Ok this might not actually be in 3D but the title is catcy you have to admit. The last Do I Pass thread has been in use for over a year and has over 4,000 posts so I think it's time to break out a new thread.
As with the previous threads you can post your pictures, youtube videos, etc. and get some input from other members instead of creating a new thread for each pic or vid.
This is meant to help give advice and constructive criticism. Remember there is a difference between being truthful and being rude.
Also note that there is no way for someone on the internet to really be able to tell if you pass in real life. There is a big difference between interacting with someone and seeing a photo or video.
First post!
:laugh:
Yeah!
I wish I had a picture worthy of posting.
Lol, okay.
Thanks for all the responses! I wasn't binding that day, and I usually don't wear shirts that short but I was just lounging around the house. It's extremely hard for me to gain weight because I was anorexic for ten years and then had a bad cocaine habit for a while (clean for three and a half years now). I should be starting T soon though (if I can afford the endo).
Quote from: Preston on February 13, 2012, 01:27:50 AM
Lol, okay.
Thanks for all the responses! I wasn't binding that day, and I usually don't wear shirts that short but I was just lounging around the house. It's extremely hard for me to gain weight because I was anorexic for ten years and then had a bad cocaine habit for a while (clean for three and a half years now). I should be starting T soon though (if I can afford the endo).
Testosterone will make it much easier for you to gain mass, especially muscle mass.
Heck, I think I look like a five year old in some of my Pre-T pictures.
Lol. So sad.
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I've put on like 25lbs or something since then.
Jason, thanks for starting us off with a bang....or an aww. Whatever.
I've been working out everyday. I'll post another picture tomorrow. Thank you so much!!! :D
Quote from: JasonRX on February 13, 2012, 01:35:14 AM
Testosterone will make it much easier for you to gain mass, especially muscle mass.
Heck, I think I look like a five year old in some of my Pre-T pictures.
Lol. So sad.
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I've put on like 25lbs or something since then.
awh :3 (to the both of you!)
Quote from: JasonRX on February 13, 2012, 01:35:14 AM
Testosterone will make it much easier for you to gain mass, especially muscle mass.
Heck, I think I look like a five year old in some of my Pre-T pictures.
Lol. So sad.
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I've put on like 25lbs or something since then.
Wow that's a huge difference (comparing it to your avatar) and it's only been 4~ months? Nice. Took me about 10 months for that kind of result.
Quote from: poptart on February 13, 2012, 03:06:58 AM
Wow that's a huge difference (comparing it to your avatar) and it's only been 4~ months? Nice. Took me about 10 months for that kind of result.
It's more like closer to five though, but I actually look a tad different at starting testosterone.
This was taken back in May or something like that.
So, it wasn't like exactly before I started or anything.
But yeah, I also posted a photo on "Badass" recently, and it definitely is a huge difference.
OMG A KITTY! SO FLIPPIN' CUTE! HAY GUISE DO I PASS!?!?
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Sorry...first thing I think of when cats are involved is the internet...which eventually leads to unicorns.
*trots off*
i work out 5 times in the week i am not on t yet but i take some supliments i gain muscle mass but i still think its not enough and i still should look bigger think so?
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yo im pre evrythin rite now ill be on T and get top surgery in about a year luckily.
so wat do u guys think?
Tranzwear Review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b-l4y3bTVk&list=UUhas2LJXso5rb8uhrKkmYEA&index=1&feature=plcp#)
btw ik ik ik i hav a baby face i ->-bleeped-<-in hate it but thers nuthin i can do bout it
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on February 13, 2012, 12:32:31 PM
yo im pre evrythin rite now ill be on T and get top surgery in about a year luckily.
so wat do u guys think?
Tranzwear Review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b-l4y3bTVk&list=UUhas2LJXso5rb8uhrKkmYEA&index=1&feature=plcp#)
btw ik ik ik i hav a baby face i ->-bleeped-<-in hate it but thers nuthin i can do bout it
You're like 14, haha.
Alot of cis-guys still have baby faces around that age.
You're a qtie.
I bet you all hate it when I comment on here.
;D
Quote from: JoeyD on February 13, 2012, 12:48:10 PM
You're like 14, haha.
Alot of cis-guys still have baby faces around that age.
You're a qtie.
I bet you all hate it when I comment on here.
;D
I agree with what you said here, Joey.
D'aw.
:)
Quote from: JoeyD on February 13, 2012, 12:48:10 PM
You're like 14, haha.
Alot of cis-guys still have baby faces around that age.
You're a qtie.
I bet you all hate it when I comment on here.
;D
haha thanks 8)
Nick -
Your face passes really well to me for Pre-T. I would say that you pass visually, but I can't say because I really can't see what any of the rest of your body except your head in these pics looks like. From what I can see though, yeah, you look good.
:]
Quote from: JasonRX on February 13, 2012, 03:17:45 PM
Nick -
Your face passes really well to me for Pre-T. I would say that you pass visually, but I can't say because I really can't see what any of the rest of your body except your head in these pics looks like. From what I can see though, yeah, you look good.
:]
LOL if you saw more than below my neck I know 300% I wouldn't pass. My chest...DAMN YOU CHESTICLES!!!! But if you look at me neck up, I have masculine features I think. Once I'm on T...Gosh, I will be so happy!!!
Yo just wanted some opinions. Im preverything. Been lookin at videos of guys documenting their transition and damn i cant wait til its my turn for real. Anyway i took a quick pic just to see how far i stand from where i want to be. I dont think I look that feminine, but that may just be me lol so what do you all think?
Thanks in advance brotatos!
Quote from: frann on February 13, 2012, 04:08:35 PM
Yo just wanted some opinions. Im preverything. Been lookin at videos of guys documenting their transition and damn i cant wait til its my turn for real. Anyway i took a quick pic just to see how far i stand from where i want to be. I dont think I look that feminine, but that may just be me lol so what do you all think?
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Thanks in advance brotatos!
LOVE the adam's apple! Or at least what appears to be one! ^_^ For pre-t, yes your face isn't very feminine and once you get T, all will be golden!
Quote from: frann on February 13, 2012, 04:08:35 PM
Yo just wanted some opinions. Im preverything. Been lookin at videos of guys documenting their transition and damn i cant wait til its my turn for real. Anyway i took a quick pic just to see how far i stand from where i want to be. I dont think I look that feminine, but that may just be me lol so what do you all think?
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Thanks in advance brotatos!
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On your neck...is that your Adam's apple or is it just some strange shadow?
If it's your Adam's apple, I'm jealous...esp if you're Pre-T (I dunno if you are).
Nick: lol thanks I cherish that thing
Jason: it might be the lighting+shadow that makes it look prominent in the pic. But I've always had that bump in my neck. I'm pre t ya.
Frann and Nick, I thinkg you both pass well in the face for per T. Good luck to you both.
And JasonRX, that is such a vast difference from pre-T to now, mainly in the shoulder area. Well done to the hard work.
I seriously identify so little with the person who is in the picture I posted.
In my eyes, it hardly looks like it's me anymore and that makes me happy.
Thanks a lot for the input guys.
...but that ragdoll cat is cute as fork and I still wish I could stealz it home with me.
;D
@JasonRX: Wow! I can definitely see a change. You look great! Is that facial hair in your avatar pic? How long have you been on T for?
@jossef-ftm: Either with more muscles or not, you still look great!
@ty.to.the.man: You pass 100% for me as a young teen, and I think your voice passes a young male too.
@Nick: I'd say you pass as a young teen.
@frann: Pass.
Quote from: Dominick_81 on February 13, 2012, 09:14:02 PM
@JasonRX: Wow! I can definitely see a change. You look great! Is that facial hair in your avatar pic? How long have you been on T for?
My voice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywpylgm3Snk&feature=youtu.be#)
That picture was taken back in May of last year.
I've been on testosterone for about five months now.
And yeah, it's facial hair.
Quote from: JasonRX on February 13, 2012, 11:03:31 PM
That picture was taken back in May of last year.
I've been on testosterone for about five months now.
And yeah, it's facial hair.
That is awesome! Wish I was able to grow facial hair like that.
Hey guys, I think you all are looking great. I am posting two photos here. The first is head on and the second is a body shot of me from behind. (I am not a gun nut, I was at the shooting range for a friend's birthday.) I am not on T nor am I invested in passing as male 100% but I have been working with diet/supplements and working out/lifting hard to further masculinize myself to feel more comfortable in my own skin. Just curious about general impressions. Thanks.
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@Anderson404: I'd say you pass in both pics.
Frann and Anderson: you both pass 100% imo
Wow anderson, your body is very masculine. Good on you! :)
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Okay, i chose this picture because i thought that my body type wouldn't really be seen. i should be starting T in a month. but, can anyone pinpoint what it is about my face that makes me not pass?
Preston: your face passes imo.
@ Caseyyy Thanks. I spent my whole childhood getting made fun of for having a flat dude's ass. Now I am pretty happy about it.
@Preston. I think your face passes completely in that photo.
preston: face pretty much pass mayb ur eyebrows hinder a bit? idk but ur face passes fine.
@Anderson: this is going to sound weird, but...I'm jealous of your ass.
And moving on now...
Preston, I think your face is pretty much androgynous -- personally I would probably look for other clues in person or just take your word either way. So perhaps it's not so much that it doesn't pass per se (i.e. it's not that it looks feminine) but that it could go either way. Which isn't a negative thing, really.
preston, it's partly your eyebrows- they're thin, and also that your face shape is very slender, which is a feminine trait and something you can't really help. t should make a big difference.
I've posted a few singing clips, and here's another one. This is my 10 months (plus a week) recording.
http://www.jayjacksononline.com/todayjayfeb15.mp3 (http://www.jayjacksononline.com/todayjayfeb15.mp3)
I wrote the song myself. I want to perform it at a coffeehouse.
Also, in 1 week I will be participating in a masterclass put on by my voice teacher. There will be about 10 of us, and we will be evaluated and coached for 45 minutes each by a professional my teacher is bringing in. So this is the first time my new voice will be put to the test. The professional has been made aware that I'm on testosterone. His response was "Oh, that will be interesting!"
Would like to hear what people think.
Quote from: Jeh on February 15, 2012, 09:33:48 PM
I've posted a few singing clips, and here's another one. This is my 10 months (plus a week) recording.
http://www.jayjacksononline.com/todayjayfeb15.mp3 (http://www.jayjacksononline.com/todayjayfeb15.mp3)
You still sound really nasally to me, but regardless, I wish you the best of your luck.
I can tell that you're capable of having a nice voice, but I honestly do hope they reevaluate your understanding of yourself as a baritone in the class you take, because I am not hearing it. Your voice is actually incredibly high in the male range for singing range.
Ok, at first I thought JasonRX might be being abit harsh saying Jeh that your voice is "incredibly high in the male range" etc, but after listening to your song, I actually have to agree. Im sure, T will continue to lower your voice, but at the moment your singing voice isnt at a stage where I would class it as within the range of your average male.
I hope though, that you enjoy your masterclass and that you will someday soon be performing your songs in coffeehouses!
Is it you playing the piano also?
I agree with Jason and Make It Good. Your voice is high. I checked out the pre T clips on your site. Wow your voice has changed a lot. You def could sing really well. I think you need to give yourself time to let your new voice develop and then grow into it. It sounds nasaley and off, like your voice is trying to sing from where it used to or something. Lay on your back and put your head back and your hand on your chest. Speak untill you feel your chest vibrate and it sounds like your voice is coming from there. Do that untill you feel the vibrations strongly. Then you'll know you hit the right spot on your vocal chords.
Quote from: Jeh on February 15, 2012, 09:33:48 PM
I've posted a few singing clips, and here's another one. This is my 10 months (plus a week) recording.
http://www.jayjacksononline.com/todayjayfeb15.mp3 (http://www.jayjacksononline.com/todayjayfeb15.mp3)
I agree that it's not in the male range, although it does have a masculine undertone. Part of the problem might be that you're singing from your throat as opposed to chest -- but I'm not a singer so I don't know much about these things.
Jeh, you seem to be having the same problem a lot of guys do when they get on T. It's like you expected the T to do everything and just right away give you a male singing voice. It sounds to me like you're still singing according to your female voice training. Maybe you need to hook up with a different voice teacher. One that can specifically teach you to not sound stereotypically gay, since I know you're straight. I hope that didn't sound offensive, because I really want to help.
I fell for the 3D ruse! You got me hook, line, and sinker! Hugs, Devlyn
Quote from: jossef-ftm on February 17, 2012, 11:40:15 AM
i started doing some voice exercise b4 3 week to make my woice deeper i hope it works this is an other vis of me singing what u think ?
16022012579.mp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl1kOA1gYQY#)
and thank u.
peace.
you pass imo. (the song doesn't really seem to work well with your voice but that's an issue many of us have pre-T)
This is me singing.
The chirbit description pretty much sums up what I think it sounds like.
Sort of funny, really. Lmao.
http://chirb.it/qn3cxI (http://chirb.it/qn3cxI)
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I pass 100% now but how old do y'all think I am? I haven't been getting carded as much lately so it's nice to know I'm getting read for my age.
And since everybody else is here's a link to my singing voice 14 months on T.
http://damn-dirty-australopithecines.tumblr.com/post/17162513227/singing-voice-14months-on-t-teenage-dream (http://damn-dirty-australopithecines.tumblr.com/post/17162513227/singing-voice-14months-on-t-teenage-dream)
Quote from: DylanAntonio on February 17, 2012, 10:15:17 PM
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I pass 100% now but how old do y'all think I am? I haven't been getting carded as much lately so it's nice to know I'm getting read for my age.
You look about 18-20 to me.
:3
I saw that on your blog it says you're 21 though and I can imagine that you could pass for that age without question.
Like, I mean, if you told me you were 21, I probably wouldn't question it.
>_<
Do I pass?
Some days I think I do, and other days I dont.
I'd love to hear someone elses opinion though :)
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I'd love to cut my hair quite a bit shorter too, but every time I've tried it hasn't helped me pass at all haha.
Quote from: jossef-ftm on February 17, 2012, 11:40:15 AM
i started doing some voice exercise b4 3 week to make my woice deeper i hope it works this is an other vis of me singing what u think ?
and thank u.
peace.
You sound like a dude trying to sing high.
lol how did you manage that while trying to sound low?
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I think this is the first high-definition photo of me on Susan's..
I know I don't pass 100%, and I think I'm in the chub-face stage of T now. :D
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I think this is the first high-definition photo of me on Susan's..
I know I don't pass 100%, and I think I'm in the chub-face stage of T now. :D
You kinda look sweaty haha, but pass imo.
You're cute too, congrats. ^^
Thanks Joey :)
yeah, here in Aussieland it's pretty humid even at night time right now. Plus having the extra layer from a binder doesn't help. :(
Been a while since I posted here. Pass? No pass? (You shall not pass...?) Age guesses?
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Coyote - I do think you pass here. I think you have the potential not to pass aswell, but your style seems to fit together in a way where the length of your hair doesnt prevent you from passing.
You do look quite young though, 16ish Id say.
Coyote - pass. totally. your style reminds me of metal kids in high school. I'd say you're no older than 18...maybe 19.
What the hell, it's been awhile.
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It's been over 10 months on T for me. I don't think I look that different, but the changes have been significant enough, I never get misgendered anymore, but I think my voice helps me out there too because I'm still fairly andro looking. I could use a haircut though. XD
Thanks for the feedback, guys. Most people put me at about 14 in person, so I'll gladly take 16-19. My height is likely a factor IRL. I am into metal, so looking like a metal kid is understandable. :D
Bahzi, you get a full pass from me. I remember some of your older photos. The changes are slight, but they make a big difference accumulatively. I thought you were passing well before, but I definitely see further improvement in this pic.
Quote from: Seamus on February 17, 2012, 11:15:17 PM
Do I pass?
Some days I think I do, and other days I dont.
I'd love to hear someone elses opinion though :)
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I'd love to cut my hair quite a bit shorter too, but every time I've tried it hasn't helped me pass at all haha.
Seamus, you look like a teenage guy in this photo IMO. Pass!
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This is my friend on the left and me on the right. I'm acting like a dork, but it's a recent pic.
preston: looks like u pretty much pass. wudnt rly question it in a bathroom or nuthin. its good cuz guys bathrooms r mad easy 2 pass in cuz no1 looks round nd gives a ->-bleeped-<- or nuthin. jus a random thought haha
Quote from: Seamus on February 17, 2012, 11:15:17 PM
Do I pass?
Some days I think I do, and other days I dont.
I'd love to hear someone elses opinion though :)
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I'd love to cut my hair quite a bit shorter too, but every time I've tried it hasn't helped me pass at all haha.
Your long hair doesn't get in the way. 100% pass to me!
Quote from: slytherin on February 20, 2012, 02:48:15 PM
I've been passing 100% recently which is cool because I'm pre-t really short and have a high voice and what not but I feel really insecure at the moment like I feel I pass in a picture then re-look at it and pick out everything that doesn't pass, which is almost everything... I'm passing to everyone else at the moment but to myself I just look hideously girly but yeah I need other people's opinions I guess. What makes me look feminine?
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Pass.
I stared at the photo for a minute and the only thing that comes off as feminine is your clear, soft looking complexion.
I think that's a good thing though..
Slytherin: you pass. you look really young but it's definitely no question you're male.
slytherin: i think you pass more in your avatar pic, very handsome :)
Quote from: Preston on February 20, 2012, 03:22:35 PM
slytherin: i think you pass more in your avatar pic, very handsome :)
ah cheers! back at u!
@JoeyD haha it's just the webcam I think, wish my skin was like that but I'm actually quite spotty
Pass 100%
I can't see a single thing that's feminine looking.
slytherin: pass but u look mad yung
First time really dressing up, never really had a reason to before. But I had a Valentines date with my girlfriend. I was wondering how my body shape looked in the dress clothes. I know the picture's kinda dark, sorry.
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Adam_: looks fine to me, very passable!
Quote from: coyote on February 19, 2012, 03:20:25 PM
Been a while since I posted here. Pass? No pass? (You shall not pass...?) Age guesses?
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You look like a dolphin! you have a fin!!! haha :D I think that you look good with long hair, and you pass to me 8)
Quote from: Osiris on February 13, 2012, 01:07:32 AM
Ok this might not actually be in 3D but the title is catcy you have to admit.
LOL... And silly me went out and bought 3-D glasses :laugh: Just kidding, you all look great guys :)
Quote from: Preston on February 20, 2012, 01:26:04 AM
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This is my friend on the left and me on the right. I'm acting like a dork, but it's a recent pic.
Yeah you pass easily appearance-wise. Voice can be a giveaway though if you're pre-T.
Also, you look like Benji Madden in your avatar. Thought it was him at first.
Quote from: harlee on February 21, 2012, 11:45:20 PM
You look like a dolphin! you have a fin!!! haha :D I think that you look good with long hair, and you pass to me 8)
That's one of my coyote ears sticking out. ;)
Slytherin, I don't see anything about you that looks feminine. The characteristics you might be interpreting as "feminine" are probably merely perceived as "youthful" to other people. Don't be too hard on yourself, man.
Adam, you look great. Your body shape wouldn't make me question you for a second.
Quote from: poptart on February 22, 2012, 03:14:00 AM
Also, you look like Benji Madden in your avatar. Thought it was him at first.
Thank you for that compliment!! I love Joel, however ;D
a non-self taken shot for once! figured that way it's a more natural honest pose i guess.. feedback please
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Pass ^
I think this is one of the first photos where you can see my shoulders getting noticeably bigger (not big in general, but bigger than they were :D)
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Sam, I would say pass for 13 or so
sam: pass but u look no older than like 13
hey guys umm plz be honest....do i pass?? :-\
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Quote from: ty.to.the.man on February 24, 2012, 06:06:41 PM
hey guys umm plz be honest....do i pass?? :-\
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You look really young here, but pass to me nonetheless.
Also, it's a really silly looking picture.
:P
jason: i used an effect so it was kinda a joke.... ;D
Been too nervous to post in here since, bluh bluh I feel I look too young or feminine.
I lean more non-binary, but prefer to be acknowledged as a male, so...
But here:
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Do I pass? If not, any tips on helping?
Total pass apollo, I would suggest cutting the sideburny parts of your hair shorter and square 'em off but even with the way they are now you look completely male to me.
Morgan, you're looking awesome dude.
Tyler, it's good to see some smiles on this thread. ;D
Quote from: Apollo on February 24, 2012, 08:22:50 PM
Been too nervous to post in here since, bluh bluh I feel I look too young or feminine.
I lean more non-binary, but prefer to be acknowledged as a male, so...
But here:
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Do I pass? If not, any tips on helping?
You do pass. Very young. But yeah. Anyway, I don't know if it's cause your sleeve rolled up or what but that looks like a female shirt because of how short the sleeve looks. Generally men's sleeves on shirts are much longer. Again I could be wrong but yeah. Looking great.
Quote from: GreenLantern on February 25, 2012, 10:58:46 AM
You do pass. Very young. But yeah. Anyway, I don't know if it's cause your sleeve rolled up or what but that looks like a female shirt because of how short the sleeve looks. Generally men's sleeves on shirts are much longer. Again I could be wrong but yeah. Looking great.
It actually is a women's shirt, I have the great misfortune to be the youngest in a family full of women and get nothing but hand me downs. I haven't had new clothes that I picked out myself since I was thirteen... Good eye though.
Might I ask how young?
So, I just got a brand new binder today. I've lost 35 lbs or so, and needed one really badly since mine are too big (might end up selling some, or looking to trade).
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I need a haircut and remind myself of this...
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So...should I wear looser shirts? The hair does need to be cut but I'm not really in a position to cut it right now. Still not being seen as male, but I am fitting into clothes I haven't worn since high school.
Thoughts?
Hey Nygeel looking good but I agree on the haircut and you should throw another layer over the shirt. Maybe a button up or polo.
Quote from: Kameron on February 25, 2012, 06:34:28 PM
Hey Nygeel looking good but I agree on the haircut and you should throw another layer over the shirt. Maybe a button up or polo.
agreed on the layering, it really helps even out bumps that undershirts show. at this point i think a short haircut would work really well for you, like as short on top as it is on the sides or something similar.
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Cut it.
looks great nygeel!
Hey Nygeel, I think you pass very nicely with the new haircut! Looking good!
Hey Jossef, pass for 16 imo. You always look like you're scowling tho, do you usually walk around like that? And what's the latest in your country? Do you have access to any supplements?
thanks for the reply kylexx and nothing new in my country but i start take some suppliments (for bodybuilders).
Quote from: jossef-ftm on February 28, 2012, 06:01:48 AM
hey guys whats up
new pix do i pass? and how old i look now?
and thank u.
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PEACE.
yea u pass, and u look really cute and manly looking for someone that hasnt started T yet. You look like your bout 17 or 18
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damn, complete pass, nero. i would never have guessed you're ftm. nice plugs too.
Quote from: Angelique1994 on February 28, 2012, 08:31:11 AM
yea u pass, and u look really cute and manly looking for someone that hasnt started T yet. You look like your bout 17 or 18
You commented something similar to this on the "Badass" thread.
Can you please stop double posting?
Hey guys! Everyone is looking pretty damn cool :)
Soooo...I did a reallllyyyy big thing the other day, after so long of feeling like I could never do this I decided to say, f*** it! got my hair cut short! :) So, went from my profile pic to this: http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/transaurasus/18447652522/1/tumblr_m04c18mJbc1rqdh5l (http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/transaurasus/18447652522/1/tumblr_m04c18mJbc1rqdh5l)
What do you guys reckon? Just curious as to how well I pass or not, and tips would be GREATY appreciated :)
Jack
Holy sh!t Jack! Haircut looks bomb bro, pass!!
The haircut looks great Jack!
Quote from: schism on February 28, 2012, 10:06:15 AM
damn, complete pass, nero. i would never have guessed you're ftm. nice plugs too.
ty, i could pass fairly well before t, but the voice gave me away, now... no question about it. and i bind only as tight as needed b/c of breathing issues oh and the plugs are 1/2 in
Quote from: neroandrew696 on February 28, 2012, 04:32:50 PM
ty, i could pass fairly well before t, but the voice gave me away, now... no question about it. and i bind only as tight as needed b/c of breathing issues oh and the plugs are 1/2 in
Dude. :D
Let's be plug buddies.
Lulz
Hello everyone! Been a long time since I posted.
Here is me now
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Do I pass?
deejayk: I'd say it'd depend mostly on your mannerisms in person. But I like your hair, it looks cool all mussed up like that.
I haven't been on here in forever. I put transition on hold to get my life together. But now that I've got full time work and my own apartment and health insurance I'm back to working on my gender issues.
This is me with Ruby and Rosie, my super epic pet rats.
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Badass? Lol probably not but pass?
Quote from: coyote on February 19, 2012, 03:20:25 PM
Been a while since I posted here. Pass? No pass? (You shall not pass...?) Age guesses?
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I definitely think that you'll be able to pass well in the future,
And I don't have a problem with your hair, but it does seem a little on the long side to be let loose like that.
Most guys I know with hair that long usually pull it back into a hair-tie,
Mind you, when they do this, it's usually a really low one, right at the base of your neck.
But I don't know if doing that would accentuate the feminine traits you do have...
Especially because most of the guys that I know with long hair like that also have facial hair.
Hey :)
Thanks Kyle, Logan & Casey, means alot :)
It's been weird since I've chopped my hair off, if I am passing to people more than I did before, then I'm definately thinking of taking a vow of silence, my voice is wayyyyyyy too high lol.
Quote from: _Jack_ on February 29, 2012, 04:16:13 PM
Hey :)
Thanks Kyle, Logan & Casey, means alot :)
It's been weird since I've chopped my hair off, if I am passing to people more than I did before, then I'm definately thinking of taking a vow of silence, my voice is wayyyyyyy too high lol.
I like your new hair a lot Jack. Meant to comment on it last night but forgot :/
Hey, cheers Andy :)
I feel so much more confident, and so much more like myself now...never been able to walk outside with my head held high before lol. Also had my first experience of women at work migrating around my hair and playing around with it. Weirdest thing ever. Although, now I'm not sure which public bathroom to use incase I get called a pervert if I go into the ladies or whatever... lol.
Jack: your picture with short hair wouldn't load for me before but now that your avatar is different I can see the short hair and wow what a difference. Looks great man. Also I always felt like not being able to go into the women's room was a good problem to have lol. I got chased out of one once, must've passed better than I thought.
Thanks Malcolm! :D
Lol, you got chased out? Wow, see that's what I'm mega worried about. About being chased out of the females and males lol. God, I wish there were more gender-neutral places to pee!!! Argh. lol.
Lol I was pretty proud that I passed that well but that's just me.
It's brilliant!!!! From your profile pic you look friggin awesome! You totally should be proud :)
Lol thanks man. I look about thirteen in real life but I appreciate the compliment.
Ok. Here's a voice test. I feel like my voice has gotten deeper lately but I'm not sure why. I'm not on T although I'm been taking DHEA on and off. I've also gotten a lot of new face hairs the past few months, which is weird... Anyway, last time I posted a voice test video, I was told I put too much inflection in my speech, which makes sense. So I've been trying to erradicate it lately which is much harder than it seems at first... Here's the new attempt. Sorry it's so dark, but I'm too lazy to go turn on the light and it's the voice that I'm really looking for here, not so much the appearance:
120229-191049.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqvJNzu1x0M#)
PS-- Don't worry about the weird facial expressions at the end. I just realized while I was making the video that I was doing some weird stuff with my eyebrows while I was talking (which I do a lot actually) and so at the end I was sort of mocking myself...
Here's the last one from almost a year ago for comparison's sake:
Voice Sample (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6wcRS1lkPA#)
deejayk: no pass for me sry. i think diff glasses wud help nd slightly shorter hair.
Devin: your voice passes though as that of a 10-12 yo boy. It doesn't sound like it's deepened, just like you are speaking more from the chest now as opposed to the old vid you posted.
I got pretty bored, so I figured I'd share my voice with you guys.
;D
http://chirb.it/H8Fwr0 (http://chirb.it/H8Fwr0)
Quote from: JasonRX on February 29, 2012, 10:06:13 PM
I got pretty bored, so I figured I'd share my voice with you guys.
;D
http://chirb.it/H8Fwr0 (http://chirb.it/H8Fwr0)
mumble, mumble, mumble.. i'm sorry, what?! haha the white noise is the background was louder than you! but i'm pretty sure whatever i could hear was distinctly male lol :)
Quote from: KyleXX on February 29, 2012, 10:17:43 PM
mumble, mumble, mumble.. i'm sorry, what?! haha the white noise is the background was louder than you! but i'm pretty sure whatever i could hear was distinctly male lol :)
Yeah, I couldn't talk very loud because people were sleeping, but you can also adjust the volume of the recording on Chirbit playback and after I did that, it was fine. There should be a way to adjust the volume next to the recording. I have really bad speakers built into my laptop and I could still hear what I was saying after that. >_< Oh well.
Looking good guys :)
I'm half posting because I want to be notified on the new thread, but I've also been working out a bit more recently and wondering how my passing ability's looking to you guys :)
I've just been referred to the gender identity clinic (I'm from the UK) so hopefully T will be in the next 6 few months fingers crossed! :)
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Any feed back appreciated, I'm currently not sure what to do with my hair..?
Cheers guys!
looking good man, i'd already say a total pass. you've got a masculine figure. as far as your hair goes, i would just get some product (i like this stuff http://www.superdrug.com/vo5/vo5-extreme-texturising-gum-75ml/invt/306975/ (http://www.superdrug.com/vo5/vo5-extreme-texturising-gum-75ml/invt/306975/) it goes on matte and you only need a tiny amount, like a 5p size finger scoop) tousle it through towel dry hair, gives a natural, messy look.
cheers schism, really appreciate the advice. I like the messy look so I'll give it a go. Looking awesome in your profile picture by the way, I'm jealous of your hair line!
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do I pass?
I think shorter bangs would help
Furt - I think you pass better in the second photo, it might just be the amount of jewelry in the first (not saying guys can't wear jewelry I think it just throws me off a bit) but you're looking on the right track man, and I like your cat :)
Andy - Did you mean me shorter bangs? I'd like shorter hair but I think it makes me face look more round and feminine.. at the same time though hair on the side can end up looking a bit like a bob..
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Quote from: Elliot on March 02, 2012, 06:53:04 PM
Andy - Did you mean me shorter bangs? I'd like shorter hair but I think it makes me face look more round and feminine.. at the same time though hair on the side can end up looking a bit like a bob..
Nah, I meant furt. Your hair looks great like it is.
Furt much better in those second set of pics. Especially the first, second, and last ones. You have really nice eyebrows too that are helping imo.
Furt, you have a very expressive face! I think you pass nicely!
Quote from: Elliot on March 02, 2012, 04:26:49 PM
Looking good guys :)
I'm half posting because I want to be notified on the new thread, but I've also been working out a bit more recently and wondering how my passing ability's looking to you guys :)
I've just been referred to the gender identity clinic (I'm from the UK) so hopefully T will be in the next 6 few months fingers crossed! :)
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Any feed back appreciated, I'm currently not sure what to do with my hair..?
Cheers guys!
Whered you get your pants? I want them and the belt
Elliot you pass fantastically in those pictures. You have a very masculine figure.
Furt I think you pass great in the first, second, and last pictures but the longer hair throws me off a bit in the others.
furt- one thing that really throws me off about your pictures is something that no one has nothered to say. But when you show your hands they seem extremely small and honestly were enough to keep me from even considering you pass like a guy in those pictures Of coure,ll if our hands ar really as small as they seem in those photos in real life, passing in real life may be a whole another problem unless you're incredibly short. This is only my opinion on that matter though. Also, did you used to have a different account in the past? I swear I've seen your pictures here before.
Quote from: JasonRX on March 02, 2012, 09:55:21 PM
furt- one thing that really throws me off about your pictures is something that no one has nothered to say. But when you show your hands they seem extremely small and honestly were enough to keep me from even considering you pass like a guy in those pictures Of coure,ll if our hands ar really as small as they seem in those photos in real life, passing in real life may be a whole another problem unless you're incredibly short. This is only my opinion on that matter though. Also, did you used to have a different account in the past? I swear I've seen your pictures here before.
Dude-- he's a little person.
Quote from: Devin87 on March 02, 2012, 10:00:09 PM
Dude-- he's a little person.
Oh. So that makes a lot more sense then. My apologies.
haha yeah I'm a little person alright I'm 22 and I have a 2 yr old daughter thats also a little person, and im married lol I actually take horrible pictures I look much better in person, I guess the reason I'm so limited in pictures is because I try to hid the fact I'm a little person... just use to my past being teased and what not, now that i've come out as trans I get even more hate mail on my facebook. but meh... and yeah I did have another account, I forgot the password and user lol
Hi Furt :icon_wave:
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furt the short hair really works for you dude.
Elliot I'm surprised you're not already on T, you look great.
Cheers guys, that's a great confidence boost :D furt you pass alot better in the second set of the photos, with shorter hair I wouldn't question you. I agree with Andy you're eyebrows really help.. nicely grown! :)
Stilsk - My jeans are from fatface, I'm not sure if you're out of the UK you'd have heard of them? I used to always buy baggy jeans in fear of showing my hips, but these days I buy straight at perhaps one extra waist size and they are much better! And the belt is from H&M, again that's a European company so I'm not sure if you'd find them, but I'm pretty sure you can buy there stuff online if not.
This in brown I think is the same belt:
http://www.hm.com/gb/product/66227?article=66227-C#article=66227-B (http://www.hm.com/gb/product/66227?article=66227-C#article=66227-B)
Here is the fatface jeans site:
http://www.fatface.com/men/denim/icat/mensdenim/ (http://www.fatface.com/men/denim/icat/mensdenim/)
hope that helps! :)
furt, in your first pic you don't pass, the second is kinda difficult to tell since it's from a myspace angle which distorts features and makes it difficult to judge. in the second set of pics you're passing well. i think you need to avoid bangs altogether, where you don't have them you're passing completely. sorry to hear you've been experiencing bullying, hopefully at susan's you'll feel welcome.
I'm new to this..
Other then cutting my hair and wearing clothes I'm actually comfortable in I haven't gone much further.
My problem is I look female. Very female
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^ even if i shaved my head I think I'd still look female. The only make up I wear is eyeliner because it's a personal thing, but it doesn't make much difference either way. (I'm also 5"4')
Sorry to ask, but does any one have advice? ???
if you want to look more male, then you'll need to stop wearing the makeup. some guys can get away with it, but you have very elfin features and the makeup accentuates this, which i think is the most feminising thing about what i see in this pic. shaving your head wouldn't help, it actually defines the skull which also has a feminising effect. your hair looks dyed blonde, if it's not and it's just an effect of the light then discard this advice, but i think you'd pass better with a natural colour- this very light platinum blonde look is quite feminine especially with that style. instead of letting bangs fall over your head, get a shorter cut and style it away from your forehead.
Furt - The short hair totally makes you look alot more male!
Elliot - I completely and utterly identify as a straight male but OMG you look damn hot! Without a doubt, you pass 100% as male. I'm also in UK, never considered fatface 'til you mentioned them! Totally gunna have a look on their site for some awesome jeans now lol.
Kyyn - Perhaps trying a darker hair colour? Also, as Schism mentioned above, definately try styling the bangs away from your forehead.
Yeah, the eyeliner is a personal thing from my teen years, but I guess I'll have to lose it..
This is my natural hair colour "Silver". My twin brother has the exact same colour too. I've tried dying it darker, but it grows fast and the regrowth almost makes me look more girly.
I've tried spiking it up, but it just seemed to make my eyes bigger. Debating growing it long to hide my face..
Thank you though. I've wanted to be a boy since I was really little but I think this is something I'll need to work on. If all else fail, I guess I can be a "pretty boy" lol
By the way: You guys all look so amazing!
Jack - Cheers buddy :D You're hair looks awesome by the way, a smooth move! And yeh check out fatface, they have some really cool comfy stuff these days
Kyyn - I agree with the others, I think darker hair and less makeup would help strengthen you're quite soft features. We have reasonably similar hair, it's just the colour that makes the difference I think, aswell as perhaps a slightly shorter fringe. I also think try clothes with a higher neckline, guys t-shirts tend to be tight around the neck rather than loose. I think you will have good potential though man, and don't be downhearted by being 5"4, one of my best mates is 5"2 and he can get any girl he wants! :)
Kyyn: I think a more masculine haircut with straight lines would help, get rid of the makeup, and the earrings.
Kyyn: I agree with what the others have said. While I am all for doing what makes you feel good, I don't think the eyeliner is doing you any favors in looking male. Also, I think taking a photo from a more straight-on angle would help for next time.
I'm still pretty early in the game, but this is where I'm at so far, just wanna know what you guys think.
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I have an arsenal of male clothing, so that's down, but I think my main problems are a round face since I have a serious case of the chubs (working on that, getting on a diet and exercise plan), and my hair, which I can't cut too short because I'm still in the closet on the whole thing and my family is pretty religious. One time one of my cousins shaved her head out of stress, and her parents set up a lesbian intervention (even though she wasn't one), so I'm pretty hesitant to cut it too short at this point without having the same happen to me. Any suggestions/examples for longish yet boyish? Or maybe shortish but girlish to pass in front of my family?
Any other suggestions?
I think the chin-length hair works on you. You make me think of Severus Snape (that's a good thing).
Thank you everyone. I'm not sure I want to get rid of my earrings and eyeliner because I love that kind of stuff - it's part of who I am... but I also know I'm not really a girl... I guess I'm still confused about a lot of things. Thank you for everything though!
Quote from: Vine on March 03, 2012, 04:51:32 PM
I'm still pretty early in the game, but this is where I'm at so far, just wanna know what you guys think.
I think, if i saw you in the street, I would think you were a guy :)
Handsome too! :D
i got a buzz cut even tho i hate how they look on me (dye was fading) so uh do i pass?
and how old do u guys think i look? i think imma grow my hair out a lot longer than usual.
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Quote from: Devin87 on March 03, 2012, 05:20:17 PM
I think the chin-length hair works on you. You make me think of Severus Snape (that's a good thing).
Haha, it's funny because that's not the first time I've been told that.
If I lose weight and gain a British accent I might consider him for cosplaying.
Quote from: Caseyyy on March 03, 2012, 08:24:23 PM
I agree! It's awesome. ;D
Quote from: Kyyn on March 03, 2012, 10:15:16 PM
I think, if i saw you in the street, I would think you were a guy :)
Handsome too! :D
Heh, thanks.
I was worried the hair looked a bit too feminine but if it's passable then I guess I could live with it for now. Really want to go for somethin' shorter in the future though once I get out of my family's stranglehold.
@Vine - dude I think you look fine with the hair, it works on you.
Quote from: jossef-ftm on March 04, 2012, 08:09:53 AM
new pix do i still pass? :/
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You're really handsome!
Yes, I would think you were male without a second thought!
First time posting in this thread ahhh D: I'm pre-everything, and seem to pass okay in public where people don't know me - but I still feel like my face is too feminine? I have thunder thighs and wide hips too :\ But I'm 5 foot 7 or so and at least my voice is fairly deep. Maybe on T I'll start to look more convincing. Sorry for the ugly cell phone cam quality.
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...Ignore my stoned expression, I haven't slept much as the end of the quarter at school approaches. *facepalm*
What do you guys think?
fatalerror - definite pass to me, looking great especially for being pre-t... your face looks subtly feminine, but not enough to read you as female
jossef - i'd say you still pass, your body shape is very male which helps given that your face is sort of androgynous at this point (just my opinion)
andy - looking great man
ty - definite pass, age 14 or 15
Fatalerror: you pass really well for being pre-t! You're haircut works especially well on you for some reason.
Fatalerror: Definite pass. Your face reminds me of Buster Posey.
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Here I am, 21 months on T. I'm not going to bother editing out my blemishes. They are part of the overall package. I'm having trouble with dry skin and plan to hit up the dermatologist about that soon.
A couple of questions: Do you think the facial hair is working for me? How old do you think I look?
I know I'm looking old then I use too and that's both good and bad.
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JasonRX - Just like your avatar, you pass well for me but not completely. I think it might be the softness around your mouth. It's hard to say but I'm confident you'll get there eventually.
fatalerror - In the faraway shots you pass fine. I wouldn't question you coming down a dark alley. In the headshot you don't pass to me, sorry.
Andy - You look good to me. It's hard to see you as anything else than a guy
ty.to.the.man - Your face passes, with your shirt on your body passes, the tone of your voice passes but I don't know if You pass. I somehow get the feeling that you are apologizing for every word that comes out of your mouth. You do not present with much certainty. You need to learn to exude confidence as if you are taking on the world. That's just my opinion but yes I would know instantly if you came up and talked to me like that. That sort of self assurance doesn't come overnight, I know, but it is something to work towards.
Quote from: Squirrel698 on March 05, 2012, 09:27:18 AM
JasonRX - I think it might be the softness around your mouth. It's hard to say, but I'm sure you'll get there eventually.
I'm not entirely sure what this means or why it would be a passing factor, but thank you for your opinion anyway. I honestly don't think I have trouble passing in public with my demeanor or my voice, so I've been doing alright for myself thus far. If you could explain this further, then I think it might be more helpful...I think the way you constructed your comment comes off more unnecessarily harsh than you intended it, especially with the note you end it on. =/
Also, if you're commenting on me editing out my blemishes, it's because the condition of my skin is sort of severe right now and it just doesn't look good. I don't consider dry flaky broken out skin all over the side of my cheeks and my face as something I'm necessarily proud of and I'm already being treated by a dermatologist by it, so I can do is wait. I actually posted a blog about what I've been experienced. It's calmed down since then, but it's still bad.
I'm not any sort of expert, I look at your picture and I say what I see. If I seem harsh, it's not what I intend in fact I was attempting to be encouraging. My opinion is based on my own experiences. It just so happens I know other people with a mouth like yours that happen to be feminine. I'm sure someone else who doesn't have my point of view wouldn't see it that way. You have to take an average when it comes to remarks and opinions on your looks. There are always a million different directions each observation comes from.
On T your entire face can seem to change so what you look like today is not forever. If your demeanor says you are male I'm sure people read you that way.
And I wasn't even thinking about your blemishes when I posted my pictures. I was only thinking about my own which obviously there are plenty of.
@squirrel I'd say you look 27 and a half. Not sure if that's a good thing for you!
Also I like the five o'clock look, it's the one I hope to rock of I can coax some more hair in and my face cleaning crap doesn't bleach it all :o
That's perfectly good, thank you Geek. Still a good deal younger than I actually am
Hair for Men can take care of any stray pale hairs you might end up with
@Squirrel: you look great, a perfect pass and handsome to boot, and I agree the five o' clock shadow looks nice on you. Based on the pictures I'd say you look about 24-25 to me.
@Squirrel698 Diggin the facial hair, it looks great on you; I'd say mid 20s.
I'm going to agree and say that you are looking rather handsome Squirrel and the beard shadow is working for you 8)
I'm going to guess 32 yr.s old :)
Squirrel-- you definitely don't look mid-20s to me. There's something about your face and possibly also your facial expression that looks almost 40s to me.
Thanks for the replies and compliments everyone! If I look world weary and wise beyond my years, Devin, I can only count that as a good thing. ;)
I am 32 so perfect guess V.M. Out in the world people seem to take me for about 25 or so.
Quote from: Squirrel698 on March 05, 2012, 06:17:47 PM
Thanks for the replies and compliments everyone! If I look world weary and wise beyond my years, Devin, I can only count that as a good thing. ;)
I am 32 so perfect guess V.M. Out in the world people seem to take me for about 25 or so.
Hee Hee, I cheated :) You do look mid 20's
squirrel: thanks for the feedback. no one has ever told me that before so thats a good thing for me to work on. thanks!
Quote from: Elliot on March 02, 2012, 04:26:49 PM
Looking good guys :)
I'm half posting because I want to be notified on the new thread, but I've also been working out a bit more recently and wondering how my passing ability's looking to you guys :)
I've just been referred to the gender identity clinic (I'm from the UK) so hopefully T will be in the next 6 few months fingers crossed! :)
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Any feed back appreciated, I'm currently not sure what to do with my hair..?
Cheers guys!
you pass 100% exactly the way u are. i'm insanely jealous. id say you look about, 15-17.
Squirrel698, you have come so far! It makes me super excited for T ;D You pass 100% and I think you look about 26!
Alright, I told you guys I'd post pics when I wore my suit, so here they are!
What do you think? Passing? If so, how old? I definitely don't think I look my age, but I'm pre-T.
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Konner, you pass, but you look about 15-16.
Quote from: Konnor on March 06, 2012, 06:53:30 PM
Alright, I told you guys I'd post pics when I wore my suit, so here they are!
What do you think? Passing? If so, how old? I definitely don't think I look my age, but I'm pre-T.
You pass in the second pic to me, but not the first. I'm not sure why that it is - perhaps it's the lighting or the angle of your face or both.
You look about 14-15 though.
Todd - London - Cheers man! It's great to get such positive feedback, and that's only a year younger than I am so being pre-T I'm not too bothered about looking young :)
Konnor - I think in both of those suit pictures you pass great! You do have a youthfull face like me but pre-T I don't think it's a big deal, I'd put you at about 16/17 if I met you based on people I know that age.
Squirrel is really damn good looking, I wish I had a man that looked like him. o.o
Quote from: Elliot on March 02, 2012, 04:26:49 PM
Looking good guys :)
I'm half posting because I want to be notified on the new thread, but I've also been working out a bit more recently and wondering how my passing ability's looking to you guys :)
I've just been referred to the gender identity clinic (I'm from the UK) so hopefully T will be in the next 6 few months fingers crossed! :)
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Any feed back appreciated, I'm currently not sure what to do with my hair..?
Cheers guys!
I'm so going out to buy those jeans next week :p But looking great.
Which GIC, Leeds? I've been having such a pain in the ass with the GP here for the referral.
Quote from: Squirrel698 on March 05, 2012, 09:27:18 AM
ty.to.the.man - Your face passes, with your shirt on your body passes, the tone of your voice passes but I don't know if You pass. I somehow get the feeling that you are apologizing for every word that comes out of your mouth. You do not present with much certainty. You need to learn to exude confidence as if you are taking on the world. That's just my opinion but yes I would know instantly if you came up and talked to me like that. That sort of self assurance doesn't come overnight, I know, but it is something to work towards.
He comes off as shy in the clip but a lot of younger guys around that age are (I'm going by his passing age -- 13-15). Some are more confident, but when you're a smaller guy with a softer voice it's difficult to exude confidence in the way you're saying. Like you said I'm sure he'll get there, but I don't think it's unusual for his age. I would be very surprised at him not passing in person at this point.
konnor - looking very handsome in the suit and passing well but you do look pretty young (16-17)
elliot - looking great, very natural pass... i'm jealous of your body type! and i wouldn't do anything with the hair, it fits your style well
Thanks guys! That shaves 5 years off my age if we go with the median age of 16. But I guess it could be worse. I'm cursed with stupid chipmunk cheeks that look really girly :( I've lost a bit of weight in hopes that losing weight will make them smaller, but no luck yet. I'm not sure if I'll go on T so I'd like to pass for closer to my age someday...oh well.
Quote from: Konnor on March 07, 2012, 04:51:50 PM
Thanks guys! That shaves 5 years off my age if we go with the median age of 16. But I guess it could be worse. I'm cursed with stupid chipmunk cheeks that look really girly :( I've lost a bit of weight in hopes that losing weight will make them smaller, but no luck yet. I'm not sure if I'll go on T so I'd like to pass for closer to my age someday...oh well.
From what I've seen, most guys don't pass as their age unless they go on testosterone, especially as they get older. The guys who can are incredibly lucky to pass without it and even if they pass visually, their voice may not pass entirely. I only know a handful of guys who could pass at all angles without starting HRT, but nonetheless, I wish you the best of luck whatever path you may choose, Konnor.
Yeah, I kind of figured as much. I guess for now, passing at all is good enough. Thanks for the help Jason!
Quote from: Elliot on March 07, 2012, 10:50:49 AM
Todd - London - Cheers man! It's great to get such positive feedback, and that's only a year younger than I am so being pre-T I'm not too bothered about looking young :)
im 21 and i get aged at 14-17 all the time in person. lol. so i know exactly how it feels.
Quote from: Andy8715 on March 07, 2012, 11:12:49 PM
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How old do I look?
To me, anywhere between 16-23 would be believable.
Quote from: JasonRX on March 07, 2012, 11:15:24 PM
To me, anywhere between 16-23 would be believable.
I agree, depending on the kind of interaction, how you dress and present yourself, etc. i could peg you as an older teen or young adult
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How old do I look?
you look extremely similar to my ex's little brother. based on the last time i saw him and how you remind me of him, you look about 15-17 in that pic. but i've also seen a full body pic of you before in a bar or something, and you looked about 21-23. so id give a 15-23 range. which is kinda a big range, but it would all depend on meeting you in person to really be able to tell.
Pass? Age?
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So, this is how my hair usually looks:
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But I sometimes do this:
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Been letting my hair just grow out for 6 months as the stylists/barbers are too expensive for me lately.
I'm actually considering letting it grow really long and be a metalhead again :P
Do whatever you want with your hair, I think you pass quite well in the face and could probably pass no matter what you did with your hair.
Personally though, and this may be biased, but I like your hair when your bangs are down.
I would believe you were anywhere around 17-20
Quote from: Konnor on March 06, 2012, 06:53:30 PM
Alright, I told you guys I'd post pics when I wore my suit, so here they are!
O__O
You look like the guy I had a crush on for about 2 years.
Pass! ...though I may be biased
Everyone so far in the last two pages are adorable + pass.
Quote from: Wraith on March 08, 2012, 03:21:25 AM
Pass? Age?
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So, this is how my hair usually looks:
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But I sometimes do this:
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Been letting my hair just grow out for 6 months as the stylists/barbers are too expensive for me lately.
I'm actually considering letting it grow really long and be a metalhead again :P
you're really cute! Boyishly cute of course.
:D
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I feel really insecure posting this but does my body pass here? I'm not binding here and I don't think I have much problem passing in the chest area just I look really... curvy, I wore this today without binding and passed ok I think...
also just wondering because most times posting here people have told me I pass but look young... if I pass, how young do you think I look? oh and my skin's not great lately I know haha
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Quote from: Tazia of the Omineca on March 07, 2012, 12:23:02 PM
Squirrel is really damn good looking, I wish I had a man that looked like him. o.o
Why, thank you! :)
Solobear - Get down to fatface man! :) Here's the link to the place I've been referred to, http://www.leedspft.nhs.uk/our_services/gender_identity, (http://www.leedspft.nhs.uk/our_services/gender_identity,) I don't know that much about it yet though I'm afraid, except that there's a hella long waiting list.. But good to hear you're making progress :) Maybe we will be born T babies around the same time 8)
Slytherin - It's difficult to say about your body, from what you can see I'd say you pass fine but you need a front facing, body height shot, without your hands in your pockets to tell really. I think you look around 14/15 compared to people I know that age :)
Wraith - I'd say complete pass, you look around 16/17 I think :)
Andy - You look really good man, I'd think you were early 20's
Quote from: Squirrel698 on March 08, 2012, 01:27:52 PM
Why, thank you! :)
You are welcome. If i were older and your type... :U
slytherin: hard to tell in the full body since it kinda to the side. face passes but u look only bout 13 or 14
Quote from: Kyyn on March 08, 2012, 04:00:38 AM
O__O
You look like the guy I had a crush on for about 2 years.
Pass! ...though I may be biased
:D Thank you so much!! You're a cutie!
Andy, not much to add, you could pass for a wide range of ages but I'd probably say college aged.
Wraith, I like the bangs over your forehead as well, but you pass quite well both ways!
Slytherin, your body passes to me in that pic, I don't see any curves! And your face pic passes but you look pretty young, like no older than 15.
Jason, get back over to the badass thread :D you always look awesome and incredibly male.
Quote from: Konnor on March 08, 2012, 07:24:48 PM
:D Thank you so much!! You're a cutie!
Jason, get back over to the badass thread :D you always look awesome and incredibly male.
I might wait until my skin fully clears up to post my next picture, because every time I post a picture here, no one seems to pay much attention anymore. I think that's partially my fault, because I don't think I look all that different. Probably not too much to say. If I took a high quality picture, people could see my facial hair, but I'd still have to edit them right now...and to me, that's pretty darn lame.
Thank you though.
:)
Quote from: Wraith on March 08, 2012, 03:21:25 AM
Pass? Age?
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So, this is how my hair usually looks:
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But I sometimes do this:
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Been letting my hair just grow out for 6 months as the stylists/barbers are too expensive for me lately.
I'm actually considering letting it grow really long and be a metalhead again :P
100% pass. i would never even question whether you were a bio male or not. you look about 17-20.
Jason I think you pass, and you look pretty suave in those glasses ;) (always a sucker for glasses!)
From the front your jaw is looking squared! From the side the light is a bit ->-bleeped-<-ty, but still! Your plugs are massive dude!
Quote from: Kyyn on March 03, 2012, 10:21:23 AM
I'm new to this..
Other then cutting my hair and wearing clothes I'm actually comfortable in I haven't gone much further.
My problem is I look female. Very female
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^ even if i shaved my head I think I'd still look female. The only make up I wear is eyeliner because it's a personal thing, but it doesn't make much difference either way. (I'm also 5"4')
Sorry to ask, but does any one have advice? ???
I am a lot like you I look very female too...do you plan to eventually take T? thanks to this forum and youtube I have seen many many guys who were once very female looking like myself and T helped them to masculinize to the point that they looked very male :)...
augustfalcon: pass but u look like ur 11. idk how old u r but yeh u look like 11 or 12
Augustfalcon - I would actually say you do pass 100% to me, but you do look very young, around 12 - 13 Im afraid.
And although I cant really suggest any haircut as Im terrible for that sort of stuff, I do think your longer hair seems to help you pass better than what rough idea I get from what youre indicating with shorter hair.
But its still a complete pass :)
Yeah, people regularly thought I was 11-12 when they thought I was a girl too so I can only hope I age eventually...
Augustfalcon - You pass really well, you're the doppelganger of one of my family friends. I'd guess you were about 14 if I saw you, I don't know if you're from the UK but that hairstyle is what loads of people go for these days, kind of preppy. I think it suits you really well, keep it man!
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Dress clothes for my brother's orchestra concert. Any semblance of pass? I know I have tiny hands and a girly face... and my pants pockets stick out, that's not my hips lol.
Malcom , only thing I see that wouldn't pass is the fact your hips are larger than your shoulders and that's a pretty a typical body shape for a guy. And maybe the sh ape and how red our lips appear in those pictures.
Thanks Jason, I think my problems irl lie mostly with my narrow shoulders and my absolutely tiny waist. I can't ever wear t-shirts. But good to know I pass in pictures at least that's better than I thought!
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Got more new clothes that fit.
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Not sure if the shirt helps or not. I think it looks like I have no neck.
Assistance?
Quote from: Kyyn on March 03, 2012, 10:21:23 AM
I'm new to this..
Other then cutting my hair and wearing clothes I'm actually comfortable in I haven't gone much further.
My problem is I look female. Very female
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^ even if i shaved my head I think I'd still look female. The only make up I wear is eyeliner because it's a personal thing, but it doesn't make much difference either way. (I'm also 5"4')
Sorry to ask, but does any one have advice? ???
If you wear make up like that you're not gonna pass until you've been on T for a long time. There are some sacrifices you'll have to make if you wanna be read as male. I also agree with whoever said to dye your hair a natural, darker color.
Nygeel: Try unbuttoning the top button so the collar sits more open. Other than that I think its a great pattern on you, just busy enough to help hide anything you want hidden. Fits nice too.
Quote from: MalcolmAllen on March 15, 2012, 12:29:25 AM
Nygeel: Try unbuttoning the top button so the collar sits more open. Other than that I think its a great pattern on you, just busy enough to help hide anything you want hidden. Fits nice too.
It is unbuttoned.
I meant the next button down
Quote from: MalcolmAllen on March 15, 2012, 12:41:19 AM
I meant the next button down
That makes more sense. Next button down is an inch below my binder collar starts so I'll have to find a tight undershirt. Might work.
Quote from: MalcolmAllen on March 15, 2012, 12:29:25 AM
Nygeel: Try unbuttoning the top button so the collar sits more open. Other than that I think its a great pattern on you, just busy enough to help hide anything you want hidden. Fits nice too.
I second this. Maybe try wearing a shift underneath this one, like a white t-shirt and unbutton it a little more and see how it looks.
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Two buttons unbuttoned.
Looks much better Nygeel. The angle makes it a little hard to tell but seems to be better.
ik i dnt pass in this pic so jus ignore my face. i wonderin tho about my chest, i go to a camp for trans kids and i wud love to be able to sleep in a tanktop without havin to bind cuz i hate binding wile sleepin. so do u guys think its appropriate for my chest to look like this? i am tryin to lose weight to make it smaller nd ->-bleeped-<- so this isnt rly bout passing exactly.
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Ty: dude you pass really good, your face too. No worries. And if its a trans camp I definitely wouldn't worry about your chest like that. At worst it looks like moobs.
Ty, are you on hormone blockers? I think your chest looks fine! Its really small :)
I think you will be fine sleeping without binding. Your chest is very small, comparable to the moob look a lot of teen guys have, my brother being one of them. Plus since you go to a camp for trans kids no one should hassle you about it.
Ty, you pass fine. Like what was already said, you just look like you have some extra teen boy puppy fat. Have fun at camp!
thanks guys
harlee: yeah i will b goin on T and gettin top surgery in about a year mayb a lil less
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I know I have a bad habit of taking webcam shots but I have no idea where my proper camera is ???
How am I doing?
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I know I have a bad habit of taking webcam shots but I have no idea where my proper camera is ???
How am I doing?
You look pretty much the same to me, Morgan.
Perhaps a better quality shot would show more significant differences, but I really can't tell by the photo you've provided.
I'm pre everything. Just wanting to know how I was doing with passing and any advice anyone has. I'm including a before I started transitioning pic and then the last one is a current pic. Thanks!
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Thanks again.
Charlie, in your second pic, theres something abotu your mouth/cheek area that I think looks quite feminine, but not enough that I think would make people think youre not male, as with the way youre presenting, I think you pass.
And your last picture, I think you pass 100%, and Im surprised youre not on T. :)
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on March 15, 2012, 09:21:52 PM
ik i dnt pass in this pic so jus ignore my face. i wonderin tho about my chest, i go to a camp for trans kids and i wud love to be able to sleep in a tanktop without havin to bind cuz i hate binding wile sleepin. so do u guys think its appropriate for my chest to look like this? i am tryin to lose weight to make it smaller nd ->-bleeped-<- so this isnt rly bout passing exactly.
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<3 you're shaped like me.
I think you're fine, I also think you are attractive.
I don't feel all that great about myself at the moment, but I finally got put on the waiting list for the gender identity clinic, so will hopefully have hormones before the end of the year, score! Just need to do all that pesky coming out to my mother business first. This is me as I pretty much am all the time, though I don't like my hair this short. It grows so quickly I need it this length to give me more time between barber appointments :laugh: Oh, and the classic how old do I look question... I keep getting IDed everywhere lately.
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Probably because you look like a 16 year old boy.
Yeah you're passing perfectly as 15 or so. I immagine you're gonna be handsome on T. Hope your coming out goes well.
Oh and your cat avatar is friggin adorable, I *squee* every time I see it :P
You're a good lookin' guy Solobear, I think you pass rather well :) But yeah you do look like a teen and I agree that you will probably become even more handsome after you get on T 8)
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on March 15, 2012, 09:21:52 PM
ik i dnt pass in this pic so jus ignore my face. i wonderin tho about my chest, i go to a camp for trans kids and i wud love to be able to sleep in a tanktop without havin to bind cuz i hate binding wile sleepin. so do u guys think its appropriate for my chest to look like this? i am tryin to lose weight to make it smaller nd ->-bleeped-<- so this isnt rly bout passing exactly.
Your chest is super small, youll be laying down so itll be even smaller. You should be fine!
Solobear - I agree with the others, you pass really well (for about 15 though Id say).
Congrats on getting onto a waiting list!
I hope the whole, coming out to your Mum goes well :)
Also, I think with your starting point of how you look now, T will do wonders with you. Youll look much older (to your relief Im sure) in a short enough time.
Thanks people, nice to know I'll probably get to look my age (I'm 21) in the foreseeable future. I feel more confident about passing now though, boom.
And I know Wraith, I like him too XD
Charlie85 - I think you pass very well, I am surprised you are pre-T. Your eyebrows have a very bold thickness to them, which is excellent!
Solobear - You pass very well, but as the others have said, your age seems to be around the 15 area. Congratulations on making it onto the waiting list!
I feel I should post because I finally got my hair cut into a mohawk, and I am so excited with how it turned out! It is a bit thicker than a usual mohawk and for the most part I plan on keeping it unstyled and fairly long, because I've tried the spiking thing before and it drove me crazy because I got a bit of a compulsion for making it look just right. This is so much easier. Anyways I am curious to see whether or not I still pass. I think so, but sometimes I find I end up in the more androgynous category.
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Quote from: henri on March 18, 2012, 02:30:24 PM
Charlie85 - I think you pass very well, I am surprised you are pre-T. Your eyebrows have a very bold thickness to them, which is excellent!
Solobear - You pass very well, but as the others have said, your age seems to be around the 15 area. Congratulations on making it onto the waiting list!
I feel I should post because I finally got my hair cut into a mohawk, and I am so excited with how it turned out! It is a bit thicker than a usual mohawk and for the most part I plan on keeping it unstyled and fairly long, because I've tried the spiking thing before and it drove me crazy because I got a bit of a compulsion for making it look just right. This is so much easier. Anyways I am curious to see whether or not I still pass. I think so, but sometimes I find I end up in the more androgynous category.
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It really goes with you.
henri: pass easily
Quote from: Tazia of the Omineca on March 07, 2012, 12:23:02 PM
Squirrel is really damn good looking, I wish I had a man that looked like him. o.o
I concur...he's looking awesomer all the time. Any videos lately, Squirrel?
Hello all, new here!
Pre-t, pre-everything (but hoping to start T by the end of next month).
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Facebook link [for now] because I haven't got a place to upload photos on yet.
i'd have to say no pass but the hair color is really the only thing that throws me off
Quote from: Triss on March 19, 2012, 03:12:02 AM
Hello all, new here!
Pre-t, pre-everything (but hoping to start T by the end of next month).
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Facebook link [for now] because I haven't got a place to upload photos on yet.
I'd also say no pass for now :/
ok, here goes nothing..hey, I'm going to a course friend's wedding reception soon and ordered a few things online. The suit jacket and trousers arrived just now and I took a few pics as I'm not sure whether to go with them or not. tbh the pics aren't great because I hastily put everything on without properly taking care over shirt tucking etc. (that shirt is an old one i just put on to see how the jacket looks with a shirt). I also mayyy get a waistcoat for it (if i can find one thta vaguely matches) as I reckon the white needs broken up even with the tie?
ps. I know the sleeves need taken up :p but any other alterations you guys can see that need done? or reckon I should return to shop? and does the tie go with it? Also, to stay on topic, does my suited up figure pass as male? I don't want to look like a butch lesbian in a suit (no offence!) but I also can't do much about my overly curvy butt and hips in the short time between now and the wedding (I've started working out properly recently though)
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I think you look great, El Capitan. No worries!
Quote from: Konnor on March 20, 2012, 07:03:28 PM
I think you look great, El Capitan. No worries!
thanks dude
el capitan: the suit jacket looks kinda big on you, not jus the sleeves but also the front/back area. i cnt really see the pants but it seems like slightly looser fitting pants might go with the jacket better
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on March 20, 2012, 09:45:29 PM
el capitan: the suit jacket looks kinda big on you, not jus the sleeves but also the front/back area. i cnt really see the pants but it seems like slightly looser fitting pants might go with the jacket better
I agree. I'm pretty sure it's because of your shoulders. Men's suit jackets used to do that to me too.
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on March 20, 2012, 09:45:29 PM
el capitan: the suit jacket looks kinda big on you, not jus the sleeves but also the front/back area. i cnt really see the pants but it seems like slightly looser fitting pants might go with the jacket better
they were the trousers that came with the jacket. hmm I don't really see what you mean abpout it looking too big to be totally honest :P it doesn't feel very roomy at all lol and I have a feeling it would be too small if i went for the size below
Quote from: JasonRX on March 20, 2012, 09:46:57 PM
I agree. I'm pretty sure it's because of your shoulders. Men's suit jackets used to do that to me too.
hmm my shoulders fit into the suit shoulders though (I was actually chuffed with that when I first tried it on lol as many mens shirts don't sit near my shoulders very well at all) if that's what you mean?
I asked people I know aswell using those same photos and these are the first conflicting views so I'm pretty confused about what to do ie. return or alter slightly and keep heh ???
thanks for the views guys
What do you guys think? I pass everywhere and I'm totally Pre Everything
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Quote from: alixjunge336 on March 21, 2012, 05:10:54 PM
What do you guys think? I pass everywhere and I'm totally Pre Everything
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Wow pre-t?
You look all male to me, you're a total cutie! lol
Quote from: henri on March 18, 2012, 02:30:24 PM
Charlie85 - I think you pass very well, I am surprised you are pre-T. Your eyebrows have a very bold thickness to them, which is excellent!
Solobear - You pass very well, but as the others have said, your age seems to be around the 15 area. Congratulations on making it onto the waiting list!
I feel I should post because I finally got my hair cut into a mohawk, and I am so excited with how it turned out! It is a bit thicker than a usual mohawk and for the most part I plan on keeping it unstyled and fairly long, because I've tried the spiking thing before and it drove me crazy because I got a bit of a compulsion for making it look just right. This is so much easier. Anyways I am curious to see whether or not I still pass. I think so, but sometimes I find I end up in the more androgynous category.
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It really looks good on you man! You definitely pass to me. And since it's thicker than a usual mohawk, it makes you more unique!
By the way, this is my first post on Susan's as I'm still new to this site and the trans community in general. I'm J, hope to make new friends here (:
Quote from: alixjunge336 on March 21, 2012, 05:10:54 PM
What do you guys think? I pass everywhere and I'm totally Pre Everything
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I remember I saw your picture on blitz-ftm Tumblr just a few days ago and well I would say you totally pass dude! You look really great for a Pre-Everything!
Quote from: alixjunge336 on March 21, 2012, 05:10:54 PM
What do you guys think? I pass everywhere and I'm totally Pre Everything
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You look pretty cute, if you don't mind me saying >_>.
Alix: Pre-everything? :o You're amazing looking!
so my mom got me a different style of jeans than i usually get. not sure if i rly dig em im thinkin of gettin em one sz bigger at the waist but wat do u guys think comparing them to my normal baggy skinny jeans?
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hey Ty, yea your usual looks better, actually those jeans are wayy dope. the new one's look more butch female to me (gotta be honest). size up could help or maybe just a dif style altogether.
kyle: thx nd yah lookin at em nxt to eachothr deffinetly helps nd i see wat u mean
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sup guys
Hey Jude :) your face looks very male to me.
jude: yeah pass
so i kno ive bin postin a lot lately but anyways im goin to my breakdancin class soon (im stealth there) nd i hafta wear a hat cuz we do headpsins nd ->-bleeped-<- so do i pass? i dnt like this hat but i forgot my othr one at school :(
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/742/photoon20120329at1622.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/742/photoon20120329at1622.jpg)
Jude, you pass to me! You have a face shape similar to a kid I've seen at my school.
And Ty, you pass also. The hat doesn't do any damage, if I saw you I wouldn't question if you were male or not.
cool thanks guys :)
and ty, i think you'd still pass if you wore a ballerina's tutu dude
39 weeks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWoj7Nv9ydA#)
Made this awhile ago, at 39 weeks on T. How am I doing?
Jude, Sam and TVC: All of you definitely pass.
Quote from: tvc15 on March 30, 2012, 11:52:18 PM
39 weeks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWoj7Nv9ydA#)
Made this awhile ago, at 39 weeks on T. How am I doing?
Dang TVC! So jealous of your voice! I could never tell if I meet you in person I guess. Definitely pass!
tvc15 definite pass
This is the most recent pic I could find...what do you think?
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/425869_249955275095269_100002423960233_531184_1023782074_n.jpg (http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/425869_249955275095269_100002423960233_531184_1023782074_n.jpg)
(im the one in the middle)
J-Dot: Hm...your face reminds me a bit of that of a girl in my class...you honestly look a bit more androgynous to me, though at first glance you definitely seemed on the masculine side. Maybe I was just overanalyzing it?
Quote from: J Dot on April 01, 2012, 10:49:47 PM
This is the most recent pic I could find...what do you think?
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/425869_249955275095269_100002423960233_531184_1023782074_n.jpg (http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/425869_249955275095269_100002423960233_531184_1023782074_n.jpg)
(im the one in the middle)
You's looksa boy to me :icon_rockon:
jdot: no offense but i dnt think u pass. i think it mite b ur eyebrows nd the hat coverin ur forehead
J Dot, sorry bro but it's a def no pass for me. That pic looks pretty distinctly female. Could be the eyebrows and/or lips.
Space, IMO your top pic is the most passy
Quote from: spacerace on April 03, 2012, 05:52:29 AM
any chance at all of passing? I have no idea how old I look either.
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A bit off looking right now.
Hair is too groomed in the second and last photo.
You also have girl skin, if that makes any sense, once you get more rugged looking that'll help you pass better too.
Once you get on T, lower half of your face is gonna look bitchin'.
You'll get there :)
space you pass, but only as very young.
This is a bit of an odd one but im always REALLY self concious that my body doesnt pass. I really dont want to have to roast to death in hoodies like last year when summer comes, so what do you think?
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P.S sorry about the lighting, its an energy saving 'I dont actually light up the room' bulb.
@ -JR- I think those jeans are fine, your skinnyness deffo works to your advantage. Your hair in the first three would stop you from passing to me anyways. The last one I think makes you pass but im not sure cause of the angle.
Quote from: Tom on April 03, 2012, 02:05:07 PM
This is a bit of an odd one but im always REALLY self concious that my body doesnt pass. I really dont want to have to roast to death in hoodies like last year when summer comes, so what do you think?
I am kinda confused because you pass way better in the polo or whatever than in the hoodie. ;)
Quote from: Tom on April 03, 2012, 02:05:07 PM
This is a bit of an odd one but im always REALLY self concious that my body doesnt pass. I really dont want to have to roast to death in hoodies like last year when summer comes, so what do you think?
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P.S sorry about the lighting, its an energy saving 'I dont actually light up the room' bulb.
@ -JR- I think those jeans are fine, your skinnyness deffo works to your advantage. Your hair in the first three would stop you from passing to me anyways. The last one I think makes you pass but im not sure cause of the angle.
From the neck down you totally pass mate. I'm a bit envious lol.
Quote from: pretty on April 03, 2012, 03:10:36 PM
I am kinda confused because you pass way better in the polo or whatever than in the hoodie. ;)
oh....lol thats so annoying i've been wearing hoodies and coats for like 2 years because I thought I didn't pass in a t-shirt haha.
thanks though :)
@Malachite cheers buddy
Quote from: Tom on April 03, 2012, 03:20:26 PM
oh....lol thats so annoying i've been wearing hoodies and coats for like 2 years because I thought I didn't pass in a t-shirt haha.
thanks though :)
You pass wonderfully, I wouldn't worry about the hoodies this summer.
I was bored and I seem to always put up the exact same facial expression, so I made "Name That Emotion". My favorite one (the one you'll most often see me wearing) is the last one.
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JR - It doesnt look like you have any hips, so regarding body shape and your new jeans, its a definite pass.
Tom - That first picture is the best, when I first saw it I thought you looked 100% male, so no need to worry so much. Your final picture I think is your second best.
Devin - Nice bunch of emotions there! I actually think the 5th thinking/confused pose, you pass best in.
And I like how very happy you look in the smiley one, its always good to see happy faces :D
Quote from: Devin87 on April 03, 2012, 05:11:30 PM
I was bored and I seem to always put up the exact same facial expression, so I made "Name That Emotion". My favorite one (the one you'll most often see me wearing) is the last one.
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ok going from left to right starting on the top row.
sad - confused - shocked
happy - bemused? - chilled.
Quote from: Andy8715 on April 03, 2012, 04:54:41 PM
You pass wonderfully, I wouldn't worry about the hoodies this summer.
yeah maybe not haha thanks!
@ Make_it_Good - thanks I appreciate your comments
Quote from: spacerace on April 03, 2012, 05:52:29 AM
any chance at all of passing? I have no idea how old I look either.
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i think you pass really well in the first and last picture, as somewhere between the ages of 16 and 20.
Quote from: Devin87 on April 03, 2012, 05:11:30 PM
I was bored and I seem to always put up the exact same facial expression, so I made "Name That Emotion". My favorite one (the one you'll most often see me wearing) is the last one.
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:'( >:( :o ;D :-X ^-^
newer pants i got for my bday haha wat u guys think?
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Hey Ty, they look pretty wide (don't know what look you're going for) but I can't completely tell because they're so dark, but dark is a good thing because it's slimming. I personally hate when my jeans stick out too far from my thighs which they look like they might be doing for you but again I don't know what you like.
Quote from: Tom on April 03, 2012, 02:05:07 PM
This is a bit of an odd one but im always REALLY self concious that my body doesnt pass. I really dont want to have to roast to death in hoodies like last year when summer comes, so what do you think?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi42.tinypic.com%2Ffypyc8.jpg&hash=8406d1d9f7fde85ec25a96ea1ee354a0ab8e3ef4) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.tinypic.com%2Fbg4ewi.jpg&hash=5bdfc7bb180df3eed23cbd9236093814e3bc6620)
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Oh wow.
You look great, Tom.
:)
Quote from: Tom on April 03, 2012, 02:05:07 PM
This is a bit of an odd one but im always REALLY self concious that my body doesnt pass. I really dont want to have to roast to death in hoodies like last year when summer comes, so what do you think?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi42.tinypic.com%2Ffypyc8.jpg&hash=8406d1d9f7fde85ec25a96ea1ee354a0ab8e3ef4) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.tinypic.com%2Fbg4ewi.jpg&hash=5bdfc7bb180df3eed23cbd9236093814e3bc6620)
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P.S sorry about the lighting, its an energy saving 'I dont actually light up the room' bulb.
@ -JR- I think those jeans are fine, your skinnyness deffo works to your advantage. Your hair in the first three would stop you from passing to me anyways. The last one I think makes you pass but im not sure cause of the angle.
Like someone said before, you look better in the shirt...i expected you to look different for some reason lol. Anyway you look great :).
kyle: well i do hav big thighs but the jeans r meant to be baggy
Quote from: JasonRX on April 05, 2012, 12:11:28 PM
Oh wow.
You look great, Tom.
:)
Cheers pal =]
Quote from: DonnaTroy on April 05, 2012, 12:19:17 PM
Like someone said before, you look better in the shirt...i expected you to look different for some reason lol. Anyway you look great :).
haha now im all intrigued as to what you expected me to look like lol. Thankyou :laugh:
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on April 04, 2012, 04:40:30 PM
newer pants i got for my bday haha wat u guys think?
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I think they look alright personally, im not that bothered bowt the thigh thing though...i know some people are so depends if you are.
Quote from: Geek on April 03, 2012, 10:55:04 AM
Space, IMO your top pic is the most passy
Quote from: JoeyD on April 03, 2012, 10:57:40 AM
A bit off looking right now.
Hair is too groomed in the second and last photo.
You also have girl skin, if that makes any sense, once you get more rugged looking that'll help you pass better too.
Once you get on T, lower half of your face is gonna look bitchin'.
You'll get there :)
Quote from: Andy8715 on April 03, 2012, 11:06:48 AM
space you pass, but only as very young.
Quote from: emil on April 03, 2012, 05:55:39 PM
i think you pass really well in the first and last picture, as somewhere between the ages of 16 and 20.
thanks to you all for your comments. I guess I just need to wait for T, and probably get a different haircut.
@ JR - No those jeans don't show off your hips they actually look really good on you. :P
@ Tom - Dude, body wise you look like your average everyday male.
I guess when it comes to how we look we're are own worst enemy's. ;)
Quotehaha now im all intrigued as to what you expected me to look like lol. Thankyou
Thinner or more built (Logan's kinda of figure..if boys use that term) but you look great, totally male!!
So I'm losing a little weight, slowly but steadily. I think it's making me look a little more male. On a recent trip I took, the only people who called me she the entire time were people who saw my ID.
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PS-- I didn't pee my pants, that's an inconveniently placed shadow.
ok... so this is me now - (Pre-T)
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Honestly brothers - Am I at least a little more androgynous? -___-;
Still far from male... but work in progress.. least I can walk out of my house and feel more comfortable
Again - hair colour is natural, even my ->-bleeped-<-ing pubes are albino silver. - so no plans on dyeing darker.
Kyyn-- take out the earrings, get a slightly shorter haircut, put on a green and silver tie and you'd be a young Draco Malfoy.
Quote from: Devin87 on April 09, 2012, 08:56:05 AM
Kyyn-- take out the earrings, get a slightly shorter haircut, put on a green and silver tie and you'd be a young Draco Malfoy.
I'm gonna take that as a compliment haha.
Everyone in the last 3 pages passes so well! Devin, if I saw you in the street I wouldn't even question it. It'd be like "That's a guy. Yup, No doubt"! Jealous dude, that's awesome.
Sidenote: JR.... you are hot. Had to be said. ;D
most recent pic
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Quote from: anibioman on April 09, 2012, 12:08:55 PM
most recent pic
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Wow.
You pass really well.
I wish I could've looked that good before starting HRT.
xD
Quote from: anibioman on April 09, 2012, 12:08:55 PM
most recent pic
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That suit looks good on you.
You look like a young Ben Affleck, very cute. =P
Devin - if i saw you walking down the street, definite pass... if we had an interaction and your voice was on the high end, it could go either way
Kyyn - i agree completely with Devin on the Draco comment and you do appear more androgynous. but i would say your current hairstyle and earrings combined with your slight build work against you in terms of passing
anibioman - whoa dude, can't believe you're pre-t... you pass amazingly well. your body frame and even hands are so male. mind=blown haha
I gave myself a DIY haircut today. I think it helps square my jaw out a bit...and I'm at about a year and five months on T.
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Me pre-T (really 4 days on T)
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Compared to today
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Whatchyu think?
Nygeel, that looks really damn good on you. You did a great job.
Quote from: lexical on April 09, 2012, 06:50:04 PM
Kyyn - i agree completely with Devin on the Draco comment and you do appear more androgynous. but i would say your current hairstyle and earrings combined with your slight build work against you in terms of passing
Yeah, I hear that.
lol, ->-bleeped-<- thing is - I like being punk.
Normal hair and no earrings - just to fit into society's idea of being male?
Stuff that. Cismales don't put up with that.
Thanks for the andro comment! That seriously cheered me up :D. I think I can be happy with "...what the eff gender was that??" haha
Kyyn, you're definitely androgynous. You have a pretty masculine nose, but your eyes are feminine. You look really cool, I think :)
Devin - Id say you pass fine, I dont think Id think twice if I saw you out.
Kyyn - Im afraid to me, you look more on the feminine side than adrogynous. But as you said, a work in progress so im sure you will find more ways too help you look more androgynous that you still feel comfortable with. And being in the punk type of scene should help abit, as some guys look androgynous there anyway! :p
Anibioman - Passing very well there!
Nygeel - Id agree it is an improvement on the hair. (And Im sure much cheaper than going to the barbers!) I messily do my hair myself as I can never be bothered to pay £10 for someone to do it!
Nygeel - Yeah, you pass and your new hairstyle is better.
anibioman - pass, but it'd be better if the phone wasn't covering part of your face because facial bone structure is a huge part of passing and we can't entirely see it.
Devin87 - Pass. When I look at the first pic I see a young guy, early to mid teens, however I don't see a female at all.
Kyyn - Androgynous female is what I see, sorry. I would suggest a less punky haircut, something instead that is medium-length, shaggy and covers your eyebrows. Google for pics of Jeydon Wale for an example of the length I mean, although it doesn't have to be his style. I suggest this because your eyebrows and skull structure are not exactly masculine, so covering them would have people assume they are, if they take you as male. Plus the current hairstyle is commonly associated with punkish butch lesbians.
Even if what I'm suggesting isn't "your style", it'd help you pass better, so decide accordingly.
Quote from: -JR- on April 03, 2012, 01:52:04 PM
also got a haircut last week ;D
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am i getting any closer to passing?
I have the same hair cut. People say it doesn't help me pass but I don't really care. On you I think it looks good. You just look like a teenage guy.
i took these pics today
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Quote from: anibioman on April 13, 2012, 12:10:08 AM
here is a mostly unobstructed face pic but its from a couple of months ago (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi878.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fab349%2Fanibioman%2Fb6a00f8d.jpg&hash=9213a3ee5a9a58dba5fb7f86f11f02df7fe5b056)
Yup you pass to me. I would guess age 17-18.
Quote from: anibioman on April 13, 2012, 12:10:08 AM
i took these pics today
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Deffo pass.
Im liking the Dexter.
Quote from: anibioman on April 13, 2012, 12:10:08 AM
i took these pics today
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Were you blessed with extremely high testosterone and extremely low estrogen or something?
I hardly say this to anyone on here, but it's extremely hard for me to find anything feminine about your face.
You also have a nice strong jaw and chin; to be honest, I sort of wish it was mine.
xD
Quote from: -JR- on April 13, 2012, 10:07:27 AM
I had double holes and I just changed out some neon green leopard plugs for black metal see through plugs and took out my second piercings altogether...I liked them but most males don't have second holes pierced so I gave them up to hopefully make passing easier.
Not really related to passing, but what size plugs do you have?
I just love asking people for some reason. Lulz.
Also, it's weird that you bring up having a second hole in your lobe pierced, because I used to have one too, but I didn't take it out because of passing. I took it out because both of my holes were stretched and I wanted to make the first hole larger, but couldn't unless I let the second hole close. My cartilage is now the same gauge (6mm) that the second hole of my lobe was. Those holes are pretty much closed now, though I'm sure if I tried to fit some regular sized earrings in them I probably could, just for kicks and all that jazz. Unfortunately, I don't have any, so I can't put that speculation to the test.
xD
Quote from: -JR- on April 13, 2012, 10:47:29 AM
they are only a 00 right now but I want to go up to a 1/2. What size are your first holes now?
They are around 18mm-19mm. At least that's what I wear in them, so approximately 3/4".
:)
Quote from: JasonRX on April 13, 2012, 06:38:48 AM
Were you blessed with extremely high testosterone and extremely low estrogen or something?
I hardly say this to anyone on here, but it's extremely hard for me to find anything feminine about your face.
You also have a nice strong jaw and chin; to be honest, I sort of wish it was mine.
xD
well ill figure out whether or not i have high T when i see my endo for the first time cuz my doc wants me on blockers.
Quote from: anibioman on April 13, 2012, 04:39:21 PM
well ill figure out whether or not i have high T when i see my endo for the first time cuz my doc wants me on blockers.
Awesome, dude.
Keep me posted.
Quote from: -JR- on April 13, 2012, 08:24:05 PM
cool :), I doubt I'll ever go over a 1/2 only because my family hates them already.
Oh, my family never liked them either. xD
I finally decided to come over and take a look at how you guys are getting along. I have to say, there are some handsome young men here. Just picking a few names out here... Poptart, you pass. Love the T-shirt btw ^_^
Squirrel, I'm not much into guys but I'd make an exception for you.
Anibioman, you remind me of a younger version of Alfred Molina. Definitely pass as well.
JR, you look like you could be a Tokyo Hotel fan just hanging out. Young-looking, but still a pass.
Anderson404, you look a lot like a friend of mine before she transitioned.(mtf). So that's a resounding pass from me.
Coyote, you look like a metalhead. You'd fit in with the guys I used to hang out with.
Kyyn, you're a conundrum to me. You are right about your feminine features and I can't quite figure out what can be done to help you pass. All I can suggest is see what T does for you. I'll bet you'll be pretty cute once it's been in your system for a while.
I'd comment on more of you but I'm typing this all up from memory on my iPod. But from what I see, some of you have a little bit left to go before I would say 'pass'. And some of you pass pretty darned well. But you are all very good looking young men.
Quote from: Keaira on April 14, 2012, 03:37:53 AM
Kyyn, you're a conundrum to me. You are right about your feminine features and I can't quite figure out what can be done to help you pass. All I can suggest is see what T does for you. I'll bet you'll be pretty cute once it's been in your system for a while.
Yeah, the girly face is my nightmare. Plus I'm 5"4 and scrawny. T might help, but I'm not sure how much. I have a twin brother, and we look very similar, only difference is that he has a wider face, making him obviously a guy.
I guess im worried about just looking like a girl with a beard. That would suck.
thank you anyway though, i'd be happy just being a cute guy :D ...just got a long way to go
Quote from: Kyyn on April 14, 2012, 06:46:17 AM
Yeah, the girly face is my nightmare. Plus I'm 5"4 and scrawny. T might help, but I'm not sure how much. I have a twin brother, and we look very similar, only difference is that he has a wider face, making him obviously a guy.
I guess im worried about just looking like a girl with a beard. That would suck.
thank you anyway though, i'd be happy just being a cute guy :D ...just got a long way to go
I know plenty of short guys. I used to be one of them! I'm only an inch taller than you. :P
And you wont look like a girl with a beard. If a wider face is all that is separating you from your twin brother, then there's a good chance you'll look even more similar to him. Besides, once you are on T it will be easier for you bulk up a bit. Maybe work out a little to help define and sculpt. That will help you look less 'scrawny'. I don't think it will take too much work, but it wont be as simple as throwing on a baggy hoodie, and cutting your hair either. Anything worth having takes time and effort. Plus you've got plenty of support here. The guys here really support each other and seem pretty cool. It can get a bit catty and B*%$^& over on the girls side and I don't see any of that with you guys.
Kyyn, You'll be fine and cute. ^_^
Quote from: Keaira on April 14, 2012, 03:37:53 AM
I finally decided to come over and take a look at how you guys are getting along. I have to say, there are some handsome young men here. Just picking a few names out here... Poptart, you pass. Love the T-shirt btw ^_^
Haha, that was anibioman, not me. I didn't post my pic; I was quoting him.
No worries tho.
Quote from: poptart on April 14, 2012, 04:37:04 PM
Haha, that was anibioman, not me. I didn't post my pic; I was quoting him.
No worries tho.
Opps! sorry. As I said, I posted via my ipod.
Quote from: -JR- on April 13, 2012, 10:07:27 AM
thanks, when you say "teenage guy" what actual age would you say? just wondering...
Hmm ... maybe 15-16
got a new tank top tht i cnt bind wit. so pass no binding? also how old do i look? (ignore the facial expression)
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one more wher my back is straighter wit an even weirder facial expression (im very tired)
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hey Ty, people don't really pay attention to what i've got on under my tank top. the trick is to find one that at least stays hidden in the strap department, safer than no binding imo.
Ty, you do indeed pass without binding - am jealous! Very cool tank top, also!
Whoa, anibioman, you pass completely!
JR, you strike me as androgynous leaning towards the male end of the spectrum. Your hair is amazing. I'm attempting to grow mine longer and am getting impatient, lol.
Kyyn, you've also got an extremely cool androgynous thing goin' on - hard to tell from pictures, but if you present as and feel male I'd guess that would make you pass far more in person, when one could take in body language and the overall picture or... erm... dare I say 'vibe?' Yes. Yes, I dare say it. Vibe. :)
I'm going to bite the bullet and post a couple of pictures on here, lol. I've actually been passing more and more nowadays, though I can't think why - it might be because my hair's getting a bit shaggier, or possibly because I'm a bit more relaxed in myself now. I've started using men's public toilets and haven't as of yet had any trouble or stick - fingers crossed. In fact, it's been far less stress-inducing than using the women's.
Of course, I welcome feedback and passing tips of all kinds, though these pictures are really just as much an excuse to show off my Sonny Boy Williamson t-shirt and my new glasses, mwehehe.
The last one is my Dr. House styley outfit :D :o ::) I know, I know. That's not a cane. It's a Vileda Easymop. But it has an extra-effective wringing function. Can House's cane absorb the toughest of floor stains with one swipe? I think not. I win.
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ty, we would need a side view to be able to judge more accurately, but from what i've seen before of your chest you'd be fine with no binding. just make sure the armpit holes aren't too low so that people can't see the front of your chest thru them.
ive been passing 100% in public lately which is cool. my voice has been passing aswell which is a massive confidence boost bcos personally i dont feel it passes but im too scared to actually record it and listen to it.... but yaa i wanted opinions on here. constructive criticism is very welcome
also i wore this vest out today without binding or anything and passed. really shocked i didnt have a nip slip or something haha
also would i pass with short hair or would i just look like a dyke? sick of having long hair gah!!!
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sam: yeah i tested tht wit my ma and she sed its fine wich is good
slytherin: pass and short hair cud look good as long as its not too short
Clive, I could read you both ways honestly, but if you posted those pics anywhere and just said you were male I wouldn't think twice. First pic is the best IMO... and you look at least 18
Slytherin, if you want to cut your hair short you should go for it. Actually I think you would look more masculine with shorter hair, but you pass just fine as is
@Slytherin - I like your emo/scene kid hair. I think it looks cute. =P
Idk if you should cut it though. You still have soft facial features and cutting it really short would make it more noticeable but it's up to you. Honestly judging from the photo you look like a young androgynous male.
Quote from: slytherin on April 15, 2012, 04:50:28 PM
also would i pass with short hair or would i just look like a dyke? sick of having long hair gah!!!
you pass real well as is (and look hot and i like the hairstyle), but whether you can pull off short hair is hard to tell from the picture...depends on your eyebrows and forehead and such.
Hey guys I'm new here..
In public 60% of the time people usually mumble/avoid pronouns because they are unsure of what to use, the other 40% they use he/him (which I would obviously like to be 100% of the time.. but eh it'll happen someday I guess...)
I'm pre-op and pre-t, not out to barely anyone other than my best friends and girlfriend. I just want to know what you guys think.. do I pass in your opinion?
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Thanks guys, you all look wonderful :)
Quote from: worldsick on April 18, 2012, 03:37:48 PM
Hey guys I'm new here..
In public 60% of the time people usually mumble/avoid pronouns because they are unsure of what to use, the other 40% they use he/him (which I would obviously like to be 100% of the time.. but eh it'll happen someday I guess...)
I'm pre-op and pre-t, not out to barely anyone other than my best friends and girlfriend. I just want to know what you guys think.. do I pass in your opinion?
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Thanks guys, you all look wonderful :)
The second picture you definitely pass.
The other two I'm not sure.
I can tell your face is definitely going to a nice palate for HRT though.
:)
Quote from: MacKenzie on April 16, 2012, 11:05:07 PM
@Slytherin - I like your emo/scene kid hair. I think it looks cute. =P
Idk if you should cut it though. You still have soft facial features and cutting it really short would make it more noticeable but it's up to you. Honestly judging from the photo you look like a young androgynous male.
eh emo scene is deffo not the look im going for gross lol. kinda why i want a haircut bcos i dont want people 2 mistake me for an emo lmao!!! but thankyou
@worldsick not 100% sure..... i think id read you as male but i could see it going either way
if i didnt know you were trans and you told me you were male i wouldnt question it at all. probably get it a lot but you look like justin bieber haha
@Slytherin - Lmao sorry that's what it looks like to me, if you cut it don't go to short.
@Worldsick - You look good dude & I love the Led Zeppelin Stairway to Heaven poster in the background. :D
Quote from: worldsick on April 18, 2012, 03:37:48 PM
Hey guys I'm new here..
In public 60% of the time people usually mumble/avoid pronouns because they are unsure of what to use, the other 40% they use he/him (which I would obviously like to be 100% of the time.. but eh it'll happen someday I guess...)
I'm pre-op and pre-t, not out to barely anyone other than my best friends and girlfriend. I just want to know what you guys think.. do I pass in your opinion?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2F66lz52.jpg&hash=51622835226a38edf8312337dba73845f8b2e875)
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Thanks guys, you all look wonderful :)
I see a very handsome young guy. Though you pass in all of them to me, I think the first pic passes the most. One thing I noticed though -- your eyebrows look blocked off at the end, like you waxed them down the middle. If you're plucking/waxing them, it might help your passing to let them grow naturally.
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on April 15, 2012, 09:29:57 AM
got a new tank top tht i cnt bind wit. so pass no binding? also how old do i look? (ignore the facial expression)
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one more wher my back is straighter wit an even weirder facial expression (im very tired)
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You look like a cute 12 year old boy.
Quote from: slytherin on April 15, 2012, 04:50:28 PM
ive been passing 100% in public lately which is cool. my voice has been passing aswell which is a massive confidence boost bcos personally i dont feel it passes but im too scared to actually record it and listen to it.... but yaa i wanted opinions on here. constructive criticism is very welcome
also i wore this vest out today without binding or anything and passed. really shocked i didnt have a nip slip or something haha
also would i pass with short hair or would i just look like a dyke? sick of having long hair gah!!!
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I see a guy in that pic.
Quote from: worldsick on April 18, 2012, 03:37:48 PM
Hey guys I'm new here..
In public 60% of the time people usually mumble/avoid pronouns because they are unsure of what to use, the other 40% they use he/him (which I would obviously like to be 100% of the time.. but eh it'll happen someday I guess...)
I'm pre-op and pre-t, not out to barely anyone other than my best friends and girlfriend. I just want to know what you guys think.. do I pass in your opinion?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2F66lz52.jpg&hash=51622835226a38edf8312337dba73845f8b2e875)
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Thanks guys, you all look wonderful :)
I think you have a really good base to start with. I think you look pretty masculine for being pre-t. But you do look kinda metrosexual. Nothing wrong with that though.
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on April 15, 2012, 09:29:57 AM
got a new tank top tht i cnt bind wit. so pass no binding? also how old do i look? (ignore the facial expression)
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one more wher my back is straighter wit an even weirder facial expression (im very tired)
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without a side pic it's hard to tell if you pass without binding, but i'm inclined to say yes because you have a very masculine look in general. age-wise you haven't changed to me from your earlier posts... i'd say 13-16. how often do you pass in person? are you planning to go on T anytime soon? I think it'd do wonders for you given where you're already at now
@JenJen2011: thanks, im young but close enoough haha
@lexical: thanks! i checked the side view wit my mom and she sed it was fine lol. i pass 100% in public right now and im gettin surgery/T in about a year.
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on April 18, 2012, 05:48:03 PM
@JenJen2011: thanks, im young but close enoough haha
@lexical: thanks! i checked the side view wit my mom and she sed it was fine lol. i pass 100% in public right now and im gettin surgery/T in about a year.
Wow, that's so cool. I wish I could have started transition at that age!
thanks! tho i wish i got on blockers before puberty lol
Quote from: lexical on April 18, 2012, 05:23:36 PM
I see a very handsome young guy. Though you pass in all of them to me, I think the first pic passes the most. One thing I noticed though -- your eyebrows look blocked off at the end, like you waxed them down the middle. If you're plucking/waxing them, it might help your passing to let them grow naturally.
Well, I can tell you that they are filled in.
and a lighter color would look better worldsick x3
I think you're very qt tho.
condragulations.
@jasonrx I hope it will be haha! Thanks man.
@slytherin Thanks, and if I had a dollar for every time someone said I looked like Justin Bieber I'd be rich LOL. I'll take it as a compliment since I think he is very attractive :)
@mackenzie Thank you! :)
@lexical Thanks! The thing is my eyebrows don't grow at the ends naturally :(...or grow anywhere for that matter. I fill them in with an eyebrow pencil. Naturally they're super light, thin, and very feminine. But I will try to make them less blocky. Thanks again!
@jenjen2011 Thanks :) And I do consider myself to be metrosexual haha. I know it probably doesn't help with me with trying to pass but it's just who I am and I can't change it.
@joeyd Damn... I should make it less obvious HAHA I'll take the lighter colour into consideration :) Thank you!
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Quote from: sony on April 21, 2012, 04:23:26 AM
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Something about your face doesn't make you pass to me yet, unless you were about thirteen and pre-pubescent.
If you're pre-HRT, this is fine and an issue a lot of guys who post here have/had.
:)
@sony You'd pass to me!
Quote from: AJ on April 21, 2012, 01:17:11 PM
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I can't see what you've posted, more than likely because the link you provided doesn't work and says the content is unavailable, but I do like that you quoted Coyote Grace in your signature.
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Sony - Id say you do pass in that picture.
I reckon you pass too Sony ;D
Thank you all for your comments. Im still preT. Jason, what about my face? :) Is it the cheeckbones? I always think I have big cheekbones. Im trying to lose weight now because last year during summer kinda my chin & cheekbones changed a bit, so Im trying to do the same now.
Quote from: sony on April 21, 2012, 04:17:14 PM
Thank you all for your comments. Im still preT. Jason, what about my face? :) Is it the cheeckbones? I always think I have big cheekbones. Im trying to lose weight now because last year during summer kinda my chin & cheekbones changed a bit, so Im trying to do the same now.
To me, yeah, your cheeks stand out a bit, but I think what I noticed the most was that you also still have a really female like complexion. Most men's skin tends to looks slightly different from a females, but I'm also being picky and usually pay way too much attention to detail - so it may just be me. xD
Quote from: JR15 on April 21, 2012, 07:33:25 PM
Yo, help me out. Wanna know how well I pass pre t. I should be starting t soon in less than a week. I pass a good number of times for now.
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Here's a pic. Gimme some opinions on what you see. Let me know about facial features that make me look feminine, what haircut styles may help or if my hair now is hindering me from passing. Or anything along those lines.
Thanks.
If you had a more traditionally masculine looking haircut, I could see you passing right now - especially with how your neck looks.
But honestly, your hair throws me off a bit.
I guess that's because most men I see who have hair about the length and style that you have it typically look a lot more rugged than you do.
Quote from: JasonRX on April 21, 2012, 07:37:39 PM
If you had a more traditionally masculine looking haircut, I could see you passing right now - especially with how your neck looks.
But honestly, your hair throws me off a bit.
I guess that's because most men I see who have hair about the length and style that you have it typically look a lot more rugged than you do.
What kinda cut would you suggest? I dont want something too short. I think I may go for somethin like this...
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Quote from: JR15 on April 21, 2012, 07:41:40 PM
What kinda cut would you suggest? I dont want something too short. I think I may go for somethin like this...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.women-hairstyles.com%2Fimages%2Fmullet-hairstyle1.jpg&hash=e11dd3af2c41c6ac06baf7d76aab375e0373e2cb) But I agree my face isn't rugged enough.
If you had fringe, yeah, that may help you pass a bit more; well, at least to me.
You'd probably look more like a 16-18 year old teenage boy at the moment though, but most guys are okay for that in the time being as long as they are 40+ (and I'm assuming you're not).
Alright brother thanks for the help.
I've had people say I look more male with a hat on. I find that kind of odd. I think I look like a dork in hats.
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sony - definite pass to me
jr15 - i agree with Jason, a more traditionally male haircut would help your passing... at this point you don't pass to me
insideontheoutside - hmm, in that pic you don't pass to me and i agree that it's not your best look. the pics you've posted with you dressing more rocker/punk had you looking your best i think and you passed well
I haven't had much problems passing while not talking and I've even passed a few times after talking, I don't think I look particularly masculine, I'm not sure how I would describe myself, being fat has its benefits in terms of passing. Once I get rid of the weight I have no idea what to expect.
But weight loss/muscle building is on the too do list,
What do you guys think?
These are crappy mobile phone quality as I don't have a camera.
also ignore my messy bed behind me :laugh:
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So this summer I'm playing in a GLBT softball league. Nothing super serious, just for fun. I decided I should look the part, which led to these pants. I don't think I pass in them, atleast enough to not get mistaken for a lesbian. What do you guys think?
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Konnor, from that angle, you look like a boy with hips to me.
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I know that I look really girly, but is it possible that I could do something to at least do something to look like a pretty boy?
Quote from: Konnor on April 23, 2012, 06:38:25 PM
So this summer I'm playing in a GLBT softball league. Nothing super serious, just for fun. I decided I should look the part, which led to these pants. I don't think I pass in them, atleast enough to not get mistaken for a lesbian. What do you guys think?
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Yeah I'm sorry but I agree with your opinion on them. I don't think you pass in them at least not too me. They just define your hips a bit too much I think.
Quote from: Edge on April 23, 2012, 06:50:58 PM
Konnor, from that angle, you look like a boy with hips to me.
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I know that I look really girly, but is it possible that I could do something to at least do something to look like a pretty boy?
If I saw you on the street by your face alone I think I would guess you was a boy to be honest. The only girly thing I can pick out is your glasses, I don't know why but they look a bit girly too me.
Quote from: Edge on April 23, 2012, 06:50:58 PM
Konnor, from that angle, you look like a boy with hips to me.
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I know that I look really girly, but is it possible that I could do something to at least do something to look like a pretty boy?
You look male to me.
@Konnor I agree with Tom
Sorry about the horrible quality, my computer cam sucks but what do you guys think? Do I pass? :/
http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb361/Wall_Flower8/Snapshot_20120421_9.jpg
http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb361/Wall_Flower8/Snapshot_20120421.jpg
Quote from: Sasamu on April 23, 2012, 08:37:26 PM
Sorry about the horrible quality, my computer cam sucks but what do you guys think? Do I pass? :/
http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb361/Wall_Flower8/Snapshot_20120421_9.jpg
http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb361/Wall_Flower8/Snapshot_20120421.jpg
hey dude you've got a great chin (especially when T eventually works its wonders if thats what you're planning). you're lookin like a 13-15 year old male to me.
Quote from: Sasamu on April 23, 2012, 08:37:26 PM
Sorry about the horrible quality, my computer cam sucks but what do you guys think? Do I pass? :/
http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb361/Wall_Flower8/Snapshot_20120421_9.jpg
http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb361/Wall_Flower8/Snapshot_20120421.jpg
Yes.
so i thot i wud post a pic of me in a normal setting to see if i pass wen im not expectin a picture if tht makes any sense. but anyways im the dude on the far right up front. so do i pass? if not what can i do to help me?
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Quote from: ty.to.the.man on April 24, 2012, 04:51:08 PM
so i thot i wud post a pic of me in a normal setting to see if i pass wen im not expectin a picture if tht makes any sense. but anyways im the dude on the far right up front. so do i pass? if not what can i do to help me?
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For your age, Ty, definitely.
Thanks for the feedback guys, I appreciate it! Glad I asked here before I wore them lol.
@Edge, you're pretty borderline to me. I think it might be the glasses. Most guys I know have dark colored frames. That might be what's throwing me off. You are well on your way to pretty boy though!
@Sasamu, def pass. You look young, but a lot of us do pre-T. :)
@Ty, looking good bud!
Thank's I was worried I looked to girly because my sister kept saying I look like a girl.
@KyleXX
13-15 year old? Lol well atleast I wasn't mistaked for a 12 year old boy again.
@ty.to.the.man
You pass to me!
I'm so jealous of all of you!
However, I did recently buy a suit and I have to admit I look rather spiffy in it. Pictures will be posted soon!
Quote from: lexical on April 22, 2012, 03:46:10 PM
insideontheoutside - hmm, in that pic you don't pass to me and i agree that it's not your best look. the pics you've posted with you dressing more rocker/punk had you looking your best i think and you passed well
Thanks. Like I said I'm not really into wearing hats. Just odd how when I'm out with a hat people address me as male more often. Still trying to figure that one out!
Ok, I'm pre everything haha but just curious if I could possibly pass... What do you guys think? Sorry, I only have my profile pic...
demiguy: no pass for me sry. but maybe post a pic without the hat?
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on April 25, 2012, 05:34:36 PM
demiguy: no pass for me sry. but maybe post a pic without the hat?
Thanks for the fb. Is this any better?
http://s1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh572/Demiguy5/?action=view¤t=Nohat.jpg
Quote from: Demiguy on April 25, 2012, 05:46:39 PM
Thanks for the fb. Is this any better?
http://s1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh572/Demiguy5/?action=view¤t=Nohat.jpg
I think it's a pass :)
Quote from: Demiguy on April 25, 2012, 05:46:39 PM
Thanks for the fb. Is this any better?
http://s1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh572/Demiguy5/?action=view¤t=Nohat.jpg
You pass much better without a hat. :)
Thanks guys, I seriously appreciate it!
demiguy: pass bettr than the pic with the hat but still not a pass for me unless you were very young. im not sure what it is though...hmmm maybe your eyebrows? do you wax them?
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on April 25, 2012, 09:36:05 PM
demiguy: pass bettr than the pic with the hat but still not a pass for me unless you were very young. im not sure what it is though...hmmm maybe your eyebrows? do you wax them?
Maybe? I don't wax them but I shape them... Going to start letting that go. I'm VERY new to all this and I'm not even sure if I want to start on T, etc. Right now I'm just interested in passing, or at least causing confusion. :P Any other tips? I bind and I basically have no hips, so body shape is good.
demiguy: yeah i think if u stop shaping ur eyebrows that will help
Yeah alright I know my eyebrows lol but I just got a haircut so do you think it's better or no?
http://s1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh572/Demiguy5/?action=view¤t=Haircut.jpg
Quote from: Demiguy on April 26, 2012, 06:54:22 PM
Yeah alright I know my eyebrows lol but I just got a haircut so do you think it's better or no?
http://s1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh572/Demiguy5/?action=view¤t=Haircut.jpg
I'm sorry, but the way you look here...for some reason, you pass a lot less.
It might be a combination of the fact that your eyebrows are still very feminine looking, your hair is swept in a very feminine way, and you appear to be wearing a female oriented top (correct me here if I'm wrong).
Yeah, no pass for me.
=/
So I was just fiddling around today (sorry no pics) with an ACE bandage (yes I know thats a no no) and I asked my mom what she thought....she told me I looked like Justin Beiber (or however he spells his name).........
I think I'll go cry in the corner now.
And NO, a british hair cut is not a Beiber hair cut!!!
Quote from: Demiguy on April 26, 2012, 06:54:22 PM
Yeah alright I know my eyebrows lol but I just got a haircut so do you think it's better or no?
http://s1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh572/Demiguy5/?action=view¤t=Haircut.jpg
hate to say it dude but it seems your old hair (assuming your avatar) helped distract from your eyebrows better. no pass for me.
Quote from: Kitoro on April 22, 2012, 04:27:21 PM
I haven't had much problems passing while not talking and I've even passed a few times after talking, I don't think I look particularly masculine, I'm not sure how I would describe myself, being fat has its benefits in terms of passing. Once I get rid of the weight I have no idea what to expect.
But weight loss/muscle building is on the too do list,
What do you guys think?
These are crappy mobile phone quality as I don't have a camera.
also ignore my messy bed behind me :laugh:
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I'm bumping my own post how sad :laugh: ::)
Kitoro - Definite pass. (And dont worry, its not sad. Sometimes people gloss over things. Theres nothing wrong with trying to get feedback:p)
I think you pass, Kitoro.
Ok, so here's a link to a picture of me taken last summer, iv got longer hair now, there's others of me on my photo bucket page, will upload more soon enough
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee508/Lj094/04014136.jpg
Hi Kitoro! :)
My fully honest opinion:
If I saw you in real life... I would have trouble judging.
I'd probably wait for you to speak to judge...
Lj94 >> pass as a young bloke :)
Quote from: apple pie on April 28, 2012, 07:50:56 AM
My fully honest opinion:
If I saw you in real life... I would have trouble judging.
I'd probably wait for you to speak to judge...
I agree.
Yesterday at a wedding
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Quote from: sony on April 28, 2012, 10:45:46 AM
Yesterday at a wedding
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Yes.
Quote from: sony on April 28, 2012, 10:45:46 AM
Yesterday at a wedding
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Holy crapola.
I wish I looked that good in a suit.
D:
Quote from: sony on April 28, 2012, 10:45:46 AM
Yesterday at a wedding
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WOAH! very handsome. lucky bugger :p
got me jealous now man! :(
Quote from: sony on April 28, 2012, 10:45:46 AM
Yesterday at a wedding
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Are you sure that isn't a pic. of Emilio Estevez? :) Lookin' good
great pic sony, you pull off the sneakers/suit look very well... badass thread material for sure
Quote from: Konnor on April 23, 2012, 06:38:25 PM
So this summer I'm playing in a GLBT softball league. Nothing super serious, just for fun. I decided I should look the part, which led to these pants. I don't think I pass in them, atleast enough to not get mistaken for a lesbian. What do you guys think?
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You look almost identical to this one guy I used to talk to, his name was Jashwa.
It's uncanny.
Thanks Tazia, I like being compared to other guys :)
Demi- I agree, your old hair looked much better on you. Sucks to hear that after you cut it though :-\
Kitoro- pass for me!
LJ- pretty borderline in my opinion...could go either way!
Sony- you look awesome!!! Digging the suit and shoes, not everyone can pull that off!
Ok I've never posted a pic of me in underpants to the web so I apologize in advance but I'm feeling uber insecure the last few days about my shape (could be because I haven't been working out the last month). I know it's not the greatest pic - pretty hard to get a body shot of hips, etc. in the mirror and cutting off the flesh bags up above, but there you go. Does it look like I have really female hips? I'm still working on the ever-elusive toned stomach (I've kinda given up on the 6 pack) but I dunno, what do you guys think? Remember I don't have the benefit of extra T shots.
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Quote from: insideontheoutside on April 29, 2012, 01:27:58 PM
Ok I've never posted a pic of me in underpants to the web so I apologize in advance but I'm feeling uber insecure the last few days about my shape (could be because I haven't been working out the last month). I know it's not the greatest pic - pretty hard to get a body shot of hips, etc. in the mirror and cutting off the flesh bags up above, but there you go. Does it look like I have really female hips? I'm still working on the ever-elusive toned stomach (I've kinda given up on the 6 pack) but I dunno, what do you guys think? Remember I don't have the benefit of extra T shots.
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there's a little bit of hip but i think that has to do with the waist line on the underwear...maybe a slightly higher line would help hide it better
Quote from: sony on April 28, 2012, 10:45:46 AM
Yesterday at a wedding
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Great pic man you definately pass.
Inside, I def think you look good! My love handles stick out way farther above my waistband than yours do. I don't think you look female shaped.
Quote from: insideontheoutside on April 29, 2012, 01:27:58 PM
Ok I've never posted a pic of me in underpants to the web so I apologize in advance but I'm feeling uber insecure the last few days about my shape (could be because I haven't been working out the last month). I know it's not the greatest pic - pretty hard to get a body shot of hips, etc. in the mirror and cutting off the flesh bags up above, but there you go. Does it look like I have really female hips? I'm still working on the ever-elusive toned stomach (I've kinda given up on the 6 pack) but I dunno, what do you guys think? Remember I don't have the benefit of extra T shots.
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I don't have any experience with transitioning, so I apologize in advance for any opinions I have that seem uneducated.
From the point of view of a woman who is often very attracted to men, I would say 100% pass for me. If I saw this picture I would just assume you needed a higher waistband (Though those underwear are pretty cute :P)
Quote from: JayKyle on April 26, 2012, 07:17:32 PM
....she told me I looked like Justin Beiber (or however he spells his name).........
JayKyle, just remember there a thousands of women who would die to be with the Beibs. He gets a bad rap but haters are gonna hate lol I am sure you are more attractive than you give yourself credit for! ^-^
Quote from: LoveInMyEyes on April 29, 2012, 11:09:43 PM
JayKyle, just remember there a thousands of women who would die to be with the Beibs. He gets a bad rap but haters are gonna hate lol I am sure you are more attractive than you give yourself credit for! ^-^
aw thanks but he was a bit polar opposite of what i was going for lol
Thanks for the comments. Good points about the waistband hitting at a certain point too.
Got two really recent pics, let me know what you think. I'm really excited about the goatee considering I haven't had any Testosterone yet. Starting this month though! :D
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and
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You definitely pass
Sooooo much hair for no t!
Quote from: AJarrah on May 02, 2012, 12:29:04 AM
Got two really recent pics, let me know what you think. I'm really excited about the goatee considering I haven't had any Testosterone yet. Starting this month though! :D
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and
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I don't understand how that facial hair can be real if you haven't started HRT or you don't have unusually high testosterone levels.
I don't even have that much facial hair yet, and my facial hair growth is above average for someone at the point I'm at on testosterone.
I'm really confused here.
Sorry.
for some folks it's genetic. I know my friend could grow a decent goatee before he started T.
Quote from: JasonRX on May 02, 2012, 12:41:05 AM
I don't understand how that facial hair can be real if you haven't started HRT or you don't have unusually high testosterone levels.
I don't even have that much facial hair yet, and my facial hair growth is above average for someone at the point I'm at on testosterone.
I'm really confused here.
Sorry.
I probably do have high testosterone levels, my muscle forms in an oddly "male-looking" way, my voice isn't all that feminine, and as far as the facial hair that's literally the only place that it grows in. No higher, nowhere else on my face. My sideburns are a little lower than they used to be, but I've been shaving since I was in 7th grade. Started doing it just for the fun of it, and now I'm 20, it ended up doing what I wanted it to. Just took quite a few years.
Quote from: AJarrah on May 02, 2012, 12:46:41 AM
I probably do have high testosterone levels, my muscle forms in an oddly "male-looking" way, my voice isn't all that feminine, and as far as the facial hair that's literally the only place that it grows in. No higher, nowhere else on my face. My sideburns are a little lower than they used to be, but I've been shaving since I was in 7th grade. Started doing it just for the fun of it, and now I'm 20, it ended up doing what I wanted it to. Just took quite a few years.
Oh okay.
It's probably that an a combination of some form of hirsutism.
It's neat to be in position where something like that works for you.
How long did you not shave that area for it to grow as thick as that?
Quote from: AJarrah on May 02, 2012, 12:46:41 AM
I probably do have high testosterone levels, my muscle forms in an oddly "male-looking" way, my voice isn't all that feminine, and as far as the facial hair that's literally the only place that it grows in. No higher, nowhere else on my face. My sideburns are a little lower than they used to be, but I've been shaving since I was in 7th grade. Started doing it just for the fun of it, and now I'm 20, it ended up doing what I wanted it to. Just took quite a few years.
shaving doesn't make hair grow, more likely it was just the passage of time, since it's been probably 7 or so years since you were in the seventh grade.
Quote from: JasonRX on May 02, 2012, 12:50:30 AM
Oh okay.
It's probably that an a combination of some form of hirsutism.
It's neat to be in position where something like that works for you.
How long did you not shave that area for it to grow as thick as that?
It's been about three weeks since I shaved it, I did it last month too and it wasn't as wide before, this time around it seems to be growing in a little more on each side.
Not to mention I'm half Arab, we all seem to be naturally hairy :/ I've had more of a happy trail than most bio-males I know since I was probably 13 :l
Quote from: AJarrah on May 02, 2012, 12:55:48 AM
Not to mention I'm half Arab, we all seem to be naturally hairy :/ I've had more of a happy trail than most bio-males I know since I was probably 13 :l
Won't lie, I'm jealous. I'm practically a hairless albino.
Judging by my twin brother - even on T i'll be hard pressed to get a decent looking beard.
Looks awesome man. 110% pass. Good luck with T :D
Quote from: Kyyn on May 02, 2012, 01:46:07 AM
Won't lie, I'm jealous. I'm practically a hairless albino.
Judging by my twin brother - even on T i'll be hard pressed to get a decent looking beard.
Looks awesome man. 110% pass. Good luck with T :D
I second that. I'm really jealous too. I'm a hairless non-albino and will probably be lucky to get a few chin hairs. AJarrah you pass very well mate.
Wow, AJarrah, you pass amazingly. That facial hair is very impressive. Im closer to 3 years on T and cant even grow that much (it seems to be the only thing T wont do for me :p)
Good luck with starting T.
Thanks guys :)
The funniest part is, a lot of bio-females grow the mustache hair by accident and wax it right? I can grow a goatee but can not for the LIFE of me grow a mustache. Just does not happen. LOL
Quote from: insideontheoutside on April 29, 2012, 01:27:58 PM
Ok I've never posted a pic of me in underpants to the web so I apologize in advance but I'm feeling uber insecure the last few days about my shape (could be because I haven't been working out the last month). I know it's not the greatest pic - pretty hard to get a body shot of hips, etc. in the mirror and cutting off the flesh bags up above, but there you go. Does it look like I have really female hips? I'm still working on the ever-elusive toned stomach (I've kinda given up on the 6 pack) but I dunno, what do you guys think? Remember I don't have the benefit of extra T shots.
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I think you look good, I wouldnt worry about any hips :) Also what size is your packer? I want to be able to pack like that... mine always looks so big and its only 4 inches!!
Quote from: Malachite on May 02, 2012, 06:00:44 AM
I second that. I'm really jealous too. I'm a hairless non-albino and will probably be lucky to get a few chin hairs. AJarrah you pass very well mate.
I agree, hahaha. Though the males in my family all grow splotchy beards.
But you definitely pass, AJarrah!
@ insideontheoutside:
I think you look good. :) There's nothing wrong with your hips.
Quote from: -JR- on May 02, 2012, 01:14:03 PM
this is what i was thinking...its something in your genes that allows it...i know 3 cis females that can grow a mustache and long sideburns down to their jaw line and have to wax to get rid of it...your just lucky its to your benefit, i doubt it will take very long to get a full beard going once your on T
I wish my sideburns grew to my jawline :/ they go just below my ears right now but they used to be a lot shorter.
@AJarrah---Pass 150%. Lookin good man!
what do you guys think about me? I got my new binder and am feeling a bit more confident.
Hawk up:
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idr why im not wearing pants, but w/e:
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Hawk down:
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J Dot, you look like a hot hipster dude to me! Totally blending as cis there.
Quote from: Marion on May 04, 2012, 04:22:30 PM
J Dot, you look like a hot hipster dude to me! Totally blending as cis there.
xD My mind went to someone who likes J-Rock, lol
Anyway, I say you pass great, J Dot!
J Dot you look awesome dude :o
Got my new specs today
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from the Men's range for the first time. What do you reckon? It's a bit of a rubbish pose but I was tired :p
@J Dot i think you look great! Totally pass for me!
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So... My mum told me I looked handsome in this pic. As this is something she's never told me before, I was quite happy. Do I pass? I like my adam's apple and how it kind of shows, and the hair.
Pixieboy - I think in person, Im not sure what Id read you as, it could go either way, but Id say in the pic, its a very good one and you look like a young guy.
Quote from: PixieBoy on May 06, 2012, 06:08:24 AM
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So... My mum told me I looked handsome in this pic. As this is something she's never told me before, I was quite happy. Do I pass? I like my adam's apple and how it kind of shows, and the hair.
Dang. Dudely face is dudely.
hmm.. am I to take the no replies re. my glasses, as a hint?
:-\
PixieBoy, hey man lookin good, prob best pic i've seen of you (you shouls use it as ur avatar).
And El Capitan, I dunno what to tell you man you look than same as always and it's hard to tell someone if they pass when their face is squished like yours. The new glasses don't scream male to me or anything so yea, i dunno.
Quote from: PixieBoy on May 06, 2012, 06:08:24 AM
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So... My mum told me I looked handsome in this pic. As this is something she's never told me before, I was quite happy. Do I pass? I like my adam's apple and how it kind of shows, and the hair.
You definately pass mate.
Quote from: El Capitan on May 06, 2012, 06:49:03 PM
hmm.. am I to take the no replies re. my glasses, as a hint?
:-\
I like your face; it's a good face, and though you look more young than gendered, I'd believe you if you told me you were a cis boy. The glasses, however, I'm not too fond of, but that's just a personal choice; don't make too much of it.
Quote from: PixieBoy on May 06, 2012, 06:08:24 AM
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So... My mum told me I looked handsome in this pic. As this is something she's never told me before, I was quite happy. Do I pass? I like my adam's apple and how it kind of shows, and the hair.
I definitely think you pass in this pic. I think I would be interested to see how you look without the glasses, but more out of curiosity than to make you more or less a pass.
Your mom was right! Handsome! :D
topless tuesday!! and i got a new haircut
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Quote from: ty.to.the.man on May 08, 2012, 10:11:06 PM
topless tuesday!! and i got a new haircut
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nice hair cut! you pass in my book!
JayKyle: thanks man! i appreciate it
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on May 08, 2012, 10:11:06 PM
topless tuesday!! and i got a new haircut
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You skank!
Just kidding.
I've always thought you passed and was adorable at doing it, Ty.
:)
Quote from: El Capitan on May 05, 2012, 02:09:04 PM
J Dot you look awesome dude :o
Got my new specs today
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from the Men's range for the first time. What do you reckon? It's a bit of a rubbish pose but I was tired :p
El Capitan, I love those glasses! Of course, I might be slightly biased, lol, as I have the same ones :D
I look awful today, so here they are on a meerkat:
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I always think you pass really well - you look very surly and cool, lol 8)
Quote from: Clive on May 09, 2012, 06:28:43 AM
El Capitan, I love those glasses! Of course, I might be slightly biased, lol, as I have the same ones :D
I look awful today, so here they are on a meerkat:
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I always think you pass really well - you look very surly and cool, lol 8)
haha thanks man. They're Converse brand glasses from Vision Express, is that what your's are too? :laugh:
and was that last comment for me? :embarrassed: if so, thanks very much although I didn't relaise looking surly was a good thing lol
Quote from: Marion on May 07, 2012, 01:05:56 AM
I like your face; it's a good face, and though you look more young than gendered, I'd believe you if you told me you were a cis boy. The glasses, however, I'm not too fond of, but that's just a personal choice; don't make too much of it.
sorry, I missed this post until now. thanks for the good face comment, I always thought my face was too round and ofcourse soft :( I want well-defined masculine features dammit :p
Quote from: KyleXX on May 06, 2012, 07:43:49 PM
And El Capitan, I dunno what to tell you man you look than same as always and it's hard to tell someone if they pass when their face is squished like yours. The new glasses don't scream male to me or anything so yea, i dunno.
I also missed this, sorry. lol 'squished face' yeah, I guess it's a tad bit squished in that picture. The glasses don't scream female though, right? that's what I was worried about.
Quote from: El Capitan on May 09, 2012, 11:29:51 AM
haha thanks man. They're Converse brand glasses from Vision Express, is that what your's are too? :laugh:
and was that last comment for me? :embarrassed: if so, thanks very much although I didn't relaise looking surly was a good thing lol
Hmm, I'm not sure what brand mine are, lol - all I know is that I got them from Specsavers :D
Lol, yeah, the comment was for you, and totally, in my book, surly is good, mwehehe 8)
Quote from: Clive on May 09, 2012, 03:35:40 PM
Hmm, I'm not sure what brand mine are, lol - all I know is that I got them from Specsavers :D
Lol, yeah, the comment was for you, and totally, in my book, surly is good, mwehehe 8)
haha thanks very much
soooo I got my mop cut today, tad bit short around the sides and back but I have tried to jazz it up a bit
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I brought in this pic:
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:/
(tbf though, in my pics i have reverted back to flipping the fringe up but I will try this look once it's a bit longer)
I hope it grows a tiny bit before I go home for Summer next week. My Dad's going to say about me being 'scalped' by the hairdresser again heh.
El Capitan - The hair definitely suits you like that.
Quote from: Rossiter on May 12, 2012, 01:45:02 AM
El Capitan - actually I like the fringe better how you have it than in that example, but then, that's personal preference
also:
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pass/age? (I mean, ignoring the shirtlessness haha.) 3.5 weeks post-top surgery! I have no idea why my expression is so weird.
Dude Congrats! Your chest looks GREAT!!! Pass FASHO shirt off as 16-18 depending on other factors. In the pic (if that is facial hair i see) I think you could pass for 18. All of your results are top notch bro, yeaa! ;D
Quote from: Rossiter on May 12, 2012, 01:45:02 AM
El Capitan - actually I like the fringe better how you have it than in that example, but then, that's personal preference
also:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FzifSi.jpg&hash=82cd94df3a223da4f7fbc23af24e87e4f1baf0f8)
pass/age? (I mean, ignoring the shirtlessness haha.) 3.5 weeks post-top surgery! I have no idea why my expression is so weird.
I'd believe you were in your 20s man. What surgeon did you go to? LOOKS GREAT
Thanks guys! And I'm 19, so maybe I am finally starting to look closer to my age range? (with both parents being the type who were mistaken for like 14 while in their 20s, that has been an annoyance for all their children as well...) and yeah, I'm starting to get facial hair that is actually visible, so that ought to help.
I went to Medalie - I was pretty flat beforehand so the incisions are just around the outside third or so of the areola. I'm really pleased with it, although I am overly paranoid and consequently still waiting for something to go wrong, haha.
Quote from: Rossiter on May 12, 2012, 01:45:02 AM
El Capitan - actually I like the fringe better how you have it than in that example, but then, that's personal preference
also:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FzifSi.jpg&hash=82cd94df3a223da4f7fbc23af24e87e4f1baf0f8)
pass/age? (I mean, ignoring the shirtlessness haha.) 3.5 weeks post-top surgery! I have no idea why my expression is so weird.
Holy crap mate, you look good! your hair is how I'll have mine once it grows out a bit, I'm already doing the side swept fringe with mine now when it isn't stuck up.I'd say you pass for early 20's at least
so so jealous of that chest
Quote from: Make_It_Good on May 10, 2012, 05:45:23 PM
El Capitan - The hair definitely suits you like that.
thanks very much mate, I'm getting used to it being slightly different to how I wanted although I'm wearing the fringe down and to the side a bit now I feel like i look a bit like a Hitler Youth >:(
:p
Rossiter: HOLY CRAP!!!! in your last pic you posted you looked around 13-15 now you look like 18-21!!!! you look completely different!!!!
Rossiter - Amazing results, mate!! Your chest looks faultless, especially so early on in healing. You must be so pleased.
And to me you look around 17.
Quote from: Rossiter on May 12, 2012, 01:45:02 AM
El Capitan - actually I like the fringe better how you have it than in that example, but then, that's personal preference
also:
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pass/age? (I mean, ignoring the shirtlessness haha.) 3.5 weeks post-top surgery! I have no idea why my expression is so weird.
I've just realised who you remind me of.
Rob Schneider.
It's uncanny.
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Quote from: Sephirah on May 12, 2012, 07:26:37 PM
Rob Schneider.
Okay, I see it too now that you mention it, but much cuter. And totally pass, of course.
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I'm not quite sure why I'm posting here. I quite like my face, and I don't really care if my face passes if I can get my body to pass. I guess I just want to see if anyone can "read it as male" or if it takes work.
I am planning on going on T in grad school (~1 year or so.)
Quote from: Marion on May 12, 2012, 11:49:55 PM
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I'm not quite sure why I'm posting here. I quite like my face, and I don't really care if my face passes if I can get my body to pass. I guess I just want to see if anyone can "read it as male" or if it takes work.
I am planning on going on T in grad school (~1 year or so.)
except for the haircolor and style i think you pass just fine. though maybe if you styled your hair more into bangs, kinda like this, it might work as well:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ggYZdleucO0/TTLYqW5Je_I/AAAAAAAAAEo/H3MgU69DOYw/s1600/4.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ggYZdleucO0/TTLYqW5Je_I/AAAAAAAAAEo/H3MgU69DOYw/s1600/4.jpg)
marion -- no pass yet imo but you have major potential. if you're looking for passing tips, i'd start with getting your hair back to it's natural color and a short traditional guy's cut (not a faux hawk).
Haven't posted here in a while and I haven't been passing very well this month for some reason. My hair is a little bit shorter now, but what do you guys think?
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I don't post here often, I'm pretty quiet. I just cut off my hair. I passed okay with longer hair, but now I'm all nervous about my face.
Never sure if I should faux-hawk the hair or just keep it spiked evenly up top.
Also I can't seem to build muscle very well. :l
alright lets get a few things straight 1. i have lost about 30lb since this was taken 2. i am pre everything(but not for long haha) so let me know what ya think
do i pass
couldn't figure out how to post the pic so i'made it my avatar so look at
can anyone tell me exactlly how to post pictures
Are you guys trying out for the Chipendales? or is it one of those "Finally I can go topless" things?
Because I can see how you could enjoy that.
Justin: Since it's somewhat of a small picture I give you a tentative pass. You look like a bouncer. "If your name is not on the list, you're not getting in!"
Atreyu: Pass. Nice tattoo btw and spikey hair looks good on you. ^_^
Skakid: I see potential but right now, I have to say no. I think it's your facial shape and hair that's working against you in this case. It could also be the fact that you look a lot like my eldest Daughter's girlfriend to me though.
Marion: I still see a feminine you, BUT, I don't think it will be hard to change that. And I have to agree with Emil on all points. But you're cuter than Owen Wilson ;)
Rossiter: need I say it? Pass. Weird expression and all. :P
Just out of curiosity, What were you thinking about when you took the picture?
Quote from: Keaira on May 14, 2012, 04:48:04 AM
Are you guys trying out for the Chipendales? or is it one of those "Finally I can go topless" things?
Because I can see how you could enjoy that.
Justin: Since it's somewhat of a small picture I give you a tentative pass. You look like a bouncer. "If your name is not on the list, you're not getting in!"
Atreyu: Pass. Nice tattoo btw and spikey hair looks good on you. ^_^
Skakid: I see potential but right now, I have to say no. I think it's your facial shape and hair that's working against you in this case. It could also be the fact that you look a lot like my eldest Daughter's girlfriend to me though.
Marion: I still see a feminine you, BUT, I don't think it will be hard to change that. And I have to agree with Emil on all points. But you're cuter than Owen Wilson ;)
Rossiter: need I say it? Pass. Weird expression and all. :P
Just out of curiosity, What were you thinking about when you took the picture?
haha that's actually my job
Well you look every bit the part Justin! Very intimidating. :)
Haha, nice one, Keaira! I actually originally took the picture for a friend to show off the new hair just after getting out of the shower (I haven't had short hair since... 2007?) but I decided to post it here since I was too lazy to go take another one.
On the flipside, since my surgery a year and a half ago, the world and walls have seen a great deal more of my skin! Moreso now that the scars are almost gone. I wouldn't say it was an allowance thing, though. I find it silly that females can't go topless as well, after all. I don't see why moobs are okay but boobs aren't. But I digress. It's more of a 'finally I'm comfortable enough in my own skin that can appreciate being topless' feeling.
And thank you! I got the tat years ago and I think that the hair looks better this way, though I'm still getting used to the fact that I can't hide my face any more. The emo-styled face-hair bugged people the more I passed and was starting to be counter-productive. It's hard to let go of something that once helped you pass, even if it has started to have the opposite effect!
EDIT: Also, I'm terrible at telling others if they pass or not based on pictures alone. Sorry for not adding my input about the other faces here. Lots of handsome fellas here, though!
Quote from: Keaira on May 14, 2012, 05:44:32 AM
Well you look every bit the part Justin! Very intimidating. :)
thanks, the intimidation kinda wears off when you realise i'm only 5 feet 2 inches.
Quote from: Justin 21 on May 14, 2012, 06:28:59 AM
thanks, the intimidation kinda wears off when you realise i'm only 5 feet 2 inches.
Shhhh! Don't ruin it! :P
It's okay, I'm 5'5 myself. But you still look the part and I would hate to be thrown out by you.
Atreyu,
The short hair looks good on you. And I can understand the 'comfortable in my own skin' feeling. I'm a lot closer to feeling that way but it still eludes me. It wasn't long ago actually that I'd look in the mirror and tell myself, "I hate you!" every morning.
I don't get to dress as feminine as my Sister's here and part of that is because I'm always at work and in uniform and another part is that I don't see what others see about me. My arms are still pretty muscular and big, despite losing most of the strength in them, same with my legs. My voice to me sounds nerdy/masculine but everyone else says it's the opposite. I pass too, (Don't ask me how, lol) but that sense of comfort is still not quite there. ^_^
can anyone tell me exactly how to post pictures so i can put my picture up properly :)
There's an icon above the text box when you go to compose a new post with a picture of the Mona Lisa. When you check that, it'll give you two tags in brackets that say img. Put the url of the image you want to post between them.
If you're uploading a picture from your own computer, you have to use a hosting service like tinypic, imgur, etc.
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ah success finally
thanks Sephirah
Yep! Pass!
Yeah, you look like a dude from my German class last semester. :D
Quote from: Justin 21 on May 14, 2012, 10:56:53 PM
ah success finally
thanks Sephirah
No problem, hon. Definite pass in my book, too. <3 The sunglasses.
damn and I'm pre everything. now i really can't wait to start t :icon_cool:
the sunglasses were to hide how blodshot my eyes were cause i'd just come off work
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi117.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo52%2FAmandatheBlunt%2FPhotoon2012-04-27at19112.jpg&hash=6ebc5a6f21aebda73f843601dc1e48112ef14e9a) Just curious haven't started T yet
Quote from: Traivs on May 16, 2012, 01:15:11 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi117.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo52%2FAmandatheBlunt%2FPhotoon2012-04-27at19112.jpg&hash=6ebc5a6f21aebda73f843601dc1e48112ef14e9a) Just curious haven't started T yet
Yes
Traivs, def pass, but for 14/15 and cool hair bro mines a lot like it but longer on top.
yup you pass :)
sweet now just to figure out how to look my own age
Okay so i've been trying to loose a lot of weight and I know I don't have the most manly figure (sides the fact I was born with no breasts) but what do you guys think? Am I getting close? (besides the pink shorts lol)
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Oh and while I'm at it...anyone have any haircut suggestions?
http://s1148.photobucket.com/albums/o574/JaydenKyle117/ (http://s1148.photobucket.com/albums/o574/JaydenKyle117/)
I took several pics...maybe that'll help a bit lol
Sorry but no.
Quote from: Andy8715 on May 16, 2012, 07:59:46 PM
Sorry but no.
Andy, are you responding with "no" to all three of the questions he asked?
Quote from: JasonRX on May 16, 2012, 08:08:32 PM
Andy, are you responding with "no" to all three of the questions he asked?
I meant no he doesn't pass imo, sorry didn't see those other questions.
Quote from: JayKyle on May 16, 2012, 07:31:29 PM
Okay so i've been trying to loose a lot of weight and I know I don't have the most manly figure (sides the fact I was born with no breasts) but what do you guys think? Am I getting close? (besides the pink shorts lol)
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Oh and while I'm at it...anyone have any haircut suggestions?
these were my other questions
Yeah I scrolled back and saw them, no haircut advice.
Quote from: JayKyle on May 16, 2012, 07:31:29 PM
Okay so i've been trying to loose a lot of weight and I know I don't have the most manly figure (sides the fact I was born with no breasts) but what do you guys think? Am I getting close? (besides the pink shorts lol)
Oh and while I'm at it...anyone have any haircut suggestions?
First off, congrats on losing 40lbs - that alone is quite a feat.
:)
If you are not binding already, start. If you are small chested, you may not need an actual binder to do this - just perhaps a sports bra that is a couple of sizes tight may do the trick.
I don't know what type of look you're going for, but your hair would be less feminine if at least the back of it were shorter. I used to have hair something like that back in my high school days - except the sides were short too.
Yea sorry JayKyle but no pass in any pics. it's the pose, clothes, body, etc. Check out some 'how to pass' threads for pointers and maybe you'll have more luck.
As for the hair, shorter sides could def help.
Stay nerdy, my friends.
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Devin, you should be in the badass thread! 8)
JayKyle, your figure isn't passing for male at the moment. The only suggestion I can think of is to keep working at working out. The main issue I see is your hips, but that's a problem with the way fat distributes in an estrogen-dominated system and might not be able to be made completely masculine with working out alone. Also, I'm not sure if it is intentional, but your posture is more on the feminine side. As for your hair, it looks fine in that style but you might want to trim the back a bit as the others suggested.
I gave myself a haircut last night. Trying to do something that looks more professional and maybe (JUST MAYBE) makes people see me as male. I'm not sure if I did the job. Thoughts?
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Nygeel: i'd say pass but you look stereotypically gay, i dont mean that offensively but i mean feminine in a guy way. not sure how to explain that haha but do you get what i mean? feminine like chris colfer for example. get it? or should i explain further? haha sorry for the confusion
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on May 17, 2012, 11:13:19 AM
Nygeel: i'd say pass but you look stereotypically gay, i dont mean that offensively but i mean feminine in a guy way. not sure how to explain that haha but do you get what i mean? feminine like chris colfer for example. get it? or should i explain further? haha sorry for the confusion
I actually have to agree, though it's partially with how the hair is working with his face and that's totally out of control at this point, I think.
Quote from: henri on May 17, 2012, 10:46:35 AM
Devin, you should be in the badass thread! 8)
JayKyle, your figure isn't passing for male at the moment. The only suggestion I can think of is to keep working at working out. The main issue I see is your hips, but that's a problem with the way fat distributes in an estrogen-dominated system and might not be able to be made completely masculine with working out alone. Also, I'm not sure if it is intentional, but your posture is more on the feminine side. As for your hair, it looks fine in that style but you might want to trim the back a bit as the others suggested.
the hips seem to be the hardest to get at...the sad thing is the used to be worse lol. yeah i can see my posture is a bit feminie, oopsies. and thanks for the tips on the hair!
Hey JayKyle, i actually see a lot of passing potential but you don't seem to know how to work it yet. I'd say most people pre-T wouldn't pass in a spaghetti top and hot pants. I could totally see you pass in a pair of cargo shorts and a t-shirt, if you wore a binder. Regarding the haircut, I think the style is perfect, but it needs a trim. Yeah so basically what I'm trying to say is, all it might take is for you to find some clothes that distract from your curves rather than hug them.
Quote from: emil on May 17, 2012, 01:01:01 PM
Hey JayKyle, i actually see a lot of passing potential but you don't seem to know how to work it yet. I'd say most people pre-T wouldn't pass in a spaghetti top and hot pants. I could totally see you pass in a pair of cargo shorts and a t-shirt, if you wore a binder. Regarding the haircut, I think the style is perfect, but it needs a trim. Yeah so basically what I'm trying to say is, all it might take is for you to find some clothes that distract from your curves rather than hug them.
agreed on the clothes (those are my lounge wear lol) but I wore them to get some input on my body type so I would know on areas I need to work on.
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on May 17, 2012, 11:13:19 AM
Nygeel: i'd say pass but you look stereotypically gay, i dont mean that offensively but i mean feminine in a guy way. not sure how to explain that haha but do you get what i mean? feminine like chris colfer for example. get it? or should i explain further? haha sorry for the confusion
Quote from: JasonRX on May 17, 2012, 11:35:10 AM
I actually have to agree, though it's partially with how the hair is working with his face and that's totally out of control at this point, I think.
Nygeel - again, agree with above. I did though, instantly think male.
I'd rather get feminine/stereotypically gay looking man than woman. Still getting misgendered A LOT in person.
Quote from: Nygeel on May 18, 2012, 03:38:41 PM
I'd rather get feminine/stereotypically gay looking man than woman. Still getting misgendered A LOT in person.
I wonder how? Your new haircut is nice and certainly male. You pass to me if it counts for anything!
Quote from: ForWantOf on May 18, 2012, 09:12:03 PM
I wonder how? Your new haircut is nice and certainly male. You pass to me if it counts for anything!
I really have no idea. I'm also only counting strangers. Happens on the phone too, which is weird because I know my voice is boss. People are just weird.
One day I was misgendered returning flour to a grocery store. The day after I tried to cash a gold ring I had since I was really little that was very girlie...and I was called he a bunch. I ended up cutting the top shorter today because things were kind of uneven and looking weird.
"Happens on the phone too, which is weird because I know my voice is boss. People are just weird." People are just crazy one of my jobs is at a McDonald's and I had talked to someone over the head set and when they drove up the said "That girl I talked to..." and addressed me as male in person even though i had used the same voice. Doubt she realized I was the same person
Quote from: Traivs on May 18, 2012, 11:22:27 PM
"Happens on the phone too, which is weird because I know my voice is boss. People are just weird." People are just crazy one of my jobs is at a McDonald's and I had talked to someone over the head set and when they drove up the said "That girl I talked to..." and addressed me as male in person even though i had used the same voice. Doubt she realized I was the same person
That is weird...but, if your appearance super over rides your voice then that would do it. I think my voice is a baratone-ish sounding.
Source: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/46312417/recording-20120519-005046.mp3 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/46312417/recording-20120519-005046.mp3)
Me clearing my throat sorta sounds like a fart...as a warning. Also, the quality is legit!
Well, you look like a guy to me, Nygeel, and your glasses look fantastic on you, by the way. I wish I could find glasses that suited me so well, I look like a tool in every pair I've tried.
I don't know why you wouldn't pass, sometimes I think people use odd criteria and that by those criteria, cis or non-trans men must get misgendered too. It happens to me sometimes still as well, although in my case, I think it may be the purple hair...
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And your voice is way deeper than mine (and you sound awesome!), Nygeel, you're well into the baritone range. I'm just barely there and not consistently, there's still a lot of variation in my pitch, since I think it's not settled yet.
yeah there is nothing feminine about your voice people are just weird.
Nygeel, I don't get it. I DON'T FREAKING GET IT!!! WHY DON'T YOU PASS?!?!?! WHY?!?!?! AHHHHHH!!!!!! Even your high voice sounds so "gay male." Obviously you're short and people are ->-bleeped-<-s. And I'm sorry for asking but how's your hip size? That's the only thing that I feel would get you, unfortunately. But I don't get how people don't take everything else into consideration. And I don't understand you ever not passing on the phone. *sigh* I'm sorry bro.
Quote from: Nygeel on May 17, 2012, 11:02:44 AM
I gave myself a haircut last night. Trying to do something that looks more professional and maybe (JUST MAYBE) makes people see me as male. I'm not sure if I did the job. Thoughts?
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I hope you dont mind me being straight up honest with you here dude but I think its your glasses that dont help you pass. They are (to me) quite girly shape wise. Also because your eyebrows are quite thin I think that coupled with the glasses could be making people misgender you. Especially since most people when they first meet you will look at that area first. I think if you got squarer blockier glasses it would help. Thats just my opinion of course :)
Bahzi, I like your hair. ;D You look like a dude to me.
Idk Nygeel.... I really don't. Your voice sounds just like this guy Evan that I know. AND LOL Your high voice sounds like a regular dude trying to sound like a woman....
Only addressing questions n st00f.
@KyleXX My chest measurement is (I think) 40 when bound, and if you're supposed to measure your hips at around the widest part of the butt that's 40 inches. My hips aren't wide compared to the rest of my body. The two days back to back that I'm talking about...on the first I wore a stiff(er) baggy shirt, and the second my shirt was thinner/softer and closer to my body.
@Tom Here is a comparison where I took pictures close to what I took before, but with my old glasses which are more angular.
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I also cut some more off the top. Took me like 2 hours to pick out the frames I use now. Might be from having my eyes dilated and feeling really dizzy mixed with the fact that the woman helping me kept pulling glasses that were really...just...bad.
Quote from: Nygeel on May 19, 2012, 10:49:38 AM
I also cut some more off the top. Took me like 2 hours to pick out the frames I use now. Might be from having my eyes dilated and feeling really dizzy mixed with the fact that the woman helping me kept pulling glasses that were really...just...bad.
Honestly, Nygeel, I think the glasses in this picture suit your face better for some reason.
Also, did you develop side burn hair recently or does it just look that way because of the lighting?
Quote from: Edge on May 19, 2012, 09:02:45 AM
Bahzi, I like your hair. ;D You look like a dude to me.
Agreed--totally passing to me. I just wish you'd smile more. :) Maybe you will have more reason to smile if people are gendering you correctly now.
Nygeel, I remember a little while back when people kept giving you tips and then you'd post more pics and still "not passing" and it must have been very frustrating but you really do seem to be making progress now. I'd definitely say you are more passing now.
Quote from: JasonRX on May 19, 2012, 10:58:10 AM
Also, did you develop side burn hair recently or does it just look that way because of the lighting?
I see definite sideburns.
Those are indeed sideburns as the result of 2 months without shaving. I trimmed the chin hairs a week ago. Now it's more frustrating because here I'm getting "you pass" but IRL I'm not. LOL
Quote from: dalebert on May 19, 2012, 11:03:43 AM
I see definite sideburns.
Oh, I thought I did too.
But I figured I'd just ask because cameras can produce really strange shadows sometimes.
Speaking of facial hair, I should probably shave soon. I'm starting to look really scraggly.
xD
You look like a guy to me too. I don't know why you wouldn't pass. Maybe it has nothing to do with you, but you remind them of some gal on tv or something? Actually you *do* look familiar somehow.
Actually I'm not really sure what it is that makes people read one gender or another anyway. It is all a mystery to me. :)
--Jay Jay
Nygeel,
The old glasses look so much better. I know how it is picking out glasses. I used to have a square black plastic frame like your old ones, and when I got new ones I tried to go for something different but ended up with these really strangely shaped wire frame ones. Looked good at the store but I hate them now. They look super girly on me.
My opinion though is that the old ones are a winner on you. Those plus the short hair and you pass 100% to me. Not withstanding the uh sideburns, facial hair and your ridiculously manly voice. People are ridiculous, you pass for sure.
Old glasses I got when I was maybe...17. Although I still think they look good and all, these ones I have now sort of....well...they fit my personality better. Might update the lenses when I can.
Nygeel, I actually think the black rims look best. Your old pair looks really big on your face which might be throwing people off. Stick with the new pair they're very "cool, young guy"
Quote from: KyleXX on May 19, 2012, 10:08:51 PM
Nygeel, I actually think the black rims look best. Your old pair looks really big on your face which might be throwing people off. Stick with the new pair they're very "cool, young guy"
Wait...they're both black rims. The semi-rimless or the solid ones?
solid ones look best
here's a more recent pic of me at my sisters wedding (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3FTL7.jpg%3F2&hash=b1ddcd446e70a9718a7b12edba86e0feab4ad933)
totally look like a guy dude and nice pic
Quote from: Nygeel on May 19, 2012, 10:13:52 PM
Wait...they're both black rims. The semi-rimless or the solid ones?
For what it's worth, I think the semi-rimless look better overall on your face relative to the solid ones. Semi-rimless makes you look older and squares off your face more, especially as they look in your avatar picture.
Quote from: Justin 21 on May 20, 2012, 07:37:17 AM
here's a more recent pic of me at my sisters wedding
you look good! and you pass.
I disagree with the majority, I guess. I think your new frames look a lot better on your face Nygeel. I liked your haircut before you took a little more off, but coupled with your voice and the body pictures I've seen of you, I haven't the faintest idea why you get misgendered. I'm really stumped bud. I hope it gets better soon, that must be very frustrating!
Justin, looking awesome in the wedding pic and 100% male!!
sweet, thanks guys, i was a little worried about it cause my binder was suposed to arrive the week before but it hadn't turned up.
Quote from: Justin 21 on May 20, 2012, 05:48:22 PM
sweet, thanks guys, i was a little worried about it cause my binder was suposed to arrive the week before but it hadn't turned up.
You definitely pass to me. In fact, you look like a handful of guys I went to high school with, especially with the sunglasses. I also like the shirt and tie color.
Has anyone else dealt with that? The whole *put on reflective sunglasses* *darn near instant pass face wise*
Quote from: Prince Sal on May 20, 2012, 06:02:22 PM
You definitely pass to me. In fact, you look like a handful of guys I went to high school with, especially with the sunglasses. I also like the shirt and tie color.
Has anyone else dealt with that? The whole *put on reflective sunglasses* *darn near instant pass face wise*
what do you mean delt with that?
thanks i'm actually pre t.
Quote from: Justin 21 on May 20, 2012, 06:31:20 PM
what do you mean delt with that?
thanks i'm actually pre t.
Not dealt as in bad (sorry if that's what it seemed like... long day of boring work), but had that experience.
For example. I've discovered that when I put on my aviators, which are reflective sunglasses, and entirely hide my eyes, I seem to pass much more often then if I'm just wearing my normal glasses, or nothing at all. I don't know if it's certain expressions I have in my eyes, or eyelashes, but I more often get called 'Sir', 'Man', or 'Bro'. If I'm wearing my sunglasses. I should post some pictures an example.
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i don't see the difference in myself but you tell me
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it might be just that your eyes have a softer look about them, i have no idea
Justin21 I think you look alright, but I have one huge pet peeve. Clothes not fitting right. That vest doesn't fit, wish it did because vests are awesome but a vest that doesn't fit is grrr.
I think that there's a difference in expression and stance.
tell me about it, the vest wasn't mine, i got told at the last minute that i had to be an usher so i had to borrow my cousins vest, everything else i was wearing was tailored and fit me perfectly
So it's getting into warmer weather and I'm thinking that I may actually put on a pair of shorts this year, but I'm not shaving my legs.
What do you guys think, does my leg hair pass?
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Insideontheoutside:
I don't really think people would think much about your leg hair. I think it's what's above the legs that would make people think you pass or not lol I've seen guys with EXTREMELY hairy legs. On the flipside I have seen guys who shave their legs because they are on the swim team. And I have seen men who have bald patches on their legs because hair just won't grow there. But anyway, yes, your legs seem very masculine.
Quote from: darkwolf on May 22, 2012, 08:33:30 AM
Insideontheoutside:
I don't really think people would think much about your leg hair. I think it's what's above the legs that would make people think you pass or not lol I've seen guys with EXTREMELY hairy legs. On the flipside I have seen guys who shave their legs because they are on the swim team. And I have seen men who have bald patches on their legs because hair just won't grow there. But anyway, yes, your legs seem very masculine.
Agreed.
I was thinking this as well. It isn't what your legs look like; it's what you look like, and if you pass.
Sadly, if you don't pass then youre just going to look like a girl with hairy legs....
Hey guys. Im Nick and im new here so I figured why not introduce myself and post some pics to see what you guys think. Any help on passing or other suggestions are welcomed. Im pre-everthing btw. :) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1074.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw408%2Fnuclearw1nter19%2FDSCN1173.jpg&hash=f32a05e0170dd5c1fca47e44936f9d018b436b19)
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Hey Nick from what i can see I would say pass
Hey Nick, I can honestly say that had I seen these pictures outside of this forum, I never would have suspected you to be FTM! Which only calls for some celebration in your part! Imagine what you will be like on T! Good luck with everything.
so my aunt kinda decided she would giveme a new hair style
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what you guys think
Justin 21: That came out really cool! Really creative. Looks great
Quote from: Stewie on May 24, 2012, 08:29:39 AM
Justin 21: That came out really cool! Really creative. Looks great
thanks it's pretty much a marine cut but i spiked the front a little
That's even more awesome! I love military cuts!
Thanks traivs and stewie, it feels pretty good to hear that honestly ;D I find that I pass probably 60% of the time. Funny thing is its kinda situational-I have a traditionally "manly" job so I almost always pass at work, but I leave work and its hit and miss.
I hope you don't mind if I drop in quickly, leave my pics, and drop out again. Just not really much to say for me right now. They are from a few years ago when I had short hair which I plan to go back to soon-ish. I haven't officially transitioned in any way, shape or form so no T or whatevs.
http://i.imgur.com/66SOr.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/66SOr.jpg)
http://i.imgur.com/KFma8.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/KFma8.jpg)
The resized versions look horrific, so, links. Gimme your worst :P
Since I posted a "do my legs pass", here's an actual pic of me in "shorts".
Also, I'm not on T and I'm not transitioning. But the normal me is male. I look andro to occasionally male. Most of the time I'm fine with that but now and then or in certain circumstances I'd prefer to be read as male by other people.
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This is a shot before I got my hair cut where I didn't straighten it or bother at all with it, just ran my fingers through it out of the shower and this is how it dried. My friends debate on whether I look more male with straightened hair or just natural.
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For those that don't know, my "style" is definitely in the "alternative" realm ... think rocker, etc. Think if Joan Jett were actually a dude, that's what I'm going for lol I'm only 5'3" which doesn't help I know but not much I can do about that. I actually look a lot like a 20-something version of my dad as far as facial features/structure goes I just don't have the full-on beard going on.
The other day I was wearing regular jeans and a flannel shirt (about as close to "regular dude" as I can get) and I still got a "can you help this lady" from one of the female clerks at Home Depot. I've got no visible boobs, my hair was a mess and had on all male clothing. I don't know why I let it bother me the other day but it did because to me, there really was nothing lady-like about me. My friend keeps telling me that he thinks people are just not sure about my gender and error on the side of female because they think it's less "offensive" than if you were to call an actual female a man (she'd get offended - where as a man that might have some female features might just brush it off or actively correct someone and move on).
Insideontheoutside:
I think you definitely pass on the first picture. It really isn't the hair. You do have a masculine body even if you aren't 50 feet tall! lol trust me, my partner is a lot taller than me but eh, you learn to deal with it.
In the second picture, you have more of an andro look. The lack of facial hair kind of makes one question. You definitely look masculine but there are just hints of femininity there in my opinion.
i got a haircut, pass? (i was extremely tired in this pic btw) I dont usually get buzzcut cuz i dont usually pass with em and i always look mad young. but the barber was kinda doin his own thing and i was tired haha
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igotnothing, you pass 100% but for around 12, definitely got a masculine base to work with.
yeah a pass but it's a young pass
Quote from: Stewie on May 26, 2012, 07:53:57 PM
Insideontheoutside:
I think you definitely pass on the first picture. It really isn't the hair. You do have a masculine body even if you aren't 50 feet tall! lol trust me, my partner is a lot taller than me but eh, you learn to deal with it.
In the second picture, you have more of an andro look. The lack of facial hair kind of makes one question. You definitely look masculine but there are just hints of femininity there in my opinion.
Thanks for the feedback Stewie :)
Hey guys, just looking for some face and voice feedback. I've been on T for 3 months and 3 weeks and I would like some outside input on my passability. First two pictures and first recording are from the day I started T and the second two and second recording are from earlier today. Thanks!
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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/81806266/V20120207.m4a (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/81806266/V20120207.m4a)
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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/81806266/V20120527.m4a (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/81806266/V20120527.m4a)
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insideontheoutside - In the first photo you look really like someone I go to school with, only he has a rounder face, but the expression, features and build is pretty much the same, so that's a pass to me. The second one is also a pass, although maybe I'd question the lack of facial hair like someone else said, people with that style tend to have at least a little bit of stubble going on, although I appreciate T or anything isn't on your cards (I'm kinda the same about transitioning, and get days when I care when people read me as female, and others when I don't so much.)
ty - pass as usual.
Daniel - I think I'd see how you acted IRL to make a full decision, although I probably would read you male at a glance. Maybe try putting something in your hair to "de-fluff" it a bit more. The second set are definatly more masculine though. Sorry I'm not good at judging voice comparisons, I find them a bit awkward to listen to.
Daniel, those voice comparison links are locked unless you are a member.
Thanks Andy, links fixed!
Your voice has definitely deepened but it's pretty andro imo, I can read it as teen boy or older woman.
Quote from: KyleXX on May 26, 2012, 11:32:16 PM
igotnothing, you pass 100% but for around 12, definitely got a masculine base to work with.
was this to me? haha not sure but yeah i know thats why i usually dont get buzzcuts, luckily im only 14 so not a huge problem
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on May 27, 2012, 09:55:39 PM
was this to me? haha not sure but yeah i know thats why i usually dont get buzzcuts, luckily im only 14 so not a huge problem
No, they meant it to the user
igotnothing, see below
Quote from: igotnothing on May 26, 2012, 01:31:20 PM
I hope you don't mind if I drop in quickly, leave my pics, and drop out again. Just not really much to say for me right now. They are from a few years ago when I had short hair which I plan to go back to soon-ish. I haven't officially transitioned in any way, shape or form so no T or whatevs.
http://i.imgur.com/66SOr.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/66SOr.jpg)
http://i.imgur.com/KFma8.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/KFma8.jpg)
The resized versions look horrific, so, links. Gimme your worst :P
Quote from: Daniel006 on May 27, 2012, 03:29:45 PM
Hey guys, just looking for some face and voice feedback. I've been on T for 3 months and 3 weeks and I would like some outside input on my passability. First two pictures and first recording are from the day I started T and the second two and second recording are from earlier today. Thanks!
*edit for working links*
the face ur making in the right side pics doesn't help either way, dunno what that face is.. no offense lol. straight on you def pass for 16. voice is a pass for me as well. congrats bro, isn't T great? i want it! lol
These are some pictures from my trip to England to visit my gf who is also pictured. Just wondering how I'm doing with passing and such. I feel like I am passing a lot lately in public, I think being over in England/France I am passing much more than I usually do back home, not sure why that is but this past month I pass everytime I go out compared to sometimes before.
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Charlie85:
1st of all...THAT IS SO FREKIN COOL THAT YOU GET TO GO OVER THERE!!!
2nd of all...It is a definite pass for me!!! i really like the pic in the red jacket!
charlie85; Passing 100%, I would honestly say that you don't have to worry about it ;)
I also like that picture Stewie mentioned, red looks good on you!
Quote from: AlecSky on May 27, 2012, 07:42:50 PM
insideontheoutside - In the first photo you look really like someone I go to school with, only he has a rounder face, but the expression, features and build is pretty much the same, so that's a pass to me. The second one is also a pass, although maybe I'd question the lack of facial hair like someone else said, people with that style tend to have at least a little bit of stubble going on, although I appreciate T or anything isn't on your cards (I'm kinda the same about transitioning, and get days when I care when people read me as female, and others when I don't so much.)
Thanks. The sad thing is I DO have stubble but only at the bottom of my chin and under my chin and it comes in really light so no one would really notice it anyway.
By looking at almost all the pictures here, I think all of you guys pass. :) I don't know about the white horse with the unicorn, but I guess the horse passes too! I notice some or more than some of you have a childish look, which is just fine because a lot of guy celebrities around the world have that look & chicks & guys seem to like it!
Quote from: jokkemies on May 28, 2012, 10:58:05 AM
charlie85; Passing 100%, I would honestly say that you don't have to worry about it ;)
I also like that picture Stewie mentioned, red looks good on you!
Quote from: Stewie on May 28, 2012, 10:23:19 AM
Charlie85:
1st of all...THAT IS SO FREKIN COOL THAT YOU GET TO GO OVER THERE!!!
2nd of all...It is a definite pass for me!!! i really like the pic in the red jacket!
Thanks! I'm glad you guys said I look good in red and still pass in it I was worried I wouldn't pull off red while still passing.
Here's another picture of my facial hair after shaving 6 days ago, I'm pre-t so I think it's impressive
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Charlie85...I hate you! And here I was proud of the peach fuzz! lol jk That is so frekin awesome!
Quote from: Stewie on May 29, 2012, 08:58:04 AM
Charlie85...I hate you! And here I was proud of the peach fuzz! lol jk That is so frekin awesome!
I definetly got the hair gene from my dad.
Lol thanks!
LOL I am hairy like my dad too but I don't have that!!! I have like a half a sideburn on ONE side of my face!! Booyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! lmao
But in all seriousness, that is awesome. As soon as the T kicks in...Mountain Man Charlie here you come!
Am I a little bit trans because I don't wanna be hairy? Maybe this should go in the "What are you thinking?" thread.
Quote from: dalebert on May 29, 2012, 10:37:18 AM
Am I a little bit trans because I don't wanna be hairy? Maybe this should go in the "What are you thinking?" thread.
I'm destined to be hairy and actually for the most part, I love it - so, I would say "I don't think so", but perhaps I am the minority that feels that way. I don't know.
xD
Quote from: JasonRX on May 29, 2012, 10:42:25 AM
I'm destined to be hairy and actually for the most part, I love it - so, I would say "I don't think so", but perhaps I am the minority that feels that way. I don't know.
xD
ewww gross body hair :D jk, but you can keep it. I guess my time as a runner/swimmer made me shun it :laugh:
Quote from: JayKyle on May 29, 2012, 11:25:23 PM
ewww gross body hair :D jk, but you can keep it. I guess my time as a runner/swimmer made me shun it :laugh:
You would hate my legs.
And well, most of my body.
But especially my legs.
:)
Quote from: JasonRX on May 29, 2012, 11:34:05 PM
You would hate my legs.
And well, most of my body.
But especially my legs.
:)
yours doesn't bother me, its my own if that makes any sense.
Quote from: JasonRX on May 29, 2012, 11:34:05 PM
You would hate my legs.
And well, most of my body.
But especially my legs.
:)
They're a bit too hairy for my taste. :P
Quote from: JasonRX on May 29, 2012, 11:34:05 PM
You would hate my legs.
And well, most of my body.
But especially my legs.
:)
I wish I was hairy lol even for a girl i had less hair than all my friends. The hair on my arms and stuff is so light you cant see it at all, and I haven't shaved all year and one of my female friends who skipped a week of shaving camping is hairy than me. Sad day. You guys are lucky.
Quote from: Aeris on May 30, 2012, 12:35:42 AM
They're a bit too hairy for my taste. :P
Little do you know, I'm actually slowly turning into a werewolf.
:P
Quote from: JasonRX on May 30, 2012, 08:57:40 AM
Little do you know, I'm actually slowly turning into a werewolf.
:P
Hopefully not into the kind presented by MTV's Teen Wolf...Maybe something badass like the Wolf Man or something...Hey, even Twilight would be better than the one on MTV lol
Quote from: Stewie on May 30, 2012, 09:18:47 AM
Hopefully not into the kind presented by MTV's Teen Wolf...Maybe something badass like the Wolf Man or something...Hey, even Twilight would be better than the one on MTV lol
Hey, I'm only a few episodes in but I'm liking Teen Wolf! I like it a lot better than Vampire Diaries which I've seen about the same number of episodes of. It makes me wanna vomit. I guess they are pretty similar though. Just nothing seems to happen on VD. They just walk around in pretty houses and talk about people. It's a soap opera.
Quote from: Stewie on May 30, 2012, 09:18:47 AM
Hopefully not into the kind presented by MTV's Teen Wolf...Maybe something badass like the Wolf Man or something...Hey, even Twilight would be better than the one on MTV lol
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Quote from: JasonRX on May 30, 2012, 09:53:11 AM
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LOL! I was just playing that game. Pillaging villages with my unquenchable thirst for human blood! :B
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(copied below still though)
Quote from: SnailPace on June 01, 2012, 11:05:08 PM
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Damn, that's an epic chin strap, total pass imo. How long have you been on T?
WHOA! "Snailpace" does not describe your facial hair growth, that's for sure :P
Quote from: Andy8715 on June 01, 2012, 11:06:24 PM
Damn, that's an epic chin strap, total pass imo. How long have you been on T?
About a year now? I haven't been on here in a while, decided to check in!
@Wraith: I basically grow a neck-beard and nothing else though!
I'm bigender and these days i'm in need of validation about my male presentation. You guys think I pass?
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Quote from: Seyranna on June 02, 2012, 04:42:47 PM
I'm bigender and these days i'm in need of validation about my male presentation. You guys think I pass?
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Yeah I think so although you could get some people thinking 'butch girl' on first glance because of your eyebrows and hair.
@ AJ
I think you pass more in the 2nd picture the first makes me think girl, I think because I the softness of your face. If your going on T though that will sort it out, the fat just needs to redistribute to a more male pattern. Saying that most people in everyday life will probs think your a young guy.
@igotnothing: I would say you pass in the 2nd pic.
@insideontheoutside: You pass to me. Sorry you got mis-gendered. I get mis-gendered wearing all male clothes too. Did she hear your voice first? That can give you away since your pre-T. I was a Cyndi Lauper concert with my friend and we were in the lobby and there was a trans guy there, pre-T and my friend turns to me and says, "that's a girl, I thought he was a guy." It was the voice that gave the guy away.
@ty.to.the.man: You pass, but like anywhere from 12-14 years old.
@Daniel006: Totally pass to me and I can defiantly see changes from the first 2 pics and the 2nd two pics... you defiantly got more masculine. I can defiantly hear a change in your voice and it's defiantly got'n deeper and I think it sounds totally male.
@charlie85: You pass to me. And wow, facial hair pre-T, that's awesome!
@SnailPace: Wow! Great facial hair! Yeah, you pass 100%
@AJ: You pass in the first and last pic to me.
@Seyranna: Hard to tell, could go either way.
haha thanks! Looking young is fine for me... haha
Quote from: Dominick_81 on June 02, 2012, 10:18:09 PM
@insideontheoutside: You pass to me. Sorry you got mis-gendered. I get mis-gendered wearing all male clothes too. Did she hear your voice first? That can give you away since your pre-T. I was a Cyndi Lauper concert with my friend and we were in the lobby and there was a trans guy there, pre-T and my friend turns to me and says, "that's a girl, I thought he was a guy." It was the voice that gave the guy away.
Thanks! Yeah for once, I didn't talk first. The clerk was waiting on another customer and I was just waiting in the background to ask something. Another associate came up and that's when she said it. I've also got other random "I can help you here ma'am"'s when waiting in line at places (without saying a word). All I can think is that they see short and no beard and their brain goes right to female.
Thanks for the feedback guys. Validating one necessarily invalidates the other that was expected but this is what I normally look like =P
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Forgive my hair it was a real mess today.
You definitely pass. Great bone structure.
hey i 'am back
still not on T :(
do i still pass or not plz be honest and thank u.
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peace.
Joseff, you totally pass. If I saw you on the street, I would only see a guy.
Quote from: jossef-ftm on June 05, 2012, 10:10:46 AM
hey i 'am back
still not on T :(
do i still pass or not plz be honest and thank u.
peace.
I'm really glad you're posting again. I thought about you the other day and was worried.
brooke thnx and adio thnx i am ok bro.
@Snail .. Have to agree with andy, that chin strap is kick ass bro 8)
@Jossef, Def. Pass. Wouldnt have thought twice about it.
Awesome stuff guys.
AJ: Pass. You're cute :)
Jossef: Definitely pass. You look a lot like a guy I used to know.
Seyranna: Andro on the side of passing. Your face is really masculine in that pic ('cept the eyebrows), but not in the girl pic, which is weird...
Quote from: jossef-ftm on June 05, 2012, 10:10:46 AM
hey i 'am back
still not on T :(
do i still pass or not plz be honest and thank u.
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peace.
Def pass for me.
Just wanted to see how I'm doing...I'm not on T or had any surgeries, and might not ever. I've been feeling like I look pretty feminine lately. What do you guys think?
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Konnor I think you pass no problem what so ever. Also, nice hair.
Konnor - I agree with others, I dont see girl at all.
Thanks guys!!! That makes me feel a lot better :) Haha my hair doesn't look great in those pictures, but I think it looks a lot better than when I had a longer, shaggy haircut. And I'm really self conscious of smiling because I think I look femme, so thanks for saying that Liam!!
Thanks Casey!!! That's so nice of you :)
Quote from: Konnor on June 10, 2012, 04:01:03 PM
Just wanted to see how I'm doing...I'm not on T or had any surgeries, and might not ever. I've been feeling like I look pretty feminine lately. What do you guys think?
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You look great and totally do not look female.
Quote from: insideontheoutside on June 03, 2012, 01:21:46 PM
Thanks! Yeah for once, I didn't talk first. The clerk was waiting on another customer and I was just waiting in the background to ask something. Another associate came up and that's when she said it. I've also got other random "I can help you here ma'am"'s when waiting in line at places (without saying a word). All I can think is that they see short and no beard and their brain goes right to female.
I think the same thing when people look at me... short must be female with facial hair...? I still can't pass with facial hair either.
@jossef-ftm: and @Konnor: Totally pass.
Damn konnor in the first pic you look like Chris colfer from glee
Konnor you defiantly pass :) I like the one with the green shirt the best!
I made a voice video and I just mostly want to know if my voice sounds fake like how people sometimes talk deeper on purpose?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvid568.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss125%2FpLutherq%2Fth_Video_00016.jpg&hash=e635bc496a7689ca3642b8122e8903a8d5805f68) (http://s568.photobucket.com/albums/ss125/pLutherq/?action=view¤t=Video_00016.mp4)
Well I dont know how to post a video properly but if you click the picture it should work
Hi everyone! I haven't been on Susan's in quite a while. I hope everyone is doing great :)
I just hit 7 months on T, and I figure, what better place to get some advice than Susan's? I missed this place. :D
This is my update video, made today.
7 months on testosterone and a general update (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JemaEaaUukM&feature=plcp#)
Quote from: Morgan. on June 15, 2012, 06:45:00 AM
Hi everyone! I haven't been on Susan's in quite a while. I hope everyone is doing great :)
I just hit 7 months on T, and I figure, what better place to get some advice than Susan's? I missed this place. :D
This is my update video, made today.
7 months on testosterone and a general update (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JemaEaaUukM&feature=plcp#)
Dude!
I was wondering about you the other day.
:)
Anyway, your voice is a total pass to me - and in fact, I wish it were mine because I enjoy how it sounds way more than my voice does.
However, your face looks pretty young still - I can see minor changes though and I would say you'd still be passing for the most part, especially after you talk.
And
Harlee, the speaking voice your using passes to me as a teenage male. It is a tad high, but it doesn't sound female...
Quote from: harlee on June 14, 2012, 11:58:10 PM
Konnor you defiantly pass :) I like the one with the green shirt the best!
I made a voice video and I just mostly want to know if my voice sounds fake like how people sometimes talk deeper on purpose?
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Well I dont know how to post a video properly but if you click the picture it should work
u really sound like a boy and i dont think ur voice is to high ive met boys wit higher voices and they were naturaly born male. so dont worry
Quote from: harlee on June 14, 2012, 11:58:10 PM
I made a voice video and I just mostly want to know if my voice sounds fake like how people sometimes talk deeper on purpose?
It sounds passable and doesn't sound faked to me.
so uh yah pass? and IM SO EXCITED TO B STARTING ANDROGEL!!!! i mean its not shots but at least its sumthin :P
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Quote from: Seyranna on June 03, 2012, 05:43:36 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys. Validating one necessarily invalidates the other that was expected but this is what I normally look like =P
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Forgive my hair it was a real mess today.
Ah! you're screwing with my mind! I scrolled up and down several times looking at male and female you! either way, you look great!!
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on June 15, 2012, 10:57:53 PM
so uh yah pass? and IM SO EXCITED TO B STARTING ANDROGEL!!!! i mean its not shots but at least its sumthin :P
I wish I could've started as young as yo.
Congrats, dude.
:P
thanks man! but i still gotta wait till like september for shots :-\
Ty - Congrats on the starting the gel! You must be so excited.
Harlee - Your voice is actually alot deeper than Id expected. I definitely wouldnt question it if I met you.
Morgan - Your voice is reaching a good male level, but for me theres still a softness in your face that makes you not pass as well. But bear in mind, this is me scrutinizing, Im sure to some randomer on the street you probably pass fine.
Thanks inside, Dominick, and Harlee!!
Haha, you're not the first person to tell me I look like him, Justin. He's pretty cool so I dig the comparison ;D
Harlee and Morgan, both of your voices sound quite male to me, I'm very jealous of you both!!
Ty, passing as always, congrats on starting T!!
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on June 15, 2012, 10:57:53 PM
so uh yah pass? and IM SO EXCITED TO B STARTING ANDROGEL!!!! i mean its not shots but at least its sumthin :P
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Dude,
I'M so excited you're starting T! You're so young and pass so well already, you're going to look so boss, I know it and I can't wait to see your changes! Congratulations Bro!!!
thanks guys!! there wont be a lotta changes but hey ya never know
any change is better than none ;D
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on June 16, 2012, 08:52:32 PM
thanks guys!! there wont be a lotta changes but hey ya never know
i think you'll be surprised. i thought the younger you are the better the T will work with your body. i wanna see facial hair on you homie, get you lookin older than 12 8) and stay active! keep doing your bboying cause fasho your strength is gonna go through the friggin roof! are you gonna track your changes on youtube? if so i gotta go sub to dat shiz.. so stoked for you bro.
Hey guys, haven't been on in awhile, but I work nights so I sleep most of the day. Anyways, I wanna get back into the forums, and I made a video "update" so tell me what you think and how my voice is doing. Any feedback
http://youtu.be/1QhYq29xBu8 (http://youtu.be/1QhYq29xBu8)
Quote from: KyleXX on June 16, 2012, 11:45:21 PM
i think you'll be surprised. i thought the younger you are the better the T will work with your body. i wanna see facial hair on you homie, get you lookin older than 12 8) and stay active! keep doing your bboying cause fasho your strength is gonna go through the friggin roof! are you gonna track your changes on youtube? if so i gotta go sub to dat shiz.. so stoked for you bro.
yea im injured right now wich sucks -__- but ill deff b keepin wit it. my youtube channel is http://www.youtube.com/user/TyFizz77/videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/TyFizz77/videos) so check it out! thanks for the support btw
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on June 17, 2012, 03:14:15 PM
yea im injured right now wich sucks -__- but ill deff b keepin wit it. my youtube channel is http://www.youtube.com/user/TyFizz77/videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/TyFizz77/videos) so check it out! thanks for the support btw
i just looked at one of ur youtube vids. u loook soooo adorable!!! lol
haha thanks ;D
ik im a MTF but i wanted a few guys point of view on if im pretty or not or if i pass or not, unfortuantly im not on Hormones but i hope i can get on them as soon as possible and btw please dont be to mean cause im really insecure so please dont trie to hurt my feelings and yes my eyebrows are drawn on except in 2 pics and ik the drawn on eyebros dont look good in 2 pics but i fixed them now and now they look really pretty plus im not wearing ay foundation only mascara and lipgloss in the pics with the messed up eyebrows lol.
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Angelique1994, I think you look pretty :) and Im really suprised that you arent on hormones yet! I think that the first and second pictures are the best ones of your face :)
Quote from: Angelique1994 on June 20, 2012, 08:57:12 PM
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How do you have tits if you're not on hormones? Just wondering.
Angelique, you look pretty and you definitely pass. The best pictures (in my opinion) are the ones where you're smiling.
Quote from: poptart on June 21, 2012, 05:38:16 PM
How do you have tits if you're not on hormones? Just wondering.
ive always had loose skin there naturally idk y tho but im also wearing bra inserts to help give me more cleavage
Quote from: Angelique1994 on June 20, 2012, 08:57:12 PM
ik im a MTF but i wanted a few guys point of view on if im pretty or not or if i pass or not, unfortuantly im not on Hormones but i hope i can get on them as soon as possible and btw please dont be to mean cause im really insecure so please dont trie to hurt my feelings and yes my eyebrows are drawn on except in 2 pics and ik the drawn on eyebros dont look good in 2 pics but i fixed them now and now they look really pretty plus im not wearing ay foundation only mascara and lipgloss in the pics with the messed up eyebrows lol.
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Yes you are pretty. This is just a personal choice but I prefer your eyebrows in these two pics. Thats not to say they dont look good in the others, so dont worry. I just prefer them like that because it gives you a cuter look and thats what I go for in girls. I think your going to look great on hormones. I think you pass in all of them but I think you pass better ( at least to me) in the two pics I pointed out.
I always think with m2f girls that they tend to pass a lot better when there makeup is more neutral/ natural looking especially before hrt.
Angelique, you're gorgeous. No need to be insecure love! But I'm sure a lot of us can understand that being on HRT would give a boost to one's self esteem.
Anyway, you look great. :)
Angelique1994, you're very pretty and you totally pass, and you look even more beautiful and soft-featured in the pictures with less make-up.
Quote from: Angelique1994 on June 21, 2012, 06:00:15 PM
ive always had loose skin there naturally idk y tho but im also wearing bra inserts to help give me more cleavage
If you're 17/18 and that feminine without HRT (I literally can't see one distinctively male feature) and you have breasts you probably have some kind of intersex condition or hormone imbalance. This would be a good thing in your case. Just saying you might wanna get it checked out.
thanks u guys for all the nice comments yall are so sweet and yall really made my day :)
Quote from: Angelique1994 on June 21, 2012, 06:00:15 PM
ive always had loose skin there naturally idk y tho but im also wearing bra inserts to help give me more cleavage
Girl, you got balls to post in this thread! ;)
Quote from: Jamie D on June 23, 2012, 02:05:46 PM
Girl, you got balls to post in this thread! ;)
lol. idk if i should have posted in here tho cause Aeris made a post asking for critique and she put my name in the title and then donna made one and im fine wit them making one cause i feel that in the FTMs forums we can be sure that they r telling us the truth but wat has me a little upset is that on donnas thread aeris posted saying that it was for satire and i looked up satire and it meant making fun of and ridicualing someone basically im thinking she made the thread to make me look stupid. so im accually regretting posting on this forum cause i hate it that aeris singled me out by putting my name in her thread title.
Don't be upset Angelique. You are a trend-setter. Justin21 posted over in the MtF thread. And why not?!
And, hey, look at all the nice comments you got from the boys! Lucky you, I'm jealous.
"Satirical" doesn't mean making fun of you personally, but of the novelty of "cross-posting."
Let's have a little fun. K? :)
Quote from: Jamie D on June 24, 2012, 03:32:20 PM
"Satirical" doesn't mean making fun of you personally, but of the novelty of "cross-posting."
Exactly this. I've seen the topic and didn't get the impression that she was making fun of you personally either, so don't worry about it! You pass amazingly by the way, Angelique!
I hate to be pushy but this is a bit of an emergency. I'm about to go swimming in public so please let me know. I know everyone says it, but sorry about the quality of the pictures. I'm honestly most worried about the packer. No matter what I do it just doesn't feel right or even decent to me. :P In case you don't know me, I'm two years on T. This is the swimsuit from LoveBoat. Thank you all :)
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You look fine.
Thanks for answering. I'm taking your word on that. :D
Quote from: Aeris on June 28, 2012, 11:59:11 AM
You look fine.
Seconded.
Enjoy your swim, hon. :)
Squirrel: You pass completely to me, but I think it'd look better with regular board shorts cause they're not so tight, won't draw attention to the packer if you're worried about it looking weird.
Thanks everyone. I did have a nice day at the pool and even have the sunburn to prove it.
I would like to wear loose board shorts but this is how this set came. Which is a bit annoying because the picture on the website doesn't show them that tight.
http://www.lesloveboat.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=93&products_id=266 (http://www.lesloveboat.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=93&products_id=266)
Still I paid $110 for them so I might as well wear them. The top fits very well and is comfortable, I'll give it that. Perhaps if I could find a matching pair of board shorts I'll go for it.
you look great squirrel. i'm intensely jealous of your manlyness. and i agree with them too. loose board shorts would probly look more natural if you're worried about ur packer.
Squirrel, nothing in the world could make me think you looked the least bit female. You pass swimmingly! ;D
Hey guys, I'm new here. All of you pass great. Sometimes I think that I also quite pass, other days I'm not sure. I'm pre-everything so I hope it gets better when I can be on T. So what do you guys think? (sorry for my english)
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Jared I think you pass absolutely fine in both of those photos, maybe slightly more in the first one, but definitely male in both.
Thanks AlecSky for the positive comment. ;D
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Traivs, you pass IMO. Your facial features make you appear to be quite a young guy, but I would read you as male. :)
Squirrel, I wouldn't second guess you as anything but male. :D
As for the board shorts, if you're worried about your packer but would like to get some board shorts, maybe look for a pair that are a bit bigger than what you'd normally wear in shorts (which will probably make them longer, too) and wear them over the bottoms of the swimsuit. That is, if you don't mind wearing a double layer to swim. Just a suggestion. :)
Any advice guys? I got a new shirt today so I was feeling pretty nifty.
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Travis- lookin good man
Morgan- nice shirt
Quote from: Morgan. on July 01, 2012, 04:30:35 AM
Any advice guys? I got a new shirt today so I was feeling pretty nifty.
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The word "nifty" makes me smile. And I kinda forgot what kind of forum this was for a second, and thought you were just showing off your shirt. So yes, you pass.
so the rest of these pics you'll find in the badass thread.. but i want to know how well i'm passing. i bind and pack now 100% of the time.
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You pass fine to me, but need to pull your pants up.
Quote from: Andy8715 on July 01, 2012, 11:09:57 PM
You pass fine to me, but need to pull your pants up.
LOL. i'm gangster. its how i roll. i'll never pull my pants up. i have too much hips... i'd never pass.
Quote from: Wil Najera on July 01, 2012, 10:57:29 PM
so the rest of these pics you'll find in the badass thread.. but i want to know how well i'm passing. i bind and pack now 100% of the time.
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Do you know what having your pants that low actually means? It means you are trolling for men and comes from prison. Just an FYI because it's not very attractive. :police:
Other than that, I say yes, you pass. now pull those pants up. :P
Quote from: Wil Najera on July 01, 2012, 11:20:41 PM
LOL. i'm gangster. its how i roll. i'll never pull my pants up. i have too much hips... i'd never pass.
I feel your pain mate, I can't pull mine up either or my hips and thighs are like 'hello we're shapely why don't you come and question my gender'.
Although Keaira's comment makes me want to pull them up to my armpits >.<
Lol. Sorry. If you feel you have to keep doing it then it's up to you. I just want you to know where that 'style' comes from. I just think he passes and it wasn't the pants/boxers that did it.
Quote from: Keaira on July 02, 2012, 01:02:35 AM
It means you are trolling for men and comes from prison.
I just heard about that the other day. I heard it means that you're offering sex in exchange for protection in prison.
Quote from: Keaira on July 02, 2012, 01:02:35 AM
Do you know what having your pants that low actually means? It means you are trolling for men and comes from prison. Just an FYI because it's not very attractive. :police:
Other than that, I say yes, you pass. now pull those pants up. :P
I always wondered why guys perpetuated that look. Nothing more unattractive than an ass hanging out and a mile of underwear. Besides the prison thing, that look makes your hips stand out MORE. You've got noticeable bulge hanging out on either side of where you're belting those shorts. Trust the few of us who've said something dude, it's not a good look for you or anyone for that matter.
Besides that, like the others have said, you totally pass. So stop sagging.
Quote from: Wil Najera on July 01, 2012, 11:20:41 PM
LOL. i'm gangster. its how i roll. i'll never pull my pants up. i have too much hips... i'd never pass.
What hips? Seriously, your body and face dont look girly to me just a bit young. Could be anywhere from 14-18
Quote from: insideontheoutside on July 02, 2012, 01:55:48 PM
You've got noticeable bulge hanging out on either side of where you're belting those shorts.
its just the fabric hanging out... it's not actually a buldge. i'm only 106 lbs. lol. it's just because i was swinging around an ax. my boxers rode up a little. lol. and i've never been to prison, so i'm safe there.
Quote from: Wil Najera on July 02, 2012, 05:52:52 PM
its just the fabric hanging out... it's not actually a buldge. i'm only 106 lbs. lol. it's just because i was swinging around an ax. my boxers rode up a little. lol. and i've never been to prison, so i'm safe there.
But you're drawing attention to your ass and hips by belting your pants around that area. You know there's such a thing as low-rise as well. You don't have to have your pants at grandpa level, but you don't have to be showing the world your ass either. And since you don't seem the type to wear tight fitting pants, it's the looser fabric of the shorts/pants that will DE-emphasize your hips.
I think it's funny as hell that we are generally such a supportive, non-judgmental community....except apparently for pant height. :D
Wil, you look great man. I'm not a huge fan of the underwear showing either, but you certainly pass well.
I don't really care about how you wear your clothes as long as you're decent but personally I think if you are gonna wear them low it looks better when you're wearing tighter boxers so you don't get that flappy bit hanging out. Just my personal feelings.
Just got a few photos from prom, one of them I didn't know were being taken which I think is a better judge if I pass than if I knew.
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Quote from: AlecSky on July 03, 2012, 08:23:15 AM
I don't really care about how you wear your clothes as long as you're decent but personally I think if you are gonna wear them low it looks better when you're wearing tighter boxers so you don't get that flappy bit hanging out. Just my personal feelings.
Just got a few photos from prom, one of them I didn't know were being taken which I think is a better judge if I pass than if I knew.
You pass the best in the first, but I also wouldn't say you pass for an age of someone who would be attending prom unless someone else invited them - you look about a year or two younger to me. In the last one, when you're next to a guy you're age, I immediately read you as female at first glance - maybe the shape and texture of your hat has something to do with it too. This is just my opinion though, but I'm also sorry if it isn't quite what you wanted to hear.
Quote from: AlecSky on July 03, 2012, 08:23:15 AM
I don't really care about how you wear your clothes as long as you're decent but personally I think if you are gonna wear them low it looks better when you're wearing tighter boxers so you don't get that flappy bit hanging out. Just my personal feelings.
Just got a few photos from prom, one of them I didn't know were being taken which I think is a better judge if I pass than if I knew.
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I think you pass better with the hairstyle on your profile pic. However the first pic is great and I agree with Jason about the hat. Clothing is cool ;D
Quote from: JasonRX on July 03, 2012, 09:22:08 AM
You pass the best in the first, but I also wouldn't say you pass for an age of someone who would be attending prom unless someone else invited them - you look about a year or two younger to me. In the last one, when you're next to a guy you're age, I immediately read you as female at first glance - maybe the shape and texture of your hat has something to do with it too. This is just my opinion though, but I'm also sorry if it isn't quite what you wanted to hear.
I know I look pretty young and I'm ridiculously short so it doesn't really bother me, I was just wondering what age you think people go to prom at so I can gauge better how old I look to you, a lot of places have it at 18 but we had ours at 16 so I'm not sure. The hat was just for a laugh so that's okay if it doesn't help me pass, I'm not planning on wearing it ever again. It's fine if I don't pass totally anyway I'm not out at school or anything.
Quote from: Jared on July 03, 2012, 01:03:39 PM
I think you pass better with the hairstyle on your profile pic. However the first pic is great and I agree with Jason about the hat. Clothing is cool ;D
I wanted to do that again but I was driving on my moped there so it would of got all squashed down anyway. Got a haircut yesterday though so it's different again, was getting pretty scruffy looking if I didn't bother to straighten it (my hair is stupidly thick if it hasn't just been cut).
Thanks guys :)
See, I read male in all three pictures, and to me you don't look out-of-place at all.
Quote from: Nygeel on February 13, 2012, 06:54:00 AM
OMG A KITTY! SO FLIPPIN' CUTE! HAY GUISE DO I PASS!?!?
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Sorry...first thing I think of when cats are involved is the internet...which eventually leads to unicorns.
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Wut? No sparkles? :P
Quote from: Lee on July 03, 2012, 12:33:06 AM
I think it's funny as hell that we are generally such a supportive, non-judgmental community....except apparently for pant height. :D
i know right? seriously? the way i wear my clothes is no ones business. everyone is entitled to what they feel comfortble with. for everyone's information, i'm very self conscious about wearing my pants higher than that. so yeah, the question wasnt "do you like my underware?", it was "do i pass?" :D
Quote from: Lee on July 03, 2012, 12:33:06 AM
Wil, you look great man. I'm not a huge fan of the underwear showing either, but you certainly pass well.
thanks :)
Quote from: insideontheoutside on July 02, 2012, 09:56:14 PM
And since you don't seem the type to wear tight fitting pants,
i wear skinny jeans too, and yes, i sag them as well. it's just how i dress.
i'm not judging the way you guys dress, seriously, i didnt want your opinions on my boxers. lol. if i wanted that i'd just listen to my aunt whine about it when i'm at home.
Quote from: Wil Najera on July 04, 2012, 06:37:41 PM
i wear skinny jeans too, and yes, i sag them as well. it's just how i dress.
i'm not judging the way you guys dress, seriously, i didnt want your opinions on my boxers. lol. if i wanted that i'd just listen to my aunt whine about it when i'm at home.
The point was you're
DRAWING ATTENTION TO YOUR HIPS AND ASS. You don't want to get that or don't care, even though you made a point to mention the reason why you sag is because you're self conscious of your hips. You don't want to take that passing advice tip, fine, but those of us who have pointed it out are not "whining" about it, just trying to get you to clue in.
Quote from: AlecSky on July 03, 2012, 08:23:15 AM
I don't really care about how you wear your clothes as long as you're decent but personally I think if you are gonna wear them low it looks better when you're wearing tighter boxers so you don't get that flappy bit hanging out. Just my personal feelings.
Just got a few photos from prom, one of them I didn't know were being taken which I think is a better judge if I pass than if I knew.
You look young, but definitely male. Nice tie.
Quote from: AlecSky on July 03, 2012, 03:34:35 PM
I wanted to do that again but I was driving on my moped there so it would of got all squashed down anyway. Got a haircut yesterday though so it's different again, was getting pretty scruffy looking if I didn't bother to straighten it (my hair is stupidly thick if it hasn't just been cut).
Thanks guys :)
Cool ;) I used to have longer hair and it was also hard to do to look allright. It's too damn curly and impossible to straighten :-X Anyway I'm sure the new haircut is cool and not happened like this http://9gag.com/gag/4688488 (http://9gag.com/gag/4688488) ;D
Quote from: Jared on July 05, 2012, 12:11:12 PM
Cool ;) I used to have longer hair and it was also hard to do to look allright. It's too damn curly and impossible to straighten :-X Anyway I'm sure the new haircut is cool and not happened like this http://9gag.com/gag/4688488 (http://9gag.com/gag/4688488) ;D
Nope, not like that at all thankfully. I actually went into a walk-in hairdressers for the first time and had trouble getting someone to cut it because they couldn't find anyone free who would do men's cuts (this was right after dropping my moped off for a service and the bloke asking if my mum had phoned to book it because he'd written down Mrs ___ in the book) so I was feeling pretty good and actually dared go into shops that only sell men's clothes for the first time ever. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6p6uwn3Ab1rtuog4o1_500.jpg (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6p6uwn3Ab1rtuog4o1_500.jpg) that's it now.
Quote from: Wil Najera on July 04, 2012, 06:33:00 PM
i know right? seriously? the way i wear my clothes is no ones business. everyone is entitled to what they feel comfortble with. for everyone's information, i'm very self conscious about wearing my pants higher than that. so yeah, the question wasnt "do you like my underware?", it was "do i pass?" :D
thanks :)
You're right man. But I think the guys just wanted to help you with the advices :)
Quote from: AlecSky on July 05, 2012, 12:24:30 PM
Nope, not like that at all thankfully. I actually went into a walk-in hairdressers for the first time and had trouble getting someone to cut it because they couldn't find anyone free who would do men's cuts (this was right after dropping my moped off for a service and the bloke asking if my mum had phoned to book it because he'd written down Mrs ___ in the book) so I was feeling pretty good and actually dared go into shops that only sell men's clothes for the first time ever. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6p6uwn3Ab1rtuog4o1_500.jpg (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6p6uwn3Ab1rtuog4o1_500.jpg) that's it now.
Awesome ;D it felt great right? ;D and the new haircut is lookin' good ;D
LOL :laugh:
Quote from: Morgan. on July 01, 2012, 04:30:35 AM
Any advice guys? I got a new shirt today so I was feeling pretty nifty.
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No advice (none needed imo, I think you pass great) but I do love your shirt. Looks good on you!
Quote from: ForWantOf on July 06, 2012, 12:57:10 AM
No advice (none needed imo, I think you pass great) but I do love your shirt. Looks good on you!
Thanks man! It's my favourite movie. The shirt was marked down by over half too. Couldn't say no. ;D
AlecSky - 100% pass IMHO.
Morgan
Alec
Wil
Squirrel
Traivs
All seem to pass pretty well. Alec looks a lot like a friend's son, so like a very young guy.
Also, Alec...
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You seem to be flinching. If you don't want that guy, can you send him to NH, pls? K, thx, bye.
Quote from: dalebert on July 06, 2012, 09:34:57 AM
You seem to be flinching. If you don't want that guy, can you send him to NH, pls? K, thx, bye.
Haha you're welcome to him, I'm perfectly happy with my girlfriend.
Thanks for all the comments guys :)
I hit 8 months on T today. This is the video I made:
8 months on testosterone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRmbwac2hB8&feature=plcp#)
:)
Total pass, Morgan. Great voice.
Thanks Kreuz! Looking good in your avatar pic mate.
Aww, thankies!! ;D
Morgan, your voice is amazing. Total pass, man!
Quote from: AlecSky on July 03, 2012, 08:23:15 AM
I don't really care about how you wear your clothes as long as you're decent but personally I think if you are gonna wear them low it looks better when you're wearing tighter boxers so you don't get that flappy bit hanging out. Just my personal feelings.
Just got a few photos from prom, one of them I didn't know were being taken which I think is a better judge if I pass than if I knew.
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Mild pass on the first one, but definitely no pass in the others. Maybe it's the cheeks?
Either way, you'll def pass with T.
Morgan - solid pass, your voice is crazy deep! congrats man
Alec - Hmmm. You're very borderline to me... what throws me off is that I see you as 12-14 but given the setting in the pics it looks like you're 18+. A pass for me in person would probably depend on your voice. I agree with Adam though, if you choose to go on T you will pass very well.
Quote from: lexical on July 07, 2012, 06:44:28 PM
Alec - Hmmm. You're very borderline to me... what throws me off is that I see you as 12-14 but given the setting in the pics it looks like you're 18+. A pass for me in person would probably depend on your voice. I agree with Adam though, if you choose to go on T you will pass very well.
I'm not allowed to post my actual age (seems a bit weird, I'm old enough to have a kid or join the army but not say how old I am on the internet yet... but whatever, rules are rules) but I'm younger than 18. I know that my voice doesn't pass over the phone, but I've never had someone correct themselves when they've heard me speak in person so I'm not sure if my nerves at calling people have anything to do with that or I just look young enough to still have a higher voice. I do agree with Adam though that the cheeks are an issue. T is a possibility for the future, I know I want to go on it at some point, but at the minute I'm trying not to do anything about transitioning as I feel it will be too much pain for not enough gain until I'm old enough to access T here.
Morgan awesome voice man. Definitely sound male.
Quote from: AlecSky on July 07, 2012, 07:00:10 PM
I'm not allowed to post my actual age (seems a bit weird, I'm old enough to have a kid or join the army but not say how old I am on the internet yet... but whatever, rules are rules) but I'm younger than 18. I know that my voice doesn't pass over the phone, but I've never had someone correct themselves when they've heard me speak in person so I'm not sure if my nerves at calling people have anything to do with that or I just look young enough to still have a higher voice. I do agree with Adam though that the cheeks are an issue. T is a possibility for the future, I know I want to go on it at some point, but at the minute I'm trying not to do anything about transitioning as I feel it will be too much pain for not enough gain until I'm old enough to access T here.
Oh ok, so you're under 18... that definitely helps since you're not trying to pass for 20s. Yeah I can understand your wanting to wait for T. I think your appearance is andro enough now that T should be able to narrow any gap between you passing and actual age so I wouldn't sweat it too much.
Quote from: Morgan. on July 06, 2012, 09:40:50 PM
I hit 8 months on T today...
Your voice is really impressive.
My voice is rather deep too, but I don't even think it holds a candle to yours.
xD
Quote from: henri on July 07, 2012, 04:27:10 PM
Morgan, your voice is amazing. Total pass, man!
Quote from: lexical on July 07, 2012, 06:44:28 PM
Morgan - solid pass, your voice is crazy deep! congrats man
Quote from: Traivs on July 07, 2012, 07:02:15 PM
Morgan awesome voice man. Definitely sound male.
Quote from: JasonRX on July 07, 2012, 07:48:11 PM
Your voice is really impressive.
My voice is rather deep too, but I don't even think it holds a candle to yours.
xD
Thanks guys! You've all made my day haha. I noticed I had a big drop between this month and last month's video. Hopefully I'm not at the deepest it'll be just yet! But if it stayed at this, I would be happy too. :)
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Can I pass while smiling yet?
nygeel- passing much better. :) i think it's confidence. :)
morgan- jealious as HELL of the voice. kudos man. you should be very proud.
so i cut my hair a different style than i've ever had, what do you guys think? does it help me pass better? i think profile view of my face is better now. but let me know what you guys think.
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I thought you passed pretty well before the haircut but perhaps even a little better now.
thank you dalebert. :)
Quote from: Wil Najera on July 09, 2012, 09:04:26 PM
so i cut my hair a different style than i've ever had, what do you guys think? does it help me pass better? i think profile view of my face is better now. but let me know what you guys think.
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I don't think you look female at all anyway, but just curious why you'd post a pic with a hat on for us to determine if your hair passes from front view ;)
cuz it looked the best with the hat. haha. i can post another without the hat if it helps. and thank you very much. :) i'm glad i dont look female at all. that makes my day. :) here's a non-hat front view. just had my coworker take it. haha.
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Quote from: Wil Najera on July 12, 2012, 07:51:35 PM
cuz it looked the best with the hat. haha. i can post another without the hat if it helps. and thank you very much. :) i'm glad i dont look female at all. that makes my day. :) here's a non-hat front view. just had my coworker take it. haha.
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I read you as male, but unfortunately, it's probably at a age that is much younger than your actual one. However, a lot of guys have this problem pre-HRT, so you're not alone.
yeah, i'm 22, and i get told i look like a 19 year old guy at best in person. but in pics i look like 15-16. haha. it's all good. once i get my manly beard hair i'll be good to go. :)
Quote from: Wil Najera on July 12, 2012, 09:50:21 PM
yeah, i'm 22, and i get told i look like a 19 year old guy at best in person. but in pics i look like 15-16. haha. it's all good. once i get my manly beard hair i'll be good to go. :)
Unfortunately, I think you look younger than that. Your frame appears slightly small to me for me to read you as the average guy around that age. I'd likely read you as 12-14 right now, unless you are incredibly tall. Sorry, if that's not what you wanted to hear, but it's just my personal opinion.
However, you definitely are more than capable of passing and that at least is a good thing.
:)
Wil, I think you could pass for 18 going by that picture if your voice is ok 8) But I wouldnt say any older. Also there is nothing about you that makes you look like a girl :)
Wil Id agree that you pass well, but to me you look around 15. But still, a good pass!
Quote from: Wil Najera on July 12, 2012, 09:50:21 PM
yeah, i'm 22, and i get told i look like a 19 year old guy at best in person. but in pics i look like 15-16. haha. it's all good. once i get my manly beard hair i'll be good to go. :)
Lol your getting everything from 12-19 years old, that's quite a range. I think your body frame looks around 12-14 but your face looks around 14-16 to me. Your right though T will sort it out. I looked REALLY young before T. I don't think anyone would have questioned it if I'd have said I was 10 lol.
I'm 5 1/2 months on T I look older now for sure but I still get a good look over everytime I try to buy a 15 rated product. Thankfully though I haven't been refused yet so I must just look 15 now.
In terms of passing I think you do very well.
I got misgendered yet again last night so I'm assuming that I'm not at a point where passing+smiling is going to happen.
:(
I'm sorry to hear that, Nygeel. I do think that you have been making some great progress though, and hopefully that will extend to some smile passing soon! Hang in there dude :)
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Ended up buzzing it off.
@Nygeel, I like the short hair...and to the earlier comment, smilling doesn't seem like an option for us...I tend to get misgendered when I do but maybe that'll change once I get my pyshic up
Quote from: JayKyle on July 14, 2012, 12:47:55 AM
@Nygeel, I like the short hair...and to the earlier comment, smilling doesn't seem like an option for us...I tend to get misgendered when I do but maybe that'll change once I get my pyshic up
Eh, I got misgendered last night by a police officer (he was a friend of some of the people I was with) when I wasn't smiling. The whole passing thing isn't in the cards right now.
Quote from: Squirrel698 on June 28, 2012, 11:48:50 AM
I hate to be pushy but this is a bit of an emergency. I'm about to go swimming in public so please let me know. I know everyone says it, but sorry about the quality of the pictures. I'm honestly most worried about the packer. No matter what I do it just doesn't feel right or even decent to me. :P In case you don't know me, I'm two years on T. This is the swimsuit from LoveBoat. Thank you all :)
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>:O
It's you, and I am glad. I think you are a very handsome man.
JayKyle - Looking at that picture, I went back and forth thinking you pass and you dont. I wouldnt automatically think male, but I think you definitely have passing potential :)
Nygeel - As others have said, we can see progress. I think shaving the hair off has helped, but to your earlier question, I dont think you pass smiling yet unfortunately.
Quote from: Nygeel on July 14, 2012, 12:44:16 AM
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Ended up buzzing it off.
Nygeel, I think a lot of people have the passing while smiling issue. But here you are passing much better. Making good progress bud.
Quote from: JayKyle on July 14, 2012, 12:20:41 AM
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This must be the Leon Kennedy haircut. ;D Very nice. I'd love if I could pull it off, but I don't think I can.
As for passing...it's kind of iffy for me as well.
Quote from: Nygeel on July 14, 2012, 12:59:24 AM
Eh, I got misgendered last night by a police officer (he was a friend of some of the people I was with) when I wasn't smiling. The whole passing thing isn't in the cards right now.
I don't know, I think you're almost there, especially with the shorter hair. It seems more traditionally male to me, at least it is in this area. I don't think it'll be long before you're passing much better, and is that a bit of facial hair I can just see?
Quote from: AlecSky on July 14, 2012, 12:10:09 PM
I don't know, I think you're almost there, especially with the shorter hair. It seems more traditionally male to me, at least it is in this area. I don't think it'll be long before you're passing much better, and is that a bit of facial hair I can just see?
The result of 2 months of not shaving. It really only grows on the underside of my chin/neck and sideburns area.
seen here (http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6vozu9JzL1qal7xro2_1280.jpg)
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Quote from: Nygeel on July 14, 2012, 12:42:17 PM
The result of 2 months of not shaving. It really only grows on the underside of my chin/neck and sideburns area.
seen here (http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6vozu9JzL1qal7xro2_1280.jpg)
and here (http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6vozu9JzL1qal7xro1_1280.jpg)
I really quite struggle to see how people can misgender you when you have pretty clearly visible facial hair, even if it's not that thick or all over. Quite confusing...
Quote from: AlecSky on July 14, 2012, 06:01:56 PM
I really quite struggle to see how people can misgender you when you have pretty clearly visible facial hair, even if it's not that thick or all over. Quite confusing...
Unfortunately for Nygeel, there are women that have small amounts of facial hair due to PCOS, ethnic background, etc... though he has some growth, it's not quite "definitively male" yet. But he's definitely getting there.
Quote from: lexical on July 14, 2012, 08:07:56 PM
Unfortunately for Nygeel, there are women that have small amounts of facial hair due to PCOS, ethnic background, etc... though he has some growth, it's not quite "definitively male" yet. But he's definitely getting there.
This. Most of the older women I work with have chin hairs.
Quote from: lexical on July 14, 2012, 08:07:56 PM
Unfortunately for Nygeel, there are women that have small amounts of facial hair due to PCOS, ethnic background, etc... though he has some growth, it's not quite "definitively male" yet. But he's definitely getting there.
Agreed.
Honestly, if I were him, I would shave what I have off and hope for better next time it grows back.
There's no guarantee that the root is darkening and thickening, since shaving doesn't really cause that, but if you continue to let lighter hairs grow out, that's mostly what people are going to say and those light hairs usually aren't going to change that all that significantly as long as they are there...
Quote from: JasonRX on July 14, 2012, 08:38:26 PM
Agreed.
Honestly, if I were him, I would shave what I have off and hope for better next time it grows back.
There's no guarantee that the root is darkening and thickening, since shaving doesn't really cause that, but if you continue to let lighter hairs grow out, that's mostly what people are going to say and those light hairs usually aren't going to change that all that significantly as long as they are there...
I shave it all off (from my face, pervs!) once a month or every other month. It's about the same color/thickness as my leg and belly hairs, so I'm not sure if they'd thicken.
It's sort of strange/silly/weird/ironic (am I using that word wrong) that when I was maybe 3 months on T people were saying it'd just be another month and now it's 17 months later, same general place. Also...why the heck am I the only one out of my younger brothers that has facial hair growing in this way?
The youngest had thick sideburns and his chin grown out and super duper visible really easily and has no neck/underneath chin hair.
Quote from: Nygeel on July 14, 2012, 08:50:56 PM
I shave it all off (from my face, pervs!) once a month or every other month. It's about the same color/thickness as my leg and belly hairs, so I'm not sure if they'd thicken.
Guys with little to no body hair can have really thick facial hair.
Guys with little to no facial hair can also have really thick body hair.
The two are totally unrelated as it's dependent on how sensitive each individual follicle receptor is to testosterone.
I don't see your point - and I still suggest shaving it off and trying again, because improvement will happen eventually.
Quote from: JasonRX on July 14, 2012, 09:06:41 PM
Guys with little to no body hair can have really thick facial hair.
Guys with little to no facial hair can also have really thick body hair.
The two are totally unrelated as it's dependent on how sensitive each individual follicle receptor is to testosterone.
I don't see your point - and I still suggest shaving it off and trying again, because improvement will happen eventually.
My point is that all of my hair everywhere (minus my head) is relatively thin and light. Sure, it's likely that my facial hair will get darker eventually but shaving would mean no visible facial hair, and not shaving means thin visible facial hair. I lose either way.
Nygeel, have you considered dying it a darker shade? I'm not sure how well that would work, but it might be worth a shot.
Quote from: Nygeel on July 14, 2012, 08:50:56 PM
I shave it all off (from my face, pervs!) once a month or every other month. It's about the same color/thickness as my leg and belly hairs, so I'm not sure if they'd thicken.
It's sort of strange/silly/weird/ironic (am I using that word wrong) that when I was maybe 3 months on T people were saying it'd just be another month and now it's 17 months later, same general place. Also...why the heck am I the only one out of my younger brothers that has facial hair growing in this way?
The youngest had thick sideburns and his chin grown out and super duper visible really easily and has no neck/underneath chin hair.
Just because you are siblings with a person, even full blooded sibs (same mother and father) doesn't mean you will look like them. I am 5'4" fair skinned, light brown eyes, burn easy, with light brown hair, straight bodied and heavyset. My sister is 5'2" dark skinned, dark brown eyes, dark brown hair, curvy and thin. I had teachers in high school straight up ask if one of us was adopted. My brother is 6'3" dark hair, medium skin, and dark eyes. He's like a mixture of us both. It's just a thing.
some people are just ment to be hairy
i'm preT still and have no body hair and only 1 corse hair on my chin, my sister however (natural female always will be) would be a gorilla if her body hairs were darker.
so if its ment to be its ment to be
Just over 2 months on T, thought i'd get some opinions...
http://instagram.com/p/NHg25Dg2WA/ (http://instagram.com/p/NHg25Dg2WA/)
I do pass the majority of the time, but never for my actual age. I think most people think i'm about 13/14 haha
@Make_It_Good I do the same thing, I'm not sure if its a good cut or not...i think I might have to look into some plastic surgery since i have such a soft jaw :/
@PaPa Taco Yeah, the cutter left the left side a little long but I think it looks a little better/lets me pass a little better than where I was before.
Quote from: KingConq on July 15, 2012, 06:38:40 PM
Just over 2 months on T, thought i'd get some opinions...
http://instagram.com/p/NHg25Dg2WA/ (http://instagram.com/p/NHg25Dg2WA/)
I do pass the majority of the time, but never for my actual age. I think most people think i'm about 13/14 haha
You pass to me mate, yeah as maybe 14 years old but it's a pass all the same
hey i'am back agai didt post for a long time so i still pass ???
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peace.
Quote from: jossef-ftm on July 19, 2012, 06:52:13 AM
hey i'am back agai didt post for a long time so i still pass ???
The location you've posted your pictures does not appear to be publicly accessible. I am a big fan of http://imgur.com (http://imgur.com) for free hosting of pictures.
@jossef-ftm I think you do as a young teenager 15-17(not sure your current age lol)...but yes, for me you do.
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on February 13, 2012, 12:32:31 PM
yo im pre evrythin rite now ill be on T and get top surgery in about a year luckily.
so wat do u guys think?
btw ik ik ik i hav a baby face i ->-bleeped-<-in hate it but thers nuthin i can do bout it
pass, but for really young. like 12-14. Atleast thats what I see
Quote from: jossef-ftm on July 19, 2012, 06:52:13 AM
hey i'am back agai didt post for a long time so i still pass ???
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww7.0zz0.com%2F2012%2F07%2F19%2F11%2F800939894.jpg&hash=333f2ff996eb3e5e5bbc2ceb4514a6efcf3bcd24) (http://www.0zz0.com)
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peace.
Total pass. You look like my cousin XD.
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Do I pass? My hair still isn't cut short, but it will be in about 3 weeks. I'm also looking at names and I really like Benjamin/Ben. But my given name is Sasha, and that's pretty gender neutral. What do you guys think? I'm 18, if anyone needs the reference.
jossef, you look great man :) i would never misgender you if i saw you on the street, you look young though (not sure your real age) around 15-17. LilRingo in my own opinion i'm not sure you pass yet, 1st picture is a no pass from me. The second has the potential. It could be your round face and the eyes. you also look really really young like around 12 or 13. I'm not sure how you could make it a pass, without hardening your features with T lol also i think Ben would suit you better than Sasha but its your decision :P But, i think that if your trying hard to pass, people will think your female with the name Sasha.
@LilRingo, for me its a little iffy...you have a bit of a baby face (sorry) so its hard to tell...maybe as a very young man like 13-14 but its still a little on the questionable side...i'd probably have to know you to know for sure but in the pics its just hard to tell, sorry (I know thats not what you want to hear :( as for the name, i like the Benjamin, its sounds great :D
LilRingo, to me you actually pass better in the first picture as apposed to the second. It could possibly have something to do with the more "masculine" facial expression you've got going on in that one. The second picture is very iffy, it could go either way but if as a male I'd say very young, around 13. I'm not sure how you would pass in person, it would really depend on your mannerisms and voice.
LilRingo - I'd say that you passed for a very young guy, slightly better in the second photo than the first, but definitely nowhere near your real age, sorry. I think Ben suits you really well though.
LilRingo-- agree with most here. Pass for a really young guy.
This is actor Sasha Mitchell. Very good-looking guy. I do have to admit though, it threw me when I heard his name. That was my education that Sasha could be a guy's name. It still sounds feminine to me.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAHupE.jpg&hash=d78054f856031dd28064538832b855972f5c502c)
Jensen (from Supernatural TV show) is another guy's name that sounds a bit like a lady's name to me but for some reason has settled in for me as a guy's name. Here he is looking pretty badass so that it won't be completely off topic. :)
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Quote from: dalebert on July 20, 2012, 09:56:35 AM
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someday im going to look like that :D
Quote from: JayKyle on July 20, 2012, 04:31:08 PM
someday im going to look like that :D
When that day happens, will you pls somehow turn gay for me? ;)
Quote from: dalebert on July 20, 2012, 10:38:14 PM
When that day happens, will you pls somehow turn gay for me? ;)
haha i don't think you have to worry about that last part :laugh: roflmao
i know i pass in pictures. but what about video? i know my voice doesnt pass alone but i pass really well in public usually. how about my mannerisms and everything though? if i pass to you what age?
LOVE YOURSELF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XBt2vijM5E&list=UUMDltDEHRwdZBE_YewTAHJg&index=1&feature=plcp#)
Michael Joseph - you definitely pass as male to me, I'd pin you at 16-18. From the vid it seemed to me that you speak with some hesitance, which seems to be more common among younger guys. I'm thinking it might be because your voice hasn't lowered to the male range -- to me now it sounds more andro, leaning towards the masculine end of the female range. That along with the young face and no visible facial hair would put you in the teenage range for me.
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>_< My hair isn't usually this flat ;D
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>_< My hair isn't usually this flat ;D
To me, you definitely pass.
Your jaw looks unusually small, but I don't know if that's just how it is normally. I only pointed out because sometimes people experience water retention in their face while being within the first six months to a year on testosterone. Anyway, you still pass regardless.
yeah :/ its mostly the angle i guess in there, I'm uploading a recent voice clip to youtube (with video) - but thats gonna take a while - I'm still losing lots of weight so my jaw looks silly for the moment ^_^
but glad you think i pass :D
if it ever finishes uploading ill share here - though its mostly just me ranting ^_^
Michael, you definitely pass to me. I agree that you seem young, but I think a lot of that is from shyness.
Geek, you definitely pass to me based on your face.
I know I don't pass, but could I maybe get some tips? I am wearing a binder in the pictures and have flattened my chest as much as I can, but I know that's not enough.
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Edge, you pass to me as a young teenager...
Quote from: Hayzer12 on July 22, 2012, 11:56:05 AM
Edge, you pass to me as a young teenager...
I'm 24...
Edge, your body definitely passes as male to me. Face is harder to tell though.
Edge, to me you definitely pass but as Hayzer said, your age appears to be about a 13-14 year old teen. Usually the only thing that can solve that problem is T, so if you plan on going on it that should help you in the future. It sucks to pass so young and have people interact with you that way when you're much older.
Got the side of my hair trimmed again since it was growing out funny. Does it look better or worse do you think? And passing wise, do I still just look dykish? (I think my other pic was on the previous page lol)
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JayKyle, I'm not sure whether or not it is better or worse, but I don't really think you pass in this picture. Most times I have seen that sort of hairstyle it has been on females, so it takes the ambiguous features of your face and makes me think female.
Jaykyle, I like the hair but it doesn't allow you to pass...
I think only someone on T would ever be able to pull that off and still look male
Quote from: henri on July 22, 2012, 01:52:52 PM
JayKyle, I'm not sure whether or not it is better or worse, but I don't really think you pass in this picture. Most times I have seen that sort of hairstyle it has been on females, so it takes the ambiguous features of your face and makes me think female.
This
@ JayKyle:
I read you as androgynous in that picture. Not androgynous female or androgynous male. Just androgynous. If I saw you in person I probably wouldn't have a clue as to how I should address you and would probably go off of your mannerisms and voice. If you walked like a dude, dressed liked a dude, and spoke like a dude, then I'd go with male pronouns. If not, then I'd probably use female pronouns. Or none at all.
The hairstyle, I think, is what makes me read androgynous but I've seen it on a lot of guys where I live.
JayKyle: You look pretty similar to a cismale friend of mine who either identifies as andro or female (I don't really know which) in both facial features and hair, which throws me off quite a lot. If you had facial hair/stubble then I'd read you as male, but otherwise I'd not be sure at all. I feel like more tapered hair/black hair would look more masculine if you wanted to keep it roughly in that style but I don't know if that's the look you're going for or if it really would make much difference. I'd probably not have a clue how to read you and go off your body/mannerisms/what name you told me (but if your name is Jay Kyle I might still be confused but leaning more to the male side of confused). From what I can see your shoulders seem pretty broad and masculine though.
@arawn one of my male friends convinced me to go with this style out of many i had tentively picked. And at this point in time, andro is better than female, so that makes me happy lol
@AlecSky I'm actually thinking about dying it with black/indigo henna (the herbal not salon junk) but im not sure how it will turn out either. As for the cut, it probably needs a slight bit more tweeking but I can't seem to find a stylist that cuts it just right but I won't have to wait too long for it to grow out and I can get it fixed or see how things turn out.
Thanks for the input guys!
edge- def male to me. maybe around 19 years old.
Quote from: Nygeel on July 14, 2012, 12:44:16 AM
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Ended up buzzing it off.
nygeel you look good are you still loosing weight because its working although your eyes still look very pretty which looks a bit feminine but you definitely pass in this picture.
got a haircut. pass? tips? do i look 14?
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Quote from: ty.to.the.man on July 23, 2012, 07:14:09 PM
got a haircut. pass? tips? do i look 14?
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yes, it's a definite pass. and you do look about 13-14. it's hard on us all to look older without t... i'm 22 and people still think i'm like 14. lol.
Yeah, you definitely pass ty, but you do look pretty young.
Quote from: Wil Najera on July 23, 2012, 08:23:06 PM
yes, it's a definite pass. and you do look about 13-14. it's hard on us all to look older without t... i'm 22 and people still think i'm like 14. lol.
He is on Androgel and I believe he asked if he is read around age fourteen as a male because that's how old he actually is. ;p
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on July 23, 2012, 07:14:09 PM
got a haircut. pass? tips? do i look 14?
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Yep. Male and 14ish.
Quote from: JasonRX on July 23, 2012, 10:02:38 PM
He is on Androgel and I believe he asked if he is read around age fourteen as a male because that's how old he actually is. ;p
This :) - I THOUGHT he was on androgel .. glad someone else said that so I didn't feel like I was going mad
Ty you seriously pass really well. You look around 14.. I would believe 15 or 16 as well. I wish I could have started T when I was a teenager haha
Ty is such a blessed kid.
He should definitely give me a call in 4 years. :P
Quote from: Aeris on July 24, 2012, 02:15:27 AM
Ty is such a blessed kid.
He should definitely give me a call in 4 years. :P
If only you'd stop aging too.
;)
So, I always hated getting my picture taken, it's totally different from self-shots where you have control over the final outcome.
I pass in real life, haven't gotten "she'd" in a long time... but yeah how'm I looking?
Ty, I think you look 14 :) The gel really seems to be working well. I also really like you haircut, thats pretty much the exact style I want to get mine cut like but I dont think I would pass (or even suit/look good) with it. Maybe one day ;D
tvc15, I think it is nice picture! And you look 100% male to me!
Ty and tvc15, both complete passes to me. I'd never doubt that either of you were male for a second.
Quote from: tvc15 on July 24, 2012, 03:30:34 AM
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Pass as a teen.
thanks everybody! ;D
Quote from: tvc15 on July 24, 2012, 03:30:34 AM
I pass in real life, haven't gotten "she'd" in a long time... but yeah how'm I looking?
You sort of look like this guy I used to go to school with in this picture, so yeah, you definitely look male here.
:)
gel in hair:
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no gel:
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another:
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You pass to me, spacerace.
yeah thats a pass for me as well space
Quote from: spacerace on July 24, 2012, 10:59:19 PM
You pass better with your hair gelled to me.
I don't know how old you actually are, but I would assume you were around 14-15 years old if I saw you out and about.
Quote from: Edge on July 24, 2012, 11:06:21 PM
You pass to me, spacerace.
Quote from: JayKyle on July 25, 2012, 11:05:11 AM
yeah thats a pass for me as well space
cool, thanks guys, that's progress.
Quote from: JasonRX on July 25, 2012, 11:40:28 AM
You pass better with your hair gelled to me.
I don't know how old you actually are, but I would assume you were around 14-15 years old if I saw you out and about.
thanks, I was wondering which passed better - I think gelled looks better too. I need to work on looking older in a major way... I'm in my late 20's, my guess is it will take T and patience.
@ SpaceRace : Definite pass, You remind me of Brad Arnold. Lead singer of Three Doors Down.
Last year:
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Now:
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damn man t worked wonders on you. i hope i look half as good when i start
JohnAlex...T was fantastic on the shape of your face
Quote from: Afakasii on July 26, 2012, 03:10:38 AM
@ SpaceRace : Definite pass, You remind me of Brad Arnold. Lead singer of Three Doors Down.
thanks
Quote from: JohnAlex on July 27, 2012, 04:01:04 AM
Last year:
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Now:
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As others have said, you look great.
But I also think it would've also been more beneficial to post pictures from similar angles for a more proper comparison.
:)
John Alex you are looking so good! I remember you from last year and you were having trouble passing but now I can't see how anyone would see you as anything other than male! Nice genetics you have there 8) T is working like magic on you!
@Nygeel: It's still a little hard for me to tell, the haircut makes you look more masculine though, it could go either way.
@ty.to.the.man: pass and you look 14.
@tvc15: You look great!
@spacerace: Hard to tell, but I think you could pass.
@JohnAlex: Wow! Can totally see a change. You look great! Totally pass.
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I know I pass in pics, just wondering if my facial hair passes? It's fake. Unfortunately I can't grows too much right now. Just hoping it at least passes in pics.
It's a bit blurry, but from what I can see it looks pretty realistic, Dominick.
You look great Dominick. Even imagining the facial hair gone, you look really good, and of course passing.
@edderkopp and @dalebert: Thanks guys.
If the facial hair looks like it does in the pic, then yeah it passes
@Hayzer12: Thanks.
This post is less "do I pass?" and more "WHY don't I pass?" I simply don't, maybe 95% of the time...I don't know what it is about northerners but they seem to insist on adding a gender specific endearment on to everything they say :P so I constantly have to hear "darling" or "flower" tacked on to the end of every sentence by bus drivers and shop assistants. Or "excuse me miss"/"ask that lady" while I'm at work. It makes me cringe not only for obvious reasons but because if these people are seeing me as female, I must look SO butt ugly to them. I look in the mirror and see an average looking guy, but if I force myself to look as myself and see a girl...man she is ugly and weird looking :D
Anyway enough rambling, on to the pictures:
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My good side...the side with less acne :P there is more acne on my other cheek than the pictures suggest, I guess the flash washed it out
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I've worn glasses all my life, but I included a picture without glasses for comparison...as you can see because I've worn them so long I have that creepy sunken eye look :P but if not wearing them helps me pass I would gladly switch to contacts
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Feel free to be brutally honest! You will not offend me, I genuinely want to know what's hindering me and if I can change it.
Hey Jeatyn,
That really sucks about the constant misgendering, and Im sorry to hear that for you.
In the Midlands, I swear it seems to be a thing also of always putting some gendering tag on the end of sentences. I used to despised hearing that "Thanks, duck". (But on the other hand, being called "mate" all the time now is great).
Ok, so onto the hopefully helpful honesty.
In your first picture, I think it your hip width in contrast with your leg length, makes it look like you have a curvy shape. Bulking up more (which I know can be difficult, especially pre T) will help as itll make you look more muscular/stocky.
In your close up pictures, to me its your mouth area that looks most feminine. I think your face shape is nothing to worry about, I think its fine and a great start for T to be working from. Your jawline isnt the softest Ive seen, and your cheeks dont seem so "full" as they do with women or guys pre T, which I think really adds to looking more female when people have full cheeks.
Im not too sure though what to suggest unfortunately, as you cant exactly change your mouth :/ T will help masculinize the features of your face, but for now Im not sure what to say.
The way youre dressing is fine. Maybe try to experiment abit more, using the clothes you like, to try to help make your shoulders look broader and take the focus away from the hips. How though, I have no idea :p I know nothing about fashion, so hopefully someone else can chime in here.
But, though it may take quite a while to experience good progress from where you are already, I just want to say to keep persevering and try not to let things get to you too much. I, as pretty much all of us here, know how it feels, and the frustration with it all. But just keep pushing forward, as its better than going backward.
Good luck.
Oh, and I just remembered, youre starting T around Thursday arent you...?
So, hopefully that badboy will work wonders asap and reduce that misgendering from 95% down to 0!
I am very curvy yes, there's a 10 inch difference between the smallest part of my waist and the biggest part of my hips >.> and with small shoulders, once I bind, I am the ultimate pear shape
I go to the gym 3 times a week and have a treadmill at home I use regularly but my body seems EXTREMELY adamant to hold on to the weight and the curviness, and refuses to gain any significant muscle.
It's encouraging to hear that it's not my face. I'm hoping beyond hope that once I start T (any day now, just trying to get around supply issues) I will see some actual gains from all the weight training I do and some actual hip loss from all the running.
I struggle to find shirts that will fit me properly because of the hip to shoulder ratio, I experimented with shoulder pads for a while but it looked off, not sure I was using them right :P so I end up with them being super long once they're a big enough size to go over my hips, drowning my already short stature xD
I spent a lot of time in the midlands...duck was always a confusing one for me. It can be used for either gender depending on the person...an old lady will call a young boy "duck" but not so much if the ages were similar. I'd be over the moon to be called mate!
Jeatyn: imo, your face just looks quite young and smooth. But you do have features that suggest to me that T will help you pass quite quickly once your skin changes a bit. :)
Jeatyn I think you pass better with the glasses on :)
@Jeatyn I agree with Jared, I think you pass better when you wear the glasses. Maybe you should invest in more masculine frames? :)
Actually I wear glasses too and I find it helps make my face look much more masculine if I wear the frames that have only cover the top half of the lenses. Sorry if I make no sense but I am really tired :D
Thanks guys ^_^
I'm not a fan of the frames with just the top bit....it makes the sunken eye thing really magnified so I look like I haven't slept for a billion years.
I've not had these frames long, and I spent hoooours picking them out, they seem to be the best ones for my face shape.
Yeah I also have glasses framed just on the top, but what Jeatyn said, makes sense to me seeing the pics :) You'll look great, don't worry :)
hey everyone. This is my first ever post on susans site. but I really want some outside advice about passing... I all of the pictures I am not packing or binding. The full body one I know I don't pass at all but what do you think my body looks girly in the partially skinny jeans? Anyway I'm pre-t. So do I pass and how old do I look?
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THanks everyone!
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I fixed the pics for you so they will show up here without folks having to link to them. I think you pass but for a 10-12 year old boy.Quote from: jonas42 on August 03, 2012, 12:18:53 AM
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Thanks Andy! Also, I'm 5'10" I don't think there are many 10-12 year old guys that are that tall, what would that do to my passing? masculine girl, fem guy?
I could see someone thinking you were a teen boy early in puberty. I believe my brother hit 6 foot when he was 13/14. But when you are trying to pass for your age I think you will be taken for a masculine girl.
Okay, thanks again Andy!
Jonas42, I think your face passes well in the two pictures that dont show your body :) You look about 14 to me. In the second picture, Im not sure what it is, but if I cover your head with my thumb, your body looks fine and passes really well. Maybe it is just the expression you have on your face? Or maybe it is your hair in that picture? Oh and I wish I was 5"10! :P
Quote from: jonas42 on August 03, 2012, 12:36:42 AM
Thanks Andy! Also, I'm 5'10" I don't think there are many 10-12 year old guys that are that tall, what would that do to my passing? masculine girl, fem guy?
My 13 year old bro is about your height now, it's unusual but not that unusual. You pass to me.
hi there im new here and i can finally put up a picture to see yalls opinion on if after a while do you think i could pass after a while on hrt? thanks! btw its my profile picture lol
Jonas: You look like a young teenage guy in both of the photos of your face, and your body passes fine to me in the full body photo but something about the face/hair there doesn't look quite right, I think maybe it would help if you cut the back of your hair a little shorter because from that angle it looks a little like a pony tail or something but it might be fine in real life because it's more obvious that it's not.
cbergusn: You pass completely to me in your profile pic. For some reason I feel like you should be an Olympic swimmer, don't ask me why :P
Quote from: Alex000000 on August 03, 2012, 09:06:14 AM
cbergusn: You pass completely to me in your profile pic. For some reason I feel like you should be an Olympic swimmer, don't ask me why :P
Pretty sure cbergusm is asking about HRT as in estrogen.
Quote from: jonas42 on August 03, 2012, 12:36:42 AM
Thanks Andy! Also, I'm 5'10" I don't think there are many 10-12 year old guys that are that tall, what would that do to my passing? masculine girl, fem guy?
I think with your height, people will think you're a mid-teens boy. Your voice might change that quickly though, without knowing what it sounds like.
Quote from: Adio on August 03, 2012, 09:39:52 AM
Pretty sure cbergusm is asking about HRT as in estrogen.
Oh right, my mistake sorry, I just saw the thread and assumed T
jonas: pass but i'd say only around 10-12
Thanks everyone for you input!
Harlee- Yeah I was making a weird face there. My hair has really grown out desperately need a haircut. The problem that I can't drive yet so my mom has to come every time and make sure they know I'm a "girl." Last time I went to get it cut without any parents and I passed even with my girl name. If I can get my hair cut without my mom pacing back and forth telling them to make it feminine and "she's a girl" ten times a minute then it works out okay. Careful planning for when my mom is out next....
I have passed with my voice before, I think it is kind of androgynous sounding...
thanks alex lol. and the funny thing about what you said though about looking like an olympic swimmer is that i was a state champion swimmer in high school for 3 years lol so i guess you have a good eye for those things lol
u look 11 or 12 but ur adorable, This could just be me but to me ur head looks a little too small for ur body but it could just be the cloths, but ur body looks like a guys.
Quote from: jonas42 on August 03, 2012, 12:18:53 AM
hey everyone. This is my first ever post on susans site. but I really want some outside advice about passing... I all of the pictures I am not packing or binding. The full body one I know I don't pass at all but what do you think my body looks girly in the partially skinny jeans? Anyway I'm pre-t. So do I pass and how old do I look?
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THanks everyone!
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Quote from: jonas42 on August 03, 2012, 12:18:53 AM
hey everyone. This is my first ever post on susans site. but I really want some outside advice about passing... I all of the pictures I am not packing or binding. The full body one I know I don't pass at all but what do you think my body looks girly in the partially skinny jeans? Anyway I'm pre-t. So do I pass and how old do I look?
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THanks everyone!
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you look a lot like my nephew lol. I think you pass fine
Hey guys and girls! I just got my hair cut this past week, and want to see if i pass better now :) I'm Ok with looking young for now, that doesn't bother me at all. If you had to put an age on me, what would you say?
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And yeah, I pretty much have that look on my face all the time, lol.
LilRingo - That's a pass to me. I'd probably say about 16 years old, maybe up to 18 depending on how tall you are and how you act.
I made a random video today, it's just me rambling on about names and stuff, I was trying to stave of boredom and I've never made a video before and find it really awkward talking to myself so it's quite bad. Watching this I don't think my mannerisms pass, or the profile view of my head but I'm not sure. My voice definitely doesn't as far as I can tell.
My name (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m67DhtBNkyw&feature=plcp#)
I'm trying to change the thumbnail it shows because that one is really awful but it doesn't seem to want to save any changes I make :/
Quote from: LilRingo on August 05, 2012, 05:02:30 PM
Hey guys and girls! I just got my hair cut this past week, and want to see if i pass better now :) I'm Ok with looking young for now, that doesn't bother me at all. If you had to put an age on me, what would you say?
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And yeah, I pretty much have that look on my face all the time, lol.
u pass really well ur bone structure is pretty strong so thats good in ur case lol. U look bout 16, and also u should dye ur hair really really dark like dark brown or darkest brown and get a tan and if u burn wen u tan then just get a spray tan. tans and dark dark hair make u look older
@Alex: Awh. You just made my day :D Also, you pass to me. I'd probably say 14-16 years old, cos the voice isn't quite there yet, but it is better than a lot of guys' that I've heard.
@Angelique: I just dyed my hair that copper/blond color, so once that fades, I might go with brown, but not really dark. Maybe like a David Tennant brown. And I definitely need a little bit of a tan! It's crazy how pale I am. I'm also 18, so I'm not too concerned with looking older. as long as i look like I'm a teenager, I'm ok. :)
Quote from: Alex000000 on August 05, 2012, 05:08:34 PM
LilRingo - That's a pass to me. I'd probably say about 16 years old, maybe up to 18 depending on how tall you are and how you act.
I made a random video today, it's just me rambling on about names and stuff, I was trying to stave of boredom and I've never made a video before and find it really awkward talking to myself so it's quite bad. Watching this I don't think my mannerisms pass, or the profile view of my head but I'm not sure. My voice definitely doesn't as far as I can tell.
My name (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m67DhtBNkyw&feature=plcp#)
I'm trying to change the thumbnail it shows because that one is really awful but it doesn't seem to want to save any changes I make :/
You sort of resemble Logan Lerman.
I think you pass for a young guy, 13 maybe 14.
Thanks guys, I'm just about okay with passing that young but I can't really expect much more seeing as I'm only 5"2' I think.
Quote from: LilRingo on August 05, 2012, 05:02:30 PM
Hey guys and girls! I just got my hair cut this past week, and want to see if i pass better now :) I'm Ok with looking young for now, that doesn't bother me at all. If you had to put an age on me, what would you say?
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And yeah, I pretty much have that look on my face all the time, lol.
aw you look like my twin brother...granted a couple years ago but him none the less :D
http://oolliee.tumblr.com/tagged/face (http://oolliee.tumblr.com/tagged/face)
Hey I haven't posted here in a while and I've since gotten top surgery and started T :)
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Hey I haven't posted here in a while and I've since gotten top surgery and started T :)
Hey bro, definitely pass; especially since you can take your shirt off lol, looks awesome btw. I'd peg you for 14 in the first pic, 16 in the 2nd, 15 in the 3rd, 17 in the 4th, and 15 for the 5th and 6th. But don't even stress because T is working it's magic! Congrats!
I think I'll pass for a bohemic bum-like kid at best.
At least judging from this:
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A real ladies' man!
I do so love those people, the best bunch I've met in years.
....holy! Tossu-sama, is it really you? :D
Anyways! I was going to say, that.. LilRingo, that haircut fits you! And oh, how I wish I could throw some sort of an opinion of your age for you as well... but I honestly suck at telling people's age's by just looking at them...
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....holy! Tossu-sama, is it really you? :D
The one and only. :'D
LilRingo - I've only ever seen chin dimples on full on genetic guys! I'm a little jealous. That alone would make me not clock you.
My husband & I decided to produce offspring prior to my transition. I enlarged quite a bit from the waist up after having 2 babies in 2 years.
So, this is me pre-op everything, no T & no binder. Just bumming around the house.
100_5092 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/85202212@N03/7804328742/#)
Quote from: mikaellucien on August 17, 2012, 04:49:46 PM
My husband & I decided to produce offspring prior to my transition. I enlarged quite a bit from the waist up after having 2 babies in 2 years.
So, this is me pre-op everything, no T & no binder. Just bumming around the house.
100_5092 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/85202212@N03/7804328742/#)
wow you have such potential! you're structure is solid (which is great!) and i'm loving the hair cut! with a binder and all, you'll be set to go :)
"wow you have such potential! you're structure is solid (which is great!) and i'm loving the hair cut! with a binder and all, you'll be set to go :)"
Thanks.
For the last 11 years, I've been called Sir about 90% of the time when I'm out and about. (& that's with no binder, mind you.) I've been looking into my options on that score, till I can swing the top surgery. I'm still uncertain which is best for a hefty chest. Can anyone recommend one?
I've been working on my eating habits & exercise as well. The day the double chin goes missing will be a joyous one, for certain.
Quote from: mikaellucien on August 17, 2012, 10:44:15 PM
"wow you have such potential! you're structure is solid (which is great!) and i'm loving the hair cut! with a binder and all, you'll be set to go :)"
Thanks.
For the last 11 years, I've been called Sir about 90% of the time when I'm out and about. (& that's with no binder, mind you.) I've been looking into my options on that score, till I can swing the top surgery. I'm still uncertain which is best for a hefty chest. Can anyone recommend one?
I've been working on my eating habits & exercise as well. The day the double chin goes missing will be a joyous one, for certain.
http://www.lesloveboat.com/shop/index.php?language=en (http://www.lesloveboat.com/shop/index.php?language=en) is going to be one of your best bets for a plus size binder. they have a lot of great options so i suggest checking them out and seeing what they have to offer. If it doesn't work for you, let me know and I'll see what else I can come up with. I use this site and they are amazing so I definetly recommend starting here. And a little bonus, this site is great for free exercise programs and routines as well as nutrition http://www.freetrainers.com/ (http://www.freetrainers.com/) I use it all the time and so I definetly recommend a look see to all. Anyways, hope they help!
Quote from: JayKyle on August 18, 2012, 12:34:48 PM
http://www.lesloveboat.com/shop/index.php?language=en (http://www.lesloveboat.com/shop/index.php?language=en) is going to be one of your best bets for a plus size binder. they have a lot of great options so i suggest checking them out and seeing what they have to offer. If it doesn't work for you, let me know and I'll see what else I can come up with. I use this site and they are amazing so I definetly recommend starting here. And a little bonus, this site is great for free exercise programs and routines as well as nutrition http://www.freetrainers.com/ (http://www.freetrainers.com/) I use it all the time and so I definetly recommend a look see to all. Anyways, hope they help!
I will be sure to give them a chance, once I can get past their plus size binders having size 2 models. I find it extremely unhelpful to view the product on a body type I will never (& never *want*) to possess. Thanks for the links, though.
Quote from: mikaellucien on August 18, 2012, 03:19:23 PM
I will be sure to give them a chance, once I can get past their plus size binders having size 2 models. I find it extremely unhelpful to view the product on a body type I will never (& never *want*) to possess. Thanks for the links, though.
yes, it would be nice if they had some other models perhaps for each size? i know for me it was a tad bit unhelpful (mainly because i have very broad shoulders and chest build for my size but with a flatish chest...go figure) so finding my size was a little tricky (but i got it, yay!) underworks also makes binders but they're are not very helpful either in the visual department and i have never purchased from them before (i also am not aware what sizes they have). but you can always google it and see. hope that helps a little more and good luck in your endeavor :)
you could always try t-kingdom and go the custom made route :)
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from what i can tell, you're good Michael :D you pass to me.
Hey guys I'm new to this site... But I was hoping you guys could tell me how well my face passes.
I'm a pre-everything trans guy. And I hope this link works!!
http://i.imgur.com/9sgCX.png (http://i.imgur.com/9sgCX.png)
Quote from: Itscolek on August 21, 2012, 11:01:27 AM
Hey guys I'm new to this site... But I was hoping you guys could tell me how well my face passes.
I'm a pre-everything trans guy. And I hope this link works!!
http://i.imgur.com/9sgCX.png (http://i.imgur.com/9sgCX.png)
Depends on how young you are. You would pass as a 13-14 year old boy to me.
Total pass to me Michael
Itscolek, you could go either way for me, but I knew one or two very young guys that looked like you (by young I mean around 12) but whether or not you passed would depend on how tall you are and your mannerisms I think. If you acted like you were older but still male even that would throw me a bit I think.
Well that sucks. I am actually 19 years old and in college. I act my age and am 5 ft 5 only 110 lbs... I'm hoping t will masculinise my face . I still get called sir and he in public 100% of the time. But age is always wrong.
Quote from: Itscolek on August 21, 2012, 02:57:54 PM
Well that sucks. I am actually 19 years old and in college. I act my age and am 5 ft 5 only 110 lbs... I'm hoping t will masculinise my face . I still get called sir and he in public 100% of the time. But age is always wrong.
T will definitely be great for you.
New avatar after being on T for about six weeks. When did my arms get so huuuuge
Quote from: Sylvester on August 22, 2012, 04:26:01 PM
New avatar after being on T for about six weeks. When did my arms get so huuuuge
rock it man! looks like its going to be working out great for you :)
Hey guys, everyone is looking awesome!! :D I've been trying out a new hairstyle lately in attempts to look more my age. What do you all think? Do I still pass, and do I look older than with the spiky hair?
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Quote from: Konnor on August 23, 2012, 05:46:35 PM
Hey guys, everyone is looking awesome!! :D I've been trying out a new hairstyle lately in attempts to look more my age. What do you all think? Do I still pass, and do I look older than with the spiky hair?
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Yup I think you both pass and look more mature but I don't know how old people thought you looked with the spikes hair...i'd say you look between the ages 18-22 especially in the suit.
Btw if you don't mind me asking what's your neck size? I'm curious to know because none of the men's shirts fit me. I only have a 13 1/2 inch neck =\
konnor- lookin great. i do think you look older with your hair like that. I'd say around 20
Yay!! That's awesome. I was being seen as high school age before, and seeing as I'm a 22 year old professional, it didn't exactly feel right. I'm not on T though, so I know I can't expect things to be perfect yet. I usually wear 15-1/2" neck shirts with 32/33 sleeves, Tom. I'm about 5'5, 160 lbs tho, so you're probably a lot smaller than me. Something that helps is to look for slim or modern fit shirts, they usually aren't as huge and have a trimmer silhouette for you little guys. Also, try stores that tend to cater to more "modern" styles...Express has very good dress shirts and come in smaller/trimmer sizes. Hope this helps! Thanks again for the comments, Tom and Michael!
Quote from: Konnor on August 23, 2012, 07:33:03 PM
Yay!! That's awesome. I was being seen as high school age before, and seeing as I'm a 22 year old professional, it didn't exactly feel right. I'm not on T though, so I know I can't expect things to be perfect yet. I usually wear 15-1/2" neck shirts with 32/33 sleeves, Tom. I'm about 5'5, 160 lbs tho, so you're probably a lot smaller than me. Something that helps is to look for slim or modern fit shirts, they usually aren't as huge and have a trimmer silhouette for you little guys. Also, try stores that tend to cater to more "modern" styles...Express has very good dress shirts and come in smaller/trimmer sizes. Hope this helps! Thanks again for the comments, Tom and Michael!
Yeah I'm 5'3, thanks for the help though I'll check out some modern style ones. I don't actually need a shirt at the moment though it's just good to know
Konnor you look to be about 20/21 years old to me in the pictures :) and the dress shirt looks sharp on you
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do i pass lol.. i been told i pass around 15-18 lol
@Boba
I think you pass in both pictures but the first one you look really young. Probably because of the hat the way it is. The second one you look older and pass better in my opinion. The clothing you are wearing I think has a lot to do with how people age you. The black makes you look older. lol maybe it's just me though
Ok, It will be interesting to see the results from this. How old do I look to you guys?
Quote from: Erica on August 25, 2012, 04:32:34 PM
Ok, It will be interesting to see the results from this. How old do I look to you guys?
Mid to late thirties
Quote from: Erica on August 25, 2012, 04:32:34 PM
Ok, It will be interesting to see the results from this. How old do I look to you guys?
Hmm 33 - 36 maybe? You don't have any lines on your face from what I can tell and going by my own family they only started having any obvious lines when they were hitting there forties. So I wouldn't say you were as old as that.
Quote from: Erica on August 25, 2012, 04:32:34 PM
Ok, It will be interesting to see the results from this. How old do I look to you guys?
I was always taught to never assume the age of any lady. :laugh: If I had to guess, late 20's to mid 30's. You look sort of like my Aunt when she was around 29/30. She actually looks younger now at 39, however that works. I think she's a wizard.
im obviously the one on the left haha. pass?
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ty you pass very very well in that picture.
Boba you pass well to me.
Quote from: Erica on August 25, 2012, 04:32:34 PM
Ok, It will be interesting to see the results from this. How old do I look to you guys?
Mid to late 30's.. maybe even older. I'm a bad person to ask about this though... If someone looks older than me(I'm 22), I automatically look at my best friend for comparison (he's almost 30) and if they look older than him, then I typically compare them to my dad, his wife, and my mom, and they're early to mid 40s(respectfully).
I think you could probably be about the same age as my parents, but I would believe you were younger as well. Age is so difficult to pinpoint. You have old people that look young, and young people that look old lol; it's just so individualistic and fluid.
So again(and don't be offended, because I mean NO disrespect. You look lovely regardless) I would say mid to late 30s, if I were guessing.
I'm 38 : )
You actually look older than usual there, Ty. Like 14-15. And of course 1000% pass.
Quote from: KyleXX on August 26, 2012, 02:55:36 AM
You actually look older than usual there, Ty. Like 14-15. And of course 1000% pass.
I think he looks about his age (as usual), but no doubt passes. I usually think he looks around 12-14 though. He is on Androgel, so I'm still anticipating him to randomly post a picture with all of this massive changes one day and me to go, "WUT when did this happen?" :P
jason: androgel literally does nothing lol but ive got an appointment with my endo so ill probably be going on T soon
also the girl in the picture (my girlfriend) is trans too, just to put that out there for the mtf's looking at this page
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on August 26, 2012, 07:11:34 AM
also the girl in the picture (my girlfriend) is trans too, just to put that out there for the mtf's looking at this page
That's so cool. Your girl is wayy cute, bro, congratulations :)
thanks man haha
Quote from: JasonRX on August 26, 2012, 04:20:52 AM
I think he looks about his age (as usual), but no doubt passes. I usually think he looks around 12-14 though. He is on Androgel, so I'm still anticipating him to randomly post a picture with all of this massive changes one day and me to go, "WUT when did this happen?" :P
I don't typically post in this thread, but ^^^^^^ so much lol.
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on August 26, 2012, 07:11:34 AM
jason: androgel literally does nothing lol but ive got an appointment with my endo so ill probably be going on T soon
also the girl in the picture (my girlfriend) is trans too, just to put that out there for the mtf's looking at this page
Holy sh*t! I would never have guessed with your girlfriend.
I think you look older then usual too, your jaw looks bigger then I remember it being.
Do you think you will grow on T?
Tom: do you mean in height? i doubt it but maybe a little
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on August 26, 2012, 07:07:46 PM
Tom: do you mean in height? i doubt it but maybe a little
I think he is referring to the fact that you may end up growing like a normal teenage boy would because you're were on hormone blockers and are able to start HRT at such a young age.
oooh then yes but a little short haha
Quote from: JasonRX on August 26, 2012, 07:14:26 PM
I think he is referring to the fact that you may end up growing like a normal teenage boy would because you're were on hormone blockers and are able to start HRT at such a young age.
Yeah that's what I meant. Dude reads my mind.
That's cool man. Your lucky
thanks ;D
well it's been a couple weeks since starting T, anyone see the difference, do i pass better?
pre T
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Now
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Quote from: Justin 21 on August 28, 2012, 03:22:19 AM
well it's been a couple weeks since starting T, anyone see the difference, do i pass better?
pre T
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Now
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I think there might be a difference in your face mate but I'd need a better pre T pic to know for sure. I think it might look more boyish.
here Tom this is a better pre T pic
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Quote from: Justin 21 on August 28, 2012, 05:43:08 AM
here Tom this is a better pre T pic
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A pre-T close up might be more beneficial, Justin.
That picture is taken from quite far away for anyone to be able to make out the details of your face.
Quote from: Justin 21 on August 28, 2012, 03:22:19 AM
well it's been a couple weeks since starting T, anyone see the difference, do i pass better?
pre T
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Now
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You pass much better in the second picture because it looks like you are dressing your age. I also think the hairstyle works better for you.
Not really any T changes.
Quote from: Justin 21 on August 28, 2012, 05:43:08 AM
here Tom this is a better pre T pic
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In this picture you don't pass at all, it just looks like you dipped into your dads closet.
The photos aren't conducive to telling if there is a difference or not. There is likely not one since it's only been a few weeks.
Quote from: Justin 21 on August 28, 2012, 05:43:08 AM
here Tom this is a better pre T pic
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Thanks, this where the zoom on my phone comes in handy :P
I think you pass better with the flat hair and like others have said, in the plain t-shirt. T change wise I still think there's a little difference in your face. I don't really know what it is, it could just be the angle but I think your face looks more masculine. Might be your eye area...
Just posting some pictures of how i usually wear my hair. Wondering if it looks fine and all that.
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That look.
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My profile
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How i look in class.
I pass well enough. I'd probably say 90% of the time. My professors use male pronouns and all. But today I got 'madame'd in french class by another student. I dont know why. I don't think its my voice but just in case, here is a vocaroo file of my voice.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0ieodBpCvfk (http://vocaroo.com/i/s0ieodBpCvfk)
i'm Pre-T by the way
Quote from: LilRingo on August 29, 2012, 10:19:35 PM
I pass well enough. I'd probably say 90% of the time. My professors use male pronouns and all. But today I got 'madame'd in french class by another student. I dont know why. I don't think its my voice but just in case, here is a vocaroo file of my voice.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0ieodBpCvfk (http://vocaroo.com/i/s0ieodBpCvfk)
i'm Pre-T by the way
Is that your natural voice?
I figured I'd ask, because it actually sounds a bit forced, like you're trying to make it a couple of octaves lower than it normally is.
It could just be your mic though, I guess.
As for your face, I'd have to see the rest of your body, mannerisms, and whatnot to say if you pass in person, but it would appear that you do (at least mostly) pass in the face.
Quote from: JasonRX on August 29, 2012, 10:32:57 PM
Is that your natural voice?
I figured I'd ask, because it actually sounds a bit forced, like you're trying to make it a couple of octaves lower than it normally is.
It could just be your mic though, I guess.
As for your face, I'd have to see the rest of your body, mannerisms, and whatnot to say if you pass in person, but it would appear that you do (at least mostly) pass in the face.
Natural voice is slightly less low. It is also compounded by the crappy built in mic that i have. i shall post another file of my more natural voice.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0D01vfW0u7i (http://vocaroo.com/i/s0D01vfW0u7i)
Quote from: Liam Erik on August 29, 2012, 11:41:19 PM
Your face and voice both pass fine to me, Lilringo.
Ditto and your hair looks fine btw.
i'm nervous cause i never post here but i'm nervous about starting school. it's my first semester actually asking my profs to use a male name for me so yea. i pass in public bc i'm tall but i want to know if i still do when i take that out of the equation.
http://youtu.be/JVS1tw_MzCY (http://youtu.be/JVS1tw_MzCY) <-- do my looks/voice pass?
Quote from: KyleXX on August 30, 2012, 01:26:07 PM
i'm nervous cause i never post here but i'm nervous about starting school. it's my first semester actually asking my profs to use a male name for me so yea. i pass in public bc i'm tall but i want to know if i still do when i take that out of the equation.
http://youtu.be/JVS1tw_MzCY (http://youtu.be/JVS1tw_MzCY) <-- do my looks/voice pass?
I'd say yeah although you do look younger than college age (I'd say maybe 15-16?)
Quote from: KyleXX on August 30, 2012, 01:26:07 PM
i'm nervous cause i never post here but i'm nervous about starting school. it's my first semester actually asking my profs to use a male name for me so yea. i pass in public bc i'm tall but i want to know if i still do when i take that out of the equation.
http://youtu.be/JVS1tw_MzCY (http://youtu.be/JVS1tw_MzCY) <-- do my looks/voice pass?
Your voice is fine, facially....i think most people will see you as male but some may see you as female. However if you combine your voice with your height and overall appearance then I dont see anyone taking you as female to be honest.
Quote from: KyleXX on August 30, 2012, 01:26:07 PM
i'm nervous cause i never post here but i'm nervous about starting school. it's my first semester actually asking my profs to use a male name for me so yea. i pass in public bc i'm tall but i want to know if i still do when i take that out of the equation.
http://youtu.be/JVS1tw_MzCY (http://youtu.be/JVS1tw_MzCY) <-- do my looks/voice pass?
You look good and I'll always be jealous of how tall you are too.
I'm sure you could pass as college age because of your height.
xD
Just thought I'd say.
Quote from: KyleXX on August 30, 2012, 01:26:07 PM
i'm nervous cause i never post here but i'm nervous about starting school. it's my first semester actually asking my profs to use a male name for me so yea. i pass in public bc i'm tall but i want to know if i still do when i take that out of the equation.
http://youtu.be/JVS1tw_MzCY (http://youtu.be/JVS1tw_MzCY) <-- do my looks/voice pass?
you totally pass, bro. If i were to walk by you on campus, there isnt any way i could see you as ambiguous or female. Props.
Quote from: KyleXX on August 30, 2012, 01:26:07 PM
i'm nervous cause i never post here but i'm nervous about starting school. it's my first semester actually asking my profs to use a male name for me so yea. i pass in public bc i'm tall but i want to know if i still do when i take that out of the equation.
You look and sound totally great : )
thank you so much everyone, i really appreciate the feedback! and i'm feeling a lot better about going to class. :)
Haven't been on here in awhile since I was working up in the mountains over the summer, which was great I got to be accepted and recognized as Charlie 100% of the time. When I'd take my campers out on trips if our raft guides would say ladies they would always add and Charlie which made me feel extremely happy.
Anyway, so I made a comparison photo thing for my Facebook so I thought I'd add it here too. The photos span about 5 years. Let me know what you think!
So here ya go let me know what you think!
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Hey I thought Id take a stab at this. I'm 1 month and 7 days on Tgel. What do yall think?
Devon
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pass, definate pass :)
It is soooo beautiful that both of you are so young, trans, and were able to find each other! I'm so happy for you both. :)
I never would have suspected anything from the picture of either one of you, and I am pretty perceptive with may transdar.
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on August 26, 2012, 07:11:34 AM
jason: androgel literally does nothing lol but ive got an appointment with my endo so ill probably be going on T soon
also the girl in the picture (my girlfriend) is trans too, just to put that out there for the mtf's looking at this page
Your bone structure says male. The one thing I would change is the hair. It is a little too "tousled" and soft looking and the bangs are a little long. Most males do not have long bangs and tousled hair.
Your voice sounds very male, especially considering you are pre-T. If you are looking for something to improve upon, you might want to lessen the amount of croak in your voice. Most males do not have much croak when they speak.
Hope this helps.
Quote from: LilRingo on August 29, 2012, 10:19:35 PM
Just posting some pictures of how i usually wear my hair. Wondering if it looks fine and all that.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCPjtW.jpg&hash=e68fd8e21ae6845010270973f659bad84b3b5e32)
That look.
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My profile
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How i look in class.
I pass well enough. I'd probably say 90% of the time. My professors use male pronouns and all. But today I got 'madame'd in french class by another student. I dont know why. I don't think its my voice but just in case, here is a vocaroo file of my voice.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0ieodBpCvfk (http://vocaroo.com/i/s0ieodBpCvfk)
i'm Pre-T by the way
Quote from: ethereal on September 04, 2012, 05:05:17 PM
It is soooo beautiful that both of you are so young, trans, and were able to find each other! I'm so happy for you both. :)
I never would have suspected anything from the picture of either one of you, and I am pretty perceptive with may transdar.
Thanks!! yeah im super happy ;D
Quote from: ethereal on September 04, 2012, 05:16:20 PM
Your bone structure says male. The one thing I would change is the hair. It is a little too "tousled" and soft looking and the bangs are a little long. Most males do not have long bangs and tousled hair.
I dunno I've seen quite a few guys around here that wear their hair like that, and he seems to pull it perfectly fine to me. Maybe it just depends where you live and what style is classed as male and female in those areas.
Quote from: Alex000000 on September 04, 2012, 05:59:48 PM
I dunno I've seen quite a few guys around here that wear their hair like that, and he seems to pull it perfectly fine to me. Maybe it just depends where you live and what style is classed as male and female in those areas.
Yep.
Quote from: Alex000000 on September 04, 2012, 05:59:48 PM
I dunno I've seen quite a few guys around here that wear their hair like that, and he seems to pull it perfectly fine to me. Maybe it just depends where you live and what style is classed as male and female in those areas.
Quote from: Andy8715 on September 04, 2012, 06:02:46 PM
Yep.
I totally agree, I've seen lots of young guys with hair like that.
Quote from: Alex000000 on September 04, 2012, 05:59:48 PM
I dunno I've seen quite a few guys around here that wear their hair like that, and he seems to pull it perfectly fine to me. Maybe it just depends where you live and what style is classed as male and female in those areas.
You're probably right about the variation in areas. I know quite a few lesbians with that hair style in my area, so I might be a little biased. Some guys do have longish bangs and hair styled like that, but longish bangs tend to be feminizing because they can make your face look smaller. Also, tousled and wispy hair can make your face look softer, so most of the guys i know tend to avoid those styles. That's just my opinion and there are lots of exceptions of course.
Just got a new style...better? worse? am I moving away from andro? or no? (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1148.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo574%2FJaydenKyle117%2F_MG_1079.jpg&hash=3cfb08f050f8667e91b1e641592c0d09d726fcc7)
Quote from: JayKyle on September 05, 2012, 01:23:41 PM
Just got a new style...better? worse? am I moving away from andro? or no? (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1148.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo574%2FJaydenKyle117%2F_MG_1079.jpg&hash=3cfb08f050f8667e91b1e641592c0d09d726fcc7)
not that andro, but the shirt is a bit "curve-hugging". Why not try a polo shirt?
Quote from: SilentOwls on September 05, 2012, 01:42:32 PM
not that andro, but the shirt is a bit "curve-hugging". Why not try a polo shirt?
hmmm good idea...it doesn't help that i am very curvatious >.<
Quote from: JayKyle on September 05, 2012, 01:44:49 PM
hmmm good idea...it doesn't help that i am very curvatious >.<
you should get one of those "hip-hugging" binders that not only bind but slim your hips.
JayKyle: i think either a shorter haircut or non-spiked hair might help your passing, along with what SilentOwls said.
haha the funny thing is is that i'm wearing one of those hip-hugging binders.
Quote from: SilentOwls on September 05, 2012, 02:06:13 PM
you should get one of those "hip-hugging" binders that not only bind but slim your hips.
Those can't slim down you bones. Some guys have no flesh just large bones there.
Quote from: Andy8715 on September 05, 2012, 04:40:27 PM
Those can't slim down you bones. Some guys have no flesh just large bones there.
In that case, "wide-legged" pants should help too. Boot-cut and regular cut jeans are a plus, while baggy jeans just tend to accentuate hips more (and they just look weird, they've been out of style for more than a couple of years now).
Avoid slim-cut and skinny, just in general. I think the guys who can pull it off are doing so in spite of, not because of.
Quote from: SilentOwls on September 05, 2012, 04:58:40 PM
In that case, "wide-legged" pants should help too. Boot-cut and regular cut jeans are a plus, while baggy jeans just tend to accentuate hips more (and they just look weird, they've been out of style for more than a couple of years now).
Avoid slim-cut and skinny, just in general. I think the guys who can pull it off are doing so in spite of, not because of.
most pants, I have found, do not help me at all in that aspect, boot/regular or otherwise. it doesn't help that i'm on a tight budget and still loosing weight either :/ but oh well. If they only issue is my hippage...then it looks like i'm heading in the right direction :D (maybe i should wear a full length kilt ;D )
Hey guys,
Hoping you can help me out here. I can't take T and am not transitioning but I would really rather look androgynous male than androgynous female. I get people who don't know me calling me female 90% of the time, so basically my question is what could I do to land more on the male side? I know it's hard to tell all about someone just from pictures but I figured any input at this point might be helpful to me figuring this stuff out. The majority of my clothes are male. I'm short (5'3") so can't really do anything about that (although I'm definitely not small in body structure ... 130lbs and I am trying to work out more to tone what I've got. I would say just judging by other males I've seen that are my height that I'm pretty close in comparison to overall build). I've been told by friends that my mannerisms, the way I act, the way I walk and the way I talk is definitely more male, although my voice sounds like a younger teenage dude. I'm also well into my 30's at this point. I do look totally different imo with "short" hair (faked it in the one photo) but I personally like my hair longer and think I look better with it that way.
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I think I posted this before, so if I did forgive me, but here's a full body shot.
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Thanks
Insideontheoutside:
I honestly think, the clothing is part of the problem. It doesn't look age appropriate I guess. I don't know if it's just me but I think it might be part of the problem. Far be it from me to change your style. But I think if you would wear more "mature" male clothing, it would probably work better. Like get some jeans, a simple formal shirt, and some formal shoes, and I think then you'd be passing better. But again, that's just me. I just see the clothes you are wearing as stuff someone in high school/college would wear.
sorry inside, its a no pass for me. unfortunately you look female and your age in all four face shots. last one isn't clear enough to tell. sorry bro.
No pass, sorry. It's just the lack of facial hair combined with a teenage-like clothing style and the fact that your skin shows signs of aging. I think a tidy haircut with some jeans and dress shirts would help. Not too formal, but more mature attire.
@inside, to me the third picture looked more masculine then the others....maybe it was the angle? hmm..not sure. anyways, i know you mentioned briefly something about your height and i wanted to chime in my two cents about shoe lifts. you can buy them at a variety of websites, loveboat being one of them, and it will give you a couple of extra inches to your height. you can only wear them with like trainers/dress shoes/boots but hey, i thought i would just mention it incase that might help a little.
Hey guys,
Thanks for the input and helping me try to figure this out. I just did a little experiment and gave myself some stubble (photoshop). This is the only thing that's changed on the photos. What I'm trying to gauge is whether or not it's a facial structure thing or just subtle things that say male rather than female. If addition of just the stubble pushes me into male it may be something I can work on (I already have stubble but only on the edges of my chin and under my chin - if I were able to up my T levels slightly it would probably grow in more).
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Also, on the clothing front. I never wear shorts really and I have a lot of other clothes that I wear on a regular basis. I posted that last pic more of just an overall "here's my full body" kind of shot, but I totally get that clothes can make a difference.
Here's a more recent pic (I was wearing black jeans and black boots with this ensemble).
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Here's a couple older pics (sorry they're so small) of some more normal clothes I would wear on an everyday basis.
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Thanks
@insideontheoutside hmm...im not sure about the photoshoping...BUT i do think the other clothing did make a big difference. also, is your hair darker in the bottom pictures?! you pass better for some reason in those two to me...hmm, maybe i'm just crazy :P (but they do say darker hair tends to give a more masculine tone...)
Inside: I'm gonna go against the grain and say the shorter hair looks by far more feminine to me. The husband agrees with your choice of longer hair. You look like of women in their 30s and 40s I know with your hair pulled back in the faux-short style. I wouldn't cut it, personally. The only short style I could see working for you would be a buzz cut, but I don't think that would look right on you. You look pretty spot on to me as an andro guy in the bottom right photo in casual wear. The layering to me helps. I think colors like blues and greens work pretty good for you in general from what I have seen in your posts. Also, I think the slightly darker hair could help. Maybe a shade or two darker brown? Black, given your complexion would wash you out. That might help you get the reading you want.
Edit: I remembered who it was you remind me of! Judd Nelson, the badass from the Breakfast Club. I'd inbed a picture, but I am feeling overly lazy and I can't remember my password to photobucket. But, that is who you remind me of pretty damn closely. Especially with your hair like it is.
@inside on the older pictures you look like Gerard Way ;D
Other: do you think I pass in this pic and if yes what age? thanks
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Quote from: Jared on September 07, 2012, 07:47:52 AM
@inside on the older pictures you look like Gerard Way ;D
Other: do you think I pass in this pic and if yes what age? thanks
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maybe for 13 or so?
Thanks guys.
JayKyle ... I guess I can try to focus more on clothes (and now that it's not going to be warm much longer I can do the clothes layering thing again which will probably help too). You and Ayden both mentioned darker hair seems to help so I may try that again too. I never really thought of hair color as a "passing" thing before, so it's definitely helpful to get outside input on this stuff!
Also, Ayden, I agree with you on the shorter hair. Actually, in the older clothing photos I posted that's about as short as I'd go with my hair ever and that's still longer than the average man hairdo and more choppy.
It's funny that I do get people saying I look like different famous guys (and Jared, I've gotten people saying I look like Gerard in different pics before too!) and I've never really had anyone say I look like any famous girls (then again I personally think I make a "prettier" dude than I do a chick any day).
And Jared, on your pic, since it's at a distance and the way you're dressed I'd say you were a younger male (maybe 13-14).
Quote from: insideontheoutside on September 07, 2012, 05:13:49 PM
I've never really had anyone say I look like any famous girls
Someone once told me I look like Moria Kelly. I so don't.
Jared, you pass in that picture! I think you are trying to hypnotise me with your shirt :P I think your hair looks pretty cool and you look about 13-15 years old.
It is just 4 months until my birthday and then all the waiting will be (almost) FINALLY over!! :D I will legally be allowed to be me and I cant wait! My friends want to take me out to a club for my birthday and it is going to be very awkward if people keep asking whether Im old enough to even be here :-X How old do you think I look now? I am also only 5'6.
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Quote from: harlee on September 08, 2012, 03:23:04 AM
Jared, you pass in that picture! I think you are trying to hypnotise me with your shirt :P I think your hair looks pretty cool and you look about 13-15 years old.
It is just 4 months until my birthday and then all the waiting will be (almost) FINALLY over!! :D I will legally be allowed to be me and I cant wait! My friends want to take me out to a club for my birthday and it is going to be very awkward if people keep asking whether Im old enough to even be here :-X How old do you think I look now? I am also only 5'6.
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14-15
But definite pass.
harlee: You look just like my little brother, Jacob! So, I'm biased, I think you look fine. About 14-15 like Aeris said. So, you look young but you pass.
Harlee: don't say you are low, I'm only 5'1 so I'm much lower than you (if it helps). And you do pass really well.
Guys. I'm afraid to post a picture. I'm scared I will not pass at all, because I rarely pass IRL. Should I just try to post a picture and let you judge?
Quote from: harlee on September 08, 2012, 03:23:04 AM
I am also only 5'6.
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I was going to say you look like a 13 or 14 year old boy, but definitely look like a boy. Also, 5'6 isn't THAT short. You're only a little shorter than I am.
Thanks harlee ;D yeah that was exactly the aim :P I think we look about the same age now. I'm also a bit scared about going to clubs because of the same thing you said. But have a great party without awkward moments! ;D
no T yet do i still pass ???
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Harlee - you pass 100% definitely. And dont worry about the height, youre not that small. (Youre taller than me atleast...!)
:)
Thanks guys :) I guess I am not that short, but sometimes I really feel short around my friends!
harlee you really pass really well but only like 14-16 range you look to be around my 15 yr old bros age.
What do you think... do I look close enough like a guy? thanks in advance for any thoughts.
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Ryan - From the half of your face you give us you look completely like a guy.
Jossef - You still pass very well, it's hard to imagine you not passing.
Harlee - You also pass very well, and I wouldn't worry about your height, it's 4-5 inches taller than me and I can pass for male pretty well. Since going to college as well I've noticed a lot of other shorter guys and what they don't have in height they seem to make up in muscles and stockiness, so maybe I'd question it a little bit more if you were really, really lanky and short, but 5'6" is still tall to me :P
Harlee: You pass 100%. you are also taller than i am. so yeh. You look about 13-15.
jossef: yeah, still passing. I cant see how you wouldn't.
Ryan: You have wicked stubble, i cant imagine someone calling you a girl, dude.
Sorry that I've been flooding this thread with posts, but I have just started presenting recently and I'm really concerned about how i look, lol.
I got my hair cut a few days ago. My grandma says it makes me look young, like 13-15ish, and I want some other opinions. Also, I'm gay if that makes any difference at all.
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I think not wearing glasses makes me look younger. What do y'all think?
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also, new dress outfit!
God, i'm vain.
Ryan - I'd say it would be really difficult to see anything female about you.
LilRingo - I'd say the glasses do make you look slightly older, but you still look teenager age.
Here's a pic of me with the black hair ... better male androgynous look?
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Inside: I think the darker hair works for you pretty well. I think the darker hair combined with the dishoveled, devil may care (so tempted to make a Devil May Cry reference :laugh: ) hair look works with your overall features for the androgynous look. Rawr, sir. Rawr. :laugh:
Inside - Id say in that picture, the dark hair is working better for you.
Inside: You look really androgynous, if a bit masculine in that picture. The hair is good too.
Thanks guys! I never really picked up on the darker hair working better for me thing so I'm glad I had the guts to post pictures ;)
@lilringo your posting is fine (the more pics the merrier~) and i think the new cut looks wonderful! very stylish indeed. nice shirt btw
@insdieontheoutside def pass to me with the dark hair, very nice! you also look younger :O O.O *crazyness!*
okay, so i've been told i look more feminine in my "style" then i do wearing sterotypical guy clothing. aka i dress goth/punk i look like a chic. i want to get your opinions on the matter. (and yes i am aware i look kind of dykish to begin with...deal with it)
I know this is a no bueno look with the black eye shadow till i start T and such
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But what about my normal do or something like it?
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Almost 6 and a half months on T.
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Quote from: JayKyle on September 11, 2012, 03:25:39 PM
@insdieontheoutside def pass to me with the dark hair, very nice! you also look younger :O O.O *crazyness!*
okay, so i've been told i look more feminine in my "style" then i do wearing sterotypical guy clothing. aka i dress goth/punk i look like a chic. i want to get your opinions on the matter. (and yes i am aware i look kind of dykish to begin with...deal with it)
I know this is a no bueno look with the black eye shadow till i start T and such
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But what about my normal do or something like it?
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I know it's kinda wild what the hair color does!
On your pics, you definitely look young ... it's hard to tell what your hair is doing in the top pic tho. You should set that badass Canon on the timer, step back and do a full shot ;) I would say that if punk is your style, go for like the Sid Vicious hair where it was a little longer and spiky/messy it would deter from any femininess (is that even a word??) in the face and the fact you don't shave. The clothes I don't think are a problem.
@Darin ... you look like a dude ... I don't think you got anything to worry about ;)
Quote from: insideontheoutside on September 11, 2012, 09:30:21 PM
I know it's kinda wild what the hair color does!
On your pics, you definitely look young ... it's hard to tell what your hair is doing in the top pic tho. You should set that badass Canon on the timer, step back and do a full shot ;) I would say that if punk is your style, go for like the Sid Vicious hair where it was a little longer and spiky/messy it would deter from any femininess (is that even a word??) in the face and the fact you don't shave. The clothes I don't think are a problem.
@Darin ... you look like a dude ... I don't think you got anything to worry about ;)
this hairstyle is actually the first part of many on my steps for an 80s rocker look. i have it all planned out with my stylist and everything. should look pretty BA when i finally get there.
Quote from: JayKyle on September 11, 2012, 09:36:38 PM
this hairstyle is actually the first part of many on my steps for an 80s rocker look. i have it all planned out with my stylist and everything. should look pretty BA when i finally get there.
Sweet. You definitely need to post pics of the progress ;)
Quote from: insideontheoutside on September 11, 2012, 10:02:00 PM
Sweet. You definitely need to post pics of the progress ;)
I will for sure!
Quote from: Darrin Scott on September 11, 2012, 04:26:39 PM
Almost 6 and a half months on T.
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dude, i don't think you even need to try anymore. lol looking good.
Thanks man!
Quote from: LilRingo on September 12, 2012, 09:24:49 PM
dude, i don't think you even need to try anymore. lol looking good.
Thirded. And your hair is flawless.
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lilringo you look good in this pic.
@Darrin i'd have to say 6 months on t has really put you in a good place man.
i was wondering if my face has changed in any way and also if i pass, how old do i look?
this is from bout last year
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this is me now
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jerr: you look a lot like this kid from my auto class, he's a freshman in high school so about 13-14
jerr: You look remarkably like my younger brother when he was 14.
I am pre-everything. Ahaha, oh man I can't wait for T. I need a new binder- I've lost weight and it doesn't do me any justice anymore 3:
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@Brendan you pass to me facial wise. and yeah man, i'm in the same pickle....i need to order a new one ASAP lol. but i think other than that little bit of a problem, you are a pass :)
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Jake - 20 years old
Pass or no pass?
Jake: to me you look andro leaning on the masculine side, its mostly the face shape plus the hate that makes you not pass for me i think. maybe post a pic without the hat?
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there ye go
in that one i think you pass for like 14-15
so this is gunna be what i wear when im a ring bearer in a couple weeks. body pass?
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Quote from: ty.to.the.man on September 23, 2012, 04:20:11 PM
so this is gunna be what i wear when im a ring bearer in a couple weeks. body pass?
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Yep :]
@jake i actually think you pass better with the hat. id say around 17, 18. i don't see anything feminine in the first pic. u still pass in the second pic, just as a few years younger. like 14, 15. but definitely a pass in both in my opinion. kudos man.
@ ty u always pass great. nice suit.
ty, you look good but you might want to get your vest tailored to fit more snug under the armpit. and i'm not crazy about the tie, but it's just bc it looks a little big as well. maybe a skinny tie or a different bow tie would look better? I just feel like you look your youngest when your clothes are loose, and that formal wear should be more fitted anyways.
kyle: thanks for the feedback! youre right about the vest it is a little big but im afraid if its any tighter it will hug my hips too much (its adjustable in the back), as for the bow tie thats any easy fix since i can tie it tighter if that's what you meant. I can't wear a tie because im in a wedding and they wanted me to wear a bow tie instead of a tie.
ty you llook good but you should adjust the vest or get it tailored also maybe a smaller shirt because its huge on your neck.
Thanks for your opinions :))
thanks for the feedback guys. ill see if i can get the vest tailored around the armpits.
anibioman: that might be because the bow tie is too loose. ill try to tighten it and see if that helps
Deejayk I'd have to say that I think you're right on the borderline, I'd not have a clue whether to read you male or female unless you said or did something that clearly pointed me one way or the other. So if you gave me a male name that would be sorted for me, but if you have a unisex name I'd be just as lost as ever. I find that not pushing my hair back helps me pass, but that could be a local thing.
Brendan: Hard to say. Your face does look pretty fem, but with the right voice and attitude you could pass.
Deejayk: I think you pass better with the hat, without you look really androgynous, but you could pass depending on your voice/mannerisms.
ty: Looking good. I'm not an expert on formal wear but you seem to pull it off well.
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I think not wearing glasses makes me look younger. What do y'all think?
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also, new dress outfit!
God, i'm vain.
qt patootie.
Finally got the balls to post in here again, lol. :p I'm just going to post links. If you see [password: legolas], it means it's in a password protected folder so just put in "legolas" and you'll get it.
Pictures From Today
- Body shot (http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/MauvaisAnge/DSCN0241.jpg). I finally bought a binder and jeans [I'm constantly buying guy shirts, but this one is new 'cause it's Superman]. Jeans are relaxed bootcut [40 x 32...I have big hips.] Chest is originally a 40 DD.
- Hair tucked up (http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/MauvaisAnge/DSCN0272.jpg). My hair is tucked up under the cap. I have long hair which I can't cut due to student-teaching and having to present as female.
- Hair down (http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/MauvaisAnge/DSCN0266.jpg). It is naturally that shiny even when not brushed, such as in that picture.
- Another one with my hair tucked up. (http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/MauvaisAnge/DSCN0249.jpg)
Older Pictures
Password protected. Password is legolas.
- Hair tucked up (http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/MauvaisAnge/Me/037.jpg). (I love super heroes, can't you tell?)
- Hair down (http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/MauvaisAnge/Me/042.jpg).
Quote from: Arawn Gabriel on September 30, 2012, 12:29:33 PM
Finally got the balls to post in here again, lol. :p I'm just going to post links. If you see [password: legolas], it means it's in a password protected folder so just put in "legolas" and you'll get it.
Pictures From Today
- Body shot (http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/MauvaisAnge/DSCN0241.jpg). I finally bought a binder and jeans [I'm constantly buying guy shirts, but this one is new 'cause it's Superman]. Jeans are relaxed bootcut [40 x 32...I have big hips.] Chest is originally a 40 DD.
- Hair tucked up (http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/MauvaisAnge/DSCN0272.jpg). My hair is tucked up under the cap. I have long hair which I can't cut due to student-teaching and having to present as female.
- Hair down (http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/MauvaisAnge/DSCN0266.jpg). It is naturally that shiny even when not brushed, such as in that picture.
- Another one with my hair tucked up. (http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/MauvaisAnge/DSCN0249.jpg)
Older Pictures
Password protected. Password is legolas.
- Hair tucked up (http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/MauvaisAnge/Me/037.jpg). (I love super heroes, can't you tell?)
- Hair down (http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/MauvaisAnge/Me/042.jpg).
It's a no pass for me.
You remind me of Darlene from Roseanne.
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/548765_485259484832184_1338028465_n.jpg)
Here is a picture of me and my best friend, I'm making a lovely grimace here, haha.
I really think i look alright here! To be honest I wasn't even wearing a binder or a bra that day, and i have 32D size manboobs!!!
What do you think? I'm open for crit if theres something i should do.
This was taken 2 weeks ago, had a haircut since then :P
Thanks everyone!
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on September 23, 2012, 04:20:11 PM
so this is gunna be what i wear when im a ring bearer in a couple weeks. body pass?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg109%2F2287%2Fphotoon20120923at1718.jpg&hash=9fd8e323d62a3e858240167d5c4d7009301d0a5c)
oh wow! I like it! its a pass for me ^ ^
Quote from: wrabbit on October 01, 2012, 01:54:47 AM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/548765_485259484832184_1338028465_n.jpg)
Here is a picture of me and my best friend, I'm making a lovely grimace here, haha.
I really think i look alright here! To be honest I wasn't even wearing a binder or a bra that day, and i have 32D size manboobs!!!
What do you think? I'm open for crit if theres something i should do.
This was taken 2 weeks ago, had a haircut since then :P
Thanks everyone!
You pass to me mate
eight weeks on T voice pass?
the real me (5) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF0mLP5Bo_g&feature=g-upl#)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_maxl8iphYv1r6vo6do1_500.jpg&hash=a115f0f329eef7f58e92ea7f274bcda21c006dcf)
im not on mty computer so this is the only picture i have, but i got a bad haircut and i feel like i dont pass anymore.
Justin, I think your voice passes pretty well. It could be a little deeper, but for 8 weeks it sounds great!
Dylan, I like the hair at the angle, but I also can't really get a read on your face from how it's shot. Can you post a more straight forward pic?
I'm just wondering can I pass while smiling? i don't think...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5oXnI.jpg&hash=c396d8f2ba8c8712f041353e16d0fcc2026fe6d7)
Jared, if I saw you at a bar or on the street or whatevs, I would assume you're a dude.
Jared I think you pass for around 16
Jared you pass
I'm scared of showing pictures of me because I know I don't pass...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjWXQk.jpg%3F1&hash=8f9a57dfa6432f253e52c85ac56f3c9306087d82) (http://imgur.com/jWXQk)
I mean I even tried to cover my cheeks with my hair. I do that sometimes IRL too.
Quote from: Sparrowhawke on October 04, 2012, 02:25:25 AM
Jared you pass
I'm scared of showing pictures of me because I know I don't pass...
I mean I even tried to cover my cheeks with my hair. I do that sometimes IRL too.
Okay let me first say I love the color and some people are fighting tooth and nail to keep me from making it mine too ;D BUT unfortunately I don't think it helps you pass. Are you pre T or?
I'm pre-T yes. Waiting to get it right now. It seems I have to wait 2-3 mounts before I know if I can take it. So I really want to try to pass meanwhile. I really want to hear what I can do in order to pass better. I need glasses I don't know if that would help thought. Also what color are you talking about. Me is a little confused.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrV6Ws.jpg%3F1&hash=4c15a5c6a7a58450cfbfe5aa95194fa0cbf591bd) (http://imgur.com/rV6Ws)
This is what I mostly look like (Also love my blank stare for some reason)
sparrowhawke: i think if youre willing to cut your hair short that would definitely help. also is that your natural hair color? cause i think a darker color or like a brown would help your passing.
Ty: I can't cut my hair :-\. I worked so much to get it so long. I'm trying to get as long hair as my friends have right now (I might pass better then because middle hair as I have right now is really feminine) . I normally have brown hair. I could try to dry it brown, and then go back to white when I have been on T for a while and look more masculine. Could that work?
This is a really cool thread! You all pass in my book. My ex passes so well that for the first few dates I had no idea he was trans, lol!
Boston: I think it stops when you reach 10 or 15 posts.
I tried putting something in my hair to make it look black so you can see how it looks.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPJZeW.jpg%3F1&hash=69ced888edee059a4ad168c7f4b6daa520e8fafa)
I still think I don't pass. Maybe brown is better.
If you cut it extremely short, you'd probably pass better....
I think I might pass worse. I have a vary female face so having extremely short hair would just make me look like a butch girl instead.
Quote from: Sparrowhawke on October 04, 2012, 08:33:40 AM
I think I might pass worse. I have a vary female face so having extremely short hair would just make me look like a butch girl instead.
A lot of people have this problem pre-HRT.
However, having long hair pre-HRT is probably going to help most pass a lot less than if they were to keep it short.
I think that's the point that the people who have commented so far are trying to make.
Wow thanks I really didn't think I can smile and pass.
Sparrow, I don't think you should get an extremely sohrt haircut just shorter than now. I don't know what's your style but imo an "emo" haircut would look more masculine on you, not short enough to pass worse but short enough to look more male.
Quote from: Sparrowhawke on October 04, 2012, 04:48:55 AM
I'm pre-T yes. Waiting to get it right now. It seems I have to wait 2-3 mounts before I know if I can take it. So I really want to try to pass meanwhile. I really want to hear what I can do in order to pass better. I need glasses I don't know if that would help thought. Also what color are you talking about. Me is a little confused.
This is what I mostly look like (Also love my blank stare for some reason)
Yes I meant the hair color! :D I totally wanna dye mine white too.
Glasses can definitely help because guys don't get as many ways to change their face pre-T. Short of cutting the hair you could also experiment with different parts and styles. I think in the pic where your hair is kind of messily pushed back you look more masculine.
Normally my advice to FTMs for passing aside from HRT is to lower their bodyfat but tbh it looks like you are already at a lowish bodyfat and you just need to go on T.
Quote from: pretty on October 04, 2012, 12:03:57 PM
Yes I meant the hair color! :D I totally wanna dye mine white too.
Glasses can definitely help because guys don't get as many ways to change their face pre-T. Short of cutting the hair you could also experiment with different parts and styles. I think in the pic where your hair is kind of messily pushed back you look more masculine.
Normally my advice to FTMs for passing aside from HRT is to lower their bodyfat but tbh it looks like you are already at a lowish bodyfat and you just need to go on T.
It would be a pretty bad idea for me to loose more weight because I'm so close to be underweight due to body dysphoria. My hair is normally messy too so that's a good think I guess.
Also yes white hair is awesome. I have always wanted white hair red eyes and vary bright skin colour for some reason. Guess I'm just obsessed with albino people.
Jason I guess you are right. I think the reason why I don't want to shorten my hair is because a dude I once saw transition cut his hair short in the beginning and after that he was really annoyed because he did it.
Jared I'm aiming for something like this: http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/41891199/Myrkgrav+l_f2e77cc180a444ba8a84d22f99c9.jpg (http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/41891199/Myrkgrav+l_f2e77cc180a444ba8a84d22f99c9.jpg)
Btw a year ago I had 'emo' hair. I will post it if I find a picture of it.
Quote from: Sparrowhawke on October 04, 2012, 12:29:22 PM
I'm aiming for something like this: http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/41891199/Myrkgrav+l_f2e77cc180a444ba8a84d22f99c9.jpg (http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/41891199/Myrkgrav+l_f2e77cc180a444ba8a84d22f99c9.jpg)
Btw a year ago I had 'emo' hair. I will post it if I find a picture of it.
Okay, so personally, I don't like men with long hair. I think it usually looks unkempt and unprofessional, but everyone has their own preferences to style and not everyone feels the way that I do - and I understand that. However, if you want to have the style that you're aiming for Pre-HRT, you also have to make a decision as to how important potentially passing right now is to you.I can't see
most (meaning there will be some exceptions) guys passing with hair like that until at least a year after having testosterone in their system, so if getting misgendered really bothers you, then you may want to try and cope with something else right now, keeping in mind that your hair can always grow back. If passing more at the moment is the lesser issue to you, then I say that you continue doing what you're doing in hopes that you start HRT in the near future.
Quote from: JasonRX on October 04, 2012, 01:48:17 PM
However, if you want to have the style that you're aiming for Pre-HRT, you also have to make a decision as to how important potentially passing right now is to you.I can't see most (meaning there will be some exceptions) guys passing with hair like that until at least a year after having testosterone in their system, so if getting misgendered really bothers you, then you may want to try and cope with something else right now, keeping in mind that your hair can always grow back. If passing more at the moment is the lesser issue to you, then I say that you continue doing what you're doing in hopes that you start HRT in the near future.
Totally aggree. But I think when you get to being on T for a while, this will look cool.
Maybe comb it differently before you cut it. For example, maybe you might want to try combing your bangs out and trimming them instead of parting it in the middle. Seems like a pretty popular style these days, and you don't have to look like Justin Bieber to have long bangs. I have angled bangs that start really short on one side and end up really long on the other--pretty popular among Asian guys like me, and pretty universal, too. I dunno. Just an alternative suggestion befoer you start chopping it all off.
Sparrow - I have a face that is quite feminine like yours, and I actually pass better with longer hair. I have cut it short on numerous occasions, in different styles, hoping to pass better. but I passed even less, which I didn't think was possible, lol. Plus, because it's thick it would always force itself up and be all fuzzy...one of my friends on here called it the "vanilla ice" effect. So I am never cutting my hair short ever again. :P because she still doesn't let me live it down.
I personally think the long hair suits you. Some of us just need some time on T to pass properly. I'm 5.5 months in and I still struggle with passing, and I've seen people in a similar boat, but most get there eventually.
Found my glasses and I look more male now. Not sure if it's both because of my hair and the glasses. I'm going to post a picture tomorrow because it's too dark right now. Also thank you everyone for answering.
I had really short hair 2 years ago and looking back I really looked feminine because of it. It doesn't really suit me with short bangs (or whatever you want to call it).
Edderkopp I have 'naturally' fuzzy hair and I think that might be what makes me look so feminine. Does somebody know if it will stop after I get on T? I didn't have it before the female 'puberty', but after it my hair got all fuzzy and I got really short hair.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdistilleryimage5.s3.amazonaws.com%2F88f6056a01fe11e2ba6922000a1e9bb0_7.jpg&hash=d125df2253545cce80c490ba775bef95e084fd28)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-snc7%2F420899_192697477500406_753162982_n.jpg&hash=a0f36a59f4d060ab171b2129d7d76e2a4d8e16d4)
blonde is my natural but i liked the black hair. what do i pass better with?
Quote from: dylanjakoby on October 04, 2012, 05:43:01 PM
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blonde is my natural but i liked the black hair. what do i pass better with?
Either. Is that really black or just really dark brown? It looks good! Black always looks fake to me maybe because I have naturally black hair.
Quote from: Sparrowhawke on October 04, 2012, 03:02:06 PM
Edderkopp I have 'naturally' fuzzy hair and I think that might be what makes me look so feminine. Does somebody know if it will stop after I get on T? I didn't have it before the female 'puberty', but after it my hair got all fuzzy and I got really short hair.
It hasn't stopped for me after my time on T. My hair is a bit greasier, and I need less time between haircuts now, but it's fuzzy and thick still.
Edderkopp Then I will just be Mr. Fuzzy-guy
Dylan pass in the 2. picture, but not the first. You just look butch.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDXRNO.jpg%3F1&hash=e744fcf2cc358ebf5dcc9db277584758b3a60cac)
So how do I look? (yes maybe the fake facial hair was too much)
Maybe you could cut your hair just a little bit to look like this...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fslodive.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F05%2Flong-hairstyles-for-men%2Fcasual-hairstyle.jpg&hash=0067c22f3fcfe3ff2af7a8348d09e48b644c7966)
Quote from: Sparrowhawke on October 05, 2012, 01:29:07 AM
So how do I look? (yes maybe the fake facial hair was too much)
I'm sorry, but to be honest, I think you pass even less here.
:-\
Quote from: JasonRX on October 05, 2012, 08:42:37 AM
I'm sorry, but to be honest, I think you pass even less here.
:-\
Aw. Right now I wonder why I want to pass so bad. It's not like it would change anything. Everyone would still think of me as a girl.
Sparrowhawke - I feel as if you look more masculine without your glasses, it's almost as if your glasses may be framing your face in a more feminine way. Loads of guys have long hair, but I think it's more difficult for FTMs who feel more comfy with longer hair in terms of passing. I think this would change on T though, so once you give yourself time for T to work, your face will become more masculine and you'd pass better with long hair. I really do think you should keep the long hair though, especially if you want to keep it.
Also, don't be so hard on yourself - if you feel more masculine/feel like you look more masculine, then you'll feel more comfortable and that's what it would change - how comfortable you feel in yourself. Try not to focus too much on whether the people around you percieve you as male. It's how you feel inside which matters most.
Hope this helps somewhat.
Sparrowhawke I had a really long reply typed out while I was waiting for my train earlier but my phone threw a fit at having to handle so much text and I lost it all. But it's worth remembering that a lot of cis guys struggle to look male with long hair, for example Sebastian Bach, and they've had T as their main hormone their whole life.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fload.kovideo.net%2Fs%2Fraw%2Fn%2Fsebastian-bach-book.jpg&hash=c4f288cbe1f18e00690d106ec6a85dd6afb618e5)
I also feel that you look less feminine without your glasses, and your eyebrows look pretty thin, and they stand out a little because your hair is very light while they're dark, which doesn't help much so maybe try not plucking them if you do. I don't really know what else to suggest really if you're not up for cutting your hair except try and leave it pretty messy, most guys with longer hair don't look like they've brushed it except to run their fingers though it, which doesn't really count.
dylanjakoby I'd say the darker hair looks better, but you're pictures aren't too easy to tell by.
Thanks guys that really helped.
Alex I don't pluck my eyebrows at all. Maybe I should to make them look more white so they don't stand out or something.
Jack I think the reason why I'm being so hard to myself is because I'm vary depressed due nobody at my school views me al male and I don't know what to do. You are right I should do this pass thing for my self.
Quote from: Sparrowhawke on October 05, 2012, 01:56:55 PM
Thanks guys that really helped.
Alex I don't pluck my eyebrows at all. Maybe I should to make them look more white so they don't stand out or something.
Jack I think the reason why I'm being so hard to myself is because I'm vary depressed due nobody at my school views me al male and I don't know what to do. You are right I should do this pass thing for my self.
You look like a handsome young dude to me; if I was younger... :angel:
Quote from: Sparrowhawke on October 05, 2012, 01:29:07 AM
Edderkopp Then I will just be Mr. Fuzzy-guy
Dylan pass in the 2. picture, but not the first. You just look butch.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDXRNO.jpg%3F1&hash=e744fcf2cc358ebf5dcc9db277584758b3a60cac)
So how do I look? (yes maybe the fake facial hair was too much)
Its all about the hair on your head ^.^ I can see the potential in your face though.
SparrowHawke, You remind me a bit of Sid from the first series of Skins :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m6n6xi1OsK1raoiaqo1_500.jpg&hash=24358b61a48da834d68aaf9c46ccf9437df2c006)
DrillQuip, absolutely a guy.
Sid from Skins is cute. Sparrowhawke, you could DEFINITELY pull that look off! :)
Drill you look like a dude.
So I took your advise. I took my step-dads glasses and dried my hair brown.
Quote from: Isabelle on October 05, 2012, 06:49:51 PM
SparrowHawke, You remind me a bit of Sid from the first series of Skins :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m6n6xi1OsK1raoiaqo1_500.jpg&hash=24358b61a48da834d68aaf9c46ccf9437df2c006)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FvFmEN.jpg&hash=63531d5444babbd9eeb334cf32b424f503dbc124) My Sid look
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3fF9s.jpg&hash=d40077024291f252a8b0982df07f852bbf51716c) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlLUjY.jpg&hash=eed1076384ca0894ed981fb1f3b30c6b98b818c3) My normal look
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3xl7v.jpg&hash=f3496b9b2f9e1d7c2446d668a221063aa930bbc8) Without glasses
I think you are on the right track! Hope you are feeling better. :)
Hey guys, I haven't been around the boards in a while due to starting college (which has been absolutely a wonderful experience so far). I think I am about 7 months on T or something like that, I sort of lost track after four months. But lately I feel like my chest either got slightly more masculine due to subtle effects of T, or other parts of me changing just makes them seem more masculine. But anyways I am wondering if they pass without a binder and just wearing an a-shirt. I am kinda skinny so I think even though they appear to be sort of like pecs, they probably don't completely fit with my body type. But I am just wondering if they are in some sort of male range, like a guy with gynecomastesia or something. I want to be able to walk out of my dorm to the bathroom and maybe even exercise without wearing more layers than necessary.
I made it as a video because I'm thinking it would be easier to tell than just snapshots.
http://youtu.be/O7NFPsinExA (http://youtu.be/O7NFPsinExA)
Thanks so much in advance, guys.
Sparrowhawk, I like your last picture. You look masculine there to me.
I'd post a picture but I'm worried that my picture would be seen by others in real life. Plus I'm not that confident. So, any tips on passing in general?
Henri, you're definitely lucky to have a chest that looks like that without a binder, unfortunately, I think you should still wear one. Maybe it's because I was looking for it but I thought your chest looked too rounded from the front and stuck out a little too far from the side. You look great otherwise though!!
Thanks guys, just needed some feedback since I've never actually asked anyone if I pass or not. Now if I could just lower my voice, or learn sign language, I'll be all set.
SparrowHawke:
Perfect. All those photos of you look 100% masculine to me.
and thanks. I appreciate the feedback. :)
Henri:
I think you'd pass pretty well without a binder. At least if you were going out to shop or whatever and people weren't seeing you up close. But I think a binder would be a good idea for up close encounters just to be safe.
I say this mostly out of personal preference I guess, because my chest is also pretty flat without a binder. But it's nice to have the extra security.
EdwardBane:
If you post a picture from a site like photo bucket, you can always remove the image later if you want to be private. Otherwise, the general rule of thumb for me is short, dark hair and no makeup. Check out guys in real life and magazines for men. See what styles would work for you.
DrillQuip: Thanks, I will take your advice. :D
Sparrow ... you really do look like that Sid character! I think the darker hair works. Everyone has told me I pass better with the darker hair as well.
Drill ... I'd definitely think dude if I saw you on the street.
Henri .... I also wish I had your chest! From the side it actually just looks like you have nice pecs. But I think the "illusion" of that is problematic only because you don't have the big guns that usually accompany a dude with pecs like that. It's not like you'd have to be totally ripped though. You have a nice body, if you worked on the upper body some I think you could totally pull off not biding after the chest/arm muscle development.
Here's a pic I took of myself today. Haven't combed or washed my hair in like 3 days. Although I did straighten it 3 days ago, I've just been waking up and running my hands through it. So how's the messy hair change my look? More andro-femme or andro-dude?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi425.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fpp333%2Fpfftwtf%2Fhhh.jpg&hash=8a68f14640f2a2ded67160b44911b1c7c4bee4f7)
Henri, you pass in my book, too. In fact, it's amazing how well all of you guys pass. My ex passed so well, I didn't even know he was trans until he told me after the 3rd date!
Inside You look male to me, but then again I thought you looked male when everybody said you didn't pass so I might not be the best person to ask.
Also everyone keep saying I look masculine, but does that mean I pass or not?
Quote from: Sparrowhawke on October 07, 2012, 01:28:52 AM
Inside You look male to me, but then again I thought you looked male when everybody said you didn't pass so I might not be the best person to ask.
Also everyone keep saying I look masculine, but does that mean I pass or not?
Thanks Sparrowhawke ... and I'd say your last pic without the glasses and the first pic with the glasses and beanie you look like a younger guy ... maybe teens. I think you have more masculine facial structure which will be accentuated if you do get on T. And if you get on T and start to grow noticeable facial hair I don't think you'd have a problem at all with the longer hair. Obviously I'm not the best guy to ask about the hair thing since, well you know I'm rocking the longer hair lol
Quote from: insideontheoutside on October 07, 2012, 02:06:30 AM
Thanks Sparrowhawke ... and I'd say your last pic without the glasses and the first pic with the glasses and beanie you look like a younger guy ... maybe teens. I think you have more masculine facial structure which will be accentuated if you do get on T. And if you get on T and start to grow noticeable facial hair I don't think you'd have a problem at all with the longer hair. Obviously I'm not the best guy to ask about the hair thing since, well you know I'm rocking the longer hair lol
It's okay I look like I'm in my teens because. Well I am in my teens. Late teens anyway. Thanks Insideontheoutside
Sparrow, you pass without glasses to me. :)
Quote from: insideontheoutside on October 06, 2012, 09:08:00 PM
Here's a pic I took of myself today. Haven't combed or washed my hair in like 3 days. Although I did straighten it 3 days ago, I've just been waking up and running my hands through it. So how's the messy hair change my look? More andro-femme or andro-dude?
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You look like a young man to me. There's not a lot of room for androgyny in this look imho.
SparrowHawke: I see what you mean. To clarify, when I said masculine I meant in the sense that you look like a young man. I forget sometimes that some people are masculine without seeming male though. Something to remember.
Thanks for all the responses guys! I agree that my chest looks a bit too "well developed" compared to the relative lack of muscle in my arms and everywhere else. I've tried something else today that is perhaps an improvement (basically I used athletic tape to tape the chesticles to the sides and hopefully make it look more flat or natural or something of that sort).
http://youtu.be/pc5n1hepZns (http://youtu.be/pc5n1hepZns) Skip to 1:20 to avoid rambling.
Insideontheoutside, I do think you are looking male in that picture! But holy crap not washing your hair in days, that is some dedication. Perhaps you could get the same messy effect with some type of hair wax or pomade?
Quote from: Henri on October 07, 2012, 05:10:49 PM
http://youtu.be/pc5n1hepZns (http://youtu.be/pc5n1hepZns) Skip to 1:20 to avoid rambling.
I think that looks pretty good.
it's pretty close if people weren't focusing on you/ your chest I doubt they would really notice. Lookin good in that vid. insideonetheoutside have you tried hair putty or anything I use that sometimes to get that kinda effect in the past.
heres a few pics or me these days
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only seem to be passing about half the time any suggestions? I do know my hair has grown out a lot.
Traivs: I'd say pass for like a 13-14 year old guy
wonder how i can look older i am 22 :( and every time i take my son places people say its so sweet your taking your little brother places ect...
Quote from: Traivs on October 07, 2012, 09:08:02 PM
wonder how i can look older i am 22 :( and every time i take my son places people say its so sweet your taking your little brother places ect...
this is how i feel! i look like i am 12 i mean i don't have a kid but still! i think for you though a short hair cut might help you out.
yeah it just grew out i plan on cutting it this month i was just attempting to get my bangs long enough to do the superman curl for halloween
Quote from: Henri on October 07, 2012, 05:10:49 PM
http://youtu.be/pc5n1hepZns (http://youtu.be/pc5n1hepZns) Skip to 1:20 to avoid rambling.
Insideontheoutside, I do think you are looking male in that picture! But holy crap not washing your hair in days, that is some dedication. Perhaps you could get the same messy effect with some type of hair wax or pomade?
Insideoutside:
I agree with the others, some kind of hair product would get that effect. I say go for a gel or a simple texturizer. A wax or pomade might be too strong. http://www.haircutsformen.org/buzz/pages/tipsproducts2.htm (http://www.haircutsformen.org/buzz/pages/tipsproducts2.htm)
Henri:
I think your chest looks flatter now for sure, but the scoop in the middle is a little awkward. My verdict is the same. For passing glances it wont matter, but up close and personal it might be more noticeable.
Traivs:
You appear to be a young man in those photos. I'm not sure how to help with how old you look. When men get older, even if they dont get really muscly, they do have an added thickness to their faces, necks, and overall build. Your clothes are masculine, there's nothing to change there imo. It's your physic that makes you look young. The only thing I can think of is to cut your hair shorter. I know that when some people cut their hair really short it brings out their face and makes it more pronounced. It might or might not help, but it's a thought.
Quote from: Traivs on October 07, 2012, 09:27:08 PM
yeah it just grew out i plan on cutting it this month i was just attempting to get my bangs long enough to do the superman curl for halloween
my friends and i are going out as superheroes as well. i hope you post a picture of your curl i would like to see it lol
not sure if i can handle waiting that long to cut my hair since my ability to pass has dropped this month but if i do manage it i will totally post it for you
Lemme ask you guys something. What do passing as a guy and passing for your age have to do with each other? Just curious. I am 33 and I can't pass for 33. I get carded all the time. In fact, the other day a bar tender almost didn't give my license back because she didn't believe I was my age. I dated a guy who was finishing college and every time he introduced me to his friends, they would ask what I was majoring in. So I guess I pass as a college student, lol! But I think it's okay to pass as a guy younger than you are. Trust me. When you're my age, you will feel thankful that people still think you are young.
I don't think it would bother me so much if it wasn't pre teen- early teens age grouping that I get judged at. Since I have a kid and look 13-14 I get weird looks and comments. Plus someone said to my last girlfriend who was 3 almost 4 yrs younger than me that it was creepy she was dating someone so young. even though i am 22 and she was 19
Oh yeah I get it now. I can understand the frustration if you are in your 20s and people treat you like you're in your early teens.
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He's precious! Anyway, I guess that's something you're gonna have to accept cuz you do look young, but you also pass very well IMO, says the guy who didn't know he was dating a trans guy until he came out to me. Yeah, I had to accept that whenever we hung out, people would think I was in college since he was in college.
And BTW sorry for always talking about my ex. He and two of his friends are the only trans guys I know and that's all I have to go by as of now.
Yeah there's nothing i can do but accept it even when i was dressing as a girl a few years back i was pegged as 16 when i was 19 so this is nothing new. I was just hoping that there was something I could do to look a bit older. Also my mom is like 48 and is being asked if she's in her early 30's most of the time so it might just be genetic. At least I am passing half the time or so.... thats a start. I am not super short though i am 5ft 9in -5ft 10in give or take.
Quote from: Traivs on October 07, 2012, 11:29:53 PM
I am not super short though i am 5ft 9in -5ft 10in give or take.
That's an under-statement. I think 5'10 is about average height for a guy.
Thanks everyone who commented.
As for the hair thing, it's difficult to get that messy look. I can't use a lot of the products because they actually wet the hair enough to make it start curling. I have some wax that I use now and then but it also doesn't get quite the same look.
As for everyone looking younger than they are, I've been there done that myself. Obviously clothing comes into play with that. Dressing like a 30+ year old rather than a 20+ year old makes a difference (even though I don't always practice that one myself!). If you're in college and you actually are in your 20s and you're still getting clocked at 13 or something it probably is a matter of build and shaving/not shaving. If you've got the baby face, people are just going to think you're a teen boy who hasn't started shaving yet.
Quote from: dalebert on October 08, 2012, 09:58:20 AM
That's an under-statement. I think 5'10 is about average height for a guy.
haha yeah but i come from a family of tall people my sister is 6ft 1in my brother is 6ft 2-3inches same with my dad. I am the shortest so i guess thats why i feel short.
Inside it may be because I have no facial hair I don't shave but even if i did we have to be clean shaven at my work. Though that is something I have thought about. Also that sucks that it starts to curl have you tried hair putty or just wax cause its a different consistency
Quote from: Traivs on October 08, 2012, 06:35:59 PM
haha yeah but i come from a family of tall people my sister is 6ft 1in my brother is 6ft 2-3inches same with my dad. I am the shortest so i guess thats why i feel short.
Inside it may be because I have no facial hair I don't shave but even if i did we have to be clean shaven at my work. Though that is something I have thought about. Also that sucks that it starts to curl have you tried hair putty or just wax cause its a different consistency
You're lucky you're taller! That at least helps some.
The hair wax seems to work ok. Any kind of gel or mousse consistency thing doesn't.
It's so wired Inside. I have messy hair by default. I seriously can't get rid of it. I really want it gone sometimes, but you really want it... Couldn't it just be easier if I could give you some of my messiness?
Quote from: Henri on October 07, 2012, 05:10:49 PM
http://youtu.be/pc5n1hepZns (http://youtu.be/pc5n1hepZns)
You look great! Your chest is definitely in the male range. One thing that might help is to get a tank top with a higher neckline. Something like this can make you look even more masculine.
http://www.amazon.com/GUESS-Daedalus-Tank-BLACK-SMALL/dp/B008OIT2JK/ref=sr_1_33?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1349764573&sr=1-33
Hello! My name is Tom and I'm newbie here. I'm ftm since last year. I think that I'm look awful :( like female. I'm 19 years old and haven't started T yet. Could you tell me what I should do to make my body more male?
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Tom I wouldn't say you looked female. There are one or two female traits about you, mainly just the lack of facial hair and the fact that you do have some hips, but other than that you pass perfectly. I don't really think people take into account things like hips unless they're very observant, I know that I never look at that part of a persons body unless there's a specific reason, all my judgement goes off the face and if I'm really struggling, chest -- and you're perfectly flat in that area. Actually, when I saw your first photo I immediately thought, "->-bleeped-<-, that's my mate from college!" before looking closer and remembering that Tom is his last name not his first name! Your last photo looks like a different guy from college as well, so all in all you look pretty male. I'd put your age as between 16 and 18, as although you've not got facial hair and have a bit of a baby face you look more mature than a young teen.
Tom: i agree with alex and i also think different glasses frames would actually help, perhaps frames that are thicker or just darker in color (not sure if you've tried this or not though) and as for the hips i think the shirt in the last photo really accents your hips, if you wear those types of shirts/shirts with that type of fitting i'd suggest something else that doesn't hug your sides as much. I hope I helped! :)
Thank you guys for your advices. Really, my face and my hips makes me worry about my pass. I usually wear jeans or trousers bigger on the size, then it is required for me. Than the legs seemed thicker and the body looks more like a male.
Alex I really liked to read your post. I think all of those female traits could dissapeared, when I start tаking a testosteron. And I know one 22 y.o. guy who is biological man and haven't got facial hair yet. I have now my third year at the college and most of people think that I'm going to the high school.
pretty male :) it is pleasant to me, but my baby face...How can I improve that? I'm fat and worry about it.
ty.to.the.man thanks for the frames of glasses, I think it really could help. This shirt really looks unsuccesfully on me.
I don't really know how you can make your face look older without T, female and younger boy's faces just tend to be rounder than male ones. Without T I'm not sure what you can do to help, losing weight might help a bit, but it's not guaranteed that you're going to lose weight off your face. T tends to age people pretty quickly, so if you're planning on starting T soon that shouldn't be a problem for much longer. You still look a reasonable age though, I look fourteen, and while all of my mates my age have no problem buying filters, rizlas or lighters from a certain shop near us, I have no hope at all. None of us are actually old enough but they're lucky enough to be full of testosterone while I'm not.
I just knocked up a few bad edits on photoshop showing you with different glasses/stubble. They're not very good but thought I might as well, you can't achieve the stubble without T but it's something to look forward to I suppose. The glasses aren't actually as pink as they look, the photo I stole them from had pretty poor lighting.
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Tom - plenty of people have the "baby face" problem. At some point you'll get on T and that will most likely not be a problem anymore.
For a lot of people I don't necessarily think it's the shape of the face, it's the lack of facial hair. As Alex and his photoshoping skills show, the fake stubble makes a world of difference.
I've decided to concentrate more on my body lately. I had to give up working out as hard as I was for about 6 months because of a shoulder injury, but I'm finally on the mend from that and hoping to build a bit more muscle. I was wondering if you guys thought my body passes as is in the photo below (not looking for outfit advice here just body shape). Thanks
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@tom probably a no or iffy currently but it is mostly skin tone and face fat profile so once you get on T for a while you should def. pass.
@inside from what I can see I would say yes :) but you have to be a little careful 'cause those mirror shots will be a little flattering (on shoulder-hip ratio) due to the position and angle of the camera!
Quote from: pretty on October 15, 2012, 01:29:10 AM
@tom probably a no or iffy currently but it is mostly skin tone and face fat profile so once you get on T for a while you should def. pass.
@inside from what I can see I would say yes :) but you have to be a little careful 'cause those mirror shots will be a little flattering (on shoulder-hip ratio) due to the position and angle of the camera!
Thanks. My shoulders actually are wider than my hips without the mirror ratio so I
think I'm ok in that department ;)
Quote from: insideontheoutside on October 15, 2012, 11:56:06 PM
Thanks. My shoulders actually are wider than my hips without the mirror ratio so I think I'm ok in that department ;)
I figured lol. I love owl shirts btw!! :D
Alex Thanks for the picture, it looks really cool, and only with thinker glasses I can look older. I look unusually with stubble and I prefer a more light version of that but it can explain how can change my appearance. Unfortunately, I'm planning starting T through 2 years, caurse I can't tell that I'm Ftm at the university. I want to make it very much, but I don't have enough courage. Our universiry is very conservative and I'm afraid that people there couldn't understand me.
I also have problems with buying cigarettes - no one can believe that I'm older than 18.
inside you look excellent, I think that your body is almost male
pretty I have just noticed that skin tone is pink :icon_ashamed:
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New pics and new hair! I have a stupid smile. Oh well. