on December 03, 2013, 06:31:47 PM
Kiaraja- a lot can be done by training your shoulders in a more back position like most cis females hold them. Stand back straight, push your shoulders forward, then all the way up, then rotate then all the way back. This should make a hollow in your back in between your shoulder blades and give you the posture of a goddess.
I'm actually quite comfortable standing like that, and with my hips rotated back. :)
Quote from: kiaraja on December 03, 2013, 05:29:07 PM
just wondering if im getting close enough to start my RLE, ive been on hrt for 8 months, this is me no makeup and my shoulders and arms are still gargantuan, i need tips on makeup i think
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi930.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad144%2Finfinitepure%2F20131203_130747.jpg&hash=843ffe0168c833e55b59c0ef9eb019a838d9dd94) (http://s930.photobucket.com/user/infinitepure/media/20131203_130747.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi930.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad144%2Finfinitepure%2FUntitled.jpg&hash=b56a05ec181ce6e7c6cb56d70b96f05047dc998f) (http://s930.photobucket.com/user/infinitepure/media/Untitled.jpg.html)
You're beautiful. I'm fairly certain you already make some girls jealous.
Quote from: Jennygirl on December 03, 2013, 06:31:47 PM
Kiaraja- a lot can be done by training your shoulders in a more back position like most cis females hold them. Stand back straight, push your shoulders forward, then all the way up, then rotate then all the way back. This should make a hollow in your back in between your shoulder blades and give you the posture of a goddess.
Also, second pic = HOTTIE ALERT! :)
thanks for the tip, ive tried that technique but it just seems to unnatural atm, practice i guess,
and thnx for all the positive words everyone, i finally feel like im coming out on the pretty side of a long ugly puberty at 28 years old
Quote from: Henrietta48 on December 01, 2013, 02:32:33 PM
probably a never but here we go. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FdYVvrzd.jpg&hash=fa1aab05976d3cda780bc279b8990668058be29e)
Not never, just not yet. Takes time and practice. I don't see anything particularly impossible to overcome though.
Quote from: kiaraja on December 03, 2013, 08:56:19 PM
thanks for the tip, ive tried that technique but it just seems to unnatural atm, practice i guess,
and thnx for all the positive words everyone, i finally feel like im coming out on the pretty side of a long ugly puberty at 28 years old
Oh jeez, you should be proud. You look amazing. I'm sure you get "miss'd" all day long.
Quote from: JennyH on December 02, 2013, 08:37:46 PM
so this is me at about three months hrt. let me know what you think.
(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1383353_1382920641942782_174759218_n.jpg)
Great cheek bones! Your hair looks great, as do your eyes, they're beautiful. Your eyebrows could do with some taming though! :)
Hard to tell from the pic but your nose seems rather masculine as does your chin. HRT and weight changes might change some of that so don't despair but you may need to learn a make-up trick or two to help it seem a bit slimmer. Three months is early though, see how things progress, I'm sure you'll do great! :D
Quote from: Jennygirl on December 03, 2013, 06:31:47 PM
Kiaraja- a lot can be done by training your shoulders in a more back position like most cis females hold them. Stand back straight, push your shoulders forward, then all the way up, then rotate then all the way back. This should make a hollow in your back in between your shoulder blades and give you the posture of a goddess.
Also, second pic = HOTTIE ALERT! :)
I agree with Jenny on both counts!! :D
Quote from: kiaraja on December 03, 2013, 05:29:07 PM
just wondering if im getting close enough to start my RLE, ive been on hrt for 8 months, this is me no makeup and my shoulders and arms are still gargantuan, i need tips on makeup i think
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi930.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad144%2Finfinitepure%2F20131203_130747.jpg&hash=843ffe0168c833e55b59c0ef9eb019a838d9dd94) (http://s930.photobucket.com/user/infinitepure/media/20131203_130747.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi930.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad144%2Finfinitepure%2FUntitled.jpg&hash=b56a05ec181ce6e7c6cb56d70b96f05047dc998f) (http://s930.photobucket.com/user/infinitepure/media/Untitled.jpg.html)
You look quite feminine. However, you are conflating the two issues. Physically passing is just one aspect of the RLE.
You are quite correct to think about other aspects of being a woman. Good luck to you. :)
P.S. - Your arms don't look "gargantuan," but even if they did, that would not be a "tell." Look at some pictures of female athletes, like swimmers! Big arms and shoulders. Still feminine.
Quote from: Jennygirl on December 03, 2013, 06:31:47 PM
Kiaraja- a lot can be done by training your shoulders in a more back position like most cis females hold them. Stand back straight, push your shoulders forward, then all the way up, then rotate then all the way back. This should make a hollow in your back in between your shoulder blades and give you the posture of a goddess.
Wow, this is immensely helpful, I've always just pulled them in. With tips like this it's no wonder you always look like one in your pictures. ^^
Quote from: kiaraja on December 03, 2013, 05:29:07 PM
just wondering if im getting close enough to start my RLE, ive been on hrt for 8 months, this is me no makeup and my shoulders and arms are still gargantuan, i need tips on makeup i think
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Your arms and shoulders are gargantuan? No, really? Well, You should see mine - Yours are very slim and slender in comparison! And I am totally jealous of Your bewbs :). And You look totally gorgeous even without any makeup! :)
Thank you LittleV! Awww you just made my day! :)
So I put on "full" make up for the first time today, and took a few pictures with a crummy cheapo wig badly tossed onto my on my head to hide my thin man hair(:() Keep in mind I have the make up applying skills and knowledge of a pre teen girl (i.e. I don't know what I'm doing!) :( lol
I'm very early in transition, pre-hrt. I've done two sessions of face laser hair removal, plucked my eyebrows.
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Of course, an obligatory "angled" picture, lol:
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Ah!
Oh this is terrifying. This is the first time anyone beside me has seen me trying to be in me mode (i.e., not in boy mode lol).
@Thylacin
Your facial features are fantastic, especially your chin. That last photo is just gorgeous and completely natural.
You are going to knock em dead girl! :o
For Pre-HRT...Thylacin you look amazing!
Quote from: Thylacin on December 05, 2013, 03:15:01 PM
So I put on "full" make up for the first time today, and took a few pictures with a crummy cheapo wig badly tossed onto my on my head to hide my thin man hair(:() Keep in mind I have the make up applying skills and knowledge of a pre teen girl (i.e. I don't know what I'm doing!) :( lol
I'm very early in transition, pre-hrt. I've done two sessions of face laser hair removal, plucked my eyebrows.
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Of course, an obligatory "angled" picture, lol:
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Ah!
Oh this is terrifying. This is the first time anyone beside me has seen me trying to be in me mode (i.e., not in boy mode lol).
wow im jealous of your cheeks, there so cute, you have such a naturally accepting female face, and that is without hormones!!!? after a year on hrt i wouldn't doubt if you ever get clocked, just grow your hair out, the wig is your only tell imo
Quote from: Thylacin on December 05, 2013, 03:15:01 PM
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Oh my, what a beautiful woman you already are Thylacin! All of your features are exceptional to begin with, lovely smile and beautiful eyes and those glasses work so well for you too dear.
Ok, my turn.
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This is the lazy-staying-at-home me with only a touch of foundation to hide redness on my upper lip from electrolysis ( three weeks ago ). No other make up, and haven't done much with hair etc. I'm at 3.5 months effective HRT ( 8.5 real months ), T levels were still normal male range prior to 3.5 months ago.
Quote from: kiaraja on December 05, 2013, 04:54:53 PM
wow im jealous of your cheeks, there so cute, you have such a naturally accepting female face, and that is without hormones!!!? after a year on hrt i wouldn't doubt if you ever get clocked, just grow your hair out, the wig is your only tell imo
Thanks so much :D
Yeah, the wig was a cheap one off amazon, just to play around with. My natural hair is thinning on top, I'm trying to get it to thicken with minoxidil (and hopefully HRT will help, starting in about a month! Once I get one last personal thing taken care of). It sucks that my natural hair won't do. I really wish it did.
Here's another of me, in boy mode, bleh, just for comparison and to show my natural hair (yeah, it's bad :().
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Quote from: SammyRose on December 05, 2013, 06:58:30 PM
Ok, my turn.
This is the lazy-staying-at-home me with only a touch of foundation to hide redness on my upper lip from electrolysis ( three weeks ago ). No other make up, and haven't done much with hair etc. I'm at 3.5 months effective HRT ( 8.5 real months ), T levels were still normal male range prior to 3.5 months ago.
You look great! Totally pass. Your face has a nice feminine shape.
Quote from: Shantel on December 05, 2013, 06:45:50 PM
Oh my, what a beautiful woman you already are Thylacin! All of your features are exceptional to begin with, lovely smile and beautiful eyes and those glasses work so well for you too dear.
:icon_mrhappy:
Thanks so much! It's so great to hear that. I've gone so long feeling gross about my appearance. Finally being open about who I am has done so much for me.
Quote from: SammyRose on December 05, 2013, 03:36:53 PM
@Thylacin
Your facial features are fantastic, especially your chin. That last photo is just gorgeous and completely natural.
You are going to knock em dead girl! :o
Thanks :D
My chin is one thing I worry about needing FFS for (along with my nose, brow, and jawline).
I look forward to seeing the changes I get after a few years on HRT. I'm hoping for the best. Ready for the worst, and these responses to my pictures make me feel better about not worrying too much about what I end up getting out of HRT, well, except for the rest of my body, lol.
Quote from: Thylacin on December 05, 2013, 08:32:56 PM
Thanks so much :D
Yeah, the wig was a cheap one off amazon, just to play around with. My natural hair is thinning on top, I'm trying to get it to thicken with minoxidil (and hopefully HRT will help, starting in about a month! Once I get one last personal thing taken care of). It sucks that my natural hair won't do. I really wish it did.
Here's another of me, in boy mode, bleh, just for comparison and to show my natural hair (yeah, it's bad :().
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Hair lost from male pattern baldness and/or genetic pre-disposition will not come back to any satisfactory extent, however it's nothing to obsess over. Eventually a few nice wigs will do the trick, there are so many of us in the same boat, it has a lot to do with why I'm wearing a hat in my avatar. You have a lot of nice features to be thankful for, yes eventually you may need a little FFS but don't we all? You'll do well Thylacin!
Thylacin: I think you've already got quite a natural head-start and are very pretty! :) For passing? I would say yes. ...Until someone mentioned it I didn't quite realize your long hair was a wig - though IMHO something with longer/messier bangs might help a little bit. That smile of yours in you-mode, and lack of in boy-mode: Keep up that smile, it's super cute and I can tell is heartfelt. Girls like you make me wish I needed glasses, they're adorable!
SammyRose: If I were you I'd not worry about passing! You are beautiful. :) Side note, your avatar: Omg, I love Belldandy to death! :D
Quote from: SammyRose on December 05, 2013, 06:58:30 PM
Ok, my turn.
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This is the lazy-staying-at-home me with only a touch of foundation to hide redness on my upper lip from electrolysis ( three weeks ago ). No other make up, and haven't done much with hair etc. I'm at 3.5 months effective HRT ( 8.5 real months ), T levels were still normal male range prior to 3.5 months ago.
SammyRose,
You could pass for any cis woman on her quick trip to get the kids off to school sans makeup. You might want to start using some good under-eye moisturizing cream before bed at night and resist rubbing your eyes. If you're not doing a lot of alcoholic beverages that skin will eventually respond and tighten back up. Basically you are off to a nice start girlfriend! :)
Thylacin,
IMHO, you should wait to see how well you're doing after a couple of years of HRT, especially as I've seen chins soften SIGNIFICANTLY. Your brow bossing doesn't seem excessive, either, based on the closeups. I personally think you'll do VERY well. For pre-HRT, you're actually outstanding. I can pretty safely say that you would pass easily right now without much more than a better wig or straightening/brushing out your existing wig. You'd need to watch your mannerisms and how you carry yourself (posture, walking gait, etc.), but I can't anticipate anyone giving you hassles based on these pictures. You could least get out and be "you" and go shopping, to the movies, or anything else where close personal contact isn't essential.
Carol
@Thylacin - I agree with Carol. Also, without my wig (snif) I'm in the same boat as you. I'm using minoxidil with some pretty hopeful and promising results in combo with the HRT, so stay tuned. If you had told us it was a wig I would never have guesses, I love bangs and although I'm not a fan of the way you're wearing them in those pics it is a common style amongst some women and as such looked totally normal.
Quote from: SammyRose on December 05, 2013, 06:58:30 PM
Ok, my turn.
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This is the lazy-staying-at-home me with only a touch of foundation to hide redness on my upper lip from electrolysis ( three weeks ago ). No other make up, and haven't done much with hair etc. I'm at 3.5 months effective HRT ( 8.5 real months ), T levels were still normal male range prior to 3.5 months ago.
You look completely like a cis woman to me! Great hair too!
Quote from: Thylacin on December 05, 2013, 03:15:01 PM
So I put on "full" make up for the first time today, and took a few pictures with a crummy cheapo wig badly tossed onto my on my head to hide my thin man hair(:() Keep in mind I have the make up applying skills and knowledge of a pre teen girl (i.e. I don't know what I'm doing!) :( lol
I'm very early in transition, pre-hrt. I've done two sessions of face laser hair removal, plucked my eyebrows.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi963.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae114%2FThysimages%2F07b_zpsf93314da.jpg&hash=bc5d9efec76c14ce9006518f617c89932600d2f0) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi963.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae114%2FThysimages%2F02b_zps0f85c673.jpg&hash=2b655bdddbe0a0caa48f8a3662bb2d4564d64c70) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi963.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae114%2FThysimages%2F05b_zpsc4b466b4.jpg&hash=bbb8df81346b3631a036c1877557b7e4ba609505)
Of course, an obligatory "angled" picture, lol:
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Ah!
Oh this is terrifying. This is the first time anyone beside me has seen me trying to be in me mode (i.e., not in boy mode lol).
Well, even with your self-critical teenage girl's make-up skills or not you seem to do just fine! :)
You have a very nice and gentle face that's just dying for some HRT. Let's face it, you're going to be stunning when you get it started. It will smooth out the remaining few superficial vestiges of testosterone influence on your face and then you will be a flawless beauty. And I mean that, you already look 100% female.
Plus, you're very lucky you wear that haircut so nicely and there probably a dozen more styles that you could try and pull of just as easily.
Wish you the very best in your transition.
Love and Hugs,
Vanya.
Quote from: Ms Grace on December 06, 2013, 01:13:37 PM
@Thylacin - I agree with Carol. Also, without my wig (snif) I'm in the same boat as you. I'm using minoxidil with some pretty hopeful and promising results in combo with the HRT, so stay tuned. If you had told us it was a wig I would never have guesses, I love bangs and although I'm not a fan of the way you're wearing them in those pics it is a common style amongst some women and as such looked totally normal.
You look completely like a cis woman to me! Great hair too!
Thanks. I kinda threw the wig on without arranging it, since I originally had no intentions for the pictures other than for myself. What style of bangs do you like? I have very little (i.e. no) knowledge of how to wear hair, hehe, suggestions would be nice!
Hello girls!
Sorry to be posting again (I already posted here around one month ago, but I was in boy mode). I am on HRT for more than 2 months now and this is the first time I try seriously a girl mode, but it is just a beta version....
And yes, I don't have a clue about making a good make-up, as can be noticed! lol
But I'd appreciate a few sincere opinions. How bad am I for a "beta version"? :)
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Quote from: Thylacin on December 06, 2013, 04:43:17 PM
Thanks. I kinda threw the wig on without arranging it, since I originally had no intentions for the pictures other than for myself. What style of bangs do you like? I have very little (i.e. no) knowledge of how to wear hair, hehe, suggestions would be nice!
Think Uma Thurman in Pulp Fiction! Wow, I love that look! Basically the fringe is closer to the eyebrows and the hair at the side covers the ears.
I've been on hormones for 14 months now... I couldn't get a wig for the longest, so I've been reluctant to post here. I finally got one day before yesterday and had my wife help me with some make up.
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Quote from: Thylacin on December 05, 2013, 08:39:53 PM
My chin is one thing I worry about needing FFS for (along with my nose, brow, and jawline).
We are the worst critics of ourselves. I do not see any issues with Your chin, nose and jawline, in fact, they are perfect :). In a much better shape than the one from which I started and I dont see those parts as issues for me now. Your brow is kinda same as mine - it gets worse under certain lighting, yes? Well, HRT smoothens and thins out Your skin, so You can expect quite a decrease there, plus Your facial muscles (and there are many in the brow area btw) will melt too. And I have seen many many cis-women who have worse brow than we do and they do not pay any attention to that - they do not need that surgery for self-affirmation.
@SammyRose - wow, You basically pass already now, lol :)
@phillyside - I know one cis-girl who looks exactly like You in Your first picture. Smiling helps too (yeah, I know that is considered now an oppressive remark to ask someone to smile :) ).
@Natalia - two months on hormones is pretty much nothing (even 6-7 months are nothing btw). I think You have a good start and will get there, but You might consider rhinoplasty at some time within next two years (me too, btw).
Quote from: phillyside on December 07, 2013, 08:41:09 PM
I've been on hormones for 14 months now... I couldn't get a wig for the longest, so I've been reluctant to post here. I finally got one day before yesterday and had my wife help me with some make up.
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You look like my friend Jillian. Except she has longer hair.
Catherine Tate!
It's been driving me nuts. Thylacin, in the wig you are reminding me of a younger looking Catherine Tate.
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on December 08, 2013, 01:54:09 AM
@Natalia - two months on hormones is pretty much nothing (even 6-7 months are nothing btw). I think You have a good start and will get there, but You might consider rhinoplasty at some time within next two years (me too, btw).
When I was a little kid I fell and broke my nose, but I don't remember it. My mother didn't want the doctor to fix my nose because it would be very painfull...and I ended with a nose right-turned...She should have allowed the doctor to fix it, because I would not remember. Well, anyway, I think my nose would still be bad even if I did not fall that day. Luckily there is FFS available, I only need the money now lol
Quote from: Natalia on December 08, 2013, 08:02:29 AM
When I was a little kid I fell and broke my nose, but I don't remember it. My mother didn't want the doctor to fix my nose because it would be very painfull...and I ended with a nose right-turned...She should have allowed the doctor to fix it, because I would not remember. Well, anyway, I think my nose would still be bad even if I did not fall that day. Luckily there is FFS available, I only need the money now lol
Noses are such a big thing too! They sit right there in the middle of one's face! Mine has a deviated septum, and I've always noticed it a ton. I don't know how obvious it is, but if I'm looked at straight on it's definitely noticeable. Thing is, everyone has differently shaped noses, even cis women. I think eyebrows/hair/make up can be bigger factors in passing most of the time?
I really wish all trans care was covered by insurance. I think progress is on its way regarding that, but it's probably a ways off. Uhg. Health insurance in the US is a mess in so many other ways, I'm afraid trans care will be one of the last things to be resolved.
Quote from: Natalia on December 08, 2013, 08:02:29 AM
When I was a little kid I fell and broke my nose, but I don't remember it. My mother didn't want the doctor to fix my nose because it would be very painfull...and I ended with a nose right-turned...She should have allowed the doctor to fix it, because I would not remember. Well, anyway, I think my nose would still be bad even if I did not fall that day. Luckily there is FFS available, I only need the money now lol
Natalia,
I was thinking what Emily said, plus you'll probably need a brow lift to raise those nice eyebrows and perhaps a little brow bossing work at the same time. You have pretty big eyes and a nice shaped face, chin and jawline though. Stick with it you're looking good!
Quote from: particle on December 08, 2013, 04:52:04 AM
Catherine Tate!
It's been driving me nuts. Thylacin, in the wig you are reminding me of a younger looking Catherine Tate.
Hehe, thank you.
Went out the other night. Had a blast :)
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What do you think?
Quote from: Just Gwynne! on December 08, 2013, 02:42:34 PM
Went out the other night. Had a blast :)
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What do you think?
I think you look wonderful! Where did you go and what did you do?? :D
Quote from: Just Gwynne! on December 08, 2013, 02:42:34 PM
Went out the other night. Had a blast :)
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What do you think?
Looking great Gwynne! I just love your bangs!
Quote from: kabit on December 08, 2013, 02:43:47 PM
I think you look wonderful! Where did you go and what did you do?? :D
Went out with my sister in Toronto. We went for a walk, did some thrift store shopping, and then met up with some of her friends. They were very friendly and open. Everyone gendered me correctly and was very positive.
I don't know if I "passed" per se, but I felt really comfortable and had a great time. :)
Quote from: Shaina on December 08, 2013, 02:48:47 PM
Looking great Gwynne! I just love your bangs!
Shy, you are too sweet :P
@emily
Thank you for saying I looked like a woman you know... It really meant a lot to hear that. As for the smiles, I have a hard time smiling for the camera cause I think I look goofy, but maybe later I'll try to put one with a smile.
@Kristal
Thank you as well.
Quote from: EstroGwynne on December 08, 2013, 02:56:08 PM
Went out with my sister in Toronto. We went for a walk, did some thrift store shopping, and then met up with some of her friends. They were very friendly and open. Everyone gendered me correctly and was very positive.
I don't know if I "passed" per se, but I felt really comfortable and had a great time. :)
I'm POSITIVE you did better than I did!! I went out today and definitely didn't pass :D
As long as nobody I know (especially from work) saw me..... ;)
I think you all look so beutiful and commend you for your courage in posting your photos up on this thread. I think you all pass very nicely. A few of you are like myself, very femminine despite being pre hrt. Me, though I am small featured (5-5, 120 lb's small oval face, good hips, and all legs and arms [long legs, long arms for my height]) being pre hrt I'm just not that confident enough yet with myself to post here........yet. In fact, I've just gotten over a rather lengthy bout of depression which is why I've been absent from the forum for a long time. The lack of a Gender Specialist in my area set me off on my journey of no-hope gloom.
I have however found an Endochronologist close enough to be within reach, and though I haven't contacted his office yet I'm hoping he will treat a Transgender woman. I'm 50-is and held off for so long on hrt because of family, and now that they are gone I want to start hrt as soon as possible. I'm confident I'll bloom because of my already effemminate features. My family practitioner has been no help -wouldn't even prescribe me Finasteride to help me keep the hair I have left, let alone avodart. Ah but he's retiring so as of the 1st of the year I'll have a new doctor that, again, I'm hoping will be a little more understanding. I've lived miserable for so long. I deserve to be happy. These slender hopes are the only thing keeping me together right now. That and seeing and reading about everyone's story and transitions here has pulled me out of this last one. For that I thank you all. ;)
Allyda
Quote from: Allyda on December 08, 2013, 08:00:05 PM
I think you all look so beutiful and commend you for your courage in posting your photos up on this thread. I think you all pass very nicely. A few of you are like myself, very femminine despite being pre hrt. Me, though I am small featured (5-5, 120 lb's small oval face, good hips, and all legs and arms [long legs, long arms for my height]) being pre hrt I'm just not that confident enough yet with myself to post here........yet. In fact, I've just gotten over a rather lengthy bout of depression which is why I've been absent from the forum for a long time. The lack of a Gender Specialist in my area set me off on my journey of no-hope gloom.
I have however found an Endochronologist close enough to be within reach, and though I haven't contacted his office yet I'm hoping he will treat a Transgender woman. I'm 50-is and held off for so long on hrt because of family, and now that they are gone I want to start hrt as soon as possible. I'm confident I'll bloom because of my already effemminate features. My family practitioner has been no help -wouldn't even prescribe me Finasteride to help me keep the hair I have left, let alone avodart. Ah but he's retiring so as of the 1st of the year I'll have a new doctor that, again, I'm hoping will be a little more understanding. I've lived miserable for so long. I deserve to be happy. These slender hopes are the only thing keeping me together right now. That and seeing and reading about everyone's story and transitions here has pulled me out of this last one. For that I thank you all. ;)
Allyda
Good luck Allyda, and welcome :D
You sound like you're already beautiful! You'll be ready to post here in no time, I'm sure.
Thanks Kabit, I appreciate the confidence.
@ Gwynne - You look lovely! Love the jacket/cardi... very you. Very happy you had a great experience... Only onward and upwards :)
@ Ms Grace - Thank you so much for the compliment :) My hair is my pride and joy. It was so much thinner a year ago with the onset of MPB... The wonders of HRT. Fingers crossed it keeps getting thicker.
@ Emily - Big hug! Thank you for the vote of confidence. You're coming along rather rapidly too... Must almost be time for a new pic? :)
@ Thylacin - Hehe. Thanks! I'd still love to have your chin! You will be a stunner...
@ Andrea_LS - You're sweet, and your post made me blush a little :). And about Belldandy, it was strange. I chose the avatar without knowing the character, something just clicked. Then reading about the character, it was obvious. :o
@ Shantel - Can't wait to be said woman dropping kids off to school... One day... And thank you for the pointer on a night time eye moisturiser... Rather obvious now you pointed it out, but not something I'd thought of.
Quote from: Shantel on December 08, 2013, 09:09:38 AM
Natalia,
I was thinking what Emily said, plus you'll probably need a brow lift to raise those nice eyebrows and perhaps a little brow bossing work at the same time. You have pretty big eyes and a nice shaped face, chin and jawline though. Stick with it you're looking good!
I didn't want to buy a wig, but perhaps a nice one could help me to hide a bit my brow...it is too big...
I know I still have a long long road ahead, but so far I am enjoying the trip. And thank you for the very kind words ^^
went to my best friends graduation the other day. how did I look. btw I was wearing 5 inch heels so that's why I look so tall. my height is actually 5'7. Im also still not on hormones if any of u r wondering.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F17aefa00-fc93-44e6-91a5-22c115e9cf9b_zpsea526795.jpg&hash=1ba7893177364b643ef2af2655575901b0984a4b)
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Quote from: Angélique LaCava on December 09, 2013, 05:34:49 PM
went to my best friends graduation the other day. how did I look. btw I was wearing 5 inch heels so that's why I look so tall. my height is actually 5'7. Im also still not on hormones if any of u r wondering.
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you look like my sister, everyone has to tell me how unbelievably gorgeous she is...so ya im not gonna say it lol
I decide I am going to be brave, and remove my internet anonymity. I can't promise I will keep the pictures up based on how scared I am someone I might know may see them. Yet I am getting tired of being scared, so if someone does see this - going to wonder how they found this place.
Plus my curiosity has got the best of me and I'd like to hear peoples opinions. How well will HRT work for me and do you think I'd need any "work" done. As I've said before on the forum I am pre-everything even coming out so very much guy....
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So here is me....metaphorically naked to Susan's place world! At least I manage to sorta of smile....gosh really don't like pictures of myself...the mirror is more forgiving then the camera.
You have very pretty eyes, Aina. :)
The eye brows might need some trimming, but I think you have a good base for HRT to do its work on.
so no one else is going to say anything bout my pics? do I look that bad?
Angelique, you not only look fine but I'm a bit jealous!
Here's me, after a few months of HRT and half-done laser sessions finally started to show:
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What do you think? Could I use anything else in the way of general grooming besides the eyebrows?
Last time I did those I had a divot out of one of them because I'm so clumsy.
Quote from: particle on December 02, 2013, 08:28:30 AM
*sigh* I was hoping to hear, "No, you are a hideous beast, and an embarrasment to the trangendered community!"
Oh honey :D, stop! We all have our insecurities. Nobody is perfect, by any means. My grandma used to say "The only people who are not insecure are dead" lol! Calm down, you are great. Welcome to the family!
Quote from: Rose City Rose on December 10, 2013, 01:13:30 AM
Here's me, after a few months of HRT and half-done laser sessions finally started to show:
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What do you think? Could I use anything else in the way of general grooming besides the eyebrows?
Work that top, girlfriend! :D you look great. I love your hair! And yes try and get the brows sculpted and you will be a force to be reckoned with!
So, I hope that I'm getting the right idea and that those who haven't undergone anything yet may post here as well for people who know more than us about all of this;
Hi, I'm Tristan or Auri, whichever (I tend to go by the latter to anyone who doesn't know me physically, and some that do). I'm twenty-three, and nervous as hell about all of this but less afraid than I ever was; finally came out to my parents, which was sort of the flood gate that wouldn't break.
So... yeah. Sadly my voice is very deep and I think of all of it, that's what makes me the most nervous, as I want to have the alto voice I've always heard in my head.
Thoughts?
You've all turned out beautiful. I hope I do too someday.
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Edit: Also, Angelique, you're -gorgeous.-
@Auri, I think You have excellent base for hormones and will do great! You do not seem to have any strong masculine features in Your face and Your jawline is perfect!
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on December 10, 2013, 12:17:46 AM
so no one else is going to say anything bout my pics? do I look that bad?
Maybe its your pics being in this thread and not the Fabulous thread were they belong?
Quote from: Kaylee on December 10, 2013, 05:13:12 AM
Maybe its your pics being in this thread and not the Fabulous thread were they belong?
Yeah, what she said!
Quote from: Aurigrey on December 10, 2013, 05:01:21 AM
So, I hope that I'm getting the right idea and that those who haven't undergone anything yet may post here as well for people who know more than us about all of this;
Hi, I'm Tristan or Auri, whichever (I tend to go by the latter to anyone who doesn't know me physically, and some that do). I'm twenty-three, and nervous as hell about all of this but less afraid than I ever was; finally came out to my parents, which was sort of the flood gate that wouldn't break.
So... yeah. Sadly my voice is very deep and I think of all of it, that's what makes me the most nervous, as I want to have the alto voice I've always heard in my head.
Thoughts?
You've all turned out beautiful. I hope I do too someday.
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Edit: Also, Angelique, you're -gorgeous.-
Auri i honestly think your going to do great on HRT if that's what you decide. The pictures are a little dark but you have beautiful eyes and great cheek bones! x
My current avatar pic. What do you think? (:,
Yeah I know I've got facepaint on lol, but a far as facial structure?
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Also I'm pre-everything.
Quote from: Makalii on December 10, 2013, 07:47:40 AM
My current avatar pic. What do you think? (:,
Yeah I know I've got facepaint on lol, but a far as facial structure?
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Also I'm pre-everything.
Well, suffice it to say, Maka, that I thought your avatar was one of those "aspirational" avatar photos people sometimes use :P
me too actually , you look wonderful.
Quote from: Makalii on December 10, 2013, 07:47:40 AM
My current avatar pic. What do you think? (:,
Yeah I know I've got facepaint on lol, but a far as facial structure?
<--------------
Also I'm pre-everything.
I agree with what has been said so far Maka. You're very pretty and I absolutely love your cheekbones.
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on December 10, 2013, 12:17:46 AM
so no one else is going to say anything bout my pics? do I look that bad?
Angelique,
You always look gorgeous, you are stunning and have nice everything dear! We all enjoy seeing your updates but I think your photos really belong in the "Fabulous" thread rather than "Could I pass?"
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on December 10, 2013, 12:17:46 AM
so no one else is going to say anything bout my pics? do I look that bad?
I just looked at your photos, you're gorgeous! I can't believe you're not on hormones.
So last week was was my 4 month mark on E and one with Spiro. I took a photo at work when I remembered so it's in boy mode but it is maybe the happiest photo I've taken. I also thought I'd put one up of my normal around the house not going outside since it's much too cold and I miss summer self
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You are very beautiful ;)
Quote from: Hayley on December 10, 2013, 11:09:59 AM
So last week was was my 4 month mark on E and one with Spiro. I took a photo at work when I remembered so it's in boy mode but it is maybe the happiest photo I've taken. I also thought I'd put one up of my normal around the house not going outside since it's much too cold and I miss summer self
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Hey there Miss pretty face, lovely smile! The other is very cute too, the look on your cute face says you got caught with your hand in the cookie jar
Quote from: EstroGwynne on December 10, 2013, 07:56:01 AM
Well, suffice it to say, Maka, that I thought your avatar was one of those "aspirational" avatar photos people sometimes use :P
Me to!
You're beautiful, Hayley. <3
Quote from: EstroGwynne on December 10, 2013, 07:56:01 AM
Well, suffice it to say, Maka, that I thought your avatar was one of those "aspirational" avatar photos people sometimes use :P
+1
Quote from: Ashey on December 10, 2013, 12:08:01 AM
You have very pretty eyes, Aina. :)
Thank you! Everyone has said that since I was very little. One part of me I liked a lot since a lot of women have stated how jealous of my eye lashes and eyes hehe...
QuoteThe eye brows might need some trimming, but I think you have a good base for HRT to do its work on.
I figured that, bushy eyebrows runs in my family - at least I have something to work with eh?
Quote from: Aina on December 10, 2013, 12:35:41 PM
Thank you! Everyone has said that since I was very little. One part of me I liked a lot since a lot of women have stated how jealous of my eye lashes and eyes hehe...
I figured that, bushy eyebrows runs in my family - at least I have something to work with eh?
Omg I didn't notice at first but I zoomed in but you do have super long lashes. I know a few girls that would be insanely jealous of that. They really help outline your eyes which are very nice as well.
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on December 10, 2013, 12:17:46 AM
so no one else is going to say anything bout my pics? do I look that bad?
Quite the opposite.
i think it's because you pass so well and so many people have said positive things that they think it's moot to say more. Don't take it the wrong way. Take it as a compliment. You should post in the "You Look Fabulous Darling" thread, not here. That's where you belong, believe me.
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This is my first post here so go ahead, be blunt :p
im 31 btw. hoping to start hrt this month
well... I would post a picture, but I have no idea how to.
Can anyone help a girl out?
Well you take a picture, then you take the file from the camera and put it on your PC. then you upload the picture file to a website host like imgur.com
They'll give you a link you can then use to put here.
madi_craig : I upload the photo to imgur (Free and you don't need an account, although I'd recommend one to keep track of it) when it's done it gives you a load of codes on the right of the image, just paste the BBCode into the message and it will appear!
Ninja'd by Kasika!
Kasika - My wife has just stated that you look just like a woman she works with in the bank, so things are brighter than you think! Personally I think I'd kill for your skin!
photobucket is also a good picture hosting site and fairly easy to use :)
Nuking this now cause I don't like looking at pictures of myself.
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Ok, the pics are from my phone, so they're a little weird looking.
Nonetheless, boy mode vs. girl mode :)
@toxic fox
Im pretty sure you ll be more than ok with hrt
@madi
wow
you look really nice
Thanks so much @falseprincess!
Quote from: Ashey on December 10, 2013, 12:26:56 PM
You're beautiful, Hayley. <3
Thanks! I needed that today!! <3
Quote from: Shantel on December 10, 2013, 12:03:45 PM
...The other is very cute too, the look on your cute face says you got caught with your hand in the cookie jar
Haha yeah... that might be due to the fact I've stolen like half of my wife's sweaters since the colder weather hit.
Quote from: madi_craig on December 10, 2013, 05:02:18 PM
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Ok, the pics are from my phone, so they're a little weird looking.
Nonetheless, boy mode vs. girl mode :)
Nice photo pretty lady! Who is the fellow, is that your brother? ;D
Quote from: Hayley on December 10, 2013, 11:09:59 AM
So last week was was my 4 month mark on E and one with Spiro. I took a photo at work when I remembered so it's in boy mode but it is maybe the happiest photo I've taken. I also thought I'd put one up of my normal around the house not going outside since it's much too cold and I miss summer self your going to turn out pretty amazing
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Quote from: Hayley on December 10, 2013, 11:09:59 AM
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Hayley, you're so pretty :)
You've really got the "girl eyes" going ;D
Rose City Rose: Try not to be too stiff lipped. I don't think your eye brows look too bad their straight, but thin. I'd really like to see what you look like with a more gentle smile though.
Quote from: kasika on December 10, 2013, 04:00:24 PM
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This is my first post here so go ahead, be blunt :p
im 31 btw. hoping to start hrt this month
You have a nice round face. You actually remind me of a few girls I know (all from the same family).
Thanks. I actually my hair tied in a pony tail behind my head in that picture. Ive got shoulder length hair (altough thin) but still a lot of weight to lose. Hopefully this wont make my face too square :/
Quote from: madi_craig on December 10, 2013, 05:02:18 PM
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Your girl mode is totally passable! Gorgeous :)
@kasika - you have a lot of feminine roundness to your face. Maybe deal with your eyebrows and get them under control, different glasses and an appropriate hairstyle with a little touch of make up and I'd say you would indeed look passable.
@ToxicFox - it's not easy to tell from those pics to be honest. You certainly have great lips and your eyes are very dreamy! Your brow might give you some trouble it's hard to tell though, but you should perhaps thin out your eyebrows a bit and that might help.
I am due for a new pair of glasses but i have no idea what kind of frame i should go for for for a more, androgenous look while my transition is underway.
As far as eyebrows and makeup, im a big zero on knowledge on those.
Quote from: EstroGwynne on December 10, 2013, 07:56:01 AM
Well, suffice it to say, Maka, that I thought your avatar was one of those "aspirational" avatar photos people sometimes use :P
Haha awwww thanks that's so sweet! (:, Think I have good potential for HRT?
Quote from: Orange Creamsicle on December 11, 2013, 07:40:29 PM
Did some cleaning up and slight thinning of my eyebrows and my hair's slowly getting longer and don't look quite like I just woke up out of bed like my last picture hehe
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Big change right there, nice photo and nice job on those bushy eyebrows! I'm seeing a lot of potential for you to take it all the way if you decide to. Right now you look like a good candidate for some facial laser work, have you done any yet?
Quote from: Makalii on December 11, 2013, 05:59:24 PM
Haha awwww thanks that's so sweet! (:, Think I have good potential for HRT?
absolutely :)
Quote from: Orange Creamsicle on December 11, 2013, 07:40:29 PM
Did some cleaning up and slight thinning of my eyebrows and my hair's slowly getting longer and don't look quite like I just woke up out of bed like my last picture hehe
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the new hair really softens your face, OC
Please offer me some critical suggestions. I walk by the mirror and just see a guy, but I'm trying. I just came out to my family in September, but have been seeing a GT for awhile longer. I really need some confidence on my appearance.
Guy/Work/Outside Mode
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Me Mode/Family Mode
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I'm growing my own hair out. As you see, that will take awhile. I'm not wearing any makeup, but I usually do wear some. I want a rhino so bad, so hopefully I can get that done in '14.
**Stacy
You've actually got a rather naturally feminine face, Stacy. I might suggest doing something to make your eyes look bigger, maybe shift the hair a bit (Ask a stylist, I'm rather clueless). If you have the voice to match, I think you'd be passing.
Quote from: Mogu on December 11, 2013, 08:23:03 PM
You've actually got a rather naturally feminine face, Stacy. I might suggest doing something to make your eyes look bigger, maybe shift the hair a bit (Ask a stylist, I'm rather clueless). If you have the voice to match, I think you'd be passing.
Thank you. My family has been the only ones to critique me so far, so they still always see the old me. It's hard to get critical advise from close family members, though they have all been kind.
When I use some brow liner and some eyeliner on my water line, it seems to help open my eyes a bit. Why I didn't have any on in this pic, I don't know.
Stacy, I wonder why You would want rhino... You are not on hormones yet, right? Hormones can actually change Your appearance A LOT and that includes the area around Your nose. Skin will tighten up and Your nose might actually look less meaty and such as. But You need to let hormones work for a year or two, before considering any FFS surgeries, because You pretty much might end up with no need for them. Now, if someone needs rhino, its me and I would kill for Your nose, btw :)
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on December 12, 2013, 07:23:01 AM
Stacy, I wonder why You would want rhino... You are not on hormones yet, right? Hormones can actually change Your appearance A LOT and that includes the area around Your nose. Skin will tighten up and Your nose might actually look less meaty and such as. But You need to let hormones work for a year or two, before considering any FFS surgeries, because You pretty much might end up with no need for them. Now, if someone needs rhino, its me and I would kill for Your nose, btw :)
Emily, I actually been on HRT for a little over a year, as I felt it necessary before any FFS. I certainly inherited a strong Nordic nose. During lunch yesterday I was resting at work with my head back. I looked up and a coworker was laughing at me and said he wanted to play ring toss on my nose...haha ugh. No sideshots from me lol. Otherwise, I'm excited with the results of HRT.
Quote from: svaso on December 12, 2013, 07:53:53 AM
I certainly inherited a strong Nordic nose.
Honestly, I think you look beautiful.
Your nose might be larger than you like, but that really won't be FFS, just a pretty woman deciding she wants to look prettier and getting a nose job
Quote from: particle on December 12, 2013, 08:38:18 AM
Honestly, I think you look beautiful.
Your nose might be larger than you like, but that really won't be FFS, just a pretty woman deciding she wants to look prettier and getting a nose job
Aww... thank you.
Quote from: IMsteph on November 27, 2013, 12:18:08 PM
Hi,
I just joined a few days ago. Not sure I'm able to participate in this discussion, but wondering if I can get any advice. I haven't done any FFS or HRT yet, but planning on a nose job and trachea shave to begin with.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi42.tinypic.com%2F2hrix37.jpg&hash=4616f19eacc133955acbcc5bd4d67363ed3e172e)
Thanks for any help you can give me.
You doing just great for not having any thing done
Heres a pic i took today. Do you think i could pass? Im still not on hormones, tho will be starting soon. Any advice would be helpful, and im trying to grow my hair out.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FE4L3jtA.jpg&hash=a0381766f679c4dc2e58e738d2eebec7c02ccc52)
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on December 10, 2013, 12:17:46 AM
so no one else is going to say anything bout my pics? do I look that bad?
I think jealousy might be the problem
Quote from: Numbsong on December 12, 2013, 06:29:00 PM
Heres a pic i took today. Do you think i could pass? Im still not on hormones, tho will be starting soon. Any advice would be helpful, and im trying to grow my hair out.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FE4L3jtA.jpg&hash=a0381766f679c4dc2e58e738d2eebec7c02ccc52)
You are going to look pretty damn fab. Your face looks like it hasn't been touched by testosterone yet. Making me very jello in deed.
Ok, this is my first time posting anything like this!! I'm pre-HRT but hopefully starting in January. Wearing a wig because my hair is still short. Thoughts?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1036.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa443%2Fkina_1988%2Funnamed_zpse3b19515.jpg&hash=c7e35e875da9c96aac6961f56668b174cab21b47) (http://s1036.photobucket.com/user/kina_1988/media/unnamed_zpse3b19515.jpg.html)
Quote from: Kina_1988 on December 12, 2013, 11:07:46 PM
Ok, this is my first time posting anything like this!! I'm pre-HRT but hopefully starting in January. Wearing a wig because my hair is still short. Thoughts?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1036.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa443%2Fkina_1988%2Funnamed_zpse3b19515.jpg&hash=c7e35e875da9c96aac6961f56668b174cab21b47) (http://s1036.photobucket.com/user/kina_1988/media/unnamed_zpse3b19515.jpg.html)
pretty. u should add dark brown or black eyeliner on ur waterline to bring out ur eyes more, but other than that u look female to me. Im not on hormones eather. I hope I can start soon too :)
Edit: its ok that u wear a wig. My hair is real, but im just lucky enough that my parents always let me have really long hair growing up. my hair is about 20 inches
Edit: try some false lashes. get ardell 120 lashes. they are very natural looking. u may have to cut them to fit your eye size and when cutting them makeup u cut from the outer part of the lashes not the inner.
kasika: I can see your a good bit of your jaw line. I don't think you have anything to worry about. :)
Quote from: Kina_1988 on December 12, 2013, 11:07:46 PM
Ok, this is my first time posting anything like this!! I'm pre-HRT but hopefully starting in January. Wearing a wig because my hair is still short. Thoughts?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1036.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa443%2Fkina_1988%2Funnamed_zpse3b19515.jpg&hash=c7e35e875da9c96aac6961f56668b174cab21b47) (http://s1036.photobucket.com/user/kina_1988/media/unnamed_zpse3b19515.jpg.html)
I think little lip stick or gloss would make your lips pop a little more too. Nothing too dark if you don't want, but women generally have darker lips. You're looking great though.
Quote from: assorted_human on December 13, 2013, 12:00:59 AM
kasika: I can see your a good bit of your jaw line. I don't think you have anything to worry about. :)I think little lip stick or gloss would make your lips pop a little more too. Nothing too dark if you don't want, but women generally have darker lips. You're looking great though.
I have a really nice lipstick for her. Revlon pink pout lipstick paired with Revlon crystal lilic lipgloss its wat I use and its so pretty, its not to light or to dark.
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on December 12, 2013, 11:50:39 PM
Quote from: Kina_1988 on December 12, 2013, 11:07:46 PM
Ok, this is my first time posting anything like this!! I'm pre-HRT but hopefully starting in January. Wearing a wig because my hair is still short. Thoughts?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1036.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa443%2Fkina_1988%2Funnamed_zpse3b19515.jpg&hash=c7e35e875da9c96aac6961f56668b174cab21b47) (http://s1036.photobucket.com/user/kina_1988/media/unnamed_zpse3b19515.jpg.html)
pretty. u should add dark brown or black eyeliner on ur waterline to bring out ur eyes more, but other than that u look female to me.
Nailed it!!! I completely agree.
And very pretty indeed. You must be extremely happy being pre-hrt :)
Quote from: Numbsong on December 12, 2013, 06:29:00 PM
Heres a pic i took today. Do you think i could pass? Im still not on hormones, tho will be starting soon. Any advice would be helpful, and im trying to grow my hair out.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FE4L3jtA.jpg&hash=a0381766f679c4dc2e58e738d2eebec7c02ccc52)
Keep growing that hair out and get on those mones I think you're gonna look great!
Can't wait to see a smile, too ;)
Heh, my first time doing something like this... Im not even out yet. So I mean, i may take away the pics. So maybe I'm not asking so much "do" I pass, but rather what would it take should I decide to go with it???
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfvFMVaS.jpg&hash=d69acae64feaaf2c77546fa3d087c88afce5955f) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRsYLDwQ.jpg&hash=5a88d4e442e5b86f68089397c3fd019f9e29c8d3)
Again, pre everything, no anything, all I did was shave. Thanks in advanced!
Quote from: Mickie on December 13, 2013, 01:24:57 AM
Heh, my first time doing something like this... Im not even out yet. So I mean, i may take away the pics. So maybe I'm not asking so much "do" I pass, but rather what would it take should I decide to go with it???
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfvFMVaS.jpg&hash=d69acae64feaaf2c77546fa3d087c88afce5955f) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRsYLDwQ.jpg&hash=5a88d4e442e5b86f68089397c3fd019f9e29c8d3)
Again, pre everything, no anything, all I did was shave. Thanks in advanced!
You have a great base to work from! Great overall face shape, lips, eyes, nose. The only thing I could see from the photo on the right is possibly brow bossing? But sometimes HRT and the right hairstyle is more than enough.
Then there are the obvious ones, beard shadow and eyebrow shaping. Probably a small touch of eyeliner and mascara would set your eyes off in a big way.
I think you'd make a very youthful and cute looking female. I would feel good going into it if I were you :)
Quote from: Mickie on December 13, 2013, 01:24:57 AM
Heh, my first time doing something like this... Im not even out yet. So I mean, i may take away the pics. So maybe I'm not asking so much "do" I pass, but rather what would it take should I decide to go with it???
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfvFMVaS.jpg&hash=d69acae64feaaf2c77546fa3d087c88afce5955f) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRsYLDwQ.jpg&hash=5a88d4e442e5b86f68089397c3fd019f9e29c8d3)
Again, pre everything, no anything, all I did was shave. Thanks in advanced!
U r hot lol, but ive seen girls that look more masculine than u and have great results. ur face is pretty round so I say if u was on hormones or had really good makeup skills, long hair, and ur eyebrows done that u could pass just fine now pre everything.
Edit: don't ask us if u should go with it. If u feel u r female then go with it. If u don't then just stay male. Its up to u.
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on December 13, 2013, 12:20:26 PM
Edit: don't ask us if u should go with it. If u feel u r female then go with it. If u don't then just stay male. Its up to u.
Haha, replace the word "should" with if and when XD
And thanks guys!
I was comparing myself to the 3 months ago me, before i started the hormones.. do you think i make a any change?
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Quote from: Alisha on December 13, 2013, 05:33:59 PM
I was comparing myself to the 3 months ago me, before i started the hormones.. do you think i make a any change?
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Honestly, i just had one of those moments again where I forgot where in the forums I was, and I thought for a moment that it was the FTM board, even though the pics were backwards. Then I read the caption part. I honestly thought the one on the right was like 'Before T' or something. :laugh: So um, I'd say there's a difference and that you pass. :)
LOL. :D I'm flattered Ashley, thank you.. ;)
I'm very concerned I'm too old and my facial bones are too masculine at this point. I'm also worried about how large my breasts will be. My mom has very large breasts so I'm fairly confident I will have large breasts too. I'm worried the most about if my face will look feminine enough.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs16.postimg.org%2Fmipsqw681%2FPicture_72.jpg&hash=567938fae248085eeac0ebb0c5627b9998a8bb80) (http://postimg.org/image/mipsqw681/)
Hon, 20 is young. Lots of users here are in their 40's and older, and I say that they pass just fine.
Fortunately, if you have a masculine bone structure and that's what keeps you from passing, there's FFS, something most transwomen have to get. Don't worry, it's all normal.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs29.postimg.org%2Fokfz6ksv7%2FPicture_35.jpg&hash=6385ec31b0121685167d3ba7a515123346b78751) (http://postimg.org/image/okfz6ksv7/) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs10.postimg.org%2F5u6jlfkol%2F0304130102.jpg&hash=c3231d987b5ccd9f374fcf024a10b587d7bb3e01) (http://postimg.org/image/5u6jlfkol/)
I think I have it figured out this is me with makeup
I think i look good even now so I think I'll look amazing after hormones
You look fine. You'll turn out well.
Could use a little hairline advancement, IMO.
your age is in ur favor but no one has any idea what will happen. I mean I'm 31 yet most peeps think I'm a 24 year old female grad student lol so it isn't everything. But I will tell you one thing: stop working out. The body plays a huge part.
BTW, Willow, I'm not sure most girls need FFS. I'm plenty pretty from just HRT. In fact I really turn guys on apparently.
lol... you don't need a hairline advancement. If you do, most cis women do too.
Quote from: Big Tunnza on December 13, 2013, 06:39:05 PM
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I think I have it figured out this is me with makeup
I think i look good even now so I think I'll look amazing after hormones
let me just say this. If u didn't want to change ur gender id <not allowed> u lmfao. u r smoking hot as a guy. hopefully that dosnt offend u, but u look like a pretty girl too.
Edit: if u want to have a feminine body before hormones Id suggest stop doing pushups and only doing 100 situps and 20 squats a day cause that's what I do and my body looks like this
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F1477361_710039755681906_353042819_n_zps7ccafabf.jpg&hash=886dfd0d632c99b2f37122c85341673d0af2c463).
just look on youtube. I havnt start HRT yet unfortunately, but I hope to later this year.
At 20 you most def will transition well. And yes there are quite a few who have transitioned 19-21. But they tend to be stealth she to wanting to enjoy those years with their friends and boyfriends
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on December 13, 2013, 08:18:20 PM
let me just say this. If u didn't want to change ur genders id <not allowed> u lmfao. ur r smoking hot as a guy. hopefully that dosnt offend u, but u look like a pretty girl too.
Edit: if u want to have a feminine body before hormones Id suggest stop doing pushups and only doing 100 situps and 20 squats a day cause that's what I do and my body looks like this
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F1477361_710039755681906_353042819_n_zps7ccafabf.jpg&hash=886dfd0d632c99b2f37122c85341673d0af2c463).
Oh wow....and no hormones...I need to get going on my sit-ups
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on December 13, 2013, 08:18:20 PM
let me just say this. If u didn't want to change ur gender id <not allowed> u lmfao. u r smoking hot as a guy. hopefully that dosnt offend u, but u look like a pretty girl too.
Edit: if u want to have a feminine body before hormones Id suggest stop doing pushups and only doing 100 situps and 20 squats a day cause that's what I do and my body looks like this
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F1477361_710039755681906_353042819_n_zps7ccafabf.jpg&hash=886dfd0d632c99b2f37122c85341673d0af2c463).
Oh wow....so jealous...
Quote from: kasika on December 10, 2013, 04:00:24 PM
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This is my first post here so go ahead, be blunt :p
im 31 btw. hoping to start hrt this month
Definitely think you pass already. with longer hair you will be even more adorable <3
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on December 13, 2013, 08:18:20 PM
u want to have a feminine body before hormones Id suggest stop doing pushups and only doing 100 situps and 20 squats a day cause that's what I do and my body looks like this
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F1477361_710039755681906_353042819_n_zps7ccafabf.jpg&hash=886dfd0d632c99b2f37122c85341673d0af2c463).
*fans herself* whew, even though I prefer my chub, you're body is undeniably HOTTTTTT!
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on December 13, 2013, 08:18:20 PM
Edit: if u want to have a feminine body before hormones Id suggest stop doing pushups and only doing 100 situps and 20 squats a day...
Oh, is that all? Easy!
1,2,3,4..5...6....7.....8.............. dang ;)
Quote from: Ms Grace on December 15, 2013, 03:14:08 AM
Oh, is that all? Easy!
1,2,3,4..5...6....7.....8.............. dang ;)
Rather around 240 squats per day not 20, lol!
With my hair down
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Quote from: Ms Grace on December 15, 2013, 03:14:08 AM
Oh, is that all? Easy!
1,2,3,4..5...6....7.....8.............. dang ;)
Start with 20, then go up!
That is what I am doing, I do about 20 squats, then around 30-40 situps, and various other exercises that are known to increase hip muscle size ect.
Takes about 15 mins! :)
Cannot for the life of me figure out how to post a picture, please help!
whats up with the poll?
Im afraid to answer that...Im 19 , I d really wouldnt want to get it wrong... :(
@btw emily first upload your pic to a site like photobucket , then get the forum code or something ( you ll see it propably) and then when you post a reply use the insert image comand ,,,its the little box with mona lisa over the emoticons , you ll see it i guess...
Quote from: Emily finally on December 15, 2013, 03:39:45 PM
Cannot for the life of me figure out how to post a picture, please help!
I think you have to wait until your fifth post or something. Go say hello over in the introduction thread and one of the moderators will give you the various post hurdles.
Quote from: Big Tunnza on December 13, 2013, 06:39:05 PM
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I think I have it figured out this is me with makeup
I think i look good even now so I think I'll look amazing after hormones
You are a very handsome guy. Pretty boys make beautiful women I think you'll be fine. STOP lifting weights though take it from me. I did what you did its taking forevers for my biceps to shrink.
Ok so how do I post a pic here? Do I just paste the link to it, it's on my blog.
Quote from: Phyliciaraine on December 16, 2013, 11:04:10 AM
Ok so how do I post a pic here? Do I just paste the link to it, it's on my blog.
[img]http://imagelinkgoeshere[/img]
Quote from: Big Tunnza on December 13, 2013, 06:39:05 PM
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I think I have it figured out this is me with makeup
I think i look good even now so I think I'll look amazing after hormones
Honestly you will look great when the hormones are really taking effect!
More recent pics, not sure why the moustache shadow is so prevalent(freshly shaved) I have my third laser session friday so hopefully it improves. Dyed my hair Blueberry purple tonight hence the change in color. Oh and no make up still working on concealer and foundation purchases ie; what shades I need.
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Forcing the smile in the second one....it felt weird lol
Quote from: Charley Bea(EmeraldP) on December 17, 2013, 02:11:37 PM
More recent pics, not sure why the moustache shadow is so prevalent(freshly shaved) I have my third laser session friday so hopefully it improves. Dyed my hair Blueberry purple tonight hence the change in color. Oh and no make up still working on concealer and foundation purchases ie; what shades I need.
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Forcing the smile in the second one....it felt weird lol
I think you look just fine :) You have a very feminine shape to you face and great eyes.
And I know what you mean about forcing a smile ;)
Quote from: Charley Bea(EmeraldP) on December 17, 2013, 02:11:37 PM
More recent pics, not sure why the moustache shadow is so prevalent(freshly shaved) I have my third laser session friday so hopefully it improves. Dyed my hair Blueberry purple tonight hence the change in color. Oh and no make up still working on concealer and foundation purchases ie; what shades I need.
You've changed quite a bit from some earlier photos you had up. The technicians at Sephora will get you dialed in on what tones would work best for you. Judging from the shape of your face you are heavy, how's the weight thing coming along?
I am at last weighing(myself) 118 but our scales are off and at my last endo I was weighed at 115, so I have put weight back on from the start of the year unfortunately. weird thing is though I do not particularly have large arms or legs, it seems most of my weight(size) is on my stomach. So yes I am a big girl but hope to change that somehow.
Please tell me those weights are in kg, and not pounds.
Quote from: particle on December 18, 2013, 12:42:32 PM
Please tell me those weights are in kg, and not pounds.
Absolutely - it was the first thing which confused me too. With pounds this would be within unhealthy range for pretty much any adult person...
Quote from: Charley Bea(EmeraldP) on December 18, 2013, 11:46:52 AM
I am at last weighing(myself) 118 but our scales are off and at my last endo I was weighed at 115, so I have put weight back on from the start of the year unfortunately. weird thing is though I do not particularly have large arms or legs, it seems most of my weight(size) is on my stomach. So yes I am a big girl but hope to change that somehow.
Modify your intake to your current needs rather than what you needed as a teenager when you were involved in sports and other activities, eat lean foods, smaller portions, then get into a daily workout regimen and do it religiously, within a year or so you will not look anything like your current self and will be amazed.
Next person who calls themselves a "big girl" who is less than 5'10 or 300lbs is getting sat on by me.
And I'm 6'3 and 425 so that isn't fin
Sorry it is in kgs, thought I added that. Never was heavily into sport didn't enjoy it or see the point, exceptions were Tenpin Bowling of which I won trophies and medals for....though hardly seems that great in hindsight and self defence karate and again never felt like there was any point or enjoyment with it after awhile. I did train for a while to be a 'pro' wrestler but various health issues put an end to that.
So not a very sporty person.when I was like 12 or 13 I only weigh about 38kgs just couldn't put weight on no matter what I ate, then I came of medication for epilepsy and my weight shot upto to 86kgs and then over the last few years I have gone over 100kgs. But yeah most of my weight seems to stick to my stomach and maybe my thighs and face.
Also I say I am a 'big girl' only because I have been led to believe that especially in comparison to other girls around me and certain attitudes. By the way most 'male' pro-wrestlers weigh over 200 pounds and they are far from unhealthy. One or two 'female' wrestlers that I know of that are over 120 pounds and again hardly unhealthy.
Quote from: Shantel on December 18, 2013, 01:05:00 PM
Modify your intake to your current needs rather than what you needed as a teenager when you were involved in sports and other activities, eat lean foods, smaller portions, then get into a daily workout regimen and do it religiously, within a year or so you will not look anything like your current self and will be amazed.
I went up to 103kg, and doing exactly what Shantel has said here has got me down to 82kg in about 18 months.
For exercise, an hour of walking 4 or 5 times a day has been enough.
so i haven't wanted to post this picture and it is small and fuzzy cuz i really don't like seeing my shoulders, but i was wondering if anyone has had shoulders and arms like myself and got them within female range with diet and cardio
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi930.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad144%2Finfinitepure%2FShoulders.jpg&hash=37ddc862edcc9afb0c351974a62e3be7ebc0e2d5) (http://s930.photobucket.com/user/infinitepure/media/Shoulders.jpg.html)
This is definitely in the 'Could I pass?' part of the thread's title, but here we go!
If all goes according to plan I'll be starting HRT tomorrow, and I'm hoping it will fill out some of these masculine angles and lines on my face.
Excuses over, I'm screwing up my courage and posting a pic :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCbFgBsO.jpg&hash=fa40519f14031bfe0bacfa95e014a4b06aaea454)
Joan, you absolutely pass!
Quote from: particle on December 18, 2013, 01:14:28 PM
And I'm 6'3 and 425lb...
Yep, that's pretty darn big... I'm the same height but less than half your weight. I consider myself a tall girl rather than a big one.
I've never weighed much, and was even unhealthily underweight a couple of times. I did start to pack it on a bit more after I hit 40, especially around the waist. Walking is the main thing I'm trying to lose it. If I could lose a full stone (whatever that is in kilos or pounds) I'll be very happy. Some people are recommending squats, might give those a go. If only the squats would move it up to my bewbs I'd be very happy! ;D
Quote from: Joan on December 18, 2013, 05:39:34 PM
I went up to 103kg, and doing exactly what Shantel has said here has got me down to 82kg in about 18 months.
For exercise, an hour of walking 4 or 5 times a day has been enough.
Congratulations Joan! :eusa_clap:
I had let myself go and turned into a blimp for awhile and finally took control of it quite successfully. It takes work and determination along with deleting a lot of bad thinking about the place of food and drinks in one's life. If I can do it anyone can and I try to encourage others to become successful gaining control over weight issues. It's so wonderful to look good in your clothes, feel good about yourself and enjoy a better quality of life.
Quote from: Joan on December 18, 2013, 06:16:38 PM
This is definitely in the 'Could I pass?' part of the thread's title, but here we go!
If all goes according to plan I'll be starting HRT tomorrow, and I'm hoping it will fill out some of these masculine angles and lines on my face.
Excuses over, I'm screwing up my courage and posting a pic :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCbFgBsO.jpg&hash=fa40519f14031bfe0bacfa95e014a4b06aaea454)
Joan,
You have a nice face to begin with, pretty eyes and nice eyebrows. You might need some nose work eventually and there are fillers for cheeks. You have a really nice look about you though hon, you go girl!
We'll thank you! It does take a new approach to food and what you eat, but once you get into good habits then it gets easier. The blood test results from my yearly health check up got back into healthy ranges too.
Oh, and it should have been walking 4 or 5 times a week, not a day. That would be pretty tiring :D
Quote from: Shantel on December 18, 2013, 06:27:04 PM
Joan,
You have a nice face to begin with, pretty eyes and nice eyebrows. You might need some nose work eventually and there are fillers for cheeks. You have a really nice look about you though hon, you go girl!
Thank you :)
Yes, I've been thinking the same thing. The nose is big in my family, my mom and sister too. I think mine might be the biggest though :)
Are fillers injections?
Quote from: Joan on December 18, 2013, 06:32:53 PM
Thank you :)
Yes, I've been thinking the same thing. The nose is big in my family, my mom and sister too. I think mine might be the biggest though :)
Are fillers injections?
Yes, collagen and it lasts for about three years and has to be tuned back up. You'll have to talk to your local plastic surgeon and investigate the possibilities.
Hi, I'm new here... Turned 30 back in september *feeling a little old* :-\
Just started seeing psych today, hopefully I will get to start HRT in the near future, and really hoping Im not too old to start!!
Anyway, here is yours truly.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs9.postimg.org%2F4k84uk2lb%2FPhoto_on_31.jpg&hash=f3d6957c21c5fefe62ca346e0c07c4207b8e631b)
And one more "in drag" just for fun :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs23.postimg.org%2Fow9sqwa8b%2FPhoto_on_21_10_13_at_3_53_PM.jpg&hash=e4f64426c17ea1cb683c5b6105e474d964879f91)
Quote from: J on December 19, 2013, 12:56:40 AM
Hi, I'm new here... Turned 30 back in september *feeling a little old* :-\
Just started seeing psych today, hopefully I will get to start HRT in the near future, and really hoping Im not too old to start!!
Anyway, here is yours truly.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs9.postimg.org%2F4k84uk2lb%2FPhoto_on_31.jpg&hash=f3d6957c21c5fefe62ca346e0c07c4207b8e631b)
And one more "in drag" just for fun :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs23.postimg.org%2Fow9sqwa8b%2FPhoto_on_21_10_13_at_3_53_PM.jpg&hash=e4f64426c17ea1cb683c5b6105e474d964879f91)
You're so pretty! I hope I can look half as good as you do :)
Quote from: kiaraja on December 18, 2013, 06:13:52 PM
so i haven't wanted to post this picture and it is small and fuzzy cuz i really don't like seeing my shoulders, but i was wondering if anyone has had shoulders and arms like myself and got them within female range with diet and cardio
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi930.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad144%2Finfinitepure%2FShoulders.jpg&hash=37ddc862edcc9afb0c351974a62e3be7ebc0e2d5) (http://s930.photobucket.com/user/infinitepure/media/Shoulders.jpg.html)
Id like to know this too... I have a very similar build myself...
Quote from: J on December 19, 2013, 12:56:40 AM
Hi, I'm new here... Turned 30 back in september *feeling a little old* :-\
Just started seeing psych today, hopefully I will get to start HRT in the near future, and really hoping Im not too old to start!!
Anyway, here is yours truly.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs9.postimg.org%2F4k84uk2lb%2FPhoto_on_31.jpg&hash=f3d6957c21c5fefe62ca346e0c07c4207b8e631b)
And one more "in drag" just for fun :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs23.postimg.org%2Fow9sqwa8b%2FPhoto_on_21_10_13_at_3_53_PM.jpg&hash=e4f64426c17ea1cb683c5b6105e474d964879f91)
u look like u have had work done on ur face... it could just be cause ur facial features r so strong. im wondering r u transgender or just a drag queen? cause u said "in drag". in the pic of u as u put "in drag" I cant really see ur whole face cause u have it at a weird angle, but at that angle u look like a girl to me.
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on December 19, 2013, 01:08:25 AM
u look like u have had work done on ur face... it could just be cause ur facial features r so strong. im wondering r u transgender or just a drag queen? cause u said "in drag". in the pic of u as u put "in drag" I cant really see ur whole face cause u have it at a weird angle, but at that angle u look like a girl to me.
Work done on my face? No. I've never had anything done to me, lol. My background is Polish so I guess I get the slavic cheekbones?
And No Im not drag queen... I simply said "in drag" because Im wearing a wig and make up... Sorry, Should I have used a different word?
Thank you btw... Now if only my body could pass too :( Absolutely hating my broad shoulders and arms. Too many years trying to fit into a male stereotype :/
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on December 13, 2013, 08:18:20 PM
Edit: if u want to have a feminine body before hormones Id suggest stop doing pushups and only doing 100 situps and 20 squats a day cause that's what I do and my body looks like this
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F1477361_710039755681906_353042819_n_zps7ccafabf.jpg&hash=886dfd0d632c99b2f37122c85341673d0af2c463).
WOW! *slightly jealous*
You've inspired me, Going to have to start up those squats I think!
Quote from: J on December 19, 2013, 12:56:40 AM
Hi, I'm new here... Turned 30 back in september *feeling a little old* :-\
Just started seeing psych today, hopefully I will get to start HRT in the near future, and really hoping Im not too old to start!!
Anyway, here is yours truly.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs9.postimg.org%2F4k84uk2lb%2FPhoto_on_31.jpg&hash=f3d6957c21c5fefe62ca346e0c07c4207b8e631b)
And one more "in drag" just for fun :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs23.postimg.org%2Fow9sqwa8b%2FPhoto_on_21_10_13_at_3_53_PM.jpg&hash=e4f64426c17ea1cb683c5b6105e474d964879f91)
oh my gawd i love your eyes, i am in dire needs to learn some eye makeup techniques, how did you learn yours?
Quote from: kiaraja on December 19, 2013, 01:42:36 AM
oh my gawd i love your eyes, i am in dire needs to learn some eye makeup techniques, how did you learn yours?
lol awww thank ya... I don't really have much technique yet.. Just practicing :) As for the photo - It's really nothing special though... Just a little liquid liner on my top lashline, tapering out to a wing and a little highlite in the corner of the eye. I just follow youtube videos of people like michellephan, and I try my best... mind you my first few times were shocking!!!!
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on December 19, 2013, 01:08:25 AM
im wondering r u transgender or just a drag queen? cause u said "in drag". in the pic of u as u put "in drag" I cant really see ur whole face cause u have it at a weird angle, but at that angle u look like a girl to me.
Lol, she said she wanted to start HRT. Don't focus so much on terminology like "drag". Heck, I sometimes consider guy-mode my "straight drag". :P
Quote from: J on December 19, 2013, 12:56:40 AM
Hi, I'm new here... Turned 30 back in september *feeling a little old* :-\
Just started seeing psych today, hopefully I will get to start HRT in the near future, and really hoping Im not too old to start!!
Anyway, here is yours truly.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs9.postimg.org%2F4k84uk2lb%2FPhoto_on_31.jpg&hash=f3d6957c21c5fefe62ca346e0c07c4207b8e631b)
And one more "in drag" just for fun :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs23.postimg.org%2Fow9sqwa8b%2FPhoto_on_21_10_13_at_3_53_PM.jpg&hash=e4f64426c17ea1cb683c5b6105e474d964879f91)
Rule 1 of transitioning: You're never too old to start. It does help that you're super pretty to start with, though.
Quote from: J on December 19, 2013, 12:56:40 AM
Hi, I'm new here... Turned 30 back in september *feeling a little old* :-\
Just started seeing psych today, hopefully I will get to start HRT in the near future, and really hoping Im not too old to start!!
Anyway, here is yours truly.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs9.postimg.org%2F4k84uk2lb%2FPhoto_on_31.jpg&hash=f3d6957c21c5fefe62ca346e0c07c4207b8e631b)
And one more "in drag" just for fun :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs23.postimg.org%2Fow9sqwa8b%2FPhoto_on_21_10_13_at_3_53_PM.jpg&hash=e4f64426c17ea1cb683c5b6105e474d964879f91)
You have great cheek bones and a small chin. Looking at your second picture i would never question your gender, rather how to get your number ;P
Quote from: Bardoux on December 19, 2013, 06:16:49 AM
You have great cheek bones and a small chin. Looking at your second picture i would never question your gender, rather how to get your number ;P
Indeed! She's definitely some kind of pretty ;)
J- the only issue I could see is hairline... Everything else looks fantabulous to the max! :D
Perhaps you could hide your hairline with a good hairstyle once it gets long enough, but that would limit your options.
I think HRT will do absolute wonders for you.. It will help with the shoulder mass and musculature issues that you mentioned, and it will only serve to make that beautiful face of yours even more so.
Welcome to the site, I hope to see you around :)
Ok, so I'm pre HRT, going to start in a few months, I'm working on losing some more weight before I start. I'm wearing some natural make-up. Please let me know what you think.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi793.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy215%2Flafantasie05%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FIMG_20131102_214152_zpsuirgjky_edit_1387480862707_zpsimzd10k0.jpg&hash=03c797254ad8ba2a4f9c183b86f53a46a6372b4b)
I hope I posted the link right.
Phyli - if I saw you in the street I would think "she looks nice"...so in my books at least, you pass. 8)
So Im nine months on HRT and three months on a regular dose, and when I first took this picture I thought I looked okay maybe even pretty. But now....ugh. Is it in my head? Do I need FFS just to be someone lese or do I actually look female? I havent posted here in awhile but I could use the advice. Thanks in advance for any replies and im not sensitive so if ya think im ugly or dont pass, say it.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1056.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft372%2Fdedalus3333%2Fohsoprettypretty_zps88138a66.jpg&hash=64223b13f6b688c6b6ff7fa22d2b7f0f7e6e602a) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/dedalus3333/media/ohsoprettypretty_zps88138a66.jpg.html)
What ugly picture? The one with the pretty woman with a slightly large nose and an unflattering haircut?,
Quote from: J on December 19, 2013, 12:56:40 AM
Hi, I'm new here... Turned 30 back in september *feeling a little old* :-\
Just started seeing psych today, hopefully I will get to start HRT in the near future, and really hoping Im not too old to start!!
Anyway, here is yours truly.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs9.postimg.org%2F4k84uk2lb%2FPhoto_on_31.jpg&hash=f3d6957c21c5fefe62ca346e0c07c4207b8e631b)
And one more "in drag" just for fun :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs23.postimg.org%2Fow9sqwa8b%2FPhoto_on_21_10_13_at_3_53_PM.jpg&hash=e4f64426c17ea1cb683c5b6105e474d964879f91)
You are absolutely beautiful! Hormones are going to make you into a gorgeous girl!
Joanna, you've got short hair and you pass and look great. That takes some doing. :)
Quote from: Joanna Dark on December 19, 2013, 04:08:01 PM
So Im nine months on HRT and three months on a regular dose, and when I first took this picture I thought I looked okay maybe even pretty. But now....ugh. Is it in my head? Do I need FFS just to be someone lese or do I actually look female? I havent posted here in awhile but I could use the advice. Thanks in advance for any replies and im not sensitive so if ya think im ugly or dont pass, say it.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1056.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft372%2Fdedalus3333%2Fohsoprettypretty_zps88138a66.jpg&hash=64223b13f6b688c6b6ff7fa22d2b7f0f7e6e602a) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/dedalus3333/media/ohsoprettypretty_zps88138a66.jpg.html)
Most of us can use some FFS, usually it's not really that important, who you are is much more important and you are a nice woman in my estimation Joanna, a real sweetheart, and that's the most important part sweetie!
Quote from: Joanna Dark on December 19, 2013, 04:08:01 PM
So Im nine months on HRT and three months on a regular dose, and when I first took this picture I thought I looked okay maybe even pretty. But now....ugh. Is it in my head? Do I need FFS just to be someone lese or do I actually look female? I havent posted here in awhile but I could use the advice. Thanks in advance for any replies and im not sensitive so if ya think im ugly or dont pass, say it.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1056.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft372%2Fdedalus3333%2Fohsoprettypretty_zps88138a66.jpg&hash=64223b13f6b688c6b6ff7fa22d2b7f0f7e6e602a) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/dedalus3333/media/ohsoprettypretty_zps88138a66.jpg.html)
one of the most impossible things is to see your self objectively. I wouldn't lose any sleep over your looks.
I'm hoping to start HRT in the near future, so here's my starting point. I hope that I'm not too manly looking to begin with. I think it'll be okay. Thoughts?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1512247_10200940036013350_347310857_o.jpg?dl=1)
I didn't notice those shoulder bumps until now. That shirt is a little bit tight lol
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1500951_10200869490249750_1097476118_o.jpg?dl=1)
Quote from: encoeur89 on December 19, 2013, 11:13:49 PM
I'm hoping to start HRT in the near future, so here's my starting point. I hope that I'm not too manly looking to begin with. I think it'll be okay. Thoughts?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1512247_10200940036013350_347310857_o.jpg?dl=1)
I didn't notice those shoulder bumps until now. That shirt is a little bit tight lol
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1500951_10200869490249750_1097476118_o.jpg?dl=1)
Heya!!! Thank you for your kind words earlier! Forgot to reply!!!! :embarrassed:
I think You have a great start!!!! And from what I hear and have seen on these forums, youtube and in real life HRT works wonders!!!! :D
On a side note... Love your hair!!!! Wish mine was that colour <3
Quote from: J on December 19, 2013, 11:18:26 PM
Heya!!! Thank you for your kind words earlier! Forgot to reply!!!! :embarrassed:
I think You have a great start!!!! And from what I hear and have seen on these forums, youtube and in real life HRT works wonders!!!! :D
On a side note... Love your hair!!!! Wish mine was that colour <3
Thanks! I really appreciate it :) I really like my hair color too. The only downside though is that if you're a red-head then you don't get to have a soul :icon_giggle: lol j/k
Quote from: encoeur89 on December 19, 2013, 11:24:36 PM
Thanks! I really appreciate it :) I really like my hair color too. The only downside though is that if you're a red-head then you don't get to have a soul :icon_giggle: lol j/k
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
funny thing is... my mum has pale skin and red hair, but her mum (my grandma) looks spanish... olive skin dark hair... somehow I ended up an almost splitting image of grandma and not mum. lol. Always been jealous of mums hair colour though <3
Anyway, enough thread hijack :angel:
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on December 13, 2013, 08:18:20 PM
let me just say this. If u didn't want to change ur gender id <not allowed> u lmfao. u r smoking hot as a guy. hopefully that dosnt offend u, but u look like a pretty girl too.
Edit: if u want to have a feminine body before hormones Id suggest stop doing pushups and only doing 100 situps and 20 squats a day cause that's what I do and my body looks like this
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F1477361_710039755681906_353042819_n_zps7ccafabf.jpg&hash=886dfd0d632c99b2f37122c85341673d0af2c463).
Oh wow, I think tomorrow I'm gonna start getting on this and doing those situps and squats. I was never too sure on a routine I could do to get that feminine body, because when I looked it up someone said that it doesn't help lose weight, it just shapes the stomach, idk. But I guess you're proof that's wrong! Lol, thank you for the amazing tip :3
Quote from: J on December 19, 2013, 12:56:40 AM
Hi, I'm new here... Turned 30 back in september *feeling a little old* :-\
Just started seeing psych today, hopefully I will get to start HRT in the near future, and really hoping Im not too old to start!!
Anyway, here is yours truly.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs9.postimg.org%2F4k84uk2lb%2FPhoto_on_31.jpg&hash=f3d6957c21c5fefe62ca346e0c07c4207b8e631b)
And one more "in drag" just for fun :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs23.postimg.org%2Fow9sqwa8b%2FPhoto_on_21_10_13_at_3_53_PM.jpg&hash=e4f64426c17ea1cb683c5b6105e474d964879f91)
Awwwws! You's so cute!
*cuddles furiously* ;D HRT will be most kind to you hunni, I don't think you'll have anything to worry about and personally I'd kill to look even half as adorable as you! :-*
And don't worry about the age - I'm just starting out and I'm just coming up to 28 so I'm not far behind ya hun! >_< We may be starting later than we should have, but at the same time we're starting earlier than we could have, so don't forget that! ;)
<333
So I though I should post here too ^-^
2 pics ,one with a random t shirt and one with my average winter outfit
while these were taken i was 40 days on spiro and 10 days on e...
its wierd cause sometimes I feel like i pass and some like i dont,,,i also think i look more masculine in pics than when i look in the mirror (is there an explanation for this? am i the only one?)
be gentle with me :laugh:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2Fdnbxx56yr%2FSnapshot_20131220_3.jpg&hash=a3efe412c6ba9245b5cb5844cfd0149c3b5ca13a)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs28.postimg.org%2Fo5u0mpx1p%2FSnapshot_20131220_7.jpg&hash=fcb39ba3f8dd35031492450d35c60b10650aa07d)
Quote from: FalsePrincess on December 20, 2013, 06:29:18 PM
So I though I should post here too ^-^
Wow. I don't doubt you'd pass all the time.
Quote from: FalsePrincess on December 20, 2013, 06:29:18 PM
So I though I should post here too ^-^
2 pics ,one with a random t shirt and one with my average winter outfit
while these were taken i was 40 days on spiro and 10 days on e...
its wierd cause sometimes I feel like i pass and some like i dont,,,i also think i look more masculine in pics than when i look in the mirror (is there an explanation for this? am i the only one?)
be gentle with me :laugh:
You have such a gentle and feminine face already... I'm so so jealous! I suspect HRT is going to be magical for you.
From the photos, the make up has done an excellent job of bringing attention to your most feminine features, although perhaps avoid shadow under the eyes.
I might suggest some brow grooming. I think this would complete your look.
Otherwise, you're a stunner. Hope you're ready for attention girly!.
Whoa, hey there FP. ;)
*fans self*
Btw, love your hair. :)
Quote from: FalsePrincess on December 20, 2013, 06:29:18 PM
So I though I should post here too ^-^
2 pics ,one with a random t shirt and one with my average winter outfit
while these were taken i was 40 days on spiro and 10 days on e...
its wierd cause sometimes I feel like i pass and some like i dont,,,i also think i look more masculine in pics than when i look in the mirror (is there an explanation for this? am i the only one?)
be gentle with me :laugh:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2Fdnbxx56yr%2FSnapshot_20131220_3.jpg&hash=a3efe412c6ba9245b5cb5844cfd0149c3b5ca13a)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs28.postimg.org%2Fo5u0mpx1p%2FSnapshot_20131220_7.jpg&hash=fcb39ba3f8dd35031492450d35c60b10650aa07d)
You could never pass as a guy looking like that, sorry Princess! Of course you pass and you're also very pretty, if I had said otherwise I'd surly be stoned by everyone here. Maybe you ought to head on over to the Fabulous thread hon!
Quote from: FalsePrincess on December 20, 2013, 06:29:18 PM
So I though I should post here too ^-^
2 pics ,one with a random t shirt and one with my average winter outfit
while these were taken i was 40 days on spiro and 10 days on e...
its wierd cause sometimes I feel like i pass and some like i dont,,,i also think i look more masculine in pics than when i look in the mirror (is there an explanation for this? am i the only one?)
be gentle with me :laugh:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2Fdnbxx56yr%2FSnapshot_20131220_3.jpg&hash=a3efe412c6ba9245b5cb5844cfd0149c3b5ca13a)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs28.postimg.org%2Fo5u0mpx1p%2FSnapshot_20131220_7.jpg&hash=fcb39ba3f8dd35031492450d35c60b10650aa07d)
Wow!!! Gorgeous! <3 Can I be you?
Quote from: FalsePrincess on December 20, 2013, 06:29:18 PM
So I though I should post here too ^-^
2 pics ,one with a random t shirt and one with my average winter outfit
while these were taken i was 40 days on spiro and 10 days on e...
its wierd cause sometimes I feel like i pass and some like i dont,,,i also think i look more masculine in pics than when i look in the mirror (is there an explanation for this? am i the only one?)
be gentle with me :laugh:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2Fdnbxx56yr%2FSnapshot_20131220_3.jpg&hash=a3efe412c6ba9245b5cb5844cfd0149c3b5ca13a)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs28.postimg.org%2Fo5u0mpx1p%2FSnapshot_20131220_7.jpg&hash=fcb39ba3f8dd35031492450d35c60b10650aa07d)
Gentle??
Whoa! You're cute-o-licious
I know I can't pass as female right now but I have a question about HRT I'm 35 as of a week ago and have acne scar's I have not taken hrt yet and am wondering if I in some way might be a little old and maybe it won't change much and I would need ffs. My wife thinks ill be ok but she lobes me and wouldnt want to hurt me anymore than i already am.Thank you for your time, I apologize if this is not the place for this. Forgive me I'm new.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2F95752714%40N05%2F11473287576%2Fin%2Fphotostream%2F&hash=1002f00aaa84b648fc5197e051f039ee81857c7e)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/95752714@N05/11473287576/in/photostream/
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2F95752714%40N05%2F11473335303%2F&hash=860cccb5f69adf0ef9366b3bea1c1d257ef8a429)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/95752714@N05/11473335303/
Hope the pictures work.
Quote from: Chloe Ceviche on December 20, 2013, 09:10:20 PM
I know I can't pass as femalenright now but I have a question about HRT I'm 35 as of a week ago and have acne scar's I have not taken hrt yet and am wondering if I in some way might be a little old and maybe it won't chMhe much and I would need ffs. My wife thinks ill be ok but she lobes me and wouldnt want to hurt me anymore than i already am.Thank you for your time, I apologize if this is not the place for this. Forgive me I'm new.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2F95752714%40N05%2F11473287576%2Fin%2Fphotostream%2F&hash=1002f00aaa84b648fc5197e051f039ee81857c7e)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/95752714@N05/11473287576/in/photostream/
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2F95752714%40N05%2F11473335303%2F&hash=860cccb5f69adf0ef9366b3bea1c1d257ef8a429)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/95752714@N05/11473335303/
Hope the pictures work.
It's Ok Chloe, you're in the right place and don't let age get in your way hon, I'm seventy as of last August. You can eventually get a chemical peel for the acne scars, I've seen it done on a woman that had awful skin and she looked beautiful after it was all healed from the procedure. You have a really nice shaped face and should be able to transition nicely. There's no such thing as can't!
Chloe, first of all welcome :D
Second of all, you look strikingly like one of my twenty-something cis female friends especially with the wig on. The similarity is uncanny.
I don't think you'll have any trouble passing, and definitely listen to that loving wife of yours :)
The pictures work. Acne scars are not a problem. HRT can do wonders for anyone. 35 is in no way old.
And what Jenny said, Welcome to Susan's.
FalsePrincess, you are beautiful! We are our own worst critics an this is even more so for pictures vs mirrors. When you are looking in the mirror you see your reflection (durr), but when you see a photo of yourself you are not seeing a mirror image of yourself; rather how you truly are. Vsauce from YouTube did a very good explanation of this. Starts at about 1/3 through the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRP82omMX0g&sns=em
wow guys , your comments made my day,,,or maybe my week :laugh:
ty :D
Quote from: FalsePrincess on December 21, 2013, 06:34:32 AM
wow guys , your comments made my day,,,or maybe my week :laugh:
ty :D
If I may add...you will get looks, but not because you are being clocked. You are absolutely gorgeous! Love the hair and nose!
Quote from: svaso on December 21, 2013, 06:50:47 AM
If I may add...you will get looks, but not because you are being clocked. You are absolutely gorgeous! Love the hair and nose!
^seconded ;)
<333
You guys are sooo nice :)
Quote from: FalsePrincess on December 21, 2013, 12:02:08 PM
[something about mirrors vs. pictures]
I hope you dont mind but i paraphrased what you said a couple days ago about pictures making you look masculine when in a mirror you look way more femme. I have the same problem. I look at myself in the mirror or in a reflection and I'm like wow, i really am kinda pretty (at least when I try; I never get sir'd when presenting female only when presenting as a bum). But I look at pictures and I'm like eww, WTF, Im hideous. HIDEOUS! I gots to do something bouts my hair tho. But I totally get the pictures maculinzing you cuz it happens to me so Im glad im not the only one.
I'd comment on how you look but I dont want your ego to get to big lol but sreiously, Im jelly. I dont get jelly often. Do you present female full-time. ya should. I do kinda. But somedays Im just blah. You seem hip I hope you become a long time member.
ooh, btw, i love your top! You fashion sense rocks. I got a couple off the shoulder tops that I wear with these purple holy capri jeans. that's right i rock pruple jeans and the boys really like it lol
Quote from: Joanna Dark on December 21, 2013, 08:33:18 PM
I hope you dont mind but i paraphrased what you said a couple days ago about pictures making you look masculine when in a mirror you look way more femme. I have the same problem. I look at myself in the mirror or in a reflection and I'm like wow, i really am kinda pretty (at least when I try; I never get sir'd when presenting female only when presenting as a bum). But I look at pictures and I'm like eww, WTF, Im hideous. HIDEOUS! I gots to do something bouts my hair tho. But I totally get the pictures maculinzing you cuz it happens to me so Im glad im not the only one.
I have that same problem. :\ I kinda think it's because the camera has much better 'vision' than I do. xD I'm sure if I blur the image slightly I'd see some improvement, lol. Lighting might be a factor too though.
Quote from: FalsePrincess on December 20, 2013, 06:29:18 PM
So I though I should post here too ^-^
2 pics ,one with a random t shirt and one with my average winter outfit
while these were taken i was 40 days on spiro and 10 days on e...
its wierd cause sometimes I feel like i pass and some like i dont,,,i also think i look more masculine in pics than when i look in the mirror (is there an explanation for this? am i the only one?)
be gentle with me :laugh:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2Fdnbxx56yr%2FSnapshot_20131220_3.jpg&hash=a3efe412c6ba9245b5cb5844cfd0149c3b5ca13a)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs28.postimg.org%2Fo5u0mpx1p%2FSnapshot_20131220_7.jpg&hash=fcb39ba3f8dd35031492450d35c60b10650aa07d)
so it's like why bother with HRT.
Quote from: FalsePrincess on December 21, 2013, 12:02:08 PMYou guys are sooo nice :)
It's not just an empty compliment, it's the truth. You're an extremely attractive woman. Be prepared to take the partner of your choosing :P
A little bit of harmless envy here, especially of your chin. I'm sooo self-concious of mine.
Quote from: Chloe Ceviche on December 20, 2013, 09:10:20 PM
I know I can't pass as female right now but I have a question about HRT I'm 35 as of a week ago and have acne scar's I have not taken hrt yet and am wondering if I in some way might be a little old and maybe it won't change much and I would need ffs. My wife thinks ill be ok but she lobes me and wouldnt want to hurt me anymore than i already am.Thank you for your time, I apologize if this is not the place for this. Forgive me I'm new.
Chloe, I started at 35 as well. I'm just now 36. There's several of 35+ Girls just getting started. There's also a host of late twenties and early thirties here. Both just starting and full time.
To be our age and just starting you look marvelous girl. Now don't forget to tell that wife of yours how marvelous she is to. ;)
Quote from: Chloe Ceviche on December 20, 2013, 09:10:20 PM
I know I can't pass as female right now but I have a question about HRT I'm 35 as of a week ago and have acne scar's I have not taken hrt yet and am wondering if I in some way might be a little old and maybe it won't change much and I would need ffs. My wife thinks ill be ok but she lobes me and wouldnt want to hurt me anymore than i already am.Thank you for your time, I apologize if this is not the place for this. Forgive me I'm new.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2F95752714%40N05%2F11473287576%2Fin%2Fphotostream%2F&hash=1002f00aaa84b648fc5197e051f039ee81857c7e)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/95752714@N05/11473287576/in/photostream/
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2F95752714%40N05%2F11473335303%2F&hash=860cccb5f69adf0ef9366b3bea1c1d257ef8a429)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/95752714@N05/11473335303/
Hope the pictures work.
Don't worry too much about the acne scars. There are various treatments. Anti-androgens actually can help with lessening the sebum production, which is closely related to chronic acne (all over the body).
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/acne-scars/AN01835
Quote from: Chloe Ceviche on December 20, 2013, 09:10:20 PM
I know I can't pass as female right now but I have a question about HRT I'm 35 as of a week ago and have acne scar's I have not taken hrt yet and am wondering if I in some way might be a little old and maybe it won't change much and I would need ffs. My wife thinks ill be ok but she lobes me and wouldnt want to hurt me anymore than i already am.Thank you for your time, I apologize if this is not the place for this. Forgive me I'm new.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2F95752714%40N05%2F11473287576%2Fin%2Fphotostream%2F&hash=1002f00aaa84b648fc5197e051f039ee81857c7e)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/95752714@N05/11473287576/in/photostream/
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2F95752714%40N05%2F11473335303%2F&hash=860cccb5f69adf0ef9366b3bea1c1d257ef8a429)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/95752714@N05/11473335303/
Hope the pictures work.
I think you'll do just fine, Chloe :)
Quote from: Joanna Dark on December 19, 2013, 04:08:01 PM
So Im nine months on HRT and three months on a regular dose, and when I first took this picture I thought I looked okay maybe even pretty. But now....ugh. Is it in my head? Do I need FFS just to be someone lese or do I actually look female? I havent posted here in awhile but I could use the advice. Thanks in advance for any replies and im not sensitive so if ya think im ugly or dont pass, say it.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1056.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft372%2Fdedalus3333%2Fohsoprettypretty_zps88138a66.jpg&hash=64223b13f6b688c6b6ff7fa22d2b7f0f7e6e602a) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/dedalus3333/media/ohsoprettypretty_zps88138a66.jpg.html)
In this picture you look 100% female to me. Especially your jawline and chin and your cheeks, you look like a woman in my eyes :)
Quote from: FalsePrincess on December 20, 2013, 06:29:18 PM
So I though I should post here too ^-^
2 pics ,one with a random t shirt and one with my average winter outfit
while these were taken i was 40 days on spiro and 10 days on e...
its wierd cause sometimes I feel like i pass and some like i dont,,,i also think i look more masculine in pics than when i look in the mirror (is there an explanation for this? am i the only one?)
be gentle with me :laugh:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2Fdnbxx56yr%2FSnapshot_20131220_3.jpg&hash=a3efe412c6ba9245b5cb5844cfd0149c3b5ca13a)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs28.postimg.org%2Fo5u0mpx1p%2FSnapshot_20131220_7.jpg&hash=fcb39ba3f8dd35031492450d35c60b10650aa07d)
Holy crap you're gorgeous!! Skip the andro you went straight to female 100% The mirror thing is so true though. I don't know if it's our minds seeing more familiarity in our own faces and seeing them differently, than seeing a photo that flattens our image and makes us look a little different. I believe it's probably a little bit of both, optics can be tricky I guess :P
Quote from: J on December 19, 2013, 12:56:40 AM
Hi, I'm new here... Turned 30 back in september *feeling a little old* :-\
Just started seeing psych today, hopefully I will get to start HRT in the near future, and really hoping Im not too old to start!!
Anyway, here is yours truly.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs9.postimg.org%2F4k84uk2lb%2FPhoto_on_31.jpg&hash=f3d6957c21c5fefe62ca346e0c07c4207b8e631b)
And one more "in drag" just for fun :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs23.postimg.org%2Fow9sqwa8b%2FPhoto_on_21_10_13_at_3_53_PM.jpg&hash=e4f64426c17ea1cb683c5b6105e474d964879f91)
First off you're not too old ;)
Second of all, another gorgeous girl!!
First picture I see Johnny Depp, second pic I see a super model!! You will making a stunning woman :icon_cool:
Alright, here's the 100% male me. Could I pass one day? Keep in mind I'm probably about 100 pounds overweight, decreasing slowly but surely. http://imgur.com/ImBRoQH
Edit: Thanks for the feedback everyone!! ;D
Quote from: w_inter on December 22, 2013, 04:34:47 PM
Alright, here's the 100% male me. Could I pass one day? Keep in mind I'm probably about 100 pounds overweight, decreasing slowly but surely. http://imgur.com/ImBRoQH
Yes you could, good plan shucking the weight, stick with it!
not much change from my last pics... but I added a nice HK bow... just missing the ears! (the bow was on a package of fancy strawberries ;) lol)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4xuLvbB.jpg&hash=776677d56d4f4a5a90fde81f9f47b01dfbc3b1a1)
Kabit, I want to see your rabbit ears! :D Looks like your hair is growing out nicely, and nice eyebrows, looks like you've been working on them too huh? Mine are so blonde I might as well not have any (sniff) :'(
Thanks! The hair is a little longer than the pic (due to elastic type head band ~ no idea if there's a word for those).
I am working on my eyebrows, but not too much for shape ~ I want to keep them medium-thin and clean for a while (though it would certainly help me be seen more as a girl ;))
I really want rabbit ears... the ones I want are super expensive though :( and I'm afraid anything else wouldn't be worth while!
Maybe I should learn to crochet some...
Quote from: w_inter on December 22, 2013, 04:34:47 PM
Could I pass one day?
I'm pretty sure you'd pass right now with shaving, eyebrow shaping, a little makeup and dealing with the beard
I've posted here a few times. Got nice compliments from all you girls and even you guys that travel over here time to time :)
I just came out to my parents so I'm now full time even though I've only been on HRT for 4 months.
So now I am really curious to hear some feedback on how passable I am. Also curious to know what FFS I may want to opt for.
I have a front, 3/4 view and a profile. Be honest, thank you :)
Front:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi145.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr227%2FThaliesin%2FHRT%2FIMG_20131222_155848_zps30a5f82b.jpg&hash=90d91e67167f0428f4a784b0365224be45b703b7)
3/4:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi145.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr227%2FThaliesin%2FHRT%2FIMG_20131222_155855_zpsc9594e43.jpg&hash=b58aff6f8ad9446111ff911f105352db85728cd0)
Profile:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi145.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr227%2FThaliesin%2FHRT%2FIMG_20131222_155906_zps5a5ef7bf.jpg&hash=7965695d74ea55571d72410784de955fab5532d9)
And this one is a NOT close up, to show how I look more in perspective and not so in your face (no pun intended lol)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi145.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr227%2FThaliesin%2FHRT%2FIMG_20131222_155821_zps11056037.jpg&hash=b34e435765d4d73fb8b2db53aeff5e2705326cce)
Quote from: Harlow on December 22, 2013, 06:55:38 PM
I've posted here a few times. Got nice compliments from all you girls and even you guys that travel over here time to time :)
I just came out to my parents so I'm now full time even though I've only been on HRT for 4 months.
So now I am really curious to hear some feedback on how passable I am. Also curious to know what FFS I may want to opt for.
I have a front, 3/4 view and a profile. Be honest, thank you :)
Front:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi145.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr227%2FThaliesin%2FHRT%2FIMG_20131222_155848_zps30a5f82b.jpg&hash=90d91e67167f0428f4a784b0365224be45b703b7)
3/4:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi145.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr227%2FThaliesin%2FHRT%2FIMG_20131222_155855_zpsc9594e43.jpg&hash=b58aff6f8ad9446111ff911f105352db85728cd0)
Profile:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi145.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr227%2FThaliesin%2FHRT%2FIMG_20131222_155906_zps5a5ef7bf.jpg&hash=7965695d74ea55571d72410784de955fab5532d9)
And this one is a NOT close up, to show how I look more in perspective and not so in your face (no pun intended lol)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi145.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr227%2FThaliesin%2FHRT%2FIMG_20131222_155821_zps11056037.jpg&hash=b34e435765d4d73fb8b2db53aeff5e2705326cce)
You have such beautiful eyes Harlow :) You look lovely girl!
Quote from: KabitTarah on December 22, 2013, 05:22:07 PM
not much change from my last pics... but I added a nice HK bow... just missing the ears! (the bow was on a package of fancy strawberries ;) lol)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4xuLvbB.jpg&hash=776677d56d4f4a5a90fde81f9f47b01dfbc3b1a1)
Tarah hunni, you look adorable! :) Just get some eyeliner and mascara on those pretty eyes of yours to bring them out more and continue growing your hair out. I don't think you're going to have too many issues with passing hun :)
<333Quote from: Harlow on December 22, 2013, 06:55:38 PM
I've posted here a few times. Got nice compliments from all you girls and even you guys that travel over here time to time :)
I just came out to my parents so I'm now full time even though I've only been on HRT for 4 months.
So now I am really curious to hear some feedback on how passable I am. Also curious to know what FFS I may want to opt for.
