Here you go 8) Post away
Hugs
lol it should be in 4D now with motion seats
Where do the old posts go?
Quote from: Brett on August 07, 2014, 07:12:27 PM
Where do the old posts go?
They are still contained in the Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) forum
Quote from: V M on August 07, 2014, 09:56:35 PM
They are still contained in the Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) forum
Not to be an idiot, but where? Meaning, do we have access to it? Thanks.
Quote from: Brett on August 08, 2014, 06:37:03 PM
Not to be an idiot, but where? Meaning, do we have access to it? Thanks.
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,138925.0.html
Quote from: Brett on August 08, 2014, 06:37:03 PM
Not to be an idiot, but where? Meaning, do we have access to it? Thanks.
Yup :) You just have to scroll through the Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) forum to find them because it is an unstickied topic now
Quote from: V M on August 08, 2014, 07:18:57 PM
Yup :) You just have to scroll through the Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) forum to find them because it is an unstickied topic now
Oh, I see. ;D
I'm curious to know why you all close the thread and start new instead of just letting it run. Is it a system issue?
I think it just has something to do with the number of pages. I don't think most people want to look through a hundred pages of posts; it's just easier to start over.
cool, thanks for the update!
Stop me if this isn't the place to post
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I'm getting borderline depressed about my appearance. I've been on T for 5.5 months and I feel like I look the same now as I did pre-T. My voice is a bit better (but it was a squeaky nightmare to begin with) but I only pass about 10% of the time. I guess I look like a guy if you're a little kid or an old person. I'm about to start my job as a high school teacher and I'm afraid none of my students (and few of my colleagues) will take me seriously. I have crazy bad acne, I'm short, my voice is still too high, and I don't know what to do. I honestly just want to hibernate for a year. I have the tiniest peach chin fuzz that only serves the purpose of making my acne worse.
I want to look at pictures of other trans guys to get hints and tips on how to pass better, but it's so triggering that I can barely stand it.
Is there anything I can do? What is causing me to not pass? Is it the haircut? Acne? Hips? Chubby cheeks? Posture?
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I would love any advice you guys have to offer. Be harsh. What can I do? I keep telling myself to just be patient but I feel like I haven't changed at all and I'm getting angry and sad.
Hi, Whynaut. I do think maybe you should do something different with your hair. I would seek out a more masculine style (or the same style shorter? don't know, just something that I think needs to be different...someone else will weigh in).
The reason I posted was to tell you that I remember your pre-T pics and I do think that your face is more masculine now. You have more of a jawline than you did before. Check out some of your old pictures (at least the ones you put up here), and I really think you will see a difference. You will get there!
@AvaCadaver, you pass well, I see a handsome young man.
@Whynaut, I think you pass better with glasses. Your face is not feminine, but the glasses make it more angular and masculine. Your hips are not terrible, could be easily fixed with clothing. Give the T more time.
Whynaut, I'm sure that T will help your fat redistribute to give you a more masculine appearance. You pass a bit better with the square glasses like others have said before. The hips can tend to be a pain for many including myself. This is a big suggestion but if you haven't yet you could do something athletic or workout? That helps to increase testosterone in the body (not by a ton, but it helps) not to mention give you a more muscular body, shed fat (fat doesn't burn in places you want it to burn, it burns off overall but either way you could lose a bit on your cheeks hips etc. which could help you achieve a more masculine appearance), and even build more confidence. Until then, I think you'll have to try to hide your hips with boxy tops that don't cling to one's figure (especially if it clings to your waist.. if it does that when you try it on at the store, put it back on the rack no matter how nice of a shirt it is, it won't work, at least not now). It's summer which makes clothing much more of a hassle since it's much harder to layer clothes without overheating. Anyways, good luck ! Personally to me, you look a bit androgynous in the facial pictures, but not so in the full body picture due to the figure. I think with little changes, you could definitely be a pass.
Quote from: AvaCadaver on August 10, 2014, 04:13:00 PM
Stop me if this isn't the place to post
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100% pass. You kind of remind me of a blonde-haired Dylan O'Brien. Maybe that's just me. Handsome face, too. ^_^
Idk what to do about my hips :/ I'm certain my face is passable to a degree, but can you guys tell me if my bodyshape is possibly androgynous or at least not female? Here is a full body picture (take note, this is the most skin I'd show.. I usually wear kind of baggy clothes that cover up most of me so I can disguise my figure) ;
(Also, please don't quote the picture. I want to take it down later.)
Maleth, your face is definitely a pass. Your hips don't seem too bad to me, but it's kinda hard to tell with where/how your shirt ends. If I saw you in public I'd peg you as a dude though.
Quote from: devention on August 11, 2014, 10:40:10 AM
Maleth, your face is definitely a pass. Your hips don't seem too bad to me, but it's kinda hard to tell with where/how your shirt ends. If I saw you in public I'd peg you as a dude though.
Thanks, man.. I'll update with a clearer picture. That one was pretty low quality and the lighting wasn't too good either.
Edit: Updated with better photo. (I don't know why, but whenever I send pictures to my e-mail, they look good quality on my phone but awful quality on my computer. I have an iPhone 5 if that makes a difference.. it used to be fine and only started doing this now.)
Whynaut: I suggest staying away from tank tops, as they accentuate your thin arms. I never wear them for the same reason. Not too big of shirts either because the big sleeves make arms look even more like chicken legs...but arms...
Maleth: Honestly, I think ya look good. Your shoulders look broad. I guess your legs are thin, but in the end, they're just legs.
So it's been awhile since I've dropped by. My confidence of late has skyrocketed. I think it's because my medication for my mood disorder is finally helping. So I have a couple pics and couple videos I'm going to post.
Images:
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Videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHpuuzF-hnE&list=UU0x2-9ggsYIpQjULTSFc7Jw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT9xWQVzKfY&list=UU0x2-9ggsYIpQjULTSFc7Jw
I don't watch my own videos, it's a dysphoria thing. But these are not just talking, I sing. Obviously you wont have a clue what I'm tlaking about personal life wise, but I'm curious how you all think I do vocally. I'm pre everything btw, so this is likely to improve later, but this is what i'm stuck with for another several, several months at minimum.
As for the images. Yes that is facial hair. No it's not normally THAT dark. After dabbling with assorted make-up styles I decided to stop shaving for awhile and see where my hair grows. I'll be damned if I didn't start getting patches. So I tried darkening my hair with eye liner, and that is the result. It passes in public, as I've went out in public like this many times and have never been given a second glance.
Anyway. Thoughts are appreciated negative or positive. Hoping I can get a really good passability pre T so that I can make due until I can FINALLY get in to see someone about starting HRT.
Anyhow, cheers. Thanks for reading the babble.
Maleth not bad bro. Nothing really stands out as overly conspicuous. You have a decent shape imo
StirfriedKraut I am a bit jealous. You look and sound great, especially in the second vid. I have to admit I haven't had time to watch through all of both of them. But yeah you're just all guy from where I'm standing, or sitting rather.
Quote from: Whynaut on August 10, 2014, 07:00:36 PM
I'm getting borderline depressed about my appearance. I've been on T for 5.5 months and I feel like I look the same now as I did pre-T. My voice is a bit better (but it was a squeaky nightmare to begin with) but I only pass about 10% of the time. I guess I look like a guy if you're a little kid or an old person. I'm about to start my job as a high school teacher and I'm afraid none of my students (and few of my colleagues) will take me seriously. I have crazy bad acne, I'm short, my voice is still too high, and I don't know what to do. I honestly just want to hibernate for a year. I have the tiniest peach chin fuzz that only serves the purpose of making my acne worse.
I want to look at pictures of other trans guys to get hints and tips on how to pass better, but it's so triggering that I can barely stand it.
Is there anything I can do? What is causing me to not pass? Is it the haircut? Acne? Hips? Chubby cheeks? Posture?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi15.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa359%2Fcheres%2Fme%2F8102014noglasses.jpg&hash=5c7121c842ff5254ebf58701a19e149f06ea5bae)
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I would love any advice you guys have to offer. Be harsh. What can I do? I keep telling myself to just be patient but I feel like I haven't changed at all and I'm getting angry and sad.
The clothes aren't doing you any wonders for your shape. Wearing pants that hang a little looser on your legs will help as well as a looser shirt even if you're not binding. Get men's jeans and see what styles fit you best. Levi's and Lee's fit me really great around 5 months and made my hips look really streamlined, but I'm more boxy now so they don't work. It took me up until 8 or 9 months to see the body changes that I was really looking for honestly. I felt so angry because everyone was saying that the 6 month mark wasn't really that much but it feels like a whole like when you've gotten that far. As for work wear button up shirts with slacks and a men's cardigan. I lived on cardigans as a tutor and they work wonders for air conditioned settings. They hide your shape better and they are really stylish. Don't be tempted to wear a full on sweater-just don't. Wearing a messenger bag to work will make your shape look more masculine too.
I wear offshoots of this:
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with boat shoes, toe tones or really comfortable loafers. I went to payless and found some amazing boat shoes that I wish I had in every single color. They are legit the best for long days standing or walking.
The hairstyle can be modified: I think you should taper the edges down a little like so
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It'll give your face more of an edge, but be careful of not completely cutting off the sides because it won't look professional.
As for your voice, you just have to learn to stand up for yourself, assert that you are male and answer no student questions on the matter. Be confident, don't slouch and the more you think about your voice the more it'll make you dysphoric. It'll be embarrassing, but every night practice pitching your voice down in a way that sounds natural and not forced. Presenting as male is more important than voice though, let me tell you.
StirFried, you are Pre T? :o
I didn't watch the entire video's since my laptop can't run something like that for long. But, your voice, wow. Color me impressed! I think you should head over to the official bad ass thread since dude, you look great!
Wearing my other pair of eyeglasses, knowing that I need a haircut. Are these eyeglasses feminine?
I also need hairstyle suggestions (medium-long hair please).
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Quote from: Marcellow on August 18, 2014, 03:52:29 PM
Wearing my other pair of eyeglasses, knowing that I need a haircut. Are these eyeglasses feminine?
I also need hairstyle suggestions (medium-long hair please).
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The glasses are actually alright, I would say they look more unisex and they suit you really well so I wouldn't change them if you like them :) As for hairstyles! I have a few suggestions. (I'm a sucker for hair... Debating if I should become a hairdresser or an arts teacher xD)
These suggestions are based of the pictures I have seen of you before, so I'm mostly just taking in count your facial structure and such.
Medium length:
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These are fairly close to your current length and I think it could help with showing of your jawline since you have a nice one.
Here are some suggestions if you dare to go a bit shorter and such.
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Funique-hairstyles.us%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F06%2Fmens-hairstyles-2012.jpg&hash=3d18b3e64cf25194db40ee041e40a8bf1e43a8b0)
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I apologize about the picture flow xD I hope these help :)
OOoo Dalex, I'm liking all of those for him. Good suggestions. I wouldn't normally post because this doesn't add anything but yeah XD I especially like 2-4 but I really like all of them.
Quote from: Dalex on August 18, 2014, 04:25:24 PM
The glasses are actually alright, I would say they look more unisex and they suit you really well so I wouldn't change them if you like them :) As for hairstyles! I have a few suggestions. (I'm a sucker for hair... Debating if I should become a hairdresser or an arts teacher xD)
These suggestions are based of the pictures I have seen of you before, so I'm mostly just taking in count your facial structure and such.
Medium length:
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmens-haircuts.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F08%2Flayered-haircut.jpg&hash=488a5ecf7a15c5ad88862800cd9fcb053b2f7e21)
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These are fairly close to your current length and I think it could help with showing of your jawline since you have a nice one.
Here are some suggestions if you dare to go a bit shorter and such.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stylesvilla.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F08%2FMedium-hairstyles-for-men-2.jpg&hash=ca3f9fe8a741bc7a389633d851e3c0ac6958c6d8)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Funique-hairstyles.us%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F06%2Fmens-hairstyles-2012.jpg&hash=3d18b3e64cf25194db40ee041e40a8bf1e43a8b0)
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I apologize about the picture flow xD I hope these help :)
I don't dare to go too short since I'm afraid I'll look butch but I'll try it once my face masculinizes enough on T. I think I'll decide between the first two but I don't know how I'll ask the barber for it since my mother will be there with me despite being 22 years old and she's worried about what other people might think when they see my hair.
6 months guyssss. 6 months on T and i think the biggest change would be my voice so far and that i've put on roughly 30 lbs and grew 2 inches. so yeah im just kinda getting bigger all over.
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and ont eh topic of hair
i recently got it cut i hate it like it is now but the hairdresser assured me it would grow to what i wanted so =u=
some friends of mine say if i could manage to grow some facial hair i would prolly look a little like cris pratt
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which is cool, guy's adorable.
Yeah Marcellow hair on the longer side would definitely suit you.
This is unrelated but OMG you look exactly like one of my old students. Funnily enough I saw them today.
I'm around five weeks on T and it's been a while since I last got misgendered, but I'm still worried about my face/hair. What do you guys think?
(I also seem to be unable to take pictures looking serious, for whatever reason)
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I usually never wear tank tops but it was stupid hot when i took these pictures. my hair is a little shorter now tho but it basically looks the same. so yeah sometimes i pass but mostly I don't, it's probably like my face or cos i'm short i think but yeah do you guys have any advice?
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also like does my body pass? cos my sister said these jeans make me look taller but they're also skinny jeans and even though theyre guys jeans i worry it like makes me look more feminine
Wow, really late reply but I kinda forgot about my post on this thread. Thanks guys for the feedback. My legs always look like chicken legs in photos somehow, but in reality they look really defined and a bit thicker. Lol, I've got a few years of running and backyard soccer to thank for that but I still got noodle arms. :c
@StirfriedKraut , You pass 100% to me both in voice and appearance.
@Marcellow, When I look at you I see a guy with an androgynous gender presentation, and I think that with a haircut you'll look even better. Things are looking good though for you so far! I like your glasses as well.
@Beefxcake, Congrats on the growth, dude! I envy you as I probably won't grow any on T. :P Awesome jawline and the haircut looks good.
@Proton, Pass 100% IMHO! You look like a young guy to me, maybe 16ish.
@Alex666, Your face looks very masculine so you pass better already and even with an alternative haircut it doesn't sway my opinion that you pass to me. The skinny jeans look fine on you and I would assume you were male if I saw you in public. If you want a side tip, then I'd advise to avoid shirts that are oversized or waaay too big. The one in the picture is fine but if a person has big hips (I can't tell if you do from the pic) and a shirt is big yet hugs the hips it'll look odd if one is trying to pass. If you go shopping sometime soon keep that in mind (if ya want :D). I myself am really short and small so I know the pain of shopping and trying to find clothes that give a good fit.. it drives me crazy since I'm so into men's fashion but lotsa clothes just plain out are too big or don't fit. >_<' The boys' department is good to look in though for a person of my size.. I'm about 5'2'' in stature. How tall are you?
Thank you for the response! and yeah finding shirts that fit is the eternal struggle :P. I've lost a lot of weight too and a lot of my old shirts are way too big and even size small shirts are too big now. I need some new shirts for school and I've also been considering checking out the boys department but it's weird cos like i'm pretty skinny but like all the fat on my body decided to be stuck to my hips which suuuuuuccccckkksssss and makes shirts fit weird. and to answer your question i'm about 5'3 if we're being optimistic.
Quote from: alex666 on August 22, 2014, 09:35:08 AM
Thank you for the response! and yeah finding shirts that fit is the eternal struggle :P. I've lost a lot of weight too and a lot of my old shirts are way too big and even size small shirts are too big now. I need some new shirts for school and I've also been considering checking out the boys department but it's weird cos like i'm pretty skinny but like all the fat on my body decided to be stuck to my hips which suuuuuuccccckkksssss and makes shirts fit weird. and to answer your question i'm about 5'3 if we're being optimistic.
I know the struggle. In men's I'm like XXS/XS so it's usually not worth looking in that department for me as they don't have my size unless I order online and even then.. ;_;
Alex666,
You face passes very well to me, so I am not sure why you don't pass. Are you on T?
In terms of the skinny jeans, I know that guys wear them (especially younger guys), but I would suggest that if the average adult in the U.S. was unsure if a person was a boy or a girl, the skinny jeans would swing them towards female. The same thing with alternative haircuts (yours not so much though). That's just my opinion (as a 44 year old). Check out Proton's pic. Just a regular men's haircut is best, if your main goal is passing.
Proton, definite pass.
alex666 - i'd say you pass but I agree about the skinny jeans, they highlight hips (even if you don't really have them) and can hinder passing. You might want to stay away from them for now if passing is an issue...
xenguy - it's close for me, but from the pic i'd say pass. if your voice is still on the high end i'm guessing that's what it is. 2 months is nothing! I'm sure your voice will drop much more.
I just came back from going to the barber, this picture makes me feel like I'm missing a beard.
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alex666- I think you pass. maybe your voice gives you away? that's what always happens to me. :(
xenguy - you pass in that pic! Yeah, I would say it is the voice, not the face dude.
Marcellow - I think you are passing better and better, but you would look amazing with a beard.
so what do you guys think? I got "he'd" today by a stranger so....
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs28.postimg.org%2Fd9vm83o5p%2Fplaidkid_jpg.jpg&hash=9daccd40d6cda2eaee1f90046349ffa3f522bcfc) (http://postimage.org/)
capture screen (http://postimage.org/app.php)
and a few days ago I also passed as male until I spoke....
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs29.postimg.org%2F79j0evzev%2Fdoubltake.jpg&hash=cdd6c0ca561cfa3b4dd83dde5e33ef0ecca966ef) (http://postimage.org/)
how do you print screen (http://postimage.org/app.php)
ElioAyla: I think you pass in both pictures, although you seem more androgynous in the first one. In my opinion it might be the way the jacket is arranged, but I can't completely put my finger on why.
Quote from: ElioAyla on August 23, 2014, 07:30:58 PM
alex666- I think you pass. maybe your voice gives you away? that's what always happens to me. :(
xenguy - you pass in that pic! Yeah, I would say it is the voice, not the face dude.
Marcellow - I think you are passing better and better, but you would look amazing with a beard.
so what do you guys think? I got "he'd" today by a stranger so....
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capture screen (http://postimage.org/app.php)
and a few days ago I also passed as male until I spoke....
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs29.postimg.org%2F79j0evzev%2Fdoubltake.jpg&hash=cdd6c0ca561cfa3b4dd83dde5e33ef0ecca966ef) (http://postimage.org/)
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"No" from me for the first picture.
"Yes" for the second.
I think it's the hair in the first one.
thanks for your opinions, guys...what kind of hairstyle would you recommend for me to pass better? I don't want to cut it too short because I am aiming for dreads in the next year...but its kind of just hair right now. I just mess it up in the mornings.
Kreuzfidel, what about the hair in the first one looks feminine? Do you have any hair styles you would recommend?
I only ever did this, dreads and mohawks/liberty spikes so I am clueless as far as hairstyle.
ElioAyla, I would also say no pass on the first pic, yes pass on the second. The hair bangs look good in the front. I think it is the thickness/poofiness of the hair on the sides and length in the back that make it more feminine. I've seen cis guys with hair over their eyes like yours, but that masculine haircut is typically paired with short buzzed hair in the back to keep it looking manly. Overall though, lookin' good!
Quote from: ElioAyla on August 24, 2014, 12:48:54 AM
thanks for your opinions, guys...what kind of hairstyle would you recommend for me to pass better? I don't want to cut it too short because I am aiming for dreads in the next year...but its kind of just hair right now. I just mess it up in the mornings.
Kreuzfidel, what about the hair in the first one looks feminine? Do you have any hair styles you would recommend?
I only ever did this, dreads and mohawks/liberty spikes so I am clueless as far as hairstyle.
Maybe shorten the back a bit. I tried holding my fingertips over different parts of your hair in the pic to see what would work a bit better, and that's just my opinion, mate. I think dreads would certainly look good on you.
Lately I have been asked if I have started T by some friends, sadly I have not, but they always add after that there is something about me that has become more masculine. And, for some reason, I keep on getting hit on by gay guys and lesbians... So, I have no idea what I should take that as. It leaves me confused... So, I thought I would ask you guys.
(https://scontent-b-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/10339643_1451740361772378_8037942021344278023_n.jpg)
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Well, and then I was messing around with a wig since I might be using it for Halloween to get the look I want to go for, but I worry it might make me look more feminine
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And well, last but not least, I tried the mascara trick I have seen some of you guys do.
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And yes! Finally managed to afford new glasses xD
I apologize for all of the pictures... Shii... Didn't think that I had so many.
Quote from: alex666 on August 22, 2014, 07:05:09 AM
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I usually never wear tank tops but it was stupid hot when i took these pictures. my hair is a little shorter now tho but it basically looks the same. so yeah sometimes i pass but mostly I don't, it's probably like my face or cos i'm short i think but yeah do you guys have any advice?
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also like does my body pass? cos my sister said these jeans make me look taller but they're also skinny jeans and even though theyre guys jeans i worry it like makes me look more feminine
Are you serious? You look like a guy. Wouldn't have even thought anything otherwise.
Oh and those skinny jeans look good on you mate.
it's been busy here. i have a bunch of comments i want to write but that will have to work until after work, for now here's a pictire of me. i feel like i mostly don't pass in shorts but that in this picture i do? i haven't done a lot of full body shots in this thread and i may bot leave this one up. i look fat.
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Dalex, I think you pass in most of those, your glasses are a lot like mine but maybe a littel bit more square (nice!) I hope the word cute doesn't offend you, cuz you look like a cute guy. :icon_mrgreen: And the mascara trick looks boss too, I'm gonna have to try it. I wonder if it works in person or only in pics?
Christopher, I think you pass, but you look really far away on that mountain top, I cant see you! I dont think I ever pass in shorts, I wear long socks to cover my hairless legs (ruined the hair growth with Depo as a teen) but I still think you pull it pretty well.
So I got a hair cut today and suddenly I was passing all over the place. Maybe it had gotten too long, maybe it was too poofy. Maybe it was the shirt. I don't know. I just try not to talk in public so I don't ruin the gendering...I have a silly high pitched voice. :-X So do I pass?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs1.postimg.org%2Fz524ghh4f%2Fsha1.jpg&hash=f5b38b9b1abc7de80806374e75011ede77070e15) (http://postimg.org/image/6ff8jud4b/full/)
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and with glasses
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I'd say for the majority of everyone with glasses wondering if they pass, the bigger your glasses the more feminine you look. even if the frames are mens they make your head and face look smaller and more petite. so i think if you're going to wear glasses maybe opt for a narrower frame to make your jaw and lower face look bigger than it would otherwise.
just my thoughts.
like here's me in 3 different pairs that i have and wear.
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/5b65d9b0f5539f092f058bd9841a475e/tumblr_nau7si1qAD1s7ykcco1_500.jpg)
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/ea6f679a277ff0c4cdb5f8d38fe6688a/tumblr_nau7u5wVG71s7ykcco1_500.jpg)
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im usually in the thick plastic ones because they aren't as big as the first pair and the thinnest pair isn't my percription anymore :/
Quote from: BeefxCake on August 24, 2014, 07:50:10 PM
I'd say for the majority of everyone with glasses wondering if they pass, the bigger your glasses the more feminine you look. even if the frames are mens they make your head and face look smaller and more petite. so i think if you're going to wear glasses maybe opt for a narrower frame to make your jaw and lower face look bigger than it would otherwise.
just my thoughts.
I'll remember that next time I buy glasses, I just got these a few months back.
i just got my glasses too hahaha and they're men's frames, I didn't know about the square frame thing or the size thing. I like them anyway, so ->-bleeped-<- it, and it seems like I pass until they hear my stupid voice.
Oh well. Maybe I could learn to wear contact lenses, last time that didn't go very well, my eyes hated it, but things change...
Thanks for the tips though
Christopher - you're looking fine. Wonderful view!
ElioAyla - you remind me of a younger, skinnier version of a cis guy I used to work with, so pass to me.
I use my phone so how can I upload a pic from my phone 2 here?
Quote from: BeefxCake on August 24, 2014, 07:50:10 PM
I'd say for the majority of everyone with glasses wondering if they pass, the bigger your glasses the more feminine you look. even if the frames are mens they make your head and face look smaller and more petite. so i think if you're going to wear glasses maybe opt for a narrower frame to make your jaw and lower face look bigger than it would otherwise.
just my thoughts.
like here's me in 3 different pairs that i have and wear.
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/5b65d9b0f5539f092f058bd9841a475e/tumblr_nau7si1qAD1s7ykcco1_500.jpg)
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im usually in the thick plastic ones because they aren't as big as the first pair and the thinnest pair isn't my percription anymore :/
hey u can always keep the frames n have them just use the lenses that is in ur prescription..it will save u money as well as the pain of tryin 2 find masculinizing frames. .I wear glasses well used 2 now I wear contacts n ive done this n helped save money. .
Not 100% honest because I'm standing a bit on the side but whatever... I was told by my shrink whom I had never met prior of starting my transition that she tended to forget I was born female so I guess that's good at least though meh, I still feel my biggest problem are the hips sigh:
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I get this feeling that I look fine if I would just focus on the upper portion of my body but it goes to hell as soon as you move towards the hip area. I also look very broad and masculine on the back for some reason (been doing those push-ups), but this is not at all true on the front. WHY YOU DUMB BODY. Also not wearing a binder here but a sports bra because I ran out of clean ones.
(Also for those wondering what that thingie at the bottom is, it's the top of my cat's ear.)
Here's another I took yesterday when I was trying out new clothes:
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Ajtrans@
The bottom pair of frames i had for roughly 5 years and i just wanted something else. But i've reused frames in the past for sure. Does save money but it was time for a new pair for me xD
And even thoughthe bottom frames were ladies frames i think they do look quite masculine
Quote from: ElioAyla on August 24, 2014, 07:16:52 PM
Dalex, I think you pass in most of those, your glasses are a lot like mine but maybe a littel bit more square (nice!) I hope the word cute doesn't offend you, cuz you look like a cute guy. :icon_mrgreen: And the mascara trick looks boss too, I'm gonna have to try it. I wonder if it works in person or only in pics?
Christopher, I think you pass, but you look really far away on that mountain top, I cant see you! I dont think I ever pass in shorts, I wear long socks to cover my hairless legs (ruined the hair growth with Depo as a teen) but I still think you pull it pretty well.
So I got a hair cut today and suddenly I was passing all over the place. Maybe it had gotten too long, maybe it was too poofy. Maybe it was the shirt. I don't know. I just try not to talk in public so I don't ruin the gendering...I have a silly high pitched voice. :-X So do I pass?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs1.postimg.org%2Fz524ghh4f%2Fsha1.jpg&hash=f5b38b9b1abc7de80806374e75011ede77070e15) (http://postimg.org/image/6ff8jud4b/full/)
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and with glasses
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I shall not get offended for being called cute since the guy bit is added there xD I don't get offended, just usually never know what to say when someone does say I look cute, so I suppose thank you? x3 As for the mascara trick, I'm not sure if mine at least would look in person since I don't even have a peach fuzz and it had some smeared spots here and there... So, I can't say fully yes or no since I think it might all be about how its done.
As for pass or no, I would say pass, especially on the picture of you with your glasses. Not sure what it is, but I think so :) So yes, a definet pass and lookin' good :)
Quote from: ElioAyla on August 24, 2014, 07:16:52 PM
Dalex, I think you pass in most of those, your glasses are a lot like mine but maybe a littel bit more square (nice!) I hope the word cute doesn't offend you, cuz you look like a cute guy. :icon_mrgreen: And the mascara trick looks boss too, I'm gonna have to try it. I wonder if it works in person or only in pics?
Christopher, I think you pass, but you look really far away on that mountain top, I cant see you! I dont think I ever pass in shorts, I wear long socks to cover my hairless legs (ruined the hair growth with Depo as a teen) but I still think you pull it pretty well.
So I got a hair cut today and suddenly I was passing all over the place. Maybe it had gotten too long, maybe it was too poofy. Maybe it was the shirt. I don't know. I just try not to talk in public so I don't ruin the gendering...I have a silly high pitched voice. :-X So do I pass?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs1.postimg.org%2Fz524ghh4f%2Fsha1.jpg&hash=f5b38b9b1abc7de80806374e75011ede77070e15) (http://postimg.org/image/6ff8jud4b/full/)
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and with glasses
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It's the haircut.
Quote from: Ephemeral on August 27, 2014, 01:36:14 PM
Not 100% honest because I'm standing a bit on the side but whatever... I was told by my shrink whom I had never met prior of starting my transition that she tended to forget I was born female so I guess that's good at least though meh, I still feel my biggest problem are the hips sigh:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1314.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft567%2Fkamishi584%2FDSC_0109_zps20f2a7d6.jpg&hash=d33bc647f175d382257494b8cf2f03c8228e143c) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/kamishi584/media/DSC_0109_zps20f2a7d6.jpg.html)
I get this feeling that I look fine if I would just focus on the upper portion of my body but it goes to hell as soon as you move towards the hip area. I also look very broad and masculine on the back for some reason (been doing those push-ups), but this is not at all true on the front. WHY YOU DUMB BODY. Also not wearing a binder here but a sports bra because I ran out of clean ones.
(Also for those wondering what that thingie at the bottom is, it's the top of my cat's ear.)
Here's another I took yesterday when I was trying out new clothes:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1314.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft567%2Fkamishi584%2FDSC_0081_zpsebbjlqfx.jpg&hash=b7c880beab7fb76564cf0519f9fed1952d7c1a48) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/kamishi584/media/DSC_0081_zpsebbjlqfx.jpg.html)
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The first one is hard to tell since the bottom half of your body is cut out. However, from the pictures with the new clothes, I think it would help if you wore more baggy pants. I mean the style is totally fine, it's a popular androgynous look in Asia I believe, but generally I never wear skinny jeans due to the hip hugging nature. It might also get better if you try to develop the legs to be thicker, so they match the width of your hips. Hope that helps. But don't worry, you still pass, if I saw you on the street I'd think you were going for the K-pop star look.
Ephemeral,
I think the shirt coming down over your hips accentuates them. I really think any shirt that hugs one's hips, on the whole is a poor choice for transguys.
Plus, skinny jeans do accentuate the hips. There is simply no way around that one. Straight leg jeans drop down more in line with your hips (making more of a box shape), skinny jeans tighten around the hips and legs for the specific purpose of highlighting a person's curves. Honestly, I am always surprised to see guys who worry about passing wearing them.
Just my two cents.
I was hoping to lose more weight on my legs so skinny looks more like thin is it called? Not straight but the one in between skinny and straigh.because of fat changes I'm quickly growing out though so they begin to look really bad because they don't fit anymore. Idk. First picture I'm hiding my hips on purpose. And yes I'm aware of the shirt issue but it looks retarded with skinny jeans unfortunately and I do like the Asian style. Oh well just losing more I guess.
not sure how to upload images lol so here's an imgur link http://imgur.com/a/sOANv
also i am pre-T. mostly wondering how i'll do on testosterone
Quote from: captainbathtub on September 01, 2014, 07:27:14 PM
not sure how to upload images lol so here's an imgur link http://imgur.com/a/sOANv
also i am pre-T. mostly wondering how i'll do on testosterone
Can't tell you for 100 percent, but your facial and body structure look like T will do you well, friend. You pass well already, as well.
Cap'n Bathtub, you look pretty masculine already. T might square your jaw and strengthen your brow. I second Devention, "T will do you well."
thanks guys! can't wait to start HRT
Quote from: captainbathtub on September 01, 2014, 07:27:14 PM
not sure how to upload images lol so here's an imgur link http://imgur.com/a/sOANv
also i am pre-T. mostly wondering how i'll do on testosterone
I also think you will do quite well on T! You have a masculine facial structure, nose and brows. I think you pass already and T will def "do you well" in my opinion.
Quote from: captainbathtub on September 01, 2014, 07:27:14 PM
not sure how to upload images lol so here's an imgur link http://imgur.com/a/sOANv
also i am pre-T. mostly wondering how i'll do on testosterone
You look like a guy to me, especially without the hat. With the hat you look a little younger, but without the hat you remind me a lot of Kevin from Supernatural. With the hat on I could see someone POSSIBLY misgendering you (very small possibility), but without the hat I think nobody would even bat an eye. To me you look like you've already been on T for at least a few months, T will do great things for you man.
Also the mural on your wall is awesome
haha, i frickin love that mural. good to know i pass a little better without the hat and i never would have thought as myself as looking like kevin tran but now i can kind of see it lol ;D
After Krav Maga.. I had my first session yesterday.
Maleth- your facial structure is pretty masculine, but I might try getting my hair cut a little shorter on the sides...it would make it look a little less puffy and more masculine. Also, that tank top accentuates your hips and makes them look kinda womanly, but on the other hand, your biceps look awesome. If I saw you in the street you'd register as male.
Hey, Maleth! You are a great looking guy. Very masculine jaw line. From what I can see (wish you were looking at camera), you pass.
Maleth - I think you look like a dude, but yeah, look at the camera!!! And I agree about the poofy hair, it really helps to pass when you get those sides trimmed.
I cannot wait to start T. Though now that I wear a binder everyday, and I've been projecting my voice from my voicebox instead of my throat, I have been passing a lot, and that makes me glad. I think my haircut made a big difference, dying it hasn't seemed to make any difference. I feel like my face is longer, and more masculine somehow just from the haircut.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs16.postimg.org%2Fi8x8igd79%2Fbro.jpg&hash=780c30909d6c6b8f489f5b015d70b213d924a0d7) (http://postimage.org/)
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So if I pierced my septum, do you think I would pass better or worse? Your honest opinion please. I would start with a 14 gauge at least, no little rings or anything hahaha.
Elio, I've always found septum piercings fairly gender neutral. If you want it, I say go for it.
Quote from: ElioAyla on September 05, 2014, 12:51:39 AM
Maleth - I think you look like a dude, but yeah, look at the camera!!! And I agree about the poofy hair, it really helps to pass when you get those sides trimmed.
I cannot wait to start T. Though now that I wear a binder everyday, and I've been projecting my voice from my voicebox instead of my throat, I have been passing a lot, and that makes me glad. I think my haircut made a big difference, dying it hasn't seemed to make any difference. I feel like my face is longer, and more masculine somehow just from the haircut.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs16.postimg.org%2Fi8x8igd79%2Fbro.jpg&hash=780c30909d6c6b8f489f5b015d70b213d924a0d7) (http://postimage.org/)
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So if I pierced my septum, do you think I would pass better or worse? Your honest opinion please. I would start with a 14 gauge at least, no little rings or anything hahaha.
I think a septum piercing would make you look more androgynous and less male than you currently look.
I tend to be one who subscribes to the idea of using a traditionally masculine male presentation unless you already pass 100% of the time (assuming your goal is to be read as male). All "cues" should be "male cues" if you want to be read as male. Androgynous and feminine cues will decrease your chances of being gendered as male. Just my opinion/experience.
3 and a half months on T
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I like the little bit of facial hair I have so far
Thanks guys for the feedback. I cut it as short as I could without pissing off my family since they're touchy about my hair. I also slipped that tank top when I got home to take the picture, but yeah thanks for the tips :) I'll try to cut the sides shorter next time.
Elio, you look all guy to me with an alternative style. It's cool, very unique. I would think that septum piercing wouldnt harm your passability but I personally see liprings as a more feminine thing especially if combined with a septum one. But a septum ring seems very masculine to me.
Ryan, bro you are looking GREAT! Love that facial hair, it suits you. Head on over the badass thread, I think if someone mistook you for a women they were slightly out of it or a bit blind.
Quote from: Ryan55 on September 05, 2014, 07:14:38 PM
3 and a half months on T
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I like the little bit of facial hair I have so far
Oh boy, T is doing wonders for you. Enough to make me question my sexuality a bit. ;)
Quote from: Ryan55 on September 05, 2014, 07:14:38 PM
3 and a half months on T
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I like the little bit of facial hair I have so far
Little bit?! Dude I'm jelly. That's wayy badass for 3 1/2 months. You look awesome, that facial hair is dope.
thanks guys, I appreciate it
@Ryan55, youre looking good man. Im yet to start T, but hoping i will be able to by the end of the year, trans services in my area have such a long waiting time for appointments/ in between appointments. But if it works half as well for me as it does you, il be buzzing.
This is me at the moment, before starting T or before even being out to people i know. Do you think T will work well for me?
Finding it hard to work out how to post picture so here is a link to my picture http://imgur.com/vcR7Izl
Jack :)
Quote from: JJones on September 09, 2014, 10:45:10 AM
@Ryan55, youre looking good man. Im yet to start T, but hoping i will be able to by the end of the year, trans services in my area have such a long waiting time for appointments/ in between appointments. But if it works half as well for me as it does you, il be buzzing.
This is me at the moment, before starting T or before even being out to people i know. Do you think T will work well for me?
Finding it hard to work out how to post picture so here is a link to my picture http://imgur.com/vcR7Izl
Jack :)
Dude, you are pre T? Holy fudge. I say pass.
I would have gendered you as male, somewhere in the later teens early twenties.
If that's you pre T, you are going to be just as lucky as Ryan.
Good luck with your appointments and such, I know how much of a pain it can be to wait for everything. How things are set up where I live, I will at least have to wait three more months before I get T and I have been waiting a while already.
Ryan, Jack, you guys look amazing!
I can't believe you're pre-t, Jack - wow!
I'll never be able to pass that well :'( Not without t anyway.
wow, cheers guys, people generally do think im male when im out which is nice, however its not for long cos i have huge breasts :( Just no hiding some things and i hate it. Cant wait for the day they are no longer there. Wow, id be over the moon if T works as well for me as it does Ryan.
Yea services' up in the north of England are very slow and very much in over demand. Its rubbish
Quote from: Dalex on September 09, 2014, 10:52:39 AM
Dude, you are pre T? Holy fudge. I say pass.
I would have gendered you as male, somewhere in the later teens early twenties.
If that's you pre T, you are going to be just as lucky as Ryan.
Good luck with your appointments and such, I know how much of a pain it can be to wait for everything. How things are set up where I live, I will at least have to wait three more months before I get T and I have been waiting a while already.
Also cheers for the age guess, ha, i wish i was still late teens, im 26 now though.
Ummm, ok, here I go. I'm pre-everything and I don't pass really but I thought I'd show my face anyway ;D.
Edit: I decided to take the pics down, sorry about that. I'm just too self-conscious and dysphoric to handle this well...
Adrian are think there are definitely some masculine/male cues with you. I like the straight hair the best, but the curly is ok too. What I am trying to determine is if the first picture is a different pair of glasses than the bottom two. For some reason on the bottom two pics they seem to really make your face more masculine, but not the first picture. So, I think either full on curly hair (pic #2)or straight hair (#3). The first picture seems like your hair is in between those styles and reads as more feminine, somehow. However, you are also smiling which our unconscious tends to read more as female.
Brett, thank you for your feedback :) It's the same glasses in all of the pics. I know what you mean though - I too think I look more feminine in the first pic. It probably is the smile. Not badass enough >:D
I'm not sure yet where I'm going with my hair. I had it shorter on top and a bit longer in the back when I was not trying to go for a masculine look (it was a lot cooler than it sounds now, not a mullet! :D). Now I'm slowly going shorter on the sides and back, but longer on top. I have a very cool hairdresser, we'll eventually figure something out together I think.
I won't be on t anytime soon (if ever), so yeah, I just have to deal with being me and looking the way I do. Sigh...
Yea i have to agree with Brett, first picture is more feminine than the other two, Im not quite sure if its the smile, or the stance in the picture.
Out of the other two, the picture with the straight hair definitely looks more masculine, so maybe go with a short straight style for your next cut bro.
Look pretty feminine in all of them. Reminds of Swedish politican Gudrun Schyman: https://www.google.se/search?q=gudrun+schyman&rlz=1C1PRFE_enSE564SE564&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=979&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=PT0QVJiwKujOygP7nYD4DQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ
I would recommend getting a different cut and changing your glasses. The photo where you looked the most like a guy was in the last one, likely due to the more serious demeanor in it. Straight hair helps too, mostly because I think your hairstyle in the last picture is more male-looking than the other two. You could probably pass in the first haircut when you've been on T for a while but atm no.
Quote from: Ephemeral on September 10, 2014, 07:00:50 AM
Reminds of Swedish politican Gudrun Schyman
Thanks for the feedback, but I honestly didn't need to hear that comparison :'(
I don't see the comparison mate, apart from you both wear glasses.
Honestly bro, the one with straight hair is the way to go....
Thank you Jack. Off to get a haircut....::)
I don't see the comparison too much either. Anyway, Adrian, I agree that the first pic you had up looked more feminine. It was possibly the hair, but honestly what really read the wrong gender to me was the jacket. It tucks in a bit and the lines on it only accentuate that and gives the impression of more female body lines whether they're actually there or not. On the contrary I thought your lower half passed (though in all fairness I didn't try blocking out the jacket part, just the entire upper half).
I too thought you looked good both with the curly and the straight hairstyles -- I don't know if you had product on in either pic or if it were just wet but that might help as well.
Thanks Noah - the more "curly" was just letting it dry in the sun, no product for either style (I have too many allergies for that). I'll settle for the straight hair for the time being, making the sides shorter.
I mean I know I don't pass like this, but I really don't want to make things worse by emphasizing the wrong cues. I'll examine the hoodie/jacket critically :D.
Yea im with Noah. I think the hoody does you no favors in the first picture, i think without that you'd pass a lot easier dude.
Is it artificial things or fragrances in hair products that you're allergic to? Just out of curiosity. I know there's some all natural products (even for men, though I know there's arguments that they're not any different between the sexes at the same time it can be a little esteem boost regardless). Just wondering if there's something that might work for you because I think using product (if possible) could help.
Though, either way, yea cleaning up the back and sides and having it longer on top will help a lot. While not inherently a female thing, whispy hair on the sides could give the wrong cue to people.
As far as the jacket goes, a couple things you could try such as not zipping them up all the way (unless bitterly cold, in which case consider a good scarf either first or in addition to) would probably help you out. If there's lines on them, whether different colors or sewn like that one, try more horizontal lines or if they are in a v-pattern then something more angular. They're illusional tricks to broaden or give the impression of a more v-shape to the body. You're a thin guy so tricks like that could well help people lean more toward masculine than feminine when looking at you.
Also, avoid shirts or jackets that seem to tuck in at the waist (in the middle). That's a general rule of thumb for most FTMs.
Just some things to play with and see if they work for you.
Thanks guys! The hoodie is a remnant from when I still succumbed to the illusion I was "androgynous" at most. I'm slowly replacing items in my wardrobe now. More often than not with plain black things, but I'll experiment with other stuff. I'm also determined to put on weight. I've never been big, but I lost more weight over the last two years because of food intolerances. Getting better, so I'm hoping to be able to start working out again soon.
I have issues with fragrances in general, my nose shuts and eyes start watering immediately. I suspect a mild form of multiple chemical sensitivity, although things have improved a lot. But when I use commercial hair products, I also get really bad skin. I make my own pomade with beeswax and Shea butter, but it doesn't work too well.
Again, thanks guys, I really appreciate your help.
Quote from: adrian on September 10, 2014, 07:32:45 AM
Thanks for the feedback, but I honestly didn't need to hear that comparison :'(
Well, I didn't mean it as a negative thing. Just that I wanted to see how your appearances, esp. in the first two pictures, look like her and to observe that she is read as female even though she may otherwise give off a lot of male cues. (Also, she's badass so don't take it as a bad thing.)
Quote from: JJones on September 09, 2014, 10:45:10 AM
@Ryan55, youre looking good man. Im yet to start T, but hoping i will be able to by the end of the year, trans services in my area have such a long waiting time for appointments/ in between appointments. But if it works half as well for me as it does you, il be buzzing.
This is me at the moment, before starting T or before even being out to people i know. Do you think T will work well for me?
Finding it hard to work out how to post picture so here is a link to my picture http://imgur.com/vcR7Izl
Jack :)
you definitely need not worry.
Quote from: stephaniec on September 11, 2014, 09:33:30 PM
you definitely need not worry.
Thanks Stephanie, its nice to have some feedback on here as i cant get it from people i know as im not out yet
Jack.
Guys.. (And girls.. and everyone in between) I feel so douche doing this but is really like to post my pic on here but I've no idea how.. I tried copy and paste and attachments idk.. I already got over 14 posts so help? ???
Quote from: JHeron on September 13, 2014, 05:35:15 PM
Guys.. (And girls.. and everyone in between) I feel so douche doing this but is really like to post my pic on here but I've no idea how.. I tried copy and paste and attachments idk.. I already got over 14 posts so help? ???
I think the easiest way is to just use a hosting site and then post a link here :)
Quote from: JHeron on September 13, 2014, 05:35:15 PM
Guys.. (And girls.. and everyone in between) I feel so douche doing this but is really like to post my pic on here but I've no idea how.. I tried copy and paste and attachments idk.. I already got over 14 posts so help? ???
Yea mate, i really couldnt work it out either. So much easier posting a link to a different site
It is in fact the only way to do it. Upload your pic to another hosting site and then put the URL for the pic between the IMG tags.
[IMG]http://full-image-url.jpg[/IMG]
Still pre - t , but I'm gonna be without t for a loooong time so any passing tips will really be appreciated ;-;
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I was thinking of getting this hair cut - I love it but I don't know if it'd be too short and make me look more feminine though, thoughts?
( Note: It's Jay Weinberg *drools* )
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JHeron, your link doesn't work.
Matthew, I think the current haircut you have is a good choice for you and wouldn't mess with it (for passing purposes, anyway). I would read you as a teenage boy.
Well I figured out how to do profile pic.. Can you guys see it enough to tell? I apologize for the lack of happiness but I find the pictures I try to smile in just end up looking strange ha
So I got my first binder an hour ago...does it help or can you still see my chest? D:
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Can't really tell, the black all sort of blends in man sorry :\
JHeron damn boy, you handsome :P hehe, lookin' great!
Marcellow from what I see in the pic you look naturally flat, kickass shirt ;D Lookin' great as always, man
-Matt
Thanks Matt that means a lot bro Im scared to even contemplate T cause I'm deathly afraid of losing my hair and making an ugly dude honestly.. Idk if that's stupid but it's real for me I don't wanna trade being an ok looking female to be a hideous guy sigh (Apologize for sounding so into aesthetics.. Sigh Wilde would be proud lol) you guys think T could do good things for me?
JHeron all t would do pretty much is emphasise your more masculine features, lower your voice and make you hairier :P
If that's what you want do it, but not everyone chooses to medically transition. You look awesome dude, t isn't gonna make you ugly :)
And there's tons of cool guys without hair, Chris Kael, Dave Draiman ect.
-Matt ;D
Quote from: Matthew on September 15, 2014, 07:15:24 PM
JHeron damn boy, you handsome :P hehe, lookin' great!
Marcellow from what I see in the pic you look naturally flat, kickass shirt ;D Lookin' great as always, man
-Matt
Thanks!^^ Been waiting to get my binder to put that on.
Now I just need a masculine haircut and I'll be in business.
Quote from: JHeron on September 15, 2014, 07:26:54 PM
Thanks Matt that means a lot bro Im scared to even contemplate T cause I'm deathly afraid of losing my hair and making an ugly dude honestly.. Idk if that's stupid but it's real for me I don't wanna trade being an ok looking female to be a hideous guy sigh (Apologize for sounding so into aesthetics.. Sigh Wilde would be proud lol) you guys think T could do good things for me?
It definitely will, you look like a young boy.
I also have the fears of losing my beautiful thick hair ;3;
Yeah I usually get assumed to be 16 on a good day 18 haha far as hairstyle man it can honestly say if you go to a good salon and talk to a stylist tell me what kind of cut you want(long or short and masculine) they should hook you up Just make sure you emphasize a masculine cut lol I once forgot and looks like a 20s bob girl -_-
Quote from: JHeron on September 15, 2014, 07:26:54 PM
Thanks Matt that means a lot bro Im scared to even contemplate T cause I'm deathly afraid of losing my hair and making an ugly dude honestly.. Idk if that's stupid but it's real for me I don't wanna trade being an ok looking female to be a hideous guy sigh (Apologize for sounding so into aesthetics.. Sigh Wilde would be proud lol) you guys think T could do good things for me?
Hey, you look awesome! I'm sure you're going to be a super handsome guy on t!
I can relate to the worry about losing hair though. I'd most definitely go bald, there isn't a guy in my family with full hair (although to be honest, I only know about my dad and granddads, no other bio-guys in the family). On the other hand I find a lot of bald guys very attractive.
You guys look awesome. Im so jealous, i want a binder, but have such a big chest dont know if its even worth trying.
Also, i dont think you'd be losing any hair until you were a lot older. By which point it will just be like all other guys, and also it doesnt mean 100% youre going to lose your hair. If you wanna try it man i think it would do good things for you.
J
Quote from: JJones on September 16, 2014, 11:31:31 AM
You guys look awesome. Im so jealous, i want a binder, but have such a big chest dont know if its even worth trying.
Also, i dont think you'd be losing any hair until you were a lot older. By which point it will just be like all other guys, and also it doesnt mean 100% youre going to lose your hair. If you wanna try it man i think it would do good things for you.
J
Well a binder won't make a chest completely flat, men have pecs so it's slightly elevated. I have a pretty big chest and it's binding fine.
I personally am scared it'll make my chest hang lower than it is now which i don't want because I'm dead set on peri so I'm waiting to transition also it seems painful. I'd rather get a breast reduction and live with that until I can transition.
I was wanting to let my hair grow out again since it seems when it was longer I got gendered more as he, but now I just get hit on by a lot of lesbians... Nothing wrong with lesbians it just bruises my ego a bit and gives me a dysphoria since well, they like girls. But right now its at a length that I think makes me look more feminine so I thought I would ask if you guys think it might help if I go for a haircut to style it more masculine or just let it continue to grow?
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Meh... I have such an awkward smile on pictures xD
But, here is a picture of me with longer hair, everyone assumed I was like a sixteen year old boy, but I at least got more gendered as he on the streets.
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Quote from: Marcellow on September 16, 2014, 11:39:11 AM
Well a binder won't make a chest completely flat, men have pecs so it's slightly elevated. I have a pretty big chest and it's binding fine.
What binder did you get?
Also Dalex, i think you pass both ways, cant quite put my finger on it, but you do seem slightly more feminine with shorter hair, but if i saw you in the streets i wouldn't question your gender, you'd pass for a he in my book.
Quote from: JJones on September 16, 2014, 03:49:08 PM
What binder did you get?
Also Dalex, i think you pass both ways, cant quite put my finger on it, but you do seem slightly more feminine with shorter hair, but if i saw you in the streets i wouldn't question your gender, you'd pass for a he in my book.
I got the Underworks tri-top binder form Big Brother Binder Program. Can be super low cost or cost you nothing depending on how strapped for cash you are.
Quote from: Marcellow on September 16, 2014, 04:31:35 PM
I got the Underworks tri-top binder form Big Brother Binder Program. Can be super low cost or cost you nothing depending on how strapped for cash you are.
Awesome. Cheers for this heads up. :)
Quote from: Ephemeral on September 01, 2014, 11:12:19 AM
I was hoping to lose more weight on my legs so skinny looks more like thin is it called? Not straight but the one in between skinny and straigh.because of fat changes I'm quickly growing out though so they begin to look really bad because they don't fit anymore. Idk. First picture I'm hiding my hips on purpose. And yes I'm aware of the shirt issue but it looks retarded with skinny jeans unfortunately and I do like the Asian style. Oh well just losing more I guess.
Reading thru this post right now, so I don't know if anyone has said it yet...but slim. I think that's the type of jeans you're talking about. Not skinny, not straight. Slim. I have some pairs like that and straight.
I prefer the slim because my feet are on the smaller side so anything straight or boot-cut usually ends up getting stepped on at the heel and I am too old for ratty jeans. Slim is perfect in preventing that cos it's wide enough to accommodate for larger thighs but tapers enough to hug the ankles but not nearly as tight as skinny.
@Ephemeral: pass, just work on finding a looser cut jean like mentioned.
@captainbathtub: pass, you look young but read as male to me, albeit 14-16 years old.
@Ryan55: total pass. just wait a little longer and your facial hair is gonna blow up. looking great!
@JJones: Pass. this is a perfect example of finding the right haircut for your face. even pre-t you pass visually 100%. as for binding, you'd be surprised how much more stocky it can make larger chested guys appear.
@Matthew: the haircut could help, you kinda pass in the face but without a full body shot I wouldn't really be able to say.
@JHeron: I would say more androgynous than pass. sorry :(
@Dalex: yeah you pass well with longer hair. but I wouldn't say it is the shorter hair that hinders you passing just your cheeks. which, if you plan on going on t, should help alleviate that.
Thanks JJones and dylantexas90. Yeah, I plan on going on T but I still have at least two or three months of waiting before I will be able to start so trying my best with what I have :) Again, thanks guys.
Long time since i posted here, i hope i still pass..i'm not on T yet as always
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jossef, definitely pass as a guy, and a stylish one at that. ;D
Jossef, if someone called you "she" in front of me, I'd think they were nuts. You look all guy. I am a bit jealous. By the way, you look awesome! You got some style, bro!
jossef, good to see you bro. you look great as always! Love your style man, I want that hat. And I've been wanting to wear some jeans like that, especially since I've been riding my bike a lot lately. I really hope you can find access to T, but not because I think you need it to pass. Keep your head up homie, we're all rooting for you here.
Got some pants that fit right, for once. Slim straights are my bffs but my gut is too big, so I hardly ever find them in my size x.x
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Stupid lighting and the WORST POSSIBLE spot for a selfie mirror (it's the only full length one in the house).
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ok so I had to shave what little facial hair I had cause I interviewed and then got this new job in accounting (they say clean shaven for these types of things is best). So I feel like I'm lacking as passing without the facial hair now. Also 4 months on T (holy ->-bleeped-<- cant believe it).
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dressed up for the new job
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I fail at comb overs
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Ryan...you definitely pass to my eyes. Without the facial hair also.
thanks marcellow, I guess I feel naked without my facial hair (even if it was a little bit). I miss my stache lol
Hey guys. Just wanted to see how I'm doing so far :D
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circa 2009
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currently
Anyone got any good tips to look your age (not to be interpreted as a school kid)?
Quote from: jerr on September 26, 2014, 05:45:27 PM
Hey guys. Just wanted to see how I'm doing so far :D
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circa 2009
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currently
Anyone got any good tips to look your age (not to be interpreted as a school kid)?
it's all in the hair! i think that you pass nicely. your hair in your avatar helps you pass more than the longer imo. also i think you're slightly cursed with asian genes.... my girlfriend is viet and looks a bit younger too.
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six weeks on T and I feel like my face is starting to become a little more masculine
Quote from: kdbrrw on September 26, 2014, 09:00:13 PM
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six weeks on T and I feel like my face is starting to become a little more masculine
I see slight changes for sure but it's still too soon. You'll get there. ;)
Quote from: kdbrrw on September 26, 2014, 09:00:13 PM
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six weeks on T and I feel like my face is starting to become a little more masculine
I say on the fence now but considering your features your gonna be pretty handsome once the dramatic changes happen bro congrats
Quote from: kdbrrw on September 26, 2014, 09:00:13 PM
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six weeks on T and I feel like my face is starting to become a little more masculine
Yes, I agree with you. I see changes already. Looking good!
I posted here just a little while ago but i finallllllly got my hair cut short like I want it. I've never had my hair this short before and idk if I pass? and i'm concerned if I look my age but I'm pre everything so yeah thats how it goes
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also sorry my laptop camera is a potato
alex666 - Total pass. You definitely look all male
kdbrrw - you pass in this picture ;D I do see changes
jerr- you also pass. You look very young but male
ryan- Dude, you pass. And congratulations on the job
Quote from: alex666 on September 27, 2014, 12:45:36 PM
I posted here just a little while ago but i finallllllly got my hair cut short like I want it. I've never had my hair this short before and idk if I pass? and i'm concerned if I look my age but I'm pre everything so yeah thats how it goes
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also sorry my laptop camera is a potato
I think you pass really well for pre-t. YOur face does pass better for the front then the side though. I can't pinpoint what it is. Your haircut really suites you.
yes
I'm pre-everything and just wondering if I pass. Also, if I do about how old do I look?
My last therapist told me that I passed with everyone in the office because when he would ask if I was out in the waiting room (I had asked him just to use my female birth name), the receptionist and other counselors would poke their heads out to look for me then tell him "Nope, I don't see her. There's only a young man out there". Apparently a few times he thought I was running late for my appointment only to go out into the waiting room himself and see me sitting there. That's when he caught on that everyone was seeing me as male.
I might remove these eventually just so I don't have to worry about anyone stumbling across them.
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Contra, based off those pictures, I'd say pass. As for age, I'd say late teens or early twenties.
Quote from: Contravene on September 29, 2014, 12:14:06 AM
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You look very masculine to me. I'd guess early twenties.
how long has it been since i last showed my face? anyway i put on quite an amount of weight since then, hope it's not obvious
i know this is useless, me posting in do i pass topic when i have no intention of passing in near future. yet it feels good to know what people see when they look at me every once in a while. so guys, what do you think?
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(i'm not very good at judging looks but you guys look really good out there)
Contra, you look male to me, but hats can be very deceiving, making people look male when otherwise they may look clearly female. You might want to post a picture without the hat for people to say how you look on a regular basis.
YB, you always look like a male to me in your pics, and you do here again.
[Tentatively makes first post.]
http://thisismyhideoutnow.tumblr.com/post/98848219888
No T for me, sadly. Just doing my best to look slightly older than a 16 yr old boy (I'm 23).
Quote from: remington on September 30, 2014, 07:42:39 PM
[Tentatively makes first post.]
http://thisismyhideoutnow.tumblr.com/post/98848219888
No T for me, sadly. Just doing my best to look slightly older than a 16 yr old boy (I'm 23).
The good news: you pass to me!
The bad news: yes, you do look like a 16 year old boy! Don't sweat it. At some point you will be glad you look younger than your age!
Remington, you look awesome (totally pass to me!). I also think you could pass as 17 ;) Just kidding, but yes, you look younger than 23.
I felt like I looked really good today. The lady at the grocery store spent a good 30 seconds looking at my ID and back at me before letting me buy some wine, which made me feel like I was kinda maybe passing. Couldn't get a picture that looked as good as I felt, but...
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Quote from: Brett on September 29, 2014, 09:13:26 PM
Contra, you look male to me, but hats can be very deceiving, making people look male when otherwise they may look clearly female. You might want to post a picture without the hat for people to say how you look on a regular basis.
YB, you always look like a male to me in your pics, and you do here again.
ooooh thanx man! that made my day really. now that's the kind of boost i need every now and then
contra- you could go either way for me. I wouldn't question you being a guy though
remington- you look very young but you definitely pass
pianoforte- you pass more here than in previous pictures. looking good
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My sister says there's nothing particularly feminine about my face and I shouldn't be so self conscious but I'm still terrified I'll only ever pass as a 12 year old. Fairly gifted in the bicep department though lol.
So, I've been feeling really blah and like I don't pass at all. The last couple days have been a bit better and I'm trying to get past my insecurity so here's a couple pictures...
hmm... that's not going to work.
Kieran, I'm getting male from your face, but it can be kinda hard to tell when people pull faces what they'd be read as if they looked like they normally would (if that makes sense).
trying this again
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I feel like I don't pass so well in the picture with the hat. The hat was sort of a treat to myself. I really liked it and it will be great for keeping rain off my glasses but it doesn't look so great in that picture :/
You totally pass dude 8) Hat or not
Quote from: devention on October 04, 2014, 12:12:23 AM
Kieran, I'm getting male from your face, but it can be kinda hard to tell when people pull faces what they'd be read as if they looked like they normally would (if that makes sense).
Kieren, I agree with devention. Accuracy is thrown out the window when people make faces. Hats also impact an accurate assessment as it camouflages the shape of the head, hairline, etc. Post another picture? I will say that you don't look especially young to me and the thick eyebrows are useful.
christopher, I think your face is really "shaping up well". Definitely more masculine in the first picture than past pictures. I would say a pass. I agree with you on the second picture. The hat somehow takes away from you passing. But, who cares if it is for a purpose (well, you know what I mean. If you need it, you need it)?
I like the hat Chris I would wear it
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Pre op, but been on T for about a week now. I'm told iPads pretty decently.
Quote from: EvanAidan on October 06, 2014, 09:21:18 AMPre op, but been on T for about a week now. I'm told iPads pretty decently.
Had to smile about the autocorrect (I think) but you pass to me :)
I'm so self conscious I have trouble not making faces when taking pictures lol.
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I need a haircut. Or a hair growth not sure which would help more.
Also EvanAidan, you're looking great dude! Definately pass for me.
2 days before my endo appointment. I still hate my chin wrinkles, I hope it minimizes when my braces get taken off next August. :/
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Quote from: jerr on September 26, 2014, 05:45:27 PM
Hey guys. Just wanted to see how I'm doing so far :D
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circa 2009
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currently
Anyone got any good tips to look your age (not to be interpreted as a school kid)?
Definitely think your hairstyle now suits you much better and to my eyes you pass well. Considering how some guys look even in uni I would say that you could look in the 19-21 age bracket when a lot of guys still might not have a lot of facial hair and such.
Quote from: JHeron on September 15, 2014, 06:16:26 PM
Well I figured out how to do profile pic.. Can you guys see it enough to tell? I apologize for the lack of happiness but I find the pictures I try to smile in just end up looking strange ha
Damn, dude! I don't often get man crushes but I have to say not only do you pass but have you considered a career in male modeling? :laugh: Seriously though you look great :)
Quote from: Ryan55 on October 05, 2014, 04:43:31 PM
I like the hat Chris I would wear it
Thanks Ryan
Kieren and EvanAidan you both pass to me
Marcellow I wouldn't have even noticed your "chin wrinkles" until you said something
Christopher & Kieran thanks guys. :)
Oh & Kieran your looking awesome too man.
Quote from: christopher on October 06, 2014, 10:06:07 PM
Thanks Ryan
Kieren and EvanAidan you both pass to me
Marcellow I wouldn't have even noticed your "chin wrinkles" until you said something
Sorry, I'm self conscious about them but I noticed they're less prominent before I had braces put in. :'(
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=153pwdf&s=8#.VDQQ0dq9KK0
I'm almost certain I couldn't pass to save my life. Any suggestions?
Quote from: Epicene on October 07, 2014, 11:14:29 AM
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=153pwdf&s=8#.VDQQ0dq9KK0
I'm almost certain I couldn't pass to save my life. Any suggestions?
Welcome to Susan's. I would recommend getting a haircut at a barber shop, you'd be surprised how much of a difference it can make.
Epicene. Ignoring the haircut and clothes, I'd actually say you pass very well. Different cut and men's clothes would probably do a lot for you.
(When I was scrolling down on my phone I was like "what the heck is he talking about?" Then I saw the clothes and really noticed the haircut. I think you could pass really well bro!)
Epicene, I'm with the others. A haircut and some different clothes and I think you'd pass really well from what I can see.
Agreed, Epicene. You have a masculine jawline.
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Epicene, I totally agree with the others! A different haircut and male clothing would help, but your face reads very male to me!
Dylan, you look awesome.
Man, I should stay out of this thread for a while... it reminds me how female my face looks :'(
Quote from: kieranDS on October 06, 2014, 07:51:44 PM
I'm so self conscious I have trouble not making faces when taking pictures lol.
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I need a haircut. Or a hair growth not sure which would help more.
Also EvanAidan, you're looking great dude! Definately pass for me.
I would say pass dude! I don't think you actually need to worry about your hair at all. You actually remind me of a guy I used to go to school with when I was living in California.
Quote from: Marcellow on October 06, 2014, 08:15:56 PM
2 days before my endo appointment. I still hate my chin wrinkles, I hope it minimizes when my braces get taken off next August. :/
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Marcello! Looking good :)
Quote from: dylanjakoby on October 07, 2014, 09:53:31 PM
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Now, just head back just a bit, click on the official bad ass thread and you should be good! :P What I mean, Dylan you shouldn't have to worry at all, you look great :)
I just got my hair cut enough where I felt I could post here...So here you go.
What can I do to help my appearance and such?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xrkzbwajrv4rfop/Zack.jpg?dl=0
Having problems inserting the image. So sorry for the link XD.
Might as well try this one. I don't seem to pass often, unfortunately, but I just gave myself a new haircut and a style I don't usually have. Hair is typically a good bit longer. Please be totally honest with me, and tips are much appreciated. Uh... yes, sorry for the crappy webcam quality. Thanks.
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Quote from: Atypical on October 09, 2014, 04:02:28 PM
Might as well try this one. I don't seem to pass often, unfortunately, but I just gave myself a new haircut and a style I don't usually have. Hair is typically a good bit longer. Please be totally honest with me, and tips are much appreciated. Uh... yes, sorry for the crappy webcam quality. Thanks.
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I personally think the messy haircut actually helps you pass. You have a nice square jawline that also helps well. I am not really sure what else to say, but on that picture I would personally never say anything other then male. :)
Even for the low quality, that picture is actually pretty good :)
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I'd love any tips and opinions, and please be honest. I'm pre-t. The second two are after I trimmed my hair myself for the first time.
Oh, also, tell me how old I look.
I'm still really new to all this, and I don't really want to go on T yet, as I feel I'm not ready for that yet (I have a feeling I might be more fluid gender, but I still get gender Dysphoria (spelling arg) hmm) but I'm just wondering, how do I pass so far. Any advice? Dont hold back any nicities, I want hard, cold facts (I need to loose weight so Ill be hoping to slim down my face at least). But I love my longish emo hair and tees so I really don't want to change them. (also this is picture heavy)
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Me in my big shirt and glasses (sorry I suck at taking pics)
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Me in a tighter shirt. it shows off my arms better but it gives me the dreaded uniboob
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(dunno if you can see it here) but because of this, I tend to wear oversize shirts mostly because im trying to hide my chest as im pretty big
Also a close up of my face without the glasses
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My smile pretty much kills the attempt of passing along with my voice (which literally sounds like a sexy woman with a lisp)
I'm not sure what to do to make it even more to pass but I don't want to go onto T. At least not yet as I'm working in a coffee shop as well and they currently know me as a female (and I cant wear my binder there, its too vigorous to wear something tight)But as long as I can at least pass as a teenage boy (I look like a 15 year old girl anyway despite being nearly 21)
(real sorry bout the big post btw)
BlueGemFox - I don't think your tees are the problem (I like them). I think something big is your hair, which is a very obviously feminine style. A fairly short style would suit you well, I think. Also, I'd recommend buying mens' pants that are the right length, if you can, so you don't have to cuff them. There's nothing wrong with the cuffs, but if you already have a somewhat feminine look it probably won't help.
The emo style is cool, but if you'd like to pass as a boy/guy, going conservative is best. Jeans, sneakers, tees that hide your chest or don't draw attention to it, flannels and plain button-ups. Imo, this is what separates male from butch if you have some features that aren't extremely masculine already.
Thanks for the help, lucaas! My hair is actually the guys style cut, but it might be the bangs that's giving it a feminine look. Pants are the hardest part however. I can have them uncuffed, but because I'm really short with really wide hips, any jeans I buy seem too long as I get them just snug enough around the hips and legs. Is there specific types if jeans that would work on short but wide guys? Skinny jeans fit my shape but again, would be too feminine. I'll try getting some plain button ups and trying that out. I have bigger shoes though to give my feet that bigger look
I did have a very short cut 2 years ago however, and holy damn I look like David tennant! But I was very skinny then so my face was less puffy, I need to find the picture.
Ps I think you're passing really well, wish I could leave some great feedback but I don't know enough yet xD IMO you look about 16-17
Dalex: That means a lot man, thanks. Think I'll keep to the hairstyle then. Yeah, got a bit lucky on the jawline, not sure how. both parents have pretty heart-shaped faces.
So Looking at my hair and such, I decided to see if maybe I could do something at it. I dont really want to cut it yet as I'm not sure how to cut it as (and it was a really expensive cut too. Saved up for it.)
So I decided to try another outfit mix. How well did I do?
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I think the hat helps. For me, it's less about the cut and more about the colors. Guys don't normally color their hair the way yours is. But it would also help if the back wasn't spiked as much, I think. Also, I'm not sure about the necklace. Beyond those small things though, I think your face is very masculine looking. You have nice thick eyebrows. Have you considered trying to buy women's jeans that are styled like men's? The problem is that a lot of men's jeans for bigger guys are sold with a pretty long inseam. But it seems to be easier to find women's jeans with an androgynous style. Another thing is that you could measure your waist and inseam and special order jeans online. I think the tshirts are fine though. I really can't see your chest.
Again, I actually took the colours from a guys style cut, but maybe thats because most male emo haircuts are feminine anyway? but thats probably a good point too. I can wear the back down nice and flat actually. I should give that a try and take a pic next shower (hair is full of product right now). I usually wear skull necklaces, but that one I haven't taken off for years. Though, in my location, a lot of women do wear these particular stone charms, so thats probably not helping yeah. Im pretty glad I got at least some masculine looks in my face, that was my most biggest concern (as im always being called my mum's twin sister). Though I never thought about special ordering jeans. I will defenitly have to try that as finding square womens jeans is nigh impossible here, particularly seeing as jeans cost nearly 100 bucks here for a good pair. I am so glad my shirts are working, that was my biggest fear.
but thanks a lot for the info, kdbrrw!!
BlueGemFox - I'd recommend trying on some mens jeans in a store. My "rule" for pants (for me, anyway!) is to get styles such as slim or slim-straight, no bigger. Since my hips are wider than the average guy's and yours probably are too, if I were to get a style such as "relaxed", that aren't fitted somewhat in the legs, then my legs would look bizarrely large.
I'm sorry, this is kind of hard to explain, haha. You don't want to look like you're swimming in your jeans, or that your legs are disproportionately large compared to your upper body. I think it sort of makes your torso look shorter because of how large your legs would look in unfitted pants, you know?
My favorite pair of jeans are skinny jeans and I feel like they feel and look just right on me. They "show off" my legs, but not in a bad way. They aren't skin-tight, so they make my hips appear to be just as wide as my upper thighs. Slim style jeans and some pairs of slim-straight have the same effect.
Obviously this won't be the same for every guy, but I've heard others give this same advice and it works well for me. I've got CRAZY skinny arms, so when I wear my skinny jeans that are more fitted to my body I look at least a little more proportionate.
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WOW, this turned into a rant. Sorry! I hope it made sense. And thanks, BlueGemFox! :) I'm always worried about passing in pictures since I'm the opposite of photogenic.. oh, and I think that's the oldest age any stranger has estimated me to be! Haha. I feel like I look 14 even though I'm 19. No one ever thinks that I'm an adult.
No problem! Im about nearly 21 and I look 14-15 as my born gender as well as my preferred gender xD. I actually have mens skinny jeans, however I wear skinny jeans often as a female and I got some pretty wide hips and a well rounded backside thanks to my mums genes.
But maybe I could give it a shot actually, I haven't tried them yet. I'm mostly afraid it will bring more attention to my legs and hips seeing as I am very curvy but maybe a shirt over them might help. May even look more better with my style too, lucky I have pretty thick arms so I can get away with some larger legs. Ill have a look for some more mens jeans in stores and see which ones fit well.
Edit: I gave the skinny jeans a shot, my guy ones did not fit at all (need to loose me some pounds) so I had to resort to some womens skinny jeans, but I think its made a much bigger difference
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Ill try getting some mens skinny jeans soon. how am I going so far now?
BlueGemFox,
I'm sorry, but I am going to have to go with the other guys saying that your hair color and hair style takes away from you looking male. When you have your hat on covering in it (like in your avatar and the one in the dressing room), you look more male.
I think that when a person buys clothes (jeans, in this example), they should care less about if they are men's or women's and more about what will help their bodies look more masculine. Personally, I would say that the first pair you have on is a better choice (except the rolled up part), when it comes to looking more male. I agree that skinny jeans accentuate a person's curves.
If you are not binding, that and wearing black shirts (especially the plain black one like you have in the dressing room pic), will help with passing, as well.
damn yeah, I really like the colour too. Well, I will just wear more hats anyway, I have a huge collection of hats and love wearing them. I think I'll avoid spiking my hair, it does look a lot better when its down and scruffy.
Ill try turning the cuffs inside out on those pants then, but I do personally like them. they're not as tight and give me a lot of freedom. The reason why I'm peculiar about what gendered pants to wear is specifically from design. womens pants are designed to emphasize hips and legs, even straight boxy ladies pants/jeans. they also don't leave as much room for a packer (especially since I prefer wearing my pants a bit higher on my hips.)
I'm really glad that I've got the shirts going good, seeing as I have been cursed with a very large chest, I want to hide as much as possible.
I really appreciate the help you guys are giving!
Quote from: BlueGemFox on October 12, 2014, 10:35:17 AM
The reason why I'm peculiar about what gendered pants to wear is specifically from design. womens pants are designed to emphasize hips and legs, even straight boxy ladies pants/jeans. they also don't leave as much room for a packer (especially since I prefer wearing my pants a bit higher on my hips.)
Oh, ok, that makes sense. I haven't worn female clothing in 25 years (I'm 44!), so I didn't think that deeply into it.
Since you enjoy your hair, just wear the hats when it is especially important to you that you pass. :)
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Feeling a lot better with my new haircut ;)
Thanks brett! I might give the bangs a trim though, shorten them, but the colours gonna have to wait until its grown out or I dye my hair again haha. But I got about over 20 hats so I got no problem with that. :P
Not many people do realize the different design in clothes (especially if you haven't worn them in ages). I make my own for cosplays so I look into clothing design a bit more deeply. But yeah, Hope these hats do the trick to passing until I get another haircut or loose a bit of weight.
@EvanAidan You're looking fantastic! Your new haircut is really suiting you :D
Daaaang, Evan! Looking good! I would definitely say pass!
Quote from: devention on October 13, 2014, 09:14:14 PM
Daaaang, Evan! Looking good! I would definitely say pass!
Thanks man! I been passing pretty good at work. Now just waitin on my T to take more of an effect!
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Sorry for another link but after some introspection I've realized that the only way for me to be a man is to be a superhero with a blanket cape.
(It's spirit week at my school)
But. All seriousness, I think my face looks more masculine with my hair hidden under that hat, which brings me to consider shaving my head or maybe just a buzz cut? Thoughts? Would it help me pass or would that somehow make it worse... I'm not sure.
Epicene, the nice thing about hair is that it grows back! I'd buzz first to see if your head shape is good for very short hair, if that's what you want to try.
I agree that you pass better in the second picture, but part of that has to do with your clothing, as well. Your jaw shape seems good for shorter hair, IMO.
Give it a shot, I think. Like I said, if you don't like it, just grow it back out. :)
i havent posted a picture of myself here before but i am 2 months on T, this was me last month. I feel i pass better when i dont smile for some reason so i hope one day to be able to smile in pictures and not hate it.. i feel ive scrutinised myself so much that i've lost sight of whether i actually pass or not!
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Quote from: j612 on October 14, 2014, 12:19:54 PM
i havent posted a picture of myself here before but i am 2 months on T, this was me last month. I feel i pass better when i dont smile for some reason so i hope one day to be able to smile in pictures and not hate it.. i feel ive scrutinised myself so much that i've lost sight of whether i actually pass or not!
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You definately pass for me man. You just look like a young boy, kind of like me. Haha.
You pass to me, j612.
Thank you!! I forgot to say i am 27 but always take it as a compliment looking younger :D
Hey I'm 24 and look twelve. No problems with that!
BlueGemFox, I think you're looking more masculine in your most recent pics! And honestly, you look awesome either way, no matter what your style of dress is.
EvanAidan, you look great! I don't see anything but male.
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Here's a couple more of me, wearing a shirt that fits (in my last ones the shirt was an extra small, which doesn't fit well now). I'm pre-t.
Favorite long-sleeve tee and skinny jeans.
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Still putting my hair in a ponytail...I'm scared that my head would look very oblong with a short haircut.
Hairline is still a perfect upside down U.
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Quote from: Marcellow on October 15, 2014, 01:31:46 PM
Still putting my hair in a ponytail...I'm scared that my head would look very oblong with a short haircut.
Hairline is still a perfect upside down U.
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Hey Marcello, I think you'd look great with a short haircut. Something that's short on the sides and longer on top that you can slick back or let fall over your forehead. You remind me of some of the men that were on TV and in films in the 40s and 50s, with a kind of "classic" facial shape, imo. So I think a "classic" cut would fit you well. Idk, that's just what popped into my head. I feel like it (a short cut) would help your ability to pass a lot!
Thanks lucaas!! I see what you mean by the skinny jeans, they do work really well with your slim body type! Personally, I thought that small tee you had on in the previous pic fit you quite well, it wasn't too tight and it was just the right size for your arms too, didn't make you look too skinny :D
Quote from: chipper on October 16, 2014, 05:42:42 PM
I completely agree, Lucaas. That type of cut would really help bring more of the focus to your masculine features, Marcellow.
Like this? :O
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This is me! My hair isn't actually cut, just tucked into my hats. My current guy shirt is too big for me (the mint one) so it looks a little odd wearing it.. Wish I wasn't so tiny.
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Got a job interview today. Unfortunately, it was hard to tell how well I passed, since it's my old job again and everyone there already knew me. :/
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Oh yeah, you pass. And you are rockin' the hat. You look good.
I'm looking for a new man cut, maybe I'll attract a hot dude with it.
This is after a shower but it will stay up like that all day long, just right now it's kind of eww.
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I'm starting T on Monday (if everything goes as planned) so I wanted to take some pre-t pictures. Here's a typical straight forward picture I took of my face.
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Quote from: prestonnn15 on October 24, 2014, 08:20:42 PM
I'm starting T on Monday (if everything goes as planned) so I wanted to take some pre-t pictures. Here's a typical straight forward picture I took of my face.
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Well you're definitely off to a great start. Look like a guy already.
prestonn,
I don't know how your body looks, but your face is already a pass, I think.
Quote from: Marcellow on October 24, 2014, 08:32:07 PM
Well you're definitely off to a great start. Look like a guy already.
Haha thank you :)
Quote from: Brett on October 24, 2014, 09:26:21 PM
prestonn,
I don't know how your body looks, but your face is already a pass, I think.
I used to be really conscious about my hips, but they're only a 32... My chest is on the bigger side, but my binder helps a lot. I'm never referred to as female in person, but on the phone..that's a different story. I get anxious and my voice gets a bit higher.
Preston, you definitely pass to me. Lookin good, I like the haircut!
Quote from: prestonnn15 on October 25, 2014, 09:18:58 PM
Haha thank you :)
I used to be really conscious about my hips, but they're only a 32... My chest is on the bigger side, but my binder helps a lot. I'm never referred to as female in person, but on the phone..that's a different story. I get anxious and my voice gets a bit higher.
For me it is the voice too. If you are starting out at full dose it shouldn't be too long.
I agree with Maleth, that this is a good haircut for you.
Quote from: Maleth on October 26, 2014, 08:43:57 AM
Preston, you definitely pass to me. Lookin good, I like the haircut!
Thank you! I look a bit different from my daily appearance because it was just for a structural comparison. And thank you, once again, man. I really appreciate it :)
So after doing some mixing and matching with different clothes, and a little re sewing on my pants, I think I'm looking much better than before
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(one without some glare, but my arms get in the way)
What do you guys think? I've been told i sound like a man on the phone and over voice chats so I got that covered (yet I'm not on T just yet). Do I pass in appearance?
Quote from: BlueGemFox on October 29, 2014, 08:07:10 AM
So after doing some mixing and matching with different clothes, and a little re sewing on my pants, I think I'm looking much better than before
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(one without some glare, but my arms get in the way)
What do you guys think? I've been told i sound like a man on the phone and over voice chats so I got that covered (yet I'm not on T just yet). Do I pass in appearance?
I definately think your passing better. The jeans look a lot better. Being short sucks because when they are really baggy, it just looks odd. I think the hoodie adds. Great job working on appearance man.
Quote from: EvanAidan on October 29, 2014, 08:33:14 AM
I definately think your passing better. The jeans look a lot better. Being short sucks because when they are really baggy, it just looks odd. I think the hoodie adds. Great job working on appearance man.
Thanks! yeah, I had to redo the hemming on my jeans, but i might be able to get custom made jeans possibly online. and I think because the hoodie just adds that right shape? but I'm glad, I love my hoodies haha
Quote from: BlueGemFox on October 29, 2014, 08:53:12 AM
Thanks! yeah, I had to redo the hemming on my jeans, but i might be able to get custom made jeans possibly online. and I think because the hoodie just adds that right shape? but I'm glad, I love my hoodies haha
I usually wear hoodies, or multiple layers. I'm a little guy, with an abnormally large chest for my size, and I have found that throwing on a zip up hoodie, or a button up definately helps hide that shape, also wearing layers. Like your binder, a wife beater a tee shirt and then the hoodie or even a couple tee shirts. (It just makes for a whole lot of laundry). And if you find somewhere to get custom hemmed jeans let me know, because I have to work one jeans too when I buy them.
Quote from: BlueGemFox on October 29, 2014, 08:53:12 AM
Thanks! yeah, I had to redo the hemming on my jeans, but i might be able to get custom made jeans possibly online. and I think because the hoodie just adds that right shape? but I'm glad, I love my hoodies haha
depending on the look you are going for you can also just cut them. I have a couple pairs of jeans that I cut to the right length. Since I'm usually wearing hoodies or flannel and tee-shirts having the cut jeans isn't out of place.
prestonnn15- holy crud man. you already pass.
Hi, I'm Chris, I'm new here.
I'm now one week on T. This was taken just before my first shot- camera quality is not great, but my fiancee up in the corner there screencapped it because she thought I was looking particularly "dudely".
21, 5'9", 150-ish lbs. Pretty sure I pass much better in pictures than in real life.
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Lucaas, You look great in a t-shirt, your chest looks flat like any cis guy your size. Would like to say your size before binding and how you are binding? I am about a b/c and sure would like to look as flat as you do in a t-shirt.
Bluegemfox, big improvement!
Welcome Chris. You pass to me.
Quote from: BlueGemFox on October 29, 2014, 08:07:10 AM
So after doing some mixing and matching with different clothes, and a little re sewing on my pants, I think I'm looking much better than before
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(one without some glare, but my arms get in the way)
What do you guys think? I've been told i sound like a man on the phone and over voice chats so I got that covered (yet I'm not on T just yet). Do I pass in appearance?
I think you pass!
Since you enjoy hoodies, like me, a tip is that you can leave the zippers open halfway, which can visually help getting a more masculine V shape torso. Not saying you need it, but it's helped me when I'm not confident with my binding.
Quote from: ChurchOfChris on October 29, 2014, 07:05:08 PM
Hi, I'm Chris, I'm new here.
I'm now one week on T. This was taken just before my first shot- camera quality is not great, but my fiancee up in the corner there screencapped it because she thought I was looking particularly "dudely".
21, 5'9", 150-ish lbs. Pretty sure I pass much better in pictures than in real life.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/1891086_1478865032386720_7544652106924420207_n.jpg?oh=98ea8cef1f6130e22f4c14f5258147dc&oe=54AAD0D1&__gda__=1424196839_1d43c068f506719a8e07ce9332527444)
You pass to me too! Your haircut and glasses really suit you.
Quote from: EvanAidan on October 29, 2014, 09:02:38 AM
I usually wear hoodies, or multiple layers. I'm a little guy, with an abnormally large chest for my size, and I have found that throwing on a zip up hoodie, or a button up definately helps hide that shape, also wearing layers. Like your binder, a wife beater a tee shirt and then the hoodie or even a couple tee shirts. (It just makes for a whole lot of laundry). And if you find somewhere to get custom hemmed jeans let me know, because I have to work one jeans too when I buy them.
Sadly, it gets really hot here for layers, I was sweating in that pic i took alone. Though, having an open jumper or an open button up over the shirt does help a lot.
And thanks Brett! Im still improving too.
Quote from: beaver on October 31, 2014, 12:14:53 AM
I think you pass!
Since you enjoy hoodies, like me, a tip is that you can leave the zippers open halfway, which can visually help getting a more masculine V shape torso. Not saying you need it, but it's helped me when I'm not confident with my binding.
Ill give that a shot, as sometimes my weight makes it hard to bring out my torso a bit better
(Hey guys, new here)
Bluegemfox, you look really good in these pictures imo. Pass to me.
I'm pre-t and semi-passing. Maybe I get called he, that guy, etc on my own, but I never pass if I'm with women/a woman. Then it's always 'ladies' :-\. Maybe that's cuz they hear me talking, idk.
Any tips? Think T will help me with the non existent eye-brows?
This is a pic from about month ago when I was showing off how long my hair had gotten, right before getting a hair cut.
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And here is 5 mins ago, not smiling (after reading the tips on here! I'm usually a pretty smiley guy)
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(also not binding in this pic but I don't think you can tell...)
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It was one of our dress up for Halloween days at work, so I decided to wear my old military uniform. Got a lot more sirs and was definately perceived as male more than when in my work uniform.
Welcome you the forums, Goat! I dig the new hair, and I think it helps a lot :3
Looking good, Evan! You definitely pass to me, and thank you for your service.
5 months on T
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its usually hard for me to get a full body pic, cause im short and my mirror stops around my waist usually, I know face wise i'm pretty good with passing, but I'm hoping my hips have lost their "girlishness" since being on T
I wouldn't call your hips girlish, Ryan. Can't tell if it's your pocket or what, but in the phone-side of the picture, it just looks like something is sticking out of your hip.
But I'd definitely say pass.
How do i look? Do i pass with or without glasses? Age and im i a good looking lad?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi170.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu258%2Fbigfanfrodo%2Ftrans%2F20141023_175525_zps5f9d385b.jpg&hash=3269f195530f432f1b9f6a10e2218390faf04f7a) (http://s170.photobucket.com/user/bigfanfrodo/media/trans/20141023_175525_zps5f9d385b.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi170.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu258%2Fbigfanfrodo%2Ftrans%2FIMG_0402_zps02f874ca.jpg&hash=c9be4c5349e8f98bd37e75cbfad74a6c35f4b078) (http://s170.photobucket.com/user/bigfanfrodo/media/trans/IMG_0402_zps02f874ca.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi170.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu258%2Fbigfanfrodo%2Ftrans%2F20140921_114750_zps9517624a.jpg&hash=dd485f77f768c604c032a5817d0d28e6d68931d5) (http://s170.photobucket.com/user/bigfanfrodo/media/trans/20140921_114750_zps9517624a.jpg.html)
im unsure about the last pic.
Ryan, I think you look good. I think the most important thing when buying dress pants is to find a cut that doesn't flare out at the pockets. That can be hard for some guys to find, but I think that puffiness points out a wider hip. A larger size pant can decrease this, but then you are looking at pants that don't fit as well in other areas.
Once you find a good cut/style of pants, stick with them. What I have found since I have started T is that the very top part of my thighs are getting bigger. My father had big, heavy thighs (muscle, not fat). It is causing my pants to tighten across the front. Pocket puffiness is happening as a result. I am a bit concerned about it because then I have to do the "search" again for the right brand/style. I didn't expect that my pants (men's, obviously), would start to fit worse rather than better after I went on T!
Anyway, YMMV, but if the above is helpful in any way, there it is.
Rex, definite pass, no question. I think you are more handsome without the glasses. I am so bad at ages. Honestly, I would have to see you in person because from the picture I can see you as being within a large range, even up to your late 20's (maybe into early 30's?). Alternatively, you could be a lot younger than that.
thanks brett, I appreciate the advice
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Dress clothes
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Day after I got my hair cut that short for the first time :D
I'm about 5'2, and a little chubby. Do I pass, and for how old?
Rexyrex you pass 100%. Frankly I'm shocked that you are even asking! You look awesome.
Quote from: Brett on November 02, 2014, 08:11:49 AM
Rex, definite pass, no question. I think you are more handsome without the glasses. I am so bad at ages. Honestly, I would have to see you in person because from the picture I can see you as being within a large range, even up to your late 20's (maybe into early 30's?). Alternatively, you could be a lot younger than that.
Thanks, late 20's but act like 17. Glasses wise I have to wear them I hate it but is it the style/shape it hard picking the right one as there loads out there.
Quote from: birkin on November 02, 2014, 10:34:47 AM
Rexyrex you pass 100%. Frankly I'm shocked that you are even asking! You look awesome.
Thanks birkin it hard to see it my self but thanks. Maybe this should have gone onto a badass thread
Jay second picture you pass as a young boy.
Jay, you pass to me for a 14 year old boy. I love the vest/white button up combo, but careful with the length of those button up shirts. For your height, if they go much more than 2" past the top of your pant waist line, ya gotta tuck it.
Hey! It seems I am a part of a short film acting as a dead boy xD But, being pre T and all I was very nervous during the shoots today about not passing... Some pictures were taken and I was wondering if any of you were up for telling me if I pass?
This one was taken before the makeup was applied
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And here is me after
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And I am here in the middle between the two main actors as we were setting up for our next shoot (I want to add.... I am standing a step behind the two and I dug myself a bit further into the ground to appear even shorter xD)
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Hey Dalex idk if this is weird or not but to me you pass better with the makeup on. Probably cause it brings out your angles a bit. Curious though how tall are you? Ps. I wanted advice on something I wore today but I still can't the hang of posting pics so best I could do was change my profile pic.. Sigh
Quote from: JHeron on November 06, 2014, 04:23:53 AM
Hey Dalex idk if this is weird or not but to me you pass better with the makeup on. Probably cause it brings out your angles a bit. Curious though how tall are you? Ps. I wanted advice on something I wore today but I still can't the hang of posting pics so best I could do was change my profile pic.. Sigh
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Quote from: JHeron on November 06, 2014, 04:23:53 AM
Hey Dalex idk if this is weird or not but to me you pass better with the makeup on. Probably cause it brings out your angles a bit. Curious though how tall are you? Ps. I wanted advice on something I wore today but I still can't the hang of posting pics so best I could do was change my profile pic.. Sigh
Thanks JHeron :) It's actually good to hear I pass better with the makeup on since that is how I look through out most of the film :P
And as for how tall I am, I am 157cm or 5"2' depending on which you use :P I'm short to start with so it wasn't really that hard to look really short, but I got asked to try to make myself even shorter in that shot xD
Got that haircut. Thoughts?
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Quote from: Marcellow on November 07, 2014, 12:51:11 PM
Got that haircut. Thoughts?
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you pass SO much more, in my opinion. the shorter sides compliment your face!
nice stache :)
Quote from: Marcellow on November 07, 2014, 12:51:11 PM
Got that haircut. Thoughts?
It absolutely suits you! Thumbs up [emoji106]
Also, has your face begun to change already? You look very different [emoji2]
Quote from: adrian on November 07, 2014, 02:17:47 PM
It absolutely suits you! Thumbs up [emoji106]
Also, has your face begun to change already? You look very different [emoji2]
I feel like it has but I can't place on what's different...
I think my eyebrows arch has changed?
Dude, you pass SO much better with the short hair. Looks good!
Quote from: Marcellow on November 07, 2014, 02:27:13 PM
I feel like it has but I can't place on what's different...
I think my eyebrows arch has changed?
I thought your mouth/jaw area looked different. Maybe a combined effect of the haircut and t?
Quote from: devention on November 07, 2014, 02:32:49 PM
Dude, you pass SO much better with the short hair. Looks good!
I agree, the short hair suits you much better!
Huge difference marcellow! Looking good.
Wow Marcellow, you really do pass so much more.
Dalex- you can go either way with me. I wouldn't question you as a boy.
me- I'm 6 months on T now. I am trying to get the nerve to post a new picture. Been feeling like I'm making no progress at all, but got "sirred" today so maybe I am.
Quote from: Marcellow on November 07, 2014, 12:51:11 PM
Got that haircut. Thoughts?
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You look almost exactly like this guy who was in a band with me when I was in high school. So yeah, the haircut definitely is working.
Quote from: Marcellow on November 07, 2014, 12:51:11 PM
Got that haircut. Thoughts?
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looks nice
Quote from: christopher on November 07, 2014, 09:54:03 PM
Wow Marcellow, you really do pass so much more.
Dalex- you can go either way with me. I wouldn't question you as a boy.
me- I'm 6 months on T now. I am trying to get the nerve to post a new picture. Been feeling like I'm making no progress at all, but got "sirred" today so maybe I am.
post a pic chris, I'm sure you pass
My hair's gotten a bit out of shape again (because going to a barber is sooooo difficult), thus covering it. IMO, I look better this way, too.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1951RuCAAA4AEk.jpg)
Not the best possible angle but whatever.
Judging by the responses in phone I pass at least voice-wise. :P Appearance-wise it's still hard to tell because no gender specific pronouns.
But I do think I pass quite well these days. Voice certainly does wonders for passing.
Gosh, I think my eyebrows have gotten even thicker... I LIKE IT.
Tossu-sama you look great, dude!
7 months! Dressed up for an interview the other day. How old do I look?
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Handsome! I'm really really bad at guessing someone's age, but I'd say 21-22?
Quote from: Tossu-sama on November 08, 2014, 08:59:15 PM
My hair's gotten a bit out of shape again (because going to a barber is sooooo difficult), thus covering it. IMO, I look better this way, too.
Total pass.
Beaver- I'm bad at age but you don't look like a kid to me. So college age or older.
Quote from: Ryan55 on November 08, 2014, 08:55:46 PM
post a pic chris, I'm sure you pass
Ok, here goes nothing. I am getting correctly gendered some of the time now but it's not consistent. And clothes definitely make a difference. In my work uniform I don't pass well at all even though my name tag has a male name. It's depressing.
Please don't quote the pictures because I will be taking them down after a bit.
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Quote from: Bombadil on November 10, 2014, 10:25:54 PM
Ok, here goes nothing. I am getting correctly gendered some of the time now but it's not consistent. And clothes definitely make a difference. In my work uniform I don't pass well at all even though my name tag has a male name. It's depressing.
Please don't quote the pictures because I will be taking them down after a bit.
BOMBADIL! Love the new name [emoji16]
Honestly, in the pics I see nothing but a guy. A cool guy! I'm sorry that gendering isn't consistent yet - it will come!
Quote from: Bombadil on November 10, 2014, 10:25:54 PM
Ok, here goes nothing. I am getting correctly gendered some of the time now but it's not consistent. And clothes definitely make a difference. In my work uniform I don't pass well at all even though my name tag has a male name. It's depressing.
Please don't quote the pictures because I will be taking them down after a bit.
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you look likE A guy to me, really like the hoodie too
Quote from: Bombadil on November 10, 2014, 10:25:54 PM
Ok, here goes nothing. I am getting correctly gendered some of the time now but it's not consistent. And clothes definitely make a difference. In my work uniform I don't pass well at all even though my name tag has a male name. It's depressing.
You look good Chris!
Quote from: adrian on November 10, 2014, 12:20:19 AM
Handsome! I'm really really bad at guessing someone's age, but I'd say 21-22?
Thanks! I'm actually 20, so your guess is pretty spot-on. Might be the suit, but it's nice to be seen my age finally.
Quote from: Bombadil on November 10, 2014, 10:25:54 PM
Ok, here goes nothing. I am getting correctly gendered some of the time now but it's not consistent. And clothes definitely make a difference. In my work uniform I don't pass well at all even though my name tag has a male name. It's depressing.
Total pass to me, no question from what I can see.
Chris, you look like you would pass better than the last time I saw you. Looks kinda like the T is working on your face structure. Definitely manly.
And beaver, you look killer in that suit. Your hair and face totally pass independent of the suit, though. You're wearing it, it's not wearing you.
No picture to show the outfit, but last night I passed at my friend's bday gathering! ;D
Wasn't purposely trying to pass, but one of my friend's co-workers who came, and whom I met for the first time last night called me "HE" :icon_geekdance:
Quote from: beaver on November 09, 2014, 08:15:04 PM
7 months! Dressed up for an interview the other day. How old do I look?
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very nice
Quote from: Bombadil on November 10, 2014, 10:25:54 PM
Ok, here goes nothing. I am getting correctly gendered some of the time now but it's not consistent. And clothes definitely make a difference. In my work uniform I don't pass well at all even though my name tag has a male name. It's depressing.
Did you ever consider if there could be other underlying reasons why other than mere looks e.g. body language or speech pattern? I find that trans guys who do not adopt a masculine style of being (speech pattern, body language etc.) are far more likely to be continually misgendered even after being a long time on T. Because it's definitely not your looks tbh, it really isn't. There must be other reasons why people get mixed signals from you.
Thought I would see what yall thought. Im not on testosterone or anything yet. just now coming to terms about being transgender
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Hey, I think you'll do great on t! :) I see ambiguous traits now.
Have you tried playing with accessories like glasses, hats? :)
Edit: sorry, I just wanted to say I didn't want to imply you or anyone had to go (or want to go) on t.
Thanks! I have tried glasses but I feel like they make me look more feminine. Ill see about a hat though!
Quote from: catastrophe1993 on November 21, 2014, 08:04:50 AM
Thanks! I have tried glasses but I feel like they make me look more feminine. Ill see about a hat though!
Yeah, on some guys (me, for example [emoji13]) glasses can give a more feminine appearance -- others look more masculine with them. I'm determined to find a pair that makes me look less like a girl [emoji33]. It has to be possible!
Hey All. I'm a little more than 5 1/2 months on T and as of this week I've lost about 60lbs from my heaviest of 230 1 1/2 years ago. I've lost some excess chest fat, so when I stretch out I feel like they're not there anymore. I took a picture and wanted to ask for opinions on how me and my chest look 6 months on T. I'm not sure about the rules, since I'm technically pre-op, so I'll post the link instead of the actual photo:
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z248/muckapucka/Mobile%20Uploads/image.jpg
Thanks!
Quote from: KamTheMan on November 21, 2014, 04:16:04 PM
Hey All. I'm a little more than 5 1/2 months on T and as of this week I've lost about 60lbs from my heaviest of 230 1 1/2 years ago. I've lost some excess chest fat, so when I stretch out I feel like they're not there anymore. I took a picture and wanted to ask for opinions on how me and my chest look 6 months on T. I'm not sure about the rules, since I'm technically pre-op, so I'll post the link instead of the actual photo:
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z248/muckapucka/Mobile%20Uploads/image.jpg
Thanks!
I just see a shirtless guy in the pic. Well played, sir.
Yeah Kam, they don't really look like "boobs" at all (sorry, I couldn't think of a better word). At most you would just look like a guy with very minor gyno when you're not stretching out.
Quote from: KamTheMan on November 21, 2014, 04:16:04 PM
Hey All. I'm a little more than 5 1/2 months on T and as of this week I've lost about 60lbs from my heaviest of 230 1 1/2 years ago. I've lost some excess chest fat, so when I stretch out I feel like they're not there anymore. I took a picture and wanted to ask for opinions on how me and my chest look 6 months on T. I'm not sure about the rules, since I'm technically pre-op, so I'll post the link instead of the actual photo:
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z248/muckapucka/Mobile%20Uploads/image.jpg
Thanks!
Great look! Passing 100%
Quote from: KamTheMan on November 21, 2014, 04:16:04 PM
Hey All. I'm a little more than 5 1/2 months on T and as of this week I've lost about 60lbs from my heaviest of 230 1 1/2 years ago. I've lost some excess chest fat, so when I stretch out I feel like they're not there anymore. I took a picture and wanted to ask for opinions on how me and my chest look 6 months on T. I'm not sure about the rules, since I'm technically pre-op, so I'll post the link instead of the actual photo:
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z248/muckapucka/Mobile%20Uploads/image.jpg
Thanks!
Hot Diggity, man! that's an awesome pic. You look awesome!
Kam, I just clicked the link without reading initially -- I didn't even consider you could possibly be pre-op. Wow!
Quote from: KamTheMan on November 21, 2014, 04:16:04 PM
Hey All. I'm a little more than 5 1/2 months on T and as of this week I've lost about 60lbs from my heaviest of 230 1 1/2 years ago. I've lost some excess chest fat, so when I stretch out I feel like they're not there anymore. I took a picture and wanted to ask for opinions on how me and my chest look 6 months on T. I'm not sure about the rules, since I'm technically pre-op, so I'll post the link instead of the actual photo:
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z248/muckapucka/Mobile%20Uploads/image.jpg
Thanks!
You look great, Kam. You already passed before T, so now what I am noticing the most is how handsome you are getting.
Good on ya!
Jill, Birkin, Polina, LoriLorenz, Adrian, and Brett: Thank You all so much!! My anxiety has been off the charts lately so I really appreciate the feedback!
Beaver - Love the suit! You look great, man. Spiffy!
Bombadil - Based on the pics, you look like you pass to me. There's nothing feminine about your looks at all. Perhaps like Ephemeral said, maybe there's something else giving you away?
Catastrophe - I see androgynous, but you definitely have passing potential. :) I hope you are doing well coming to terms with it. I was there about a year ago.
Kam - Looking good, man! I can't even tell you're pre-op in the pic.
Alright, so I dyed my hair not too long ago. Still not on T yet, but I thought I would see what you guys thought. Also, I realized I've never posted any full-body picks so I figured I'd throw a couple of those in there as well. Erm... please ignore my messy room in the last two pics. xD
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You would pass better with a masculine haircut, I read female when I see your long hair. :(
Quote from: Marcellow on November 23, 2014, 08:11:17 PM
You would pass better with a masculine haircut, I read female when I see your long hair. :(
That't okay. I appreciate your honesty. :) No foul!
I have been told that I need to loose the hair and glasses. But I don't really like having short hair. >.< I've always been kind of a long-hair kinda guy. I cut it short a few months ago and I couldn't stand it. :P I just felt weird. I don't know though. I might try it again. I was looking at some pictures today of when I had short hair and I think I *might* be able to get used to it. This might sound weird, but I kinda feel like my hair and glasses are a part of my identity and I'd feel a bit naked without them. xP lol
Here's a couple pics of when I had the short hair.
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I think I probably pass a lot better in these, but strangely I just don't really see myself in these pictures. :/ I don't know, there's not a lot of short hair cuts that I really like except this one, but I kinda feel like I look a lot like my ex with this haircut, which is, well, kinda awkward. xP
Yeah, I donno what to do with my weird self sometimes. xD
Yo Kaiden if you like the long hair keep it. If you're planning to go on T, which I assume you are since you mentioned it, then eventually it won't matter. I think you actually pass pretty well regardless of the hair. You don't seem to have a gendered body shape. You do pass really well as a young guy with the short hair. But seriously, rock the do you have if it makes you happy.
Oh yea and just to add the long hair looks more male parted in the middle like in the full body pics vs to the side like in your first pic.
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/f81902de3c301266bfe0c7d5eaabaa02/tumblr_nfj3qfEOll1tkkpxuo1_1280.jpg)
Ignore the horrible pose oh my god I photograph so awkwardly
Please be honest, especially if you have tips!
I've been on T for about 9 months but haven't had any surgery
I've been thinking about makeup
Just some subtle contouring to try to make my face more male
What do you guys think?
Kaiden: You pass a bit better with the shorter cut, but def keep it if you like it! post-T your face will change and I know a lot of guys with long hair so really, it's up to you. I will second the part in the middle, it changes your look enough to pass better. (though over all you pass visually) :)
Headsup: Hope I don't sound harsh or rude (I really do try not to!) but you pass pretty well, just a little chub around the chin. I know we all have different bodies and dif body needs, but if you could manage to shave a few pounds off, I bet that face would define itself very handsomely! Rockin the short cut though!
Thanks Lorenz!
I'm actually with you there, I've been trying to work out actually. Hoping to get some muscle and def thin out my face.
I've made a lot of big changes to my diet and lifestyle but it's a tiring process :/
I'll post more pics of I manage to get to a more desired body type!
Thanks Kam and Lori! Glad you dig the hair. :D
Yeah, I suppose I'm rather lucky that don't really have a feminine shape to my body for the most part. All my weight tends to go to my middle, so thankfully I don't have much of a waist and what contour is there is fairly easy to hide. I do usually part my hair in the middle too. Once in a while I like to straighten it and part it on the side because sometimes I like to try to be fancy, but usually I can't be bothered. xD
It's really good to hear that I pass for the most part. ;D
Headsupbuddy - You look like you pass to me, dude. I wouldn't recommend make-up. I tried it once, it didn't really work. Well, at least it didn't form me. xD I suppose it wouldn't hurt to try it if you really wanted to, but I don't think you need it. :)
Quote from: Headsupbuddy on November 23, 2014, 11:44:32 PM
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Ignore the horrible pose oh my god I photograph so awkwardly
Please be honest, especially if you have tips!
I've been on T for about 9 months but haven't had any surgery
I've been thinking about makeup
Just some subtle contouring to try to make my face more male
What do you guys think?
A female's skull is shaped different from a male's. When you get an all around crew cut this difference gets highlighted. A standard suggestion to new transmen is to not get a crew cut due to this.
I would suggest a different haircut. I don't know what, but maybe ask the stylist to cut it however will make your jawline look more square. It may be a matter of the sides being slightly shorter than the top or something, I have no idea, though (but, they will if you go to a unisex salon).
@KamTheMan: the only difference is in the nipple. unless you're looking for it, you wouldn't be able to tell. continue to work out and it is possible to have a toned chest, as a cis male would. one of my friends is now a body builder (with a pre op chest) and he looks great.
Headsup: I have to agree with Brett. I used to have the crew cut when I was in the military and I actually passed less back then. I now try to keep my hair cut with the sides a little shorter than the top and it helps square my jaw out a lot more. Just a thought.
~Kaiden, you can absolutely be a long haired guy. DO NOT be pressured into cutting your hair short just because "Men have short hair," or, "If you're really a trans guy, you'd have short hair." And you look great with long hair.
Quote from: KamTheMan on November 23, 2014, 10:01:39 PM
Oh yea and just to add the long hair looks more male parted in the middle like in the full body pics vs to the side like in your first pic.
I think the best pic is the second one. That long cut doesn't flatter you though, and if you want to sport a long hair male cut I would recommend to try to make the hair very even at the ends since men don't normally trim the ends in a layered way that females do it.
Anyway, you kind of remind me of my ex who also had that kind of cut and similar facial structure so it's passable.
I was wondering if I pass? I'm not on T. Also, I don't know how to post pictures so here you go.http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/ciennamonbun/profile/
Ciennamonbun: I think you pass pretty well! How old are you?
To me you def look like a guy, maybe in your late teens?
17-18ish maybe?
Looking young isn't much of an issue either way :)
Also thanks guys for the tips
I'll have to grow my hair a bit so I can get it cut differently!
Headsupbuddy: Thanks! I'm 17 actually. :laugh:
Quote from: ciennamonbun on November 25, 2014, 07:27:50 PM
I was wondering if I pass? I'm not on T. Also, I don't know how to post pictures so here you go.http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/ciennamonbun/profile/
mmmm....pass for a pretty cute guy if you ask me ;)
Quote from: ciennamonbun on November 25, 2014, 07:27:50 PM
I was wondering if I pass? I'm not on T. Also, I don't know how to post pictures so here you go.http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/ciennamonbun/profile/
yeah, you pass. you look around 15-16 to me? i think you pass more in the picture where you're making a funny face rather than smiling
Skylar: Thanks!
Palexander: Thanks, I'm 17 close enough.
I haven't started T yet and I've got a lot of work to do body image wise, but I'm just curious if I pass at all.
http://gyazo.com/91e73e4d0c8819929f62e5a080ad3f4b.png (http://gyazo.com/91e73e4d0c8819929f62e5a080ad3f4b.png)
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ciennamonbun, looking good! I see a cute boy :D
Sam, hmmm, your facial structure reads more feminine to me at the moment (you're not alone there, bro, I have the same "luck") :(. Nothing that t can't fix though :D.
In the meantime, I think the hood draws more attention to your face. I don't know what your hairstyle is, but I could imagine you could totally pull off a more andro/boyish look with the right haircut!
You're not alone, I have the same problem.
Adrian: Thanks man!
I just got my hair cut today, but I still kept the colour in it for now. Anyway, I managed to get some real nice dress shirts and polo shirts as they were marked down in the Mens section. Have I improved so far? Don't spare any details.
http://i.imgur.com/n0RiLWe.jpg
Me in the dress shirt
http://i.imgur.com/TZiWAAz.jpg
in the polo and no glasses
http://i.imgur.com/YUZNA5P.jpg
Bonus bowtie!
Sorry for the crappy pics. I might see about getting some dress pants instead of plain old jeans all the time.
Adrian: Yeaaah, I know it kinda sucks majorly. And yea I don't have any other pictures without a hood. But yea andro/boyish would be somewhere in the right direction I just gotta figure out what kind of haircut. Thanks man!
Sorry samalert and bluegemfox, I'm not good at telling if people pass or not... Or else I would totally give you guys pointers!
Quote from: BlueGemFox on November 26, 2014, 02:45:12 AM
I just got my hair cut today, but I still kept the colour in it for now. Anyway, I managed to get some real nice dress shirts and polo shirts as they were marked down in the Mens section. Have I improved so far? Don't spare any details.
http://i.imgur.com/n0RiLWe.jpg
Me in the dress shirt
http://i.imgur.com/TZiWAAz.jpg
in the polo and no glasses
http://i.imgur.com/YUZNA5P.jpg
Bonus bowtie!
Sorry for the crappy pics. I might see about getting some dress pants instead of plain old jeans all the time.
Either don't tuck the shirt in or get trousers that don't sit so high. It doesn't do your hips any favours at all.
My pants arent actually sitting so high, theyre on my hips. I have a really short torso and my hips are really evident when i wear the button up shirt untucked as i cant button up that last bottom button, they end up making the shirt flair out. but thats the smallest shirt size i can get. Could be my belt however, I wear my belts a bit too tight
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So hey my name is Joey im still pre-T and I'm wondering if I pass? Oh and since I'm curious try to guess my age.
Joey: Duuude, now I'm no expert, but I'd say you pass. I wouldn't have known anyways... And I'd guess 18- but I'm even worse at trying to determine age.
Quote from: samalert on November 26, 2014, 09:35:29 PM
Joey: Duuude, now I'm no expert, but I'd say you pass. I wouldn't have known anyways... And I'd guess 18- but I'm even worse at trying to determine age.
Thanks Sam I appreciate the the feedback lately I've been feeling iffy about the way I look so it really did help boost my confidence. Much appreciation
Quote from: joeythejoster on November 26, 2014, 05:40:17 PM
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So hey my name is Joey im still pre-T and I'm wondering if I pass? Oh and since I'm curious try to guess my age.
I think you definitely pass in that picture Joey. Although if you're having problems passing I would suggest getting smaller more squared lenses. They would help 'masculinize' your face even more :)
ciennamonbun: Yeah man, you pass. But I gotta ask.... what the HECK is all that pink shizz on your arms? :o
BlueGemFox: Rockin the Whovian look mate! I gotta get me more bowtie-able swag....
joeythejoster: I WISH IS COULD PASS LIKE YOU!!!!
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My thanksgiving dinner outfit. Mom said I can wear this.
LoriLorenz: Haha, I was at my school's football game. We were told to wear pink I showed up with none, then my friend Taylor saw me and she put pink all over me. It was all for breast cancer awareness.
Quote from: joeythejoster on November 26, 2014, 05:40:17 PM
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So hey my name is Joey im still pre-T and I'm wondering if I pass? Oh and since I'm curious try to guess my age.
Pass, and I'd guess you were a baby-faced college student. My brain says early 20s, probably because you remind me of me. :D But I suspect you get read as a young teen a lot.
Marcel, you are DEFINITELY looking more masculine between this shot and the last time I saw a pic. Very nice.
Quote from: captains on November 27, 2014, 04:06:19 PM
Pass, and I'd guess you were a baby-faced college student. My brain says early 20s, probably because you remind me of me. :D But I suspect you get read as a young teen a lot.
Marcel, you are DEFINITELY looking more masculine between this shot and the last time I saw a pic. Very nice.
Thanks though I just realized that there's a good chance I might not be passing as male for a very long time. Turns out we have a very slow aging gene in my family and my brother is still carded for alcohol and he's 27. ><
Thanks everyone for the reply I appreciate it. You guys were close on my age I'm actually 17. I've also decided to post a picture of my thanksgiving outfit and me without a beanie.
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Here's one with me and my awkward smile. I don't know I feel weird smiling
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Super handsome, Joey!
Quote from: joeythejoster on November 27, 2014, 07:39:37 PM
Thanks everyone for the reply I appreciate it. You guys were close on my age I'm actually 17. I've also decided to post a picture of my thanksgiving outfit and me without a beanie.
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Here's one with me and my awkward smile. I don't know I feel weird smiling
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very nice
Hoping this will work for posting... finally have a formal outfit! Shirt is waay big on me but it was a cheap charity shop find!
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(edit: one more try)
Might want to upload to Imgur and then use the direct link here.
Just wanted to post this. It's from a little over a month ago for my cousins wedding. I'm a naturally very small shouldered person due to a genetic bone defect so I concocted a shoulder padding to help me pass structure-wise until I've managed to help reverse as much of the detrimental damage as I can and gain some muscle mass to compensate. Until now I've made a habit to wear a hoody with the opening wide at the top to give the illusion of broadness. Going along side I have highly load-bearing hips... I may be lucky as hell in regards to androgens, but as they say, hips don't lie. Basically this post is less about my facial appearance but my body. I don't feel fully certain how well i pass due to my hips being so large. Losing weight but the hips will take forever to go away due to my small shoulders :C.
Anyhow what do you think? Yes I am pre-T, and yes I have abnormally high androgen levels due to severe PCOS, but no it's not naturally this dark. I use mascara on my facial hair to darken and thicken it like folks do to their eyelashes, haha. I sense I will likely be a hairy SOB after T, but who knows.
As a side note: yes using my mascara trick passes in public. I use it pretty much every time I leave the house unless I need to go to a doctor or something else that involves me addressing myself by legal name.
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Quote from: StirfriedKraut on November 30, 2014, 02:21:41 AM
Just wanted to post this. It's from a little over a month ago for my cousins wedding. I'm a naturally very small shouldered person due to a genetic bone defect so I concocted a shoulder padding to help me pass structure-wise until I've managed to help reverse as much of the detrimental damage as I can and gain some muscle mass to compensate. Until now I've made a habit to wear a hoody with the opening wide at the top to give the illusion of broadness. Going along side I have highly load-bearing hips... I may be lucky as hell in regards to androgens, but as they say, hips don't lie. Basically this post is less about my facial appearance but my body. I don't feel fully certain how well i pass due to my hips being so large. Losing weight but the hips will take forever to go away due to my small shoulders :C.
Anyhow what do you think? Yes I am pre-T, and yes I have abnormally high androgen levels due to severe PCOS, but no it's not naturally this dark. I use mascara on my facial hair to darken and thicken it like folks do to their eyelashes, haha. I sense I will likely be a hairy SOB after T, but who knows.
As a side note: yes using my mascara trick passes in public. I use it pretty much every time I leave the house unless I need to go to a doctor or something else that involves me addressing myself by legal name.
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StirfriedKraut,
I personally think you look great. I would have absolutely no idea that you were Pre-T. When I first glanced at the pictures, I thought you were a couple years in (you even have a bit of a male hairline). Looks like you really solved the shoulder problem and there are a lot of guys that have more hip than you. I bet you will be quite pleased with how you look after you start T!
Stirfriedkraut, you look exactly my old music teacher lol. So yes, a pass for sure.
got my photo working.
Results of No Shave November.
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lookin good! :)
Quote from: PucksWaywardSon on November 30, 2014, 07:32:10 PM
lookin good! :)
puckswaywardson, you look good for non-T! I can see your face being read relatively quickly as male if you go on T.
Quote from: Marcellow on November 30, 2014, 07:01:10 PM
Results of No Shave November.
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Wow that's impressive! Congrats!
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Does this look like a boy who has been forced to pretend to be some stranger every day?
I see a boy with pain behind his eyes.
Does it look like a person struggling to make it through the day, looking towards T like a dream past the sunset somewhere?
*sigh*
This is me before work.
Looks like a handsome androgynous guy to me. One who hasn't had coffee yet maybe [emoji6].
But seriously -- I adore your looks (sorry, I hope that's not too creepy).
Elio... definitely seeing a boy there, and a good lookin one!
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Does this look like a boy who has been forced to pretend to be some stranger every day?
I see a boy with pain behind his eyes.
Does it look like a person struggling to make it through the day, looking towards T like a dream past the sunset somewhere?
*sigh*
This is me before work.
you almost look like a video game character to me... woah.
i agree with adrian- definitely androgynous.
Quote from: Indoctrinated on November 30, 2014, 08:09:16 PM
Wow that's impressive! Congrats!
Thank you. Let's see how fast it grows back since it's shaved off now.
Right now in my school's library. (FTM cursed with round and soft face)
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Wham-Bam... love your hair!
Elio and Wham-Bam, I'd love to see you both smile! (I know, I know, I hate my own smiling pics too.) Either way though, ya both look awesome to me. :)
Wham-bam, I think that your face has it in it to look androgynous. Play with your hair a bit maybe -- I think the current cut emphasizes the form of your face. Love the color though!
I have a fairly femme face, and I think my current haircut (shorter sides, longer on top... probably looking a bit emo) makes me slightly more androgynous.
Quote from: adrian on December 02, 2014, 12:27:32 AM
Wham-bam, I think that your face has it in it to look androgynous. Play with your hair a bit maybe -- I think the current cut emphasizes the form of your face. Love the color though!
I have a fairly femme face, and I think my current haircut (shorter sides, longer on top... probably looking a bit emo) makes me slightly more androgynous.
Thanks for the tips. I had my hair cut really short over the summer (almost buzz cut), and people in real life told me that it showed off my feminine features. It's confusing, because on the internet people tell me to go shorter and in real life my close friends tell me that longer makes me look more androgynous.
I like your haircut idea. I would just be afraid of looking like a butch lesbian if I got it cut into something short and punkish or too artsy. I don't think there's anything wrong with butch lesbians, but it would undermine the 'trying not to look female' thing. :P Maybe, though...
Quote from: wham-bam-thank-you-mam on December 02, 2014, 06:25:37 PM
Thanks for the tips. I had my hair cut really short over the summer (almost buzz cut), and people in real life told me that it showed off my feminine features. It's confusing, because on the internet people tell me to go shorter and in real life my close friends tell me that longer makes me look more androgynous.
I like your haircut idea. I would just be afraid of looking like a butch lesbian if I got it cut into something short and punkish or too artsy. I don't think there's anything wrong with butch lesbians, but it would undermine the 'trying not to look female' thing. :P Maybe, though...
I'm pretty sure short hair makes me less androgynous. I'm going in stages now -- grow the top out a little, cut the sides a littler short, wait two months, repeat :D.
How do I post a pic?
Quote from: Trying to be me on December 07, 2014, 08:42:03 PM
How do I post a pic?
You upload the picture to Imgur.com and then post the direct image link between (//) tags
Thanks Marcellow
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I think I could maybe pass in the first one but don't think so on the second. Thoughts?
I agree that you pass in the first one, not so much the second. It might be the flannel I'm not to sure.
Hey again guys. So My top had been fine, but I had been struggling with pants, but I never tried wearing shorts however.
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(one with my hat with my new haircut. had to move my arm out the way.)
Sorry for the crappy lighting, Im in a dressing room and Im bad at taking selfies. I think Im passing a lot better now as pants were just not working with me. what do you guys think?
Blue: Shorts are looking good. :)
Trying: The flannel is bunching up around the moob lumps juuuust enough to trigger "girl" mode in what people see. Also, I think the part of your hair in the flannel shot isn't helping... weird how that would stick out to me... ??? Overall though, looking good.
Quote from: LoriLorenz on December 08, 2014, 04:15:45 AM
Trying: The flannel is bunching up around the moob lumps juuuust enough to trigger "girl" mode in what people see. Also, I think the part of your hair in the flannel shot isn't helping... weird how that would stick out to me... ??? Overall though, looking good.
Yeah my hair just did NOT want to do right that day.
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2.5 months on T. How well do I pass?
Thanks.
-Blake
Quote from: Trying to be me on December 07, 2014, 10:40:15 PM
Thanks Marcellow
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I think I could maybe pass in the first one but don't think so on the second. Thoughts?
you almost look like you have an adam's apple in the first one. in the second one i think that your eyebrows are what feminizes you...also your cheeks, and possibly the angle?
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2.5 months on T. How well do I pass?
Thanks.
-Blake
i think you pass pretty well, but the brows are throwing me off...
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2.5 months on T. How well do I pass?
Thanks.
-Blake
Pass :)
Quote from: palexander on December 09, 2014, 08:26:21 PM
you almost look like you have an adam's apple in the first one. in the second one i think that your eyebrows are what feminizes you...also your cheeks, and possibly the angle?
i think you pass pretty well, but the brows are throwing me off...
I've always had a big throat or Adam's apple to whatever you want to call it. Guess that was a good angle to show it off. :)
Cheeks too round, right?
No T ...no Filter..do i still pass (i'm 23)
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No T ...no Filter..do i still pass (i'm 23)
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I think you pass for the most part just based on looks. I've seen a few of your pics around the site! One thing if there would be a change would be the glasses? Something about the frames. Maybe if they were more squared off? I know maybe that's something you can't change as glasses can get expensive! I wouldn't peg you at 23 though maybe closer to 19 year old dude!
more recent picture, 3 months on T
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Quote from: nyrangers30 on December 12, 2014, 02:03:37 PM
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Looking good, Blake! Def a pass.
Quote from: jossef-ftm on December 11, 2014, 09:08:55 AM
No T ...no Filter..do i still pass (i'm 23)
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Yes about 18 to 20. Personally, I feel like snapbacks make people look younger (due to the average wearer's age group), just my 2 cents if you want to look older.
Hey guys, how am I doing? I don't feel like I look or sound very masculine, but I've been dropping weight and trying to look less "soft". Please don't quote the pictures in case I want to get rid of them.
Before T-
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And now, almost one year.
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Some awesome changes there! Lookin good man. :)
You guys are all looking great!! Some awesome progress on this thread ^-^
Trying- I agree that you pass better in the first photo. I think your hair being a bit messier helps you out, and you do have a prominent Adam's apple! It also might be that the part in the second photo shows off your hairline? I can't exactly pinpoint what says female to me... ???
Jossef- you've always passed to me! I think passing as male vs passing for your age is the struggle you face now. If you are very set on looking older, I would ditch the hat and try more conservative clothes. Think polos, dress shoes, button downs, khakis, etc. I don't think your glasses would look out of place if you dressed like this.
Blake- wow definite changes between your two photos! You look very similar to a young gay guy I know who's about 18. You are a handsome guy and T is only helping further that!
Zombie- you look great man! Some really prominent changes between your two photos. You have absolutely nothing to worry about; anyone who thinks you look soft is blind! Your glasses and facial hair really add to your masculinity. Congrats on a year on T and your weight loss!!
10 weeks on T
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10 weeks on T
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You're in the middle to me. Could go either way.
Quote from: Marcellow on December 21, 2014, 08:54:06 PM
10 weeks on T
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I think you pass a whole lot better with a shorter haircut. You're also "in the middle" to me too.
Quote from: AeroZeppelin92 on December 21, 2014, 10:45:46 PM
I think you pass a whole lot better with a shorter haircut. You're also "in the middle" to me too.
Yeah I know, I'll get one after Christmas. But I can't go too short cause my mother is threatening to have me kicked out because she doesn't want my hair almost bald.
Quote from: Konnor on December 21, 2014, 08:31:24 PM
Zombie- you look great man! Some really prominent changes between your two photos. You have absolutely nothing to worry about; anyone who thinks you look soft is blind! Your glasses and facial hair really add to your masculinity. Congrats on a year on T and your weight loss!!
Thank you very much! I was pretty surprised and pleased with most of my changes, they happened fairly quickly haha. But thus far I've only been misgendered once after starting T. Thank you for the congrats, man!
Quote from: Marcellow on December 21, 2014, 11:10:31 PM
Yeah I know, I'll get one after Christmas. But I can't go too short cause my mother is threatening to have me kicked out because she doesn't want my hair almost bald.
Does she not know you are transitioning?
You are lucky you have thick hair. You should be able to wear some awesome styles! Something to look forward to if you can't cut it the way you might want to right now. :)
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Zombie, you are looking good. I can see you as having passed pre-T.
Quote from: Brett on December 22, 2014, 07:03:39 AM
Does she not know you are transitioning?
You are lucky you have thick hair. You should be able to wear some awesome styles! Something to look forward to if you can't cut it the way you might want to right now. :)
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Zombie, you are looking good. I can see you as having passed pre-T.
She knows, calls me son and stuff but she doesn't understand the importance of a haircut in passing as male and really thinks I'm going to cut my entire hair off. So I'll just shorten the back and sides and then leave the length on top with a side part. Need to use hair product because apparently natural doesn't work for me. Either way, I'm stuck having a baby face with a deep voice since my brother's face didn't masculinized that much from puberty. Still gets carded for alcohol.
Thick hair for the win!
Quote from: Brett on December 22, 2014, 07:03:39 AM
Zombie, you are looking good. I can see you as having passed pre-T.
I passed fairly decently for the most part, until I spoke haha. For the most part, I was taken for a really "pretty" guy.
I'm having fun going through everyone's images.
Marcellow, you're looking pretty good to me! Maybe style your hair a little differently if you can't go shorter, but you've got a nice face shape to work with. :)
Quote from: Marcellow on December 22, 2014, 08:11:46 AM
She knows, calls me son and stuff but she doesn't understand the importance of a haircut in passing as male and really thinks I'm going to cut my entire hair off. So I'll just shorten the back and sides and then leave the length on top with a side part. Need to use hair product because apparently natural doesn't work for me. Either way, I'm stuck having a baby face with a deep voice since my brother's face didn't masculinized that much from puberty. Still gets carded for alcohol.
Thick hair for the win!
lol that's funny that she doesn't want to kick you out for being on hormones or for going through with the transition, but she threatens to kick you out over your hair.
You look good, and I agree with the others that you are somewhere in the middle right now. You're getting there though and the haircut helps a lot!
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4 months on T
My shirt is wrinkled weird in this picture but I'm wearing a tight binder so you can't see my chest.
Quote from: birkin on December 22, 2014, 12:43:38 PM
lol that's funny that she doesn't want to kick you out for being on hormones or for going through with the transition, but she threatens to kick you out over your hair.
You look good, and I agree with the others that you are somewhere in the middle right now. You're getting there though and the haircut helps a lot!
Yeah. I showed her an alternative hairstyle that isn't even OMG short short and she's like they'll shave your sides and back but they'll leave all the length on top, ugly!
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Quote from: Marcellow on December 25, 2014, 06:00:30 PM
Yeah. I showed her an alternative hairstyle that isn't even OMG short short and she's like they'll shave your sides and back but they'll leave all the length on top, ugly!
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I bet this haircut would really work with your hair.
Quote from: Ryan55 on September 05, 2014, 07:14:38 PM
3 and a half months on T
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I like the little bit of facial hair I have so far
Ryan ,You are badss ,so boyish !!!
Quote from: captains on November 27, 2014, 04:06:19 PM
Pass, and I'd guess you were a baby-faced college student. My brain says early 20s, probably because you remind me of me. :D But I suspect you get read as a young teen a lot.
Marcel, you are DEFINITELY looking more masculine between this shot and the last time I saw a pic. Very nice.
Joey .there is no questions ,u passed
Quote from: joeythejoster on November 27, 2014, 07:39:37 PM
Thanks everyone for the reply I appreciate it. You guys were close on my age I'm actually 17. I've also decided to post a picture of my thanksgiving outfit and me without a beanie.
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Here's one with me and my awkward smile. I don't know I feel weird smiling
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you pass too ,conge ,boy!
Quote from: StirfriedKraut on November 30, 2014, 02:21:41 AM
Just wanted to post this. It's from a little over a month ago for my cousins wedding. I'm a naturally very small shouldered person due to a genetic bone defect so I concocted a shoulder padding to help me pass structure-wise until I've managed to help reverse as much of the detrimental damage as I can and gain some muscle mass to compensate. Until now I've made a habit to wear a hoody with the opening wide at the top to give the illusion of broadness. Going along side I have highly load-bearing hips... I may be lucky as hell in regards to androgens, but as they say, hips don't lie. Basically this post is less about my facial appearance but my body. I don't feel fully certain how well i pass due to my hips being so large. Losing weight but the hips will take forever to go away due to my small shoulders :C.
Anyhow what do you think? Yes I am pre-T, and yes I have abnormally high androgen levels due to severe PCOS, but no it's not naturally this dark. I use mascara on my facial hair to darken and thicken it like folks do to their eyelashes, haha. I sense I will likely be a hairy SOB after T, but who knows.
As a side note: yes using my mascara trick passes in public. I use it pretty much every time I leave the house unless I need to go to a doctor or something else that involves me addressing myself by legal name.
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Om,man ,you 100% pass ....what a nice dude
Quote from: Ephemeral on August 27, 2014, 01:36:14 PM
Not 100% honest because I'm standing a bit on the side but whatever... I was told by my shrink whom I had never met prior of starting my transition that she tended to forget I was born female so I guess that's good at least though meh, I still feel my biggest problem are the hips sigh:
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I get this feeling that I look fine if I would just focus on the upper portion of my body but it goes to hell as soon as you move towards the hip area. I also look very broad and masculine on the back for some reason (been doing those push-ups), but this is not at all true on the front. WHY YOU DUMB BODY. Also not wearing a binder here but a sports bra because I ran out of clean ones.
(Also for those wondering what that thingie at the bottom is, it's the top of my cat's ear.)
Here's another I took yesterday when I was trying out new clothes:
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hey ,man ,u r asian and me too and you pass !!!! cheers
Quote from: jossef-ftm on September 22, 2014, 04:21:15 PM
Long time since i posted here, i hope i still pass..i'm not on T yet as always
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Dude you pass !
Quote from: jerr on September 26, 2014, 05:45:27 PM
Hey guys. Just wanted to see how I'm doing so far :D
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circa 2009
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currently
Anyone got any good tips to look your age (not to be interpreted as a school kid)?
Glad to see other asian ,yes you pass man
Quote from: Headsupbuddy on November 23, 2014, 11:44:32 PM
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Ignore the horrible pose oh my god I photograph so awkwardly
Please be honest, especially if you have tips!
I've been on T for about 9 months but haven't had any surgery
I've been thinking about makeup
Just some subtle contouring to try to make my face more male
What do you guys think?
You pass!!!
I'm 4 weeks on T today and so far I don't think anything has really changed.
But I wanted to ask if you guys think I pass better with or without my glasses?
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My hair is really stupid and naturally flicks like that...
Was wanting to let it grow out a bit but I think I might actually just go right a head and cut it again, anyone got any suggestions?
Quote from: Dalex on December 29, 2014, 07:28:05 PM
I'm 4 weeks on T today and so far I don't think anything has really changed.
But I wanted to ask if you guys think I pass better with or without my glasses?
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My hair is really stupid and naturally flicks like that...
Was wanting to let it grow out a bit but I think I might actually just go right a head and cut it again, anyone got any suggestions?
for me you pass better with glasses :)
Quote from: Dalex on December 29, 2014, 07:28:05 PM
I'm 4 weeks on T today and so far I don't think anything has really changed.
But I wanted to ask if you guys think I pass better with or without my glasses?
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My hair is really stupid and naturally flicks like that...
Was wanting to let it grow out a bit but I think I might actually just go right a head and cut it again, anyone got any suggestions?
I think you pass better with glasses too. Your hair looks good as it is or a bit shorter. But it's ultimately what you want to do... Hair can always be cut and always grows back :)
I'm with everyone else, Dalex, the glasses angle out your features and masculinise them.
Since I'm too new to embed photos, I just made a quick 3-pic album on imgur with some Pre-T photos, all with my binder on. The top two are the newest, after I gave myself a new haircut. The popped collar in the last one was a joke, I promise! Haha
http://imgur.com/a/Uq6fL (http://imgur.com/a/Uq6fL)
Aside from wondering if I even pass as well as I think I do, I was wondering if anyone has any tips for me going into T (I'm starting tomorrow) to help me pass even better.
Quote from: AndrewB on December 30, 2014, 10:24:02 AM
I'm with everyone else, Dalex, the glasses angle out your features and masculinise them.
Since I'm too new to embed photos, I just made a quick 3-pic album on imgur with some Pre-T photos, all with my binder on. The top two are the newest, after I gave myself a new haircut. The popped collar in the last one was a joke, I promise! Haha
http://imgur.com/a/Uq6fL (http://imgur.com/a/Uq6fL)
Aside from wondering if I even pass as well as I think I do, I was wondering if anyone has any tips for me going into T (I'm starting tomorrow) to help me pass even better.
i think that you pass in the last picture (just need to change up the hair a little), but the first one is an awkward angle and the second pose....kind of throws me off? it appears feminine, in my opinion. have you tried putting your hair up with wax? not a stiff look, but make it messy and up?
as for t... your body will change on its own, but you could always work out to boost your t levels.
Quote from: palexander on December 30, 2014, 10:35:24 AM
i think that you pass in the last picture (just need to change up the hair a little), but the first one is an awkward angle and the second pose....kind of throws me off? it appears feminine, in my opinion. have you tried putting your hair up with wax? not a stiff look, but make it messy and up?
as for t... your body will change on its own, but you could always work out to boost your t levels.
Yeah I haven't really mastered the art of selfies yet, it's kind of a new development for a less-than-confident creature such as myself. As for the hair, that longer hair in the 3rd pic is gone, replaced by the shorter hair in the top two photos. I wear it a little tousled since it's longer up top, but it doesn't look so great "up" IMO. I actually have been working out on weight machines, every other day, but I had to burn a lot of fat before the muscle or anything would show.
First time I've ever asked this. :-\ I was hope you guys would have some tips for me? I tried taking out my earrings, but I felt that they holes the left in my ears made me look like obvious/trying to hard. I hate my thighs and hips, so I tried to hide them with baggy stuff. And I dunno what's with the odd stance in the last picture. But I tend to hunch when I'm trying to flatten/hide my chest.
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Quote from: AbeLane on December 30, 2014, 05:59:46 PM
First time I've ever asked this. :-\ I was hope you guys would have some tips for me? I tried taking out my earrings, but I felt that they holes the left in my ears made me look like obvious/trying to hard. I hate my thighs and hips, so I tried to hide them with baggy stuff. And I dunno what's with the odd stance in the last picture. But I tend to hunch when I'm trying to flatten/hide my chest.
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try different glasses. i feel like the frames feminize your face.... as for the earrings, do you like studs? if not, maybe smaller hoops? with the baggier clothes your body looks straight so that's working for you! haircut works too, maybe trim it up a bit though?
Quote from: AbeLane on December 30, 2014, 05:59:46 PM
First time I've ever asked this. :-\ I was hope you guys would have some tips for me? I tried taking out my earrings, but I felt that they holes the left in my ears made me look like obvious/trying to hard. I hate my thighs and hips, so I tried to hide them with baggy stuff. And I dunno what's with the odd stance in the last picture. But I tend to hunch when I'm trying to flatten/hide my chest.
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The earrings are ok, they don't "out" you as fem, but gotta agree, get a cut and try diff frames. Otherwise, looking real good :D
Quote from: Dalex on December 29, 2014, 07:28:05 PM
I'm 4 weeks on T today and so far I don't think anything has really changed.
But I wanted to ask if you guys think I pass better with or without my glasses?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10678779_1531056767174070_593293028849530976_n.jpg?oh=274a46d9b9ba0dbe2fa2978489123389&oe=552DE125&__gda__=1426000659_e037900e0b74699e1492012509cda6b2)
My hair is really stupid and naturally flicks like that...
Was wanting to let it grow out a bit but I think I might actually just go right a head and cut it again, anyone got any suggestions?
I think you pass better with your glasses, but even without glasses, i see a guy, a young guy lol but still a guy
ok so I decided to change my hair style lol no longer the frohawk but like this weird combover thing and cut it shorter, let me know what you all think
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the barber I go to, knows I'm trans, I worked with him at lowes actually lol but hes a really cool guy and gave me this cut and did a line up on my little facial hair that I have
Okay, first of all. Dude, jealous of the facial hair.
Secondly, I'm liking this hair style on ya. It looks awesome, seriously.
Very sharp hair. Nice.
Thanks everyone :) I'm very happy to hear that I pass.
Ryan? Holy ->-bleeped-<- dude xD You look awesome, you passed well preT but wow... I'm liking the hair and you are rocking the facial hair :)
thanks guys I appreciate it
This is pointless since I don't take many photos and probably have no shot of passing until I'm on T but oh well. I think I just need better clothes/a better haircut so I can actually feel better about myself (it's shoulder length but I always shove it in a hat)
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Hey Sam, I think short hair would look really good on you and give you at least an andro if not masculine look :)
Ryan: looking good man!
samalert: passable andro, leaning towards M. Def get a short cut.
Thanks guys- that actually made me feel a lot better.
Cheers.
Quote from: samalert on January 04, 2015, 10:17:31 AM
Thanks guys- that actually made me feel a lot better.
Cheers.
We aim to please ;) Often we are our own worst critics. Always feel free to ask around here for help, even with these things that *SEEM* trivial. Really, they are not trivial if they affect you!
aaah hi i was wondering if i passed for male/at least androgynous??
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Quote from: Ryan55 on January 03, 2015, 08:25:42 PM
thanks guys I appreciate it
you so handsome dude ,keep all the good work
i have a new work interview, all my clothes r hoodies or swag clothes i dont have nothing for work its the only clothes i think it will work i'm not sure if i pass here or not so what do you think ( btw i tried to give my self a haircut and now my hair look horrible that's why i'm wearing the hat)
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3 months on T. I'm cursed with a baby face.
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Quote from: Marcellow on January 06, 2015, 11:25:21 AM
3 months on T. I'm cursed with a baby face.
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I think you look quite good, Marcellow! The only thing that would tip me off would be the lips.
Quote from: ImagineKate on January 06, 2015, 12:10:09 PM
I think you look quite good, Marcellow! The only thing that would tip me off would be the lips.
I have lip incompetence and I'm correcting it with braces so my lips are a little swollen like that because I have to forcefully close them.
I wish the lips wouldn't be so naturally colorful. :'(
Quote from: Marcellow on January 06, 2015, 12:32:43 PM
I have lip incompetence and I'm correcting it with braces so my lips are a little swollen like that because I have to forcefully close them.
I wish the lips wouldn't be so naturally colorful. :'(
I hear ya dude. But I think otherwise you pass.
Quote from: Marcellow on January 06, 2015, 11:25:21 AM
3 months on T. I'm cursed with a baby face.
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You'll get there! I think getting the hair off your forehead (like you are in this picture), does make you look more masculine.
jayciffer - I think you definitely pass in the first picture. I dunno if it's the lighting or the hat or what, but you look more androgynous in the second pic to me.
jossef-ftm - I would say pass, for sure. Also your coat it awesome.
Marcellow - I agree with Brett about the hair. I think it makes you look a little older too maybe?
Quote from: Marcellow on January 06, 2015, 11:25:21 AM
3 months on T. I'm cursed with a baby face.
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not bad for 3 months on T, we all have baby faces lol. I wouldn't sweat it. your lips are fine to me also. You pass to me man. looking good.
Thanks guys, I love you all^^
Quote from: jayciffer on January 05, 2015, 03:06:07 AM
aaah hi i was wondering if i passed for male/at least androgynous??
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Straight on shot, dude , you're scaring me, but get your hair trimmed.
The angle shot, looks andro, and I would be less scared.
Head on you have a great crazy guy stare,lol.
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Pre-T. Need a better binder.
Aeryn, to me I would say you pass. You have a bit softer facial features but I still would say masculine :)
Quote from: Dalex on January 07, 2015, 01:16:55 PM
Aeryn, to me I would say you pass. You have a bit softer facial features but I still would say masculine :)
Thanks. I've been trying really hard because I don't want my girlfriend to have to deal with ->-bleeped-<-s when we go out.
Quote from: Marcellow on January 06, 2015, 11:25:21 AM
3 months on T. I'm cursed with a baby face.
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I'm with you there bro... I just keep telling myself I'll be glad for it when I'm 40 and look 30yrs old
Quote from: Marcellow on January 06, 2015, 11:25:21 AM
3 months on T. I'm cursed with a baby face.
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You look fine for 3 months! Water retention tends to cause the "fat face" associated with testosterone; I'm almost at seven months and only now is it starting to deplete. I can relate with the lips issue though. I've put a very fine amount of concealer on mine to make them appear not so red, although it fades pretty quickly and looks kinda dumb. In your case, it doesn't really affect your ability to pass, so no worries.
Quote from: JHeron on January 07, 2015, 04:03:08 PM
I'm with you there bro... I just keep telling myself I'll be glad for it when I'm 40 and look 30yrs old
When you put it like that...I should be grateful. ;D
Quote from: Daft on January 08, 2015, 07:29:17 PM
You look fine for 3 months! Water retention tends to cause the "fat face" associated with testosterone; I'm almost at seven months and only now is it starting to deplete. I can relate with the lips issue though. I've put a very fine amount of concealer on mine to make them appear not so red, although it fades pretty quickly and looks kinda dumb. In your case, it doesn't really affect your ability to pass, so no worries.
I see. I think it's just my webcam because when I look in the mirror in real life, it's not that red. Oh well, it is what it is!
Quote from: mm on October 29, 2014, 07:19:07 PM
Lucaas, You look great in a t-shirt, your chest looks flat like any cis guy your size. Would like to say your size before binding and how you are binding? I am about a b/c and sure would like to look as flat as you do in a t-shirt.
I feel bad that I never replied to this! I'm somewhere around a 34 B, I think. And I haven't measured myself in inches in months and my body shape has been changing, but I still wear a small Underworks binder. Sorry if this is no longer relevant!
http://imgur.com/a/0lVAc/
I'm almost seven months on T, and while I'm not really concerned about passing (I pass completely, I suppose, based on reception) - I'm concerned more about if I pass as my age (18). I've gotten mixed opinions, from people saying I look 15-16, to others saying I look my age. Personally I think I look younger, but I'm curious all the same. And, to be honest, I feel a bit discouraged about how little I've changed, even if people keep saying otherwise...
Also, the last two images are of me, seven days post-shave. My facial hair is sparse and icky, and I kind of want reassurance to keep clean-shaven, because I feel pressured to have some hair in attempts to look like an 18 year old male.
Quote from: Daft on January 09, 2015, 05:18:53 PM
http://imgur.com/a/0lVAc/
I'm almost seven months on T, and while I'm not really concerned about passing (I pass completely, I suppose, based on reception) - I'm concerned more about if I pass age my age (18). I've gotten mixed opinions, from people saying I look 15-16, to others saying I look my age. Personally I think I look younger, but I'm curious all the same. And, to be honest, I feel a bit discouraged about how little I've changed, even if people keep saying otherwise...
Also, the last two images are of me, seven days post-shave. My facial hair is sparse and icky, and I kind of want reassurance to keep clean-shaven, because I feel pressured to have some hair in attempts to look like an 18 year old male.
Without facial hair: 17
With facial hair: 25
So im slowly losing weight, start T next month.
This will be my last picture post pre-t
Here it is (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fw2dcCkr.jpg&hash=a8bed53ff7a81f0570430b4a315637d3fc533ab1)
You guys think T will help me pass?
Quote from: JJones on January 09, 2015, 06:00:19 PM
So im slowly losing weight, start T next month.
This will be my last picture post pre-t
Here it is (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fw2dcCkr.jpg&hash=a8bed53ff7a81f0570430b4a315637d3fc533ab1)
You guys think T will help me pass?
It helps most people pass but it's question of when you will start passing consistently. For you, probably immediately depending on your current voice. If not there yet, it would probably be when your voice drops and how your speech pattern is like.
Quote from: Daft on January 09, 2015, 05:18:53 PM
http://imgur.com/a/0lVAc/
I'm almost seven months on T, and while I'm not really concerned about passing (I pass completely, I suppose, based on reception) - I'm concerned more about if I pass as my age (18). I've gotten mixed opinions, from people saying I look 15-16, to others saying I look my age. Personally I think I look younger, but I'm curious all the same. And, to be honest, I feel a bit discouraged about how little I've changed, even if people keep saying otherwise...
Also, the last two images are of me, seven days post-shave. My facial hair is sparse and icky, and I kind of want reassurance to keep clean-shaven, because I feel pressured to have some hair in attempts to look like an 18 year old male.
Whoa, you look incredible, dude. I like your eyebrows :D ah, I think you look 17 or 18. A bit older in the last two pics.
I got my new binder today its the medium 997 from underworks. I'm about 5'8 141 pounds and still pre-T
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I think it looks nice
Quote from: JJones on January 09, 2015, 06:00:19 PM
So im slowly losing weight, start T next month.
This will be my last picture post pre-t
Here it is (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fw2dcCkr.jpg&hash=a8bed53ff7a81f0570430b4a315637d3fc533ab1)
You guys think T will help me pass?
T will do wonder for you. Although I personally think that your face already passes
Quote from: joeythejoster on January 09, 2015, 10:28:06 PM
T will do wonder for you. Although I personally think that your face already passes
Cheers Joey. I think the haircut helps aswell, with a different hair cut my face still looks quite feminine. So this is my hair cut for the foreseeable future. Plus when I smile properly, that also gives it away.
Looking good in your new binders btw, and I love the shirt.
Marchellow- yea that's more what I meant, to pass all the time. I do sometimes pass now, until I talk and it's quite a big give away. To be honest if my voice was lower I'd probably pass 90% of the time without T. Oh, that and those awful man boobs I have.
JJones - I agree with everyone on this. Your face is passing already and I'm sure T will help with the voice and stuff.
Joey - I agree. You're lookin good!
You guys are inspiring me to get a haircut. :)
Quote from: Marcellow on January 09, 2015, 05:22:31 PM
Without facial hair: 17
With facial hair: 25
Wow, 25? I don't even think I could pass for being 20. Thanks.
Quote from: Jason C on January 09, 2015, 07:10:39 PM
Whoa, you look incredible, dude. I like your eyebrows :D ah, I think you look 17 or 18. A bit older in the last two pics.
Thank you :3 Haha, not the first time I've been complimented on my eyebrows. Funny that the facial hair makes me look older, because I was told by a couple of friends that it's way too scraggly and 'try hard' for someone my age, so it makes me look like a 16 year old, but eh.
All of you look fantastic. I'm really hoping to find a therapist and start T within the year. I hope I get results like you have.
Quote from: Daft on January 10, 2015, 11:10:46 AM
Wow, 25? I don't even think I could pass for being 20. Thanks.
Thank you :3 Haha, not the first time I've been complimented on my eyebrows. Funny that the facial hair makes me look older, because I was told by a couple of friends that it's way too scraggly and 'try hard' for someone my age, so it makes me look like a 16 year old, but eh.
Nah, it depends on the individual. My brother is 19 and has been blessed with good facial hair genes, haha, but even his is patchy in some places. Facial hair takes a good few years to grow to its full potential anyway, so it's one of those things that differs person-to-person.
Quote from: joeythejoster on January 09, 2015, 10:23:58 PM
I got my new binder today its the medium 997 from underworks. I'm about 5'8 141 pounds and still pre-T
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I think it looks nice
Definitely pass to me, and your hair looks cool. And I like your shirt :D
Hi
I don't pass (99% of the time). What do you think I can do with my hair or something to pass better ?
please don't quote the link of the picture I would take it off later
Link removed by mods per request.
Quote from: ka on January 11, 2015, 12:01:34 PM
Hi
I don't pass (99% of the time). What do you think I can do with my hair or something to pass better ?
please don't quote the link of the picture I would take it off later
Hey Ka don't be so hard on yourself I think your face looks pretty masculine to me. I'd say maybe going a little bit longer on the sides it would help masculinize your jaw line a bit more. You and I actually have similar haircuts expect I keep my hair a tad bit longer. I usually ask my barber for a 3 or 4 on the sides and about 2 maybe 3 inches of the top. The shorter your hair is the more attention it's going to bring to your facial features. Also undercuts FTW!!!
Thanks for your advice. And what do you think about junction ? (I'm not sure of the translate, but hairs between the side and the top, I can't say if it's better or not with junction...)
(I say that about my passing because people say madam to me most of the time)
Quote from: ka on January 11, 2015, 02:07:20 PM
Thanks for your advice. And what do you think about junction ? (I'm not sure of the translate, but hairs between the side and the top, I can't say if it's better or not with junction...)
(I say that about my passing because people say madam to me most of the time)
You mean like a disconnected undercut. That could work but I'd say grow out the top a bit more since you'll need extra space to cut in between. You might want to fade the sides a bit too. Don't sweat it just experiment around. Before I found my current haircut I had this terrible Justin Bieber cut that just didn't work for me. Don't be afraid to talk to your barber or stylist. Bring a picture too of what you might want trust me a visual helps a lot.
Quote from: joeythejoster on January 11, 2015, 02:38:17 PM
You mean like a disconnected undercut. That could work but I'd say grow out the top a bit more since you'll need extra space to cut in between. You might want to fade the sides a bit too. Don't sweat it just experiment around. Before I found my current haircut I had this terrible Justin Bieber cut that just didn't work for me. Don't be afraid to talk to your barber or stylist. Bring a picture too of what you might want trust me a visual helps a lot.
Yes disconnected undercut !
Ok I will ask next time a little bit longer on the top.
Thanks
Quote from: ka on January 11, 2015, 02:49:23 PM
Yes disconnected undercut !
Ok I will ask next time a little bit longer on the top.
Thanks
Hey Ka, yeah, I was also going to suggest to try and go a bit longer on top and possibly on the sides as well. I'm sure you'll find a good style :)
Quote from: Abysha on January 11, 2015, 09:26:05 PM
Yep, hah! I just noticed. Sorry, everybody! I'll correct it.
Haha, no problem. Looking good anyway :D
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hi hi hi hi hi hi hi
Quote from: Devu on January 13, 2015, 09:09:24 PM
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hi hi hi hi hi hi hi
Total pass to me :D are you on T? Also, your piercings are so cool, did they hurt?
Hey, since I last put a pic up on here, I made a bit of changes! (so far this thread has really helped improve my look thanks!!! )
ive recently started T so not much changes left, however My voice instantly began deepening straight away (I noticed that when trying to sing one of my favorite songs and couldn't hit the high notes no more but able to hit the low notes now)
Anyway, How am I looking so far? (still bad at taking selfies)
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Looking good BlueGemFox!
Quote from: Jason C on January 13, 2015, 11:26:07 PM
Total pass to me :D are you on T? Also, your piercings are so cool, did they hurt?
Thanks. :D Yeah, I've restarted T since the 19th of November. The septum piercing hurt the most!
Thanks brett! I hate the way my shirt pulls at the bottom but unbuttoning it makes it more noticeable, hopefully T will help with that
Quote from: BlueGemFox on January 14, 2015, 08:36:26 AM
Thanks brett! I hate the way my shirt pulls at the bottom but unbuttoning it makes it more noticeable, hopefully T will help with that
why don't you try going up a size? nearly 3 months on t and i had to go from a medium to a large shirt. from my shoulders broadening so much (they were already broad to begin with, though) and i think i grew a little more, my shirts were too short/tight.
Looking good, guys! Fox, you're lucky for experiencing a deep voice so quickly; I thought mine was changing a few days after my shot but it turned into a cold -- just my luck!
Anyhow, here's some headshots from the bus stop, as my face is kind of my big concern; I'm a stocky guy, so I can play a binding bulge off as a barrelled chest like my dad's.
http://imgur.com/a/TeTFv (http://imgur.com/a/TeTFv)
How am I doing? Would you look twice at me if you didn't know?
Quote from: Devu on January 13, 2015, 09:09:24 PM
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hi hi hi hi hi hi hi
You definitely pass.
Quote from: AndrewB on January 15, 2015, 09:58:40 AM
Looking good, guys! Fox, you're lucky for experiencing a deep voice so quickly; I thought mine was changing a few days after my shot but it turned into a cold -- just my luck!
Anyhow, here's some headshots from the bus stop, as my face is kind of my big concern; I'm a stocky guy, so I can play a binding bulge off as a barrelled chest like my dad's.
http://imgur.com/a/TeTFv (http://imgur.com/a/TeTFv)
How am I doing? Would you look twice at me if you didn't know?
You look good, dude. I'd have no second thoughts if I were to see you. Your eyebrows and haircut definitely read off as male to me, if that isn't weird to say. Congrats on starting T by the way, and considering how well you pass for someone so early on hormones, it'll be interesting to see what hormones do for you in a few months.
Quote from: Daft on January 15, 2015, 12:33:19 PM
You look good, dude. I'd have no second thoughts if I were to see you. Your eyebrows and haircut definitely read off as male to me, if that isn't weird to say. Congrats on starting T by the way, and considering how well you pass for someone so early on hormones, it'll be interesting to see what hormones do for you in a few months.
Thanks, man! I gave myself that haircut a while back, since the one I had before it was
just long enough to be read as andro or questionably female. Now the only thing that needs work is my voice, I guess, and it's getting there. Too bad you can't see my large quantities of face fluff in photos yet. ;)
Got new glasses. Not sure if they help.
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Quote from: palexander on January 15, 2015, 09:17:43 AM
why don't you try going up a size? nearly 3 months on t and i had to go from a medium to a large shirt. from my shoulders broadening so much (they were already broad to begin with, though) and i think i grew a little more, my shirts were too short/tight.
I should try that, I am already a medium in shirts myself, but they fit my shoulders perfectly (but my shoulders are also pretty broad to begin with too) hopefully bigger shirts dont hang over my hips too much, im a pretty short guy
Quote from: AndrewB on January 15, 2015, 09:58:40 AM
Looking good, guys! Fox, you're lucky for experiencing a deep voice so quickly; I thought mine was changing a few days after my shot but it turned into a cold -- just my luck!
Anyhow, here's some headshots from the bus stop, as my face is kind of my big concern; I'm a stocky guy, so I can play a binding bulge off as a barrelled chest like my dad's.
http://imgur.com/a/TeTFv (http://imgur.com/a/TeTFv)
How am I doing? Would you look twice at me if you didn't know?
Im actually getting over a cold myself, particularly laryngitis, so that could also be a factor. though my doctor noticed a change so its most definitely deepening then (slowly haha)
Also you look very very similar to a cis male friend of mine, I say you're passing pretty well!
Bought a hair product to keep my hair up like this.
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DragonBeer, you pass to me. I used to have my hair like that, and I've found that it's great for passing.
It's been a while, and I dyed my hair a couple months ago. I pass way less now. Sigh.. but at least I've made some muscle gains which make me feel happy. Also, please don't quote the picture as I want to take it down later. Thanks guys. If you have any advice what to do about my hair that is also welcome.
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DragonBeer, dude especially with the product your new cut looks great!!!
Maleth, I dig the blonde. And I think you pass for a young guy. Like 15 or so. Your face has great angles, so time will definitely get you there. Are you on T?
Hello everyone! I am currently a little over 4 months on T and I've had more and more problems passing. I feel like my face is pretty masculine but I've asked my friends if they can see anything. I don't know if they're trying to save my feelings or not (I told them be harsh) but they keep saying that my build is so masculine that they really have no idea how anyone sees girl and they all thought I was cis until I told them. So I figured you guys would be able to be harsher on me than them. These are the two things I'm usually wearing.
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I would say the biggest reason that would get you gendered as female would be your hair. I really advise not dying it at all until your face masculinizes more and even then, I wouldn't dye it that color because dying your hair in artificial colors is generally regarded as a female thing. Also, keep your bangs from falling on your face (blow dry your hair up a bit and use some pomade to keep it up).
Quote from: DragonBeer on January 18, 2015, 01:45:05 PM
I would say the biggest reason that would get you gendered as female would be your hair. I really advise not dying it at all until your face masculinizes more and even then, I wouldn't dye it that color because dying your hair in artificial colors is generally regarded as a female thing. Also, keep your bangs from falling on your face (blow dry your hair up a bit and use some pomade to keep it up).
I'm at art school now and there are equal numbers of male and female people with dyed hair. Also the dye won't come out now. Like I can't get it to wash out even if I wanted, red is hard to get rid of.
Also, my hairline isn't masculine enough to put my bangs up. That's why they're down :/ It's changing but it's still not masculine enough at all.
Quote from: CursedFireDean on January 18, 2015, 02:03:51 PM
I'm at art school now and there are equal numbers of male and female people with dyed hair. Also the dye won't come out now. Like I can't get it to wash out even if I wanted, red is hard to get rid of.
Also, my hairline isn't masculine enough to put my bangs up. That's why they're down :/ It's changing but it's still not masculine enough at all.
If that's the case, then it could be your voice and how you speak. It's not enough to have a deep voice. And I thought that too about my hairline but my recent haircut and keeping my hair away from my face made a world of difference in passing. Some people in my own building don't recognize me anymore.
Anyways, it's all a matter of what's important: passing to others or just portraying yourself how you want. If people say ma'am, you can just correct them. :)
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I'm the short one here :) pre t in the picture but I look the same now anyways.
I don't get misgendered that often but I get mistaken for being much younger than my age. (19)
Dragonbeer. Excellent choice on the hair gel. You are becoming quite the handsome guy!
Dean, I remember your old pictures (or at least one) and I am confident in saying that your face looks more masculine now. I concur with Dragon, you can't do anything that people could perceive as female until you pass (hair color, earrings). Even if guys do it, our subconscious hit female first as soon as we see it. THEN we look at bit to decide if the person is male or female.
I think I look more male when I sweep my hair back too even though my hairline is female still. I do know though that convention is to tell guys to keep hair on their forehead.
Thanks Kam, I appreciate the input! I'm gonna keep my pic up for just a bit longer incase anyone has any suggestions for passing with dyed hair.
Quote from: DragonBeer on January 18, 2015, 01:45:05 PM
...dying your hair in artificial colors is generally regarded as a female thing.
This is something I struggle with because I have bleached a streak of my hair. It's reduced my passing level but as long as I'm confident nobody questions me :p
Dean, you pass to me with no problem though. Your face is really masculine. Though I would have to also weigh your mannerisms and how you speak if I were to judge in person.
Maleth, you are going to be a really hot dude when you get on testosterone. That chin is going to get so chiseled you will be able to...I don't know what to say here...cut glass? Anyway, I think your face shape will look like society's definition of very masculine.
Quote from: CursedFireDean on January 18, 2015, 01:19:41 PM
Hello everyone! I am currently a little over 4 months on T and I've had more and more problems passing.
Wow Dean I think you look great. Congrats! Your face is turning out well.
I agree voice might contribute. Also, you may not pass cause I could see how someone could assume butch lesbian at first given trendy hair and hoodies. Especially at an art school....
Don't worry about it, give it time.
I'm about 3 months on T. I don't usually try to smile in pictures because it makes me feel more feminine/younger, but I kind of liked this one.
http://imgur.com/b8BQgzU (http://imgur.com/b8BQgzU)
Ah I can't believe I'm actually posting something here... I don't think I pass at all, not trying very hard to right now either, but.. you guys think I could possibly pass?
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Will probably take this photo down in a while..
Quote from: darkblade on January 20, 2015, 12:39:08 PM
Ah I can't believe I'm actually posting something here... I don't think I pass at all, not trying very hard to right now either, but.. you guys think I could possibly pass?
I think you actually look like ... a normal guy :). I wish I could mould my face to look as masculine :D.
Is this the haircut you mentioned? I'm wondering if a bit of gel might help with it!
Edit: maybe style it a bit like this: https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ3LYjbBxrX3qdp3dJeP0RhhYlWHst1zazwndg8GrOQj_Vi7hh5
Quote from: Brett on January 18, 2015, 09:17:05 PM
Maleth, you are going to be a really hot dude when you get on testosterone. That chin is going to get so chiseled you will be able to...I don't know what to say here...cut glass? Anyway, I think your face shape will look like society's definition of very masculine.
Thanks Brett. =D
@lionheart; You seem andro to me but leaning towards male. :)
@Darkblade; For me personally andro depending how deep your voice is but you have quite a masculine face!
Quote from: CursedFireDean on January 18, 2015, 01:19:41 PM
Hello everyone! I am currently a little over 4 months on T and I've had more and more problems passing. I feel like my face is pretty masculine but I've asked my friends if they can see anything. I don't know if they're trying to save my feelings or not (I told them be harsh) but they keep saying that my build is so masculine that they really have no idea how anyone sees girl and they all thought I was cis until I told them. So I figured you guys would be able to be harsher on me than them. These are the two things I'm usually wearing.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXkuMHOO.jpg&hash=0279c854a1722b1344636965b2b5bc596ad3c018) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5Wc0fiv.jpg&hash=53eb976579ec3c1e1c61461f5800243af2e0077a)
you look pretty masculine to me in all honesty...especially compared to your icon. i agree with comments above, stick to your natural hair color.
Quote from: adrian on January 20, 2015, 01:13:50 PM
I think you actually look like ... a normal guy :). I wish I could mould my face to look as masculine :D.
Is this the haircut you mentioned? I'm wondering if a bit of gel might help with it!
Edit: maybe style it a bit like this: https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ3LYjbBxrX3qdp3dJeP0RhhYlWHst1zazwndg8GrOQj_Vi7hh5
Quote from: Maleth on January 20, 2015, 04:11:32 PM
@Darkblade; For me personally andro depending how deep your voice is but you have quite a masculine face!
Thanks guys xD yeah this is the haircut that's stressing me out so much, though this is right after a shower it's the best it looks I guess, but I haven't experimented much with styling it, I probably should. My voice is pretty feminine I would say :( though people tell me it's neither particularly feminine nor masculine. Now if only I could lose some of my cheeks..
I'm probably going to regret posting this... The first pic is one I took yday and had just come back from the barbers. The bottom is of my old haircut
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/129248707@N07/(//)
Quote from: Elis on January 21, 2015, 04:30:26 AM
I'm probably going to regret posting this... The first pic is one I took yday and had just come back from the barbers. The bottom is of my old haircut
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/129248707@N07/(//)
the new haircut compliments your jaw/cheekbones, but i feel like your glasses aren't working.
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the new haircut compdon'tnts your jaw/cheekbones, but i feel like your glasses aren't working.
Thanks and yeah I know my glasses are a bit too wide. These were the best that I tried on, but I don't think my face suits wearing glasses.
Looking good, Elis! I also think the glasses are OK (I know how difficult it is to find a good pair [emoji13] )
Quote from: Elis on January 21, 2015, 04:30:26 AM
I'm probably going to regret posting this... The first pic is one I took yday and had just come back from the barbers. The bottom is of my old haircut
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/129248707@N07/(//)
Man, you look fantastic with that new haircut!
It really does compliment your facial structure
The glasses aren't BAD although there's probably better frames somewhere, for now they're not detrimental at all!
Quote from: adrian on January 22, 2015, 12:36:33 AM
Looking good, Elis! I also think the glasses are OK (I know how difficult it is to find a good pair [emoji13] )
Thanks Adrian :D.
Quote from: Taius on January 23, 2015, 01:21:02 AM
Man, you look fantastic with that new haircut!
It really does compliment your facial structure
The glasses aren't BAD although there's probably better frames somewhere, for now they're not detrimental at all!
Thanks Taius, I just need to be able to style it as good as the barber now :D
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Feeling crummy and really dysphoric.
Quote from: AlexW on January 26, 2015, 06:40:43 PM
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Feeling crummy and really dysphoric.
Face passes but I think you need a new hairstyle. I don't think that fits you, I think you need something with one single side part.
I would also recommending trimming the sideburns.
I agree with the hairstyle change, other than that you look fantastic :)
Been feeling rather dysphoric lately and feeling like I am not managing to bind proper and such. Guess it didn't really help being constantly refereed to as my birth name and she for an entire day at an event after being out and living as myself for a year. But, been on T now for 2 months and I was wondering if I pass?
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Please don't quote the picture, planning to go back and edit it out of the post.
Quote from: Dalex on January 27, 2015, 03:02:19 PM
Been feeling rather dysphoric lately and feeling like I am not managing to bind proper and such. Guess it didn't really help being constantly refereed to as my birth name and she for an entire day at an event after being out and living as myself for a year. But, been on T now for 2 months and I was wondering if I pass?
Please don't quote the picture, planning to go back and edit it out of the post.
Sad to say this but you don't pass. It's not really the clothes but the hair and the glasses. So if passing is very important to you, you're going to need to go a bit shorter and not have large bangs covering your face. I had the bangs and I wasn't passing until I got my recent haircut and using pomade to have the hair not falling on my face. Made a huge difference.
Quote from: DragonBeer on January 27, 2015, 03:32:22 PM
Sad to say this but you don't pass. It's not really the clothes but the hair and the glasses. So if passing is very important to you, you're going to need to go a bit shorter and not have large bangs covering your face. I had the bangs and I wasn't passing until I got my recent haircut and using pomade to have the hair not falling on my face. Made a huge difference.
I'm actually working on getting the top of my hair a bit more trimmed. I cut it shorter since it was getting rather long and messy, but they left a bit too much at the top, seeing if a friend of mine is up for cutting and fixing it up. Can't replace the glasses though since I don't have the money for it and those are actually men's so :P Better then the pink glasses I had before :P Don't wear the glasses all the time, but this is the first time someone comments about the glasses. Been told I actually pass better with them then without because I have rather large eyes and long eye lashes, or so I was told and that wearing glasses makes me less soft and 'toony', not sure what they meant with that :P
Quote from: Dalex on January 27, 2015, 04:06:54 PM
I'm actually working on getting the top of my hair a bit more trimmed. I cut it shorter since it was getting rather long and messy, but they left a bit too much at the top, seeing if a friend of mine is up for cutting and fixing it up. Can't replace the glasses though since I don't have the money for it and those are actually men's so :P Better then the pink glasses I had before :P Don't wear the glasses all the time, but this is the first time someone comments about the glasses. Been told I actually pass better with them then without because I have rather large eyes and long eye lashes, or so I was told and that wearing glasses makes me less soft and 'toony', not sure what they meant with that :P
I see. I'm just going by what I see in a picture but yeah, you definitely need a haircut. :P
I think you pass great, I don't know what the other people are talking about. The hair needs to be trimmed but that and the glasses are working.
I think you pass OK, albeit as a very young guy, maybe 15-ish.
I do get what some folks don't like about the glasses: the squareness of them is good, but they're too large for your face, and I think they emphasize its roundness and make it look more delicate than it should. And yeah, the hair would be better off your face more; at least, swept more off to the side with a bit of a part.
Dalex, I think that you are looking good. I would say that you pass better in this picture than the ones you have posted in the past. I think you are off to a good start!
Thanks everyone :)
Finally got my hair cut short.. I actually think this is a pretty decent step forward.. Even if the whole masculine thing is out of the question probably.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgyazo.com%2F2fe6f9e58ceb9c7d799bf9bea862890f.png&hash=fea2f6d4e14e16d4767dada05af66e4305af6c66)
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With and without glasses because I guess I look a bit different..
Quote from: samalert on February 04, 2015, 09:48:12 PM
Finally got my hair cut short.. I actually think this is a pretty decent step forward.. Even if the whole masculine thing is out of the question probably.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgyazo.com%2F2fe6f9e58ceb9c7d799bf9bea862890f.png&hash=fea2f6d4e14e16d4767dada05af66e4305af6c66)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgyazo.com%2Ff2201f32257d3329cb4f20fbce363289.png&hash=51a696e2d9efdd45ea0954508cb3b13494cc423c)
With and without glasses because I guess I look a bit different..
definitely more of a pass without the glasses. i'd recommend parting your hair to one side. try experimenting and see which makes you feel most confident :) also congrats on the cut!
Quote from: samalert on February 04, 2015, 09:48:12 PM
Finally got my hair cut short.. I actually think this is a pretty decent step forward.. Even if the whole masculine thing is out of the question probably.
The new cut definitely suits you! I'd also say you look more masculine without the glasses.
Do I pass?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi296.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm172%2Fllatimeremployment%2Fme%2FP2070005_zpsgnmaongn.jpg&hash=4442e7bea7c850427d2f28f16bd4c0e7c8647169) (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/llatimeremployment/media/me/P2070005_zpsgnmaongn.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi296.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm172%2Fllatimeremployment%2Fme%2FP2070002_zpsr4v0cfvi.jpg&hash=aca6f8bcc6d12fda8bc031c97fcc964d84dc90be) (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/llatimeremployment/media/me/P2070002_zpsr4v0cfvi.jpg.html)
Quote from: NightOwl18 on February 07, 2015, 04:45:09 AM
Do I pass?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi296.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm172%2Fllatimeremployment%2Fme%2FP2070005_zpsgnmaongn.jpg&hash=4442e7bea7c850427d2f28f16bd4c0e7c8647169) (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/llatimeremployment/media/me/P2070005_zpsgnmaongn.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi296.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm172%2Fllatimeremployment%2Fme%2FP2070002_zpsr4v0cfvi.jpg&hash=aca6f8bcc6d12fda8bc031c97fcc964d84dc90be) (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/llatimeremployment/media/me/P2070002_zpsr4v0cfvi.jpg.html)
Definitely, you look like a cis guy, there's nothing you should change.
Quote from: Elis on February 07, 2015, 05:37:18 AM
Definitely, you look like a cis guy, there's nothing you should change.
+1
Quote from: NightOwl18 on February 07, 2015, 04:45:09 AM
Do I pass?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi296.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm172%2Fllatimeremployment%2Fme%2FP2070005_zpsgnmaongn.jpg&hash=4442e7bea7c850427d2f28f16bd4c0e7c8647169) (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/llatimeremployment/media/me/P2070005_zpsgnmaongn.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi296.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm172%2Fllatimeremployment%2Fme%2FP2070002_zpsr4v0cfvi.jpg&hash=aca6f8bcc6d12fda8bc031c97fcc964d84dc90be) (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/llatimeremployment/media/me/P2070002_zpsr4v0cfvi.jpg.html)
Total pass. You remind me of Neville Longbottom in the last movie of Harry Potter series. Both very handsome guys.
Quote from: NightOwl18 on February 07, 2015, 04:45:09 AM
Do I pass?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi296.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm172%2Fllatimeremployment%2Fme%2FP2070005_zpsgnmaongn.jpg&hash=4442e7bea7c850427d2f28f16bd4c0e7c8647169) (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/llatimeremployment/media/me/P2070005_zpsgnmaongn.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi296.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm172%2Fllatimeremployment%2Fme%2FP2070002_zpsr4v0cfvi.jpg&hash=aca6f8bcc6d12fda8bc031c97fcc964d84dc90be) (http://s296.photobucket.com/user/llatimeremployment/media/me/P2070002_zpsr4v0cfvi.jpg.html)
Dude, your eyes grab me. Quite the striking gaze into the camera there! Yes, you pass.
And now for the current patch version of myself.
Lorenz 1.1.2.3.41.2.3 (or something like that... geek humour... ::) )
(https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/1796523_10152577422261507_3245298913852822419_n.jpg?oh=045056de4fab72accfdf4ffc1531e2a8&oe=556398C9)
This is who I looked at in the mirror earlier today and felt at home and as I have ALWAYS been inside.
Quote from: LoriLorenz on February 08, 2015, 06:41:22 PM
And now for the current patch version of myself.
Lorenz 1.1.2.3.41.2.3 (or something like that... geek humour... ::) )
(https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/1796523_10152577422261507_3245298913852822419_n.jpg?oh=045056de4fab72accfdf4ffc1531e2a8&oe=556398C9)
This is who I looked at in the mirror earlier today and felt at home and as I have ALWAYS been inside.
woah, you look different from the angle of your profile picture. your facial structure is very masculine to me. although you dislike how lanky you are, it definitely is in your favor. :)
LoriLorenz, your face is very masculine. I'd look at someone funny if they called you "she".
4 months on T now. 8 more to go!
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Quote from: Evan of Spades on February 08, 2015, 09:44:50 PM
LoriLorenz, your face is very masculine. I'd look at someone funny if they called you "she".
AWESOME! If I could +1 this about a million times I would! Thanks for the confidence boost Evan.
Quote from: palexander on February 08, 2015, 07:42:18 PM
woah, you look different from the angle of your profile picture. your facial structure is very masculine to me. although you dislike how lanky you are, it definitely is in your favor. :)
My face structure is something that bugs the heck out of me some days, my jaw is (as part of my medical mumbo jumbo) not even on both sides, making my profile from each side very different. My family is all lanky, but I'm currently underweight! Great for masculine features, not so much for healthy. :o But thanks, gald to know it helps ;D
I think i am forever cursed to look like I'm 10. Looool.
Pre T
http://imgur.com/qgR72I9
http://imgur.com/qVBYcWb
2 weeks on T
http://imgur.com/qUDD17J
Currently 2 months on T
http://imgur.com/sSk52KN
How'd I go?
Quote from: Lunarwings on February 11, 2015, 10:49:58 PM
I think i am forever cursed to look like I'm 10. Looool.
Pre T
http://imgur.com/qgR72I9
http://imgur.com/qVBYcWb
2 weeks on T
http://imgur.com/qUDD17J
Currently 2 months on T
http://imgur.com/sSk52KN
How'd I go?
I think you look very passable and not at all like a ten year old :D
Quote from: Elis on February 11, 2015, 10:58:54 PM
I think you look very passable and not at all like a ten year old :D
Yay thanks! =D. If you don't mind me asking, how old do I look?(i said 10 because people think I'm a schoolkid alot of times) Lol
Quote from: Lunarwings on February 11, 2015, 10:49:58 PM
I think i am forever cursed to look like I'm 10. Looool.
Pre T
http://imgur.com/qgR72I9
http://imgur.com/qVBYcWb
2 weeks on T
http://imgur.com/qUDD17J
Currently 2 months on T
http://imgur.com/sSk52KN
How'd I go?
Lookin good man. The second pic on the list here is probably the best of the bunch actually! (Goofy faces make us ALL look a little child-like ;) )
Quote from: LoriLorenz on February 11, 2015, 11:50:14 PM
Lookin good man. The second pic on the list here is probably the best of the bunch actually! (Goofy faces make us ALL look a little child-like ;) )
Cheers bro! =D it's just so hard trying to stop myself from making goofy faces at a camera though! XD (I am silly/crazy like that lol)
Quote from: Lunarwings on February 11, 2015, 11:21:29 PM
Yay thanks! =D. If you don't mind me asking, how old do I look?(i said 10 because people think I'm a schoolkid alot of times) Lol
From the last one I'd say 17ish, sorry if that may be younger than your real age still, I'm bad at judging ages :D
Hey guys, Riley here.
This was one of the first threads I checked out when I get here, and I was hoping I could get a little help.
I'm pretty happy with how I'm passing, I'm 14 months T so I'm safe most of the time. The problem is I've got this mop of hair..
(https://36.media.tumblr.com/d518367b37e1f935a3ef05188ddb8f76/tumblr_njnwoeML521u7q7vmo1_250.jpg)(mind the face)(https://40.media.tumblr.com/256c6df315cbdea70db933f25162f3f8/tumblr_njnwoeML521u7q7vmo3_250.jpg)
.. and I honestly have no idea what to do with it.
I've been to scared to change it since starting T because I don't want to go back to not passing again. Before I started, I used to love my hair, it was always my best feature. I still do love my hair, as thick and naturally red as it is, it's just not the best when I'm trying not to look like a bogan.
The other problem is, I'm almost 18 and I'm fairly sure I look about 15 when my hair is all floppy like this.
Anyhow, any opinions on the hair situation and on my passing in general would be sweet and greatly appreciated. :)
Cheers all,
Quote from: Tripdistrans on February 12, 2015, 08:27:48 AM
Hey guys, Riley here.
This was one of the first threads I checked out when I get here, and I was hoping I could get a little help.
I'm pretty happy with how I'm passing, I'm 14 months T so I'm safe most of the time. The problem is I've got this mop of hair..
(https://36.media.tumblr.com/d518367b37e1f935a3ef05188ddb8f76/tumblr_njnwoeML521u7q7vmo1_250.jpg)(mind the face)(https://40.media.tumblr.com/256c6df315cbdea70db933f25162f3f8/tumblr_njnwoeML521u7q7vmo3_250.jpg)
.. and I honestly have no idea what to do with it.
I've been to scared to change it since starting T because I don't want to go back to not passing again. Before I started, I used to love my hair, it was always my best feature. I still do love my hair, as thick and naturally red as it is, it's just not the best when I'm trying not to look like a bogan.
The other problem is, I'm almost 18 and I'm fairly sure I look about 15 when my hair is all floppy like this.
Anyhow, any opinions on the hair situation and on my passing in general would be sweet and greatly appreciated. :)
Cheers all,
You pass really well, I don't think there are any hairstyles you can get that'll make you look female. You could try this for hairstyle ideas https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=undercuts+for+curly+hair+men&client=ms-android-h3g-gb&hl=en-GB&biw=360&bih=615&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=R8ncVJz3EtXkaqfvgqAG&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ(//) or this http://ftmguide.rassaku.net/(//)
Quote from: Lunarwings on February 11, 2015, 10:49:58 PM
I think i am forever cursed to look like I'm 10. Looool.
Pre T
http://imgur.com/qgR72I9
http://imgur.com/qVBYcWb
2 weeks on T
http://imgur.com/qUDD17J
Currently 2 months on T
http://imgur.com/sSk52KN
How'd I go?
major face changes will (typically) happen between 8 months and year, so don't lose hope :)
Quote from: Elis on February 12, 2015, 09:46:43 AM
You pass really well, I don't think there are any hairstyles you can get that'll make you look female. You could try this for hairstyle ideas https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=undercuts+for+curly+hair+men&client=ms-android-h3g-gb&hl=en-GB&biw=360&bih=615&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=R8ncVJz3EtXkaqfvgqAG&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ or this http://ftmguide.rassaku.net/(//)
Thank you very much, that's always a great thing to hear. :)
I a had an undercut going on for a few years before T, and I always kind of just thought my face was too short and round, but perhaps it may be time to give it another go.
Also, thank you so much for thank link. I've never actually seen this guide before, it's really good.
Quote from: Elis on February 12, 2015, 03:21:27 AM
From the last one I'd say 17ish, sorry if that may be younger than your real age still, I'm bad at judging ages :D
Still a ways to go for me then xD am turning 26 this year loool.
@LoriLorenz, @DragonBeer, @Lunarwings: You guys all pass to me.
@Tripdistrans: A little hard to tell. But you do look masculine. I DO like the long hair. Maybe just try styling it to pass better...?
Sorry, if I missed anyone. You guys all look great!
Quote from: Dominick_81 on February 12, 2015, 08:33:16 PM
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@Tripdistrans: A little hard to tell. But you do look masculine. I DO like the long hair. Maybe just try styling it to pass better...?
Sorry, if I missed anyone. You guys all look great!
The selfies are mediocre with this one.
I will admit, I do love having a mop on my head, it's definitely a signature part of me, but I cannot express how annoyingly thick it is. Styling becomes a three hour task that ends in a hat a lot of the time. The other thing I forgot to mention is that I've got a promotion coming up (okay so I'll be a crew trainer at McDonald's, but that counts right?) and the uniform for that position doesn't include a hat.
However, after the suggesiton of an undercut from @Elis, and the confidence boost in my mop from yourself (ty), I'm pondering whether or not it would safe to go with a Matt Healy style cut? However, my fringe would probably be cut slightly shorter than his (which is quite long) so that I can at times actually wear it over my face. (For someone reason I enjoy the bogan look?)
Simply to demonstrate the cut itself, here is his beautiful head.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F37.media.tumblr.com%2Ff5f10a558ae8878de966fd4f5969f5e3%2Ftumblr_n47mmrULaP1tx22j5o1_250.jpg&hash=d1af0aeafcbdebda2eea1ff073cebec5cfde9933)
Copy paste that cut to the other side of his head aswell.
I've shaved the sides of my head in the past, so I would shave it down gradually to see what looks best.
Once again, any opinons are greatly appreciated.
Tripdistrans, I think you could get away with the hairstyle with your job, I've seen lots of hairstyles at fastfood places. I think it'll also give you a masculine or at least androgynous appearance without needing much time for maintenance.
Good luck
Do you know about the internet meme called Duck Hunting?????
Quote from: Tripdistrans on February 12, 2015, 08:27:48 AM(https://40.media.tumblr.com/256c6df315cbdea70db933f25162f3f8/tumblr_njnwoeML521u7q7vmo3_250.jpg)
BANG!!! Caught another ducky! ;)
;D
But truly, a disconnected undercut will help to masculinize your face a bit more. Hopefully this will help age you appropriately. Yay for framing and optical illusions! Otherwise, a pass!
@DriftingCrow
I think one of the biggest helpers will be having the ability to just man-bun it for work if it gets too wild. It will also work perfectly for after surgery when its time to hit the town in stunning dresses and high heels.
@LoriLorenz
Im not going to try and argue with that, I did ponder whether a duck face was worth it just to emphasise my babystache. (It was.)
Thank you both, and everyone else, for the luck and the feedback. Next step is the Salon, woo! :)
Quote from: Tripdistrans on February 12, 2015, 08:27:48 AM
Hey guys, Riley here.
This was one of the first threads I checked out when I get here, and I was hoping I could get a little help.
I'm pretty happy with how I'm passing, I'm 14 months T so I'm safe most of the time. The problem is I've got this mop of hair..
.. and I honestly have no idea what to do with it.
Anyhow, any opinions on the hair situation and on my passing in general would be sweet and greatly appreciated. :)
Cheers all,
You might be able to pull something like this off http://menshairstylesguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Shaggy-Messy-Hairstyles-for-Men-in-2014.jpg
But i'd second the undercut(i think its one of the 'in' things nowadays)
Quote from: Tripdistrans link=topic=170914.msg1623327#msg1623327 daise=1423784712
Thank you very much, that's always a great thing to hear. :)
I a had an undercut going on for a few years before T, and I always kind of just thought my face was too short and round, but perhaps it may be time to give it another go.
Also, thank you so much for thank link. I've never actually seen this guide before, it's really good.
Glad I helped. I didn't think an undercut would suit me bcos my face is also round, but it actually works. There are so many styles of undercut, you just have to go to a good barber who knows what will suit you best. About your chosen hairstyle idea, it's a bit 'out there' but haven't seen that hairatyle on anyone before. Post a pic if you get it done :)
@Lunarwings
I can style my hair like that at the moment with a lot of patience and product, aha. My hair just hates product, I've never found anything that will actually hold it.
In Australia, it is hard to find a male between the age of 10 and 20 that DOESN'T have an undercut..
@Elis
I'm hoping that since I've been on T a while that will help. My mother pointed out to me just before that an undercut would suit me a lot better now simply because I've lost 30 kilos (I forgot about that part oops). As for the level of 'out there', my style in itself is on the punk side, so it's suitable when you match it to who I am. :)
And of course, I'll definitely share a picture after I get it done . :)
Quote from: Tripdistrans on February 13, 2015, 06:34:57 AM
@Lunarwings
I can style my hair like that at the moment with a lot of patience and product, aha. My hair just hates product, I've never found anything that will actually hold it.
In Australia, it is hard to find a male between the age of 10 and 20 that DOESN'T have an undercut..
I really like gatsby hair products, they seem to work well with thick hair and such.(not sure which part of Aus you're from but usually here you can get them at Asian grocery stores, or Asian hair salons) Also I know exactly what you mean by everyone in Oz having an undercut. I'm on the Gold Coast and everywhere I look someone's sporting one lol.
how did you lose 30kg o__o
Quote from: Lunarwings on February 13, 2015, 09:45:24 AM
I really like gatsby hair products, they seem to work well with thick hair and such.(not sure which part of Aus you're from but usually here you can get them at Asian grocery stores, or Asian hair salons) Also I know exactly what you mean by everyone in Oz having an undercut. I'm on the Gold Coast and everywhere I look someone's sporting one lol.
Thanks for that tip, I'm not sure if we have an asian grocery (we've got an African grocery) but I'll keep an eye out. :)
I think by the end of this year there won't be anyone without an undercut!
Quote from: palexander on February 13, 2015, 11:21:32 AM
how did you lose 30kg o__o
I'm thinking it was a combination of my HRT and moving out of home for six months. :laugh:
Hey there!
I am pre everything and I'm kind of short and cute looking. But that can be a good thing! I don't particularly pass very well yet, but I am very pleased with this recent photo and I wanted to know what you guys think.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F36.media.tumblr.com%2F58c2dae5a6c35dfc15e601c4e1963a1d%2Ftumblr_nizzv0LX7X1tpu90eo1_500.jpg&hash=403270a975fa4d45c34b3936f9276f2905fad54f)
Hi M->-bleeped-<-ie, you look very androgynous in that photo but I think you'll pass well if you eventually medically transition. Your clothes and hair look good.
I am pre everything and I'm kind of short and cute looking. But that can be a good thing! I don't particularly pass very well yet, but I am very pleased with this recent photo and I wanted to know what you guys think.
You'd pass. I've seen young men with round faces before. It would help to have a little stubble, but that can't be faked. People come in all shapes and sizes. What is more important than looks is how you act. Being comfortable in your male gender is part of what will, in large part determine what others see.
Sam1234
Thanks guys! I will be medically transitioning eventually. I have my first appointment on the 24th of April, so we'll have to see how it goes.
M->-bleeped-<-ie... damn man, you could pass for Dr. Who! Need a companion? ;D
Quote from: LoriLorenz on February 16, 2015, 12:50:36 PM
M->-bleeped-<-ie... damn man, you could pass for Dr. Who! Need a companion? ;D
Bless you!
I actually used to dress as Tennant!Doctor at conventions heh!
Hey M->-bleeped-<-ie, sharp outfit! You look good, maybe tighten up the haircut a little. The style looks good on you but I bet if it was closer on the back and sides it would look even more masculine. You've also got great eyebrows (which I seem to be obsessing about lately). Definitely on the right track. ;D
Quote from: sam1234 on February 15, 2015, 10:59:57 AM
I am pre everything and I'm kind of short and cute looking. But that can be a good thing! I don't particularly pass very well yet, but I am very pleased with this recent photo and I wanted to know what you guys think.
You'd pass. I've seen young men with round faces before. It would help to have a little stubble, but that can't be faked. People come in all shapes and sizes. What is more important than looks is how you act. Being comfortable in your male gender is part of what will, in large part determine what others see.
Sam1234
Honestly you've got a perfect canvas dude you don't pass right now cause of pre t but like I said canvas is perfect. I'd say 6months on T you'd pass perfectly. The clothes and hair look fine you're good congrats :)
As a general rule, F to Ms look younger than they are. It can be annoying at times, even embarrassing. People used to think I was a teenager when I was 30. When I look at pictures of myself back then, I did look considerably younger.
When you start taking T, one of the side effects I was told by the endocrinologist was water weight gain. The rounding of the face tends to soften it, making it look more feminine. If you can, let a little scruff grow, that will help.
sam1234
Quote from: sam1234 on February 16, 2015, 05:14:26 PM
As a general rule, F to Ms look younger than they are. It can be annoying at times, even embarrassing. People used to think I was a teenager when I was 30. When I look at pictures of myself back then, I did look considerably younger.
When you start taking T, one of the side effects I was told by the endocrinologist was water weight gain. The rounding of the face tends to soften it, making it look more feminine. If you can, let a little scruff grow, that will help.
sam1234
From the pictures I have seen here, I think I agree that most FTM's tend to appear younger than their actual age - That is one of the things I secretly wished for with my transition! Unfortunately, for me, it is not the case :( I started getting Gray hair in my late 20's. Now that I am 50 - I think I look at least 50 :( Maybe some day I will be brave enough to post a pic??
Hey guys, Its been a month now since I've been on T. not too much of an improvement but hell my voice really helps me pass and ive gotten skinnier. I decided to try skinny jeans again and noticed they really help. How am I looking now? yay or nay?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F204IRvW.jpg&hash=b4ebb4ea701344d3a620926ae0b16274e06dc5d2)
Also, how old do I look?
Yep, you definitely pass :). I would say that you look around 20.
Awesome! I think ill stick with this for a while! and perfect, Im actually 20 currently lol
Oh good grief and gravy M->-bleeped-<-ie, you are one good lookin' dude. And snazzy outfit I have to say!
Where'd you get it? :D Loving that coat.
And as everyone else is saying, you'll be good to go the moment you start medically transitioning, you have a fantastic canvas to work from, and already look pretty damn masculine. I think the only thing that might be throwing it off for me is the longer haircut.
And I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but you remind me of Gerard Way right now! The lead singer of my chemical romance. He has that lovely squared off jawline, coupled with the slightly longer hair, and that super strong intense eyebrow game.
I wonder what you'll look like after you start T!
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BlueGemFox you look great! Very handsome~ You strike me as a junior/senior in highschool, perhaps freshman in college. so around the 17-20 range. This might have something to do with the clothing choices as well though, so I can't say 100% based on face appearance.
But you look good in those skinny jeans, and I'd say pass. If your voice is becoming masculine too, it's a definite pass.
thanks Taius! I mostly dress a bit like an adult nerd so that probably helped :P and glad the skinny jeans really work, I was hoping not to get rid of them as they were my only favourite pants from the ladies section previously haha xD
Haha yeah I can understand that!
I think the really redeeming factor for them is they're skinny, but they're not super tight and they don't hug every part of the leg.
Those are my favorite kinds of jeans, honestly!
Quote from: Taius on February 17, 2015, 08:59:25 AM
Oh good grief and gravy M->-bleeped-<-ie, you are one good lookin' dude. And snazzy outfit I have to say!
Where'd you get it? :D Loving that coat.
And as everyone else is saying, you'll be good to go the moment you start medically transitioning, you have a fantastic canvas to work from, and already look pretty damn masculine. I think the only thing that might be throwing it off for me is the longer haircut.
And I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but you remind me of Gerard Way right now! The lead singer of my chemical romance. He has that lovely squared off jawline, coupled with the slightly longer hair, and that super strong intense eyebrow game.
I wonder what you'll look like after you start T!
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BlueGemFox you look great! Very handsome~ You strike me as a junior/senior in highschool, perhaps freshman in college. so around the 17-20 range. This might have something to do with the clothing choices as well though, so I can't say 100% based on face appearance.
But you look good in those skinny jeans, and I'd say pass. If your voice is becoming masculine too, it's a definite pass.
Hey, Gerard Way is a good looking guy! I'll take it! Thank you very much.
I was wondering out of curiosity how old do folks think I look?
BlueGemFox: Looking good, dude! I'd say you definitely pass! You look young, sort of teenage boy aged. I hope that isn't offensive to say!
yeah, ive lost weight thoug, so theyre bigger than usual. defenitly have a packer with em too so that probably helps!
M->-bleeped-<-ie: thanks! and no its pretty chill, I was always mistakened as teenage, even when i was pre teen it was weird
Pre everything, new hair cut, losing weight.. What do you think?
Sorry about the rotation, can't seem to fix it :/
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Quote from: SurlyCat on February 18, 2015, 03:30:56 AM
Pre everything, new hair cut, losing weight.. What do you think?
Sorry about the rotation, can't seem to fix it :/
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You look quite androgynous to me, so definitely a good start. I like the haircut btw :)
Quote from: SurlyCat on February 18, 2015, 03:30:56 AM
Pre everything, new hair cut, losing weight.. What do you think?
Sorry about the rotation, can't seem to fix it :/
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2Fnf42o6.jpg&hash=c2117601c27fba5e90e84f814f0f17dc946ed0cf)
Very androgynous! You certainly have a good start! You'll look amazing if/when you start T!
Apologies for the double post, I just remembered something!
As a few guys have mentioned, it is very difficult to draw realistic stubble and almost impossible to draw a realistic beard. However, at Christmas I gave it a damn good go!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F41.media.tumblr.com%2Fe3dd50ffc708b28cdb5f146a4b5ded69%2Ftumblr_ngisdzqXtj1tpu90eo1_500.jpg&hash=b5145f6080969fd1928c38288e224ac2047a6559)
I used a stipple brush and some cheap black eyeshadow to get the stubble effect and then patted it down with some translucent powder to soften it a little. You can get a thicker stubble effect with mascara. But I don't currently have any photos of that on this laptop.
It doesn't look amazing, but from afar it was pretty convincing. I also got 'Sir'd' six times out of eight. These soon changed to 'madam's' as soon as I opened my mouth, but you can't win them all c:
Looks very realistic, well done :)
Thank you both! Waiting to get my referral to start T, and been panicking that it won't work or something, so that is a big positive boost. :)
M->-bleeped-<-ie-Mind, it looks really realistic!
@ M->-bleeped-<-ie - Looking sharp dude!
@Bluegemfox - gotta love the nerdy stuff! I'd say you look about 18-20.
@Surlycat - i like your hairstyle.
I'd say you guys pass ;D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1382.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah277%2FMenoimagination%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsv6dg7ikz.jpg&hash=68d87818aa648ede708b3455d046790f08689ba2)
Does my face pass? And if I do, how old do I look?
I really hope I pass and I'm not at all jealous of all you because I think you all pass much better than I do
And please, if you've got any criticisms or tips, I am very very glad of any help and I really welcome any help. I am pre-everything :(
SurlyCat: Very androgynous, even with a slightly longer haircut. I think you'll do fantastic when you start T
M->-bleeped-<-ie-Mind: That is DEFINITELY convincing in photos. You can take some wicked selfies using that technique!
Also I like your hair a lot in that picture, haha!
Menoimagination: Yeah I'd say pass, definitely. And it's...kind of a mixed review on age. On the one hand depending on what features my eye focuses in on you look younger or older. Either between 16-17, or 21-22.
Also that jawline omfg. I am so jealous, you have one awesome shape going on there. Very masculine!
Some more recent shots that I think I don't look too bad in lol. XD
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGXEsAkg.jpg&hash=f2e5d9a71fdbb095fe6d514b3296c001a4e8fce3)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1LtpwPw.jpg&hash=9549113846b83198a6b6ff4ec5ed25e1e4f8aa3c)
Thoughts?
how old do i look, and do i pass?
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*hates my wavy hair*
Quote from: Menoimagination on January 02, 1970, 09:27:54 AM
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Does my face pass? And if I do, how old do I look?
I really hope I pass and I'm not at all jealous of all you because I think you all pass much better than I do
And please, if you've got any criticisms or tips, I am very very glad of any help and I really welcome any help. I am pre-everything :(
I'd say you pass and no tips needed, you also look around twenty. I love your haircut btw, I have something similar :D
Quote from: Lunarwings on February 19, 2015, 06:02:29 PM
Some more recent shots that I think I don't look too bad in lol. XD
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGXEsAkg.jpg&hash=f2e5d9a71fdbb095fe6d514b3296c001a4e8fce3)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1LtpwPw.jpg&hash=9549113846b83198a6b6ff4ec5ed25e1e4f8aa3c)
Thoughts?
You look great, very masculine and absolutely love the shirt you're wearing in the bottom pic :)
Taius, thanks:) I'm very glad that despite what my peers say I don't look 11. ...my jawline? Is it really? :) I'm glad
Elis, thank you. I'm sure the haircut looks better on you.
I'm glad that I look somewhere between 16-22. That's good going considering I'm actually on the youngest part of that scale. I guess I'm lucky.
Lunarwings, you look really good. I like that blue shirt, it looks really nice. You look good in it. You just look really good :)
Jasperbeauclair, I'm really useless with saying how old people look. If I saw you in the street I would probably use "they" pronouns until you told me otherwise, but that is what I do with everyone unless they tell me otherwise... So I guess that doesn't tell you anything. Sorry for not being helpful.
Menoimagination, I'm sure it doesn't as I can't get my hair to stay up like yours, even though I use the same pomade as my barber and experimented with using different amounts it still goes flat. Btw, I don't know how your friends think you look 11, you def look older.
Elis, Do you use a hair dryer and dry your hair upwards how you want it first? I do that (and then I use mousse and hair dryer again). That works for me for making it stay up. I'm bad with words, it probably doesn't make much sense what I said (and will probably be no use at all). But the heat from the hair dryer makes it stay. Before I used a hair dryer my hair would never stay up, but now it does. I have insanely fine hair (it really annoys me, having very fine hair) and I used to think nothing I did with it would work/stay.
I'm glad I look older than 11, I guess my peers are saying it to upset/annoy me then.
I don't think I do do that, I'll try it, thanks. I use Samys fat hair thickening shampoo and conditioner which helps my fine hair. The thickening spray works great too. You can buy them from amazon (at least in the UK).
Hey guys it's been a while, so I thought I'd give it a go again, first pic was dressed for court && second is a full body (May be a little nsfw, as I'm in undergarments, my undergarments are male & modest though so I'm not sure); it makes me really happy because curves are minimal. How am I looking?
http://m.imgur.com/cQe9esO
http://imgur.com/f7Wl71y
Quote from: SurlyCat on February 18, 2015, 03:30:56 AM
Pre everything, new hair cut, losing weight.. What do you think?
Sorry about the rotation, can't seem to fix it :/
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2Fnf42o6.jpg&hash=c2117601c27fba5e90e84f814f0f17dc946ed0cf)
You look amazing already and quite attractive if you don't mind me saying. :P I'm sure testosterone will do great for you. I have the same fears so try not to worry too much! ^.^
Hi, I'm new here, although I have been wandering trough this thread about a six months :)
I would like to ask if I pass to you..
Fortunately, I have wide shoulders and small breasts... Unfortunately, small chin and round cheeks (like a hamster, grrrr!), so I don't really know...
From October 2014
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc03.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2015%2F053%2F2%2F3%2Ffotografia_8_10_2014_o__16_08_by_vilsax-d8j2g1z.jpg&hash=fd0ade239f44654a047453ad105d1c541f036d48)
New haircut (It was unintentional, without glasses I didn't see what is the hairdresser doing to my head.)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc09.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2015%2F053%2Fb%2Fc%2Funtitled_drawing_by_vilsax-d8j2g4h.png&hash=db20e796f053439b254db8edc4d117969f6e51c2)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc02.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2015%2F053%2F9%2Fe%2Ffotografia_22_2_2015_o__14_22__2_by_vilsax-d8j2g2c.jpg&hash=e32f59d7cb2fd42c22367192187f1db75e4f658d)
Curse you, cheeks!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc04.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2015%2F053%2Fa%2Fb%2Ffotografia_22_2_2015_o__14_25_by_vilsax-d8j2g2j.jpg&hash=643785d2123388450183a682aa33c09d6770433f)
And how I looked in 2012... (Just showing :))
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc06.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2015%2F053%2Fe%2F8%2Fportret_by_vilsax-d8j2uxx.jpg&hash=b7a3246074ad571a4a4b9e688aee404bf2b9de6f)
Do you, guys, have any tips what to do with that pitiful chin? Maybe lose some weight?
Vil-you definitely pass and I like your haircut in all your pics. I can also see nothing wrong with your chin and cheeks. You look quite cute and masuline ;)
Elis - thank you then...
I get misread most of the time, but it must be because of the voice, too :-\
@Elis - Thanks and I agree, it is a pretty awesome shirt lol!
@menoimagination - dude you look like a cis friend of mine so yeah definitely pass for me lol.
@Vil - i think you pass and agree that your cheeks/chin look okay but if you really wanted to I've heard of some 'face massager' thing that my japanese friends have been raving about that slims down cheeks(I have no idea how well it works tho) It looks like this. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYOOu0UD.jpg&hash=7184e93f463183cbda23d97540ceba69c4b9d1a9)
You could give that a go?
Re: face slimming and toning, it can be done, but a better approach than buying a gizmo is to do exercises that target the facial muscles.
There are some good ones here (http://www.buzzle.com/articles/facial-exercises-for-men.html), and there's a link there to some more exercises just for slimming the cheeks. Google will bring up lots of other, similar pages.
Vil, I can't think of anything you could actively do. I think your face looks male to me. Infact, I showed your pictures to a sibling of mine and they said you look male. They also said they like the shorter hair.
You can't really do anything about your face, I mean you can try facial exercises, but you can't do much, idk how well they work but I haven't tried them. If you feel that you need to lose weight then you can, it might slim your face. But I know a few cis guys who have a similar face to you.
Lunarwings, thanks :)
Menoimagination: Oh I see... I'll try to lose some wight at first.
And thanks :)
i'm pre-everything, and i don't think i pass in terms of appearance (and voice, obviously). sometimes i can look fairly masculine, but other times it's near impossible.
judging by my profile picture (i'm wearing a hat because of my hair)...
what's your verdict? do i pass?
*anxiously awaits*
Quote from: Vil on February 22, 2015, 11:12:51 AM
Hi, I'm new here, although I have been wandering trough this thread about a six months :)
I would like to ask if I pass to you..
Fortunately, I have wide shoulders and small breasts... Unfortunately, small chin and round cheeks (like a hamster, grrrr!), so I don't really know...
From October 2014
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc03.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2015%2F053%2F2%2F3%2Ffotografia_8_10_2014_o__16_08_by_vilsax-d8j2g1z.jpg&hash=fd0ade239f44654a047453ad105d1c541f036d48)
New haircut (It was unintentional, without glasses I didn't see what is the hairdresser doing to my head.)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc09.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2015%2F053%2Fb%2Fc%2Funtitled_drawing_by_vilsax-d8j2g4h.png&hash=db20e796f053439b254db8edc4d117969f6e51c2)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc02.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2015%2F053%2F9%2Fe%2Ffotografia_22_2_2015_o__14_22__2_by_vilsax-d8j2g2c.jpg&hash=e32f59d7cb2fd42c22367192187f1db75e4f658d)
Curse you, cheeks!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc04.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2015%2F053%2Fa%2Fb%2Ffotografia_22_2_2015_o__14_25_by_vilsax-d8j2g2j.jpg&hash=643785d2123388450183a682aa33c09d6770433f)
And how I looked in 2012... (Just showing :))
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc06.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2015%2F053%2Fe%2F8%2Fportret_by_vilsax-d8j2uxx.jpg&hash=b7a3246074ad571a4a4b9e688aee404bf2b9de6f)
Do you, guys, have any tips what to do with that pitiful chin? Maybe lose some weight?
immediately thought of:
http://cdn.charismanews.com/images/stories/2014/culture/Robin-Williams-Night-at-the-Museum.jpg
if you decide to go on t, that will help. i've lost practically all of my cheeks. though we have different face shapes, i understand the frustration. the permanent baby face is extremely frustrating, but i'm slowly looking older.
Quote from: infinity on February 22, 2015, 02:54:55 PM
i'm pre-everything, and i don't think i pass in terms of appearance (and voice, obviously). sometimes i can look fairly masculine, but other times it's near impossible.
judging by my profile picture (i'm wearing a hat because of my hair)...
what's your verdict? do i pass?
*anxiously awaits*
i think that your eyebrows are a little on the thin side, but regardless, you pass to me!
Quote from: palexander on February 22, 2015, 03:28:40 PM
i think that your eyebrows are a little on the thin side, but regardless, you pass to me!
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Quote from: Vil on February 22, 2015, 11:12:51 AM
Do you, guys, have any tips what to do with that pitiful chin? Maybe lose some weight?
Hey guy, I have the same chin and a round face. I grew a goatee as soon as I could to add the illusion of angularity, and it helped me loads! When you can do that, I bet it will help you as well. Best of luck.
Quote from: Vil on February 22, 2015, 11:12:51 AM
Hi, I'm new here, although I have been wandering trough this thread about a six months :)
I would like to ask if I pass to you..
Fortunately, I have wide shoulders and small breasts... Unfortunately, small chin and round cheeks (like a hamster, grrrr!), so I don't really know...
From October 2014
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc03.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2015%2F053%2F2%2F3%2Ffotografia_8_10_2014_o__16_08_by_vilsax-d8j2g1z.jpg&hash=fd0ade239f44654a047453ad105d1c541f036d48)
New haircut (It was unintentional, without glasses I didn't see what is the hairdresser doing to my head.)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc09.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2015%2F053%2Fb%2Fc%2Funtitled_drawing_by_vilsax-d8j2g4h.png&hash=db20e796f053439b254db8edc4d117969f6e51c2)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc02.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2015%2F053%2F9%2Fe%2Ffotografia_22_2_2015_o__14_22__2_by_vilsax-d8j2g2c.jpg&hash=e32f59d7cb2fd42c22367192187f1db75e4f658d)
Curse you, cheeks!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc04.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2015%2F053%2Fa%2Fb%2Ffotografia_22_2_2015_o__14_25_by_vilsax-d8j2g2j.jpg&hash=643785d2123388450183a682aa33c09d6770433f)
And how I looked in 2012... (Just showing :))
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc06.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2015%2F053%2Fe%2F8%2Fportret_by_vilsax-d8j2uxx.jpg&hash=b7a3246074ad571a4a4b9e688aee404bf2b9de6f)
Do you, guys, have any tips what to do with that pitiful chin? Maybe lose some weight?
Losing some weight might help, but you are looking pretty good already. I like the rat though!
Quote from: Vil on February 22, 2015, 11:12:51 AM
Hi, I'm new here, although I have been wandering trough this thread about a six months :)
I would like to ask if I pass to you..
Fortunately, I have wide shoulders and small breasts... Unfortunately, small chin and round cheeks (like a hamster, grrrr!), so I don't really know...
From October 2014
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc03.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2015%2F053%2F2%2F3%2Ffotografia_8_10_2014_o__16_08_by_vilsax-d8j2g1z.jpg&hash=fd0ade239f44654a047453ad105d1c541f036d48)
New haircut (It was unintentional, without glasses I didn't see what is the hairdresser doing to my head.)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc09.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2015%2F053%2Fb%2Fc%2Funtitled_drawing_by_vilsax-d8j2g4h.png&hash=db20e796f053439b254db8edc4d117969f6e51c2)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc02.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2015%2F053%2F9%2Fe%2Ffotografia_22_2_2015_o__14_22__2_by_vilsax-d8j2g2c.jpg&hash=e32f59d7cb2fd42c22367192187f1db75e4f658d)
Curse you, cheeks!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc04.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2015%2F053%2Fa%2Fb%2Ffotografia_22_2_2015_o__14_25_by_vilsax-d8j2g2j.jpg&hash=643785d2123388450183a682aa33c09d6770433f)
And how I looked in 2012... (Just showing :))
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc06.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2015%2F053%2Fe%2F8%2Fportret_by_vilsax-d8j2uxx.jpg&hash=b7a3246074ad571a4a4b9e688aee404bf2b9de6f)
Do you, guys, have any tips what to do with that pitiful chin? Maybe lose some weight?
If I saw you down the street, I wouldn't even consider the idea of you being trans.
Quote from: Vil on February 22, 2015, 11:12:51 AM
Hi, I'm new here, although I have been wandering trough this thread about a six months :)
I would like to ask if I pass to you..
Fortunately, I have wide shoulders and small breasts... Unfortunately, small chin and round cheeks (like a hamster, grrrr!), so I don't really know...
From October 2014
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New haircut (It was unintentional, without glasses I didn't see what is the hairdresser doing to my head.)
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Curse you, cheeks!
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Do you, guys, have any tips what to do with that pitiful chin? Maybe lose some weight?
I'm not sure what your worried about regarding the chin and checks, several guys have similar features, I can bring a few to mind just sitting here
Anyway, you looks a guy to me
Vil - you definitely look male to me. my guess for not passing is your voice, because as far as looks go you appear totally male.
infinity - it's a bit hard for me to tell since it's in B&W, but as palexander mentioned, the main thing is your eyebrows. other than that, I don't think I'd read you as female - I'd probably see you as an androgynous guy.
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Quote from: DragonBeer on February 24, 2015, 12:44:09 PM
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You're looking good! I think you masculinizing very well :) it's a pass from me
Quote from: DragonBeer on February 24, 2015, 12:44:09 PM
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Looking good, DragonBeer. Are you passing on a regular basis at this point?
Quote from: Brett on February 24, 2015, 05:46:16 PM
Looking good, DragonBeer. Are you passing on a regular basis at this point?
Not very sure if it's 100% or not , most people in those fast food places don't gender at all and I'm not sure if it's because I still have that androgynous face that they are afraid to gender me correctly by first glance or they just don't use gender names like "ma'am" and "sir" at all. But this guy at Chipotle that was taking my order last weeekend told me "One second, sir." and "What can I do for you today, sir?" It's really the voice that helps, it betrays my baby face. :O
I'm Pre-T, first pic goes to the top of my thighs (its a bit blurry cos I couldn't keep my hand steady) and second pic is just my face, so what's the verdict?
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/11016753_776117289145342_1631197476_n.jpg?oh=07778dbe2f025f5a736c0261b6d9d056&oe=54F050A9&__gda__=1425014777_1206b6525709185e727282470a2636d9
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/11016324_776117255812012_501977954_n.jpg?oh=455d33328cb8201d1e1286cc117aa2c3&oe=54F040A7&__gda__=1425011130_5cae712cf87cce29c662d2e22b482362
Quote from: ookami94 on February 25, 2015, 04:31:03 AM
I'm Pre-T, first pic goes to the top of my thighs (its a bit blurry cos I couldn't keep my hand steady) and second pic is just my face, so what's the verdict?
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/11016753_776117289145342_1631197476_n.jpg?oh=07778dbe2f025f5a736c0261b6d9d056&oe=54F050A9&__gda__=1425014777_1206b6525709185e727282470a2636d9
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/11016324_776117255812012_501977954_n.jpg?oh=455d33328cb8201d1e1286cc117aa2c3&oe=54F040A7&__gda__=1425011130_5cae712cf87cce29c662d2e22b482362
Hey there! As another pre-T guy I understand the frustrations of wondering whether or not we pass yet. At the moment I'd say you looked androgynous, but you have the kind of face shape that tends to take well to masculinisation (longer/oval faces tend to pass better in the first few months of T as opposed to round/heart-shaped faces).
A few of you mentioned that with my hair a little shorter I would pass a lot better (thank you so much for the advice btw! Always appreciated!). I am very attached to my head fluff, so I didn't go as short as I probably should have done. But here is the new hair. What do people think?
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/e764b5fa31797adc9079c003a9973db7/tumblr_nkfrp2IGdC1tpu90eo1_540.jpg)
Also, if folks don't mind taking a guess, how old do you think I look?
Thanks!
Quote from: M->-bleeped-<-ie-Mind link=topic=170914.msg1632489#msg1632489 date=1425051436
A few of you mentioned that with my hair a little shorter I would pass a lot better (thank you so much for the advice btw! Always appreciated!). I am very attached to my head fluff, so I didn't go as short as I probably should have done. But here is the new hair. What do people think?
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/e764b5fa31797adc9079c003a9973db7/tumblr_nkfrp2IGdC1tpu90eo1_540.jpg)
Also, if folks don't mind taking a guess, how old do you think I look?
Thanks!
You look quite masculine, your hair really suits you, not like it didn't before :). I think you look around 20 or just under.
Quote from: Elis on February 27, 2015, 11:19:29 AM
You look quite masculine, your hair really suits you, not like it didn't before :). I think you look around 20 or just under.
agreed. i'd say 19ish
M->-bleeped-<-ie, you pass to me! You look like a handsome young adolescent man. Your eyes are stunning, btw! And the haircut fits you.
Quote from: DragonBeer on February 24, 2015, 07:06:28 PM
It's really the voice that helps, it betrays my baby face. :O
I agree with this, the times when I do sorta pass, my voice gives me away.
Quote from: ookami94 on February 25, 2015, 04:31:03 AM
I'm Pre-T, first pic goes to the top of my thighs (its a bit blurry cos I couldn't keep my hand steady) and second pic is just my face, so what's the verdict?
I can't see your pictures, though that could just be a problem on my end.
Quote from: M->-bleeped-<-ie-Mind link=topic=170914.msg1632489#msg1632489 date=1425051436
A few of you mentioned that with my hair a little shorter I would pass a lot better (thank you so much for the advice btw! Always appreciated!). I am very attached to my head fluff, so I didn't go as short as I probably should have done. But here is the new hair. What do people think?
Also, if folks don't mind taking a guess, how old do you think I look?
Thanks!
I feel ya on the attachment to your "head fluff". I was/am a bit hesitant to go too short. Still find I get mine cut just a bit shorter every time I trim. I think you get more comfortable with it.
That said, I agree with everyone your new haircut is definitely workin for ya! As for age, I'm horrible at this but I'd guess 18-19 ish?
I am absolutely stunned, flattered and overjoyed that you guys think I look under 21. I am actually a lot older than that. Thank you for making my day not only with that, but with the fact that a couple of you think I pass. Thank you so much. I was having a rough couple of days in regards to passing but now I'm feeling so much better.
Quote from: M->-bleeped-<-ie-Mind link=topic=170914.msg1633811#msg1633811 date=1425252499
I am absolutely stunned, flattered and overjoyed that you guys think I look under 21. I am actually a lot older than that. Thank you for making my day not only with that, but with the fact that a couple of you think I pass. Thank you so much. I was having a rough couple of days in regards to passing but now I'm feeling so much better.
Glad we could help. Whenever you need we're here to flatter you. :) Also I feel a lot of trans guys tend to look younger, it's a blessing and a curse.
Crappy selfies, sorry, I have a habit of just copying Burrito's face..
BUT. I got a hair cut. Idk if it's any good in terms of a. passing and b. being attractive, but I like it so that's good enough for now.
(https://41.media.tumblr.com/f9536ec140798b99e1b40bd5cb8ce5e1/tumblr_nkkcq6SwoE1u7q7vmo1_540.jpg)(https://40.media.tumblr.com/ceb362dc1fd9853df00d95bce342535e/tumblr_nkkrclZSjP1u7q7vmo2_400.jpg)
For some reason you's need to see both sides of my head? idk, enjoy
Quote from: Tripdistrans on March 02, 2015, 02:33:16 AM
Crappy selfies, sorry, I have a habit of just copying Burrito's face..
BUT. I got a hair cut. Idk if it's any good in terms of a. passing and b. being attractive, but I like it so that's good enough for now.
(https://41.media.tumblr.com/f9536ec140798b99e1b40bd5cb8ce5e1/tumblr_nkkcq6SwoE1u7q7vmo1_540.jpg)(https://40.media.tumblr.com/ceb362dc1fd9853df00d95bce342535e/tumblr_nkkrclZSjP1u7q7vmo2_400.jpg)
For some reason you's need to see both sides of my head? idk, enjoy
You definitely pass and are attractive ;)
Quote from: Elis on March 02, 2015, 04:08:16 AM
You definitely pass and are attractive ;)
Well thanks, and.. hey, thanks ;)
Tripdistrans, you pass and look very cool.
M->-bleeped-<-iemind, I love your eyes, and looking at you I'd never think anything other than 'guy'.
Dragonbeer, you're a handsome looking chap.
Idk that's everyone I can see rn.
All you guys are looking great! Tripdistrans, M->-bleeped-<-iemind, & Dragonbeer, you all pass in my book.
Anyhow, I'm 2 months on T and passing on the street 100% (I even use the men's locker room at the gym) but I'm just wondering if there are any 'chinks in the armour' so to speak that might help me pass better if fixed.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FzZf9JI0.jpg&hash=12352e4f3d3d9a5ea91e8ffbbcbcb99b0501e59a)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fs1hR5n7.jpg&hash=bb42617ab309e235b380045ae7561087da50a02c)
Also, what age would you peg me as being?
Quote from: AndrewB on March 04, 2015, 02:39:12 PM
All you guys are looking great! Tripdistrans, M->-bleeped-<-iemind, & Dragonbeer, you all pass in my book.
Anyhow, I'm 2 months on T and passing on the street 100% (I even use the men's locker room at the gym) but I'm just wondering if there are any 'chinks in the armour' so to speak that might help me pass better if fixed.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FzZf9JI0.jpg&hash=12352e4f3d3d9a5ea91e8ffbbcbcb99b0501e59a)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fs1hR5n7.jpg&hash=bb42617ab309e235b380045ae7561087da50a02c)
Also, what age would you peg me as being?
16 or 17
Thanks guys. I've already gotten into a habit of tying a very little pony tail in the back. I feel like Milo off Treasure Planet. [emoji1]
@Andrew, I'd say about 17.
@M->-bleeped-<-ie
Its so hard to let go of all the fluff! Every time I've done it I've always ended up letting it all grow back.
Quote from: AndrewB on March 04, 2015, 02:39:12 PM
All you guys are looking great! Tripdistrans, M->-bleeped-<-iemind, & Dragonbeer, you all pass in my book.
Anyhow, I'm 2 months on T and passing on the street 100% (I even use the men's locker room at the gym) but I'm just wondering if there are any 'chinks in the armour' so to speak that might help me pass better if fixed.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FzZf9JI0.jpg&hash=12352e4f3d3d9a5ea91e8ffbbcbcb99b0501e59a)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fs1hR5n7.jpg&hash=bb42617ab309e235b380045ae7561087da50a02c)
Also, what age would you peg me as being?
You're passing very well! I wouldn't say you're anything other than an eighteen year old boy.
Quote from: M->-bleeped-<-ie-Mind link=topic=170914.msg1632489#msg1632489 date=1425051436
A few of you mentioned that with my hair a little shorter I would pass a lot better (thank you so much for the advice btw! Always appreciated!). I am very attached to my head fluff, so I didn't go as short as I probably should have done. But here is the new hair. What do people think?
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/e764b5fa31797adc9079c003a9973db7/tumblr_nkfrp2IGdC1tpu90eo1_540.jpg)
Also, if folks don't mind taking a guess, how old do you think I look?
Thanks!
Liking the new haircut! All it took was getting that bit up off the neck. I can't tell if the 'burns are squared off but that would be good too. You're a good looking guy and will only get more so. I'd peg you around 20 although I'd still card you in a bar. ;D
Hey everyone! I've gotten advice from you all, and others, to get a haircut, I finally had the balls to go out and do it a few days back. So... Do I pass?
http://oi60.tinypic.com/eiuo9h.jpg
Quote from: Epicene on March 05, 2015, 10:56:49 AM
Hey everyone! I've gotten advice from you all, and others, to get a haircut, I finally had the balls to go out and do it a few days back. So... Do I pass?
http://oi60.tinypic.com/eiuo9h.jpg
Nice cut! I'd say it's a pass, especially with the haircut; I don't have an older pic to compare to but if you weren't passing before, this is a huge leap in the right direction. Granted, you don't look like a super old/mature guy, but a guy's a guy, right?
@AndrewB
Thank you! ^_^
For comparison sake, this was my hair before
http://oi61.tinypic.com/fdrcpf.jpg
It wasn't doing me any favors, but I harbor a secret dream of being Johnny Depp.
Also I forgot to add, I'm only seventeen and pre-T, so my hopes are that it (my face, heh) will get better with time and T.
@Epicene Oh yeah, definite improvement! Medium-length hairstyles are great, but hard to pull off when first trying to pass, usually, I've found. Trust me, I've been there!
Also T can do wonders for baby faces, you're preaching to the choir; I was Mr. Chubby Cheeks until I started working out and taking T, but I don't think I could have gotten rid of it so quickly just doing one and not the other, but those are my unfortunate circumstances, not yours. ;)
@Epicene
Oh that is a DEFINITE improvement! You look much more masculine now. :D
Hey guys,
I bought a compression undershirt so I can wear tighter white shirts and looking like a regular undershirt, not obviously a binder.
What do you think, does my chest pass?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQtjwXsd.jpg&hash=618e5cdbd92881594ea84487071d181bb27eba38)
It looks really good under darker shirts, but I'm not really sure with white.
(Also, on the mirror it's not dirt, it's not on the surface :-X )
Quote from: Jared on March 15, 2015, 03:29:47 PM
Hey guys,
I bought a compression undershirt so I can wear tighter white shirts and looking like a regular undershirt, not obviously a binder.
What do you think, does my chest pass?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQtjwXsd.jpg&hash=618e5cdbd92881594ea84487071d181bb27eba38)
It looks really good under darker shirts, but I'm not really sure with white.
(Also, on the mirror it's not dirt, it's not on the surface :-X )
Looks great! I'm gonna try that and branch out to those types of men clothing. XD
Is that Underworks?
Quote from: Jared on March 15, 2015, 03:29:47 PM
Hey guys,
I bought a compression undershirt so I can wear tighter white shirts and looking like a regular undershirt, not obviously a binder.
What do you think, does my chest pass?
It looks really good under darker shirts, but I'm not really sure with white.
(Also, on the mirror it's not dirt, it's not on the surface :-X )
Yup, total pass on the chest! Good find! Also, I think it looks fine either way, under the white, it adds a nice contrast, and under a darker shirt I'm sure it looks good too.
No, not Underworks, with shipping to Europe it's the most expensive stuff ever. It's this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Men-Sleeveless-Corset-Transgender-Skirt-Chest-Binder-Belly-Binder-/161563809105?pt=US_Mens_Tshirts&var=&hash=item259df41551
I wore it to work today and sometimes it's itchy and I don't really like the compression on the stomach too. But it's not as thight as a binder and it doesn't look like one. So far this is the only one I could find that isn't too expensive, not layered and full length. If any of you know anything like I described please don't hold it back :D
And thanks, I'm glad it works :)
Have you looked into Gc2b binders? I'm not sure how their European shipping prices are but the binders are reasonably priced, good quality, and are full length without compression all the way down (it stops about where a tri-top would in terms of binding). Might want to give them a try!
Yep I have. The shipping fee alone is equal to the cost of the binder :-\ 20$ is ok, but 40 not really. I'm sad about it, cause they really look good and it's exactly what I would need. But thanks for the idea! :)
I recently ordered a binder from CG2B ad their shipping prices were quite a sting (about 20 odd dollars) not to mention currency conversion added more, but with all the reviews I've seen I'm hoping its worth the dollars!
On another thing, I got my 21st coming up and decided to try myself in a rather fancy outfit. I'm usually a casual dress so I'm not sure how this will go down, but I was wondering how I'm going
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQtjaYBP.jpg&hash=aa04225e1e8b47631e5d5383b7448316291a985c)
I tried my large glasses with it too. I ended up getting the waist coat a size too small, but I have an incentive to lose weight.
I'm not too sure about my tie so I took a few pics with a few ties here (these ones have my slim every day glasses)
http://i.imgur.com/iUB7wul.jpg (waistcoat open)
http://i.imgur.com/HgKujJz.jpg (red tie, has skulls on it)
http://i.imgur.com/13ZZVqS.jpg (bowtie, personal fav)
I also want to cut my hair before my birthday too, as my hair is starting to get too long to pass. I've been told the under cut but I'm worried as I have a real baby face and it puffs out more with certain styles. What do you guys recommend? I'm up for anything
Quote from: Epicene on March 05, 2015, 10:56:49 AM
Hey everyone! I've gotten advice from you all, and others, to get a haircut, I finally had the balls to go out and do it a few days back. So... Do I pass?
http://oi60.tinypic.com/eiuo9h.jpg
I would say more than pass!
Quote from: BlueGemFox on March 18, 2015, 10:17:25 AM
I recently ordered a binder from CG2B ad their shipping prices were quite a sting (about 20 odd dollars) not to mention currency conversion added more, but with all the reviews I've seen I'm hoping its worth the dollars!
On another thing, I got my 21st coming up and decided to try myself in a rather fancy outfit. I'm usually a casual dress so I'm not sure how this will go down, but I was wondering how I'm going
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQtjaYBP.jpg&hash=aa04225e1e8b47631e5d5383b7448316291a985c)
I tried my large glasses with it too. I ended up getting the waist coat a size too small, but I have an incentive to lose weight.
I'm not too sure about my tie so I took a few pics with a few ties here (these ones have my slim every day glasses)
http://i.imgur.com/iUB7wul.jpg (waistcoat open)
http://i.imgur.com/HgKujJz.jpg (red tie, has skulls on it)
http://i.imgur.com/13ZZVqS.jpg (bowtie, personal fav)
I also want to cut my hair before my birthday too, as my hair is starting to get too long to pass. I've been told the under cut but I'm worried as I have a real baby face and it puffs out more with certain styles. What do you guys recommend? I'm up for anything
Definite pass. You look very handsome and dapper with the bow tie and the waistcoat not open ;). IMO the grey tie and grey waistcoat is a little bit too matchy and I just think somehow the bow tie looks better than the red tie. Not sure about you having an undercut as your face isn't super thin, but there are many types of undercut so I think it may be possible it'll suit you, if you go to the right barber who can work with your face shape. I have an undercut and was suprised how good I look with it as I have a roundish face. Also I use Prospectors Gold Rush pomade which my barber uses, bit pricey but lasts you a long time and works great. Have a happy 21st :)
Thanks! I had a feeling the bowtie would be the most optimal choice. I did find longish undercuts so I'm hoping possibly that will work. And tanks!! I'm hoping my 21st is going to be one hell of a blast!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2FgGocZ%2F254c795b6b.jpg&hash=226264f6f5570c07063c740bb06a545c0548e2c9)
5 and a half months on t, i dont know if i seen any changes yet
Quote from: Wolfy on March 19, 2015, 12:05:10 AM
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5 and a half months on t, i dont know if i seen any changes yet
I certainly am! Your brows look darker, your face has thinned out from what I can tell, and you just overall have a more masculine feel. T is doing you good! :)
Quote from: Wolfy on March 19, 2015, 12:05:10 AM
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5 and a half months on t, i dont know if i seen any changes yet
You pass to me!
New glasses, nearly 6 months on T. How am I doing?
http://i.imgur.com/z5FC8jg.jpg
looking good so far, lionheart! I've found those style of glasses to help a lot.
Also, I went for a haircut today and decided to get the undercut. I passed surprisingly well with the hairdresser as she thought I was a teenage boy.
anyway, how is it looking, guys?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPEEDDuV.jpg&hash=c38a237c513063628e54396cf5ad954ea6affa72)
Quote from: BlueGemFox on March 19, 2015, 08:56:05 PM
looking good so far, lionheart! I've found those style of glasses to help a lot.
Also, I went for a haircut today and decided to get the undercut. I passed surprisingly well with the hairdresser as she thought I was a teenage boy.
anyway, how is it looking, guys?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPEEDDuV.jpg&hash=c38a237c513063628e54396cf5ad954ea6affa72)
Definite pass, it makes you look more masculine. Great haircut as well, really suits you :)
Hello, I'm new here .... I'm pre-t and I'm going to buy a binder ...
so i was wondering, if I would pass ( and which haircut helps me pass )
your honest opinion would really help me :)
thank you in advance
Jimmy
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBCJgCa3m.jpg&hash=269ebc60c2b86944c4d9f864e7815d387ab68f3c)
Quote from: Jimmy on March 23, 2015, 06:07:23 AM
Hello, I'm new here .... I'm pre-t and I'm going to buy a binder ...
so i was wondering, if I would pass ( and which haircut helps me pass )
your honest opinion would really help me :)
thank you in advance
Jimmy
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3A0TV82m.jpg&hash=925cc20cf0ce9e3afa11c12ca16f5d22c304f834)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBCJgCa3m.jpg&hash=269ebc60c2b86944c4d9f864e7815d387ab68f3c)
The hairstyle in the first picture helps you pass. Having hair on your face makes you look more feminine.
Quote from: joeythejoster on January 09, 2015, 10:23:58 PM
I got my new binder today its the medium 997 from underworks. I'm about 5'8 141 pounds and still pre-T
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I think it looks nice
I LOVE the hello Kitty sticker :D but ya you DEFINITELY would pass
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1375.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag474%2FTom_Kipper%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsidgjwqjq.jpg&hash=7c77eb5793023c847a6edaaefb22ebdd3091062a) (http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/Tom_Kipper/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsidgjwqjq.jpg.html)
I got a new haircut. It's not as long as my other one although it's not the shortest I've gone. Right now it's a three onnthe sides and a disconnected undercut. I guess I'm just scarred from the time I went bald. What do you guys think?
Quote from: DragonBeer on March 23, 2015, 08:50:19 AM
The hairstyle in the first picture helps you pass. Having hair on your face makes you look more feminine.
oh really, I always thought that it helps passing ... then I'm gonna have my hair cut soon :) ....
Quote from: joeythejoster on March 24, 2015, 08:40:01 PM
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I got a new haircut. It's not as long as my other one although it's not the shortest I've gone. Right now it's a three onnthe sides and a disconnected undercut. I guess I'm just scarred from the time I went bald. What do you guys think?
Hello joeythejoster, I like your haircut .... I think it looks really cool! :)
ok the only pictures I have are those because I hate selfies. I don't actually wear those glasses often and yes I do need a haircut. Pre T.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/10893757_1493116027577626_1455671060_n.jpg?oh=4c3e8ed50530b2318877fc2f38817160&oe=551539BA&__gda__=1427423886_ea77f515127fd0d87b9eb617937242c5
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10519507_1466650693557493_8142653304240057804_n.jpg?oh=f1cc911a9de8499a4c4b8a55a7468f5c&oe=55AEC46A
Speaking of haircuts, I could use some advice because I'm not used to get my hair cut at all so I don't have any feel for it
Quote from: joeythejoster on March 24, 2015, 08:40:01 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1375.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag474%2FTom_Kipper%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsidgjwqjq.jpg&hash=7c77eb5793023c847a6edaaefb22ebdd3091062a) (http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/Tom_Kipper/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsidgjwqjq.jpg.html)
I got a new haircut. It's not as long as my other one although it's not the shortest I've gone. Right now it's a three onnthe sides and a disconnected undercut. I guess I'm just scarred from the time I went bald. What do you guys think?
Definite pass, I have a similar hair cut :)
Quote from: KevinReproducedFree on March 25, 2015, 06:33:51 AM
ok the only pictures I have are those because I hate selfies. I don't actually wear those glasses often and yes I do need a haircut. Pre T.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/10893757_1493116027577626_1455671060_n.jpg?oh=4c3e8ed50530b2318877fc2f38817160&oe=551539BA&__gda__=1427423886_ea77f515127fd0d87b9eb617937242c5
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10519507_1466650693557493_8142653304240057804_n.jpg?oh=f1cc911a9de8499a4c4b8a55a7468f5c&oe=55AEC46A
Speaking of haircuts, I could use some advice because I'm not used to get my hair cut at all so I don't have any feel for it
From seeing posts from other trans guys and my own personal experience, an undercut always works. Every guy seems to have one now. There are many different types though, just make sure to go to a good barber/stylist who can pick something to go with your face shape :)
Quote from: Elis on March 25, 2015, 09:16:02 AM
From seeing posts from other trans guys and my own personal experience, an undercut always works. Every guy seems to have one now. There are many different types though, just make sure to go to a good barber/stylist who can pick something to go with your face shape :)
aaaah yess undercuts look nice. I'll try to go to a hairdresser soon anyway so I will definitely keep it in mind. Thank you for the advice!
Elis - cool haircut :)
Just wanted to ask, I've got a new glasses in completely different style. Do I still pass?
Old ones:
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New ones.
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Also, how old you would say I am?
Quote from: Vil on March 27, 2015, 01:47:41 AM
Elis - cool haircut :)
Just wanted to ask, I've got a new glasses in completely different style. Do I still pass?
Old ones:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Forig08.deviantart.net%2F6e8c%2Ff%2F2015%2F085%2F9%2F4%2Ffotografia_22_2_2015_o_14_22_by_vilsax-d8j2g2c.jpg&hash=37ef6b1cbcb9feeba8a67e7ad9b0adf33830212f)
New ones.
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Also, how old you would say I am?
Thanks :). You definitely still pass, I really like your new glasses :). I'd say you look between 25 and 30ish.
Quote from: Elis on March 27, 2015, 03:28:49 AM
Thanks :). You definitely still pass, I really like your new glasses :). I'd say you look between 25 and 30ish.
Really? I am happy for that, 'cause I thought I will look younger... I'm still 19 :)
Lionheart, I like those glasses on you. They look like fit your face well width-wise, which is important. Guys look kinda silly to me when their glasses don't fit their face right, but you're looking good!
Bluegemfox, looking awesome! It really surprises me that you don't already pass 100%, you look very male to me. You're a handsome guy btw!
Jimmy, I agree- first photo hair is a winner. It also makes you look older imo. I can't tell if the glasses help your passing or not, do you have a photo in them with the first haircut?
Joey, I'm surprised you're pre-T! I think you pass with flying colors, and I love your hair and clothes style!
Kevin, I can only see your second photo and your face is kinda obscured. But from what I can see, I'd say leave some length on top and get the back and sides shorter.
Vil, yep you definitely still pass. And you look your age or older, which is awesome for us transguys! I do think you looked a little older in the other glasses, but I'd still peg you for 18-24 depending on your body and clothing style. I could see you pulling off dress clothes very well... I get a professor type vibe from you with those glasses. :)
From what I can see of the guys on this page, you all pass:)
Please don't quote. 18 months on T. How old do you think I look? Do I "pass"? Also excuse how tired I look was taken after work lol
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi113.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn222%2Fashtonglenn%2F20150325_044026_zpsfjtnkain.jpeg&hash=62f58c667914aba4f7e08c2c02f9b91497ab9f7e) (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/ashtonglenn/media/20150325_044026_zpsfjtnkain.jpeg.html)
G, to me you look about 24 in that pic.
Just popping in.
Guys you look great!!!
G you are the image of my personal trainer!
He is really hot just like you but I hate him as he reduces me to a sweaty blubbering mess!
<you aren't my PT are you?>
Cindy
hmm, ok. I'm a bit shy about posting pictures, so please don't quote them :P
I'm pre-everything, and don't pass at all irl (and I'm not out either)
but... yeah. here's my face.
(https://41.media.tumblr.com/435ec43b5dc4ae51cba5bb06377bcbac/tumblr_nm1saaMcQi1tyhkhpo1_1280.jpg)
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/990f5c863c1422de0754666ad73efc39/tumblr_nm1saaMcQi1tyhkhpo2_1280.jpg)
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/4861e40a0094920c76d936f47a1b394d/tumblr_nm1saaMcQi1tyhkhpo3_1280.jpg)
ehh, sorry, I couldn't help myself on the last picture. I'm always pulling faces :P
Igatun, you pass to me. In fact, you remind me a little bit of Toby Maguire in that first photo. Maybe you don't pass IRL possibly due to mannerisms/general appearance/voice? But honestly, you pass in my eyes. Very handsome.
Oh, wow. thanks, Maleth!
I think that a lot of my not passing is due to my voice. It gets extremely female-sounding when I'm nervous, which is basically any time that I interact with anyone that I don't know super well.
I think that I have confused people in public restrooms (using the women's.) One time a lady even walked out with a perplexed look on her face then came back in :P
But once I open my mouth, there's no hope.
Igatun, yep, very passable to me. We should get together, since I get misgendered too, until I open my mouth!
Thanks, LoriLorenz!
The voice thing sucks, doesn't it.
Well, the past few days I have had absolutely no control of my voice.
I'm almost five months on T and I feel absolutely great :D
But, I thought I would ask what ya'll think of my new haircut. Personally, I have been rather shy with it, considering the last time I cut it short everyone just thought I looked like a lesbian and that gave me a whole lot of dysphoria.
(https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11081095_1580115908934822_6865854853708915226_n.jpg?oh=5d9ab618fab9a9bb5dfde61bc7c4c07a&oe=559D2A95)
(https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/20200_1580115912268155_5498714755120005676_n.jpg?oh=5a7465152f9b4b78ccf980fe8e44ffc3&oe=55AA5114)
And then I also wanted to ask what everyone here thinks of my voice. I have been told I sound really gender neutral, though more on the masculine side.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0fZyShQKUv8
@Igatun
-I personally think you pass, really well. I would have guessed male, 17-19ish :)
@G
I think you pass! Wow, you look great. If I had to guess your age, I think I would go 20+ but then again, I have always been horrible at guessing ages xD
@Dalex: You have a great singing voice. I guess it sounds a bit gender neutral but I would default to thinking it's a guy. Do you have any voice training or are you self taught? Sounds great.
@Whynaut
Thank you :) I'm self taught, though used to do choirs as a kid so I have that to take with me when I sing today. Though, before T and I think about two years ago, I was actually a soprano till I started to try to lower my range, so it has been a rather interesting journey to take with my singing. My sisters used to constantly comment about how I sang like a Disney princess, hopefully I'm getting closer to sounding like a prince not a princess though xD
man have you changed dalex, you look great, I like the haircut too
Quote from: Cindy on March 30, 2015, 01:37:10 AM
Just popping in.
Guys you look great!!!
G you are the image of my personal trainer!
He is really hot just like you but I hate him as he reduces me to a sweaty blubbering mess!
<you aren't my PT are you?>
Cindy
Thank you :) And no I am not your PT but that's funny because I've always wanted to be one!
Quote from: Dalex on March 31, 2015, 09:50:20 AM
@G
I think you pass! Wow, you look great. If I had to guess your age, I think I would go 20+ but then again, I have always been horrible at guessing ages xD
Thank you Dalex. You are also looking great! I like your hair cut
Quote from: LoriLorenz on March 30, 2015, 01:28:02 AM
G, to me you look about 24 in that pic.
I will be soon! Yay to finally looking my age lol
Dalex you pass to me. Iv got the same hair cut like yours excepted the back.
Quote from: Dalex on March 31, 2015, 09:50:20 AM
Well, the past few days I have had absolutely no control of my voice.
I'm almost five months on T and I feel absolutely great :D
But, I thought I would ask what ya'll think of my new haircut. Personally, I have been rather shy with it, considering the last time I cut it short everyone just thought I looked like a lesbian and that gave me a whole lot of dysphoria.
(https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11081095_1580115908934822_6865854853708915226_n.jpg?oh=5d9ab618fab9a9bb5dfde61bc7c4c07a&oe=559D2A95)
(https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/20200_1580115912268155_5498714755120005676_n.jpg?oh=5a7465152f9b4b78ccf980fe8e44ffc3&oe=55AA5114)
And then I also wanted to ask what everyone here thinks of my voice. I have been told I sound really gender neutral, though more on the masculine side.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0fZyShQKUv8
Dalex, your voice definitely passes in my ears.
Probably one of the last photo posts I'll probably do lol, but I think I have improved greatly over the course of these months, around 3 months on T now and I'm starting to notice changes. I found an old photo of me before T. What do you guys think? Any noticeable changes? definite passing?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FoNirukb.jpg&hash=45abef5cf25b090615de8f57562316de31db3cde) Pre T
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAkhjbKg.jpg&hash=9009b9624a209c7e9b376925c253b89fab0ac5f4) nearly 3 months
(also how old do I look? someone thought I was 17, but I still passed)
But overall, the advice you guys have given me over the time has really helped and I appreciate it so much! And I will try to help with advice as much as i can now that I have learnt so much, thanks guys!
So I got a haircut, I went to a new barber place called Deez Cuts over is Southern California. This is the end result.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1375.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag474%2FTom_Kipper%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps0sqgd2am.jpg&hash=95a6a97b9f6642c5f4433d37eac4178284e56c03) (http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/Tom_Kipper/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps0sqgd2am.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1375.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag474%2FTom_Kipper%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsu0nc2zjk.jpg&hash=a8d4e7877ade0ce2e8527d2280cc029ef6a39b1c)
(http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/Tom_Kipper/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsu0nc2zjk.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1375.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag474%2FTom_Kipper%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsapgidd6f.jpg&hash=1b817519ff4294ed2446c25310c5582e2738de2c) (http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/Tom_Kipper/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsapgidd6f.jpg.html)
yes
Quote from: Dalex on March 31, 2015, 09:50:20 AM
Well, the past few days I have had absolutely no control of my voice.
I'm almost five months on T and I feel absolutely great :D
But, I thought I would ask what ya'll think of my new haircut. Personally, I have been rather shy with it, considering the last time I cut it short everyone just thought I looked like a lesbian and that gave me a whole lot of dysphoria.
(https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11081095_1580115908934822_6865854853708915226_n.jpg?oh=5d9ab618fab9a9bb5dfde61bc7c4c07a&oe=559D2A95)
(https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/20200_1580115912268155_5498714755120005676_n.jpg?oh=5a7465152f9b4b78ccf980fe8e44ffc3&oe=55AA5114)
And then I also wanted to ask what everyone here thinks of my voice. I have been told I sound really gender neutral, though more on the masculine side.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0fZyShQKUv8
@Igatun
-I personally think you pass, really well. I would have guessed male, 17-19ish :)
@G
I think you pass! Wow, you look great. If I had to guess your age, I think I would go 20+ but then again, I have always been horrible at guessing ages xD
I don't know if it's just my area, but that style fauxhawk is only one I tend to see on transmen or very edgy gals with lots of piercings/tatts? Don't get me wrong it looks good, just from the side it reads more neutral than male to me. There are a lot of guys in this college town with super long hair though, so maybe it is just considered androgenous. I sort of feel it would look more traditionally masculine if the sides matched the shortest length of the back of the do! I don't want to be super critical though, my hair is all way too long for a traditional man's haircut and I know it's a major reason people see me as more femme XD I am pretty much non passing a lot of the time, so jealous of your awesome jawline ha ha!
Your face is very manly tho, the front especially reads guy, you look like one of my cousins a bit, he's got a similar facial structure and is a super cutie ;D
Quote from: Aazhie on April 06, 2015, 05:59:04 PM
I don't know if it's just my area, but that style fauxhawk is only one I tend to see on transmen or very edgy gals with lots of piercings/tatts? Don't get me wrong it looks good, just from the side it reads more neutral than male to me. There are a lot of guys in this college town with super long hair though, so maybe it is just considered androgenous. I sort of feel it would look more traditionally masculine if the sides matched the shortest length of the back of the do! I don't want to be super critical though, my hair is all way too long for a traditional man's haircut and I know it's a major reason people see me as more femme XD I am pretty much non passing a lot of the time, so jealous of your awesome jawline ha ha!
Your face is very manly tho, the front especially reads guy, you look like one of my cousins a bit, he's got a similar facial structure and is a super cutie ;D
I actually, to tell the truth, had almost no say in this haircut... It was originally supposed to be longer on the sides then it is currently, but still a bit long at the top xD A shorter version of the haircut I already had since I thought that one suited me. I have to agree, where I am from, I only see butch lesbians (Nothing wrong with that) with that haircut. So, when I could feel where this haircut was going I had like a miniature panic build up. I'm just going to say, I look forward to my hair growing out. I just think it suits me better to have some hair on my head, and oddly enough, even with shoulder length hair I was passing a lot better in person then when I do with short hair. I might take up on your advice though and see about getting the back of my head taken to the same length it is on the sides, but keep the top.
And thank you for the compliment x3
Hey guys, I haven't been on here in a really long time, so I thought I'd make this my first post. I'm on T currently, but I've been on and off of it for the past year
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi309.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fkk396%2Fcrying_isfor_babies%2F1428167320468_zpsrra8sniw.jpg&hash=ca58f23bbf976a5ea67cbfa23e20dcacb0685d8e) (http://s309.photobucket.com/user/crying_isfor_babies/media/1428167320468_zpsrra8sniw.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi309.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fkk396%2Fcrying_isfor_babies%2FSnapchat--4510988616045548627_zpskh4eciym.jpg&hash=35884635e69e6c13b1286c8e945b8812b12dd7a9) (http://s309.photobucket.com/user/crying_isfor_babies/media/Snapchat--4510988616045548627_zpskh4eciym.jpg.html)
Quote from: BMTH on April 19, 2015, 09:56:54 PM
Hey guys, I haven't been on here in a really long time, so I thought I'd make this my first post. I'm on T currently, but I've been on and off of it for the past year
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi309.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fkk396%2Fcrying_isfor_babies%2F1428167320468_zpsrra8sniw.jpg&hash=ca58f23bbf976a5ea67cbfa23e20dcacb0685d8e) (http://s309.photobucket.com/user/crying_isfor_babies/media/1428167320468_zpsrra8sniw.jpg.html)
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You look quite handsome. :)
I do have to say though, if you consider yourself ghostly pale, you may see me as blindingly pale :laugh:
Quote from: ChloëAri on April 19, 2015, 10:32:14 PM
You look quite handsome. :)
I do have to say though, if you consider yourself ghostly pale, you may see me as blindingly pale :laugh:
Well it's pretty pale for me considering I'm half Mexican half Italian lol not that it necessarily looks bad on anyone else. Oh and thank you (:
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My hair isn't yellow in person, I swear! Not too sure what happened in that picture. I was mocking my partner about the way he poses for pictures as he never seems to smile, haha. (I'm pre-everything at the moment)
Deffo pass, Evrott. And wow, that jawline could beat up other jawlines in a dark alley.
Evrott: You pass super well, man! I assumed you were already on T. You look great. And I second what Ollie said, that jawline!
As for me, my hair has grown out again and I really like it with a bit of length. I'd really love to have it super long, but I understand that will probably not do me any favours passing. Anyways, this is me as of ten minutes ago.
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/a6ee095d361ecd8328765264cd5dc0e3/tumblr_nngo9mvMKx1tpu90eo1_1280.jpg)
Even I think I look crazy young in this one. Looking more 25 than 30. But the question is, with longer, fluffier hair, do I still pass.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7668/17167124598_d7cb675188.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/sa113S)
Hi, guys! I'm Spencer, and I'm pre-T: do I pass? (Am I close, at least?)
Thanks in advance for your help!
Evrott -- you ABSOLUTELY pass. That JAW, bro! T is going to be super kind to you.
M->-bleeped-<-ie-Mind -- I might have read you as male, but I would've thought MUCH younger -- my best guess for this most recent picture would have been 15-17. I think I would have been more likely to read you as a dude from your profile picture than from the new pic. Like you said, I think the extra length to your hair isn't doing you many favors (esp. because it covers your eyes in the front-- I feel like I read long bangs as more distinctively "feminine" than long hair in the back). And while you should obviously rock whatever headphones strike your fancy, I think the pink in this photo is another thing that would have primed me to read you as feminine, especially if I were just walking by you on the street. I think that YOU pass--there's nothing about your face, body, etc. that would have made me go, "Oh, no, you don't pass"--but there are some stylistic things in this most recent photo that are working against you.
7.5 months on T, how well do I pass?
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@Blake: I think you pass pretty dang well! You look like an average 18-19 year-old dude. Cool watch!
I can't work out how to embed a photo in a post, so have uploaded it to Flickr...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/133108491@N07/shares/3667y4 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133108491@N07/shares/3667y4)
I'm pre-T but quite often get read as male. I would be interested to know how old people think I look though. A friend got asked if I was her son the other day - don't think she was best pleased!! I don't have much luck passing in the work world, or where I'm expected to be older, as I'm clearly not a cisgender adult man. Any suggestions or tips for passing better would be appreciated!
Chris it's actually really easy to post a photo on here. When you make the post You click on the insert image option. Between the ING bracket tings you place the link to the photo online. It's pretty much that simple. Generally you want the bbcode address for your picture. Hugs
Mariah
Thanks, I tried that Mariah, but I couldn't make it work. I did read afterwards somewhere though that I can't post pictures until I've made a certain number of posts, so I guess that is why.
You will get their soon Chris. 15 posts opens many things up for you. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: IAmChris on May 10, 2015, 05:06:39 PM
I can't work out how to embed a photo in a post, so have uploaded it to Flickr...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/133108491@N07/shares/3667y4 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133108491@N07/shares/3667y4)
I'm pre-T but quite often get read as male. I would be interested to know how old people think I look though. A friend got asked if I was her son the other day - don't think she was best pleased!! I don't have much luck passing in the work world, or where I'm expected to be older, as I'm clearly not a cisgender adult man. Any suggestions or tips for passing better would be appreciated!
Chris, I think you pass well. I think you will "seal the deal" if you make sure that your shirts are not clinging to your chest. I was always conscious of this, looking down to check it was not against my chest. It becomes second nature. Be conscious of the fact of not hunching over like a lot of guys do. It is not good for the shoulders and if you can hide the chest well, it is not necessary. What helps is a looser shirt or just making sure that the fabric of the shirt isn't the type that get hung up against the body. Also, getting the binder that flattens you the most and is made of a fabric that shirts don't cling to. For example, the tri top or 997 from underworks.
Your face and body shape is very helpful to passing.
Quote from: Bimmer Guy on May 11, 2015, 06:52:49 AM
Chris, I think you pass well. I think you will "seal the deal" if you make sure that your shirts are not clinging to your chest. I was always conscious of this, looking down to check it was not against my chest. It becomes second nature. Be conscious of the fact of not hunching over like a lot of guys do. It is not good for the shoulders and if you can hide the chest well, it is not necessary. What helps is a looser shirt or just making sure that the fabric of the shirt isn't the type that get hung up against the body. Also, getting the binder that flattens you the most and is made of a fabric that shirts don't cling to. For example, the tri top or 997 from underworks.
Your face and body shape is very helpful to passing.
Thanks Bimmer Guy!
I have actually started wearing slightly smaller/more fitted tops than I used to, as I think they look better than something baggy and I actually seem to pass better. Agree that the one in the photo isn't perfect though - perhaps I need to find more of a middle ground.
Hunched shoulders are something I've become really aware of recently, I didn't realise how awful my posture was until a friend started commenting on it. I now make a real effort to stand up tall and with my shoulders back and, surprisingly, I now pass a lot more often even though I'm not trying to hide my chest. Perhaps it's a confidence thing :)
Thanks for the binder recommendation, I've never actually worn one. I do a lot of sport and so tend to rely on just a sports bra as I don't want to restrict my self at all and do any damage... I do want to try binding though, even if only to get rid of the visible sports bra lines.
nyrangers - You look like a guy to me.
Chris, this might just be me, but I don't think your chest looks bad at all. You don't look outside the bounds of a regular guy to me. If that's you in a sports bra, I think you'll be fine. Overall you have a masculine face and body shape and just look like a guy. I think the only thing could potentially throw me off is your hair. If I cover your forehead, you pass completely to me. It's not that your hair style is feminine, it's not, but it can be. So the hairline gets a bit more attention as my brain does that weird automatic search for clues. If that makes sense.
Thank you Asa, this thread is a great confidence booster :D
Hey, Chris. I know what you mean about wearing more form fitting shirts. I always did the same (I am post top now). I see nothing wrong with what you are wearing, I just noticed how the shirt was caught up on the one side, so I just went on a ramble about binders and such in general.
If a sports bra suits you, then stick with that. I found for me when wearing a sport bra that the type that has the smooth surface (nylon?), would keep the shirt from clinging to my chest. You are also making a good choice in not being physically active in a binder.
New glasses. What do you all think?
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Hello,
I am about 5 years on T, but I still get misgendered quite a bit. I would say at least a few times a week. Any tips?
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Quote from: JesseO on May 15, 2015, 08:15:07 PM
Hello,
I am about 5 years on T, but I still get misgendered quite a bit. I would say at least a few times a week. Any tips?
I think it's the eyebrows? Try making them look fuller.
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I'm pre all the things. Something is...off...though...yes?
Quote from: JesseO on May 15, 2015, 08:15:07 PM
Hello,
I am about 5 years on T, but I still get misgendered quite a bit. I would say at least a few times a week. Any tips?
(https://k3.okccdn.com/php/load_okc_image.php/images/150x150/558x800/52x40/722x710/0/2920759707869095090.webp?v=2)
Well, although I love the glasses, they are rounded, which makes a face more feminine. The standard (as I'm sure you know), is to go square/rectangle to make a face look more square (masculine).
That's all I can come up with to explain it. You are a handsome guy!
P.S. I like your haircut. I have the same one! ha!
JesseO - You look like a guy to me, it's only when I go out of my way to think about the fact that you're trans that I do a double-take. If I had to nit-pick, I'd say your eyebrows look a little bit thin to me. I assume your voice is nice and low after 5 years on T? Are you still using female inflections, maybe? I also believe that the glasses may be feminizing your face to look a bit rounder. Sorry, I'm kind of at a loss, you look like a pass to me!
DisturbedRaccoon - Again, I kind of have to think about the fact that you're trans to see the more "feminine" features. Maybe I'm too hung up on eyebrows - they look pretty averagely full - maybe it's just the angle, but they seem a bit arched? Like the hair, by the way.
Now for my pictures - I can't tell whether or not I pass, as no one has been gendering me at all recently. (Please don't quote my pictures, I may delete them later) :)
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Hmm. I know the glasses rule. I actually thought about getting new glasses (I've had the same for quite a while) but both times I went the optometrist (two different ones) talked me out of it because of "how well the glasses suited my face". I usually get misgendered before I speak, so I'm not sure it's the way I speak. I never do anything with my eyebrows...this is about as thick and bushy as they get. How would you suggest making them appear fuller without it looking like I'm wearing makeup (which won't help)?
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7.5 months on t. how am I looking? my profile picture was like 2 months on t btw.
If I may say, I see a nice looking young man :)
Hi :)
I believe a brow powder would give it more realistic appearance if you plan to make your brows more fuller.
I think you are a good looking gentleman regardless xo
April
Quote from: JesseO on May 16, 2015, 11:47:39 PM
Hmm. I know the glasses rule. I actually thought about getting new glasses (I've had the same for quite a while) but both times I went the optometrist (two different ones) talked me out of it because of "how well the glasses suited my face". I usually get misgendered before I speak, so I'm not sure it's the way I speak. I never do anything with my eyebrows...this is about as thick and bushy as they get. How would you suggest making them appear fuller without it looking like I'm wearing makeup (which won't help)?
Quote from: JesseO on May 16, 2015, 11:47:39 PM
Hmm. I know the glasses rule. I actually thought about getting new glasses (I've had the same for quite a while) but both times I went the optometrist (two different ones) talked me out of it because of "how well the glasses suited my face". I usually get misgendered before I speak, so I'm not sure it's the way I speak. I never do anything with my eyebrows...this is about as thick and bushy as they get. How would you suggest making them appear fuller without it looking like I'm wearing makeup (which won't help)?
Well, the glasses actually DO look great on you. The problem is that the optometrist knows you are male, so that is not something they would question (or consider as an issue), while they are helping you pick out glasses. They know you are male, so they assume everyone sees you that way.
You are not looking for glasses that just look good on you, but also ones that help you pass. I am assuming you have not offered that up to them that you would like glasses that assist with this.
Assuming you haven't done this, maybe next time you say to the optometrist that you are looking for glasses that highlight your masculine features. Tell them you heard that glasses that are more square will do this. Throwing the masculine features this into the mix may impact the glasses they suggest.
Just a thought.
Not knowing your body shape, if it is more female, that will of course impact someone "passing", too.
Is there a way for you to do makeup (aka, darken your eyebrows a little) without it looking like it? I'm not sure how good you are at it, so that would of course depend on what skill level you had with it.
Applying a small amount of mascara, using a qtip, lightly brushing it on. Mascara tends to last longer than a powder, and as long as you're not caking it on, it won't run. Seriously, very lightly brush it on with one end of a qtip and use the clean end to blend it in
Quote from: Fids on May 17, 2015, 03:44:58 PM
Is there a way for you to do makeup (aka, darken your eyebrows a little) without it looking like it? I'm not sure how good you are at it, so that would of course depend on what skill level you had with it.
Quote from: Fids on May 16, 2015, 05:37:11 PM
DisturbedRaccoon - Again, I kind of have to think about the fact that you're trans to see the more "feminine" features. Maybe I'm too hung up on eyebrows - they look pretty averagely full - maybe it's just the angle, but they seem a bit arched? Like the hair, by the way.
Thanks. They grow like that and I had make-up on them to make them look fuller. Mission failed I guess lol. I'll try the qtip mascara trick next time I go out.
Quote from: Fids on May 16, 2015, 05:37:11 PM
Now for my pictures - I can't tell whether or not I pass, as no one has been gendering me at all recently.
You look like a younger boy/androgynous to me.
disturbedraccoon - I wouldn't say mission failed, you definitely look like a guy to me, I had to look for things to be "critical" of, and i think you'd definitely pass in average situations as long as your body is a pass.
And thanks, I think I'm okay looking like a younger boy for now as long as I get a pass. I'm afraid that cutting my hair too short will actually make me look more feminine, so I'm keeping it kinda "shaggy" right now. That, and I like a little bit of length to it.
I'm glad to see you found it, but your picture isn't coming through. Just to let you know the cross posting isn't supposed to be done. I removed the original thread since you were trying for this one all along. Thanks
Mariah
Quote from: JJoshM on June 02, 2015, 10:47:54 AM
I've been on T now for the last 10/11 months and I don't seem to notice any changes and I know people generally go through the process differently but at 10 odd months I would have thought I would notice something different? Even a little bit of facial hair, but none.
I know I also look youngish but I am actually 22! Do I pass as male / any suggestions? (Side note - I know I'm covering part of my face with my hand but it's how I normally take a photo as I don't like my mouth!)
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about 70 days on T ;D
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I just created a new account after forgetting my contact info for my original account from over 2 or so years ago. Everyone looks great! I'm in need of a hair cut and saw yours, Daniel95, looks great man.
You can add your facebook to your signature or I could add your facebook account directly to your profile you will have the ability to add to your profile yourself after 15 posts. If you need help with how to put photos in a post, I can easily help you with that. Hugs
Mariah
still not on T as always just wanna make sure if i still pass or not and thank you.
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Definite pass, you're going to look even more handsome on T ;). And those jeans and tshirt are amazing, good choice :)
Quote from: Mariah2014 on June 02, 2015, 04:37:20 PM
You can add your facebook to your signature or I could add your facebook account directly to your profile you will have the ability to add to your profile yourself after 15 posts. If you need help with how to put photos in a post, I can easily help you with that. Hugs
Mariah
Yeah I still can't put a picture up for some reason so I've just directed the link to my facebook in my signiture like you said. Thanks anyway, computer stuff has never been my strong point.
got a haircut today. bout 1 month on T. thoughts?! http://imgur.com/X620ndq
If you quiff it up I think you'll look better. Wearing it flat kinda accentuates the roundness of your face. But you do look quite masculine already.
okay thanks!
i got the sides shorter. http://i.imgur.com/wTc8G5z.jpg better?
Quote from: captainbathtub on June 05, 2015, 07:56:21 PM
i got the sides shorter. http://i.imgur.com/wTc8G5z.jpg better?
the shaved sides do wonders for you, man. i'd recommend keeping them shorter because it helps your face shape. pre-t i looked similar, but not exact and now my face is shaping up. if i lose weight i'm sure that it'll look better....
An FTM does not need typical male features to pass. The only real negative feature would be the appearance of large noticeable female breasts.
Quote from: mac1 on June 05, 2015, 11:11:13 PM
An FTM does not need typical male features to pass. The only real negative feature would be the appearance of large noticeable female breasts.
Mmm agree to disagree... Sort of. There are a lot of 'tells' that can make people see an FTM guy as female by mistake. A lot of it has to do with facial features/structure, usually as a result of the way fat deposits in the face and where. They don't necessarily need "typical" features but the point of this thread is to help guys that aren't passing or aren't sure improve little things that might make a stranger decide they're seeing a male instead of a short-haired female.
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So, what do you think? Both recent photos, the first one was taken about five minutes ago, actually, and the second is just a photo of me in the waistcoat I'm wearing to my prom. I want to do something with my hair, but I don't know what. Do you guys have any suggestions? Oh, I'm pre-everything as well.
I recommend the undercut to everyone on this site :D. It made me look a lot more masculine, even though I have a round face shape (pre T btw). There's also loads of variations of the style to suit each individual. My pic is on this thread too if you want to have a look.
6 months on T update =D
How am I going so far?
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GammaHunter-
You have a great face for a masculin haircut. Get thoe bangs off your face. Think long on top sort on sides.
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All photos from the last few days while I've been in Germany. I seem to pass mostly, but as someone 3 years young than I am. Do I pass, and what age do I look?
Alright, lets give this a go! I posted a while back in this, but lets see how I'm doing!
(im realizing how few full body pics of me i have whoops)
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Me in the white sealife print button up, my awesome dad rockin the dadstache and my awesome boyfriend in the bowtie! How about that, a two for one! Do me and my boy pass well?
Heres a good one of my face!
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Heres hoping i finally pass well enough! (critique on how i can improve my passability appreciated)
Quote from: jayyylmao on June 26, 2015, 01:16:50 AMAll photos from the last few days while I've been in Germany. I seem to pass mostly, but as someone 3 years young than I am. Do I pass, and what age do I look?
I'd say you pass for about 15 or so (which is probably not the age you were hoping for) but it's a pass nonetheless!
Quote from: FlightyBrood on June 26, 2015, 01:34:35 AM
Alright, lets give this a go! I posted a while back in this, but lets see how I'm doing!
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Heres hoping i finally pass well enough! (critique on how i can improve my passability appreciated)
IMO you're ready for the "You look badass, dude!" topic, bro, especially with that stache coming through! If you don't pass, someone needs to get their eyes checked, from what I'm seeing, but the only thing I can think of is that I know someone's mentioned that dyed hair in androgynous looks can sometimes help push people's final decisions over into perceiving you as female, when the colour is considered an "unnatural" tone. But here I don't think it hurts your cause, so I don't know what else you could do, since I don't think you really need anything more to pass.
Quote from: AndrewB on June 26, 2015, 08:02:20 AM
I'd say you pass for about 15 or so (which is probably not the age you were hoping for) but it's a pass nonetheless!
I am fifteen.. winning at the moment :)
Quote from: jayyylmao on June 26, 2015, 10:58:47 AM
I am fifteen.. winning at the moment :)
Ah, good news! Usually when trans guys look 15 they're thirty, so congrats on looking your age!
i changed the old glasses cause people told me it looks feminine and also i try to smile in the pic not sure if i still pass what u guys think?!
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Quote from: jossef-ftm on July 02, 2015, 09:15:42 PM
i changed the old glasses cause people told me it looks feminine and also i try to smile in the pic not sure if i still pass what u guys think?!
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Hey you look great Jossef! Definite pass and a nice smile. Those glasses do give a nice masculine touch.
Quote from: jossef-ftm on July 02, 2015, 09:15:42 PM
i changed the old glasses cause people told me it looks feminine and also i try to smile in the pic not sure if i still pass what u guys think?!
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Looking good! I think the thicker frames angle your face nicely. :)
if you want my honest answer, you look boyish but more so on the fem side still. may be my eyes from my exhausting have to work on the fourth of July with a pack store and I'm the only one here to get clothes out.
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Quote from: Matthew on July 04, 2015, 11:20:03 AM
What do people think? I've been misgendered quite a few times recently, wondering if it's because my hair's growing out :/
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I think it might be the hair. You do look more male in you avatar pic with the shorter hair.
It's been a while since I last posted, but I got some pictures of me taken today and I just hit the 7 months on T mark.
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I was rather unsure of how I passed, but the lady who was in charge of the kitchen at the wedding I went to called me a 'Good boy' and just before that they were offering alcoholic drinks and I was the only one at the table offered a non alcoholic drink. So I was wondering, do you think I pass? And how old would you guess?
Quote from: Dalex on July 04, 2015, 07:28:37 PM
It's been a while since I last posted, but I got some pictures of me taken today and I just hit the 7 months on T mark.
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I was rather unsure of how I passed, but the lady who was in charge of the kitchen at the wedding I went to called me a 'Good boy' and just before that they were offering alcoholic drinks and I was the only one at the table offered a non alcoholic drink. So I was wondering, do you think I pass? And how old would you guess?
Dalex, you are looking great! T really works well for you!
A definite pass. I would say about 20 years old? Maybe older if it was pushed? I think it would depend on how mature you acted. I will tell you that having an "adult" haircut like you do takes you out of the looking like a teenager range (so good choice).
Never actually been misgendered for the past 3/4 years. But I'd like to be able to improve.
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This one was about 6 months ago.
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This one was about 5 minutes ago.
How well would you say I pass, and also how old do I look?
Quote from: Zeno on July 05, 2015, 10:46:11 AM
Never actually been misgendered for the past 3/4 years. But I'd like to be able to improve.
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This one was about 6 months ago.
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This one was about 5 minutes ago.
How well would you say I pass, and also how old do I look?
I would say you pass, and I'd guess your age to be about 12-13.
I think you pass. I think you look 11-12 years old in the first picture and a solid 12 in the second picture.
Quote from: Zeno on July 05, 2015, 10:46:11 AM
Never actually been misgendered for the past 3/4 years. But I'd like to be able to improve.
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This one was about 6 months ago.
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How well would you say I pass, and also how old do I look?
You pass and look great!I bet you make some male peers jealous! :) Yep,you look 11 to me
Quote from: Dalex on July 04, 2015, 07:28:37 PM
It's been a while since I last posted, but I got some pictures of me taken today and I just hit the 7 months on T mark.
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I was rather unsure of how I passed, but the lady who was in charge of the kitchen at the wedding I went to called me a 'Good boy' and just before that they were offering alcoholic drinks and I was the only one at the table offered a non alcoholic drink. So I was wondering, do you think I pass? And how old would you guess?
100% pass..but you look young,maybe 17?T needs more time..just be patient.
@Andre87, Bimmer Guy and AeroZeppelin92
Thanks. I'm actually 14, nearly 15, but I get it a lot that I look about 11 so I don't really care. I'd rather people think I'm younger than older seeing as I can still pay kids prices for everything. xD
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3 and a 1/2 months on T. I pass pretty consistently but I'm not sure if it's just because my voice is dropped, so I wanted to get some opinions. :)
Quote from: RowansJourney on July 07, 2015, 02:06:26 PM
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3 and a 1/2 months on T. I pass pretty consistently but I'm not sure if it's just because my voice is dropped, so I wanted to get some opinions. :)
I'd say you pass fine. (sorry that's probably way off xD). Also, is your hair blue? It looks really cool on you. :P
Quote from: Zeno on July 07, 2015, 04:50:30 PM
I'd say you pass fine. (sorry that's probably way off xD). Also, is your hair blue? It looks really cool on you. :P
Yes it is blue!! Thank you so much! ;D
Here goes, I guess.
I am pre everything.
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It's been a year since I posted here last time and I haven't made any substantial weight loss changes though some fat has moved more to my stomach but haven't managed to get rid on the fat on my hips and thighs much fml, but would like some input especially concerning hip to shoulder ratio. I am still so fussed about my extra hip fat and I can't make an objective evaluation of myself. Wearing two different shirts because I think the smaller one (first photo) makes my body more justice than the bigger one (but trying to find shirts in my size is almost impossible). My shorts are too big and I should probably find a slimmer pair because I am not that broad but I cba to change pair right now:
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My first time posting in one of these threads...
My name's Dylan, and I'm pre-everything.
However I just got a hair cut and some new clothes today, and I thought I looked really good (plus some people have started to correctly gender me out and about recently), so I thought I'd see what people think.
My glasses are still a little feminine (I think) (also broken), so I'm getting new ones some time next week, I'm still losing weight, and my black binder shows under the white shirt. But those are all minor things :)
Anyway, here's me:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/377/19591759735_f53f83cdf2_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vRfTAX)
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/350/18969193654_52fdbea38e_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uUf5p1)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3810/19596077961_6fa9230eb3_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vRD2g8)
So I'm off to work and I realized I never actually posted a full body of me in my work clothes. Sorry for the mess I was running late and in a hurry.
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Quote from: Ephemeral on July 10, 2015, 07:48:21 AM
It's been a year since I posted here last time and I haven't made any substantial weight loss changes though some fat has moved more to my stomach but haven't managed to get rid on the fat on my hips and thighs much fml, but would like some input especially concerning hip to shoulder ratio. I am still so fussed about my extra hip fat and I can't make an objective evaluation of myself. Wearing two different shirts because I think the smaller one (first photo) makes my body more justice than the bigger one (but trying to find shirts in my size is almost impossible). My shorts are too big and I should probably find a slimmer pair because I am not that broad but I cba to change pair right now:
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Definite pass on the body. I feel for pain too I have kinda small thighs but I've found with I wear skinny shorts it slims me out and doesn't look like they are eating me alive.
Quote from: ekobor on July 10, 2015, 08:34:53 PM
My first time posting in one of these threads...
My name's Dylan, and I'm pre-everything.
However I just got a hair cut and some new clothes today, and I thought I looked really good (plus some people have started to correctly gender me out and about recently), so I thought I'd see what people think.
My glasses are still a little feminine (I think) (also broken), so I'm getting new ones some time next week, I'm still losing weight, and my black binder shows under the white shirt. But those are all minor things :)
Anyway, here's me:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/377/19591759735_f53f83cdf2_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vRfTAX)
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/350/18969193654_52fdbea38e_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uUf5p1)
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I'd say pass and ya the glasses aren't doing you any favors. Hmm maybe if you went with bigger frames it would help out. I will warn you that it takes some to adjust to the new size
Thanks everyone :)
@ekobor
Pre everything? I'd still say you pass pretty damn well :) The haircut suits you and well, like the previous person before me said, trying out bigger frames for when you have a look at glasses actually might not be a bad idea :)
@RowansJourney
Also I'd say pass, and love the hair dude! I was actually thinking of going for a bit of blue in my hair as well :P
@ gage.tyler
I'd also say pass, albeit a bit on the younger side, but a pass :) Also, love the blue xD
Quote from: Ephemeral on July 10, 2015, 07:48:21 AM
It's been a year since I posted here last time and I haven't made any substantial weight loss changes though some fat has moved more to my stomach but haven't managed to get rid on the fat on my hips and thighs much fml, but would like some input especially concerning hip to shoulder ratio. I am still so fussed about my extra hip fat and I can't make an objective evaluation of myself. Wearing two different shirts because I think the smaller one (first photo) makes my body more justice than the bigger one (but trying to find shirts in my size is almost impossible). My shorts are too big and I should probably find a slimmer pair because I am not that broad but I cba to change pair right now:
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Hey man, as far as your ratio without an actual boardshorts or underwear shot it's always hard to tell. But it does seem like your hips and shoulders match up pretty normally for a guy so thats good. I see you're concerned about your weight and cardio would certainly help you thin out a good bit around those areas so i recommend that if you'd like. Apart from that if you do lose weight and you're stil not satisfied the best thing you can do (which is what I'm currently doing) is work on your shoulder and your back in a gym. That way regardless of your ratio you can expand those parts and by comparison they'll make your hips and thighs much less noticeable to the everyday eye.
On the shirts the 2nd one gives you a much more male rectangular shape while the first one noticeably hands around your waist a bit. Hope that helped a bit
Quote from: JHeron on July 11, 2015, 12:52:37 PM
Hey man, as far as your ratio without an actual boardshorts or underwear shot it's always hard to tell. But it does seem like your hips and shoulders match up pretty normally for a guy so thats good. I see you're concerned about your weight and cardio would certainly help you thin out a good bit around those areas so i recommend that if you'd like. Apart from that if you do lose weight and you're stil not satisfied the best thing you can do (which is what I'm currently doing) is work on your shoulder and your back in a gym. That way regardless of your ratio you can expand those parts and by comparison they'll make your hips and thighs much less noticeable to the everyday eye.
On the shirts the 2nd one gives you a much more male rectangular shape while the first one noticeably hands around your waist a bit. Hope that helped a bit
Been doing cardio to and from for over a year, so no, it's not working as effectively as I'd like. Uneven work hours really cut into the regime, I think, as it can sometimes be difficult to squeeze in time for the gym before they close. I've lost fast on my arms (wrists) and exactly on the hips where my underwear line goes lol. I've tried to bulk up a bit on my upper body but I am not much for bulking. I am pretty happy with how my upper body loops overall, and what I'd really like right now is to lose my excess fat. It would also shape my upper body very nicely too and make the muscles more visible.
Yeah consistency's a big part of it. Have you been working on your speed? I go to a 24hr planet fitness in my town and it always works out. Treadmills suck I know but they're a great way to track your progress that way you'll know if you're challenging yourself ya know? If you don't want to bulk up then cardio it up consistently. Lifting small weight for long reps will help your upper upper body tone up while not necessarily making muscles bigger.
Haven't done this in a while. What do you guys think? I know I probably look 12 but is there potential? Im working on my losing some lower body fat to look more proportional..
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Quote from: JHeron on July 11, 2015, 03:42:52 PM
Haven't done this in a while. What do you guys think? I know I probably look 12 but is there potential? Im working on my losing some lower body fat to look more proportional..
You look great, man! I'd say your proportions are fine the way they are. It's hard to tell in the last pic, but I think that you look a bit older without them, just gauging from the first picture versus the second. Definitely a pass, and age-wise... first pic I'd say 17-19, and in the second maybe 15-17.
Ah gee thanks dude that makes sense the 2nd one was about two years ago but i thought the others didnt really show my face so i tried compensate haha I just can't wait til I'm on T
Quote from: JHeron on July 11, 2015, 03:21:17 PM
Yeah consistency's a big part of it. Have you been working on your speed? I go to a 24hr planet fitness in my town and it always works out. Treadmills suck I know but they're a great way to track your progress that way you'll know if you're challenging yourself ya know? If you don't want to bulk up then cardio it up consistently. Lifting small weight for long reps will help your upper upper body tone up while not necessarily making muscles bigger.
Yeah, I know all the ins and outs of cardio and how to build and lose muscle. All the machines keep track of calorie burn, so that's not an issue. I try to go at least 3 times a week but I wonder if I need to do more cardio since I seem to just keep my weight, but I don't seem to lose anything. Only difference that's occurred is that when I decided to bulk up my upper body a bit more I gained 2-3 kg mass. I don't seem to lose anything though.
Quote from: Ephemeral on July 11, 2015, 08:49:20 PM
Yeah, I know all the ins and outs of cardio and how to build and lose muscle. All the machines keep track of calorie burn, so that's not an issue. I try to go at least 3 times a week but I wonder if I need to do more cardio since I seem to just keep my weight, but I don't seem to lose anything. Only difference that's occurred is that when I decided to bulk up my upper body a bit more I gained 2-3 kg mass. I don't seem to lose anything though.
I don't exactly know your dietary conditions but here's something to remember: weight loss starts in the kitchen. You can't make up for 23 hours of bad behaviour and nutrition with 1 hour of exercise, no matter how intense.
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So, do I pass ?
I'm pre-T
Quote from: SmartAlex on July 14, 2015, 01:47:04 PM
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So, do I pass ?
I'm pre-T
Yeah, you pass to me!
always people told me that my glasses are feminine and give my face more feminin look,i didn't believe at first but i noticed lately everytime i put a pic on fb or insta people start asking about my gender so i think its time to change the glasses ,i changed it to black rayban glasses do you think i pass and does it look feminin too?!!
this is me with old galsses.
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this is me with the new glasses.
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What an incredible improvement new glasses made, Jossef! I don't know what helps more—the new colour or new shape—but either way, you look awesome dude. Nice choice!
Quote from: AndrewB on July 19, 2015, 07:18:16 PM
What an incredible improvement new glasses made, Jossef! I don't know what helps more—the new colour or new shape—but either way, you look awesome dude. Nice choice!
I can only sign it.
Still don't get it, how someone could think, that you'd be female with those old glasses though.
They just aren't looking that good like your new glasses ;)
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Quote from: jossef-ftm on July 19, 2015, 06:56:02 PM
always people told me that my glasses are feminine and give my face more feminin look,i didn't believe at first but i noticed lately everytime i put a pic on fb or insta people start asking about my gender so i think its time to change the glasses ,i changed it to black rayban glasses do you think i pass and does it look feminin too?!!
this is me with old galsses.
Am I the only one who actually liked your old glasses better? Idk, maybe different camera angles would make me change my mind. But your old glasses look very masculine, and the style makes you look older (they look like young dad glasses, if that makes sense). The new ones remind me of a slightly smaller version of my old pair. For myself, I found that they made my face look shorter and chubbier because they were so big. I think smaller glasses help your face look longer and more male.
Either way, I think you look very male! You have good, thick eyebrows, and that will make you look more like a guy no matter what glasses you wear! (I plucked mine for too many years, and they're very thin now; I'm actually very jealous of your eyebrows!)
Do I still pass? I'm not feeling great especially with the fact I am overweight and pre everything.
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Ok that's not the greatest quality but it was the only thing that at least involved some of my body
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Here is my face (sorry it is black and white but I thought I looked like one of those old movie stars and idk.)
MenoImagination, I think you pass more in the second pic, but I think it's a pass for both. It could be the glasses in the 1st pic, or the angle, or the different hairstyles, or a combo of all 3. It's hard to say.
Also don't worry about being overweight, in fact when you get into the "husky" range of just being a little over, sometimes it can help with passing. It did for me, anyway. You have great bone structure, and your face isn't really rounded at all, so for pre-everything you're rocking what you got. Chin up!
Menoimagination, you definitely look very good for pre-T. If anyone was going to pass, it would be you. As Andrew said, the cut of your jaw helps. Your larger shoulders (for a female) and lack of hips is very helpful, as well. Your body is actually quite similar to mine before I started T and I think that helped me be read as male back then.
I think you are pretty lucky, actually, as I bet after your first voice drop will start being read consistently as male, if you aren't already.
I can't believe I'm putting my picture up, but here goes nothing!
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(Took me forever to figure out how to upload this btw, I think flickr was being fickle.)
Sorry, I don't have many pictures of myself to choose from. Pre-T, I pass fairly often (until people hear my voice). How old do I look? Anything I should try to change? Maybe I'll be able to get a better picture later so I can ask some hair advice (even though I'm always wearing a hat, I still never know what to do for men's hairstyles).
I want to try to get a picture with my glasses sometime so I can hear what you guys think. They're men's frames but I seem to get "she" more often when wearing them.
@Menoimagination:
I totally think you pass! You've got very strong, masculine facial features. I love the detail in your cheeks. Also, you've got a crazy male hairline for someone who's pre-everything! You will do so well on T, no doubt!
Quote from: Muscle Matt on August 06, 2015, 10:58:19 PM
I can't believe I'm putting my picture up, but here goes nothing!
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(Took me forever to figure out how to upload this btw, I think flickr was being fickle.)
Sorry, I don't have many pictures of myself to choose from. Pre-T, I pass fairly often (until people hear my voice). How old do I look? Anything I should try to change? Maybe I'll be able to get a better picture later so I can ask some hair advice (even though I'm always wearing a hat, I still never know what to do for men's hairstyles).
I want to try to get a picture with my glasses sometime so I can hear what you guys think. They're men's frames but I seem to get "she" more often when wearing them.
@Menoimagination:
I totally think you pass! You've got very strong, masculine facial features. I love the detail in your cheeks. Also, you've got a crazy male hairline for someone who's pre-everything! You will do so well on T, no doubt!
You definitely pass man. I don't have any suggestions. You already have a pretty masculine hairline, from what I can see of your hair it looks fine
Quote from: Muscle Matt on August 06, 2015, 10:58:19 PM
I can't believe I'm putting my picture up, but here goes nothing!
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(Took me forever to figure out how to upload this btw, I think flickr was being fickle.)
Sorry, I don't have many pictures of myself to choose from. Pre-T, I pass fairly often (until people hear my voice). How old do I look? Anything I should try to change? Maybe I'll be able to get a better picture later so I can ask some hair advice (even though I'm always wearing a hat, I still never know what to do for men's hairstyles).
I want to try to get a picture with my glasses sometime so I can hear what you guys think. They're men's frames but I seem to get "she" more often when wearing them.
@Menoimagination:
I totally think you pass! You've got very strong, masculine facial features. I love the detail in your cheeks. Also, you've got a crazy male hairline for someone who's pre-everything! You will do so well on T, no doubt!
the only thing that throws me off is your eyebrows, they're a little thin to be considered masculine; unless you're androgynous, which is perfectly fine! definitely a pass. t will work wonders for you
Quote from: palexander on August 07, 2015, 11:02:55 AM
the only thing that throws me off is your eyebrows, they're a little thin to be considered masculine; unless you're androgynous, which is perfectly fine! definitely a pass. t will work wonders for you
Thanks!
The sad part is I actually wear an eyebrow powder to fill them in. I havent touched my brows in over 6 months, but I think I plucked them for too long for them to grow back normally. My hairs are still slowly coming back, but I might not get any noticeable difference until I get on T. My natural brows pre-plucking were thick in every way. :/ Im actually trying to remember to buy castor oil (I think thats the one) and see if it can help my hair growth any.
Have you tried shaving a bit? I know weird, but I noticed after I started shaving bits instead of tweezing them they grew back much fuller than before.
Hi there.
Do you have any tips for me for passing? I'm only out to one friend, my girlfriend, and my therapist **and to you lovely internetters :). My next step is to try going into a public space and see how it feels to pass to strangers. I'm worried that I won't be able to pass and won't be able to experience this crucial step.
Whaddya think? In this picture I'm wearing my binder and packer.
http://imgur.com/VJgqv5s
Quote from: Escher on August 08, 2015, 02:19:35 AM
Hi there.
Do you have any tips for me for passing? I'm only out to one friend, my girlfriend, and my therapist **and to you lovely internetters :). My next step is to try going into a public space and see how it feels to pass to strangers. I'm worried that I won't be able to pass and won't be able to experience this crucial step.
Whaddya think? In this picture I'm wearing my binder and packer.
http://imgur.com/VJgqv5s
I think you look really good dude. The thing about passing is having confidence. I make sure to be confident, kind of stand up straight, and give a lot of eye contact when I can. It's hard to do that when you are still binding and I know I didn't have any confidence at all when I still had my boobs. After getting surgery and going back to work I have much more and I feel 1000000% better than I did. I'm much more vocal at my job and started to be more authoritative than I have in the past. I'm able to speak to strangers without feeling like they are judging me. I also don't cross my arms over my chest anymore because I was trying to hide my chest. I think doing that made people look at my chest and I know people looked at it when I put my arms down (at least that's how I felt)
Quote from: RaptorChops on August 08, 2015, 08:51:41 AM
I think you look really good dude. The thing about passing is having confidence. I make sure to be confident, kind of stand up straight, and give a lot of eye contact when I can. It's hard to do that when you are still binding and I know I didn't have any confidence at all when I still had my boobs. After getting surgery and going back to work I have much more and I feel 1000000% better than I did. I'm much more vocal at my job and started to be more authoritative than I have in the past. I'm able to speak to strangers without feeling like they are judging me. I also don't cross my arms over my chest anymore because I was trying to hide my chest. I think doing that made people look at my chest and I know people looked at it when I put my arms down (at least that's how I felt)
thank you for this comment.
i was wondering whether surgery would give me the confidence and self worth that i desperately need....and i think that it will. i'm similar to you, from what i read.
Quote from: Escher on August 08, 2015, 02:19:35 AM
Hi there.
Do you have any tips for me for passing? I'm only out to one friend, my girlfriend, and my therapist **and to you lovely internetters :). My next step is to try going into a public space and see how it feels to pass to strangers. I'm worried that I won't be able to pass and won't be able to experience this crucial step.
Whaddya think? In this picture I'm wearing my binder and packer.
http://imgur.com/VJgqv5s
Definitely pass! You'll probably be nervous the first few times, but the more you go into public (and especially the more times you're gendered correctly), the more comfortable you'll become.
im not on t yet but i've been gendered correctly in public twice (before they heard my voice) and im not sure if it was because of eyesight since the two people who called me "he" were around 70-80 so im still pretty unsure if i do or not
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thoughts?
Quote from: goblin boy on August 09, 2015, 11:43:59 PM
im not on t yet but i've been gendered correctly in public twice (before they heard my voice) and im not sure if it was because of eyesight since the two people who called me "he" were around 70-80 so im still pretty unsure if i do or not
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thoughts?
Wow, I love your haircut. You pass to me!
I also had my hair bleached for some time and found that I passed substantially less for some reason..
My voice also tends to give me away sometimes but I try to emulate voice patterns and lower it as much as I comfortably can, which helps. But then again I end up passing as a 14-15 year old boy or sometimes even younger due to looks and voice.
If you're concerned about your voice there are youtube videos on how to lower it. It won't go down as much as T will make it but it may help. Good luck! :)
P.S. Don't forget to be confident. It goes a long way.
I apologize for the double post, but I was curious: How well does my body pass?
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(Please do not quote the picture, as I want to take it down eventually.) The parts where my shirt juts out is extra fabric, it just happens when the shirt bunches up.
I have a pretty masculine face and all but my hips are huge and sometimes hinder my passing ability. It's even worse in the summer as I don't have many options to layer up.
On a side note, I've started training again recently and feel really good about myself. I'm still twiggy and short but at least I'm a little bit less twiggy than I was a year ago! :D
Maleth, your body looks good! Even though it's not toned or anything, your shoulder to hip ratio is spot on! One of the most important things when passing! :) Maybe your hips looks different in other outfits or without clothes, but from this picture it looks really good (I also have hips that look completely different in clothes, so I know how it is).
With some daily pushups and shoulder exercises, you can achieve a strong, masculine triangle shape in no time! Then you'll have to worry even less about your hips! :) I think you're at a great starting point for a workout regime.
Quote from: Maleth on August 10, 2015, 06:33:05 AM
I apologize for the double post, but I was curious: How well does my body pass?
I think if your face passes, I personally wouldn't do a double take at your body. Looks like a typical cis guy shape to me.
Quote from: Kuritzk on August 13, 2015, 03:25:27 AM
I think if your face passes, I personally wouldn't do a double take at your body. Looks like a typical cis guy shape to me.
Ditto.
Alright, thanks for the feedback, guys! My hips really cause me lots of dysphoria but the feedback I've gotten has made me feel better about em. ;D
Quote from: goblin boy on August 09, 2015, 11:43:59 PM
im not on t yet but i've been gendered correctly in public twice (before they heard my voice) and im not sure if it was because of eyesight since the two people who called me "he" were around 70-80 so im still pretty unsure if i do or not
https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11796320_137469983263687_6198696675723904403_n.jpg?oh=4206f2d69689326e88f625dc8c71bd85&oe=5645E6B3
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thoughts?
How old are you? I think you have kind of an androgynous look, but you could pass for a young boy if it weren't for the piercings (not that you should take them out, but not a lot of young boys have piercings so that's something that might steer someone away from thinking that). It's kind of hard to tell from the angle of these pictures, though.
Hey guys,
It's my first time posting here and I'm feeling a bit awkward, but whatever, here goes nothing!
Please refer to my avatar for this post. I don't have any full length shots as A) my arms aren't long enough, B) I don't have a full mirror and C) I'd have to ask someone else to take the picture and as someone who generally dislikes photographs it'll likely be questioned for being "out of character". Okay enough whining, it'd be great if I could get some feedback just based off the face picture, if that's okay for now?
I'm pre-T and for the most part get gendered as male provided I keep my mouth closed (as in, I don't talk) and provided none of my family members call me she, daughter, sister or granddaughter while I'm the only one nearby. That's getting annoying, and hopefully will stop once I get a voice drop induced by T... if it doesn't, well I'll work on that then. Anyway, misgendering because I talked is all fine and dandy as I'm not really a big talker out in public, let alone private.
On occasion I do get read as female which does bother me somewhat. I understand that with my body size/weight it's going to be harder to hide things like wider hips and not so flat chests (I do bind, though it isn't 100% flattening). Are there things I can do in the meantime to increase the likelihood of me passing? I'm in need of a haircut again, I previously had a faux hawk style cut but I never styled it. I found out the other day (when my avatar pic was taken) that putty tames the fluffy look my hair gets when I wash it, so that's great. Yes my face is roundish looking both due to weight and genetics. I'm working on losing weight... but ah, that's one tough battle with health issues.
Clothes wise, I tend to wear mostly black/dark coloured masculine clothes and avoid full length pants, instead favouring knee length cargos or denim shorts (my legs are way too short for the 32" mens jeans that seem to get sold everywhere). I do have a sewing machine and have hemmed stuff before, so if longer pants help I can get on that. As my proportions are typical to a more feminine body shape (in my opinion anyway), I'm worried that if I continue to use mens bathrooms (I get stares and comments in the womens) I'm going to get clocked and have more than some comments thrown my way. I feel horrible thinking that people would do that, but hey, anxiety is fun! ._.
Mannerism wise, I probably do have a few stereotypically feminine traits such as talking with hands, ending my sentences with a higher pitch (or is that an Aussie thing?), and being a doormat when it comes to assertiveness.
Long story short, does my avatar/face pass? XD
Hey Venom,
I have the same problem about my voice in public. The times I actually do get a "sir" in public, I'll speak and people get flustered and "correct" themselves. It can be frustrating, but T should help with that. Pre-T I've heard of some guys having luck doing vocal exercises and such.
I wouldn't over stressed about your mannerisms or style. (Though it's awesome you know how to hem pants, I just have to roll my up.) Just be confident in yourself and who you are. I know that's hard to do, but still worth trying.
Personally I think you pass great in your avatar shot. Even though you say your face is rounder, it doesn't look femininely round to me. (Hope that makes sense) And I think your hairstyle works well for you.
Thanks AbeLane, I appreciate your feedback! My hair was quite a bit shorter than I usually have it when I first got it cut, but since it's grown out it's in-between a bit too long and just right length wise. When I don't use product/putty stuff it sits on my face... so I've started using product, and my hair stays put!
The voice thing can be a bit upsetting, especially if people get flustered and make a deal out of it, like you've experienced. I haven't had people correct themselves in an overt manner before, though I have had people refer to me with neutral words (like person), then use lady after I speak. Somewhat frustrating, but hey, T will likely help with that as you've also said. Your on T now aren't you? All the best with hrt! If they start calling me mate or buddy (typically used in reference to masculine appearing people in my part of the world), they either drop the use of mate or buddy afterwards or continue using it. Hmm; it's mostly guys that use mate and buddy now that I think of it. Haven't been sir'd yet, though that could be due to my age. Beats me.
Aha, confidence, we meet again! Unfortunately confidence is a big issue for me, depression and anxiety make that difficult. However, I have noticed since I received my updated birth certificate after a legal name change that I am more confident in myself. Contacting all these places to update my name has been an all round positive experience which has helped that a lot. As for the other confidence problems, I'm in therapy (for depression/anxiety) and it's something I am working on. Nonetheless, I do appreciate your recommendation not to stress too much about it! 8)
Yep, it makes perfect sense to me and thank you there as well! I've lost a lot of the "baby fat" but still have a fair amount of normal fat, but I'm working on losing some weight which should help with it. T might help as well with masculising facial shape with redistribution of fat, but I'm not going to hold out for much there. All in all thank you very much for your feedback. :D
I'm pre everything. I feel like my hips are such an issue and my face is just...babyish =_="
Excellent advice floating around
@Goblinboy: I think you pass and you remind me of the dudes I hung out with in school to boot. You have great eyebrows too. Maybe consider shaving the sides of your noggin down a bit? Your hair in the second pic is 100% babe central.
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Quote from: Hellboi on August 27, 2015, 03:14:37 PM
I'm pre everything. I feel like my hips are such an issue and my face is just...babyish =_="
Excellent advice floating around
@Goblinboy: I think you pass and you remind me of the dudes I hung out with in school to boot. You have great eyebrows too. Maybe consider shaving the sides of your noggin down a bit? Your hair in the second pic is 100% babe central.
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it might be the angle, but i feel like you pass more in the first photo. the second one gives off myspace girl vibes to me... lol. your hair definitely suits you, though! don't worry about your hips; t will help with that. meanwhile, do some shoulder exercises to broader your shoulders...so they're more aligned with your hips!
I think you pass, helboi. You look like one of the boys I know at school.
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The barber misunderstood "trim so it looks neat and i can go back to school with my usual slicked back side part" and now I feel a bit bald and I worry I wont pass as well... I go back to school tomorrow and I am scared someone will misgender me because I have seen lesbians with this hair style and I know from all those sites that talk about passing that with my weak and girly facial structure people are more likely to think "lesbian" than "boy" and idk. Do I still pass?
@MenoImagination, I actually really like that hairstyle on you, and I don't think it hinders your passing ability one bit. Also, I don't know what you mean by "weak and girly facial structure," you've got a jawline I could practically cut myself on. Super jealous of that angular shape, dude.
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Posted here a while back, just like an update I guess.
Quote from: Zeno on September 02, 2015, 01:23:35 PM
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Posted here a while back, just like an update I guess.
you definitely pass and look your age :)
Hi everyone, first time posting. I am pre everything. Could you tell me if I could pass, and also my age. also if u don't think i pass, please say why. thank you very much!
sorry if i did anything wrong, this is the first picture I've ever uploaded.
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I definitely think you have potential! I actually thought this was the trans women thread at first and you were asking the other way around lol. I had to go back through and fix it! So yes! You already passed at least in my mind!
Thank you, i fixed my reply too. :)
Quote from: Judepunk on September 03, 2015, 09:34:48 AM
Hi everyone, first time posting. I am pre everything. Could you tell me if I could pass, and also my age. also if u don't think i pass, please say why. thank you very much!
sorry if i did anything wrong, this is the first picture I've ever uploaded.
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I think you're more in the androgynous realm, rather than looking definitively either/or. I would say that the way your shirt is gives off a more feminine look due to the low scoop of the neck.
Does my body pass? I'm approaching a year on T and there hasn't been a whole lot of fat redistribution. Which sucks, considering I have a super feminine shape.
In the left picture I'm wearing tighter pants than I normally would, but a larger shirt (although it's from hot topic so the fit is a little weird). In the right one I'm wearing basketball shorts, which I don't wear that often, and a tighter shirt than I would normally wear.
http://imgur.com/a/KjCRw
I also have super weird disproportionately small hands that I'm really insecure about, but it's a little harder to hide that considering how many things I do with my hands.
You definitely look like a cis dude from this angle.
Quote from: lionheart on September 12, 2015, 09:55:46 PM
Does my body pass? I'm approaching a year on T and there hasn't been a whole lot of fat redistribution. Which sucks, considering I have a super feminine shape.
In the left picture I'm wearing tighter pants than I normally would, but a larger shirt (although it's from hot topic so the fit is a little weird). In the right one I'm wearing basketball shorts, which I don't wear that often, and a tighter shirt than I would normally wear.
http://imgur.com/a/KjCRw
I also have super weird disproportionately small hands that I'm really insecure about, but it's a little harder to hide that considering how many things I do with my hands.
I wouldn't worry about your hands, really. They look proportionate to me. In fact, I think your hands look bigger than mine (I have tiny hands but there's nothing I can do about it so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
Also if you want to help masculinization your shape, try lifting weights and lowering your bodyfat%. You don't have a high bodyfat, I would guess around 20% from the pics. If you dropped a few % I guarantee you'd see improvement in having a more masculine shape. Men naturally have lower bodyfat than women
But yes, I'd say you pass. I'd stick with the larger shirt
Lionheart, I think your body passes fine. Your hands look proportionate. i have seen trans guys with smaller hands, for certain.
Quote from: lionheart on September 12, 2015, 09:55:46 PM
Body definitely passes, ya look like a dude and a regular proportioned one at that. If you are concerned about fat redistribution and your physique, you should slim down some. I think you'd be amazed at the difference. Changes in body fat are going to be much more subtle if you already have excess body fat.
Lionheart, I would definitely say you pass. More so in the looser shirt, but in the tighter shirt you just look like a cis dude with the kind of awesome bubble butt my gay male friends would kill to have (and occasionally add padding in order to make, LOL). There is definitely nothing in those pics that says feminine to me at all.
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So I'm pre-T and aware I'm not the most passable dude ever--this is actually one of the better pictures scarily enough--but I was wondering... do my eyebrows pass? See, I have almost no eyebrows so about a year ago I got very feminine eyebrows done with permanent makeup which takes between 2-4 years to fade away. So not only am I dealing with the fact that I have practically no eyebrow hair at all, I am also trying to hide my permanent makeup with regular makeup. Success? Do they look guyish or still girlish? Or do I just look like I took a Sharpie to my face, a genderlessly horrific style? (By the way, I know that this is a crappy haircut for passing but I am living in the Caribbean until the end of November, there is no A/C and it is HOT HOT HOT so the buzz cut is my buddy for now!)
And in case you were wondering, I just took a shower in this pic, hence all the water dripping off me.
FtMitch, honestly its hard to tell if the eyebrows are working off one photo. They looked fine to me and I didn't know they were makeup till you mentioned it. I can't say how they hold up in person though.
You do pass in this photo IMO.
Here are a couple work photos. I'm in a girls uniform so try and ignore that. I'm waiting on some mens shirts but they are taking a while since I need an extra small. I'm feeling decent today though.
http://imgur.com/a/I1EDk
Hey WanderingFace, looking good! The close up pic (pic number one) is a little more feminine, but that's probably just from being able to see the darker lash color since it's a closer shot. The second pic is a pretty good pass--I would say that combined with a men's uniform and masculine body movements you will definitely be passing. :)
@FTMitch, you look good! I think that the buzz cut doesn't look so bad on you because your face isn't very round so it isn't as bad. You pass IMO.
@WanderingFace, I agree with Mitch that you pass a little bit more in the second picture due to your long eyelashes, but keep in mind that guys usually have longer eyelashes (at least that's what I heard). So flaunt 'em. :) Depending on mannerisms and clothing, I'd say it's a pass.
Thanks for the input guys. Good to know I'm on the right track, even with crummy photos like those.
I'm not hyper masculine but I'm not femme at all. Besides my work uniform all my clothes are guys clothes. I threw out my last girls clothes about five years ago.
I'll have to update in what is a normal outfit for me at some point. According to my girlfriend I have pretty typical male patterned speech for our area. I've received a few odd stares as of late since I think I'm passing into an androgynous zone overall with my voice and looks combined.
Wow, you guys all look great. :)
I know it's easy to be insecure and focus on all the negatives you perceive, but I must say, I don't see anything to be insecure about.
I've been keeping tabs on this topic for a while, and finally decided to join this wonderful website officially.
So, anyway, recently I've been wanting a haircut. With my hair at the length it is now, it tends to get all poofy (especially fresh out of a shower), and I always feel as though it emphasizes my feminine facial structure (though the poofy-ness isn't really bad in these pictures).
Here's two (sort of crappy - I apologize) pictures. I know it would help to get new glasses, but I haven't gotten around to it yet.
Regarding being read as male, I'm pretty sure most see me as female, though my one friend seems to disagree.
What do you guys think? I appreciate complete honesty.
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I would appreciate any haircut suggestions. :)
IAmAiden'sUsername, I definitely see you as male. You don't come off female to me at all. Maybe a little on the young side, but definitely male. I honestly like the hair; however, if you are worried that it may be feminizing you then I would suggest shortening it on the sides and trimming some on the top. That way it won't poof around your head so much. But honestly it look great to me.
Never inserted a picture this way before so I hope it works.
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I am blessed with my dad's jaw :P. I'm pre-anything and pass more than 50% of the time I'd say, but I get a lot of confused gazes. Especially because I'm not open and blunt about wearing a binder yet, I wear it but then camouflage the flat chest with a sweater (contradictory much).
What do you guys think?
FtMitch: Oh, awesome! I'm glad to hear that. Perhaps it's my voice that causes people to read me as female. Heheh, now I'm curious as to how young I appear. Oh ok, why thank you. I'm happy to hear you think my hair's nice. Maybe I'll leave it be for now and get it cut later. Thank you for the hair cut suggestions! :)
November Fox: Oh yeah! You've certainly got a nice jaw. All I see when I look at you is male. :)
Are you nervous about making it clear that you have a flatter chest now?
Ahh, heheh, yeah, I used to wear sweaters often too, but now I've gotten more into layering. Wearing a polo or button down shirt under a mostly unzipped zip up hoodie may help (that's pretty much what I always wear these days), but I'm no expert in 'passing'. It's always best to just wear what you like and what's comfortable, unless you really want to strive to be read as male, though I guess depending on what you like wearing the two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. Sometimes I get the urge to wear some of my old skinny jeans, but I never do just because I know I wouldn't be read as male at all.
But anyways...Bottom line is, yes, you definitely read as male to me.
Thanks!
Yeah I am definitely nervous about that. Mainly in front of people who've known me as female, and who I haven't told yet. I guess I am trying to get them used to the "mainly male" look first :P
I agree with FtMitch about the haircut. In my case it did help to shorten it up on the sides although I'm getting tired of this already, I'm going to have to experiment a bit as to what does look male and what doesn't...
Haha I like cargo and baggy pants so I have it kind of easy in that department. But I also like tight t-shirts and at the moment that's kind of an issue since I'm still shy to show the binded chest.
Inspired by my own writing, I've been wanting to bind for the past few days. So last night, using some clothing items i found in my room, i fashoined a temporary binder and tried it!! I must tell you I'm not a selfie person, but i couldn't stop photographing the image of me I've longed to see for years. So i thought I'd post a few here and see if i could pass with binding, now that the college would be starting next month and I'm hoping to present as male there.
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you look great YBtheOutlaw, so your intention is to attend college as a guy next month?
I'm hoping to, i mean i haven't made any arrangement yet but it'll be best for me to start with the start of college. I'm hoping to talk with a support group and find out whether it's ok with college administration. I can't say for sure I'll get a positive outcome, and if not I'm not sure what I'll end up doing. I'm just keeping my hopes high
EDIT: YBtheOutlaw - you look great, man. Sending you good vibes, re: college. Attending undergrad as a dude would have been great!
I love this picture because I feel like I look like one of those elementary school bullies in American cartoons. I took it in the bathroom of my lecture hall after one of my classmates called me "Butch" -- a la The Little Rascals. :D
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Sadly, my usual look (see the pic on the right) is a lot more girly lookin'. I'd definitely welcome tips!
YBtheOutlaw, to be able to start college as a guy would be great so everyone will know you as a guy. I would check with the administration to let them know what you are doing. I transitioned in college so there are many that know my history which unnerving at times wondering who knows what about me. Are you going to live in a dorm, this could be very challenging? I live alone in an apartment. I did have to take a PE course, choose golf where you didn't need to change and no one knew. Good luck to you in college.
thanks buddies. no matter how many times you convince yourself, outside inputs on your looks create the greatest effect.
college dorms are full and only seniors get chances there, so we have to find private boarding places. i'll be living in a room with another friend who is a girl, and i'm yet to come out to her. but i've heard her opinion on transgender people and know she'd be fine with it. i'm hoping to contact the administration through the support group, or a therapist the support group directs me to. this still sounds like a crazy idea to me but it is the only path i can see to continue my life. there will be about 25 people at college in my batch who already know me, but dealing with them is the least of my concerns. i gotta start being myself.
anyway, captains i got the same impression you mentioned from the photo on the left ;) as for tips i'm not so good at giving them but i'm feeling maybe your smile gives you a look too young. while i am totally against changing one's ways of living to fit into a stereotype, ugh i don't know. just live and smile the way you like man. those who judge will always judge.
I forget how to post images but I hope this works. The last time I posted here I was either pre-t or a couple of months on t. Now, I'm almost 10 months in to medical transition. I even passed over the phone for the first time at my workplace. If you guys have any advice on haircuts or glasses that might help with looking older/more masculine I'd love to hear them.
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Hey Lucaas, one thing that might help is shaving the temples of your hair to give you that slightly receded look. Your face is really round and it would square it up. I know that not everyone likes to do, but I have found it is really masculinizing to round faces.
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So ignoring the fact that my sweater slipped down for an impromptu binder reveal, I'm thinking my glasses are hindrance to passing, what do you guys think? Any tips or suggestions?
lucas and johnny: i feel like the frames are taking away from your passing abilities. try ones that are thinner :) do stick to darker colored ones, though
See i would have said heavier frames but less curvy, more rectangular lol
Quote from: Peep on October 05, 2015, 11:01:13 AM
See i would have said heavier frames but less curvy, more rectangular lol
Mmm sometimes this can work but usually it makes the face appear smaller, because the frames exaggerate the size of the glasses and thus make the face appear smaller by proportion. I agree with Palexander, thinner frames and yeah, more rectangular, like you said.
Quote from: AndrewB on October 05, 2015, 05:11:34 PM
Mmm sometimes this can work but usually it makes the face appear smaller, because the frames exaggerate the size of the glasses and thus make the face appear smaller by proportion. I agree with Palexander, thinner frames and yeah, more rectangular, like you said.
ahhh that does make sense. i guess we can't always just go with what cis men do :/
Hey guys! I'm pre-everything, and not sure if I pass.
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Also, how old do I look?
I know round specs do me no favour, but I chose them when I had no idea about this and still was presenting as a girl, anyway. I may change them soon, anyway, but I don't know if I'll change the frames too or only the lenses. In that case, I'll look for a pair that's more squared looking.
Quote from: Italo Calvino on October 14, 2015, 09:00:40 AM
Hey guys! I'm pre-everything, and not sure if I pass.
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Also, how old do I look?
I know round specs do me no favour, but I chose them when I had no idea about this and still was presenting as a girl, anyway. I may change them soon, anyway, but I don't know if I'll change the frames too or only the lenses. In that case, I'll look for a pair that's more squared looking.
I think your hair the length it is makes your face look rounder. If you get your hair cut shorter in a undercut/pompadour type style then it'll help. That and square glasses and you'll look super handsome :)
Thank you very much! I thought that haircuts like those would make my face look rounder since they're so short on the sides. I'm looking for haircuts anyway, so I'll keep it in mind.
Hi, everyone. I'm pre-t and I'd like to see your opinion on my "passing skills". This is basically how I dress more often, a button up over a t-shirt gives me a lot more of cofidense even though my hips do give me away most of the time.
What do you think of my haircut?
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A lot of people say I look "adorable" or "cute", wich may be because I'm a chubby mess who looks much younger than I am... what age do I look like?
(I'm 20 btw).
Hey awkward shark
I do the same thing with the button up shirt on top for the same reasons. -high fives-
Also I think the haircut is working for you and you totally pass as male for me. Though I'd put you at closer to 16-17 in age. The baby-face of a ftm is a curse I tell ya. :) Something I've noticed though is that I tend to pass as older when I'm wearing plain t-shirts instead of graphics. Of I've heard sometimes shorter less shaggy hair helps? But also T.
Hello, everybody! I figured I'd ask whether I pass or not. I think I do but I'm not sure.
Every time I use my "girl" voice people around me look scandalised, and it's particularly awful at school. I have had people fight over my gender before, and small children get very confused. (I'm 16 years old btw)
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My jacket kinda disguises it, but I have oddly broad shoulders for a pre-T transguy.
Lostandfound- you totally passed. You look like a refined and classy gentleman.
omg a transguy that looks older than he actually is ! :p
Hey you guys, it's been a while since I've tried this. I just got the haircut you suggested months ago, these are the before/After pictures. I think I might pass better now.
http://imgur.com/a/w0n21
(P.S. I'm Pre-Everything-But-Binder, please be gentle.)
You look like a man to me :). The haircut and your glasses really suit you.
Good job, Epicene. You look great!
A couple of months ago vs. last week.
http://imgur.com/a/afMLl
Quote from: WorkingOnThomas on November 08, 2015, 02:51:33 PM
A couple of months ago vs. last week.
http://imgur.com/a/afMLl
Damn, bruh. Huge change. You look great.
Thanks :) I'm never going to pass 100% till after I have top surgery, but now, with a long overcoat, blazer, etc. I pass on occasion. Which is nice. I'd like to pass more often though. Hence the kind of severe haircut and square frames.
Quote from: WorkingOnThomas on November 09, 2015, 09:10:58 AM
Thanks :) I'm never going to pass 100% till after I have top surgery, but now, with a long overcoat, blazer, etc. I pass on occasion. Which is nice. I'd like to pass more often though. Hence the kind of severe haircut and square frames.
You look great, Thomas! Good choice of haircut and frames.
Thomas, as I opened your pic I first thought that your "now" was the first (and only) one I saw. Scrolling I saw the real one... what a difference! You do pass to me.
Thanks guys. I just can't wait to start T and really be on my way. Also, my new binder came in yesterday, and it really has made a huge difference.
Okay, worth a shot. Im pre-everything and dont often get the opportunity to pass, here's the closest I came, what do you guys think?
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Of course that was sheer dumb luck...even with my hair cut short Im surprised I got it to look like that
My most recent picture is this, (my hair grew out since)
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Haha, yeah I know its a bit more of a stretch to consider that one but I try what I can for now.
I think you pass in both pictures, but maybe shorter hair would help you, although you already have a good facial shape.
Do I pass and what age do I look?
http://imgur.com/OMS0Hlm
Aw gee, thanks, good to know my facial shape is another part of my biology thats working for me in this. Wow.
Quote from: yaka on November 19, 2015, 06:31:01 AM
Do I pass and what age do I look?
http://imgur.com/OMS0Hlm
Heya yaka, you look pretty androgynous there, but Iwould definitely say you pass, you still have a soft face that could be considered feminine or boyish so Id say a male in his young teens. Lets go with 16, heh. Hope that's not a letdown if thats not an agerange youre looking for. Those glasses definitely do help, Id say! Nice job! Edit: Hmmm, nooo actually on second look your face is a little angular, Id say 19 as well. Ultimately you'd pass given you combined enough traits to pass, you do well!
Quote from: yaka on November 19, 2015, 06:31:01 AM
Do I pass and what age do I look?
http://imgur.com/OMS0Hlm
I think you've got a range of ages there... if you said you were 16, 18 or 22 I'd believe you
Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on November 18, 2015, 09:30:04 PM
Okay, worth a shot. Im pre-everything and dont often get the opportunity to pass, here's the closest I came, what do you guys think?
[img width=187 height=400]http://i.imgur.com/2DnAPNa.jpg
Of course that was sheer dumb luck...even with my hair cut short Im surprised I got it to look like that
My most recent picture is this, (my hair grew out since)
[img width=225 height=400]http://i.imgur.com/vdb5m9O.jpg
Haha, yeah I know its a bit more of a stretch to consider that one but I try what I can for now.
I don't know if you
have to cut your hair - it doesn't look like a necessarily girly cut, loads of boys have long hair.
then again it might be fun! and it always grows back haha
Quote from: Italo Calvino on October 14, 2015, 09:00:40 AM
Hey guys! I'm pre-everything, and not sure if I pass.
Also, how old do I look?
I know round specs do me no favour, but I chose them when I had no idea about this and still was presenting as a girl, anyway. I may change them soon, anyway, but I don't know if I'll change the frames too or only the lenses. In that case, I'll look for a pair that's more squared looking.
Somehow the second one is more passable than the first, Im not sure what it is, maybe its the way the hair flops a bit to shroud some face shape, but ultimately you look pretty good as a dude. Nice outfit.
Quote from: Peep on November 19, 2015, 08:30:41 AM
I think you've got a range of ages there... if you said you were 16, 18 or 22 I'd believe you
I don't know if you have to cut your hair - it doesn't look like a necessarily girly cut, loads of boys have long hair.
then again it might be fun! and it always grows back haha
I agree, its why I keep it shoulder length. Although that rugged look really had to do with wearing the hat, probably. Sometimes my hair might not work in my favor, but at the very least if I keep it shoulder-length I still feel its a good length to be masculine feeling (imo), but female enough as need be (because last time I cut my hair people flipped out). I'd try to cut my hair again sometime to see what works but ultimately I do like this length at the longest.
Yaka, you look like an eighteen years old guy, but if your voice is very high you may look a bit younger. But you do pass.
Hi guys, my last time posting was pre-everything, and now I'm 1 month on T. No changes to report as of yet, but I also got a haircut a few months ago.
It's already grown out quite a bit, my hair grows super fast. :/ Meaning I need hair cuts all the time.
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Quote from: Italo Calvino on November 19, 2015, 10:09:17 AM
Yaka, you look like an eighteen years old guy, but if your voice is very high you may look a bit younger. But you do pass.
Fortunately I don't but yay, glad I don't look like a 13 year old. :D
Speaking of voice...I know this is mostly for pictures but...
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0ESzpGSm0W9
Hehe, I've been practicing trying to keep my voice lower, this is what I have for now.
I'm hoping this is what this thread is for... and I'm being brave sticking this up for so many people to see :D
I am pre-T, only been out a couple of months to people. So far so good, I pass sometimes but an opinion is always welcomed :)
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Looking good. Especially across your shoulders - do you lift?
Thomas
I used to :) used to play rugby union so still got plenty of muscle left over from when I stopped that. I ride too (horses) - planning on getting back to the gym soon!
Hi guys,
I really want to know if I pass or not...
I'm nearly 3 months on T, and still get misgendered sometimes, but I think I pass more now than pre-T as my voice is starting to drop :)
this is me pre-T:
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and this is a few days ago:
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That's great progress, Inji. I don't know exactly what changed, but I definitely see a "flip" from tomboy to, well, regular boy between those two pics. Congrats!
Thanks Captain! :police:
yeah, I didn't really noticed much changes (at least physically) either, apart from my voice...
but psychologically, I did start to feel more confident in being myself :)
before T, I was afraid to tell people that I am a boy (even after coming out to my family and at work), and still tried to act more "girly" in front of strangers... :-\
but now, I have more confidence to be myself, and even though T changes aren't apparent yet, I know I just have to be patient.
it's strange, but at least I'm happier every day ;D
You look great Sam, and Inji you also look great woo!
http://youtu.be/v7CEFGz-8hY
do I pass in this video because idek i am worrying...
I have no idea how to do links I am computer illiterate...
Edit: in the preview it has a link but when I post it I can't see the link?! Ugh
Edit: I've seen other people put YouTube videos in so it is possible I'm sure but argh. How do I even do this?!
Can you just type the name of the video or your YouTube username and we could search for it? I have no clue why it's not working.
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This is me. Do i pass?
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This is me. Do i pass?
i think so. i'd say 14, maybe 15 at some angles?
My channel is "Imgonnafindmypurpose" and the video was "you got a friend in me"
Slyblue you look exactly like one of the boys at my school.
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This is me. Do i pass?
You definitely pass. You look fairly young, but I don't know how old you actually are. Also, your haircut is great.
Wow massive respect for posting piccies pre testosterone Sam B_92, really brave :) I think you totally pass, really handsome piccie. You look quite a bit like my friend Ian, but your better looking ;)
I think you pass just fine Inji, love your StarWars picture X
Looking good Slyblue, you pass to me. Love your haircut!
Alright... Do you guys think I pass at all? I'm pre-t, by the way.
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Erm... Ignore the fact that I'm wearing an 18th century dress shirt.
thanks you guys, I'm 17 :-)
@ fruitbats: your eyebrow game is strong ;) will we hear the story behind the 18th century shirt?
You look great Fruitbats. And like Peep said, your eyebrows are great :D
Fruitbats you look like my friend's younger brother
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I needed a haircut but apparently the barber thought that "I like to slick it back into a side part like in old movies" means "cut my fringe straight across and make it generally awful"...
What can I do to fix it? Do I look awful? Do I still pass? Should I just get another haircut?
That guy really shouldn't be cutting people's hair >:(. I don't mean you look awful or anything, you still look male and the haircut is ok. You can definitely go to a different barber and get it fixed. But maybe this time bring a pic of what you want. You profile pic should be enough to know what to do. Sorry this happened to you :(
You look amaze Fruitbats! Loving the dress shirt, very dashing <3 You look quite a bit like my friend James, and he's a total dude! X
Don't worry Meno, your haircut isn't that bad at all and you totally still pass. If its any consolation, your haircut is very similar to the one my mum would keep making me have, to make me look like a boy. I personally think you look fine and you could get by and grow it out if you wish. I'll echo Elis and recommend taking some pictures with you, if you go for another chop :) X
You still pass for sure. It's a bummer your barber didn't listen to you at all, though. I actually don't think it looks that bad on you, but it's definitely not what you asked for!
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Ive put a ->-bleeped-<-ton(metric measurement, my maths teacher said so) of hair gel in and idk it looks better. It's a video of my hair idk. Is this a decent rescue.
And thanks y'all, I was really worrying but y'all made me worry less and feel better about it.
You look good man, even more handsome; ). I would have the sides shaved and put some texture into the top; but that's just my taste.
Wow your hair looks great with the gel, you look really dapper. X
Ok thanks :) in like a week or so mum says she will take me to get it styled more like how I actually asked for.
I'm glad you think it looks nice with the gel, my sibling told me it looks ugly but they like to tell me I look ugly pretty much constantly. They say I look ugly no matter how I do my hair just because of their own inadequacies but it still makes me feel rubbish.
Siblings can be such meanies 😞 my sister used to tell me I was to ugly to be a girl, didn't stop me transistioning 😊 But yeah it still hurts. Hugs X
Your sister was definately lying.
I think my sibling is jealous that they don't really have any facial structure even though they are stick thin when I'm chubby and I have like a jawline and cheekbones (that people even comment and compliment me on) and I can take decent selfies. they are probably also jealous that I have actual friends and lots of other reasons. And that dad no longer messes up my pronouns often but he still messes up theirs. Idk I'm babbling oops.
Last time I went to the endo like half a year ago they said I can start on T in like January and I have an appointment with them soon so I hope they don't go back on their word.
Meno I'm 100% jealous of your widow's peak
Meno, I think you look fine now that you slicked it back.
Quote from: Peep on December 19, 2015, 09:18:54 AM
Meno I'm 100% jealous of your widow's peak
I am in the process of losing my widow's peak as my hair is receding. It is a bummer because I always liked it.
I have no idea what a widows peak is ahah?
But thanks guysss:)
Quote from: Menoimagination on December 19, 2015, 02:26:30 PM
I have no idea what a widows peak is ahah?
But thanks guysss:)
ahh sorry for confusing you lol
it's when the very front of a hairline grows to a kind of teeny point
Quote from: Menoimagination on December 19, 2015, 02:26:30 PM
I have no idea what a widows peak is ahah?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Widow%27s+peak
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3rd photo I've posted but whatever. Anything I can improve? :)
Quote from: Zeno on December 28, 2015, 12:44:34 PM
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3rd photo I've posted but whatever. Anything I can improve? :)
Maybe a more 'mature' haircut as you look kinda on the young side. But your hairstyle does suit you and you look 100% male to me :)
Yeah you totally pass. Maybe a little bit shorter on the sides (since it´s growing over your ears).
But you already look male so if you like it, I think you could just leave it like that.
Perfect pass, zeno.
Quote from: Zeno on December 28, 2015, 12:44:34 PM
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3rd photo I've posted but whatever. Anything I can improve? :)
try shaving the sides with a higher guard so your ears aren't hidden halfway. it'll be a nice little change as you get older :)
Thank you guys =) And I probably should shave the sides seeing as most people tell me too haha
I identify as transmale, 24y.
SO I welcome any ideas for me.. Since i Often get to hear the wrong prounance.
People assume that I am a girl. I wear retro- and genderneutral clothes.
So You guys got any tips?
Some pick, incl. 1 to show body fat etc.
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Le mascara! Mustasch
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You have a pretty masculine face in the pic where I can actually see it (though a face pic that's less fem would be helpful if you want passing tips--it's hard to overlook te deep cut shirt. I can say now that your haircut is very feminine and not just because it's long. Most Cis guys with long hair don't get it layered.). I would say it's probably mostly the long hair combined with your voice. My voice is the factor that always gives me away, though it is finally starting to drop. I know Cis guys who get mistaken for females because they have long hair (unless they are the kind who never wash it and wear it pulled up in a ball cap while wearing cowboy boots and a Dixie flag on their shirt.). Being pre-T if you care about passing then you have to conform more to the stereotypes. If passing is less important to you than personal style, then it doesn't matter. But before T it is hard to have both unless you happen to be six feet tall or have some other genetic anomaly that is mostly found in men.
these are from a year ago...
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a few months ago
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im pre-everything
the only thing that seems to be a problem to prevent me from passing completely on the streets would be my voice and my chest...
Hey, jordmungand, you totally pass for me and your Doctor Who hoodie rocks!
Also, I have problems with my voice too. Just when I think I got the pitch right a kid comes up and calls me lady... Maybe train your voice? but be careful, you could get hurt.
youtube's the best place for tutorials
apparently, you can train to lower it
from the tutorial i've seen, just lower your voice when you talk, yawn, stretch your neck and don't wear your binder too much (prevents you from taking deep breathes for the talking thing)
but the guy said it worked for him, so he doesn't know if it would apply to everyone
@whatsorsa
You have a lot of masculine features and shapes in your advantage. You do look fem in the last pic but only because of the hair and clothes. You're pretty andro to my eyes overall so mannerisms and voice may make or break you irl. If you planned on going on T it would look good on you.
@jordmungand
You look great pre T. Pretty much a photo pass for a younger fella. With the right voice I wouldn't question your gender.
AS FOR MYSELF, happy 5ish months I guess: http://imgur.com/a/9LP4w how am I holding up?
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This was recent...Im surprised at how male I looked at the time. Now Im not so sure. Still pretty awesome, though.
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This was recent...Im surprised at how male I looked at the time. Now Im not so sure. Still pretty awesome, though.
conaidering u look like my friend Chris id say u pass lol.
Feeling better. Still pre-T, but lost some more weight (not sure you can tell in a headshot, but still...)
http://imgur.com/Ouf3yDL
Since I stopped shaving, I'm passing more. Maybe 50% passing, and 25% confusion, and 25% people taking pictures of the bearded woman. lol.
It's been a while since I posted, but here's a new one (in all it's cruddy quality glory) to mark almost being a year on T.
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So. I'm not so sure about this, but is there anything I can do to improve passibilty? (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160128%2F33db6f9098d9de70f870683d5c65526b.jpg&hash=8ad6b0bba97c8c145c54d20d1b993e11f7e015c2)
Pre-everything, I've been told the piercings are a bit feminizing since it's an uncommon configuration and being a lot on my face but I like them anyway.
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Quote from: Ciaran on February 02, 2016, 12:20:52 PM
Pre-everything, I've been told the piercings are a bit feminizing since it's an uncommon configuration and being a lot on my face but I like them anyway.
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i do not think that you pass. i'd suggest not doing your eyebrows anymore and letting them be a bit more messy. as for your hair, sides should be shorter. i think that you have a great jawline with a lot of potential, so with a new haircut and fixing your brows, you would look different. as for the piercings, i think the bridge piercing is fine, but the others on your nostrils are a bit 'feminine' to me. not sure about the others, but if you're keen on passing, try out difference things to help :)
Quote from: palexander on February 07, 2016, 09:23:13 PM
i do not think that you pass. i'd suggest not doing your eyebrows anymore and letting them be a bit more messy. as for your hair, sides should be shorter. i think that you have a great jawline with a lot of potential, so with a new haircut and fixing your brows, you would look different. as for the piercings, i think the bridge piercing is fine, but the others on your nostrils are a bit 'feminine' to me. not sure about the others, but if you're keen on passing, try out difference things to help :)
Thank you for the tips! I cut my own hair so I'll take the sides and back in a bit more to see if that helps. I think in this picture I had only trimmed it once since growing out from a clipper cut that was all wrong for me, I have no sideburns yet to carry it off and I got my dad's hairline that comes to a deep point in the back then just curls into a tail as it grows until I can comb it down and square it off. My brows don't grow in all the way and are really thin naturally, especially in the outer half where parts are only a single line of hairs I keep as a guide. If I don't do anything to them it looks weird against dark hair but I'll work on being less heavy handed filling them in and change the shape up until I find one that works better.
I have clear glass retainers for the nostril piercings so those can be hidden if I have to until I can pass with jewelry in. My septum is done as well but I normally keep the jewelry hidden, maybe if I swap out a plain ring in there for hiding the other ones it'll help since that's usually considered a more gender neutral location for a nose piercing.
Quote from: jordmungand on January 15, 2016, 10:13:31 AM
a few months ago
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im pre-everything
the only thing that seems to be a problem to prevent me from passing completely on the streets would be my voice and my chest...
You look 100% male! I've always been jealous of asians, because they seem to transition either direction almost effortlessly. If you start on T and can bind, I can't imagine you'll ever be mistaken for a girl.
we're all doing great
Pre errythang. Feeling like I'm looking more queer / andro with blonde hair, but I'm a queer guy and I do drag (occasionally) so go figure
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public apology I accidently removed Matthew's post when trying to post a response , deeply sorry
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public apology I accidently removed Matthew's post when trying to post a response , deeply sorry
Post restored, no worries. PM me or Cindy if there's any issues, admins are able to restore deleted/removed posts. :3
Quote from: Matthew on February 08, 2016, 12:27:33 PM
Pre errythang. Feeling like I'm looking more queer / andro with blonde hair, but I'm a queer guy and I do drag (occasionally) so go figure
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What do y'all think?
Total pass and pretty sexy. :P
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I was dared to dye my hair ginger with some hair dye we had had since like 2007... I like ginger but I know that dyeing hair can be perceived as feminine and I just agh worried um do I still pass.
Na you're fine, loads of guys dye their hair, particularly red, bleach and ginger. From what I've seen anyway
Quote from: jordmungand on January 16, 2016, 01:20:59 AM
youtube's the best place for tutorials
apparently, you can train to lower it
from the tutorial i've seen, just lower your voice when you talk, yawn, stretch your neck and don't wear your binder too much (prevents you from taking deep breathes for the talking thing)
but the guy said it worked for him, so he doesn't know if it would apply to everyone
I think this is a great suggestion you bring up, but what if you still have to go by your assigned name and gender for legal reasons?
Kinda doesn't make sense to train your voice to speak deeper if your birth certificate and ID among other documentation reflects you as female, which is the case with me.
I felt so silly for trying to talk deeper only to be called "Miss" and "Ma'am" later over the phone no matter what, because of my registered name and gender. :(
Quote from: Peep on February 13, 2016, 05:58:52 PM
Na you're fine, loads of guys dye their hair, particularly red, bleach and ginger. From what I've seen anyway
I dyed my hair blue last week for the first time. And it will be the last, lol. Never use Splat. That stuff is a huge mess. But at least it came out a'ight.
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A bit tough to see in this picture cause it came out much darker, like a navy blue, because I have naturally black hair. Had to bleach that sucker for like an hour!
I was hoping mine would come out like Chase's hair dyes (the famous FTM Youtuber, who is mighty cute by the way...in the most manliest way possible. ;)). But I think his hair is like naturally brown and therefore, much lighter than mine. I think I would have required a second Splat package to get my hair as light blue as his gets. Oh well....
Hey Phoenix,
I really like that shade of blue and it suits you really well :). It also makes you look rather handsome. Who cares what the hospital staff see you as when you clearly look like a good looking man, they must need their eyes testing.
Quote from: Elis on February 14, 2016, 06:55:41 AM
Hey Phoenix,
I really like that shade of blue and it suits you really well :). It also makes you look rather handsome. Who cares what the hospital staff see you as when you clearly look like a good looking man, they must need their eyes testing.
Thanks, bro.
And yeah, we shouldn't care at all what anyone sees us as. If we know unto ourselves what we are, then that is what we are, no matter what. Great point, Elis! :D
I used to dye my hair blue and turquoise - I've got dark brown hair and i used to bleach it to a sort of orange or blond, and use SFX and Directions dyes and they came out pretty bright. this was about ten years ago tho mind :/ sometimes if you use toner to get rid of the yellowy tones of the bleached parts you can get a lighter shade too.
Quote from: Peep on February 14, 2016, 03:10:37 PM
I used to dye my hair blue and turquoise - I've got dark brown hair and i used to bleach it to a sort of orange or blond, and use SFX and Directions dyes and they came out pretty bright. this was about ten years ago tho mind :/ sometimes if you use toner to get rid of the yellowy tones of the bleached parts you can get a lighter shade too.
What bothered me the most, aside from those yellow tones you're talking about, is the mess I had to clean up afterwards. Goodness, I would rather go to a professional than go through that hardship ever again. >.<
Phoenix
Quote from: King Phoenix on February 14, 2016, 03:31:12 PM
What bothered me the most, aside from those yellow tones you're talking about, is the mess I had to clean up afterwards. Goodness, I would rather go to a professional than go through that hardship ever again. >.<
Phoenix
yeah that's part of the reason i stopped dying my hair. the cleanup was awful and i got tired of accidentally staining my hands green P: i had one purple eyebrow for a few weeks once lol
Quote from: Peep on February 14, 2016, 04:13:43 PM
yeah that's part of the reason i stopped dying my hair. the cleanup was awful and i got tired of accidentally staining my hands green P: i had one purple eyebrow for a few weeks once lol
Yeah. My hands totally matched my hair. You gotta have time and patience on your side to do this. I made sure that I had absolutely nothing to do that day. Though it would burn a hole in my wallet, I would much rather head over to a barbershop and have this done than to do it myself ever again in my life!
Hahaha. One purple eyebrow. That had to be quite a sight. I was very careful not to get any in my eyebrows because I didn't want to accidentally go blind. Which would of course, suck. But hell, I shaved my eyebrows completely off. Made my face look broader and stonier. ;D
Phoenix
Quote from: jordmungand on January 15, 2016, 10:13:31 AM
these are from a year ago...
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a few months ago
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im pre-everything
the only thing that seems to be a problem to prevent me from passing completely on the streets would be my voice and my chest...
100% pass :D I agree with Matt that Asians seem to have better chance of passing(pre-HRT).I remember when I lived in China(I was pre-T at that time),my male friend and I wore same shirts and we looked like soul brothers..same height,similar built(he is short,skinny)...but when I returned to Europe...oh boy,most of guys were much taller..so yeah,that's probably one of the reasons that gradually I started feeling transRACIAL as well lol..I still miss China.Now I'm on T and due to facial fat redistribution my cheeks are smaller and jaw more square so I started looking more like local guys..which makes daily interaction easier..Wishing you smooth transition! ;)
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I was dared to dye my hair ginger with some hair dye we had had since like 2007... I like ginger but I know that dyeing hair can be perceived as feminine and I just agh worried um do I still pass.
Wow you're so lucky to have such jawline!In my opinion,you totally pass! :) Ginger hair is great!I probably love it because I felt like Peter Pan when I was teen (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.lum.dolimg.com%2Fv1%2Fimages%2Fopen-uri20150422-20810-r3neg5_4c4b3ee3.jpeg&hash=815e2721edfc2ec953daa9b56b03d25abf8dd24b)
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IMO bald haircut doesn't suit you..because if you let you hair grow you can shape it in such way that your skull seems more masculine.I would buy glasses with thinner temples...When I was kid,I wanted such haircut(I was 5 yo lol,and hairstylist lied to me and shaped it differently).I wore spikes during teen years...
Thank you for your honesty. Though, I am not bald completely. Its a mohawk. Therefore, there is hair in the center. I'm not into doing hair like that and am quite satisfied with just cutting it. But I see what you mean. My hair never really grew too much anyway even while living as female. I would cut it all off if I were on T. :)
Do you guys think I pass at all today?
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I think the brown eyeglasses I had in my other pics do make me look alot less masculine. So I will either not wear them unless I really need to or get men's eyeglasses. I think wearing the sunglasses helps cover up the annoying roundness of my womanly shaped head. Ball caps and skullcaps help also.
But I love my mohawk. I never felt better about my hair until I got it cut in that style. Probably will keep it this way for as long as I can. I'm thinking about growing it out into a bit of a braided ponytail with the mohawk once I start T. So awesome! I love mohawks!^^
Phoenix
Hi Phoenix.
I think the sunglasses look really badass on you and I'm glad that your mohawk gives you so much confidence :).
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ezpdjnj63o3o7rh/20160212_150201.jpg?dl=0
Here's a pic of me just over 3 months on T, I think I still look awful :/
Hi elis
I can't get a read on your body, but from the picture, you just look like a young dude. Like just after high school and starting to fill out.
I wouldn't worry. Your looking fine and your just going to grow into it.
Ciao
Quote from: King Phoenix on February 17, 2016, 07:18:44 AM
Do you guys think I pass at all today?
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I think the brown eyeglasses I had in my other pics do make me look alot less masculine. So I will either not wear them unless I really need to or get men's eyeglasses. I think wearing the sunglasses helps cover up the annoying roundness of my womanly shaped head. Ball caps and skullcaps help also.
But I love my mohawk. I never felt better about my hair until I got it cut in that style. Probably will keep it this way for as long as I can. I'm thinking about growing it out into a bit of a braided ponytail with the mohawk once I start T. So awesome! I love mohawks!^^
Phoenix
Dude you look awesome, and yeah you're fine, even with the head shape you just look like a young male, I assume you're older but you could easily be a high school male. And that is a sweet mohawk. Glad it makes you happy
Quote from: Elis on February 17, 2016, 08:19:22 AM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ezpdjnj63o3o7rh/20160212_150201.jpg?dl=0
Here's a pic of me just over 3 months on T, I think I still look awful :/
Pretty awesome for three months. Honestly you already look like a guy no worries, only a bit more and you could totally pass as an older male, I see that happening.
Thanks Stevie and WolfNight. I still see myself as looking female in the mirror. I'm starting to wonder if I'll ever be happy with the way I look.
Quote from: Elis on February 18, 2016, 05:53:45 AM
Thanks Stevie and WolfNight. I still see myself as looking female in the mirror. I'm starting to wonder if I'll ever be happy with the way I look.
You quite welcome
Been a while since I posted, and well, nothing's really changed with me, but I just wanted to know what you lot think of me again.
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Mainly, I want to know if the eyeliner affects me in anyway. Also, I'm thinking of getting my hair dyed black, and I want to know if you think that'd be good? Oh, and just so you know, I'm pre everything. I tried making doctor's appointments, but I backed out at the last minute twice.
I used to wear eyeliner like that :P I was presenting as female at the time, but copying male singers that i liked. It's not the "girliest" of looks, but there are some people that will always automatically associate any kind of make up with females. if you like it though, don't worry about what they think. Black hair should be fine, natural colours are pretty much gender neutral and there are so many 'goth' guys out there.
Gamma-Hunter- From your photo I thought you already had black hair; so I think you should go ahead and dye it. If I walked passed you in the street I would see you as nothing other than a cute cis guy.
Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on February 17, 2016, 02:17:04 PM
Dude you look awesome, and yeah you're fine, even with the head shape you just look like a young male, I assume you're older but you could easily be a high school male. And that is a sweet mohawk. Glad it makes you happy
Thanks Wolf. :)
-Phoenix
Quote from: Elis on February 18, 2016, 05:34:31 PM
Gamma-Hunter- From your photo I thought you already had black hair; so I think you should go ahead and dye it. If I walked passed you in the street I would see you as nothing other than a cute cis guy.
Those last three words have really sky rocketed my confidence. Thank you.
Quote from: GammaHunter on February 18, 2016, 05:14:05 PM
Been a while since I posted, and well, nothing's really changed with me, but I just wanted to know what you lot think of me again.
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Mainly, I want to know if the eyeliner affects me in anyway. Also, I'm thinking of getting my hair dyed black, and I want to know if you think that'd be good? Oh, and just so you know, I'm pre everything. I tried making doctor's appointments, but I backed out at the last minute twice.
I have to agree youre a cute guy >w<
You just look real young in that photo but its can look male. I like it. And I personally really love guyliner
Good luck on your quest. If youre really serious dont back down next time, or the next time after.
Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on February 19, 2016, 12:55:12 PM
I have to agree youre a cute guy >w<
You just look real young in that photo but its can look male. I like it. And I personally really love guyliner
Good luck on your quest. If youre really serious dont back down next time, or the next time after.
Out of curiosity, how old would you say I am from that photo? For the record, I'm sixteen.
Just out of curiosity, are there any FTMs here who have long hair? I kinda wanna grow out my hair but still keep my mohawk. My past false gender representation as female would have never allowed for me to even do that because of the mohawk. I used to hate the thought of growing out my hair. But now that I have accepted my true self, for the most part, I am all for it. As a kid (and even now) I absolutely loved The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles(in fact, I have a TMNT Classic Style hoodie on right now...God I love those hoodies :D). There was a goofy villain by the name of Bebop who tagged along with another goofball named Rocksteady. I always liked Bebop's unique hairstyle, even now, though the cartoon he was in premiered in the good ol' 80's. He has the style I eventually want to attain by growing out the center of my mohawk into what I like to call a rat tail or even a ponytail at some point. I just worry that my lack of correct testosterone levels (the condition of a man being born in a woman's body, as we all know too well :'() coupled with this type of hairstyle right now would have me misgendered even worse than I already do presently. But its so tempting that I already started to grow it out. I feel it getting longer little by little. I just have to not let anyone discourage me into trimming it. Its gonna be awesome, especially when I start T!^^
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Quote from: King Phoenix on February 20, 2016, 06:09:21 AM
Just out of curiosity, are there any FTMs here who have long hair? I kinda wanna grow out my hair but still keep my mohawk. My past false gender representation as female would have never allowed for me to even do that because of the mohawk. I used to hate the thought of growing out my hair. But now that I have accepted my true self, for the most part, I am all for it. As a kid (and even now) I absolutely loved The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles(in fact, I have a TMNT Classic Style hoodie on right now...God I love those hoodies :D). There was a goofy villain by the name of Bebop who tagged along with another goofball named Rocksteady. I always liked Bebop's unique hairstyle, even now, though the cartoon he was in premiered in the good ol' 80's. He has the style I eventually want to attain by growing out the center of my mohawk into what I like to call a rat tail or even a ponytail at some point. I just worry that my lack of correct testosterone levels (the condition of a man being born in a woman's body, as we all know too well :'() coupled with this type of hairstyle right now would have me misgendered even worse than I already do presently. But its so tempting that I already started to grow it out. I feel it getting longer little by little. I just have to not let anyone discourage me into trimming it. Its gonna be awesome, especially when I start T!^^
-Phoenix
I could probably pull off long hair if I wanted to, I just hate the maintenance involved with to make it look good. As it is, I can just wake up, shower, and "fluff" my hair and I'm good to go with once a month or so trims. Having long hair would add at least 15 more minutes to my morning routine.
Quote from: loyalkirsten on February 20, 2016, 09:52:18 AM
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Please don't be mean but be honest
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♡Kirsten Danielle xoxo
I know the shorts are short but I did my makeup and everything and this is currently the only outfit I have please don't delete the image.
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♡Kirsten Danielle xoxo
Quote from: loyalkirsten on February 20, 2016, 09:55:53 AM
I know the shorts are short but I did my makeup and everything and this is currently the only outfit I have please don't delete the image.
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♡Kirsten Danielle xoxo
kirsten, you're in the ftm section! :laugh:
nonetheless, i think that you definitely have potential.
Quote from: Muscle Matt on February 08, 2016, 10:08:17 AM
You look 100% male! I've always been jealous of asians, because they seem to transition either direction almost effortlessly. If you start on T and can bind, I can't imagine you'll ever be mistaken for a girl.
Quote from: Andre87 on February 14, 2016, 05:28:20 PM
100% pass :D I agree with Matt that Asians seem to have better chance of passing(pre-HRT).I remember when I lived in China(I was pre-T at that time),my male friend and I wore same shirts and we looked like soul brothers..same height,similar built(he is short,skinny)...but when I returned to Europe...oh boy,most of guys were much taller..so yeah,that's probably one of the reasons that gradually I started feeling transRACIAL as well lol..I still miss China.Now I'm on T and due to facial fat redistribution my cheeks are smaller and jaw more square so I started looking more like local guys..which makes daily interaction easier..Wishing you smooth transition! ;)
hahah! thank you =)
i think asians are more prone to being androgynous? ive been told i'm quite androgynous and that i'm a pretty girl and a handsome man at the same time
obv i like the handsome man compliment more.
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i took a few pics before i head out to a recital
i'm doing a sneaky double sports bra bind
Quote from: palexander on February 20, 2016, 10:53:41 PM
kirsten, you're in the ftm section! [emoji23]nonetheless, i think that you definitely have potential.
Oh oops [emoji15] haha sorry and thank you!
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♡Kirsten Danielle xoxo
What I wanna know is why do we equate youthfulness with femininity? Like the younger people look they think of them as being less masculine and more feminine.
Honestly, I subconsciously become quite upset when someone repeatedly tells me that I look like a young boy or a teenage boy. For once I would just like to be told more often that I am a strapping, strong man. Period.
*Sigh* Maybe in a perfect world. But being able to accept my real self would mean that I do not need anyone's approval/opinion of me to validate my gender identity. I'm gettin to that point of nihilism in that...where I do not care and that being misgendered every so often really is not the end of all things as we know it. I guess now it just seems more painful because I realize the extent of gender. Like I'm learnin' to just deal with people's ignorance so I can do what I gotta do. Like for the first time in ages I finally agreed to go to the gym with my dad (I am the only person he knows who would tag along with him to such a place) because I gotta do what I gotta do in spite of the annoying misgendering, paranoia and social anxiety. I just suck it up until I can do better and move on. Sorry if I said too much. Not even sure where I am going with this post anymore.
-Phoenix
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Dunno if I pass AT ALL rn. Thinking of getting rid of my mid part, and growing my hair back out...
Quote from: King Phoenix on February 21, 2016, 07:18:18 AM
What I wanna know is why do we equate youthfulness with femininity? Like the younger people look they think of them as being less masculine and more feminine.
Honestly, I subconsciously become quite upset when someone repeatedly tells me that I look like a young boy or a teenage boy. For once I would just like to be told more often that I am a strapping, strong man. Period.
*Sigh* Maybe in a perfect world. But being able to accept my real self would mean that I do not need anyone's approval/opinion of me to validate my gender identity. I'm gettin to that point of nihilism in that...where I do not care and that being misgendered every so often really is not the end of all things as we know it. I guess now it just seems more painful because I realize the extent of gender. Like I'm learnin' to just deal with people's ignorance so I can do what I gotta do. Like for the first time in ages I finally agreed to go to the gym with my dad (I am the only person he knows who would tag along with him to such a place) because I gotta do what I gotta do in spite of the annoying misgendering, paranoia and social anxiety. I just suck it up until I can do better and move on. Sorry if I said too much. Not even sure where I am going with this post anymore.
Hey Pheonix, I understand your pain! I don't think people equate youthfulness with effeminacy but rather that young men actually DO have more feminine features than older ones. Unlike female puberty which pretty much guarantees that most ladies look like grown women by 18-21, men take a little long to finish "cooking," especially those of white and Asian descent. Body mass develops slower so they can still be "lanky" well into their twenties and often facial hair doesn't even finish developing until the mid-twenties. Some males are completely "cooked" by 18 or 19 with square jaw lines and large shoulders and all that jazz, but I would say most still have rounder features and a smaller build at that age-very similar to what FTMs have. They even tend to have higher voices than men in their mid to late twenties. As a former teacher, I saw this a lot in my students. We had some boys (usually African American descent) who had huge muscles and were over six feet tall and had full beards and could have passed as thirty... But most of our senior boys could have worn a dress with a chance of passing as a girl. Ten years later, no way. Though your growth plates are usually sealed by the end of high school, most males are not finished with all their pubescent changes by 18, therefore an FTM looks more like a male who is younger and not fully developed than a fully developed older male. Eventually age and enough time on T usually changes this perception. Though I do think this says something about our expectations of T: basically most cis guys need almost ten years on T before looking fully 100% masculinized.
Quote from: FtMitch on February 24, 2016, 08:29:26 AM
Hey Pheonix, I understand your pain! I don't think people equate youthfulness with effeminacy but rather that young men actually DO have more feminine features than older ones. Unlike female puberty which pretty much guarantees that most ladies look like grown women by 18-21, men take a little long to finish "cooking," especially those of white and Asian descent. Body mass develops slower so they can still be "lanky" well into their twenties and often facial hair doesn't even finish developing until the mid-twenties. Some males are completely "cooked" by 18 or 19 with square jaw lines and large shoulders and all that jazz, but I would say most still have rounder features and a smaller build at that age-very similar to what FTMs have. They even tend to have higher voices than men in their mid to late twenties. As a former teacher, I saw this a lot in my students. We had some boys (usually African American descent) who had huge muscles and were over six feet tall and had full beards and could have passed as thirty... But most of our senior boys could have worn a dress with a chance of passing as a girl. Ten years later, no way. Though your growth plates are usually sealed by the end of high school, most males are not finished with all their pubescent changes by 18, therefore an FTM looks more like a male who is younger and not fully developed than a fully developed older male. Eventually age and enough time on T usually changes this perception. Though I do think this says something about our expectations of T: basically most cis guys need almost ten years on T before looking fully 100% masculinized.
This is true - my bf is 26 and he's only just grown a beard with no big holes in it this year. if he shaved it off he'd still look like a baby
Hairline's probably a thing too, younger boys have a more 'feminine' hairline
Heck, I know a guy who's in his mid-thirties who generally wears a full beard. He says himself that one reason he keeps it is that without it, he looks like a 15-year-old girl. (As far as his face goes, that is -- he's tall and muscular and would never be mistaken for one on the street.)
I feel yout pain :/ honestly as much as I wear certain clothes or snip my hair Im not quite near yet to being a male and am frequently misgendered, and I simply have to brush it off for simplicities sake and just not care. I have some priorities and needs to accompany before I can dream to further get hormones and such, but I would really want to.
My friends readily view me as male though as well as myself so I get by well
The Peter Pan topic was a page or so ago but reminded me of a story my mom recounts now and again. When I was a toddler I was dropped off at daycare. The ladies working there spent the whole time trying to get my name...but I insisted it was Peter Pan. Haha. I was/am a dork.
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On another note...how am I fairing?
WanderingFace you have a handsome face
Quote from: jordmungand on February 21, 2016, 04:44:09 AM
i think asians are more prone to being androgynous? ive been told i'm quite androgynous and that i'm a pretty girl and a handsome man at the same time
This is definitely true. While it's not true for all asians, it is for a much larger amount than, for example, white people. I'm only half asian yet I can easily pass for both male and female, and just like you said, I'm good looking either way (according to other people, anyways). If you look up a Japanese term called "visual kei," you'll see a lot of androgynous looking people in flashy outfits, with a lot of really cute girls mixed in. Until you find out that they're actually all men, and you've been fooled because they're all androgynous looking asians. That being said, (in my opinion,) asians don't necessarily look very androgynous at first glance, but when you put a wig on them and give them some clothes of the opposite sex, you suddenly do notice.
Thanks, Menoimagination. I've gotten that I have a friendly/warm look, but this is the first time I've been called hansom. Made my day and I appreciate the compliment.
Quote from: WanderingFace on March 04, 2016, 01:52:41 PM
The Peter Pan topic was a page or so ago but reminded me of a story my mom recounts now and again. When I was a toddler I was dropped off at daycare. The ladies working there spent the whole time trying to get my name...but I insisted it was Peter Pan. Haha. I was/am a dork.
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On another note...how am I fairing?
doing good
You remind me of Tom Felton and I am unsure why but I looked at your face and thought "he looks a bit like Draco Malfoy.
( I lost hope and i'm depressed ) Just want to know if i still pass
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Quote from: jossef-ftm on March 07, 2016, 11:58:05 AM
( I lost hope and i'm depressed ) Just want to know if i still pass
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You look like a very handsome man; I wish I looked like you. If you look like this pre T; you're going to be a real lady killer after T ;)
Yeah bro you don't have anything to worry about. T will definitely just bring you over the top. You are already killing it though
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Jossef - You're looking very masculine. I see only a man in those pictures. Hang in there, brother!
Joseff, I'd say you are passing pretty damn well, I'm also liking your style :) Very handsome
Well, im waiting for my binder to arrive, but have my face meanwhile:
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Still waiting on T. Sometimes I think I'll shave my little goatee and just let people think I'm a girl so as to avoid any confusion when they hear me speak, but gosh dang it, I love it too much.
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I want to see how well you think I pass.
I'm pre T and some girls today in the women's walmart bathroom did a double take at me and walked away quickly. I assumed I looked like a butch woman.
Some gay cis men on a dating site just told me I looked more masculine than them.
Don't worry- I'm not scowling at you, this is my neutral expression. I prefer not to smile.
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Quote from: Menoimagination on March 07, 2016, 02:01:11 AM
You remind me of Tom Felton and I am unsure why but I looked at your face and thought "he looks a bit like Draco Malfoy.
You are a good looking man.
Quote from: alienbodybuilder on March 25, 2016, 11:05:45 PM
I want to see how well you think I pass.
I'm pre T and some girls today in the women's walmart bathroom did a double take at me and walked away quickly. I assumed I looked like a butch woman.
Some gay cis men on a dating site just told me I looked more masculine than them.
Don't worry- I'm not scowling at you, this is my neutral expression. I prefer not to smile.
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I think you pass, but I'd maybe shorten your hair a little bit more and stop any eyebrow maintenance you're doing.
Quote from: FTMax on March 26, 2016, 12:39:28 PM
I think you pass, but I'd maybe shorten your hair a little bit more and stop any eyebrow maintenance you're doing.
I'm not doing any eyebrow maintenance. That's my natural eyebrows. I just got my hair cut, but it's not exactly the way I want it. When I get a chance I will get it shorter.
Just a question on the eyebrow thing - I was told that if you used to pluck (and I did - not you know, strenuously, but a little cleaning up around the edges) then your eyebrows never really grow back. Is that true?
Quote from: WorkingOnThomas on March 26, 2016, 01:06:04 PM
Just a question on the eyebrow thing - I was told that if you used to pluck (and I did - not you know, strenuously, but a little cleaning up around the edges) then your eyebrows never really grow back. Is that true?
I don't think that's true, but I'm by no means an expert in hair removal (learning more due to electrolysis for surgery though!). I was never really into plucking my eyebrows or doing really anything with them. I might've plucked a few here or there to clean up around the edges as you say, and they've all come back.
Plucking doesn't destroy the regenerative ability of the hair follicle in the way that laser or heat related hair removal would, so while growth may take longer, it should still be occurring.
Quote from: WorkingOnThomas on March 26, 2016, 01:06:04 PM
Just a question on the eyebrow thing - I was told that if you used to pluck (and I did - not you know, strenuously, but a little cleaning up around the edges) then your eyebrows never really grow back. Is that true?
Nope, i used to pluck mine because i was made fun of otherwise and my eyebrows came back all over the shop
they're a little thinner at the outer sides but they were like that before i started tweezing
Quote from: FTMax on March 26, 2016, 01:13:38 PM
I don't think that's true, but I'm by no means an expert in hair removal (learning more due to electrolysis for surgery though!). I was never really into plucking my eyebrows or doing really anything with them. I might've plucked a few here or there to clean up around the edges as you say, and they've all come back.
Plucking doesn't destroy the regenerative ability of the hair follicle in the way that laser or heat related hair removal would, so while growth may take longer, it should still be occurring.
My eyebrows are naturally arched.
No worries about the eyebrows. They look darker and thicker than mine are at 7 months on hormones. Some people have brows that grow in that pattern, male and female. I was given a similar comment early pre-t and it was frustrating to be told to stop maintaining brows that you never touched in the first place. Not that it's anyone's fault. You just have good looking brows. Even guys shape their brows that way.
Honestly I agree you could pass as a young boy with a slightly more masculine haircut and a few other tweaks. One being the shirt you are wearing. Having a button up with a collar that loose and wide at the neck will emphasize your smaller build. Especially when your neck isn't beefed up from testosterone. Look for large junior size shirts. They are more likely to fit in a way that both flatters your figure and helps appear more masculine. There are also smaller cuts in certain name brand clothing, they are just more difficult to find.
Quote from: WanderingFace on March 27, 2016, 11:55:34 PM
No worries about the eyebrows. They look darker and thicker than mine are at 7 months on hormones. Some people have brows that grow in that pattern, male and female. I was given a similar comment early pre-t and it was frustrating to be told to stop maintaining brows that you never touched in the first place. Not that it's anyone's fault. You just have good looking brows. Even guys shape their brows that way.
Honestly I agree you could pass as a young boy with a slightly more masculine haircut and a few other tweaks. One being the shirt you are wearing. Having a button up with a collar that loose and wide at the neck will emphasize your smaller build. Especially when your neck isn't beefed up from testosterone. Look for large junior size shirts. They are more likely to fit in a way that both flatters your figure and helps appear more masculine. There are also smaller cuts in certain name brand clothing, they are just more difficult to find.
So are you saying that shirt compliments me or not? I almost exclusively wear military style shirts, rarely casual t shirts.
If you want to look masculine I don't think the shirt achieves that. The open collar looks feminine so maybe go for something that buttons up all the the way or have the lapels less wide. I also think the pockets on either side of your chest kind of draws too much attention to that part of your body. The epaulettes on your shirt work great to make your shoulders look broader; but if your shirt was just a bit tighter it would look better.
I hope I don't come across as mean. If you like the shirt or are happy looking more fem then don't let me discourage you from wearing it.
Quote from: Elis on March 28, 2016, 10:46:41 AM
If you want to look masculine I don't think the shirt achieves that. The open collar looks feminine so maybe go for something that buttons up all the the way or have the lapels less wide. I also think the pockets on either side of your chest kind of draws too much attention to that part of your body. The epaulettes on your shirt work great to make your shoulders look broader; but if your shirt was just a bit tighter it would look better.
I hope I don't come across as mean. If you like the shirt or are happy looking more fem then don't let me discourage you from wearing it.
Thanks for your idea, but I can't wear clothes I don't like just too look more masculine. I'm mostly concerned with gender expression through clothing right now, than passing. Someday in the future when I start the T the rest of the work will be done for me. I'm working on the fatty biceps but the amount of workout I can do right now is limited because of my living situation. For me transition is a slow work in progress, not an immediate gratification. People in my life since this last summer (2015) are still getting used to seeing me dressed as a male and male haircuts and making subtle comments about my appearance.
Quote from: alienbodybuilder on March 28, 2016, 10:29:56 AM
So are you saying that shirt compliments me or not? I almost exclusively wear military style shirts, rarely casual t shirts.
Apologies for being unclear. My casual writing is not the best.
I'm saying the shirt does not work towards passing. Not saying that it looks terrible (It just looks like a work shirt), but it doesn't help make you look male bodied because of the loose fit and collar. Echoing the same sentiments as Elis here. Visually it leans you towards butch woman rather than young male.
Just helpful advice thrown out there if you wanted to try a different kind of shirt to experiment with. If you are early in coming out you are probably going to go through a lot of clothes and styles before you settle on something that works best for you.
P.S. My girlfriend says she likes your hair.
Quote from: WanderingFace on March 28, 2016, 11:30:08 PM
Apologies for being unclear. My casual writing is not the best.
I'm saying the shirt does not work towards passing. Not saying that it looks terrible (It just looks like a work shirt), but it doesn't help make you look male bodied because of the loose fit and collar. Echoing the same sentiments as Elis here. Visually it leans you towards butch woman rather than young male.
Just helpful advice thrown out there if you wanted to try a different kind of shirt to experiment with. If you are early in coming out you are probably going to go through a lot of clothes and styles before you settle on something that works best for you.
P.S. My girlfriend says she likes your hair.
As I said earlier, I'm not worried about passing until I start T. Military style and uniform style shirts are all I will wear, because it's my preference and my expression. I explained it to someone else above.
Quote from: alienbodybuilder on March 28, 2016, 11:59:01 PM
As I said earlier, I'm not worried about passing until I start T. Military style and uniform style shirts are all I will wear, because it's my preference and my expression. I explained it to someone else above.
I saw. I just figured I would answer your question in a thorough way to be helpful. I thought it better to say why I thought you didn't pass instead of a blunt "no". A lot of people posting in this thread want to know whether or not they are passing in an image and the reason why to help curb misgendering. Everyone has different desires and levels of comfort however.
I think Elis may have been better explaining my feelings on the shirt since I had initially confused you with my first responce. I was just parroting about shirt fits some more to confirm that was what I initially meant.
Quote from: WanderingFace on March 29, 2016, 12:13:30 AM
I saw. I just figured I would answer your question in a thorough way to be helpful. I thought it better to say why I thought you didn't pass instead of a blunt "no". A lot of people posting in this thread want to know whether or not they are passing in an image and the reason why to help curb misgendering. Everyone has different desires and levels of comfort however.
I think Elis may have been better explaining my feelings on the shirt since I had initially confused you with my first responce. I was just parroting about shirt fits some more to confirm that was what I initially meant.
Thanks for your input.
Took this earlier this month to have a little throwback earlier this month. I found my old "Ident-a-Kid" card that I got issued when I was five while looking for loose change for my top surgery fund jar.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Femptyclosets.com%2Fforum%2Fmembers%2F12565-albums5829-picture57414.jpg&hash=8a22e996c3e8d96471850be32e02cea5a2f51812)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ezpdjnj63o3o7rh/20160212_150201.jpg?dl=0
The top was me 3 months on T.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/viuvplwhjow7->-bleeped-<-/20160402_125831.jpg?dl=0
This is me now at 5 months. I think I've changed slightly but not much. I can still see female in this photo. And I know I need a haircut ::). I'm also not sure if my glasses suit me anymore. I don't think they look quite bad enough yet to change them; although if I were too I think the 1960s hipster style frames would suit me (rectangular with black frames). Also does it look like I need to lose some weight?
Quote from: WanderingFace on March 28, 2016, 11:30:08 PM
Apologies for being unclear. My casual writing is not the best.
I'm saying the shirt does not work towards passing. Not saying that it looks terrible (It just looks like a work shirt), but it doesn't help make you look male bodied because of the loose fit and collar. Echoing the same sentiments as Elis here. Visually it leans you towards butch woman rather than young male.
Just helpful advice thrown out there if you wanted to try a different kind of shirt to experiment with. If you are early in coming out you are probably going to go through a lot of clothes and styles before you settle on something that works best for you.
P.S. My girlfriend says she likes your hair.
Thank your girlfriend for me. This wasn't quite the style I wanted, so I appreciate her compliment.
Quote from: Elis on April 02, 2016, 07:15:06 AM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ezpdjnj63o3o7rh/20160212_150201.jpg?dl=0
The top was me 3 months on T.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/viuvplwhjow7->-bleeped-<-/20160402_125831.jpg?dl=0
This is me now at 5 months. I think I've changed slightly but not much. I can still see female in this photo. And I know I need a haircut ::). I'm also not sure if my glasses suit me anymore. I don't think they look quite bad enough yet to change them; although if I were too I think the 1960s hipster style frames would suit me (rectangular with black frames). Also does it look like I need to lose some weight?
I like blonde nerdy guys in particular. I personally don't think you need to lose weight. If I were you I'd try some baggier shirts to hide your breasts. They are noticeable. I wish I was a naturally blonde with blue eyes, you're lucky.
Thanks :). Yeah; my binder does that annoying rolling up thing so I have to keep pushing it down :P
It's hard to tell since the phone is blocking your jawline which is kind of an important view, but you're looking pretty passable as a young man to me! I agree you could use a better binder or a looser shirt and the glasses frames aren't my favorites, but I don't think they are feminine or anything. Looking good, Elis!
Quote from: FtMitch on April 03, 2016, 12:28:04 PM
It's hard to tell since the phone is blocking your jawline which is kind of an important view, but you're looking pretty passable as a young man to me! I agree you could use a better binder or a looser shirt and the glasses frames aren't my favorites, but I don't think they are feminine or anything. Looking good, Elis!
Thanks; maybe I'm not cursed to look female for the rest of my life after all :)
Quote from: Elis on April 03, 2016, 12:42:36 PM
Thanks; maybe I'm not cursed to look female for the rest of my life after all :)
If I JUST saw your face I would think you were sort of an androgynous nerdy guy. I like that look. I hope you do. So can I ask what is your orientation just out of curiosity?
Quote from: alienbodybuilder on April 03, 2016, 08:21:18 PM
If I JUST saw your face I would think you were sort of an androgynous nerdy guy. I like that look. I hope you do. So can I ask what is your orientation just out of curiosity?
I really like the look Cameron Cretney from youtube has. I really wished i look like him. I would say my orientation was queer/demisexual.
Ellis, you do look better in the 2nd pic; I agree with the comments on your glasses, loser shirt, and better binder. We can be real critical about evaluating ourselves on passing. I general I think you pass and working on the comments would even help you pass better. You definitely are not cursed to living looking as the female. T works so nicely for most of us enjoy all the changes.
Quote from: Elis on April 04, 2016, 04:43:31 AM
I really like the look Cameron Cretney from youtube has. I really wished i look like him. I would say my orientation was queer/demisexual.
I didn't know who he was and googled him. I think you look better than him.
Quote from: alienbodybuilder on April 04, 2016, 06:33:31 PM
I didn't know who he was and googled him. I think you look better than him.
Omg thank you; you just made my day :)
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I'm growing out the ginger bit and I had it cut short and idk if I still pass?! Also I'm fat and idk and I started T the other week and idk many stress and also the other day someone threw something at me and called me derogatory words and someone else spat at me so obviously I don't pass idk?!
And yeah Elis you pass but with those improvements mentioned you could defo pass even more. But you honestly look just like one of my friends ahah so.
Quote from: Menoimagination on April 05, 2016, 03:33:02 AM
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I'm growing out the ginger bit and I had it cut short and idk if I still pass?! Also I'm fat and idk and I started T the other week and idk many stress and also the other day someone threw something at me and called me derogatory words and someone else spat at me so obviously I don't pass idk?!
And yeah Eli's you pass but with those improvements mentioned you could defo pass even more. But you honestly look just like one of my friends ahah so.
You're definitely not fat. I can't believe someone would do that to you. >:(. If I was there I'd give them a piece of my mind. You pass to me and I really like your hairstyle. You have a jawline many guys wished they had; including me.
And thanks for the compliment :). I bought myself a new binder. Just have to save up to get some new glasses.
Nope, not fat. And yes, you pass. You've got a great jawline and you're rocking the eyebrows.
As to people yelling/throwing stuff/spitting - don't worry about them. What do they know? Nothing. Obviously. That has nothing to do with you.
Ok thanks guys :) I feel better about myself now I guess :)
Elis, tbh your glasses aren't like that bad like they are just normal wire frames, right? Loads of guys wear those, I mean they aren't trendy rn I know ahah because all the other people my age have the plastic ones but the plastic ones might not suit your face idk I know they don't suit mine. Like, at least they aren't girly glasses, right? I don't think they are, anyway...?!
Quote from: Menoimagination on April 05, 2016, 03:53:13 AM
Elis, tbh your glasses aren't like that bad like they are just normal wire frames, right? Loads of guys wear those, I mean they aren't trendy rn I know ahah because all the other people my age have the plastic ones but the plastic ones might not suit your face idk I know they don't suit mine. Like, at least they aren't girly glasses, right? I don't think they are, anyway...?!
I know they're not terrible but like you said it'll be great if I could wear glasses that I see other men wearing. Before T it was very hard to find frames that suited me; so I hope with my new masculine face it'll be easier. I hope new glasses will boost my confidence anyway because I've had this pair for the last 2 years. I'm guessing these glasses look pretty much unisex; so no worries :)
Seems like everyone in my department is going for chunky black plastic frames - guys and gals.
Quote from: Menoimagination on April 05, 2016, 03:33:02 AM
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I'm growing out the ginger bit and I had it cut short and idk if I still pass?! Also I'm fat and idk and I started T the other week and idk many stress and also the other day someone threw something at me and called me derogatory words and someone else spat at me so obviously I don't pass idk?!
And yeah Elis you pass but with those improvements mentioned you could defo pass even more. But you honestly look just like one of my friends ahah so.
Where do you live that someone would treat you that way? I think you look handsome.
Quote from: Menoimagination on April 05, 2016, 03:53:13 AM
Ok thanks guys :) I feel better about myself now I guess :)
Elis, tbh your glasses aren't like that bad like they are just normal wire frames, right? Loads of guys wear those, I mean they aren't trendy rn I know ahah because all the other people my age have the plastic ones but the plastic ones might not suit your face idk I know they don't suit mine. Like, at least they aren't girly glasses, right? I don't think they are, anyway...?!
I subscribed to you on Youtube.
I live in England and normally the general public don't treat me like that, generally it's just people who go to school with me.
Thanks :D
That is crazy! I live in Dallas, Texas and no one has ever even commented anything negative about my gender or sexuality. Of course it is possible that I radiate a sense of "I will be happy to punch you if you mess with me"--I am a pretty alpha person who is more than a little aggressive!
Honestly I think you pass really well. No, you don't look like some super hulky bro or whatever, but you look like a guy. Maybe you are getting hassled because they think you're too slim and untraditionally masculine as a man and don't like that? (I am not sure what word they called you....)
Quote from: Menoimagination on April 05, 2016, 06:50:03 AM
I live in England and normally the general public don't treat me like that, generally it's just people who go to school with me.
Thanks :D
I'm sorry to hear that. High school/college kids are meaner than the rest of the world! Mostly mature adults talk behind your back and give you mean looks if they don't like you, sometimes will give you a hard time. I live in a small religious city in the US, and people just give me a double take and unfriendly look.
Quote from: Daydreamer on March 31, 2016, 10:11:43 PM
Took this earlier this month to have a little throwback earlier this month. I found my old "Ident-a-Kid" card that I got issued when I was five while looking for loose change for my top surgery fund jar.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Femptyclosets.com%2Fforum%2Fmembers%2F12565-albums5829-picture57414.jpg&hash=8a22e996c3e8d96471850be32e02cea5a2f51812)
Bumping since I'm not sure if got lost in the thread. Sorry if I'm being a total attention whore.
Daydreamer I can't see any photo of you?!
Maybe it is my phone playing up?
Quote from: Menoimagination on April 06, 2016, 02:08:09 AM
Daydreamer I can't see any photo of you?!
Maybe it is my phone playing up?
I can't see it either... (also on my phone).
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Quote from: Elis on April 03, 2016, 11:35:48 AM
Thanks :). Yeah; my binder does that annoying rolling up thing so I have to keep pushing it down :P
If you have problems with your binder rolling up, I would suggest tucking it into your pants. That's what I do and I've never had any issues.
Sorry it's in black and white haha. Any tips? It's not the best picture in the world but oh well.
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Quote from: arice on April 06, 2016, 05:41:30 AM
I can't see it either... (also on my phone).
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That's weird. I can see it on my end. Here it is again:
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I see you now Daydreamer. I'd say you pass.
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Quote from: Zeno on April 08, 2016, 05:25:20 PM
Sorry it's in black and white haha. Any tips? It's not the best picture in the world but oh well.
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I can't see that picture at all.
Quote from: Zeno on April 08, 2016, 05:25:20 PM
Sorry it's in black and white haha. Any tips? It's not the best picture in the world but oh well.
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I could see it when you first posted it but now it's gone :/. You still look like any regular guy.
Quote from: Elis on April 16, 2016, 05:00:18 AM
I could see it when you first posted it but now it's gone :/. You still look like any regular guy.
My pictures always tend to do that haha, not sure why. But thank you! :)
Nervous about this one. Here we go. People elsewhere tell me I pass, but I always get female endearments from shopkeepers etc., even when I don't speak. I don't yet own a binder or many male clothes.
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Quote from: Wild-Eyed on April 25, 2016, 07:13:06 PM
Nervous about this one. Here we go. People elsewhere tell me I pass, but I always get female endearments from shopkeepers etc., even when I don't speak. I don't yet own a binder or many male clothes.
You look pretty masculine androgynous. There's nothing feminine about your style at all. My guess is, because women dressing masculinely is relatively common and they tend to look more androgynous, if someone sees a person who is androgynous, they could be more likely to guess female. Especially if you have a feminine or androgynous voice. Especially if you're talking with a woman. They pick up on these things.
If passing is really important to you, I'd suggest going with an ultra-classic. Think white t-shirt under a button-down with dark blue jeans and an ivy league or side-part haircut, no jewelry, maybe a watch. You know, that kinda thing. Or just one of those things that you like.
Some people don't like the idea of trying to "pass", but I don't see a problem with it if it's something a person /wants/ to do vs feels they /have/ to do. I wanted to - it made me feel happier and more confident. But that's not gonna be for everyone and no one should actually need to do that. But that's another story =p and I digress.
Really, I think you could just correct people. Maybe look surprised and say "Woah, no I'm a guy." I kinda doubt anyone would argue with you on that. Maybe try it with the checkout lady at Walmart or Starbucks, see what happens and take it from there.
That's my take on it, anywho. And FWIW, you look awesome dude and I really dig that haircut. I wish I could get away with a longer cut but I look like a dork if I do lol.
-kicks Daydreamer out of the Do I pass thread- Shoo, you're in the wrong spot. Off to the "You look badass dude" thread for you. ;)
Quote from: Asa Spades on April 26, 2016, 12:13:38 AM
-kicks Daydreamer out of the Do I pass thread- Shoo, you're in the wrong spot. Off to the "You look badass dude" thread for you. ;)
No kidding.
Get yourself over to the badass section, dude.
Quote from: Asa Spades on April 26, 2016, 12:10:29 AM
You look pretty masculine androgynous. There's nothing feminine about your style at all. My guess is, because women dressing masculinely is relatively common and they tend to look more androgynous, if someone sees a person who is androgynous, they could be more likely to guess female. Especially if you have a feminine or androgynous voice. Especially if you're talking with a woman. They pick up on these things.
If passing is really important to you, I'd suggest going with an ultra-classic. Think white t-shirt under a button-down with dark blue jeans and an ivy league or side-part haircut, no jewelry, maybe a watch. You know, that kinda thing. Or just one of those things that you like.
Some people don't like the idea of trying to "pass", but I don't see a problem with it if it's something a person /wants/ to do vs feels they /have/ to do. I wanted to - it made me feel happier and more confident. But that's not gonna be for everyone and no one should actually need to do that. But that's another story =p and I digress.
Really, I think you could just correct people. Maybe look surprised and say "Woah, no I'm a guy." I kinda doubt anyone would argue with you on that. Maybe try it with the checkout lady at Walmart or Starbucks, see what happens and take it from there.
That's my take on it, anywho. And FWIW, you look awesome dude and I really dig that haircut. I wish I could get away with a longer cut but I look like a dork if I do lol.
I gave a "Take Ivy"-crossed-with-"professor" look a go today. Didn't work out so well. I'm too ashamed to post photos.
Just shaved my hair for the first time (oops) and no sure if I pass less with it.
Thoughts? :33
http://imgur.com/a/HwssP
Hopping on the "do I pass?" train...
http://imgur.com/A8hhhvM (http://imgur.com/A8hhhvM)
http://imgur.com/HyL2yWV (http://imgur.com/HyL2yWV)
Quote from: Meowt on May 21, 2016, 06:52:13 PM
Just shaved my hair for the first time (oops) and no sure if I pass less with it.
Thoughts? :33
http://imgur.com/a/HwssP
You definitely still pass.
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Quote from: Meowt on May 21, 2016, 06:52:13 PM
Just shaved my hair for the first time (oops) and no sure if I pass less with it.
Thoughts? :33
http://imgur.com/a/HwssP
Yep you still pass :)
Quote from: noahjames on May 21, 2016, 09:37:52 PM
Hopping on the "do I pass?" train...
http://imgur.com/A8hhhvM (http://imgur.com/A8hhhvM)
http://imgur.com/HyL2yWV (http://imgur.com/HyL2yWV)
Yes! Also adorable.
Quote from: noahjames on May 21, 2016, 09:37:52 PM
Hopping on the "do I pass?" train...
http://imgur.com/A8hhhvM (http://imgur.com/A8hhhvM)
http://imgur.com/HyL2yWV (http://imgur.com/HyL2yWV)
I think you can hop right on the "bad ass" train.
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So how do you think I look? I think my new glasses make me look dorkier but can't do anything about that :P
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9gp8ku7ql53g3om/20160523_133144.jpg?dl=0
Elis you pass. I coulda sworn you were looking to get modern plastic frames but those aren't so it must've been someone else idk?
Quote from: Menoimagination on May 28, 2016, 07:37:30 AM
Elis you pass. I coulda sworn you were looking to get modern plastic frames but those aren't so it must've been someone else idk?
Thanks :). Yeah; I tried some on in the shop but they didn't seem to look quite right on me; so bought something similar to what I had before instead :P. So do you think the frames look ok on me?
They look good, well I like them on you!
I've posted on this thread before, but it's been a while back. Tomorrow, I start testosterone, and my current forum profile pic is the last pre-T shot I will have of myself. Needless to say, I'm very curious as to if I pass well or not. I am already quite certain that I appear a lot younger than my actual age (I just turned 18 recently), but I have been told before on multiple occasions that I have the appearance of a 12 year old boy. For the most part it boosts my confidence, but at the same time there's that small part of me that longs to actually look like an 18 year old man. Which will come in due time, since I start T tomorrow. (Finally, after many years and a long journey that has only just begun, yet has been so long already!) With that, do I pass well?
You look like a young teen boy to me, but it would be much easier to say if you posted a pic minus the sunglasses. It's hard to tell with much of your face covered.
Btw, Mitch, I noticed your new profile pic and I am jelly of how you look. I know you've been on T longer. Great hairline, dude, and your face looks good. *crosses fingers*
Quote from: AnxietyDisord3r on June 04, 2016, 10:21:41 AM
Btw, Mitch, I noticed your new profile pic and I am jelly of how you look. I know you've been on T longer. Great hairline, dude, and your face looks good. *crosses fingers*
Thanks, man! I've been feeling pretty good! Since I hit 7 months I've started passing almost all the time, which is awesome. I will tell you my secret when it comes to the hairline, though--I shave it at the temples to make it more square, LOL!
Hello everyone! I was wondering if you would be kind enough to check out my selifes on Pinterest? I'm recording my transition on there. The link is in my profile, I'll put it here too.
There are only 8 photos currently. I'd like feed back. Honest feed back, no sugar coating please.
http://pin.it/PZa3rAB (http://pin.it/PZa3rAB) please say if the link is broken!
I would give you a 50/50. At first glance you could pass for either a young teen girl or a VERY young boy, as in late elementary school age, maybe 10 years old. Because your hair is dyed black, I would probably assume that you are a teen girl, though boys are dying their hair younger and younger, so very young boy is also a possibility. It is a HUGE improvement from the first pic, however, when your hair was long. You were definitely seen as a girl then, while I would now have to observe your attire, speech, and movement to decide for sure. The painted fingernails probably aren't a good choice if you want to pass, though. The black hair isn't the best choice, either, but you could get away with it. The haircut works for a weird reason: moms often give their sons that bowl cut when they are kids, so it kind of looks like you're a young boy whose mom cut his hair!
Quote from: FtMitch on June 08, 2016, 12:42:58 AM
I would give you a 50/50. At first glance you could pass for either a young teen girl or a VERY young boy, as in late elementary school age, maybe 10 years old. Because your hair is dyed black, I would probably assume that you are a teen girl, though boys are dying their hair younger and younger, so very young boy is also a possibility. It is a HUGE improvement from the first pic, however, when your hair was long.
Well, I'm sixteen, and I knew for sure that I didn't look my age regardless. The dye is actually an extremely dark blue, which I've heard doesn't come out ;-; I think i will have to bleach it, then dye it back to my natural brown. Do you think blond would be okay? Or do you think it'd be better to go to my natural brown? Either way, I'll need to bleach it.
Quote from: FtMitch on June 08, 2016, 12:42:58 AM
while I would now have to observe your attire, speech, and movement to decide for sure. The painted fingernails probably aren't a good choice if you want to pass, though. The black hair isn't the best choice, either, but you could get away with it. The haircut works for a weird reason: moms often give their sons that bowl cut when they are kids, so it kind of looks like you're a young boy whose mom cut his hair!
Oh wow. I didn't think I was at the stage of people needing to observe just yet! That's amazing :) I did have a small group of children who looked about ten years old who kept looking at me, basically staring at me for quite awhile... Until they came to their own conclusions, that I was a tr**ny. Greaaaat... :-\
The black nail polish has come off! No more! I have a lot of makeup so it's weird just leaving it be. My hair was done at a salon... And I didn't ask for a bowl cut... :'( omg. At least it works though lmao. Thank you very much for being honest!! I like it!! :D Another question, do you think I could get away with asking people to call me a male name? Maybe not just yet, idk.
Thank you Mitch, I really appreciate it 🌸
Hey Oz; you do look sorta young for your age but so do most trans men; pre or post T; so nothing to worry about. I thought your hair was black too and it does suit you. I tend to think when dying your hair any colour you have to make sure you go to a professional place and spend quite a bit of money; so not ideal for your current situation. Dying your hair blond is especially tricky because you have to make sure your skin is fair enough and you get the right shade. So I'd say go back to brown.
I didn't think it looked like a bowl cut; more like the sorta hair style you saw men in the 90s sporting; but in a good way. Few are able to pull it off.
I don't think there's any such thing as being able to 'pull off' people calling you by your male name. People need to learn it's not a special need to be referred to by another name and pronouns than the one you were assigned with. It's a necessity when you're trans.
I thought you passed well in the picture with the hoodie. In that picture, I saw a 12-15 year old boy. I like the haircut and I don't mind the colour.
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Quote from: Elis on June 08, 2016, 06:12:20 AM
Hey Oz; you do look sorta young for your age but so do most trans men; pre or post T; so nothing to worry about. I thought your hair was black too and it does suit you. I tend to think when dying your hair any colour you have to make sure you go to a professional place and spend quite a bit of money; so not ideal for your current situation. Dying your hair blond is especially tricky because you have to make sure your skin is fair enough and you get the right shade. So I'd say go back to brown.
Hello Elis! I've always felt a little odd, with how young I look, but I have also noticed that it seems to be a common thing with trans men. It seems to be a family thing too, my older brother is nineteen but looks about sixteen... He only starts to look mature when he lets his facial grow. Same for my father; has always looked younger. Guess it becomes a good thing when you start getting old :laugh:
Everyone thinks my hair is black, so let's just say it is.:) In the sunlight you can see a slight shimmer of blue. Spending money on my hair and going to a salon isn't a problem at all - I'm in care, so it's all covered. They get a budget to spend. If I ask, they can book an appointment for me to go and have my hair bleached and then dyed back to brown.
As I'll need it bleached regardless, I might take it in steps. See how it looks, then if it looks bad, go to brown. I do think brown would look more natural and help that little bit with passing. I've only ever met two boys with blond hair in my life time. Not common here.
Quote from: Elis on June 08, 2016, 06:12:20 AM
I didn't think it looked like a bowl cut; more like the sorta hair style you saw men in the 90s sporting; but in a good way. Few are able to pull it off.
I don't think there's any such thing as being able to 'pull off' people calling you by your male name. People need to learn it's not a special need to be referred to by another name and pronouns than the one you were assigned with. It's a necessity when you're trans.
ah thanks! I kinda like my cut too, I'm making it work. The less I do with it, the more I pass.
When it comes to male name and pronouns: being in care makes it a bit more complex. Firstly, they need to ask permission from my social worker and my Camhs worker. They both take the role of parent, as there's nobody else around to consent, and decide what can and cannot happen. So, we're waiting for that. I've asked about being called a he instead, but I've been told it might not be able to happen because "you haven't had the surgery... So until then, you're still a girl. You're still a she." ._. Then there's the fact that me and my keyworker need to explain to everyone, staff and children, what the hell is going on. Why I'm suddenly being called Ozzy.
Quote from: arice on June 08, 2016, 06:21:17 AM
I thought you passed well in the picture with the hoodie. In that picture, I saw a 12-15 year old boy. I like the haircut and I don't mind the colour.
thank you very much! I went out today in that hoodie, and passed! For the first time ever!! I couldn't believe it!! I had to act cool about it, but OMG I'm over the moon!!!!
Quote from: OzBunny on June 07, 2016, 04:03:52 PM
I'd like feed back. Honest feed back, no sugar coating please.
I think you look most masculine in the picture taken at half past twelve in the morning. It has something to do with your smile, or in that photo, lack thereof. Your smile accentuates some female qualities. I have the same issue, even in my 40's! I have been trying to show expression more with my eyes than with my smile, as it really helps. Young men your age are often pretty solemn with expressions anyway, in my opinion. Maybe your natural hair color is best...or maybe you will go through a bunch of styles/colors as you find your best look!
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I start T in less than 8 hours :o
Gimme some opinions
You look hella masculine and manly already; T is going to work miraculously for you :)
Quote from: Sam- on June 30, 2016, 05:25:35 AM
I start T in less than 8 hours :o
Gimme some opinions
You already look passable.
Hey oz
My honest opinion.you look a lot like a friend of mines son. However, you still have some girlish features. Mostly the neck. With T you'll probably do very well. I wouldn't worry too much as your very young.
That is my very honest opinion. Your lucky to start at such a young age. You'll do just fine.
Be happy
Stevie
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Only recent pic I have, here's a man in uniform
Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on July 06, 2016, 01:51:02 AM
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Only recent pic I have, here's a man in uniform
You pass easily! I like the hair.
I was nervous when I first saw this topic, but I may as well: (broke my dashed binder so baggy hoodie, and excuse the horrible chubby face!)
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Your face doesn't look chubby at all! i see jawlines and cheekbones :P
Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on July 06, 2016, 01:51:02 AM
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Only recent pic I have, here's a man in uniform
Looks passing to me... you even remind me of a guy I know in some way.
Quote from: Peep on July 06, 2016, 04:37:36 PM
Your face doesn't look chubby at all! i see jawlines and cheekbones :P
Thanks. Do I pass, though? I feel as though I look like a twelve-year-old or a lesbian. I start T in seven months.
Quote from: Blue Cat on July 07, 2016, 02:55:43 AM
Thanks. Do I pass, though? I feel as though I look like a twelve-year-old or a lesbian. I start T in seven months.
To me, it's a bit 'edgy'... you seem to look like one of those that make me think "doesn't matter too much, but is that a boy or a girl?" - not inherently bad, but not really passing either. Maybe it's the rather 'neat' shape of your eyebrows. Definitely worlds away from looking like a teenage boy though.
Quote from: Blue Cat on July 06, 2016, 02:31:38 PM
You pass easily! I like the hair.
I was nervous when I first saw this topic, but I may as well: (broke my dashed binder so baggy hoodie, and excuse the horrible chubby face!)
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Hey thanks man!
And irrelevant to the question but dang you look nice, I love the hair color, 10/10 would run fingers through said hair
Quote from: Platzhalter on July 07, 2016, 01:08:13 PM
To me, it's a bit 'edgy'... you seem to look like one of those that make me think "doesn't matter too much, but is that a boy or a girl?" - not inherently bad, but not really passing either. Maybe it's the rather 'neat' shape of your eyebrows. Definitely worlds away from looking like a teenage boy though.
I get "are you a boy or a girl?" a lot. I need to get my eyebrows fixed, but I'm unsure how. I could shave the edges maybe.
Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on July 07, 2016, 01:54:28 PM
Hey thanks man!
And irrelevant to the question but dang you look nice, I love the hair color, 10/10 would run fingers through said hair
Thanks. :) Just a pity I don't pass.
Quote from: Blue Cat on July 07, 2016, 02:06:08 PM
I get "are you a boy or a girl?" a lot. I need to get my eyebrows fixed, but I'm unsure how. I could shave the edges maybe.
If you're getting on T soon I might not stress out about it too much, they might thicken up. Some guys use a bit of eyebrow pencil to do that too, but I don't know the specific technique >.>
I'm visually andro too, and i find i pass better if i keep my hair short at the sides, above the ears kind of thing. i usually only pass as a younger boy though :(
if you like the way you look now though, don't feel like you have to change it
I suppose its time to do an update. Full body (I hate my hips), and face....
Pushing 11 months on T.
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i think you pass
but also a question, how do you slim your hips down?
Quote from: jordmungand on July 10, 2016, 03:53:05 AM
i think you pass
but also a question, how do you slim your hips down?
Me? I don't actively. Not really. Don't really feel like there is much I can do. I don't carry fat there so I can't lose it. The problem is my pelvis is wide and my trochanters stick out quite a bit.
I just wear whatever jeans I want and try not to think about it. Loose ones like these make my thighs look fatter than they are, but skinny jeans make my actual pelvis look giant. They are just different trade offs.
Thanks for the reply btw. I still get unsure about how I really look to others.
Quote from: WanderingFace on July 08, 2016, 09:16:07 PM
I suppose its time to do an update. Full body (I hate my hips), and face....
Pushing 11 months on T.
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You pass very well, but those pants don't help your hips. The flare makes your hips look larger. A straight or tapered leg would fix this.
Quote from: Gilbert Rose on June 07, 2016, 04:03:52 PM
Hello everyone! I was wondering if you would be kind enough to check out my selifes on Pinterest? I'm recording my transition on there. The link is in my profile, I'll put it here too.
There are only 8 photos currently. I'd like feed back. Honest feed back, no sugar coating please.
http://pin.it/PZa3rAB (http://pin.it/PZa3rAB) please say if the link is broken!
You'll pass if you stop dyeing your hair, or dye your eyebrows to match. Passing and hair dye in an unnatural hair colour don't mix. In a few photos you seem to be wearing shirts that show cleavage which isn't good for passing. In the photo with your hair up, you actually look more your age and pass better. If you cut it I think you'll pass pretty well, actually.
Well, since I hate adding my own pictures to the internet so much, I didn't think I'd end up doing this, but here's a picture. If it asks for a password, it's 168433
http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah119/Tsushima/20160815_0016091_zpswglmkh4f.jpg
Don't mind the horrible quality of the picture and the choice in clothing, I was too lazy to put on something other than my PJs. Any comments/tips? Also, how old do I look?
Quote from: Kanzaki on August 14, 2016, 05:45:04 PM
Well, since I hate adding my own pictures to the internet so much, I didn't think I'd end up doing this, but here's a picture. If it asks for a password, it's 168433
http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah119/Tsushima/20160815_0016091_zpswglmkh4f.jpg
Don't mind the horrible quality of the picture and the choice in clothing, I was too lazy to put on something other than my PJs. Any comments/tips? Also, how old do I look?
You pass as a 13 years old boy.
Quote from: WanderingFace on July 08, 2016, 09:16:07 PM
I suppose its time to do an update. Full body (I hate my hips), and face....
Pushing 11 months on T.
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Your face looks 100% guy to me.
Actually reminds me of a guy at work.
Quote from: Sebby Michelango on August 15, 2016, 06:58:11 AM
You pass as a 13 years old boy.
Anything I can do to look older than that?
Quote from: Kanzaki on August 15, 2016, 08:14:28 AM
Anything I can do to look older than that?
Starting T and styling your hair more would help. When your hair lies down like that, you would appear younger. Justin Bieber had a similar haircut in 2009 and it's associated with young boys, since it's most young people who has haircuts like that.
Quote from: Sebby Michelango on August 15, 2016, 08:45:50 AM
Starting T and styling your hair more would help. When your hair lies down like that, you would appear younger. Justin Bieber had a similar haircut in 2009 and it's associated with young boys, since it's most young people who has haircuts like that.
Well, I started T a few days ago but it'll be a while before it makes a difference. Not sure what you mean by styling, can you maybe elaborate on that?
Kansaki- you look like an androgynous guy. As for styling i recomend drying your hair into a quiff then using either pomade or wax to hold it in place.
Quote from: Elis on August 15, 2016, 12:03:21 PM
Kansaki- you look like an androgynous guy. As for styling i recomend drying your hair into a quiff then using either pomade or wax to hold it in place.
I considered something like that but I don't want to end up looking like a girl (or lesbian) since a lot of girls have undercuts in the community that I hang around with, and I'm not quite sure about how my hairline looks. What scares me too is that you have to put a crapload of things in your hair for that and I have a habit of putting my hands in my hair, it's really unsettling when it feels like straw or just doesn't move. That, and I just don't have the dedication to do that every morning (especially since I get up pretty much in the middle of the night). I'm sort of looking for something low maintenance, if there is anything like that.
Quote from: Kanzaki on August 15, 2016, 11:59:07 AM
Well, I started T a few days ago but it'll be a while before it makes a difference. Not sure what you mean by styling, can you maybe elaborate on that?
Go for something classical. You can go for longer hair at the top and shorter at the sides. Than you can try to put the hair at the top more to the side. If you gets problems with the hairline, you can shape it with shaving. You can try to get a more straight square hairline. You would still look young, but you might appear a few years older. Pixie haircuts, round Justin Bieber haircuts and spikey haircuts aren't recommended. Pixie and spikey hair cuts are in fashion for butch women. Justin Bieber's 2009 haircut screams "Young boy", not "mature man". My best advice are being patient. It takes time before testosterone works. About 1 to 3 years, you would probably look more like a grown man - it would mature your appearance. But at least you do pass, you just pass younger than your real age. When you get old, it might be a advantage. Just look at the celebrities, everybody wants to look young. I've heard about celebs who doesn't want to age.
Perhaps you would like these haircuts.
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Quote from: Meowt on May 21, 2016, 06:52:13 PM
Just shaved my hair for the first time (oops) and no sure if I pass less with it.
Thoughts? :33
http://imgur.com/a/HwssP
You do still pass. :)
Quote from: Sebby Michelango on August 16, 2016, 07:28:52 AM
Go for something classical. You can go for longer hair at the top and shorter at the sides. Than you can try to put the hair at the top more to the side. If you gets problems with the hairline, you can shape it with shaving. You can try to get a more straight square hairline. You would still look young, but you might appear a few years older. Pixie haircuts, round Justin Bieber haircuts and spikey haircuts aren't recommended. Pixie and spikey hair cuts are in fashion for butch women. Justin Bieber's 2009 haircut screams "Young boy", not "mature man". My best advice are being patient. It takes time before testosterone works. About 1 to 3 years, you would probably look more like a grown man - it would mature your appearance. But at least you do pass, you just pass younger than your real age. When you get old, it might be a advantage. Just look at the celebrities, everybody wants to look young. I've heard about celebs who doesn't want to age.
Thanks for the ideas. Didn't think of shaving the hairline, that could work. I had a look at hairline comparisons (male VS female) and it doesn't really look like I have a female hairline in the first place (which is pretty surprising) so that's good. Honestly I don't think I'll look like a grown man for a very long time but that's alright with me for now, as long as I don't look 12. I'm pretty young anyways so it'd be a bit strange if I looked like a grown man already since most of my friends who are around 18-20 don't. Yeah, I'm glad I pass most of the time. Just the other day some random guy called me lady though which hasn't happened in months so I'm paranoid about not passing again. Yeah, it's definitely an advantage to look younger. I have my mother's genes though, she doesn't look like she's aged much at all for years so hopefully I'll take after her in that aspect.
This is my first time posting on this thread, so I hope I did the links right...and sorry that I can't take a decent picture to save my life.
I'm pre-everything, and still in the closet, so I'm a long way off from going full-time or anything like that. I'm just wondering where I'm starting from and if it would be possible to try passing when I'm out by myself sometime.
Since I didn't take any full-body pictures, I should probably mention that I'm 5'11" and 3/4 (basically 6 foot), which helps me get "mistaken" for a guy pretty often lol. I'm sixteen, but I probably don't look a day over 12 with the baby face thing I've got going on, but oh well.
I'm fully aware that I don't pass that well, so don't be afraid to be honest. I promise you won't hurt my feelings :laugh:. I'm looking for honest criticism here. So if you saw me on the street, what would you think? Thanks in advance!
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f329/ollie226/IMG_0916_zpsvi4f8x2a.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f329/ollie226/Photo%20on%208-16-16%20at%2010.06%20PM%203_zps2pbklm29.jpg
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p.s. all you guys look great :eusa_clap:
Passing is far more than a pretty face but my honest opinion is if you get on the blocker soon, you should have little difficulty passing. Your face is currently between androgynous and feminine with the additional bonus that long hair should look good on you.
Quote from: Ollie_Ryan on August 16, 2016, 11:20:46 PM
This is my first time posting on this thread, so I hope I did the links right...and sorry that I can't take a decent picture to save my life.
I'm pre-everything, and still in the closet, so I'm a long way off from going full-time or anything like that. I'm just wondering where I'm starting from and if it would be possible to try passing when I'm out by myself sometime.
Since I didn't take any full-body pictures, I should probably mention that I'm 5'11" and 3/4 (basically 6 foot), which helps me get "mistaken" for a guy pretty often lol. I'm sixteen, but I probably don't look a day over 12 with the baby face thing I've got going on, but oh well.
I'm fully aware that I don't pass that well, so don't be afraid to be honest. I promise you won't hurt my feelings [emoji23]. I'm looking for honest criticism here. So if you saw me on the street, what would you think? Thanks in advance!
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f329/ollie226/IMG_0916_zpsvi4f8x2a.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f329/ollie226/Photo%20on%208-16-16%20at%2010.06%20PM%203_zps2pbklm29.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f329/ollie226/IMG_0909_zpsy0wung6q.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f329/ollie226/Photo%20on%208-16-16%20at%2010.04%20PM_zps3dxxglnn.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f329/ollie226/IMG_0918_zpscg0vff26.jpg
p.s. all you guys look great :eusa_clap:
You look like a 16 year old boy to me... at least in most of the pictures. You have the expression and body language down and your looks are androgynous to masculine.
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Quote from: Dena on August 16, 2016, 11:33:17 PM
Passing is far more than a pretty face but my honest opinion is if you get on the blocker soon, you should have little difficulty passing. Your face is currently between androgynous and feminine with the additional bonus that long hair should look good on you.
Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, I probably won't be able to go on blockers since I'm not in a position to come out, but I think I'm nearing the end of puberty anyways. Luckily, most of the women in my family are lacking in the chest department. The only thing I'm worried about is the hips, but with some exercise and a little vitamin T, those should slim down.
Quote from: arice on August 16, 2016, 11:43:36 PM
You look like a 16 year old boy to me... at least in most of the pictures. You have the expression and body language down and your looks are androgynous to masculine.
Thanks. I guess being exhausted from starting school helps with that "dead inside" look haha
Quote from: Ollie_Ryan on August 16, 2016, 11:20:46 PM
This is my first time posting on this thread, so I hope I did the links right...and sorry that I can't take a decent picture to save my life.
I'm pre-everything, and still in the closet, so I'm a long way off from going full-time or anything like that. I'm just wondering where I'm starting from and if it would be possible to try passing when I'm out by myself sometime.
Since I didn't take any full-body pictures, I should probably mention that I'm 5'11" and 3/4 (basically 6 foot), which helps me get "mistaken" for a guy pretty often lol. I'm sixteen, but I probably don't look a day over 12 with the baby face thing I've got going on, but oh well.
I'm fully aware that I don't pass that well, so don't be afraid to be honest. I promise you won't hurt my feelings :laugh:. I'm looking for honest criticism here. So if you saw me on the street, what would you think? Thanks in advance!
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f329/ollie226/IMG_0916_zpsvi4f8x2a.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f329/ollie226/Photo%20on%208-16-16%20at%2010.06%20PM%203_zps2pbklm29.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f329/ollie226/IMG_0909_zpsy0wung6q.jpg
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p.s. all you guys look great :eusa_clap:
You pass as 14 or 15 years old guy for me.
I know I pass for many peoples in real life. But what is your thoughts, guys? The pictures are about one or two years old, but I hasn't changed so much since then. The picture where I have shortest hair are the oldest one and since I didn't like that haircut, I wouldn't go for it anymore. The first picture to the left is the most accurate picture of how I looks like today.
I also have some questions.
1. Can I pass with long hair or is short hair best for passing?
2. Do I pass or not?
3. Which age do I pass as?
Links to the pictures:
http://sebbynilsen.deviantart.com/art/Face-Reveal-630061066?ga_submit_new=10%253A1471969634
Quote from: Sebby Michelango on August 23, 2016, 11:46:07 AM
I know I pass for many peoples in real life. But what is your thoughts, guys? The pictures are about one or two years old, but I hasn't changed so much since then. The picture where I have shortest hair are the oldest one and since I didn't like that haircut, I wouldn't go for it anymore. The first picture to the left is the most accurate picture of how I looks like today.
I also have some questions.
1. Can I pass with long hair or is short hair best for passing?
2. Do I pass or not?
3. Which age do I pass as?
Links to the pictures:
http://sebbynilsen.deviantart.com/art/Face-Reveal-630061066?ga_submit_new=10%253A1471969634
I think you look best in the pic on the left; longer hair definitely suits you. You look sort of inbetween but look more male than female. You look around 16 to me.
Haven't posted in quite a while, I'm almost 3 months on t.
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I'm 18, btw ~
Quote from: slyblue on August 23, 2016, 10:52:35 PM
Haven't posted in quite a while, I'm almost 3 months on t.
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I'm 18, btw ~
You look like any other cute guy; although you look younger than your age but so does every trans guy on this forum ;)
Quote from: Elis on August 23, 2016, 11:52:40 AM
I think you look best in the pic on the left; longer hair definitely suits you. You look sort of inbetween but look more male than female. You look around 16 to me.
I agree.
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Quote from: slyblue on August 23, 2016, 10:52:35 PM
Haven't posted in quite a while, I'm almost 3 months on t.
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I'm 18, btw ~
You pass as a 13 years old guy for me. :)
Quote from: slyblue on August 23, 2016, 10:52:35 PM
Haven't posted in quite a while, I'm almost 3 months on t.
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I'm 18, btw ~
You pass as teenage boy to me... definitely younger than your real age, but still passing relatively well :)
Quote from: Sebby Michelango on August 24, 2016, 09:51:04 AM
You pass as a 13 years old guy for me. :)
Ya you def. look around 10-14, but i am also bad at guessing ages lol :D you look like a cute teenage boy.
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I'm 15, 16 in a month. 4'11 but whatever xD
Quote from: Zeno on August 25, 2016, 08:46:50 AM
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I'm 15, 16 in a month. 4'11 but whatever xD
Dude, you pass and you look your age. 15-16 is best time to pass anyways since not all guys hit puberty quickly (as is your case) Hell, when I was in ninth grade there was this kid that didnt look like a highschooler until 11th grade, lol.
Chances are the voice might not make you pass but if you practiced it somewhat you'll pass as youre age. Youre lucky.
Hopefully you get on T when its legal so you can smoothly transition
Quote from: Zeno on August 25, 2016, 08:46:50 AM
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I'm 15, 16 in a month. 4'11 but whatever xD
Wow... you just look like any other teenage boy to me, so definitely passing :)
Quote from: Zeno on August 25, 2016, 08:46:50 AM
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I'm 15, 16 in a month. 4'11 but whatever xD
You pass as 14 for me. :)
I apologize in advance if I format this post incorrectly in any way, as this is my first post on this site..
Here goes nothing..
(I also apologize for these photos being so up close and personal, all of my photos are selfies that don't really expose below my collar bones.. ::))
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I feel often that people don't know where to place me when they see me. The ma'aming has lessened, but it hasn't been replaced.. I feel people go out of their way to avoid using gender pronouns around me at all. I just.. exist. :-\
I've been strongly debating getting my hair cut at a barber for the sake of passing, but I also want long, glorious hair to couple with my facial hair once it starts growing in thicker (I know it's not visible in the photos, as it's just now started to grow in to the extent that it's sort of visible to people that aren't nearly snoot-to-snoot with me). I'm up for suggestions either way!
I am also 19 years old and have been on testosterone since March 9th, 2016, for anyone curious. :)
Quote from: Nathanos on August 31, 2016, 05:56:09 AM
I apologize in advance if I format this post incorrectly in any way, as this is my first post on this site..
Here goes nothing..
(I also apologize for these photos being so up close and personal, all of my photos are selfies that don't really expose below my collar bones.. ::))
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I feel often that people don't know where to place me when they see me. The ma'aming has lessened, but it hasn't been replaced.. I feel people go out of their way to avoid using gender pronouns around me at all. I just.. exist. :-\
I've been strongly debating getting my hair cut at a barber for the sake of passing, but I also want long, glorious hair to couple with my facial hair once it starts growing in thicker (I know it's not visible in the photos, as it's just now started to grow in to the extent that it's sort of visible to people that aren't nearly snoot-to-snoot with me). I'm up for suggestions either way!
I am also 19 years old and have been on testosterone since March 9th, 2016, for anyone curious. :)
Nathanos,
Welcome to the site.
Congratulations on starting HRT. Your first two photos seem a little more feminine than the last one. I think your idea of a shorter haircut will help. You might keep it short till your facial hair comes in a little stronger.
I also want to share some links with you. They are mostly welcome information and the rules that govern the site. If you have not had a chance to look through them, please take a moment:
Things that you should read
Site Terms of Service & Rules to Live By (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,2.0.html) | Standard Terms & Definitions (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,54369.0.html) | Post Ranks (including when you can upload an avatar) (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,114.0.html.) |
Reputation rules (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,18960.0.html) | News posting & quoting guidelines (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,174951.0.html) | Photo, avatars, & signature images policy (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,59974.msg383866.html#msg383866) |
Once again, welcome to Susan's. Look around, ask questions and join in.
With warmth,
Joanna
http://imgur.com/a/d8VBT
What do you think? First time wearing a binder (38E chest :embarrassed: )
Quote from: Nathanos on August 31, 2016, 05:56:09 AM
I apologize in advance if I format this post incorrectly in any way, as this is my first post on this site..
Here goes nothing..
(I also apologize for these photos being so up close and personal, all of my photos are selfies that don't really expose below my collar bones.. ::))
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbnfCX7X.jpg&hash=fdbcd65efbcc54e6d2716b3e515707d40b5c4631)
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I feel often that people don't know where to place me when they see me. The ma'aming has lessened, but it hasn't been replaced.. I feel people go out of their way to avoid using gender pronouns around me at all. I just.. exist. :-\
I've been strongly debating getting my hair cut at a barber for the sake of passing, but I also want long, glorious hair to couple with my facial hair once it starts growing in thicker (I know it's not visible in the photos, as it's just now started to grow in to the extent that it's sort of visible to people that aren't nearly snoot-to-snoot with me). I'm up for suggestions either way!
I am also 19 years old and have been on testosterone since March 9th, 2016, for anyone curious. :)
You pass and look hella cute :). I wouldn't cut your hair if you're happy with it being longer; I think it's more important to be happy with your presentation rather than follow rules to conform (I think your hair suits you). By around 6-9 months on T you'll pass to everyone you meet so it seems pointless to get your hair cut as that's not really a long wait.
I'm currently growing out my hair from an undercut and it's nost likey gonna take ne a year to get it at least shoulder length :(
Quote from: uk_older_ftm on September 01, 2016, 11:23:01 AM
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What do you think? First time wearing a binder (38E chest :embarrassed: )
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I think you sorta look androgynous. I think sorta longer hair with a quiff would make suit you better; as well as squarer glasses and more close fitting clothes. And the binder makes you look super flat so no worries about that.
Congrats on starting the trans journey btw; I can't imagine how hard it must be to start at an older age.
Quote from: uk_older_ftm on September 01, 2016, 11:23:01 AM
http://imgur.com/a/d8VBT
What do you think? First time wearing a binder (38E chest :embarrassed: )
that binder's definitely doing its job right :)
Quote from: uk_older_ftm on September 01, 2016, 11:23:01 AM
http://imgur.com/a/d8VBT
What do you think? First time wearing a binder (38E chest :embarrassed: )
I think you pass quite well. Binding sucks, especially when you have a larger chest, but if you're self-conscious about it you can try layering shirts or wearing darker colors. Overall though, you've got it going pretty good right now.
Quote from: Peep on September 01, 2016, 05:30:13 PM
that binder's definitely doing its job right :)
Yep. I agree. What brand is it?
Changing your glasses frames would probably help a lot. I would go with something that has a full frame and is more rectangular.
I want to add that I envy your arms. Your wrists and forearms pass very well. I have very narrow wrists even for a woman (I can wear kids watches) so they always give me away.
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Thanks for your comments guys. The binder is an underworks tritop. It's OK, wish it got me flatter but that might he the dysphoria talking :/ have got a gc2b on order too. I think my forearms are OK too, but I'm adding in exercises to build them more too. Am due an eye test, so will get squarer frames this time to help.
As for being older, I've always thought I was just gay, but as time has passed I've realised the truth. Not easy to accept it, but gotta try...
Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on August 26, 2016, 09:36:15 AM
Dude, you pass and you look your age. 15-16 is best time to pass anyways since not all guys hit puberty quickly (as is your case) Hell, when I was in ninth grade there was this kid that didnt look like a highschooler until 11th grade, lol.
Chances are the voice might not make you pass but if you practiced it somewhat you'll pass as youre age. Youre lucky.
Hopefully you get on T when its legal so you can smoothly transition
Luckily for me my voice does pass, I've never had anyone comment on it badly and when I'm on Skype or something with people who don't know I'm trans they don't question it. I don't really get sir or anything on the phone though, but I've not had miss either for a few years luckily. My voice is kinda gender neutral but more towards the male side xD
Quote from: uk_older_ftm on September 02, 2016, 06:36:52 AM
Thanks for your comments guys. The binder is an underworks tritop. It's OK, wish it got me flatter but that might he the dysphoria talking :/ have got a gc2b on order too. I think my forearms are OK too, but I'm adding in exercises to build them more too. Am due an eye test, so will get squarer frames this time to help.
As for being older, I've always thought I was just gay, but as time has passed I've realised the truth. Not easy to accept it, but gotta try...
I'd also recommend wearing shirts with horizontal stripes to hide your chest. I don't know why but horizontal stripes seem to hide everything.
So like I said I got my hair cut recently, I dont like it much when its dry since it fluffs out and seems kind of girly to me
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^this is when its dry
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^ I like how it looks when wet
I might get the bottom of it trimmed more to make it more masculine,
I do pass though, Ive been called sir and other terms for the past two months. That surprises me since I dont see it, but hey I wont complain.
Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on September 06, 2016, 11:25:18 AM
So like I said I got my hair cut recently, I dont like it much when its dry since it fluffs out and seems kind of girly to me
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^this is when its dry
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^ I like how it looks when wet
I might get the bottom of it trimmed more to make it more masculine,
I do pass though, Ive been called sir and other terms for the past two months. That surprises me since I dont see it, but hey I wont complain.
Your hair (when it's dry) doesn't look as feminine as you think. In and of itself it's more of an androgynous cut, but some of your other features help to tip it ever so slightly to the masculine side.
A lot of your traits are already pretty masculine--your nose and jawline especially--and I think the one downside to the longer hair is that it takes away from some of the impact of those features.
In the images where your hair is wet and less predominant, your other attributes stand out.
I think you'd be a really good candidate for a short cut. Not a buzz or anything... but something shorter than it is. Of course, I realize you just got it cut and I'm not trying to be a douche. But it may be something you could consider for the next time.
I mean, if longer hair's your thing, rock it. But if you were a little more conservative with the cut because you were worried about pulling off shorter hair, in my opinion, you shouldn't be.
Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on September 06, 2016, 11:25:18 AM
So like I said I got my hair cut recently, I dont like it much when its dry since it fluffs out and seems kind of girly to me
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^this is when its dry
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^ I like how it looks when wet
I might get the bottom of it trimmed more to make it more masculine,
I do pass though, Ive been called sir and other terms for the past two months. That surprises me since I dont see it, but hey I wont complain.
I honestly really like how it poofs out like that. Maybe it looks worse other times, but in these pictures, it looks great. Very male. I wouldn't question your gender at all. Wet, I don't think it looks so good. But if you really do like it better that way, invest in a straightener, but make sure you get one that can do a lower temperature, and always straighten it at the lowest temp your hair will take it at (otherwise, it will dry your ends out, and cause it to poof in even more unwanted ways when you don't straighten). A straightening shampoo and conditioner will also help weigh your hair down over time, and it will lay more flat on its own.
I know a lot of guys with your haircut, that poofs like that, and I always find it very masculine. It's a great longer-guy haircut. I think it looks great as-is. You're actually lucky you can pull it off so well, since the length is closer to a female bob. If you don't want it as thick when it's dry, maybe you can talk to the barber about layering the underneath a bit, so you can keep the length all around.
Maybe I can just appreciate your cut so much since my hair is too thick and wild to ever be able to lay like that or wear that cut, but it really does look good and manly!
Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on September 06, 2016, 11:25:18 AM
So like I said I got my hair cut recently, I dont like it much when its dry since it fluffs out and seems kind of girly to me
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^this is when its dry
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^ I like how it looks when wet
I might get the bottom of it trimmed more to make it more masculine,
I do pass though, Ive been called sir and other terms for the past two months. That surprises me since I dont see it, but hey I wont complain.
I really like the hair--especially the dry. You look very masculine to me, so no worries there. Beyond that, it's a matter of what you're comfortable with!
My hair is much floofier, lol, in a similar cut. I've got a lot of wave/curl. I've only passed to a toddler so far. If I'm brave at some point I'll post here. Still pre-everything. :)
you look like that guy who stared in the film " The Pianist'
I don't know how to post pictures onto here through my phone, or I'd ask if I pass. In still pre t. 🙄
Thanks guys! The feedback and advice it is much appreciated!
Turns out product kind of helps and hsnt had that 'poof' look in a couple days, and Ive also started seeing it as not that bad anyways. Also I only decided to cut it not too short because I was uncomfortable with a big change, once I get used to this I might graduate to trimming it a bit shorter and see where my ideal hairstyle/length lies from there. It'll be an interesting project on my part since Ive had long hair all my life and no idea how a "male" haircut would look on me.
Quote from: Its_Cayden on September 09, 2016, 04:45:56 AM
I don't know how to post pictures onto here through my phone, or I'd ask if I pass. In still pre t. 🙄
Hey man, what I do is post it to a secondary image hosting service such as imgur, imgur will let you choose and submit an image and when it is submitted it will give you a code to copy and paste onto your post which will allow the image to appear, basically tags if I recall
I give up on figuring it out... 😅
With Photobucket, left click on the direct link to copy the link. With imager, right click on the desired image and use copy link. Place that link in your post as followed.
[img]http//:path.jpg[/img]
Hello everyone, please be kind, I've been having an awful couple of days, although I seem to pass 100% and have been doing so for several months. What do you guys think? Sorry for the semi nekkid pics (sfw), post-shower seems to be my optimal photo taking time.
http://i.imgur.com/c2KXXAf.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/c2KXXAf.jpg)
http://i.imgur.com/9sotVJd.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/9sotVJd.jpg)
Quote from: JamTost on September 10, 2016, 04:21:15 PM
Hello everyone, please be kind, I've been having an awful couple of days, although I seem to pass 100% and have been doing so for several months. What do you guys think? Sorry for the semi nekkid pics (sfw), post-shower seems to be my optimal photo taking time.
http://i.imgur.com/c2KXXAf.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/c2KXXAf.jpg)
http://i.imgur.com/9sotVJd.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/9sotVJd.jpg)
I just see a guy, TBH you look like a young cis-male.
Quote from: JamTost on September 10, 2016, 04:21:15 PM
Hello everyone, please be kind, I've been having an awful couple of days, although I seem to pass 100% and have been doing so for several months. What do you guys think? Sorry for the semi nekkid pics (sfw), post-shower seems to be my optimal photo taking time.
http://i.imgur.com/c2KXXAf.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/c2KXXAf.jpg)
http://i.imgur.com/9sotVJd.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/9sotVJd.jpg)
You definitely pass! And really sorry to hear you've had a rough time lately.
Quote from: JamTost on September 10, 2016, 04:21:15 PM
Hello everyone, please be kind, I've been having an awful couple of days, although I seem to pass 100% and have been doing so for several months. What do you guys think? Sorry for the semi nekkid pics (sfw), post-shower seems to be my optimal photo taking time.
http://i.imgur.com/c2KXXAf.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/c2KXXAf.jpg)
http://i.imgur.com/9sotVJd.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/9sotVJd.jpg)
Yep definite pass.
I rarely post but I'm curious as to what people that are unbiased think.
http://s350.photobucket.com/user/ryderjl/embed/slideshow/Mobile%20Uploads
Quote from: ryderjl on September 11, 2016, 02:48:28 PM
I rarely post but I'm curious as to what people that are unbiased think.
http://s350.photobucket.com/user/ryderjl/embed/slideshow/Mobile%20Uploads
Definitely pass.
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Quote from: ryderjl on September 11, 2016, 02:48:28 PM
I rarely post but I'm curious as to what people that are unbiased think.
http://s350.photobucket.com/user/ryderjl/embed/slideshow/Mobile%20Uploads
Definitely pass.
I'm new here. My name is Kai, and I'm 17... I use he/him pronouns. I'm a Chinese trans dude and I'm pre-T, so I know I don't pass all that well. Still, on a scale on 1 to 10, 10 being the pinnacle of passing, where am I?
http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/Lovelace404/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsdd23oe83.jpeg.html]
And
http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/Lovelace404/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpstgnblybh.jpeg.html
Quote from: Kai_am_i on September 12, 2016, 01:08:33 PM
I'm new here. My name is Kai, and I'm 17... I use he/him pronouns. I'm a Chinese trans dude and I'm pre-T, so I know I don't pass all that well. Still, on a scale on 1 to 10, 10 being the pinnacle of passing, where am I?
http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/Lovelace404/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsdd23oe83.jpeg.html]
And
http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/Lovelace404/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpstgnblybh.jpeg.html
I think you look androgynous. Your ability to pass will depend on things like body language and clothes more than just the appearance of your face. I think you pass better in the second picture (6-7 out of 10) because of your expression and clothes. The first picture, you look like you are on the feminine side of androgynous.
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Quote from: JamTost on September 10, 2016, 04:21:15 PM
Hello everyone, please be kind, I've been having an awful couple of days, although I seem to pass 100% and have been doing so for several months. What do you guys think? Sorry for the semi nekkid pics (sfw), post-shower seems to be my optimal photo taking time.
http://i.imgur.com/c2KXXAf.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/c2KXXAf.jpg)
http://i.imgur.com/9sotVJd.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/9sotVJd.jpg)
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Quote from: ryderjl on September 11, 2016, 02:48:28 PM
I rarely post but I'm curious as to what people that are unbiased think.
http://s350.photobucket.com/user/ryderjl/embed/slideshow/Mobile%20Uploads
You are really handsome and pass very well.
Wolfnight, your hair looks like a bunch of other boys I know ahahp
kai you do sort of pass, yes you look young but you still look like some boys I know.
Every one that I've seen passes somewhat or is on there way to passing
So I was wondering if I still pass with this short hair because over summer I got fed up of overheating and so I cropped it real close?
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Like is it ok??? I was ok with it over summer because no one really saw me but now school and life and I'm worried I might look feminine?
Quote from: Menoimagination on September 14, 2016, 04:13:50 AM
Wolfnight, your hair looks like a bunch of other boys I know ahahp
kai you do sort of pass, yes you look young but you still look like some boys I know.
Every one that I've seen passes somewhat or is on there way to passing
So I was wondering if I still pass with this short hair because over summer I got fed up of overheating and so I cropped it real close?
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Like is it ok??? I was ok with it over summer because no one really saw me but now school and life and I'm worried I might look feminine?
You look very male to me - face, hair, glasses, etc. Not feminine at all.
Quote from: Hughie on September 14, 2016, 01:02:59 PM
You look very male to me - face, hair, glasses, etc. Not feminine at all.
Agreed.
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I'm reluctant to post a picture, but... eh, why not.
I've been on HRT for a little over 11 months.
http://tinypic.com/r/w2jckj/9
Quote from: Stone Magnum on September 14, 2016, 05:32:34 PM
I'm reluctant to post a picture, but... eh, why not.
I've been on HRT for a little over 11 months.
http://tinypic.com/r/w2jckj/9
And you also look very male to me, face and build. Definite pass. :)
Quote from: Kai_am_i on September 12, 2016, 01:08:33 PM
I'm new here. My name is Kai, and I'm 17... I use he/him pronouns. I'm a Chinese trans dude and I'm pre-T, so I know I don't pass all that well. Still, on a scale on 1 to 10, 10 being the pinnacle of passing, where am I?
http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/Lovelace404/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsdd23oe83.jpeg.html]
And
http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/Lovelace404/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpstgnblybh.jpeg.html
hi!! i am chinese also!!
i think you pass as a younger guy
Hi, so my name is Caleb Nathaniel. I'm pre-T and pre-everything, haven't even outered to no one I personally know. Well, except for one guy in a contest. xD I don't even have a binder. I want your opinion as I am pretty confused...
I look at the mirror and I don't think I pass. One stupid source of dysphoria is the face detection in my phone camera. It detects gender and age... Sometimes it says I'm a guy, going from 12 to 24 years (it's pretty crazy xD), and those times I get pretty happy and it is ok. But sometimes it says I'm a woman and I get so dysphoric. Pretty stupid, I know, but pfffs. It got to tell me I was a man when I had my hair a little longer (about my jaw), and now that my hair is shorter... Pfffs.
But, by the other hand, I'm usually called 'sir' in the streets. Recently I went to a photograph contest and everyone thought I was a boy. A "cute and adorable baby-boy" but a boy. xDD I'm 17, everyone told me I look like 12. xD But anyway. I don't even have a binder and my voice isn't as thick as I would like. Guess I look androgynous, but my way of walking, sitting and so tips the scales to more boyish.
I want your opinion, and suggestions about my hair. I actually like it, but I'm not sure if it helps me or not. And anyway, it'll grow soon and I change my cut often. Just to point: I have a rather big forehead and I kind of hate it. So I'm not sure if I'm ready to cut my hair enough to leave it uncovered. And about my glasses... Yeah, I'll change them when I can. I know I have to use them (and they help me a lot to see), but I hate the feeling of them in my nose. xD
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Got happy in there. (? Although I don't like how I look. xD
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Happy with this one. (?
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I'm so yooouuuung. (?
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Last two, today. (? Felt like taking some, I usually don't like photos. xD Well, being infront of the camera.
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These other two, in the contest. I'm not so photogenic. xD
Usually, wouldn't be posting so much photos, but I want opinions from people that doesn't know me, and can't hear my voice or see how I walk and sit and so.
Also... Could you tell me if the name fits me? I know it's a weird question (?), but I had a hard time finding the right name for me... As I actually have two names (and I actually like them, kind of I'll miss them, but if I ever get to adopt or something, and I have a daughter, maybe name her with one of them... Tiare Chantal, the first is pretty weird, uh, but I like it and almost everyone call me by it, just it's... Too feminine)... Well, as I was saying, as I have two names, I felt like I need two names. So... Caleb Nathaniel. Does it sounds ok? I also liked William... Nathaniel can be Nath, Nate and Nathan (for me at least). William can be Liam and Will, and I pretty like all of them. xD And Caleb is a special one for me, as one of my favorite characters (I love writting) is named like that. I'm petite just like him (?)... Good thing I don't like women. Sure it'd be hard to find one smaller than me, I'm not even 5'' tall. xD I mean, I wouldn't need a girl smaller than me, just like... Joking. xD
Finally. I apologize for my english, not a native speaker. And sorry for the big big post. (?
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Quote from: Kai_am_i on September 12, 2016, 01:08:33 PM
I'm new here. My name is Kai, and I'm 17... I use he/him pronouns. I'm a Chinese trans dude and I'm pre-T, so I know I don't pass all that well. Still, on a scale on 1 to 10, 10 being the pinnacle of passing, where am I?
http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/Lovelace404/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsdd23oe83.jpeg.html]
And
http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/Lovelace404/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpstgnblybh.jpeg.html
I think you pass, at least I would call you 'sir' if I saw you on the street. Like someone said before, your body language will help (or not).
Btw, you look cute in the second one. c:
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CodexUmbrae- I think you look sort of androgynous. I don't think you need to cut a lot of your hair up. IMO I think quiffs look best to make someone look more masculine; so you could get something like this https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=long+hair+quiff+male&client=ms-android-samsung&source=lnms&biw=360&bih=615&prmd=ivsn&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwizoMq8ma_PAhVBAsAKHYouAeUQ_AUIBygB#imgrc=jN_9M4o3Ux6pxM%3A. I think it's more important to like how you look rather than follow certain rules on how an ftm 'should' look in order to 'pass'. Plus it seems a shame to cut your hair bcos it takes so long for it to grow back. I'm currently growing my hair out from an undercut and it's gonna take me a year to get it to chin length; so I wish I had your hair ;)
Squarer glasses would also help.
As for your name Nathaniel fits and suits you. Not sure about Caleb because it's suchan unusual name but Caleb Nathaniel has a nice ring to it :).
Also GC2B make the best brand of binders if you're looking to buy one.
Hope this helped.
CodexUmbrae- You do look very very androgynous, so much so that it can be very easy to tip the scale to the guy or girl range so its important that youre conscious of all your other tells like dress, walk, voice. Unfortunately, being seventeen and in school and/or around the same crowd of people your age might be a "tell" in you not being a bio male, I could easily see you as either.
I wouldnt put too much stock in those gender detection apps, theyre fun to use and genuinely help if youre able to get detected right because theyre fairly accurate, but not entirely. Ive seen cis people get misaged or misgendered before so its really a non issue.
I also wouldnt worry if you did like girls haha, as much as being a gay male is a good thing for small guys like us :P (Petite master race), it ultimately depends on who you like and who likes you, we're both super gay (but not really) but I ended up with a girlfriend who's slightly taller than me, hahaha!
I suggest that if you dont like glasses you try out contacts, it takes a little extra practice but for me its not hard to use and I enjoy them,
As for names, its really hard for you to have others pick, since you opened up with Caleb I'd feel bad for dissuading your personal decision, I do have a friend named Caleb its a cool name. I do tend to like names with nicknames though so if it were me I would go with William because I like the sound of that.
Good luck with life, once you get on T things will go much better since you already pass fairly well
Quote from: Elis on September 27, 2016, 04:17:43 AM
CodexUmbrae- I think you look sort of androgynous. I don't think you need to cut a lot of your hair up. IMO I think quiffs look best to make someone look more masculine; so you could get something like this https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=long+hair+quiff+male&client=ms-android-samsung&source=lnms&biw=360&bih=615&prmd=ivsn&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwizoMq8ma_PAhVBAsAKHYouAeUQ_AUIBygB#imgrc=jN_9M4o3Ux6pxM%3A. I think it's more important to like how you look rather than follow certain rules on how an ftm 'should' look in order to 'pass'. Plus it seems a shame to cut your hair bcos it takes so long for it to grow back. I'm currently growing my hair out from an undercut and it's gonna take me a year to get it to chin length; so I wish I had your hair ;)
Squarer glasses would also help.
As for your name Nathaniel fits and suits you. Not sure about Caleb because it's suchan unusual name but Caleb Nathaniel has a nice ring to it :).
Also GC2B make the best brand of binders if you're looking to buy one.
Hope this helped.
Thank you.~ I'll maybe try out that cut in a future. xD And good luck with your hair. c:
Yeah, I'll try square glasses next time, if I still don't get used to wearing glasses, I'll probably switch to contact lenses.
Thaank you. ^^
Thanks, I just ask for one at MORF a week ago, and got an email saying they already shipped it. Hoping it get home faaast. xD I'm so impatient.
Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on September 27, 2016, 11:06:11 AM
CodexUmbrae- You do look very very androgynous, so much so that it can be very easy to tip the scale to the guy or girl range so its important that youre conscious of all your other tells like dress, walk, voice. Unfortunately, being seventeen and in school and/or around the same crowd of people your age might be a "tell" in you not being a bio male, I could easily see you as either.
I wouldnt put too much stock in those gender detection apps, theyre fun to use and genuinely help if youre able to get detected right because theyre fairly accurate, but not entirely. Ive seen cis people get misaged or misgendered before so its really a non issue.
I also wouldnt worry if you did like girls haha, as much as being a gay male is a good thing for small guys like us [emoji14] (Petite master race), it ultimately depends on who you like and who likes you, we're both super gay (but not really) but I ended up with a girlfriend who's slightly taller than me, hahaha!
I suggest that if you dont like glasses you try out contacts, it takes a little extra practice but for me its not hard to use and I enjoy them,
As for names, its really hard for you to have others pick, since you opened up with Caleb I'd feel bad for dissuading your personal decision, I do have a friend named Caleb its a cool name. I do tend to like names with nicknames though so if it were me I would go with William because I like the sound of that.
Good luck with life, once you get on T things will go much better since you already pass fairly well
Yeah, I actually don't get so worried (hope I spelled correctly xD) about how i walk at least. Always been told I walk like a boy. xD I'm working on lowering my voice... And my clothes are a bit of a problem 'causd great part of them are gifts and so, for a girl. At least I have some clothes that I got to choose and they're from men section and I like them. Although I always have to bend the jeans because if I not I step on them. xD
And yeah... At least, I'll move when I finish high school, and I hope that by that time I already started T or something.
Yeah, I know. It's funny when it tells me I'm 12, and it tells a different thing everytime I open it and even when I move angles, so I know. But it keeps bothering me a little. xD I think I'm gonna forget about that app for some time.
Well, you're right. xDD And yeah, I can imagine. Life likes to give surprises, so no one knows. By now, I only get attracted to guys sooo I'll see. xD Anyway, I don't feel like getting into a relationship by now in part because of everyone I know (specially from school) still see me as a girl, and in the other hand 'cause I'm not having great times at all.
Thank you.~ I'm still struggling a little bit with Nathaniel and William... Although, I guess I'll stick with Nathaniel. I saw once it's meaning in a numerology page and I liked it. xD
Thank you very much. ^^
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Alright, so I'll throw myself into the ring here too. Pre-T, pre-everything... feeling very self-conscious. I definitely don't pass if i speak, but I'm hoping to be androgynous at least. Excuse the weird expressions... it's apparently my not-so-secret talent. :)
http://imgur.com/YCM1YGG (http://imgur.com/YCM1YGG)
http://imgur.com/a/PUBoz (http://imgur.com/a/PUBoz)
http://imgur.com/a/zjgMp (http://imgur.com/a/zjgMp)
http://imgur.com/a/W7P56 (http://imgur.com/a/W7P56)
Haha! Well you definitely look waaay younger than your age in those first two pics, nice beanie hat though, I dig wearing them myself. I have to say though you lean towards masculine female or youthful male, so as with anything youve got to play up other traits until you can get on T
Good to see you again, hope you both stick around and feed us updates someday when you become hella manly men cuz dang do I want to see that transformation
Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on September 28, 2016, 06:47:15 AM
Haha! Well you definitely look waaay younger than your age in those first two pics, nice beanie hat though, I dig wearing them myself. I have to say though you lean towards masculine female or youthful male, so as with anything youve got to play up other traits until you can get on T
Good to see you again, hope you both stick around and feed us updates someday when you become hella manly men cuz dang do I want to see that transformation
Cheers! Hey, pushing 40, I'll take all the youthful looks I can get lol. Generally speaking, I do tend to look younger than my actual age, though now you see some wrinkles when I smile.
Since the summer, I've been working on losing weight and improving physical condition. Since the start of the year I've dropped about 15lbs, so that helps to make my face a little less round (the last picture is from June just to show hair, which is bit longer/shaggier now - other pics from last week). Renewing exercise efforts now with running, swimming and workouts.
I'll put a bit more of an update in the other thread. :)
ETA: I knit the hat, so I'm proud lol.
I'm 12 weeks on T today and took some pictures. Most of the time I'm getting called sir or nothing now that my voice has gotten a little deeper. I'm working on losing more weight, but health problems make it complicated. Anyway do I pass and is there anything that you think will help me pass better. I've been playing around with hairstyles some and currently have a sort of textured fade style, that needs a touch up.
http://imgur.com/h82XJlB
http://imgur.com/mNGfF0b
Quote from: Mal on September 30, 2016, 04:33:54 AM
I'm 12 weeks on T today and took some pictures. Most of the time I'm getting called sir or nothing now that my voice has gotten a little deeper. I'm working on losing more weight, but health problems make it complicated. Anyway do I pass and is there anything that you think will help me pass better. I've been playing around with hairstyles some and currently have a sort of textured fade style, that needs a touch up.
http://imgur.com/h82XJlB
http://imgur.com/mNGfF0b
You definitely pass; hard to believe you're only 2 months on T.
Quote from: Mal on September 30, 2016, 04:33:54 AM
I'm 12 weeks on T today and took some pictures. Most of the time I'm getting called sir or nothing now that my voice has gotten a little deeper. I'm working on losing more weight, but health problems make it complicated. Anyway do I pass and is there anything that you think will help me pass better. I've been playing around with hairstyles some and currently have a sort of textured fade style, that needs a touch up.
http://imgur.com/h82XJlB
http://imgur.com/mNGfF0b
Dang it, man, you pass really well! I'm jealous! ;D
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Do I ?
Quote from: Hughie on September 28, 2016, 12:15:34 AM
Alright, so I'll throw myself into the ring here too. Pre-T, pre-everything... feeling very self-conscious. I definitely don't pass if i speak, but I'm hoping to be androgynous at least. Excuse the weird expressions... it's apparently my not-so-secret talent. :)
http://imgur.com/YCM1YGG (http://imgur.com/YCM1YGG)
http://imgur.com/a/PUBoz (http://imgur.com/a/PUBoz)
http://imgur.com/a/zjgMp (http://imgur.com/a/zjgMp)
http://imgur.com/a/W7P56 (http://imgur.com/a/W7P56)
I'd say you look kind of in between, but if your mannerisms are masculine, I'd surely call you sir. For me, you pass better in the second one, don't know exactly why. And your hat is cool, great job with it.~
Quote from: Mal on September 30, 2016, 04:33:54 AM
I'm 12 weeks on T today and took some pictures. Most of the time I'm getting called sir or nothing now that my voice has gotten a little deeper. I'm working on losing more weight, but health problems make it complicated. Anyway do I pass and is there anything that you think will help me pass better. I've been playing around with hairstyles some and currently have a sort of textured fade style, that needs a touch up.
http://imgur.com/h82XJlB
http://imgur.com/mNGfF0b
You pass really well, I wouldn't doubt you're a guy. Congraats.
Quote from: uk_older_ftm on October 01, 2016, 08:51:29 AM
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Do I ?
I'd say yes. You do pass well.~
lol, UK older ftm you look like a teen in that first pic :P
talk about youthfulness
Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on October 01, 2016, 01:56:28 PM
lol, UK older ftm you look like a teen in that first pic :P
talk about youthfulness
Lol that's funny...I'm 35(!)
Quote from: CodexUmbrae on October 01, 2016, 12:01:40 PM
I'd say you look kind of in between, but if your mannerisms are masculine, I'd surely call you sir. For me, you pass better in the second one, don't know exactly why. And your hat is cool, great job with it.~
Cheers!
I do feel a bit in between at the moment, so that's a fair assessment. But if I talk, the gig is up. :)
Quote from: Hughie on September 28, 2016, 12:15:34 AM
Alright, so I'll throw myself into the ring here too. Pre-T, pre-everything... feeling very self-conscious. I definitely don't pass if i speak, but I'm hoping to be androgynous at least. Excuse the weird expressions... it's apparently my not-so-secret talent. :)
http://imgur.com/YCM1YGG (http://imgur.com/YCM1YGG)
http://imgur.com/a/PUBoz (http://imgur.com/a/PUBoz)
http://imgur.com/a/zjgMp (http://imgur.com/a/zjgMp)
http://imgur.com/a/W7P56 (http://imgur.com/a/W7P56)
You doesn't pass yet. Some of your facial features looks soft and feminine.
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11 weeks on T. I feel like my face is what stops me from passing the most.
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^^lilred if you feel its your face its most likely you still got a bit of cheek fat that might tip people off but given a bit more time that will get angular, youre already doing so well and you can pass
Quote from: lil_red on October 08, 2016, 09:56:08 AM
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11 weeks on T. I feel like my face is what stops me from passing the most.
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This is just me but to me it's not your face but actually the shape of your body. Maybe try button down shirts instead of t-shirts to obscure your waist-hip ratio. I get misgendered a lot in t shirts myself. Your forearms actually look quite squishy and feminine. Longer on T will change that, of course.
Quote from: lil_red on October 08, 2016, 09:56:08 AM
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11 weeks on T. I feel like my face is what stops me from passing the most.
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Your face is quite masculine looking; squarer glasses would help; naybe with half frames (I wear glasses myself). Wearing tighter tshirts also help you look more muscular. Just keep in mind you're going to be in the awkward inbetween faze until 7/8 months; which is when most ftms start looking simply male. The wait sucks but it's worth it.
Congrats on getting T btw :)
Quote from: AnxietyDisord3r on October 08, 2016, 11:55:29 AM
This is just me but to me it's not your face but actually the shape of your body. Maybe try button down shirts instead of t-shirts to obscure your waist-hip ratio. I get misgendered a lot in t shirts myself. Your forearms actually look quite squishy and feminine. Longer on T will change that, of course.
The reason I feel it's mostly my face is because I pass almost 100% from behind but maybe 10% face to face. 0% if I speak lol although my voice is finally starting to drop..yay! Muscle definition will definately help and I'm trying to get more consistent with that.
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You guys look great and have a great advantage.
It is much easier for you to pass as male than it is for an MTF to pass as female. You are also less likely to be questioned in male gendered facilities than an MTF is to be questioned in female gendered facilities. I frequently see Cis-females using male public restrooms without any fear of rejection or prosecution.
Again, you guys look great and pass well; enjoy your advantage!
Quote from: mac1 on October 11, 2016, 10:33:08 AM
You guys look great and have a great advantage.
It is much easier for you to pass as male than it is for an MTF to pass as female. You are also less likely to be questioned in male gendered facilities than an MTF is to be questioned in female gendered facilities. I frequently see Cis-females using male public restrooms without any fear of rejection or prosecution.
Again, you guys look great and pass well; enjoy your advantage!
While all that is true, it honestly is not a particularly good feeling to have it stated to you. The fact that there are certain parts of being FTM that helps you pass easier than an MTF might DOESN'T actually mean you avoid the pain, struggle, acceptance issues, self hatred, etc. We FTMs deal with all of that just as deeply and urgently as MTFs do and I feel that we should ALL have a lot of respect for each other and the intense struggles we face rather than trying to call out one person's struggle as somehow less difficult than another's. I know you probably didn't mean the comment in a negative way, but it is a point I get tired of hearing considering all of the many struggles I DO face on a daily basis.
Thought I'd try this out. Do I?
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Sorry, it got quite hectic in my life. I still haven't figured out posting a picture through my phone, I'm not that intelligent within technology. However I have an Instagram account if you wouldn't mind checking out and seeing if I pass or not? It is caydenstrophic it would be cool if you privately messaged me your thoughts! I'm still pre-t...
Hey Cayden, are you okay with comments on your instagram or does it have to be PMs only? Either way I am willing to go over and give it a look
Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on October 14, 2016, 12:49:48 PM
Hey Cayden, are you okay with comments on your instagram or does it have to be PMs only? Either way I am willing to go over and give it a look
Instagram? I'm willing to PM mine although it's mostly photos of things and not of me.
You may comment or privately message, either way is fine by me. :)
Quote from: Little Johnny on October 13, 2016, 05:26:53 AM
Thought I'd try this out. Do I?
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If you're asking if you pass as male, you don't really, but it doesn't look like you've made a lot of effort to. A different, more masculine haircut/color and less or more subtle makeup would help a lot, as would clothes that aren't women's and see through. I definitely see potential as I wondered for a bit if you might be mtf and were asking if you pass in the opposite sense, but right now I instantly see female simply because everything (haircut, hair color, makeup, eyebrow shape, clothes) is more feminine plus you have a small bone structure.
Quote from: Its_Cayden on October 14, 2016, 07:23:37 AM
Sorry, it got quite hectic in my life. I still haven't figured out posting a picture through my phone, I'm not that intelligent within technology. However I have an Instagram account if you wouldn't mind checking out and seeing if I pass or not? It is caydenstrophic it would be cool if you privately messaged me your thoughts! I'm still pre-t...
You look great, especially for being pre-t! I would definitely think you're a teen boy if I saw the instagram account without knowing you were trans, which is about as good as it gets for us fine-boned gents before T. You look way better than I did pre-t, for sure!
Thank you! Some days I feel as if I don't pass, but it is reassuring we'll fellow trans say that you pass. ☺️
Cayden you pass 100% to me. :)
Quote from: FtMitch on October 15, 2016, 09:24:40 PM
If you're asking if you pass as male, you don't really, but it doesn't look like you've made a lot of effort to. A different, more masculine haircut/color and less or more subtle makeup would help a lot, as would clothes that aren't women's and see through. I definitely see potential as I wondered for a bit if you might be mtf and were asking if you pass in the opposite sense, but right now I instantly see female simply because everything (haircut, hair color, makeup, eyebrow shape, clothes) is more feminine plus you have a small bone structure.
I agree with most those things, although I dont really see makeup? I could be wrong I know absolutely nothing about makeup. His hair is short though, he probably assumed it would be male, it would help if it was styled differently if thats the case. I wouldnt discount the makeup automatically though if its used in a sense to do male facial contouring, because that's actually very beneficial since Johnny doesnt have the facial structure to work with yet.
The seethrough shirt though I agree is too feminine, not that I find anything bad with males wearing feminine shirts but pre-T the less feminine tipoffs the better to pass.
You do havs potential though, Johnny. If you try again and try different styles/angles you might look better suited to passing
Hello everyone,
First post here - happy to have found a place to discuss transgender topics.
I'm Henry, 24, FTM, pre-T and pre-surgery. I live in the UK.
I came out to my partner 1 month ago and have my first appointment with Transhealth in London on the 21st Oct. I'm hoping to start T as soon as possible, as I have known I am male inside, for my entire life.
I don't think I pass right now but would appreciate some opinions nonetheless.
My dysphoria centers a lot around my body shape (chest, hips, bum, thighs), which I think makes me 'not pass'.
I'm wearing a gc2b binder in the photos, which flattens me out really well (34DD chest normally...awful) but I can't currently wear it for that long without feeling constricted and panicky. I'm working on it though.
I haven't really been out in public properly as male (due to social anxiety issues), so I'm not sure whether I do pass?
I just can't wait to see my body/face changing on testosterone - to be able to see the true me more clearly will be fantastic.
http://imgur.com/a/AS4Bq - please excuse the somewhat messy bedroom behind me.
http://imgur.com/a/Xlns5
Thank you for your time :)
Quote from: HenryG on October 18, 2016, 08:50:34 AM
Hello everyone,
First post here - happy to have found a place to discuss transgender topics.
I'm Henry, 24, FTM, pre-T and pre-surgery. I live in the UK.
I came out to my partner 1 month ago and have my first appointment with Transhealth in London on the 21st Oct. I'm hoping to start T as soon as possible, as I have known I am male inside, for my entire life.
I don't think I pass right now but would appreciate some opinions nonetheless.
My dysphoria centers a lot around my body shape (chest, hips, bum, thighs), which I think makes me 'not pass'.
I'm wearing a gc2b binder in the photos, which flattens me out really well (34DD chest normally...awful) but I can't currently wear it for that long without feeling constricted and panicky. I'm working on it though.
I haven't really been out in public properly as male (due to social anxiety issues), so I'm not sure whether I do pass?
I just can't wait to see my body/face changing on testosterone - to be able to see the true me more clearly will be fantastic.
http://imgur.com/a/AS4Bq - please excuse the somewhat messy bedroom behind me.
http://imgur.com/a/Xlns5
Thank you for your time :)
I went to Transhealth :). Dr Curtis can be kinda off putting bcos he's so direct and has a no holds barred approach but Sharon, the counsellor was lovely :). I had the go ahead for T within 3 months (Sharron has a 3 week wait between counselling appointments).
You pass to me as an androgynous guy. Your body looks male to me and your chest looks flat. Plus your hairstyle really suits you :)
Quote from: Elis on October 18, 2016, 10:57:59 AM
I went to Transhealth :). Dr Curtis can be kinda off putting bcos he's so direct and has a no holds barred approach but Sharon, the counsellor was lovely :). I had the go ahead for T within 3 months (Sharron has a 3 week wait between counselling appointments).
You pass to me as an androgynous guy. Your body looks male to me and your chest looks flat. Plus your hairstyle really suits you :)
Thanks Elis - I appreciate your kind comments and the info about Transhealth. It's really helpful to hear from someone who has been through that particular route :)
I was hoping to get the go-ahead for T a bit sooner than 3 months, but realise it is probably a realistic timeframe. I've been to my GP though and she has agreed to prescribe it, following the advice of a specialist. I was hoping that this fact would reduce the amount of waiting time, as Dr Curtis wouldn't actually have to prescribe but just advise my GP? Probably wishful thinking...
I guess I'm just a bit unclear as to how things work in regards to private and NHS blending together. Did you have your GP involved at all or was it all done through Transhealth?
Quote from: HenryG on October 18, 2016, 08:50:34 AM
Hello everyone,
First post here - happy to have found a place to discuss transgender topics.
I'm Henry, 24, FTM, pre-T and pre-surgery. I live in the UK.
I came out to my partner 1 month ago and have my first appointment with Transhealth in London on the 21st Oct. I'm hoping to start T as soon as possible, as I have known I am male inside, for my entire life.
I don't think I pass right now but would appreciate some opinions nonetheless.
My dysphoria centers a lot around my body shape (chest, hips, bum, thighs), which I think makes me 'not pass'.
I'm wearing a gc2b binder in the photos, which flattens me out really well (34DD chest normally...awful) but I can't currently wear it for that long without feeling constricted and panicky. I'm working on it though.
I haven't really been out in public properly as male (due to social anxiety issues), so I'm not sure whether I do pass?
I just can't wait to see my body/face changing on testosterone - to be able to see the true me more clearly will be fantastic.
http://imgur.com/a/AS4Bq - please excuse the somewhat messy bedroom behind me.
http://imgur.com/a/Xlns5
Thank you for your time :)
You pass as androgynous in the first picture but not the second. I do like your hair and I think you have a lot of passing potential.
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Quote from: HenryG on October 18, 2016, 11:09:04 AM
Thanks Elis - I appreciate your kind comments and the info about Transhealth. It's really helpful to hear from someone who has been through that particular route :)
I was hoping to get the go-ahead for T a bit sooner than 3 months, but realise it is probably a realistic timeframe. I've been to my GP though and she has agreed to prescribe it, following the advice of a specialist. I was hoping that this fact would reduce the amount of waiting time, as Dr Curtis wouldn't actually have to prescribe but just advise my GP? Probably wishful thinking...
I guess I'm just a bit unclear as to how things work in regards to private and NHS blending together. Did you have your GP involved at all or was it all done through Transhealth?
During the initial consultation Dr curtis will recommend as many therapy appointments that he thinks you need. So it'll vary. I told Dr Curtis that I wanted to go the NHS route for my T prescription. Once my final therapy appointment was done with the counsellor posted me the letter saying I'm most likely trans and have GD; as well as what my blood needs to be tested for. i took the letter to my GP. I was her first trans patient so had to wait a week for her to consult somebody but she couldn't deny me T because I had a medical need plus 'prove'. Once my blood test came back fine she gave me my prescription and that was that.
I also had to have a blood test done at the 3 month and 9 month mark; which I have done with the NHS. Plus follow up consultations with Dr curtis to review my blood test results and too see how I'm doing.
Btw; Dr curtis doesn't prescribe Sustanon anymore just testogel and nebido. I use testogel and I think it's the best HRT option. But each to their own :)
You're close, Henry, but not quite there. I agree the first picture is more flattering -- you've got a straight build and a wide stance. Up close, it's obvious you have no facial hair, a feminine hairline, and not masculine bony features. Thankfully, all these things can change with T.
Cheers Elis for the info, really appreciate it, and thanks everyone for their comments :)
Quote from: HenryG on October 18, 2016, 08:50:34 AM
Hello everyone,
First post here - happy to have found a place to discuss transgender topics.
I'm Henry, 24, FTM, pre-T and pre-surgery. I live in the UK.
I came out to my partner 1 month ago and have my first appointment with Transhealth in London on the 21st Oct. I'm hoping to start T as soon as possible, as I have known I am male inside, for my entire life.
I don't think I pass right now but would appreciate some opinions nonetheless.
My dysphoria centers a lot around my body shape (chest, hips, bum, thighs), which I think makes me 'not pass'.
I'm wearing a gc2b binder in the photos, which flattens me out really well (34DD chest normally...awful) but I can't currently wear it for that long without feeling constricted and panicky. I'm working on it though.
I haven't really been out in public properly as male (due to social anxiety issues), so I'm not sure whether I do pass?
I just can't wait to see my body/face changing on testosterone - to be able to see the true me more clearly will be fantastic.
http://imgur.com/a/AS4Bq - please excuse the somewhat messy bedroom behind me.
http://imgur.com/a/Xlns5
Thank you for your time :)
Hey Henry, I always try and be honest with people and while you have a TON of potential with a straight, masculine body shape and a good haircut, at this pre T point you don't pass to me yet. Your face simply looks to feminine. Thats something that will change drastically with T, though, so it shouldn't be too long before you are passing completely! Your body shape is definitely passable.
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This sort of thing is what I'm going to wear at work after Christmas when I transition there - think chinos not jeans, but otherwise the same. Do I pass as a man? FYI I work in a school, with kids aged 11-16.
Quote from: HenryG on October 18, 2016, 08:50:34 AM
Hello everyone,
First post here - happy to have found a place to discuss transgender topics.
I'm Henry, 24, FTM, pre-T and pre-surgery. I live in the UK.
I came out to my partner 1 month ago and have my first appointment with Transhealth in London on the 21st Oct. I'm hoping to start T as soon as possible, as I have known I am male inside, for my entire life.
I don't think I pass right now but would appreciate some opinions nonetheless.
My dysphoria centers a lot around my body shape (chest, hips, bum, thighs), which I think makes me 'not pass'.
I'm wearing a gc2b binder in the photos, which flattens me out really well (34DD chest normally...awful) but I can't currently wear it for that long without feeling constricted and panicky. I'm working on it though.
I haven't really been out in public properly as male (due to social anxiety issues), so I'm not sure whether I do pass?
I just can't wait to see my body/face changing on testosterone - to be able to see the true me more clearly will be fantastic.
http://imgur.com/a/AS4Bq - please excuse the somewhat messy bedroom behind me.
http://imgur.com/a/Xlns5
Thank you for your time :)
Hi there! UK member here too, with similar chest issues to yourself (38E last time I bought a bra). Think I agree with these guys that the first pic is 'better', but you definitely got potential. Binder is working well too, mate.
Quote from: uk_older_ftm on October 22, 2016, 01:08:23 PM
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This sort of thing is what I'm going to wear at work after Christmas when I transition there - think chinos not jeans, but otherwise the same. Do I pass as a man? FYI I work in a school, with kids aged 11-16.
The jumper accentuates your broad shoulders which work well; but I think a smaller size would work best for you to look more male. Alart from that you're looking good :)
Quote from: uk_older_ftm on October 22, 2016, 01:08:23 PMThis sort of thing is what I'm going to wear at work after Christmas when I transition there - think chinos not jeans, but otherwise the same. Do I pass as a man? FYI I work in a school, with kids aged 11-16.
You've got a great square jaw, and the big glasses really help to create the impression of brow bossing. Your hairline isn't too round, either -- is it possible to pluck it back a bit up by the temples, maybe create some corners, the beginning of male pattern recession? No beard shadow is a bit of an issue; if it's possible to build up a tan in a couple of months, it might help to make your skin at least a bit leathery. Not sure if the lower lip piercing helps, but that might be a generational thing on my part.
I agree with Elis about your clothes, though. First, the button-down shirt is too wide around your neck, which makes it look small and I don't think you want that. Thankfully, you can get shirts at men's stores (do you have a Men's Wearhouse in the UK?) that have a wide variety of tailored sizes -- you should be able to find something more fitted around the neck that's still loose enough to work around your torso. A tie would also help. Actually, a tie might help the whole collar issue by itself.
I'm not so sure about the royal blue color of the jumper -- it kind of sticks out. Black and charcoal, navy and slate blue, plum, hunter and olive green, brown and tan and khaki are more masculine staples.
Thanks for the comments. I was a little unsure of the size of the jumper, my issue is trying to disguise large breasts at the minute :/ as for the colour, it's not that bright in real life lol, and the other two I have are grey and olive green. The collar is integrated into the jumper (not a separate item of clothing), so unfortunately I can't change its size or add a tie...Hopefully once I start T I can build up my neck some more anyway!
I'm not sure about the piercing either...I don't wear it for work as I'm not allowed, but I am wondering if it's time to let it heal up completely. I can never decide if it's a masculine position or not (had it done many moons ago before I accepted I am trans).
I don't know if this is just my opinion but I think men tend to wear more visible piercing jewelry than just little studs. I have my lower lip pierced, too and I currently wear a stud with this sort of end (http://www.crazy-factory.com/product_images/BT/BT6_L-L%C3%A4vistyskorut-Pallot-ja-koristeet-Ruuvi-koriste.JPG?dt=1449562029). (I also have my nose and brow pierced.)
Then again, one of my vocational school teachers - who was very supportive and all - was very dead set on his opinion that men don't have facial piercings. I don't really think piercings have ever stopped me from passing, it's always been my voice.
Quote from: uk_older_ftm on October 22, 2016, 03:37:44 PMThanks for the comments. I was a little unsure of the size of the jumper, my issue is trying to disguise large breasts at the minute :/ as for the colour, it's not that bright in real life lol, and the other two I have are grey and olive green. The collar is integrated into the jumper (not a separate item of clothing), so unfortunately I can't change its size or add a tie...Hopefully once I start T I can build up my neck some more anyway!
I see!
Well, the look is in the right direction. Perhaps consider getting separate shirts and jumpers? Then you could do the ties, and have a better fit -- and the extra layer should help cover things up a bit better, too, as well as providing more bulk for your shoulders.
(Sorry, just suggested you go shopping for more clothes. Transition is a bitca.)
QuoteI'm not sure about the piercing either...I don't wear it for work as I'm not allowed, but I am wondering if it's time to let it heal up completely. I can never decide if it's a masculine position or not (had it done many moons ago before I accepted I am trans).
I agree with Tossu, the stud itself is too delicate. Of course, if you're lucky with facial hair, you'll eventually get a soul patch and the question could become moot.
Quote from: uk_older_ftm on October 22, 2016, 01:08:23 PM
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This sort of thing is what I'm going to wear at work after Christmas when I transition there - think chinos not jeans, but otherwise the same. Do I pass as a man? FYI I work in a school, with kids aged 11-16.
I think you pass very well. Nothing about your appearance stands out as female to me.
I'm also very large chested, so I understand having to wear larger sizes to try to disguise it, even with binding. It's difficult to find clothes that are baggy enough to hide a large chest, yet small enough that they don't make you look unprofessional.
I noticed you said that you don't wear your piercing at work, but I wanted to let you know I've seen numerous guys with that piercing, so I don't think it keeps you from passing. Some of the time they wear a small spike in it instead of a stud, but I've also seen them wear one like yours.
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I feel I still look pretty feminine after being on T for roughly 7 and a half months.
I can't convince myself to cut my hair shorter, regardless of how well it would most likely affect my passing.
I haven't had it long in years and I want to be a long-haired metal looking dude. It's just taking forever to get from this point to a point where I can start parting it and not look like a total dork.
I'm about to start trying to grow my facial hair out (I've been shaving my face, I haven't trusted it to not grow extremely patchy or look ratty on me. I'm gonna wing it now, though), so I'm hoping that will help some.
Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else agreed with my face looking feminine, or if it's just my dysphoria trying to deceive me. It's been really getting me down lately.
Quote from: Nathanos on October 24, 2016, 01:53:00 AM
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I feel I still look pretty feminine after being on T for roughly 7 and a half months.
I can't convince myself to cut my hair shorter, regardless of how well it would most likely affect my passing.
I haven't had it long in years and I want to be a long-haired metal looking dude. It's just taking forever to get from this point to a point where I can start parting it and not look like a total dork.
I'm about to start trying to grow my facial hair out (I've been shaving my face, I haven't trusted it to not grow extremely patchy or look ratty on me. I'm gonna wing it now, though), so I'm hoping that will help some.
Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else agreed with my face looking feminine, or if it's just my dysphoria trying to deceive me. It's been really getting me down lately.
You pass to me. I started looking simply male around 7/8 months and even then I thought strangers who were calling me him/his/he were having a joke or it was a one off instance; but it kept happening. So like me definitely your dysphoria deceiving you.
I'm trying to grow out my hair from an undercut and your hair definitely looks better than mine ;). Your hairstyle suits you.
Quote from: Nathanos on October 24, 2016, 01:53:00 AM
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I feel I still look pretty feminine after being on T for roughly 7 and a half months.
I can't convince myself to cut my hair shorter, regardless of how well it would most likely affect my passing.
I haven't had it long in years and I want to be a long-haired metal looking dude. It's just taking forever to get from this point to a point where I can start parting it and not look like a total dork.
I'm about to start trying to grow my facial hair out (I've been shaving my face, I haven't trusted it to not grow extremely patchy or look ratty on me. I'm gonna wing it now, though), so I'm hoping that will help some.
Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else agreed with my face looking feminine, or if it's just my dysphoria trying to deceive me. It's been really getting me down lately.
You looks a bit feminine for me and shorter hair would make you pass better. I would recommend you a undercut. But if your voice is deep, perhaps that might help you being read as male.
Quote from: HenryG on October 18, 2016, 08:50:34 AM
Hello everyone,
First post here - happy to have found a place to discuss transgender topics.
I'm Henry, 24, FTM, pre-T and pre-surgery. I live in the UK.
I came out to my partner 1 month ago and have my first appointment with Transhealth in London on the 21st Oct. I'm hoping to start T as soon as possible, as I have known I am male inside, for my entire life.
I don't think I pass right now but would appreciate some opinions nonetheless.
My dysphoria centers a lot around my body shape (chest, hips, bum, thighs), which I think makes me 'not pass'.
I'm wearing a gc2b binder in the photos, which flattens me out really well (34DD chest normally...awful) but I can't currently wear it for that long without feeling constricted and panicky. I'm working on it though.
I haven't really been out in public properly as male (due to social anxiety issues), so I'm not sure whether I do pass?
I just can't wait to see my body/face changing on testosterone - to be able to see the true me more clearly will be fantastic.
http://imgur.com/a/AS4Bq - please excuse the somewhat messy bedroom behind me.
http://imgur.com/a/Xlns5
Thank you for your time :)
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Quote from: Nathanos on October 24, 2016, 01:53:00 AM
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I feel I still look pretty feminine after being on T for roughly 7 and a half months.
I can't convince myself to cut my hair shorter, regardless of how well it would most likely affect my passing.
I haven't had it long in years and I want to be a long-haired metal looking dude. It's just taking forever to get from this point to a point where I can start parting it and not look like a total dork.
I'm about to start trying to grow my facial hair out (I've been shaving my face, I haven't trusted it to not grow extremely patchy or look ratty on me. I'm gonna wing it now, though), so I'm hoping that will help some.
Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else agreed with my face looking feminine, or if it's just my dysphoria trying to deceive me. It's been really getting me down lately.
I don't feel that you're face is feminine, really. Like they have said before, probably cutting your hair shorter would help, but, as you want it long, maybe trying another hairstyle but not cutting it. But, anyway, I like your hair. (?
Anyway, I think that you pass fairly well. Be patient about your hair. xD
Weeell, I had my hair cut some weeks ago, and at the begining I didn't like it buut I fixed a thing and I started to like it a little bit. The thing is that I'm not quite sure if it helps me more than the one I had before (or, well, helped me, my hair grows stupidly fast, or that's how I feel it xD). So I want to know if it's a little better. (? Or was... I've been thinking to cut it shorter, buut I don't really like undercuts at all and I don't think it will really help, as I have a round face (maybe just that I'm a bit paranoid (?). I really don't want to look like a butch lesbian, as I'm getting an unexpected attention from girls in my school, a place where everybody thinks I'm a girl.
This is how I looked with my old haircut, that I think the new one is approaching to it by now. xD
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New one...
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And this is how I looked last saturday, in an international festival where I have no freaking idea how I passed at all. xD I never was misgendered. I felt so happy. xD I told my friends I wanted to "trick" people and make them think I was a boy (haven't told anyone yet), and even my friend called me "he" when talking to a policeman when we were about to enter to a concert. xD
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Funny thing is that smiling doesn't help me pass at all. xDD
Aaand I was thinking of a cut like this. Said "maaaybe".
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Or like this. But I'm not quite sure... My face is quite round. Fffs. Aaand I hate my forehead. That's why I feel so insecure about cutting my hair shorter.
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Codex Umbrae- You pass 100% to m; the new hairstyle is teally working for you. I don't see the need to change it unless you're really unhappy with it. IMO I wouldn't choose the hairstyle in the bottom pic. The hair looks 'feathered' which is a common trait in women's short hairstyles. Instead have a barber/stylist cut your hair using straight angled cuts. That'll make it look morr masculine.
Quote from: uk_older_ftm on October 22, 2016, 01:08:23 PM
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This sort of thing is what I'm going to wear at work after Christmas when I transition there - think chinos not jeans, but otherwise the same. Do I pass as a man? FYI I work in a school, with kids aged 11-16.
Yes you do ....
Your current haircut is awesome, Codex. I definitely suggest you keep it long to hide your face, you just look like a pudgy boy with cheek fat so the long hair will be very boyish on you
Quote from: Elis on October 27, 2016, 04:36:42 AM
Codex Umbrae- You pass 100% to m; the new hairstyle is teally working for you. I don't see the need to change it unless you're really unhappy with it. IMO I wouldn't choose the hairstyle in the bottom pic. The hair looks 'feathered' which is a common trait in women's short hairstyles. Instead have a barber/stylist cut your hair using straight angled cuts. That'll make it look morr masculine.
Thaank you. I'm not really unhappy, just that lately I'm getting dysphoric and depressed randomly and at that moments, I don't know exactly why, I tend to want a shorter hair. Although I know that, being pre-T and having a round face and all, a short hair wouldn't help me at all.
And yeaaaah didn't think about the second pic before. You're right. Thank you. And I'll try the barber thing when I can.
Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on October 27, 2016, 07:58:21 AM
Your current haircut is awesome, Codex. I definitely suggest you keep it long to hide your face, you just look like a pudgy boy with cheek fat so the long hair will be very boyish on you
Thaank you. I'll probably stick to it for a long time (while I get to start T, loong time I guess) if I don't get impulsive suddenly xD
And yeah, it isn't weird that people ask me to touch my cheeks. xD I'm almost used to it. (?
Anyway, thank you.
Hey everyone! I need to submit a pic where I'm hoping to pass reasonably well, or at least be androgynous rather than feminine. I'm not on T yet. Thoughts on which works better?
#1
http://imgur.com/a/XXjJ6
#2
http://imgur.com/a/25Wj3
You have some work to do. A shorter hairstyle might instantly help you though. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: Hughie on November 27, 2016, 12:29:16 PM
Hey everyone! I need to submit a pic where I'm hoping to pass reasonably well, or at least be androgynous rather than feminine. I'm not on T yet. Thoughts on which works better?
#1
http://imgur.com/a/XXjJ6
#2
http://imgur.com/a/25Wj3
Hmm, not even androgynous? I have a couple of others that aren't as professional (which is my first choice). They're images I've played around with for other stuff:
#3
http://imgur.com/a/aZZPs
#4
http://imgur.com/a/BmU46
Quote from: Hughie on November 27, 2016, 12:29:16 PM
Hey everyone! I need to submit a pic where I'm hoping to pass reasonably well, or at least be androgynous rather than feminine. I'm not on T yet. Thoughts on which works better?
#1
http://imgur.com/a/XXjJ6
#2
http://imgur.com/a/25Wj3
The first picture is a lot better but not quite masculine reading. You actually have a little bit of a Bob Dylan vibe going on, if you don't mind my saying.
The hair isn't the issue in my opinion as it's quite messy and I've seen many guys with similar hair. I'm assuming by the way you stated it that getting on T is something you ultimately plan on doing and... yeah, that's going to be the ultimate 'assistance'.
Currently, you're just on the brink of androgyny. I saw the other two images you posted and they're much more masculine in appearance, but I don't care to work with filtered images so the second one's out. The first one of the second batch is the most masculine one you posted. The original two seem to be more of an accurate representation of what you look like under normal circumstances, however, so I'm sticking with those.
I'm not trying to sound like your pre-T situation is currently hopeless, though, because you have a lot of good features to work with. Your eyes appear to be somewhat deeply set, your nose is masculine and your jaw is relatively wide from a front angle.
I went through the exact same thing pre-T. I did -everything- possible to pass and, at the time, I thought I looked really masculine. Looking back... I can finally objectively say that I didn't. It's the softness of the face from the E. Unless you're one of those extremely lucky (or unlucky, depending on your perspective) natal females with super sharp/angular features, your face tends to be fairly round and soft. Super short haircuts just accentuate that softness.
The point I'm ultimately trying to make is to stay strong through the waiting phase. You're doing what you can. It's going to work sometimes and other times it won't but try not to beat yourself senseless over it.
You just eventually get to the point pre-T where you can't do anything else (hair, clothing, mannerisms, etc. have all been altered). That period was probably the worst phase for me personally because it was during that time that I felt the most out of control of my situation.
Cheers for the Bob Dylan compliment, I'll take that. :) I do like the messy hair... needs a bit of a trim but nothing much, and not going super short.
I do want to go on T, but I've been in a predicament the last while and searching for work. It seems very promising that I have an offer (and with government), but now I'll have to wait till I'm through six months probation to do any kind of transition, just to be safe as far as I know. It's a union job, so that's good too.
I don't need the pic for the job... left to my own devices I'm all for the messy hair, toques, band shirts etc... but for work I need to be professional in my clothes. And for other arty stuff, somewhere in between, depending on the context.
So yeah, I definitely agree that the E is giving a softness to my features and that's a problem more than haircut. I've got to wait till summer for the T though, and hang in there till then. I was definitely more on the 'delicate' side of female (long hair, small frame) and that's a hurdle to overcome. I feel like I should have a before and after pic somewhere lol. So it's already a big change for where I started from. I've also been working out a lot too trying to build some muscle and lose excess weight, which has been happening steadily. Hopefully in a year from now I'll be further along on the androgyny/male side than I am right now.
Quote from: Hughie on November 27, 2016, 12:42:28 PM
Hmm, not even androgynous? I have a couple of others that aren't as professional (which is my first choice). They're images I've played around with for other stuff:
#3
http://imgur.com/a/aZZPs
#4
http://imgur.com/a/BmU46
Your face and hair still look rather feminine.
Hughie- you look definitely androgynous in the first pic; messy hair works best for you. And I'm totally getting the Bob Dylan vibe ;)
Awesome, I'll take androgynous for $100. ;)
My hair is nothing but a series of cowlicks and waves and curls, so it does a bit better with a little length like it has here. It already does what it wants, lol. A new look every day!
I see what the problem is in the pictures. If you have the least amount of smile, it pushes the cheeks up and makes your face appear feminine. With no smile you move toward androgynous. I recommend that MTFs smile whenever possible just to enhance the cheeks and make them appear more feminine.
That's a great observation, Dena. That explains why I usually prefer pictures of myself where I'm not smiling, but I didn't know why. :)
I second Dena's comment about the smile. That's what tipped the first two pics over towards femaleness for me. I think your hair is awesome, but then I've always liked guys with long hair.
Cheers! This is really explaining a lot about the lifelong mystery of why I never liked pics of me smiling in photos. Photos always made me uncomfortable, but ones where i smiled were the worst. Now it makes sense.
Another problem with #2 is the camera angle -- it's pointing down at your face, which makes your eyes bigger and your chin smaller (this effect is called foreshortening). The use of shadow in #1 is nicely obscuring, while the 3/4 angle in #3 makes your masculine nose more visible (a good thing for your purposes). Try a lower camera angle pointing slightly up at your 3/4 face, with shadow, and see how that works.
I like the big lapels sticking up in #1, very hipster.
Also, your lips might have too much color in these pics. Maybe try a daub of concealer? Or suck them in a bit, hardening your mouth, so they're not so prominent, perhaps while jutting out your chin a little bit when you do so, too. Obviously not a long-term strategy, but perfectly acceptable for a curated picture.
Cheers for all the photo tips and other tips - much needed. :)
Been a long time since I posted. Lately I've gained a lot of weight and my hair's grown shaggy. I hope I still pass to some small extent.
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Quote from: Wild-Eyed on December 05, 2016, 09:38:38 AM
Been a long time since I posted. Lately I've gained a lot of weight and my hair's grown shaggy. I hope I still pass to some small extent.
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You look androgynous; I think maybe if your hair was just slightly shorter you'd look more masculine. You don't look like you've gained any weight on your face, you have a good looking masculine jawline :)
8 months on T and I'm finally passing thanks to the facial hair (I haven't shaved in over a month). I'm pretty thrilled about it because now I can grow my hair out and hopefully not be misgendered.
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Quote from: Jonathan L on December 05, 2016, 06:49:03 PM
8 months on T and I'm finally passing thanks to the facial hair (I haven't shaved in over a month). I'm pretty thrilled about it because now I can grow my hair out and hopefully not be misgendered.
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That is a glorious beard for 8 months. I'm 7 months and barely have any on the sideburns.
Quote from: Jonathan L on December 05, 2016, 06:49:03 PM
8 months on T and I'm finally passing thanks to the facial hair (I haven't shaved in over a month). I'm pretty thrilled about it because now I can grow my hair out and hopefully not be misgendered.
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You look exactly like one of my CIS-male friends, and he's never been misgendered. Some men don't grow much more than what you have now so if it keeps it up you should be all set.
If it were in my power to trade with you I would. If I don't shave at least every other day I look like a lumberjack.
Good luck,
Selena
Quote from: Alexthecat on December 05, 2016, 10:21:05 PM
That is a glorious beard for 8 months. I'm 7 months and barely have any on the sideburns.
Thanks! I'm pretty shocked by how quickly it's grown, honestly. It's amazing how differently we all respond to testosterone.
Quote from: Selena on December 05, 2016, 10:31:57 PM
You look exactly like one of my CIS-male friends, and he's never been misgendered. Some men don't grow much more than what you have now so if it keeps it up you should be all set.
If it were in my power to trade with you I would. If I don't shave at least every other day I look like a lumberjack.
Good luck,
Selena
That's awesome to hear :) Yeah, it hasn't even been a year yet so I'm assuming there is more to come.
Quote from: Jonathan L on December 05, 2016, 06:49:03 PM
8 months on T and I'm finally passing thanks to the facial hair (I haven't shaved in over a month). I'm pretty thrilled about it because now I can grow my hair out and hopefully not be misgendered.
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You also look like you're developing a bit of a brow ridge. You're definitely responding well to T!
I'm watching mt nephews go through puberty. Their faces are getting longer. In the older one, that ridge is starting to develop, and his facial hair is starting to come in. It comes in slowly, and much like yours, though he's got light brown hair so it isn't as visible yet.
So funny. We have a second puberty.
Quote from: Elis on December 05, 2016, 10:11:12 AM
You look androgynous; I think maybe if your hair was just slightly shorter you'd look more masculine. You don't look like you've gained any weight on your face, you have a good looking masculine jawline :)
Thank you so much! I'm still afraid to go to a unisex barber's, as I feel I'd get directed to the women's salon and walk off depressed. Here's a picture from my new laptop with a better camera, which shows the chub on my face a bit better (ouch). Ignore the mess in my room.
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I think the weight gain has actually helped my shoulders broaden, but it really hasn't helped my face. My cheekbones are completely gone.
Incidentally: next GIC appointment in January!
Quote from: Sophia Sage on December 06, 2016, 09:09:24 AM
You also look like you're developing a bit of a brow ridge. You're definitely responding well to T!
I'm watching mt nephews go through puberty. Their faces are getting longer. In the older one, that ridge is starting to develop, and his facial hair is starting to come in. It comes in slowly, and much like yours, though he's got light brown hair so it isn't as visible yet.
So funny. We have a second puberty.
Cool! It's amazing all the subtle ways in which testosterone changes the face. I hadn't even thought about my brow ridge.
Quote from: Jonathan L on December 05, 2016, 06:49:03 PM
8 months on T and I'm finally passing thanks to the facial hair (I haven't shaved in over a month). I'm pretty thrilled about it because now I can grow my hair out and hopefully not be misgendered.
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That beard is awesome, looking good!
Do I look androgynous at least in these pics? Wearing glasses because I'm going blind (not really, but it's sure nice being able to see stuff and read, lol).
#1: http://imgur.com/a/FqHN7
#2: http://imgur.com/a/MBBSt
Quote from: Hughie on December 10, 2016, 01:22:02 PM
Do I look androgynous at least in these pics? Wearing glasses because I'm going blind (not really, but it's sure nice being able to see stuff and read, lol).
#1: http://imgur.com/a/FqHN7
#2: http://imgur.com/a/MBBSt
You look androgynous in the second photo. The angle of the first one highlights your feminine face shape and mouth.
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Quote from: arice on December 10, 2016, 01:24:39 PM
You look androgynous in the second photo. The angle of the first one highlights your feminine face shape and mouth.
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Cheers! :)
Thanks, Hughie!
I agree that the second pic is androgynous.
Hughie youre definitely getting there already, when you get on T youre gonna be hella manly
Jonathan You pretty much pass flawlessly, no worries mate. Also your hair looks cool
Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on December 12, 2016, 12:15:08 PM
Hughie youre definitely getting there already, when you get on T youre gonna be hella manly
Jonathan You pretty much pass flawlessly, no worries mate. Also your hair looks cool
Cheers! :)
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New picture, I think it looks okay lol, the top one was pre-haircut and the bottom is post haircut. I literally look like I'm 12 lol. Also the bottom one was taken in the boys toilets which I'm proud of XD
Quote from: Zeno on December 14, 2016, 03:40:03 PM
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New picture, I think it looks okay lol, the top one was pre-haircut and the bottom is post haircut. I literally look like I'm 12 lol. Also the bottom one was taken in the boys toilets which I'm proud of XD
Congrats on making it to the boys toilet. xD You look great, actually, you pass completely. I liked more how you look in the second one. How old are you, if I may ask? xD
Cheers!
Quote from: CodexUmbrae on December 16, 2016, 11:23:41 AM
Congrats on making it to the boys toilet. xD You look great, actually, you pass completely. I liked more how you look in the second one. How old are you, if I may ask? xD
Cheers!
Thank you c: And I'm 16
soo, im pre-T. and not...fully out yet.
idk how to post images here so i'll just post a link - http://imgur.com/a/oEOHW
Quote from: kayden22 on December 19, 2016, 04:11:11 PM
soo, im pre-T. and not...fully out yet.
idk how to post images here so i'll just post a link - http://imgur.com/a/oEOHW
You pass; hair and glasses looking good ;)
Do I pass at all?
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Quote from: Meerkat98 on December 19, 2016, 08:04:15 PM
Do I pass at all?
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Possibly as a very, very young boy--twelve or so--but the ear jewelry tips it to the female side for me. Specifically the upper piercing.
On a more positive note, your eyebrows are a good thickness and your nose is fairly masculine.
Quote from: Meerkat98 on December 19, 2016, 08:04:15 PM
Do I pass at all?
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No. But you have lots of potential. For me, your sweater and jewellery make you look quite feminine. I think that you would probably pass if you were wearing a button down collared shirt and no earrings.
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Quote from: arice on December 19, 2016, 09:00:42 PM
No. But you have lots of potential. For me, your sweater and jewellery make you look quite feminine. I think that you would probably pass if you were wearing a button down collared shirt and no earrings.
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Yeah. Only problem is I'm only 5'0 and 110 lbs so finding guys clothing that fits is near impossible for me.
Quote from: Meerkat98 on December 19, 2016, 09:07:41 PM
Yeah. Only problem is I'm only 5'0 and 110 lbs so finding guys clothing that fits is near impossible for me.
That would be tough. What about the boys department? I have seen boys clothing that is almost identical to the men's section, cheaper too.
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A lazy evening in and I decided to take a photo. Nothing spectacular ;D
Quote from: Meerkat98 on December 19, 2016, 08:04:15 PM
Do I pass at all?
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Sort of androgynous. Don't feel that you need to be more masculine in order to 'pass'. It's more important that you feel comfortable as yourself.
Btw; have you tried Asos. They sell clothes from multiple shops so it's easier to find stuff you kike and in smaller sizes.
Quote from: CharleyJ on December 19, 2016, 09:52:29 PM
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A lazy evening in and I decided to take a photo. Nothing spectacular ;D
Looking good :)
Quote from: Elis on December 20, 2016, 04:23:53 AM
Looking good :)
Thanks :) I probably could have a better photo taken but it'll do for now.
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A couple of older photos of one of my biological cis brother and I (pulling some stupid faces)
Not sure about passing in any of my pics, I'll post a more current one another day ;D
Quote from: CharleyJ on December 20, 2016, 07:37:43 AM
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A couple of older photos of one of my biological cis brother and I (pulling some stupid faces)
Not sure about passing in any of my pics, I'll post a more current one another day ;D
You definitely pass. You look very similar to your brother; I imagine you'll look like twins once on T.
Quote from: kayden22 on December 19, 2016, 04:11:11 PM
soo, im pre-T. and not...fully out yet.
idk how to post images here so i'll just post a link - http://imgur.com/a/oEOHW
Welcome to the site. Very handsome shot.
I also want to share some links with you. They are mostly welcome information and the rules that govern the site. If you have not had a chance to look through them, please take a moment to:
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Quote from: Meerkat98 on December 19, 2016, 08:04:15 PM
Do I pass at all?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.tinypic.com%2F5oba6d.jpg&hash=dcdbd4d75ebadc8a54173303734dcf04bcb9a181)
Welcome to the site.
Hope you find what you are looking for here.
I also want to share some links with you. They are mostly welcome information and the rules that govern the site. If you have not had a chance to look through them, please take a moment to:
Things that you should read
- Site Terms of Service and rules to live by (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,2.0.html)
- Standard Terms and Definitions (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,54369.0.html)
- Post Ranks (including when you can upload an avatar) (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,114.0.html.)
- Reputation rules (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,18960.0.html)
- News posting & quoting guidelines (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,174951.0.html)
- Photo, avatars, and signature images policy (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,59974.msg383866.html#msg383866)
Once again, welcome to Susan's. Look around, ask questions and join in.
With warmth,
Joanna
Quote from: Elis on December 20, 2016, 08:19:23 AM
You definitely pass. You look very similar to your brother; I imagine you'll look like twins once on T.
Thanks Elis, I look like both my brothers, I'm the youngest (not that young haha) but I'm pretty much a 50/50 physical mixture of the two.
Quote from: Meerkat98 on December 19, 2016, 08:04:15 PM
Do I pass at all?
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With unisex style clothing (like that sweater) and a few minor tweaks you could pass as either. With the earrings and the hair style in that picture you look slightly more feminine. Without the earrings and with your hair styled slightly different (a distinctive part and possibly combed off the forehead) you would look more masculine.
So last photo I'm posting for now haha mainly for the cute horse factor :laugh: this is me at work (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1146.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo531%2Fcharley8888%2FIMG_3560_zpsczqhtbk5.jpg&hash=3b89b346c154f43a2bbfb2eb7e95e2da7e2e370e)
I look super young generally, but was wondering if I passed in either of these two pics? Also, I'm not good at taking photos of myself, so excuse the angles and facial expressions! Cheers, Noah :)
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Quote from: Noahsark045 on December 21, 2016, 02:02:39 PM
I look super young generally, but was wondering if I passed in either of these two pics? Also, I'm not good at taking photos of myself, so excuse the angles and facial expressions! Cheers, Noah :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20161221%2Fa4fc65c32190d95e8cd726af02485b09.jpg&hash=9418c61a396155ca13c9dbcb39b571f986a5bfde)
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Definite pass; you look handsome as hell in the first pic ;)
I finally (begrudgingly) decided to make the cut to my hair in hopes it'd help me pass better. I had my hair shoulder length previously, and it was provoking anger from complete strangers when I used the men's bathroom in public. [emoji17]
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20161223%2Fed96ff8d6415a8e0e229ba5fb86a94d9.jpg&hash=bca6e85ba4fcd2dbf2c07163b00d113ea29217e7)
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Thoughts?
Quote from: Elis on December 21, 2016, 02:13:31 PM
Definite pass; you look handsome as hell in the first pic ;)
Agreed. You definitely pass in both. You are a handsome young man.
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Quote from: CharleyJ on December 21, 2016, 02:04:28 AM
So last photo I'm posting for now haha mainly for the cute horse factor [emoji23] this is me at work (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1146.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo531%2Fcharley8888%2FIMG_3560_zpsczqhtbk5.jpg&hash=3b89b346c154f43a2bbfb2eb7e95e2da7e2e370e)
Nice! :)
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Quote from: Nathanos on December 23, 2016, 11:11:32 AM
I finally (begrudgingly) decided to make the cut to my hair in hopes it'd help me pass better. I had my hair shoulder length previously, and it was provoking anger from complete strangers when I used the men's bathroom in public. [emoji17]
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20161223%2Fed96ff8d6415a8e0e229ba5fb86a94d9.jpg&hash=bca6e85ba4fcd2dbf2c07163b00d113ea29217e7)
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Thoughts?
You pass as androgynous to masculine with the new haircut.
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You still look a lot like a girl. However, those tops, nose ring, lip ring, and necklace do not help your cause. They are too feminine.
Quote from: Nathanos on December 23, 2016, 11:11:32 AM
I finally (begrudgingly) decided to make the cut to my hair in hopes it'd help me pass better. I had my hair shoulder length previously, and it was provoking anger from complete strangers when I used the men's bathroom in public. [emoji17]
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20161223%2Fed96ff8d6415a8e0e229ba5fb86a94d9.jpg&hash=bca6e85ba4fcd2dbf2c07163b00d113ea29217e7)
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Thoughts?
Quote from: Nathanos on December 23, 2016, 11:11:32 AM
I finally (begrudgingly) decided to make the cut to my hair in hopes it'd help me pass better. I had my hair shoulder length previously, and it was provoking anger from complete strangers when I used the men's bathroom in public. [emoji17]
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20161223%2Fed96ff8d6415a8e0e229ba5fb86a94d9.jpg&hash=bca6e85ba4fcd2dbf2c07163b00d113ea29217e7)
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Thoughts?
You look like any other cute guy too me and I love that shirt you're wearing.
Quote from: Nathanos on December 23, 2016, 11:11:32 AM
I finally (begrudgingly) decided to make the cut to my hair in hopes it'd help me pass better. I had my hair shoulder length previously, and it was provoking anger from complete strangers when I used the men's bathroom in public. [emoji17]
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20161223%2Fed96ff8d6415a8e0e229ba5fb86a94d9.jpg&hash=bca6e85ba4fcd2dbf2c07163b00d113ea29217e7)
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Thoughts?
You look both male and stylin' to me. :)
Quote from: mac1 on December 23, 2016, 02:01:53 PM
You still look a lot like a girl. However, those tops, nose ring, lip ring, and necklace do not help your cause. They are too feminine.
The top isn't my usual attire, my girlfriend chose it for me at H&M in the men's section. Most of my shirts are usually band merch. I don't have much of a fashion sense. I appreciate your honesty, though. Do you have any suggestions for what would suit me better?
I only recently started wearing that necklace, I just really like it because it's Thor's hammer. The piercings.. I don't see myself parting with, but I appreciate your input on that as well. 😊
Quote from: Elis on December 23, 2016, 03:35:20 PM
You look like any other cute guy too me and I love that shirt you're wearing.
Thank you! 😊 It has one of my favourite animals on it, raccoons are cute.
Quote from: Hughie on December 23, 2016, 04:56:22 PM
You look both male and stylin' to me. :)
Thank you, that means a lot to me. 😁 My dysphoria has been on high alert lately.
Quote from: arice on December 23, 2016, 11:23:01 AM
You pass as androgynous to masculine with the new haircut.
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Thank you. I might go shorter next time. I just didn't want to go too short initially or else I think I would've shocked myself a bit. My hair was to my shoulders when I got it cut. 😭 I just wanna look like Cole Sprouse tbh, I love his hair so much.
Sooo since my last post, I've changed A LOT, and I was wondering what you think of my new look?
http://i.imgur.com/g0SXu7q.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Mgietd3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/x2hGl3K.jpg
I'm going for a more androgynous look, so do you think it's working?
Quote from: GammaHunter on December 23, 2016, 05:58:53 PM
Sooo since my last post, I've changed A LOT, and I was wondering what you think of my new look?
http://i.imgur.com/g0SXu7q.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Mgietd3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/x2hGl3K.jpg
I'm going for a more androgynous look, so do you think it's working?
Definitely; you look 100% male
Quote from: GammaHunter on December 23, 2016, 05:58:53 PM
Sooo since my last post, I've changed A LOT, and I was wondering what you think of my new look?
http://i.imgur.com/g0SXu7q.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Mgietd3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/x2hGl3K.jpg
I'm going for a more androgynous look, so do you think it's working?
You're essentially the definition of androgyny to me. I struggle to see a male or a female when I look at your pictures; I find my eyes darting to the typical 'telltale' characteristics to no avail. On one hand, you look like a lot of the skinny goth/skater guys I went to HS with and yet, on the other hand, you also look like a couple of the goth/emo/whatever the **** the kids are saying these days girls.
The first image is the most feminine, the second is the most masculine and the third is a blend.
Quote from: mac1 on December 23, 2016, 02:01:53 PM
You still look a lot like a girl. However, those tops, nose ring, lip ring, and necklace do not help your cause. They are too feminine.
I disagree. I think those tend to be more masculine piercings. However, and maybe it's just the lighting, but it looks like you're wearing some makeup in those pictures? If so, I wouldn't say it's exactly helping your cause.
Quote from: Noahsark045 on December 21, 2016, 02:02:39 PM
I look super young generally, but was wondering if I passed in either of these two pics? Also, I'm not good at taking photos of myself, so excuse the angles and facial expressions! Cheers, Noah :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20161221%2Fa4fc65c32190d95e8cd726af02485b09.jpg&hash=9418c61a396155ca13c9dbcb39b571f986a5bfde)
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You pass with flying colors in the first picture. In the second one, I would say you still pass, but lean a little more towards androgynous and look younger.
I know I probably post on this thread way too much, but I'm hoping by now that perhaps I'm passing better. I have a job interview today and I am very scared of being "clocked", so some honest opinions would be appreciated. I worry about my face looking too round and "girly", as it's what I've been told for so much of my life now.
The last picture will be how I look at my interview later.. minus the storm trooper tie, I'm definitely switching that out. 😅
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Quote from: Nathanos on January 20, 2017, 07:05:10 AM
I know I probably post on this thread way too much, but I'm hoping by now that perhaps I'm passing better. I have a job interview today and I am very scared of being "clocked", so some honest opinions would be appreciated. I worry about my face looking too round and "girly", as it's what I've been told for so much of my life now.
The last picture will be how I look at my interview later.. minus the storm trooper tie, I'm definitely switching that out. 😅
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170120/e1299f816ae486cee7c0fbfae945ab67.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170120/eaeb27180bbf84fe052ab4c02570e916.jpg)
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You definitely pass in the first two pictures. In the last picture, I'd say you look androgynous to masculine so passing will have more to do with behaviour and voice. Your hair looks more feminine in the last picture than in the others. I don't see a lot of guys with bangs like that here. That could be different where you are.
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Quote from: Nathanos on January 20, 2017, 07:05:10 AM
I know I probably post on this thread way too much, but I'm hoping by now that perhaps I'm passing better. I have a job interview today and I am very scared of being "clocked", so some honest opinions would be appreciated. I worry about my face looking too round and "girly", as it's what I've been told for so much of my life now.
The last picture will be how I look at my interview later.. minus the storm trooper tie, I'm definitely switching that out. 😅
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170120/e1299f816ae486cee7c0fbfae945ab67.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170120/eaeb27180bbf84fe052ab4c02570e916.jpg)
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You look like a feminine guy to me and definitely not female. I agree that behaviour and voice will make a huge difference passing wise for your interview.
I don't get why you're switching out the stormtrooper tie; it looks awesome :D
You look like a young attractive man to me Nathanos!, nothing girly at all. I love the tie and the Slipknot Tshirt, but I can see why maybe not the tie for a job interview lol. Good luck!
You pass just fine Lionheart! I looove the shirt, bow tie and waistcoat look! I agree you look younger in the second pic, but still pass to me!
Quote from: Nathanos on January 20, 2017, 07:05:10 AM
I know I probably post on this thread way too much, but I'm hoping by now that perhaps I'm passing better. I have a job interview today and I am very scared of being "clocked", so some honest opinions would be appreciated. I worry about my face looking too round and "girly", as it's what I've been told for so much of my life now.
The last picture will be how I look at my interview later.. minus the storm trooper tie, I'm definitely switching that out. 😅
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To me, you pass, really fine. Congrats! Great style, btw. The tie is cool but yeah, maybe not the best option for a job interview. I hope that interview went well. c:
And I wouldn't say that you have a round and "girly" face, actually.
Interesting experience at work today. I work in retail and have quite a few regular customers. i had a new customer at the desk that i was helping out and as he left the regular behind him in line stepped up laughing. "Damn, he called you Sir. Must be the hair" He stood there shaking his head as I chuckled and replied "Not the first time, and it certinly won't be the last" I don't think I am even close to passing but I guess to ppl that don't know me ...
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Facial structure and the shorter hair make it near impossible to see anything feminine in your appearance. I don't know about the voice but I would have to gender you male as well.
LOL. Is it inappropriate to say I love you Dena. The voice was low to begin with and I consistently get Sir on the phone from people who have not heard the increased drop daily. Thank you, I needed to hear that
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6 months on t
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Quote from: patrick1967 on January 21, 2017, 08:51:54 PM
I don't think I am even close to passing but I guess to ppl that don't know me ...
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From the picture you pass as well as many CIS guys I know. If you aren't passing right now then it's something other than the way you look that's giving you away.
It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.
André Gide, Autumn Leaves
Quote from: lil_red on January 28, 2017, 09:45:21 AM
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You definitely look like you're getting there; you look more male than female. I was the same at 6 months and didn't look totally manly until 8 months on T.
Quote from: Elis on January 28, 2017, 12:32:59 PM
You definitely look like you're getting there; you look more male than female. I was the same at 6 months and didn't look totally manly until 8 months on T.
Thanks Elis. I'm definately loving the way my body is starting to look. I can't walk by a mirror anymore without stopping to admire the changes, lol.
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Quote from: Nathanos on January 20, 2017, 07:05:10 AM
I know I probably post on this thread way too much, but I'm hoping by now that perhaps I'm passing better. I have a job interview today and I am very scared of being "clocked", so some honest opinions would be appreciated. I worry about my face looking too round and "girly", as it's what I've been told for so much of my life now.
The last picture will be how I look at my interview later.. minus the storm trooper tie, I'm definitely switching that out. 😅
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Dude! You look awesome. I'm a fan of tats (8 myself) and piercings (7).
Seeing your pics, and all the guys here remind me of when I was in Montreal recovery house following my surgery. There were three guys - all in their early 20s. I was like "what are these guys doing here?" They all had that handsome scruff, cool hair...peed me off a bit lol how awesome they were.
Super jealous!
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Quote from: Nathanos on January 20, 2017, 07:05:10 AM
I know I probably post on this thread way too much, but I'm hoping by now that perhaps I'm passing better. I have a job interview today and I am very scared of being "clocked", so some honest opinions would be appreciated. I worry about my face looking too round and "girly", as it's what I've been told for so much of my life now.
The last picture will be how I look at my interview later.. minus the storm trooper tie, I'm definitely switching that out. 😅
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I think you look like a teenage boy. Are you on T yet?
Quote from: alienbodybuilder on January 29, 2017, 08:59:42 PM
I think you look like a teenage boy. Are you on T yet?
Believe it or not, yes. I've been on it since March 9, 2016. I made this comparison photo just last night.
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Those pictures were taken a year apart. January of 2016, when I was pre-T, to just the other day of this month.
I'm built relatively small, so I don't feel that helps my case. I think I may be better off once I start growing some facial hair, but it's still too patchy for my tastes currently and I have no interesting in rocking a chin strap. 🙄
I'm hoping maybe I can start bulking up and that'll help me out. One can only hope.
With those two side by ides I would be hard presssed to pinpoint the differences over the past 10 months for you but I would gender you female in the first and male in the second. Yes you look young, but no younger in my old eyes than you did in the first one
Quote from: Nathanos on January 29, 2017, 09:05:09 PM
Believe it or not, yes. I've been on it since March 9, 2016. I made this comparison photo just last night.
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Those pictures were taken a year apart. January of 2016, when I was pre-T, to just the other day of this month.
I'm built relatively small, so I don't feel that helps my case. I think I may be better off once I start growing some facial hair, but it's still too patchy for my tastes currently and I have no interesting in rocking a chin strap. 🙄
I'm hoping maybe I can start bulking up and that'll help me out. One can only hope.
Like with me the changed from T look very subtle. I can see that your cheeks look a bit less round and your jaw looks more angular.
Well, hi everybody. I'm about to end high-school by now and I'm going to take an entrance exam to an university next friday and, since I have to go with my forehead uncovered, I have a great issue.
This is how I looked like a month ago:
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But I cut my hair, as it was starting to go too long to keep in place. And I look like this now:
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I don't like it that much, but most of the times it is ok. And I don't know if I actually pass that well, 'cause almost everybody that I meet call me sir, or people are just that stupid. xD As I don't feel like I act that masculine, and I'm roughly 5" tall... xD Well, whatever.
But... I really don't know how to accommodate my hair so that my forehead is uncovered. I tried this:
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Aaand I don't like it. I hate my forehead, for me it is just too big. Buut anyway... Do I pass at all? Or any suggestions?
Quote from: CodexUmbrae on February 10, 2017, 08:17:10 PM
Well, hi everybody. I'm about to end high-school by now and I'm going to take an entrance exam to an university next friday and, since I have to go with my forehead uncovered, I have a great issue.
This is how I looked like a month ago:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170211/278010be47de050ed17c54812bdda01b.jpg)
But I cut my hair, as it was starting to go too long to keep in place. And I look like this now:
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I don't like it that much, but most of the times it is ok. And I don't know if I actually pass that well, 'cause almost everybody that I meet call me sir, or people are just that stupid. xD As I don't feel like I act that masculine, and I'm roughly 5" tall... xD Well, whatever.
But... I really don't know how to accommodate my hair so that my forehead is uncovered. I tried this:
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Aaand I don't like it. I hate my forehead, for me it is just too big. Buut anyway... Do I pass at all? Or any suggestions?
you pass as a 12 year old boy, but on the bright side atleast you pass.
You could look like a very young boy.
Like the others said, you pass as a very young boy but your appearance is definitely masculine. How well you pass as a man your own age will depend on other factors like wardrobe, voice and mannerisms.
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Quote from: CodexUmbrae on February 10, 2017, 08:17:10 PM
Well, hi everybody. I'm about to end high-school by now and I'm going to take an entrance exam to an university next friday and, since I have to go with my forehead uncovered, I have a great issue.
This is how I looked like a month ago:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170211/278010be47de050ed17c54812bdda01b.jpg)
But I cut my hair, as it was starting to go too long to keep in place. And I look like this now:
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I don't like it that much, but most of the times it is ok. And I don't know if I actually pass that well, 'cause almost everybody that I meet call me sir, or people are just that stupid. xD As I don't feel like I act that masculine, and I'm roughly 5" tall... xD Well, whatever.
But... I really don't know how to accommodate my hair so that my forehead is uncovered. I tried this:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170211/b30e8990bc8fbbb69b82c72bb0181b8a.jpg)
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Aaand I don't like it. I hate my forehead, for me it is just too big. Buut anyway... Do I pass at all? Or any suggestions?
Every time I see you I just want to hug you
That said you pass well enough youre going to be so manly someday...well...a man anyways :P
I think that you will pass.
Quote from: CodexUmbrae on February 10, 2017, 08:17:10 PM
Well, hi everybody. I'm about to end high-school by now and I'm going to take an entrance exam to an university next friday and, since I have to go with my forehead uncovered, I have a great issue.
But I cut my hair, as it was starting to go too long to keep in place. And I look like this now:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170211/608460b24924b2805bc5e2eda965f8e9.jpg)
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I don't like it that much, but most of the times it is ok. And I don't know if I actually pass that well, 'cause almost everybody that I meet call me sir, or people are just that stupid. xD As I don't feel like I act that masculine, and I'm roughly 5" tall... xD Well, whatever.
Aaand I don't like it. I hate my forehead, for me it is just too big. Buut anyway... Do I pass at all? Or any suggestions?
Quote from: CharleyJ on December 20, 2016, 07:37:43 AM
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A couple of older photos of one of my biological cis brother and I (pulling some stupid faces)
Not sure about passing in any of my pics, I'll post a more current one another day ;D
You look like a good looking man and that look In the second photo makes you look tough!!!
Quote from: Jermaine on February 21, 2017, 10:32:53 AM
Been getting misgendered alot lately but im pre T so cant complain. What you guys think?
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My moms face lol
You look 100% male to me :)
Thank you all. c: I'm not that good as passing my age, but I always looked younger anyway so it's not a big deal. xD
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on February 10, 2017, 11:42:50 PM
you pass as a 12 year old boy, but on the bright side atleast you pass.
Quote from: arice on February 11, 2017, 06:53:03 AM
Like the others said, you pass as a very young boy but your appearance is definitely masculine. How well you pass as a man your own age will depend on other factors like wardrobe, voice and mannerisms.
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Quote from: MeTonie on February 10, 2017, 11:52:45 PM
You could look like a very young boy.
Aw, thanks. xD
Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on February 11, 2017, 10:05:11 AM
Every time I see you I just want to hug you
That said you pass well enough youre going to be so manly someday...well...a man anyways [emoji14]
Quote from: mac1 on February 12, 2017, 01:19:10 PM
I think that you will pass.
I haven't been mis-gendered in years, but this thread has gotten my curiosity. Have a go at it guys, here's my face.
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Hey everyone! I'm pre-T and everything, I'm being called sir like 99% of the times but to be honest I can't find much from physical aspect which would place me on that "male" side (pretty easy to be critical about yourself huh:P). I'm wondering guys what would you say, how well do I pass for you and what features are "making it" if so. Just honestly. I've added few regular selfies (don't have better quality photos) from different angles
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Thanks
didus, you look great in those pictures like a guy completely, nothing about you says you are not a 100% cis guy. For being pre-t you are doing great. keep it up.
Quote from: mm on March 10, 2017, 03:25:42 PM
didus, you look great in those pictures like a guy completely, nothing about you says you are not a 100% cis guy. For being pre-t you are doing great. keep it up.
Agree. You've got a very angular face as well which helps hugely for looking male.
Quote from: mm on March 10, 2017, 03:25:42 PM
didus, you look great in those pictures like a guy completely, nothing about you says you are not a 100% cis guy. For being pre-t you are doing great. keep it up.
Yeah, you look 100% male. You look more male than I did even before I started HRT.
Conform and be dull. —James Frank Dobie, The Voice of the Coyote
didus,
it's great that you pass 99% of the time! That's the level I'm at post-T. Anyway, this is my honest opinion, and please don't feel bothered by it: you look very androgynous, but the first involuntary impression of you is a butch woman. However, I can see that you pass as a man as well. Above the nose you look like a cis man. I assume that people who focus more on the eyes of the face will see you as a man immediately, and from my experience it's hard for a person to change their mind once they've made an initial judgement in this area of topic. You certainly have the genetics working in your favour though (as much as is possible when you're trans anyway...). Love!
So, I got a new haircut at the weekend, which I absolutely love, and these are two pics from today. What do you think? Also, what age would you say I was? Oh, I'm pre everything btw.
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Quote from: NickySkyAsh on March 13, 2017, 04:22:54 PM
So, I got a new haircut at the weekend, which I absolutely love, and these are two pics from today. What do you think? Also, what age would you say I was? Oh, I'm pre everything btw.
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The haircut and style really suits you and makes you look like any other guy. The only critique I have is that the wavyness of your hair looks sorta fem; so if you want to look more masculine maybe change it up a bit. But it definitely suits you :)
I'd say you look 15/16
Quote from: NickySkyAsh on March 13, 2017, 04:22:54 PM
So, I got a new haircut at the weekend, which I absolutely love, and these are two pics from today. What do you think? Also, what age would you say I was? Oh, I'm pre everything btw.
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I like the cut and you mostly pass (first picture for sure) as a fairly feminine or androgynous guy. You look 14-16 years old.
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Quote from: NickySkyAsh on March 13, 2017, 04:22:54 PM
So, I got a new haircut at the weekend, which I absolutely love, and these are two pics from today. What do you think? Also, what age would you say I was? Oh, I'm pre everything btw.
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You do look very boyish. If I were passing you on the street, I'd peg you as an 11-12 year old male. If I met you more formally and heard you were older, I'd peg you as a female. For me, it's sort of a toss up.
Quote from: Vincent J on March 03, 2017, 11:26:57 AM
I haven't been mis-gendered in years, but this thread has gotten my curiosity. Have a go at it guys, here's my face.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FseA8ZTQ.jpg&hash=cceee6f7d21b275695290c9d2bfd5b91ece62077)
Ohe hey I didnt see yours
You definitely pass no questions asked, I dont see a reason to doubt your maleness.
Didus, I can't believe you're pre-everything! 100% male, no doubts.
Nicky, you look like a guy to me. :)
Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on March 15, 2017, 07:40:37 AM
Ohe hey I didnt see yours
You definitely pass no questions asked, I dont see a reason to doubt your maleness.
everyone looked over it lol. I can see why though. Thank you. I just posted for fun.. but instantly felt bad for doing so after :/
Pre-everything, just got a haircut today in order to hopefully pass better. Do I pass? If you saw me, how old would you think I was?
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Quote from: maksim on March 18, 2017, 09:10:31 PM
Pre-everything, just got a haircut today in order to hopefully pass better. Do I pass? If you saw me, how old would you think I was?
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Your face passes and, to me, you look to be about fourteen or so.
Your eyebrows kick ***, though. Very masculine-shaped.
Quote from: maksim on March 18, 2017, 09:10:31 PM
Pre-everything, just got a haircut today in order to hopefully pass better. Do I pass? If you saw me, how old would you think I was?
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You definitely pass as a boy (12-16 depending on your height and other features I can't tell in the pictures).
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Quote from: maksim on March 18, 2017, 09:10:31 PM
Pre-everything, just got a haircut today in order to hopefully pass better. Do I pass? If you saw me, how old would you think I was?
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Your face passes very well, but I think the particular way your hair is styled in those pictures is a little more androgynous (the length is fine though). Also, I think as far as nose piercings go, hoops tend to be more masculine than studs. I think you look about 15 but the piercing would make me think older.
Thanks guys, I appreciate it!
And lionheart, thanks for the tips!
Got my binder!!! This is sooo much better than a sports bra...
I guess I'm not too worried about looking if I pass, its the voice that gives me away....
I am curious how old I pass for, I finally stopped getting carded before I started to socially transition lol.
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Quote from: CrziCricket on March 19, 2017, 12:25:56 PM
Got my binder!!! This is sooo much better than a sports bra...
I guess I'm not too worried about looking if I pass, its the voice that gives me away....
I am curious how old I pass for, I finally stopped getting carded before I started to socially transition lol.
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You look like a young adult to me, 18-21... not sure if that would get you carded where you live.
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Quote from: CrziCricket on March 19, 2017, 12:25:56 PM
Got my binder!!! This is sooo much better than a sports bra...
I guess I'm not too worried about looking if I pass, its the voice that gives me away....
I am curious how old I pass for, I finally stopped getting carded before I started to socially transition lol.
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To be honest the shape of your face and chin, as well as your voice, may give you away although the haircut leans towards androgynous. Other than that you seem to pass well
Quote from: CrziCricket on March 19, 2017, 12:25:56 PM
Got my binder!!! This is sooo much better than a sports bra...
I guess I'm not too worried about looking if I pass, its the voice that gives me away....
I am curious how old I pass for, I finally stopped getting carded before I started to socially transition lol.
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I'd say you'd pass for around 17-19 primarily for the thickness of your neck (which is a good thing--I think that's why a lot of pre-T FTMs fail to look older as most males don't have thin necks for very long after puberty hits).
The binder looks to be flattening you pretty well, too. Your overall 'passing' rate for me is 50/50 and I wouldn't immediately peg you as one or the other if I glanced in your direction.
Thanks guys. I think carding would depend on the cashier...
I eventually want shorter hair (I used to be a 6 on top in HS) but went more on the more masculine side of androgynous since I still use she/her pronouns and my birth name every where but therapy/group. Better to make it a little harder to draw a conclusion.
I am slightly concerned how well my binder will hide things once I lose weight, but this is a 6-12 mo process to get in shape so I have some time to worry about it.
Quote from: Stone Magnum on March 19, 2017, 01:14:10 PM
I'd say you'd pass for around 17-19 primarily for the thickness of your neck (which is a good thing--I think that's why a lot of pre-T FTMs fail to look older as most males don't have thin necks for very long after puberty hits).
The binder looks to be flattening you pretty well, too. Your overall 'passing' rate for me is 50/50 and I wouldn't immediately peg you as one or the other if I glanced in your direction.
Lol, I've never had a thin throat so that has always worked in my favor.
Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on March 19, 2017, 01:02:01 PM
To be honest the shape of your face and chin, as well as your voice, may give you away although the haircut leans towards androgynous. Other than that you seem to pass well
My voice is my Judas currently. I want to start voice training to deepen it for the time being but don't want to cause even more distress and change for my mister and family too fast.
I did get "sir-ed" the other day at the store so that was awesome!
Quote from: CrziCricket on March 19, 2017, 12:25:56 PM
Got my binder!!! This is sooo much better than a sports bra...
I guess I'm not too worried about looking if I pass, its the voice that gives me away....
I am curious how old I pass for, I finally stopped getting carded before I started to socially transition lol.
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I would say you look like 18-21, like other hace said. And I wouldn't think you were a girl if I saw you in the street, actually. Aand good luck with your voice. c:
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Quote from: didus on March 10, 2017, 02:13:13 PM
Hey everyone! I'm pre-T and everything, I'm being called sir like 99% of the times but to be honest I can't find much from physical aspect which would place me on that "male" side (pretty easy to be critical about yourself huh:P). I'm wondering guys what would you say, how well do I pass for you and what features are "making it" if so. Just honestly. I've added few regular selfies (don't have better quality photos) from different angles
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I see a lot of male characteristics. However, I may not be the best person to ask.
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I think that you could pass as either female or male with minor tweaks. I would like to be able to do the same.
Quote from: CrziCricket on March 19, 2017, 12:25:56 PM
Got my binder!!! This is sooo much better than a sports bra...
I guess I'm not too worried about looking if I pass, its the voice that gives me away....
I am curious how old I pass for, I finally stopped getting carded before I started to socially transition lol.
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Oh hey this thread is still around. If I get around to it I'll maybe look through the thread and offer advice.
I'm kind of curious how old I pass for though if anyone minds? I've been on Testosterone for 1 year 9 months. My height is roughly 5'10" if that helps at all. Cheers!
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Quote from: StirfriedKraut on March 22, 2017, 11:58:32 AM
Oh hey this thread is still around. If I get around to it I'll maybe look through the thread and offer advice.
I'm kind of curious how old I pass for though if anyone minds? I've been on Testosterone for 1 year 9 months. My height is roughly 5'10" if that helps at all. Cheers!
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I would guess mid 20s!
StirfriedKraut - I would guess +/- late 20's
Hello there. I passed very well until late last year, when I gained 40lbs (medication). I'm still trying to lose the weight, but it's getting to me that I don't pass much any longer. It makes me bitter. I'm genetically male, anyway, or at least male-leaning, so it gives me a five-year-old's style "life isn't fair!" feeling to barely pass at all.
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Apart from losing weight and getting a haircut (both long overdue!), what could I do?
Quote from: Terence on April 07, 2017, 11:34:10 PM
Hello there. I passed very well until late last year, when I gained 40lbs (medication). I'm still trying to lose the weight, but it's getting to me that I don't pass much any longer. It makes me bitter. I'm genetically male, anyway, or at least male-leaning, so it gives me a five-year-old's style "life isn't fair!" feeling to barely pass at all.
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Apart from losing weight and getting a haircut (both long overdue!), what could I do?
I'll get to the passing bit in a minute, but...
Holy ****, is that David Bowie, The Rolling Stones and T. Rex I see in the background? Dude, your taste in music kicks ***.
Okay. As far as the passing thing goes, it's hard to say because you pass pretty well in the face to me. This leads me to believe that the excess weight gain may have just plumped up unfortunate (IE: female) parts of your body. Beyond that... the hair, possibly? Not necessarily the style, but the dye. A lot of guys have issues with passing early on with dyed hair of any sort. If it's something you really dig, though, then screw it.
Sorry I don't really have more, but your musical predilections got me really stoked.
Quote from: Stone Magnum on April 08, 2017, 01:24:31 AM
I'll get to the passing bit in a minute, but...
Holy ****, is that David Bowie, The Rolling Stones and T. Rex I see in the background? Dude, your taste in music kicks ***.
Thank you! Yes, it is. And I'm wearing a Lou Reed T-shirt. Music's what keeps me going through dysphoric days. My walls are covered in records and music posters. The hope that I might be a musician someday, after getting all the medical stuff done so I could feel comfortable on stage, maybe even learn to sing, motivates me to drag myself out of bed every day.
QuoteOkay. As far as the passing thing goes, it's hard to say because you pass pretty well in the face to me. This leads me to believe that the excess weight gain may have just plumped up unfortunate (IE: female) parts of your body. Beyond that... the hair, possibly? Not necessarily the style, but the dye. A lot of guys have issues with passing early on with dyed hair of any sort. If it's something you really dig, though, then screw it.
Sorry I don't really have more, but your musical predilections got me really stoked.
I'll get a full-body photo later. I'm still in bed (7am here). I started bleaching my hair some time in 2016 and my friends liked it so I stuck with it. My old dark brown hair did make me look very pale. I might stick with it. I have considered that the dyed hair makes me look a bit like a lesbian, but I'll probably keep it and just wait for T.
And, thanks again re: the music. It's so good to meet someone with a similar musical taste.
If you dont mind me asking what do you mean you are genetically male?
As far as passing Id have to say your face isnt as angular, but your hair looks good, you could pass well assuming all other masculine traits match up (like body)
Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on April 09, 2017, 09:58:21 AM
If you dont mind me asking what do you mean you are genetically male?
Genetically XXY.
Quote from: StirfriedKraut on March 22, 2017, 11:58:32 AM
Oh hey this thread is still around. If I get around to it I'll maybe look through the thread and offer advice.
I'm kind of curious how old I pass for though if anyone minds? I've been on Testosterone for 1 year 9 months. My height is roughly 5'10" if that helps at all. Cheers!
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I was wondering if you guys think I would still pass without facial hair. I really want to shave because I think it looks bad, but at the same time I'm worried I won't pass if I do. What do you all think?
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Quote from: green27 on April 22, 2017, 01:14:28 PM
I was wondering if you guys think I would still pass without facial hair. I really want to shave because I think it looks bad, but at the same time I'm worried I won't pass if I do. What do you all think?
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Every now and then I shave and afterwards I realize it was a mistake no matter how bad my beard looked at the time.
Quote from: green27 on April 22, 2017, 01:14:28 PM
I was wondering if you guys think I would still pass without facial hair. I really want to shave because I think it looks bad, but at the same time I'm worried I won't pass if I do. What do you all think?
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I agree with FTMax. I'd leave it if I were you and honestly, it doesn't look bad.
Quote from: green27 on April 22, 2017, 01:14:28 PM
I was wondering if you guys think I would still pass without facial hair. I really want to shave because I think it looks bad, but at the same time I'm worried I won't pass if I do. What do you all think?
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Honestly, I think the beard looks great. I wish I could grow something like that :P
If you really do want to shave it though, I think you could definitely get away with it.
Quote from: green27 on April 22, 2017, 01:14:28 PM
I was wondering if you guys think I would still pass without facial hair. I really want to shave because I think it looks bad, but at the same time I'm worried I won't pass if I do. What do you all think?
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Seems to me your facial distribution is more male than female, there doesnt seem to be any fat on the upper cheek area like in women. So coupled with a deeper voice and the right presentation I doubt people wil misgender you.
If shaving is something you really want to do you should try it amd keep an open mind to how you look (it'll be different so dont let that part shock you into dismay), and if you really dont like it, it will grow back anyways
Just thought I'd dump my face here. Some of my family still registers me as female.. and maybe it is just because they grew up with me being female.. but it still gives me insecurities about myself.
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and green27, the facial hair looks good dude. Maybe just try to "trim it" if you feel it starts to look scraggly or something?
Vincent J - You look a bit androgynous to me but if I were in a position on the street where I had to make a guess, from this pic I'd say you were a dude. In other words, I could easily see you passing perfectly as a guy although some people might be uncertain. Only thing I could say that might help would be to cut the hair around the ear so it's not being covered, as well as having a straight, short sideburn vs the longer one - just a more "stereotypically masculine" cut around that area. I wouldn't say it's a big deal either way, but just thought I'd mention it. I do like your hair btw, it looks fantastic.
Vincent, I think you look quite passable. If I saw you on the street I would not not gender you as female at all. Very handsome.
Vincent J, I would take you as male. As Asa Spades said making those minor changes in your hair would help confirm it for most people for sure.
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I think you graduated from this thread :P
Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on May 20, 2017, 08:23:23 AM
I think you graduated from this thread [emoji14]
Hahaha, thanks!
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Stirfried, I would put your age at 26-28. Green and lilred, you dudes totally pass. Vincent, if I saw you in public I would think you were a very pretty boy. But a boy. Like someone said maybe butch up the hair a little. Maybe use some self tanner or something. You have skin like my gf. You would look more manly if it wasn't so white and perfect. Not trying to be rude. Just giving you some advice. When I can post pictures I will put mine up here so you guys can rate me.
Peace out
Lucas
Trans dude, well... I am 17 so umm.. technically I am still a boy anyway. No offense taken. You should post some pics too, definitely. Thanks for the feedback everyone.
Lil red - dude, you look great and definitely male.
Im assuming you are pre T Vincent. After you start T I think you are gonna be a kick as handsome dude. And yeah man, you're a guy no matter what. Wasn't implying otherwise. Yeah ill post a pic soon as Im allowed to.
Yeah. Won't be on it until I'm 18. Thank you. I would hope T will be nice and give me decent facials in a short time lol. Ahhh. A couple more posts and you should be able to I think.
I definitely think you look masculine vincent and about the age that you say you are. I have a skinny 20 year old guy friend you remind me of a bit. You look somewhat softer like Transdude said about the skin, but in terms of androgyny, I just see potential for you to be a sort of guy-liner new romantic dude, not anything that would make me think you werent a guy. I think you look pretty cool tbh if you can't tell. When you go on T I imagine you're gonna look really masculine especially since you have a really nice jawline
Be gentle. :'(
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Are you binding? If so, your chest passes really well.
Your haircut is hindering you a bit, in my opinion. Pre-T, I did the whole 'false sideburns by growing my hair out' bit (like the look in your second to last picture) and it ended up just making me look very butchy/lesbian-ish. It also adds extra bulk to your face which in turn makes it appear slightly more rounded/feminine.
There's a slight meatiness to your arms and a bit of a bulk to your upper body judging from the images, so those are both working in your favor. Your forearms look to be naturally larger, too, which definitely helps (how many natal women do you see with anything more than sticks for forearms?).
Your eyebrows look awesome (that may sound like a dumb thing to comment on, but eyebrows are an often overlooked important component to an overall masculine appearance) and you don't seem to have any features that immediately scream 'female', so I keep going back to the hair.
Up for trying something less drastic than a haircut? Try to either wet the sides down and press them closer to your head or use product right before a shower and do it. Instead of putting the top down to conceal your forehead, sort of sweep it off your face. Take a couple pictures and see if just the different shape doesn't change your appearance a lot.
You have a good base, man. I think T will do wonders for you (if you intend on starting it, of course).
Quote from: Stone Magnum on June 21, 2017, 04:46:49 PM
Are you binding? If so, your chest passes really well.
Your haircut is hindering you a bit, in my opinion. Pre-T, I did the whole 'false sideburns by growing my hair out' bit (like the look in your second to last picture) and it ended up just making me look very butchy/lesbian-ish. It also adds extra bulk to your face which in turn makes it appear slightly more rounded/feminine.
There's a slight meatiness to your arms and a bit of a bulk to your upper body judging from the images, so those are both working in your favor. Your forearms look to be naturally larger, too, which definitely helps (how many natal women do you see with anything more than sticks for forearms?).
Your eyebrows look awesome (that may sound like a dumb thing to comment on, but eyebrows are an often overlooked important component to an overall masculine appearance) and you don't seem to have any features that immediately scream 'female', so I keep going back to the hair.
Up for trying something less drastic than a haircut? Try to either wet the sides down and press them closer to your head or use product right before a shower and do it. Instead of putting the top down to conceal your forehead, sort of sweep it off your face. Take a couple pictures and see if just the different shape doesn't change your appearance a lot.
You have a good base, man. I think T will do wonders for you (if you intend on starting it, of course).
Sweeeeet! Thanks for all the feedback!!
The first few I didn't have a binder on, just a sports bra, but then I invested in a gc2b binder and I freaking love it!
I've always been athletically built and I've been working out just my chest, back, shoulders and arms a couple of times a week to kind of offset my hips, and I've been taking about 175MG of DHEA a day. I actually have a small waist and very large hips so that's my biggest issue when trying to pass.
As for the brows....They've been both a gift and a curse all of my life. So thank you :-*
And the hair...oh the hair! I'd actually looooove to go back to this old cut and color...Natural color but the undercut I kept pretty much the entirety of 19-21 years old. :D (It was black, it was blonde, it was brown, it was aqua...you name it)
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I'll hopefully be on T by the end of the year. So hear's hoping! -fingers crossed-
Quote from: transguymac on June 21, 2017, 04:56:01 PM
Sweeeeet! Thanks for all the feedback!!
The first few I didn't have a binder on, just a sports bra, but then I invested in a gc2b binder and I freaking love it!
I've always been athletically built and I've been working out just my chest, back, shoulders and arms a couple of times a week to kind of offset my hips, and I've been taking about 175MG of DHEA a day. I actually have a small waist and very large hips so that's my biggest issue when trying to pass.
As for the brows....They've been both a gift and a curse all of my life. So thank you :-*
And the hair...oh the hair! I'd actually looooove to go back to this old cut and color...Natural color but the undercut I kept pretty much the entirety of 19-21 years old. :D (It was black, it was blonde, it was brown, it was aqua...you name it)
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I'll hopefully be on T by the end of the year. So hear's hoping! -fingers crossed-
Dude... wow. That haircut looks super masculinizing on you. My fiancée leaned over and said (her exact words) "Whoa, that looks great on him. The other looks a little like a lesbian haircut, though."
Also, are you serious? Even with just the sports bra, it was working. Pre-top, I had sweater calves even with super tight sports bras, so that's awesome.
I can tell that you've been doing upper body work. Man, on T... it -explodes-. Seriously. My performance in the gym increased tenfold both in terms of stamina and raw strength. And your hips? I wouldn't worry too much about those.
I had the same issue as you with my hips and now they're almost completely unnoticeable 1 1/2 years in through fat loss and an intense upper body routine.
I'm excited for you.
Quote from: Stone Magnum on June 21, 2017, 05:06:25 PM
Dude... wow. That haircut looks super masculinizing on you. My fiancée leaned over and said (her exact words) "Whoa, that looks great on him. The other looks a little like a lesbian haircut, though."
Also, are you serious? Even with just the sports bra, it was working. Pre-top, I had sweater calves even with super tight sports bras, so that's awesome.
I can tell that you've been doing upper body work. Man, on T... it -explodes-. Seriously. My performance in the gym increased tenfold both in terms of stamina and raw strength. And your hips? I wouldn't worry too much about those.
I had the same issue as you with my hips and now they're almost completely unnoticeable 1 1/2 years in through fat loss and an intense upper body routine.
I'm excited for you.
Well tell her I said thank you!! ;D
That definitely makes the choice to get my hair like that a lot more justified....(though I change my hair so much no one expects any less of me, sooooo)
Thanks for all the advise. I'm glad to know that my hips will eventually become less obvious! Thanks again!
transguymac, you look amazing and that haircut looks great on you! Stylish and masculine. I also wear GC2B binders and I love them!
Will definitely post some pics of my own once I'm able to.
I agree. The cut in your avatar looks awesome on you. I think you pass. You look like a cute boy. You haven't even started testosterone yet? After you are on it a while you will be totally hot.
Julia
Quote from: Julia1996 on June 22, 2017, 09:16:48 PM
I agree. The cut in your avatar looks awesome on you. I think you pass. You look like a cute boy. You haven't even started testosterone yet? After you are on it a while you will be totally hot.
Julia
Quote from: seth.james on June 22, 2017, 09:05:45 PM
transguymac, you look amazing and that haircut looks great on you! Stylish and masculine. I also wear GC2B binders and I love them!
Will definitely post some pics of my own once I'm able to.
Thank you too! I'm hoping to get it back this weekend...And going back to my natural color I think will help with my dysphoria as well...I won't have to deal with roots, or mismatched eyebrows. I'll post some updated pics when it's done!
Just wanted to point out with the old haircut there's nothing wrong with it, technically. But I do agree with the shorter length you pass significantly better. I actually like the old style myself and its the type of hair I have, unfortunately when it comes to passing you do want to be conscientious of what makes you look butch instead of male,
...and then on T you can go having long hair if you wanted to :P
Okay. Pretty sure I don't pass at this point. Really want to get on T so I can stop feeling so dysphoric someday. In the right light, there actually are some masculine traits in my face, but other people still see a girl, unfortunately.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi21.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb277%2Frikku_abdul%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20170622_214712_zpsmsm7bcvy_edit_1498367619475-387x532_zpswcvgrfhg.jpg&hash=447da1c10da2710da59c6c758a4c14ccfb9d7708) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/rikku_abdul/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20170622_214712_zpsmsm7bcvy_edit_1498367619475-387x532_zpswcvgrfhg.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi21.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb277%2Frikku_abdul%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20170622_214642_zpspuuwxc1o_edit_1498368046359-430x488_zpsb0npgchb.jpg&hash=ca81c637c24e41004182d68fd3b85050773c6efa) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/rikku_abdul/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20170622_214642_zpspuuwxc1o_edit_1498368046359-430x488_zpsb0npgchb.jpg.html)
I think I look better without glasses, but I'm unfortunately blind without them, and the kind of issues I have can't be corrected with contacts. :(
Quote from: seth.james on June 25, 2017, 12:43:48 AM
Okay. Pretty sure I don't pass at this point. Really want to get on T so I can stop feeling so dysphoric someday. In the right light, there actually are some masculine traits in my face, but other people still see a girl, unfortunately.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi21.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb277%2Frikku_abdul%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20170622_214712_zpsmsm7bcvy_edit_1498367619475-387x532_zpswcvgrfhg.jpg&hash=447da1c10da2710da59c6c758a4c14ccfb9d7708) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/rikku_abdul/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20170622_214712_zpsmsm7bcvy_edit_1498367619475-387x532_zpswcvgrfhg.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi21.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb277%2Frikku_abdul%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20170622_214642_zpspuuwxc1o_edit_1498368046359-430x488_zpsb0npgchb.jpg&hash=ca81c637c24e41004182d68fd3b85050773c6efa) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/rikku_abdul/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20170622_214642_zpspuuwxc1o_edit_1498368046359-430x488_zpsb0npgchb.jpg.html)
I think I look better without glasses, but I'm unfortunately blind without them, and the kind of issues I have can't be corrected with contacts. :(
You look good; still androgynous but more male leaning. Your jaw structure is amazing and I can tell you're gonna look hella masculine on T. The only thing I think you can change now is the hair. Hair on the face makes a person look sort of feminine. If you wore it up as a quiff I think that would work better. Just my opinion.
As for the glasses thing I sympathise. Glasses don't suit me but I can't see without them :P. I can't see anything wrong with yours though. They're the right size and shape for your face.
Quote from: seth.james on June 25, 2017, 12:43:48 AM
Okay. Pretty sure I don't pass at this point. Really want to get on T so I can stop feeling so dysphoric someday. In the right light, there actually are some masculine traits in my face, but other people still see a girl, unfortunately.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi21.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb277%2Frikku_abdul%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20170622_214712_zpsmsm7bcvy_edit_1498367619475-387x532_zpswcvgrfhg.jpg&hash=447da1c10da2710da59c6c758a4c14ccfb9d7708) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/rikku_abdul/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20170622_214712_zpsmsm7bcvy_edit_1498367619475-387x532_zpswcvgrfhg.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi21.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb277%2Frikku_abdul%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20170622_214642_zpspuuwxc1o_edit_1498368046359-430x488_zpsb0npgchb.jpg&hash=ca81c637c24e41004182d68fd3b85050773c6efa) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/rikku_abdul/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20170622_214642_zpspuuwxc1o_edit_1498368046359-430x488_zpsb0npgchb.jpg.html)
I think I look better without glasses, but I'm unfortunately blind without them, and the kind of issues I have can't be corrected with contacts. :(
You look pretty masculine to me, mi amigo. Sadly I think the thing that not passing may due you in may be the combination of other things, like voice or height.
You do have a bit of fat around the cheek area from a forward angle, it looks like. Pre-T, as odd as it may sound, the only way to change that might be contouring makeup, idk. Ironically, I think the glasses might help with that (or again, it's probably just the angle)
Thanks guys. :)
My jaw is one of the more masculine things about my face, I think. I also don't seem to have as much fat on my face as most biological females seem to. I do have a bit of stubborn fat in my cheeks that you can see when I smile, but thankfully my cheekbones are relatively prominent, making that less obvious when I'm not smiling, at least.
My voice is definitely a giveaway. I know height won't be so much an issue after I've been on T for a while; there's plenty of short guys out there, but it's definitely part of the problem now. And unfortunately taking the hair up off my face seems to make me look more feminine. Stupid hairline lol.
Quote from: seth.james on June 25, 2017, 09:20:11 PM
Thanks guys. :)
My jaw is one of the more masculine things about my face, I think. I also don't seem to have as much fat on my face as most biological females seem to. I do have a bit of stubborn fat in my cheeks that you can see when I smile, but thankfully my cheekbones are relatively prominent, making that less obvious when I'm not smiling, at least.
My voice is definitely a giveaway. I know height won't be so much an issue after I've been on T for a while; there's plenty of short guys out there, but it's definitely part of the problem now. And unfortunately taking the hair up off my face seems to make me look more feminine. Stupid hairline lol.
I agree with Elis: You have a fairly androgynous look with just a tad more emphasis on the masculine side.
As far as the hair issue (something I can certainly commiserate with as my hairline pre-T was extremely feminine), are you opposed to wearing baseball caps? Most women avoid them like the plague unless they're at a sporting event but a ton of guys wear them no matter what they're doing. I always seemed to have a higher success rate when I was wearing one.
I know a hat's just a band aid, but if you're having a particularly dysphoric day and the hat trick works, it could save you some grief in the short term.
Otherwise, your lips and nose are both very masculine. Your eyes are soft but that will more than likely change on T. Currently, your glasses sort of conceal that; the shadow a hat casts on the eyes may also help a bit if you choose to give that route a try.
Anyway, don't beat yourself up because you've got a good base.
Quote from: seth.james on June 25, 2017, 12:43:48 AM
Okay. Pretty sure I don't pass at this point. Really want to get on T so I can stop feeling so dysphoric someday. In the right light, there actually are some masculine traits in my face, but other people still see a girl, unfortunately.
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I think I look better without glasses, but I'm unfortunately blind without them, and the kind of issues I have can't be corrected with contacts. :(
I think you look pretty masculine....I just think you have the same problem I have. BABY FACE. Your look masculine, just kind of young. But I know your struggle. I'm almost 24 and I still get carded for everything...whether masculine or feminine presenting.
So I said I'd post an update when I got the new haircut...The good news is, I hopefully won't have to worry about passing too much longer because I get by letter for HRT this weekend......
Here we go...What does everyone think?
(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/1QWTU3qqt.jpg)(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/1QYRiktUy.jpg)
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That cut looks really good on you. And it makes you look much more masculine. Once you are on testosterone I think you will pass 100%.
Julia
Quote from: transguymac on June 26, 2017, 10:42:39 AM
So I said I'd post an update when I got the new haircut...The good news is, I hopefully won't have to worry about passing too much longer because I get by letter for HRT this weekend......
Here we go...What does everyone think?
(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/1QWTU3qqt.jpg)(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/1QYRiktUy.jpg)
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Haircut really suits you; I think you're going to be one of the few lucky ones who'll pass 100% within just a few months :)
Quote from: transguymac on June 26, 2017, 10:42:39 AM
So I said I'd post an update when I got the new haircut...The good news is, I hopefully won't have to worry about passing too much longer because I get by letter for HRT this weekend......
Here we go...What does everyone think?
(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/1QWTU3qqt.jpg)(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/1QYRiktUy.jpg)
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Looking good, man. I see pretty much guaranteed passing in your very near future. Congrats on getting your HRT letter this weekend, too.
Quote from: transguymac on June 26, 2017, 10:42:39 AM
So I said I'd post an update when I got the new haircut...The good news is, I hopefully won't have to worry about passing too much longer because I get by letter for HRT this weekend......
Here we go...What does everyone think?
(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/1QWTU3qqt.jpg)(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/1QYRiktUy.jpg)
(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/1QWjOeZLq.jpg)(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/1QZj4uNrC.jpg)
Looking awesome, dude! Congratulations on getting that HRT letter! You'll be passing 100% in no time.
Yeahhh, I definitely have a young face. I suppose someday that'll be a good thing, but at this time I've got people insisting to see my ID and not believing I'm too old for high school. I'm 26. :/ lol
Stone Magnum: Hats are something I hadn't really considered. That might help. Thanks! And actually, if you pull my hair back enough on the side I've got male pattern thinning on the sides, but hard to see without physically holding the hair out of the way. Hopefully T helps further that.
Quote from: Stone Magnum on June 26, 2017, 01:30:38 PM
Looking good, man. I see pretty much guaranteed passing in your very near future. Congrats on getting your HRT letter this weekend, too.
What he said you look pretty handsome.
Quote from: seth.james on June 26, 2017, 04:24:53 PM
Looking awesome, dude! Congratulations on getting that HRT letter! You'll be passing 100% in no time.
Yeahhh, I definitely have a young face. I suppose someday that'll be a good thing, but at this time I've got people insisting to see my ID and not believing I'm too old for high school. I'm 26. :/ lol
Stone Magnum: Hats are something I hadn't really considered. That might help. Thanks! And actually, if you pull my hair back enough on the side I've got male pattern thinning on the sides, but hard to see without physically holding the hair out of the way. Hopefully T helps further that.
Hats do wonders! Especially if you wear them backwards like a punk! I never would have thought you'd be 26....while that will come in handy in the long run for aging gracefully it's really going to be a pest. Some old man one asked me, "Shouldn't you be in school?" and I was like "I'm 21" and he just looked so concerned. That's about the only thing it's good for is confusing people! But I wish you so much luck and hope you find what helps. :)
Quote from: KellyBear on June 26, 2017, 05:39:45 PM
What he said you look pretty handsome.
Thank you Kelly! :icon_redface:
ok, i debated for a long time on whether or not to post here, but might as well jump in.
i know i don't pass. i also think i'm pretty darn ugly, but it's whatever. i guess what i'm looking for is some kind of feedback: what features make it or break it, how much you think T could help, what kind of glasses would work best for me (i need a new prescription, and while i'm hoping to switch back to contacts, i at least want backup glasses if i don't just end up stuck with full time glasses again due to costs)? anything at all, really.
bearing in mind that cutting off my hair is not an option (but braiding, styling, or slapping a hat on what's there is)... have at it.
sorry for having so many but i really suck at taking selfies and i wanted some with/without glasses and more than one angle, so i'll put them in links:
1 (http://i.imgur.com/G5etoOp.jpg)
2 (http://i.imgur.com/QVOqtZB.jpg)
3 (http://i.imgur.com/a7S6xpR.jpg)
4 (http://i.imgur.com/r7v3COH.jpg)
5 (http://i.imgur.com/uxKBELK.jpg)
bonus awful driver's license pic (http://i.imgur.com/2kQ23Ux.jpg)
tbh i liked the one on my permit better (http://i.imgur.com/JaS66rg.jpg)
Quote from: meatwagon on June 27, 2017, 09:29:39 AM
ok, i debated for a long time on whether or not to post here, but might as well jump in.
i know i don't pass. i also think i'm pretty darn ugly, but it's whatever. i guess what i'm looking for is some kind of feedback: what features make it or break it, how much you think T could help, what kind of glasses would work best for me (i need a new prescription, and while i'm hoping to switch back to contacts, i at least want backup glasses if i don't just end up stuck with full time glasses again due to costs)? anything at all, really.
bearing in mind that cutting off my hair is not an option (but braiding, styling, or slapping a hat on what's there is)... have at it.
sorry for having so many but i really suck at taking selfies and i wanted some with/without glasses and more than one angle, so i'll put them in links:
1 (http://i.imgur.com/G5etoOp.jpg)
2 (http://i.imgur.com/QVOqtZB.jpg)
3 (http://i.imgur.com/a7S6xpR.jpg)
4 (http://i.imgur.com/r7v3COH.jpg)
5 (http://i.imgur.com/uxKBELK.jpg)
bonus awful driver's license pic (http://i.imgur.com/2kQ23Ux.jpg)
tbh i liked the one on my permit better (http://i.imgur.com/JaS66rg.jpg)
First of all...Nice name! It makes me giggle. :x
Second.....Those DL you totally look like a biological male and with your hair pulled back it's a loooooot more convincing.
If you don't have the option to cut all your hair off...I do think hats and beanies would be a really good option.
Beanies, especially, because you can tuck the long part of your hair in, and it will hand there, even without hair in, whereas putting it all under a cap may look kind of lumpy.
Other than that I think you pass! Your jaw line and facial structure are really masculine and I think T would actually help you well!
As for glasses:(https://www.framesdirect.com/images/landing/face-shape-guide-men.jpg)
Meatwagon, Mac is right. The hair makes all the difference. With your hair out of the way you pass completely. If you can I suggest you cut it.
Julia
thanks, y'all. that's a lot better than i was expecting, tbh
i am definitely leaning toward some kind of half-rim for glasses, and something a little bigger/less narrow than my current pair. (also i cracked up at the pic. "what kind of glasses? MAN.")
i never really considered that my features looked masculine; at best, someone told me i had a decent "base" for starting T... so maybe there's something to that. hopefully i'll keep losing weight like i have been and that will help, too. the sooner the better, but it at least helps to hear that it's not too terrible in the meantime since it'll probably be a while before i get there.
i think my license/permit photos are the best pics i have of me right now, said no one else ever XD
as for hair, i do usually keep it pulled back when i go out. on the rare occasion that my friend is around and we go somewhere that's not my usual work/grocery store/doctor's office, i get to have it braided which i think looks best of all. now if only i could figure out how to do it myself... and i probably would wear hats if i had 'em just because i like hats lol. i've got a beanie, but usually it's too darn hot.
i know having shorter hair on top would help me pass better for now, but i guess i'm just a long hair kinda guy and i don't wanna give up my progress for something that is (hopefully) temporary. i know once my face caught up with me, i'd start regretting the haircut.
Quote from: meatwagon on June 27, 2017, 09:29:39 AM
ok, i debated for a long time on whether or not to post here, but might as well jump in.
i know i don't pass. i also think i'm pretty darn ugly, but it's whatever. i guess what i'm looking for is some kind of feedback: what features make it or break it, how much you think T could help, what kind of glasses would work best for me (i need a new prescription, and while i'm hoping to switch back to contacts, i at least want backup glasses if i don't just end up stuck with full time glasses again due to costs)? anything at all, really.
bearing in mind that cutting off my hair is not an option (but braiding, styling, or slapping a hat on what's there is)... have at it.
sorry for having so many but i really suck at taking selfies and i wanted some with/without glasses and more than one angle, so i'll put them in links:
1 (http://i.imgur.com/G5etoOp.jpg)
2 (http://i.imgur.com/QVOqtZB.jpg)
3 (http://i.imgur.com/a7S6xpR.jpg)
4 (http://i.imgur.com/r7v3COH.jpg)
5 (http://i.imgur.com/uxKBELK.jpg)
bonus awful driver's license pic (http://i.imgur.com/2kQ23Ux.jpg)
tbh i liked the one on my permit better (http://i.imgur.com/JaS66rg.jpg)
You pass pretty well. And you don't look ugly; this is coming from someone who considers themselves sorta ugly. The glasses are a tad too big for your face making you look sorta fem; but the shape suit you really well.
Quote from: Elis on June 27, 2017, 11:13:15 AM
You pass pretty well. And you don't look ugly; this is coming from someone who considers themselves sorta ugly. The glasses are a tad too big for your face making you look sorta fem; but the shape suit you really well.
i guess everyone is their own worst critic. i'm sure you ain't as bad as you think, either
but yeah, definitely looking forward to trying on different glasses; these just don't suit me any more.
Quote from: meatwagon on June 27, 2017, 11:12:32 AM
thanks, y'all. that's a lot better than i was expecting, tbh
i am definitely leaning toward some kind of half-rim for glasses, and something a little bigger/less narrow than my current pair. (also i cracked up at the pic. "what kind of glasses? MAN.")
i never really considered that my features looked masculine; at best, someone told me i had a decent "base" for starting T... so maybe there's something to that. hopefully i'll keep losing weight like i have been and that will help, too. the sooner the better, but it at least helps to hear that it's not too terrible in the meantime since it'll probably be a while before i get there.
i think my license/permit photos are the best pics i have of me right now, said no one else ever XD
as for hair, i do usually keep it pulled back when i go out. on the rare occasion that my friend is around and we go somewhere that's not my usual work/grocery store/doctor's office, i get to have it braided which i think looks best of all. now if only i could figure out how to do it myself... and i probably would wear hats if i had 'em just because i like hats lol. i've got a beanie, but usually it's too darn hot.
i know having shorter hair on top would help me pass better for now, but i guess i'm just a long hair kinda guy and i don't wanna give up my progress for something that is (hopefully) temporary. i know once my face caught up with me, i'd start regretting the haircut.
I didn't even notice that. Haha!!! But you definitely have a good base.
If you're trying to lose weight and have the the physical ability, I suggest focusing on weight training rather than any kind of cardio. Like you can still throw some in, but if you work on building some upper body muscle, like back, shoulders and arms, that could help some!
Quote from: meatwagon on June 27, 2017, 09:29:39 AM
ok, i debated for a long time on whether or not to post here, but might as well jump in.
i know i don't pass. i also think i'm pretty darn ugly, but it's whatever. i guess what i'm looking for is some kind of feedback: what features make it or break it, how much you think T could help, what kind of glasses would work best for me (i need a new prescription, and while i'm hoping to switch back to contacts, i at least want backup glasses if i don't just end up stuck with full time glasses again due to costs)? anything at all, really.
bearing in mind that cutting off my hair is not an option (but braiding, styling, or slapping a hat on what's there is)... have at it.
sorry for having so many but i really suck at taking selfies and i wanted some with/without glasses and more than one angle, so i'll put them in links:
1 (http://i.imgur.com/G5etoOp.jpg)
2 (http://i.imgur.com/QVOqtZB.jpg)
3 (http://i.imgur.com/a7S6xpR.jpg)
4 (http://i.imgur.com/r7v3COH.jpg)
5 (http://i.imgur.com/uxKBELK.jpg)
bonus awful driver's license pic (http://i.imgur.com/2kQ23Ux.jpg)
tbh i liked the one on my permit better (http://i.imgur.com/JaS66rg.jpg)
I think you pass quite well with your hair pulled back! I also don't think you're ugly. I agree the glasses might be slightly large for your face, but the shape does suit you well. :)
Quote from: transguymac on June 26, 2017, 10:36:38 AM
I think you look pretty masculine....I just think you have the same problem I have. BABY FACE. Your look masculine, just kind of young. But I know your struggle. I'm almost 24 and I still get carded for everything...whether masculine or feminine presenting.
Hopefully that won't be an issue for me much longer... I should be on T in about a month! I'm so excited! :D Just got an appointment at an informed consent clinic.
Ok. Here's a morning pic of me. At 03:30 AM. Maybe looking a bit tired. Going to work soon.
So the question is, do I look like a butch or do I pass somewhat? Are random people just nice when they say he to me.
I've not started out with hormones. I'm still waiting for my psychiatrist to send the letter to the gender therapist.
https://imgur.com/a/6YeVF
Can't wait to get my new binder, when I have, you'll get a whole body pic.
Quote from: MeTonie on June 27, 2017, 09:06:00 PM
Ok. Here's a morning pic of me. At 03:30 AM. Maybe looking a bit tired. Going to work soon.
So the question is, do I look like a butch or do I pass somewhat? Are random people just nice when they say he to me.
I've not started out with hormones. I'm still waiting for my psychiatrist to send the letter to the gender therapist.
https://imgur.com/a/6YeVF
Can't wait to get my new binder, when I have, you'll get a whole body pic.
This one's tough for me. I live in a very liberal city and frequently see 'stone butch' lesbians that have somewhat similar appearances. If I saw you in public around here, I'd look for other clues (chest, hips, etc.) beyond your face. I've seen a couple people I pegged as trans men that got pisssseeeedddd when cashiers/waitresses/etc. gendered them as male, so it's hard in areas like this. In other places, I'd say 95% of people would read you as male (maybe just a chesty one if not binding depending on your size) and not give it a second thought.
All that being said, you have very masculine qualities and I don't think random people are just being nice when they gender you as male by any means. Testosterone will help to slim down your cheeks (after the god awful 'moon face' phase, of course) and I think that's really going to help. Their softness is really the only feminine thing about your face.
Quote from: MeTonie on June 27, 2017, 09:06:00 PM
Ok. Here's a morning pic of me. At 03:30 AM. Maybe looking a bit tired. Going to work soon.
So the question is, do I look like a butch or do I pass somewhat? Are random people just nice when they say he to me.
I've not started out with hormones. I'm still waiting for my psychiatrist to send the letter to the gender therapist.
https://imgur.com/a/6YeVF
Can't wait to get my new binder, when I have, you'll get a whole body pic.
It's hard to tell; you look really androgynous. Like Stone Magnum said most people would gender you as male and it's only the softness of your face that makes you seem feminine. You're going to pass in no time on T.
Thank you. There is hope. :D
Quote from: seth.james on June 27, 2017, 08:43:38 PM
Hopefully that won't be an issue for me much longer... I should be on T in about a month! I'm so excited! :D Just got an appointment at an informed consent clinic.
Congratz Bro!!! I should be starting myself soon as well! :icon_pelvic_thrust2:
-high five-
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I have my initial appointment for HRT in three days and I'm all antsy/fidgeting with my hair. I think standing it up on end is helping, but I'm worried that I just look kinda butch. Also I'm not a huge fan of sports jersey type things, and I'm hoping that I'll eventually masculinize enough that I can douse myself in glitter and still read as clearly a guy. ???
*finds out whether or not I actually know how to embed an image....now!*
Edit: apparently I lack embedding skills. Here's the link instead:
http://imgur.com/a/vj0mV
Quote from: EnbyGuy on July 03, 2017, 02:12:24 PM
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I have my initial appointment for HRT in three days and I'm all antsy/fidgeting with my hair. I think standing it up on end is helping, but I'm worried that I just look kinda butch. Also I'm not a huge fan of sports jersey type things, and I'm hoping that I'll eventually masculinize enough that I can douse myself in glitter and still read as clearly a guy. ???
*finds out whether or not I actually know how to embed an image....now!*
Edit: apparently I lack embedding skills. Here's the link instead:
http://imgur.com/a/vj0mV
You are totally passable now. With testosterone you think will be even better.
Quote from: EnbyGuy on July 03, 2017, 02:12:24 PM
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I have my initial appointment for HRT in three days and I'm all antsy/fidgeting with my hair. I think standing it up on end is helping, but I'm worried that I just look kinda butch. Also I'm not a huge fan of sports jersey type things, and I'm hoping that I'll eventually masculinize enough that I can douse myself in glitter and still read as clearly a guy. ???
*finds out whether or not I actually know how to embed an image....now!*
Edit: apparently I lack embedding skills. Here's the link instead:
http://imgur.com/a/vj0mV
I agree with Julia wholly!
Thanks! :)
Ok, I know I dont pass and I've had the " too pretty to be trans" comment a number of times so my confidence isnt great. Im just wondering if I at least look andro, any advice would be welcome. My hair is longer than it used to be so I plan to cut it but still feel like my facegives me away no matter what :(
Heres the link, but it's private (im not out to anyone so dont want just anyone seeing it). Pw is ftmguest
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Woops, heres the link:
http://s36.photobucket.com/user/MrYolo37/library/?sort=3&page=1
Pw is ftmguest
Quote from: MrYolo on July 05, 2017, 11:53:19 PM
Woops, heres the link:
http://s36.photobucket.com/user/MrYolo37/library/?sort=3&page=1
Pw is ftmguest
You look like a fem boy in some of the pics. I think because your hair is so long it makes your face look sort of feminine; but once you cut it you'll look androgynous or male.
Quote from: MrYolo on July 05, 2017, 11:53:19 PM
Woops, heres the link:
http://s36.photobucket.com/user/MrYolo37/library/?sort=3&page=1
Pw is ftmguest
Your hair is giving your entire face and head a very heart-shaped feminine appearance, especially in the first and last images. The 'bangs' look really doesn't work for guys/FTMs past the age of 10 or so because they're very feminizing.
Here's what's essentially happening: The poofiness/shape of your hair is making your already narrowed jaw and chin look even more narrow and slight which is, in turn, making your cheeks look fuller and softer.
You do have slightly more feminine features but so do a lot of Asian males, so that's really not a huge issue. If you tweaked a few things you could likely reach a state of androgyny.
Bonus: I can't tell whether that's the adjustment strap for the hat poking out, but if it is, hack it off or conceal it in some way once the hat's adjusted to your head size. I see a lot of dudes walking around like that and it just makes their heads look/seem small and that's the last thing you want when you're trying to pass.
I know I look 12 but I'm actually nearly 17 xD Pre everything still.
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Quote from: Zeno on July 19, 2017, 06:40:48 PM
I know I look 12 but I'm actually nearly 17 xD Pre everything still.
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I honestly think youre masculine enough to pass as a young male for years to come until you can get on T, if Ryan Cassata (https://www.instagram.com/ryancassata/) can pass at 23 you can definitely pass, albeit young, but definitely male.
Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on July 20, 2017, 12:05:53 AM
I honestly think youre masculine enough to pass as a young male for years to come until you can get on T, if Ryan Cassata (https://www.instagram.com/ryancassata/) can pass at 23 you can definitely pass, albeit young, but definitely male.
Thanks! I'll be able to start T in a year and a half because of how the UK system works, so hopefully I can hold on until then haha.
Hit me with your best shot
http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/phototaker97/library/What%20up?sort=3&page=1
Quote from: dusty97 on July 22, 2017, 08:03:37 AM
Hit me with your best shot
http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/phototaker97/library/What%20up?sort=3&page=1
I'd say you're pretty androgynous. This is primarily because I see a lot of lesbians and men alike dressed similarly to you with the same haircut/glasses combo here in the cities. If I saw you out in public, I'd subconsciously look for other clues to gender you.
The two predominant things working against you are the two things working against pretty much all of us pre-everything: Your hairline and the softness/fullness of your face.
You're doing a really good job binding, though, from what I can tell from those images.
Quote from: Stone Magnum on July 22, 2017, 01:41:37 PM
I'd say you're pretty androgynous. This is primarily because I see a lot of lesbians and men alike dressed similarly to you with the same haircut/glasses combo here in the cities. If I saw you out in public, I'd subconsciously look for other clues to gender you.
The two predominant things working against you are the two things working against pretty much all of us pre-everything: Your hairline and the softness/fullness of your face.
You're doing a really good job binding, though, from what I can tell from those images.
Yeah, my face kinda works against me. I got asked today at Cracker Barrel if I wanted a kid's menu... so I mean, I guess I look like a 12 year old boy? That's a little better, LOL.
As far as binding goes, I have it a little easier because I'm already only about a B-cup, and one of the cheaper, theatre-geared/ cosplay binders does the trick.
Thanks for the feedback.
I think, not counting when I was a small child, I've only passed three or four times in public in my life. Has anyone got advice?
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Quote from: Terence on August 05, 2017, 05:26:17 PM
I think, not counting when I was a small child, I've only passed three or four times in public in my life. Has anyone got advice?
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The roundness of the cut and the amount of hair on the sides sorta exencuate the roundness of your face. I think if you get it a bit shorter and squarer then you might look more masculine. Bit you definitely look androgynous.
Wouldn't cut it off though if you're happy how it is; it's a pain growing your hair back to that length.
I think your face goes both ways. At first I thought it's an mtf in early stages. But the neat haircut seems to look female-style with nothing else to counter the impression. I think guys short hair (or medium hair) styles would not go hair back (to a side maybe, or have it short enough to let it go down) and on the sides - guys don't pull the hair behind ears.
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I agree with the points both elkie and Elis have raised. You really don't have any particular features about your face that scream 'female' apart from the general roundness of your forehead and that one feature is being further accentuated by your haircut. As is pretty much always the case for us pre-T, the semi-unnatural color may not be doing you any favors either. If that's something you really like, though, don't feel like you have to change it.
The hair behind the ears thing is something I wouldn't have really put any thought into, but that was a keen observation on elkie's behalf.
In my anciently outdated world a guy must slightly better than an ape (or a Neanderthal) spending no more effort to his looks than those 2 (ok, maybe a bit more, but the less the better). Anything that makes a guy to stand out is a trigger to be scrutinized further.
Now, some good physical presence of muscles and sheer physical confidence goes a long way to counterbalance those second guessing looks. A big guy with bear-like physique (or a small yet obviously fit guy with strong lean muscles) can wear a skirt and have any kind of hair and won't be challenged by anyone :)
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Quote from: Terence on August 05, 2017, 05:26:17 PM
I think, not counting when I was a small child, I've only passed three or four times in public in my life. Has anyone got advice?
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The last pic definitely screams "male!" to me. The other two, I would need some other clues to not peg you as androgynous.
Maybe try going to a barber or stylist that also cut men's hair? I don't think the color is the problem, its the style. Also I agree, from my observation, men don't usually put their hair behind their ears.
Still, your facial bone structure is great! Lucky you!
Ryuichi
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One week and a few days on T feat. "Not"girlfriend and new haircut.
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Quote from: transguymac on August 07, 2017, 10:05:18 PM
One week and a few days on T feat. "Not"girlfriend and new haircut.
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Yiu pass 100%. How is that fair!!! ::)
I don't know why, but you look totally a guy. And your facial features and a haircut aren't that different from the previous poster. Maybe it's 'in your face' head position where your head goes slightly forward as if 'challenge me if you dare'?
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Sooo hi again. Moved to the city and somehow almost-everyone in the university takes me directly as a guy (though one guy directly asked if I was a guy, some weird stuff 'cause some people said "he", referring to me, and some others (less) said "she"). Well, there's a lot to this "story" so I may write a post to vent a little and such. (? But right now... I want to know if I made a mistake with my hair, if it is better now or no change at all, at passing.
This was me just some hours ago:
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And this is me now:
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Does the new haircut makes me look like a butch lesbian? That's one of my worst fears. God, I don't want that. But I kinda feel like I look like one. Though, I passed at the hairdresser.
Anyway. Thoughts? Any suggestion?
Quote from: CodexUmbrae on September 04, 2017, 06:41:07 PM
Sooo hi again. Moved to the city and somehow almost-everyone in the university takes me directly as a guy (though one guy directly asked if I was a guy, some weird stuff 'cause some people said "he", referring to me, and some others (less) said "she"). Well, there's a lot to this "story" so I may write a post to vent a little and such. (? But right now... I want to know if I made a mistake with my hair, if it is better now or no change at all, at passing.
This was me just some hours ago:
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And this is me now:
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Does the new haircut makes me look like a butch lesbian? That's one of my worst fears. God, I don't want that. But I kinda feel like a look like one. Though, I passed at the hairdresser.
Anyway. Thoughts? Any suggestion?
You continue to pass to me but still as a very young boy (around 12). If I saw you on a college campus I'd read you as a female but only because I'd assume a boy that young wouldn't be in college, if that makes sense.
On the street? I'd see a boy.
It's a nice haircut in my opinion and slimmed out your face a little for the better.
Quote from: CodexUmbrae on September 04, 2017, 06:41:07 PM
Sooo hi again. Moved to the city and somehow almost-everyone in the university takes me directly as a guy (though one guy directly asked if I was a guy, some weird stuff 'cause some people said "he", referring to me, and some others (less) said "she"). Well, there's a lot to this "story" so I may write a post to vent a little and such. (? But right now... I want to know if I made a mistake with my hair, if it is better now or no change at all, at passing.
This was me just some hours ago:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170904/675030e9a590b574e408127c57b5d97d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170904/ce241233b2bc23be8a97330f1c97d76f.jpg)
And this is me now:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170904/5540e44dbcf788f4b3434f03540f59b9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170904/72c6ce50aa85b3058f45ffbf4abb7587.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170904/ba1db0b79bad69cec1067f439d8a02e8.jpg)
Does the new haircut makes me look like a butch lesbian? That's one of my worst fears. God, I don't want that. But I kinda feel like a look like one. Though, I passed at the hairdresser.
Anyway. Thoughts? Any suggestion?
Still think you look like a dude, in fact, despite how young your face is I'm surprised how well you pass. I'm not sure how you get people to see you as a guy despite being in college, but you may as well take it as it is and not ask questions
Protip: If someone directly asks if you are a guy, you should totally respond "Yes", if you haven't already. In fact, if it's still confusing some people where some will call you he and some she, take the opportunity to refer to yourself as male, insert phrases like "I'm the type of guy who procrastinates a lot!" or "Guess who just got an A in class? This guy!" Seems like you already got the majority of people gendering you in your favor, you may as well play that along and maybe next time someone calls you "she" look surprised and correct them.
You totally pass as male. A young male but still a male. Your hair looks very good also.
Quote from: TransAm on September 04, 2017, 06:55:33 PM
You continue to pass to me but still as a very young boy (around 12). If I saw you on a college campus I'd read you as a female but only because I'd assume a boy that young wouldn't be in college, if that makes sense.
On the street? I'd see a boy.
It's a nice haircut in my opinion and slimmed out your face a little for the better.
Thanks. I do think that, at least some of the people that read me as female are doing so for the same reason that you said. Ironically, many people seriously thought that I was a gifted kiddo. xD A 12yo genius child, but whatever, I'm kinda used to people thinking I'm younger, even when I was still presenting as female (I'm barely 5').
Thank you, I was worried about the haircut doing the opposite, to make my face look even rounder.
Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on September 04, 2017, 07:20:56 PM
Still think you look like a dude, in fact, despite how young your face is I'm surprised how well you pass. I'm not sure how you get people to see you as a guy despite being in college, but you may as well take it as it is and not ask questions
Protip: If someone directly asks if you are a guy, you should totally respond "Yes", if you haven't already. In fact, if it's still confusing some people where some will call you he and some she, take the opportunity to refer to yourself as male, insert phrases like "I'm the type of guy who procrastinates a lot!" or "Guess who just got an A in class? This guy!" Seems like you already got the majority of people gendering you in your favor, you may as well play that along and maybe next time someone calls you "she" look surprised and correct them.
Yeah, I've come to the same conclusion. xD Specially given my lack of ability to "act like a grown up", I usually give the appearance to be lost (and most of the time, I feel lost). Whatever. xD
Yeah, I answered "Yes" (well, no, I just nodded at the moment, to be precise) when he asked. And yep, I'm gonna take your protip. The one thing that scares me, is that all of my papers are still with the wrong gender (about my name, I don't understand at all how most of them just ignored the fact that one of my names is crearly female, but I'll take it; I just go by my last name). I don't want to be outed, 'cause I know most of the people here are still pretty transphobic. But well, I hope to start with transition soon enough to avoid as much problems as possible.
Thank you.
Quote from: Julia1996 on September 04, 2017, 08:05:31 PM
You totally pass as male. A young male but still a male. Your hair looks very good also.
Thank youuu. (: I guess I'm gonna say that I took a bath in the fountain of youth. xD
CodexUmbrae. University cities are a great places to transition. I could see going a little shorter with your hair; probably help you past easier.
Quote from: mm on September 14, 2017, 07:24:24 PM
CodexUmbrae. University cities are a great places to transition. I could see going a little shorter with your hair; probably help you past easier.
Yeah, most of the people don't know anything about me and youth is usually more accepting than adults. The one real issue could be with transphobic teachers, but as until now, I haven't any problems about that.
And thank you for the tip, I may as well cut it shorter next time.
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Took this after church the other day and didn't realize how decent it looked until today. Except my tie is wonky. Ugh.
Then again, you can't see my hips or my height here, which are kinda dead give-aways sometimes.
Quote from: dusty97 on September 20, 2017, 10:18:10 PM
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Took this after church the other day and didn't realize how decent it looked until today. Except my tie is wonky. Ugh.
Then again, you can't see my hips or my height here, which are kinda dead give-aways sometimes.
I can't see your pic, something about the site where you uploaded it.
Quote from: dusty97 on September 20, 2017, 10:18:10 PM
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Took this after church the other day and didn't realize how decent it looked until today. Except my tie is wonky. Ugh.
Then again, you can't see my hips or my height here, which are kinda dead give-aways sometimes.
Unfortunately photobucket no longer allows free third-party hosting. They now charge $399/year for it!.[emoji35]
You might want to switch to flickr (sp?) I hear a lot of good things about it. There are other sites too but flickr is the one I know the most about.
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Quote from: CodexUmbrae on September 21, 2017, 12:39:59 AM
I can't see your pic, something about the site where you uploaded it.
Quote from: Ryuichi13 on September 21, 2017, 08:22:04 AM
Unfortunately photobucket no longer allows free third-party hosting. They now charge $399/year for it!.[emoji35]
You might want to switch to flickr (sp?) I hear a lot of good things about it. There are other sites too but flickr is the one I know the most about.
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well darn. I didn't know that. Must be pretty recent, considering it worked fine a couple months ago. It did show fine in the preview, though... that's why I didn't catch it.
Took the time (all two minutes of it) to learn Flickr. Thanks for the help on that, Codex and Ryuichi.
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Quote from: dusty97 on September 21, 2017, 12:09:13 PM
well darn. I didn't know that. Must be pretty recent, considering it worked fine a couple months ago. It did show fine in the preview, though... that's why I didn't catch it.
Took the time (all two minutes of it) to learn Flickr. Thanks for the help on that, Codex and Ryuichi.
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Yes you pass. You look like a handsome young guy in that picture.
Quote from: Julia1996 on September 21, 2017, 12:14:06 PM
Yes you pass. You look like a handsome young guy in that picture.
Well thank you very much! :icon_redface: ;D
Quote from: dusty97 on September 21, 2017, 12:09:13 PM
well darn. I didn't know that. Must be pretty recent, considering it worked fine a couple months ago. It did show fine in the preview, though... that's why I didn't catch it.
Took the time (all two minutes of it) to learn Flickr. Thanks for the help on that, Codex and Ryuichi.
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You're welcome. And I agree with Julia, you pass pretty well and you look good. I think the haircut suits you well (at least, what I can see).
Congrats. ;)
How do I look?
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All right, here goes . . . I know I don't pass well, but I'm curious about which picture I pass best in.
Picture 1, taken in June of this year: It's not a bad pic of me, but my feeling is that I look 100% feminine here.
(https://i.imgur.com/znF6MFp.gif)
Picture 2, taken last week: I think the new glasses help, and the lack of a goofy smile keeps me from looking totally girly. It's blurry af, though, and I look sorta grim. I'm not actually a grim person.
(https://i.imgur.com/E9Chpqf.gif)
Picture 3, also taken last week: I look like a total fat ****, but wth, I am a total fat ****. Not thrilled with the squinty eyes (I was looking into the sun), but at least I don't look like somebody just died.
(https://i.imgur.com/lPxQlNL.gif)
Do people have any preferences among the pictures?
Quote from: The Flying Lemur on October 24, 2017, 09:42:54 PM
All right, here goes . . . I know I don't pass well, but I'm curious about which picture I pass best in.
Picture 1, taken in June of this year: It's not a bad pic of me, but my feeling is that I look 100% feminine here.
(https://i.imgur.com/znF6MFp.gif)
Picture 2, taken last week: I think the new glasses help, and the lack of a goofy smile keeps me from looking totally girly. It's blurry af, though, and I look sorta grim. I'm not actually a grim person.
(https://i.imgur.com/E9Chpqf.gif)
Picture 3, also taken last week: I look like a total fat ****, but wth, I am a total fat ****. Not thrilled with the squinty eyes (I was looking into the sun), but at least I don't look like somebody just died.
(https://i.imgur.com/lPxQlNL.gif)
Do people have any preferences among the pictures?
I think in the last two pics you look totally male. The glasses did some weird superman/Clark Kent like transformation :D
You seriously just made my day, man. Here I was thinking I was just going to look like a big, goofy girl until I'd been a year on T. :p
Ok. I'll post two pics.
Just woke up.
https://imgur.com/a/xZDVG
And this one was good, I'm happy with the result
https://imgur.com/a/NTOhM
Is there anything I can do pre T?
My voice gives me away. But with my hair or something? I am gendered female 50% of the time. Maybe it's my chest giving me away? On the second image I wear a binder.
Or maybe I just need to wait for T to do the trick? More facial hair and stuff.
You're right that the second image is very good . . . it think it shows that how masculine your face looks depends on what angle someone's looking at you from. As for the first image, that angle makes your face look soft. Losing some weight might help (Lord knows I'm trying to lose weight myself), or you could wait for T to work its magic and do some fat redistribution on you.
There's probably some way to do makeup so that it accentuates the angles in your face rather than the curves, but then of course you'd be wearing makeup, which up close will read very female. I wish I had better advice. :(
I started going to the gym again. Been a member for 4 years. Not been there enough. Haha. Tomorrow is next time I'll go. Core and back training. I'll end with the x-trainer. Maybe I'll lose some weight in a couple of months.
Never used makeup. I'll look like a halloween ghost if I try to put makeup on myself. [emoji2]
Quote from: The Flying Lemur on October 24, 2017, 09:42:54 PM
All right, here goes . . . I know I don't pass well, but I'm curious about which picture I pass best in.
Picture 1, taken in June of this year: It's not a bad pic of me, but my feeling is that I look 100% feminine here.
(https://i.imgur.com/znF6MFp.gif)
Picture 2, taken last week: I think the new glasses help, and the lack of a goofy smile keeps me from looking totally girly. It's blurry af, though, and I look sorta grim. I'm not actually a grim person.
(https://i.imgur.com/E9Chpqf.gif)
Picture 3, also taken last week: I look like a total fat ****, but wth, I am a total fat ****. Not thrilled with the squinty eyes (I was looking into the sun), but at least I don't look like somebody just died.
(https://i.imgur.com/lPxQlNL.gif)
Do people have any preferences among the pictures?
The glasses made a huge difference, honestly. They seemed to slightly elongate your face. I do agree with you in that I read 'female' in the first posted image but the last two (especially the middle one) are
much more male-leaning. Also, you have great texture to your hair.
Quote from: MeTonie on October 25, 2017, 08:54:28 AM
Ok. I'll post two pics.
Just woke up.
https://imgur.com/a/xZDVG
And this one was good, I'm happy with the result
https://imgur.com/a/NTOhM
Is there anything I can do pre T?
My voice gives me away. But with my hair or something? I am gendered female 50% of the time. Maybe it's my chest giving me away? On the second image I wear a binder.
Or maybe I just need to wait for T to do the trick? More facial hair and stuff.
By and large, you're very masculine. I keep looking back to your face and, even though I don't see any notably 'feminine' features, there's some weird little subtle thing that lingers in the background. It's not immediately apparent and it's certainly not at the forefront.
Have you ever seen those guys that take pre/post photos with subtle but
extremely poignant changes almost right off the bat? Things you can't necessarily put your finger on but the difference is night and day? I think you're going to be one of those guys.
Thanks, TransAm! That's reassuring to hear. I hope T works its magic on me quickly. Last night someone called me "Miss." (I don't like "Ma'am" much, but I get it. But "Miss?" I'm 45 years old!)
Interesting, TransAm. I think I'll have to check out before and after pics.