I have a front, 3/4 view and a profile. Be honest, thank you :)
Front:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi145.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr227%2FThaliesin%2FHRT%2FIMG_20131222_155848_zps30a5f82b.jpg&hash=90d91e67167f0428f4a784b0365224be45b703b7)
3/4:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi145.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr227%2FThaliesin%2FHRT%2FIMG_20131222_155855_zpsc9594e43.jpg&hash=b58aff6f8ad9446111ff911f105352db85728cd0)
Profile:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi145.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr227%2FThaliesin%2FHRT%2FIMG_20131222_155906_zps5a5ef7bf.jpg&hash=7965695d74ea55571d72410784de955fab5532d9)
And this one is a NOT close up, to show how I look more in perspective and not so in your face (no pun intended lol)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi145.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr227%2FThaliesin%2FHRT%2FIMG_20131222_155821_zps11056037.jpg&hash=b34e435765d4d73fb8b2db53aeff5e2705326cce)
Regarding FFS (as you asked specifically :P ), I'd say:
Eyes, nose + mouth = beautiful, don't touch those
Brow / Forehead = maybe a *TINY* tweak if you really feel the need, but don't go overboard because to be honest seems pretty passable as-is to me :) Your eyebrows (not FFS I know but still seems worth mentioning ;) ) actually look really nice and suit you well so don't go messing about with them too much.
Jaw / chin = I'd say this is your biggest giveaway to be honest with you hunni (no offence meant of course, just giving some constructive criticism). The angle of your jaw is actually quite nice and feminine, it's just a bit too low is all (not sure if FFS is able to fix that but if it can then that would be worth looking into in my completely unprofessional opinion). If you could only get one bit of FFS done though I'd have to say get some work done on your chin as it's quite noticeably manly I'm afraid to say hun :( Again no offence meant of course, just trying to help :)
<333Generally = Actually really passable and pretty hunni, and your eyes are definitely your best asset so that's a really good thing ;) Like I said your chin really is your only significant giveaway. Not sure what your intentions with your hair are, but I'd like to see it longer - somewhere around cheek-level and with more volume to it, and/or perhaps having it flick out at the ends. You have quite a long face so that will help in making your face look shorter / more rounded and should take the accent off your chin a bit I think :)
<333
Quote from: Harlow on December 22, 2013, 06:55:38 PM
I've posted here a few times. Got nice compliments from all you girls and even you guys that travel over here time to time :)
I just came out to my parents so I'm now full time even though I've only been on HRT for 4 months.
So now I am really curious to hear some feedback on how passable I am. Also curious to know what FFS I may want to opt for.
I have a front, 3/4 view and a profile. Be honest, thank you :)
Harlow,
You have a stunningly beautiful face, beautiful eyes and I love your brows. You have a very strong chin that is the only typically male feature on your head and you may want to address it eventually.
Quote from: KiraD on December 23, 2013, 06:17:01 AM
Tarah hunni, you look adorable! :) Just get some eyeliner and mascara on those pretty eyes of yours to bring them out more and continue growing your hair out. I don't think you're going to have too many issues with passing hun :) <333
Thanks Kira! I think the only thing I haven't done very much of is exploring makeup. I have touched a mascara brush to my eyelashes a time or two, but not a lot more than that. ♥
Quote from: Harlow on December 22, 2013, 06:55:38 PM
I've posted here a few times. Got nice compliments from all you girls and even you guys that travel over here time to time :)
I just came out to my parents so I'm now full time even though I've only been on HRT for 4 months.
So now I am really curious to hear some feedback on how passable I am. Also curious to know what FFS I may want to opt for.
I have a front, 3/4 view and a profile. Be honest, thank you
Front:
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3/4:
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Profile:
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And this one is a NOT close up, to show how I look more in perspective and not so in your face (no pun intended lol)
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your face is feminine from all angles. I think the side view is most feminine
I know I don't pass. Here it is anyways:
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Quote from: sunandmoon on December 23, 2013, 04:59:56 PM
I know I don't pass. Here it is anyways:
Pfft, grow your hair out and you'll be fine. :)
ashey is right , and besides hormones will help a lot.
Quote from: sunandmoon on December 23, 2013, 04:59:56 PMI know I don't pass. Here it is anyways:
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Your jaw, eyebrows, and nose are pretty darn great. Your chin could use some work as well as your forehead (esp. brow bossing) but I think you have an excellent starting point. Add some makeup, and poof! You're well on your way.
I've been on hormones for a long long time. I started out extremely masculine looking. People already barely recognize me. I'm super happy with how far i've come so far. Hopefully waiting on my hair will give me a chance to start voice work.
And yes I hate my forehead and hairline!
Quote from: FalsePrincess on December 23, 2013, 05:46:25 PM
ashey is right , and besides hormones will help a lot.
Quote from: sunandmoon on December 23, 2013, 05:54:20 PM
And yes I hate my forehead and hairline!
You and me both. Still, you've got a nice rounded face and those cheeks are filling out nicely. Also those big, unmissable eyes.
Quote from: sunandmoon on December 23, 2013, 05:54:20 PM
I've been on hormones for a long long time.
That doesn't surprise me at all! You've got those starry eyes :D
Thanks to everyone that posted I really appreciate it!
(Stephanie, Shantel, Kira & Bardoux :-* )
I am growing my hair out long, it's just taking it's time. By next Spring Summer it will be long enough to wear down. Right now I pin it up like a French twist because that is the most feminine style I can wear it right now.
Everyone made me feel really great pointing out my good features. And I'm really really happy most of you said all that needed work was my chin. I totally agree, I'm so glad that my jawline is feminine and my chin is the only thing to fix if I go that route!
It's so good to hear honest feedback from the community I belong to, to get real critique's. I'm just thrilled it's just one thing to worry about and not 3 + things! Also I've been looking at my Adam's apple and it's not even that noticeable another thing I don't have to worry about n_n
Harlow I totally agree,
you are beautiful :)
a chin surgery would be perfect I think
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I was on hormones for a couple months, but thanks to my awesome healthcare coverage, I've had to be off of them for a couple months. No makeup, totally guy mode. Just came back from a four hour lecture hall so I feel a bit gross. I guess sitting in the same chair for hours will do that to you. Also, didn't realize my phone was that dirty. lol.
that , that is not guy mode! :laugh:
do the world a favour and start hormones again , cause you look amazing :)
Quote from: AMDERS on December 24, 2013, 12:08:06 AM
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I was on hormones for a couple months, but thanks to my awesome healthcare coverage, I've had to be off of them for a couple months. No makeup, totally guy mode. Just came back from a four hour lecture hall so I feel a bit gross. I guess sitting in the same chair for hours will do that to you. Also, didn't realize my phone was that dirty. lol.
ya i don't think you pass as guy mode from appearance wise, if you have feminine mannerisms and voice you look like you would be a full pass, i had to double check you weren't FTM, cuz i thought you were
Quote from: KabitTarah on December 23, 2013, 10:58:28 AM
Thanks Kira! I think the only thing I haven't done very much of is exploring makeup. I have touched a mascara brush to my eyelashes a time or two, but not a lot more than that. ♥
You should hunni! Trust me, playing with makeup is one very easy way of making yourself feel really *REALLY* girly, even if no one else sees it for now ♥
I've been rather fortunate - having gotten involved in the alternative music scene way back when I was a teenager, I've had plenty of practice with eyeliner (or 'guyliner', if you want to call it that :P ) and applying lipstick, because no one bats an eyelid when a guy walks in to a VNV Nation gig wearing that kinda stuff! :laugh: It's only now though that I'm getting to play around with the more feminine stuff like primer/foundation, mascara and shadow. And trust me - it feels *AWSOME*! :laugh: You should definitely give it a go because I find it helps calm the dysphoria quite a bit at least for a while :)
<333Quote from: sunandmoon on December 23, 2013, 04:59:56 PM
I know I don't pass. Here it is anyways:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FqJgLjZU.jpg&hash=8cb05f57ccbf4e6846fb119680c6080deeb6e215)
To be honest with you hunni if I saw you on the street I would read you as a slightly butch girl rather than a feminine guy (imho that's a good thing :) ), and even then most of the masculinity would be down to your short hair rather than anything structural.
Grow your hair out, and get some makeup on (again, get some mascara on those beautiful eyes of yours ;) and also go for natural lipsticks (nothing vibrant or glossy - I don't think it'd look right on you :) )).
I can't see anything that would require FFS to be honest with you (at least not from this angle). Your jaw line looks perfect, your chin is androgynous (it's not especially feminine, but it doesn't look masculine to me either) so in an ideal world you may want to tweak it very *SLIGHTLY*, but in the real world if it were me I wouldn't bother going to the hassle and expense for such a minor thing which doesn't even give you away. Eyes, nose and mouth are *BEAUTIFUL*, don't you dare touch those with any surgery! :laugh: Eyebrows look good and really suit you :) Can't comment too much on the forehead from this angle, but nothing is especially jumping out :)
Quote from: Harlow on December 23, 2013, 08:57:22 PM
Thanks to everyone that posted I really appreciate it!
(Stephanie, Shantel, Kira & Bardoux :-* )
I am growing my hair out long, it's just taking it's time. By next Spring Summer it will be long enough to wear down. Right now I pin it up like a French twist because that is the most feminine style I can wear it right now.
Everyone made me feel really great pointing out my good features. And I'm really really happy most of you said all that needed work was my chin. I totally agree, I'm so glad that my jawline is feminine and my chin is the only thing to fix if I go that route!
It's so good to hear honest feedback from the community I belong to, to get real critique's. I'm just thrilled it's just one thing to worry about and not 3 + things! Also I've been looking at my Adam's apple and it's not even that noticeable another thing I don't have to worry about n_n
No worries hunni! Just glad you didn't take it the wrong way or anything :P
<333Regarding your Adam's Apple - I'll be honest I assumed you'd had it fixed already but I'm guessing not from that comment! :laugh: so yeh I don't think you need to worry about that either hun ;)
<333Quote from: AMDERS on December 24, 2013, 12:08:06 AM
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I was on hormones for a couple months, but thanks to my awesome healthcare coverage, I've had to be off of them for a couple months. No makeup, totally guy mode. Just came back from a four hour lecture hall so I feel a bit gross. I guess sitting in the same chair for hours will do that to you. Also, didn't realize my phone was that dirty. lol.
.. you call *THAT* 'guy mode'?? :icon_weirdface: omg some girls have all the luck!
*cries in the corner* :laugh:
<333
Btw: if anyone is wondering, yes I will get around to showing you all my pics at some point! I'm trying to clear up my god-awful skin first though because I don't want that on camera! >_< :P
<333
Quote from: AMDERS on December 24, 2013, 12:08:06 AM
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I was on hormones for a couple months, but thanks to my awesome healthcare coverage, I've had to be off of them for a couple months. No makeup, totally guy mode. Just came back from a four hour lecture hall so I feel a bit gross. I guess sitting in the same chair for hours will do that to you. Also, didn't realize my phone was that dirty. lol.
Thats your guy mode?...... *might as well hang myself right now* Babe you're gorgeous!!!!! Would kill to look that great!!!
Thank you all for the kind words and encouragement, I just picked up my Spiro and finastride last night.
Thank you all for the kind words. I'm starting up on HRT again shortly so I'm looking toward to that. Everyone else looks so beautiful as well. Have a wonderful night.
I think a more feminine haircut or style would help loads in your presentation, AMDERS.
Quote from: Willow on December 24, 2013, 07:35:34 PM
I think a more feminine haircut or style would help loads in your presentation, AMDERS.
I seriously wish I could, but I can't go too far as I'm waiting another year to go full time and can't afford any suspiciousness from my friends.
Hi, just a picture of how I look now without any HRT.
Any hope for me?
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Quote from: 930310 on December 25, 2013, 03:51:01 AM
Hi, just a picture of how I look now without any HRT.
Any hope for me?
I think you have a lot of feminine features to start with and HRT will further enhance those features :)
Thanks! :)
Any examples of which features are more/less feminine about my face?
I know that my eyebrows are very bushy...
They're not horrible.
I'd say forehead, and to somewhat of a degree your chin. It's not terribly pronounced, and I think it'd pass, but it's definitely something to check out.
I'd say that, when looking into FFS (if that's your plan) just a jawline and chin shave should suffice. Though I'd say you're probably looking at a type 3 forehead.
Of course, this is not coming from a plastic surgeon. When you're ready, if you want to at all, just some things to maybe keep in mind.
Just found it kinda funny that ever since I had vFFS done and did some looking into the forehead procedures, that I've been really conscious of other's foreheads, saying "oh, this needs type 1" or "this needs to go all the way, type 3"
Quote from: 930310 on December 25, 2013, 04:29:50 AM
Thanks! :)
Any examples of which features are more/less feminine about my face?
I know that my eyebrows are very bushy...
From that angle and lighting, I cannot see anything obviously male that stands out that needs correction that cannot be softened with HRT and hair removal. Nice lips, eyes and nose. I envisage a pretty girl.
Thank you everybody! ;D ;D
And Willow, I'll definitely look into the different types of foreheads!
hrt will help with that too
Ok, this is my first one with out a wig. I have hair extensions now. But do I look like a woman, or am I still too masculine?? Any make up suggestions?
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Quote from: Ксениа on December 26, 2013, 10:55:57 AM
Ok, this is my first one with out a wig. I have hair extensions now. But do I look like a woman, or am I still too masculine?? Any make up suggestions?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FIMG_20131225_120717_559.jpg&hash=01d2f82da3890a2e63933c12a4a5158736499fb7)
Woman, woman, woman! :)
Quote from: Ксениа on December 26, 2013, 10:55:57 AMOk, this is my first one with out a wig. I have hair extensions now. But do I look like a woman, or am I still too masculine?? Any make up suggestions?
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I think you look great, but at the same time, I think you could benefit from surgery, especially on the jaw and chin. Overall, though, I don't see too much masculinity at all in your face.
Quote from: Shantel on December 26, 2013, 11:02:06 AM
Woman, woman, woman! :)
Thank you Shantel. :)
Quote from: Willow on December 26, 2013, 11:02:25 AM
I think you look great, but at the same time, I think you could benefit from surgery, especially on the jaw and chin. Overall, though, I don't see too much masculinity at all in your face.
I agree, but I think maybe my nose is the biggest problem. But my chin a jaw is a problem too.
Quote from: J on December 26, 2013, 11:43:00 AM
One more try... couple of angles and some better lighting. Pre anything and not "done up" - obviously.
My main concerns are my hairline and nose... and to some extent my chin/jawline.
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There is nothing wrong with your chin and jawline, personally I can't see anything that would really require any facial surgery that can't be overcome with a nice hairstyle when you're ready. Other than that you are blessed with a lot of naturally feminine beauty.
Quote from: J on December 24, 2013, 08:34:43 AM
Thats your guy mode?...... *might as well hang myself right now* Babe you're gorgeous!!!!! Would kill to look that great!!!
I kno right D: I was very confused when I saw the pictures.
Quote from: Ксениа on December 26, 2013, 10:55:57 AM
Ok, this is my first one with out a wig. I have hair extensions now. But do I look like a woman, or am I still too masculine?? Any make up suggestions?
Wow, I was glancing over the thread, and saw your pic before I read the post- it took a moment to recognize you! What a difference your natural hair has made, w/extensions!
And as far as your jaw goes, I don't think there's any significant need for surgery. Many very attractive women seem to have a complementary masculine feature that ties in the rest. So yes, your jaw may be masculine, but I think it gives a very natural balance to your face. Now, you're just one of those attractive women! :)
Quote from: Dee on December 26, 2013, 12:57:43 PM
Wow, I was glancing over the thread, and saw your pic before I read the post- it took a moment to recognize you! What a difference your natural hair has made, w/extensions!
And as far as your jaw goes, I don't think there's any significant need for surgery. Many very attractive women seem to have a complementary masculine feature that ties in the rest. So yes, your jaw may be masculine, but I think it gives a very natural balance to your face. Now, you're just one of those attractive women! :)
Thank you very much. Im in kind of a scramble panicking because I want to go full time on new years and I am trying to be as ready as possible.
Quote from: Ксениа on December 26, 2013, 02:28:43 PM
Thank you very much. Im in kind of a scramble panicking because I want to go full time on new years and I am trying to be as ready as possible.
I think you'll do fine. I'm not planning FFS until after full time either.
Quote from: Ксениа on December 26, 2013, 02:28:43 PM
Thank you very much. Im in kind of a scramble panicking because I want to go full time on new years and I am trying to be as ready as possible.
Well, if you're concerned your appearance is holding you back, I think you can relax! I've found that successfully transitioning to full-time is all about being comfortable with yourself, and it cannot be overstated that others will pick up on this. This new picture of you, without your wig, looks very natural and relaxed. You seem very ready!
Now, go on, go to "You Look Fabulous" if you haven't already, blah blah, you're pretty, blah blah :P
Do you think I could pass I just started hormones. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi836.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz289%2Fnms867%2F20131223_171632_zpscf1c9cb1.jpg&hash=b244ba47278980fff309003692c12f26f6069c94)
Quote from: Ксениа on December 26, 2013, 10:55:57 AM
Ok, this is my first one with out a wig. I have hair extensions now. But do I look like a woman, or am I still too masculine?? Any make up suggestions?
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I love your hair!!! Almost exactly the same color as mine... but yours looks nicer for sure (maybe the HRT helps?)
Me, completely natural, no makeup, fresh from the shower and into clothes.
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and me at the laundry place.
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and me on my way out the door to go to work
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Sometimes I pass easily, sometimes I don't pass very well at all, no matter how hard i try, passing is come and go for me. Opinions, or what do ya'll think?
Quote from: Ксениа on December 26, 2013, 10:55:57 AM
Ok, this is my first one with out a wig. I have hair extensions now. But do I look like a woman, or am I still too masculine?? Any make up suggestions?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FIMG_20131225_120717_559.jpg&hash=01d2f82da3890a2e63933c12a4a5158736499fb7)
wow you strangely look more passable with your natural hair, i think wigs usually throw out flags when they are obvious, but you look really passable i think, how long is your hair right now without extensions?
Quote from: Ксениа on December 26, 2013, 10:55:57 AM
Ok, this is my first one with out a wig. I have hair extensions now. But do I look like a woman, or am I still too masculine?? Any make up suggestions?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FIMG_20131225_120717_559.jpg&hash=01d2f82da3890a2e63933c12a4a5158736499fb7)
Masculine?!?!
Ya gotta be freaking kidding me pffft.
Foxy lady alert: Please direct all further correspondences to the fabulous thread!
Looking great, Ксениа :D
Quote from: Jennygirl on December 26, 2013, 09:19:48 PM
Masculine?!?!
Ya gotta be freaking kidding me pffft.
Foxy lady alert: Please direct all further correspondences to the fabulous thread!
Looking great, Ксениа :D
You're right, and there's something all-around different and more polished in this pic than the previous ones. I just can't quite pin it on any one thing but the lack of wig is more impressive.
Quote from: sunandmoon on December 23, 2013, 04:59:56 PM
I know I don't pass. Here it is anyways:
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You remind me of a woman who I used to jam with at the Wild Side West. But smile!
Quote from: dualk87 on December 26, 2013, 03:54:21 PM
Do you think I could pass I just started hormones. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi836.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz289%2Fnms867%2F20131223_171632_zpscf1c9cb1.jpg&hash=b244ba47278980fff309003692c12f26f6069c94)
Yes I think you can pass, you look nearly exactly like an old friend of mine(haven't hung out in some time). She apparently had a slight crush on me but had to tell me she did as I never picked up on it......A very long lasting problem I have lol.
Quote from: Dee on December 26, 2013, 02:45:49 PM
Well, if you're concerned your appearance is holding you back, I think you can relax! I've found that successfully transitioning to full-time is all about being comfortable with yourself, and it cannot be overstated that others will pick up on this. This new picture of you, without your wig, looks very natural and relaxed. You seem very ready!
Now, go on, go to "You Look Fabulous" if you haven't already, blah blah, you're pretty, blah blah :P
Thank you. :) I have been told by a lot of my close friends that it is the confidence that matter here, if you are not confident, people will pick up on the signs.
Quote from: KabitTarah on December 26, 2013, 04:34:07 PM
I love your hair!!! Almost exactly the same color as mine... but yours looks nicer for sure (maybe the HRT helps?)
I am not sure if the HRT helps the hair or not.
Quote from: kiaraja on December 26, 2013, 08:45:09 PM
wow you strangely look more passable with your natural hair, i think wigs usually throw out flags when they are obvious, but you look really passable i think, how long is your hair right now without extensions?
My hair is like 8 inches right now. People kept telling me before they couldnt tell it was a wig. But I like the extensions better because my head wont itch.
Quote from: Jennygirl on December 26, 2013, 09:19:48 PM
Masculine?!?!
Ya gotta be freaking kidding me pffft.
Foxy lady alert: Please direct all further correspondences to the fabulous thread!
Looking great, Ксениа :D
Jenny, thank you very very much. You always get me to laugh and smile. :)
Quote from: Violet Bloom on December 26, 2013, 09:28:08 PM
You're right, and there's something all-around different and more polished in this pic than the previous ones. I just can't quite pin it on any one thing but the lack of wig is more impressive.
Is it because you can see the scalp and hair line that it looks real?
To everyone, thank all of ya'll so very much. I feel more confident from hearing from you, and I know for sure that full time starts on new years. :) Love ya'll and have a lovely time this holiday season. :)
Quote from: Ксениа on December 26, 2013, 10:55:57 AM
Ok, this is my first one with out a wig. I have hair extensions now. But do I look like a woman, or am I still too masculine?? Any make up suggestions?
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*purrs and snuggles furiously* rrrrawr! Hunni you don't just pass - you're downright *ATTRACTIVE*! In fact.. could I possibly has your number??
*smiles innocently and flutters eyelashes* ;D
xXxXxAs the others said, you've got some subtle masculinity to you, but because it's complimentary rather than conflicting, it only makes you look prettier and more feminine. You look like a strong girl who knows what she want's ;)
Surgery-wise: Honestly don't see anything in this pic that I'd even tweak ;)
Makeup-wise: Whatever you're doing here hunni - keep doing it! Keep the makeup subtle and natural-looking because it clearly suits you :) Your eyes and lips are absolutely beautiful and any makeup you have on them in this pick is done perfectly (and if you don't have any (it's actually hard to tell) then - woooooow!
<333 *fans self* ;D ).
Hair-wise: I'd say this brunette style suits you way more than the blonde style you've got in your avatar pic. It brings out your eyes much more and the squareness it gives to your face goes back to what was said before about complimentary masculinity. All I would say is maybe just bring the top of it away from your head very slightly (as in - pull it forward, rather than upwards, otherwise you'll end up with the M shape and that will look too masculine) so it doesn't look quite so flat against your face, but be careful not to make your forehead look any bigger in the process or loose that square shape to your face :)
So err.. yeh! Those would be my comments :P And sorry for being kinda flirty and inappropriate, but that pic just kinda got my heart racing! RRRRAWR! :-* ;D
*continues flirting inappropriately with Ксениа* ..whaaaaat?? I can't help being lesbien, ok?! :laugh:
xXx <333
Most umop-apisdn people read more male they like.
Quote from: Ксениа on December 26, 2013, 10:55:57 AM
Ok, this is my first one with out a wig. I have hair extensions now. But do I look like a woman, or am I still too masculine?? Any make up suggestions?
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I thought you were kidding around at first. Haven't the slightest idea why you think you look male
Quote from: Ксениа on December 27, 2013, 06:45:40 AM
My hair is like 8 inches right now. People kept telling me before they couldnt tell it was a wig. But I like the extensions better because my head wont itch.
what kind of extensions are they, i got the luxy hair extensions but they pull on my hair and i felt like i had a bunch of clips in my hair that really pulled on my hair and hurt
Quote from: kiaraja on December 27, 2013, 11:26:20 AMwhat kind of extensions are they, i got the luxy hair extensions but they pull on my hair and i felt like i had a bunch of clips in my hair that really pulled on my hair and hurt
I don't even know how to use, or even buy extensions, but I know I need some.
Quote from: L G on December 27, 2013, 10:20:01 AM
Pre Everything pictures but I guess I am doing this because I am gauging what I would need to work on or figure out what sticks out greatly. Obvious things, eyebrows. Jawline and other things are a complete mystery to me.
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I Just have a few coments of your potential.
You have nice cheek bones allready and I'm sure they will pop out nicely to sculpt you a feminin face with HRT.
Your features are soft even thoug your jaw may be a bit wide (but not too square from the front, and from the side it could be hidden with your hair if you find it to be a problem), but that hasn't stopped manny girls from turning out to be the bomb.
If you learn to pluck your eyebrows nice i think they will get a nice shape and there will hardly be any need to fill them in in my oppinion as they allready look like they are.
Also, your lips. A good thing there, totally nice.
I think you will come out fine in the end.
*EDIT*
You allso seem to be blessed with no adams apple.
Quote from: kiaraja on December 27, 2013, 11:26:20 AM
what kind of extensions are they, i got the luxy hair extensions but they pull on my hair and i felt like i had a bunch of clips in my hair that really pulled on my hair and hurt
Quote from: Robin_Particle on December 27, 2013, 10:41:49 AM
Most umop-apisdn people read more male they like.
I went to the mall where a friend of a friend of a friend works and got them. I got two boxes for 300 dollars when they were supposed to be 550 a piece and 1100 for both. seems steep but that is what the box says. This is the brand I got is called, PYT or Pretty Young Thing. Website, http://www.pythair.com/ (http://www.pythair.com/)
Quote from: Willow on December 27, 2013, 12:11:57 PM
I don't even know how to use, or even buy extensions, but I know I need some.
I wasnt kidding, just nit picking. But I see now I am the most critical judge for me apparently
Quote from: eloij on December 27, 2013, 05:31:01 PM
I Just have a few coments of your potential.
You have nice cheek bones allready and I'm sure they will pop out nicely to sculpt you a feminin face with HRT.
Your features are soft even thoug your jaw may be a bit wide (but not too square from the front, and from the side it could be hidden with your hair if you find it to be a problem), but that hasn't stopped manny girls from turning out to be the bomb.
If you learn to pluck your eyebrows nice i think they will get a nice shape and there will hardly be any need to fill them in in my oppinion as they allready look like they are.
Also, your lips. A good thing there, totally nice.
I think you will come out fine in the end.
*EDIT*
You allso seem to be blessed with no adams apple.
I couldn't say it better or agree more. :)
Quote from: dualk87 on December 26, 2013, 03:54:21 PM
Do you think I could pass I just started hormones.
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If you are worried about whether, in time, you could pass as female, just look at the "Before & After" topic in this forum. I am convinced that HRT, presentation, and surgery can feminize anyone.
But just take a self-inventory. What are your outward masculine "tells"?
Haircut
Eyebrows
Lack of boobage
Skeletal structure(?)
Craniofacial features(?)
What can you do now, and what is on your "roadmap"?
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on December 29, 2013, 11:21:24 AM
Hey girls! I am in need for some constructive criticism as I am trying to muster up courage and start going out. Since I will be on my own and this is kinda mostly safe neighborhood (but things can go wrong at times), so I wanted to make it as safe as possible. So, what do You see and what could be improved? I am looking at those pics (and again, apologies for pool quality, but I DO suck at making pics...) and something is putting me off. But I cant really get a grip on what specifically I dont like here (maybe its my face, lack of bewbs? or that everything is black - yep, it really is, but I will be walking after twilight anyway). So, here I go! And please, dont be nice - I need to get as honest and hurtful opinions as You all can dish out!
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I see a darling European woman properly and attractively attired for winter weather. You will be just fine Emily, you're looking good hon!
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Finally had a day where I won't be running into a lot of people so decided to do some make-up and take a picture. Haven't started HRT or anything yet, but I do have my first laser removal tomorrow! Didn't want to show my short hair waiting on a wig I ordered.
Hay girls!
Like Emily before me I'm going out soon, in fact I'm planning on going to the Edinburgh Hogmanay street party with a friend. Now, the Scottish propensity for drinking will help me pass, but I'm not sure how else I can work it to make sure? Any feedback at all would be helpful please...
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Emily: Like you I have the lack of boobs issue, but I will be wearing a little padding to help me pass - black isn't really good to take a photo in but it's all I like! I like your coat, it does well to widen your hips. Maybe a little makeup too?
*Edit* A friend of my wife advised me to lighten the outfit up with a bright bag, so it's not too dark. Might be worth a thought for you as well?
You look very passable to me Sandra. You remind me of a cis woman I know. Very lovely.
Quote from: Sandra_Dickinson on December 29, 2013, 02:31:25 PM
Hay girls!
Like Emily before me I'm going out soon, in fact I'm planning on going to the Edinburgh Hogmanay street party with a friend. Now, the Scottish propensity for drinking will help me pass, but I'm not sure how else I can work it to make sure? Any feedback at all would be helpful please...
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Emily: Like you I have the lack of boobs issue, but I will be wearing a little padding to help me pass - black isn't really good to take a photo in but it's all I like! I like your coat, it does well to widen your hips. Maybe a little makeup too?
*Edit* A friend of my wife advised me to lighten the outfit up with a bright bag, so it's not too dark. Might be worth a thought for you as well?
Quote from: Sandra_Dickinson on December 29, 2013, 02:31:25 PM
Hay girls!
Like Emily before me I'm going out soon, in fact I'm planning on going to the Edinburgh Hogmanay street party with a friend. Now, the Scottish propensity for drinking will help me pass, but I'm not sure how else I can work it to make sure? Any feedback at all would be helpful please...
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Emily: Like you I have the lack of boobs issue, but I will be wearing a little padding to help me pass - black isn't really good to take a photo in but it's all I like! I like your coat, it does well to widen your hips. Maybe a little makeup too?
*Edit* A friend of my wife advised me to lighten the outfit up with a bright bag, so it's not too dark. Might be worth a thought for you as well?
Boobs isn't a problem for you Sandra, so many slender cis women also use a little padding and so what? You look mighty feminine and attractive just as you are, so go, be yourself and enjoy!
Quote from: KittyKat on December 29, 2013, 02:29:41 PM
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Finally had a day where I won't be running into a lot of people so decided to do some make-up and take a picture. Haven't started HRT or anything yet, but I do have my first laser removal tomorrow! Didn't want to show my short hair waiting on a wig I ordered.
Have fun with the laser, Even one session makes a world of difference. IT has helped me almost as much as HRT and helped me being able to pass greatly. :)
I was thinking of presenting more feminine in public but i am really concerned by how may electrolysis is going. I can't shave in between sessions and the last session has left the skin darkened leaving the illusion of a beard shadow...
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Quote from: Bardoux on December 29, 2013, 05:58:02 PM
I was thinking of presenting more feminine in public but i am really concerned by how may electrolysis is going. I can't shave in between sessions and the last session has left the skin darkened leaving the illusion of a beard shadow...
Honestly, I'm not seeing the shadow. I legitimately see no barrier to presentation.
Quote from: Bardoux on December 29, 2013, 05:58:02 PM
I was thinking of presenting more feminine in public but i am really concerned by how may electrolysis is going. I can't shave in between sessions and the last session has left the skin darkened leaving the illusion of a beard shadow...
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I see nothing, you look good
Quote from: Bardoux on December 29, 2013, 05:58:02 PM
I was thinking of presenting more feminine in public but i am really concerned by how may electrolysis is going. I can't shave in between sessions and the last session has left the skin darkened leaving the illusion of a beard shadow...
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I'm not seeing the facial hair shadow either. But, your presentation is already on the feminine side.
You are going to be fine Bardoux. Happy New Year. :)
Quote from: Bardoux on December 29, 2013, 05:58:02 PM
I was thinking of presenting more feminine in public but i am really concerned by how may electrolysis is going. I can't shave in between sessions and the last session has left the skin darkened leaving the illusion of a beard shadow...
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You will be fine. I am already not seeing a masculine face there. :)
I've started building up my wardrobe, which has been fun. I've also started working on my makeup applying skills. Never realized until now just how difficult it is to put on eyeliner lol Still gotta work on that. Pre-everything by the way. Also, I just realized how dirty that mirror is. Oh well ;D
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Ah sorry i meant a redness on my upper lip. I phoned my electrolygist today and she said it's most likely the skin trying to push out hair follicles. Brings me down though as i worry a lot about most thiings and drives me nuts when i don't have any control over these type of things.
Thank you all for replying and have a happy new year xx
Quote from: Caitlyn on December 30, 2013, 12:55:44 AM
I've started building up my wardrobe, which has been fun. I've also started working on my makeup applying skills. Never realized until now just how difficult it is to put on eyeliner lol Still gotta work on that. Pre-everything by the way. Also, I just realized how dirty that mirror is. Oh well ;D
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Caitlyn, I think that your face will be just fine. Before I took hormones, I had a more masculine face than you. You pretty much already have an oval face and with hormones, your chin and jaw wont be as defined and will soften up and I believe you will be lovely. Just how i see it. :) In the pictures, you skin looks good, but with the hormones, your skin complexion will change and that will help to.
Happy Holidays!
Thanks! I'm still working on outfits to wear on the night, starting to get a little apprehensive about it - first time out! It also won't stop raining here, not good when I want to curl my hair :p
Quote from: Sandra_Dickinson on December 30, 2013, 05:31:56 AM
Thanks! I'm still working on outfits to wear on the night, starting to get a little apprehensive about it - first time out! It also won't stop raining here, not good when I want to curl my hair :p
You look great in your profile picture. Should be fine going out. I have the same problem with the rain. I have super curly hair that I straighten, and I have strait hair extensions in...... not a good mix
Sooo...yeah. These are being taken way early in the morning. I have the worst body known to man, I know lol. Currently working on my weight, lost a lot but a lot hasn't cut it quite yet. Those shoulders..;_;
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Ксениа: Thanks x your picture is prettier and more honest - selective lighting in mine to hide the facial wrinkles...
Lavender: I think you look lovely. Your shoulders are a little big for your hips, but you have the chest to distract people with! Google 'inverse body triangle' and you'll find pages of hints X
Okie doke loke. Thank you ^_^"...always hated those things. I do have a chest I guess though xD will have more the day I start HRT.
Quote from: Lavender on December 30, 2013, 07:00:55 AM
Okie doke loke. Thank you ^_^"...always hated those things. I do have a chest I guess though xD will have more the day I start HRT.
Oh wow i thought you already started! You have a very nice base to build from, very round, soft features.
First picture is pre everything with eyeshadow/eyeliner. Second is guy mode from a few days ago at work - bleh.. Third was also a few days ago, eyeshadow/eyeliner one month after low dose HRT. I am slowly building my wardrobe, as money is tight with a slow work season. Desperately saving for electrolysis.
~Jessica
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Quote from: Feyru on December 30, 2013, 12:34:33 PM
First picture is pre everything with eyeshadow/eyeliner. Second is guy mode from a few days ago at work - bleh.. Third was also a few days ago, eyeshadow/eyeliner one month after low dose HRT. I am slowly building my wardrobe, as money is tight with a slow work season. Desperately saving for electrolysis.
~Jessica
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So pretty! I absolutely love your hair :)
I am used to presenting androgynously in general (still male), but I'd like to start presenting as female when going to actual trans-specific activities. I used to, a long time ago, pass as female without make up. Here are my most recent pictures from a few weeks ago without make up, etc. I still see "male" when I look at these pics (probably because in them I'm not doing anything specific to present as female). What else should I do to pass?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi885.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac58%2Fautumnrain80%2FSnapshot_20131124_10_zps0e5dcf9a.jpg&hash=d685625b52a68be3c588c9cdb3464b57d05771d9) (http://s885.photobucket.com/user/autumnrain80/media/Snapshot_20131124_10_zps0e5dcf9a.jpg.html)
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Are you on HRT yet, Kate? If not, I think it'll soften up your jawline, which to me, is really the only leftover masculine trait in your face.
Have you tried bronzer on your jawline? I know it does wonders for mine.
Quote from: Willow on December 30, 2013, 02:37:56 PM
Are you on HRT yet, Kate? If not, I think it'll soften up your jawline, which to me, is really the only leftover masculine trait in your face.
Have you tried bronzer on your jawline? I know it does wonders for mine.
I cannot take hormones so my jawline is my jawline. I don't know how to use makeup really and never had. Any tips with the bronzer you are talking about?
Quote from: Just Kate on December 30, 2013, 02:43:48 PMI cannot take hormones so my jawline is my jawline. I don't know how to use makeup really and never had. Any tips with the bronzer you are talking about?
Brush it along the jawline and lower cheek. Do NOT put it on the upper cheek or your chin; it makes them look really big and unnatural.
Quote from: Feyru on December 30, 2013, 12:34:33 PM
First picture is pre everything with eyeshadow/eyeliner. Second is guy mode from a few days ago at work - bleh.. Third was also a few days ago, eyeshadow/eyeliner one month after low dose HRT. I am slowly building my wardrobe, as money is tight with a slow work season. Desperately saving for electrolysis.
~Jessica
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You look great, I really really love the last one
Quote from: Feyru on December 30, 2013, 12:34:33 PM
First picture is pre everything with eyeshadow/eyeliner. Second is guy mode from a few days ago at work - bleh.. Third was also a few days ago, eyeshadow/eyeliner one month after low dose HRT. I am slowly building my wardrobe, as money is tight with a slow work season. Desperately saving for electrolysis.
~Jessica
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRxNdxUg.jpg&hash=02e2dc80159320a626090302006f581752237b63)
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you look like your on the more female side of transition, i have to say i love your hair, its exactly like mine!!!
Hi girls :) this forum (and this topic) has been a big inspiration for me so I wanted to ask for your thoughts on my chances on transitioning (after having thought over and over whether I should post my face online). Here's two pics of me with some eyeliner and highlighter, the profile and one from the front. Pre-everything. Happy that my webcam has such a low quality lol.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FHJ1C7g6.jpg&hash=ec43a8f692ad08f68e72d2e57bf566d1faae9374)
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In your experience, how much should I expect from HRT and is it likely I'll have to do FFS? Any tips pre-transition? (e.g. what the heck should I do with my hair)
Quote from: tuuliu on December 30, 2013, 04:02:56 PM
In your experience, how much should I expect from HRT and is it likely I'll have to do FFS? Any tips pre-transition? (e.g. what the heck should I do with my hair)
What should you do with your hair? Leave it as it! It's gorgeous! :)
FFS? Reducing your brow would likely improve things, but honestly, I think you look great for pre-everything!
Quote from: tuuliu on December 30, 2013, 04:02:56 PM
Hi girls :) this forum (and this topic) has been a big inspiration for me so I wanted to ask for your thoughts on my chances on transitioning (after having thought over and over whether I should post my face online). Here's two pics of me with some eyeliner and highlighter, the profile and one from the front. Pre-everything. Happy that my webcam has such a low quality lol.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FHJ1C7g6.jpg&hash=ec43a8f692ad08f68e72d2e57bf566d1faae9374)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3juXmjI.jpg&hash=bcb21bb66ca8bf990eada8c68454cacb83993e60)
In your experience, how much should I expect from HRT and is it likely I'll have to do FFS? Any tips pre-transition? (e.g. what the heck should I do with my hair)
your face has a natural femininity to it. HRT will bring it out quite well
Quote from: Lavender on December 30, 2013, 06:29:50 AM
Sooo...yeah. These are being taken way early in the morning. I have the worst body known to man, I know lol. Currently working on my weight, lost a lot but a lot hasn't cut it quite yet. Those shoulders..;_;
You have a very feminine face to begin with. :D
Quote from: Gwynne on December 30, 2013, 06:38:47 PM
You have a very feminine face to begin with. :D
Quote from: Bardoux on December 30, 2013, 07:43:37 AM
Oh wow i thought you already started! You have a very nice base to build from, very round, soft features.
Thank you very much! I seriously needed those little bits of a confidence boost. I wasn't gonna reply cause I don't wana take away too much from other people, and I really dunno what I'm talking about, but yay <3
Quote from: tuuliu on December 30, 2013, 04:02:56 PM
In your experience, how much should I expect from HRT and is it likely I'll have to do FFS? Any tips pre-transition? (e.g. what the heck should I do with my hair)
Hi tuuliu, I think you look really pretty already. Your lips especially look very femme to me. :)
Your hairs looks good right now, it's long and seems to have a slight natural curl at the bottom, but I'd suggest trying a different part. Having it parted at the far right side of your head accentuates the typical masculine type of hairline. See if parting it right down the middle hides the hairline.
Good luck on your transition.
Quote from: Feyru on December 30, 2013, 12:34:33 PM
First picture is pre everything with eyeshadow/eyeliner. Second is guy mode from a few days ago at work - bleh.. Third was also a few days ago, eyeshadow/eyeliner one month after low dose HRT. I am slowly building my wardrobe, as money is tight with a slow work season. Desperately saving for electrolysis.
~Jessica
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRxNdxUg.jpg&hash=02e2dc80159320a626090302006f581752237b63)
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#2 is guy mode? Just barely.
Quote from: Lavender on December 30, 2013, 06:29:50 AM
Sooo...yeah. These are being taken way early in the morning. I have the worst body known to man, I know lol. Currently working on my weight, lost a lot but a lot hasn't cut it quite yet. Those shoulders..;_;
http://postimg.org/image/4b0emyvjl/
http://postimg.org/image/c5sidah4j/
Jealous of curls.
Quote from: Feyru on December 30, 2013, 12:34:33 PM
First picture is pre everything with eyeshadow/eyeliner. Second is guy mode from a few days ago at work - bleh.. Third was also a few days ago, eyeshadow/eyeliner one month after low dose HRT. I am slowly building my wardrobe, as money is tight with a slow work season. Desperately saving for electrolysis.
~Jessica
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRxNdxUg.jpg&hash=02e2dc80159320a626090302006f581752237b63)
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Your very cute! Looking fantastic after one month
Caitlyn - I have off and on days with my hair. Sometimes it works with me instead of against me, still looking for the right shampoo/conditioner and going for more length to. I can't decide if I want to get it styled now or wait till it is closer to the length I want. I like your bangs way more than mine haha. You look great pre HRT and HRT should do wonders for you, just give it time.
Kasi - Thanks for the comment! I cheated a little in the last picture with the angle, made most of the dude-ness go away. I feel pictures normally do great injustice to my face. Always excited when you post new picks, amazing to see where you came from and how amazing you look now!
Kiara - I still struggle to see who I really am when I look in the mirror, makeup helps a ton though. I am really jealous how beautiful you are :P, how long have you been on HRT?
Jamie - Happy someone can see me looking hardly male while in guy mode. Really pining to have the male-fail happen sooner than later.
Bardoux - HRT has to be the best thing I have decided to pursue, I am sure we can all share that feeling. I just have to remind myself that it all takes time, there are 20 some years of testosterone damage to work on. On you deciding to present female in public - I think you male-fail pretty well.
this is me sans makeup. Do I look or pass female. Last week, I was sir'd to death. This week, guys keep saying hi and everyone genders me female. So...do I look like a man? Last week really nuked my self confidence but I want the truth. Do I pass? I aint sensitive.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1056.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft372%2Fdedalus3333%2FCIMG7143_zps3ffae2a5.jpg&hash=f7b8d5ff3e98eb25090f0240daad1b3261a2cd4d) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/dedalus3333/media/CIMG7143_zps3ffae2a5.jpg.html)
I really dont see a guy in your pic joanna...
Just got my wig I ordered so I did my make up and took some pictures.
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Quote from: FalsePrincess on December 31, 2013, 03:44:43 PM
I really dont see a guy in your pic joanna...
thanks so much. I don't care about being pretty, ok I do, I long to be jus a lil pretty. But mainly I just waant to look female and not like a guy. Ever. Hence the sans makeup no smiling pic.
Quote from: Joanna Dark on December 31, 2013, 03:43:45 PM
this is me sans makeup. Do I look or pass female. Last week, I was sir'd to death. This week, guys keep saying hi and everyone genders me female. So...do I look like a man? Last week really nuked my self confidence but I want the truth. Do I pass? I aint sensitive.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1056.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft372%2Fdedalus3333%2FCIMG7143_zps3ffae2a5.jpg&hash=f7b8d5ff3e98eb25090f0240daad1b3261a2cd4d) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/dedalus3333/media/CIMG7143_zps3ffae2a5.jpg.html)
Are you auditioning for Avatar II? I noticed some weight loss in some recent photos of yours. I like your previous weight as this added feminine curves to your face. You look female in this photos, with said lighting and pose.
yeah I have loss weight prolly 7 to 10 lbs and I'm trying to gain it back but I can't. I eat too. I'm like 125 now and want to be 135. Weird thing is my thighs have ballooned.
Quote from: Feyru on December 31, 2013, 03:36:17 PM
Caitlyn - I have off and on days with my hair. Sometimes it works with me instead of against me, still looking for the right shampoo/conditioner and going for more length to. I can't decide if I want to get it styled now or wait till it is closer to the length I want. I like your bangs way more than mine haha. You look great pre HRT and HRT should do wonders for you, just give it time.
Kasi - Thanks for the comment! I cheated a little in the last picture with the angle, made most of the dude-ness go away. I feel pictures normally do great injustice to my face. Always excited when you post new picks, amazing to see where you came from and how amazing you look now!
Kiara - I still struggle to see who I really am when I look in the mirror, makeup helps a ton though. I am really jealous how beautiful you are :P, how long have you been on HRT?
Jamie - Happy someone can see me looking hardly male while in guy mode. Really pining to have the male-fail happen sooner than later.
Bardoux - HRT has to be the best thing I have decided to pursue, I am sure we can all share that feeling. I just have to remind myself that it all takes time, there are 20 some years of testosterone damage to work on. On you deciding to present female in public - I think you male-fail pretty well.
ive been on hrt since april 29th so 8 months and 2 days lol, i really got a lucky picture there for my avatar, i don't really look that beautiful, and as weird as it sounds i wish i was that beautiful all the time, then i wouldn't be so scared to go full time
Jessica - I love the 3rd picture Awesome. You have a nice face and I expect to see you in the fab section in a year or so
Joanna - I don't know I think you look great and agree with the couple extra pounds comment. I'm 5'8" and can't get under 160 and you can't seem to reach 140 you must have some awesome metabolism. Ya skinny runt LoL :-)
Seriously though also I feel your pain on that pass/no pass issue. The same places and the same people. Some days I get a ma'am and some days nothing. Different places people have said Sir from a distance and I try to brush it off but it really hurts when we try so hard. Then there was last weekend shopping for work clothes with my s/o and the woman at the checkout asked for my ID to use my card and she was like Is this You. That made me blush and I was like yeah I need to get a new license soon :-)
So if anyone knows the secret to consistently passing Please Share. We'd be much obliged.
KittyKat - I think that style of hair suits you. It looks great to me
Feyru- I adore your smile in the last picture, SOOO ADORABLE OMG <3 <3 you are sucha cutie!!!!
Lavender- I think you look great, and your shoulders did not stand out to me at all. can't believe you are pre everything, you are very pretty :)
Joanna- I like that picture a lot, deff looks female to me. And you do have prettiness to you, so you needn't worry about that!
Kittykat- Love your smile in the first pic! you look so happy <3 you are quite the cutie!
Hi everyone! I've been following this community for a while now. I'm from a very small town: Outjo, Namibia. (It's in Africa for those of you who don't know ;D)
This is my first post because I'm actually pretty scared because I've never asked anyone to comment on my looks, partly because I never loved me in the male form. But just recently I moved out of my parents home and I finally had the chance to experiment with my 'other side' and boy did I love it. So here it goes. This is a picture of how I look in the female form:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1327.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu668%2Fdivineshadow208%2FTransformation2012-2013_zpsc801f2ec.jpg&hash=e0f39c78a536e49a7afe330daa399a80baf0544a) (http://s1327.photobucket.com/user/divineshadow208/media/Transformation2012-2013_zpsc801f2ec.jpg.html)
Just bare in mind that it was the first time I tried make-up and I obviously am wearing a very cheap wig. So please, honestly, tell me what you think. Will I be able to pass as a female in puclic? I am absolutley inlove with myself for the first time in my life and to me I look stunning! The best part is I haven't even started HRT becuase I'm struggling to find a place in my country or South Africa that can do the procedure. If any of you happen to know of a place in Africa, pleasssssse let me know.
I am very lonely here because I've never met another transgender person in my life and EVERYONE here still sees transexuality and homosexuality as an absolute sin.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1327.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu668%2Fdivineshadow208%2FUpload_zpsd308bde4.jpg&hash=9f7be2e9e690c4067867f4271ab49a2cc08b8af0) (http://s1327.photobucket.com/user/divineshadow208/media/Upload_zpsd308bde4.jpg.html)
Why are you scared? you look gorgeous.. seriously..
nicely done girl..
Quote from: Joanna Dark on December 31, 2013, 03:43:45 PM
this is me sans makeup. Do I look or pass female. Last week, I was sir'd to death. This week, guys keep saying hi and everyone genders me female. So...do I look like a man? Last week really nuked my self confidence but I want the truth. Do I pass? I aint sensitive.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1056.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft372%2Fdedalus3333%2FCIMG7143_zps3ffae2a5.jpg&hash=f7b8d5ff3e98eb25090f0240daad1b3261a2cd4d) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/dedalus3333/media/CIMG7143_zps3ffae2a5.jpg.html)
your facial bone structure is quite feminine
Quote from: Lizandri Roth on January 01, 2014, 04:47:59 AM
Hi everyone! I've been following this community for a while now. I'm from a very small town: Outjo, Namibia. (It's in Africa for those of you who don't know ;D)
This is my first post because I'm actually pretty scared because I've never asked anyone to comment on my looks, partly because I never loved me in the male form. But just recently I moved out of my parents home and I finally had the chance to experiment with my 'other side' and boy did I love it. So here it goes. This is a picture of how I look in the female form:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1327.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu668%2Fdivineshadow208%2FTransformation2012-2013_zpsc801f2ec.jpg&hash=e0f39c78a536e49a7afe330daa399a80baf0544a) (http://s1327.photobucket.com/user/divineshadow208/media/Transformation2012-2013_zpsc801f2ec.jpg.html)
Just bare in mind that it was the first time I tried make-up and I obviously am wearing a very cheap wig. So please, honestly, tell me what you think. Will I be able to pass as a female in puclic? I am absolutley inlove with myself for the first time in my life and to me I look stunning! The best part is I haven't even started HRT becuase I'm struggling to find a place in my country or South Africa that can do the procedure. If any of you happen to know of a place in Africa, pleasssssse let me know.
I am very lonely here because I've never met another transgender person in my life and EVERYONE here still sees transexuality and homosexuality as an absolute sin.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1327.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu668%2Fdivineshadow208%2FUpload_zpsd308bde4.jpg&hash=9f7be2e9e690c4067867f4271ab49a2cc08b8af0) (http://s1327.photobucket.com/user/divineshadow208/media/Upload_zpsd308bde4.jpg.html)
You are absolutely beautiful! You already have a very feminine face which is doing wonders for you, and you completely pass in my opinion. Best of luck! :D
Quote from: Lizandri Roth on January 01, 2014, 04:47:59 AM
Hi everyone! I've been following this community for a while now. I'm from a very small town: Outjo, Namibia. (It's in Africa for those of you who don't know ;D)
This is my first post because I'm actually pretty scared because I've never asked anyone to comment on my looks, partly because I never loved me in the male form. But just recently I moved out of my parents home and I finally had the chance to experiment with my 'other side' and boy did I love it.
Just bare in mind that it was the first time I tried make-up and I obviously am wearing a very cheap wig. So please, honestly, tell me what you think.
Will I be able to pass as a female in puclic?
Absolutely and yes you do look stunning. The fact that you are slender, have that long slender neck and small lower jawline really does it for you naturally. One Christian to another, don't worry about being a sinner we all are regardless of what it is. Enjoy your life and be thankful! Happy New Year!
i really can't wait to have a long hair.. so i decided to buy a wig..
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so, how do i look?
Quote from: Alisha on January 01, 2014, 11:42:35 AM
i really can't wait to have a long hair.. so i decided to buy a wig..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1335.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw673%2Falishamanshur%2FC360_2014-01-01-12-36-41-865_1_zps8bda0c0b.jpg&hash=2b3cd3b42bbf56a84577421e0a7bd7690620b82a)
so, how do i look?
Darling!
Those lips.. You look great!
Quote from: Alisha on January 01, 2014, 11:42:35 AM
i really can't wait to have a long hair.. so i decided to buy a wig..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1335.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw673%2Falishamanshur%2FC360_2014-01-01-12-36-41-865_1_zps8bda0c0b.jpg&hash=2b3cd3b42bbf56a84577421e0a7bd7690620b82a)
so, how do i look?
Scared/Surprised. Also, I'm not sure if its a positioning thing but, you can tell its a wig. It looks nice though.
https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1483334_10202617197300668_175480514_n.jpg
So far on estrogen but no blocker till february so I am still in the male range atm, started laser though :)
Quote from: keira939 on January 01, 2014, 06:10:43 PM
https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1483334_10202617197300668_175480514_n.jpg
So far on estrogen but no blocker till february so I am still in the male range atm, started laser though :)
You look a rather cute gal Keira :) You have feminized really well and should take yourself over to the 'Fabulous' (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,155728.msg1323911.html#msg1323911) topic
Quote from: V M on January 01, 2014, 06:48:53 PM
You look a rather cute gal Keira :) You have feminized really well and should take yourself over to the 'Fabulous' (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,155728.msg1323911.html#msg1323911) topic
She is a doll face!
Quote from: FalsePrincess on December 20, 2013, 06:29:18 PM
So I though I should post here too ^-^
2 pics ,one with a random t shirt and one with my average winter outfit
while these were taken i was 40 days on spiro and 10 days on e...
its wierd cause sometimes I feel like i pass and some like i dont,,,i also think i look more masculine in pics than when i look in the mirror (is there an explanation for this? am i the only one?)
be gentle with me :laugh:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2Fdnbxx56yr%2FSnapshot_20131220_3.jpg&hash=a3efe412c6ba9245b5cb5844cfd0149c3b5ca13a)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs28.postimg.org%2Fo5u0mpx1p%2FSnapshot_20131220_7.jpg&hash=fcb39ba3f8dd35031492450d35c60b10650aa07d)
I know I need to post a photo and as soon as I get one taken I will. I just wanted to comment you look very femminine. I too have a small face and chin such as yours. Being Native American I have a little bit higher cheekbones though. I feel so blessed for my small features. However I do have some scarring on the left side of my face around my mouth and along the jawline I'm a bit self concious over. Maybe you girls can give me some pointers on how to hide this.
You pass easily False Princess and have great facial bone structure.
As for me I'll post a photo soon so I can get your opinions. ;)
I want to see what you all think
http://imgur.com/DJY21w6
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDJY21w6.jpg&hash=e0235d732da1c1fd98ff367eb08f30f53d99fd33)
Thank you all for the kind words. My self convidence is soaring for the first time in my life. ::)
Here's some beautiful women on this site :-*
Luv ya'll
Thank you for the compliments Switzerland, Stephaniec and LearnedHand! I really appreciate it :) I have this constant fear of just looking hideous and then I think that I'm just cheating myself if I think of myself as "pretty" or anything like that, so it really works wonders to hear it.
Quote from: LearnedHand on December 30, 2013, 08:05:54 PM
Your hairs looks good right now, it's long and seems to have a slight natural curl at the bottom, but I'd suggest trying a different part. Having it parted at the far right side of your head accentuates the typical masculine type of hairline. See if parting it right down the middle hides the hairline.
Really? Cause parting it the middle would be my default option :) I tried to make it more feminine, and I read in many places that a side part would do that. Also I'm just really concerned about the hair because there's huge social pressure to cut it, even if I wear it in a man-bun... so again, it's just really good to hear the compliments :)
Quote from: Allyda on January 01, 2014, 10:54:26 PM
I know I need to post a photo and as soon as I get one taken I will. I just wanted to comment you look very femminine. I too have a small face and chin such as yours. Being Native American I have a little bit higher cheekbones though. I feel so blessed for my small features. However I do have some scarring on the left side of my face around my mouth and along the jawline I'm a bit self concious over. Maybe you girls can give me some pointers on how to hide this.
You pass easily False Princess and have great facial bone structure.
As for me I'll post a photo soon so I can get your opinions. ;)
thank you :)
Ill be waiting to see your pics :)
Quote from: Sheala on January 01, 2014, 11:57:14 PM
I want to see what you all think
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDJY21w6.jpg&hash=e0235d732da1c1fd98ff367eb08f30f53d99fd33)
Looking good Sheala. :) Now clean up your room! [/parent_mode]
Well, I guess I'll throw my hat in. I still have not taken hormone pills yet, although I really think I'm going to in the next month or two. I took this picture on my webcam over two years ago.The lighting is not very good, and the only make-up I'm wearing is lipstick. So, what do you think?... Ok, time for a stupid question. How do I insert a picture? It's saved on my desktop. I feel like a dufus, but will somebody tell me how to insert my picture? In the meantime, I'm sure I can add it as my profile picture (I hope :) )
Lisa, you will have to host the image I something like imgur.com, get the image link from that and put that link in your forum post surrounded by "[ img][/img]" make sure to remove that space I put in the [ img]
Jessica
Quote from: LisaW on January 02, 2014, 07:16:32 PM
Well, I guess I'll throw my hat in. I still have not taken hormone pills yet, although I really think I'm going to in the next month or two. I took this picture on my webcam over two years ago.The lighting is not very good, and the only make-up I'm wearing is lipstick. So, what do you think?... Ok, time for a stupid question. How do I insert a picture? It's saved on my desktop. I feel like a dufus, but will somebody tell me how to insert my picture? In the meantime, I'm sure I can add it as my profile picture (I hope :) )
Yes, putting the picture up for your avatar should be fairly easy to do, but to place it within a topic you will need a photo hosting site like photobucket, imgur or one of the many others
Quote from: Jamie D on January 02, 2014, 06:57:12 PM
Looking good Sheala. :) Now clean up your room! [/parent_mode]
Yes ma'am ... and thank you :))
Would somebody please start the topic "Could I pass as a hideously monstrous critter"? I am never going to get the chance to post a pic with all of you looking like you do. ARGH! ;D I would be BANNED! ::)
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on January 02, 2014, 07:46:55 PM
Would somebody please start the topic "Could I pass as a hideously monstrous critter"? I am never going to get the chance to post a pic with all of you looking like you do. ARGH! ;D I would be BANNED! ::)
Jessica is BANNED for being self-deprecating. You'll do great, sis. :)
Quote from: LisaW on January 02, 2014, 07:16:32 PM
Well, I guess I'll throw my hat in. I still have not taken hormone pills yet, although I really think I'm going to in the next month or two. I took this picture on my webcam over two years ago.The lighting is not very good, and the only make-up I'm wearing is lipstick. So, what do you think?... Ok, time for a stupid question. How do I insert a picture? It's saved on my desktop. I feel like a dufus, but will somebody tell me how to insert my picture? In the meantime, I'm sure I can add it as my profile picture (I hope :) )
Read this:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,59974.0.html
The avatar image is really too dark to see much.
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on January 02, 2014, 07:46:55 PM
Would somebody please start the topic "Could I pass as a hideously monstrous critter"? I am never going to get the chance to post a pic with all of you looking like you do. ARGH! ;D I would be BANNED! ::)
Pah-leeeze. We're not making that topic, and give yourself a little time.
Quote from: Sheala on January 01, 2014, 11:57:14 PM
I want to see what you all think
http://imgur.com/DJY21w6
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDJY21w6.jpg&hash=e0235d732da1c1fd98ff367eb08f30f53d99fd33)
Sheala? Is that really you? You are so cute! Shuffle-(Jessica crawling back into hole) :icon_ashamed:
What about me?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XIYamHEERp4/T7spT1iy3MI/AAAAAAAAQHc/MOVLbsxF7mo/s1600/godzilla78.jpg
Quote from: Alisha on January 01, 2014, 11:42:35 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1335.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw673%2Falishamanshur%2FC360_2014-01-01-12-36-41-865_1_zps8bda0c0b.jpg&hash=2b3cd3b42bbf56a84577421e0a7bd7690620b82a)
so, how do i look?
You look as if you walked into the room while I was dressing. I have seen such shocked looks before! ;)
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on January 02, 2014, 08:22:10 PM
What about me?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XIYamHEERp4/T7spT1iy3MI/AAAAAAAAQHc/MOVLbsxF7mo/s1600/godzilla78.jpg
Gorgeous! Move on to the Fabulous Thread.
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on January 02, 2014, 08:22:10 PM
What about me?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XIYamHEERp4/T7spT1iy3MI/AAAAAAAAQHc/MOVLbsxF7mo/s1600/godzilla78.jpg
I think a trip to the dentist is in order. ;)
Quote from: KittyKat on December 31, 2013, 03:58:26 PM
Just got my wig I ordered so I did my make up and took some pictures.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff324%2Ftheonecalledwill%2F20131231_165121_resized.jpg&hash=b5a47ad433e5a4f16e828240234dec54379657c3) (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/theonecalledwill/media/20131231_165121_resized.jpg.html)
I love the attitude in this picture!
How far along are you?
Quote from: Jamie D on January 02, 2014, 08:23:30 PM
I think a trip to the dentist is in order. ;)
But the toothpaste SAID whitening! *giggle* ;D
Here's an update at E + 6 weeks. What do you think? I'd appreciate any comments, feedback, and suggestions. Thanks. :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1031.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy376%2Fjust_gmjm%2FG_1a_zpsbca509c0.jpg&hash=39739ae1e4a2d9314f875d0c5bfc4255c0db9b14) (http://s1031.photobucket.com/user/just_gmjm/media/G_1a_zpsbca509c0.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1031.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy376%2Fjust_gmjm%2FG_2b_zpsf224ca7c.jpg&hash=a53bd6e222b78a4dceace35810994251a07da9b5) (http://s1031.photobucket.com/user/just_gmjm/media/G_2b_zpsf224ca7c.jpg.html)
I see very little, if any masculinity in your face, Gwynne.
Another success story! Go Gwynne! :)
Quote from: Gwynne on January 03, 2014, 12:20:25 AM
Here's an update at E + 6 weeks. What do you think? I'd appreciate any comments, feedback, and suggestions. Thanks. :)
Gwynne, your face is full of so much feminine goodness. Very pretty!
Quote from: Gwynne on January 03, 2014, 12:20:25 AM
Here's an update at E + 6 weeks. What do you think? I'd appreciate any comments, feedback, and suggestions. Thanks. :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1031.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy376%2Fjust_gmjm%2FG_1a_zpsbca509c0.jpg&hash=39739ae1e4a2d9314f875d0c5bfc4255c0db9b14) (http://s1031.photobucket.com/user/just_gmjm/media/G_1a_zpsbca509c0.jpg.html)
You are going to begin to have trouble "passing" as a guy anymore.
Quote from: Gwynne on January 03, 2014, 12:20:25 AM
Here's an update at E + 6 weeks. What do you think? I'd appreciate any comments, feedback, and suggestions. Thanks. :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1031.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy376%2Fjust_gmjm%2FG_1a_zpsbca509c0.jpg&hash=39739ae1e4a2d9314f875d0c5bfc4255c0db9b14) (http://s1031.photobucket.com/user/just_gmjm/media/G_1a_zpsbca509c0.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1031.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy376%2Fjust_gmjm%2FG_2b_zpsf224ca7c.jpg&hash=a53bd6e222b78a4dceace35810994251a07da9b5) (http://s1031.photobucket.com/user/just_gmjm/media/G_2b_zpsf224ca7c.jpg.html)
looks like someone put some E in your coffee
@Jamie: Thanks for the compliment. Right now I'm just starting out and only had 1 laser session, go Monday for first HRT appointment, pretty sure its just going to be a consult though and I'll have to wait a couple more weeks.
Quote from: Gwynne on January 03, 2014, 12:20:25 AM
Here's an update at E + 6 weeks. What do you think? I'd appreciate any comments, feedback, and suggestions. Thanks. :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1031.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy376%2Fjust_gmjm%2FG_1a_zpsbca509c0.jpg&hash=39739ae1e4a2d9314f875d0c5bfc4255c0db9b14) (http://s1031.photobucket.com/user/just_gmjm/media/G_1a_zpsbca509c0.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1031.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy376%2Fjust_gmjm%2FG_2b_zpsf224ca7c.jpg&hash=a53bd6e222b78a4dceace35810994251a07da9b5) (http://s1031.photobucket.com/user/just_gmjm/media/G_2b_zpsf224ca7c.jpg.html)
Looking awesome. Happy for you!
Quote from: Gwynne on January 03, 2014, 12:20:25 AM
Here's an update at E + 6 weeks. What do you think? I'd appreciate any comments, feedback, and suggestions. Thanks. :)
It doesn't appear the Prairie winter chill has done you any harm. Or were you frozen into that pose and someone just decided to snap a pic or two? ;)
Quote from: Gwynne on January 03, 2014, 12:20:25 AM
Here's an update at E + 6 weeks. What do you think? I'd appreciate any comments, feedback, and suggestions. Thanks. :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1031.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy376%2Fjust_gmjm%2FG_1a_zpsbca509c0.jpg&hash=39739ae1e4a2d9314f875d0c5bfc4255c0db9b14) (http://s1031.photobucket.com/user/just_gmjm/media/G_1a_zpsbca509c0.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1031.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy376%2Fjust_gmjm%2FG_2b_zpsf224ca7c.jpg&hash=a53bd6e222b78a4dceace35810994251a07da9b5) (http://s1031.photobucket.com/user/just_gmjm/media/G_2b_zpsf224ca7c.jpg.html)
You exude sweetness, nice feminine face Gwynne!
My fashion sense is still non-existent at the moment.
Not on HRT yet but i should start within a month or 2!
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg95.xooimage.com%2Ffiles%2F1%2F6%2Fe%2F2014-01-03_2-4319178.jpg&hash=9bec304e677f18e1d5f538cfc36f10fedbdffbd9)
I know I haven't made that many posts to set an avatar yet, but here goes. I first signed up here months ago. These were taken just a week or two before xmas:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1441350_1448575082028687_1527329578_n.jpg)
(https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1463510_1448575035362025_1904216650_n.jpg)
(https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/1002054_1448575092028686_1686912923_n.jpg)
I haven't started on any anti-androgens and hrt is long off in the distance. So what is the verdict?
Thank you,
Rachel
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on January 02, 2014, 08:18:41 PM
Sheala? Is that really you? You are so cute! Shuffle-(Jessica crawling back into hole) :icon_ashamed:
Thank you Jessica you are to kind. And you have no reason to be ashamed. Just use a moisterising mask and all that scally skin will slough right off LOL
It's not working.
Here is what you do:
First, take a picture with youer digital camera.
Then, connect your digital camera to your computer.
Transfer the picture onto your desktop
Go to http://www.imgur.com and click on upload images and select computer
Select the picture you transfered off your camera.
Click on Start Upload
The website will upload the picture and give you a link to it on the right side where it says BBCode (message boards & forums)
In this forum post, copy the code in your reply
I apologize in advance for not knowing how to properly insert an image. I've been trying to figure it out for a while now and at this point I'm just going to go with this and hope it works... :-\
Quote from: kasika on January 03, 2014, 04:14:34 PM
It's not working.
Here is what you do:
First, take a picture with youer digital camera.
Then, connect your digital camera to your computer.
Transfer the picture onto your desktop
Go to http://www.imgur.com and click on upload images and select computer
Select the picture you transfered off your camera.
Click on Start Upload
The website will upload the picture and give you a link to it on the right side where it says BBCode (message boards & forums)
In this forum post, copy the code in your reply
Oh my gosh THANK YOU!!!!!!! :D :D :D You're awesome!! (Edit: I will remove the old one now. :P)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIUoFwTu.jpg&hash=aeb08317dbaf2d8284eb28f2ca994a3d4fc587ad) (http://imgur.com/IUoFwTu)
Here's me without my shawl or eyeliner, still some makeup though and a high pony tail. Not my girliest appearance but not bad I hope... :'(
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FadjmMTX.jpg&hash=69588690a02be193f6fce3a232fd7f02360f83aa) (http://imgur.com/adjmMTX)
And the same outfit from profile view. :icon_sadblinky: I really hate my face from the side, or straight on.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FM0ofh6O.jpg&hash=66d9d4e3762c7b133a3f7056dc0dacb97d9e14a0) (http://imgur.com/M0ofh6O)
Outfit I like, I usually don't wear eyeshadow except for special events. But I love eyeliner.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAHWftla.jpg%3F1&hash=7e93019a804ae816873a2cefdbb27d6c1be381c3) (http://imgur.com/AHWftla)
And a more full view. I often wear matching earrings, jeans, wrist accessories, and a shawl, usually in blue or green.
So what do you all think? :-\ Passable? I know I'm somewhat lacking in the chest area. I haven't started hormones or anything. You think I'll need FFS? I'd love to hear your feedback!
As Always With Passion, Maka
Oh my gosh Makalii your going to do amazing on HRT lol! You look feminine already and a nice body :)
You look great on appearance, though passing has more to do with how you carry yourself, your behaviours and mannerisms. You've got feminine poses down, so you seem to be doing alright. :)
As for your FFS question, there's possibly brow-bossing and rhinoplasty, but FFS is generally better judged after being on hormones for a bit rather than before. You have really nice, full cheeks and a great jawline and chin, and your eyes are really pretty.
Finally, I'd also like to join you in the 'lacking in the chest area' club.
EDIT: You also seem to already have long hair. Can you lend me some and I'll pay you back when mine finally comes in?
hrt will make you a godess Makalii
you look like legolas actually...but he is quite feminine so I guess thats not a bad thing :)
you pass actually , but I think a little more make up would be nice
Rachel Looking good! and a big yes on passsing!
Maka love your eyes very cute!
Quote from: rachel.young on January 03, 2014, 02:06:01 PM
I know I haven't made that many posts to set an avatar yet, but here goes. I first signed up here months ago. These were taken just a week or two before xmas:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1441350_1448575082028687_1527329578_n.jpg)(https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1463510_1448575035362025_1904216650_n.jpg)(https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/1002054_1448575092028686_1686912923_n.jpg)
I haven't started on any anti-androgens and hrt is long off in the distance. So what is the verdict?
Thank you,
Rachel
I say pass. Your makeup is very well done and you have very nice facial features. If you do decide on HRT, it will only improve.
Quote from: Makalii on January 03, 2014, 05:33:32 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIUoFwTu.jpg&hash=aeb08317dbaf2d8284eb28f2ca994a3d4fc587ad) (http://imgur.com/IUoFwTu)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FadjmMTX.jpg&hash=69588690a02be193f6fce3a232fd7f02360f83aa) (http://imgur.com/adjmMTX)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FM0ofh6O.jpg&hash=66d9d4e3762c7b133a3f7056dc0dacb97d9e14a0) (http://imgur.com/M0ofh6O)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAHWftla.jpg%3F1&hash=7e93019a804ae816873a2cefdbb27d6c1be381c3) (http://imgur.com/AHWftla)
Oh yes...It's a pass! You have a beautiful body. Definitely, do HRT before considering any FFS.
Makai and rachelyoung looking beautiful. I see both of you are very feminine.
Quote from: Sheala on January 03, 2014, 02:27:02 PM
Just use a moisterising mask and all that scally skin will slough right off LOL
I was thinking highway crew and jack hammers! ;D
Makai and Rachelyoung total male fail. This is BEFORE HRT? OMG! (Jessica blushing with extreme jealousy :embarrassed:)
Thank you to everyone who commented on my pictures. You made my day. ;D
StephanieC, the coffee comment made me spit... coffee. :P
@makalii
You look like a former girlfriend of mine...
Well Makalii and Rachel, you both pass with flying colours and none of you have started HRT. Impressive...
Quote from: Makalii on January 03, 2014, 05:33:32 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FadjmMTX.jpg&hash=69588690a02be193f6fce3a232fd7f02360f83aa) (http://imgur.com/adjmMTX)
And the same outfit from profile view. :icon_sadblinky: I really hate my face from the side, or straight on.
So what do you all think? :-\ Passable? I know I'm somewhat lacking in the chest area. I haven't started hormones or anything. You think I'll need FFS? I'd love to hear your feedback!
As Always With Passion, Maka
You are already very feminine. Your profile, like many of us MAAB, shows a typical brow bossing. I think you would be happier with a revised forehead/brow and rhinoplasty. Do you absolutely need them? Nope.
Quote from: Makalii on January 03, 2014, 05:33:32 PM
I apologize in advance for not knowing how to properly insert an image. I've been trying to figure it out for a while now and at this point I'm just going to go with this and hope it works... :-\ Oh my gosh THANK YOU!!!!!!! :D :D :D You're awesome!! (Edit: I will remove the old one now. :P)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FM0ofh6O.jpg&hash=66d9d4e3762c7b133a3f7056dc0dacb97d9e14a0) (http://imgur.com/M0ofh6O)
Outfit I like, I usually don't wear eyeshadow except for special events. But I love eyeliner.
So what do you all think? :-\ Passable? I know I'm somewhat lacking in the chest area. I haven't started hormones or anything. You think I'll need FFS? I'd love to hear your feedback!
As Always With Passion, Maka
In this pic you look *exactly* like a cis friend of mine!!
I'm at 2 months on HRT now, amazing how time flies. I don't think much has changed yet.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthelifeofzoe.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F01%2Fphoto.jpg&hash=2c97efd0cea6d9e2ceb5bbfb4834df6e032cc69a)
Pre-HRT Pics (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,146688.msg1255483.html#msg1255483)
:D :D :D Wow!! Thanks everybody!! You're all so nice and oh so helpful! :D :D
Rachel, you look gorgeous! (:
Zoe, I like your face (: very feminine face.
With Passion, (: Maka
Quote from: Shawn Sunshine on November 27, 2013, 02:34:42 PM
:angel: hey all! Well now I am still here In Texas working on my health and hair while I get ready to move back to. California. I am not on hrt or anything yet. Not even any kind of hair removal just yet eithier. But I have been growing my hair and found a new style.thanks.to a school salon here. So here I will post my pic from march 2013 and the ones from November 2013. Tell me honestly whats good and.whats.bad. also please tell me how feminine. I.look now.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-HK5k_tbaL2M/UpZJa_mmJfI/AAAAAAAAAhI/dafZa36Zkts/s400/March2013.JPG?source=androidclient)
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sadly I cut my hair again because well I just could not seem to keep it straight. I think it still looks good like this though. I am kinda starting from scratch again now. My hair looks nothing like this at this moment. But I could still use some honest critique about my features in general and what I may have to improve upon.
Quote from: Zoe Snow on January 04, 2014, 05:33:28 PM
I'm at 2 months on HRT now, amazing how time flies. I don't think much has changed yet.
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Zoe, you're really on your way! ;D
Me 5 months on HRT. No makeup, no nothing. Maybe someday I could look female?
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Quote from: ali.yo1991 on January 05, 2014, 02:06:32 AM
Me 5 months on HRT. No makeup, no nothing. Maybe someday I could look female? (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FWlukQxF&hash=43c9c12aa86537bc3e42fc8c41817b6508e52910)
Why cant I add my photo? :(
Quote from: ali.yo1991 on January 05, 2014, 02:06:32 AM
Me 5 months on HRT. No makeup, no nothing. Maybe someday I could look female? (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FWlukQxF&hash=43c9c12aa86537bc3e42fc8c41817b6508e52910)
Not seeing the image Ali. How are your privacy settings on imgur? Public??
Your formatting looks okay.
I can see your image there. Black T-shirt, white lettering. I think you will do just fine. Try a picture in which you make your best presentation. Let's see if I can make it work.
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Quote from: Kristal on November 30, 2013, 09:08:32 AM
You kind of remind me of Natalie Portman.
I think you pass. I was getting the lori petty in Point Break vibe from you.
Kelly
An eyebrow waxing would do you wonders of good, Casey.
Quote from: Casey Danielle on January 05, 2014, 07:02:00 PM
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Well look at you, you're darned cute! You should fix those eyebrows from the bottom side up. Check out the tutorials on eyebrows. Meanwhile, I am jealous as mine are barely there and really blonde and skimpy. Good job Casey!
Thanks Willow and Shantel!
Casey, lovely to see you in girlier mode. I agree with the others about your brows, but other than that, you're looking good.
Thanks, Gwynne!
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Those pics are cute!! I did not recognize you at first. Yours eyes just pop!
Thanks Jamie, its my first try at eyeliner!
i agree with all the others you look adorable and im glad to see you doing well again"hugs" but your eyebrows are a bit thick even for boy mode imho, just dont do what i did at first and go way to small
I wanted to add a photo of my face. I am almost 36, overweight and a bit weathered heh! No HRT, makeup or anything. This is 100% male day to day, unshaven for two days, so I have not "tweaked" anything yet, and won't until I start hrt. How do you think I will go once I drop more weight in a few months.
PS.
When people say soften your face does that mean a lot of my weathered male skin will fill out eg fine lines and my old people folds hehe. I know I am unattractive, so do not hold back.
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Quote from: Sarah leah on January 06, 2014, 02:14:47 AM
I wanted to add a photo of my face. I am almost 36, overweight and a bit weathered heh! No HRT, makeup or anything. This is 100% male day to day, unshaven for two days, so I have not "tweaked" anything yet, and won't until I start hrt. How do you think I will go once I drop more weight in a few months.
PS.
When people say soften your face does that mean a lot of my weathered male skin will fill out eg fine lines and my old people folds hehe. I know I am unattractive, so do not hold back.
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i think you will do well with hrt, but don't expect hrt to help you loose weight, most of the weight loss from hrt is all muscle not fat, i used to be able to burn fat like it was gasoline, and now i couldn't loose a pound of fat to save my life
other than that i like your chin its nice and narrow
nice eyes and nice smile. I think you will do fine.
Quote from: Sarah leah on January 06, 2014, 02:14:47 AM
I wanted to add a photo of my face. I am almost 36, overweight and a bit weathered heh! No HRT, makeup or anything. This is 100% male day to day, unshaven for two days, so I have not "tweaked" anything yet, and won't until I start hrt. How do you think I will go once I drop more weight in a few months.
PS.
When people say soften your face does that mean a lot of my weathered male skin will fill out eg fine lines and my old people folds hehe. I know I am unattractive, so do not hold back.
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I don't think your unattractive at all. In fact with HRT, skin and jaw line softenting, hair removal you'll like quite feminine indeed :)
Sarah Leah,
I would agree with everyone who has commented. I think that your femininity will come out quickly once you're on HRT. If you can, though, lose the weight BEFORE you get on it. It's a real pain to try to lose after you're on it.
Carol
Thank you all for the kind words. I will drop the weight as fast/safe as I can over the next 12 weeks. Although I still feel fugly :( but that is just me, I hate the way I look. I look at most of you on here and I think wow you all look like hot girls ;) who pass without even a second glance.
In terms of
Quote from: Bardoux on January 06, 2014, 03:54:23 AM
I don't think your unattractive at all. In fact with HRT, skin and jaw line softenting, hair removal you'll like quite feminine indeed :)
What do you mean by jaw softening, as in surgery or from HRT. Also thank you for the nice comment, no one has said that to me before :icon_tears: so it is very kind of you.
Also will my face change a lot skin wise from HRT, as it is a bit saggy around the eyes cheek area from lack of sleep.
Still practicing with makeup. I was trying to be subtle. Thoughts?
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Looks pretty good from what I can tell. Do you want a tip to lessen the brow ridge?
Quote from: LordKAT on January 06, 2014, 06:06:39 PM
Looks pretty good from what I can tell. Do you want a tip to lessen the brow ridge?
Please! :)
I used to be so nervous about posting pics but at this point I just don't care. ;)
2 months HRT (low dose)
Lazily losing weight at a rate of .5lbs a week.
No blowing smoke up my skirt! Honesty is the best policy. I know I have a ways to go.
Check out my crazy eyes! HAH!
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Complementary peace sign!
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Honestly? I think your overall body shape is a great starting platform for the changes to mold and you will do great. You call them "crazy eyes", but I personally see confidence and contentment. Weight doesn't seem to be an issue in these photo's. :)
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on January 07, 2014, 04:55:26 AM
Honestly? I think your overall body shape is a great starting platform for the changes to mold and you will do great. You call them "crazy eyes", but I personally see confidence and contentment. Weight doesn't seem to be an issue in these photo's. :)
Awesome. Thank you. I can't wait for those changes. This whole transition is so much fun!!
Hi Lara,
I totally agree with Jess, here.
Your torso shape is going to do you wonders, figurewise. As for your face, I don't think you have too much to worry about. While the pic's too dark and distant to get specific, with your hair styled and your brows thinned, looks like you'll do just fine :)
Quote from: Gwynne on January 07, 2014, 07:50:32 AM
Hi Lara,
I totally agree with Jess, here.
Your torso shape is going to do you wonders, figurewise. As for your face, I don't think you have too much to worry about. While the pic's too dark and distant to get specific, with your hair styled and your brows thinned, looks like you'll do just fine :)
Thanks a lot Gwynne! I pluck my brows daily but still manage to maintain two anchovies on my face. I'm at the point where I really don't give a crap if I pass butt still, it would be nice.
You really do have an awesome torso shape there Lara, of which I'm only slightly jealous ;) I think you'll do just fine. Also, I really love that top :D
@kabittarah
You're on your way and I see a lotta promise in those soft facial features, but there are some things that could work wonders with some work.
First, hair. Find a trans friendly stylist and talk to them about what'll look good on your face. Make sure they know you identify as female. I personally recommend a side parted layered bob with side swept bangs. Bangs are feminizing, so use them. Work soft and face framing layers to give you volume, the rounder that volume the better. Use waxes or other types of hair product to beef up that volume as much as you can. We want it full and round and gorgeous. I feel like a few highlights could also do you tons of good, but that's really up to you.
Second, get rid of that beard shadow asap.
Third, thin out those eyebrows a tad. Not you yourself, but a professional. Ask them for a nice feminine shape, but not too thin cause your face will overwhelm them. Tell them you're trans and want to look as feminine as possible and then listen to their advice. They're a professional, they know what they're doing.
Lastly, get some makeup going girl. Foundation, blush, mascara, the works. Keep it natural, but use it. Expirement a little and find out your colors and style and all that good stuff.
Good luck to you, I wish you the best!
So today I took some body pictures. I'm 2.5 weeks HRT, so no boobs underneath there yet.
I'm worried about my body. My arms are lanky veiny man arms, and my hands are giant man hands, my shoulders are too broad :(.
Bleh. I feel like I look so masculine :(
Could my body be passable once maybe HRT reduces some of my upper body muscle and maybe redistributes some fat?
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I'm 5'10", 144lb.
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Quote from: Thylacin on January 09, 2014, 04:26:07 PM
So today I took some body pictures. I'm 2.5 weeks HRT, so no boobs underneath there yet.
I'm worried about my body. My arms are lanky veiny man arms, and my hands are giant man hands, my shoulders are too broad :(.
Bleh. I feel like I look so masculine :(
Could my body be passable once maybe HRT reduces some of my upper body muscle and maybe redistributes some fat?
=/
I'm 5'10", 144lb.
Your shoulders really aren't that broad. You have a little fat and alotr of muscle in your upper arms just making you look that way a little. Your like me in one way though as you have feminine hips. I'm sure once you are on hrt for awhile and you realize the redistributions you'll look great.
Quote from: Thylacin on January 09, 2014, 04:26:07 PM
So today I took some body pictures. I'm 2.5 weeks HRT, so no boobs underneath there yet.
I'm worried about my body. My arms are lanky veiny man arms, and my hands are giant man hands, my shoulders are too broad :(.
Bleh. I feel like I look so masculine :(
Could my body be passable once maybe HRT reduces some of my upper body muscle and maybe redistributes some fat?
=/
I'm 5'10", 144lb.
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Thylacin,
5' 10" @ 144lbs is not bad at all, being new to HRT you can expect to put on an extra ten pounds. I used to have veiny arms pre-hrt, now they're hard to find when I'm having a blood draw, probably more HRT related as I've purposefully lost 60 lbs over the last few years and am not a fat putz. You have a nice body to begin with so give it time and you will be looking great.
Quote from: Shantel on January 09, 2014, 05:46:01 PM
Thylacin,
5' 10" @ 144lbs is not bad at all, being new to HRT you can expect to put on an extra ten pounds. I used to have veiny arms pre-hrt, now they're hard to find when I'm having a blood draw, probably more HRT related as I've purposefully lost 60 lbs over the last few years and am not a fat putz. You have a nice body to begin with so give it time and you will be looking great.
I better go on a diet now if I can expect to gain 10 lbs. I'm 5-5 and 120 now & with my small bone structure ten more pounds would make me look huge!, lol! I really feel the best at around 115 but it's hard to get there.
Quote from: Allyda on January 09, 2014, 06:02:46 PM
I better go on a diet now if I can expect to gain 10 lbs. I'm 5-5 and 120 now & with my small bone structure ten more pounds would make me look huge!, lol! I really feel the best at around 115 but it's hard to get there.
OMG you are just plain tiny already, don't worry about it. I'm 5' 7" and 170 with medium bone structure, You don't need to be skin and bones to look feminine!
Quote from: Shantel on January 09, 2014, 06:06:40 PM
OMG you are just plain tiny already, don't worry about it. I'm 5' 7" and 170 with medium bone structure, You don't need to be skin and bones to look feminine!
I just have a really small bone structure but I'm kind of lanky having long legs & long arms for my height. I do have nice hips though. I'll get a photo up on here as soon as I get a few taken. I also want to give the hormones at least 6 months to at least get started doing their thing as well. It's funny, my wrists are so small I've never been able to wear traditional mens watches. Most of the time the watch itself was as wide as my wrist, lol! ;)
Quote from: Allyda on January 09, 2014, 06:29:07 PM
I just have a really small bone structure but I'm kind of lanky having long legs & long arms for my height. I do have nice hips though. I'll get a photo up on here as soon as I get a few taken. I also want to give the hormones at least 6 months to at least get started doing their thing as well. It's funny, my wrists are so small I've never been able to wear traditional mens watches. Most of the time the watch itself was as wide as my wrist, lol! ;)
My you are tiny, I can't wait to see a few pix when you get them up. My wrists have been getting smaller, I've had two links removed three times now from my watch band and am due to get a few more removed before long. I've been taking 800 mg of calcium citrate a day to be sure it's not bone loss.
Come on Allyda we want pics!
:P :-X
I've recently had a dexa scan to make sure I don't have bone loss. I've always been small featured for as long as I can remember, and always looked more like a girl than a guy. As a result, family members when I would visit always try and feed me. When I had my accident in 91 and was hospitalized I was constantly hounded about gaining weight. They'd bring in these huge meals that I just couldn't eat. I ended up leaving that hospital AMA for another because they had me up to 140 & I looked puffy like the pillsbury dough boy. And what's worse is that episode left me with excess skin in some areas so now I try my best to watch my weight carefully. I need to keep active even though it hurts (I have chronic pain issues from accident). My bone structure just can't handle that much weight. As I said I feel best at around 115 to 118. but in the winter time sometimes I can't help creeping up a little due to being stuck inside.
Quote from: FalsePrincess on January 09, 2014, 06:52:22 PM
Come on Allyda we want pics!
:P :-X
Don't have any at the moment. Be patient my new friends. I'll post some soon. ;)
Haha ok
its really awesome though to be that thin and small boned :)
Im 143lbs I want to go down to 125 before summer
Quote from: FalsePrincess on January 09, 2014, 07:08:28 PM
Haha ok
its really awesome though to be that thin and small boned :)
Im 143lbs I want to go down to 125 before summer
Princess, you look really perfect just as you are. If it's not broken don't fix it! :D
Quote from: FalsePrincess on January 09, 2014, 07:08:28 PM
Haha ok
its really awesome though to be that thin and small boned :)
Im 143lbs I want to go down to 125 before summer
How tall are you?
Quote from: Thylacin on January 09, 2014, 04:26:07 PM
So today I took some body pictures. I'm 2.5 weeks HRT, so no boobs underneath there yet.
I'm worried about my body. My arms are lanky veiny man arms, and my hands are giant man hands, my shoulders are too broad :(.
Bleh. I feel like I look so masculine :(
You mean veiny man arms like this guy?
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Oops ...
Errr ...
Never mind.
Quote from: Shantel on January 09, 2014, 07:11:06 PM
Princess, you look really perfect just as you are. If it's not broken don't fix it! :D
thanks for the kind words
Τhe thing is that I like being thin...maybe thinner than normal...skinny I guess ,,,
Quote from: Allyda on January 09, 2014, 07:17:48 PM
How tall are you?
I am 5.8 feet 1.77 cm
HHHhhm I wander if with hrt I ll be able to shrink a cm or 2...if I was 1.75 it would be perfect...I dont mind it much though...
Quote from: Jamie D on January 09, 2014, 07:21:00 PM
You mean veiny man arms like this guy?
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Oops ...
Errr ...
Never mind.
wow lol , how?
I thought that wasnt possible...
Jamie D,
You sure know how to dis-arm veiny armed people! :D
Quote from: Jamie D on January 09, 2014, 07:21:00 PM
You mean veiny man arms like this guy?
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Oops ...
Errr ...
Never mind.
I have always been very self conscious of my veiny arms....they aren't quite this bad....but Angelina's aren't all the time either! Mine do tend to appear like this in the summer mostly but really any time it can happen.
I do think if I put on some weight it may help....one minute I'm eating Twinkies hoping to add some weight...the next I'm counting calories and going to gym more. The thing is I don't think I look skinny at all!! I wish I could see what others see!
I know I am no way over weight 130# at 5'6.5" tall and I can fit in many petite clothing but I just don't see it.
I always feel like asking other women that are thin what size they wear.....I feel I then could have some comparison. I can fit in size 0 but my hips have grown a bit so size 2 or 3 fit good....dresses are at least a 4 and sometimes a 6...they are a different breed....even though I wear small tops.
Quote from: Just Shelly on January 09, 2014, 07:51:13 PM
I have always been very self conscious of my veiny arms....they aren't quite this bad....but Angelina's aren't all the time either! Mine do tend to appear like this in the summer mostly but really any time it can happen.
I do think if I put on some weight it may help....one minute I'm eating Twinkies hoping to add some weight...the next I'm counting calories and going to gym more. The thing is I don't think I look skinny at all!! I wish I could see what others see!
I know I am no way over weight 130# at 5'6.5" tall and I can fit in many petite clothing but I just don't see it.
I always feel like asking other women that are thin what size they wear.....I feel I then could have some comparison. I can fit in size 0 but my hips have grown a bit so size 2 or 3 fit good....dresses are at least a 4 and sometimes a 6...they are a different breed....even though I wear small tops.
Sounds like you wear the same sizes as me. Though my hips are too big for a size 0. I mostly wear a size 6 in jeans and pants cause I want to be comfortable but I can get intio a 4 if I want to. I wear all small tops as well. My problem due to my long legs is finding pants long enough that fit me around the waist, lol!
Quote from: Just Shelly on January 09, 2014, 07:51:13 PM
I have always been very self conscious of my veiny arms....they aren't quite this bad....but Angelina's aren't all the time either! Mine do tend to appear like this in the summer mostly but really any time it can happen.
I do think if I put on some weight it may help....one minute I'm eating Twinkies hoping to add some weight...the next I'm counting calories and going to gym more. The thing is I don't think I look skinny at all!! I wish I could see what others see!
I know I am no way over weight 130# at 5'6.5" tall and I can fit in many petite clothing but I just don't see it.
I always feel like asking other women that are thin what size they wear.....I feel I then could have some comparison. I can fit in size 0 but my hips have grown a bit so size 2 or 3 fit good....dresses are at least a 4 and sometimes a 6...they are a different breed....even though I wear small tops.
We all know you are just a doll Shelly, all those Hollywood women who work out have veiny, muscly looking arms, so what? They still look hot and so do you lady!
My mom, my sister and myself have veiny arms. I don't think it has anything to do with looking masculine or feminine. I think someone once said it means you have good blood flow.
Quote from: Shantel on January 09, 2014, 08:00:20 PM
We all know you are just a doll Shelly, all those Hollywood women who work out have veiny, muscly looking arms, so what? They still look hot and so do you lady!
Oh Shantel you are too nice!! I just wish I could see what others do......I can't say by body is that of a man, its probably the one thing that genders me fairly well.....now if I could only get my face, hair, teeth,arms, and............to match. And then that damn thing in-between my legs to become in inny instead of an outy....life would be "priceless" :)
Quote from: Just Shelly on January 09, 2014, 08:53:07 PM
Oh Shantel you are too nice!! I just wish I could see what others do......I can't say by body is that of a man, its probably the one thing that genders me fairly well.....now if I could only get my face, hair, teeth,arms, and............to match. And then that damn thing in-between my legs to become in inny instead of an outy....life would be "priceless" :)
Hugs...you're so special just as you are!
Quote from: Thylacin on January 09, 2014, 04:26:07 PM
So today I took some body pictures. I'm 2.5 weeks HRT, so no boobs underneath there yet.
I'm worried about my body. My arms are lanky veiny man arms, and my hands are giant man hands, my shoulders are too broad :(.
Bleh. I feel like I look so masculine :(
Could my body be passable once maybe HRT reduces some of my upper body muscle and maybe redistributes some fat?
=/
I'm 5'10", 144lb.
This looks all too familiar to me. Your body and arms/hands/viens are virtually identical to mine it seems. I'm 6'1", 145lbs. It just means I'm very particular about clothing for best effect. I'd like to trade off a couple more inches in the waist for a gain in the hips but I'm not expecting any miracles. So far two inches from my waist went to my chest instead. I'll take the wins where they come. Currently measuring 38-30-36. Shoulders are 19" across to outsides of arms or 43" circumference. How about you?
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on January 09, 2014, 01:38:01 PM
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And this is me three weeks ago (difference of two years, ~ 15 kg (not counting armor plates, lol,) two clothing sizes and one shoe size, and 7 months on estrogen)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fj8fBPJ3h.jpg&hash=05ff8d687c5df2d6bafb1759b2dc06c42a04de61)
I love how in all your before pics either you are in armor or your in a military uniform. Its like you went from a human steam roller to a lovely lady. ;D
Thank you for the kind reply. And you look great :) I can not wait to drop more weight then start HRT. I am kind of getting excited now heh.
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on January 09, 2014, 01:38:01 PM
I guess she meant that Your skin will tighten up all over Your face and You will get more defined features. But what struck me was that Your face actually is not at all masculine, I could even spot any brow ridge. I sort of could imagine how You might look like in 10 months as You have quite a nice base and most probably wont need any surgeries at all. Except, dont expect any major and stunning changes, because You wont go from extremely masculine towards feminine - Your changes will be more subtle but You will do just fine :).
As for changes skin wise - those should be great (I hope You dont smoke and drink booze?). I never did that, I am 35 now, this is how he looked two years ago (please, pay attention to skin)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6XRo3zYh.jpg&hash=58af14ae0b9a24e0dea91031d157fc2ed3351491)
And this is me three weeks ago (difference of two years, ~ 15 kg (not counting armor plates, lol,) two clothing sizes and one shoe size, and 7 months on estrogen)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fj8fBPJ3h.jpg&hash=05ff8d687c5df2d6bafb1759b2dc06c42a04de61)
So, I can attest that even for us "late bloomers" - this stuff works :)
@ Casey
Wow, just wow! Are You on hormones???
I know everyone says this, but you really look like my ex fiance. If you play bassoon, bass, flute and sing, well I am going to be a very confused girl.
Beautiful, I would guess to say you really don't need to post here anymore, sure pass imo.
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on January 09, 2014, 01:38:01 PM
I guess she meant that Your skin will tighten up all over Your face and You will get more defined features. But what struck me was that Your face actually is not at all masculine, I could even spot any brow ridge. I sort of could imagine how You might look like in 10 months as You have quite a nice base and most probably wont need any surgeries at all. Except, dont expect any major and stunning changes, because You wont go from extremely masculine towards feminine - Your changes will be more subtle but You will do just fine :).
As for changes skin wise - those should be great (I hope You dont smoke and drink booze?). I never did that, I am 35 now, this is how he looked two years ago (please, pay attention to skin)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6XRo3zYh.jpg&hash=58af14ae0b9a24e0dea91031d157fc2ed3351491)
And this is me three weeks ago (difference of two years, ~ 15 kg (not counting armor plates, lol,) two clothing sizes and one shoe size, and 7 months on estrogen)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fj8fBPJ3h.jpg&hash=05ff8d687c5df2d6bafb1759b2dc06c42a04de61)
So, I can attest that even for us "late bloomers" - this stuff works :)
@ Casey
Wow, just wow! Are You on hormones???
Your brother is cute! ;) Are you messing with us? No way that is you before and after. :o
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on January 09, 2014, 01:38:01 PM
I guess she meant that Your skin will tighten up all over Your face and You will get more defined features. But what struck me was that Your face actually is not at all masculine, I could even spot any brow ridge. I sort of could imagine how You might look like in 10 months as You have quite a nice base and most probably wont need any surgeries at all. Except, dont expect any major and stunning changes, because You wont go from extremely masculine towards feminine - Your changes will be more subtle but You will do just fine :).
As for changes skin wise - those should be great (I hope You dont smoke and drink booze?). I never did that, I am 35 now, this is how he looked two years ago (please, pay attention to skin)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6XRo3zYh.jpg&hash=58af14ae0b9a24e0dea91031d157fc2ed3351491)
And this is me three weeks ago (difference of two years, ~ 15 kg (not counting armor plates, lol,) two clothing sizes and one shoe size, and 7 months on estrogen)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fj8fBPJ3h.jpg&hash=05ff8d687c5df2d6bafb1759b2dc06c42a04de61)
So, I can attest that even for us "late bloomers" - this stuff works :)
Emily
Estrogen really has worked magic on you! And the Tria has done wonders for your beard too.
ok to celebrate my therapist writting my letter to start hrt.. figured i would add some pics. ;D
soo....will hrt be nice to me?
your feedback is most welcome :)
ps... just ignore the dark marks in the corners of my eyes. tried a smudgey look without my glasses haha...clearly didnt work :P
I think it will do well by you.
Me too. I think you'll be lovely.
Laurenza,
What a beautiful smile, pretty face and perky look about you, all a huge plus for you miss!
Quote from: Sarah leah on January 10, 2014, 02:16:59 AM
Thank you for the kind reply. And you look great :) I can not wait to drop more weight then start HRT. I am kind of getting excited now heh.
Your pre hrt? Your going to blossom girl! :)
Quote from: Just Lara on January 10, 2014, 02:00:00 AM
I love how in all your before pics either you are in armor or your in a military uniform. Its like you went from a human steam roller to a lovely lady. ;D
Well I mean.... Armor...
Quote from: Laurenza on January 10, 2014, 03:45:40 AM
ok to celebrate my therapist writting my letter to start hrt.. figured i would add some pics. ;D
soo....will hrt be nice to me?
your feedback is most welcome :)
ps... just ignore the dark marks in the corners of my eyes. tried a smudgey look without my glasses haha...clearly didnt work :P
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi980.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae287%2Flaurenza1%2F1389344272496_zpsc099cc10.jpg&hash=d00c1ac0e54308c693f2280f280b558e5473592a)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi980.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae287%2Flaurenza1%2F1389344306281_zps3c68ef5a.jpg&hash=4255abde28e706dfcfd7ab717a1d33df7a287225)
congrats
Quote from: oh hai! on January 10, 2014, 02:23:32 AM
I know everyone says this, but you really look like my ex fiance. If you play bassoon, bass, flute and sing, well I am going to be a very confused girl.
Beautiful, I would guess to say you really don't need to post here anymore, sure pass imo.
I hope you don't mind me saying this but you knight picture is quite cute
Quote from: Laurenza on January 10, 2014, 03:45:40 AM
ok to celebrate my therapist writting my letter to start hrt.. figured i would add some pics. ;D
soo....will hrt be nice to me?
your feedback is most welcome :)
ps... just ignore the dark marks in the corners of my eyes. tried a smudgey look without my glasses haha...clearly didnt work :P
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi980.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae287%2Flaurenza1%2F1389344272496_zpsc099cc10.jpg&hash=d00c1ac0e54308c693f2280f280b558e5473592a)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi980.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae287%2Flaurenza1%2F1389344306281_zps3c68ef5a.jpg&hash=4255abde28e706dfcfd7ab717a1d33df7a287225)
OOMMGGGG! This is you before HRT??? You will do amazing!
Quote from: Laurenza on January 10, 2014, 03:45:40 AM
ok to celebrate my therapist writting my letter to start hrt.. figured i would add some pics. ;D
soo....will hrt be nice to me?
your feedback is most welcome :)
ps... just ignore the dark marks in the corners of my eyes. tried a smudgey look without my glasses haha...clearly didnt work :P
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi980.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae287%2Flaurenza1%2F1389344272496_zpsc099cc10.jpg&hash=d00c1ac0e54308c693f2280f280b558e5473592a)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi980.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae287%2Flaurenza1%2F1389344306281_zps3c68ef5a.jpg&hash=4255abde28e706dfcfd7ab717a1d33df7a287225)
Woooow... that's *PRE* HRT?? I don't think you have anything to worry about hunni if that's the case! :laugh: xXx
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on January 10, 2014, 06:04:56 PM
...And who said that princesses cant be knights too?
Female knights? Never heard of such a thing! :laugh:
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:D xXx
By the way Emily - it looks like you had quite a thick masculine neck in your old pic, but in your new pic it looks a lot thinner and more feminine. Was that a result of the weight loss, HRT or a combination of both? I'm just curious because I have quite a thick neck and I hate it.. >_<
<333
Quote from: Laurenza on January 10, 2014, 03:45:40 AM
ok to celebrate my therapist writting my letter to start hrt.. figured i would add some pics. ;D
soo....will hrt be nice to me?
your feedback is most welcome :)
ps... just ignore the dark marks in the corners of my eyes. tried a smudgey look without my glasses haha...clearly didnt work :P
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi980.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae287%2Flaurenza1%2F1389344272496_zpsc099cc10.jpg&hash=d00c1ac0e54308c693f2280f280b558e5473592a)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi980.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae287%2Flaurenza1%2F1389344306281_zps3c68ef5a.jpg&hash=4255abde28e706dfcfd7ab717a1d33df7a287225)
Gosh, I am surprised you are not already on estrogen. You have an obvious femininity.
Quote from: Laurenza on January 10, 2014, 03:45:40 AM
ok to celebrate my therapist writting my letter to start hrt.. figured i would add some pics. ;D
soo....will hrt be nice to me?
your feedback is most welcome :)
ps... just ignore the dark marks in the corners of my eyes. tried a smudgey look without my glasses haha...clearly didnt work :P
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi980.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae287%2Flaurenza1%2F1389344272496_zpsc099cc10.jpg&hash=d00c1ac0e54308c693f2280f280b558e5473592a)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi980.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae287%2Flaurenza1%2F1389344306281_zps3c68ef5a.jpg&hash=4255abde28e706dfcfd7ab717a1d33df7a287225)
Red is your power color. Looks fantastic on you. You have soft, feminine features and should respond brilliantly to HRT.
I think your very cute looking already!! but like myself at one time....you need to loose the farmers tan :) :)
Hello :)
Sorry to bother again on this topic...I mean, not too long ago I already asked for some sincere opinions here and I already got a lot of good tips and advices ^^
But this time I just would like to know if I have better chances with my glasses on or with my contact lenses.
I know my frame isn't a feminine one, nor my face is looking feminine yet....the only thing I don't like about my glasses is the way it makes my eyes so tiny...
Anyway, I am in boy mode, shaved yesterday morning, no make-up or anything...I really don't know if I had too many changes since I started HRT (about 100 days of HRT), but anyway, I would like to know about the glasses. With or without?
Thank you and sorry to bother here:)
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Quote from: Natalia on January 11, 2014, 02:44:26 PM
Hello :)
Sorry to bother again on this topic...I mean, not too long ago I already asked for some sincere opinions here and I already got a lot of good tips and advices ^^
But this time I just would like to know if I have better chances with my glasses on or with my contact lenses.
I know my frame isn't a feminine one, nor my face is looking feminine yet....the only thing I don't like about my glasses is the way it makes my eyes so tiny...
Anyway, I am in boy mode, shaved yesterday morning, no make-up or anything...I really don't know if I had too many changes since I started HRT (about 100 days of HRT), but anyway, I would like to know about the glasses. With or without?
Thank you and sorry to bother here:)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2398%2F258.jpg&hash=279f8ba5f91f8946910e572322b531298284cb61) (http://www.image-share.com/ijpg-2398-258.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2398%2F259.jpg&hash=de15f8c848166dc5146c82561f795d15ad9683cd) (http://www.image-share.com/ijpg-2398-259.html)
I think you look better without the glasses. You're right about the tiny eyes thing.
;D ;D ;D
thank you all for your kind words, they make me feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside :)
you are all such lovely people :) xx
Quote from: Laurenza on January 10, 2014, 03:45:40 AM
ok to celebrate my therapist writting my letter to start hrt.. figured i would add some pics. ;D
soo....will hrt be nice to me?
your feedback is most welcome :)
ps... just ignore the dark marks in the corners of my eyes. tried a smudgey look without my glasses haha...clearly didnt work :P
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi980.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae287%2Flaurenza1%2F1389344272496_zpsc099cc10.jpg&hash=d00c1ac0e54308c693f2280f280b558e5473592a)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi980.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae287%2Flaurenza1%2F1389344306281_zps3c68ef5a.jpg&hash=4255abde28e706dfcfd7ab717a1d33df7a287225)
OMG! You are gorgeous! I think You will do wonders for the HRT!*giggle* :laugh:
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on January 11, 2014, 03:56:43 PM
@KiraD
But speaking about our "fixation" on certain extra manly body parts - like Your neck - yesterday I had curious experience :). I was watching Youtube reviews for some cell phone armbands (the ones people use in gyms and while jogging outside) and I watched one of these videos made by a girl. In the end, she commented about armband lenght and admitted that her biceps is kinda average but someone with smaller arms might have fitting issues. And she mentioned numbers - 11.5'. And out of curiosity I measured my biceps and it was the same. My first response was like WTF??? Her arms look so slender, toned down and in female range, whereas I still look like amateur body-builder. And then two things hit my mind. Firstly, we ourselves tend to exaggerate small details which probably are not important at all - but we see them as the most crucial issues ever (I remember I used to think that my shoulders and biceps will be my biggest hindrance in transition - ironically, it is my brain which is doing this task, lol). Secondly, both genders are very similar in many features - except of crucial skeletal differences (which cant be fixed but mostly cant be seen without X-ray scan anyway...). I was shocked to find out that my oh-so-broad shoulders after they lost about an inch or two safely felt within maximum upper female range. Men and women have a lot of similarities - we all are human beings in the end... :) - then hormones and lifestyle takes both genders apart, but swap those hormones and adapt, and You are suddenly into something :).
when i read that i was like WTF!!! also because i have measure my biceps and they are just under 12"s and i feel like mine are huge, so what is your shoulder width, if you don't mind me asking, mine is 19"s
Quote from: Natalia on January 11, 2014, 02:44:26 PM
Hello :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2398%2F258.jpg&hash=279f8ba5f91f8946910e572322b531298284cb61) (http://www.image-share.com/ijpg-2398-258.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2398%2F259.jpg&hash=de15f8c848166dc5146c82561f795d15ad9683cd) (http://www.image-share.com/ijpg-2398-259.html)
Without glasses baby. It gives you a better head shape I believe. I have to wear contacts as well because my glasses are like yours. It makes my eyes miserably tiny.
Natalia, you have a feminine shape to your face, but I think as others said, work on your eyebrows and try a different frame for your glasses. Something like this,
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthebestfashionblog.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F05%2FTom-Ford-Eyewear-Summer-2013-Campaign-For-Women-1.jpg&hash=53e026b1705a9a0e4f697e8be52b27a6bd933cae)
At the very least, try a few different pairs out at your opticians and see what can work for you. Contacts can be a pain when using extended-wear daily.
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on January 11, 2014, 03:56:43 PM
I would say without glasses too, but for another reason. Glasses tend to pick out Your eyebrows which You probably could tweak out a bit more along their inner lower line - the overall shape is nice, but inner corners look more manly. They are a little bit of giveaway, but when You wear glasses they stick out immediately.
Thank you for your sugestions Emily! I have tried plucking a bit my eyebrows some time ago, but I was afraid of messing it up. Today I am feeling bold and I am open to giving it another try ^^ I don't know if I got it right, should I thin out a bit the inner corners, or should I thin the entire eyebrow a bit more? Are the outer corners fine that way?
Quote from: oh hai! on January 12, 2014, 12:57:32 AM
Natalia, you have a feminine shape to your face, but I think as others said, work on your eyebrows and try a different frame for your glasses. Something like this,
At the very least, try a few different pairs out at your opticians and see what can work for you. Contacts can be a pain when using extended-wear daily.
Thanks Oh Hai! That's a very nice frame. I used to wear a frame almost like that a few years back, but with thick lenses like mine the result was not very good. I am wearing contact lenses every day for more than one month now and so far I am getting used to it, but sometimes I wonder if I should keep the contact lenses or go back to my old glasses for aestetical reasons only.
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on January 12, 2014, 12:32:19 AM
Without glasses baby. It gives you a better head shape I believe. I have to wear contacts as well because my glasses are like yours. It makes my eyes miserably tiny.
Thank you Jessica! Yes! It is a pain to wear think lenses...they make your eyes really tiny. Sometimes I have considered corrective surgery an option, but at the same time I think "wearing contact lenses is not bothering me that much" and so I keep being myope.
Quote from: oh hai! on January 12, 2014, 12:57:32 AM
Natalia, you have a feminine shape to your face, but I think as others said, work on your eyebrows and try a different frame for your glasses. Something like this,
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthebestfashionblog.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F05%2FTom-Ford-Eyewear-Summer-2013-Campaign-For-Women-1.jpg&hash=53e026b1705a9a0e4f697e8be52b27a6bd933cae)
At the very least, try a few different pairs out at your opticians and see what can work for you. Contacts can be a pain when using extended-wear daily.
Oh my goodness those are gorgeous!
Quote from: Bardoux on January 12, 2014, 10:59:19 AM
Oh my goodness those are gorgeous!
I don't know, those are a little big for my taste. While I don't need glasses if I were to wear these they'd swallow my small face, lol! As recommended If I were you I'd try on several different frames until you find a pair that fit your face nicely. ;)
Quote from: Allyda on January 12, 2014, 11:13:05 AM
I don't know, those are a little big for my taste. While I don't need glasses if I were to wear these they'd swallow my small face, lol! As recommended If I were you I'd try on several different frames until you find a pair that fit your face nicely. ;)
I don't wear glasses, but i do think they are a fantastic accessory. In fact i've just been tempted to buy big frames without any lenses in them :P
Does it bother anyone else that this thread has a misplaced comma? The second comma should follow the word "as", not precede it. For some reason I always cringe when I see it and as I've commented here before it's always popping up!
lol
is a second comma really needed?? lol IDK there are various ways it could be read :)
Hopefully it, will be changed for, ver 3.0
Quote from: PrincessDi on January 12, 2014, 04:50:26 PM
Does it bother anyone else that this thread has a misplaced comma? The second comma should follow the word "as", not precede it. For some reason I always cringe when I see it and as I've commented here before it's always popping up!
lol
Nah, s-just a punctuation error. The internet's full of them, lol! ;)
I'd go with neither comma, actually.
I'd also use an and instead of an or.
Actually, this is just as much fun as looking at the pictures. :P
(speaking of which, I love your hair in your new avatar!)
Functionally, I agree that people are declaring rather than inquiring. However, structurally, they're inquiring, so the question mark is appropriate.
The second comma isn't necessary at all but I don't really care about it :) The comma was part of the original title when I created the 2.0
Maybe I'll change if I create the 3.0 but I usually have more important things on my mind
BTW... That hair style is really cute on you Emily :)
Quote from: V M on January 12, 2014, 06:30:46 PM
The second comma isn't necessary at all but I don't really care about it :) The comma was part of the original title when I created the 2.0
Maybe I'll change if I create the 3.0 but I usually have more important things on my mind
I doubt anyone's really offended by it.
The second comma is necessary and is in the wrong place in the sentence. This has bothered me for quite a while. But, it's the internet.
Quote from: Casey Danielle on January 12, 2014, 07:04:04 PM
The second comma is necessary and is in the wrong place in the sentence. This has bothered me for quite a while. But, it's the internet.
Not to quibble, but the second comma is necessary if and only if the first comma, which is arbitrary, is present.
Quote from: Gwynne on January 12, 2014, 07:06:00 PM
Not to quibble, but the second comma is necessary if and only if the first comma, which is arbitrary, is present.
Yep, if you take the second comma out, the first has to go too.
QuoteDoes it bother anyone else that this thread has a misplaced comma? The second comma should follow the word "as", not precede it. For some reason I always cringe when I see it and as I've commented here before it's always popping up!
Hooray for another pedant! ;D There are soooo many things that get to me, especially the shockingly trashy use of apostrophes, or the lack of them. English is doomed I tell you, doomed! Yep,it bothers me, too, but hey ho. I make loads of errors in my text all the time, so I can't point :(
...aaaaaand back to the topic :p
I've posted a few months ago in this thread, but only had the confidence to post a head shot. So here's a body shot. I'm intrigued as to whether HRT might actually ruin my figure or not, as currently I'm within female range body-size wise (despite developing fairly pronounced upper musculature and most recently, male stomach fat distribution).
The females on my mum's side of the family have always had lean boyish figures, despite having medium sized breasts, so perhaps not much would happen if I too HRT...or perhaps so. Tis a mystery.
Right now, due to stunted growth when I were a nipper, I'm quite small and fairly delicate. However, the bits of me that have already masculinised - are very pronounced, like brow-ridge and Adam's Apple (so FFS for those I guess) and hairline - everything above my lips looks like Phil Collins. So I'm a curious mix of feminine proportioned & delicate, yet rugged & hard-edged. Sometimes kids ask if I'm female (when I'm in complete boy-mode at work), and sometimes people think I'm over 35 and I look like the actor William Dafoe, or Justin Hawkins from the band "The Darkness". I can look totally different depending on the lighting. If it wasn't for the stunted growth when I was a kid, I'd be impossibly masculine, but it just so happens that I'm within female sizing ranges, yet masculine at the same time. Its like being stuck in a lift between two floors.
Photomabobs. I'm wearing an A-cup padded bra by-the-way.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs21.postimg.org%2F5x9efizo3%2Fpicture865.jpg&hash=77201fda87b63340a2598f90e75f228ccdade1e9) (http://postimg.org/image/5x9efizo3/)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs22.postimg.org%2Fkm93ssc7h%2Fpicture911.jpg&hash=2c58b15c909f10868a9765fdbaf39af5d1c2b9e5) (http://postimg.org/image/km93ssc7h/)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs10.postimg.org%2F6ilwytyph%2Fpicture958.jpg&hash=e69ead63d6e1bb33357cf556b447cef3ea4d2afa) (http://postimg.org/image/6ilwytyph/)
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Let's stay on topic people :) If you wish to discuss spelling and grammar make a new topic in the proper subject board
Quote from: "I'm Stella Stanhope, and that's why I drink". on January 12, 2014, 07:11:25 PM
Stella what have I been telling you dear, time to get on HRT and quit wasting your life with over-thinking and wasting time. You know your Auntie Shan won't lead you astray. You are basically an adorable, petite little thing. xox ~Shan~
Quote from: "I'm Stella Stanhope, and that's why I drink". on January 12, 2014, 07:11:25 PM
Hooray for another pedant! ;D There are soooo many things that get to me, especially the shockingly trashy use of apostrophes, or the lack of them. English is doomed I tell you, doomed! Yep,it bothers me, too, but hey ho. I make loads of errors in my text all the time, so I can't point :(
...aaaaaand back to the topic :p
I've posted a few months ago in this thread, but only had the confidence to post a head shot. So here's a body shot. I'm intrigued as to whether HRT might actually ruin my figure or not, as currently I'm within female range body-size wise (despite developing fairly pronounced upper musculature and most recently, male stomach fat distribution).
The females on my mum's side of the family have always had lean boyish figures, despite having medium sized breasts, so perhaps not much would happen if I too HRT...or perhaps so. Tis a mystery.
Right now, due to stunted growth when I were a nipper, I'm quite small and fairly delicate. However, the bits of me that have already masculinised - are very pronounced, like brow-ridge and Adam's Apple (so FFS for those I guess) and hairline - everything above my lips looks like Phil Collins. So I'm a curious mix of feminine proportioned & delicate, yet rugged & hard-edged. Sometimes kids ask if I'm female (when I'm in complete boy-mode at work), and sometimes people think I'm over 35 and I look like the actor William Dafoe, or Justin Hawkins from the band "The Darkness". I can look totally different depending on the lighting. If it wasn't for the stunted growth when I was a kid, I'd be impossibly masculine, but it just so happens that I'm within female sizing ranges, yet masculine at the same time. Its like being stuck in a lift between two floors.
Photomabobs. I'm wearing an A-cup padded bra by-the-way.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs21.postimg.org%2F5x9efizo3%2Fpicture865.jpg&hash=77201fda87b63340a2598f90e75f228ccdade1e9) (http://postimg.org/image/5x9efizo3/)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs22.postimg.org%2Fkm93ssc7h%2Fpicture911.jpg&hash=2c58b15c909f10868a9765fdbaf39af5d1c2b9e5) (http://postimg.org/image/km93ssc7h/)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs10.postimg.org%2F6ilwytyph%2Fpicture958.jpg&hash=e69ead63d6e1bb33357cf556b447cef3ea4d2afa) (http://postimg.org/image/6ilwytyph/)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2F4a8n8gjjj%2Fpicture877.jpg&hash=11b9c8f4a61b29b8379537ca5840c18a267675e9) (http://postimg.org/image/4a8n8gjjj/)
While you certainly pass easily as female, you could easily model both male or female. You are stunningly attractive and look like you could do well as another Andrej Pejić, (though coming from someone who knows nothing about entrance requirements with modelling so take with a grain of salt.)
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on January 10, 2014, 06:04:56 PM
Thank You everyone for Your nice words :) Actually, my posts was not intended as "do I pass" (because actually I dont - yet, but I am getting there!). Instead, I only wanted to show how hormones are changing skin (texture and tightening up) and yeah, Tria pays me to make those posts and advertise their products too (ok, just kidding :) ). Most of my changes are combined effort from massive weight loss, hormones, getting my hair out and facial hair removal.
Oh hai! - I do play instruments, but only piano (6 years) and bit of blockflute (was rather fooling around with it). But since a couple of my fingers got shattered in swordfighting, I am not such a good piano player as I used to be. I can sing too, but mostly ballades and such like stuff :). So, most probably, I am not Your ex fiance :).
Everyone else who called "him" cute - it is kinda nice that he is gone now, because if he heard someone calling him "cute"... You got the idea :).
Just Lara - yes, You are so right... It is a pity I could never make a full timeline set, because when I was 18, something bite me and I thought that it would be a good idea to purge all of my pre-school and school pics (now, I pretty much know what were the reasons for that, but back in those days I just hated seeing my photos, besides I thought that it would be a symbolic act of burning bridges). And even now, I mostly have those "action" pics only. My first therapist tried to tell me that I could just go on living as effeminate guy - which is kinda normal for novadays. He could understand why I dismissed this idea as being very stupid :). If I had to live as a guy - the only way would be to purge myself of anything feminine, because every smallest thing would be a trigger, whereas I needed oblivion. Only worked for two decades though, but I am not complaining - found my distinct niche among guys so nobody ever suspected :) and got my share of fun and adventures too :). But "he" never felt so alive as I do now though... :). And who said that princesses cant be knights too?
Emily
You are looking great in your latest avatar. You are coming along nicely. Lots ok change in the past few months.
Hugs
Kay
I sent an email to a GP in my town (without my name attached) as I wanted to see if he was willing to work with people who are transgender or looking at transitioning. They are all very conservative here so I wanted to test the waters, so to speak. His reply was three words:
"I do not."
I felt really upset and now a bit depressed. I cried my eyes out for a long while, but after I thought about it and decided to hell with him. I will keep searching and go to another town if I have to for a consultation.
After a while I figured I should keep up my spirits so I spent an hour and half on my eyes and skin etc practising how to do it. How do you all do it I will never know :'(
It made me feel good even if my body is still big lol and manly, which is why I cut the bottom half of my body out of the image, because I feel embarrassed by my size. (currently 98kg and 5kg drop in two weeks, 20kg to go before I am ready to start HRT.)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi661.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fuu340%2Fbraedenewart%2Fnew_zps9e91f888.png&hash=fdb54821f042276e5210bea20ceb2c26b500b95c) (http://s661.photobucket.com/user/braedenewart/media/new_zps9e91f888.png.html)
I just had to get the let down of my chest, so ignore me being a sooky lala and posting about it!! But it was therapeutic to do it :embarrassed:
Quote from: Sarah leah on January 13, 2014, 03:00:25 AM
I sent an email to a GP in my town (without my name attached) as I wanted to see if he was willing to work with people who are transgender or looking at transitioning. They are all very conservative here so I wanted to test the waters, so to speak. His reply was three words:
"I do not."
I felt really upset and now a bit depressed. I cried my eyes out for a long while, but after I thought about it and decided to hell with him. I will keep searching and go to another town if I have to for a consultation.
After a while I figured I should keep up my spirits so I spent an hour and half on my eyes and skin etc practising how to do it. How do you all do it I will never know :'(
It made me feel good even if my body is still big lol and manly, which is why I cut the bottom half of my body out of the image, because I feel embarrassed by my size. (currently 98kg and 5kg drop in two weeks, 20kg to go before I am ready to start HRT.)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi661.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fuu340%2Fbraedenewart%2Fnew_zps9e91f888.png&hash=fdb54821f042276e5210bea20ceb2c26b500b95c) (http://s661.photobucket.com/user/braedenewart/media/new_zps9e91f888.png.html)
I just had to get the let down of my chest, so ignore me being a sooky lala and posting about it!! But it was therapeutic to do it :embarrassed:
Your cute :) Bloody awful GP you have, don't cry over him, find someone who is actually a decent human being. You have a lovely smile in your avatar Sarah
I am getting sick and tired of cis women posting In this thread. :)
Quote from: Sarah leah on January 13, 2014, 03:00:25 AM
I sent an email to a GP in my town (without my name attached) as I wanted to see if he was willing to work with people who are transgender or looking at transitioning. They are all very conservative here so I wanted to test the waters, so to speak. His reply was three words:
"I do not."
I felt really upset and now a bit depressed. I cried my eyes out for a long while, but after I thought about it and decided to hell with him. I will keep searching and go to another town if I have to for a consultation.
After a while I figured I should keep up my spirits so I spent an hour and half on my eyes and skin etc practising how to do it. How do you all do it I will never know :'(
It made me feel good even if my body is still big lol and manly, which is why I cut the bottom half of my body out of the image, because I feel embarrassed by my size. (currently 98kg and 5kg drop in two weeks, 20kg to go before I am ready to start HRT.)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi661.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fuu340%2Fbraedenewart%2Fnew_zps9e91f888.png&hash=fdb54821f042276e5210bea20ceb2c26b500b95c) (http://s661.photobucket.com/user/braedenewart/media/new_zps9e91f888.png.html)
I just had to get the let down of my chest, so ignore me being a sooky lala and posting about it!! But it was therapeutic to do it :embarrassed:
OMG Baby! Your eyes are so beautiful! They are definitely fantastic and a real attention getter. They are so hypnotic. I can't say enough about them. Trust me, no one in their right mind will get past them to look down, sigh! :)
Quote from: "I'm Stella Stanhope, and that's why I drink". on January 12, 2014, 07:11:25 PM
I've posted a few months ago in this thread, but only had the confidence to post a head shot. So here's a body shot. I'm intrigued as to whether HRT might actually ruin my figure or not, as currently I'm within female range body-size wise (despite developing fairly pronounced upper musculature and most recently, male stomach fat distribution).
The females on my mum's side of the family have always had lean boyish figures, despite having medium sized breasts, so perhaps not much would happen if I too HRT...or perhaps so. Tis a mystery.
Right now, due to stunted growth when I were a nipper, I'm quite small and fairly delicate. However, the bits of me that have already masculinised - are very pronounced, like brow-ridge and Adam's Apple (so FFS for those I guess) and hairline - everything above my lips looks like Phil Collins. So I'm a curious mix of feminine proportioned & delicate, yet rugged & hard-edged. Sometimes kids ask if I'm female (when I'm in complete boy-mode at work), and sometimes people think I'm over 35 and I look like the actor William Dafoe, or Justin Hawkins from the band "The Darkness". I can look totally different depending on the lighting. If it wasn't for the stunted growth when I was a kid, I'd be impossibly masculine, but it just so happens that I'm within female sizing ranges, yet masculine at the same time. Its like being stuck in a lift between two floors.
Photomabobs. I'm wearing an A-cup padded bra by-the-way.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs21.postimg.org%2F5x9efizo3%2Fpicture865.jpg&hash=77201fda87b63340a2598f90e75f228ccdade1e9) (http://postimg.org/image/5x9efizo3/)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs22.postimg.org%2Fkm93ssc7h%2Fpicture911.jpg&hash=2c58b15c909f10868a9765fdbaf39af5d1c2b9e5) (http://postimg.org/image/km93ssc7h/)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs10.postimg.org%2F6ilwytyph%2Fpicture958.jpg&hash=e69ead63d6e1bb33357cf556b447cef3ea4d2afa) (http://postimg.org/image/6ilwytyph/)
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Stella my girl if you go on HRT you will put all of us to shame. My gosh girlfriend you are gorgeous right NOW! If I had your looks I would go full time before I finished typing this. Color me jealous baby! :) You are going to break some hearts out there.
Jessica-
"OK family I know I don't pass and I want to know what I can do about it. Please be brutally honest and give me some suggestions or observations about what is not right or needs work. I am working on the weight loss side and have lost 42.7 pounds since July 2013 and still committed to my goal. Please do not pull any punches and give it to me straight. I will not feel upset or bad about anything said to help me improve. No one will be smited or unfriended for helping me out. Now, fire away! ;D"
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1029.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy353%2Frainerosewater%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F6264D9F5-8FB6-4433-8CE1-0E67EFAFE0FD.jpg&hash=f2fa58c0a6ba7f4bf4510d99e982ce8e2b9c6db0)
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Quote from: Sarah leah on January 13, 2014, 03:00:25 AM
I sent an email to a GP in my town (without my name attached) as I wanted to see if he was willing to work with people who are transgender or looking at transitioning. They are all very conservative here so I wanted to test the waters, so to speak. His reply was three words:
"I do not."
I felt really upset and now a bit depressed. I cried my eyes out for a long while, but after I thought about it and decided to hell with him. I will keep searching and go to another town if I have to for a consultation.
After a while I figured I should keep up my spirits so I spent an hour and half on my eyes and skin etc practising how to do it. How do you all do it I will never know :'(
It made me feel good even if my body is still big lol and manly, which is why I cut the bottom half of my body out of the image, because I feel embarrassed by my size. (currently 98kg and 5kg drop in two weeks, 20kg to go before I am ready to start HRT.)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi661.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fuu340%2Fbraedenewart%2Fnew_zps9e91f888.png&hash=fdb54821f042276e5210bea20ceb2c26b500b95c) (http://s661.photobucket.com/user/braedenewart/media/new_zps9e91f888.png.html)
I just had to get the let down of my chest, so ignore me being a sooky lala and posting about it!! But it was therapeutic to do it :embarrassed:
Any eyeliner tips? I cannot apply it in any decent way and yours looks very very well applied.
What do you use?
Hi Girls
Pre-everything, trying to get some feminine look with a little bit of help by Photoshop. Looks like this is the only way to get rid of my awful beard shadow. Yet to pluck my eyebrows properly too. Hope that after 30 something years of testosterone, there is not much damage to my face.
Bud some day ... the ugly duckling ....
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HavKM_jXRiU/UtRxYmZ55XI/AAAAAAAAAC0/05ThIWSRLZM/w428-h576-no/my2.jpg)
Quote from: Trillian on January 13, 2014, 05:25:50 PM
Hi Girls
Pre-everything, trying to get some feminine look with a little bit of help by Photoshop. Looks like this is the only way to get rid of my awful beard shadow. Yet to pluck my eyebrows properly too. Hope that after 30 something years of testosterone, there is not much damage to my face.
Bud some day ... the ugly duckling ....
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HavKM_jXRiU/UtRxYmZ55XI/AAAAAAAAAC0/05ThIWSRLZM/w428-h576-no/my2.jpg)
:O youre so pretty!
Quote from: Trillian on January 13, 2014, 05:25:50 PM
Hi Girls
Pre-everything, trying to get some feminine look with a little bit of help by Photoshop. Looks like this is the only way to get rid of my awful beard shadow. Yet to pluck my eyebrows properly too. Hope that after 30 something years of testosterone, there is not much damage to my face.
Bud some day ... the ugly duckling ....
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HavKM_jXRiU/UtRxYmZ55XI/AAAAAAAAAC0/05ThIWSRLZM/w428-h576-no/my2.jpg)
You have a nice face to start with!
Quote from: Robin_Particle on January 13, 2014, 05:20:06 AM
I am getting sick and tired of cis women posting In this thread. :)
LOL, it seems that way huh?! We are being invaded by cuties.
Straight(ish) or curly?
(Also, just hit the one-year mark on HRT two days ago.)
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I say curly.
Quote from: Emo on January 13, 2014, 07:56:18 AM
Jessica-
"OK family I know I don't pass and I want to know what I can do about it. Please be brutally honest and give me some suggestions or observations about what is not right or needs work. I am working on the weight loss side and have lost 42.7 pounds since July 2013 and still committed to my goal. Please do not pull any punches and give it to me straight. I will not feel upset or bad about anything said to help me improve. No one will be smited or unfriended for helping me out. Now, fire away! ;D"
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1029.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy353%2Frainerosewater%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F6264D9F5-8FB6-4433-8CE1-0E67EFAFE0FD.jpg&hash=f2fa58c0a6ba7f4bf4510d99e982ce8e2b9c6db0)
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Honestly I say you pass already! Your make up looks good, you look relaxed and natural in your pictures too. Aaand congratulations on the weight loss that's great progress!
Quote from: Carrie Liz on January 13, 2014, 09:17:36 PM
Straight(ish) or curly?
(Also, just hit the one-year mark on HRT two days ago.)
Congrats on your 1 year!
And I'd say curly, but I'd be interested what straight could look like when it's longer...
Looking great! :)
Quote from: Carrie Liz on January 13, 2014, 09:17:36 PM
Straight(ish) or curly?
(Also, just hit the one-year mark on HRT two days ago.)
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Curly. Always curly.
Thank you for the confidence boost! I am embarrassed I posted now, as I get emotional to easily over idiot doctors. I really am a girl at times >.<
@Trillian You are very pretty already, I would die for blue eyes :)
@Marieee OMG! you look like my sister!!!
@Mickie congrats, curly and... are you on youtube, because I know you somehow?
@ Thylacin Any eyeliner tips?
Yes and no as I have only done my makeup three times in the last five years. I could never face my gender conflict until December last year as I was trying to bury it deep down and be the perfect male. However what I did was stole my sisters really oldest liquid eyeliner.. from her house as she has three of them!
The brand is called: Maybelline Precise Liquid Eyeliner. (I think as the Label is faded, but a sticker on it says that it cost $11 Australian)
I swear it is like using a texture (felt-tip pen). It is super easy if you relax, breath deeply and:
1. Line the lash line from the inner corner to the outer corner of the eyes very lightly with it
2. Then leave 5 mins and repeat for a more dramatic line like what I did.
3. I then applied a dark charcoal to my upper lids with a light coat ( just enough to see it in the mirror barely)
4. Then I highlighted the first 3-4 millimetres over that with a thin brush to darken it with the same charcoal eye shadow (just above the eyeliner not on it like I did the first 300000 times)
5. Then I closed my eye and looked for the centre of my eye through the eyelid and did a bump with dark blue eye shadow, then smudged it a little with my little finger towards the inside of my eye (towards the nose)
6. lastly I redid my lower and upper eyelid with another line of the liquid eye liner a bit higher on the top then step 1 (so as to make it look bolder). I only did the outer half of the eye lids from my pupil outwards top and bottom lid so it draws the shape of the eyes outwards.
7. I did my bottom lashes with a tiny coat of mascara to add to the look and upper lashes, wait 10 mins while I do dishes heh, then recoat the top again.
I am no expert so my advice is pure luck on my part as like I said third time a five years ever doing make up and I tried it again before and the lines looked odd, but I think practice will improve it over time :(
Quote from: Sarah leah on January 14, 2014, 01:14:26 AM
@Mickie congrats, curly and... are you on youtube, because I know you somehow?
You mean me? (Mickie was quoting my pictures, and you seem to be answering the question that I asked, so just assuming here...)
If so, then yes, I am indeed on Youtube under the name cheetaking243.
Also, Sarah, wow, you have an extremely feminine lower face, a very nice round shape, and what looks like almost zero brow bossing. HRT is going to treat you AMAZINGLY. You've got a lot to look forward to!
I knew it was you of youtube heh, you are great by the way :laugh: and one of the three people who inspired me to face my true self. So thank you.
Quote from: Carrie Liz on January 13, 2014, 09:17:36 PM
Straight(ish) or curly?
(Also, just hit the one-year mark on HRT two days ago.)
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I think both look great. But I prefer the straight one :)
Quote from: Sarah leah on January 13, 2014, 03:00:25 AM
I sent an email to a GP in my town (without my name attached) as I wanted to see if he was willing to work with people who are transgender or looking at transitioning. They are all very conservative here so I wanted to test the waters, so to speak. His reply was three words:
"I do not."
I felt really upset and now a bit depressed. I cried my eyes out for a long while, but after I thought about it and decided to hell with him. I will keep searching and go to another town if I have to for a consultation.
After a while I figured I should keep up my spirits so I spent an hour and half on my eyes and skin etc practising how to do it. How do you all do it I will never know :'(
It made me feel good even if my body is still big lol and manly, which is why I cut the bottom half of my body out of the image, because I feel embarrassed by my size. (currently 98kg and 5kg drop in two weeks, 20kg to go before I am ready to start HRT.)
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I just had to get the let down of my chest, so ignore me being a sooky lala and posting about it!! But it was therapeutic to do it :embarrassed:
I think you look really good. If you get some laser on your beard then I think you'll be fine. Your face has a really nice shape and you have pretty eyes :)
Quote from: Carrie Liz on January 13, 2014, 09:17:36 PM
Straight(ish) or curly?
(Also, just hit the one-year mark on HRT two days ago.)
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Adorbs Carrie, you look good either way dear!
Ok here's one that we took in a park the other day on the way back to the car after a nice meal out.
I like how nicely dark it is, but my I do look a frump. At 45 that might not be such a bad thing :)
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Quote from: Joan on January 14, 2014, 05:20:25 PM
Ok here's one that we took in a park the other day on the way back to the car after a nice meal out.
I like how nicely dark it is, but my I do look a frump. At 45 that might not be such a bad thing :)
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Are you kidding Joan, you look cis great lady!
Quote from: Dee on January 13, 2014, 11:49:32 PM
Congrats on your 1 year!
And I'd say curly, but I'd be interested what straight could look like when it's longer...
Looking great! :)
Yes my thoughts exactly. I think both look fine but wearing your bangs forward gets rid of the male hairline, so the pic with the curly hair looks a lot more feminine.
And happy 1 year Carrie :)
Quote from: Joan on January 14, 2014, 05:20:25 PM
Ok here's one that we took in a park the other day on the way back to the car after a nice meal out.
I like how nicely dark it is, but my I do look a frump. At 45 that might not be such a bad thing :)
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Joan you're definitely not frumpy, you look very chic ;)
Quote from: Carrie Liz on January 13, 2014, 09:17:36 PM
Straight(ish) or curly?
(Also, just hit the one-year mark on HRT two days ago.)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.tinypic.com%2F11ak7cl.jpg&hash=4ff5cad20b07606ec5217320beb436db3221d39e)
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stylish
Quote from: Joan on January 14, 2014, 05:20:25 PM
Ok here's one that we took in a park the other day on the way back to the car after a nice meal out.
I like how nicely dark it is, but my I do look a frump. At 45 that might not be such a bad thing :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAyJvNyb.jpg&hash=2b60a61a48afc8097191e65492e876d4aba7de71)
definitely not frump
Quote from: Joan on January 14, 2014, 05:20:25 PM
Ok here's one that we took in a park the other day on the way back to the car after a nice meal out.
I like how nicely dark it is, but my I do look a frump. At 45 that might not be such a bad thing :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAyJvNyb.jpg&hash=2b60a61a48afc8097191e65492e876d4aba7de71)
Αwesome!
You look like a highschool teacher I used to admire and much cis already :)
Quote from: Shantel on January 14, 2014, 05:25:04 PM
Are you kidding Joan, you look cis great lady!
Thank you Shantel! :)
Quote from: Harlow on January 14, 2014, 07:26:30 PM
Joan you're definitely not frumpy, you look very chic ;)
And thank you too, Harlow :)
Quote from: stephaniec on January 14, 2014, 07:38:28 PM
definitely not frump
That's good to know, Stephanie. I think it's the skirt length that bugs me :O
Quote from: FalsePrincess on January 14, 2014, 09:14:14 PM
Αwesome!
You look like a highschool teacher I used to admire and much cis already :)
Thank you FalseP. What did she teach? :)
This was actually taken the day after my first estradiol injection, and I was feeling quite pleased with myself :D
Quote from: Joan on January 14, 2014, 09:37:17 PM
Thank you FalseP. What did she teach? :)
This was actually taken the day after my first estradiol injection, and I was feeling quite pleased with myself :D
Ancient Greek :/ lol
btw its a really nice feeling to know that with hormones you get to be closer to a female than a male, that alone is a reason to go out more
Quote from: Carrie Liz on January 13, 2014, 09:17:36 PM
Straight(ish) or curly?
(Also, just hit the one-year mark on HRT two days ago.)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.tinypic.com%2F11ak7cl.jpg&hash=4ff5cad20b07606ec5217320beb436db3221d39e)
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I guess I'd go with straight. Then again....hmmmm....both. :D
Either way, its getting longer. So thats a plus.
When's the next VLOG? I'm your biggest fan!
Quote from: FalsePrincess on January 14, 2014, 09:49:39 PM
Ancient Greek :/ lol
btw its a really nice feeling to know that with hormones you get to be closer to a female than a male, that alone is a reason to go out more
It certainly feels like I'm moving in the right direction on that one at last!
I wish I
could speak Greek!
Quote from: Joan on January 15, 2014, 05:27:25 AMIt certainly feels like I'm moving in the right direction on that one at last!
I wish I could speak Greek!
Kali Orexi.
I think that means relax.
I went on a cruise (on a ship that's now a school at sea, I see it advertised some places in my university :D) with a now defunct Greek cruise line about 11 years ago, and that was a word in the brochure. I still have it, at home in Florida though. I very much enjoyed looking at the deck plans.
But other than that, it's all Greek to me! :D
Quote from: Willow on January 15, 2014, 05:50:27 AM
Kali Orexi.
I think that means relax.
sorry but I laughed so hard on this XD :laugh: :D
cause it actually means "enjoy your meal " XD XD XD
Quote from: Joan on January 15, 2014, 05:27:25 AM
I wish I could speak Greek!
Yeah objectively greek is a very complex language but beautiful too , I really like it...
Somewhere I ve read that greeks and japanese write the most poems in the world?
no wonder I guess...
just a random clarification that doesnt even matter,,, there is a huge difference between ancient and modern greek...I think in usa they teach ancient greek in some universities but still call them greek...so people get confused...
I like you in both Carrie but agree try straight hair.
Joan that green coat is to die for and I love your shoes. So fashionable.
http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=fNkd6hpTbcPhn3pFIsYjToh4l5k2TGxc
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I posted here wayyyy in the past but I wanted to get some new people's opinions :) plus I gained then lost some weight so ahhh lol the first ones like a month ago second is a couple weeks ago third is a couple days ago :) pre everything I don't even have any girl clothes and I suck at makeup :'(
Quote from: Adrilynn on January 16, 2014, 03:47:29 AM
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I posted here wayyyy in the past but I wanted to get some new people's opinions :) plus I gained then lost some weight so ahhh lol the first ones like a month ago second is a couple weeks ago third is a couple days ago :) pre everything I don't even have any girl clothes and I suck at makeup :'(
Pre-HRT????! You actually look like Ellen page :)
Hi Adrilynn,
If you have an understanding and reliable genetic female friend who you can trust, I'd ask if you can try some of her clothes out to see what you like, what looks good and how you feel. Take small steps, see how everything feels first.
Otherwise you do look every feminine (and young) which is so in your favor should you decide to transition at some point in the future. Best wishes.
Quote from: Bardoux on January 16, 2014, 03:50:16 AM
Pre-HRT????! You actually look like Ellen page :)
Well thanks :) and yes pre everything.
Adrilynn you look like a girl already :)
with hrt I think you ll look great :)
Quote from: oh hai! on January 16, 2014, 04:03:08 AM
Hi Adrilynn,
If you have an understanding and reliable genetic female friend who you can trust, I'd ask if you can try some of her clothes out to see what you like, what looks good and how you feel. Take small steps, see how everything feels first.
Otherwise you do look every feminine (and young) which is so in your favor should you decide to transition at some point in the future. Best wishes.
Well I've already decided on transition. Its just difficult because I live with my grandma. And shes old fashioned and not very understanding. She'd probably disown me. I'm 19 btw but yah I remember as young as 4-9 asking my sister to make me pretty and put makeup and dresses on me. Had to stop cuz I got yelled at and hit.
Quote from: FalsePrincess on January 16, 2014, 04:17:21 AM
Adrilynn you look like a girl already :)
with hrt I think you ll look great :)
Thanks so much :) yah three people called me she or ma'am yesterday and called my backpack a handbag. Needless to say I was happy. Cuz I was in full boy mode and still passed xD
Quote from: Adrilynn on January 16, 2014, 04:21:13 AM
Thanks so much :) yah three people called me she or ma'am yesterday and called my backpack a handbag. Needless to say I was happy. Cuz I was in full boy mode and still passed xD
haha thats awesome looks like your future is quite on the bright side :)
have fun :)
Quote from: Adrilynn on January 16, 2014, 04:18:42 AM
Well I've already decided on transition. Its just difficult because I live with my grandma. And shes old fashioned and not very understanding. She'd probably disown me. I'm 19 btw but yah I remember as young as 4-9 asking my sister to make me pretty and put makeup and dresses on me. Had to stop cuz I got yelled at and hit.
Thats a familiar story :( Glad to see you are undeterred and you are going through with what will make you happy instead of living for other people. It will do wonders for your mental health.
Quote from: Adrilynn on January 16, 2014, 03:47:29 AM
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http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=fNkd6hpTbcOkqF5yPFUrB4h4l5k2TGxc
I posted here wayyyy in the past but I wanted to get some new people's opinions :) plus I gained then lost some weight so ahhh lol the first ones like a month ago second is a couple weeks ago third is a couple days ago :) pre everything I don't even have any girl clothes and I suck at makeup :'(
In an answer to the question at the top of the page: a definite yes! :D
Quote from: oh hai! on January 16, 2014, 01:46:08 AM
Joan that green coat is to die for and I love your shoes. So fashionable.
Thank you oh hai!
I got them both in the sales :)
http://sv.tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=a6BMdyuA%2FVzRDnYM2wvaqIh4l5k2TGxc#.Ute2-rTHxV_ (http://sv.tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=a6BMdyuA%2FVzRDnYM2wvaqIh4l5k2TGxc#.Ute2-rTHxV_)
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Hello, I'm new here just wanted to share some pictures of me. Trying to muster up courage to talk to my therapist about my ->-bleeped-<-. Anyway, nice to meet you all :)
Quote from: Unni on January 16, 2014, 04:47:09 AM
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Hello, I'm new here just wanted to share some pictures of me. Trying to muster up courage to talk to my therapist about my ->-bleeped-<-. Anyway, nice to meet you all :)
Nice to meet you :)
looking really good already :)
Quote from: Unni on January 16, 2014, 04:47:09 AM
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Hello, I'm new here just wanted to share some pictures of me. Trying to muster up courage to talk to my therapist about my ->-bleeped-<-. Anyway, nice to meet you all :)
Yeah you already have quite a lot of feminine features, with HRT your skin and jawline will get even softer. Hope it goes well with your therapist :)
Quote from: Bardoux on January 16, 2014, 04:57:06 AM
Yeah you already have quite a lot of feminine features, with HRT your skin and jawline will get even softer. Hope it goes well with your therapist :)
Quote from: FalsePrincess on January 16, 2014, 04:48:48 AM
Nice to meet you :)
looking really good already :)
Thanks alot, it means so much to hear this
Quote from: Unni on January 16, 2014, 04:47:09 AM
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Hello, I'm new here just wanted to share some pictures of me. Trying to muster up courage to talk to my therapist about my ->-bleeped-<-. Anyway, nice to meet you all :)
Hi there :)
Yes I agree with what Bardoux wrote. It's not just the shape of your face either: your expression is already very feminine. Good luck with that mustering!
Very cute Unni, you have beautiful cheekbones and bone structure. Your brows are great. I think you will do wonderfully.
Quote from: oh hai! on January 16, 2014, 05:07:26 AM
Very cute Unni, you have beautiful cheekbones and bone structure. Your brows are great. I think you will do wonderfully.
Quote from: Joan on January 16, 2014, 05:03:33 AM
Hi there :)
Yes I agree with what Bardoux wrote. It's not just the shape of your face either: your expression is already very feminine. Good luck with that mustering!
Thanks alot, I'm real happy to hear this :)
Cannot see unni
Quote from: Emo on January 13, 2014, 07:56:18 AM
Jessica-
"OK family I know I don't pass and I want to know what I can do about it. Please be brutally honest and give me some suggestions or observations about what is not right or needs work. I am working on the weight loss side and have lost 42.7 pounds since July 2013 and still committed to my goal. Please do not pull any punches and give it to me straight. I will not feel upset or bad about anything said to help me improve. No one will be smited or unfriended for helping me out. Now, fire away! ;D"
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Weight loss as you mentioned would be a huge plus. Your cheeks are flat, with HRT that should round out. eyebrow shape looks feminine.
Your wig does look like a crossdresser wig. A much shorter one like a bob type wig or another short style would look more realistic. I notice it appears you have a adams apple visible. A few makeup tricks can cover that.
I think weight loss and a shorter more realistic wig will give you dramatic improvement
I thin
Quote from: Emo on January 13, 2014, 07:56:18 AM
Jessica-
....
The first thing that comes to me is as you say, your weight. Great going though, -42,7 since July means dedication! 8)
You also have a relatively pronounced jawline, which propably is what gives your face away. Your nose looks good as does your eyes, eybrows and cheeks. The wig looks misplaced and I believe that a shorter one would go better with your face.
Sorry if I was too brutal. :'(
I know I'm not clean-shaven.
Not on HRT, just curious as to what people think my chances would be of passing.
http://i41.tinypic.com/1115ijp.jpg
Thanks in advance, hopefully not as scary an outcome as my mind suggests to me.
You're good looking as a guy and not overly masculine. That usually means very good things for you as a girl. As in everyone here will likely be jealous of you.
Quote from: Untoward on January 17, 2014, 08:01:38 PM
I know I'm not clean-shaven.
Not on HRT, just curious as to what people think my chances would be of passing.
http://i41.tinypic.com/1115ijp.jpg
Thanks in advance, hopefully not as scary an outcome as my mind suggests to me.
I think you're wonderful. Beautiful boys usually become beautiful girls. Your face is very well proportioned and very attractive
Jessica I don't comment often on this thread unless I feel strongly. Based on your photos, you pass. If you say your not, I guess it would be based on your shoulder mass or height or walk?
You're breaking all the "rules". Wig is too long, too tight/short clothes, too much weight but somehow it's working for you.
facially everything seems well within female range.
If you want better advice I would post a video.
Hello all; I thought I'd post a few recent pictures of myself to get a feel for where I need to go from here. I've been on hormones for a year. FFS in on the horizon for me; I know my haircut isn't the best for trying to pass, but with hair as course as mine I'm really at my wits end in terms of growing it out. So here it goes-going by my profile picture and the ones I've posted here, how am I doing?
Horribly lit, I know, but this is me in my crazier makeup.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/114837356@N07/12021310774/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/114837356@N07/12021310774/)
Then these two are me without anything on, in warm lighting:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/114837356@N07/12021310924/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/114837356@N07/12021310924/)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/114837356@N07/12020957265/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/114837356@N07/12020957265/)
Thanks,
Sasha
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on January 18, 2014, 06:52:34 PM
Hello all; I thought I'd post a few recent pictures of myself to get a feel for where I need to go from here. I've been on hormones for a year. FFS in on the horizon for me; I know my haircut isn't the best for trying to pass, but with hair as course as mine I'm really at my wits end in terms of growing it out. So here it goes-going by my profile picture and the ones I've posted here, how am I doing?
Horribly lit, I know, but this is me in my crazier makeup.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/114837356@N07/12021310774/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/114837356@N07/12021310774/)
Then these two are me without anything on, in warm lighting:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/114837356@N07/12021310924/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/114837356@N07/12021310924/)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/114837356@N07/12020957265/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/114837356@N07/12020957265/)
Thanks,
Sasha
You're awful cute Sasha, I would kill to have a head of hair like that. I'll leave any serious critique up to the girls here, but I think the sky is the limit for you hon!
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on January 18, 2014, 06:52:34 PM
Hello all; I thought I'd post a few recent pictures of myself to get a feel for where I need to go from here. I've been on hormones for a year. FFS in on the horizon for me; I know my haircut isn't the best for trying to pass, but with hair as course as mine I'm really at my wits end in terms of growing it out. So here it goes-going by my profile picture and the ones I've posted here, how am I doing?
Horribly lit, I know, but this is me in my crazier makeup.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/114837356@N07/12021310774/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/114837356@N07/12021310774/)
Then these two are me without anything on, in warm lighting:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/114837356@N07/12021310924/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/114837356@N07/12021310924/)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/114837356@N07/12020957265/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/114837356@N07/12020957265/)
Thanks,
Sasha
Can i have your hair?
Quote from: NatalieT on November 17, 2013, 04:24:53 PM
Do you think I pass better with the natural, slightly wavy hair, or straightened hair? (pic below)
http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r766/NatalieT123/image201311170011_zpsf2b8cf43.jpg
You pass better with your hair slightly wavy. I think if it was just a little bit longer (like down to your chin) and you straightened it, then it would look awesome too, but because of the length it is, wavy looks a little more feminine :) you look great, by the way!
Quote from: Untoward on January 17, 2014, 08:01:38 PM
I know I'm not clean-shaven.
Not on HRT, just curious as to what people think my chances would be of passing.
http://i41.tinypic.com/1115ijp.jpg
Thanks in advance, hopefully not as scary an outcome as my mind suggests to me.
Honestly I think you will look fantastic though I would say ffs will do you wonders in the future if you can afford it
Pre-everything, will I be able to pass eventually?
http://Instagram.com/heelchic
Quote from: Chic on January 18, 2014, 11:37:10 PM
Pre-everything, will I be able to pass eventually?
http://Instagram.com/heelchic
http://instagram.com/p/iHn92PrgE8/
In this one, I think you pass already :)
How am I doing in these so far? Mainly how my face is going along.
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Quote from: Gwynne on January 18, 2014, 11:46:56 PM
http://instagram.com/p/iHn92PrgE8/
In this one, I think you pass already :)
Really? Omg! What about it makes me look passable? :o
Quote from: Chic on January 19, 2014, 12:24:23 AM
Really? Omg! What about it makes me look passable? :o
your puffy cheeks, absolute lack of facial hair, and lovely, big-eyed smile ;D
Quote from: Gwynne on January 19, 2014, 12:41:11 AM
your puffy cheeks, absolute lack of facial hair, and lovely, big-eyed smile ;D
You are too sweet! Thanks so much hon ^-^ You look absolutely gorgeous :)
androgynouspainter26
You remind me of a butch lesbian friend I have. But you are way more feminine. Pass, totally
Chic
You look feminine enough even for pre HRT i think. It can only get better and by that I mean a total babe...
Riley Skye
If you came up to me, talked in a feminine way. I guess I would never doubt a second that you are a girl.
Quote from: Riley Skye on January 19, 2014, 12:13:06 AM
How am I doing in these so far? Mainly how my face is going along.
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With a longer hair style, i think you would look even more feminine :)
NCAmazon, 930310 and Sandrauk Thanks for the honesty. :)
I am now up to 6 miles a day and the weight is falling off in chunks. I have better clothes now and went with a shorter different color wig. How is the avatar shot? I think it is an improvement over the darker, cheaper wig. I have lost 7.73 pounds since these pictures. When exercising I push myself hard to reach my goals. HRT is starting to eliminate the muscle bulk around shoulders, etc. Takes time I suppose, but yes, confidence goes a long way towards passing. I do wear my Paramedic/Firefighter T shirt's a lot while out. I think people see them and attribute my musculature to holding those jobs. It's kind of like "Girloflage"! *giggle* Thanks again! :)
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on January 19, 2014, 06:30:15 AM
NCAmazon, 930310 and Sandrauk Thanks for the honesty. :)
I am now up to 6 miles a day and the weight is falling off in chunks. I have better clothes now and went with a shorter different color wig. How is the avatar shot? I think it is an improvement over the darker, cheaper wig. I have lost 7.73 pounds since these pictures. When exercising I push myself hard to reach my goals. HRT is starting to eliminate the muscle bulk around shoulders, etc. Takes time I suppose, but yes, confidence goes a long way towards passing. I do wear my Paramedic/Firefighter T shirt's a lot while out. I think people see them and attribute my musculature to holding those jobs. It's kind of like "Girloflage"! *giggle* Thanks again! :)
You look fantastic, hon! I must say it's always a pleasure reading your posts on the forum because you're so polite and well-informed, you're a real gem! :) Keep working hard and eventually you'll reach exactly where you want to be, that's always held true in my experience!
Quote from: Chic on January 19, 2014, 01:51:36 PM
You look fantastic, hon! I must say it's always a pleasure reading your posts on the forum because you're so polite and well-informed, you're a real gem! :) Keep working hard and eventually you'll reach exactly where you want to be, that's always held true in my experience!
Thank you for the kind comments. I hope to continue living up to the expectations! :)
Thanks everyone, you're making me blush :)
Quote from: Untoward on January 17, 2014, 08:01:38 PM
I know I'm not clean-shaven.
Not on HRT, just curious as to what people think my chances would be of passing.
http://i41.tinypic.com/1115ijp.jpg
Thanks in advance, hopefully not as scary an outcome as my mind suggests to me.
I think pretty good. You don't have a rugged masculine face now.
Quote from: Unni on January 16, 2014, 04:47:09 AM
http://sv.tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=a6BMdyuA%2FVzRDnYM2wvaqIh4l5k2TGxc#.Ute2-rTHxV_ (http://sv.tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=a6BMdyuA%2FVzRDnYM2wvaqIh4l5k2TGxc#.Ute2-rTHxV_)
http://sv.tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=a6BMdyuA%2FVzRDnYM2wvaqIh4l5k2TGxc#.Ute2tLTHxV_ (http://sv.tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=a6BMdyuA%2FVzRDnYM2wvaqIh4l5k2TGxc#.Ute2tLTHxV_)
Hello, I'm new here just wanted to share some pictures of me. Trying to muster up courage to talk to my therapist about my ->-bleeped-<-. Anyway, nice to meet you all :)
My first thought is why would a FtM post here?
Ummm, if you are MtF, you are way ahead of the game.
Quote from: Adrilynn on January 16, 2014, 03:47:29 AM
http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=fNkd6hpTbcPhn3pFIsYjToh4l5k2TGxc
http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=fNkd6hpTbcPTyUopFczir4h4l5k2TGxc
http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=fNkd6hpTbcOkqF5yPFUrB4h4l5k2TGxc
I posted here wayyyy in the past but I wanted to get some new people's opinions :) plus I gained then lost some weight so ahhh lol the first ones like a month ago second is a couple weeks ago third is a couple days ago :) pre everything I don't even have any girl clothes and I suck at makeup :'(
I recall your picture with the black nail polish. You should have no problem passing.
Make-up takes practice. Check out the DivaDarlingChic and Gigi Gorgeous channels on YouTube.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on January 18, 2014, 06:52:34 PM
Hello all; I thought I'd post a few recent pictures of myself to get a feel for where I need to go from here. I've been on hormones for a year. FFS in on the horizon for me; I know my haircut isn't the best for trying to pass, but with hair as course as mine I'm really at my wits end in terms of growing it out. So here it goes-going by my profile picture and the ones I've posted here, how am I doing?
Horribly lit, I know, but this is me in my crazier makeup.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/114837356@N07/12021310774/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/114837356@N07/12021310774/)
Then these two are me without anything on, in warm lighting:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/114837356@N07/12021310924/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/114837356@N07/12021310924/)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/114837356@N07/12020957265/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/114837356@N07/12020957265/)
Thanks,
Sasha
I think you are doing great Sasha! Like the avatar too.
Quote from: Chic on January 18, 2014, 11:37:10 PM
Pre-everything, will I be able to pass eventually?
http://Instagram.com/heelchic
The B&W picture could be from a glamour magazine
http://instagram.com/p/jNTZSXrgH3/
Love it!
So!
um.
c'est moi.
what are your thoughts?
I know, my brows are kinda crazy.
And sorry for that wack duck face.
Oh! Side question, but it pertains to my upcoming transition:
do you think I could pull off blonde hair? I wanted to make that part of my overall change, eventually.
I was completely blonde until I was about 6, so I'm hoping it won't be too much of a stretch.
Alrighty.
Thanks ahead for any input.
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Quote from: Jamie D on January 20, 2014, 03:51:13 AM
The B&W picture could be from a glamour magazine
http://instagram.com/p/jNTZSXrgH3/
Love it!
Aww, thank you! That's really sweet :)
Quote from: music ♪ ♫ ♩ ♬ on January 20, 2014, 12:57:46 PM
So!
um.
c'est moi.
what are your thoughts?
I know, my brows are kinda crazy.
And sorry for that wack duck face.
Oh! Side question, but it pertains to my upcoming transition:
do you think I could pull off blonde hair? I wanted to make that part of my overall change, eventually.
I was completely blonde until I was about 6, so I'm hoping it won't be too much of a stretch.
Alrighty.
Thanks ahead for any input.
(https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1526658_498476763602343_280018216_n.jpg)
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Go for it!
I think you could look good blond.
But i like your hair now.
Your a cute gal.
Tho honestly, i cant stand duckfaces. In any way shape or form.
QuoteSo!
um.
c'est moi.
what are your thoughts?
Mes pensées sont que tu seras belle! :)Cute eyes and nose and aren't you blonde already? ::)
Quote from: music ♪ ♫ ♩ ♬ on January 20, 2014, 12:57:46 PM
So!
um.
c'est moi.
what are your thoughts?
I know, my brows are kinda crazy.
And sorry for that wack duck face.
Oh! Side question, but it pertains to my upcoming transition:
do you think I could pull off blonde hair? I wanted to make that part of my overall change, eventually.
I was completely blonde until I was about 6, so I'm hoping it won't be too much of a stretch.
Alrighty.
Thanks ahead for any input.
(https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1526658_498476763602343_280018216_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/1012065_498476766935676_730015341_n.jpg)
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Not the best quality pictures, hon, but I really like that middle one. It just speaks "female" to me. :)
Quote from: Phyliciaraine on December 19, 2013, 01:33:45 PM
Ok, so I'm pre HRT, going to start in a few months, I'm working on losing some more weight before I start. I'm wearing some natural make-up. Please let me know what you think.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi793.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy215%2Flafantasie05%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FIMG_20131102_214152_zpsuirgjky_edit_1387480862707_zpsimzd10k0.jpg&hash=03c797254ad8ba2a4f9c183b86f53a46a6372b4b)
I hope I posted the link right.
you look lovely now, HRT will only improve everything instead of fix. :)
Quote from: Jamie D on January 20, 2014, 03:37:06 AM
My first thought is why would a FtM post here?
Ummm, if you are MtF, you are way ahead of the game.
After the first few seconds of confusion I understood what you wrote and it made me smile widely. Thanks for the boost ;D
So, unni, you have not yet started hormone therapy? You are naturally feminine.
You do have an anrogyne face, music ♪ ♫ ♩ ♬. I'm sure that with the right regimen you'll do great!
No, Jamie, I haven't. Hopefully as soon as possible though. Thanks :)
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I think it is fine, in fact your face is very passable already in my humble opinion. Having said that if you still think it an issue you could get it reduced, but I would wait as long as you can (6-12 months) as you might not need to given your other female features.
Hi Cameron. Rhinoplasty is the second-most common cosmetic surgery, behind liposuction. If that is all you ever have to do, you are in great shape. I think your face is already on the feminine side. Let HRT do it's magic.
Quote from: Cameron on January 24, 2014, 12:16:02 AM
Hey everyone- took these pictures 2 days ago, took me until now to get over my nerves to post it :O 2 and 1/2 months on HRT, no makeup in these... I want to know what I should do about my nose and if it prevents me from passing. Everyone has made fun of my big nose my entire life, I'm quite self conscious about it...
Tinypic uploaded them sideways... anyone know how to fix that?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.tinypic.com%2Fmjxqvk.jpg&hash=e856c4072d5870fee6348b5385c1dbb677f927cf)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2F2n9xc8l.jpg&hash=34cac64244761b69ffc00ee36cefcbe2da2120c1)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi42.tinypic.com%2F14o9col.jpg&hash=2d89d55abffeff457269aad5a6d330e33844da8a)
Looking at your photos i honestly think that you look female from your first and third photos. I really wouldn't think anything at all other than very pretty female.
I just wanted to be honest because in the future if you wanted to get any work done it would be very minimal and quick to fix, and your only 2 and half months in! Wow give it some time, you really look great :)
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on December 01, 2013, 06:14:24 AM
Okiess, well after passing with the short hairstyle when I went out (I credit my voice), I decided to try doing my makeup, and I dunno, sumthin about short hair and makeup looks silly to me, obvs cuz I couldn't keep a straight face, lol:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7416%2F11149146526_cb3f993e9b_o.jpg&hash=c32da68b157e644ad662332620b9b2a4a0d7b339)
I liked the way I looked in the mirror muuch better, but still...not sure if makeup and pixie style hair go well together with my features. Also, I did a smokey eye with light, medium, and chocolate browns, and then liquid liner, mascara, and concealer/foundation. I'm kinda going for a Joan Jett/androgynous look.
how are you so perfect?
About twelve weeks on HRT. I know I really need to get my eyebrows done.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F49aPFCM.jpg&hash=0b1ba02f769f65583d7d715fde659706d352836c)
Quote from: EmilyGlass on January 26, 2014, 05:22:23 PM
About twelve weeks on HRT. I know I really need to get my eyebrows done.
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Such a naturally feminine and pretty face Emily!
Quote from: Shantel on January 26, 2014, 05:32:57 PM
Such a naturally feminine and pretty face Emily!
Thank you, Shantel.
Added some more pics. Pre-everything:
http://instagram.com/p/jrt03XrgKA/
http://instagram.com/p/jb_MZ3rgBM/
http://instagram.com/p/jrvCSHLgL7/
Quote from: Chic on January 27, 2014, 01:54:41 PM
Added some more pics. Pre-everything:
http://instagram.com/p/jrt03XrgKA/
http://instagram.com/p/jb_MZ3rgBM/
http://instagram.com/p/jrvCSHLgL7/
Just a doll face! The first one gets you smoochies! ;D
I think the thrid one is the cutest
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on January 27, 2014, 02:20:28 PM
Yep, the first one is the cutest :).
Absolutely. You are going to be a knock out with that gorgeous face.
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on January 27, 2014, 02:20:28 PM
Yep, the first one is the cutest :).
Quote from: FalsePrincess on January 27, 2014, 02:21:44 PM
I think the thrid one is the cutest
Quote from: Christine167 on January 27, 2014, 10:09:52 PM
Absolutely. You are going to be a knock out with that gorgeous face.
Quote from: Shantel on January 27, 2014, 02:11:47 PM
Just a doll face! The first one gets you smoochies! ;D
You guys are way too sweet! It's an honor to hear these things from beautiful women such as yourselves~ <3 I've always had this fear that my facial structure is really masculine so I'm glad you say I have a doll face. Once again thank you so much :)
Emily did you hear that? Chic thinks that False, you and I are beautiful.
I don't know about you ladies but I think I'm on cloud 9 right now. ;)
Quote from: Christine167 on January 27, 2014, 10:21:22 PM
Emily did you hear that? Chic thinks that False, you and I are beautiful.
I don't know about you ladies but I think I'm on cloud 9 right now. ;)
Oh, stop! :D I couldn't lie to a face that pretty! You have many natural feminine features, and your makeup application is great as well. That blue eyeshadow is to die for.
Edit: Oh my god. I thought you meant "False" as in saying I was lying, I didn't know you meant "FalsePrincess". Oops
Hey Ho,
I'm neeeeeeeeeeeeeew -wave frantically-
I'm 26 and I've been on HRT for just over 3 weeks now, so allot of work still to go, but hey need to start somewhere right? ^^
My bog standard look(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FS1UHaF6.jpg&hash=78ca57ae64dc8929f9b22bdbbd9274e5ac79fe66)
My "Silly Diva" Look(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FACDvorQ.jpg&hash=c6dad25b418eba0b760ed35235dde400aa2b013a)
My "I'm not crazy! Honest!" Look(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrBHZD8z.jpg&hash=9fae5ff10e00d1601c9f614f5ce546ff3e49e690)
List of things to improve so far...
- Hair!: Getting some regrowth with the HRT as I have some slight Male Pattern Baldness going on, should take care of itself hopefully, and I am going to be seeing a stylist tomorrow! -squee-
- Girl Glasses?: See: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,158598.0.html
- Eyebrows: So thick, so manly, so blegh
- More Make-up Practice: The eyeliner! It's scary! I feel like I am going to poke my eye out! (long sightedness doesn't help -.-')
- FFS?: I feel most dysphoric about my heavy set caveman brow :S Not sure if FFS will be in my future
So what's the prognosis?
Danniella
I think your prognosis is great.
Your skin already seems soft and feminine
Your posture is feminine
You don't seem to have a very manly build up on the upper body and your adams apple is nowhere to be seen.
Your face has many great features to start out with also.
I suggest giving HRT at least a year or so before you try FFS. Miracles has happened where the fat fills out to hide the brow
Quote from: eloij on January 28, 2014, 08:53:55 AM
Danniella
I think your prognosis is great.
Your skin already seems soft and feminine
Your posture is feminine
You don't seem to have a very manly build up on the upper body and your adams apple is nowhere to be seen.
Your face has many great features to start out with also.
I suggest giving HRT at least a year or so before you try FFS. Miracles has happened where the fat fills out to hide the brow
Thanks <3
I'm not sure about the no adam's apple bit, I think that's just a rather good angle and lighting, in the wrong lighting it looks downright hideous -.-'
I didn't think on the softening of the face when it came to reducing the brow prominence though! Something new to consider, I don't think I will be jumping into FFS any time soon anyway, but this gives me a bit more hope at least.
Changing to a more femineine framed glasses would help as well. trim the eyebrows too. But overall you look great! Very cute!
Quote from: Danniella on January 28, 2014, 08:38:38 AM
Hey Ho,
I'm neeeeeeeeeeeeeew -wave frantically-
I'm 26 and I've been on HRT for just over 3 weeks now, so allot of work still to go, but hey need to start somewhere right? ^^
My bog standard look
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FS1UHaF6.jpg&hash=78ca57ae64dc8929f9b22bdbbd9274e5ac79fe66)
My "Silly Diva" Look
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FACDvorQ.jpg&hash=c6dad25b418eba0b760ed35235dde400aa2b013a)
My "I'm not crazy! Honest!" Look
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrBHZD8z.jpg&hash=9fae5ff10e00d1601c9f614f5ce546ff3e49e690)
List of things to improve so far...
- Hair!: Getting some regrowth with the HRT as I have some slight Male Pattern Baldness going on, should take care of itself hopefully, and I am going to be seeing a stylist tomorrow! -squee-
- Girl Glasses?: See: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,158598.0.html
- Eyebrows: So thick, so manly, so blegh
- More Make-up Practice: The eyeliner! It's scary! I feel like I am going to poke my eye out! (long sightedness doesn't help -.-')
- FFS?: I feel most dysphoric about my heavy set caveman brow :S Not sure if FFS will be in my future
So what's the prognosis?
I think with longer hair and more feminine glasses, you could pass for sure. You're really cute already, though. :)
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From what I can see in your avatar yes you do pass Catherine. You look like a lovely proper lady.
Quote from: Mr Hockey on January 29, 2014, 06:41:13 AM
I think with longer hair and more feminine glasses, you could pass for sure. You're really cute already, though. :)
Quote from: Sona~TS on January 28, 2014, 05:51:19 PM
Changing to a more femineine framed glasses would help as well. trim the eyebrows too. But overall you look great! Very cute!
People think I'm cute? I don't know how to process this information! I may need to go to a working man's pub or something to get some insults hurled at me, just to keep me humble of course.
New glasses are definitely on the cards now though...just got to pick the riiiiight ones >.>
Quote from: Christine167 on January 29, 2014, 07:39:52 AM
From what I can see in your avatar yes you do pass Catherine. You look like a lovely proper lady.
Thank you Christine.
I'm a naughty girl. I posted that with a very large tongue in my cheek.
Quote from: Catherine Sarah on January 29, 2014, 07:08:59 AM
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You totally pass! Your profile pic looks great. :)
Some new purchases, small steps towards passing!
Cheap fashion wig (Trying to see how I like the length)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1knJXxQ.jpg&hash=2e70ca6cc7f09f117354faa10379f59aa356fb98)
Boots and Jeans
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfJWdO2k.jpg&hash=a132455f33ca95d2b140c5dffa1590c34dd4174c)
New Skirt+Tights
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FN9WAYLa.jpg&hash=d242033c7091689f3f2831ae52617924139f9f77)
I love disposable income ^^
Quote from: Catherine Sarah on January 29, 2014, 08:04:30 AM
Thank you Christine.
I'm a naughty girl. I posted that with a very large tongue in my cheek.
You are naughty Catherine Sarah, but we already knew that! :D In spite of that fact, I do think you look like any middle-aged cis female that I might run into at the market. :icon_wave:
Quote from: Danniella on January 29, 2014, 09:55:37 AM
Some new purchases, small steps towards passing!
Nice long stems on you Danniella, I like your sense of fashion and style.
Quote from: Danniella on January 29, 2014, 09:55:37 AM
I love disposable income ^^
It would always be nice to have more. It takes $$$ to build and maintain a decent wardrobe.
Quote from: Danniella on January 29, 2014, 09:55:37 AM
Some new purchases, small steps towards passing!
Cheap fashion wig (Trying to see how I like the length)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1knJXxQ.jpg&hash=2e70ca6cc7f09f117354faa10379f59aa356fb98)
Boots and Jeans
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New Skirt+Tights
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I love disposable income ^^
Wow! You look a lot like my ex-girlfriend when she dyed her hair red.
You're very pretty. :) I still think you pass well.
Quote from: Mr Hockey on January 29, 2014, 10:03:03 AM
Wow! You look a lot like my ex-girlfriend when she dyed her hair red.
You're very pretty. :) I still think you pass well.
Thanks ^^#
Not sure if I would be able to carry off such a bold colour on a day to day basis...but I do love it! Hopefully my real hair can get to that stage one day -toes crossed-...You cross your toes for luck right?
It is somewhat distressing though that my only piece of girl jewelry is a piece of Bioshock Infinite merchandise >.>
Quote from: Shantel on January 29, 2014, 09:56:57 AM
You are naughty Catherine Sarah, but we already knew that! :D In spite of that fact, I do think you look like any middle-aged cis female that I might run into at the market. :icon_wave:
WOO HOO!!! I'm goin' to the markets right this second. Yup. Even at 3:00am :D
Middle aged?? Not sure how I take that Shantel. I guess if I take the average life span of a woman to be 84, then middle aged puts me at 40 odd (you're on my Christmas card list) However I intend going to about 120, which makes middle age round 60. Hummmm (you're still on my Christmas card list, but you'll have to pay the postage :D)
Damn. Don't you just hate it when your reputation precedes you? Me? Naughty? Naaaah. I'm way too innocent for that. ;D :angel:
Huggs
Catherine
Quote from: Catherine Sarah on January 29, 2014, 10:09:15 AM
WOO HOO!!! I'm goin' to the markets right this second. Yup. Even at 3:00am :D
Middle aged?? Not sure how I take that Shantel. I guess if I take the average life span of a woman to be 84, then middle aged puts me at 40 odd (you're on my Christmas card list) However I intend going to about 120, which makes middle age round 60. Hummmm (you're still on my Christmas card list, but you'll have to pay the postage :D)
Damn. Don't you just hate it when your reputation precedes you? Me? Naughty? Naaaah. I'm way too innocent for that. ;D :angel:
Huggs
Catherine
:D :laugh: :icon_peace:
Quote from: Shantel on January 29, 2014, 10:12:13 AM
:D :laugh: :icon_peace:
:icon_lol: :icon_mrhappy: :icon_lol: :icon_hug:
Quote from: Jill E on January 29, 2014, 08:25:24 AM
You totally pass! Your profile pic looks great. :)
Thank you Jill.
I just had a naughty streak hit me. I did that VERY tongue in cheek. >:-). :angel: NOT!!
Huggs
Catherine
Would i pass? (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FubUOFoJ.jpg&hash=a1a8b70b7c2e0a02916bda3a3abef3f3ffb77ac8) wearing an old boys shirt of mine xD
Quote from: Chris29 on January 29, 2014, 02:14:58 PM
Would i pass? (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FubUOFoJ.jpg&hash=a1a8b70b7c2e0a02916bda3a3abef3f3ffb77ac8) wearing an old boys shirt of mine xD
yes
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yes!
Quote from: Chris29 on January 29, 2014, 02:14:58 PM
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As male?
Don't think so.
You would definitely pass as female Chris29. :)
Quote from: Catherine Sarah on January 29, 2014, 07:08:59 AM
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Yes, yes you do :)
Quote from: Natallie553 on January 29, 2014, 06:12:17 PM
Yes, yes you do :)
Thank you so much Natallie. It was interesting to see how the "quote" worked out, so well for you. And indeed you certainly do, my dear. Keep up the good work. You're doing so well.
Huggs
Catherine
Pre everything... So...
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Could i pass?
CUTE!!!!
Of course! very sexy young lady! Love your lips!
Quote from: Cindy on January 30, 2014, 02:20:23 AM
Of course! very sexy young lady! Love your lips!
Ohmygod thank you so much! You dont know how much that means to me. ^__^
Girl when you get on HRT you are going to rock the world!
Quote from: Emo on January 30, 2014, 02:05:52 AM
Pre everything... So...
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Could i pass?
Hi Emo,
In answer to your question. Abso-bloody-lutely. There's no contest. You already do pass.
Gawd girl you have everything working for you. Jaw line, lips, nose, hair. And you're still pre everything. You've certainly been born with all the right attributes. HT is only going to put the final polish on.
Huggs
Catherine
Quote from: Cindy on January 30, 2014, 02:29:51 AM
Girl when you get on HRT you are going to rock the world!
^__^ im so excited.
Quote from: Shantel on January 30, 2014, 08:49:06 AM
More than that, Emo's a doll already!
Thanks! :D
Quote from: Catherine Sarah on January 30, 2014, 08:52:15 AM
Hi Emo,
In answer to your question. Abso-bloody-lutely. There's no contest. You already do pass.
Gawd girl you have everything working for you. Jaw line, lips, nose, hair. And you're still pre everything. You've certainly been born with all the right attributes. HT is only going to put the final polish on.
Huggs
Catherine
I always hated it because i thought i looked too masculine. Weird...
Hi Emo,
Quote from: Emo on January 30, 2014, 09:11:11 AM
I always hated it because i thought i looked too masculine. Weird...
Yes. In your own words, weird. I see absolutely no, I repeat, NO masculinity in your face at all.
This perception may come from your "brain vision." Once you start HT, oestrogen will correct that vision, very quickly.
Keep up the good work.
Huggs
Catherine
EMO! Is that really you! OMG you are so adorable. I have no idea where you are getting ANY masculine features. You could go Full Time right now, I am so envious!!! ;)
Quote from: Catherine Sarah on January 30, 2014, 09:19:45 AM
Hi Emo,
Yes. In your own words, weird. I see absolutely no, I repeat, NO masculinity in your face at all.
This perception may come from your "brain vision." Once you start HT, oestrogen will correct that vision, very quickly.
Keep up the good work.
Huggs
Catherine
I actually tried explaining that to my friend.
It confused my brain because i was trying to see me and someone else at the same time. Its an odd feeling.
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on January 30, 2014, 09:39:49 AM
EMO! Is that really you! OMG you are so adorable. I have no idea where you are getting ANY masculine features. You could go Full Time right now, I am so envious!!! ;)
I wish i could go full time. Unfortunately, im not confident enough yet. Plus i dont have the right body shape.
Quote from: Emo on January 30, 2014, 09:44:17 AM
i dont have the right body shape.
Problem solved Emo. Check in with a fashion consultant. They'll rectify that problem straight away.
Huggs
Catherine
Quote from: Emo on January 30, 2014, 02:05:52 AM
Pre everything... So...
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Could i pass?
you should make a video of your transition and amaze everyone
I second the above motion.
Quote from: Catherine Sarah on January 29, 2014, 11:38:31 PM
Thank you so much Natallie. It was interesting to see how the "quote" worked out, so well for you. And indeed you certainly do, my dear. Keep up the good work. You're doing so well.
Huggs
Catherine
Ahh miss tricky tricky, I didnt even notice that. lol Thank you ^_^
Quote from: Emo on January 30, 2014, 02:05:52 AM
Pre everything... So...
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Could i pass?
Very cute! The hair looks nice on you.
Quote from: Serena Lynn on December 15, 2013, 07:24:30 PM
You are a very handsome guy. Pretty boys make beautiful women I think you'll be fine. STOP lifting weights though take it from me. I did what you did its taking forevers for my biceps to shrink.
Weights are fine as long as you cut your calorie intake and increase reps. In fact, it's a great method for
reducing muscle mass.
I plan on starting HRT in May. How effective do you think it will be with the feminization of my face?
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You are cute now so I don't think you will have much of and issue at all. You will most likely be a hottie! ;)
Absolutely agree with Samantha!
Emo you are damn adorable now, I like the hair.
Yuki cute boys usually become beautiful women on HRT. You should do fabulous; you have wonderful bone structure.
tried a new makeup and hair look wat yall think? do I still look like a girl?
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Quote from: Angélique LaCava on February 01, 2014, 10:44:56 PM
tried new makeup and hair look wat yall think? do I still look like a girl?
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I would kill for your cheeks, nose, oh hmm, everything :)
You look fab girlfriend !
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on February 01, 2014, 10:44:56 PM
tried q new makeup and hair look wat yall think? do I still look like a girl?
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lets rephrase that question,
are you hot chick? heck yes
would i jump your bones if i had the chance? oh hell ya lol
Hey i am Anisha,21 from India .Can i pass?Please give me suggestions on to look better.Which of the pics are the best?
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Yours Anisha,
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on February 01, 2014, 10:44:56 PM
tried a new makeup and hair look wat yall think? do I still look like a girl?
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You're passing. No doubt in that!
Anisha, I think you pass just fine! Your cutest pictures to me are 4,1 and 3.
Angelique, totally pass! Very pretty!
Quote from: Just Shelly on January 09, 2014, 07:51:13 PM
I have always been very self conscious of my veiny arms....they aren't quite this bad....but Angelina's aren't all the time either! Mine do tend to appear like this in the summer mostly but really any time it can happen.
I do think if I put on some weight it may help....one minute I'm eating Twinkies hoping to add some weight...the next I'm counting calories and going to gym more. The thing is I don't think I look skinny at all!! I wish I could see what others see!
I know I am no way over weight 130# at 5'6.5" tall and I can fit in many petite clothing but I just don't see it.
Hi ,
I have veiny arms too ( not just my arms are veiny), but I guess in my case is because I used to be a 'bodybuilder' , I trained a lot and I valued the veins , as the bigger they are the better the muscles are oxygenated and feed . I used Arginine and other nitric oxide precursors too enhance the veins dilatation . I also have this low body fat index so a lot of factors were involved .
Also it is about temperature , of course when it is summer and hot , the veins will expand drastically for the body cooling purpose.
Now I don't train basically at all , excepting my lower body .
I hope hrt will give me some subcutaneous fat that will fade the veins .
Also I caffeine and cigarettes have some vein-constrictor effect , but I don't do that .
I had a pretty good physique when I was in my 20's, was in the paratroops and could knock out 20 crisp pushups clapping my hands between each so my arms had pronounced muscles and veins. Now that I'm much older and have been on HRT for a long while the muscles are gone and my arms are basically two spaghetti noodles with hands attached, the lab technician is lucky to find a vein on the first attempt at a blood draw. Your bodies will change that drastically!
Quote from: Anisha on February 02, 2014, 01:40:21 AM
Hey i am Anisha,21 from India .Can i pass?Please give me suggestions on to look better.Which of the pics are the best?
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Yours Anisha,
They are all good Anisha, I like this one best! I don't know how well or not you would pass looks wise in India, but here in the US you would pass very nicely and you are quite naturally pretty too!
Quote from: oh hai! on February 01, 2014, 10:48:28 PM
I would kill for your cheeks, nose, oh hmm, everything :)
You look fab girlfriend !
Angelique
I like the natural look! ;)
Quote from: kiara jamie on February 01, 2014, 11:35:28 PM
lets rephrase that question,
are you hot chick? heck yes
would i jump your bones if i had the chance? oh hell ya lol
:o
Quote from: Anisha on February 02, 2014, 01:40:21 AM
Hey i am Anisha,21 from India .Can i pass?Please give me suggestions on to look better.Which of the pics are the best?
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Surely this is a picture of your sister or something. ;D
Totally passable here, there and probably everywhere! ;)
Quote from: Anisha on February 02, 2014, 01:40:21 AM
Hey i am Anisha,21 from India .Can i pass?Please give me suggestions on to look better.Which of the pics are the best?
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Yours Anisha,
very pretty . I like your choices in dresses
Quote from: Anisha on February 02, 2014, 01:40:21 AM
Hey i am Anisha,21 from India .Can i pass?Please give me suggestions on to look better.Which of the pics are the best?
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Yours Anisha,
Hello Anisha,
Yes you can pass! You are very pretty already,HRT will do wonders on you! You will be a knock out soon enough! ;)
Quote from: stephaniec on January 30, 2014, 11:06:26 AM
you should make a video of your transition and amaze everyone
how would i go about doing this?
Quote from: Emo on February 04, 2014, 01:48:25 AM
how would i go about doing this?
you ve seen those transition videos where a totally normal "guy" becomes a super hot girl...
you can do something similar :P
i think she means what software she would need to use?
Windows video maker could be ok
Quote from: Emo on February 04, 2014, 01:48:25 AM
how would i go about doing this?
Quote from: Bardoux on February 04, 2014, 08:30:45 AM
i think she means what software she would need to use?
Windows video maker could be ok
I'm a digital artist by trade, and I'd be happy to help put together a transition video if you wanted.
Been planning my own transition video for a while now, and I came out to my (admittedly huge family) using a video I made explaining gender dysphoria and what it means for me :D
angelique I am officially jealous.
Okay, so I'm mixed up in a bit of a conundrum at the moment. My boss at work has basically told me that my hair is getting too long, and long hair isn't allowed on guys according to the rules (nor are ponytails, so I can't just tie it back, I'd basically have to find a way to tuck it up and under and make a little "pouch" back there, which would basically make it look like I don't have long hair at all,) and she's probably also going to tell me that I can't wear earrings anymore before long, because those aren't allowed either. This same manager also already knows that I'm trans, and is expecting me to transition at some point. So that is not an obstacle. I'm already out, and therefore am not going to get fired or harassed by management when I finally do make the official switch. They're expecting it, and have already offered to make sure I'm not harassed once I do.
I've been toying with the idea of possibly going full-time for the last few weeks, because I feel like I'm getting to that point where my default appearance is becoming female enough. The main issue holding me back is just fear. Afraid that I don't look female enough to be accepted, afraid that people would just laugh at me, afraid that my 6'2" height and large body frame would instantly make everyone stare at me, etc, etc, fear, fear, fear. I know I'm going to just have to bite the bullet and get it over with eventually if I really am going to make it, though.
So my question is this... here's a video that I just recorded a few weeks ago. In this video, I am making NO effort whatsoever to be feminine. I'm just using my natural speaking voice, this is my natural hair, I'm not wearing any padding or makeup whatsoever, no anything. This is what I look like when I've done nothing but roll out of bed, take a shower, get dressed, and go straight to work.
What do you all think? Do I look female enough to seriously start considering going full-time? I haven't really had an impetus to get on with it for quite a while now, because I was still able to freely display my long hair and earrings and enjoy my femininity. But now that I'm basically being forced to stifle it, I feel like that's the kind of impetus I need, but again, I'm just afraid that I'm not far enough along yet. What do you all think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F_vDWgAyPI
0:00 - Front View
0:50 - 3/4 view (from right)
1:20 - Side view (from right)
1:35 - 3/4 view (from left)
Also, I have indeed been gendered female a few times in this work uniform, even with a nametag that still says "Charlie." Two people have given me "her... um, I mean him," one person used female pronouns blatantly, and yesterday one of the players called me "sweetheart." So there's definite external signs that some people are starting to think I'm female. But again, I'm just scared that I'm not female enough, that I'm still going to be shunned and quarantined. So opinions would me much appreciated.
If I looked, acted and sounded as good as you I would.
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Quote from: Caysee Danielle on February 04, 2014, 09:56:38 AM
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Wow look at you! Yes you are moving into that realm and it looks like you've been working on those super bushy eyebrows. Very nice Caysee!
Thanks Shan! Actually I still haven't taken care of the eyebrows, they just look thinner when they aren't raised up.
Quote from: Caysee Danielle on February 04, 2014, 10:22:09 AM
Thanks Shan! Actually I still haven't taken care of the eyebrows, they just look thinner when they aren't raised up.
Well you're looking great, I like the top you're wearing too!
It's actually a men's Tshirt I got for free that's a little too big that I cut the neckline out.
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I certainly believe that you could pass as female in the future. There are some things in the picture that makes you look a bit male though.
When I watch your picture it looks as if you have a 5-o'clock shadow. Your eyebrows look good, maybe they need a bit more trimming. Otherwise you look good!
Thanks, I hopefully will be getting laser soon and fixing my eyebrows sometime this week.
Carrie: Thanks for posting a full video with sound an everything, so we don't have to assume details.
Honestly, I couldn't imagine you passing as a guy. You are pretty close to "male fail".
And CHarlie can be a girl's name, so that didn't even make a difference.
If you were wearing makeup I doubt I'd clock you.
Quote from: Carrie Liz on February 04, 2014, 09:43:46 AM
Also, I have indeed been gendered female a few times in this work uniform, even with a nametag that still says "Charlie." Two people have given me "her... um, I mean him," one person used female pronouns blatantly, and yesterday one of the players called me "sweetheart." So there's definite external signs that some people are starting to think I'm female. But again, I'm just scared that I'm not female enough, that I'm still going to be shunned and quarantined. So opinions would me much appreciated.
Honestly you look exactly like a female I work with. Really your faces are near perfect matches! Just put on some eye make-up and nails then your good to go. Plus your voice isnt manly, so congrats :angel:
So I posted here a few years back, and then hurried back in the closet.. Had my first appointment with my therapist today, and I'm making things happen. Easy on the eyebrows, my wife has the wax pot heating up as I type. I've passed before dressed up but hopefully 2 years of age haven't ruined my girl-a-bility.
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@sictransitkira
eyebrows: you know it yet :)
grow your hair (takes time!)
smile...
and you are there. ;D
Quote from: Carrie Liz on February 04, 2014, 09:43:46 AM
So my question is this... here's a video that I just recorded a few weeks ago. In this video, I am making NO effort whatsoever to be feminine. I'm just using my natural speaking voice, this is my natural hair, I'm not wearing any padding or makeup whatsoever, no anything. This is what I look like when I've done nothing but roll out of bed, take a shower, get dressed, and go straight to work.
What do you all think? Do I look female enough to seriously start considering going full-time? I haven't really had an impetus to get on with it for quite a while now, because I was still able to freely display my long hair and earrings and enjoy my femininity. But now that I'm basically being forced to stifle it, I feel like that's the kind of impetus I need, but again, I'm just afraid that I'm not far enough along yet. What do you all think?
Also, I have indeed been gendered female a few times in this work uniform, even with a nametag that still says "Charlie." Two people have given me "her... um, I mean him," one person used female pronouns blatantly, and yesterday one of the players called me "sweetheart." So there's definite external signs that some people are starting to think I'm female. But again, I'm just scared that I'm not female enough, that I'm still going to be shunned and quarantined. So opinions would me much appreciated.
WTF is this??? What girl gets out of bed and expects to look her best? No woman just wakes up and takes a shower and forgets to get everything else ready. You know this. You owe it to make a fair comparison. Make a vid in your best presentation and then compare. You already have the skills!
You have the role of a power figure in your work relationship. Your customers expect you to be the authority as the dealer. They're not going to question you. Your job is to be robotic (at least to a degree) so you have a huge advantage in that regard. Your height won't mean anything because your clients are seated and again, YOU ARE THE AUTHORITY. Own it. And if anyone gives you ->-bleeped-<- you can always have them kicked to the curb. You're in charge.
Geez girl, I'm such a fan of yours. I want to see you rock it. You can make this happen. Even your bosses are like "ok, let's get this going." You're an inspiration and a champion and a hero. Go smile when you introduce yourself. I have the faith in you!!!
I'm sorry, I just... still really don't know what the hell I'm supposed to do to feminize myself, and I'm too scared to try.
I'd say you are very feminine already Carrie. You are on a weight loss program; why not wait to see the results from that before losing hope. Your face changes dramatically with it as well your body features. Increased health, increased energy and increased confidence and all that. Hold the line girl!
Quote from: Marina mtf on February 06, 2014, 12:09:43 AM
@sictransitkira
eyebrows: you know it yet :)
grow your hair (takes time!)
smile...
and you are there. ;D
Eyebrows are in check now, hair is growing luckily I don't have any MPB, and I need a little dental work but the smile will come out!
Carrie....Some thoughts...
- Wear something with a deeper neck and show more skin around your neck and shoulders
- angle your head better. Imagine someone is pulling your head up from the back at the top with a piece of string
- shoulders should be back.
- You have a little brow ridge. Bangs will help. Preferably go to a good hair stylist and show them all the bits you want to hide and let them do their magic.
- ear rings. Preferably big hoop ones.
Job done ;-)
- contour and a touch more make up.
Quote from: sictransitkira on February 05, 2014, 08:11:00 PM
So I posted here a few years back, and then hurried back in the closet.. Had my first appointment with my therapist today, and I'm making things happen. Easy on the eyebrows, my wife has the wax pot heating up as I type. I've passed before dressed up but hopefully 2 years of age haven't ruined my girl-a-bility.
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You have a somewhat noticeable mustache, but I'm sure that you've considered laser/electrolysis!
Carrie, I have a similar brow ridge and swept bangs has done wonders for me! You might like to give that a try. Or even just bangs. That made a world for difference for me as well when I had them.
Quote from: Carrie Liz on February 06, 2014, 08:26:04 AM
I'm sorry, I just... still really don't know what the hell I'm supposed to do to feminize myself, and I'm too scared to try.
Quote from: 930310 on February 06, 2014, 12:15:57 PM
You have a somewhat noticeable mustache, but I'm sure that you've considered laser/electrolysis!
Yeah luckily that picture is from 3 or 4 days since shaving, so that's about as bad as it gets. It's decently dark against my light complexion too so a few laser sessions should do the trick!
Carrie I say go for it!! Like everyone else said you're very feminine and as one put it "male fail" (<I like that one :P ) Once I started dressing in complete womans clothing I got more looks but wow my confidence soared!! I was nervous too, but once I just went with it, I actually felt less anxious around others, and it has given me a LOT more confidence, and I actually feel proud now to be transgender, it's not something I'm scared of anymore :)
Basically I think once you just go for it, you'll feel great about it and just feel better about yourself! I also think your manager sees in you what we see and that she is nudging you in the right direction ;)
Quote from: TiffanyT on February 06, 2014, 01:20:21 AM
No woman just wakes up and takes a shower and forgets to get everything else ready. You know this. You owe it to make a fair comparison. Make a vid in your best presentation and then compare. You already have the skills!
Also... this... what do you mean "everything else?" I'm going to be honest, I really don't know what you're talking about. Makeup maybe, but what else? It seems like everyone else has this huge feminization routine that they go through, where I honestly don't know what the hell I'm doing. You mention making a video that's my "best presentation..." well, I really don't have a "best presentation." I don't know what the hell I'm doing. I had a mom whose idea of a hairstyle was getting a fem-mullet so that she didn't have to fuss with it, and she never wore makeup, and I never had any sisters or anything, so I've just never been exposed to femininity my entire life. I've never been around makeup or hair products or jewelry or anything feminine, and I have no idea what the hell I'm doing. Aside from maybe wearing a different pair of earrings, or makeup (which I've still only worn once in my entire life,) that really was my best presentation. :/
I could really use some help on that. When it comes to anything feminine appearance-wise, I'm completely lost.
Carrie- I think you pass super well already. Your face and body without a doubt! Voice might throw me off a bit, but pretty unnoticeable really. You are so adorable!!!! However, I was wondering, was the video supposed to be you presenting as male or female? All I saw was female in that video, so if that is how you generally present at work, looks like you're already doing it :) Once you're hair gets to a more styleable length, you are going to look totally fabulous.
I'm with you on the everything else... I have no idea what it is, and I grew up in a house where I was one of three sisters! Rolling out of bed and heading to work/school is what I do, and on the rare occasion I'll straighten my bangs, if I had a rough nights sleep. Besides that, the only beauty advise I could give you is... if you get dry skin use a facial moisturizer, not regular hand lotion (I've done it, it gives you zits >.<).
Plus, the way I see it, when you go out in makeup, people develop an expectation... and then it feels like you can't go out of the house without makeup. It's a bad cycle, imo. You look beautiful as your natural self already.
Quote from: Carrie Liz on February 04, 2014, 09:43:46 AM
Okay, so I'm mixed up in a bit of a conundrum at the moment. My boss at work has basically told me that my hair is getting too long, and long hair isn't allowed on guys according to the rules (nor are ponytails, so I can't just tie it back, I'd basically have to find a way to tuck it up and under and make a little "pouch" back there, which would basically make it look like I don't have long hair at all,) and she's probably also going to tell me that I can't wear earrings anymore before long, because those aren't allowed either. This same manager also already knows that I'm trans, and is expecting me to transition at some point. So that is not an obstacle. I'm already out, and therefore am not going to get fired or harassed by management when I finally do make the official switch. They're expecting it, and have already offered to make sure I'm not harassed once I do.
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Also, I have indeed been gendered female a few times in this work uniform, even with a nametag that still says "Charlie." Two people have given me "her... um, I mean him," one person used female pronouns blatantly, and yesterday one of the players called me "sweetheart." So there's definite external signs that some people are starting to think I'm female. But again, I'm just scared that I'm not female enough, that I'm still going to be shunned and quarantined. So opinions would me much appreciated.
I think you nail it. I think "male fail" is very appropriate. If I were at a casino and you were dealing I wouldn't think twice about you being male or female. I'd think female-unhesitatingly.
Carrie you have done very well already you need to give yourself a bit more credit for how far you have come so far. Some makeup, nail polish, and ear rings would help if you don't know how to apply the make up there are very good videos on YouTube.
Emily.T xx
Quote from: Carrie Liz on February 06, 2014, 08:49:28 PM
Also... this... what do you mean "everything else?" I'm going to be honest, I really don't know what you're talking about. Makeup maybe, but what else? It seems like everyone else has this huge feminization routine that they go through, where I honestly don't know what the hell I'm doing. You mention making a video that's my "best presentation..." well, I really don't have a "best presentation." I don't know what the hell I'm doing. I had a mom whose idea of a hairstyle was getting a fem-mullet so that she didn't have to fuss with it, and she never wore makeup, and I never had any sisters or anything, so I've just never been exposed to femininity my entire life. I've never been around makeup or hair products or jewelry or anything feminine, and I have no idea what the hell I'm doing. Aside from maybe wearing a different pair of earrings, or makeup (which I've still only worn once in my entire life,) that really was my best presentation. :/
I could really use some help on that. When it comes to anything feminine appearance-wise, I'm completely lost.
Everything else just means all the stuff. Make up, hair, nails, jewelry etc. The things you do to treat yourself like a lady.
"Best presentation" was meant to see your most feminine approach for your job. Your video lacked any enthusiasm or make up or smile or anything else.
I get that you have different role models or experiences in your life. I'm so not trying to pick on you or anything. I think the world of you. My point is you're doing the tough stuff, the easy stuff is no problem. You spent a year hrt, you can tackle make up in a week. You're so pretty and have so much potential and have done so much. It breaks my heart to see you question yourself like this.
It's in you. People here see it. You don't because your experience with female role models is different. But it's in you and you're ready.
I'm so sorry if I'm offending you. I don't mean it that way. I just want to see you happy.
@Carrie Honestly I think you look fine. Yet if you really want to wear makeup try these three products to start with as I feel you are blessed with nice even toned skin. So less is more for you. I used ms paint to do a quick picture for you as an example too. Its not perfect but it might give you a hint as to what I mean.
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These are good cheap starter makeups to use everyday at work.
Iman rich red $6Aus (lipstick) it suits your mouth shape I think :)
Chanel tweed bronze $15Aus (blusher) its not heavy and highlights your nice skin tone, as it is just below your cheek bones/shape so it contours it nicely while not being over the top ;)
Australis mascara $4Aus (it is a flat black so it looks natural and not shiny)
Keep in mind I am not on HRT or a makeup expert so I am only going by what I seen my older sisters do >.<
Carrie- first off, I'm kind of surprised you aren't full time already. I don't see all of your posts, but when they pop up, you sound so confident and encouraging, that I just sort of assumed you were already full swing into things!
Quote from: Carrie Liz on February 06, 2014, 08:49:28 PM
I could really use some help on that. When it comes to anything feminine appearance-wise, I'm completely lost.
I absolutely hear where you're coming from. While I do have a sister very close to my age, she never dove deep into makeup and jewelry. This, plus living with five guys, I always felt uncomfortable, like I
should be doing more "feminine" routines. But honestly? I'm so much more comfortable with minimal makeup, no jewelry, no nail polish, etc. They're nice on occasion, but it's just not me, and I wouldn't worry about having a minimal morning routine.
To illustrate, my routine is:
- Shower (face cleanser & exfoliate, condition hair)
- dress
- brush in argan oil and flatiron hair
- shave (if necessary)
- foundation/cover up
Not very much, and I know my sister does even less- no need to shave, no makeup, and just blow-dries her hair. It's just about doing what makes
you feel comfortable and ready for the day.
Okay, I definitely owe everyone a BIG thank you for all of the help, and all of the honest opinions. You were all amazingly helpful! :)
I'll put my basic routine down here as well. I'm the youngest of 5 with 2 sisters and a very girly mom whom I used to play with makeup and hair etc. Working in the beauty industry for over 12+ years doesn't hurt either ;)
Basic:
- Bathe and shave
- Apply facial moisturizer, one with SPF is best or you can layer an SPF over any moisturizer then apply a makeup primer (used especially when my skin is super dry or post laser)
- Get dressed so that I don't get all my make up done than have to possibly get makeup all over my dress, this has totally happened and can start your day off grumpy :P
- Put on beard cover (dermablend) sparingly and dab and pat, don't spread it on! If you don't have dermablend use concealer with same technique.
- Liquid foundation everywhere but sparingly over beard cover, mainly just blend it out
- Mineral powder over entire face to finish, or you could use a translucent setting powder. Using a kabuki or powder brush, NOT a makeup sponge, application is key for a more airbrushed look. Swirl brush in powder tap excess off and buff the powder on in a circular motion, may take a few layers. I perfer pressed powder it's way less messy. Also apply it everywhere including eyelids, especially if you're not going to wear eyeshadow of any sort.
- Apply a very soft shade of blush or bronzer, it's very very easy to overdue it. If it's too colorful apply another round of mineral powder just over the parts you used too much blush.
- I use a dark brown eyeshadow and a tiny detail brush to fill in my eyebrows. Using eye shadow is a lot more natural looking then eyebrow pencil.
- Apply mascara
- Apply a lip stain or tinted lip balm. I like a bold lip and usually go for a bright red or brick red. That's just me though since I don't like messing with eye shadow, unless I have some time.
- Than I do my hair which is a whole other routine. Basically I just triple barrel my hair as it is stick straight and super fine like corn silk and pin and hairspray it :)
Sounds like a lot but I do this in about 10-15 minutes :) Hope this helps
EDIT: Depending on what you decide lip wise, I wanted to also say that a lip brush is my best friend I don't go anywhere without it!! Since I do a bold lip, the lip brush helps to soften the lip line, and makes for a flawless smooth edge. So after eating and such have a lip brush on you at all times will ensure a perfect pout throughout the day :-*
As soon as I figure out how to put pictures here (Gosh I did not even find out how to upload an avatar!!), I will gladly do it :)
Here I am, 29 y\o, pre HRT, (I will start next week !! ;D
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another one with brows make up
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Quote from: Allyson on February 09, 2014, 08:47:26 PM
As soon as I figure out how to put pictures here (Gosh I did not even find out how to upload an avatar!!), I will gladly do it :)
Allyson, you need to link to a photo off site. And you can only put up an avatar after you hit 15 posts :)
Quote from: Inazuma on February 09, 2014, 10:58:16 PM
another one with brows make up
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Inazuma: wow, lightning! :D
The only off site photos I have are on my Facebook account. How do I link them?
Quote from: Allyson on February 09, 2014, 11:33:53 PM
The only off site photos I have are on my Facebook account. How do I link them?
I'm sorry, I'm not sure. You need to link to an off site URL using the image button above the reply window.
You could try uploading something to Imgur or some similar site. I hope that helps :)
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And the duckface picture, because being a girl obliges :P (Pre-HRT)
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Looking good Allyson!
@Carrie Ultimately, you'll have to experiment to see what works best for you, because it'll vary a LOT from woman to woman. Like, I couldn't do everything that Harlow does. I do not have that kind of patience with applying makeup. xD
Personally, I try to do the least amount I can get away with and still feel comfortable:
-Quick spot shave if I need it
-Brush my hair
-Put my hair up (or not)
-Blend in some concealer under my eyes
-Put on some earrings
-Maybe some shimmery or colour-y lip balm.
Then if I'm feeling fancy and not in a hurry, I might put on some eyeshadow, eyeliner, and lip shimmer instead of balm. I have yet to use my foundation (don't really need it) and mascara is annoying. Oh, I do fill in my eyebrows a bit with pencil, but that depends on my mood more than anything. So don't feel you need to do tons of things. There are different things or layers for different occasions. You don't look like you need a face-full of makeup to go to work. :)
Wearing darker color eye makeup even tho I was told I shouldn't but im sorta drawn to it. not sure how it looks. Sorry its a crappy pic with bad shadowy lighting and derpy expression but yeah w/e:
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I look more italian than usual, I noticed. tho I was told I look hispanic ha.. I'm glad I felt like pulling myself together a bit today tho.
Btw ashey you look really pretty
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on February 11, 2014, 01:42:19 PM
Wearing darker color eye makeup even tho I was told I shouldn't but im sorta drawn to it. not sure how it looks. Sorry its a crappy pic with bad shadowy lighting and derpy expression but yeah w/e:
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I look more italian than usual, I noticed. tho I was told I look hispanic ha.. I'm glad I felt like pulling myself together a bit today tho.
Btw ashey you look really pretty
amazing!
are you on hormones?
pls say yes :o :P
Quote from: FalsePrincess on February 11, 2014, 03:06:54 PM
amazing!
are you on hormones?
pls say yes :o :P
Yeah for like 2 or 3 months. 2 months on my current dose and a little more on low dose. I was on a little bit last year too starting at around age 17.
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on February 11, 2014, 03:11:55 PM
Yeah for like 2 or 3 months. 2 months on my current dose and a little more on low dose. I was on a little bit last year too starting at around age 17.
yeah that little bit did the trick cause you look beautiful :)
im 2 months in ,,,maybe I should post a pic here cause im very confused about my appearance...
Quote from: FalsePrincess on February 11, 2014, 03:21:53 PM
yeah that little bit did the trick cause you look beautiful :)
im 2 months in ,,,maybe I should post a pic here cause im very confused about my appearance...
Aww thnx. And do itt grrl, maybe you can get some tips if you're confused. I'm sure you're beautiful
Quote from: FalsePrincess on February 11, 2014, 03:21:53 PM
yeah that little bit did the trick cause you look beautiful :)
im 2 months in ,,,maybe I should post a pic here cause im very confused about my appearance...
maybe you didn't mean it like that but you don't need hormones to be beautiful.
Quote from: FalsePrincess on February 11, 2014, 03:21:53 PM
yeah that little bit did the trick cause you look beautiful :)
im 2 months in ,,,maybe I should post a pic here cause im very confused about my appearance...
I think you posted a picture before and you were quite pretty if I remember.
Quote from: Caysee Danielle on February 11, 2014, 03:40:14 PM
maybe you didn't mean it like that but you don't need hormones to be beautiful.
eeer ok I guess, I just said it cause in my mind hormones are the best way to feminize yourself,,,some are already beautiful and feminine...
Quote from: stephaniec on February 11, 2014, 04:10:39 PM
I think you posted a picture before and you were quite pretty if I remember.
Indeed I have posted before , but I was pre hrt...now Im two months...
the thing is that I have some people that say to me that I look like a guy , others that I look like a girl...sometimes I think I look like a girl, sometimes like a guy...
im so confused , much confusion im telling you XD so I could use some honest opinions about my legit girl mode...
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on February 11, 2014, 03:26:36 PM
Aww thnx. And do itt grrl, maybe you can get some tips if you're confused. I'm sure you're beautiful
I dont know if im beautiful or not , but I couldnt be as beautiful as you :)
Quote from: Allyson on February 09, 2014, 08:47:26 PM
As soon as I figure out how to put pictures here (Gosh I did not even find out how to upload an avatar!!), I will gladly do it :)
Allyson, this will help you post images in text
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,59974.0.html
You will be able to modify your profile to add an avatar at 15 posts. It's a security measure.
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on February 11, 2014, 01:42:19 PM
Wearing darker color eye makeup even tho I was told I shouldn't but im sorta drawn to it. not sure how it looks. Sorry its a crappy pic with bad shadowy lighting and derpy expression but yeah w/e:
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I look more italian than usual, I noticed. tho I was told I look hispanic ha.. I'm glad I felt like pulling myself together a bit today tho.
Btw ashey you look really pretty
You are freaking beautiful girl! I love your hair, I love your eyes & your skin looks amazing! You lucky ones who get to nip T in the butt early, I am so jealous!
I recently had my hair done & had a day at the spa. A little slice of heaven finally.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FcyLN6y0.jpg&hash=6bf552ae8e07f01976152ca94ece8da244e4adab)
Now I just need to practice styling it like this :D
That's a cute cut, Jessica. :)
Quote from: Feyru on February 12, 2014, 01:30:24 AM
You are freaking beautiful girl! I love your hair, I love your eyes & your skin looks amazing! You lucky ones who get to nip T in the butt early, I am so jealous!
I recently had my hair done & had a day at the spa. A little slice of heaven finally.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FcyLN6y0.jpg&hash=6bf552ae8e07f01976152ca94ece8da244e4adab)
Now I just need to practice styling it like this :D
You are both adorable. Very cute cut Jessica and your foundation is a perfect match. Wonderful.
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on February 11, 2014, 01:42:19 PM
Wearing darker color eye makeup even tho I was told I shouldn't but im sorta drawn to it. not sure how it looks. Sorry its a crappy pic with bad shadowy lighting and derpy expression but yeah w/e:
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I look more italian than usual, I noticed. tho I was told I look hispanic ha.. I'm glad I felt like pulling myself together a bit today tho.
Btw ashey you look really pretty
Girl you have dark eyes, so you have the most options for eye make-up
You totally pass in this photo and look amazing :angel:
I'm sorry, I was looking for the "Can I Pass" topic. When did we put up a " I Am a Future Model" topic? ;D
Yup, feeling a whole lot inferior now. Thanks girl's! ::) ;D :laugh:
So I got my eyebrows waxed finally.
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and some more fun ones with a crappy webcam:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/100495833@N08/sets/72157640910617804/
Looking good caysee
Quote from: Caysee Danielle on February 13, 2014, 12:46:23 AM
So I got my eyebrows waxed finally.
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and some more fun ones with a crappy webcam:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/100495833@N08/sets/72157640910617804/
looking awesome caysee
Quote from: Caysee Danielle on February 13, 2014, 12:46:23 AM
So I got my eyebrows waxed finally.
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and some more fun ones with a crappy webcam:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/100495833@N08/sets/72157640910617804/
Looking good Caysee, nice eyebrows makes all the difference with facial expression.
Quote from: Shantel on February 13, 2014, 08:52:18 AM
Looking good Caysee, nice eyebrows makes all the difference with facial expression.
Thanks!
I felt cute yesterday so I took a couple pics, how am I looking so far? And yes the boobs are real :D
(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1016568_272133606276978_516421595_n.jpg)
(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1781907_272133619610310_1419683089_n.jpg)
This is a couple months old and I like it lol
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Quote from: Riley Skye on February 13, 2014, 12:48:31 PM
I felt cute yesterday so I took a couple pics, how am I looking so far? And yes the boobs are real :D
(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1016568_272133606276978_516421595_n.jpg)
You are beyond cute Riley, it's been a thrill watching your transition!
Quote from: Shantel on February 13, 2014, 02:16:08 PM
You are beyond cute Riley, it's been a thrill watching your transition!
Aww thank you :]
I should get my friend to take a real good pic of me so you guys can really see!
So cute Riley I love your top your going to be gorgeous
Pre-Everything.
I made a collage of my favorite pictures :)
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Quote from: Chic on February 13, 2014, 05:11:28 PM
Pre-Everything.
I made a collage of my favorite pictures :)
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Pre everything!?
I don't believe you...
But if so, you're already at an unbelievable starting point.
Quote from: Riley Skye on February 13, 2014, 12:48:31 PM
I felt cute yesterday so I took a couple pics, how am I looking so far? And yes the boobs are real :D
(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1016568_272133606276978_516421595_n.jpg)
You felt cute because you
are cute. :)
Quote from: Chic on February 13, 2014, 05:11:28 PM
Pre-Everything.
I made a collage of my favorite pictures :)
Hey! You
do have two eyes. Third row, first column.
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Quote from: Mickie on February 13, 2014, 06:41:30 PM
Pre everything!?
I don't believe you...
But if so, you're already at an unbelievable starting point.
Yep! I'm definitely pre-everything, I haven't even put on makeup or dressed up yet (although I hope to!). I'm excited to start HRT but I'm not sure when it will happen!
Thank you for the compliment! I hope I can pass when I start HRT, because I already know I'll be happy :)
Quote from: Jamie de la Rosa on February 13, 2014, 11:46:41 PM
Hey! You do have two eyes. Third row, first column.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1052.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs453%2FInfectionboundComics%2Fimage_zps36455529.jpg&hash=d748e394164bc37948f5e74585bf3e372676979a)
Yeah, two reasons I don't show both my eyes: My left one is a lazy eye, and I like my hair covering my masculine eyebrows, which is hard to do while showing both eyes.
Quote from: Riley Skye on February 13, 2014, 12:48:31 PM
I felt cute yesterday so I took a couple pics, how am I looking so far? And yes the boobs are real :D
(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1016568_272133606276978_516421595_n.jpg)
(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1781907_272133619610310_1419683089_n.jpg)
This is a couple months old and I like it lol
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You look great, Riley. :)
Quote from: Chic on February 14, 2014, 01:36:12 PM
Yep! I'm definitely pre-everything, I haven't even put on makeup or dressed up yet (although I hope to!). I'm excited to start HRT but I'm not sure when it will happen!
Thank you for the compliment! I hope I can pass when I start HRT, because I already know I'll be happy :)
you will be nothing less than gorgeous, hon :D
Quote from: Riley Skye on February 13, 2014, 12:48:31 PM
I felt cute yesterday so I took a couple pics, how am I looking so far? And yes the boobs are real :D
You should feel cute every day ;)
Quote from: Shantel on February 13, 2014, 02:16:08 PM
You are beyond cute Riley, it's been a thrill watching your transition!
You should defiantly feel cute everyday your gonna be stunning
Emily.T xx
Quote from: Chic on February 14, 2014, 01:37:30 PM
Yeah, two reasons I don't show both my eyes: My left one is a lazy eye, and I like my hair covering my masculine eyebrows, which is hard to do while showing both eyes.
I have a droopy left eye too, but mine is from a stroke.
You just keep on being cute and don;t worry about a lazy eye.
Quote from: Qwynne on February 14, 2014, 08:21:08 PM
you will be nothing less than gorgeous, hon :D
Aww! Thank you so so so much, you're too sweet! ^-^
Quote from: Jamie de la Rosa on February 14, 2014, 11:11:26 PM
I have a droopy left eye too, but mine is from a stroke.
You just keep on being cute and don;t worry about a lazy eye.
I'm sorry to hear about your stroke :(
I'll do my best to overcome my insecurities in your honor! :D
Pffft ... didn't kill me. Neither did getting beaten with an ugly stick. LOL ;)
Having beard shadow which is heavy and a receded hair with a major bald patch at back of my head sure does not help. To be reliant on wigs and need extensive laser treatment being nearly 50 is depressing me greatly!
I try again. I am turning 41 next week... I am waiting to start HRT, in the meantime my hair has grown a bit.
how do I look? Usually people, at least at first sight, gender me correctly.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCJhBf7B.jpg&hash=7cb38d2c5c5b4e1e4219b7278319e46377fd735c)
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You are looking great , Marina . Very feminine face and body . No wonder that you are gendered correctly in public :)
Thanks for the support guys! I'm starting to feel really happy about myself now :] Do I look girl enough yet to pass? I've gotten very positive feedback from my friends which is very encouraging!
Quote from: Riley Skye on February 15, 2014, 10:05:17 AM
Thanks for the support guys! I'm starting to feel really happy about myself now :] Do I look girl enough yet to pass? I've gotten very positive feedback from my friends which is very encouraging!
I think that you're really getting there Riley. Your hair is coming along great and I think eventually a style that helps diminish your forehead just a bit would help along with some light makeup. I'm no expert, so some of the other girls could no doubt give you a few pointers, but for the most part you are already looking just darling in my estimation!
My hair is just a beast within itself, I'm going to need someone to help me tame it as it is really wavy and it's just poofing out as it grows. I do have an anti-frizz serum that is a godsend after I shower. What kind of make up would you recommend? People always ask me if I have makeup on because my skin is really radiant. I haven't really been out in girl mode since Christmas and I'm finally getting the confidence to finally do it.
Quote from: Riley Skye on February 15, 2014, 10:35:19 AM
My hair is just a beast within itself, I'm going to need someone to help me tame it as it is really wavy and it's just poofing out as it grows. I do have an anti-frizz serum that is a godsend after I shower. What kind of make up would you recommend? People always ask me if I have makeup on because my skin is really radiant. I haven't really been out in girl mode since Christmas and I'm finally getting the confidence to finally do it.
Makeup is not my forte since I don't use it myself, however I think your best bet would be to dress as you are in your avatar and visit one of the makeup kiosks at your local shopping mall and ask one of the technicians there to get you set up with the bare essentials. And make it clear that you intend to go light and not trowel a load of crap on your face. They will get you set up with shades that will work best for you're skin tones. Some of the other women here at Susan's will point you in the right direction. Remember practice makes perfect!
Quote from: Shantel on February 15, 2014, 10:45:07 AM
Makeup is not my forte since I don't use it myself, however I think your best bet would be to dress as you are in your avatar and visit one of the makeup kiosks at your local shopping mall and ask one of the technicians there to get you set up with the bare essentials. And make it clear that you intend to go light and not trowel a load of crap on your face. They will get you set up with shades that will work best for you're skin tones. Some of the other women here at Susan's will point you in the right direction. Remember practice makes perfect!
I actually went out with that and a skirt on to group that night and everyone was so happy that I had the confidence to go out :]
Quote from: Marina mtf on February 15, 2014, 06:48:05 AM
I try again. I am turning 41 next week... I am waiting to start HRT, in the meantime my hair has grown a bit.
how do I look? Usually people, at least at first sight, gender me correctly.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCJhBf7B.jpg&hash=7cb38d2c5c5b4e1e4219b7278319e46377fd735c)
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You have nice style. Based on your picture, I would just assume you to be a very slim woman and probably wouldn't give you a second look.
Quote from: RainbowGuacamole on February 15, 2014, 11:24:45 PM
You have nice style. Based on your picture, I would just assume you to be a very slim woman and probably wouldn't give you a second look.
thanks, my measurements are 175 cm height and 62 kg of weight, bust 85cm, waist 75, hips 102
Quote from: Marina mtf on February 16, 2014, 12:56:48 AM
thanks, my measurements are 175 cm height and 62 kg of weight, bust 85cm, waist 75, hips 102
5' 7" tall
136.5 lbs
33" Bust
29.5" waist
40" hips
Nice petite, feminine dimensions Marina, you look great already. HRT will surely enhance all of your nice attributes.
Quote from: Shantel on February 16, 2014, 10:43:55 AM
5' 7" tall
136.5 lbs
33" Bust
29.5" waist
40" hips
Nice petite, feminine dimensions Marina, you look great already. HRT will surely enhance all of your nice attributes.
175cm = ~5' 9"
Quote from: Shantel on February 16, 2014, 11:35:18 AM
My conversion charts lied to me! ???
No worries! I only noticed the discrepancy because I'm around 5'9" too.
eeeer
Im 1.77 and when I go to convert it online it says 5.8 ...
so something must be wrong here...
Hi, to bring some clarity to this length confusion.
(I'm 188cm)
1 inch = 2.54cm
12 inches = 1 foot = 30.48cm
Which gives:
175cm = 175/2.54=68.9 inches= 5 feet 8.9 inches or 5'9"
177cm = 177/2.54=69.7 inches= 5 feet 9.7 inches or 5'10"
188cm = 188/2.54=74.0 inches= 6 feet 2.0 inches or 6'2"
And some standard sizes:
150cm = 59.0 inches = 4 feet 11.0 inches or 4'11"
160cm = 62.3 inches = 5 feet 2.3 inches or 5'2"
170cm = 66.9 inches = 5 feet 6.9 inches or 5'7"
180cm = 70.9 inches = 5 feet 10.9 inches or 5'11"
190cm = 74.8 inches = 6 feet 2.8 inches or 6'3"
200cm = 78.7 inches = 6 feet 6.7 inches or 6'7"
210cm = 82.7 inches = 6 feet 10.7 inches or 6'11"
1 foot = 30.48cm
2 feet = 60.96cm
3 feet = 91.44cm
4 feet = 121.92cm
5 feet = 152.40cm
6 feet = 182.88cm
7 feet = 213.36cm
8 feet = 243.84cm
9 feet = 274.32cm
The shortest human ever, Chandra Bahadur, is 54.6cm = 21.2 inches = 1 foot 9.2 inches or 1'9".
The tallest human ever, Robert Pershing Wadlow, was 272cm = 107.1 inches = 8 feet 11.1 inches or 8'11".
Hope this helps.
Quote from: FalsePrincess on February 16, 2014, 11:57:09 AM
eeeer
Im 1.77 and when I go to convert it online it says 5.8 ...
so something must be wrong here...
5.8
is correct. But only if we're talking 5.80 feet or 5 4/5 feet, not 5 feet 8 inches!
5.80 feet = 5'10" = 177cms.
6'1"
174 lbs
40" bust
33" waist
38"hips
im a big girl, cant wait to cut all my upperbody muscle when i stop working
Quote from: Nicolette on February 16, 2014, 01:18:43 PM
5.8 is correct. But only if we're talking 5.80 feet or 5 4/5 feet, not 5 feet 8 inches!
5.80 feet = 5'10" = 177cms.
Actually that is wrong.
If there are 12 inches on a foot and she's 5'10" it means that she is 5 5/6 feet= 5.8333..., not 5 4/5=5.80.
Quote from: 930310 on February 16, 2014, 04:51:07 PM
Actually that is wrong.
If there are 12 inches on a foot and she's 5'10" it means that she is 5 5/6 feet= 5.8333..., not 5 4/5=5.80.
You are correct. I presume the online converter was doing a rounding down to whole inches.
While I may be in Canada and was taught the metric system in school, I've always stuck to Imperial units for height and weight among other things. Sometimes it just makes for more convenient measurement divisions or a number that's more easily visualized. I actually don't have any idea how to visualize a person based on centimetres or kilograms. I'm more likely to take a separate measurement in metric if necessary than convert from Imperial by formula. I really like having a dual-system tape measure or ruler because I can generate both figures at the same time. Just get one of these tape measures and you'll rarely have to calculate conversions again.
So, I'm posting pictures of me how I look right now.
No makeup.
No tweezed eyebrows.
No women's clothing.
No HRT.
I'm 5'6
I'm 33 years old. I'll probably be around 33 1/2 when I start HRT.
No laser hair removal (that's starting very soon).
About all I've done that's noticeable is growing my hair.
What I'm trying to figure out is, like the title of the post says, will I pass as female eventually? I know the pictures don't show it, but I'm actually still quite over weight (and not muscle) at the moment (between 185/190 pounds and dropping).
And I'm not sure what else to say. Honestly I know even if I look like I'll pass there's no guarantee I will. I know no one can know for sure how effective HRT will be. I guess I'm just wondering if I stand a chance at all. I'd like honest opinions and advice, please.
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Do you know why a penis is not 30.48 cm long?
Because then it would be a foot! >:-)
Quote from: Jamie de la Rosa on February 16, 2014, 09:48:40 PM
Do you know why a penis is not 30.48 cm long?
Because then it would be a foot! >:-)
I uh ... I don't ... I don't follow.
Quote from: Jamie de la Rosa on February 16, 2014, 09:48:40 PM
Do you know why a penis is not 30.48 cm long?
Because then it would be a foot! >:-)
that was funny
Oh! I get it now!
...
I ... errr .... I thought that was commentary on my pictures I just posted. So I was going "... huh?..."
sorry about this discussion about metric-imperial units :) it was interesting, because also
for me it is easy to visualize a woman whose height is 175cm and not so easy to visualize
her if she is 5' 9''.
@AMY it is very difficult to say from male pictures. But if you look at many
"before & after" threads you will see that nothing is impossible. You will see
many beautiful transformations, so... why the next couldn't be yours?
Quote from: Amy The Bookworm on February 16, 2014, 09:45:04 PM
What I'm trying to figure out is, like the title of the post says, will I pass as female eventually?
Yes, I think you stand a good chance of turning out very passable. I'd start laser or electro now if you aren't already. Especially if you plan on starting HRT in 6 months as it's going to take time to get rid of that beard shadow. At 5'6" you already have several of us taller girls jealous. You also have pretty good skin and hair. Keep up the hard work in dropping the lbs, I think you'll do great.
Quote from: Elizabeth1 on February 15, 2014, 12:40:22 AM
Having beard shadow which is heavy and a receded hair with a major bald patch at back of my head sure does not help. To be reliant on wigs and need extensive laser treatment being nearly 50 is depressing me greatly!
There's no shame in using a wig. Many many cis-women have to use them too. So you are almost 50, so what? Aren't you glad that you aren't 60 looking back and wishing "If I'd only done this when I was 49..."?
I know, it's easy to get pulled into the whole reflecting on the past and wishing things were different. I do it too. But snap yourself out of it. Screw the past and all those doubts, and to hell with what anyone might say. Those thoughts only serve to rob you of the happiness that you deserve. There is no one and nothing that can take happiness from you but your own fear and self-doubt.
Look yourself in the mirror and tell that woman she's beautiful. Tell her that she still has the most amazingly awesome years ahead of her now because she has been set free. She is finally free to be herself to the world... and
that, in and of itself is
beautiful.
Here's a few recent ones...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIECnkOy.jpg&hash=de40df9702528b6794ee8aef76546c1e8edd937e)
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I'm not on hormones at the moment. Do I pass now? And if not, could I pass in the future?
Quote from: riversong on February 17, 2014, 12:56:14 PM
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I'm not on hormones at the moment. Do I pass now? And if not, could I pass in the future?
Absolutely!
Quote from: riversong on February 17, 2014, 12:56:14 PM
Here's a few recent ones...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIECnkOy.jpg&hash=de40df9702528b6794ee8aef76546c1e8edd937e)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPY4BqMxl.jpg&hash=164a0feae1d7d6627a5a5f4720d2724910836bb0)
I'm not on hormones at the moment. Do I pass now? And if not, could I pass in the future?
Hi, judging by your pictures I would definitely say that you are well on your way to passing. There are some things that makes you look a bit masculine, but they will wash away once you start HRT. Good luck and keep up the good work!
Amy the bookworm: I think you most certainly will be able to pass as female. I'm pretty excited to see what you will look like once you start the 'mones!
Quote from: 930310 on February 17, 2014, 01:51:46 PM
Hi, judging by your pictures I would definitely say that you are well on your way to passing. There are some things that makes you look a bit masculine, but they will wash away once you start HRT. Good luck and keep up the good work!
I am glad to hear that! What are they, if I may ask?
I like the last photo its very cute the expression :P
But you pass without a second glance ;)
Quote from: Jamie de la Rosa on February 16, 2014, 09:48:40 PM
Do you know why a penis is not 30.48 cm long?
Because then it would be a foot! >:-)
:)))
Quote from: Amy The Bookworm on February 16, 2014, 10:18:39 PM
Oh! I get it now!
...
I ... errr .... I thought that was commentary on my pictures I just posted. So I was going "... huh?..."
Amy, I think you will find I have an offbeat sense of humor. ;)
Quote from: jebee on February 17, 2014, 08:34:35 PM
so do i pass???
This is my favorite and yes, you pass without a doubt. Go girl! ;)
Quote from: Jamie de la Rosa on February 17, 2014, 11:11:02 PM
Amy, I think you will find I have an offbeat sense of humor. ;)
Seems for a moment Amy was afraid you were being a '
prick'... ;) ;D Glad to see you didn't get off on the wrong '
foot'. :D
Quote from: Violet Bloom on February 18, 2014, 12:03:08 AM
Seems for a moment Amy was afraid you were being a 'prick'... ;) ;D Glad to see you didn't get off on the wrong 'foot'. :D
UGH! We should have ALL seen that one coming!*giggle* ;D
This one is my fav to you are gorgeous girl a big yes from me
Quote from: jebee on February 17, 2014, 08:34:35 PM
so do i pass???
Hi, judging by your pictures I'd say that you do pass well. The two latter pictures are better than the first two and they say "female". The first one is not a good picture so I won't comment on that one. Picture number two is also taken from an unfair angle and doesn't give us a clear picture of how you look.
So based on the pictures I'd say, yes you pass!
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V M
So, I am pre everything, slowly working towards beginning hormones but seeing as I only came out to everyone about a month ago (I got drunk, go figure) its still a few months away, but I am terrified I wont be able to pass even on them. So.. How do I go..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVs2LoBm.jpg&hash=021b0f0dfec2335cf6e8e3c19256ee01f9107a6d)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9hOS69x.jpg&hash=09b73ac12ab4a2288e5ef5e091794743c19aebd7)
The bottom picture just reeks of femininity! You are really pre everything? No way? Baby you might want to go ahead and hire a security guy to keep all the guys out of arms reach. You nailed it girl! ;)
Oh gosh thank you,
Yes, pre everything, still probably 3 months away from starting HRT according to the psychologist I am seeing,
And I am content hiding inside for the moment fighting my cat for a seat :)
Did you do your own makeup girl? From what I can see it was well done. Show us the full makeover next time, pretty please? :)
No sunglasses I want to see what magic you work on your eyes.
Quote from: ImpeachedEllie on February 18, 2014, 10:09:55 PM
So, I am pre everything, slowly working towards beginning hormones but seeing as I only came out to everyone about a month ago (I got drunk, go figure) its still a few months away, but I am terrified I wont be able to pass even on them. So.. How do I go..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVs2LoBm.jpg&hash=021b0f0dfec2335cf6e8e3c19256ee01f9107a6d)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9hOS69x.jpg&hash=09b73ac12ab4a2288e5ef5e091794743c19aebd7)
The picture with the sunglasses is really cute.
And remember the old Latin adage:
In vino veritas (In wine there is truth) ;)
Quote from: Jamie de la Rosa on February 18, 2014, 10:42:35 PM
And remember the old Latin adage: In vino veritas (In wine there is truth) ;)
Truthful tonight are we Jaime?*giggle* :)
Quote from: Violet Bloom on February 18, 2014, 12:03:08 AM
Seems for a moment Amy was afraid you were being a 'prick'... ;) ;D Glad to see you didn't get off on the wrong 'foot'. :D
I always say, "There is nothing like a good pun." :P
And my joke was nothing at all like a good pun >:(
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on February 18, 2014, 10:50:59 PM
Truthful tonight are we Jaime?*giggle* :)
Hon, you can't imagine how much I'd like to uncork one tonight.
Quote from: ImpeachedEllie on February 18, 2014, 10:09:55 PM
So, I am pre everything, slowly working towards beginning hormones but seeing as I only came out to everyone about a month ago (I got drunk, go figure) its still a few months away, but I am terrified I wont be able to pass even on them. So.. How do I go..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVs2LoBm.jpg&hash=021b0f0dfec2335cf6e8e3c19256ee01f9107a6d)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9hOS69x.jpg&hash=09b73ac12ab4a2288e5ef5e091794743c19aebd7)
Holy crap.
I'm pre everything too. But man, I tell you. If my "post hrt" looks as good as your "pre hrt" I think I'd be more than happy. Like ecstatic. And stuff.
These really are the little things that make me hopefull about transitioning.
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on February 18, 2014, 10:32:14 PM
Did you do your own makeup girl? From what I can see it was well done. Show us the full makeover next time, pretty please? :)
No sunglasses I want to see what magic you work on your eyes.
I did it myself >,< I only have foundation and lipstick that I pretty much grabbed at random and ran away to the self serve checkout because panic attacks and stuff, a friend said she would do a full make over at some point though, will post more then :)
Quote from: Mickie on February 19, 2014, 12:33:36 AM
Holy crap.
I'm pre everything too. But man, I tell you. If my "post hrt" looks as good as your "pre hrt" I think I'd be more than happy. Like ecstatic. And stuff.
These really are the little things that make me hopefull about transitioning.
Thank you!,
I am so embarrassed, but in a good way, I guess I got lucky in how I turned out at 22!
And heck, this forum is the thing that makes me hopeful, having so many girls around for support its kinda awesome
Quote from: ImpeachedEllie on February 19, 2014, 01:02:57 AM
I did it myself >,< I only have foundation and lipstick that I pretty much grabbed at random and ran away to the self serve checkout because panic attacks and stuff, a friend said she would do a full make over at some point though, will post more then :)
Thank you!,
I am so embarrassed, but in a good way, I guess I got lucky in how I turned out at 22!
And heck, this forum is the thing that makes me hopeful, having so many girls around for support its kinda awesome
*facepalm* why have I never thought of the self checkout...
And yeah. I'm only 23, hopefully good results are in store (fingers crossed) but I think I'll be happy whatever the outcome. And I totally agree, the people that are here are awesome!
Quote from: ImpeachedEllie on February 18, 2014, 10:09:55 PM
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9hOS69x.jpg&hash=09b73ac12ab4a2288e5ef5e091794743c19aebd7)
You will definitely pass as female once you get on hormones!
I'm still pre everything, this is me without makeup.
(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1560475_10200755529565049_1849342542_n.jpg)
I have bad teeth so I don't smile much.
Quote from: Queen B on February 19, 2014, 02:06:20 AM
I'm still pre everything, this is me without makeup.
(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1560475_10200755529565049_1849342542_n.jpg)
I have bad teeth so I don't smile much.
Hi, I am certain that you one day will pass as female. Your face has a female shape and with hormones it'll just get better!
Quote from: Queen B on February 19, 2014, 02:06:20 AM
I'm still pre everything, this is me without makeup.
(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1560475_10200755529565049_1849342542_n.jpg)
I have bad teeth so I don't smile much.
I usually suggest that a person put forth their best presentation, because I know several genetic women who don't "pass" very well when they let themselves go. Also, the straight on face shot make it almost impossible to comment on things like brow bossing, forehead, chin, and trachea, all of which could be "tells."
Sorry about that, I still need a makeup kit, all I've got is cheap lipstick.
Here's one I just took of my profile, without my glasses.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi7.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy283%2Fnyrab%2FPicture128.jpg%7Eoriginal&hash=8af98b00f52c0442af5ff102a4de045b37d77d8b)
HATE my profile. I've got a nose like Steve Martin in Roxanne. :embarrassed:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1959561_10152603850109838_116650751_n.jpg)(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1/1780724_10152603718009838_2059626854_n.jpg)(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/l/t1/1689170_10152603711329838_1755977563_n.jpg)(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1013735_10152603713064838_1950559129_n.jpg)(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1904100_10152603716839838_131743119_n.jpg)
Well, "Do I Look Or Could I Pass as Female?"
Me 1 year ago before I began to accept who I was:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropboxusercontent.com%2Fu%2F87073578%2FIMAG0071.jpg&hash=83002faa9a22e8d4519b8dfaac60c613c642d700)
Me now without trying to appear female pre everything:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropboxusercontent.com%2Fu%2F87073578%2FIMG_20140209_193626.jpg&hash=9eb4f4ecb2827ceb80ed410f5849f7d84a801191)
Thoughts? Seems to me that just accepting and slowly going through various steps has made a huge difference
Quote from: Queen B on February 19, 2014, 04:24:23 AM
Sorry about that, I still need a makeup kit, all I've got is cheap lipstick.
Here's one I just took of my profile, without my glasses.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi7.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy283%2Fnyrab%2FPicture128.jpg%7Eoriginal&hash=8af98b00f52c0442af5ff102a4de045b37d77d8b)
HATE my profile. I've got a nose like Steve Martin in Roxanne. :embarrassed:
Oy, now there are many pictures from different users without replies. I'll try to adress you seperately.
First of all Queen B, I withold what I said earlier and I think you have a female shape on your head. And you will pass if your skin clears up a little and you get electrolysis/laser.
Quote from: Caysee Danielle on February 19, 2014, 12:42:06 PM
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Well, "Do I Look Or Could I Pass as Female?"
Caysee, you have a feminine shape on your eyebrows, and face. I believe that you'll pass as female in the future. Especially picture 1 and 2 makes me read you as female.
Quote from: Olivia Petty on February 19, 2014, 02:39:47 PM
Me 1 year ago before I began to accept who I was:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropboxusercontent.com%2Fu%2F87073578%2FIMAG0071.jpg&hash=83002faa9a22e8d4519b8dfaac60c613c642d700)
Me now without trying to appear female pre everything:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropboxusercontent.com%2Fu%2F87073578%2FIMG_20140209_193626.jpg&hash=9eb4f4ecb2827ceb80ed410f5849f7d84a801191)
Thoughts? Seems to me that just accepting and slowly going through various steps has made a huge difference
Olivia, your eyebrows need a trim. Otherwise yes, I believe that you'll pass as female.
Quote from: 930310 on February 19, 2014, 02:53:42 PM
Caysee, you have a feminine shape on your eyebrows, and face. I believe that you'll pass as female in the future. Especially picture 1 and 2 makes me read you as female.
Any specific criticisms as to why I'm not passing now?
Quote from: Queen B on February 19, 2014, 04:24:23 AM
Sorry about that, I still need a makeup kit, all I've got is cheap lipstick.
Here's one I just took of my profile, without my glasses.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi7.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy283%2Fnyrab%2FPicture128.jpg%7Eoriginal&hash=8af98b00f52c0442af5ff102a4de045b37d77d8b)
HATE my profile. I've got a nose like Steve Martin in Roxanne. :embarrassed:
The nose isn't that bad. Rhinoplasties are very common, even for ciswomen. In the picture I don't see any adams apple at all.
It looks to me like you will probably want some brow work done, but I would want to see what a couple years of HRT do for you. There is nothing there which would cause me to say no way.
@ Caysee - you had a recent avatar that looked very femme.
Quote from: Olivia Petty on February 19, 2014, 02:39:47 PM
Me now without trying to appear female pre everything:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropboxusercontent.com%2Fu%2F87073578%2FIMG_20140209_193626.jpg&hash=9eb4f4ecb2827ceb80ed410f5849f7d84a801191)
Thoughts? Seems to me that just accepting and slowly going through various steps has made a huge difference
Let's forget the old you. That guy is gone.
Your hair is very much more feminine. Your face shape is femme too. (Of course, cis women come in all the same face shapes as cismen, so it's like What?) Next time you post, try thinning and arching the eyebrows, from the bottom. Try a bit of makeup around your eyes - look up "smokey eye". Lipstick. I bet it makes a 100% difference.
Quote from: riversong on February 19, 2014, 06:36:29 PM
I honestly don't see anything keeping you from passing. But of course, it's hard to say for sure since in your pics only one angle is visible.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtjwpxWg.jpg%3F1%3F3661&hash=e09d9656edb0173819020463d8b9ad6cb10aa48f)
I hope you guys can see this. The "selfie cam" on my phone isn't the best of quality.
Rule #1 of selfies ... no back lighting!!
Quote from: Caysee Danielle on February 19, 2014, 02:55:26 PM
Any specific criticisms as to why I'm not passing now?
I agree with the others, you look feminine in these shots- maybe trimming or shaping your eyebrows more could help? Outside of that, I'm not sure what would keep you from passing. Have you considered posting a video? Sometimes it can be hard to define what's holding us back when we're only able to evaluate a still image.
Dee, everytime i see your avatar i always think you look like fiorawestcoast
Quote from: Caysee Danielle on February 19, 2014, 02:55:26 PM
Any specific criticisms as to why I'm not passing now?
As I said, I believe you'll pass. There is only one angle here and that makes it hard to determine whether or not someone is passing. If you want to hear why I don't think you're passing as of now:
It's because of your nose, it has a male shape about it and it makes you stand out a bit. I'd recommend that you look into having some kind of rhinoplasty.
Keep in mind that this is only my opinion, I may be wrong and you shouldn't listen to only one single person on the internet.
Quote from: Caysee Danielle on February 19, 2014, 02:55:26 PM
Any specific criticisms as to why I'm not passing now?
Post some plain front quarter and side shots and I will try and tell you.
Quote from: Jamie de la Rosa on February 19, 2014, 09:36:15 PM
The nose isn't that bad. Rhinoplasties are very common, even for ciswomen. In the picture I don't see any adams apple at all.
It looks to me like you will probably want some brow work done, but I would want to see what a couple years of HRT do for you. There is nothing there which would cause me to say no way.
Thanks. :)
I do have an adams apple but thankfully it's not very big.
I plan to be on HRT for a while before I consider any kind of FFS, it's best to see what kind of changes HRT will make first, and then work from there.
Quote from: Allyson on February 10, 2014, 12:13:33 AM
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And the duckface picture, because being a girl obliges :P (Pre-HRT)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F1qqyqa.jpg&hash=d7c956b6777418545135f2342a8c167d734d926e)
Do I look, or could I pass, as female?
I love your smile Allyson! It gives you a very feminine look and just makes you just shine. I say you pass right now. The only thing I can think of is longer hair. It would frame your face so beautifully and leave no doubt at all you are a woman. Only thing I could add. Good job! :)
Quote from: riversong on February 19, 2014, 06:36:29 PM
I honestly don't see anything keeping you from passing. But of course, it's hard to say for sure since in your pics only one angle is visible.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtjwpxWg.jpg%3F1%3F3661&hash=e09d9656edb0173819020463d8b9ad6cb10aa48f)
I hope you guys can see this. The "selfie cam" on my phone isn't the best of quality.
I hate feeling like chopped liver :( Does anyone have any comments on mine? Guess I should be glad no one's said that I look masculine, but no one's said that I look feminine or where I can improve on either...
Quote from: riversong on February 20, 2014, 02:45:42 PM
I hate feeling like chopped liver :( Does anyone have any comments on mine? Guess I should be glad no one's said that I look masculine, but no one's said that I look feminine or where I can improve on either...
I really cant tell from the pic cause its to dark...but you are pre hrt right?
I believe that if I show you on the street I wouldnt clock you...
you really dont look masculine with hrt im sure you ll be fine
Quote from: riversong on February 20, 2014, 02:45:42 PM
I hate feeling like chopped liver :( Does anyone have any comments on mine? Guess I should be glad no one's said that I look masculine, but no one's said that I look feminine or where I can improve on either...
Baby with the lighting I cant give a good evaluation yet. Try another picture and we will definitely give you our opinion, OK? No one gets left out here, we just have to be able to see good. :)
One thing I've noticed in this thread is the very low quality of most pictures. I understand how you feel and that a better picture would "out" you or reveal any "male" features. But this thread is a thread that will give you advice/suggestions on how to improve your appearance as a woman. And therefore the better the pictures are, the easier it is for us to help you.
I just don't have a good quality camera, that's my excuse. :P
And the same goes about colorizing/shading your pictures. I don't mean to offend anyone here.
But Caysee, does your camera have an automatic black/greyshading then?
Nope. I'm not offended, I just had it set on black and white for fun and afterwards decided to post them here. I wasn't specifically taking the pictures for this thread.
No offence taken :D
I doubt people are intentionally posting low quality pictures just to look more feminine...actually I would think that higher quality pictures would make one look more feminine, since in general higher quality pictures make you look better rather than worse (I think).
Quote from: Queen B on February 19, 2014, 02:06:20 AM
I'm still pre everything, this is me without makeup.
(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1560475_10200755529565049_1849342542_n.jpg)
I have bad teeth so I don't smile much.
Girl, lemme me tell you that you CAN pass no doubt. Despite what you say about your nose, I still think you are able to pass. You have some very nice features. Focus on polishing your eyes. They're going to be needed to take attention off of your nose and to the background where your beautiful eyes will be bloomed open. Trim and sculpt the brows, the uni, and start practising both eye makeup and facial.
Another thing is to SMILE. :D It's goes a very long way. Most often when I see an attractive serious face, it's generally on very very attractive women. But smiles are even more feminine. That's why many men always look so serious. Show off those teeth and your happiness when dressed, I really think you'd be blown away at what you already got going for you girl! <3
I am not in transition. People recognize me as a woman when just looking my body shape, but mostly as a man after looking my face.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7434%2F12672593155_796b0f547f_o.jpg&hash=6cc1beecb159debe1696f412fc99140e67cd2362)
I am wearing mascara and sun cream.
And the verdict is:
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Uh-oh...
barbie~~
Quote from: barbie on February 21, 2014, 04:06:10 AM
I am not in transition. People recognize me as a woman when just looking my body shape, but mostly as a man after looking my face...
I don't think your face is that bad. Many beautiful women have facial features that are considered masculine.
But anyway, just for fun here's what you might look like with FFS:
(not very professional as I only had my mouse to work with, but you get the idea)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_Y4lxm5DRBA/Uwc80l8K6CI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/AmB8kGl66bs/w621-h800-no/barbie-face.gif)
That is cool :P
Quote from: Alaia on February 21, 2014, 06:01:50 AM
I don't think your face is that bad. Many beautiful women have facial features that are considered masculine.
But anyway, just for fun here's what you might look like with FFS:
(not very professional as I only had my mouse to work with, but you get the idea)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_Y4lxm5DRBA/Uwc80l8K6CI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/AmB8kGl66bs/w621-h800-no/barbie-face.gif)
Very nice!
It looks like one thing you did was shape her eyebrows, which wouldn't even require FFS :)
That's cool. Which program did you use to get this effect?
(And I still believe that people are taking low-quality pictures because it makes it harder to point out differences in their facial feautures then...)
Quote from: 930310 on February 21, 2014, 11:55:39 AM
That's cool. Which program did you use to get this effect?
Just plain old Adobe Photoshop.
Quote from: barbie on February 21, 2014, 04:06:10 AM
I am not in transition. People recognize me as a woman when just looking my body shape, but mostly as a man after looking my face.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7434%2F12672593155_796b0f547f_o.jpg&hash=6cc1beecb159debe1696f412fc99140e67cd2362)
I am wearing mascara and sun cream.
And the verdict is:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.staticflickr.com%2F5534%2F12673073544_572d30c354_o.png&hash=d8f8497ffafd4c24aeac14139058c87f9dfa5fde)
Uh-oh...
barbie~~
I think letting your hair down and eye brows sharpened you would be fine with one of your stylish dresses
You shouldn't believe what a photo-comparisson program says anyways. I tested it with my profile picture and an older one from last week.
The first picture said 70% female and 25 years.
The other said 88% male and 17 years.
So, I don't believe it's accurate at all.
Quote from: Alaia on February 21, 2014, 06:01:50 AM
I don't think your face is that bad. Many beautiful women have facial features that are considered masculine.
But anyway, just for fun here's what you might look like with FFS:
(not very professional as I only had my mouse to work with, but you get the idea)
Oh. Thanks for the photoshoped image, Alaia. I do plan any FFS, but I got the first session of fractal laser skin resurfacing about a week ago. Every two months, I will get it again.
Quote from: riversong on February 21, 2014, 09:28:22 AM
Very nice!
It looks like one thing you did was shape her eyebrows, which wouldn't even require FFS :)
Quote from: stephaniec on February 21, 2014, 12:12:55 PM
I think letting your hair down and eye brows sharpened you would be fine with one of your stylish dresses
I always trim my eye brows, as they are relatively thick. Most women here envy my eye brows, asking me whether I draw eye brows. But, you suggest I need to trim more, and I am going to pluck more hairs.
Quote from: 930310 on February 21, 2014, 12:55:16 PM
You shouldn't believe what a photo-comparisson program says anyways. I tested it with my profile picture and an older one from last week.
The first picture said 70% female and 25 years.
The other said 88% male and 17 years.
So, I don't believe it's accurate at all.
Yes. It is not accurate, and once it's verdict was a 78% male for my little daughter. But, after trying several photos, I concluded that, in overall, it discriminates well between male and female
Now I am going to pluck more in my eye brows.
barbie~~
Quote from: kiara jamie on February 20, 2014, 01:58:42 AM
Dee, everytime i see your avatar i always think you look like fiorawestcoast
Aw thanks! She was such an inspiration for me when I started transition, and her videos are pretty great to go back and watch from time to time. So I'll take that compliment, even if my avatar is just a heavily filtered pic! :)
Quote from: stephaniec on February 21, 2014, 12:12:55 PM
I think letting your hair down and eye brows sharpened you would be fine with one of your stylish dresses
I followed the suggestion of Stephanie. I trimmed a little bit more and let my hair down. The verdict is the same, but the age was decreased a little bit :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7332%2F12702309085_ea82fe1a79_o.jpg&hash=1d2e98675cf191ed0d5843b9afcd5234fca1623c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7446%2F12702686773_073e6d810e_o.png&hash=9a04c7e0cafebffcd966ebde7177f7348dab7090)
As it is early in the morning, I am just wearing lipstick. Next time, I will try again after wearing some makeup (sun cream, foundation, eye shadow and powder).
barbie~~
Quote from: barbie on February 22, 2014, 01:50:34 PM
I followed the suggestion of Stephanie. I trimmed a little bit more and let my hair down. The verdict is the same, but the age was decreased a little bit :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7332%2F12702309085_ea82fe1a79_o.jpg&hash=1d2e98675cf191ed0d5843b9afcd5234fca1623c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7446%2F12702686773_073e6d810e_o.png&hash=9a04c7e0cafebffcd966ebde7177f7348dab7090)
As it is early in the morning, I am just wearing lipstick. Next time, I will try again after wearing some makeup (sun cream, foundation, eye shadow and powder).
barbie~~
Barbie, I wouldn't trust PicTriev that much. For me you look like a pretty woman!! ;)
Hmmm if I might give an advice, I see that a smile can make wonders and give you a more feminine expression. When you are smiling your cheeks get fuller and your face gets a more feminine contour. I bet that if you try smiling you will get different results from PicTriev (it seems that PicTirev judges that only women can smile. If you are not smiling, than you are a man)
Quote from: barbie on February 22, 2014, 01:50:34 PM
I followed the suggestion of Stephanie. I trimmed a little bit more and let my hair down. The verdict is the same, but the age was decreased a little bit :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7332%2F12702309085_ea82fe1a79_o.jpg&hash=1d2e98675cf191ed0d5843b9afcd5234fca1623c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7446%2F12702686773_073e6d810e_o.png&hash=9a04c7e0cafebffcd966ebde7177f7348dab7090)
As it is early in the morning, I am just wearing lipstick. Next time, I will try again after wearing some makeup (sun cream, foundation, eye shadow and powder).
barbie~~
I don't know , you look fine to me. I wouldn't trust robots I don't think they like humans that much
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi747.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx119%2Fkitty2170%2Fb16ff458a3ddd25b0cf2c5e8bf1712d4_zps8df4d768.jpg&hash=c8c69c0d84d682fcd3ed3df8993f98f6acbf1b64)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi747.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx119%2Fkitty2170%2Fd3a3303886852e1fcacb8c71d53edde4_zpsc979a264.jpg&hash=67d464556e503a042e29e17c041404c373ca825d)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi747.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx119%2Fkitty2170%2F26c195b9edc6221719ed5b4ebc907fa6_zpsd430552f.jpg&hash=57fe790d197b2ba482121140d08fab9c18b613d9)
I know I'm only a few months on hrt but i'm considering going full time at this new gym i signed up at. Do you think i'll pass?
Quote from: PrincessPatience on February 22, 2014, 07:03:16 PM
I know I'm only a few months on hrt but i'm considering going full time at this new gym i signed up at. Do you think i'll pass?
Oh my god, girl, you pass more than some of the cis women at my gym! I don't think it's even a question.
I would have to second that Dee she is amazing.
Quote from: PrincessPatience on February 22, 2014, 07:03:16 PM
I know I'm only a few months on hrt but i'm considering going full time at this new gym i signed up at. Do you think i'll pass?
Absolutely Princess, you are sweet, go for it girl!
Quote from: PrincessPatience on February 22, 2014, 07:03:16 PM
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I know I'm only a few months on hrt but i'm considering going full time at this new gym i signed up at. Do you think i'll pass?
do to extreme jealousy I'll only say You'll be ok.
Due to medium jealously I say you look amazing and of course you pass :)
Quote from: PrincessPatience on February 22, 2014, 07:03:16 PM
I know I'm only a few months on hrt but i'm considering going full time at this new gym i signed up at. Do you think i'll pass?
You already look more beautiful than most cis girls. You have an adorable body shape.
barbie~~
Quote from: Dee on February 22, 2014, 07:10:53 PM
Oh my god, girl, you pass more than some of the cis women at my gym! I don't think it's even a question.
I hope that the gym will allow ONLY gilrls, otherwise be prepared to a list of stares from the boys :)
Wow thanks everyone! I'm gonna give it a go then. :D
Quote from: PrincessPatience on February 22, 2014, 07:03:16 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi747.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx119%2Fkitty2170%2Fb16ff458a3ddd25b0cf2c5e8bf1712d4_zps8df4d768.jpg&hash=c8c69c0d84d682fcd3ed3df8993f98f6acbf1b64)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi747.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx119%2Fkitty2170%2Fd3a3303886852e1fcacb8c71d53edde4_zpsc979a264.jpg&hash=67d464556e503a042e29e17c041404c373ca825d)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi747.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx119%2Fkitty2170%2F26c195b9edc6221719ed5b4ebc907fa6_zpsd430552f.jpg&hash=57fe790d197b2ba482121140d08fab9c18b613d9)
I know I'm only a few months on hrt but i'm considering going full time at this new gym i signed up at. Do you think i'll pass?
Yes, Yes, Yes!
You pass!
Well... Time to throw myself to the wind. As much as I hate the notion of "passing" ('feigning to be something you're not' well of course i'm a girl, duh)... how do I look? Ignoring the Pictriev nonsense...
I'm almost 3 months down on HRT, and 7 months down on spiro.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1653826_214181785437874_186626703_n.jpg)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1/1907567_213703062152413_1439634264_n.jpg)
Quote from: JenLotus on February 24, 2014, 04:37:04 PM
Well... Time to throw myself to the wind. As much as I hate the notion of "passing" ('feigning to be something you're not' well of course i'm a girl, duh)... how do I look? Ignoring the Pictriev nonsense...
I'm almost 3 months down on HRT, and 7 months down on spiro.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1653826_214181785437874_186626703_n.jpg)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1/1907567_213703062152413_1439634264_n.jpg)
Uh, you posted some girls picture by accident baby. Put the one's of you up and I will evaluate them for you. ;D
Quote from: PrincessPatience on February 22, 2014, 07:03:16 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi747.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx119%2Fkitty2170%2Fb16ff458a3ddd25b0cf2c5e8bf1712d4_zps8df4d768.jpg&hash=c8c69c0d84d682fcd3ed3df8993f98f6acbf1b64)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi747.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx119%2Fkitty2170%2Fd3a3303886852e1fcacb8c71d53edde4_zpsc979a264.jpg&hash=67d464556e503a042e29e17c041404c373ca825d)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi747.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx119%2Fkitty2170%2F26c195b9edc6221719ed5b4ebc907fa6_zpsd430552f.jpg&hash=57fe790d197b2ba482121140d08fab9c18b613d9)
I know I'm only a few months on hrt but i'm considering going full time at this new gym i signed up at. Do you think i'll pass?
Only a FEW months on HRT? Total pass girl! :)
Quote from: JenLotus on February 24, 2014, 04:37:04 PM
Well... Time to throw myself to the wind. As much as I hate the notion of "passing" ('feigning to be something you're not' well of course i'm a girl, duh)... how do I look? Ignoring the Pictriev nonsense...
I'm almost 3 months down on HRT, and 7 months down on spiro.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1653826_214181785437874_186626703_n.jpg)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1/1907567_213703062152413_1439634264_n.jpg)
I'm pretty sure you couldn't pass as male. Nice show.
Quote from: Jill F on February 24, 2014, 04:42:38 PM
I'm pretty sure you couldn't pass as male. Nice show.
Well thats... pretty encouraging. Makes me understand why the doctor I saw this morning asked which direction I was transitioning... but... bleh.
Well here's me... I think that with laser hair removal I should be able to pass... until I open my mouth!
(and yes, that is a cheap wig - pretty hideous right?)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOR2MtHo.jpg&hash=268e0a7115ac9d803e3031b54e3297ca6b29dafc)
Quote from: JenLotus on February 24, 2014, 04:37:04 PM
Well... Time to throw myself to the wind. As much as I hate the notion of "passing" ('feigning to be something you're not' well of course i'm a girl, duh)... how do I look? Ignoring the Pictriev nonsense...
I'm almost 3 months down on HRT, and 7 months down on spiro.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1653826_214181785437874_186626703_n.jpg)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1/1907567_213703062152413_1439634264_n.jpg)
Thumbs up here!
Quote from: FilaFord on February 24, 2014, 04:56:59 PM
Well here's me... I think that with laser hair removal I should be able to pass... until I open my mouth!
(and yes, that is a cheap wig - pretty hideous right?)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOR2MtHo.jpg&hash=268e0a7115ac9d803e3031b54e3297ca6b29dafc)
I think you look good and to me the wig doesn't look that bad :)
Quote from: FilaFord on February 24, 2014, 04:56:59 PM
Well here's me... I think that with laser hair removal I should be able to pass... until I open my mouth!
(and yes, that is a cheap wig - pretty hideous right?)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOR2MtHo.jpg&hash=268e0a7115ac9d803e3031b54e3297ca6b29dafc)
Yeah you have a good starting point.
I recommend
1. laser
2. good shaving routine - laser isn't as quick as you would think
3. hormones
4. learn about contouring
5. thin the inner part of your brows a little. Try and create a bit more arch.
Quote from: kira21 ♡♡♡ on February 24, 2014, 05:19:59 PM
Yeah you have a good starting point.
I recommend
1. laser
2. good shaving routine - laser isn't as quick as you would think
3. hormones
4. learn about contouring
5. thin the inner part of your brows a little. Try and create a bit more arch.
Oh definitely need to do something with those brows! This picture is from a few weeks ago when my wife did my make-up. She plucked a little bit of my brows but she refused to make them too feminine which I can understand. As for the shaving routine, I feel that it's hopeless. It is so thick and I usually have to wait about an hour after I shave to apply make-up since I have to give a chance for the blood to go away...
Started hormones last week so hopefully they can work some magic. Going to probably start Laser within the next couple of weeks.
I definitely will need more practice with makeup, but I am getting much better at eye-makeup so I am definitely happy about that. My wife said I have a manly chin, so hopefully hormones can do something in that area, but if not then FFS definitely will whenever I am ready for that milestone!
Thanks for the pointers :)
Quote from: FilaFord on February 24, 2014, 04:56:59 PM
Well here's me... I think that with laser hair removal I should be able to pass... until I open my mouth!
I think you'll just fine with laser and a different wig. The wig length and style are fine--it's the colour mismatch with your brows and stubble that's creating dissonance.
Quote from: JenLotus on February 24, 2014, 04:37:04 PM
Well... Time to throw myself to the wind. As much as I hate the notion of "passing" ('feigning to be something you're not' well of course i'm a girl, duh)... how do I look? Ignoring the Pictriev nonsense...
I'd wolf-whistle if I had a wolf. >:-)
So I'm back again. I am now over 6 months on estrogen and 3 on Sprio. So I'm making progress in almost every aspect of my life. Went to see my family for the first time not in "boy mode" Went for subtle to help ease them in. Any advice as my next time seeing them I plan on being less subtle. I realize that these are taken with a potato.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi917.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad15%2FHayleyRMc%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps8ffe057e.jpg&hash=aaa68fd9ed0a66b35cd502dfd7d933f2e6c68186) (http://s917.photobucket.com/user/HayleyRMc/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps8ffe057e.jpg.html) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi917.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad15%2FHayleyRMc%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps55d1b7e5.jpg&hash=cb2995e7a862f76f6d971991df90c664389e6f5e) (http://s917.photobucket.com/user/HayleyRMc/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps55d1b7e5.jpg.html)
Quote from: G:W:Y:N:N:E on February 24, 2014, 05:54:40 PM
I'd wolf-whistle if I had a wolf. >:-)
We have a KAT! See what he can do.*giggles* :)
Quote from: Hayley on February 24, 2014, 07:17:06 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi917.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad15%2FHayleyRMc%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps55d1b7e5.jpg&hash=cb2995e7a862f76f6d971991df90c664389e6f5e) (http://s917.photobucket.com/user/HayleyRMc/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps55d1b7e5.jpg.html)
Hayley,
There's no way you could go in boy mode with that pretty face and big eyes, you don't have a boy mode honey.
Barbie you always find the funnest websites!! I think I just got really lucky with mine but had to post :P
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi145.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr227%2FThaliesin%2FScreenshot2014-02-24174931_zps90b4d834.png&hash=7444a527a7006e866ec93f3e0476541288b976c3)
Quote from: PrincessPatience on February 22, 2014, 07:03:16 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi747.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx119%2Fkitty2170%2F26c195b9edc6221719ed5b4ebc907fa6_zpsd430552f.jpg&hash=57fe790d197b2ba482121140d08fab9c18b613d9)
I know I'm only a few months on hrt but i'm considering going full time at this new gym i signed up at. Do you think i'll pass?
Princess, take a stick with you to the gym to keep the boys off of you. ;)
Quote from: Hayley on February 24, 2014, 07:17:06 PM
So I'm back again. I am now over 6 months on estrogen and 3 on Sprio. So I'm making progress in almost every aspect of my life. Went to see my family for the first time not in "boy mode" Went for subtle to help ease them in. Any advice as my next time seeing them I plan on being less subtle. I realize that these are taken with a potato.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi917.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad15%2FHayleyRMc%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps8ffe057e.jpg&hash=aaa68fd9ed0a66b35cd502dfd7d933f2e6c68186) (http://s917.photobucket.com/user/HayleyRMc/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps8ffe057e.jpg.html) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi917.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad15%2FHayleyRMc%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps55d1b7e5.jpg&hash=cb2995e7a862f76f6d971991df90c664389e6f5e) (http://s917.photobucket.com/user/HayleyRMc/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps55d1b7e5.jpg.html)
I am so envious! I just love your hair, eyes, face......................Total male fail!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1364.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr739%2Fharrbr02%2FWill_I_Pass_3_zps74681451.png&hash=c97a1d9c05bdf56ddbe53fde0459ea04daf1dfa8) (http://s1364.photobucket.com/user/harrbr02/media/Will_I_Pass_3_zps74681451.png.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1364.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr739%2Fharrbr02%2FWill_I_Pass_1_zps97249572.png&hash=f6e4bbb904dc5bd85e51f3fc6dc145d413629790) (http://s1364.photobucket.com/user/harrbr02/media/Will_I_Pass_1_zps97249572.png.html)
I like my smile.
Quote from: Azahara on February 24, 2014, 08:50:24 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1364.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr739%2Fharrbr02%2FWill_I_Pass_3_zps74681451.png&hash=c97a1d9c05bdf56ddbe53fde0459ea04daf1dfa8) (http://s1364.photobucket.com/user/harrbr02/media/Will_I_Pass_3_zps74681451.png.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1364.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr739%2Fharrbr02%2FWill_I_Pass_1_zps97249572.png&hash=f6e4bbb904dc5bd85e51f3fc6dc145d413629790) (http://s1364.photobucket.com/user/harrbr02/media/Will_I_Pass_1_zps97249572.png.html)
I like my smile.
look nice
You all look so gorgeous. Sometimes I feel like some of you are lying and posting cis women pictures because of how good you look!
Is anyone excited for when I start HRT? :P
Quote from: Chic on February 24, 2014, 09:48:46 PM
You all look so gorgeous. Sometimes I feel like some of you are lying and posting cis women pictures because of how good you look!
Is anyone excited for when I start HRT? :P
hopefully your happy for it!!!
Quote from: Hayley on February 24, 2014, 07:17:06 PM
So I'm back again. I am now over 6 months on estrogen and 3 on Sprio. So I'm making progress in almost every aspect of my life. Went to see my family for the first time not in "boy mode" Went for subtle to help ease them in. Any advice as my next time seeing them I plan on being less subtle. I realize that these are taken with a potato.
Beautiful as always, Hayley, and I agree with Jessica! Your eyes are STUNNING.
Muffin, Jessica and Shantel thank you for the comments. I do, sadly still have a boy mode that doesn't fail that much. Hopefully I won't have to worry about that soon. Thank you ladies for the wonderful confidence boost.
Quote from: Azahara on February 24, 2014, 08:50:24 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1364.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr739%2Fharrbr02%2FWill_I_Pass_1_zps97249572.png&hash=f6e4bbb904dc5bd85e51f3fc6dc145d413629790) (http://s1364.photobucket.com/user/harrbr02/media/Will_I_Pass_1_zps97249572.png.html)
I like my smile.
You do have a nice smile, very cute and I love the lambie-pie hair even if you probably don't, I would trade with you in a heartbeat. You look very female to me hon! :)
Quote from: Harlow on February 24, 2014, 07:53:33 PM
Barbie you always find the funnest websites!! I think I just got really lucky with mine but had to post :P
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi145.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr227%2FThaliesin%2FScreenshot2014-02-24174931_zps90b4d834.png&hash=7444a527a7006e866ec93f3e0476541288b976c3)
I think Pictriev got it spot on. You look lovely! x
Quote from: Hayley on February 25, 2014, 10:11:22 AM
Muffin, Jessica and Shantel thank you for the comments. I do, sadly still have a boy mode that doesn't fail that much. Hopefully I won't have to worry about that soon. Thank you ladies for the wonderful confidence boost.
The only reason it may be failing.... is it's the ones closest to you or that know you well. First they see you everyday (possibly) second no matter how much you change or how much you appear as a women to everyone else...to them it takes awhile for them to accept it.
My sister has finally come to the point that she see's nothing more than a woman...the thing is, she doesn't tell me this unless I get very down and start questioning myself. She then tells me in a way...that she is shocked that I'm even questioning myself. This is the point everyone needs to get too....to just not question yourself!!
I tried that site for giggles this is the result.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1373.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag389%2Fmanaknightdragon%2Flol_zpsf1f2528a.jpg&hash=199003230bab213e5d41191c1569fced6ac5f3b2) (http://s1373.photobucket.com/user/manaknightdragon/media/lol_zpsf1f2528a.jpg.html)
Quote from: JenLotus on February 24, 2014, 04:37:04 PM
Well... Time to throw myself to the wind. As much as I hate the notion of "passing" ('feigning to be something you're not' well of course i'm a girl, duh)... how do I look? Ignoring the Pictriev nonsense...
I'm almost 3 months down on HRT, and 7 months down on spiro.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1653826_214181785437874_186626703_n.jpg)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1/1907567_213703062152413_1439634264_n.jpg)
You are extremely pretty! I really like your hair cut/color as well.
Quote from: Azahara on February 24, 2014, 08:50:24 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1364.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr739%2Fharrbr02%2FWill_I_Pass_3_zps74681451.png&hash=c97a1d9c05bdf56ddbe53fde0459ea04daf1dfa8) (http://s1364.photobucket.com/user/harrbr02/media/Will_I_Pass_3_zps74681451.png.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1364.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr739%2Fharrbr02%2FWill_I_Pass_1_zps97249572.png&hash=f6e4bbb904dc5bd85e51f3fc6dc145d413629790) (http://s1364.photobucket.com/user/harrbr02/media/Will_I_Pass_1_zps97249572.png.html)
I like my smile.
I like your smile too. :)
I believe that you will pass quite well!
Quote from: Hayley on February 24, 2014, 07:17:06 PM
So I'm back again. I am now over 6 months on estrogen and 3 on Sprio. So I'm making progress in almost every aspect of my life. Went to see my family for the first time not in "boy mode" Went for subtle to help ease them in. Any advice as my next time seeing them I plan on being less subtle. I realize that these are taken with a potato.
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You are passing in these pictures.
Quote from: AlyssaL on February 26, 2014, 11:02:44 AM
Hey All,
I am new to the site and thought I would post into this thread for either a self esteem boost or stomping :) I am pre HRT and only wearing tinting moisturizer, lip gloss, eye liners, and mascara in this picture.
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Thoughts?
Hi Alyssa, judging by your picture I would definitely say that you are well on your way to passing. There are some things that makes you look a bit masculine, but they will wash away once you start HRT. Good luck and keep up the good work!
Quote from: AlyssaL on February 26, 2014, 11:02:44 AM
Hey All,
I am new to the site and thought I would post into this thread for either a self esteem boost or stomping :) I am pre HRT and only wearing tinting moisturizer, lip gloss, eye liners, and mascara in this picture.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi122.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo279%2Fcautiouslyoptimistic81%2FIMG_20140124_173718_zpsbc45c711.jpg&hash=1c002f2144c7575e3aecaad8e88e02f31f2928e4)
Thoughts?
HRT will help with the face, but the only thing missing is a big smile. You would be amazed how much one will feminize your face and pass you well. It also show's confidence and strength. A smile means I am happy into my very being and I am letting it show. It warms others heart's. Other than that, PASS! :)
As you all know I don't wear makeup well and have been reticent about showing my real face, but here goes anyway. let me know what you think and please don't be mean to me, I know I'm not pretty!
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Shan,
You have a nice femme teardrop jaw line, cute mouth & button nose. FFS, could botox for bigger lips, narrow the nose, move eyes in more. Ear & lobe ectomy (make smaller). Work on the eyebrows. Learn Make up. Grow head hair out. Lord love a duck, it is going to cost a bizillion bucks electrolysis all that facial & body hair! You will look pretty cute once hrt has done the magic! lol Toss the bonnet. Just kidding. That is funny Shan.
Been a while since I have had time here, busy with family happenings, will try to catch up here.
Your friend,
Jamie
Quote from: Shantel on February 26, 2014, 01:57:24 PM
As you all know I don't wear makeup well and have been reticent about showing my real face, but here goes anyway. let me know what you think and please don't be mean to me, I know I'm not pretty!
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Well,,,the girls on the laser clinic are sure gonna be happy about you,,,
lol
nice smile though
Quote from: Harlow on February 24, 2014, 07:53:33 PM
Barbie you always find the funnest websites!! I think I just got really lucky with mine but had to post :P
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You look great!
My verdict from Pictrieve is mostly 99%
feminine masculine.
barbie~~
Quote from: Shantel on February 26, 2014, 01:57:24 PM
As you all know I don't wear makeup well and have been reticent about showing my real face, but here goes anyway. let me know what you think and please don't be mean to me, I know I'm not pretty!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2Fxq90%2F197%2F2q0d.jpg&hash=ef29292baeef9d3b589403cf2a79f1250d390fa1) (https://imageshack.com/i/5h2q0dj)
Girl, you have just GOT to hook me up with your Electrologist!*giggle* ;D
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on February 26, 2014, 04:38:19 PM
I just run this pic through Pictrev site :D.
Let me guess? It said a 17 year old female cheerleader, didn't it? *giggles* :)
Quote from: Shantel on February 26, 2014, 01:57:24 PM
As you all know I don't wear makeup well and have been reticent about showing my real face, but here goes anyway. let me know what you think and please don't be mean to me, I know I'm not pretty!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2Fxq90%2F197%2F2q0d.jpg&hash=ef29292baeef9d3b589403cf2a79f1250d390fa1) (https://imageshack.com/i/5h2q0dj)
Shantel, what can I say?? LMAO!!, he, he, he, he ha ha ha lol! Thank's for brightening up our day! Oh by the way, your beutiful as always hon.
Ally ;)
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on February 26, 2014, 04:38:19 PM
I just run this pic through Pictrev site :D.
I gotta try that myself, lol!
I think long hair makes a better chance of getting a higher feminine score. I got 98% although the photo was taken 2 years ago. Should I grow my hair longer? I am already tired of managing my hair.
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barbie~~
Quote from: Shantel on February 26, 2014, 01:57:24 PM
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OMG thank you ladies, you don't know how you have made my day and helped my self esteem, although Jamie, I've been told that my eyes being wider apart makes me look so much more intelligent. I can't wait to start HRT, my counselor is like an arctic river, frozen at the mouth, he is speechless and won't say anything, so I'm seriously thinking of finding one that is more amicable. My facial hair is lighter so I think I may have to go for electrolysis, does it hurrrrt a lot? Thank all of you beautiful ladies for your input, I hope I look half as good as you do. Baaaaaaaah! Oh-erm excuse me I have a slight speech impediment. These are for you, I didn't eat any.:icon_bunch:
Quote from: Shantel on February 26, 2014, 01:57:24 PM
As you all know I don't wear makeup well and have been reticent about showing my real face, but here goes anyway. let me know what you think and please don't be mean to me, I know I'm not pretty!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2Fxq90%2F197%2F2q0d.jpg&hash=ef29292baeef9d3b589403cf2a79f1250d390fa1) (https://imageshack.com/i/5h2q0dj)
The goatee and monobrow have got to go. Unless it's the mountain pass.
Quote from: Nicolette on February 26, 2014, 06:02:19 PM
The goatee and monobrow have got to go. Unless it's the mountain pass.
You're so sweet, thank you dear! ;D I have to quite my cigarette habit, they taste so good but I just can't stand those awful filter tips, they get stuck in my teeth and when I swallow them they cause constipation. I heard that the endocrinologist frowns on tobacco use if we are on HRT as it can cause serious problems.
Quote from: Shantel on February 26, 2014, 06:54:20 PM
You're so sweet, thank you dear! ;D I have to quite my cigarette habit, they taste so good but I just can't stand those awful filter tips, they get stuck in my teeth and when I swallow them they cause constipation. I heard that the endocrinologist frowns on tobacco use if we are on HRT as it can cause serious problems.
I'm all ears. You've only got yourself to blame. As you know, second-hand tobacco and leather boots are bad for you! You don't want to get his goat, now.
Quote from: Nicolette on February 26, 2014, 07:22:59 PM
I'm all ears. You've only got yourself to blame. As you know, second-hand tobacco and leather boots are bad for you! You don't want to get his goat, now.
Love you! ;)
Quote from: badgrrl on February 26, 2014, 07:22:12 PM
Hello gals! I'm Mel and this is my first post in this forum! Please tell me what you think with complete honesty. I'm not on hormones, and I should probably get my eyebrows done. Any tips or tricks would be greatly appreciated! :P
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you look quite feminine in the first two photos with the hair in front of one side of your face. from those two photos you can see you'll do great on hormones
Quote from: Shantel on February 26, 2014, 01:57:24 PM
As you all know I don't wear makeup well and have been reticent about showing my real face, but here goes anyway. let me know what you think and please don't be mean to me, I know I'm not pretty!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2Fxq90%2F197%2F2q0d.jpg&hash=ef29292baeef9d3b589403cf2a79f1250d390fa1) (https://imageshack.com/i/5h2q0dj)
At least you're not a dog like me. ;)
Quote from: Nikko on February 26, 2014, 07:38:33 PM
At least you're not a dog like me. ;)
Oh pleeaase, you are the cutest puppy!
Quote from: AlyssaL on February 26, 2014, 12:54:49 PM
Thanks for the support!
Would you mind pointing out what you mean? I personally think that my jawline, chin, thin lips, brow, and nose all need some tweaks. I am happy with my cheek bones though, so that's a start :)
Its funny, I never noticed how small my eyes are compared to my face till I started taking pictures of me in make up. I am sure there are ways to offset that with hair styling and makeup though.
Alyssa
I would suggest a different hairstyle... Something that draws attention away from the jaw. I've been told that such cuts/styles as you have draw attention to a masculine jaw line.
Quote from: badgrrl on February 26, 2014, 07:22:12 PM
Hello gals! I'm Mel and this is my first post in this forum! Please tell me what you think with complete honesty. I'm not on hormones, and I should probably get my eyebrows done. Any tips or tricks would be greatly appreciated! :P
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You are so pretty, you are a prime candidate for a stellar transition!
Quote from: badgrrl on February 26, 2014, 07:22:12 PM
Hello gals! I'm Mel and this is my first post in this forum! Please tell me what you think with complete honesty. I'm not on hormones, and I should probably get my eyebrows done. Any tips or tricks would be greatly appreciated! :P
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I think you are off to a good start and will do rather well :)
:) Thank you all very much! <3
Quote from: Caysee Danielle on February 26, 2014, 10:15:51 PM
Ok, as requested, pictures from the side. Ignoring the beard shadow, is there anything else preventing me from being passable? I think I look horribly ugly from the side, but can't judge whether its actually anything to do with being passable as female. Also, sorry for the crappy picture quality, it's all I have for now, but I think it's good enough to judge facial structure passability.
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Please don't quote the photos, I'll probably delete this post as I hate the way I look in the photos.
Male brow bossing.
I suggest you talk with Jennygirl about doing a little photoshop vFFS for you.
Quote from: badgrrl on February 26, 2014, 07:22:12 PM
Hello gals! I'm Mel and this is my first post in this forum! Please tell me what you think with complete honesty. I'm not on hormones, and I should probably get my eyebrows done. Any tips or tricks would be greatly appreciated! :P
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F2z80pc0.jpg&hash=ebc5e7c54a3ed11ceee76e90fa4757ae9ef7852b)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.ph.upi.com%2Fcollection%2Ffp%2Fupi%2F132%2F8bf9e8f84d4c679455959184a1b297d8%2FDiana-Ross_2_1.jpg&hash=849acd4596151a584886263b12dfad014a681951)
Hey Mel. Look who's got a little Diana Ross going. :o
Quote from: Caysee Danielle on February 26, 2014, 10:15:51 PM
Ok, as requested, pictures from the side. Ignoring the beard shadow, is there anything else preventing me from being passable? I think I look horribly ugly from the side, but can't judge whether its actually anything to do with being passable as female. Also, sorry for the crappy picture quality, it's all I have for now, but I think it's good enough to judge facial structure passability.
Please don't quote the photos, I'll probably delete this post as I hate the way I look in the photos.
From my perspective, the largest hindrance to your ability to be read as consistently female is the ratio or proportion between your nose and jaw. That being said, I think that having a weak jaw won't necessarily stop your from passing if you grow your hair into a longer, more feminine style, shape your brows, and get electrolysis.
Thanks. I'll likely be looking into a nose job, maybe doing something about my chin. Those are the 2 things I've always hated about myself, even before wanting to live as a woman. Growing my hair is definitely happening as well as laser and maybe electrolysis for whatever laser doesn't get.
I don't know though. I just have this feeling I'm always going to be ugly. I look okay, even good, from certain angles but then from others I just want to die. :(
Quote from: Caysee Danielle on February 26, 2014, 11:35:06 PM
I don't know though. I just have this feeling I'm always going to be ugly. I look okay, even good, from certain angles but then from others I just want to die. :(
I don't know about that. You look very passable from the front. As for the side, I would clean up your 5:00 shadow, smile, and maybe try a different hairstyle.
I struggle with my looks as well (my girlfriend always tells me, "welcome to the club") but I've come to the conclusion that I'd rather be an ugly woman than an unhappy man. Look around. Women come in all shapes, sizes, and looks. Like I said I'm not too confident about my own looks, but after coming back from a work function, my girlfriend made the comment that I'm well on my way to becoming the best looking woman in the small group of mine (I only have two others on my teams). Counting my youngest son's mom and a few others, I'm not doing too bad :).
Jane
Quote from: JaneNicole2013 on February 27, 2014, 06:55:44 AM
I don't know about that. You look very passable from the front. As for the side, I would clean up your 5:00 shadow, smile, and maybe try a different hairstyle.
I struggle with my looks as well (my girlfriend always tells me, "welcome to the club") but I've come to the conclusion that I'd rather be an ugly woman than an unhappy man. Look around. Women come in all shapes, sizes, and looks. Like I said I'm not too confident about my own looks, but after coming back from a work function, my girlfriend made the comment that I'm well on my way to becoming the best looking woman in the small group of mine (I only have two others on my teams). Counting my youngest son's mom and a few others, I'm not doing too bad :).
Jane
That reminds me of something I started telling myself when I started going out as a girl. A voice in the back of my head would say "If I go out dressed as a girl, what if I don't pass?" to which I would respond by saying "Well, I definitely won't pass if I dress like a guy."
Quote from: Caysee Danielle on February 26, 2014, 11:35:06 PM
I don't know though. I just have this feeling I'm always going to be ugly. I look okay, even good, from certain angles but then from others I just want to die. :(
Casey we all have had our up's downs, parts of our bodies we hate and want to change.
However as for you I have to go along with other girls here. If you were to grow your hair in a more feminine style, work on your brows a little, and either get laser treatments or electrolysis for that 5:00 shadow I'm sure you'd pass from all angles. We all go through this. Are you on hrt? If not, hrt will help some with your side profile.
I was told previously and in another thread that I have a few masculine features. Can anyone tell me what they are? Looking in a mirror, I have a hard time figuring out what my masculine features are exactly. Can anyone identify them?
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Sorry , can't see them :D You look great and feminine to me , face and body
Quote from: Allyda on February 27, 2014, 10:32:29 AM
Casey we all have had our up's downs, parts of our bodies we hate and want to change.
However as for you I have to go along with other girls here. If you were to grow your hair in a more feminine style, work on your brows a little, and either get laser treatments or electrolysis for that 5:00 shadow I'm sure you'd pass from all angles. We all go through this. Are you on hrt? If not, hrt will help some with your side profile.
Thanks. I'm not on HRT yet, hopefully in 4-5 months. I already have had my brows waxed, I guess I need to thin them out some more still?
Quote from: riversong on February 27, 2014, 10:37:44 AM
I was told previously and in another thread that I have a few masculine features. Can anyone tell me what they are? Looking in a mirror, I have a hard time figuring out what my masculine features are exactly. Can anyone identify them?
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I think it might be the fat distribution which HRT will fix
Quote from: riversong on February 27, 2014, 10:37:44 AM
I was told previously and in another thread that I have a few masculine features. Can anyone tell me what they are? Looking in a mirror, I have a hard time figuring out what my masculine features are exactly. Can anyone identify them?
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I don't see it either, you may have some brow bossing but without a side facial photo I can't tell. Personally I think you look pretty good riversong!
Quote from: Caysee Danielle on February 27, 2014, 10:45:39 AM
Thanks. I'm not on HRT yet, hopefully in 4-5 months. I already have had my brows waxed, I guess I need to thin them out some more still?
In my opinion you already pass. You have good fat distribution and high cheekbones. Even with the facial hair you look like a girl. There's things you could do to make yourself prettier (eyebrows, shaving, makeup), but in terms of passing you're already there.
Quote from: riversong on February 27, 2014, 10:37:44 AM
I was told previously and in another thread that I have a few masculine features. Can anyone tell me what they are? Looking in a mirror, I have a hard time figuring out what my masculine features are exactly. Can anyone identify them?
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You look good! And no bright sunlight behind you ;)
Quote from: Caysee Danielle on February 27, 2014, 10:45:39 AM
Thanks. I'm not on HRT yet, hopefully in 4-5 months. I already have had my brows waxed, I guess I need to thin them out some more still?
Waxing might not be the best option for your eyebrows. I have the same problem with mine you have with yours, they are too low on my brow/too close to my eyes. What I do to remedy this is (I have a single hair laser constant beam I use for eyebrows) I shape them more round by working mostly with the bottom of my eyebrows leaving the top alone as much as possible. This gets them up a little away from your eyes. You could use tweezers to accomplish this. I used tweezers on mine before I got my lasers which if you get good one's like I did they cost a good bit of $$. However a good single hair laser can be had for around $200. on eBay. Anyway that's my suggestion for your eyebrows.
Hope it helps. ;)
Quote from: Allyda on February 27, 2014, 11:32:22 AM
Waxing might not be the best option for your eyebrows. I have the same problem with mine you have with yours, they are too low on my brow/too close to my eyes. What I do to remedy this is (I have a single hair laser constant beam I use for eyebrows) I shape them more round by working mostly with the bottom of my eyebrows leaving the top alone as much as possible. This gets them up a little away from your eyes. You could use tweezers to accomplish this. I used tweezers on mine before I got my lasers which if you get good one's like I did they cost a good bit of $$. However a good single hair laser can be had for around $200. on eBay. Anyway that's my suggestion for your eyebrows.
Hope it helps. ;)
I'm a little confused. Why would waxing not be able to shape my eyebrows?
Quote from: Caysee Danielle on February 27, 2014, 12:22:43 PM
I'm a little confused. Why would waxing not be able to shape my eyebrows?
I'm not saying it can't. I stated it may, may not be the best option. The reason is you don't have the fine level of control with waxing you do with other methods. That's all. If you can get the fine level of control to shape your eyebrows, or, if your having it professionally done maybe I
'm wrong. It's been over ten years since I've had anything waxed. I just don't have the need anymore.
Oh yeah, I'm not doing it myself. I had them done professionally.
I wish I could afford to have such things done professionally. But as of the moment and the near future I'm restrained to doing such things myself. I live alone by myself, and own my home plus one extra lot so I have that upkeep plus my vehicle, etc. I have an extra room and tried renting it out once, but my kindness was mistaken for weakness and I was forced to evict them. And here in Florida that's harder than it sounds.
Getting back on topic, you have a very good facial structure and will do very well on hrt. It all take's time I know and some of us myself included get impatient wanting to just shed the wrong skin we're wearing, but we just have to learn to be a little more patient sometimes.
I just passed the 4 month mark on HRT. Am I making any progress? I feel like I'm starting to get into the semi androgynous area.
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Thought I'd also include a photo timeline of the last 6 years of photo IDs.
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From left to right: 2007 / 2010 / 2012 / 2014
2 Months (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,154107.msg1326818.html#msg1326818)
Pre HRT (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,146688.msg1255483.html#msg1255483)
Quote from: Zoe Snow on February 27, 2014, 07:26:22 PM
I just passed the 4 month mark on HRT. Am I making any progress?
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Thought I'd also include a photo timeline of the last 6 years of photo IDs.
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From left to right: 2007 / 2010 / 2012 / 2014
2 Months (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,154107.msg1326818.html#msg1326818)
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seems to be working
Quote from: Zoe Snow on February 27, 2014, 07:26:22 PM
I just passed the 4 month mark on HRT. Am I making any progress? I feel like I'm starting to get into the semi androgynous area.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthelifeofzoe.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F02%2Fphoto-1-copy.jpg&hash=9a0e841aaf18b081fe56ba37f7dfb72d6ef349e4)
Thought I'd also include a photo timeline of the last 6 years of photo IDs.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthelifeofzoe.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F02%2F1969732_10103407760712148_1105305401_o.jpg&hash=634712cd34d3317f95c1dc3d1d4c1ea8f9d75d3f)
From left to right: 2007 / 2010 / 2012 / 2014
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Definitely!
Quote from: Caysee Danielle on February 27, 2014, 10:45:39 AM
Thanks. I'm not on HRT yet, hopefully in 4-5 months. I already have had my brows waxed, I guess I need to thin them out some more still?
:o I definitely thought you were on hrt. Also, you are adorable! I think you have what could be called different features, but I think it is your difference which makes you adorable and unique. It makes you stand out in my mind, in a good way :). Perhaps you could call it a quirk? I love small imperfections- to me, they are what make a person truly beautiful. Who wants to be a perfect barbie, anyways?
Quote from: Zoe Snow on February 27, 2014, 07:26:22 PM
I just passed the 4 month mark on HRT. Am I making any progress? I feel like I'm starting to get into the semi androgynous area.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthelifeofzoe.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F02%2Fphoto-1-copy.jpg&hash=9a0e841aaf18b081fe56ba37f7dfb72d6ef349e4)
Thought I'd also include a photo timeline of the last 6 years of photo IDs.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthelifeofzoe.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F02%2F1969732_10103407760712148_1105305401_o.jpg&hash=634712cd34d3317f95c1dc3d1d4c1ea8f9d75d3f)
Looks like you have lost a lot of weight, Zoe. Congratulations. :)
From left to right: 2007 / 2010 / 2012 / 2014
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Alright, I was slightly drunk when I took this, so I apologize if it its fuzzy or something is wrong etc. But um yeah. Ive been on HRT for roughly a month and a half now, and I have a friend who loves doing makeup. Lol lucky me right? So how do I look? I just turned 18 btw and moved out of my parents. Im in the process of growing out my hair.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVsMVpiz.jpg&hash=34d596a04046c577d69831c421dc3d8c0678901c)
Quote from: Tic Est Ipse on February 28, 2014, 06:21:49 AM
Alright, I was slightly drunk when I took this, so I apologize if it its fuzzy or something is wrong etc. But um yeah. Ive been on HRT for roughly a month and a half now, and I have a friend who loves doing makeup. Lol lucky me right? So how do I look? I just turned 18 btw and moved out of my parents. Im in the process of growing out my hair.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVsMVpiz.jpg&hash=34d596a04046c577d69831c421dc3d8c0678901c)
So extremely cute, you will transition nicely!
Quote from: Zoe Snow on February 27, 2014, 07:26:22 PM
I just passed the 4 month mark on HRT. Am I making any progress? I feel like I'm starting to get into the semi androgynous area.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthelifeofzoe.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F02%2Fphoto-1-copy.jpg&hash=9a0e841aaf18b081fe56ba37f7dfb72d6ef349e4)
Thought I'd also include a photo timeline of the last 6 years of photo IDs.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthelifeofzoe.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F02%2F1969732_10103407760712148_1105305401_o.jpg&hash=634712cd34d3317f95c1dc3d1d4c1ea8f9d75d3f)
From left to right: 2007 / 2010 / 2012 / 2014
2 Months (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,154107.msg1326818.html#msg1326818)
Pre HRT (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,146688.msg1255483.html#msg1255483)
Looking good!
Quote from: Tic Est Ipse on February 28, 2014, 06:21:49 AM
Alright, I was slightly drunk when I took this, so I apologize if it its fuzzy or something is wrong etc. But um yeah. Ive been on HRT for roughly a month and a half now, and I have a friend who loves doing makeup. Lol lucky me right? So how do I look? I just turned 18 btw and moved out of my parents. Im in the process of growing out my hair.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVsMVpiz.jpg&hash=34d596a04046c577d69831c421dc3d8c0678901c)
You have such a lovely face. I agree you will do well as your hrt progresses. I only wish I could have transitioned at your age.
Pre-everything, the hair is made using a wig app.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FC83LB7Ph.jpg&hash=3dca25ff6b2197b5f7cf6d00b76e71f1aa6a9f9f)
I can't see enough of your face to make any recommendations. Maybe if you included tour whole face in the photo?
Quote from: Chic on March 01, 2014, 09:52:34 PM
Pre-everything, the hair is made using a wig app.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FC83LB7Ph.jpg&hash=3dca25ff6b2197b5f7cf6d00b76e71f1aa6a9f9f)
Ally ;)
Quote from: Allyda on March 01, 2014, 11:23:29 PM
I can't see enough of your face to make any recommendations. Maybe if you included tour whole face in the photo?Ally ;)
That's really tough because I use my bangs to cover my masculine eyebrows, and they end up covering one eye, which is my lazy eye. Also, it's very hard to make an edited picture look real when you're using a wig app, so this was the only good one I could come up with :P
In your Avatar photo I can see more of the real you. You already have a good bone structure to start out with. You will do well with hrt.
Quote from: Allyda on March 02, 2014, 12:12:16 AM
In your Avatar photo I can see more of the real you. You already have a good bone structure to start out with. You will do well with hrt.
You can see more aspects of my bone structure and face on my Instagram, if that might help more:
http://Instagram.com/setsukaheel
Also I've already posted here a few times, the wig picture was more to show how that hair would look on me, cause I wasn't sure :P
Thank you so much!
And here's the picture in full color:
http://imgur.com/GgfdqzO
Quote from: Tic Est Ipse on February 28, 2014, 06:21:49 AM
Alright, I was slightly drunk when I took this, so I apologize if it its fuzzy or something is wrong etc. But um yeah. Ive been on HRT for roughly a month and a half now, and I have a friend who loves doing makeup. Lol lucky me right? So how do I look? I just turned 18 btw and moved out of my parents. Im in the process of growing out my hair.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVsMVpiz.jpg&hash=34d596a04046c577d69831c421dc3d8c0678901c)
You have lovely lips and eyes.
You seem to pass at least when you are drunken :D
barbie~~
Quote from: Zoe Snow on February 27, 2014, 07:26:22 PM
I just passed the 4 month mark on HRT. Am I making any progress? I feel like I'm starting to get into the semi androgynous area.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthelifeofzoe.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F02%2Fphoto-1-copy.jpg&hash=9a0e841aaf18b081fe56ba37f7dfb72d6ef349e4)
Thought I'd also include a photo timeline of the last 6 years of photo IDs.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthelifeofzoe.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F02%2F1969732_10103407760712148_1105305401_o.jpg&hash=634712cd34d3317f95c1dc3d1d4c1ea8f9d75d3f)
From left to right: 2007 / 2010 / 2012 / 2014
2 Months (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,154107.msg1326818.html#msg1326818)
Pre HRT (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,146688.msg1255483.html#msg1255483)
Probably you need some nice tops for women.
barbie~~
The photo in my current driver license.
At the photo studio, they photoshopped too much.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7443%2F12872814735_f8a59c160b_o.jpg&hash=23b6bd80a94581853292a47d2045979b95224dba)
barbie~~
Quote from: barbie on March 02, 2014, 01:56:26 AM
The photo in my current driver license.
At the photo studio, they photoshopped too much.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7443%2F12872814735_f8a59c160b_o.jpg&hash=23b6bd80a94581853292a47d2045979b95224dba)
barbie~~
So this is shopped then? Otherwise I'd say that judging by the picture you pass.
Quote from: Ashey on November 19, 2013, 10:27:15 AM
Sorry, Poltergeist reference. :P
Ashley, I knew RIGHT AWAY who you were referencing. Great photo memory you have!
This is a beautiful thread. I've only gone two to three pages in, as a newbie here I just hope that everyone continues to keep their expectations real, the nastiness out of it, and is honest in trying to help one another.
Quote from: Tic Est Ipse on February 28, 2014, 06:21:49 AM
Alright, I was slightly drunk when I took this, so I apologize if it its fuzzy or something is wrong etc. But um yeah. Ive been on HRT for roughly a month and a half now, and I have a friend who loves doing makeup. Lol lucky me right? So how do I look? I just turned 18 btw and moved out of my parents. Im in the process of growing out my hair.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVsMVpiz.jpg&hash=34d596a04046c577d69831c421dc3d8c0678901c)
You have very nice features to start with :) I think you will do well
Quote from: Tic Est Ipse on February 28, 2014, 06:21:49 AM
Alright, I was slightly drunk when I took this, so I apologize if it its fuzzy or something is wrong etc. But um yeah. Ive been on HRT for roughly a month and a half now, and I have a friend who loves doing makeup. Lol lucky me right? So how do I look? I just turned 18 btw and moved out of my parents. Im in the process of growing out my hair.
Ahhh oh my god! you look SO MUCH like a friend I had growing up!! I never told him but I had such a crush on him >.<
awkward...
Umm, don't take that as not a compliment though, cuz he was a child then so if you look like him you look feminine (:
The flash in the pic totally washed you out though. :) Also if you grow out your hair it will be hella pretty. *envies your blondeness*
I felt a little silly this morning, so I took so pictures. I'm not wearing any makeup, look a mess, and still am in boy clothes, but I sort of felt cute. Guess, I'm growing some confidence. However, I still don't feel like I come close to passing and need a lot of work done. What do you think?
Again, take it easy on me because I'm still a work in progress and it terrifies me to share my images, but do let me know if I have the potential to pass. I just don't feel like I'm there yet, but other people are telling me that I pass.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3714/12877318943_1d6fc7a3bf.jpg) (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7353/12877658704_cb32e5229d.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7296/12877338443_3a11d40a1a.jpg)
Quote from: learningtolive on March 02, 2014, 07:16:08 AM
I felt a little silly this morning, so I took so pictures. I'm not wearing any makeup, look a mess, and still am in boy clothes, but I sort of felt cute. Guess, I'm growing some confidence. However, I still don't feel like I come close to passing and need a lot of work done. What do you think?
Again, take it easy on me because I'm still a work in progress and it terrifies me to share my images, but do let me know if I have the potential to pass. I just don't feel like I'm there yet, but other people are telling me that I pass.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3714/12877318943_1d6fc7a3bf.jpg) (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7353/12877658704_cb32e5229d.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7296/12877338443_3a11d40a1a.jpg)
I think you're closer than you think you are :)
Quote from: learningtolive on March 02, 2014, 07:16:08 AM
I felt a little silly this morning, so I took so pictures. I'm not wearing any makeup, look a mess, and still am in boy clothes, but I sort of felt cute. Guess, I'm growing some confidence. However, I still don't feel like I come close to passing and need a lot of work done. What do you think?
Again, take it easy on me because I'm still a work in progress and it terrifies me to share my images, but do let me know if I have the potential to pass. I just don't feel like I'm there yet, but other people are telling me that I pass.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3714/12877318943_1d6fc7a3bf.jpg) (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7353/12877658704_cb32e5229d.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7296/12877338443_3a11d40a1a.jpg)
you pass 100%!
Glad you finally posted some pics. Now to think of a name, eh? ;D
Quote from: learningtolive on March 02, 2014, 07:16:08 AM
I felt a little silly this morning, so I took so pictures. I'm not wearing any makeup, look a mess, and still am in boy clothes, but I sort of felt cute. Guess, I'm growing some confidence. However, I still don't feel like I come close to passing and need a lot of work done. What do you think?
I hate to tell you but your pictures didn't post, we just have pictures if a cute girl in her brothers clothes
Quote from: learningtolive on March 02, 2014, 07:16:08 AM
I felt a little silly this morning, so I took so pictures. I'm not wearing any makeup, look a mess, and still am in boy clothes, but I sort of felt cute. Guess, I'm growing some confidence. However, I still don't feel like I come close to passing and need a lot of work done. What do you think?
confidence is the key, but also a bit of experimenting.
You are at the edge of the cliff, like the fool in the Tarot, you are too afraid to jump, because
you may get hurt in the passing... but if you don't do the first step, you will forever stay at square zero...
not so much interesting ;D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F9%2F90%2FRWS_Tarot_00_Fool.jpg&hash=869cccc49464741c1fed1953c6f8274eb774bb89)
Quote from: Marina mtf on March 02, 2014, 08:32:24 AM
You are at the edge of the cliff, like the fool in the Tarot, you are too afraid to jump, because
you may get hurt in the passing... but if you don't do the first step, you will forever stay at square zero...
It's interesting how our transitions are reflected in the Tarot. After the Fool comes the Magician, another powerful card and the next step in the transition...
Quote from: learningtolive on March 02, 2014, 07:16:08 AM
I felt a little silly this morning, so I took so pictures. I'm not wearing any makeup, look a mess, and still am in boy clothes, but I sort of felt cute. Guess, I'm growing some confidence. However, I still don't feel like I come close to passing and need a lot of work done. What do you think?
Again, take it easy on me because I'm still a work in progress and it terrifies me to share my images, but do let me know if I have the potential to pass. I just don't feel like I'm there yet, but other people are telling me that I pass.
Yes you do and you have a darling basic female face and oddly look a lot like I envisioned you just from your postings.
I'm being honest when I say I can't see it myself, so don't spare my feelings if I don't pass. I just keep seeing a boy even though I keep improving in my looks and do appear more female than I once did. Sorry for being a big pain, I'm really not tryng to be that.
Quote from: Marina mtf on March 02, 2014, 08:32:24 AM
confidence is the key, but also a bit of experimenting.
You are at the edge of the cliff, like the fool in the Tarot, you are too afraid to jump, because
you may get hurt in the passing... but if you don't do the first step, you will forever stay at square zero...
not so much interesting ;D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F9%2F90%2FRWS_Tarot_00_Fool.jpg&hash=869cccc49464741c1fed1953c6f8274eb774bb89)
I understand that I'll need to take a leap of faith a some point, but right now I'm just trying to see what everyone else sees. I legitimately have no idea whether I pass or not. I keep getting told that I do by almost everyone and no one is saying that I don't or can't, but yet I can't see it myself. I honestly don't feel like I'm passing. Eventually, I will have to take the plunge and just go out and deal with it. As of right now, I really want to know if I do pass or if people still see a boy. If it's a self image problem, I really wish I knew how to get over it and am trying really really hard to do so. Yeah, makeup and clothing helps a lot, but I do want my natural appearance to look female and not boyish anymore.
Quote from: learningtolive on March 02, 2014, 07:16:08 AM
I felt a little silly this morning, so I took so pictures. I'm not wearing any makeup, look a mess, and still am in boy clothes, but I sort of felt cute. Guess, I'm growing some confidence. However, I still don't feel like I come close to passing and need a lot of work done. What do you think?
Again, take it easy on me because I'm still a work in progress and it terrifies me to share my images, but do let me know if I have the potential to pass. I just don't feel like I'm there yet, but other people are telling me that I pass.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3714/12877318943_1d6fc7a3bf.jpg) (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7353/12877658704_cb32e5229d.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7296/12877338443_3a11d40a1a.jpg)
Uhummmm, yea, I agree with my sisters here. You easily pass. But I know how you feel. I also know how it is to have everyone around you telling you you pass, but you yourself aren't seeing what they're seeing. I'm going through the same thing. You pass fine. Now a change to more feminine clothes would help but you pass, definately! ;)
Quote from: Allyda on March 02, 2014, 10:13:08 AM
Uhummmm, yea, I agree with my sisters here. You easily pass. But I know how you feel. I also know how it is to have everyone around you telling you you pass, but you yourself aren't seeing what they're seeing. I'm going through the same thing. You pass fine. Now a change to more feminine clothes would help but you pass, definately! ;)
Thank you to you and everyone else that has responded.
I want to apologize if there appears any unappreciative behavior on my part. All of you are wonderfully nice and honest people. I'm just frustrated beyond belief that I can't see what everyone else does. I'm confused because it doesn't add up. However, I am very glad to have everyone's feedback and it's nice to know that I do pass. I just don't know why I can't see it and it makes no sense.
Quote from: learningtolive on March 02, 2014, 07:16:08 AM
I felt a little silly this morning, so I took so pictures. I'm not wearing any makeup, look a mess, and still am in boy clothes, but I sort of felt cute. Guess, I'm growing some confidence. However, I still don't feel like I come close to passing and need a lot of work done. What do you think?
Again, take it easy on me because I'm still a work in progress and it terrifies me to share my images, but do let me know if I have the potential to pass. I just don't feel like I'm there yet, but other people are telling me that I pass.
learningtolive,
I think a merit is that you have a fair face. But the fair face can reveal any trace of grey beard area. Also clothes are important, and you may need a nice feminine top. Wearing some eyeliner and mascara would be great.
barbie~~
Quote from: learningtolive on March 02, 2014, 10:20:33 AM
Thank you to you and everyone else that has responded.
I want to apologize if there appears any unappreciative behavior on my part. All of you are wonderfully nice and honest people. I'm just frustrated beyond belief that I can't see what everyone else does. I'm confused because it doesn't add up. However, I am very glad to have everyone's feedback and it's nice to know that I do pass. I just don't know why I can't see it and it makes no sense.
We're so hard on ourselves so it's great to have outside opinions. I think you look cute as a girl.
Quote from: learningtolive on March 02, 2014, 07:16:08 AM
I felt a little silly this morning, so I took so pictures. I'm not wearing any makeup, look a mess, and still am in boy clothes, but I sort of felt cute. Guess, I'm growing some confidence. However, I still don't feel like I come close to passing and need a lot of work done. What do you think?
Again, take it easy on me because I'm still a work in progress and it terrifies me to share my images, but do let me know if I have the potential to pass. I just don't feel like I'm there yet, but other people are telling me that I pass.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3714/12877318943_1d6fc7a3bf.jpg) (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7353/12877658704_cb32e5229d.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7296/12877338443_3a11d40a1a.jpg)
Of course you have a potential to pass, and a great one at that too!
Just keep going and good things will happen!
Quote from: learningtolive on March 02, 2014, 10:20:33 AM
Thank you to you and everyone else that has responded.
I want to apologize if there appears any unappreciative behavior on my part. All of you are wonderfully nice and honest people. I'm just frustrated beyond belief that I can't see what everyone else does. I'm confused because it doesn't add up. However, I am very glad to have everyone's feedback and it's nice to know that I do pass. I just don't know why I can't see it and it makes no sense.
The most significant issue I see is a bit of a beard shadow.
Quote from: learningtolive on March 02, 2014, 07:16:08 AM
I felt a little silly this morning, so I took so pictures. I'm not wearing any makeup, look a mess, and still am in boy clothes, but I sort of felt cute. Guess, I'm growing some confidence. However, I still don't feel like I come close to passing and need a lot of work done. What do you think?
Again, take it easy on me because I'm still a work in progress and it terrifies me to share my images, but do let me know if I have the potential to pass. I just don't feel like I'm there yet, but other people are telling me that I pass.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3714/12877318943_1d6fc7a3bf.jpg) (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7353/12877658704_cb32e5229d.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7296/12877338443_3a11d40a1a.jpg)
glad you're finally getting over your fears
Quote from: 930310 on March 02, 2014, 02:04:40 AM
So this is shopped then? Otherwise I'd say that judging by the picture you pass.
Actually passing is nearly meaningless to me. In business meetings, I can not hide my real name and identity, but I wear skirt, high heels and lipstick.
In the street, nearly all of the people who once watched my back try to check my face by turning back their head to me several times. A few of them even chased me for more than an hour. My height alone stands me out, whether it is in northern Europe or in Southeast Asia. In Seoul, I can see some tall and beautiful foreign ladies, and they also study me.
Some drunken Korean women in the bar try to speak to me, shouting like "I wish to touch your legs!" Age women tend to grasp my hands or arms, soliciting something or asking the direction.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3727%2F12864016293_2aeb0ef92e_c.jpg&hash=2807ca32689833414cec836fb2cbb80d05fdd079) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3772%2F12715754414_a5f878ae53_c.jpg&hash=38bf587e057be9b31915a64216bca1bfa0a95fbc)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2867%2F12883915793_9fbac174ac_c.jpg&hash=cda95f022bcfdc90d6070b75d06cdcd51d53fa03)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3724%2F12884237774_9a563314b6_c.jpg&hash=4741e98c7f559939141e66c958342bc8b1ff366a)
The final one is with my graduate students yesterday night.
baerbie~~
Quote from: barbie on March 02, 2014, 11:11:24 AM
learningtolive,
I think a merit is that you have a fair face. But the fair face can reveal any trace of grey beard area. Also clothes are important, and you may need a nice feminine top. Wearing some eyeliner and mascara would be great.
barbie~~
I think she's a little young to have to worry about gray beard hairs, if that's what you meant. Your correct though a little mascara, eyeliner, some foundation and a nice blouse/feminine clothes, will really set her off. ;)
Quote from: barbie on March 02, 2014, 11:11:24 AM
learningtolive,
I think a merit is that you have a fair face. But the fair face can reveal any trace of grey beard area. Also clothes are important, and you may need a nice feminine top. Wearing some eyeliner and mascara would be great.
barbie~~
Thanks. I'm in the process of doing laser every 6 weeks and it's working, but I guess I need more sessions before it's perfect. Also, I didn't shave before those pictures. I kind of woke up and snapped away with my camera, lol. Yeah, makeup and the proper attire is important, but I feel like I want my core presentation to pass. Like achieve male fail so to speak. That's why I want to know what people think of my "boy mode". It's great to know others see me as passing even like this, but I still can't see it for myself. I'm having a tough time with it.
Omg Learnng you are adorable! So cute and so there. I feel you pass now. Seriously keep up whatever you are doing because good things are happening :)
Barbie you are meticulous and beautifully stylish. I love you with your hair up, that's hard to pull off (at least for me.) So pretty.
Quote from: barbie on March 02, 2014, 11:53:32 AM
Actually passing is nearly meaningless to me. In business meetings, I can not hide my real name and identity, but I wear skirt, high heels and lipstick.
In the street, nearly all of the people who once watched my back try to check my face by turning back their head to me several times. A few of them even chased me for more than an hour. My height alone stands me out, whether it is in northern Europe or in Southeast Asia. In Seoul, I can see some tall and beautiful foreign ladies, and they also study me.
Some drunken Korean women in the bar try to speak to me, shouting like "I wish to touch your legs!" Age women tend to grasp my hands or arms, soliciting something or asking the direction.
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The final one is with my graduate students yesterday night.
baerbie~~
I can't believe how anyone could read you as male. You look female in your pictures.
Quote from: barbie on March 02, 2014, 11:53:32 AM
Actually passing is nearly meaningless to me. In business meetings, I can not hide my real name and identity, but I wear skirt, high heels and lipstick.
In the street, nearly all of the people who once watched my back try to check my face by turning back their head to me several times. A few of them even chased me for more than an hour. My height alone stands me out, whether it is in northern Europe or in Southeast Asia. In Seoul, I can see some tall and beautiful foreign ladies, and they also study me.
Some drunken Korean women in the bar try to speak to me, shouting like "I wish to touch your legs!" Age women tend to grasp my hands or arms, soliciting something or asking the direction.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3727%2F12864016293_2aeb0ef92e_c.jpg&hash=2807ca32689833414cec836fb2cbb80d05fdd079) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3772%2F12715754414_a5f878ae53_c.jpg&hash=38bf587e057be9b31915a64216bca1bfa0a95fbc)
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The final one is with my graduate students yesterday night.
baerbie~~
I like the way you dress
How do we post images in this thread? I have a smugmug account, but don't have the money to sign the contract to keep it running. What sites are you all using to host your images? I would just like a place where I can post my progress photos, with privacy.
How envious am I of Barbie for having those long legs and pretty face, and not being afraid to be who she is? Really envious :D One of these days it's not going to matter to me, either.
I use photobucket for hosting.
Here are four pictures of me, boy mode. Once I have begun to acquire some girly things I will take pictures of me in girl mode.
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If anyone wants to go crazy with photoshop (changing anything that HRT could affect, adding a wig, etc.) please do do. Just keep it realistic, and no, I don't need a promotional photo for the Barnum & Bailey Circus. ;D
Please note that I am hearing impaired and I have small ears....
Quote from: learningtolive on March 02, 2014, 07:16:08 AM
I felt a little silly this morning, so I took so pictures. I'm not wearing any makeup, look a mess, and still am in boy clothes, but I sort of felt cute. Guess, I'm growing some confidence. However, I still don't feel like I come close to passing and need a lot of work done. What do you think?
Again, take it easy on me because I'm still a work in progress and it terrifies me to share my images, but do let me know if I have the potential to pass. I just don't feel like I'm there yet, but other people are telling me that I pass.
Finally a face! You have beautiful eyes and are very pretty <3
Quote from: Jen on March 02, 2014, 06:41:30 PM
Finally a face! You have beautiful eyes and are very pretty <3
I agree wholeheartedly. After all of the self-depricating comments, I was expecting her to be "unpassable". Instead, she's absolutely gorgeous.
Quote from: barbie on March 02, 2014, 01:51:53 AM
You have lovely lips and eyes.
You seem to pass at least when you are drunken :D
barbie~~
Lol if i could pass when drunk, Id be drunk 24/7
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Heyy all, I'm new here- really been down on myself recently so please go easy on me..
You are beautiful, Audrey! You got nothing to worry about. Definitely pass. I'm jelly!
Quote from: Audreyish on March 02, 2014, 07:05:55 PM
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Heyy all, I'm new here- really been down on myself recently so please go easy on me..
You look beautiful! Don't be down on yourself because you pass very well.
Quote from: Mr Hockey on March 02, 2014, 07:11:25 PM
You look beautiful! Don't be down on yourself because you pass very well.
She just wanted to show off and get some compliments. Nothing wrong with that. I'd be posting pictures all over the place if I passed that well! ;)
Quote from: FilaFord on March 02, 2014, 07:15:47 PM
She just wanted to show off and get some compliments. Nothing wrong with that. I'd be posting pictures all over the place if I passed that well! ;)
I really wish that were true =/
Quote from: Audreyish on March 02, 2014, 07:18:53 PM
I really wish that were true =/
Well I hope you feel better soon. You definitely shouldn't have any problems passing! I'd definitely like to see a smile on that pretty face. :)
Quote from: Audreyish on March 02, 2014, 07:05:55 PM
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Heyy all, I'm new here- really been down on myself recently so please go easy on me..
Audrey your just gorgeous I'm so jealous. No need to feel down smile and enjoy your beauty.
Could someone photoshop my picture I posted earlier to give me longer hair? As well as whats likely to change because of HRT?
Quote from: Audreyish on March 02, 2014, 07:05:55 PM
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Heyy all, I'm new here- really been down on myself recently so please go easy on me..
Oh hey you foxy lady, you have nothing to worry about!
Quote from: Audreyish on March 02, 2014, 07:05:55 PM
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Heyy all, I'm new here- really been down on myself recently so please go easy on me..
Are you sure your not a genetic girl? Because you definitely pass.
Quote from: thevaliantx on March 02, 2014, 06:05:22 PM
Here are four pictures of me, boy mode. Once I have begun to acquire some girly things I will take pictures of me in girl mode.
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If anyone wants to go crazy with photoshop (changing anything that HRT could affect, adding a wig, etc.) please do do. Just keep it realistic, and no, I don't need a promotional photo for the Barnum & Bailey Circus. ;D
Please note that I am hearing impaired and I have small ears....
I hope you have a great and safe journey! :)
Obviously you aren't passing in your pictures, but give it time and I have great confidence that you will pass!
Thanks. I know I'm a little older this time around, but if it's anything like the last time the HRT is going to change things real fast for me. I did try on some women's pants tonight at WalMart, and some cute shirts, but it's simply too early to think about trying to wear that stuff out in public. I did end up getting a pair of guy's boot-cut jeans that fig snugly around my legs and butt, and a purple sweater. It's the best I can do for the moment. AS SOON AS I can get a wig that looks good on me and WILL STAY IN PLACE that's going to accelerate things for me. If I had long hair now I wouldn't be able to stop myself from throwing on makeup and heading out. Back when I last transitioned, I couldn't believe just how much I looked like my late mother (she died when I was five).
Quote from: 930310 on March 02, 2014, 02:16:08 PM
I can't believe how anyone could read you as male. You look female in your pictures.
Until they hear my voice. But, in few cases, they still recognize me as a woman even after hearing my voice.
Some people ask whether I am a kind of intersex.
barbie~~
Quote from: oh hai! on March 02, 2014, 01:37:13 PM
Barbie you are meticulous and beautifully stylish. I love you with your hair up, that's hard to pull off (at least for me.) So pretty.
Thanks! Oh Hai. Yes. One lady commented my hair up accentuates my femininity. Today I went to a hair salon to prepare for longer hair. At this time, I will not use hair straightener, which had damaged my hairs. Natural hair is the best, IMHO.
barbie~~
Hey all.
So it's been weeks since I took any photos...I had a very traumatic experience which led me to attempt suicide :(
I was a complete wreck for a couple weeks and couldn't even look in a single mirror for the whole time...I had to sit in a dark, reflection-less room on medication for a whole week before I could begin the healing process :(
But I am on the mend now and glad to be getting back to the transition and the trans community again!
To celebrate I took a bunch more photos for my own timeline/passing attempts, not sure how much I have changed though, I just find that I cannot tell how masculine or feminine I am when I look in the mirror now :S
So I've been on hormones for three months now. The next big steps on my list are getting new girl glasses this week, and getting my eyebrows done shortly to be more feminine, since these seem to be the most common things people comment on...well, onward and upwards as they say.
Can anybody say "basic!"
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One thing I have started to notice is the softening of my facial features, by jawline is much less sharp now
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My favorite piece of girl clothes is my comfy hoody
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Last time I posted people said that it looked like I have no adam's apple, so I took a photo to prove that it does exist!
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Full body shot...I get allot more shy when taking these photos, I hate my body and feel like have a long way to go before I could even remotely pass :(
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Another hoody shot...if I could wear it all the time I would xD
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And finally, my camera went off when I wasn't actually posing for once, and I really liked the result. I think I almost look...cute! D: Just goes to show sometimes the natural photos are the best
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So, what's the opinions? How am I doing? ^^;
You really look great , so beautiful and feminine . And your body - i really don't know what you hate about it , i only see a sexy cis girl there :D
BTW i love the hoody shots , i like wearing them myself .
Quote from: Danniella on March 03, 2014, 09:22:34 AM
Full body shot...I get allot more shy when taking these photos, I hate my body and feel like have a long way to go before I could even remotely pass :(
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So, what's the opinions? How am I doing? ^^;
You're doing well Danniella, and what's to hate about your body? It looks pretty darned good to me girl! :icon_bunch:
Some here could only wish to look as good as you do already.
Quote from: Claudia_FF on March 03, 2014, 09:29:39 AM
You really look great , so beautiful and feminine . And your body - i really don't know what you hate about it , i only see a sexy cis girl there :D
BTW i love the hoody shots , i like wearing them myself .
Quote from: Shantel on March 03, 2014, 09:41:46 AM
You're doing well Danniella, and what's to hate about your body? It looks pretty darned good to me girl! :icon_bunch:
Some here could only wish to look as good as you do already.
Thanks to both of you ^^#
I just always find that whenever I look in the mirror all I can see are my masculine traits and I can't get over them :S
It's like, my brain just gets so confused when I look in the mirror I always have a bad reaction :(
Quote from: Danniella on March 03, 2014, 09:46:16 AM
Thanks to both of you ^^#
I just always find that whenever I look in the mirror all I can see are my masculine traits and I can't get over them :S
It's like, my brain just gets so confused when I look in the mirror I always have a bad reaction :(
Oh honey, that's such a common problem that we all have, we don't see ourselves as others do. I think something clicks in the visual part of our brains that sees us as our old selves and it sometimes takes years to change that. The only thing I would change about you that would compromise passibility would be the hair color, it's so unnatural as to draw immediate attention to yourself and we want to blend. Other than that you are beautiful already, love your long legs and nice frame, you're looking great honey!
Quote from: Shantel on March 03, 2014, 09:53:18 AM
Oh honey, that's such a common problem that we all have, we don't see ourselves as others do. I think something clicks in the visual part of our brains that sees us as our old selves and it sometimes takes years to change that. The only thing I would change about you that would compromise passibility would be the hair color, it's so unnatural as to draw immediate attention to yourself and we want to blend. Other than that you are beautiful already, love your long legs and nice frame, you're looking great honey!
I figured it must be a fairly common thing...I guess I won't really truly know how well I pass until I am spending more time out and about in public, and interacting with people who don't know I'm trans :S
The hair colour is something I go back and forth on all the time, it's just a fairly cheap party wig at the moment while I grow my own hair (although if my natural hair grows much longer I don't be able to wear a wig any more). I think you are right in that it is too vivid a red, it draws a bit too much attention, especially in bright lighting, but I absolutely love red hair! :D So I will probably end up dying my natural hair to be something similar...but a shade or two darker just so that it is less..."wow!"
Your body looks amazing! Don't know why you'd hate anything about it. Hopefully my arms can look that slender in a few months. I was never very muscular but my shoulders and upper arms look so manly :(
Agree about the hair color. That's the only think that throws me off a bit. You are cute though that's for sure!
Quote from: Jen on March 02, 2014, 06:41:30 PM
Finally a face! You have beautiful eyes and are very pretty <3
Quote from: G:W:Y:N:N:E on March 02, 2014, 06:43:00 PM
I agree wholeheartedly. After all of the self-depricating comments, I was expecting her to be "unpassable". Instead, she's absolutely gorgeous.
Thanks guys (and to everyone else that commented)! I'm still trying to figure out why everyone feels this way about me because I really do feel unpassable and ugly. I guess it's hard for us to see the good in ourselves. Though I do have to admit everyone telling me that I pass and look good is making me feel very nice!
Okay...here goes...just over five months HRT. I know I have a lot of work to go yet (especially the hair and I am not wearing any make up) but this is the first picture I've taken that I can really see Jane emerging so I wanted to post :).
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Jane :)
I see a female profile there, Jane. No, you don't pass, you knew that already, but I am able to see the real you underneath :)
Quote from: JaneNicole2013 on March 03, 2014, 05:45:20 PM
Okay...here goes...just over five months HRT. I know I have a lot of work to go yet (especially the hair and I am not wearing any make up) but this is the first picture I've taken that I can really see Jane emerging so I wanted to post :).
You're going to look like your avatar :)
You are all so inspiring :)
Ps @Danniella I spotted Skyrim/elder scrolls in the background :D epic games ftw!
Quote from: G:W:Y:N:N:E on March 03, 2014, 06:39:44 PM
You're going to look like your avatar :)
I was thinking the same thing.
Quote from: thevaliantx on March 03, 2014, 07:44:04 PM
I was thinking the same thing.
Thanks! That's what I was going for when I made that avatar :-)
Quote from: Sarah leah on March 03, 2014, 07:35:45 PM
You are all so inspiring :)
Ps @Danniella I spotted Skyrim/elder scrolls in the background :D epic games ftw!
Why thank you, you clearly have impeccable taste ^^
Nobody ever comments on the Bioshock Infinite necklace though, much more obscure I guess xD
@learningtolive, I don't know if you chose your avatar as being close to how you look, but like Shan said, I feel you look exactly like I envisioned you to be. I love cute & that is Beautifully you. Youth deals a lovely complexion. You say you are having facial hair removal treatment (you don't look like you have a heavy or dark beard) but without make up you barely notice anything. Your hair appears a pixie cute nice length. Are you going to grow your hair long? Like your lips and wonderful smile. Hormones are creating a really femme face. I think you pass 100% femme adorable.
Hugs
Jamie
Quote from: badgrrl on February 26, 2014, 07:22:12 PM
Hello gals! I'm Mel and this is my first post in this forum! Please tell me what you think with complete honesty. I'm not on hormones, and I should probably get my eyebrows done. Any tips or tricks would be greatly appreciated! :P
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For being pre-HRT you are well on your way!! You have beautiful skin tone and a great bone structure. Remember your eyebrows are the focal point of your face, so maintenance is key! You look GREAT!!
SOrry for being back here so soon, its just this site is still useful for certain questions like hormones and stuff. I promise I wont post anywhere else or start any trouble I just seriously need opinions on myself:
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Ive started seeing guys again and so far my experiences have been pretty good, but I dunno. I guess cuz my tits aren't bad and my voice is extremely female its helping, but my hair is really starting to bug me and I despiiise extensions, its just uugh, im feeling in a weird funk lately
be BRUTALLY honest how I look with this dorky hair
Υοu re so fluffy im gonna die!
hello,
i am 26 yers old ,all ready 8 months on HRT (sprio + estrofem)
and full time even that i don't pass .
what you think could i pass ?
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sorry for bad english
My latest photos (not my best ones. They were taken in a rush haha): (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F11jna09.jpg&hash=04734646d7ebacac38d3ca4e15a1290c6c445061) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F33vnh5j.jpg&hash=b3b1eb89ea48d18b0bcfc0f10e90d0f47e468150)
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 05, 2014, 02:12:07 AM
SOrry for being back here so soon, its just this site is still useful for certain questions like hormones and stuff. I promise I wont post anywhere else or start any trouble I just seriously need opinions on myself:
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be BRUTALLY honest how I look with this dorky hair
No worries hun, I'm sure your still welcome here. Everyone has their "moment" :)
If you wore some lip gloss then I say you look great, your eyes are well done. I wouldn't expect anything if I saw you walking by because your body is great and your face is great!
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 05, 2014, 02:12:07 AM
SOrry for being back here so soon, its just this site is still useful for certain questions like hormones and stuff. I promise I wont post anywhere else or start any trouble I just seriously need opinions on myself:
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Ive started seeing guys again and so far my experiences have been pretty good, but I dunno. I guess cuz my tits aren't bad and my voice is extremely female its helping, but my hair is really starting to bug me and I despiiise extensions, its just uugh, im feeling in a weird funk lately
be BRUTALLY honest how I look with this dorky hair
My first comment is that you need to be here sweet cakes and that you have been sorely missed. Next is that you have not ever caused any problems here and should feel free to post all you want because we look forward to it. Finally there is nothing dorky about your looks, you are a darling as always and your hair is coming right along nicely.
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 05, 2014, 02:12:07 AM
SOrry for being back here so soon, its just this site is still useful for certain questions like hormones and stuff. I promise I wont post anywhere else or start any trouble I just seriously need opinions on myself:
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Ive started seeing guys again and so far my experiences have been pretty good, but I dunno. I guess cuz my tits aren't bad and my voice is extremely female its helping, but my hair is really starting to bug me and I despiiise extensions, its just uugh, im feeling in a weird funk lately
be BRUTALLY honest how I look with this dorky hair
sorry, I need to say this, but we need a top to bottom full exposure picture in a nice dress and heels to make the proper assessment .
Quote from: stephaniec on March 05, 2014, 11:12:18 AM
sorry, I need to say this, but we need a top to bottom full exposure picture in a nice dress and heels to make the proper assessment .
I second this!
Quote from: Natallie553 on March 05, 2014, 11:14:42 AM
I second this!
Absolutely. The more pictures the better! Show off that bod lol
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 05, 2014, 02:12:07 AM
SOrry for being back here so soon, its just this site is still useful for certain questions like hormones and stuff. I promise I wont post anywhere else or start any trouble I just seriously need opinions on myself:
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Very pretty :)
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 05, 2014, 02:12:07 AM
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...be BRUTALLY honest how I look with this dorky hair
Well being BRUTALLY honest, I have to say that you are gorgeous and that your hair isn't dorky
at all.
You kind of remind me of Michelle Pfeiffer back when she was in Ladyhawke:
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This is a very good thing ;)
@ jussmoi4nao, Alaia beat me too it, and found a pic too, I was thinking the same thing. Especially your lips appear to be identical. I have always liked Michelle Pfeiffer's beauty!
Jamie
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 05, 2014, 02:12:07 AM
SOrry for being back here so soon, its just this site is still useful for certain questions like hormones and stuff. I promise I wont post anywhere else or start any trouble I just seriously need opinions on myself:
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Ive started seeing guys again and so far my experiences have been pretty good, but I dunno. I guess cuz my tits aren't bad and my voice is extremely female its helping, but my hair is really starting to bug me and I despiiise extensions, its just uugh, im feeling in a weird funk lately
be BRUTALLY honest how I look with this dorky hair
You pass well. The hairstyle you have looks good on you.
Quote from: Sakushi on March 05, 2014, 04:19:30 AM
hello,
i am 26 yers old ,all ready 8 months on HRT (sprio + estrofem)
and full time even that i don't pass .
what you think could i pass ?
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sorry for bad english
Hi, I would say that there are some things that you need to work on, mainly eyebrows. Otherwise I'd say that you are well on your way to passing as female! :)
Quote from: Allyson on March 05, 2014, 10:22:29 AM
My latest photos (not my best ones. They were taken in a rush haha): (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F11jna09.jpg&hash=04734646d7ebacac38d3ca4e15a1290c6c445061) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F33vnh5j.jpg&hash=b3b1eb89ea48d18b0bcfc0f10e90d0f47e468150)
There are some things to work on, if I'm not mistaken you have bit of beard shadow in your picture. Otherwise it looks good!
Thankss for the responses guys. Michelle Pfeiffer I am not, but you're sweet to say that. I reaally can't wait till my hair grows out
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Could I pass?
barbie~~
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 05, 2014, 03:37:47 PM
Thankss for the responses guys. Michelle Pfeiffer I am not, but you're sweet to say that. I reaally can't wait till my hair grows out
I love your username. It's a great way of expressing your current situation and at the same time make others smile whilst reading it.
Quote from: barbie on March 05, 2014, 03:40:09 PM
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Could I pass?
barbie~~
As I've said many times Barbie: Yes you can and yes you are passing!
Don't be so unsure about yourself, you look great and you are a wonderful person. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise!!
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 05, 2014, 02:12:07 AM
SOrry for being back here so soon, its just this site is still useful for certain questions like hormones and stuff. I promise I wont post anywhere else or start any trouble I just seriously need opinions on myself:
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Ive started seeing guys again and so far my experiences have been pretty good, but I dunno. I guess cuz my tits aren't bad and my voice is extremely female its helping, but my hair is really starting to bug me and I despiiise extensions, its just uugh, im feeling in a weird funk lately
be BRUTALLY honest how I look with this dorky hair
If I only look half as good as you I'd be extreemly happy. You look great hon. And your hair's fine. If you want it longer, I mean if that's your worry just let it grow. However you've got great facial structure, you have a nice thick head of hair and the style frames your face real nice. I think you look super. And as far as being welcome, I know I speak for my sisters here when I say I'm sure your welcome here anytime, and we'd like to hear more of your posts! ;)
Quote from: barbie on March 05, 2014, 03:40:09 PM
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Could I pass?
barbie~~
Hey Barbie what's up with the scarf covering your face? I've been reading some of your posts and just want to say, -get out of that slump girl and stop worrying! You look gorgeous as always. And that's a fact girl not just an opinion! ;)
Quote from: Allyda on March 05, 2014, 03:56:25 PM
Hey Barbie what's up with the scarf covering your face?
The left is for protecting my face from the sun (ultraviolet).
The right is for protecting from storms of fine dusts originating from Central Asia and China.
Mostly I do not pass, because of my low voice, and actually I do not care.
barbie~~
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 05, 2014, 02:12:07 AM
SOrry for being back here so soon, its just this site is still useful for certain questions like hormones and stuff. I promise I wont post anywhere else or start any trouble I just seriously need opinions on myself:
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Ive started seeing guys again and so far my experiences have been pretty good, but I dunno. I guess cuz my tits aren't bad and my voice is extremely female its helping, but my hair is really starting to bug me and I despiiise extensions, its just uugh, im feeling in a weird funk lately
be BRUTALLY honest how I look with this dorky hair
Please don't shy away from the site. No one wants you to stay away.
I think your hair is growing in good and looks fem. Are you planning on growing it out? Believe me, I understand that the awkward growing in stage can be frustrating, but it doesn't last forever and it looks fine on you. Seriously, you pass in terms of appearance and shouldn't worry.
Quote from: barbie on March 05, 2014, 04:03:24 PM
The left is for protecting my face from the sun (ultraviolet).
The right is for protecting from storms of fine dusts originating from Central Asia and China.
Mostly I do not pass, because of my low voice, and actually I do not care.
barbie~~
Well we all have the voice problem and have to work on it. And I apologize I forgot where you live regarding the scarf. I was just trying to lighten things up a bit anyway. Also I think you pass, so do many of our sisters here.
Honestly when I'm at a checkout counter and am being addressed properly with the correct pronouns, etc., I dread having to speak. But sometimes it's unavoidable, then I find out I was worried for nothing. We are out own worse critic's girl. I know some models here in the US who'd kill to have that bod of yours. ;) :)
I know some are going to disagree with me on the voice issue, but if you pass enough otherwise -- okay .... if you are feminine enough otherwise .... -- than the voice will be forgiven. Afterall, many women develop deep, froggy voices after having smoked for years. So you could always help out the tobacco farmers by buying a pack of cigarettes (but not smoke them!) if that helps to ease your worries in the store.
Quote from: thevaliantx on March 05, 2014, 04:56:03 PM
I know some are going to disagree with me on the voice issue, but if you pass enough otherwise -- okay .... if you are feminine enough otherwise .... -- than the voice will be forgiven. Afterall, many women develop deep, froggy voices after having smoked for years. So you could always help out the tobacco farmers by buying a pack of cigarettes (but not smoke them!) if that helps to ease your worries in the store.
This is a very interesting point. Because I myself personally think my voice is horrible, yet I've never had anyone change their perception of my being female after I've spoken. This happened in Wal-Mart just yesterday. A very cute 20 something girl was behind the counter. She addressed me as Ms, Mam, etc., then I had to speak to help her get my steamvac back in my cart and I was sure I was made, but instead she politely asked me if I'd gotten all my bags, and if I needed help outside still with Ms., and Mam, etc. When we speak our voice sounds very different to us than it does to others. ;)
Quote from: thevaliantx on March 05, 2014, 04:56:03 PM
I know some are going to disagree with me on the voice issue, but if you pass enough otherwise -- okay .... if you are feminine enough otherwise .... -- than the voice will be forgiven. Afterall, many women develop deep, froggy voices after having smoked for years. So you could always help out the tobacco farmers by buying a pack of cigarettes (but not smoke them!) if that helps to ease your worries in the store.
I hope you're right about this. My voice is my biggest concern. Unfortunately I don't have a cigarette smoker's completion. Either way, I'm still working on the voice :-)
I have no room to talk, but if you are comfortable with you, then anyone reasonable will accept you. Much easier said than done, I know, but it is reality.
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Your simply gorgeous honey no need to worry xx
Quote from: Allyda on March 05, 2014, 04:35:07 PM
Honestly when I'm at a checkout counter and am being addressed properly with the correct pronouns, etc., I dread having to speak. But sometimes it's unavoidable, then I find out I was worried for nothing. We are out own worse critic's girl. I know some models here in the US who'd kill to have that bod of yours. ;) :)
Thanks for compliments!
Yes. When I speak in broken English, some cashiers still call me Ma'am or Lady even after hearing my low voice.
When speaking in Korean, my native language, it is different. A stereotype here is that elegant and beautiful women should speak in Seoul dialect (standard Korean dialect). My dialect and strong accent is originated from my birth place, a remote island located in the south. My accent is very strong even among men here. Women tend to expect that I would sing very well, but the truth is the opposite. I hate going to karaoke.
Another stereotype is that sexy women should drink expensive, imported wine, whereas red-neck-like men here drink very cheap, Korean traditional rice wine. Men tend to think I will like wine, but I drink Korean traditional rice wine nearly everyday.
The third stereotype is that women do not smoke in the street, but I do.
These three things disappoint my admirers severely.
barbie~~
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 05, 2014, 02:12:07 AM
SOrry for being back here so soon, its just this site is still useful for certain questions like hormones and stuff. I promise I wont post anywhere else or start any trouble I just seriously need opinions on myself:
Ive started seeing guys again and so far my experiences have been pretty good, but I dunno. I guess cuz my tits aren't bad and my voice is extremely female its helping, but my hair is really starting to bug me and I despiiise extensions, its just uugh, im feeling in a weird funk lately
be BRUTALLY honest how I look with this dorky hair
You look like a soprano singer. I am sure you sing very well!
barbie~~
Quote from: FalsePrincess on February 16, 2014, 11:57:09 AM
eeeer
Im 1.77 and when I go to convert it online it says 5.8 ...
so something must be wrong here...
Divide your height in centimetres by 2.54 to get your height in inches.
So 177 cm / 2.54 = 69.68" = 5' 9.7"
Quote from: debpossible on March 06, 2014, 06:08:57 AM
Divide your height in centimetres by 2.54 to get your height in inches.
So 177 cm / 2.54 = 69.68" = 5' 9.7"
This has already been answered by others in this thread.
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 05, 2014, 02:12:07 AM
SOrry for being back here so soon, its just this site is still useful for certain questions like hormones and stuff. I promise I wont post anywhere else or start any trouble I just seriously need opinions on myself:
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Ive started seeing guys again and so far my experiences have been pretty good, but I dunno. I guess cuz my tits aren't bad and my voice is extremely female its helping, but my hair is really starting to bug me and I despiiise extensions, its just uugh, im feeling in a weird funk lately
be BRUTALLY honest how I look with this dorky hair
How long have you been on HRT? And Im completley jealous of you, you look amazing.
You can't always go around with pouty lips, or duck lips. Try telling that to the Lohan chick. The one thing that I would love to see HRT do for you is to add some fat, appropriately, to different areas of your face. It appears you have not been on HRT for long, if at all, not sure if you talked about that. But I do wonder, though, if you are just really thin, in which case I urge you to watch your nutrition. It is a fine line, I know, especially for trans women.
Quote from: thevaliantx on March 06, 2014, 02:04:18 PM
You can't always go around with pouty lips, or duck lips. Try telling that to the Lohan chick. The one thing that I would love to see HRT do for you is to add some fat, appropriately, to different areas of your face. It appears you have not been on HRT for long, if at all, not sure if you talked about that. But I do wonder, though, if you are just really thin, in which case I urge you to watch your nutrition. It is a fine line, I know, especially for trans women.
Next time it would be good to quote or mention the person you are referring too.
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 05, 2014, 02:12:07 AM
SOrry for being back here so soon, its just this site is still useful for certain questions like hormones and stuff. I promise I wont post anywhere else or start any trouble I just seriously need opinions on myself:
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Ive started seeing guys again and so far my experiences have been pretty good, but I dunno. I guess cuz my tits aren't bad and my voice is extremely female its helping, but my hair is really starting to bug me and I despiiise extensions, its just uugh, im feeling in a weird funk lately
be BRUTALLY honest how I look with this dorky hair
You look beautiful, I wouldn't be able to tell you weren't born female if I met you somewhere.
@Tic,
Thaanks. I've been on hormones consistently for 4 months. I was on for a bit before but quit about 2 months before starting again.
@Valiant,
You talkin to me? Im pretty sure you are..? Anyway its funny cuz people always say that about my photos, but its just how my lips naturally go :o the only one I'm doing a "duckface" in is the last one cuz someone said to send a silly photo. The second one is a very sliiight pout. The first is just natural, and a very neutral face. One of the first thing guys say when we meet is how much they love my lips haha. But yeah for better or worse I would say these photos accurately represent me.
Also, yes, I'm around 5'11 and generally weigh in in the low 130s these days. Anorexia is a struggle I deal with.
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 05, 2014, 02:12:07 AM
SOrry for being back here so soon, its just this site is still useful for certain questions like hormones and stuff. I promise I wont post anywhere else or start any trouble I just seriously need opinions on myself:
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Ive started seeing guys again and so far my experiences have been pretty good, but I dunno. I guess cuz my tits aren't bad and my voice is extremely female its helping, but my hair is really starting to bug me and I despiiise extensions, its just uugh, im feeling in a weird funk lately
be BRUTALLY honest how I look with this dorky hair
You want
"BRUTAL"?? Okay, here comes brutal ...
You are a beautiful young woman who just needs a little more confidence in herself. :D
Luv ya hon.
Quote from: Sakushi on March 05, 2014, 04:19:30 AM
hello,
i am 26 yers old ,all ready 8 months on HRT (sprio + estrofem)
and full time even that i don't pass .
what you think could i pass ?
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sorry for bad english
Your English is fine. I think some of the standard advice for those early in MtF transition. Grow you hair out. Thin and arch your eyebrows.
Keep in mind, 8 months HRT really is just starting. Your body will continue to feminize and fill out.
Quote from: Allyson on March 05, 2014, 10:22:29 AM
My latest photos (not my best ones. They were taken in a rush haha):
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First, I love your hair color. I go gaga over gingers. ::)
Second, why not post your best presentation? How far along are you into your transition?
Quote from: Jamie D on March 06, 2014, 03:06:34 PM
First, I love your hair color. I go gaga over gingers. ::)
Second, why not post your best presentation? How far along are you into your transition?
I would have to agree with Jamie here. None of your pictures do you justice.
Quote from: thevaliantx on March 06, 2014, 04:26:42 PM
I am pretty sure I was not talking to you. In fact, I wasn't, lol. I was talking to just justmoi. One of the first markers of a woman is that she thinks it's all about her ;)
Oh shus...you're just saying that to make me feel better ;)
...
Wait a second...
I'm so confused..am I not "justmoi"? Haha you're confusing me. Sorry..? I'm so confused...xD
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 06, 2014, 07:20:09 PM
I'm so confused..am I not "justmoi"? Haha you're confusing me. Sorry..? I'm so confused...xD
what be goin on here ??? Confusion all around :o
Haha, yeah, I'm still really, really confused, is there something I'm missing out onn oor?
Now I'm confused, and that's hard to do, lol! :laugh:
I'm dazed and confused.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pau8Zf7srlU
This conversations pretty trippy :o
Quote from: Jamie D on March 06, 2014, 10:04:20 PM
I'm dazed and confused.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pau8Zf7srlU
Bout time someone threw the Zep into the forums. Thank you so much :)
Dazed and Confused -Led Zepplin from the good old days, -Excellent choice for a song!! :) :)
I thought I would give some input for pictures posted of recent, remember it's just MY opinion:
Sakushi: in your three pictures, I like the first one the best. It paints you as a tomboy, and I'm not sure if you were aiming for that if that's just where you are in your transition. The hair looks like it's thinning on top. HRT can stop the rate of hair loss greatly, and I think that if all other issues in feminization were resolved, you would make an excellent candidate for scalp reduction surgery. Your second picture is androgynous, at best, at worst you look somewhat female in the face, and the rest of you looks like a very young male. I know that's not what you intended, but your clothes in that picture aren't very feminine. In the third picture, meh. Delete it. Seriously. Please don't take this the wrong way, but my first reaction when seeing that picture was "does she live in Scotland?". That skirt is WAY too shot short for you, and right now your legs are too muscular looking (or not toned enough?) for it. Your hair is pulled back in that picture to reveal a male pattern hairline. The shoes look like men's dress shoes. Again, I mean no harm in writing this, I just think we all need a little input, but I also realize that most of us do not have unlimited funding to buy girly things, and I also realize that the culture where you live may not at all be like that of the culture I live in. I believe that we should spend most of our energy pushing our strengths, or building around them, and giving the finger to our weaknesses. If you build off that first picture, you're going to be one very happy girl.
Allyson: STOP HIDING behind thick clothes. Emerge! (no, I'm not a Gentoo Linux fan, lol) I don't like those glasses, but I'm not sure why. I've always felt that "nerdy" glasses are too in-your-face, and I'm not sure many would equate intelligence with physical beauty. I'd work on shaping those eyebrows, and it appears you have a five o'clock shadow going in those pictures. Maybe your foundation was too dark (it has a red or orange hue to it), maybe it's because of the hair. I feel like once the fat in your face has been redistributed some more (if you're on HRT) or that you lose some, it will dramatically improve things. Despite my thinking that you're shy, I still like your hair and your scarf in the first picture.
Barbie: you have legs to die for, but I'm concerned about the way you're standing in the second picture. Do you have problems walking? It appears there is too much room in those boots. Even your first picture shows your ankles bowing out. Just concerned, that's all. I imagine you do walk very gracefully, with that red coat appearing to float in mid-air at night. ;D
FilaFord, try this. Make a heart with your fingers. Now, place your thumbs over your chin, and the pointer fingers over your eyebrows. The area in between gives a better idea of what HRT (and FFS for the chin and brow bossing) will be able to do for you. There is a beautiful woman under there!
Quote from: FilaFord on March 06, 2014, 11:31:10 PM
New pics today - down 15 lbs from the last time I posted, only 35 more to go :D
Trying to find a "sexy angle" but failing:
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My eyebrows have practically no arch, or an inverted arch. I cannot for the life of me figure out what to do with them, but my doc said that HRT should help make them a little more manageable... hopefully! Any suggestions?
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Here is the "be brutally honest" picture. Please tell me what you think HRT will help with. I think I am going to shell out some money for Virtual FFS as I think I am going to need a few things done before I will be happy with my look. And I'm still a make-up novice so I know I have a lot of work to do in that department as well!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgqpzF4R.jpg&hash=d20f16b70e9ee0e691c893d94c06cc131f2756fc)
(I know I'm not passable at this point, so you don't have to go easy on me at all)
Hi, you look great by the way!
Concerning your eyebrows I think the hairs are a little too long and it makes them look a bit more "bushy".
I think HRT will smooth out your chin, cheeks, and all the other usual stuff that comes with it. Good luck! :)
Quote from: FilaFord on March 06, 2014, 11:31:10 PM
Any suggestions?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6xtJPOi.jpg&hash=158114bbeac6cad546c9201f2723615b0e2dbe83)
Ugh, photoshop just sh!t the bed, so let's see if this explanation makes sense. See the top of your eyebrows, where the hair is thinner? Pluck that out. There's a natural line- in your case, actually, a bit of a trapezoid- that outlines where you should pluck in towards. I see what you're saying about the inverse arch. I would just go straight across the top to that farthest point on the left and pluck the loose hairs above that line. Then the same on the lower left, where you have that arch above your eye.
And plucking hair from the bottom is fairly feminizing- women's eyebrows have the tendency (or at least have the illusion) of being higher from the eyeball than a man's. Then just take care of the couple rogue hairs that are pointing towards the middle of your face, and I think your eyes will be complemented very nicely!
And for reference, this diagram is pretty good for determining an ideal length for your eyebrows:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud4.collegefashion.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F07%2Fbrow-diagram.jpg&hash=5ad37576b68a76f7fb14c271ff21419a98ccb3dd)
Hopefully some of this helps!
Quote from: thevaliantx on March 07, 2014, 12:12:16 AM
I thought I would give some input for pictures posted of recent, remember it's just MY opinion:
In the third picture, meh. Delete it. Seriously. Please don't take this the wrong way, but my first reaction when seeing that picture was "does she live in Scotland?".
As somebody who DOES live in Scotland, I find it difficult to know what you are getting at here xD
Does living in Scotland instantly have negative connotations?
Or do we all just dress terribly :P
Quote from: Danniella on March 07, 2014, 07:08:00 AM
Or do we all just dress terribly :P
No, obviously, we don't all dress terribly. We're all a work in progress. :P
Look at the three pictures I wrote about. One of them is not like the others. It was meant as constructive criticism, and I don't feel the need to explain myself any further.
These sorts of threads are never going to suit everyone. ;)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGzQYiuS.jpg&hash=26b1b8caf16fcf26e43465b4c098d69cbee2673b)
Pre-Everything. Used makeup and wig app.
Quote from: Chic on March 07, 2014, 04:50:39 PM
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Pre-Everything. Used makeup and wig app.
Hi, by the things I can see in your picture you pass!
If you want to get any advice about your whole face it's best if we get to see more of you. :)
Quote from: 930310 on March 07, 2014, 04:52:43 PM
Hi, by the things I can see in your picture you pass!
If you want to get any advice about your whole face it's best if we get to see more of you. :)
Here's my Instagram~ http://Instagram.com/setsukaheel
Hey girls :) Ok, so I need some brutal honesty. I'm pre-everything and this is the first time I've tried dressing up like a girl, so I'm trying to get my makeup technique right at the moment and decide what kind of work I'm gonna need done. So any tips would be super appreciated :) Thanks! :)
also, I know te wigs a little messed up, it's a tad small and I haven't had it styled or anything yet.
Sectastic, you had me fooled. I was sitting here thinking "okay....so, just play with that hair and rub it in to those who aren't as fortunate to have a full head of hair!...". You have an awesome wig, obviously. ;) My only concern is that the hair appears to ride too high up on your head, seems like the hairline should be lower.
Other than that, it's all systems go for you. 8)
Oh, and pick up your clothes!!!
first of all tnx for feeedback
second yes i am kinda a tomboy , i do lots of sports and geeky stuff :P
and i really like jeans and t-shirt or short skirt and a t-shirt .
and i normally wear boots and stuff like that i think it looks good .. :p
and i think my legs are kinda sexy and sportive
and i don't like pop culture clothes or mainstream , i look stupid in them and it is not me .. hahahaha
Quote from: thevaliantx on March 07, 2014, 12:12:16 AM
I thought I would give some input for pictures posted of recent, remember it's just MY opinion:
Sakushi: in your three pictures, I like the first one the best. It paints you as a tomboy, and I'm not sure if you were aiming for that if that's just where you are in your transition. The hair looks like it's thinning on top. HRT can stop the rate of hair loss greatly, and I think that if all other issues in feminization were resolved, you would make an excellent candidate for scalp reduction surgery. Your second picture is androgynous, at best, at worst you look somewhat female in the face, and the rest of you looks like a very young male. I know that's not what you intended, but your clothes in that picture aren't very feminine. In the third picture, meh. Delete it. Seriously. Please don't take this the wrong way, but my first reaction when seeing that picture was "does she live in Scotland?". That skirt is WAY too shot short for you, and right now your legs are too muscular looking (or not toned enough?) for it. Your hair is pulled back in that picture to reveal a male pattern hairline. The shoes look like men's dress shoes. Again, I mean no harm in writing this, I just think we all need a little input, but I also realize that most of us do not have unlimited funding to buy girly things, and I also realize that the culture where you live may not at all be like that of the culture I live in. I believe that we should spend most of our energy pushing our strengths, or building around them, and giving the finger to our weaknesses. If you build off that first picture, you're going to be one very happy girl.
Allyson: STOP HIDING behind thick clothes. Emerge! (no, I'm not a Gentoo Linux fan, lol) I don't like those glasses, but I'm not sure why. I've always felt that "nerdy" glasses are too in-your-face, and I'm not sure many would equate intelligence with physical beauty. I'd work on shaping those eyebrows, and it appears you have a five o'clock shadow going in those pictures. Maybe your foundation was too dark (it has a red or orange hue to it), maybe it's because of the hair. I feel like once the fat in your face has been redistributed some more (if you're on HRT) or that you lose some, it will dramatically improve things. Despite my thinking that you're shy, I still like your hair and your scarf in the first picture.
Barbie: you have legs to die for, but I'm concerned about the way you're standing in the second picture. Do you have problems walking? It appears there is too much room in those boots. Even your first picture shows your ankles bowing out. Just concerned, that's all. I imagine you do walk very gracefully, with that red coat appearing to float in mid-air at night. ;D
Hello ^^
Yes, it is me again! Sorry, I feel I am always coming here to ask for opinions...but I feel so unsecure about my future and this is killing me! :-\
(I want very sincere opinions. Don't worry about hurting me, because I will not take critics to the personal side)
The thing is: I don't have money for a FFS right now and I don't think I will have for the next few years, so I will have to pass with what I have when the time comes. I am slowly preparing myself, training my voice and so on, and I really would like to try going out as a woman on a few months from now. ;)
But...here they come ("boy mode", no make-up or anything!):
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2467%2F225.jpg&hash=19f34e51efa0fce71b62b6570d8cacc433974154)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2467%2F227.jpg&hash=86db66890bd1e2a83dc8b7de5d459e372fd343f5)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2467%2F226.jpg&hash=0313466afb6670b2e3ddbc98c5f19582efa3b1c1)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2467%2F223.jpg&hash=f7a84548adaa04366404bec96fcd68621293635d)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2467%2F224.jpg&hash=5aafe9235672ddb043dc008a84a480416e96fa38)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2467%2F221.jpg&hash=313e60dcd34af4c78292ac6309ab7cda05196b7a)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2467%2F222.jpg&hash=fcd9a559f02a1ce8c87dc747b2e30cd8145e247b)
I know one of my biggest problems is my terrible nose. When I was a kid I fell on the ground and broke it... that's why it is right turned (if I didn't break it, it would still be awful). As I can't afford a rhinoplasty, I really want to know if I can get passable with it the way it is. I don't mean beautiful, just passable...
And my second hugest flaw is my hairline and the way it gives me a huge brow. I can't make my hair look good and it have a will of its own. Besides that my hairline receded a few years back and gave me a typical male pattern hairline. It is slowly returning now that I am on HRT...but the problem is: my hair is getting longer, but the hair on the places I lost hair is still too short and I can't do anything with it. Is there any way I can style it into a more feminine way? Or is a wig my only hope?
And another problem, but not the last one I guess...is my brow bossing. Again, I can't do anything about it...I will have to try passing the way it is...is it too bad?
I felt really good when I added a virtual wig and some make-up (as in my profile pic) and I got a nice result...but I don't know if it is possible for me to achieve something like that in real life. (I don't have a wig, but I am considering buying one)
Do I have any hope of passing?
Thank you everyone! :-*
Hi Natalia ,
You really should try and relax , it is nothing to worry about , you look great . I mean even in 'boy mode' you show femininity and that means that you are totally passable . Just look at your profile pic , still you with a big smile like you should always have , why would you be worry ? You are beautiful , not only passable . Your hair will grow and soon you will be able to do more hairstyles with it .
I hope at FFS too , to make me more feminine and maybe more beautiful , but , we should live as who we really are , not wait for years until coming out in public .
I think at FFS as my 'ace in the sleeve' , whenever I hate what I see in the mirror I think and hope that FFS will change it in better .
So relax , it will be great , I envy you for going out as a real you , i hope i will do it soon too ;)
How am I looking? Just got my eyebrows waxed last week!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1/10007497_280246582132347_1679578098_n.jpg)
Quote from: Riley Skye on March 08, 2014, 10:31:13 PM
How am I looking? Just got my eyebrows waxed last week!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1/10007497_280246582132347_1679578098_n.jpg)
looking very nice
More of the same app. Geek chic:
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Quote from: stephaniec on March 08, 2014, 10:40:32 PM
looking very nice
I'm seeing all girl now. The past month has been good to you.
Natalia, I wrote a long post in an attempt to address your concerns, but don't know where it went. When I clicked submit it was posted, but now I don't see the post. :( Did you also post on another site (one to make sure I'm not thinking of that one)?
Quote from: Claudia_FF on March 08, 2014, 10:05:32 PM
Hi Natalia ,
You really should try and relax , it is nothing to worry about , you look great . I mean even in 'boy mode' you show femininity and that means that you are totally passable . Just look at your profile pic , still you with a big smile like you should always have , why would you be worry ? You are beautiful , not only passable . Your hair will grow and soon you will be able to do more hairstyles with it .
I hope at FFS too , to make me more feminine and maybe more beautiful , but , we should live as who we really are , not wait for years until coming out in public .
I think at FFS as my 'ace in the sleeve' , whenever I hate what I see in the mirror I think and hope that FFS will change it in better .
So relax , it will be great , I envy you for going out as a real you , i hope i will do it soon too ;)
Thank you very much Claudia! ^^ Your words were a great boost for me, more than you know! ;) I grew seeing me as someone ugly and only the thought of being different than that was not even a remote possibility for me. I was never called beautiful for anyone (except my mom lol but this doesn't count)...so I really appreciate you telling me otherwise!
Quote from: thevaliantx on March 08, 2014, 11:03:46 PM
Natalia, I wrote a long post in an attempt to address your concerns, but don't know where it went. When I clicked submit it was posted, but now I don't see the post. :( Did you also post on another site (one to make sure I'm not thinking of that one)?
Thank you Thevaliantx! I really thank you for spending your time with my post! It's sad that your post disappeared...perhaps a moderator can find it! I have posted only here on this thread...so let's hope it can be recovered!
Quote from: AlyssaL on March 09, 2014, 12:42:15 AM
Hey All,
I took some new pictures tonight and I thought I would post how things are progressing in terms of my makeup and my clothes. A couple of questions (and feel free to be honest):
Are the fake breasts I have the right size for me (maybe hard to tell from this angle)? Do I have a feminine body? What if anything should I work on in terms of makeup?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi122.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo279%2Fcautiouslyoptimistic81%2FMarch%25202014%2FIMG_20140308_194947_zps0ccdc5e8.jpg&hash=7a7106d69ea07030de6e1dcba6abc6a6ba69650c) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/cautiouslyoptimistic81/media/March%202014/IMG_20140308_194947_zps0ccdc5e8.jpg.html)
Thanks,
Alyssa
Somebody has it GOING ON!!!!! Yes, you look feminine! The one thing that I would do is to grow those nails out. Your frame is thin, everything about you appears to be slender, which is what guys usually like. I wish I had your hair, is it real? It has a sheen to it, just very pretty. I love your top, I'd be wearing that thing all day if I had it. Where did you get it? Keep smiling and post more pics. The breasts look fine, and I like how they ride low on your chest. Nothing worse than boobs that get a rash from hairs on the chin. :D
Natalia, if in public you look anything like your avatar then are going to be some J E A L O U S - W O M E N out there. And, I'm talking about the kind born with boobs, and no brains. Seriously, we live in a shallow world, and as the Indians were smart enough to know, the world should be glad that we 'two spirits' exist. There is just something incredibly beautiful about being 'trans'. We have the gift of being able to see both sides of the gender spectrum, and we possess empathy like no other. Some guy is going to be very lucky to have you in his arms, if not already.
If you choose to go the route of FFS, to put on the finishing touches of your transformation to womanhood, go for a rhinoplasty and brow shave, and that's it. You will be an excellent candidate for both, if you're dealing with a quality surgeon. The reason I say that is any work done to correct things is only going to enhance your face as the total package is already there. As you stay on HRT, and under the guidance of someone who specializes in skin and hair care, your hair should grow thicker and more bountiful.
You also have a big jawline, but you know what? My oldest sister is tall, athletic, big boned and even though she has that Anthony Robbins (motivational speaker, look him up sometime) facial profile she is really very pretty. She is the arm candy of a tall, handsome businessman in Atlanta.
Please post more of your pics. We're rooting for you, Natalia!
Quote from: Riley Skye on March 08, 2014, 10:31:13 PM
How am I looking? Just got my eyebrows waxed last week!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1/10007497_280246582132347_1679578098_n.jpg)
Keep growing that hair out. Are you on HRT and how long have you been on it? Not implying anything wrong with your face, just curious.
Quote from: Chic on March 08, 2014, 10:57:10 PM
More of the same app. Geek chic:
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We need to see more of your face in order to form any opinions other than it appears you are very shy and not confident in your looks.
If it makes you feel any better I posted my pictures and never got a response, but the reality is that I don't have a wig yet (and a lot of hair loss due to MPB) and I don't have any makeup yet, so......nobody is going to comment on someone who isn't on HRT, isnt trying to look like anything other than the gender they appear to be.
If you REALLY want some motivation to show that pretty face, then right now the only thing I'd pass as is a 'man in a wig'. Come on, open up that hair posing as curtains and ask for input! Remember, nobody is perfect, and if they were they wouldn't be in here showing their pics. Very, very few trans women (or trans men for that matter) 100% pass. Society is just too petty and picky about every little thing, and trying to tear everyone else down, to just let things go. At least that's the case in most of the USA, especially where I live.
Come on, Geek Chic, peek a boo ;)
Quote from: Sectastic on March 08, 2014, 09:09:37 AM
Hey girls :) Ok, so I need some brutal honesty. I'm pre-everything and this is the first time I've tried dressing up like a girl, so I'm trying to get my makeup technique right at the moment and decide what kind of work I'm gonna need done. So any tips would be super appreciated :) Thanks! :)
also, I know te wigs a little messed up, it's a tad small and I haven't had it styled or anything yet.
You look great! :)
Quote from: Natalia on March 08, 2014, 01:58:58 PM
Hello ^^
Yes, it is me again! Sorry, I feel I am always coming here to ask for opinions...but I feel so unsecure about my future and this is killing me! :-\
(I want very sincere opinions. Don't worry about hurting me, because I will not take critics to the personal side)
The thing is: I don't have money for a FFS right now and I don't think I will have for the next few years, so I will have to pass with what I have when the time comes. I am slowly preparing myself, training my voice and so on, and I really would like to try going out as a woman on a few months from now. ;)
But...here they come ("boy mode", no make-up or anything!):
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2467%2F223.jpg&hash=f7a84548adaa04366404bec96fcd68621293635d)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2467%2F224.jpg&hash=5aafe9235672ddb043dc008a84a480416e96fa38)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2467%2F221.jpg&hash=313e60dcd34af4c78292ac6309ab7cda05196b7a)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2467%2F222.jpg&hash=fcd9a559f02a1ce8c87dc747b2e30cd8145e247b)
I know one of my biggest problems is my terrible nose. When I was a kid I fell on the ground and broke it... that's why it is right turned (if I didn't break it, it would still be awful). As I can't afford a rhinoplasty, I really want to know if I can get passable with it the way it is. I don't mean beautiful, just passable...
And my second hugest flaw is my hairline and the way it gives me a huge brow. I can't make my hair look good and it have a will of its own. Besides that my hairline receded a few years back and gave me a typical male pattern hairline. It is slowly returning now that I am on HRT...but the problem is: my hair is getting longer, but the hair on the places I lost hair is still too short and I can't do anything with it. Is there any way I can style it into a more feminine way? Or is a wig my only hope?
And another problem, but not the last one I guess...is my brow bossing. Again, I can't do anything about it...I will have to try passing the way it is...is it too bad?
I felt really good when I added a virtual wig and some make-up (as in my profile pic) and I got a nice result...but I don't know if it is possible for me to achieve something like that in real life. (I don't have a wig, but I am considering buying one)
Do I have any hope of passing?
Thank you everyone! :-*
The thing that gives you a "male" appearance is your hair. I don't know why but it looks that way. Your profile picture looks very feminine!
Quote from: Riley Skye on March 08, 2014, 10:31:13 PM
How am I looking? Just got my eyebrows waxed last week!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1/10007497_280246582132347_1679578098_n.jpg)
You look female!
Quote from: thevaliantx on March 07, 2014, 12:12:16 AM
Barbie: you have legs to die for, but I'm concerned about the way you're standing in the second picture. Do you have problems walking? It appears there is too much room in those boots. Even your first picture shows your ankles bowing out. Just concerned, that's all. I imagine you do walk very gracefully, with that red coat appearing to float in mid-air at night. ;D
Yes. Shoes always make some problem. Mostly women's shoes tend to too small and tight, but sometimes they are a little bit bigger and roomy. My feet are virtually tortured by those shoes, especially when I carry a big bag.
Fortunately, the boots you mentioned are roomy, but very comfortable, and I can run on them. The heel height is ca. 3 inch or 8 cm. I stayed 3 days in Seoul for some meetings while wearing those boots, and I walked a lot in the street. My feet are now fine.
Thanks for your keen observation!
barbie~~
Yes. Nowadays I think I can pass easily.
Last Friday I went to Seoul for a symposium and I was a kind of invited speaker. I changed name cards with other speakers and hosting persons. They could clearly read my manly name and hear my low voice. But a few of them still asked whether I am a man or a woman. I replied that I do not answer to those private questions. One of my colleagues jokingly suggested that I have better mark 'male' or 'female' in my name cards.
During the symposium, I shared the women's restroom with other ladies there, and they did not seem to be surprised by my existence. Sometimes I fixed my makeup there, too.
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<At the restroom>
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<In the front of a restaurant at Insadong, Seoul>
The left is supposedly an artistic sculpture, according to the owner of the restaurant.
barbie~~
I can't get over how happy and cute you look, Barbie. If I tried to make my legs look like that people would mistake me John Wayne.
Quote from: thevaliantx on March 09, 2014, 04:00:31 AM
Natalia, if in public you look anything like your avatar then are going to be some J E A L O U S - W O M E N out there. And, I'm talking about the kind born with boobs, and no brains. Seriously, we live in a shallow world, and as the Indians were smart enough to know, the world should be glad that we 'two spirits' exist. There is just something incredibly beautiful about being 'trans'. We have the gift of being able to see both sides of the gender spectrum, and we possess empathy like no other. Some guy is going to be very lucky to have you in his arms, if not already.
If you choose to go the route of FFS, to put on the finishing touches of your transformation to womanhood, go for a rhinoplasty and brow shave, and that's it. You will be an excellent candidate for both, if you're dealing with a quality surgeon. The reason I say that is any work done to correct things is only going to enhance your face as the total package is already there. As you stay on HRT, and under the guidance of someone who specializes in skin and hair care, your hair should grow thicker and more bountiful.
You also have a big jawline, but you know what? My oldest sister is tall, athletic, big boned and even though she has that Anthony Robbins (motivational speaker, look him up sometime) facial profile she is really very pretty. She is the arm candy of a tall, handsome businessman in Atlanta.
Please post more of your pics. We're rooting for you, Natalia!
Thank you very much Thevaliantx! ^^ I really plan to have FFS on the future and it is certain that I am going to need a traqueal shave too. My jawline doesn't bother me too much, at least not as my nose or my hair (oh my hair!). I would be a very happy girl if I can resemble my profile pic on the future, but the reality is that what I really want is just to pass as a woman and, if possible, to be able to live in stealth... and for now I can only count with HRT and the hope of recovering my hair. I am sure HRT will soften my features even more, but I am afraid of not passing with my nose, forehead and brow bossing... perhaps it is just a silly fear.
I think HRT together with a good diet (I lost 15-16kg) already helped me a lot. I mean, I looked terrible prior to HRT and I never expected to achieve what I have now. I know I still have a lot to go, but I really feel my face changed a lot in 5 months...here's an example:
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Around 1 year before HRT (June 2012) and after 5 months of HRT
Quote from: 930310 on March 09, 2014, 05:36:01 AM
The thing that gives you a "male" appearance is your hair. I don't know why but it looks that way. Your profile picture looks very feminine!
thank you 930310! :D My goal is to look like my profile pic someday, but that will take a while because indeed my hair is not helping at all! I am quite sure what gives me up is mainly my hairline, that receded on a male pattern. It was a lot worse before HRT. A LOT. I really hope I can grow my frontal hair soon and cover the spots with less hair! And I hope that HRT + finasteride + minoxidil keep doing their job holding my hair on my head!
Quote from: Natalia on March 09, 2014, 09:59:21 AM
Thank you very much Thevaliantx! ^^ I really plan to have FFS on the future and it is certain that I am going to need a traqueal shave too. My jawline doesn't bother me too much, at least not as my nose or my hair (oh my hair!). I would be a very happy girl if I can resemble my profile pic on the future, but the reality is that what I really want is just to pass as a woman and, if possible, to be able to live in stealth... and for now I can only count with HRT and the hope of recovering my hair. I am sure HRT will soften my features even more, but I am afraid of not passing with my nose, forehead and brow bossing... perhaps it is just a silly fear.
I think HRT together with a good diet (I lost 15-16kg) already helped me a lot. I mean, I looked terrible prior to HRT and I never expected to achieve what I have now. I know I still have a lot to go, but I really feel my face changed a lot in 5 months...here's an example:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs28.postimg.org%2Fnjtaj0m71%2Fbefore.png&hash=2c64c86effd934c97a8a68140ab98873ba968628)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs11.postimg.org%2Fgma85f7qb%2Fafter.jpg&hash=559f01ce115074ebcb75a8570486664a8c274943)
Around 1 year before HRT (June 2012) and after 5 months of HRT
thank you 930310! :D My goal is to look like my profile pic someday, but that will take a while because indeed my hair is not helping at all! I am quite sure what gives me up is mainly my hairline, that receded on a male pattern. It was a lot worse before HRT. A LOT. I really hope I can grow my frontal hair soon and cover the spots with less hair! And I hope that HRT + finasteride + minoxidil keep doing their job holding my hair on my head!
Wow! One can really see how much you've changed since starting HRT!
If there is one more thing to point out it is that your eyebrows are looking a bit too long. They seem to go in a very wide arch above your eyes.
930310, great catch haha!!! She's a big fan of McDonald's. If you hadm't caught that there is a real chance her eyebrows would have done a figure eight 8-)
Just messing with ya Natalia :laugh:
Seriously that has got to be one of the most dramatic transformations I have seen with HRT. Was the clinic doing a "but 1 get 1 free" E special? That girl would probably have a hot flash in the middle of Antartica.
Quote from: thevaliantx on March 09, 2014, 04:11:00 PM
930310, great catch haha!!! She's a big fan of McDonald's. If you hadm't caught that there is a real chance her eyebrows would have done a figure eight 8-)
Just messing with ya Natalia :laugh:
Seriously that has got to be one of the most dramatic transformations I have seen with HRT. Was the clinic doing a "but 1 get 1 free" E special? That girl would probably have a hot flash in the middle of Antartica.
Digressing, but i thought hot flashes was from a lack of E? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but i've been having some flashes recently and yet i am on quite a high dose of E and P.
I wanted to get your opinions. Do I pass fine, or am I still going to have a good chance of getting clocked?
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Quote from: castle of glass on March 09, 2014, 04:31:36 PM
Digressing, but i thought hot flashes was from a lack of E? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but i've been having some flashes recently and yet i am on quite a high dose of E and P.
You may be right.......I just thought of Sandra Bullock waving her hands in front of her face ......let's try to have some fun in this thread :D
Quote from: Ксениа on March 09, 2014, 04:47:06 PM
I wanted to get your opinions. Do I pass fine, or am I still going to have a good chance of getting clocked?
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You look great! If someone has a keen eye, and they're knowledgable of the differences male and female faces and skulls, they may catch the following:
* male hairline, particularly toward the temples. I love that you play with your hair (I imagine you get a lot of guys hot and bothered), but watch it when you pull your hair back. Your situation is easily fixable through surgery.
* you have baby hands (short fingers) like I do. They are short relative the sizes of your hands in general. Because of this you can make your fingers appear longer by growing out your nails.
* brow bossing appears to be very minor for you. That's almost aways easily resovable with surgery.
* I am not a makeup expert by any means, but I am wondering about the shaping, positioning and color (too dark?) of your eyebrows.
* in the lighting conditions of your photo your adams apple appears to be nonexistent. Same with moi :)
* did you have an injury near the outside of your left eye? Just curious, but this will illustrate that people can pick up on the most insignificant of details.
You are beautiful, physically speaking, I call'em as I see'em. ;)
Quote from: Ксениа on March 09, 2014, 04:47:06 PM
I wanted to get your opinions. Do I pass fine, or am I still going to have a good chance of getting clocked?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2Fa33dd4a3336cf330d3b189c891dfb9d7661a8967ece2f42f379996b8844b4630.jpg&hash=c78ce492a4904f33550740113c071008e8fbf2b3)
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The chances of you getting clocked are very low.
You pass!
Quote from: thevaliantx on March 09, 2014, 05:29:39 PM
You look great! If someone has a keen eye, and they're knowledgable of the differences male and female faces and skulls, they may catch the following:
* male hairline, particularly toward the temples. I love that you play with your hair (I imagine you get a lot of guys hot and bothered), but watch it when you pull your hair back. Your situation is easily fixable through surgery.
* you have baby hands (short fingers) like I do. They are short relative the sizes of your hands in general. Because of this you can make your fingers appear longer by growing out your nails.
* brow bossing appears to be very minor for you. That's almost aways easily resovable with surgery.
* I am not a makeup expert by any means, but I am wondering about the shaping, positioning and color (too dark?) of your eyebrows.
* in the lighting conditions of your photo your adams apple appears to be nonexistent. Same with moi :)
* did you have an injury near the outside of your left eye? Just curious, but this will illustrate that people can pick up on the most insignificant of details.
You are beautiful, physically speaking, I call'em as I see'em. ;)
WHen I was a kid, i almost lost my left eye in an accident but was lucky enough my eye didnt actually get hit.
WHat is brow bossing?
I have zero make up in my eyebrowns and they are my natural color. I have a very thick uni-brow so I have a lot of options. :)
THe adams apple is small, the only time you see it is if i tilt my head all the way back, and then swallow. otherwise you cant see it.
Quote from: 930310 on March 09, 2014, 05:30:35 PM
The chances of you getting clocked are very low.
You pass!
Thank you. :)
Quote from: thevaliantx on March 09, 2014, 04:11:00 PM
930310, great catch haha!!! She's a big fan of McDonald's. If you hadm't caught that there is a real chance her eyebrows would have done a figure eight 8-)
Just messing with ya Natalia :laugh:
Seriously that has got to be one of the most dramatic transformations I have seen with HRT. Was the clinic doing a "but 1 get 1 free" E special? That girl would probably have a hot flash in the middle of Antartica.
Thank you! Sometimes I barely recognize myself when I look my old pics...I guess I really changed a lot (hopefully for the better ^^)
Oh no! Is my taste for Quarter pounder with cheese reflecting on my eyebrows? I'll see what I can do about them, they really go down too far...I am only afraid to mess with the arch and end giving a straight look to them.
And...hmmm I guess my vacation on Antactica would be quite short..let's say that I'd die in minutes lol I had hot flashes when I was with T blockers only...I felt tired and had flashes all the time. Lucky me I entered with E not so long after and with a considerable high dose all returned to normal.
Quote from: Ксениа on March 09, 2014, 04:47:06 PM
I wanted to get your opinions. Do I pass fine, or am I still going to have a good chance of getting clocked?
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I wouldn't think anything but "woman."
Getting there I hope? These sure are a lot better than my last picture :).
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Jane
Quote from: Natalia on March 09, 2014, 05:41:44 PM
Thank you! Sometimes I barely recognize myself when I look my old pics...I guess I really changed a lot (hopefully for the better ^^)
Oh no! Is my taste for Quarter pounder with cheese reflecting on my eyebrows? I'll see what I can do about them, they really go down too far...I am only afraid to mess with the arch and end giving a straight look to them.
And...hmmm I guess my vacation on Antactica would be quite short..let's say that I'd die in minutes lol I had hot flashes when I was with T blockers only...I felt tired and had flashes all the time. Lucky me I entered with E not so long after and with a considerable high dose all returned to normal.
I love my McDonalds. I get the large #4, the double quarter pounder and I love it! eat the like 3-6 times a week.
Quote from: Ксениа on March 09, 2014, 04:47:06 PM
I wanted to get your opinions. Do I pass fine, or am I still going to have a good chance of getting clocked?
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You are a babe.
Quote from: Feyru on March 09, 2014, 07:25:28 PM
You are a babe.
Now I can add that to my list of first. I have never been called a babe before. :)))) Thank you.
Quote from: JaneNicole2013 on March 09, 2014, 06:07:01 PM
Getting there I hope? These sure are a lot better than my last picture :).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhtttp%3A%2F%2Fi803.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy318%2Fjane_nicole1%2F03_09_14c_zps1f5f6e5f.jpg&hash=4622a9cf6c0bf94afb1d7d1b10517e4ef15d1c18) (http://s803.photobucket.com/user/jane_nicole1/media/03_09_14c_zps1f5f6e5f.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi803.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy318%2Fjane_nicole1%2F5dba3e72-5158-466f-97ae-256601d62bea_zpsf0c847de.jpg&hash=86db0a2a97cbcaf9ac26bddac3b3d6f8af40bfdd) (http://s803.photobucket.com/user/jane_nicole1/media/5dba3e72-5158-466f-97ae-256601d62bea_zpsf0c847de.jpg.html)
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Jane
Yes, you ARE getting there! I love how feminine your arms are becoming. Your figure overall is improving :) Is that hair your's?
Quote from: thevaliantx on March 09, 2014, 07:38:21 PM
Yes, you ARE getting there! I love how feminine your arms are becoming. Your figure overall is improving :) Is that hair your's?
Thanks! I am happy that my arms are slimming down a bit but boy, does it make it hard to open jars now!
Alas, I wish that was my real hair but it is a wig -- out of the box actually. I want to take it somewhere to get trimmed up a bit.
Jane
Jane, I absolutely love your purple top, black spandex and boots. You are rocking it! ;D
Quote from: AlyssaL on March 09, 2014, 12:42:15 AM
Hey All,
I took some new pictures tonight and I thought I would post how things are progressing in terms of my makeup and my clothes. A couple of questions (and feel free to be honest):
Are the fake breasts I have the right size for me (maybe hard to tell from this angle)? Do I have a feminine body? What if anything should I work on in terms of makeup?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi122.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo279%2Fcautiouslyoptimistic81%2FMarch%25202014%2FIMG_20140308_194947_zps0ccdc5e8.jpg&hash=7a7106d69ea07030de6e1dcba6abc6a6ba69650c) (http://s122.photobucket.com/user/cautiouslyoptimistic81/media/March%202014/IMG_20140308_194947_zps0ccdc5e8.jpg.html)
Thanks,
Alyssa
O.M.G. Alyssa, smokin' photo! Your previous avatar was really serious; this smile is great. Turns out you have a body of a slender teenage girl, who knew? It's my turn to be jealous, because I want a sweater with a neck like that. The breasts fit you.
Can't see the makeup too much, which is normal for selfies - cell phone cameras wash it out. If you had the kind of makeup that showed vividly in photos, you might look theatrical in real life.
Quote from: JaneNicole2013 on March 09, 2014, 06:07:01 PM
Getting there I hope? These sure are a lot better than my last picture :).
Jane
You really are :)
Quote from: Natalia on March 09, 2014, 09:59:21 AM
Thank you very much Thevaliantx! ^^ I really plan to have FFS on the future and it is certain that I am going to need a traqueal shave too. My jawline doesn't bother me too much, at least not as my nose or my hair (oh my hair!). I would be a very happy girl if I can resemble my profile pic on the future, but the reality is that what I really want is just to pass as a woman and, if possible, to be able to live in stealth... and for now I can only count with HRT and the hope of recovering my hair. I am sure HRT will soften my features even more, but I am afraid of not passing with my nose, forehead and brow bossing... perhaps it is just a silly fear.
I think HRT together with a good diet (I lost 15-16kg) already helped me a lot. I mean, I looked terrible prior to HRT and I never expected to achieve what I have now. I know I still have a lot to go, but I really feel my face changed a lot in 5 months...here's an example:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs28.postimg.org%2Fnjtaj0m71%2Fbefore.png&hash=2c64c86effd934c97a8a68140ab98873ba968628)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs11.postimg.org%2Fgma85f7qb%2Fafter.jpg&hash=559f01ce115074ebcb75a8570486664a8c274943)
Around 1 year before HRT (June 2012) and after 5 months of HRT
thank you 930310! :D My goal is to look like my profile pic someday, but that will take a while because indeed my hair is not helping at all! I am quite sure what gives me up is mainly my hairline, that receded on a male pattern. It was a lot worse before HRT. A LOT. I really hope I can grow my frontal hair soon and cover the spots with less hair! And I hope that HRT + finasteride + minoxidil keep doing their job holding my hair on my head!
Natalia when I look at this photo then look at your others the difference is amazing, especially with your hairline! You have gained so much hair back already I'm astonished. While I never lost my hairline, I did have thinning hair in patches on the top left side of my head that hrt brought to an abrupt stop in only 3 days. Now after 2 months and 1 week I can see the new growth and rethickning of my hair, and it's growing like a weed!, lol! Though you and I have very different hair types (mine is long and straight, while yours seems curly), looking at what you've accomplished gives me hope that I'll recover all of what I've lost and alot more. I've already noticed it getting in my way more feeling like it used to years ago, and I'm having to wear more pony tails to keep it out of the way when performing tasks.
There has been a big change in your face as well. It's much more feminine than before your hrt. If it's any consolation, I hate my nose too, -despise it. I have a small oval face I feel it's just too big for. However recently here earlier in this thread one girl shown me that after I've been on hrt for awhile my nose may actually feminize enough to fit my face. So let your hrt do it's thing. You've gotten amazing results already. I can only imagine you six months from now. :)
Quote from: AlyssaL on March 09, 2014, 11:14:33 PM
Stop your making me blush! :)
Yes, I will admit that I very much like the look of my body in this picture. I am very excited to see what HRT would do for me, as I think it would really feminize me quite well. Anything to reduce the muscle mass in my back, shoulder, pecs, and thighs. I am also (finally) going to get braces to help straighten my smile, which I am very excited about. I am not happy with my teeth, so I don't usually do a full smile in photos.
Love your avatar photo Jesse!
Alyssa
You think YOUR teeth are bad? I could swim with a plastic fin attached to my back, and end up floating to the top, belly up, after someone yelled "Great White Shark!". ::)
Quote from: JaneNicole2013 on March 09, 2014, 06:07:01 PM
Getting there I hope? These sure are a lot better than my last picture :).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi803.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy318%2Fjane_nicole1%2F03_09_14c_zps1f5f6e5f.jpg&hash=f437a345baacf8ad5b7430d7f80ef31d390ad6da) (http://s803.photobucket.com/user/jane_nicole1/media/03_09_14c_zps1f5f6e5f.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi803.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy318%2Fjane_nicole1%2F5dba3e72-5158-466f-97ae-256601d62bea_zpsf0c847de.jpg&hash=86db0a2a97cbcaf9ac26bddac3b3d6f8af40bfdd) (http://s803.photobucket.com/user/jane_nicole1/media/5dba3e72-5158-466f-97ae-256601d62bea_zpsf0c847de.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi803.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy318%2Fjane_nicole1%2F0146fddf-7d2f-408a-aee8-aa74c556d919_zps49edb742.jpg&hash=49ff043c17faec46a42ca50b310676c6f0309a57) (http://s803.photobucket.com/user/jane_nicole1/media/0146fddf-7d2f-408a-aee8-aa74c556d919_zps49edb742.jpg.html)
Jane
You look great!
Quote from: Natalia on March 09, 2014, 09:59:21 AM
Thank you very much Thevaliantx! ^^ I really plan to have FFS on the future and it is certain that I am going to need a traqueal shave too. My jawline doesn't bother me too much, at least not as my nose or my hair (oh my hair!). I would be a very happy girl if I can resemble my profile pic on the future, but the reality is that what I really want is just to pass as a woman and, if possible, to be able to live in stealth... and for now I can only count with HRT and the hope of recovering my hair. I am sure HRT will soften my features even more, but I am afraid of not passing with my nose, forehead and brow bossing... perhaps it is just a silly fear.
I think HRT together with a good diet (I lost 15-16kg) already helped me a lot. I mean, I looked terrible prior to HRT and I never expected to achieve what I have now. I know I still have a lot to go, but I really feel my face changed a lot in 5 months...here's an example:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs28.postimg.org%2Fnjtaj0m71%2Fbefore.png&hash=2c64c86effd934c97a8a68140ab98873ba968628)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs11.postimg.org%2Fgma85f7qb%2Fafter.jpg&hash=559f01ce115074ebcb75a8570486664a8c274943)
Around 1 year before HRT (June 2012) and after 5 months of HRT
thank you 930310! :D My goal is to look like my profile pic someday, but that will take a while because indeed my hair is not helping at all! I am quite sure what gives me up is mainly my hairline, that receded on a male pattern. It was a lot worse before HRT. A LOT. I really hope I can grow my frontal hair soon and cover the spots with less hair! And I hope that HRT + finasteride + minoxidil keep doing their job holding my hair on my head!
Natalia, I looked at the photos you previously posted and these in this post. It looks as if you have some regrowth! I am also on finasteride, at the Proscar dosage, for BPH.
You may still need some hair graft in the front, but your progress is great.
Quote from: barbie on March 09, 2014, 07:34:44 AM
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<In the front of a restaurant at Insadong, Seoul>
The left is supposedly an artistic sculpture, according to the owner of the restaurant.
barbie~~
In some places that pose is called an "invitation." ;)
In other places it's called "instruction". ;D
Quote from: Jamie D on March 10, 2014, 03:12:40 AM
In some places that pose is called an "invitation." ;)
I would say that it's called "mooning"
Quote from: Jamie D on March 10, 2014, 03:12:40 AM
In some places that pose is called an "invitation." ;)
Sure. The owner is a friend of my GG friend. She is over 40s, but looked sexy and stylish. As her restaurant was under repair, I could not have dinner there.
As she invited us to her restaurant someday, I will visit there again very soon, and will take some photos.
barbie~~
Quote from: Jamie D on March 10, 2014, 03:12:40 AM
In some places that pose is called an "invitation." ;)
I call it repulsivly discusting, the rest of you can call it what you wish.
Quote from: Allyda on March 10, 2014, 06:33:30 AM
I call it repulsivly discusting, the rest of you can call it what you wish.
It can be seen that way, but from another point of view, it can be funny for someone having a sense of humor along those lines.
Quote from: Jamie D on March 10, 2014, 03:09:26 AM
Natalia, I looked at the photos you previously posted and these in this post. It looks as if you have some regrowth! I am also on finasteride, at the Proscar dosage, for BPH.
You may still need some hair graft in the front, but your progress is great.
A scalp advance, as long as long as she remained with her HRT regimen and hair regrowth plan, would be more affective. The whole hairline is a little high, and I do not imagine she would want to lose hair in the back.
As the scalp advance was being done the brow shave and rhinoplasty could be done.
Quote from: Ксениа on March 10, 2014, 08:18:23 AM
It can be seen that way, but from another point of view, it can be funny for someone having a sense of humor along those lines.
A sense of humor never hurt anyone....mostly anyone. Ever watched those Just For Laughs videos on youtube? ;D
Quote from: Allyda on March 10, 2014, 12:01:26 AM
Natalia when I look at this photo then look at your others the difference is amazing, especially with your hairline! You have gained so much hair back already I'm astonished. While I never lost my hairline, I did have thinning hair in patches on the top left side of my head that hrt brought to an abrupt stop in only 3 days. Now after 2 months and 1 week I can see the new growth and rethickning of my hair, and it's growing like a weed!, lol! Though you and I have very different hair types (mine is long and straight, while yours seems curly), looking at what you've accomplished gives me hope that I'll recover all of what I've lost and alot more. I've already noticed it getting in my way more feeling like it used to years ago, and I'm having to wear more pony tails to keep it out of the way when performing tasks.
There has been a big change in your face as well. It's much more feminine than before your hrt. If it's any consolation, I hate my nose too, -despise it. I have a small oval face I feel it's just too big for. However recently here earlier in this thread one girl shown me that after I've been on hrt for awhile my nose may actually feminize enough to fit my face. So let your hrt do it's thing. You've gotten amazing results already. I can only imagine you six months from now. :)
I envy you girls with long straight hair :D Mine would be a lot longer if it didn't like to curl...I didn't know I would end having curly hair. When I was younger it was quite straight and when I was a child it was a very light brown, almost blonde!
At the first month I couldn't see anything at all, then on the second I could see some really small and thin hair growing on some bald areas, specially on the center of my hairline. On the next month they grew longer, but still thin. All the thinning hair started getting thicker on the fourth month. The sides of my hairline aren't coming back, but I can see some vellus hair there, so I think I can still have the hope that they might grow again. I just need to be patient and perhaps increase the dose of minoxidil ;)
If you had a minor hair loss I am quite sure you'll get it all back in no time! Recent hair loss seems to be very easy to revert. The places where I am having more regrowth are areas of very recent hair loss.
I am quite anxious for what HRT will bring me on the next months! I hope changes won't stop here. ;D
Quote from: Jamie D on March 10, 2014, 03:09:26 AM
Natalia, I looked at the photos you previously posted and these in this post. It looks as if you have some regrowth! I am also on finasteride, at the Proscar dosage, for BPH.
You may still need some hair graft in the front, but your progress is great.
Yes. I didn't believe I was getting such a regrowth! Everyone says that HRT won't bring your hair back and that finasteride will only stop you from losing more hair, but with me it was very different ^^
I've had amazing results with finestride myself. That's not my real hair in the avatar, but my own hair is filling in nicely. I still may need extensions but still, much better than before.
Quote from: JaneNicole2013 on March 10, 2014, 11:30:04 AM
I've had amazing results with finestride myself. That's not my real hair in the avatar, but my own hair is filling in nicely. I still may need extensions but still, much better than before.
I can't wait to get started on Fin.
Quote from: m7♭5 on March 10, 2014, 01:29:44 PM
I can't wait to get started on Fin.
I'm looking forward to hear about your results!
My wife and I were talking about this today. When I was on HRT before I took Fin and something else to combat hairloss and regrow hair. We think the other component (I should say com"potion", lol) was something like Androcur? Quite ironic that my beard was the only thing stopping me from pursuing transitioning, and now it's the hair on my head. What next? I don't think I want to know :D
here is a pre-everything picture of me back when I was far away from home and HRT seemed like a distant dream
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I have since got rid of that beard shadow that haunted me 5-6 hours after shaving, only a little patch of stubborn hairs left on my chin ^_^ people say that I have a feminine face and that I wont need FFS but I am not sure about that
this is what I looked like before when I was 280lbs >_<
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrAgmoxy.jpg&hash=b71ae77dd0d4589ffbcb13a7896771cd49593057)
Quote from: Laurelin on March 10, 2014, 04:16:37 PM
here is a pre-everything picture of me back when I was far away from home and HRT seemed like a distant dream
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FI0UU0BB.jpg&hash=420fdce58799e59c8efa4607a5c12cad4c55f443)
I have since got rid of that beard shadow that haunted me 5-6 hours after shaving, only a little patch of stubborn hairs left on my chin ^_^ people say that I have a feminine face and that I wont need FFS but I am not sure about that
this is what I looked like before when I was 280lbs >_<
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrAgmoxy.jpg&hash=b71ae77dd0d4589ffbcb13a7896771cd49593057)
Hi, I can't see any recent picture of you?
Yeah! I have returned home to my family and I am not allowed to the girlmode until we move to a more liberal neigbourhood >_< living in a muslim country is kinda problematic if you are trans. I shared this because I kinda treasure that picture :)
Quote from: Laurelin on March 10, 2014, 06:14:47 PM
Yeah! I have returned home to my family and I am not allowed to the girlmode until we move to a more liberal neigbourhood >_< living in a muslim country is kinda problematic if you are trans. I shared this because I kinda treasure that picture :)
It all makes sense now, everyone knows that muslim countries are pretty intolerant of all GLBTI people and their issues. You have our friendship and support here.
I think I would be afraid to even post on a site like this if I were in that kind if environment.
Quote from: m7♭5 on March 10, 2014, 01:29:44 PM
I can't wait to get started on Fin.
Finasteride was the first thing I went on back in December 2012. My thinning, receding hair had become quite noticeable. My pony tail had been getting progressively thinner for about 10 years. I noticed some shedding at first, which sort of freaked me out, but apparently it's par for the course. In March 2013 I noticed my scalp was less shiny, and at closer inspection, fine little hairs were definitely growing there. By June or so, the fine little hairs were much thicker and new ones were popping up all over the place. In July, dutasteride was added and by December I would say that 90% of what I had lost had grown back. I saw my therapist last weekend who hadn't seen me in about six months. She noted that I looked like I had twice as much hair as before and was shocked when I told her that 100% of it was growing out of my head. Apparently what I experienced was a "best case scenario". It hear that these kinds of AAs can cause some nasty depression in some cases and should be discontinued in those instances.
Jill, would you care to share a pic of your receding hair at its worst? I am afraid mine is too far gone.
I know I posted these pics but I'm curious as to what you guys think, oh yeah I'm not mute after all too and I sound excited ;)
(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1011080_277146369109035_1248431618_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/1622008_276799525810386_563496224_n.jpg)
http://vocaroo.com/i/s12MbuL86KJh
Quote from: Riley Skye on March 11, 2014, 01:32:02 AM
I know I posted these pics but I'm curious as to what you guys think, oh yeah I'm not mute after all too and I sound excited ;)
(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1011080_277146369109035_1248431618_n.jpg)
http://vocaroo.com/i/s12MbuL86KJh
I dont think ive seen that top one though, cute as always Riley!
Riley, how long have you been on HRT? I think those pants are too tight, and I don't like the way you are standing, especially with your hands in your pockets. Your face looks prety, though. Your waist needs to shrink and your hips need to grow. Patience! :)
Quote from: Riley Skye on March 11, 2014, 01:32:02 AM
I know I posted these pics but I'm curious as to what you guys think, oh yeah I'm not mute after all too and I sound excited ;)
(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1011080_277146369109035_1248431618_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/1622008_276799525810386_563496224_n.jpg)
http://vocaroo.com/i/s12MbuL86KJh
The way you stand in your picture isn't helping you looking female. Your face looks great, but below it there are some things that needs to change. Maybe try wearing a corset would help out a bit.
Quote from: Riley Skye on March 11, 2014, 01:32:02 AM
I know I posted these pics but I'm curious as to what you guys think, oh yeah I'm not mute after all too and I sound excited ;)
You look and sound great. Bottom pick does look awkward, but I've seen other pictures that don't so it's just an awkward pic.
Quote from: Riley Skye on March 11, 2014, 01:32:02 AM
I know I posted these pics but I'm curious as to what you guys think, oh yeah I'm not mute after all too and I sound excited ;)
Riley, I think you look great. Like some others said if you keep your feet together when you stand it will show off your hips and waist better I think. Your face looks really good :)
We went for a drive at the weekend and did some sightseeing, stopped in a cafe and then finally had dinner on the way home. It was great day out.
All in all I was out for 9 hours or so, so the beard shadow began to show at the end.
This was the most I've ever felt like I passed and as such a big confidence booster. I had a lot of people looking at me, but I think it was mainly because I stand out as so tall and so foreign among the Japanese. At least that's what I'm telling myself :)
I would love to know what this guy was thinking in the first picture
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FaCeYUWW.jpg&hash=c0bfdaee0aa4537c34e95ac3e47d255daa8fedc8)
This was at dinner before we went home:
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Quote from: Joan on March 11, 2014, 06:36:11 AM
We went for a drive at the weekend and did some sightseeing, stopped in a cafe and then finally had dinner on the way home. It was great day out.
All in all I was out for 9 hours or so, so the beard shadow began to show at the end.
This was the most I've ever felt like I passed and as such a big confidence booster. I had a lot of people looking at me, but I think it was mainly because I stand out as so tall and so foreign among the Japanese. At least that's what I'm telling myself :)
I would love to know what this guy was thinking in the first picture
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FaCeYUWW.jpg&hash=c0bfdaee0aa4537c34e95ac3e47d255daa8fedc8)
This was at dinner before we went home:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F93N17FS.jpg&hash=3da9318e11b85a1af37aff65d4ef15cdc6f3c238)
I guess he thought something like this: "Oh what a pretty lady, I'd love to ask her out".
But jokes aside, you look great in both pictures!
Quote from: Joan on March 11, 2014, 06:25:57 AM
Riley, I think you look great. Like some others said if you keep your feet together when you stand it will show off your hips and waist better I think. Your face looks really good :)
I agree. Posture counts for a lot. In addition to standing with your feet together, try holding your elbows in--the "hand in the pocket" posture is definitely a male pose -- or maybe hands on hips instead?
As for the face alone, I think you have it nailed.
Quote from: 930310 on March 11, 2014, 06:54:03 AM
I guess he thought something like this: "Oh what a pretty lady, I'd love to ask her out".
But jokes aside, you look great in both pictures!
Hehe, maybe that's what it was and maybe it wasn't ;)
Thanks for the comment :)
Quote from: Joan on March 11, 2014, 08:57:26 AM
Hehe, maybe that's what it was and maybe it wasn't ;)
Thanks for the comment :)
You're welcome! ;)
Quote from: Joan on March 11, 2014, 06:36:11 AM
We went for a drive at the weekend and did some sightseeing, stopped in a cafe and then finally had dinner on the way home. It was great day out.
All in all I was out for 9 hours or so, so the beard shadow began to show at the end.
This was the most I've ever felt like I passed and as such a big confidence booster. I had a lot of people looking at me, but I think it was mainly because I stand out as so tall and so foreign among the Japanese. At least that's what I'm telling myself :)
I would love to know what this guy was thinking in the first picture
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FaCeYUWW.jpg&hash=c0bfdaee0aa4537c34e95ac3e47d255daa8fedc8)
This was at dinner before we went home:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F93N17FS.jpg&hash=3da9318e11b85a1af37aff65d4ef15cdc6f3c238)
I guess people stare because we are gaijin. I'm half japanese and going over there quite frequently when i was younger (long time before HRT), i did get stares and looks. People are just curious :)
I don't take good pics :(
Quote from: Riley Skye on March 11, 2014, 10:57:32 AM
I don't take good pics :(
You can't or you don't want to?
Quote from: Riley Skye on March 11, 2014, 10:57:32 AM
I don't take good pics :(
That last one, I agree. You looked like you had just tied up your horse and were ready to bust through the swinging doors to clear out a saloon of ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-s.
On a more lighter note John Wayne used to CD, I think.
Now.....put those hands behind your back, cross your feet (no, this isn't the BDSM forum) and give us that pretty smile. You are beautiful, Riley. :angel:
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on March 11, 2014, 02:16:03 PM
Taking selfies is quite hard, btw. After almost 10 months of extensive self-picturing I still suck at this...
Wow, off-topic, but I swear I saw "self-puncturing". Glad I read that wrong.
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on March 11, 2014, 02:16:03 PM
Taking selfies is quite hard, btw. After almost 10 months of extensive self-picturing I still suck at this...
Don't puncture yourself, your boobs will go flat! :icon_hahano: :laugh:
Quote from: Shantel on March 11, 2014, 02:38:46 PM
Don't puncture yourself, your boobs will go flat! :icon_hahano: :laugh:
Speak for yourself 8) :P
Quote from: Joan on March 11, 2014, 06:36:11 AM
We went for a drive at the weekend and did some sightseeing, stopped in a cafe and then finally had dinner on the way home. It was great day out.
All in all I was out for 9 hours or so, so the beard shadow began to show at the end.
This was the most I've ever felt like I passed and as such a big confidence booster. I had a lot of people looking at me, but I think it was mainly because I stand out as so tall and so foreign among the Japanese. At least that's what I'm telling myself :)
I would love to know what this guy was thinking in the first picture
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FaCeYUWW.jpg&hash=c0bfdaee0aa4537c34e95ac3e47d255daa8fedc8)
This was at dinner before we went home:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F93N17FS.jpg&hash=3da9318e11b85a1af37aff65d4ef15cdc6f3c238)
Compared with other countries, my impression was that Japanese people do not stare at others so much. They are polite people. Yes. Still, a few people studied me, but far less than in other countries.
When I was in Sapporo.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3231%2F13091833125_72edf78c7a_o.jpg&hash=305e8fea1822e609a3584d7c937231d1381cedbf)
And in Tokyo.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3052%2F13092206844_eb73305fcb_o.jpg&hash=7a49a12e7b7846aa2163008cdfd1ba6a41e2ec35)
barbie~~
Quote from: Shantel on March 11, 2014, 05:08:01 PM
Emily and I are buds.
Good to hear that. We all need a little love, right?
Quote from: castle of glass on March 11, 2014, 09:43:11 AM
I guess people stare because we are gaijin. I'm half japanese and going over there quite frequently when i was younger (long time before HRT), i did get stares and looks. People are just curious :)
You're half Japanese? It's great that you got to experience both of your parental cultures growing up :)
I've been getting these curious looks for 20 years here, then they changed to a different kind of 'curious' look when I went out as myself, and now they're beginning to return to the first type of curious looks...if you see what I mean :)
Quote from: barbie on March 11, 2014, 04:52:36 PM
Compared with other countries, my impression was that Japanese people do not stare at others so much. They are polite people. Yes. Still, a few people studied me, but far less than in other countries.
When I was in Sapporo.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3231%2F13091833125_72edf78c7a_o.jpg&hash=305e8fea1822e609a3584d7c937231d1381cedbf)
And in Tokyo.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3052%2F13092206844_eb73305fcb_o.jpg&hash=7a49a12e7b7846aa2163008cdfd1ba6a41e2ec35)
barbie~~
I felt less stared at when I was in Korea than I do in Japan. I'm really looking forward to going to Korea again :)
Quote from: barbie on March 11, 2014, 04:52:36 PM
Compared with other countries, my impression was that Japanese people do not stare at others so much. They are polite people. Yes. Still, a few people studied me, but far less than in other countries.
When I was in Sapporo.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3231%2F13091833125_72edf78c7a_o.jpg&hash=305e8fea1822e609a3584d7c937231d1381cedbf)
And in Tokyo.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3052%2F13092206844_eb73305fcb_o.jpg&hash=7a49a12e7b7846aa2163008cdfd1ba6a41e2ec35)
barbie~~
If only I could travel as much as you've done...
Quote from: 930310 on March 11, 2014, 05:46:56 PM
If only I could travel as much as you've done...
Lol I have never gone abroad
Quote from: FalsePrincess on March 11, 2014, 05:48:26 PM
Lol I have never gone abroad
If you live in the US you've likely been a longer distance from your home than I've been.
I live in southern Sweden and the longest I've been from home was northern Germany, which is about 200 miles away.
Sweden and Greece are places I'd love to visit someday.
But every time I get back to Europe I just end up going home and staying there ::)
Come to athens we re gonna have super fun :)
Athens! Yes!! :D
Quote from: Natalia on March 09, 2014, 09:59:21 AM
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Around 1 year before HRT (June 2012) and after 5 months of HRT
wow. :o Your face says it all. You've changed a lot not just physically but your whole demeanor looks like a happy girl who's full of life now! The other picture looks so lifeless next to it. It's astonishing seeing what being yourself can do. Who knew that happy-go girl was hiding under that social pressured mask. Amazing progress!
Okay, I need some advice again.
As you all might (or might not) be aware, I'm considering going full-time. (Specifically, interviewing for jobs as a girl, which admittedly has me scared out of my wits.) But I'm having a few mental issues with needing to wear a wig in order to consistently be gendered female. I don't really consider myself that feminine. Being feminine takes conscious effort for me. I'd much rather be able to just chill out, be a nerd, not have to worry about my hair, not have to worry about makeup or the perfect de-masculinizing clothes and accessories, and yet still pass as female.
I think I FINALLY found a way to make myself still look completely female even when I'm not wearing a wig, and I'd like some opinions on the matter.
Again, this is serious. This isn't just a "boost my self-esteem" post. This is a "right now, with this appearance, could I go full-time, call myself Carrie, reasonably expect people to gender me female all the time, use the women's bathroom without worrying about it, and finally get on with my new life?"
I've only been out in public like this once so far, so I don't have the same sample size of consistent female genderings to back me up on this like I do when I'm wearing the wig, so I really want to make sure that I look female enough like this before I dare trying to intrude into women's spaces. So far I'm 2-0 in female-male genderings, so so far so good, but again, I'm just checking everyone here's opinion.
Thoughts?
(and by the way, this is a blatant "girl mode," because the clothes are indeed all female clothes. But it's definitely among my butchest and most androgynous ones. I do have ones that are much more blatantly-female. I'm just afraid to wear them until I'm more sure that I'm passing.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inrLBcB_ylk
Quote from: Joan on March 11, 2014, 05:39:55 PM
I felt less stared at when I was in Korea than I do in Japan. I'm really looking forward to going to Korea again :)
In Korea, everybody looks at me, especially foreigners and tourists. At my hometown, some women in the waiting room study me for more than 1 minutes. In northern Europe, it is the same. The U.S. tends to be less. In Korea, any foreigner tends to get inevitable attention, especially if your hair and eye color is not black.
Japan was the only country where people do not dare to meet my eyes so much.
barbie~~
Quote from: FalsePrincess on March 11, 2014, 06:20:34 PM
Come to athens we re gonna have super fun :)
I wish to go to Greece soon. Probably this year? I am not quite sure.
The longest place was Buenos Aires, and it took 36 hours from my hometown. Next year, probably I will go to São Paulo ( Saint Paul), and I hesitate to go there.
In April, I will go to Hawaii, and in September, to Spain. It will be exciting!
barbie~~
Carrie, I can't see the picture, but maybe it's just my phone???
Barbie, maybe Japanese people are good at staring without staring :D
You certainly travel a lot! It must be great to experience so many different cultures.
Quote from: PrincessPatience on March 11, 2014, 08:18:06 PM
wow. :o Your face says it all. You've changed a lot not just physically but your whole demeanor looks like a happy girl who's full of life now! The other picture looks so lifeless next to it. It's astonishing seeing what being yourself can do. Who knew that happy-go girl was hiding under that social pressured mask. Amazing progress!
What PrincessPatience said. You look really confident and happy in the second picture. It's like they are two different people :)
Quote from: Joan on March 12, 2014, 12:00:49 AM
Carrie, I can't see the picture, but maybe it's just my phone???
It's a video. So yeah, probably not going to show up on a phone.
Carrie what are you doing on this thread? It's time to stop looking for excuses to not be living as yourself and start living as yourself! ;)
You look good and you pass well.
Quote from: PrincessPatience on March 11, 2014, 08:18:06 PM
wow. :o Your face says it all. You've changed a lot not just physically but your whole demeanor looks like a happy girl who's full of life now! The other picture looks so lifeless next to it. It's astonishing seeing what being yourself can do. Who knew that happy-go girl was hiding under that social pressured mask. Amazing progress!
Quote from: Joan on March 12, 2014, 12:04:55 AM
What PrincessPatience said. You look really confident and happy in the second picture. It's like they are two different people :)
Indeed ^^
I am feeling much happier since I accepted myself and HRT has been so far the best antidepressant I could have. I am more confident since I can see a better future for me now. I also feel a lot more goofy sometimes ;D...I am always laughing and everything seems funny and amuse me now. I think this is a great change from the bored, sad and extremely shy person that I was.
Quote from: barbie on March 11, 2014, 11:47:29 PM
I wish to go to Greece soon. Probably this year? I am not quite sure.
The longest place was Buenos Aires, and it took 36 hours from my hometown. Next year, probably I will go to São Paulo ( Saint Paul), and I hesitate to go there.
In April, I will go to Hawaii, and in September, to Spain. It will be exciting!
barbie~~
I was born and I live in São Paulo. Despite all the violence and such, I was never robbed in all my life. Sure, it is a big polluted city, with heavy traffic and some very poor places where the risks of being robbed are greater, but I believe it is a problem shared by many big cities all over the world. Besides the bad aspects, here you can find some very nice places and restaurants! If you need any tips, just ask me. Oh, and if you come here someday, remember to call me ;)
Quote from: Heather on March 12, 2014, 12:43:45 AM
Carrie what are you doing on this thread? It's time to stop looking for excuses to not be living as yourself and start living as yourself! ;)
Just checking to see if I can still pass with the wig off. Sorry... :( It's just that the last time I posted a wigless video, the response seemed to be that I just looked female-leaning androgynous, with lots of people giving me advice on how I could look more blatantly-female. So now that I think I've finally found a wigless hair style that works, I'm just making sure that it really does before I even try entering women's spaces like this.
Hi girls, considering going out 1st time as me. It will be a private venue, group meeting of CIS and transgender females, just not confident enough ::) in my looks, dont want to scare anyone with my face.
I would be very happy to hear your true opinion.
This is my 1st photo with wig, also I did my eyebrows. Comments on make up also appreciated.
And yes, there is still visible beard shadow, which I am planning to fix with dermablend, as lipstick trick is not working well for me.
(https://scontent-a-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/1621799_1403259596604750_70198967_n.jpg)
Quote from: Trillian on March 12, 2014, 09:16:46 AM
Hi girls, considering going out 1st time as me. It will be a private venue, group meeting of CIS and transgender females, just not confident enough ::) in my looks, dont want to scare anyone with my face.
I would be very happy to hear your true opinion.
This is my 1st photo with wig, also I did my eyebrows. Comments on make up also appreciated.
And yes, there is still visible beard shadow, which I am planning to fix with dermablend, as lipstick trick is not working well for me.
(https://scontent-a-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/1621799_1403259596604750_70198967_n.jpg)
You're really very cute and have great potential, nice eyes and eyebrows, good job! The wig really complements and goes well with the shape of your face. I can see what appears as a little beard shadow. I'm not an expert on beard shadow cover ups, perhaps one of the other women here will have some good advice on that. But I like your looks, quite feminine and basically pretty.
Quote from: Trillian on March 12, 2014, 09:16:46 AM
Hi girls, considering going out 1st time as me. It will be a private venue, group meeting of CIS and transgender females, just not confident enough ::) in my looks, dont want to scare anyone with my face.
I would be very happy to hear your true opinion.
This is my 1st photo with wig, also I did my eyebrows. Comments on make up also appreciated.
And yes, there is still visible beard shadow, which I am planning to fix with dermablend, as lipstick trick is not working well for me.
(https://scontent-a-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/1621799_1403259596604750_70198967_n.jpg)
You look female. The thing that gives you away here is the beard shadow. Otherwise it's good!
Quote from: Shantel on March 12, 2014, 09:34:17 AM
You're really very cute and have great potential, nice eyes and eyebrows, good job! The wig really complements and goes well with the shape of your face. I can see what appears as a little beard shadow. I'm not an expert on beard shadow cover ups, perhaps one of the other women here will have some good advice on that. But I like your looks, quite feminine and basically pretty.
Doing my eyebrows was really a funny experience, like the old proverb "measure twice and cut once" :)
Quote from: 930310 on March 12, 2014, 09:40:53 AM
You look female. The thing that gives you away here is the beard shadow. Otherwise it's good!
I hate it and to make things worse, it grows so fast.
Thank you both Shantel, 930310 for your nice comments. I am yet to start HRT, which gives me hope for new exciting changes :) :
Quote from: Trillian on March 12, 2014, 10:02:20 AM
Doing my eyebrows was really a funny experience, like the old proverb "measure twice and cut once" :)
I hate it and to make things worse, it grows so fast.
Thank you both Shantel, 930310 for your nice comments. I am yet to start HRT, which gives me hope for new exciting changes :) :
If you intend to transition my best advice would be to get started on facial hair removal right away as it seemingly takes forever. Electrolysis is slow going, if your hairs are dark then laser is the way to go. If you start early then you should be all clear by the time you have transitioned fully.
Trillian you look lovely! Shantel is right, hair removal does take a long time! If you have sensitive skin though, i would recommend laser instead of electroylsis. Maybe i had a bad practitioner, but after a few sessions my skin got quite dry and sore (and been that way now for three months).
Quote from: Shantel on March 12, 2014, 10:07:09 AM
If you intend to transition my best advice would be to get started on facial hair removal right away as it seemingly takes forever. Electrolysis is slow going, if your hairs are dark then laser is the way to go. If you start early then you should be all clear by the time you have transitioned fully.
30-something and have quite a lot white ones, so looks like I have to do a mix of laser and electrolysis. Planning a visit to a specialist next week, to recommend the best option. Seeing a therapist already, but I think I have at least 6 months until hormone prescription.
Quote from: castle of glass on March 12, 2014, 10:12:18 AM
Trillian you look lovely! Shantel is right, hair removal does take a long time! If you have sensitive skin though, i would recommend laser instead of electroylsis. Maybe i had a bad practitioner, but after a few sessions my skin got quite dry and sore (and been that way now for three months).
Thank you :). This is what I am affraif of, heard a lot about unpleasant results after electrolysis by inexperienced practicioner
Trillian, not sure where you live, but the latest WPATH SOC states that a latter of referral for HRT is not necessary in order to go on HRT. If your therapist is suggesting otherwise, or won't address your inquiry into the matter, and you don't want to waste all that time for a letter, then find another therapist. They work for you, not the other way around. ^-^
It's been awhile since I posted in this thread lol But I've started to change a few things about myself so I figured I'd post again. I've gotten a bit of a different haircut, more layering, side swept bangs. Also I've been practicing with makeup, and I feel like I'm starting to get the hang of it :) Thoughts?
(https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1240550_1410167405909493_163968964_n.jpg) (https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/1236559_1410167109242856_1991447077_n.jpg) (https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1920019_1410167512576149_1031750241_n.jpg)
Quote from: Trillian on March 12, 2014, 09:16:46 AMAnd yes, there is still visible beard shadow, which I am planning to fix with dermablend, as lipstick trick is not working well for me.
If you hadn't mentioned it, I wouldn't have noticed. I'm not even sure I see it right now because everything else is so pretty and feminine. You should go to that meeting feeling very confident!
Trillian I think you look great. I didn't even notice the beard hair you mention when I first looked at your photo, and if you hadn't had mentioned it I wouldn't have during my second look. Your eyebrows have a nice curve also.
One thing worth mentioning when it comes to removing beard hairs (I loathe the wretched things and have been treating myself for almost a year) and why it takes so many treatments to rid ones self of them using lasers and IPL devices (I have both) is the simple fact that these devices only work while the hair is in the growth phase. And, this is why facial hair is soooo extreemly evil. For at any given time only 30% of facial hair is in the "growth" (anagen) phase. So in essence, during each treatment it's only possible to treat 30% of the facial hair you have. The remaining 70% is either in the "resting" (telogen) or "degradation" (catagen) phases, which can last for six weeks on up to six months depending on the individual. Unwanted hairs elsewhere on the body respond much better and can be gotten rid of with less treatments for the "growth" phase lumps to 63% for leg hair & the percentage of treatable hairs goes only up from there. Facial hair is the only hair on the body that has such a low percentage of hair in the growth phase, and why I consider each and every one of them the most wretched repulsive evil discusting things that they are.
Though I've posted this information elsewhere on other threads, I thought it may help some of the girls here to know why facial hair is the hardest of unwanted hairs to get rid of. Yes you can rid yourself of them (I have only a few grays due to my being 49 years old, left to deal with), it just takes many treatments and time. ;)
Ally
Quote from: thevaliantx on March 12, 2014, 03:36:26 PM
Trillian, not sure where you live, but the latest WPATH SOC states that a latter of referral for HRT is not necessary in order to go on HRT. If your therapist is suggesting otherwise, or won't address your inquiry into the matter, and you don't want to waste all that time for a letter, then find another therapist. They work for you, not the other way around. ^-^
Will challenge the therapist, just realized I am not informed much about requirements to start HRT. Need to dig in for more information.
Quote from: __________ on March 12, 2014, 07:24:22 PM
If you hadn't mentioned it, I wouldn't have noticed. I'm not even sure I see it right now because everything else is so pretty and feminine. You should go to that meeting feeling very confident!
Quote from: Allyda on March 12, 2014, 11:22:20 PM
Trillian I think you look great. I didn't even notice the beard hair you mention when I first looked at your photo, and if you hadn't had mentioned it I wouldn't have during my second look. Your eyebrows have a nice curve also.
.....
Ally
OMG, OMG. Thank you so much for the encouraging feedback. Looking forward to the event now :)
Quote from: Trillian on March 13, 2014, 06:18:03 AM
Will challenge the therapist, just realized I am not informed much about requirements to start HRT. Need to dig in for more information.
You're welcome ;)
alrighty so, im pre everything. never even tried cross dressing in my life, so bare in mind i look like a complete guy and this is probably the complete wrong thread to post in,
But i guess i want to get some opinions on how i can start slowly making myself look more feminine and stuff. Gonna get my hair cut differently and die it a bright colour or something really wacky and weird. but yeah.
So ignore the crappy hat, and the crappy beard. just want to get a general opinion on my face and if i put in a LOT of work if i could in time, possibly pass one day like you girls :D.
(sorry for the crap picture. its the only one i can find of me. and keep in mind im younger than i look :p)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7TKSTaq.jpg&hash=3ca1dc04292a390f26bbbc434baff8403e997087)
Oookay, here goes.
I'm obsessed with passing, to the point where it's what I'm thinking about day, night, even in my sleep. Obviously I'm still in the closet right now and have done little, but I sort of feel like any chance of passing is gone. I'm 22, have a horrible nose and brow ridge with a dimple chin and a beard shadow that will NEVER go away (jet black hair on deathly pale skin). I took these on lunch today, has testosterone destroyed any chance of me?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imageupload.co.uk%2Fimages%2F2014%2F03%2F13%2Fpic1.jpg&hash=46b595086a52ba57b8d0a7e88a4936dbc8731e6f)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imageupload.co.uk%2Fimages%2F2014%2F03%2F13%2Fpic4.jpg&hash=589aea7b07c6b71b4c26a9d2f11969150cd5bbfe)
This is a side view of what I'm talking about, I broke my nose against a brick wall when I was about 10 and it has never fully healed :( :
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imageupload.co.uk%2Fimages%2F2014%2F03%2F13%2Fpic3.jpg&hash=498ddb79a47719157969537967378db0ba032b91)
Thanks
Quote from: Caitlyn on March 12, 2014, 04:20:59 PM
It's been awhile since I posted in this thread lol But I've started to change a few things about myself so I figured I'd post again. I've gotten a bit of a different haircut, more layering, side swept bangs. Also I've been practicing with makeup, and I feel like I'm starting to get the hang of it :) Thoughts?
(https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1240550_1410167405909493_163968964_n.jpg) (https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/1236559_1410167109242856_1991447077_n.jpg) (https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1920019_1410167512576149_1031750241_n.jpg)
I love your new hair style!!! You are progressing wonderfully. :)
Quote from: Izla on March 13, 2014, 11:42:04 AM
Oookay, here goes.
I'm obsessed with passing, to the point where it's what I'm thinking about day, night, even in my sleep. Obviously I'm still in the closet right now and have done little, but I sort of feel like any chance of passing is gone. I'm 22, have a horrible nose and brow ridge with a dimple chin and a beard shadow that will NEVER go away (jet black hair on deathly pale skin). I took these on lunch today, has testosterone destroyed any chance of me?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imageupload.co.uk%2Fimages%2F2014%2F03%2F13%2Fpic1.jpg&hash=46b595086a52ba57b8d0a7e88a4936dbc8731e6f)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imageupload.co.uk%2Fimages%2F2014%2F03%2F13%2Fpic4.jpg&hash=589aea7b07c6b71b4c26a9d2f11969150cd5bbfe)
This is a side view of what I'm talking about, I broke my nose against a brick wall when I was about 10 and it has never fully healed :( :
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imageupload.co.uk%2Fimages%2F2014%2F03%2F13%2Fpic3.jpg&hash=498ddb79a47719157969537967378db0ba032b91)
Thanks
If you are pre everything you will do fine. Try to smile more though, it really feminizes a lot. The only things obvious to me is like you said, your nose and you will probably need brow bossing. Other than that you have a great face shape and should do very well, especially on HRT!
Quote from: TotallyAwks on March 13, 2014, 07:05:33 AM
alrighty so, im pre everything. never even tried cross dressing in my life, so bare in mind i look like a complete guy and this is probably the complete wrong thread to post in,
But i guess i want to get some opinions on how i can start slowly making myself look more feminine and stuff. Gonna get my hair cut differently and die it a bright colour or something really wacky and weird. but yeah.
So ignore the crappy hat, and the crappy beard. just want to get a general opinion on my face and if i put in a LOT of work if i could in time, possibly pass one day like you girls :D.
(sorry for the crap picture. its the only one i can find of me. and keep in mind im younger than i look :p)
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Give us a better picture you goof! lol
From what I see (which is not much due to the hat and the beard and the goofy facial expression) I think you will do fine. ^.^
Quote from: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on March 13, 2014, 12:25:42 PM
Give us a better picture you goof! lol
From what I see (which is not much due to the hat and the beard and the goofy facial expression) I think you will do fine. ^.^
/l\ Same here baby!
Take some "selfies" dear! I cant judge a book by it's cover. *giggle* ;D
Quote from: Caitlyn on March 12, 2014, 04:20:59 PM
It's been awhile since I posted in this thread lol But I've started to change a few things about myself so I figured I'd post again. I've gotten a bit of a different haircut, more layering, side swept bangs. Also I've been practicing with makeup, and I feel like I'm starting to get the hang of it :) Thoughts?
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You look good. I can't see much "male" in you.
Quote from: TotallyAwks on March 13, 2014, 07:05:33 AM
alrighty so, im pre everything. never even tried cross dressing in my life, so bare in mind i look like a complete guy and this is probably the complete wrong thread to post in,
But i guess i want to get some opinions on how i can start slowly making myself look more feminine and stuff. Gonna get my hair cut differently and die it a bright colour or something really wacky and weird. but yeah.
So ignore the crappy hat, and the crappy beard. just want to get a general opinion on my face and if i put in a LOT of work if i could in time, possibly pass one day like you girls :D.
(sorry for the crap picture. its the only one i can find of me. and keep in mind im younger than i look :p)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7TKSTaq.jpg&hash=3ca1dc04292a390f26bbbc434baff8403e997087)
The first thing that stuck out to me was the eyebrows. You can start plucking those away now, and that will go a long way.
Quote from: Izla on March 13, 2014, 11:42:04 AM
Oookay, here goes.
I'm obsessed with passing, to the point where it's what I'm thinking about day, night, even in my sleep. Obviously I'm still in the closet right now and have done little, but I sort of feel like any chance of passing is gone. I'm 22, have a horrible nose and brow ridge with a dimple chin and a beard shadow that will NEVER go away (jet black hair on deathly pale skin). I took these on lunch today, has testosterone destroyed any chance of me?
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This is a side view of what I'm talking about, I broke my nose against a brick wall when I was about 10 and it has never fully healed :( :
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Thanks
It is never too late! Since you are pre-everything and young you have a very good chance of getting very good results. As for the beard, if it's that dark you could try to get laser for it. If that won't help there is always electrolysis.
Haha thanks everyone, ill try and take a better picture sometime today, although im extremely bad at taking them :P
Here it is Fuzed in the flesh. I'm happy that i look barely masculine when i shave.
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Quote from: fuzed on March 14, 2014, 12:18:38 PM
Here it is Fuzed in the flesh. I'm happy that i look barely masculine when i shave.
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I think you look great! :) Grow your hair out and everything will be just amazing.
Quote from: fuzed on March 14, 2014, 12:18:38 PM
Here it is Fuzed in the flesh. I'm happy that i look barely masculine when i shave.
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I agree with Caitlyn. You have a good shape on your head and longer hair would definitely help!
Quote from: FilaFord on March 14, 2014, 02:41:08 PM
Last picture for a while. Think I am going to tell my therapist tomorrow that I want to press pause on transitioning for now... :-\
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If you still want to pass I'd suggest fixing your eyebrows a little. Otherwise it's mostly good.
Quote from: FilaFord on March 14, 2014, 02:41:08 PM
Last picture for a while. Think I am going to tell my therapist tomorrow that I want to press pause on transitioning for now... :-\
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Ever heard that beauty of the face is divided into thirds? It's a well known concept used by visual artists. Take the back of your hand, and using the photo you've put up here on Susan's, start at the top. First, cover everything except the hair and eyes. You will see a beautiful woman emerging, sans the eyebrows. Then, cover everything except the chin and mouth. Problem. FFS will be good to you (not every FFS client would be as fortunate). Your chin is still larger than normal, and you have lips with little fat in them. Supposedly HRT can fatten up the lips better, but there are other solutions for that, too. Next, cover everything except the chin, lips and nose. You will see that the nose is very pretty, but would look better with a rhinoplasty. (would look like prominent). So.....as you start at the top of your face, and considering each element on its own, as you go toward the bottom, it becomes more male-like. The bony brow area of your face, from that view, doesn't look bad. Your hairline, or at least the way you have your hair presenting it, looks MUCH better than many MtF's. It appears you have been on HRT for awhile, but I wonder if awhile longer would help to, relatively speaking, shrink the appearance of the chin area. I would NOT stop transitioning if I were you, and here's why.
* beautiful hair
* beautiful eyes
* eyebrows that would only make the top third of your face all the more stunning, if shaped correctly
* FFS would EASILY resolve your nose, lips and chin issues
* you have a feminine profile to your look
* you are a trans woman, and even if you didn't pass 100% of the time you look VERY attractive for a transwoman and most who clock who would say to themselves "well, he (borrowing their wording, not mine) looks a hell of a lot better than most guys....in makeup and girl's clothing". You 100% pass as a transwoman, in the face.
Quote from: FilaFord on March 14, 2014, 02:41:08 PM
Last picture for a while. Think I am going to tell my therapist tomorrow that I want to press pause on transitioning for now... :-\
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You don't look entirely female but if you choose to get FFS, I bet it'll make your face look more feminine. I do love the hair though!
HRT and transitioning are NOT the same thing. You can feminize your body to match what you expect to see in the mirror, to what you identify as, but you do NOT have to transition to the other gender. Many transwomen (and transmen) choose to not transition. I completely empathize with your fears. I am married, have a seven year old son, have a big time religious family on one side, and an ultra conservative one on the other side. On top of that, I live in a poor state (Kentucky) that has little 'real' support for the transgender population, let alone the entire LGBT family. You can be "in stealth" and have the body you want, and go out to clubs or with your "girlfriends", and be the girl you are in the privacy of your home (or on long walks, etc.) and not transition. Please do not stop HRT because you don't think you can transition. If you wait too long, you may start to lose your hair to balding, get crows feet, and other issues, and then things will be even more difficult as far as transitioning. Also, if you hit pause on HRT, it can throw up a red flag to doctors / endo's and you may not be able to get back on it again the legal way.
Quote from: thevaliantx on March 14, 2014, 09:11:43 PM
HRT and transitioning are NOT the same thing. You can feminize your body to match what you expect to see in the mirror, to what you identify as, but you do NOT have to transition to the other gender. Many transwomen (and transmen) choose to not transition. I completely empathize with your fears. I am married, have a seven year old son, have a big time religious family on one side, and an ultra conservative one on the other side. On top of that, I live in a poor state (Kentucky) that has little 'real' support for the transgender population, let alone the entire LGBT family. You can be "in stealth" and have the body you want, and go out to clubs or with your "girlfriends", and be the girl you are in the privacy of your home (or on long walks, etc.) and not transition. Please do not stop HRT because you don't think you can transition. If you wait too long, you may start to lose your hair to balding, get crows feet, and other issues, and then things will be even more difficult as far as transitioning. Also, if you hit pause on HRT, it can throw up a red flag to doctors / endo's and you may not be able to get back on it again the legal way.
I have to agree here with
thevaliantx. That is, unless you have doubts about being trans? Three weeks is no where near long enough on hrt to have much of any results. Hrt takes time to work. However you can take it from someone, me, who knew at a very early age I was female -actually for as long as I can remember, that waiting too long to transition brings upon more difficulty. My reasons for waiting were family, career, and finances but mostly I waited for my family's sake hoping they would eventually come around, which didn't happen despite my always looking more like a girl than a guy, having small feminime features, being xxy to boot, and being an adoptee in a family that had a biological son. Long story short I lost the best years of my life to misery and despair that twice became so bad it almost cost me my life. And now at 49 going on 50 (I'll turn 50 this coming Halloween) I had hair loss issues (not male pattern baldness, but the female kind) that thankfully hrt is correcting, I have wrinkles, burn scars on my left side of my face from an aircraft accident, and the worse of all graying facial hair that is very very veeery difficult to get rid of (I'm Native American with black hair). Though I've for the most part gotten rid of all my dark facial hair with my own lasers and IPL device (flash-n-go) I have to use this very messy carbon dye on the grays to make my lasers somewhat effective. Had I transitioned sooner I'd have had a much happier life as the woman I am, I may never have been in that aircraft to have an accident, And I'd definately have no discusting repulsive wretched facial hair left for it would have been all treated while it was all one color.
For me, now that I am transitioning I wouldn't stop it for anything, and for me to be whole I must fully transition with SRS/GRS to remove that repulsive thing between my legs and replace it with what should have been there in the first place. Due to my more delecate features I probably won't need FFS with the exception of Rhinoplasty, but I will need VFS (voice feminization surgery) due to the damage waiting all these years has cost, and, I'll need some plastic surgery to remove the rest of these scars (I've already had some), scars I may never have had had I transitioned sooner at a much younger age.
On the other side of the coin though getting back to my 1st sentence, You have to know inside for yourself, not because of what other people think, but for what you think and how you feel, that you are female and transitioning is right for you to be happy. However I speak from experience when I say that holding off, or pausing or delaying your transition because of what other people may or may not think, your family may or may not accept you as female, or your afraid you may or may not lose a few friends, or because you live in Kentucky if you know in your heart, mind and soul your female will be the biggest mistake of your life, and you will regret it later. The dysphoria doesn't go away as the years go by, it gets worse and worse, and will eat you alive from the inside out if you let it. In the end, you must do what makes you and only you happy, for your happiness to live the best life you can as happy as you can.
I hope what I've said helps whatever you decide. ;)
Ally
wow your being really bold in saying this LOL...couldn't resist
Quote from: Just Shelly on March 14, 2014, 10:16:36 PM
wow your being really bold in saying this LOL...couldn't resist
No, I'm not trying to be bold, self righteous, influence anybody's decisions, or anything like that. I'm only trying to help by sharing my own experiences over the years, and by sharing some of my regrets for waiting. If you notice I clearly state that the person must be sure with themselves that transitioning is right for them. Obviously, it isn't for everybody. Many MTF's don't need to fully transition to be happy as I do. In fully transitioning I'm only describing what is right for me. And how waiting so long to begin has made things more difficult. However it may not be right for everybody.
In the end we all must make our own decisions, and live with the consequences good or bad. What I said above is from the heart, and it wasn't easy for me to remeniss. My main point in the above words is only this: Our individual happiness no matter what level of transitioning we each decide to persue, should be each of our own decisions. ;)
Allyda, exactly! The thing that gives me HOPE that I will be able to express the real me in public is that there are transwomen out there with far worse circumstances surrounding transition than mine. I didn't even realize that Fila had been on HRT for such a short period of time.
Even though my wife is struggling with all of this, she does try to understand what is going on the minds of trans folk. I told her of Fila's situation today, and she said that (she was addressing Fila) if you are going on HRT because you have all these expectations of what you will look like as a result of HRT, and if you are transitioning because of how you see yourself later on down the road, you are going to be disappointed.
Not that << I >> am brave enough to do this, but I challenge any transwomen (or transman) to go out in public, dressed and presenting (very little to no makeup, though) how you would in a perfect world, using your natural voice and all (but talk femininely if you are MtF and roughly if you are FtM) and with a little exaggeration in your movements...and just be happy.....and my gut feeling is that you will make it back to your vehicle, bus, bike, horse or even camel alive....and happier. I'd love to see the pictures of others trying this approach. :angel:
It all seems ironic to me because I personally know a transwoman (she lives full-time as a woman, even buying tampons) who is my age...went to school with her up to a point before she dropped out. She does NOT have the most feminine face or even hands or feet. She has NOT had electrolysis, or even gone on HRT. She has no money to do those things and lives here in Kentucky, where there are no clinics for this kind of stuff. I don't like her, personally (she has a really vindictive personality). One thing that she has a lot of that I don't have, is hair. I can tell you this: she is ALL GIRL, she shaves her face, puts on a little makeup (no foundation, just light lipstick, tweaks her eyebrows, wears eye shadow) and paints her nails sometimes. While she is an unhappy person in general, as a woman she is riding it sky high. She 'passes' because she accepts herself, froggy voice, muscular hands -- her body in general is a slender frame -- and just has that womanly demeanor about her. Even if she gets clocked, no one will care because she doesn't care. Oh, and she has boyfriends galore. Most of them, that I've seen, are trash, but they obviously are going after a special kind of girl. ;)
Nooo makeup, crappy camera, raggedy oversized comfort hoodie that's seen better days, mcdonalds bag...general ghettoness...aka, I felt like posting a seriously raaw photo haha. Not sure WHAT I pass as in it, but w/e haha
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Quote from: thevaliantx on March 14, 2014, 11:12:18 PM
Allyda, exactly! The thing that gives me HOPE that I will be able to express the real me in public is that there are transwomen out there with far worse circumstances surrounding transition than mine. I didn't even realize that Fila had been on HRT for such a short period of time.
Even though my wife is struggling with all of this, she does try to understand what is going on the minds of trans folk. I told her of Fila's situation today, and she said that (she was addressing Fila) if you are going on HRT because you have all these expectations of what you will look like as a result of HRT, and if you are transitioning because of how you see yourself later on down the road, you are going to be disappointed.
Not that << I >> am brave enough to do this, but I challenge any transwomen (or transman) to go out in public, dressed and presenting (very little to no makeup, though) how you would in a perfect world, using your natural voice and all (but talk femininely if you are MtF and roughly if you are FtM) and with a little exaggeration in your movements...and just be happy.....and my gut feeling is that you will make it back to your vehicle, bus, bike, horse or even camel alive....and happier. I'd love to see the pictures of others trying this approach. :angel:
It all seems ironic to me because I personally know a transwoman (she lives full-time as a woman, even buying tampons) who is my age...went to school with her up to a point before she dropped out. She does NOT have the most feminine face or even hands or feet. She has NOT had electrolysis, or even gone on HRT. She has no money to do those things and lives here in Kentucky, where there are no clinics for this kind of stuff. I don't like her, personally (she has a really vindictive personality). One thing that she has a lot of that I don't have, is hair. I can tell you this: she is ALL GIRL, she shaves her face, puts on a little makeup (no foundation, just light lipstick, tweaks her eyebrows, wears eye shadow) and paints her nails sometimes. While she is an unhappy person in general, as a woman she is riding it sky high. She 'passes' because she accepts herself, froggy voice, muscular hands -- her body in general is a slender frame -- and just has that womanly demeanor about her. Even if she gets clocked, no one will care because she doesn't care. Oh, and she has boyfriends galore. Most of them, that I've seen, are trash, but they obviously are going after a special kind of girl. ;)
I myself have been living full time for the last 5 years even before hrt. I don't own any male clothes. But even when I did I was still for years prior always getting gendered as female, and it became increasingly impossible for me to pass as male. I'm in no way always getting spiffied up though. In fact, alot of times I go out with my hair in a pony, a tank or halter top with a light jacket and sweats with no makeup. I go as just, well, "Me" looking like a normal retired middle aged woman I am. I never get clocked despite sometimes I'm not feeling very feminine. I was sick all last week with the flu. A couple of times I couldn't avoid going out as I live alone and had to get some NyQuil and cough medicine. I had bed head, lol! but I did brush out my locks before heading into the Dollar General but the point is I looked terrible. You know I was never treated nicer as the cashears could see and by mt sniffles they could tell I was sick. However I was always addressed properly as Ms., Mam, etc., and a gentleman helped me out to my truck with my bags. It was Mme at my worse but it was just Me. Yea sometimes I do get gussied up but most of the time I'm just myself when I go out. I'm not overly confident nor underconfident (most of the time, lol) I'm just being myself, and it seems to work. Go figure.
Quote from: FilaFord on March 14, 2014, 11:55:14 PM
PSH! Stop stressing, girl. You are gorgeous!
I bet you look great in the morning after the roughest sleep you ever had...
Haha, I'm actually not stressing, its just I always post pictures with makeup, nice clthes, etcand I wanted to post one that's more..au naturale haha cuz I feel like I'm only telling half the story by always poisting makeup pics. I most certainly look horrrid in the morning haha
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 14, 2014, 11:46:44 PM
Nooo makeup, crappy camera, raggedy oversized comfort hoodie that's seen better days, mcdonalds bag...general ghettoness...aka, I felt like posting a seriously raaw photo haha. Not sure WHAT I pass as in it, but w/e haha
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You actually look very cute sitting there in that outfit. You have wonderful facial structure and wonderful skin. You look all girl to me.
Quote from: Allyda on March 14, 2014, 11:52:06 PM
I myself have been living full time for the last 5 years even before hrt. I don't own any male clothes. But even when I did I was still for years prior always getting gendered as female, and it became increasingly impossible for me to pass as male. I'm in no way always getting spiffied up though. In fact, alot of times I go out with my hair in a pony, a tank or halter top with a light jacket and sweats with no makeup. I go as just, well, "Me" looking like a normal retired middle aged woman I am. I never get clocked despite sometimes I'm not feeling very feminine. I was sick all last week with the flu. A couple of times I couldn't avoid going out as I live alone and had to get some NyQuil and cough medicine. I had bed head, lol! but I did brush out my locks before heading into the Dollar General but the point is I looked terrible. You know I was never treated nicer as the cashears could see and by mt sniffles they could tell I was sick. However I was always addressed properly as Ms., Mam, etc., and a gentleman helped me out to my truck with my bags. It was Mme at my worse but it was just Me. Yea sometimes I do get gussied up but most of the time I'm just myself when I go out. I'm not overly confident nor underconfident (most of the time, lol) I'm just being myself, and it seems to work. Go figure.
Omg I posted the above pic at the perfect time. Cuz tbh I feel the same lately. Like in that pic I obvs look terrible, but despite that I only get gendered female even looking like that. Lately I've been trying to separate myself from this idea that I stop being "me" or female when ilI take my makeup off...I'm definitely less attractive, for sure, haha. But really, I realize more and more the reason I pass is cuz I'm just being myself and embodying my female essence, not cuz of makeup. I guess authenticity is pretty important to me so I'm trying to get beyond the idea of NEEDING makeup
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 15, 2014, 12:10:43 AM
Omg I posted the above pic at the perfect time. Cuz tbh I feel the same lately. Like in that pic I obvs look terrible, but despite that I only get gendered female even looking like that. Lately I've been trying to separate myself from this idea that I stop being "me" or female when ilI take my makeup off...I'm definitely less attractive, for sure, haha. But really, I realize more and more the reason I pass is cuz I'm just being myself and embodying my female essence, not cuz of makeup. I guess authenticity is pretty important to me so I'm trying to get beyond the idea of NEEDING makeup
There ya go. You have those delicate feminine facial feartures as I do though I'm much older and wrinkled, lol! :laugh: but not too bad for my age though. But you got it. Just be yourself no matter what your wearing or where you are. You don't stop being you just because you've taken your makeup off do you? Therefore you don't stop being a woman when the makeup comes off either. I know I don't.
I LOooooovve your eyebrows by the way. Are those natural? They have a nice arch and fit your face well.
Quote from: Allyda on March 15, 2014, 12:21:52 AM
There ya go. You have those delicate feminine facial feartures as I do though I'm much older and wrinkled, lol! :laugh: but not too bad for my age though. But you got it. Just be yourself no matter what your wearing or where you are. You don't stop being you just because you've taken your makeup off do you? Therefore you don't stop being a woman when the makeup comes off either. I know I don't.
I LOooooovve your eyebrows by the way. Are those natural? They have a nice arch and fit your face well.
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Thankss you're really sweet :) and yeah, I agree with all that :) tho I still feel I look better with makeup atm,ihope as my hair regrows iget more confident going without it.
And aww thanks. They're mostly natural. I trim them to keep them tidy but follow their natural arch and such
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 15, 2014, 12:27:04 AM
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Thankss you're really sweet :) and yeah, I agree with all that :) tho I still feel I look better with makeup atm,ihope as my hair regrows iget more confident going without it.
And aww thanks. They're mostly natural. I trim them to keep them tidy but follow their natural arch and such
You'll be a knockout with or without makeup when your hair gets a little longer. Don't get me wrong your very cute now. Some women like you look great with shorter hair. I myself feel I don't because though I have the delicate features, I'm Native American and we don't doo well with shorter hair. I have had a pixie before though twice and all my friends loved it and said it made me look younger. But alas I like you prefer my hair longer. It's down to the middle of my back now and getting thicker also growing much faster since starting hrt. Anyway you look great! Wait til you start having trouble with men oggling you. It get's annoying I can tell you that, lol! :laugh: but it does make you feel more feminine.
Quote from: Allyda on March 15, 2014, 12:37:42 AM
You'll be a knockout with or without makeup when your hair gets a little longer. Don't get me wrong your very cute now. Some women like you look great with shorter hair. I myself feel I don't because though I have the delicate features, I'm Native American and we don't doo well with shorter hair. I have had a pixie before though twice and all my friends loved it and said it made me look younger. But alas I like you prefer my hair longer. It's down to the middle of my back now and getting thicker also growing much faster since starting hrt. Anyway you look great! Wait til you start having trouble with men oggling you. It get's annoying I can tell you that, lol! :laugh: but it does make you feel more feminine.
Are you kidding?! She is a knock out no matter what! <3 <3 <3
Quote from: FilaFord on March 15, 2014, 12:30:32 AM
Yep this is why I am not transitioning. There are some that should (jussmoi4nao) and some that shouldn't (me) and I am not one to interfere with that!
That's not how I see it personally. It fundamentally comes down to need. When you need to transition, you will. It's as simple as that, because humans have very strong survival instincts and if luving as your birth sex compromises your ability to survive, transition becomes as natural as eating, drinking, breathing.
In my opinion, you need to be sure in transition. If you're not then don't worry about it. If it's meant to be, you'll GET sure pretty quick. If it's not you'll learn to live. Pretty simple stuff without mindf-ing.
Quote from: FilaFord on March 14, 2014, 11:44:31 PM
The problem is that I do care... too much. Way too much, in fact!
Pretty much every trans person here cares about themselves, tremendously, enough that he or she decided to do something about it, society be damned.
Quote from: FilaFord on March 14, 2014, 11:44:31 PM
I don't want to get "clocked".
If you ever decide to resume your transition, you will. Regardless of any amount of surgery you might have. That's not an indictment on you, though. If you stand in place long enough, someone in society will clock you. Either they will pick you apart with their minds, try and scare you off with their words, clock you with their vehicles because you're standing in the middle of the highway. That goes for anyone on this planet, natal or not. There is not one single trans person on this planet who isn't aware of his or her lot in life, where he or she fits in with society, and who isn't worried about that 'secret' getting out.
Quote from: FilaFord on March 14, 2014, 11:44:31 PM
I don't want to be seen as anything but a human being.
Oh, you will be seen as a human being, you may just not be liked. Last I checked, we still haven't found any signs of extraterrestrial life. And, don't give me the spill about wanting to be treated like a human being, because God knows how that goes in parts of this world. What you want is to be loved, and honey, whether you transition or not, how you are seen, treated or loved pretty much evens itself out regardless of what side of the fence you are on. You can choose to chew the grass on the other side of the fence, or continue chewing where the last cow pooped.
Quote from: FilaFord on March 14, 2014, 11:44:31 PM
I don't have faith that our (the American) society will accept me, and that is not so much my preconception that others will judge me that way, as much as it is that I judge myself that way.
How you judge yourself, and how you perceive society will judge you, are two different things. One really does not have a causal effect on the other. You take someone who is, literally speaking, in their own world. Nothing that occurs around that person even matters.
Quote from: FilaFord on March 14, 2014, 11:44:31 PM
I'm not physically or mentally ready for such a drastic change, and even though my better judgment (and the judgment of those around me) says that I should not care, I do care. I can't do it. I am not ready to take the step. I guess the massively overwhelming notion is that it's "transition or death" and right now I am not in that mindset.
I like me. I like life. I'm not ready to F*** up everyone else's preconceived notion of what I am just so that I can try and see if transitioning cures what ails me...
I just had a great heart-to-heart with my sister-in-law that my wife outted me to. She told me that she thinks our family will accept me just fine. I agreed with her, but that doesn't change the fact that I am not ready. I wish I was, but I am simply just not ready for other people to start seeing me as something that I don't see myself as...
That quoted part has me wondering how you ended up on HRT in the first place. I'm not a therapist, obviously, but my last therapist (who was following the older WPATH SOC) said that she does not write letters of referral for HRT until that time has come, where the client is 'ready', literally where the client can't stand to be in his or her present skin. I do not want this conversation to turn into a "you're not a transsexual, so why are you here?", but I definitely do wonder how you got past the gatekeeper. I say that out of concern for you, and am wondering about your therapist. I have to warn you though: many therapists, once a situation like this has happened, won't ever give a nod of acceptance for a client's wishes again, and because most are worried about maintaining their license, some will even refer their clients onto someone else. Just be prepared. They don't want their credentials or reputation tainted.
Quote from: FilaFord on March 14, 2014, 11:44:31 PM
I wish it was easier, but it's not. I hate these feelings and living as a male repressing these feelings seems much easier than living as a transwoman who expresses them. I love everyone here. You girls have given me so much courage, but I am not strong enough to pursue this life. I know it should not be a choice, but I am not going to choose to transition anymore. It will choose me if that time comes, but right now that time has not manifested itself yet!
So ..... you do not sound like your classic 'transsexual' case, but that certainly does not exclude you from being under the transgender umbrella. Either you're transgender or completely nuts (no pun intended, lol), or you wouldn't be in this situation in the first place. You can wait this one out, but you will find that the longer things change, the more they stay the same. If those around you, as you perceive them, will not accept you because of some image of yourself that you've planted in their minds, then imagine how much more difficult that mold will be to break later on down the road. If you're doing this to make THEM happy, then bank on nothing changing until they're gone.
While I think this conversation would be more appropriate in the transition forum (or perhaps even the beauty section), let me close by saying this: I had an epiphany, about a month ago, after chewing gaping wounds into both cheeks of my mouth, that I had been spending all these years of my life LIVING OTHER PEOPLES' LIVES. I was making THEM happy, making THEM comfortable, giving THEM what they wanted, and as long as I continued to do those things they (seemingly) treated me with the respect and love I felt I deserved. It was the moment that I decided that playing THEIR game was not a game I wanted to play anymore, that I found who THEY really were. In all that chaos, they made themselves known. Got what they wanted. Living the grand life. Problem is, they didn't know anything about me. Why? Because if they did, all of the above that I said about them would be untrue. So .... it's not really about making yourself out to be a freak that is so upsetting to others, it's them being forced to ponder their own existence and how I have affected their existence, that makes them upset. Ever heard the saying "I Know You Are, But What Am I..."? Do you really know them? Do they really know you? How about all of you just start fresh and get to know each other? Hugs, Kristy :angel:
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 15, 2014, 12:44:58 AM
That's not how I see it personally. It fundamentally comes down to need. When you need to transition, you will. It's as simple as that, because humans have very strong survival instincts and if luving as your birth sex compromises your ability to survive, transition becomes as natural as eating, drinking, breathing.
In my opinion, you need to be sure in transition. If you're not then don't worry about it. If it's meant to be, you'll GET sure pretty quick. If it's not you'll learn to live. Pretty simple stuff without mindf-ing.
Thanks, you explained that way better than I did, or tried to.
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 14, 2014, 11:46:44 PM
Nooo makeup, crappy camera, raggedy oversized comfort hoodie that's seen better days, mcdonalds bag...general ghettoness...aka, I felt like posting a seriously raaw photo haha. Not sure WHAT I pass as in it, but w/e haha
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7033%2F13160011825_e9d47f4394_o.jpg&hash=2111bb6cadcf96d235c8ae0aceb5f5e9c888428d)
WOAH wait wut?
I had to read the rest of the thread to work it out real quick. I thought you were a cisgirl for a good 5 mins until i realised.
Just wow... you look incredibly good. holy crap.
Quote from: Caitlyn on March 12, 2014, 04:20:59 PM
It's been awhile since I posted in this thread lol But I've started to change a few things about myself so I figured I'd post again. I've gotten a bit of a different haircut, more layering, side swept bangs. Also I've been practicing with makeup, and I feel like I'm starting to get the hang of it :) Thoughts?
(https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1240550_1410167405909493_163968964_n.jpg) (https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/1236559_1410167109242856_1991447077_n.jpg) (https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1920019_1410167512576149_1031750241_n.jpg)
You seem to have a very fair face. How about wearing eyeliner and mascara? I guess it will enhance greatly your feminine face.
barbie~~
Do you think i can pass. This is my first attempt at makeup with a cheep wig. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi836.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz289%2Fnms867%2F20140315_010118_zps0ecf2416.jpg&hash=388ff522fc359284efc8939add4256cc8b79a730)
Quote from: dualk87 on March 15, 2014, 01:14:46 AM
Do you think i can pass. This is my first attempt at makeup with a cheep wig. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi836.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz289%2Fnms867%2F20140315_010118_zps0ecf2416.jpg&hash=388ff522fc359284efc8939add4256cc8b79a730)
You have a pretty face, but I'm trying to look at this without thinking it was done on a dare. Try this: take a bandana or a towel and cover up your head. That will take the hair out of the equation. Then, try with some makeup.
Quote from: dualk87 on March 15, 2014, 01:14:46 AM
Do you think i can pass. This is my first attempt at makeup with a cheep wig. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi836.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz289%2Fnms867%2F20140315_010118_zps0ecf2416.jpg&hash=388ff522fc359284efc8939add4256cc8b79a730)
If you got a nice wig, plucked your eyebrows, and had a nice makeup job... you'd likely shock a few folks. ;)
Quote from: dualk87 on March 15, 2014, 01:14:46 AM
Do you think i can pass. This is my first attempt at makeup with a cheep wig. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi836.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz289%2Fnms867%2F20140315_010118_zps0ecf2416.jpg&hash=388ff522fc359284efc8939add4256cc8b79a730)
You'll surely pass in the future. Some makeup and trimming your eybrows will do wonders!
Also, HRT will help you quite a bit too if you choose that way. :)
Quote from: dualk87 on March 15, 2014, 01:14:46 AM
Do you think i can pass. This is my first attempt at makeup with a cheep wig. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi836.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz289%2Fnms867%2F20140315_010118_zps0ecf2416.jpg&hash=388ff522fc359284efc8939add4256cc8b79a730)
Actually, you look fine.
aside from the eyebrows which need trimming :p (so do mine lolz)
I think maybe just try and "rough" that wig up a little... or however you say it xD
Or maybe its just how its cut... idk. i shouldnt be giving advice as ive never even tried to dress up haha.
Quote from: dualk87 on March 15, 2014, 01:14:46 AM
Do you think i can pass. This is my first attempt at makeup with a cheep wig. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi836.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz289%2Fnms867%2F20140315_010118_zps0ecf2416.jpg&hash=388ff522fc359284efc8939add4256cc8b79a730)
My advice, unless your bald lose the wig or get a better one that is a natural hair color ie: blonde, brown, rusty red, black -you get the idea. You have a face that will respond well to hrt.
Am I passing?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2033%2F13165237365_f0a5875ed2_o.png&hash=3a53597384453da9b07c279b846cf38f4f1c4739)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3812%2F13165567913_1047e54bf0_o.png&hash=fe3688d9d435bc0eca3020e3096cd649a881f25a)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7073%2F13165655144_25f2f5f326_o.jpg&hash=a22c9b70fd0669512a60e53596a6dd214fb91743)
barbie~~
Quote from: barbie on March 15, 2014, 07:16:38 AM
Am I passing?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2033%2F13165237365_f0a5875ed2_o.png&hash=3a53597384453da9b07c279b846cf38f4f1c4739)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3812%2F13165567913_1047e54bf0_o.png&hash=fe3688d9d435bc0eca3020e3096cd649a881f25a)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7073%2F13165655144_25f2f5f326_o.jpg&hash=a22c9b70fd0669512a60e53596a6dd214fb91743)
barbie~~
In western culture, you would be. It appears to my eyes that you've found a way to move faster than light. (everything is blurred out except for you, haha). Ever watched the move The Langoliers?
New Pics :D Breast growth has finally started to accelerate, and ive had some comments about growing "man boobs" lol
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAcHAfsP.jpg&hash=015b253b33f59026a85bc6bf469362b2a8995451)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFFCfWBu.jpg&hash=ba6b9cdd1be80db23b11d989eee3cab98c713995)
Weird face :D
Hoping I can eventually pass :D
Quote from: thevaliantx on March 15, 2014, 07:38:38 AM
In western culture, you would be. It appears to my eyes that you've found a way to move faster than light. (everything is blurred out except for you, haha). Ever watched the move The Langoliers?
The problem is that everybody knows that I am biologically male, although all of those aged women in the top photo adore my body shape.
barbie~~
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 14, 2014, 11:46:44 PM
Nooo makeup, crappy camera, raggedy oversized comfort hoodie that's seen better days, mcdonalds bag...general ghettoness...aka, I felt like posting a seriously raaw photo haha. Not sure WHAT I pass as in it, but w/e haha
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7033%2F13160011825_e9d47f4394_o.jpg&hash=2111bb6cadcf96d235c8ae0aceb5f5e9c888428d)
Extremely Jealous. Your not gonna have a single problem passing, heck, you dont now.
Quote from: Tic Est Ipse on March 15, 2014, 08:45:05 AM
Extremely Jealous. Your not gonna have a single problem passing, heck, you dont now.
Haha thankss and welll I'm actually pretty much "fulltime" now tho I dont really agree with the concept personally. I don't generally leave the house looking like I do in that pic, I dress muuch better and do my hair and wear makeup. I just wanted to post something really revealing and raw. I still get gendered female every time looking that way tho soo go figure.
Quote from: Tic Est Ipse on March 15, 2014, 08:31:16 AM
New Pics :D Breast growth has finally started to accelerate, and ive had some comments about growing "man boobs" lol
Weird face :D
Hoping I can eventually pass :D
I think as your hrt progresses you'll be amazed. You have good facial structure and after a year on hrt I think you'll see a few significant changes in your face. I'm only about a week more into my hrt than you are so I understand a little of what your feeling. Just remember hrt takes time and you'll do fine. You are alot younger than me so you have a great advantage in that T hasn't had that long to screw things up.
Quote from: Tic Est Ipse on March 15, 2014, 08:31:16 AM
New Pics :D Breast growth has finally started to accelerate, and ive had some comments about growing "man boobs" lol
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAcHAfsP.jpg&hash=015b253b33f59026a85bc6bf469362b2a8995451)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFFCfWBu.jpg&hash=ba6b9cdd1be80db23b11d989eee3cab98c713995)
Weird face :D
Hoping I can eventually pass :D
You have a very androgyne face already and I bet that it will change even more to your liking in the following months!
New pics, as of yesterday: (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FIlOfclL.jpg&hash=bb2931cdbbc52f6f3143cddc305b4646a72544b1) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FSZVGpha.jpg&hash=c6fd2e48100658347efb1cc1934d3d74b5a13d12)
Quote from: Allyson on March 15, 2014, 03:24:26 PM
New pics, as of yesterday: (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FIlOfclL.jpg&hash=bb2931cdbbc52f6f3143cddc305b4646a72544b1) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FSZVGpha.jpg&hash=c6fd2e48100658347efb1cc1934d3d74b5a13d12)
You'll absolutely pass in the future with a bit of HRT, if you want that, and elctrolysis/laser!
Quote from: 930310 on March 15, 2014, 03:50:22 PM
You'll absolutely pass in the future with a bit of HRT, if you want that, and elctrolysis/laser!
Thanks!! :3 Still waiting on my appointment at the endocrinologist and starting laser on March 25th. I am SO eager!! My voice totally passes too :P
Quote from: Allyson on March 15, 2014, 03:57:19 PM
Thanks!! :3 Still waiting on my appointment at the endocrinologist and starting laser on March 25th. I am SO eager!! My voice totally passes too :P
You know as I was looking at your photo it was almost as if I was looking at a "Before" photo of Jennygirl, there is a huge resemblance which gives me the impression that you are going to do rather well.
Quote from: Allyson on March 15, 2014, 03:57:19 PM
Thanks!! :3 Still waiting on my appointment at the endocrinologist and starting laser on March 25th. I am SO eager!! My voice totally passes too :P
Great! The voice is sometimes the hardest to get right and you're already there! :)
Still pre-everything:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FcyZfDwV.jpg&hash=1cfba38484cf294fec37c1deb4601592cab67fbc)
Chic, your photos are always very passable, but they're also very stylized. If you're comfortable doing, it I suggest posting a less processed, straight-on shot. Our feedback would be more authentic and, frankly, more beneficial to you.
Quote from: m7♭5 on March 15, 2014, 06:51:24 PM
Chic, your photos are always very passable, but they're also very stylized. If you're comfortable doing, it I suggest posting a less processed, straight-on shot. Our feedback would be more authentic and, frankly, more beneficial to you.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgW0CaO8.jpg&hash=9a1d7b8e44a697cf0f101ad1c1207eabf0ad16b2)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FF44JZ6S.jpg&hash=d63347b3a888004fed98ba9d19246247e4b77078)
Much better :)
You have a lovely round, feminine face, and no facial hair whatsoever. The bottom right picture from the upper set suggests you'll pass right away. With right haircut, you'd pass to everone pre-HRT and without question. HRT will make it impossible to "pass" as male.
You've got it, Chic.
Quote from: Chic on March 15, 2014, 07:11:01 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgW0CaO8.jpg&hash=9a1d7b8e44a697cf0f101ad1c1207eabf0ad16b2)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FF44JZ6S.jpg&hash=d63347b3a888004fed98ba9d19246247e4b77078)
You'll absolutely pass. You've got a nice shape on your head.
Chic gets on my list of people I "hate" along with jussmoi4nao. Seriously, you both are insane for doubting your looks
Quote from: RobinTheAmazon on March 16, 2014, 07:54:12 AM
Chic gets on my list of people I "hate" along with jussmoi4nao. Seriously, you both are insane for doubting your looks
Aww sweety, don't compare me to jussmoi4nao! I could never be that gorgeous.
Quote from: Chic on March 16, 2014, 11:10:58 AM
Aww sweety, don't compare me to jussmoi4nao! I could never be that gorgeous.
Everyone is beautiful in their own way Chic. You are pretty, never forget that!
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 14, 2014, 11:46:44 PM
Nooo makeup, crappy camera, raggedy oversized comfort hoodie that's seen better days, mcdonalds bag...general ghettoness...aka, I felt like posting a seriously raaw photo haha. Not sure WHAT I pass as in it, but w/e haha
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7033%2F13160011825_e9d47f4394_o.jpg&hash=2111bb6cadcf96d235c8ae0aceb5f5e9c888428d)
Seriously. You. Must. Be. Joking.
I am thinking of Usain Bolt saying "oh, you know, I don't run that fast"
Quote from: Stella Lunaris on March 17, 2014, 06:12:55 PM
It's been a six month journey, but finally, after all this time, I'm starting estrogen tomorrow >^.^< Hoping for the best, prepared for the worst XD
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/044514f5248101aebb6e805b980933ff/tumblr_n2ic76HZJA1ruqx6po1_500.jpg)
Back up...you're just starting estrogen? Wow, you already look completely cis!
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 17, 2014, 06:20:41 PM
Back up...you're just starting estrogen? Wow, you already look completely cis!
She does indeed!
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on March 17, 2014, 06:20:41 PM
Back up...you're just starting estrogen? Wow, you already look coympletely cis!
Most persons of middle east / asian descent look naturally feminine, in my opinion.
Quote from: Stella Lunaris on March 17, 2014, 06:12:55 PM
It's been a six month journey, but finally, after all this time, I'm starting estrogen tomorrow >^.^< Hoping for the best, prepared for the worst XD
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/044514f5248101aebb6e805b980933ff/tumblr_n2ic76HZJA1ruqx6po1_500.jpg)
Uh, yea, you look cis now!, WoW!!! :) :)
Not a happy day for me, really overwhelming, professor I love saw me wrong, and I've been seeing something that shouldn't be in the mirror all day. Just a pure naked shot, no makeup, just what hormones have done for me here the past 16 months...sigh. Please tell me what I'm seeing in the mirror tonight is really incorrect...that I'm just a normal looking, hopefully cute, if broken girl. Please... :'(
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FRm2IxIA.jpg&hash=a76d7d1eb977565aeb1832a0df119c3feacf601e)
Quote from: Stella Lunaris on March 17, 2014, 06:12:55 PM
It's been a six month journey, but finally, after all this time, I'm starting estrogen tomorrow >^.^< Hoping for the best, prepared for the worst XD
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/044514f5248101aebb6e805b980933ff/tumblr_n2ic76HZJA1ruqx6po1_500.jpg)
estrogen will be quite an interesting experience for you.
Quote from: stephaniec on March 17, 2014, 07:43:20 PM
estrogen will be quite an interesting experience for you.
Why so?
Quote from: Stella Lunaris on March 17, 2014, 06:12:55 PM
It's been a six month journey, but finally, after all this time, I'm starting estrogen tomorrow >^.^< Hoping for the best, prepared for the worst XD
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/044514f5248101aebb6e805b980933ff/tumblr_n2ic76HZJA1ruqx6po1_500.jpg)
You seem to have a nice skill of making the hair style. We call it 'C curl', and I tried it with a heat stylling iron unsuccessfully.
barbie~~
Quote from: Stella Lunaris on March 17, 2014, 06:12:55 PM
It's been a six month journey, but finally, after all this time, I'm starting estrogen tomorrow >^.^< Hoping for the best, prepared for the worst XD
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/044514f5248101aebb6e805b980933ff/tumblr_n2ic76HZJA1ruqx6po1_500.jpg)
...... I hate you.
(Not really, just being jealous:P)
But honestly, this should be on the "you look fab" page rather than the "do I pass" page. I don't even think there's a question of passing!
Quote from: GorJess on March 17, 2014, 07:33:54 PM
Not a happy day for me, really overwhelming, professor I love saw me wrong, and I've been seeing something that shouldn't be in the mirror all day. Just a pure naked shot, no makeup, just what hormones have done for me here the past 16 months...sigh. Please tell me what I'm seeing in the mirror tonight is really incorrect...that I'm just a normal looking, hopefully cute, if broken girl. Please... :'(
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FRm2IxIA.jpg&hash=a76d7d1eb977565aeb1832a0df119c3feacf601e)
I've seen a lot of your pictures and I always think you look very much like a girl. We are our own worse critics. The only thing I think that might help is they way you point your head, a lot of your pictures your doing this looking down or pointing the camera downwards at you. Try a pointing the camera more frontal and turn your head just slightly to the side.
Hope you feel better, people see more then we see. I was taking a picture of myself today which I absolutely hate (I don't think I am very attractive and well I haven't started transitioning yet so maybe I am extra hard on myself) but a lot people think I look pretty good. (but not like handsome but not ugly...) still...Feel better!
Quote from: barbie on March 17, 2014, 11:30:00 PM
You seem to have a nice skill of making the hair style. We call it 'C curl', and I tried it with a heat stylling iron unsuccessfully.
barbie~~
Haha, thanks! I honestly just kind of happens.
Quote from: GorJess on March 17, 2014, 07:33:54 PM
Not a happy day for me, really overwhelming, professor I love saw me wrong, and I've been seeing something that shouldn't be in the mirror all day. Just a pure naked shot, no makeup, just what hormones have done for me here the past 16 months...sigh. Please tell me what I'm seeing in the mirror tonight is really incorrect...that I'm just a normal looking, hopefully cute, if broken girl. Please... :'(
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FRm2IxIA.jpg&hash=a76d7d1eb977565aeb1832a0df119c3feacf601e)
Yep, I see a normal girl in your photo.
Quote from: Stella Lunaris on March 17, 2014, 06:12:55 PM
It's been a six month journey, but finally, after all this time, I'm starting estrogen tomorrow >^.^< Hoping for the best, prepared for the worst XD
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/044514f5248101aebb6e805b980933ff/tumblr_n2ic76HZJA1ruqx6po1_500.jpg)
HRT will surely be very good for you!
Quote from: Stella Lunaris on March 17, 2014, 06:12:55 PM
It's been a six month journey, but finally, after all this time, I'm starting estrogen tomorrow >^.^< Hoping for the best, prepared for the worst XD
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/044514f5248101aebb6e805b980933ff/tumblr_n2ic76HZJA1ruqx6po1_500.jpg)
Amazing! You already look like a girl without even starting hormones.
(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10001555_223090021214730_1693820631_n.jpg)
Makeups been done, I think Im doing well :D That and Ive decided to go full time, (aside from with family and work). All my freinds at school are supportive and I usually got called a girl actually, and crazily enough some double takes by guys as I walk by, that and everyone has accepted me as Ash now :) Lifes pretty well :D
nah you re not doing well
you are doing absolutely great! :)
Quote from: AshleeLC on March 18, 2014, 03:11:17 PM
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Makeups been done, I think Im doing well :D
Oooh Ashlee, I'm speechless! :eusa_clap:
Quote from: AshleeLC on March 18, 2014, 03:11:17 PM
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Makeups been done, I think Im doing well :D That and Ive decided to go full time, (aside from with family and work). All my freinds at school are supportive and I usually got called a girl actually, and crazily enough some double takes by guys as I walk by, that and everyone has accepted me as Ash now :) Lifes pretty well :D
You pass without a doubt! :)
Quote from: Stella Lunaris on March 17, 2014, 06:12:55 PM
It's been a six month journey, but finally, after all this time, I'm starting estrogen tomorrow >^.^< Hoping for the best, prepared for the worst XD
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/044514f5248101aebb6e805b980933ff/tumblr_n2ic76HZJA1ruqx6po1_500.jpg)
Cis girls are just messing with us now, aren't they? OK, who are you really?*giggles* ;D
Quote from: AshleeLC on March 18, 2014, 03:11:17 PM
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Makeups been done, I think Im doing well :D That and Ive decided to go full time, (aside from with family and work). All my freinds at school are supportive and I usually got called a girl actually, and crazily enough some double takes by guys as I walk by, that and everyone has accepted me as Ash now :) Lifes pretty well :D
You're very beautiful.
Quote from: AshleeLC on March 18, 2014, 03:11:17 PM
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Makeups been done, I think Im doing well :D That and Ive decided to go full time, (aside from with family and work). All my freinds at school are supportive and I usually got called a girl actually, and crazily enough some double takes by guys as I walk by, that and everyone has accepted me as Ash now :) Lifes pretty well :D
Woah. Lookin amazing there :D
Starting to think a lot of these photos are of real cis girls to troll us xD So many good looking photos.
Quote from: TotallyAwks on March 18, 2014, 05:57:23 PM
Woah. Lookin amazing there :D
Starting to think a lot of these photos are of real cis girls to troll us xD So many good looking photos.
Lol i can assure you Im not cis, Id love to be though :D
Quote from: AshleeLC on March 18, 2014, 03:11:17 PM
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Makeups been done, I think Im doing well :D That and Ive decided to go full time, (aside from with family and work). All my freinds at school are supportive and I usually got called a girl actually, and crazily enough some double takes by guys as I walk by, that and everyone has accepted me as Ash now :) Lifes pretty well :D
You look tasteful, and will be loved by people.
barbie~~
Yesterday midnight I had a drink with my colleagues.
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One man asked me why I do not wear silk stockings. I replied it is chilly cold at night. The other two girls were criticized because of their poor dress.
I do not know whether I passed, but I used women's restroom.
barbie~~
Barbie, I think the fact that you look so feminine, and probably ooze estrogen as well, and that your face is on the positive side of androgynous, leaves no doubt as to what you are presenting as.
Studies have shown that estrogen clouds the judgement of men, and clears the mind of every trans girl ;)
Quote from: barbie on March 18, 2014, 10:33:08 PM
Yesterday midnight I had a drink with my colleagues.
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One man asked me why I do not wear silk stockings. I replied it is chilly cold at night. The other two girls were criticized because of their poor dress.
I do not know whether I passed, but I used women's restroom.
barbie~~
I wouldn't worry about passing . Your body is perfect for the clothes you wear.
Quote from: thevaliantx on March 18, 2014, 10:52:42 PM
Barbie, I think the fact that you look so feminine, and probably ooze estrogen as well, and that your face is on the positive side of androgynous, leaves no doubt as to what you are presenting as.
Studies have shown that estrogen clouds the judgement of men, and clears the mind of every trans girl ;)
I agree with this -especially the last sentence, lol! ;)
Quote from: thevaliantx on March 18, 2014, 10:52:42 PM
Barbie, I think the fact that you look so feminine, and probably ooze estrogen as well, and that your face is on the positive side of androgynous, leaves no doubt as to what you are presenting as.
Studies have shown that estrogen clouds the judgement of men, and clears the mind of every trans girl ;)
Thanks! Valiantx, Stephanie and Allyda,
I do not know the level of estrogen in my body, but passing now becomes another matter. People accept my wearing miniskirt too well. Even my graduate students do. Nowadays I am a little bit confused. They all know me and my family very well. Do they consider me as a man or a woman? Which restroom do I have better to enter?
I do not know what point I will ever reach. So far, people accept me too well.
barbie~~
Quote from: barbie on March 18, 2014, 10:33:08 PM
Yesterday midnight I had a drink with my colleagues.
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One man asked me why I do not wear silk stockings. I replied it is chilly cold at night. The other two girls were criticized because of their poor dress.
I do not know whether I passed, but I used women's restroom.
barbie~~
You pass Barbie. Have some faith in yourself.
Quote from: barbie on March 18, 2014, 10:33:08 PM
Yesterday midnight I had a drink with my colleagues.
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One man asked me why I do not wear silk stockings. I replied it is chilly cold at night. The other two girls were criticized because of their poor dress.
I do not know whether I passed, but I used women's restroom.
barbie~~
So ...... Barbie .... we're all dying to know. When are going to give into yourself, and update your signature to say "Pre-HRT"? :angel:
Quote from: thevaliantx on March 19, 2014, 04:11:17 AM
So ...... Barbie .... we're all dying to know. When are going to give into yourself, and update your signature to say "Pre-HRT"? :angel:
Yes. I once tried HRT, but the doctor refused it because I have family. But he said he will do if I visit again with my wife and she consents to it. Nowadays I think I may not need HRT for my happy life.
barbie~~
Quote from: barbie on March 19, 2014, 04:16:27 PM
Yes. I once tried HRT, but the doctor refused it because I have family. But he said he will do if I visit again with my wife and she consents to it. Nowadays I think I may not need HRT for my happy life.
barbie~~
with HRT I'm guessing you'd look phenomenal .
Quote from: barbie on March 19, 2014, 04:16:27 PM
Yes. I once tried HRT, but the doctor refused it because I have family. But he said he will do if I visit again with my wife and she consents to it. Nowadays I think I may not need HRT for my happy life.
barbie~~
I actually believed that you had been on HRT for several years when I saw your pictures. If you ever go on HRT you will look amazingly amazing.
I don't think this issue, for Barbie, is as much about the potential of HRT as it is about weighing the losses as a result of going on HRT against the benefits of staying away from it.
Maybe we should cheer her on. Bar-bee! Bar-bee! :D
Quote from: thevaliantx on March 19, 2014, 05:46:08 PM
I don't think this issue, for Barbie, is as much about the potential of HRT as it is about weighing the losses as a result of going on HRT against the benefits of staying away from it.
Maybe we should cheer her on. Bar-bee! Bar-bee! :D
Good call, I'm for that and understand her concerns intimately. Being an avid Barbie fan myself I think she's terrific without it.
Quote from: AshleeLC on March 18, 2014, 03:11:17 PM
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Makeups been done, I think Im doing well :D That and Ive decided to go full time, (aside from with family and work). All my freinds at school are supportive and I usually got called a girl actually, and crazily enough some double takes by guys as I walk by, that and everyone has accepted me as Ash now :) Lifes pretty well :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F1zzri4j.jpg&hash=85bcaaf4b219dcababdfa0ffd7bd6c571a00b0fd)
Quote from: AshleeLC on March 18, 2014, 03:11:17 PM
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Makeups been done, I think Im doing well :D That and Ive decided to go full time, (aside from with family and work). All my freinds at school are supportive and I usually got called a girl actually, and crazily enough some double takes by guys as I walk by, that and everyone has accepted me as Ash now :) Lifes pretty well :D
Girl, I dont see a man here at all, i see 100% a young woman!
Quote from: AshleeLC on March 18, 2014, 03:11:17 PM
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Makeups been done, I think Im doing well :D That and Ive decided to go full time, (aside from with family and work). All my freinds at school are supportive and I usually got called a girl actually, and crazily enough some double takes by guys as I walk by, that and everyone has accepted me as Ash now :) Lifes pretty well :D
Ohhmegoshh, so preeetty! And your makeup looks fantastic btw, it really suits you. So does that hair. Vury naaice
Quote from: thevaliantx on March 19, 2014, 05:46:08 PM
I don't think this issue, for Barbie, is as much about the potential of HRT as it is about weighing the losses as a result of going on HRT against the benefits of staying away from it.
Maybe we should cheer her on. Bar-bee! Bar-bee! :D
Thanks! Yes. Some people say like that.
A few of my friends are doctor, and they are indeed supportive of me, as we have maintained friendship since my teens. But they do not recommend HRT to me, as they know my wife and kids very well. Also, the physician, who underwent several hundred cases of SRS, recommended me not to get HRT, although the psychiatrist approved it. He said I can enjoy my lifestyle without HRT.
barbie~~
Quote from: barbie on March 20, 2014, 02:18:38 AM
Thanks! Yes. Some people say like that.
A few of my friends are doctor, and they are indeed supportive of me, as we have maintained friendship since my teens. But they do not recommend HRT to me, as they know my wife and kids very well. Also, the physician, who underwent several hundred cases of SRS, recommended me not to get HRT, although the psychiatrist approved it. He said I can enjoy my lifestyle without HRT.
barbie~~
WoW Barbie I thought you were on hrt. You go girl! you look great without it!
Quote from: Allyda on March 20, 2014, 03:48:48 AM
WoW Barbie I thought you were on hrt. You go girl! you look great without it!
yes, totally agree, I wish I could get away with wearing mini skirts
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FsCBQdOt.jpg&hash=abe3ec38ff68037bac2ec6899aa4467d44cb0137) 7 months Hrt no makeup just bumming it. I know its not the best pic but how do I look? :)
As I posted on another topic...I finaly bought a wig and female clothes...so...how bad am I? Can I pass at least a bit?
Please, sincere opinions...I already know about my nose and the need of FFS, that will probably be afforded by my grandparents....they accepetd me after all...
I would like opinions about the hairstyle and other things I can change.
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I am so depressed because I lost my mother...and I decided to let Natalia out and try to be free...it's beem so hard, but at the same time I felt good being myself.
Quote from: Natalia on March 20, 2014, 10:32:06 PM
As I posted on another topic...I finaly bought a wig and female clothes...so...how bad am I? Can I pass at least a bit?
Please, sincere opinions...I already know about my nose and the need of FFS, that will probably be afforded by my grandparents....they accepetd me after all...
I would like opinions about the hairstyle and other things I can change.
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I am so depressed because I lost my mother...and I decided to let Natalia out and try to be free...it's beem so hard, but at the same time I felt good being myself.
I'm glad your grandfather is going to help
Quote from: Natalia on March 20, 2014, 10:32:06 PM
As I posted on another topic...I finaly bought a wig and female clothes...so...how bad am I? Can I pass at least a bit?
Please, sincere opinions...I already know about my nose and the need of FFS, that will probably be afforded by my grandparents....they accepetd me after all...
I would like opinions about the hairstyle and other things I can change.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2484%2F140.jpg&hash=0935974b00230af08210e1aae9380cf77728092d)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2484%2F141.jpg&hash=62e7a89b0da9c4a25b79043f401b99fe51b4950e)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2484%2F142.jpg&hash=9d86f65b91fcbd310a87ecdb11486e72a71c23b7)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2484%2F143.jpg&hash=4b9a824c40f179f66e71aae3123d1639ec91cc8b)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2484%2F144.jpg&hash=9aee6a71100de3157b9fca0569c57982e365776d)
I am so depressed because I lost my mother...and I decided to let Natalia out and try to be free...it's beem so hard, but at the same time I felt good being myself.
You look nice and quite feminine Natalia. In my opinion, the middle photo has the best hairstyle and gives you an overall softer look. I think the lighter color shirt shows off your facial features more. However I'd try and find something feminine in the lighter colors. That looks like a man's T shirt your wearing.
Although, I'm constantly wearing those same kind of tanks your wearing in photo 2.
So happy to hear your Grandparents are going to accept you for who you are.
I absolutely loooove that necklace your wearing in the first photo.
Currently I am pre-everything so this is more of a do I have a decent chance of passing with just HRT or will I need FFS? I have my first therapy session in about 3 weeks and a doctor's appointment (specialty in trans* care) the following week.
Sorry for the poor image lighting; I am currently working out of state (for 2 more weeks) so I am using my cell phone and poor lighting.
Will the veins on my forehead be a major issue or is that something that gets hidden by fat redistribution during HRT?
(I hope the images post properly)
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Edit: I think I fixed the images...
I think you will do just fine you look cute in the first pic and I am so jealous of your hair.
Quote from: xponentialshift on March 21, 2014, 02:40:34 AM
Currently I am pre-everything so this is more of a do I have a decent chance of passing with just HRT or will I need FFS? I have my first therapy session in about 3 weeks and a doctor's appointment (specialty in trans* care) the following week.
Sorry for the poor image lighting; I am currently working out of state (for 2 more weeks) so I am using my cell phone and poor lighting.
Will the veins on my forehead be a major issue or is that something that gets hidden by fat redistribution during HRT?
(I hope the images post properly)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPjJ5GWL.jpg&hash=bd0c0c5fd06abd534678642fb6edfa675dc66b4a)
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Edit: I think I fixed the images...
It's hard to tell so early on if you'll need FFS. But from what I can see you are in a great position to start with and you have lovely hair!
Quote from: Natalia on March 20, 2014, 10:32:06 PM
As I posted on another topic...I finaly bought a wig and female clothes...so...how bad am I? Can I pass at least a bit?
Please, sincere opinions...I already know about my nose and the need of FFS, that will probably be afforded by my grandparents....they accepetd me after all...
I would like opinions about the hairstyle and other things I can change.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2484%2F140.jpg&hash=0935974b00230af08210e1aae9380cf77728092d)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2484%2F141.jpg&hash=62e7a89b0da9c4a25b79043f401b99fe51b4950e)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2484%2F142.jpg&hash=9d86f65b91fcbd310a87ecdb11486e72a71c23b7)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2484%2F143.jpg&hash=4b9a824c40f179f66e71aae3123d1639ec91cc8b)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2484%2F144.jpg&hash=9aee6a71100de3157b9fca0569c57982e365776d)
I am so depressed because I lost my mother...and I decided to let Natalia out and try to be free...it's beem so hard, but at the same time I felt good being myself.
Not bad at all! You look very female in most of your pictures and the only thing that I can see needs work is, as you've already mentioned, your nose. You'll do absolutely great!
Quote from: Emily.T on March 21, 2014, 03:08:33 AM
I think you will do just fine you look cute in the first pic and I am so jealous of your hair.
Thanks! I haven't touched my hair in about a year... I could probably use some sort of trim whether presenting as male or female...
Quote from: 930310 on March 21, 2014, 03:24:28 AM
Not bad at all! You look very female in most of your pictures and the only thing that I can see needs work is, as you've already mentioned, your nose. You'll do absolutely great!
Thank you! ^^ I don't know why, perhaps I have much in common with LtL, and I see poeple telling me that I am looking more feminine...but somehow I can't see it....I look at myself and still see a boy with a wig :/
Quote from: Allyda on March 21, 2014, 12:57:33 AM
You look nice and quite feminine Natalia. In my opinion, the middle photo has the best hairstyle and gives you an overall softer look. I think the lighter color shirt shows off your facial features more. However I'd try and find something feminine in the lighter colors. That looks like a man's T shirt your wearing.
Although, I'm constantly wearing those same kind of tanks your wearing in photo 2.
So happy to hear your Grandparents are going to accept you for who you are.
I absolutely loooove that necklace your wearing in the first photo.
Thank you Allyda! ^^
I'm struggling with my "new hair", it's hard to keep it styled in one way, because it wants to be divided on the middle, no matter what. I found some hair clips and they saved me!
Indeed the pink t-shirt was found on the masculine section, but I liked the pronounced V neck and found it kind of feminine...but probably it is more like a masculine homssexual t-shirt lol. I am still too afraid of buying really feminine clothing...
I bought a feminine t-shirt saying it would be for my mother, but when I got home I realized it wasn't too feminine... :-\
The tank is great, but it is a compressive tank, so it flattens my breasts...not very feminine too lol
Someday I'll go shopping and I'll buy feminine clothes once for all! For the wig I had to call the vendor and tell her "hey...I am actually a trans woman and I need a feminine wig...can I try some on a very private place?". But she was really kind with me and even encouraged me to go out with the wig!
I borrowed some of my moms jewerly...the necklace was hers. She had some very beautiful necklaces and I pretend to wear them all the time.
And one VERY important question...I know normally most of the messages here are very helpful to boost our self esteem...but I want to know the real and crude truth. Can I pass this way? Sure, I still need to style my hair better and learn proper make-up (I was trying adding an eyeliner...but I couldn't make it look good)...but I really want to know...what are my chances of passing the way I am looking right now? Please, you can say the truth...I just don't want to go out and think I can pass when actually I can't.
Quote from: Caitlyn on March 14, 2014, 01:20:27 PM
I think you look great! :) Grow your hair out and everything will be just amazing.
Thanks you Caitlyn and Jimmy so much for the kind words I am most definately happy with my appearance. Well my face at least.
Here's a picture of me with dry hair. I actually have longish hair and i'm trying to grow it out.
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Quote from: Two Bodies/Same Soul on March 21, 2014, 09:23:11 AM
Thanks you Caitlyn and Jimmy so much for the kind words I am most definately happy with my appearance. Well my face at least.
Here's a picture of me with dry hair. I actually have longish hair and i'm trying to grow it out.
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You seem a bit down and unhappy in your picture. Try smiling a bit more!
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on March 21, 2014, 09:32:55 AM
Natalia, I dont want to sound cliche, but, dammit, smile! Your pictures did remind of women I have met in my real life or seen somewhere (TV?, dunno, cant remember) - but Your "type" resembles them quite closely, And once You will stop looking deeply
concerned about fate of universe and humanity in particular, You will start shining :).
Thank you Emily...I know, smiling is essential...my previous avatar pic with a virtual wig was good because I was happy.
But I think I am just feeling so down lately because of my mother that I don't even know how I am being able to write here...one of the few things that are keeping me alive, besides the need of caring for my grandparents, is the strong will I have to transition.
I'll see if I can post better pics later, perhaps even today...I am feeling a bigger urge to transition to Natália...perhaps this is a way of trying to forget my past as a boy and all the tragedies that got me. Thank you for the advices (and by the way, as I keep saying, you are looking very cute ^^)
Quote from: xponentialshift on March 21, 2014, 02:40:34 AM
Currently I am pre-everything so this is more of a do I have a decent chance of passing with just HRT or will I need FFS? I have my first therapy session in about 3 weeks and a doctor's appointment (specialty in trans* care) the following week.
Sorry for the poor image lighting; I am currently working out of state (for 2 more weeks) so I am using my cell phone and poor lighting.
Will the veins on my forehead be a major issue or is that something that gets hidden by fat redistribution during HRT?
(I hope the images post properly)
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Edit: I think I fixed the images...
No you have a darling face to begin with, great cheek bones, nice smile! I don't know about the veins, but you'll probably want to have a hairstyle that diminishes your forehead somewhat anyway, so the veins in conjunction with HRT may become a moot point!
Sorry, I don't have a hosting account, but would love to hear what you folks think of my profile picture.
I'm not digging my glasses anymore. They just don't seem right.
Thanks!
Quote from: Emily King on March 21, 2014, 10:57:06 AM
Sorry, I don't have a hosting account, but would love to hear what you folks think of my profile picture.
I'm not digging my glasses anymore. They just don't seem right.
Thanks!
I'll starting giving my opinions too...but don't take them too serious because I am not a very good critic :)
I think your face have a round and very feminine shape and you have nice cheeks! The only thing that says "masculine" to me is your high hairline and forehead, but I am sure that with a proper wig or hair advancement you will loook great! I don't know if you are on HRT, but it can help you recovering a bit of your hairline.
It looks for me that your hair have a good lenght, but it is all behind your head. Try to bring your hair forward and style it! You'll be great!
Quote from: Natalia on March 20, 2014, 10:32:06 PM
As I posted on another topic...I finaly bought a wig and female clothes...so...how bad am I? Can I pass at least a bit?
Please, sincere opinions...I already know about my nose and the need of FFS, that will probably be afforded by my grandparents....they accepetd me after all...
I would like opinions about the hairstyle and other things I can change.
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I am so depressed because I lost my mother...and I decided to let Natalia out and try to be free...it's beem so hard, but at the same time I felt good being myself.
I think you fit well inside the spectrum of the female side of the human species
I had my eyebrows shaped the other day I asked for something more feminine constructive comments please.
This is before
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This is after
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Quote from: Emily.T on March 21, 2014, 03:15:50 PM
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A big improvement! Maybe a little thinner next time, they still look a bit thick.
So I'm looking for some brutal honesty here. Should I look into FFS for my brow, hairline advancement, and cheekbones? What about rhinoplasty for my nose? I know I'll need a trachea shave eventually, fortunately that is covered by insurance. FFS however is not. So I'd like input on whether I'd see some huge improvements with any FFS procedures so I can plan on saving up for them now.
2 frontal and profile shots in different lighting:
(These are in male mode intentionally as I want to show how I look without makeup or contouring)
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I ask about the hairline because this is what it looks like pulled back:
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Here's how it looked several years ago when I had it long:
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I'm really hoping HRT will turn out great for me (only 2 weeks into it) and makes FFS unnecessary. But some days I just have my doubts and have a hard time even catching a glimpse of the girl under the mask... :-\
@Alaia
Im sure that with hrt you ll be able to pass ,,,
you can do the forehead work and hairline lowering for better results, but your face has a lot of feminine qualities :)
Quote from: FalsePrincess on March 21, 2014, 08:07:34 PM
@Alaia
Im sure that with hrt you ll be able to pass ,,,
you can do the forehead work and hairline lowering for better results, but your face has a lot of feminine qualities :)
It looks like you'll do fine, maybe a nose job for extra benefit , but maybe not necessary
Quote from: stephaniec on March 21, 2014, 02:14:47 PM
I think you fit well inside the spectrum of the female side of the human species
Thank you Stephanie! You always have an interesting way of saying things :)
Alaia: Your face looks similar to mine. HRT may move your soft tissues in a way that eventually will end up looking female. Mostly genetics, only time will tell. Your forehead is like mine, very "manly" but could potentially be hidden with a bangs sort of hairstyle. Be patient, I know the FFS docs say go for it but some people may get significant changes in soft tissue placement and shape from HRT.
This is why young men have better results from HRT alone.
Quote from: Natalia on March 21, 2014, 11:04:17 AM
I'll starting giving my opinions too...but don't take them too serious because I am not a very good critic :)
I think your face have a round and very feminine shape and you have nice cheeks! The only thing that says "masculine" to me is your high hairline and forehead, but I am sure that with a proper wig or hair advancement you will loook great! I don't know if you are on HRT, but it can help you recovering a bit of your hairline.
It looks for me that your hair have a good lenght, but it is all behind your head. Try to bring your hair forward and style it! You'll be great!
Thank you!
My hair hasn't changed too much since high school.
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I've always had very fine, white hair. I need to start playing with it more, I guess I'm more use to it being in back from work, and not going out much.
I started hrt eight months ago!
Alaia, that is about how my hairline is when I pull my hair back and really bums me out thinking about it when considering transitioning, but as False Princess said your face actually comes already looks pretty feminine I think you'll do fine.
Thank you all for the replies! And you are all too kind saying my face looks feminine already. But hey, I'll take the compliments even if I don't buy it :D
Quote from: FalsePrincess on March 21, 2014, 08:07:34 PM
@Alaia
Im sure that with hrt you ll be able to pass ,,,
you can do the forehead work and hairline lowering for better results, but your face has a lot of feminine qualities :)
Yeah, I was thinking I'll probably at least end up going for forehead contouring along with a hairline advancement, probably a brow lift too.
Quote from: stephaniec on March 21, 2014, 08:16:13 PM
It looks like you'll do fine, maybe a nose job for extra benefit , but maybe not necessary
See, I'm iffy on the nose. I really don't think it's that bad and only brought it up because others have mentioned it before. I'll probably hold off on doing a rhinoplasty until after I've seen what my face is like after the forehead contouring.
Quote from: Gandalf on March 21, 2014, 09:02:08 PM
Alaia: Your face looks similar to mine. HRT may move your soft tissues in a way that eventually will end up looking female. Mostly genetics, only time will tell. Your forehead is like mine, very "manly" but could potentially be hidden with a bangs sort of hairstyle. Be patient, I know the FFS docs say go for it but some people may get significant changes in soft tissue placement and shape from HRT.
This is why young men have better results from HRT alone.
Well most likely I'm going to be forced to be patient out of necessity. I'm guessing it'll take me a couple years to even save up for all of this. So hopefully HRT does work its wonders in the meantime.
Quote from: Aina on March 21, 2014, 10:38:13 PM
Alaia, that is about how my hairline is when I pull my hair back and really bums me out thinking about it when considering transitioning, but as False Princess said your face actually comes already looks pretty feminine I think you'll do fine.
Yeah, my hairline is what has me really bummed out as well. I may reclaim some of it on HRT though so fingers crossed. ;)
Quote from: Alaia on March 21, 2014, 08:05:06 PM
So I'm looking for some brutal honesty here. Should I look into FFS for my brow, hairline advancement, and cheekbones? What about rhinoplasty for my nose? I know I'll need a trachea shave eventually, fortunately that is covered by insurance. FFS however is not. So I'd like input on whether I'd see some huge improvements with any FFS procedures so I can plan on saving up for them now.
2 frontal and profile shots in different lighting:
(These are in male mode intentionally as I want to show how I look without makeup or contouring)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lVvf7nJ3QnY/UyzaLa3qRjI/AAAAAAAAAMI/SIFUxvq29Kg/w649-h865-no/20140320-2.JPG)(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-b_ShRO4F97g/UyzaW5LhGBI/AAAAAAAAAMQ/GkBBqeTpzqE/w649-h865-no/20140320-9.JPG)
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I ask about the hairline because this is what it looks like pulled back:
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Here's how it looked several years ago when I had it long:
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I'm really hoping HRT will turn out great for me (only 2 weeks into it) and makes FFS unnecessary. But some days I just have my doubts and have a hard time even catching a glimpse of the girl under the mask... :-\
It's impossible to tell so early on. You have a fem/andro face now and maybe hormones will make FFS unneccessary. Anyways, I hope the best for you!
Quote from: 930310 on March 21, 2014, 09:53:38 AM
You seem a bit down and unhappy in your picture. Try smiling a bit more!
Yeah I suppose I do seem a little gloomy don't I. Today I tried rubbing in some liquid makeup that my mother had in the linen closet. Here are the results.
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Quote from: Alaia on March 21, 2014, 08:05:06 PM
So I'm looking for some brutal honesty here. Should I look into FFS for my brow, hairline advancement, and cheekbones? What about rhinoplasty for my nose? I know I'll need a trachea shave eventually, fortunately that is covered by insurance. FFS however is not. So I'd like input on whether I'd see some huge improvements with any FFS procedures so I can plan on saving up for them now.
I'm really hoping HRT will turn out great for me (only 2 weeks into it) and makes FFS unnecessary. But some days I just have my doubts and have a hard time even catching a glimpse of the girl under the mask... :-\
Yes, give the HRT time to do its thing. You'll have a better idea in about six months. Maybe shape your eyebrows a bit and with a bit of hair styling you will be able to frame your face well. I have to say you have a wonderful jawline and from what I can see beautiful hands/fingers!
Yesterday on Saturday.
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People in the street are no issue for me. Both men and women shout that I am too tall as a woman. My friends know that I am a dad, but some of them confess that they are still confused.
barbie~~
Quote from: barbie on March 22, 2014, 04:00:44 PM
Yesterday on Saturday.
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People in the street are no issue for me. Both men and women shout that I am too tall as a woman. My friends know that I am a dad, but some of them confess that they are still confused.
barbie~~
your quite the unique indiidual
Quote from: stephaniec on March 22, 2014, 04:46:58 PM
your quite the unique indiidual
Yes. Many people said I am very unique, but they accept my appearance and feminine manner too well. Far better than I expected.
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barbie~~
Bicycles!!! 8) I love bicycles!!! Oh, and nice legs Barbie :) You are always lookin' great
Hugs
Quote from: V M on March 24, 2014, 12:49:05 AM
Bicycles!!! 8) I love bicycles!!! Oh, and nice legs Barbie :) You are always lookin' great
Hugs
Yes. I once enjoyed cycling, but it took too much time from me. I need to take care of my kids in weekends. Instead I run nearly every day.
I have many friends who enjoy cycling and mountain biking. Yesterday I had dinner and several rounds of drinking together with the members of a local bicycle club here.
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barbie~~
Quote from: Two Bodies/Same Soul on March 22, 2014, 02:25:03 PM
Yeah I suppose I do seem a little gloomy don't I. Today I tried rubbing in some liquid makeup that my mother had in the linen closet. Here are the results.
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Much better!
Hey all, another few update photos.
This weekend was the first time I went out in proper female mode! It was a friends housewarming party and almost all my friends and some family were there, so I thought "what the hell!"
Some people took photos of me while I was out, first time I have not been posing for my own girl mode photos, so hopefully they are a bit more "natural" looking.
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(Me eyeing up the huge pile of cakes on the counter...Is it just me...or do the hormones make chocolate soooo much better!?)
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(The infamous "What!? Nooooo I was doing noooothing!...why are you taking a photo of me!?)
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(I don't really know why, but I really like this photo, even if I am looking sad and daydreamy, it's the most natural photo of me in girl mode out there. I can also hazard a guess as to what I was thinking at the time, and somebody catching it on camera is strangely touching...can you guess what I was thinking?)
Best part of the night? I was surrounded by people drinking various forms of alcohol, and I didn't touch a drop. I REALLY wanted to, but I resisted :)
It was a good weekend.
Thoughts/criticism welcome! <3
Danniella, you look really cute and so natural in these pictures!
Well, here's another try. This is just a boy mode shot, but my eyebrows are groomed a bit, and my hair is partly covering my forehead.
Can you see a woman in there?
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Quote from: RobinTheAmazon on March 24, 2014, 07:10:42 AM
Well, here's another try. This is just a boy mode shot, but my eyebrows are groomed a bit, and my hair is partly covering my forehead.
Can you see a woman in there?
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Definitely see a woman with plenty of potential. You have nice face and I wish I had your lips! Would love to see you when you decide to wear makeup. :)
Quote from: RobinTheAmazon on March 24, 2014, 05:46:26 AM
Danniella, you look really cute and so natural in these pictures!
Thanks <3 All that time in female mode at home is paying off with my body language etc
...
Now I just need to remember and turn it off when I am in guy mode...got some strange looks when I was at the super market the other day, suddenly realised I was walking with my full female presentation movements! xD
Quote from: AlyssaL on March 24, 2014, 09:21:41 AM
Hey Danniella,
You look great! I too love your third picture, it just sees so real and you look super cute!
I know what you mean about girl mode at home helping. I have been dressing almost every night at home for the past month and a half. I feel much more comfortable when I am out as Alyssa now. I still need to work on how I walk, talk, and stand, but it is coming along.
Last night when I was at my moms for dinner, I crossed my legs like a girl and immediately realized what I was doing... This double life things is tough.
Alyssa
Thanks ^^#
Yup the double life is haaaaaaard.
Worst thing I have done in terms of crossed wires so far was actually the morning after the party these were taken at. I was half way through my errands on the high street when I realised that I had completely forgotten to take off my BRIGHT RED NAIL POLISH!! xD
I'm pretty sure that if I had slammed my hands into my pockets with any more force, I would have torn a couple extra leg holes in my jeans! D:
Luckly my sister came to the rescue, and a couple minutes in a restroom stall later I was ready to go...still...can't help but go over all the times I handed over money or picked things up off shelves in front of people and wondering how many noticed ^^#
Quote from: samantha.mich on March 24, 2014, 09:03:58 AM
Definitely see a woman with plenty of potential. You have nice face and I wish I had your lips! Would love to see you when you decide to wear makeup. :)
Aw, thanks. I'll post a pic as soon as I can do a makeup job that doesn't look like a four year old in Mommy's makeup.
Quote from: AlyssaL on March 24, 2014, 09:43:19 AM
Danniella - What bothered you about having the nail polish on in guy mode? Was it fear of people seeing you or was it fear of someone you know finding out? The reason I ask is that I love nail polish and hate having to take it off after less that 24 hours. I have started to leave it on over the weekend and if I have to go out in public, so be it. For me, I am just afraid that people I work with or my family I haven't told yet will find out.
Your sister sounds awesome by the way.
Alyssa
Hmmm...good question actually, I don't really know 0.o
Everybody in my life is aware I'm trans...and I'm not bothered what strangers think...maybe I didn't want some stranger questioning me on it and causing me grief or ruining my good day?? Maybe it's residual social programming??
Hmmm, I shall have to meditate on that question more to figure out my reasons why ^^
My sister is pretty awesome :) It took her a while to come round, but now that she understands it, she has been great. After rescuing me via the emergency nail polish delivery, she took me clothes shopping, because she is VERY fashion concious and just REFUSES to have me dress incorrectly :D (all in a jesting manner ofc)
But in all seriousness (I know hard right?) She has been amazing, I've really been able to bounce outfit and make-up ideas etc off of her and she can tell me in advance what will and wont work, what cuts and colours to avoid or search for etc. I'm learning so much so quickly with her.
I'm an artist by trade, so I love to experiment with compositions, fabrics, materials and colours in general. So I am really enjoying doing so with my clothing (guys clothing always bored me to tears)
I'm actually planning to start some courses on clothing alterations etc to take this to the next level, so together with her fashion savvy and my creative juices, I look forward to really pushing the envelope on what I can and can't get away with!
You never know, maybe their is a market for trans friendly clothing :D
Quote from: barbie on March 22, 2014, 04:00:44 PM
Yesterday on Saturday.
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People in the street are no issue for me. Both men and women shout that I am too tall as a woman. My friends know that I am a dad, but some of them confess that they are still confused.
barbie~~
Looking good girl!
Just in case anyone cares. Yes, the weight is coming off slowly and is the best thing I can do. I'm 6'3, 411 lbs. that's down from 435 in November.
Quote from: AlyssaL on March 24, 2014, 10:37:59 AM
Danniella - You are very luck to have someone like that in your life. I am sure her fashion savy will be more than invaluable over the next couple of years till you develop your own style... then it might be annoying :P
Indeeeeed, I shall have to monitor her closely...I SHALL NOT BE YOUR DRESS UP DOLL FOREVER SISTER! -shakes fist-
Quote from: AlyssaL on March 24, 2014, 10:37:59 AM
My Wife is not a girly girl, so she has no interest in makeup, jewelry, and little interest in clothes. I am working on developing my own style, but it is hard with 33 years guy mode under my belt. I too have never had an interest in men's clothing (I always wore the same styles, just refreshing the wardrobe every few years), but when it comes to women's clothes the sky is the limit. The hard part for me is I see clothes that I love, but never know if it will actually look good on my frame.
There is definitely a market for Trans-friendly clothes :)
Alyssa
Ah that's a shame, my wife and I were together for 10 years and she was quite a girly girl, so I used to enjoy going shopping with her, picking out clothes/make up etc, and I always loved watching her get ready in the mornings...at the time she used to say "It's so great that I can do all these things with you that normal guys would just get bored with or just leave me alone for!" Ofc in hind sight it's like ... "Ooooooooh...now I get it" and suddenly it's a baaaaaaaad thing...suddenly it makes her uncoooomfortable...stupid relationships >.>
Aaaaaanyway, at least all that time watching/helping her gave me a pretty good head start on things, I already knew how to pick clothes for my body shape and do make-up before I even knew I was trans xD
I put together the outfit in those pictures and was very pleased with it (and the reactions it got) ^^
Allot of science went into that getup >.>
So I figured this would be a good follow up to the guy mode pictures I posted Friday. I had some time alone over the weekend and wanted to see how well I could style my hair now that it is getting longer. I struggled with it as it was my first time curling my hair, but the results were much better than I expected:
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And the duckface... sorry, couldn't resist :D
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Now it's just the waiting game for HRT to add to my curves in addition to toning my shoulder and arm muscles down :)
Quote from: AlyssaL on March 24, 2014, 11:46:53 AM
Is it weird that one of my fantasies is to be someone dress up doll? :)
No weirder than some of the other fantasies I have encountered in my time xD
Quote from: AlyssaL on March 24, 2014, 11:46:53 AM
Other than lipstick I cannot ever remember watching my wife put on any makeup. She also is not a big fan of shopping (more then get in, get out approach). She has approved (and disapproved) some of my outfits, but for the most part I go it alone. One of the hardest parts about this process is that I have such a muted style as a guy that it carries over to my girl outfits. I tend to avoid anything "flamboyant", but in my mind that is like 90% of the clothes out there. Social programming I guess. I hope to overcome this as time goes on.
If you are wanting to spice up fairly muted outfits etc I would highly recommend accessories! :D
The outfit I am wearing in those pictures is almost all black, basic clothing, bar the red scarf, that I used to accentuate the waist, and the gold jewelry, to draw the eye from the shoulders towards the waist/hip.
Having a good base of fairly "plain" clothing is a great place to start with, that way you can completely change an outfit just by how you choose to dress it up/down or add splashes of colour.
Give it a try! You can go into any random highstreet store and get a bunch of costume jewelry to experiment with very cheaply, you don't even need to worry about sizes or cuts for once :D And even if something does not work, at least you haven't wasted lots on an expensive top etc, and it can still potentially work with another outfit in the future.
I also love that you can always afford to treat yourself to a wee piece of cheap statement jewelry or scarf etc, that is used correctly, can easily change an outfit entirely. For those months where money is tight ;)
Quote from: AlyssaL on March 24, 2014, 11:46:53 AM
I am sorry to hear about your marriage. Do you have any children together?
To be honest, I do not know if mine will survive the process, but I am hopeful. Unfortunately, like you, it is something I need for myself. I hate how selfish it makes me feel at times, but I know it is the good kind of selfish, if there is such a thing.
Alyssa
Alas no children unfortunately...I am sterile :( Even before I started HRT. But as much as it sucks, at least it has made the separation easier in that regard.
We broke up because she was lying to me really. She was saying "I still love you. We will stay together, we can work this out etc etc"...all the while she was seeing other men behind my back and planning her get out strategy. When I found out (via knowing something was up, she was a terrible liar, hacking her accounts, much to my shame, and discovering that she was involved with online sex rings) she acted like it was the most normal thing in the world, even going so far as to say to me multiple times that she had "done nothing wrong" and that I was the one who had "Lied to her my whole life"...
It was pretty brutal, and completely ruined me mentally...hence my suiciiiiiiide attempt
-shrug-
I didn't realize it at the time, but I know now that I deserve better than that, hence why it's over and I am moving on...even if she does suddenly still want me in her life and to be "friends" and everything...
Anyway I'm getting sidetracked...with all my baggage...sorry ^^;
Hopefully you can have more luck <3
Long ago when I first began to realize that I was not a "guy" I began by painting my nails with clear nail polish and I even was wearing black eyeliner to give my blonde eye brows some color. One time I forgot about having this stuff on and when I was out in public and realized this I quickly ran to the nearest restroom. This can be rather inconvenient when you are going for job interviews :)
Quote from: Alaia on March 24, 2014, 12:32:57 PM
So I figured this would be a good follow up to the guy mode pictures I posted Friday. I had some time alone over the weekend and wanted to see how well I could style my hair now that it is getting longer. I struggled with it as it was my first time curling my hair, but the results were much better than I expected:
And the duckface... sorry, couldn't resist :D
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-toxehAE5Qzc/Uy6NMWhdNtI/AAAAAAAAAOA/8My31qR9lew/w649-h865-no/IMG_0666.JPG)
Now it's just the waiting game for HRT to add to my curves in addition to toning my shoulder and arm muscles down :)
You're pretty darned cute, you're going to do great! Resist the forehead frown or it will be permanent and you'll be doing a lot of botox. Looking really good though lady, love the duckface!
Hi! ^^
Not exactly a "Do I look as a female", but more like "do this makes me look more female?"
I just felt the need to ask for a pingent to be made in homage for my fathers. I decided for a stainless stell with photography graved on it.
Now I can have my mother and father forever very close to my heart :)
I asked for a very delicate gold chain...this is the first necklace I wear, ever!
Is it looking feminine? I hope so ;D
But is it perhaps too feminine to be worn everyday, even on boy mode?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2488%2F140.jpg&hash=64c35b7410a9aa0bc1647e92c2299c41bc6ff9fb)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2488%2F141.jpg&hash=641c7190c77ce6264b09bff5d1b40d9fc9e6c70b)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2488%2F142.jpg&hash=3d5dc7b199ec617d6c60f9e4dadd7abf364b32bc)
PS: ignore the huge beard...I had today my second IPL session and I had to grow a 3-day beard... so I was unshaved for that long.
Quote from: Natalia on March 20, 2014, 10:32:06 PM
As I posted on another topic...I finaly bought a wig and female clothes...so...how bad am I? Can I pass at least a bit?
Please, sincere opinions...I already know about my nose and the need of FFS, that will probably be afforded by my grandparents....they accepetd me after all...
I would like opinions about the hairstyle and other things I can change.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2484%2F140.jpg&hash=0935974b00230af08210e1aae9380cf77728092d)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2484%2F141.jpg&hash=62e7a89b0da9c4a25b79043f401b99fe51b4950e)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2484%2F142.jpg&hash=9d86f65b91fcbd310a87ecdb11486e72a71c23b7)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2484%2F143.jpg&hash=4b9a824c40f179f66e71aae3123d1639ec91cc8b)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2484%2F144.jpg&hash=9aee6a71100de3157b9fca0569c57982e365776d)
I am so depressed because I lost my mother...and I decided to let Natalia out and try to be free...it's beem so hard, but at the same time I felt good being myself.
Natalia, you are becoming quite the woman. You posses a lot of woman features and HRT will definitely assist you. I would let the HRT do its thing before considering FFS, you already have a really good bone structure. Wigs can be iffy and requires many selections. It can become quite the expense but it's worth investing in other style wigs to best frame your face.
Quote from: Natalia on March 24, 2014, 05:54:31 PM
Hi! ^^
Not exactly a "Do I look as a female", but more like "do this makes me look more female?"
I just felt the need to ask for a pingent to be made in homage for my fathers. I decided for a stainless stell with photography graved on it.
Now I can have my mother and father forever very close to my heart :)
I asked for a very delicate gold chain...this is the first necklace I wear, ever!
Is it looking feminine? I hope so ;D
But is it perhaps too feminine to be worn everyday, even on boy mode?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2488%2F140.jpg&hash=64c35b7410a9aa0bc1647e92c2299c41bc6ff9fb)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2488%2F141.jpg&hash=641c7190c77ce6264b09bff5d1b40d9fc9e6c70b)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2488%2F142.jpg&hash=3d5dc7b199ec617d6c60f9e4dadd7abf364b32bc)
PS: ignore the huge beard...I had today my second IPL session and I had to grow a 3-day beard... so I was unshaved for that long.
Yes. You have very feminine jaw line. Laser will greatly enhance it.
barbie~~
Quote from: Alyssa L. on March 24, 2014, 01:48:29 PM
So what you are saying is my fantasy is tied for weirdest you have encountered... well that is somewhat encouraging :)
Not for my sanity maybe... :D
Quote from: Alyssa L. on March 24, 2014, 01:48:29 PM
Thanks for the advice. I feel like I just cant wrap my head around the whole fashion thing yet though... I am one of those people who needs to learn the fundamentals of something before I can move forward. I think I need to start excessively reading style magazines.
I'm not really a big fan of style magazines to be honest, they are generally 50% advertisements, and then 50% articles pointing you towards said advertisements :D
They are all about just selling products and keeping the industry going.
In addition, they are generally all about telling you what is "in season" or "in vogue". But oft times what is currently fashionable is not necessarily what will look good on you at all. If exposed shoulders and low rider jeans are "in" this season, all the style magazines will tell you to go buy them, so you "fit in" and "look hot this summer"...when in fact that type of clothing may always simply look terrible on you, just because of body shape or skin tone or whatever!
I have found that just general internet research into things like dressing for your bodyshape or how to mix materials works as the best starting point, take the core lessons from there and then move on to more specific areas you are interested in Search for more specific solutions/guides for random things that pop into your head, like "How to wear a scarf" or "Tips for stylish shot hair" etc.
This works best. That way you can find nice sites/guides etc and figure out what clothing/cut rules you should apply to YOU...rather than just taking for granted what some magazine editor says is the in thing for skinny blonde girls in their early 20s ;)
Fashion is much simpler than people like to give the impression. Don't be intimidated by it!
Quote from: Alyssa L. on March 24, 2014, 01:48:29 PM
That's a rough story, I am sorry you had to go through that kind of pain. I had a similar issue with my high school sweetheart. I could tell something was wrong so I hacked her email and found out she was sleeping with her ex. I was not proud of what I did, but I am glad I did it. Needless to say that relationship ended quickly after that point.
I hope my wife and I can defy the odds and make it. If we can't, then I hope that she and I can at least be friends for my sons sake.
Alyssa
I wish you the best of luck :) It would be a beautiful and special thing if you manage to make it. It didn't work out for me and my wife, but that does not mean that others cant do it <3
Quote from: Felicity on March 24, 2014, 08:57:46 PM
Natalia, you are becoming quite the woman. You posses a lot of woman features and HRT will definitely assist you. I would let the HRT do its thing before considering FFS, you already have a really good bone structure. Wigs can be iffy and requires many selections. It can become quite the expense but it's worth investing in other style wigs to best frame your face.
Hahaha thank you ^^
Is this wig too bad? I tried a few ones and some with bangs, but they ended giving a strange shape to my face...this one needs to be trimmed and better styled yet, but I really liked it ;)
I accept any sugestions. I can only purchase non-natural wigs, but some can look very good.
Quote from: barbie on March 25, 2014, 01:48:28 AM
Yes. You have very feminine jaw line. Laser will greatly enhance it.
barbie~~
Thank you Barbie ^^ I am just afraid of getting out in boy mode with a piece of jewelry that looks really feminine as this necklace (my opinion)...but I am curious about the faces I will get on the streets!
hmmm a few more (the same I posted on another topic) but I appreaciate sincere comments, as always ;D
Pratically no make-up, a cheap wig that I'm not sure if it fits well my face and some feminine clothes...
How bad is it this time?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2490%2F98.jpg&hash=48cd6b528d4cfcb6ad777bf433118ec7906e7f1f)
Quote from: Natalia on March 25, 2014, 07:39:38 PM
hmmm a few more (the same I posted on another topic) but I appreaciate sincere comments, as always ;D
Pratically no make-up, a cheap wig that I'm not sure if it fits well my face and some feminine clothes...
How bad is it this time?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2490%2F98.jpg&hash=48cd6b528d4cfcb6ad777bf433118ec7906e7f1f)
Bad? Natalia you look great! Every new picture you post just looks better and better. You have a very cute face too! Great progress girl!
Quote from: Natalia on March 25, 2014, 07:39:38 PM
hmmm a few more (the same I posted on another topic) but I appreaciate sincere comments, as always ;D
Pratically no make-up, a cheap wig that I'm not sure if it fits well my face and some feminine clothes...
How bad is it this time?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2490%2F98.jpg&hash=48cd6b528d4cfcb6ad777bf433118ec7906e7f1f)
How bad? Are you kidding? You look fantastic! I wouldn't question you for a second
Quote from: Natalia on March 25, 2014, 07:39:38 PM
hmmm a few more (the same I posted on another topic) but I appreaciate sincere comments, as always ;D
Pratically no make-up, a cheap wig that I'm not sure if it fits well my face and some feminine clothes...
How bad is it this time?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2490%2F98.jpg&hash=48cd6b528d4cfcb6ad777bf433118ec7906e7f1f)
I love your new look! Like Mariee said, every picture is better. Go girl! :)
Quote from: Valfreyja on March 25, 2014, 11:03:36 PM
Hello,
so I'd love to post my pictures here but I have very little experience with forums and I don't really know how to go about attaching pictures to my post... if anyone could give me a hint I would appreciate.
In any case, you can at least see my avatar picture. This is me on one of my 1st cross dressing experience a couple months ago with nothing more than make up and a 60$ wig (I know... the very dim lighting really helps too ;). I felt so good about myself that night that I realized I might be more than a cross dresser... I'm actually seeing a therapist for the 1st time next week ;)
Cheers,
Chloe
First attempt? No way! You look so good AND relaxed. Sweetie, you will be just fine! :)
Hi Valfreyja,
You can search for free pic & video storage sites, I use Photobucket (free). Open an account, create an album, upload a pic. In the forum post you can then copy the url link from the storage site & paste into your forum post. You look pretty.
Congrats on your inquiring mind sensing you should see a gender therapist, good luck.
Jamie
Thanks for the compliments and the "how to" Jessica and Jamie ! Much appreciated. :)
Quote from: Natalia on March 25, 2014, 07:39:38 PM
hmmm a few more (the same I posted on another topic) but I appreaciate sincere comments, as always ;D
Pratically no make-up, a cheap wig that I'm not sure if it fits well my face and some feminine clothes...
How bad is it this time?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2490%2F98.jpg&hash=48cd6b528d4cfcb6ad777bf433118ec7906e7f1f)
Sorry girls I gotta say it. Lose that wig Natalia. The other one in your other photo's looks much better. This one makes you look like an aging rock star from the 80's, -no pun intended. Hey you wanted the truth.
@ Jessica, Handy & Mariee: Thank you very much for your kind words ^^ I'm glad to know that I'm looking better, but still I feel I can't pass...this is indeed my biggest fear.
Quote from: Allyda on March 26, 2014, 09:59:44 AM
Sorry girls I gotta say it. Lose that wig Natalia. The other one in your other photo's looks much better. This one makes you look like an aging rock star from the 80's, -no pun intended. Hey you wanted the truth.
Thank you for the opinion Allyda! ^^
Am I looking like some aging Siouxsie Sioux lol? that would be a compliment if we were on the 80's (I love her style!)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.almalondrina.com.br%2Fimages%2FMulheresrock%2Fsioux009.jpg&hash=b8c25cf0b49e0469e9d9321355727ada97fd6085)
But which other wig are you referring to? The blonde? That was really good, but it was a virtual wig :-\
I can try putting this same wig on different ways and it can give me different results. It can be parted on the middle or I can try to part it on the sides...I don't know if any of them looks good (or if they are looking exactly the same ???).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2491%2F28.jpg&hash=de30e5cd010643cbdd1c06fa4178aae158968a69)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2491%2F29.jpg&hash=7aa39be04848a18ad5c3bb017ea6fd4d8ab1c89b) --> virtual make-up
Or...I can also try to ask for a hairstylist to cut it...perhaps should be better than buy another wig...but I really would like to save this one. I felt so embarassed when I went to the store, asked for a female wig and tried it on male mode in front of a lot of women :o I don't know if I want to repeat this again so soon lol
Can this wig be saved? I accept any sugestions :)
I had a request for a profile shot.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfV9Ls7i.png&hash=94ff3a9c3c411b4e137078b923ee029d1b737e00)
Here is a closer front shot
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjBrxWbN.png&hash=b4b19632b711dcec7cd52d2d1edd8f9a5f1ef0f9)
Quote from: Natalia on March 25, 2014, 07:39:38 PM
hmmm a few more (the same I posted on another topic) but I appreaciate sincere comments, as always ;D
Pratically no make-up, a cheap wig that I'm not sure if it fits well my face and some feminine clothes...
How bad is it this time?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2490%2F98.jpg&hash=48cd6b528d4cfcb6ad777bf433118ec7906e7f1f)
Natalia,
You look prettier each time you post! All you really need is facial laser to get rid of the stubble, a tracheal shave for the Adams Apple, and a really nice wig or two any you will be good to go. You have a remarkably pretty smile and nice teeth which is a big asset and will be disarming to those who look at you twice. Your natural hair is beautiful on the sides and back, but the top front hairline is too high and thin, perhaps in time if you used finasteride to offset the effects of DHT it may come in more fully there, meanwhile wear a nice wig and enjoy your female life.
Quote from: RobinGee on March 26, 2014, 12:01:46 PM
I had a request for a profile shot.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfV9Ls7i.png&hash=94ff3a9c3c411b4e137078b923ee029d1b737e00)
Here is a closer front shot
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjBrxWbN.png&hash=b4b19632b711dcec7cd52d2d1edd8f9a5f1ef0f9)
There's some things you can already start doing:
1. Get rid of your beard. Start electrolysis or laser...it takes a long time, so the sooner the better.
2. Ask to have your eyebrows thinned and arched a bit. It will make a lot of difference.
3. Lose some weight. Not only it will be good for your health and will help you to look more feminine, but it will also be something harder to achiev while on HRT...
4. You have some brow bossing and, on the future, perhaps you should do a FFS to reduce it.
5. Grow your hair!!!
But overall I think your face is very good and have a lot of potential. HRT will make you a pretty woman!
Quote from: Natalia on March 26, 2014, 11:26:09 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2491%2F28.jpg&hash=de30e5cd010643cbdd1c06fa4178aae158968a69)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2491%2F29.jpg&hash=7aa39be04848a18ad5c3bb017ea6fd4d8ab1c89b)
You look very feminine Natalia.
New photos. Was feeling low in terms of confidence the other day but I needed a bit of pick me up and decided that I would take some photos to try and help with the boost. Sorry for always posting here.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi917.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad15%2FHayleyRMc%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsb1e13a31.jpg&hash=cd39fa9b8d4a76dc35092812bc67264e4885bab9) (http://s917.photobucket.com/user/HayleyRMc/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsb1e13a31.jpg.html) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi917.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad15%2FHayleyRMc%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsf7b46353.jpg&hash=2315c39409dbf331d139615abf2f323276dc506f) (http://s917.photobucket.com/user/HayleyRMc/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsf7b46353.jpg.html)
Quote from: Hayley on March 26, 2014, 06:29:37 PM
New photos. Was feeling low in terms of confidence the other day but I needed a bit of pick me up and decided that I would take some photos to try and help with the boost. Sorry for always posting here.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi917.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad15%2FHayleyRMc%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsb1e13a31.jpg&hash=cd39fa9b8d4a76dc35092812bc67264e4885bab9) (http://s917.photobucket.com/user/HayleyRMc/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsb1e13a31.jpg.html) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi917.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad15%2FHayleyRMc%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsf7b46353.jpg&hash=2315c39409dbf331d139615abf2f323276dc506f) (http://s917.photobucket.com/user/HayleyRMc/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsf7b46353.jpg.html)
You'll do great Hayley. You have nice youthful skin, beautiful eyes, a narrow jaw, and from what I can see a great head of hair. You have a lot going for ya, so chin up! You are going to be gorgeous!
Quote from: Natalia on March 26, 2014, 11:26:09 AM
@ Jessica, Handy & Mariee: Thank you very much for your kind words ^^ I'm glad to know that I'm looking better, but still I feel I can't pass...this is indeed my biggest fear.
Thank you for the opinion Allyda! ^^
Am I looking like some aging Siouxsie Sioux lol? that would be a compliment if we were on the 80's (I love her style!)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.almalondrina.com.br%2Fimages%2FMulheresrock%2Fsioux009.jpg&hash=b8c25cf0b49e0469e9d9321355727ada97fd6085)
But which other wig are you referring to? The blonde? That was really good, but it was a virtual wig :-\
Can this wig be saved? I accept any sugestions :)
The one your wearing in your Avatar Natalia. That's the one that gives you a softer feminine look. ;)
Topic says it all, I'll post better full body shots when I figure out how to get the lighting fixed.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mWk0XpBWJH8/UzOYXQU1JhI/AAAAAAAAACY/Nj4OXe9rqeE/w1292-h861-no/IMG_0759.JPG)
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mWk0XpBWJH8/UzOYXQU1JhI/AAAAAAAAACY/Nj4OXe9rqeE/w1292-h861-no/IMG_0759.JPG (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mWk0XpBWJH8/UzOYXQU1JhI/AAAAAAAAACY/Nj4OXe9rqeE/w1292-h861-no/IMG_0759.JPG)
Alright, let's see if this works. 1st time trying to insert pictures in a post ;p
So here a picture from an early cross dressing experiences a few months ago.
I'm hopeful hrt could make me passable with laser hair removal (beard) and slight forehead contouring, what do you think?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1154.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp532%2Fsimclou13%2F2014-02-21133440_zpsae9aa42d.jpg&hash=d2bc694205d9b3806e2ead15dbbed000d7c9ce1e) (http://s1154.photobucket.com/user/simclou13/media/2014-02-21133440_zpsae9aa42d.jpg.html)
Quote from: Allyda on March 26, 2014, 08:26:49 PM
The one your wearing in your Avatar Natalia. That's the one that gives you a softer feminine look. ;)
Thank you Allyda! ^^ I'm much more relieved now ;D
Believe it or not, it is the very same wig! It just happens that the hair was pulled back and probably better placed on my head ::)
I still have a lot to learn of "how to wear wigs properly" ;)
I'm no expert but I'll pitch in my two cents, I'm positive you can pass but here is what I would suggest:
Your forehead is well rounded which is good, as with most of us the hairline is lower in the middle than with cisgirls but nobody can see under our wigs :)
Try making your eyes bigger, if you can pluck eyebrows from the bottom this will have the desired effect, darker eyeshadows blended up and out and eyeliner top/bottom 2/3rd of the way in should help.
Try making your cheeks more prominent and nose\chin narrower. I suggest a bit of matt white eyeshadow down the ridge of the nose and chin blended in, use bronzer or similar under your cheekbones to make the cheekbones appear more prominent and the apply a bit of blush on the cheek itself.
Quote from: Valfreyja on March 26, 2014, 11:26:18 PM
Alright, let's see if this works. 1st time trying to insert pictures in a post ;p
So here is what I look like everyday vs my early cross dressing experiences a few months ago.
Amazing what a close shave, lots of concealer an affordable wig (incognito) and dim lighting will do ;)
I'm hopeful hrt could make me passable with laser hair removal (beard) and slight forehead contouring, what do you think?
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Thanks a lot for the tips Antonia I'll make sure to give it a try soon. I'm fairly new at make up but boy am I having fun experimenting ;)
Quote from: Valfreyja on March 26, 2014, 11:26:18 PM
Alright, let's see if this works. 1st time trying to insert pictures in a post ;p
So here is what I look like everyday vs my early cross dressing experiences a few months ago.
Amazing what a close shave, lots of concealer an affordable wig (incognito) and dim lighting will do ;)
I'm hopeful hrt could make me passable with laser hair removal (beard) and slight forehead contouring, what do you think?
I'ma gonna be brutal, chica-dee. You've got a largely maximized brow ridge (maxillary sinus). You make a pretty chick in the pictures but you'll have a difficult time being 100% stealth if you don't go the FFS route. I'm not saying it's impossible to do but I *am* saying that you've got several critical characteristics which won't change.
That said, stealth is just one of several options you have available to you.
Quote from: antonia on March 26, 2014, 10:22:57 PM
Topic says it all, I'll post better full body shots when I figure out how to get the lighting fixed.
Pull your hair off your face, babe. We're looking at facial structure here, not 'could my best glamor shot pass by someone?'
Quote from: Natalia on March 25, 2014, 07:39:38 PM
hmmm a few more (the same I posted on another topic) but I appreaciate sincere comments, as always ;D
Pratically no make-up, a cheap wig that I'm not sure if it fits well my face and some feminine clothes...
How bad is it this time?
Hmmmmm.... well, you've got a rather wide chin and jaw but your brow ridge is minimal and you've got nice eyes. HRT should be good for you and you should be able to pass most of the time in urban areas without FFS.
P.S. - Hi everybody, I'm Tori. I'll be checking in here regularly to provide honest feedback daily from now on as I've seen a bit too much fuzzy bunnies in this thread for a while now and setting realistic expectations for outcome is a really important thing for mental health, peeps.
'Till tomorrow.
I like your brutal truth Victoria ;) Actually, I'm fairly aware of my large brow ridge which I would like to fix with ffs... my nose could probably use a bit of smoothing as well... and let's not forget my bulging adam's apple which we don't really see in the pictures.
My question would be: Do you think it's better to have ffs done before starting hrt?
Thanks for your valuable opinion :)
Cheers,
Quote from: Valfreyja on March 27, 2014, 12:53:28 AM
My question would be: Do you think it's better to have ffs done before starting hrt?
No. Not at all. Not remotely. No. FFS should be probably the *last* thing you do and be used as a last resort only. It's invasive, painful, and has the highest percentage of complications for all TS transition related procedures. Give HRT the time to do it's thing. Get you some laser or electro. Get a nice dermabrasion to clear up your pores. Get some boobs and a hoo-ha. After all that, if you really think that it's what you want, save up for and do FFS.
Quote from: Victoria Mitchell on March 27, 2014, 12:47:33 AM
Hmmmmm.... well, you've got a rather wide chin and jaw but your brow ridge is minimal and you've got nice eyes. HRT should be good for you and you should be able to pass most of the time in urban areas without FFS.
Thank you Victoria ^^
It is really important for us to know the crude reality, the worse it may sound. I know many people gives positives responses because it's what we need to hear to boost our self-esteem and, as this is a support group, people usually don't want to make other people feel bad or trick any degree of disphoria by telling them harsh things.
But the problem is that this is a topic where the truth is really required. We can't delude ourselves and think we are looking marvellous when we are not.
You know, I was considering sending you a PM asking you to give me your opinions about my pics, but you were faster than me on some minutes :D And your words and critics were good for me too. I thank you for being sincere and I also feel good knowing from a high critical and avaliative person that I will probably be able to pass ;) I plan to have FFS on the future, but as I can't do it right now, it was very important to me to know if I will or will not be able to pass without it.
On being honest: We all start from the perspective of being Trans and knowing in advance that the posters are Trans. I agree that it is important to be honest since creating false bravado could lead to hurt once a poster walks into that brick wall of the cisworld. I also agree that the best pics to post are those that are what we would expect to see on the street and not the boudoir. On the other hand, I think that there is honest and "brutally" honest. Kindess always works and I hope that those on the receiving end understand that we only want you to succeed.
From my perspective I haven't posted here yet because I have not started a transition. It is a very important thread for me though since I use it to give myself hope that things may turn out for the best for me as well. As such I would like to thank everyone for having the courage to stick your "face" as well as your neck out by posting.
Quote from: Victoria Mitchell on March 27, 2014, 04:25:39 PM
If you want cheerleading kinds of answers, we have a thread for that. I'ma gonna keep it real in here but compassionate at the same time because, I *know* what some forms of FFS cost (OMG) and I've seen the girls who can't pass no matter what alterations that they have. I'm lucky. I'm incredibly lucky and I know it. I'll give it to you straight without pandering to your assumptive weakness (which is BS trans misogyny, BTW) and tell you exactly what I see.
That said, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WOMEN, PULL YOUR HAIR OUT OF YOUR FACE!
Everyone likes the flirty hair all framing the face and making that cute little teardrop (please see my avatar pic for what I look like daily as an example of my love for this) but if ya'll wanna know what you're gonna need for reals, I'd love to see a front shot with hair pulled back and a profile shot with the same. That's probably the only way that you'll get a realistic answer before going to see a surgeon for a consult.
Just disagreeing in one small point.
As this topic is "do I look, or could I pass as female?" the presentation counts a lot too...and I have noticed that the difference that a hair can make on me is stunning.
A few pages back you may find a post where I posted a few pics of me on different profiles and with my natural hair...I don't know if you have seem it...probably you would give a lot more harsh answers ragarding my nose, brow bossing, forehead and hairline (no ofense intended, I appreaciate your comments)...
But is with a female presentation that I want to try going out, and not the "boy" mode I was showing on the other pics. With this wig even those flaws can be less noticed and then, perhaps I can pass.
But just for reference, here they are...Please, hit me with all you got :D (and sorry if I am overflooding the topic...I think I am a bit narcisistic)
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Quote from: Natalia on March 27, 2014, 05:54:06 PM
Just disagreeing in one small point.
As this topic is "do I look, or could I pass as female?" the presentation counts a lot too...and I have noticed that the difference that a hair can make on me is stunning.
A few pages back you may find a post where I posted a few pics of me on different profiles and with my natural hair...I don't know if you have seem it...probably you would give a lot more harsh answers ragarding my nose, brow bossing, forehead and hairline (no ofense intended, I appreaciate your comments)...
But is with a female presentation that I want to try going out, and not the "boy" mode I was showing on the other pics. With this wig even those flaws can be less noticed and then, perhaps I can pass.
Well, let's get started. Wigs are noticeably wigs. Your hairline is receding currently so you'll need to get that addressed. You won't ever be someone who can pull their hair back until you do because you've got a very male-shaped upper cranial region. Other than that, these issues are minor and wouldn't necessitate FFS right out of the box. Maybe you'd want to, maybe not. The hair thing is way more important as that hairline is critical unless you're going to be a pretty little princess who never lets her hair fall out of place (ain't nobody got time for that.)
Generally, when I respond to this, I'm asking myself the question: "After HRT, will this woman be able to walk out without makeup, in a tee shirt, bra, panties, jeans, and tennis shoes and have an effortless time being accepted in society as her natural self in society?"
You really do look great all glammed up but, trust me hon, no one wants to have to chase that tiger every single morning.
Final bit: I really don't love this topic but I'm tired of dealing with the fallout from false expectations in the general forum.
Quote from: Shantel on March 24, 2014, 05:31:06 PM
You're pretty darned cute, you're going to do great! Resist the forehead frown or it will be permanent and you'll be doing a lot of botox. Looking really good though lady, love the duckface!
Thanks Shantel. I've been watching the forehead frown ever since you mentioned it. I may be too far gone there already. When normally relaxed I have the double lines on my brow. I can kinda make it go away if I focus on keeping my eyes more opened... but as soon as my mind goes to something else I relax and the lines are back.
It may be that I won't have a permanent solution until I get FFS and have my forehead done :/
Quote from: Alaia on March 27, 2014, 07:06:31 PM
It may be that I won't have a permanent solution until I get FFS and have my forehead done :/
Well you can always have a dermabrasion (not microdermabrasion) treatment at a dermatologist. It'll hurt like hell but at least it'll get rid of the lines! Just a note: you'll need a couple of days off work for recovery.
I'm looking for some advice on how "male" my mid-lower face looks, in general I think everything is male down to the "male smile". Also, is it possible for a brow ridge to be too deep to be corrected surgically? My nose, brow and buttchin are my biggest concerns right now. Thanks.
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Sides:
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Quote from: Victoria Mitchell on March 27, 2014, 08:02:32 PM
Well you can always have a dermabrasion (not microdermabrasion) treatment at a dermatologist. It'll hurt like hell but at least it'll get rid of the lines! Just a note: you'll need a couple of days off work for recovery.
May I have some feedback?
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Stylized pics, using a wig and makeup app:
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Any suggestions? Criticisms? How am I doing? I'm pre-everything. No hormones. Do you think FFS is necessary in any areas?
Also, I understand my eyebrows need work regardless of if I keep them covered most of the time anyway.
Quote from: Izla on March 27, 2014, 09:21:39 PM
I'm looking for some advice on how "male" my mid-lower face looks, in general I think everything is male down to the "male smile". Also, is it possible for a brow ridge to be too deep to be corrected surgically? My nose, brow and buttchin are my biggest concerns right now. Thanks.
Get yourself on HRT and see what the results are. FFS can definitely fix the brow but it'll be costly and very painful. You've just got a large maxillary sinus which needs reshaping. OTOH, you've got nice cheek structure and your jaw isn't to engorged so, there's a lot of plus sides to your face right now. HRT might make you passable 80-90% of the time without surgery but time will tell.
Quote from: Chic on March 27, 2014, 09:22:25 PM
May I have some feedback?
Any suggestions? Criticisms? How am I doing? I'm pre-everything. No hormones. Do you think FFS is necessary in any areas?
Also, I understand my eyebrows need work regardless of if I keep them covered most of the time anyway.
You're really young so, no, I don't think that you'll really need FFS unless you wait too much longer. That said... I CAN'T SEE YOUR BROW IN ANY OF THOSE PICS!!! Pull your hair back or put it under a cap turned backwards or a makeup band or whatever (I just don't want to see hair) and take a pic from dead-on-front with no angle at all, and from the profile (side view) with no distortion please.
Quote from: Victoria Mitchell on March 27, 2014, 09:33:25 PM
You're really young so, no, I don't think that you'll really need FFS unless you wait too much longer. That said... I CAN'T SEE YOUR BROW IN ANY OF THOSE PICS!!! Pull your hair back or put it under a cap turned backwards or a makeup band or whatever (I just don't want to see hair) and take a pic from dead-on-front with no angle at all, and from the profile (side view) with no distortion please.
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*laughs* I can't actually see anything... those are so dark!
im pre HRT and i think with a bit of make up it could work but i am concerned a little about my bone structure... :P (https://www.susans.org/Users/andrewdesgagne/Desktop/IMG_2970.jpg)
Quote from: Victoria Mitchell on March 27, 2014, 09:44:44 PM
*laughs* I can't actually see anything... those are so dark!
How is this?
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could i pass with a little more make up? (I'm pre HRT)
Quote from: Chic on March 27, 2014, 10:05:08 PM
How is this?
*gigglesnort* Well, dear, bumping up the brightness is a thing, I suppose. I still can't really see your forehead very well but, yes, if you jump on HRT before too much longer, you should stop most of the rest of the masculinization. GET YOUR BROWS WAXED!!! (jeebus those things are woah)... that'll go a long, long way towards what you want. But yeah, provided that you stop the T effects before too much longer, transition will be quite easy for you.
Quote from: Riley Desgagne on March 27, 2014, 10:08:35 PM
could i pass with a little more make up? (I'm pre HRT)
I'm going to point you back a few comments ago where I said that we need a picture... with your hair pulled back... straight on (not lower, like you're doing... actually, that's about the worst camera angle in the world to use) and one from the side (profile view, also with the hair back, pretty please). Don't smile, don't vogue, don't makeup. Those are the criteria which will give me the best ability to figure out your face.
Right now, all that I can say is that no, makeup/wig won't make you pass more than 50% of the time. Give me better pics and I might be able to give you more detailed feedback. I will say that getting your eyebrows plucked down to something like a reasonable thickness will be a godsend for you (but not a cure-all).
Quote from: Victoria Mitchell on March 27, 2014, 10:27:03 PM
*gigglesnort* Well, dear, bumping up the brightness is a thing, I suppose. I still can't really see your forehead very well but, yes, if you jump on HRT before too much longer, you should stop most of the rest of the masculinization. GET YOUR BROWS WAXED!!! (jeebus those things are woah)... that'll go a long, long way towards what you want. But yeah, provided that you stop the T effects before too much longer, transition will be quite easy for you.
Unfortunately, I will have to wait at least a year and a half until I can start estrogen or anti-androgens
My father is quite restricting and doesn't support me transitioning, so I can't really do anything noticeably different to myself near him.
Well, if that's the case, then that's the case. Given that you don't have a guardian who will sign-off on HRT, you'll have to wait until you're 18 and so, yeah, you should do that. Given that you've given me a 1.5 year timeframe on this, I'll assume that you're 16 and so, even at 18, you should transition flawlessly with medical help.
Quote from: Victoria Mitchell on March 27, 2014, 10:47:04 PM
Well, if that's the case, then that's the case. Given that you don't have a guardian who will sign-off on HRT, you'll have to wait until you're 18 and so, yeah, you should do that. Given that you've given me a 1.5 year timeframe on this, I'll assume that you're 16 and so, even at 18, you should transition flawlessly with medical help.
Thank you! :) I'm glad to hear that's the probable case. I feel lucky because of the advantages I have (in terms of youth, appearance, and where I live).
I'm roughly 5 months in on HRT so far. I'm actually living part time now. I love swimming, and within the last month I crossed the point where I felt like I could no longer go swimming topless. Luckily, the area I recently moved to has an LGBT based masters swim club that was very happy to have me come out and join their club. They even told me to go ahead and use the women's locker room, which is something I didn't think I was ready for, but the other ladies in the club made me feel right at home. I do have to say, getting away from a testosterone filled locker room was a much welcomed breath of fresh air. I am so thankful that I can keep swimming, I think I would start to go insane if I had to give it up. Living part time is also forcing me to work on my female voice a whole lot now. Still have a ways to go on that part.
Anyways, here is a pic I took this evening when I got home from the pool. Am I getting close to passing yet?
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Thanks for the feedback, I think we all get lured into presenting what we feel is our best look whilst what is more important is how we look on our worst day wearing sweat pants.
I'll post some vanilla shots soon and mentally prepare myself.
I can't remember who it was that said "There is a thin and blurry line between honesty and cruelty, and honestly the last thing on my mind was cruelty".
Quote from: Victoria Mitchell on March 27, 2014, 12:39:26 AM
Pull your hair off your face, babe. We're looking at facial structure here, not 'could my best glamor shot pass by someone?'
Zoe, in a word "YES". I think you pass wonderfully! :)
Quote from: Chic on March 27, 2014, 10:05:08 PM
How is this?
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The side view looks like a cis girl that lives by me. I think you will do just fine! :)
Thin those brows from the bottom up though, it is the only give away I see. :)
Quote from: Riley Desgagne on March 27, 2014, 10:08:35 PM
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could i pass with a little more make up? (I'm pre HRT)
Thin those brows from the bottom up and with longer hair (or wig) in brown with highlights would look really good on you. I think you will do just fine. The right shade of eye shadow will make your eyes the envy of all. Experiment with colors for your skin tone. For pre HRT not bad at all. :)
Quote from: Zoe Snow on March 27, 2014, 11:06:38 PM
Anyways, here is a pic I took this evening when I got home from the pool. Am I getting close to passing yet?
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(Brutally honest girl, here.) You're pretty close. I think that you'll likely get clocked for a while longer but, with another 6-8 months on HRT and some work, you'll be just fine. Your hair line comes back quite a bit at the temples, your neck is quite thick at current and HRT will hopefully thin that out. Doing some neck stretches will probably help a lot as it will both loosen up the muscles around there as well as bring in the musculature.
Your hardcore issues are a little more problematic but will likely be mitigated by HRT... it's a bit too early to tell, honestly. You've got some strong bossing around the outer brow ridge (the things that give your brow a 'pointy' look on the outside.) You've also got a somewhat wide jaw at the base. These issues just won't go away and the only thing that you could possibly do is surgery but I'm not convinced that you'd need that at this point.
Something that would help a lot of your current issues would be restricting your diet to 800kcal + (whatever you burn in the pool) for a bit so that you can shed the mass while you're transitioning. It helps. A lot. Been there.
Presentation issues: glasses you have are a no for your face. You should probably open your eyes a little more though, darling... and maybe get the brows thinned out? Other than that, you look very close to naturally passable. My partner and I both agree that you need to grow your hair out a bit more.
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What can I do to be able to pass? What features are masculine indicators? I'm desperate to know because people always clock me but I can't figure out what it is.
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Quote from: llerret on March 28, 2014, 01:08:24 AM
What can I do to be able to pass? What features are masculine indicators? I'm desperate to know because people always clock me but I can't figure out what it is.
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I am sure stumped. ??? Maybe it is mannerism's, voice or movement. I can't see any reason from the photo. :)
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on March 28, 2014, 01:11:16 AM
I am sure stumped. ??? Maybe it is mannerism's, voice or movement. I can't see any reason from the photo. :)
It's not any of that. I've got all of that down like nothing. I've been acting as my true self since elementary school and been socialized with girls. I swear a guy will cat call me and walk up to me and after getting close enough, gasp and walk away. I don't know what i my face is doing it! :( I can't take it
I cant figure it out either llerret! Didn't have a heavy garlic dinner did you? I see absolutely NO give away's, seriously.
I dont see any give aways either,,,
dont worry give hormones some times and nobody will gender you male or do something like that again...
Quote from: FalsePrincess on March 28, 2014, 01:27:45 AM
I dont see any give aways either,,,
Coming from true (not false) princess here I can only conclude he was nuts, rabid or delusional. It's not you at all! :)
You young beautiful girls drive me bonkers! You both look so cis it kills me! ;)
Quote from: llerret on March 28, 2014, 01:08:24 AM
What can I do to be able to pass? What features are masculine indicators? I'm desperate to know because people always clock me but I can't figure out what it is.
Your chin is the biggest indicator to me in that picture. It is vertically longer than the average female, well within the male range. Put your thumb over your chin in that picture and then remove it. You'll see what I mean. Your nose isn't too bad, but a reduction/refinement could help improve your feminine appearance as well.
There may be other masculine markers, but I can't tell with just the frontal pov. A profile and 3/4 view would help.
I should say that this is getting very nit picky. I think you look wonderful, but if you say people are clocking you all the time (not sure why) then that's all I can see for it.
Edit: Actually, I'm going to hold off judgement on your chin. I've looked at your other pictures where it isn't as pronounced as well as compared your chin to several celebrity women smiling the same way. I think it's just this picture.
Quote from: llerret on March 28, 2014, 01:08:24 AM
What can I do to be able to pass? What features are masculine indicators? I'm desperate to know because people always clock me but I can't figure out what it is.
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I don't know you personally so I can't say for sure. All I know is that it isn't physical. You register to me as nothing other than a very attractive woman from the pic. I didn't pass for sh%t the first few times I went out in girl mode and I dont think what I looked like was the problem. If you don't seem comfortable, natural and relaxed, people pick up on it pretty fast.
Quote from: Victoria Mitchell on March 28, 2014, 12:07:47 AM
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(Brutally honest girl, here.) You're pretty close. I think that you'll likely get clocked for a while longer but, with another 6-8 months on HRT and some work, you'll be just fine. Your hair line comes back quite a bit at the temples, your neck is quite thick at current and HRT will hopefully thin that out. Doing some neck stretches will probably help a lot as it will both loosen up the muscles around there as well as bring in the musculature.
Your hardcore issues are a little more problematic but will likely be mitigated by HRT... it's a bit too early to tell, honestly. You've got some strong bossing around the outer brow ridge (the things that give your brow a 'pointy' look on the outside.) You've also got a somewhat wide jaw at the base. These issues just won't go away and the only thing that you could possibly do is surgery but I'm not convinced that you'd need that at this point.
Something that would help a lot of your current issues would be restricting your diet to 800kcal + (whatever you burn in the pool) for a bit so that you can shed the mass while you're transitioning. It helps. A lot. Been there.
Presentation issues: glasses you have are a no for your face. You should probably open your eyes a little more though, darling... and maybe get the brows thinned out? Other than that, you look very close to naturally passable. My partner and I both agree that you need to grow your hair out a bit more.
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Thanks for the feedback. I've actually dropped 95 pounds already in the last year, though I've been kinda stuck at my current weight of around 215 for the last month or two. Now that I am back in the pool, and with the weather starting to warm up, I'm hoping that number will begin dropping again as I ramp my activity levels back up. I'm the type of person that would much rather burn more calories than consume less. Though with the recent plateau, I may need to re-evaluate what my actual caloric requirements are, because I think they have dropped a bit from a few months ago.
My last haircut was about a year ago, I have no plans of getting it cut anytime soon. Its to the point I can pull most of it back, which is what I did in that picture, but I can't get all of my hair at the same time. Hopefully in another month or two that won't be an issue anymore. I'd like my hair to get to at least shoulder length if not longer.
What do you recommend for glasses that would work well for me? The frames I have now are a couple years old, if not older. Depending upon what I replace them with, I may keep wearing the old ones for male mode. Trying to do the male fail approach to transition. As I stated earlier, I just started with living part time within the last couple of weeks, only out of necessity since male fail was starting to occur with swimming.
Quote from: llerret on March 28, 2014, 01:18:07 AM
It's not any of that. I've got all of that down like nothing. I've been acting as my true self since elementary school and been socialized with girls. I swear a guy will cat call me and walk up to me and after getting close enough, gasp and walk away. I don't know what i my face is doing it! :( I can't take it
Okay, calm down and *breathe*. I can't say anything from your pics. That said, your pics are very... well, they're very well composed. I can't see anything about anything regarding your body, your shoulders, anything. Everything is a glamor shot. So... let's do a little test, shall we? Record a video of you from a distance which will show your whole body in what you would typically wear out on the street. Just talk about something. Anything. Actually, talk about this particular thing and then upload it to vimeo with a random title ("a box tube circle blue three") and post the link here. That'll be enough to at least try to look at the issue in full. You can delete the vid when we're done with the feedback.
Quote from: Zoe Snow on March 28, 2014, 02:26:40 AM
I'm the type of person that would much rather burn more calories than consume less. Though with the recent plateau, I may need to re-evaluate what my actual caloric requirements are, because I think they have dropped a bit from a few months ago.
This isn't the right way to lose weight. It's strictly a numbers game and anyone who is trying to tell you differently is trying to sell you something.
Quote from: Zoe Snow on March 28, 2014, 02:26:40 AM
My last haircut was about a year ago, I have no plans of getting it cut anytime soon. Its to the point I can pull most of it back, which is what I did in that picture, but I can't get all of my hair at the same time. Hopefully in another month or two that won't be an issue anymore. I'd like my hair to get to at least shoulder length if not longer.
Cool but, as you know, the pool is NOT your friend. Keep that stuff under your swim cap OR ELSE!!! Also, go to a stylist and 'splain the trans thing and what you're going for as a result. Get it maintained every three months and take a pre-natal vitamin for best growth rates.
Quote from: Zoe Snow on March 28, 2014, 02:26:40 AM
What do you recommend for glasses that would work well for me?
The ones that look best on you with your best girlfriend (who actually knows fashion and can be honest with you) telling you so.
Quote from: llerret on March 28, 2014, 01:08:24 AM
What can I do to be able to pass? What features are masculine indicators? I'm desperate to know because people always clock me but I can't figure out what it is.
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Yeah I gotta say, I have no doubt that you pass facially, given your photos, but like Victoria says, the photos are very well composed, but do not show any of your body proportions, or the way in which you move or talk.
But it's not your face I'll tell you that for free :)
Unfortunately I can't comment any further without seeing some more natural photos or a video of you in action Xx
Quote from: llerret on March 28, 2014, 01:18:07 AM
It's not any of that. I've got all of that down like nothing. I've been acting as my true self since elementary school and been socialized with girls. I swear a guy will cat call me and walk up to me and after getting close enough, gasp and walk away. I don't know what i my face is doing it! :( I can't take it
I can't see anything either so I'll take a guess
You're very glamorous perhaps too glamorous to be cis? I love your look but you are on the road to drag queen levels with the makeup.
You wear a lot of make up/shading, That can emphasise any chiseled feature you may have.
It's covered well and I can't see any bossing but you have a projection above your nose and you wear dark shading above your inner eye which could potentially emphasise the projection.
Watched your video which makes you look even better but you use your hands a loooot. Make sure you don't slip into flamboyant.
How tall are you?
Quote from: Evelyn K on March 28, 2014, 03:22:11 PM
^^^ Finally someone with the tits to tell it like it is. I too was really starting to roll my eyes with all the "fuzzy" warm wishful commentary going on in here.
If you got it, you got it! If you don't, why make your life any more difficult (and the trans community at large) by making yourself and us look ridiculous when it's obvious a win is not in the cards.
I hope you weren't suggesting that those who don't "pass" should get back in the closet or hide out only at private venues so that those who "pass" won't have to be lumped in with those uglies. My position is that although we should be honest, we should also not dissuade people from being themselves even if they don't "pass". The real win may come someday in the future, when transwomen who do not fully blend into the ciscommunity will be welcomed for what we are and what we have to offer as people. The downside of passing is the perpetuation of the myth that there is only one way to be a transwoman - and that is to look and act exactly like the stereotypical ciswoman.
Quote from: Natalia on March 20, 2014, 10:32:06 PM
As I posted on another topic...I finaly bought a wig and female clothes...so...how bad am I? Can I pass at least a bit?
Please, sincere opinions...I already know about my nose and the need of FFS, that will probably be afforded by my grandparents....they accepetd me after all...
I would like opinions about the hairstyle and other things I can change.
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I am so depressed because I lost my mother...and I decided to let Natalia out and try to be free...it's beem so hard, but at the same time I felt good being myself.
The hair definitely makes you. I actually love it. :D
The nose looks like an simple surgical fix. Your face has really softened up from the before-HRT pic. I think you will look better in time.
Keep it up.
Quote from: llerret on March 28, 2014, 01:18:07 AM
It's not any of that. I've got all of that down like nothing. I've been acting as my true self since elementary school and been socialized with girls. I swear a guy will cat call me and walk up to me and after getting close enough, gasp and walk away. I don't know what i my face is doing it! :( I can't take it
from your pictures it's not your face. I don't know but there are guys that will do that to girls just to be jerks and has nothing to do with looks.
Here is a youtube video I made a month or so ago talking about my transition thus far. Maybe this could help you all notice what gives me away.
http://youtu.be/lKDOErDL8dY
Quote from: sandrauk on March 28, 2014, 05:27:51 AM
I can't see anything either so I'll take a guess
You're very glamorous perhaps too glamorous to be cis? I love your look but you are on the road to drag queen levels with the makeup.
You wear a lot of make up/shading, That can emphasise any chiseled feature you may have.
It's covered well and I can't see any bossing but you have a projection above your nose and you wear dark shading above your inner eye which could potentially emphasise the projection.
Watched your video which makes you look even better but you use your hands a loooot. Make sure you don't slip into flamboyant.
How tall are you?
Thank you for the critique. I am seen as very glamourous or whatever but I mean..... cis women can be glam too lol like what? And I'm 5'8" tall
Quote from: stephaniec on March 28, 2014, 04:20:07 PM
from your pictures it's not your face. I don't know but there are guys that will do that to girls just to be jerks and has nothing to do with looks.
Hmmm, I don't know. I just wish I could figure it out
Quote from: Danniella on March 28, 2014, 05:05:26 AM
Yeah I gotta say, I have no doubt that you pass facially, given your photos, but like Victoria says, the photos are very well composed, but do not show any of your body proportions, or the way in which you move or talk.
But it's not your face I'll tell you that for free :)
Unfortunately I can't comment any further without seeing some more natural photos or a video of you in action Xx
I just placed a video on here
Hi llerret! I watched the video and I think I know what is wrong. It is voice the same problem I have. Most of the time it is female, but occasionally it gets deep just like mine when I try to talk too fast or get really nervous or emotional. I have fought it so hard myself, but other than that you are adorable and give no real outward signs people could pick up on. Only my opinion though. :)
Quote from: Victoria Mitchell on March 28, 2014, 03:21:18 AM
Okay, calm down and *breathe*. I can't say anything from your pics. That said, your pics are very... well, they're very well composed. I can't see anything about anything regarding your body, your shoulders, anything. Everything is a glamor shot. So... let's do a little test, shall we? Record a video of you from a distance which will show your whole body in what you would typically wear out on the street. Just talk about something. Anything. Actually, talk about this particular thing and then upload it to vimeo with a random title ("a box tube circle blue three") and post the link here. That'll be enough to at least try to look at the issue in full. You can delete the vid when we're done with the feedback.
I just uploaded a video. I have another uploading on vimeo of me standing and showing my body and stuff that I just took but it says I have to wait 44 minutes lol
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on March 28, 2014, 04:51:54 PM
Hi llerret! I watched the video and I think I know what is wrong. It is voice the same problem I have. Most of the time it is female, but occasionally it gets deep just like mine when I try to talk too fast or get really nervous or emotional. I have fought it so hard myself, but other than that you are adorable and give no real outward signs people could pick up on. Only my opinion though. :)
It may be the voice, yes, but I am talking about when I am randomly walking down the street. I'm not speaking or anything. So it's not the voice in that instance
Quote from: Alaia on March 28, 2014, 01:50:16 AM
Your chin is the biggest indicator to me in that picture. It is vertically longer than the average female, well within the male range. Put your thumb over your chin in that picture and then remove it. You'll see what I mean. Your nose isn't too bad, but a reduction/refinement could help improve your feminine appearance as well.
There may be other masculine markers, but I can't tell with just the frontal pov. A profile and 3/4 view would help.
I should say that this is getting very nit picky. I think you look wonderful, but if you say people are clocking you all the time (not sure why) then that's all I can see for it.
Edit: Actually, I'm going to hold off judgement on your chin. I've looked at your other pictures where it isn't as pronounced as well as compared your chin to several celebrity women smiling the same way. I think it's just this picture.
I uploaded a video if that helps
Okay... well, the video explains some things to me. Do you want the feedback here or in a PM?
Here's another video. I think in this one I see why I don't pass. When I'm far away, my chest/shoulder regain looked super bulky.
http://vimeo.com/90370674
Quote from: llerret on March 28, 2014, 05:45:05 PM
Here's another video. I think in this one I see why I don't pass. When I'm far away, my chest/shoulder regain looked super bulky
http://vimeo.com/90370674
yea, I suppose if your hips were more proportional it would help.
Illerret: Regarding your face I think the makeup/style is great. Your eyes are quite small, you could try wearing large-frame glasses to "mask" the size of your eyes.
When you walk try to be more dynamic with your shoulders, guys are generally more stiff in their upper bodies. Have a "fluid motion"
my "friend" is curious if she passes or not. Be brutally honest too, its not like she's got any self esteem to worry about crushing anyway.
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She has her oreos, so she's happy regardless...
Quote from: piglet smith on March 28, 2014, 06:43:32 PM
my "friend" is curious if she passes or not. Be brutally honest too, its not like she's got any self esteem to worry about crushing anyway.
She has her oreos, so she's happy regardless...
She does as long as she eats the icing from the center first, other than that I dunno!
Quote from: piglet smith on March 28, 2014, 06:43:32 PM
my "friend" is curious if she passes or not. Be brutally honest too, its not like she's got any self esteem to worry about crushing anyway.
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She has her oreos, so she's happy regardless...
Well I think your friend Oreo could pass, but needs a little work. There is a piece missing on the outer cookie letting the creamy filling show, but other that that it passes. A good Keebler Elf surgeon should be able to fix it nicely. ;D
Yes, your REAL "friend" passes very well. I would have picked cis myself. Good job! You look very good. :)
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on March 28, 2014, 06:51:02 PM
Well I think your friend Oreo could pass, but needs a little work. There is a piece missing on the outer cookie letting the creamy filling show, but other that that it passes. A good Keebler Elf surgeon should be able to fix it nicely. ;D
Yes, your REAL "friend" passes very well. I would have picked cis myself. Good job! You look very good. :)
The oreo likes being half naked.
And thanks, my "friend" turned 51 earlier this week and was kind of depressed about it for a few days, but she's better today.
Quote from: piglet smith on March 28, 2014, 06:52:50 PM
The oreo likes being half naked.
And thanks, my "friend" turned 51 earlier this week and was kind of depressed about it for a few days, but she's better today.
Tell her we think she's a doll! Anyway, just a kid yet close to 19 years my junior.
Quote from: piglet smith on March 28, 2014, 06:52:50 PM
The oreo likes being half naked.
And thanks, my "friend" turned 51 earlier this week and was kind of depressed about it for a few days, but she's better today.
Your "friend" doesn't look a day over 40.
Quote from: piglet smith on March 28, 2014, 06:43:32 PM
my "friend" is curious if she passes or not. Be brutally honest too, its not like she's got any self esteem to worry about crushing anyway.
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She has her oreos, so she's happy regardless...
I knew that was you! And honestly, she's an attractive woman. I don't know what all the swamp monster stuff is about.
Quote from: piglet smith on March 28, 2014, 06:43:32 PM
my "friend" is curious if she passes or not. Be brutally honest too, its not like she's got any self esteem to worry about crushing anyway.
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She has her oreos, so she's happy regardless...
your friends not helping curb my eating habits
Quote from: FA on March 28, 2014, 06:59:08 PM
I knew that was you! And honestly, she's an attractive woman. I don't know what all the swamp monster stuff is about.
The name give me away? And thanks, but I still reserve the right to compare myself to all manner of beasts.
Quote from: Sephirah on March 28, 2014, 06:55:44 PM
Your "friend" doesn't look a day over 40.
Pictrieve says I look 55 and my closest lookalike is Betty White.... :o
but thank you. :)
Quote from: Shantel on March 28, 2014, 06:55:05 PM
Tell her we think she's a doll! Anyway, just a kid yet close to 19 years my junior.
The last doll I saw(earlier today when the little girl next door brought her little animal and baby friends to swing on one of my front porch swings) was one of those cabbage patch kids that was half monkey, half baby, lol.
Thank you. ;D
Quote from: stephaniec on March 28, 2014, 06:59:41 PM
your friends not helping curb my eating habits
in my mind, I've reclassified oreos as a vegetable, so actually I'm eating quite healthy...
Quote from: piglet smith on March 28, 2014, 07:07:22 PM
in my mind, I've reclassified oreos as a vegetable, so actually I'm eating quite healthy...
OMG....LMAO :D ;D :laugh:
Quote from: piglet smith on March 28, 2014, 07:07:22 PM
in my mind, I've reclassified oreos as a vegetable, so actually I'm eating quite healthy...
In my mind french fries are healthy too...aren't potatoes healthy and natural?
Quote from: Victoria Mitchell on March 28, 2014, 05:00:11 PM
Okay... well, the video explains some things to me. Do you want the feedback here or in a PM?
You can give me feedback here
Quote from: Natalia on March 28, 2014, 07:12:56 PM
In my mind french fries are healthy too...aren't potatoes healthy and natural?
Most definitely. tater tots are
great healthy too!
Quote from: llerret on March 28, 2014, 04:55:33 PM
I uploaded a video if that helps
Ok, I watched the first video and don't see any issues. Your face has nothing wrong with it. Non-verbals are very feminine. Voice could use some improvement but I know you are looking for visual cues. I just couldn't see any on that video. As far as the second video, I can't see it in your post so can't comment. Might be a problem with the browser on my phone, I'll check again when I get home.
Quote from: Victoria Mitchell on March 27, 2014, 10:31:22 PM
I'm going to point you back a few comments ago where I said that we need a picture... with your hair pulled back... straight on (not lower, like you're doing... actually, that's about the worst camera angle in the world to use) and one from the side (profile view, also with the hair back, pretty please). Don't smile, don't vogue, don't makeup. Those are the criteria which will give me the best ability to figure out your face.
Right now, all that I can say is that no, makeup/wig won't make you pass more than 50% of the time. Give me better pics and I might be able to give you more detailed feedback. I will say that getting your eyebrows plucked down to something like a reasonable thickness will be a godsend for you (but not a cure-all).
i was unaware of those rules sorry :( so i was able to take some quick pic in the proper way. hope this help get a better understanding :)
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Quote from: llerret on March 28, 2014, 04:54:31 PM
It may be the voice, yes, but I am talking about when I am randomly walking down the street. I'm not speaking or anything. So it's not the voice in that instance
It's probably just your swagger and strut. I also watched your video and you showed that your upper body still has some muscle to it, so if you're wearing a sleeveless top, that would work against you.
Quote from: Riley Desgagne on March 28, 2014, 09:10:07 PM
i was unaware of those rules sorry :( so i was able to take some quick pic in the proper way. hope this help get a better understanding :)
Hard to tell, but in the long run I think you might pass fairly well. You look young still, so that's always a huge plus.
Quote from: Riley Desgagne on March 28, 2014, 09:10:07 PM
i was unaware of those rules sorry :( so i was able to take some quick pic in the proper way. hope this help get a better understanding :)
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The reason you have not heard of those rules is because they do not exist
Victoria Mitchell does not make any of the forum rules, she is posting her own particular ideals and critique of others
Granted, a good frontal and profile pic. does help, but it is not a requirement
I have seen some amazing transitions over the years, but transition takes time
Are you planning to see a gender therapist and start HRT?
Quote from: V M on March 28, 2014, 10:55:26 PM
The reason you have not heard of those rules is because they do not exist
Victoria Mitchell does not make any of the forum rules, she is posting her own particular ideals and critique of others
Granted, a good frontal and profile pic. does help, but it is not a requirement
I have seen some amazing transitions over the years, but transition takes time
Are you planning to see a gender therapist and start HRT?
I'm seeing a man at the hinks dale crest centre for gender identity (it was called a consultation so idk what that means really as in I'm not shire if there is a follow up) but my parents and girlfriend don't seem keen on moving too fast with HRT/hormones
I know i have posted here before. but lets see now
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Quote from: llerret on March 28, 2014, 04:44:50 PM
Thank you for the critique. I am seen as very glamourous or whatever but I mean..... cis women can be glam too lol like what? And I'm 5'8" tall
Good, it's not the height, then.
The next bit is to make a general point and one which is a hard pill to swallow for those of us (myself included) who love makeup. We need to find a look that works, if we want to blend and not look faaabulous. People are likely to be wary of telling us that something isn't the best for us.
Note that I'm not saying that we need to look plain and not wear makeup but I would stay away from youtube makeup tutorials unless it's an everyday look video.
Yes, cis women can look too glam to look cis. Watch this video. I know the subjects are extreme examples but take a look at the presenter. She appears at the start without (much?) make up (1m03s) and she looks gorgeous, but for the rest of the video, in what might be "average makeup" she looks trans and if I saw her in the street like that I would certainly be questioning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnTdQEvRMNQ
Quote from: Sheala on March 29, 2014, 05:25:37 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxQ250a9.jpg&hash=3cf1ce26fff8ec3aaf88f6d0307fc38691e7e257)
I see an attractive, feminine person emerging, stick with it hon!
Finally got around to doing the shots and posting, I can't say I feel great about posting vanilla pictures but It's all for the cause.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/Ci6XPfehfIHp0TIzSa-psZyHaFew13M5quuP4fH_yA=w155-h207-p-no)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Dcj8pN8Uj1f5Bxqh7fjx25CUHi5y91IyZC_1fRaCRg=w155-h207-p-no)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/KK-EY2eeOSDE5hlgjzFNs35v66sjuP1YOyz5ummnHA=w155-h207-p-no)
Full size album.
https://plus.google.com/photos/108646963702344126280/albums/5996295972817442225?authkey=CNWYx8uEiYfDIg
Quote from: antonia on March 26, 2014, 10:22:57 PM
Topic says it all, I'll post better full body shots when I figure out how to get the lighting fixed.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mWk0XpBWJH8/UzOYXQU1JhI/AAAAAAAAACY/Nj4OXe9rqeE/w1292-h861-no/IMG_0759.JPG)
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mWk0XpBWJH8/UzOYXQU1JhI/AAAAAAAAACY/Nj4OXe9rqeE/w1292-h861-no/IMG_0759.JPG (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mWk0XpBWJH8/UzOYXQU1JhI/AAAAAAAAACY/Nj4OXe9rqeE/w1292-h861-no/IMG_0759.JPG)
Quote from: Sheala on March 29, 2014, 05:25:37 AM
I know i have posted here before. but lets see now
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F41EIzJd.jpg&hash=221aef8b3155a9fbe872874cef84fea2198df3e4)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxQ250a9.jpg&hash=3cf1ce26fff8ec3aaf88f6d0307fc38691e7e257)
Do I look or could I pass. Are you kidding me? You are looking better than me now! No fair Sis! You look so happy your eyes just shine! :)
Lots of beauties in here!
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on March 29, 2014, 03:33:30 PM
Do I look or could I pass. Are you kidding me? You are looking better than me now! No fair Sis! You look so happy your eyes just shine! :)
sis i am, MUCH happier now.
Quote from: Shantel on March 29, 2014, 10:40:13 AM
I see an attractive, feminine person emerging, stick with it hon!
Thank you both very much.
still not on hormones. am I still passing?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2Fac153482-a7f2-4bac-911f-9e05531513e0_zps6e208c05.jpg&hash=c7ad4ed79d583d4f32c5a372f9c4c097911ba69e)
Wow, are you kidding, you more than pass, you turn heads while you are at it.
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on March 31, 2014, 09:37:01 PM
still not on hormones. am I still passing?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2Fac153482-a7f2-4bac-911f-9e05531513e0_zps6e208c05.jpg&hash=c7ad4ed79d583d4f32c5a372f9c4c097911ba69e)
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on March 31, 2014, 09:37:01 PM
still not on hormones. am I still passing?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2Fac153482-a7f2-4bac-911f-9e05531513e0_zps6e208c05.jpg&hash=c7ad4ed79d583d4f32c5a372f9c4c097911ba69e)
your past the pass. you could be my best friend and i would never know till you told me :)
Quote from: Harlow on December 22, 2013, 04:08:56 PM
Holy crap you're gorgeous!! Skip the andro you went straight to female 100% The mirror thing is so true though. I don't know if it's our minds seeing more familiarity in our own faces and seeing them differently, than seeing a photo that flattens our image and makes us look a little different. I believe it's probably a little bit of both, optics can be tricky I guess :P
haha I looked up more into this phenomena and I think many people deal with this:
http://www.->-bleeped-<-.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/1u0x8o/eli5_why_do_i_look_so_much_better_in_the_mirror/
ik I just posted a pic, but I just took this and this is really my first time ever doing a straight on shot without doing the duck face. do I still pass? and yes I realize my jaw is masculine.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F10152938_772616779424203_1306685059_n_zps924134bd.jpg&hash=e2696f1e02e870703f990fd1b8a41b2278144cfa)
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on April 01, 2014, 12:24:42 AM
ik I just posted a pic, but I just took this and this is really my first time ever doing a straight on shot without doing the duck face. do I still pass? and yes I realize my jaw is masculine.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F10152938_772616779424203_1306685059_n_zps924134bd.jpg&hash=e2696f1e02e870703f990fd1b8a41b2278144cfa)
Nope. No HRT!!?? WTF? You look 100% female already.
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on April 01, 2014, 12:24:42 AM
ik I just posted a pic, but I just took this and this is really my first time ever doing a straight on shot without doing the duck face. do I still pass? and yes I realize my jaw is masculine.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F10152938_772616779424203_1306685059_n_zps924134bd.jpg&hash=e2696f1e02e870703f990fd1b8a41b2278144cfa)
That is totally a pass. You look great! :icon_biggrin:
I've been shy to really show my face. But, since my ex has outed me to her family and most of my closest friends, I guess it doesn't matter so much. So here I am, nervously revealing. I hope I look alright. :icon_biggrin:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs26.postimg.org%2F6prwh1ox1%2FA20140326_224432cropped.jpg&hash=17573d426c09a61b91f228b2cdc90d152d955243) (http://postimg.org/image/6prwh1ox1/)
Great big hugs :icon_hug:
Gloria
5 months on hormones. I know my eyebrows need to get done again and my makeup skills are lacking. Besides that, how am I doing? Brutally honest answers please. :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2Fhv16cm.jpg&hash=a31ab7a360f853ff8984c8fb706bc7ea7952e8fd)
Quote from: EmilyGlass on April 01, 2014, 08:56:33 PM
5 months on hormones. I know my eyebrows need to get done again and my makeup skills are lacking. Besides that, how am I doing? Brutally honest answers please. :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2Fhv16cm.jpg&hash=a31ab7a360f853ff8984c8fb706bc7ea7952e8fd)
Emily, you are doing great, looking sweet and pretty as ever!
Quote from: EmilyGlass on April 01, 2014, 08:56:33 PM
5 months on hormones. I know my eyebrows need to get done again and my makeup skills are lacking. Besides that, how am I doing? Brutally honest answers please. :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2Fhv16cm.jpg&hash=a31ab7a360f853ff8984c8fb706bc7ea7952e8fd)
You look flawless in every way. Imagine you in another two months, or four, or the one year mark? You'll look prettier than most cis girls, and you're already on your way. You're gorgeous!
You're just terribly cute Emily :icon_chick: There, that's as brutal as I can get
Hugs
Quote from: Gloria smiles on April 01, 2014, 11:55:07 AM
I've been shy to really show my face. But, since my ex has outed me to her family and most of my closest friends, I guess it doesn't matter so much. So here I am, nervously revealing. I hope I look alright. :icon_biggrin:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs26.postimg.org%2F6prwh1ox1%2FA20140326_224432cropped.jpg&hash=17573d426c09a61b91f228b2cdc90d152d955243) (http://postimg.org/image/6prwh1ox1/)
Great big hugs :icon_hug:
Gloria
You look good Gloria. :) You have great legs girl so show them off when you can! I love your dress by the way. :)
Quote from: EmilyGlass on April 01, 2014, 08:56:33 PM
5 months on hormones. I know my eyebrows need to get done again and my makeup skills are lacking. Besides that, how am I doing? Brutally honest answers please. :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2Fhv16cm.jpg&hash=a31ab7a360f853ff8984c8fb706bc7ea7952e8fd)
Only 5 months! We should all be so lucky. ;)
Quote from: EmilyGlass on April 01, 2014, 08:56:33 PM
5 months on hormones. I know my eyebrows need to get done again and my makeup skills are lacking. Besides that, how am I doing? Brutally honest answers please. :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2Fhv16cm.jpg&hash=a31ab7a360f853ff8984c8fb706bc7ea7952e8fd)
I think you look great, Emily!
Thanks Jessica. The dress was a gift from a friend, I love it too! :icon_biggrin:
Quote from: Gloria smiles on April 01, 2014, 11:55:07 AM
I've been shy to really show my face. But, since my ex has outed me to her family and most of my closest friends, I guess it doesn't matter so much. So here I am, nervously revealing. I hope I look alright. :icon_biggrin:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs26.postimg.org%2F6prwh1ox1%2FA20140326_224432cropped.jpg&hash=17573d426c09a61b91f228b2cdc90d152d955243) (http://postimg.org/image/6prwh1ox1/)
Great big hugs :icon_hug:
Gloria
I am sorry that your ex does not accept you well. Today I had lunch at a restaurant with my wife while wearing a miniskirt. Nobody cares about us.
Yes. You look beautiful and perfectly passable, although the quality of the photo is not excellent. Enjoy spring!
barbie~~
Quote from: Shantel on April 01, 2014, 08:59:34 PM
Emily, you are doing great, looking sweet and pretty as ever!
Thank you!
Quote from: Chic on April 01, 2014, 09:02:49 PM
You look flawless in every way. Imagine you in another two months, or four, or the one year mark? You'll look prettier than most cis girls, and you're already on your way. You're gorgeous!
Aw, that was sweet. Thank you! I'm really excited for what's to come.
Quote from: V M on April 01, 2014, 09:46:47 PM
You're just terribly cute Emily :icon_chick: There, that's as brutal as I can get
Hugs
Thanks! :)
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on April 01, 2014, 10:07:05 PM
Only 5 months! We should all be so lucky. ;)
Exactly 5 months today.
Quote from: Gloria smiles on April 01, 2014, 11:55:07 AM
I've been shy to really show my face. But, since my ex has outed me to her family and most of my closest friends, I guess it doesn't matter so much. So here I am, nervously revealing. I hope I look alright. :icon_biggrin:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs26.postimg.org%2F6prwh1ox1%2FA20140326_224432cropped.jpg&hash=17573d426c09a61b91f228b2cdc90d152d955243) (http://postimg.org/image/6prwh1ox1/)
Great big hugs :icon_hug:
Gloria
You look more fem than alot of us. Hopefully being outed leads to your ultimate happiness. What am I talking about "hopefully". Get ready for good times and a great life! :D
Quote from: barbie on April 01, 2014, 11:53:03 PM
I am sorry that your ex does not accept you well. Today I had lunch at a restaurant with my wife while wearing a miniskirt. Nobody cares about us.
Yes. You look beautiful and perfectly passable, although the quality of the photo is not excellent. Enjoy spring!
barbie~~
Thanks Barbie, you're very kind.
Quote from: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on April 02, 2014, 11:13:16 AM
You look more fem than alot of us. Hopefully being outed leads to your ultimate happiness. What am I talking about "hopefully". Get ready for good times and a great life! :D
Thanks Lara. I'm taking my being outed as an opportunity to get rid of the closet. Instead of destroying me, she liberated me!
Great Big Hugs :icon_hug:
Gloria
how do u post vids?
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on April 01, 2014, 12:24:42 AM
ik I just posted a pic, but I just took this and this is really my first time ever doing a straight on shot without doing the duck face. do I still pass? and yes I realize my jaw is masculine.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F10152938_772616779424203_1306685059_n_zps924134bd.jpg&hash=e2696f1e02e870703f990fd1b8a41b2278144cfa)
Your doing great, definitely a hottie in that photo! :angel:
Still no hormones...I want to do the best I can to look my best and stay confident without hormones, so I want to see if I'm doing a good job so far. Other than lipstick, I'm not wearing any make-up, so if anyone has any make-up tips it'd be really helpful :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fs7JKFBK.jpg%3F3%3F9942&hash=d72b35bbdc30e66a4368332feea3a7483912b2f7)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fh1C0Mtk.jpg%3F2&hash=2e4ce6e1bf6bcfe4b75a236d49ccb7ffc8362c0b)
Quote from: riversong on April 03, 2014, 03:40:54 PM
Still no hormones...I want to do the best I can to look my best and stay confident without hormones, so I want to see if I'm doing a good job so far. Other than lipstick, I'm not wearing any make-up, so if anyone has any make-up tips it'd be really helpful :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fs7JKFBK.jpg%3F3%3F9942&hash=d72b35bbdc30e66a4368332feea3a7483912b2f7)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fh1C0Mtk.jpg%3F2&hash=2e4ce6e1bf6bcfe4b75a236d49ccb7ffc8362c0b)
Although the quality of the photos is poor, you seem to pass very well to me eyes.
barbie~~
Testin out my new laptops webcam..iz not impressed. Freshly removed makeup:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7414/13611418133_cbb167868b_b.jpg)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3821/13611414005_5172603a73_b.jpg)
I look like a little boy lol but for some reason I pass looking like this, must be my voice
"I look like a little boy lol"
haha...no...way...you look like a boy XD
we are our own worst critics...thats what they say a lot here...
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on April 03, 2014, 05:41:07 PM
Testin out my new laptops webcam..iz not impressed. Freshly removed makeup:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7414/13611418133_cbb167868b_b.jpg)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3821/13611414005_5172603a73_b.jpg)
I look like a little boy lol but for some reason I pass looking like this, must be my voice
well for 1 ur wearin eyeliner so u have makeup on, but u look like a girl.
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on April 03, 2014, 05:49:15 PM
well for 1 ur wearin eyeliner so u have makeup on, but u look like a girl.
No! Not a bit of eyeliner, hand to god. Pre transition people used to ask if I wore makeup aall the time cuz I had such thick, dark lashes. All I wore today was foundation, blush, and mascara, and I just removed it all right before taking these haha. But thankss!
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on April 03, 2014, 05:58:06 PM
No! Not a bit of eyeliner, hand to god. Pre transition people used to ask if I wore makeup aall the time cuz I had such thick, dark lashes. All I wore today was foundation, blush, and mascara, and I just removed it all right before taking these haha. But thankss!
You remind me of Sky Ferreira. Not in looks (well, if you had longer hair maybe, I'm not sure) but in the insistence that your eye appearance is natural. She has rather dark circles under her eyes, and they're natural (she does accentuate them, though). It's awesome to see people who naturally look like they have makeup on even when they haven't actually applied it.
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on April 03, 2014, 05:41:07 PM
Testin out my new laptops webcam..iz not impressed. Freshly removed makeup:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7414/13611418133_cbb167868b_b.jpg)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3821/13611414005_5172603a73_b.jpg)
I look like a little boy lol but for some reason I pass looking like this, must be my voice
Definitely pass! You're very attractive ^^
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on April 03, 2014, 05:41:07 PM
Testin out my new laptops webcam..iz not impressed. Freshly removed makeup:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7414/13611418133_cbb167868b_b.jpg)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3821/13611414005_5172603a73_b.jpg)
I look like a little boy lol but for some reason I pass looking like this, must be my voice
There is no way you look like a little boy, you look great!
Quote from: riversong on April 03, 2014, 03:40:54 PM
Still no hormones...I want to do the best I can to look my best and stay confident without hormones, so I want to see if I'm doing a good job so far. Other than lipstick, I'm not wearing any make-up, so if anyone has any make-up tips it'd be really helpful :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fs7JKFBK.jpg%3F3%3F9942&hash=d72b35bbdc30e66a4368332feea3a7483912b2f7)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fh1C0Mtk.jpg%3F2&hash=2e4ce6e1bf6bcfe4b75a236d49ccb7ffc8362c0b)
Thank you for your reply Barbie!
So, I get the impression I'm not getting too many replies because people are finding me unpassable or unattractive. Just wanna say, please don't refrain from commenting if you don't find me passable! I'm a bug girl, I can take brutal honesty :)
Quote from: riversong on April 03, 2014, 10:10:25 PM
Thank you for your reply Barbie!
So, I get the impression I'm not getting too many replies because people are finding me unpassable or unattractive. Just wanna say, please don't refrain from commenting if you don't find me passable! I'm a bug girl, I can take brutal honesty :)
I don't get that many comments on my pics, but yea u pass. people prolly wernt commenting cause u was all the way at the bottom of the thread.
Quote from: riversong on April 03, 2014, 03:40:54 PM
Still no hormones...I want to do the best I can to look my best and stay confident without hormones, so I want to see if I'm doing a good job so far. Other than lipstick, I'm not wearing any make-up, so if anyone has any make-up tips it'd be really helpful :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fs7JKFBK.jpg%3F3%3F9942&hash=d72b35bbdc30e66a4368332feea3a7483912b2f7)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fh1C0Mtk.jpg%3F2&hash=2e4ce6e1bf6bcfe4b75a236d49ccb7ffc8362c0b)
I think you look great ^^ especially considering you're pre HRT.
Quote from: Chic on April 03, 2014, 08:45:01 PM
You remind me of Sky Ferreira. Not in looks (well, if you had longer hair maybe, I'm not sure) but in the insistence that your eye appearance is natural. She has rather dark circles under her eyes, and they're natural (she does accentuate them, though). It's awesome to see people who naturally look like they have makeup on even when they haven't actually applied it.
I have this really bad, it makes you look dead without makeup ;o; don't rub your eyes people
also unrelated but where could I post a pic to see honestly if I could pass as a boy? I sorta wouldn't feel right taking up the FTM guys' thread....
Quote from: sad panda on April 04, 2014, 01:58:40 AM
I have this really bad, it makes you look dead without makeup ;o; don't rub your eyes people
also unrelated but where could I post a pic to see honestly if I could pass as a boy? I sorta wouldn't feel right taking up the FTM guys' thread....
I'm not sure what the rules are on this thread, being new and all, but I'd give you honest feedback ^_^
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on April 03, 2014, 05:41:07 PM
Testin out my new laptops webcam..iz not impressed. Freshly removed makeup:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7414/13611418133_cbb167868b_b.jpg)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3821/13611414005_5172603a73_b.jpg)
I look like a little boy lol but for some reason I pass looking like this, must be my voice
You look good and you have a very high chance of passing. :)
Quote from: riversong on April 03, 2014, 10:10:25 PM
Thank you for your reply Barbie!
So, I get the impression I'm not getting too many replies because people are finding me unpassable or unattractive. Just wanna say, please don't refrain from commenting if you don't find me passable! I'm a bug girl, I can take brutal honesty :)
No way! Personally, I didn't reply because I still kinda suck at makeup and didn't have any advice. >.< For pre-HRT you look awesome.
Quote from: sad panda on April 04, 2014, 01:58:40 AM
also unrelated but where could I post a pic to see honestly if I could pass as a boy? I sorta wouldn't feel right taking up the FTM guys' thread....
Go to the Androgyne forum and post it in "The official you look alright" thread.
Just back from shopping ^.^ No makeup, though I should do my nails probly and some cover up. Honest opinions, suggestions?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEPuxNDZ.jpg&hash=ee0f4adf77e8cecb2ff34c355c8d216d6303690d)
Quote from: AshleeLC on April 04, 2014, 02:36:13 PM
Just back from shopping ^.^ No makeup, though I should do my nails probly and some cover up. Honest opinions, suggestions?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEPuxNDZ.jpg&hash=ee0f4adf77e8cecb2ff34c355c8d216d6303690d)
Adorbs, cool trans necklace, but how do you keep your hair that blonde :o? I did noot have the energy for that when I went blonde.
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on April 04, 2014, 02:46:08 PM
Adorbs, cool trans necklace, but how do you keep your hair that blonde :o? I did noot have the energy for that when I went blonde.
Unrelated, but do you have Skype?
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on April 04, 2014, 02:46:08 PM
Adorbs, cool trans necklace, but how do you keep your hair that blonde :o? I did noot have the energy for that when I went blonde.
Originally I had died it black, then i bleached it back to blonde ^.^ Works like a charm :) Altho honestly I think just bleaching, i got to reddish and white scattered across my head and its mellowed out in the past few months to that shade of blonde. That and Ive been the Main and Tail Shampoo and Condit, thot it would hurry my hair out, it did a lil, but it really made my hair all shiny C:
Quote from: Chic on April 04, 2014, 04:03:53 PM
Unrelated, but do you have Skype?
Me or jussmoi4nao?
Quote from: AshleeLC on April 04, 2014, 04:09:26 PM
Originally I had died it black, then i bleached it back to blonde ^.^ Works like a charm :) Altho honestly I think just bleaching, i got to reddish and white scattered across my head and its mellowed out in the past few months to that shade of blonde. That and Ive been the Main and Tail Shampoo and Condit, thot it would hurry my hair out, it did a lil, but it really made my hair all shiny C:
Me or jussmoi4nao?
Yeah, see I did the same thing. I'm naturally dark brown haired buy I dyed it black then bleached it blonde, and for almost a month I had a nice, white blonde, but then it started getting brassy and orange for some reason even though I used toner and my dark roots were coming in like an inch and I was just like F this I'm going brown again. Buut now I have a nice mix of dark and light browns and golds so it worked out.
I can't wait for my hair to get looong tho hahah xD
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on April 04, 2014, 05:10:43 PM
Yeah, see I did the same thing. I'm naturally dark brown haired buy I dyed it black then bleached it blonde, and for almost a month I had a nice, white blonde, but then it started getting brassy and orange for some reason even though I used toner and my dark roots were coming in like an inch and I was just like F this I'm going brown again. Buut now I have a nice mix of dark and light browns and golds so it worked out.
I can't wait for my hair to get looong tho hahah xD
Your hair in your profy looks gorgeous, I think Id rather have that than mine. My roots are starting to show a bit more, but im not sure what Ill do, as I want to grow my hair out as fast as possible, and bleach kinda damages it. Decisions decisions lol. Im like dark blonde normally, so its not too horrible a difference xD
Id love for my hiar to grow sayy, 7 inches overnight, id be like "hell yea" lol
Quote from: AshleeLC on April 04, 2014, 05:20:04 PM
Your hair in your profy looks gorgeous, I think Id rather have that than mine. My roots are starting to show a bit more, but im not sure what Ill do, as I want to grow my hair out as fast as possible, and bleach kinda damages it. Decisions decisions lol. Im like dark blonde normally, so its not too horrible a difference xD
Id love for my hiar to grow sayy, 7 inches overnight, id be like "hell yea" lol
Aww thanks, it has its ups and downs, but I seriously love your hair. Blonde suits you, and when its long its gona be fantastic. I can't pull it off cuz my natural hair is reaally dark brown so my roots look stupid against blonde when they start coming in, which is pretty fast.
Yeah, honestly? 7 inches Id be at like 12, 13 inches. I would be so thrilllled xD buut patience is a virtue I guess..tho I've never been very virtuous :\
Quote from: AshleeLC on April 04, 2014, 04:09:26 PM
Originally I had died it black, then i bleached it back to blonde ^.^ Works like a charm :) Altho honestly I think just bleaching, i got to reddish and white scattered across my head and its mellowed out in the past few months to that shade of blonde. That and Ive been the Main and Tail Shampoo and Condit, thot it would hurry my hair out, it did a lil, but it really made my hair all shiny C:
Me or jussmoi4nao?
jussmoi4nao, but you'd be awesome to talk to as well! (:
Quote from: Nattie on April 04, 2014, 03:06:58 AM
I'm not sure what the rules are on this thread, being new and all, but I'd give you honest feedback ^_^
Ok well it's hard to find a true to life pic but here (http://i.imgur.com/b4nUODq.jpg) is sorta what I look like now...idk why it makes my head look so much bigger than reality but I guess keep in mind that I am proportioned like a totally average girl... it seems harder to pass as male in person than in pics but.
I'm not gonna give up the long hair and I'm not wearing makeup there but ofc I'd bind and I guess the wardrobe would *have* to change... oh well. And please don't tell me "ohhh you look so girly," that's not what I wanna hear at all, just honest opinions.
EDIT: yah just to show how much distortion happens in pics, here is a dumpy other pic of me: pic (http://i.imgur.com/l8jMHRZ.jpg)
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on April 04, 2014, 05:32:28 PM
Aww thanks, it has its ups and downs, but I seriously love your hair. Blonde suits you, and when its long its gona be fantastic. I can't pull it off cuz my natural hair is reaally dark brown so my roots look stupid against blonde when they start coming in, which is pretty fast.
Yeah, honestly? 7 inches Id be at like 12, 13 inches. I would be so thrilllled xD buut patience is a virtue I guess..tho I've never been very virtuous :\
Lol id be happy with 12 or 13 inches too, but i was trying to keep it "realistic" xD.
I cant wait for my hair to grow out nice and long, Ill be ecstatic, party lol. You honestly look great with the hair at its current length, its quite cute, but Im sure when it gets longer youl be quite model worthy, and give those cis girls a run for there money :)
Quote from: sad panda on April 04, 2014, 11:50:49 PM
Ok well it's hard to find a true to life pic but here (http://i.imgur.com/b4nUODq.jpg) is sorta what I look like now...idk why it makes my head look so much bigger than reality but I guess keep in mind that I am proportioned like a totally average girl... it seems harder to pass as male in person than in pics but.
I'm not gonna give up the long hair and I'm not wearing makeup there but ofc I'd bind and I guess the wardrobe would *have* to change... oh well. And please don't tell me "ohhh you look so girly," that's not what I wanna hear at all, just honest opinions.
EDIT: yah just to show how much distortion happens in pics, here is a dumpy other pic of me: pic (http://i.imgur.com/l8jMHRZ.jpg)
In the first pic you look a bit androgynous. Still female but I could see you passing as a boy with effort, but it'd def take effort. In the second one, I dunno, you look more feminine but you also look like Kate Moss. As a boy I'd see you as looking similar to Cillian Murphy.
Quote from: riversong on April 03, 2014, 10:10:25 PM
Thank you for your reply Barbie!
So, I get the impression I'm not getting too many replies because people are finding me unpassable or unattractive. Just wanna say, please don't refrain from commenting if you don't find me passable! I'm a bug girl, I can take brutal honesty :)
Riversong,
I think your attitude and confidence will be more critical in passing than your appearance. Here in my hometown, nearly everybody watches me whether they know I am a dad or not. Most people accept and regard my expression of femininity, once they know that it is not just a hobby or a queer thing, but I am serious about that. Passing is actually meaningless to me.
Always be confident.
barbie~~
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on April 05, 2014, 03:15:31 AM
In the first pic you look a bit androgynous. Still female but I could see you passing as a boy with effort, but it'd def take effort. In the second one, I dunno, you look more feminine but you also look like Kate Moss. As a boy I'd see you as looking similar to Cillian Murphy.
Cillian Murphy????? :D Gurl he's like 6' and lanky, idk about that. Thanks though. I'm not trying to force anything, like I said I'm not gonna chop off my hair or anything drastic, just wondering I can fall on the boy side of andro without giving up glam. Maybe something like Christian Siriano if he went off the deep end. Hahah.
(I totally get what you are saying though. Even if it's not exactly like in pics I always felt like there's something more definitely male about my face and that it's my overall size that keeps me from passing as one) :)
Quote from: sad panda on April 05, 2014, 03:32:36 AM
Cillian Murphy????? :D Gurl he's like 6' and lanky, idk about that. Thanks though. I'm not trying to force anything, like I said I'm not gonna chop off my hair or anything drastic, just wondering I can fall on the boy side of andro without giving up glam. Maybe something like Christian Siriano if he went off the deep end. Hahah.
(I totally get what you are saying though. Even if it's not exactly like in pics I always felt like there's something more definitely male about my face and that it's my overall size that keeps me from passing as one) :)
Haha I was talking strictly about the features:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.wegotthiscovered.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2FCillian-Murphy.jpg&hash=ee4bd2c508cd0bf1607b67509415c3e31ec0d4e2)
I think its mostly the eyes and mouth. I think Cillian has beautifully androgynous features. The difference is his presentation leans male andyours leans more female but I feel like with effort one way or the otherboth of you could pull of either (he's 5'9 btw).
If you bound (cuz gurrrl/boi, you bleessed haha), wore masculine clothing, and tried to sound like a dude (altho don't try too hard cuz I did at one point and just got called a dyke haha) and styled your hair a bit different (im so fraacking jelly of your hair btw) I feel like you could pass as a long haired guy and be quite good looking.
Quote from: sad panda on April 04, 2014, 11:50:49 PM
Ok well it's hard to find a true to life pic but here (http://i.imgur.com/b4nUODq.jpg) is sorta what I look like now...idk why it makes my head look so much bigger than reality but I guess keep in mind that I am proportioned like a totally average girl... it seems harder to pass as male in person than in pics but.
I'm not gonna give up the long hair and I'm not wearing makeup there but ofc I'd bind and I guess the wardrobe would *have* to change... oh well. And please don't tell me "ohhh you look so girly," that's not what I wanna hear at all, just honest opinions.
EDIT: yah just to show how much distortion happens in pics, here is a dumpy other pic of me: pic (http://i.imgur.com/l8jMHRZ.jpg)
Okay, although you do have feminine features, I think the things that
scream feminine are the eyebrows (esp.) and the hair. With the ponytail in the 2nd picture, you need to pull the bangs straight and pulled back with the rest of the hair, with your hair out (like in the first picture) your hair has too many highlights and looks too soft/nice (hehe) for a guys hair. You'd need to cut it all to one dead length and/or dye it a straight up consistant brown throughout, and maybe not wash it for a few days :P With your feminine features, wearing your hair like that would certainly make you look more androgynous. The eyebrows are your most feminine feature though, stop plucking from beneath so that the raised arch vanishes somewhat, you want it thicker and flatter. Because you have very soft facial features (your lips, eyes, and skin in general) you need to offset this by presenting some more masculinity in the things you can alter in order to be more androgynous, otherwise you'll just look tomboyish.
Quote from: barbie on April 05, 2014, 03:24:39 AM
Riversong,
I think your attitude and confidence will be more critical in passing than your appearance. Here in my hometown, nearly everybody watches me whether they know I am a dad or not. Most people accept and regard my expression of femininity, once they know that it is not just a hobby or a queer thing, but I am serious about that. Passing is actually meaningless to me.
Always be confident.
barbie~~
barbie~~, but how can you be sure they are "accepting and regarding" ?? I, too, live in an Asian community and noticed the stares. Asians are much more reserved in their reactions in general, and if something has caused them to watch and stare, then I would know I'm not being perceived in a right and natural way. That something appears out of place. A man who's feminine acting yet confident just doesn't make him pass alone. I know it's going to take a lot more than just dressing like a teeny girl and confidence. Getting stared at is a symptom of this happening, stares to me mean I've been clocked which I would consider far from being accepted and regarding. That's why I need to be sure I truly pass as female so my confidence can go hand in hand and isn't overconfidence.
Quote from: Evelyn K on April 05, 2014, 12:14:54 PM
barbie~~, but how can you be sure they are "accepting and regarding" ?? I, too, live in an Asian community and noticed the stares. Asians are much more reserved in their reactions in general, and if something has caused them to watch and stare, then I would know I'm not being perceived in a right and natural way. That something appears out of place. A man who's feminine acting yet confident just won't make him pass alone. I know it's going to take a lot more than just confidence. Getting stared at is a symptom of this happening, stares mean I've been clocked which I would consider far from being accepted and regarding. That's why I need to be sure I truly pass as female so my confidence can go hand in hand and isn't overconfidence.
Yes. A good point.
Strangers in the street have no business with me. I do not care whether I pass or not to their eyes. I am saying my acquaintances.
Most people I interact with every day know that I am a dad. They include college and graduate students, post-docs, and other university folks. Female colleagues tend to be closer (both spatially and psychologically) to me when I wear skirts and heels. Male colleagues praise my sense of fashion, as most women here wear plain and dull clothes.
I know that there can be some people who dislike me. But, what can they do to prevent me from expressing myself? Nothing. Just avoiding me is their best measure. I have many friends and colleagues to interact and spend time together in restaurants and touring places. In every week, at the least 3-4 guests visit my home town (the most famous tourist destination in my country).
The point is that people evaluate and regard you based on your career, professional performance and attitude, not by your beauty. Thus, passing is nearly meaningless to me, although I prefer passing to strangers in the street.
barbie~~
That's cool. Barbie would you consider yourself a transgender or are you really a cross-dresser?
Newest pictures:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxqQWNlT.jpg&hash=44447dd88525f494e917da53e99b655d4ca53cf2)
Top right is my natural hair
Still pre-everything
The earliest I can start HRT is in a year and five months.
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on April 05, 2014, 08:15:15 AM
Haha I was talking strictly about the features:
[pic of cillian]
I think its mostly the eyes and mouth. I think Cillian has beautifully androgynous features. The difference is his presentation leans male andyours leans more female but I feel like with effort one way or the otherboth of you could pull of either (he's 5'9 btw).
If you bound (cuz gurrrl/boi, you bleessed haha), wore masculine clothing, and tried to sound like a dude (altho don't try too hard cuz I did at one point and just got called a dyke haha) and styled your hair a bit different (im so fraacking jelly of your hair btw) I feel like you could pass as a long haired guy and be quite good looking.
I guess what's throwing me off is the jaw hahah. I have such an underdeveloped jaw ;o; but yeah I can see the eyes. And once your hair is longer it will be super pretty and probably look similar so <3
Quote from: Nattie on April 05, 2014, 08:47:52 AM
Okay, although you do have feminine features, I think the things that scream feminine are the eyebrows (esp.) and the hair. With the ponytail in the 2nd picture, you need to pull the bangs straight and pulled back with the rest of the hair, with your hair out (like in the first picture) your hair has too many highlights and looks too soft/nice (hehe) for a guys hair. You'd need to cut it all to one dead length and/or dye it a straight up consistant brown throughout, and maybe not wash it for a few days :P With your feminine features, wearing your hair like that would certainly make you look more androgynous. The eyebrows are your most feminine feature though, stop plucking from beneath so that the raised arch vanishes somewhat, you want it thicker and flatter. Because you have very soft facial features (your lips, eyes, and skin in general) you need to offset this by presenting some more masculinity in the things you can alter in order to be more androgynous, otherwise you'll just look tomboyish.
Okay well thanks for your honest opinion
I don't know, you guys think I have to go masculine instead? I can do the brows, a pony tail with my hairline visible, idk, any updo seems to make it way harder to pass as a boy but maybe it's different with the whole deal. Messy... yah I won't do unclean or short hair. Clothes I could make androgynous but not drab. Still haven't tried buying boy clothes though, maybe I will look at unisex stuff.
At some point I'll try to do this stuff and post another pic later. Thanks for all your help. :)
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@chic cute :) sorry if I haven't heard but why do u have to wait for HRT? Is it cause you're too young?
Quote from: sad panda on April 05, 2014, 03:23:49 PM
I guess what's throwing me off is the jaw hahah. I have such an underdeveloped jaw ;o; but yeah I can see the eyes. And once your hair is longer it will be super pretty and probably look similar so <3
Okay well thanks for your honest opinion
I don't know, you guys think I have to go masculine instead? I can do the brows, a pony tail with my hairline visible, idk, any updo seems to make it way harder to pass as a boy but maybe it's different with the whole deal. Messy... yah I won't do unclean or short hair. Clothes I could make androgynous but not drab. Still haven't tried buying boy clothes though, maybe I will look at unisex stuff.
At some point I'll try to do this stuff and post another pic later. Thanks for all your help. :)
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@chic cute :) sorry if I haven't heard but why do u have to wait for HRT? Is it cause you're too young?
There are certain rules on here regarding one's age that I can't break, so I won't be specific, but yes, it does have to do with being too young
Awww that sucks. Well hope you get it as soon as you can (:
Quote from: sad panda on April 04, 2014, 11:50:49 PM
Ok well it's hard to find a true to life pic but here (http://i.imgur.com/b4nUODq.jpg) is sorta what I look like now...idk why it makes my head look so much bigger than reality but I guess keep in mind that I am proportioned like a totally average girl... it seems harder to pass as male in person than in pics but.
I'm not gonna give up the long hair and I'm not wearing makeup there but ofc I'd bind and I guess the wardrobe would *have* to change... oh well. And please don't tell me "ohhh you look so girly," that's not what I wanna hear at all, just honest opinions.
EDIT: yah just to show how much distortion happens in pics, here is a dumpy other pic of me: pic (http://i.imgur.com/l8jMHRZ.jpg)
Well you'd have to stop taking hormones to make you skin less smooth, you'd def have to stop plucking your eyebrows, cut your hair to chin length, and then, yeah you could. Your presentation would have to totally change. I have the same problem with pics. In them, I look too male for my tastes, but in person, someone called me little mama today (it happens all the time causse that's what women get called in philly, at least young women, if your older, your mommy)...anyhoo, I said "Don't call me Little mama I'm a dude...even in my best dude voice...and dude looked at me like I was psychotic...so I told him I was just high and messing with him and then he just like "ahight girl." I wasn't wearing makeup (well except for foundation and some light blush, but nothing dramtic or noticable) and I'm pretty sure he thought I was nuts or freebasing but once u pass a certain point it become much harder especially if ur andro before hand, which I believe you were.
I guess my point is that yeah you could do it but you'd have to stop hormones and plucking (at least such a femm arch). Point blank. You could keep the hair for the most part, NO UP DOs, and you'd pass.
But, you
More boyish than the last, no makeup, tho I did put mascara on last night, so it might be lingering. But to hell with it ^.^
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkN9AEA8.jpg&hash=547c727b1a776a836ce0b27394ad034a0bd8a675)
Quote from: AshleeLC on April 06, 2014, 02:30:16 AM
More boyish than the last, no makeup, tho I did put mascara on last night, so it might be lingering. But to hell with it ^.^
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkN9AEA8.jpg&hash=547c727b1a776a836ce0b27394ad034a0bd8a675)
HAH, I have that same exact shirt.
You look pretty fem to me or more specifically....androfem (is that a word??).
Hey Hey Hey,
Big weekend spending spree = Yay new photos!
I am soooooo bloody happy that my breasts have developed to a stage where I don't really need a breastform any more...sure they are small but they are real and they are mine <3
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F209hSZw.jpg&hash=505077529f8c0825f7ecbc3ac24df206b57a9a2b)
My hips are rather filling out, which is niiiiiice
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLAlqgIq.jpg&hash=4b7263db3799ba6b6ee6324bdf5f427ae7a3840e)
I get really shocked when I see a side/rear profile nowadays...where did dat ass come from!?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEoTyqkH.jpg&hash=4b2b415dca412b86904fbc9ac174781100702f29)
I really need to learn how to take better selfies...these angles are haaaard and fairly unflattering
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFUNqwr0.jpg&hash=eb386eb824a917c377e1626b6d539a459e33ba1e)
Super up close creepy shot
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRXBp1M3.jpg&hash=95c60739171392f436545d364ab1723be921b290)
4 months in and overall i'm happy with how things are going, seeing more and more o myself in the mirror each day :)
Thoughts/opinions always welcome! <3
Quote from: AshleeLC on April 06, 2014, 02:30:16 AM
More boyish than the last, no makeup, tho I did put mascara on last night, so it might be lingering. But to hell with it ^.^
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkN9AEA8.jpg&hash=547c727b1a776a836ce0b27394ad034a0bd8a675)
All girl, so cute!
Quote from: Danniella on April 06, 2014, 10:07:56 AM
Hey Hey Hey,
Big weekend spending spree = Yay new photos!
I am soooooo bloody happy that my breasts have developed to a stage where I don't really need a breastform any more...sure they are small but they are real and they are mine <3
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F209hSZw.jpg&hash=505077529f8c0825f7ecbc3ac24df206b57a9a2b)
My hips are rather filling out, which is niiiiiice
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLAlqgIq.jpg&hash=4b7263db3799ba6b6ee6324bdf5f427ae7a3840e)
I get really shocked when I see a side/rear profile nowadays...where did dat ass come from!?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEoTyqkH.jpg&hash=4b2b415dca412b86904fbc9ac174781100702f29)
I really need to learn how to take better selfies...these angles are haaaard and fairly unflattering
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFUNqwr0.jpg&hash=eb386eb824a917c377e1626b6d539a459e33ba1e)
Super up close creepy shot
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRXBp1M3.jpg&hash=95c60739171392f436545d364ab1723be921b290)
4 months in and overall i'm happy with how things are going, seeing more and more o myself in the mirror each day :)
Thoughts/opinions always welcome! <3
Looking great Danniella. Your filling out nicely. I'm about like you with my boobs. Yes they're growing and have rounded out but they're still small. My biological Mom wasn't that big so I don't expect I'll be more than a B cup at the most. But they're all naturale and mine all mine, and I'm proud of them so far.
You really are blooming girl. I can't wait to see photos of you after you've been on hrt for a year or more. And wait til that hair grows out!! I'll have finally posted some of me before then as well. I plan to post them at the 6 month mark.
Quote from: Evelyn K on April 05, 2014, 01:18:52 PM
That's cool. Barbie would you consider yourself a transgender or are you really a cross-dresser?
Those labels are not important to me, but I consider myself as both of them.
Today I was in a beach here with my daughter.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7007/13669078664_82c1ce19c9_o.jpg)
barbie~~
Quote from: Danniella on April 06, 2014, 10:07:56 AM
Hey Hey Hey,
Big weekend spending spree = Yay new photos!
I get really shocked when I see a side/rear profile nowadays...where did dat ass come from!?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEoTyqkH.jpg&hash=4b2b415dca412b86904fbc9ac174781100702f29)
4 months in and overall i'm happy with how things are going, seeing more and more o myself in the mirror each day :)
Thoughts/opinions always welcome! <3
Yeah you got it. Definitely looking feminine. I won't say it if I don't mean it. You are passing!
Quote from: barbie on April 06, 2014, 11:42:15 AM
Those labels are not important to me, but I consider myself as both of them.
Today I was in a beach here with my daughter.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7007/13669078664_82c1ce19c9_o.jpg)
barbie~~
I can't say you pass, the short cheerleader skirts are just not fit for your age and isn't really complimenting you. The outfits are too school-girl like and makes your legs and arms appear lanky when it doesn't have to be.
You would appear much more passable if you dressed closer to your age and conservatively. Seriously.
Quote from: Evelyn K on April 06, 2014, 12:23:44 PM
I can't say you pass, the short cheerleader skirts are just not fit for your age and isn't really complimenting you. The outfits are too school-girl like and makes your legs and arms appear lanky when it doesn't have to be.
You would appear much more passable if you dressed closer to your age and conservatively. Seriously.
I disagree, Barbie is Barbie and she has her own sense of style that suits her personal tastes. I wouldn't waste any time trying to make anyone to conform to how I dress and present myself publicly, it's no-one else's business and frankly pretty nervy.
I guess, but some moderate opinion is needed.
Not trying to be mean at all, but remember this thread topic is:
Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 2.0
not
Do I Make A Fashion Statement?
Quote from: Evelyn K on April 06, 2014, 01:12:32 PM
I guess, but some moderate opinion is needed.
Not trying to be mean at all, but remember this thread topic is:
Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 2.0
not
Do I Make A Fashion Statement?
True, but some of the best dressed trans women here will never look truly female or pass and that's a given, meanwhile I try to focus on what they are doing right rather than the negatives. We build one another up focusing on positive aspects of people's presentation. I for one would never pass and find that it's not really important for me, but we do have folks who are narcissistic and love to put up photos of themselves and I want to respect that and temper my criticism about those things that aren't perfect because we are all painfully aware of our imperfections already.
Concurred and I appreciate what you said immensely. It does keep me humble.
Let's carry on.
Quote from: Evelyn K on April 06, 2014, 01:23:16 PM
Concurred and I appreciate what you said immensely. It does keep me humble.
Let's carry on.
Atta girl Evelyn, you're a keeper dear! xox Shan
Shantel nicely put ;)
& Yes lets move on 8)
Quote from: Evelyn K on April 06, 2014, 12:23:44 PM
I can't say you pass, the short cheerleader skirts are just not fit for your age and isn't really complimenting you. The outfits are too school-girl like and makes your legs and arms appear lanky when it doesn't have to be.
You would appear much more passable if you dressed closer to your age and conservatively. Seriously.
Uh Oh.
Actually I did not go out today to pass, but to enjoy the spring with my family. That is what I usually wear at home and my work place.
Definitely it was not for sensible fashion. However, I will welcome critical feedback regarding my fashion in another thread: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,158990.0.html
Evelyn is right in some sense, as my wife and some of my friends say I will look better if wearing a longer skirt. I like wearing like teen girls.
I do not try hard to pass, but I sometimes do care about my fashion, especially when I meet other people or attend a formal meeting.
Cheers,
barbie~~
You look MUCH BETTER in the first post!
Just saying ;)
Barbie you have amazing legs I would want to flaunt them too!! And without HRT o.O amazing!
I don't know how long or when it happened but I can now say I finally have girl legs!! Woohoo :laugh:
I've always been very skinny and my knees always looked knobby to me, but I've gotten a little fat in my knees now and am flaunting them this spring too. I was always wearing leggings with my skirts and dresses, and just started to wear them without leggings. Feels great to let my legs free, I think I may never wear pants ever again lol! My favorite dresses lately are floor length jersey dresses, just feels so nice to not be so confined in pants all the time I feel like I can breathe!
Anyway you always look great Barbie, and short skirts are your thing, so you just do your thang ;)
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For the love of God please tell me I at least somewhat pass...Forgive me the dazed look as I was slightly hung over. :/
I've found that the only way to get a straight objective answer is to actually ask covertly in a cis gendered mainstream forum like over at makeuptalk
That would be like real world honest feedback.
I see this thread as more of a place for gentle positive encouragement rather than flat out criticism. That is, the focus is not so much on the "do I look female" as the "could I look female". It's the place for works in progress, or those who just don't necessarily want to adhere to traditional feminine beauty standards (which are hard enough for cisgender women to live up to, let alone us.)
That said, I'm also for unreserved and honest criticism, but I'd be inclined to provide it only when explicitly invited to do so. I wouldn't necessarily see a photo in this thread as automatically implying permission to write blunt words of criticism, but instead words of positive reinforcement and encouragement.
The title is misleading though! Perhaps renaming it to something like "How am I doing?" might help?
Quote from: Allyda on April 06, 2014, 11:09:05 AM
Looking great Danniella. Your filling out nicely. I'm about like you with my boobs. Yes they're growing and have rounded out but they're still small. My biological Mom wasn't that big so I don't expect I'll be more than a B cup at the most. But they're all naturale and mine all mine, and I'm proud of them so far.
You really are blooming girl. I can't wait to see photos of you after you've been on hrt for a year or more. And wait til that hair grows out!! I'll have finally posted some of me before then as well. I plan to post them at the 6 month mark.
Thanks :D I can't wait for the next year to come. I just want to fast forward the next 12 months and have the final (or near enough final) results! I am dyyyyying for my hair to grow as fast and healthy as possible, having been trying everything short of injecting mirical grow into my scalp to accelerate the process. I even considered just getting extensions to jump straight to the long hair stage, but they are actually pretty expensive, and really bad for your hair -sigh- so I guess I will just need to wait for nature to take it's slow meandering course -.-;
Quote from: Evelyn K on April 06, 2014, 12:08:33 PM
Yeah you got it. Definitely looking feminine. I won't say it if I don't mean it. You are passing!
Thanks <3
Next big thing I really need to work on? Voice :S
Could I pass one day?
I have no hips, a thick waste and, the most difficult thing to overcome, a very masculine jaw/forehead/nose.
This photo taken 3 months post HRT.
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Quote from: Two Bodies/Same Soul on April 06, 2014, 02:46:25 PM
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For the love of God please tell me I at least somewhat pass...Forgive me the dazed look as I was slightly hung over. :/
Give us a picture when you're not hung over. lol
Quote from: caitlin_adams on April 07, 2014, 06:13:43 AM
Could I pass one day?
I have no hips, a thick waste and, the most difficult thing to overcome, a very masculine jaw/forehead/nose.
This photo taken 3 months post HRT.
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Not bad for 3 months. :) I'm pretty sure the hips and the waist will all level out in time. Your face does have some masculine qualities but so do genetic females. With the right hair/makeup and some time, I'm sure you will be fine. I like the outfit and I can't wait to see how you progress!
I'm glad to hear that people think my photos look passable! I feel like this is a good sign that I'll do even better once I'm done with HRT and FFS. Thanks all!
Just before HRT!
These are some shots that I have made. Probably I will start HRT in a few weeks. This is so my "normal"
male body. I have just grown my hair a bit but I have yet to find a good way to style it.
The second outfit (with the blue Provencal skirt) was a bit of experiment :-\, sometimes I do these experiments
and I try to see the people's reactions... but I am well "tolerated" in this town and I am usually gendered correctly.
Regarding the recent "issue" I am looking for honest criticism, I know that I do not "pass", but I also know that
I usually blend because I live a normal life as Marina in this local town and people treat me gently. So a mixture
and encouragement and criticism.
::)
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Quote from: barbie on April 05, 2014, 03:24:39 AM
Riversong,
I think your attitude and confidence will be more critical in passing than your appearance. Here in my hometown, nearly everybody watches me whether they know I am a dad or not. Most people accept and regard my expression of femininity, once they know that it is not just a hobby or a queer thing, but I am serious about that. Passing is actually meaningless to me.
Always be confident.
barbie~~
Thank you for your advice! I wish I had your confidence (which shows from your pictures) :) I just can't feel confident unless I feel like I look good. Probably a vanity thing, unfortunately, not something that can change. So I guess I'll just have to do everything I can to increase my confidence, and I'll get there eventually...
Quote from: Marina mtf on April 07, 2014, 09:29:38 AM
Just before HRT!
These are some shots that I have made. Probably I will start HRT in a few weeks. This is so my "normal"
male body. I have just grown my hair a bit but I have yet to find a good way to style it.
The second outfit (with the blue Provencal skirt) was a bit of experiment :-\, sometimes I do these experiments
and I try to see the people's reactions... but I am well "tolerated" in this town and I am usually gendered correctly.
Regarding the recent "issue" I am looking for honest criticism, I know that I do not "pass", but I also know that
I usually blend because I live a normal life as Marina in this local town and people treat me gently. So a mixture
and encouragement and criticism.
::)
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You look like a cutie pie. ^.^ Who cares if you don't pass.
Quote from: Marina mtf on April 07, 2014, 09:29:38 AM
Just before HRT!
These are some shots that I have made. Probably I will start HRT in a few weeks. This is so my "normal"
male body. I have just grown my hair a bit but I have yet to find a good way to style it.
The second outfit (with the blue Provencal skirt) was a bit of experiment :-\, sometimes I do these experiments
and I try to see the people's reactions... but I am well "tolerated" in this town and I am usually gendered correctly.
Regarding the recent "issue" I am looking for honest criticism, I know that I do not "pass", but I also know that
I usually blend because I live a normal life as Marina in this local town and people treat me gently. So a mixture
and encouragement and criticism.
::)
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I think you look 100% passable! You actually look spot on like a friend of my mom's. In fact if I didn't know better I'd think you were sisters.
Quote from: riversong on April 07, 2014, 09:51:55 AM
I think you look 100% passable! You actually look spot on like a friend of my mom's. In fact if I didn't know better I'd think you were sisters.
:) thank you!
Quote from: caitlin_adams on April 07, 2014, 06:13:43 AM
Could I pass one day?
I have no hips, a thick waste and, the most difficult thing to overcome, a very masculine jaw/forehead/nose.
This photo taken 3 months post HRT.
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Pretty good for only 3 months Caitlin. On the hips, give them "mones" time to work their magic. Your hair is looking nice as well.
Quote from: Marina mtf on April 07, 2014, 09:29:38 AM
Just before HRT!
These are some shots that I have made. Probably I will start HRT in a few weeks. This is so my "normal"
male body. I have just grown my hair a bit but I have yet to find a good way to style it.
The second outfit (with the blue Provencal skirt) was a bit of experiment :-\, sometimes I do these experiments
and I try to see the people's reactions... but I am well "tolerated" in this town and I am usually gendered correctly.
Regarding the recent "issue" I am looking for honest criticism, I know that I do not "pass", but I also know that
I usually blend because I live a normal life as Marina in this local town and people treat me gently. So a mixture
and encouragement and criticism.
::)
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In the two (middle & bottom) lower photos you look totally female. You have a good base and a nice body shape to start out with hrt which should fill you out nicely. You actually look like a girl I met at the Lake Fork Pride Fest while I was down south on vacation.
Quote from: Marina mtf on April 07, 2014, 09:29:38 AM
Just before HRT!
These are some shots that I have made. Probably I will start HRT in a few weeks. This is so my "normal"
male body. I have just grown my hair a bit but I have yet to find a good way to style it.
The second outfit (with the blue Provencal skirt) was a bit of experiment :-\, sometimes I do these experiments
and I try to see the people's reactions... but I am well "tolerated" in this town and I am usually gendered correctly.
Regarding the recent "issue" I am looking for honest criticism, I know that I do not "pass", but I also know that
I usually blend because I live a normal life as Marina in this local town and people treat me gently. So a mixture
and encouragement and criticism.
::)
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Your clothes fit very well
Ηey mermaid
I dont know if you ve heard what im gonna say before , but they say it a lot in this forum, we are our own worst critics...
from these pics I wouldnt really be able to tell if you are male or female you look super androgynous, you re very young right? 17?
Hrt will make you a beautiful girl just be patient
oh and also your face doesnt look wierd to me it looks cute and beautiful , especially your eyes...
Quote from: Mermaid on April 07, 2014, 04:50:55 PM
Alright, I don't get it! My eyes always look small in pictures, my nose looks huge and my face is super slender... why!?
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Is it the camera angle? Do I suck at taking pictures? It's not what I see in the mirror at all, my face is larger in the mirror but in pictures it all gets cramped up with my nose sticking out of the middle...
I know I don't "pass", I'm pre-everything anyway. I've already been refered to an endocrinologist and I'm getting blood samples this week or so... but... the pictures kill me. I also know the glasses are stupid, they're from the 70s, I don't really wear them, don't worry... and there's not much I can do with my hair because of its length. No make-up and eyebrows not done, I'm as raw as they come... Sure, maybe I could prepare before taking pictures but there's really not much I feel I could do without it being plucking my eyebrows (used to get them waxed). Help? Why does my face always look so weird? Some people here manage to look beautiful or at least convincing but with me I hardly see a "normal" face, much less a girl...
From the close up pic I wouldn't gender you male. I think you look just fine, and you'll look even better on 'mones.
Quote from: Mermaid on April 07, 2014, 04:50:55 PM
Alright, I don't get it! My eyes always look small in pictures, my nose looks huge and my face is super slender... why!?
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Is it the camera angle? Do I suck at taking pictures? It's not what I see in the mirror at all, my face is larger in the mirror but in pictures it all gets cramped up with my nose sticking out of the middle...
I know I don't "pass", I'm pre-everything anyway. I've already been refered to an endocrinologist and I'm getting blood samples this week or so... but... the pictures kill me. I also know the glasses are stupid, they're from the 70s, I don't really wear them, don't worry... and there's not much I can do with my hair because of its length. No make-up and eyebrows not done, I'm as raw as they come... Sure, maybe I could prepare before taking pictures but there's really not much I feel I could do without it being plucking my eyebrows (used to get them waxed). Help? Why does my face always look so weird? Some people here manage to look beautiful or at least convincing but with me I hardly see a "normal" face, much less a girl...
Have you ever looked into aspoon and seen what it does to your features? It bends them and makes them look larger in weird places and smaller in others. That's what most cheap cameras do to varying degrees, at arms length. The closer the subject matter is to the lense the larger the inside portions of their features, like the nose, will appear and the smaller the outside ones look, which is just terribly unflattering. Not to mention the frankly sheeity lighting in your pics lol.
A higher quality camera and better lighting will do wonders, but there will still be distortion unless you use the timer. There always is at arms length. Like in my profile pic, there's the teensiest bit even though the cam was better quality than yours and the lighting was good, my nose still appears sliightly larger somehow and my face looks longer and more angular, a bit. It's just kinda the way selfies are, at that distance, haha.
Regardless, I see the distortion in your photo and I can see past it and I can tell, A., you're adorbbz and B., you'll have no trouble passing with HRT and eyebrows plucking. You wont need makeup, but youll want it, trust me. Good luuuckk!
Quote from: FalsePrincess on April 07, 2014, 05:07:17 PM
Ηey mermaid
I dont know if you ve heard what im gonna say before , but they say it a lot in this forum, we are our own worst critics...
from these pics I wouldnt really be able to tell if you are male or female you look super androgynous, you re very young right? 17?
Hrt will make you a beautiful girl just be patient
oh and also your face doesnt look wierd to me it looks cute and beautiful , especially your eyes...
I want to believe you but it's hard to! I'm 23, actually... wish I was 17. I've a lot of flaws that aren't showing in that pic! I'm 1,82m and haven't had laser, I hid the eyebrows on purpose aswell... ugh Southern European genes. Eyebrows are super dark...
I will be honest and say that your picture is beautiful, so that makes it harder for me to believe compliments... I was browsing another section yesterday and instantly noticed it. Clicked your tumblr aswell because I was curious =P And yay, anime.
Anyway, thanks to you two who posted trying to make me feel better. My ex said that the camera angle is the reason why my eyes look so small but they're definitly not big outside of pictures either, anyway... I had a hard time believing him aswell when he gave compliments... they make me feel better but deep down it's like my perception of myself is too tainted to see anything remotely good =/ There's those days where I like what I see in the mirror, but if I pop out a camera my ego is blown to bits. I avoid pictures a lot because of that reason...
Anyway, I'll leave a comic here that some might find funny, others will find cruel... but, essentially it's why I have a hard time believing people when they give me compliments, I'm always afraid that it might be out of pity T.T Hope I'm not alone in feeling that way... or, hope I do...
http://oi58.tinypic.com/348nekl.jpg (http://oi58.tinypic.com/348nekl.jpg)
*stops rambling*
And while I was writing this, jussmoi4now replied. Thanks for the tips! You're obviously good at taking pictures, you look super pretty and make me jealous! =P
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on April 07, 2014, 05:25:36 PM
Have you ever looked into aspoon and seen what it does to your features? It bends them and makes them look larger in weird places and smaller in others.
Maybe that's why my nose always looks like it wants to spite my face, lol! :laugh:
No problem, sug. And aww thanks, you're sweet, but I actually suck at photos, haha, like I said my face looks so long and angular in that pic and my expression is so stupid, but I guess that's just selfies in general. I think FalsePrincess is right about us being our own worse critics cuz, yeah, I always see a 10 year old boy in my face especially in pics even when people, like my family or guys, say they think I look like a girl or am pretty..guess its just part of being a girl!
Btw look up unveilinglauren. You're like her twin, grrrl!
Well mermaid I dont know if that will make you feel better but when people say im beautiful I dont believe them and I rarely see a girl in me,,,its all in our heads...
Quote from: Mermaid on April 07, 2014, 05:34:57 PM
Anyway, I'll leave a comic here that some might find funny, others will find cruel...
http://oi58.tinypic.com/348nekl.jpg (http://oi58.tinypic.com/348nekl.jpg)
Loved the comic Mermaid. Made my ribs hurt laughing. Oh and on a serious note, jussmoi4nao's right about selfies. I can't get a decent photo of myself with any cell phone smart or not. I always have to use my digital camera and use the timer. If I try just holding it out in front of me my whole face looks crooked. Angles, or maybe those spoons again, lol! Cheer up girl! your young yet, you have good skin and I can see past the bad camera flaws too. Hrt will give you great facial features and just wait til you see what it does for your hair!
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on April 07, 2014, 05:45:39 PMBtw look up unveilinglauren. You're like her twin, grrrl!
I am noooot, lol! She looks really good. I think I look nothing like her at all. She has a small jaw but broader chin, I think I have a broader jaw but slim chin, and it doesn't really protrude either, it's just kind of long... (and has a stupid dimple...) Here comes a poop-quality pictures of my jaw...
http://oi62.tinypic.com/2hhkpxx.jpg (http://oi62.tinypic.com/2hhkpxx.jpg)
No making fun at the pajamas =(
And here's a blurry one I took and cropped to hide as many flaws as I could...
http://oi61.tinypic.com/sfvsr7.jpg (http://oi61.tinypic.com/sfvsr7.jpg)
So yeah, I think they allude more towards my face shape? Which isn'y like unveilinglauren, or at least I don't think so...
And yes, I know these two pictures are worse in quality, but show my face shape better I guess. The originals are long lost... =/
Quote from: Mermaid on April 07, 2014, 06:02:49 PM
I am noooot, lol! She looks really good. I think I look nothing like her at all. She has a small jaw but broader chin, I think I have a broader jaw but slim chin, and it doesn't really protrude either, it's just kind of long... (and has a stupid dimple...) Here comes a poop-quality pictures of my jaw...
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No making fun at the pajamas =(
And here's a blurry one I took and cropped to hide as many flaws as I could and hide...
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So yeah, I think they allude more towards my face shape? Which isn'y like unveilinglauren, or at least I don't think so...
See, yeah, that's good! Mirror pictures distort your features by flipping them but they help portray more true to life proportionality of nose, jaw, etc. by flattening the image and providing lense-to-subject distance. The best way you could go is a timer or whatever. Webcams are good for reducing distortion too (tho the resolution can be poor).
But yeah, I can't see much but you're features are evidently much smaller than the other photos portray. Fat redistribution will actually help soften your jaw, even if bone can't change (but yours isn't that bad anyway). And you doo look like her! As soon as I saw you I thought you were her for a sec.
Listento me, I'm quiet if I think somebody looks bad lol. You don't. You're gona do great, trust me!
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on April 07, 2014, 06:12:58 PMAnd you doo look like her! As soon as I saw you I thought you were her for a sec.
Nooo lol! Worst feeling ever, to be compared to other people, haha. Well, unless they're global sex symbols... and even then, I would hate to be Megan Fox or Myley Cyrus >.>
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on April 07, 2014, 06:12:58 PMListento me, I'm quiet if I think somebody looks bad lol. You don't. You're gona do great, trust me!
Okay! That cheers me up a bit but I'll haunt you with horrible pictures of my "progress" if I end up looking bad lol!
Quote from: jussmoi4nao on April 07, 2014, 06:34:34 PM
I ain't worried ;) looking forward to seeing how you progreeess!
Me too! Looking forward to it! ;)
Quote from: Allyda on April 07, 2014, 07:02:31 PM
Me too! Looking forward to it! ;)
D'aw, you guys are too awesome! =P
Thanks for making my night. I just got an app for my phone that should really not allow me to snooze tomorrow... I need blood samples asap since the appointment with my endo is on the 22nd, but the hospital is really far and trains + subway are slow, so I have to be up stupidly early! We'll see how it goes T.T I shouldn't let it get past Wednesday, don't want to risk going to the appointment and not having my samples ready =(
Quote from: Mermaid on April 07, 2014, 08:01:31 PM
D'aw, you guys are too awesome! =P
Thanks for making my night. I just got an app for my phone that should really not allow me to snooze tomorrow... I need blood samples asap since the appointment with my endo is on the 22nd, but the hospital is really far and trains + subway are slow, so I have to be up stupidly early! We'll see how it goes T.T I shouldn't let it get past Wednesday, don't want to risk going to the appointment and not having my samples ready =(
Funny, I had my 3 month bloodwork done today and my Endo appointment is also on the 22nd, lol!
Quote from: Allyda on April 07, 2014, 08:26:45 PM
Funny, I had my 3 month bloodwork done today and my Endo appointment is also on the 22nd, lol!
Haha, yay! I'm super excited, just hope my parents don't get in the way of HRT. It's really unstable, how they sometimes say they'll accept it, other times not... and pick on me because of my hair even knowing what I intend to do. Oh well! Hope our appointments on the 22nd go well :3
Quote from: Mermaid on April 07, 2014, 08:31:29 PM
Haha, yay! I'm super excited, just hope my parents don't get in the way of HRT. It's really unstable, how they sometimes say they'll accept it, other times not... and pick on me because of my hair even knowing what I intend to do. Oh well! Hope our appointments on the 22nd go well :3
I've known about my needing to be a girl since I was a kid. To top it off, I'm xxy so I've always looked more like a girl than a boy. However I have an adopted family (I lost my biological Mom when I was 6 -she was all I had, and I was adopted off the Reservation out west I was born on when I was 7 & 1/2 & brought back east) who were very conservative and religeous like yours is. So I have a little idea of what your going through. I'm alot older than you, I'm 49 and will be 50 this coming Halloween. For years I held off my transition hoping my family would come around. Well long story short my adopted Mom is the only one of my adopted family I have left. I finally bought my current home 5 years ago and began living full time because I could no longer pass as male anyway even pre hrt. My adopted Mom is now too old to make long trips even though she only lives in Orlando, to come and see me. She still hasn't accepted my transition fully, but does know I'm going all the way to SRS. So we now only communicate via letters and she'll send me boxes about 3 times per month. It took years to stop her from sending me mens clothes which don't fit me anyway. Because of my body shape being on the feminine side due to my extra X chromasome, womens clothes always fit me better than mens ever did anyway. Plus, I'm tiny, 5-5 117 lb's and long arms and legs for my height, and now a little over 3 months in on hrt my boobs are starting to come in pretty good. However, and this is why I'm telling you all this. When I think about all the years I lost waiting for other people to come around and accept me for who I am I break out in tears. I'm fighting them now as I write this. I lost the best years of my life for nothing, and I just hate to see any of my younger sisters go through what I did, and losing the best years of your life waiting for someone to come around who may or may not. Live your life as who you are and be happy. Live as you are while your young.
And yes, let's hope our Endo appointments on the 22nd go well. ;)
Quote from: Allyda on April 07, 2014, 09:01:50 PM
I've known about my needing to be a girl since I was a kid. To top it off, I'm xxy so I've always looked more like a girl than a boy. However I have an adopted family (I lost my biological Mom when I was 6 -she was all I had, and I was adopted off the Reservation out west I was born on when I was 7 & 1/2 & brought back east) who were very conservative and religeous like yours is. So I have a little idea of what your going through. I'm alot older than you, I'm 49 and will be 50 this coming Halloween. For years I held off my transition hoping my family would come around. Well long story short my adopted Mom is the only one of my adopted family I have left. I finally bought my current home 5 years ago and began living full time because I could no longer pass as male anyway even pre hrt. My adopted Mom is now too old to make long trips even though she only lives in Orlando, to come and see me. She still hasn't accepted my transition fully, but does know I'm going all the way to SRS. So we now only communicate via letters and she'll send me boxes about 3 times per month. It took years to stop her from sending me mens clothes which don't fit me anyway. Because of my body shape being on the feminine side due to my extra X chromasome, womens clothes always fit me better than mens ever did anyway. Plus, I'm tiny, 5-5 117 lb's and long arms and legs for my height, and now a little over 3 months in on hrt my boobs are starting to come in pretty good. However, and this is why I'm telling you all this. When I think about all the years I lost waiting for other people to come around and accept me for who I am I break out in tears. I'm fighting them now as I write this. I lost the best years of my life for nothing, and I just hate to see any of my younger sisters go through what I did, and losing the best years of your life waiting for someone to come around who may or may not. Live your life as who you are and be happy. Live as you are while your young.
And yes, let's hope our Endo appointments on the 22nd go well. ;)
((((Hugs)))) Allyda, Auntie Shan thinks you're swell! :icon_bunch:
One of my most blatant glamour shots:
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Quote from: Chic on April 07, 2014, 11:12:48 PM
One of my most blatant glamour shots:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlXrq2KH.jpg&hash=503394b368cd1a92175727c4be84e4c22d9afb9e)
Hot!
Quote from: Chic on April 07, 2014, 11:12:48 PM
One of my most blatant glamour shots:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlXrq2KH.jpg&hash=503394b368cd1a92175727c4be84e4c22d9afb9e)
Looking very sexy
Quote from: Shantel on April 07, 2014, 09:27:13 PM
((((Hugs)))) Allyda, Auntie Shan thinks you're swell! :icon_bunch:
Awe how sweet, thanks Auntie Shan. :eusa_dance: A big tight hug back to you as well GF. Knowing your in my corner always gives me strength! :icon_2gun:
P.S: As you can see I've just discovered the other icons. What fun I'm gonna have with these, lol! :icon_ballbounce:
Quote from: Allyda on April 07, 2014, 02:33:23 PM
In the two (middle & bottom) lower photos you look totally female. You have a good base and a nice body shape to start out with hrt which should fill you out nicely. You actually look like a girl I met at the Lake Fork Pride Fest while I was down south on vacation.
thank you all... I am now on a diet to make room for post HRT fat ... :) hopefully it will go where it should go :police:
Allyda, your post was very touching. =)
I think, however, that we shouldn't think about things that "we could have done earlier". It usually leads to nothing more than frustration... I'm sure it's tough to swallow having spent many years wanting to do something you never did, specially something like a transition, but I think that every person, cis or otherwise, at one point or another regrets not having done something earlier. Whether it's a sport you love that you think you would be better at if you had been interested in it earlier, an instrument that you were fascinated about and now see children playing it better than you do and you realise you won't be a rockstar, there are so many things that every single person regrets "not doing earlier" in their lives... I understand it is frustrating, but wishing to live your life again and do some things different is something that every human wonders about, not just transgender people. I see that frustration in these forums of course, but also on my parents, on friends who're my age and even on myself. Sometimes it feels like even I only decide to pursue things when it's already "too late".
My point is, even if you had transitioned earlier, today there would still be things that you'd wish you had done different. I think it's part of the process of growing up.
Even if you had transitioned at an earlier age, today would still be today. The years you fantasize about would still be "lost" because they'd just be memories. I think what matters is the now and what you're doing for your future, not what you could've done before. Transitioning at a late age, you're going to experience new things, you'll feel novelty, you'll feel joy that I think most people your age with more "conventional" lives don't get to feel all that much anymore. Even if you had been cisgender, you'd have regrets of some kind about your past, you would still think of your "good years" as being gone and feel grief/regret, it's just human nature. In fact, you would probably think your true happiness is in the past, rather than the future... but since you are transitioning now, surely your perspective is different and you think that your happiness is in the now and the future. I think that's the way of balancing things out for people like us? We're full of hopes and dreams, regardless of what age we transition at, therefore capable of being born again at any point in our lives.
I hope this post made any sense. Age is just a number, how you choose to act and present yourself carries far more weight in others' perception of you than your age does, so there is nothing that you could've experienced before that you cannot experience today or tomorrow. I don't mean to trivialize or seem insensitive towards the frustration that comes with waiting so long to do what you always wanted to do, I know it's painful because I feel it too, but if you analyze things with the future also in the picture, you realise that it's not impossible to be happy. =)
Quote from: Chic on April 07, 2014, 11:12:48 PM
One of my most blatant glamour shots:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlXrq2KH.jpg&hash=503394b368cd1a92175727c4be84e4c22d9afb9e)
No worries. At all :)
So jealous but in a good way :D
Latest. Honest opinions/thoughts on what I can to to improve the way I look please, and I DO mean honest. Looking to improve where I can. I'm not so concerned with "passing" than with correct use of makeup, etc
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FZQ4ZCdc.jpg&hash=73b20c5c55afaae02f28046d75d97757c09933f7)
Quote from: KelsieJ on April 08, 2014, 05:56:14 PM
Latest. Honest opinions/thoughts on what I can to to improve the way I look please, and I DO mean honest. Looking to improve where I can. I'm not so concerned with "passing" than with correct use of makeup, etc
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FZQ4ZCdc.jpg&hash=73b20c5c55afaae02f28046d75d97757c09933f7)
HONESTLY I don't see any way to improve Kelsie!
Your make up and hair look fine to me! Fabulous actually. You have no worries on that front :-). I'm quite envious actually!! :-)
Quote from: KelsieJ on April 08, 2014, 05:56:14 PM
Latest. Honest opinions/thoughts on what I can to to improve the way I look please, and I DO mean honest. Looking to improve where I can. I'm not so concerned with "passing" than with correct use of makeup, etc
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FZQ4ZCdc.jpg&hash=73b20c5c55afaae02f28046d75d97757c09933f7)
You look great and I'm totally loving your red coat. You might look super adorbs as a redhead with the same coat in kelly green, but your actual coloring sometimes doesn't exactly translate to the picture you post, so take that with a fat grain of salt.
WIN
Quote from: KelsieJ on April 08, 2014, 05:56:14 PM
Latest. Honest opinions/thoughts on what I can to to improve the way I look please, and I DO mean honest. Looking to improve where I can. I'm not so concerned with "passing" than with correct use of makeup, etc
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FZQ4ZCdc.jpg&hash=73b20c5c55afaae02f28046d75d97757c09933f7)
Yeah you pass. Without any doubt whatsoever here.
Quote from: Evelyn K on April 08, 2014, 06:25:19 PM
Yeah you pass. Without any doubt whatsoever here.
I agree!
Hey girls I want some feed back on how I am doing. I don't think I pass very well. I have just been on hormones awhile.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FvfENpT3.png&hash=1d42bdf427df1a4dc3c7a7706a2f6c1588063e9b)
it looks like your getting there.
Quote from: HoneyBunny on April 08, 2014, 09:12:33 PM
Hey girls I want some feed back on how I am doing. I don't think I pass very well. I have just been on hormones awhile.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FvfENpT3.png&hash=1d42bdf427df1a4dc3c7a7706a2f6c1588063e9b)
I'd gender you female before gendering you as male, I'd say pass for certain, but it's hard to say with one photo sometimes, post some more ;)
Quote from: HoneyBunny on April 08, 2014, 09:12:33 PM
Hey girls I want some feed back on how I am doing. I don't think I pass very well. I have just been on hormones awhile.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FvfENpT3.png&hash=1d42bdf427df1a4dc3c7a7706a2f6c1588063e9b)
I'd say female in a heartbeat. The only thing I think needs a bit of work is your eye makeup, and that's not something that can't be fixed! Your eyebrows are amazing, your facial structure is completely feminine, and your nose is androgynous. There's a little bit of a shadow above and below your lips, so you could use some foundation around those areas to lighten and blend it. You pass, definitely! Also, I love your hair, and the color of your lipstick is so pretty! You're gorgeous. :)
Quote from: Chic on April 08, 2014, 10:16:44 PM
I'd say female in a heartbeat. The only thing I think needs a bit of work is your eye makeup, and that's not something that can't be fixed! Your eyebrows are amazing, your facial structure is completely feminine, and your nose is androgynous. There's a little bit of a shadow above and below your lips, so you could use some foundation around those areas to lighten and blend it. You pass, definitely! Also, I love your hair, and the color of your lipstick is so pretty! You're gorgeous. :)
okay here are a few more pics. I am working on my make up too.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1TKtyrE.jpg&hash=d477c06e5b611c5d5f69c2183d0eb0527b94d10b)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5r37hCU.png&hash=ca0afc77916db54836102c6e32df09e4c55530e2)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2QcMW27.png&hash=c4c4de780d178b6e92746ad939b97275d24d5033)
and here is a selfie from my phone with the same make up and dress from the first one.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfTOhRIV.jpg&hash=a42dba5b80d376b2d81d237f5bbf73e786df4c89)
Quote from: HoneyBunny on April 08, 2014, 10:50:54 PM
okay here are a few more pics. I am working on my make up too.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1TKtyrE.jpg&hash=d477c06e5b611c5d5f69c2183d0eb0527b94d10b)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5r37hCU.png&hash=ca0afc77916db54836102c6e32df09e4c55530e2)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2QcMW27.png&hash=c4c4de780d178b6e92746ad939b97275d24d5033)
and here is a selfie from my phone with the same make up and dress from the first one.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfTOhRIV.jpg&hash=a42dba5b80d376b2d81d237f5bbf73e786df4c89)
Much better! I love these pictures. My only tip is to smile! You look SO much more feminine in your pics when you're smiling or giving a little smirk. You don't look as femme in the pictures where you're frowning! Smile! :)
Quote from: HoneyBunny on April 08, 2014, 10:50:54 PM
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You are very pretty and I love your hair! I like the look you have in this one, its too bad the picture quality isn't the best.
Quote from: HoneyBunny on April 08, 2014, 10:50:54 PM
okay here are a few more pics. I am working on my make up too.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5r37hCU.png&hash=ca0afc77916db54836102c6e32df09e4c55530e2)
This is my fav. haha, pure sex ;) I think you pass in all the photos, the only problematic thing is you still have a little bit of a shadow where your facial hair grows in (or used to grow in), so a tad more foundation perhaps ^^
Quote from: Nattie on April 08, 2014, 11:32:25 PM
This is my fav. haha, pure sex ;) I think you pass in all the photos, the only problematic thing is you still have a little bit of a shadow where your facial hair grows in (or used to grow in), so a tad more foundation perhaps ^^
Haha, I like the way you think Nattie ;)
Quote from: AnnaLee on April 08, 2014, 11:42:22 PM
Haha, I like the way you think Nattie ;)
hehe :icon_redface:
Quote from: HoneyBunny on April 08, 2014, 10:50:54 PM
okay here are a few more pics. I am working on my make up too.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1TKtyrE.jpg&hash=d477c06e5b611c5d5f69c2183d0eb0527b94d10b)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5r37hCU.png&hash=ca0afc77916db54836102c6e32df09e4c55530e2)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2QcMW27.png&hash=c4c4de780d178b6e92746ad939b97275d24d5033)
and here is a selfie from my phone with the same make up and dress from the first one.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfTOhRIV.jpg&hash=a42dba5b80d376b2d81d237f5bbf73e786df4c89)
I see only cisgender female. So jealous :)
Quote from: Jill F
You look great and I'm totally loving your red coat. You might look super adorbs as a redhead with the same coat in kelly green, but your actual coloring sometimes doesn't exactly translate to the picture you post, so take that with a fat grain of salt.
WIN
I still have a ways to go on hormones and definitely weightloss.......
I have thought of trying redhead......maybe I'll try a hairpiece and see how it looks
Quote from: KelsieJ on April 09, 2014, 08:47:42 AM
I still have a ways to go on hormones and definitely weightloss.......
I have thought of trying redhead......maybe I'll try a hairpiece and see how it looks
Kelsie I think you look great. You've a nice feminine shape to your face and the eyeliner accents those big eyes of yours very well. As for the hair, I like the color your wearing but red may look great on you as well. :icon_flower:
Quote from: HoneyBunny on April 08, 2014, 10:50:54 PM
okay here are a few more pics. I am working on my make up too.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1TKtyrE.jpg&hash=d477c06e5b611c5d5f69c2183d0eb0527b94d10b)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5r37hCU.png&hash=ca0afc77916db54836102c6e32df09e4c55530e2)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2QcMW27.png&hash=c4c4de780d178b6e92746ad939b97275d24d5033)
and here is a selfie from my phone with the same make up and dress from the first one.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfTOhRIV.jpg&hash=a42dba5b80d376b2d81d237f5bbf73e786df4c89)
I think you're a pass, you look great!
Quote from: AnnaLee on April 08, 2014, 11:42:22 PM
Haha, I like the way you think Nattie ;)
Yeah I need to go get more laser done soon. I tried putting on more foundation and i can't put on eye liner still despite years of trying.
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Quote from: HoneyBunny on April 09, 2014, 06:23:26 PM
Yeah I need to go get more laser done soon. I tried putting on more foundation and i can't put on eye liner still despite years of trying.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGV0Iq8X.png&hash=555ade913d8d6e6af1a4bbfcac7b57004468e4f0)
You're really pretty HoneyBunny, you'd better not try to put eyeliner on with that .380 auto it will huuurrt baby doll!
Was gonna say that looked like a 380 baretta. Something about girls with guns... Dangerous beauty, lol :P
Quote from: Mickie on April 09, 2014, 06:33:35 PM
Was gonna say that looked like a 380 baretta. Something about girls with guns... Dangerous beauty, lol :P
oh really
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi930.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad144%2Finfinitepure%2Far.jpg&hash=1dec5ecd353acbb9b8f30b1da72f6f4b76aab5e1) (http://s930.photobucket.com/user/infinitepure/media/ar.jpg.html)
3 Months on HRT :D
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ashlee you look super hot :)
Quote from: FalsePrincess on April 10, 2014, 01:58:05 AM
ashlee you look super hot :)
Daaaawwwwww ^.^ Not even close to you, your a billion times better
Quote from: AshleeLC on April 10, 2014, 02:05:15 AM
Daaaawwwwww ^.^ Not even close to you, your a billion times better
??? no way , you re a billion times better !
A whole night dressed, met so many new friends and passed the whole night, didn't even get clocked at the drag club until I showed my ID and I'm 34 for crying out loud.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-q4f1nHNyiBU/U0ZFmdZ254I/AAAAAAAAAGc/-LxHOd5Sy9M/w646-h861-no/20140410_025108.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mKkxdeJdN9U/U0ZDjSeoQbI/AAAAAAAACQ4/gCREYKVxOmU/w614-h818-no/20140410_030853.jpg)
me happy, even when shooting selfies at 3AM while hammmmmerrred
Antonia
Really nice make up you look amazing :)
Thanks!
Sorry about the body shot, I sometimes revert to my surly past self but, I just wanted to show what a month of 1h cardio per day can do, not only did my wasteline make the drag girls feel surly but I ended up giving nutrition advice to a bunch of cisgirls, so much for diabetes.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-pXd4GDPtTIo/U0ZAKI5PONI/AAAAAAAACOQ/9G1gKRDYJwM/w614-h818-no/20140410_025423.jp)
Quote from: FalsePrincess on April 10, 2014, 02:38:11 AM
Antonia
Really nice make up you look amazing :)
Quote from: Madison (kiara jamie) on April 10, 2014, 12:38:55 AM
oh really
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi930.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad144%2Finfinitepure%2Far.jpg&hash=1dec5ecd353acbb9b8f30b1da72f6f4b76aab5e1) (http://s930.photobucket.com/user/infinitepure/media/ar.jpg.html)
I stand by my previous statement.
Quote from: FalsePrincess on April 10, 2014, 02:18:16 AM
Quote from: AshleeLC on April 10, 2014, 02:05:15 AM
Daaaawwwwww ^.^ Not even close to you, your a billion times better
??? no way , you re a billion times better !
Lol you're both a zillion times better
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vsfjez01agrjua5/2014-04-08%2001.26.30.jpg (https://www.dropbox.com/s/vsfjez01agrjua5/2014-04-08%2001.26.30.jpg)
P.S. sorry for the double post
Quote from: HoneyBunny on April 08, 2014, 09:12:33 PM
Hey girls I want some feed back on how I am doing. I don't think I pass very well. I have just been on hormones awhile.
If you are trying to look like a beautiful women, it's working. Anything else is a fail.
Quote from: AshleeLC on April 10, 2014, 01:50:50 AM
3 Months on HRT :D
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Nice body, nice hair, nice shirt, nice face, nice pose. You look great. :)
I hate this thread... I'm jealous... :-)
Quote from: antonia on April 10, 2014, 02:28:43 AM
A whole night dressed, met so many new friends and passed the whole night, didn't even get clocked at the drag club until I showed my ID and I'm 34 for crying out loud.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-q4f1nHNyiBU/U0ZFmdZ254I/AAAAAAAAAGc/-LxHOd5Sy9M/w646-h861-no/20140410_025108.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mKkxdeJdN9U/U0ZDjSeoQbI/AAAAAAAACQ4/gCREYKVxOmU/w614-h818-no/20140410_030853.jpg)
me happy, even when shooting selfies at 3AM while hammmmmerrred
Excuse my intrusion on this side of the board, but you do NOT look 34. In fact, I would quite easily believe 24 from these photos.
Quote from: HoneyBunny on April 08, 2014, 10:50:54 PM
okay here are a few more pics. I am working on my make up too.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1TKtyrE.jpg&hash=d477c06e5b611c5d5f69c2183d0eb0527b94d10b)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5r37hCU.png&hash=ca0afc77916db54836102c6e32df09e4c55530e2)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2QcMW27.png&hash=c4c4de780d178b6e92746ad939b97275d24d5033)
and here is a selfie from my phone with the same make up and dress from the first one.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfTOhRIV.jpg&hash=a42dba5b80d376b2d81d237f5bbf73e786df4c89)
Oh my God!! You are freakin HOT!!! You are past male fail for sure!!!
Oh, and make sure you smile more. So much better when you are smiling.
Quote from: Madison (kiara jamie) on April 10, 2014, 12:38:55 AM
oh really
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi930.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad144%2Finfinitepure%2Far.jpg&hash=1dec5ecd353acbb9b8f30b1da72f6f4b76aab5e1) (http://s930.photobucket.com/user/infinitepure/media/ar.jpg.html)
Madison, I'm going to have to clean tea off of my computer monitor now. Thanks! :D
Is that airsoft?
Quote from: JesseG on April 10, 2014, 11:55:43 AM
Madison, I'm going to have to clean tea off of my computer monitor now. Thanks! :D
Is that airsoft?
*crosses fingers* "please don't be airsoft"
Thanks!
It's kinda weird, I was able to go to bars at 14 and not get carded but now I get carded 20 years later, I guess can't complain.
I have nasty hangover today but it's improving.
Quote from: Greeneyedrebel on April 10, 2014, 09:21:43 AM
Excuse my intrusion on this side of the board, but you do NOT look 34. In fact, I would quite easily believe 24 from these photos.
Quote from: antonia on April 10, 2014, 12:21:22 PM
Thanks!
It's kinda weird, I was able to go to bars at 14 and not get carded but now I get carded 20 years later, I guess can't complain.
I have nasty hangover today but it's improving.
You are quite welcome.
Quote from: AshleeLC on April 10, 2014, 01:50:50 AM
3 Months on HRT :D
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Girl, 3 months? You've got this already! :P
Quote from: Madison (kiara jamie) on April 10, 2014, 12:38:55 AM
oh really
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Now I want to start a girls with guns thread!! :-* Looking good with that 5.56 ;)
Quote from: Kyra553 on April 10, 2014, 05:18:29 PM
Now I want to start a girls with guns thread!! :-* Looking good with that 5.56 ;)
I second this.
Quote from: Mickie on April 10, 2014, 05:40:39 PM
I second this.
any body have any shoulder held surface to air heat seeking missiles.
I took these for another thread, so I figure I'd post them here just to see what people think. I'm not made up at all like in my other pics, but I figure it'd be good for people to see how I look "normally" without anything having been done to my face. I'm not on hormones or anything. Could I pass with hormones one day?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fj7rKuKS.jpg&hash=5c37bd6fb72afb3e7ab814eb70ee04c4a4dc66e4)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkQqW20H.jpg&hash=b04ca4ff059dae515ce05c92bbb30b27ccf6c904)
Quote from: stephaniec on April 10, 2014, 06:03:29 PM
any body have any shoulder held surface to air heat seeking missiles.
(Looks around nervously) shhhhhhh!
Quote from: JesseG on April 10, 2014, 11:55:43 AM
Madison, I'm going to have to clean tea off of my computer monitor now. Thanks! :D
Is that airsoft?
Quote from: Mickie on April 10, 2014, 12:04:49 PM
*crosses fingers* "please don't be airsoft"
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on April 10, 2014, 01:45:29 PM
Well, judging by its looks it IS "airsoft".
Quote from: Kyra553 on April 10, 2014, 05:18:29 PM
Now I want to start a girls with guns thread!! :-* Looking good with that 5.56 ;)
well it is not airsoft, airsoft is just lame, and if you don't believe me i have a video i can show that shows it is definetly not airsoft, its a sig sauer sig516 with an eotech sight, i also have others
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi930.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad144%2Finfinitepure%2F20140201_230146.jpg&hash=5c1a00a764ee74778a41f0a876ee4383eaca6e24) (http://s930.photobucket.com/user/infinitepure/media/20140201_230146.jpg.html)
sig516, remington 700 .308, remington versamax tactical, and my M&P 9mm
im a bit of a gun nut and am waiting for the next shipment from keltec to hit calgary so i can buy a RFB, and a KSG
Quote from: Madison (kiara jamie) on April 10, 2014, 07:24:56 PM
well it is not airsoft, airsoft is just lame, and if you don't believe me i have a video i can show that shows it is definetly not airsoft, its a sig sauer sig516 with an eotech sight, i also have others
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi930.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad144%2Finfinitepure%2F20140201_230146.jpg&hash=5c1a00a764ee74778a41f0a876ee4383eaca6e24) (http://s930.photobucket.com/user/infinitepure/media/20140201_230146.jpg.html)
sig516, remington 700 .308, remington versamax tactical, and my M&P 9mm
im a bit of a gun nut and am waiting for the next shipment from keltec to hit calgary so i can buy a RFB, and a KSG
I really should take a photo of my "collection" , I have a few more than that! Muhahahaha ;)
Again. I second the "girls with guns" thread idea.
Quote from: Mickie on April 10, 2014, 08:00:31 PM
Again. I second the "girls with guns" thread idea.
Go for it! That would be fun. Not as fun as girls with guitars though... :laugh:
ok I've got an updated pic :) i would like to hear honest opinions, like really honest, like the kind of -steps i will need to take in a nonsurgical or surgical- kind of honest that would be great :) as said before I'm pre hrt :*
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Quote from: Riley Desgagne on April 10, 2014, 08:42:21 PM
ok I've got an updated pic :) i would like to hear honest opinions, like really honest, like the kind of -steps i will need to take in a nonsurgical or surgical- kind of honest that would be great :) as said before I'm pre hrt :*
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That's a really good pic of you. I think you have a great base to work on, and you're already almost there :P your hair looks very androgynous. and I think hrt will work wonders!
Quote from: Jill F on April 10, 2014, 08:06:07 PM
Go for it! That would be fun. Not as fun as girls with guitars though... :laugh:
Is there a girls with guitars thread? I think I'll make the gwg thread, but I don't wanna interfere with the "hunting and shooting" thread
Please don't be afraid to give me brutal honesty if you don't think my pics look good or if you feel I'll never pass :( it's more helpful to me than silence.
Quote from: riversong on April 10, 2014, 06:07:05 PM
I took these for another thread, so I figure I'd post them here just to see what people think. I'm not made up at all like in my other pics, but I figure it'd be good for people to see how I look "normally" without anything having been done to my face. I'm not on hormones or anything. Could I pass with hormones one day?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fj7rKuKS.jpg&hash=5c37bd6fb72afb3e7ab814eb70ee04c4a4dc66e4)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkQqW20H.jpg&hash=b04ca4ff059dae515ce05c92bbb30b27ccf6c904)
It's really difficult to know what hormones will do for anyone before start because they affect everyone so differently. Some have drastic changes some don't . some take years to get any results and some take only months. Your facial structure is fine for change , but you wont really know until you do it.
Quote from: stephaniec on April 10, 2014, 09:02:34 PM
It's really difficult to know what hormones will do for anyone before start because they affect everyone so differently. Some have drastic changes some don't . some take years to get any results and some take only months. Your facial structure is fine for change , but you wont really know until you do it.
Thank you for your reply :)
How do I look now though, do I read as male? What are my male and female characteristics?
Quote from: riversong on April 10, 2014, 09:05:20 PM
Thank you for your reply :)
How do I look now though, do I read as male? What are my male and female characteristics?
One way to look at it is if you were your sister with the female slant to your genes, you look like you'll do fine
Quote from: stephaniec on April 10, 2014, 09:10:12 PM
One way to look at it is if you were your sister with the female slant to your genes, you look like you'll do fine
That's fortunate because I have sisters and they're both quite pretty. I just have a hard time figuring out exactly what it is about my face that is masculine, and can't find anything in particular. Yet somehow I still don't always come across as female. Do I just figured I'd ask if I come across as female at all.
I've been trying to figure it out for a year now and I don't feel like I'm any closer :(
because your male and your body is guided by testosterone. You need estrogen to look female.
Quote from: stephaniec on April 10, 2014, 09:36:34 PM
because your male and your body is guided by testosterone. You need estrogen to look female.
Yea, what I'm having a hard time with though is figuring out what the specific features are of my face that are masculine (or if there are any at all). I usually observe that males have muscular faces, lower cheek bones, wider jaw, broad chin, and smaller lips, but I don't have any of that, so I'm not sure what it is (so I'm left to assume that it's nothing) :(
Quote from: riversong on April 10, 2014, 09:42:44 PM
Yea, what I'm having a hard time with though is figuring out what the specific features are of my face that are masculine (or if there are any at all). I usually observe that males have muscular faces, lower cheek bones, wider jaw and broad chin, but I don't have any of that, so I'm not sure what it is (so I'm left to assume that it's nothing) :(
I think your worrying about things that you will only be able to differentiate after being on estrogen for a while, If I was a plastic surgeon I could probably give you a clinical evaluation but I'm not so all I can say is maybe find a transgender therapist to walk you through the possibility of transition, I think it would help a great deal to sort out your reason for transitioning. Maybe some other members can help you with your questions. To be honest I don't know how to answer your questions other to say your features are fine and hormones will most likely change your face a lot.
Quote from: stephaniec on April 10, 2014, 09:54:46 PM
I think your worrying about things that you will only be able to differentiate after being on estrogen for a while, If I was a plastic surgeon I could probably give you a clinical evaluation but I'm not so all I can say is maybe find a transgender therapist to walk you through the possibility of transition, I think it would help a great deal to sort out your reason for transitioning. Maybe some other members can help you with your questions. To be honest I don't know how to answer your questions other to say your features are fine and hormones will most likely change your face a lot.
Yes, I understand. It's a learning process like any other. I don't really need help sorting out my reasons for transitioning, since I don't have any doubts or anything there. I'll mostly need the therapist to help me cope with the changes that I'll undergo in transition and help me out with my depression and such. Thank you for your assistance :)
Quote from: riversong on April 10, 2014, 06:07:05 PM
I took these for another thread, so I figure I'd post them here just to see what people think. I'm not made up at all like in my other pics, but I figure it'd be good for people to see how I look "normally" without anything having been done to my face. I'm not on hormones or anything. Could I pass with hormones one day?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fj7rKuKS.jpg&hash=5c37bd6fb72afb3e7ab814eb70ee04c4a4dc66e4)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkQqW20H.jpg&hash=b04ca4ff059dae515ce05c92bbb30b27ccf6c904)
You already look fem! lol. Get on the E juice, I think it will do you wonders.
Quote from: Jill F on April 10, 2014, 08:06:07 PM
Go for it! That would be fun. Not as fun as girls with guitars though... :laugh:
Is there a girls with guitars thread too? I'll post in both.
Quote from: TiffanyT on April 11, 2014, 02:56:29 AM
Is there a girls with guitars thread too? I'll post in both.
That could be arranged. The only pics of me with a guitar are umm, outdated right now. Maybe I should do a photo shoot? I collect guitars in bright colors, so it might be fun. Wish I had a pair of pink go-go boots to go with my paisley Telecaster!
Quote from: Madison (kiara jamie) on April 10, 2014, 07:24:56 PM
well it is not airsoft, airsoft is just lame, and if you don't believe me i have a video i can show that shows it is definetly not airsoft, its a sig sauer sig516 with an eotech sight, i also have others
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi930.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad144%2Finfinitepure%2F20140201_230146.jpg&hash=5c1a00a764ee74778a41f0a876ee4383eaca6e24) (http://s930.photobucket.com/user/infinitepure/media/20140201_230146.jpg.html)
sig516, remington 700 .308, remington versamax tactical, and my M&P 9mm
im a bit of a gun nut and am waiting for the next shipment from keltec to hit calgary so i can buy a RFB, and a KSG
They...Are...Beautiful! D:
Sometimes I hate living in a country with such strict gun control laws -.-'
Yesterday I had a meeting in a university located in the mainland. Some people commented that I now looker better and prettier, but two guys commented badly on both my makeup and fashion.
One guy said that I look like a barmaid, and the main factor is my dark makeup. Too much eye shadow and the too strong red lipstick. He recommended me to wear makeup conservatively. And the other guy commented that my skirt is too short, exposing the band areas of silk stockings.
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5111/13776693724_86c4199e49_o.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7093/13776063443_15e3b0f195_o.jpg)
Usually women tend to praise my fashion, but the first guy is too much critical. We later talked again for > 2 hours while drinking beer together. His point of talking was that I have better wear makeup conservatively to be matched with my age, if I indeed want to look pretty to other people. For this reason, I did not wear eye shadow today.
Anyway, whether I pass or not, I always used women's restroom. Of course, the guy also recommended me to enter women's.
An unusual moment happened. I once entered a restroom in the airport to pull up the stockings. When I raised the band areas in the front of mirror, one little girl there with her mom seemed to whisper like "looks like a man", but her mom seemed to dissuade her from saying further.
I expect more exciting moments while I am in Hawaii next week!
barbie~~
Hi Barbie, I think you always look great. :)
From the photos, I don't see any problem with your make-up. I do see what they mean by the stockings though, try go stocking free next time you wear that skirt.
Have from in Hawaii, I am jealous! :D
Quote from: barbie on April 11, 2014, 06:09:30 AM
Yesterday I had a meeting in a university located in the mainland. Some people commented that I now looker better and prettier, but two guys commented badly on both my makeup and fashion.
One guy said that I look like a barmaid, and the main factor is my dark makeup. Too much eye shadow and the too strong red lipstick. He recommended me to wear makeup conservatively. And the other guy commented that my skirt is too short, exposing the band areas of silk stockings.
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5111/13776693724_86c4199e49_o.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7093/13776063443_15e3b0f195_o.jpg)
Usually women tend to praise my fashion, but the first guy is too much critical. We later talked again for > 2 hours while drinking beer together. His point of talking was that I have better wear makeup conservatively to be matched with my age, if I indeed want to look pretty to other people. For this reason, I did not wear eye shadow today.
Anyway, whether I pass or not, I always used women's restroom. Of course, the guy also recommended me to enter women's.
An unusual moment happened. I once entered a restroom in the airport to pull up the stockings. When I raised the band areas in the front of mirror, one little girl there with her mom seemed to whisper like "looks like a man", but her mom seemed to dissuade her from saying further.
I expect more exciting moments while I am in Hawaii next week!
barbie~~
i have seen the most common thing that most transgender women do that gets them clocked, is that most don't dress their age which makes them stand out and when you stand out people look at you further to investigate, not to upset you barbie but i have always thought your skirts were a little young for you, i saw you in a nice knee length skirt and it looked really good imo
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7090/13424983773_86f0a0a9ac_o.jpg)
Quote from: barbie on April 11, 2014, 06:09:30 AM
Yesterday I had a meeting in a university located in the mainland. Some people commented that I now looker better and prettier, but two guys commented badly on both my makeup and fashion.
One guy said that I look like a barmaid, and the main factor is my dark makeup. Too much eye shadow and the too strong red lipstick. He recommended me to wear makeup conservatively. And the other guy commented that my skirt is too short, exposing the band areas of silk stockings.
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5111/13776693724_86c4199e49_o.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7093/13776063443_15e3b0f195_o.jpg)
Usually women tend to praise my fashion, but the first guy is too much critical. We later talked again for > 2 hours while drinking beer together. His point of talking was that I have better wear makeup conservatively to be matched with my age, if I indeed want to look pretty to other people. For this reason, I did not wear eye shadow today.
Anyway, whether I pass or not, I always used women's restroom. Of course, the guy also recommended me to enter women's.
An unusual moment happened. I once entered a restroom in the airport to pull up the stockings. When I raised the band areas in the front of mirror, one little girl there with her mom seemed to whisper like "looks like a man", but her mom seemed to dissuade her from saying further.
I expect more exciting moments while I am in Hawaii next week!
barbie~~
I think you look better in short skirts because your body is like that. Kids have this 5 th dimensional sense to them . they can see in the minutest detail because their brain isn't cluttered and they're like super sponges absorbing things.
Quote from: barbie on April 11, 2014, 06:09:30 AM
Yesterday I had a meeting in a university located in the mainland. Some people commented that I now looker better and prettier, but two guys commented badly on both my makeup and fashion.
One guy said that I look like a barmaid, and the main factor is my dark makeup. Too much eye shadow and the too strong red lipstick. He recommended me to wear makeup conservatively. And the other guy commented that my skirt is too short, exposing the band areas of silk stockings.
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5111/13776693724_86c4199e49_o.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7093/13776063443_15e3b0f195_o.jpg)
Usually women tend to praise my fashion, but the first guy is too much critical. We later talked again for > 2 hours while drinking beer together. His point of talking was that I have better wear makeup conservatively to be matched with my age, if I indeed want to look pretty to other people. For this reason, I did not wear eye shadow today.
Anyway, whether I pass or not, I always used women's restroom. Of course, the guy also recommended me to enter women's.
An unusual moment happened. I once entered a restroom in the airport to pull up the stockings. When I raised the band areas in the front of mirror, one little girl there with her mom seemed to whisper like "looks like a man", but her mom seemed to dissuade her from saying further.
I expect more exciting moments while I am in Hawaii next week!
barbie~~
If it was me being told by two guys how to dress, I definitely find some one else to have a conversation with. It seems kind of rude. If a girl friend tried to do the same thing I just tell them that it was an interesting point of view.
Quote from: barbie on April 11, 2014, 06:09:30 AM
Yesterday I had a meeting in a university located in the mainland. Some people commented that I now looker better and prettier, but two guys commented badly on both my makeup and fashion.
One guy said that I look like a barmaid, and the main factor is my dark makeup. Too much eye shadow and the too strong red lipstick. He recommended me to wear makeup conservatively. And the other guy commented that my skirt is too short, exposing the band areas of silk stockings.
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5111/13776693724_86c4199e49_o.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7093/13776063443_15e3b0f195_o.jpg)
Usually women tend to praise my fashion, but the first guy is too much critical. We later talked again for > 2 hours while drinking beer together. His point of talking was that I have better wear makeup conservatively to be matched with my age, if I indeed want to look pretty to other people. For this reason, I did not wear eye shadow today.
Anyway, whether I pass or not, I always used women's restroom. Of course, the guy also recommended me to enter women's.
An unusual moment happened. I once entered a restroom in the airport to pull up the stockings. When I raised the band areas in the front of mirror, one little girl there with her mom seemed to whisper like "looks like a man", but her mom seemed to dissuade her from saying further.
I expect more exciting moments while I am in Hawaii next week!
barbie~~
It is too short, just an honest opinion from another girl. The women who "praise your fashion" do you think they are really just being - polite? I don't know... I'd certainly want to know. lol.
Barbie you really are working it however. If you enjoy it then more power to you! :D
took this today. I started herbal hormones last thursday (that I got from my local herbal store last week) and so far Im pretty sure im having some type of changes like the area around my nipple is starting to get pointier so hopefully this stuff will do the trick lol.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F1798659_777920288893852_7096527376848174454_n_zps30a872e7.jpg&hash=b5ef38753dbec16574f7e14f1d003a6530c8139d)
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on April 12, 2014, 12:04:24 AM
took this today. I started herbal hormones last thursday (that I got from my local herbal store last week) and so far Im pretty sure im having some type of changes like the area around my nipple is starting to get pointier so hopefully this stuff will do the trick lol.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F1798659_777920288893852_7096527376848174454_n_zps30a872e7.jpg&hash=b5ef38753dbec16574f7e14f1d003a6530c8139d)
Prettttyyy..... :)
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on April 12, 2014, 12:04:24 AM
took this today. I started herbal hormones last thursday (that I got from my local herbal store last week) and so far Im pretty sure im having some type of changes like the area around my nipple is starting to get pointier so hopefully this stuff will do the trick lol.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F1798659_777920288893852_7096527376848174454_n_zps30a872e7.jpg&hash=b5ef38753dbec16574f7e14f1d003a6530c8139d)
Looking very cute
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on April 12, 2014, 12:04:24 AM
took this today. I started herbal hormones last thursday (that I got from my local herbal store last week) and so far Im pretty sure im having some type of changes like the area around my nipple is starting to get pointier so hopefully this stuff will do the trick lol.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F1798659_777920288893852_7096527376848174454_n_zps30a872e7.jpg&hash=b5ef38753dbec16574f7e14f1d003a6530c8139d)
You look very feminine Angélique.
No wig this time! Bed selfie~
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FI1kT3gK.jpg&hash=2a9ceb1fb0c97d7e1a9d59e44d5ba38770021242)
Still pre-everything!
Quote from: Chic on April 12, 2014, 02:15:06 PM
No wig this time! Bed selfie~
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FI1kT3gK.jpg&hash=2a9ceb1fb0c97d7e1a9d59e44d5ba38770021242)
Still pre-everything!
I think you're doing very well chic!
Sorry if I posted this in the wrong forum, I only want to cross dress and there doesn't appear to be such a thread there. I do need an honest answer, even though it would sting a little bit to learn I couldn't pass as a woman:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111344407@N03/
Obviously, I'll need to tilt the head down and avoid the horrible up-nose view. I've looked into the various ways I can dress to hide my broad shoulders. If I absolutely can avoid it, I don't want surgery or HRT. I'll have to somehow hide my square jaw too.
So, honest answers anyone?
EDIT: Chic and Angélique LaCava, you both look stunning!
Quote from: Kimberley Beauregard on April 12, 2014, 03:01:59 PM
Sorry if I posted this in the wrong forum, I only want to cross dress and there doesn't appear to be such a thread there. I do need an honest answer, even though it would sting a little bit to learn I couldn't pass as a woman:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111344407@N03/
Obviously, I'll need to tilt the head down and avoid the horrible up-nose view. I've looked into the various ways I can dress to hide my broad shoulders. If I absolutely can avoid it, I don't want surgery or HRT. I'll have to somehow hide my square jaw too.
So, honest answers anyone?
EDIT: Chic and Angélique LaCava, you both look stunning!
Thank you very much!
I've gotten some good advice from friends, so here goes: If you have broad shoulders, eat lots of soy and hummus. These will naturally help with reducing muscle mass and may help with your shoulder predicament. I recommend wearing black and white horizontally striped sweatshirts. This will give the illusion of not only being shorter, but having smaller shoulders. Ever notice how people who wear horizontal stripes look taller, that's the same concept.
Honestly, I think you could pass as female if you shaved, shaped your eyebrows, wore some makeup and grew your hair out/used a wig. Longer hair or a wig can be used to conceal the squareness of your jaw or at least shape it (square-shaped jaws are actually a good-looking trait in a lot of women though too) HRT would really help for fat redistribution in the face and other areas of the body, as well as reducing the visual size of the shoulders, but seeing as taking hormones isn't your plan, that's the best advice I can give you based on what I know!
Quote from: Kimberley Beauregard on April 12, 2014, 03:01:59 PM
Sorry if I posted this in the wrong forum, I only want to cross dress and there doesn't appear to be such a thread there. I do need an honest answer, even though it would sting a little bit to learn I couldn't pass as a woman:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111344407@N03/
Obviously, I'll need to tilt the head down and avoid the horrible up-nose view. I've looked into the various ways I can dress to hide my broad shoulders. If I absolutely can avoid it, I don't want surgery or HRT. I'll have to somehow hide my square jaw too.
So, honest answers anyone?
EDIT: Chic and Angélique LaCava, you both look stunning!
With some makeup and an eyebrow trim, I don't see why you should have any trouble passing. I don't think you'll need to hide your square jaw. It's actually common for Asian women to have wider jaws (and in my opinion, more attractive).
Quote from: Mickie on April 12, 2014, 02:16:35 PM
I think you're doing very well chic!
Thanks so much! :)
Quote from: Kimberley Beauregard on April 12, 2014, 03:01:59 PM
Sorry if I posted this in the wrong forum, I only want to cross dress and there doesn't appear to be such a thread there. I do need an honest answer, even though it would sting a little bit to learn I couldn't pass as a woman:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111344407@N03/
Obviously, I'll need to tilt the head down and avoid the horrible up-nose view. I've looked into the various ways I can dress to hide my broad shoulders. If I absolutely can avoid it, I don't want surgery or HRT. I'll have to somehow hide my square jaw too.
So, honest answers anyone?
EDIT: Chic and Angélique LaCava, you both look stunning!
I think you are going to do great, HRT or not. I guess it depends on what end result you want. Its always hard to say for sure when someone is in boy mode but I my opinion you would do fine. :)
Lara, river and Chic: thank you! I did consider HRT at one point but if you ignore the nasty side effects, it would also kill some of my masculine traits. I just don't want to take any permanent measures. I like working out and pushing weights, but I can aim for high strength without building muscle mass (you do this by lifting more with as little as three reps and longer rests). That said, I still have a garish upside-down triangle shape so I'll include hummus in my diet. I don't want to lose too much of my strength but I wouldn't mind reducing the rise of my upper body.
I won't be growing out my hair because... well, I can't. I go shaven/skinhead because have very little hair on top. However, I've seen some nice wigs. This one caught my eye:
http://www.cross-dress.com/Incognito-Wigs/Incognito-Style-296-Obsession.html
I like the black and burgundy wine colours.
I've looked at tutorials for eyebrow threading, I doubt anyone will notice if I shape them. A great friend recommended Bare Minerals for makeup but I'll have to experiment with some cheap stuff to achieve a look that will suit me. I've also sourced waist cinchers and padded boyshorts.
Chic, is your first name "..ooooOHH FREAK OUT!"?
Anyway, thanks again!
Thanks for offering your side - I'll consider HRT as a last resort. In the meantime, I might put more of a focus on working my muscles through cardio.
Some exercises may actually be feminizing. For example, working your hamstrings and your glutes, and doing exercises to give yourself a thinner, more defined waist :)
I'll definitely look into those exercises, especially hip exercises (but I'm not ruling out the use of padding). Thanks again.
I'm 31 and like to dress from time to time. So I'm not sure if I just wanna be a dresser and go back to boy mode or if I wanna just become a woman. What does everyone think of my look?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannitgirl/13276012124/in/photostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannitgirl/13276012124/in/photostream/)
(https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=275566632611828&set=a.275566609278497.1073741825.100004754801718&type=1&theater)
Quote from: cutiepiedanielle on April 12, 2014, 07:31:12 PM
I'm 31 and like to dress from time to time. So I'm not sure if I just wanna be a dresser and go back to boy mode or if I wanna just become a woman. What does everyone think of my look?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannitgirl/13276012124/in/photostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannitgirl/13276012124/in/photostream/)
(https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=275566632611828&set=a.275566609278497.1073741825.100004754801718&type=1&theater)
It's a good look for you. You have soft features which certainly helps.
Ok, so ive been a bit drunky tonight haha
The first is during the drunkeness, the second is after ive sobered up a bit and Im attempting to look smexy ;D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F228zcW3.jpg&hash=b9f90bb46aa3cf99026096cf864daae056b752d0)
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Which is better?
Quote from: AshleeLC on April 13, 2014, 11:04:56 AM
Ok, so ive been a bit drunky tonight haha
The first is during the drunkeness, the second is after ive sobered up a bit and Im attempting to look smexy ;D
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Which is better?
Your eyes look better in the first, but overall I prefer the second one.
Quote from: AshleeLC on April 13, 2014, 11:04:56 AM
Ok, so ive been a bit drunky tonight haha
The first is during the drunkeness, the second is after ive sobered up a bit and Im attempting to look smexy ;D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F228zcW3.jpg&hash=b9f90bb46aa3cf99026096cf864daae056b752d0)
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Which is better?
beautiful ^_^ i like the first ;)
You can judge by my avatar, that's me pre-anything at all. I still can't figure loading pics; I'll upload a few once I'm able to, so you can get a full shot. I do have a ton of make-up on, only really to cover beard and soften features a bit. I definitely would need ffs, not a total overhaul, but some tweaks. Passing is big for me, so I'd like opinions...
You most definitely would. You certainly look very female in your avatar.
Quote from: Kimberley Beauregard on April 13, 2014, 11:51:57 AM
You most definitely would. You certainly look very female in your avatar.
Well, I am wearing a wig and have a ton of makeup on. I've lost some hair, it's about that color, but I still have a good deal left. If hrt stopped any further loss, then I'd probably be in good shape for hairline feminization and thickening across the entire scalp. I'd love to grow my hair that long afterward and have it similarly styled. The makeup, which I suck at, is mostly for beard coverage, but it softens the features a bit and makes me look like I have a more feminine skin texture: which after electro and hrt I'd hopefully have anyway. I'd also get ffs, like I said, I'd say some things need to be worked on...
Quote from: TheQuestion on April 13, 2014, 12:03:14 PM
Well, I am wearing a wig and have a ton of makeup on. I've lost some hair, it's about that color, but I still have a good deal left. If hrt stopped any further loss, then I'd probably be in good shape for hairline feminization and thickening across the entire scalp. I'd love to grow my hair that long afterward and have it similarly styled. The makeup, which I suck at, is mostly for beard coverage, but it softens the features a bit and makes me look like I have a more feminine skin texture: which after electro and hrt I'd hopefully have anyway. I'd also get ffs, like I said, I'd say some things need to be worked on...
You look really cute there hon!
Quote from: AshleeLC on April 13, 2014, 11:04:56 AM
Ok, so ive been a bit drunky tonight haha
The first is during the drunkeness, the second is after ive sobered up a bit and Im attempting to look smexy ;D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F228zcW3.jpg&hash=b9f90bb46aa3cf99026096cf864daae056b752d0)
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Which is better?
Both!
Pre-everything STILL lol
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fabulous
I think I never posted a full body pic here...so here they come:
I know I still have a lot of weight to lose...I went from around 85kg to 66kg for 170cm (sorry, I use the metric system), which should now be a normal weight, but I am still looking chubby >:( and I hate my upper arms!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2514%2F291.jpg&hash=ff57a42b3f3ee39addfb71b2dbce0e1604290c83)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2514%2F292.jpg&hash=4e28407a6f4e5044331f13d3512bd90b8b2e9697)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2514%2F293.jpg&hash=3770aa8cd93fb6bd6f73e63fa10f44ba70bf72f0)
Very cute Natalia. I love those shoes and your posture reads very feminine.
Hope I can pass as female!
Let me know what you gals think.
Not sure how to load pics in here.
Sierra
Quote from: Natalia on April 14, 2014, 07:11:55 AM
I think I never posted a full body pic here...so here they come:
I know I still have a lot of weight to lose...I went from around 85kg to 66kg for 170cm (sorry, I use the metric system), which should now be a normal weight, but I am still looking chubby >:( and I hate my upper arms!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2514%2F291.jpg&hash=ff57a42b3f3ee39addfb71b2dbce0e1604290c83)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2514%2F292.jpg&hash=4e28407a6f4e5044331f13d3512bd90b8b2e9697)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2514%2F293.jpg&hash=3770aa8cd93fb6bd6f73e63fa10f44ba70bf72f0)
You look very pretty. it has got be a gorgeous spring day for you.
Do I look like a girl yet?
I have been on hormones for over three years and I feel like I don't pass.
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I wish my hair would hurry up and grow too. It feels so short to me. I have been trying to grow it out for over five years at this point and it has just reached below my belly button on the back side and almost reaching it on the front. I have been aiming for classic length, but it is awhile off until there. The picture below is my goal.
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HoneyBunny your smile looks a little strained but I would never clock you from those pictures. My smile is much worse.
Yep, I think the smile is too strained, you might need to go lighter on the makeup (but it can still look good) and if you can figure out how to shape your eyebrows a bit, that might help :) But yes, you do pass and you even look pretty, whether you will believe it or not ;) You might be able to still see the guy hidden in there, but seriously, look at most cis women and imagine that they were trans women and had transitioned. You could see the "guy" in them, too (though not all of them, but that is also true for a few of us, too).
Quote from: HoneyBunny on April 14, 2014, 07:03:10 PM
Do I look like a girl yet?
I have been on hormones for over three years and I feel like I don't pass.
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HoneyBunny you're passing - but one thing I want you to do in addition to smiling...
... I want you to smile with your eyes. It will make a whole lot of difference.
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;)
Got my ID today. Do I pass in the photo?
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Not your best photo... I thought you had FFS on you jawline?
DMV photos usually are never flattering, so take heart.
Quote from: Evelyn K on April 14, 2014, 08:45:37 PM
Not your best photo... I thought you had FFS on you jawline?
DMV photos usually are never flattering, so take heart.
no. I havnt had any plastic surgery or hormones
Quote from: Natalia on April 14, 2014, 07:11:55 AM
I think I never posted a full body pic here...so here they come:
I know I still have a lot of weight to lose...I went from around 85kg to 66kg for 170cm (sorry, I use the metric system), which should now be a normal weight, but I am still looking chubby >:( and I hate my upper arms!
NOTHING and I mean NOTHING chubby about you, Natalia
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on April 14, 2014, 08:40:12 PM
Got my ID today. Do I pass in the photo?
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Yeah just ignore anyone who says you look anything less than fantastic. You pass better than 95% of the people I have seen here, and you aren't even on HRT yet! Good work!
Quote from: Ultimus on April 14, 2014, 09:53:08 PM
Yeah just ignore anyone who says you look anything less than fantastic. You pass better than 95% of the people I have seen here, and you aren't even on HRT yet! Good work!
I didn't really like how I looked in it. maybe its just the angle cause on my digital camera I look like this. the woman at the DMV had me looking ar a blue dot under the lens so maybe that messed up the angle cause I look like im looking down in the pic.
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Boymode ftw
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Quote from: Angélique LaCava on April 14, 2014, 08:40:12 PM
Got my ID today. Do I pass in the photo?
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Yes, you pass. You do look like a masculine woman, but a woman nonetheless.
Quote from: Chic on April 14, 2014, 09:58:49 PM
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Noice, noice. Do you have a chick mode? I imagine you could look very pretty :)
For me, I have a pretty masculine jaw and chest, and between those and my height, I am going to have some troubles "passing." I haven't tried yet, and I have gotten advice from elsewhere (straighten my hair, or give it more volume, and my eyebrows could do with some shaping). Here is an older pic (a few days on hormones) and a recent pic (3 days ago, 40 days on hormones, and I was in a rush to get to work, so I couldn't hold steady).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6l5yMJH.jpg&hash=9f56549a946fc38939264c3c44858fd6c57625ae)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4DQvfxh.jpg&hash=1d0eeeef9ea098791d744185da5e7b4f26735ac9)
I feel like I look kind of alien-ish in the second.
Quote from: Zeda on April 15, 2014, 06:45:47 AM
Yes, you pass. You do look like a masculine woman, but a woman nonetheless.Noice, noice. Do you have a chick mode? I imagine you could look very pretty :)
For me, I have a pretty masculine jaw and chest, and between those and my height, I am going to have some troubles "passing." I haven't tried yet, and I have gotten advice from elsewhere (straighten my hair, or give it more volume, and my eyebrows could do with some shaping). Here is an older pic (a few days on hormones) and a recent pic (3 days ago, 40 days on hormones, and I was in a rush to get to work, so I couldn't hold steady).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6l5yMJH.jpg&hash=9f56549a946fc38939264c3c44858fd6c57625ae)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4DQvfxh.jpg&hash=1d0eeeef9ea098791d744185da5e7b4f26735ac9)
I feel like I look kind of alien-ish in the second.
I'm going to be honest... I don't see a problem at all, you don't just pass... you look female....
You look like a fit, physically capable girl, that's all.
Your first pic, with the hair on the side, you really look great.
and I can't stop staring at your eyes.... :)
Quote from: Ultimus on April 14, 2014, 09:53:08 PM
Yeah just ignore anyone who says you look anything less than fantastic. You pass better than 95% of the people I have seen here, and you aren't even on HRT yet! Good work!
You look like my step mother when she was younger, so yeh, definite pass.
Quote from: Zeda on April 15, 2014, 06:45:47 AM
For me, I have a pretty masculine jaw and chest, and between those and my height, I am going to have some troubles "passing." I haven't tried yet, and I have gotten advice from elsewhere (straighten my hair, or give it more volume, and my eyebrows could do with some shaping). Here is an older pic (a few days on hormones) and a recent pic (3 days ago, 40 days on hormones, and I was in a rush to get to work, so I couldn't hold steady).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6l5yMJH.jpg&hash=9f56549a946fc38939264c3c44858fd6c57625ae)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4DQvfxh.jpg&hash=1d0eeeef9ea098791d744185da5e7b4f26735ac9)
I feel like I look kind of alien-ish in the second.
You do have a masculine jaw, but otherwise your features seem very feminine. I'd say the HRT will really work well (and it already clearly is :))
Cool, my hope is that I will just have a masculine-featured female face. I know my hands won't change much, nor my chest, but I am cool with that.
Well here is goes. Currently i am 32 and starting hrt in a few weeks. At the moment i have little to no confidence at this stage, any helpful hints would be appreciated.
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Quote from: HoneyBunny on April 14, 2014, 07:03:10 PM
Do I look like a girl yet?
Yes and a very good looking one too.
You posted your "boy mode" photo in another thread. That was a big time #malefail. There was no "boy" in that photo.
i wanna lose some weight, pre-everything boy mode :(, the second one was too dark and i tried to brighten it up :laugh:
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Quote from: Zoe the Obscure on April 15, 2014, 01:47:39 PM
Well here is goes. Currently i am 32 and starting hrt in a few weeks. At the moment i have little to no confidence at this stage, any helpful hints would be appreciated.
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You will probably pass with hormones. You could still technically pass without, but if you want to avoid looking too masculine, the hormones will help a lot. I think longer hair or at least fuller would help.
Quote from: SilverGirl on April 15, 2014, 08:16:04 PM
i wanna lose some weight, pre-everything boy mode :(, the second one was too dark and i tried to brighten it up :laugh:
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You could probably pull it off pre-mones, with some work. Have you started with voice work? If you can do a female sounding voice, that would put you in a really good position in terms of passing.
I've been on HRT for two weeks. Please give me your thoughts and any ideas for improvements! :)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h765ti3e0ze7ly3/20140412_173750.jpg
EDIT: I just put the same photo that is in this link as my avatar. Makes it easier ;)
Quote from: kate on April 16, 2014, 01:47:21 PM
I had to check which forums i was in their Devon lol. I didn't want to say you looked very feminine and realise i was posting in the FtM threads. You really do look lovely babe x
Thanks! :)
100th page! :D
I don't have any new pictures atm.
Devon, you look great already, a few months into HRT and you're gonna look unbelievably femme!
Quote from: Chic on April 16, 2014, 02:49:15 PM
100th page! :D
I don't have any new pictures atm.
Devon, you look great already, a few months into HRT and you're gonna look unbelievably femme!
Thanks so much! I really hope that i will! ;D
BTW, your photo in your avatar looks spectacular! :)
Quote from: devon14 on April 16, 2014, 02:53:02 PM
Thanks so much! I really hope that i will! ;D
BTW, your photo in your avatar looks spectacular! :)
Thank you! I'm pre-everything :)
Quote from: Chic on April 16, 2014, 02:56:12 PM
Thank you! I'm pre-everything :)
Oh my god, now I'm super jelly!
Quote from: devon14 on April 16, 2014, 02:58:10 PM
Oh my god, now I'm super jelly!
Don't be! Passing is in the heart, not the way you look. So if you can pass through mannerisms, personality and attitude, anyone will believe you.
Quote from: Chic on April 16, 2014, 04:11:26 PM
Don't be! Passing is in the heart, not the way you look. So if you can pass through mannerisms, personality and attitude, anyone will believe you.
Thanks for the kind words :)
Quote from: devon14 on April 16, 2014, 01:25:16 PM
I've been on HRT for two weeks. Please give me your thoughts and any ideas for improvements! :)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h765ti3e0ze7ly3/20140412_173750.jpg
EDIT: I just put the same photo that is in this link as my avatar. Makes it easier ;)
Looking good! Cool top. :)
Quote from: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on April 17, 2014, 06:58:27 PM
Looking good! Cool top. :)
Thanks! I found it at my local good will for near nothing.
Quote from: devon14 on April 16, 2014, 01:25:16 PM
I've been on HRT for two weeks. Please give me your thoughts and any ideas for improvements! :)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h765ti3e0ze7ly3/20140412_173750.jpg
EDIT: I just put the same photo that is in this link as my avatar. Makes it easier ;)
i really like how cute and happy you look in the pic, lovely smile! *hugs*
Quote from: devon14 on April 16, 2014, 01:25:16 PM
I've been on HRT for two weeks. Please give me your thoughts and any ideas for improvements! :)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h765ti3e0ze7ly3/20140412_173750.jpg
EDIT: I just put the same photo that is in this link as my avatar. Makes it easier ;)
Looking nice Devon! The top to me feels like it is missing something, perhaps a nice wide high-waisted belt? I'm thinking something like this:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic---triplelux.app-hosted.com%2Fmedia%2Fimg%2FTRIPLELUX%2F-%2F6%2F6017_1_brn.jpg&hash=4d8996ea54b95390c402a3a8727ea0c289dff15e)
Quote from: Alaia on April 17, 2014, 07:14:48 PM
Looking nice Devon! The top to me feels like it is missing something, perhaps a nice wide high-waisted belt? I'm thinking something like this:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic---triplelux.app-hosted.com%2Fmedia%2Fimg%2FTRIPLELUX%2F-%2F6%2F6017_1_brn.jpg&hash=4d8996ea54b95390c402a3a8727ea0c289dff15e)
That's a really good idea! I'll look for one next time i go shopping.
Quote from: SilverGirl on April 17, 2014, 07:03:18 PM
i really like how cute and happy you look in the pic, lovely smile! *hugs*
Thanks! :) This was the same day that I went to the salon for the first time and got my hair done so I was pretty happy that day! :D
Quote from: devon14 on April 17, 2014, 07:35:20 PM
That's a really good idea! I'll look for one next time i go shopping.
i'd also recommend necklaces, i think silver goes well (though that's kind of obvious if you read my nickname :laugh:) with dark clothing like the one you are wearing on the pic, at least that's what i would use :x
I am in Big Island of Hawaii.
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2905/13902295676_b93a448efe_c.jpg)
Do I pass?
barbie~~
Quote from: barbie on April 18, 2014, 12:42:35 PM
I am in Big Island of Hawaii.
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2905/13902295676_b93a448efe_c.jpg)
Do I pass?
barbie~~
You look beautiful honey! I love your smile. You definitely work that red lipstick!
Quote from: barbie on April 18, 2014, 12:42:35 PM
I am in Big Island of Hawaii.
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2905/13902295676_b93a448efe_c.jpg)
Do I pass?
barbie~~
of course you pass, silly
Quote from: barbie on April 18, 2014, 12:42:35 PM
I am in Big Island of Hawaii.
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2905/13902295676_b93a448efe_c.jpg)
Do I pass?
barbie~~
Oh Barbie, my oh my! :)
Well friends, it's time to lock this topic and start a NEW ONE!!! (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,163371.msg1406081.html#msg1406081)
Hugs
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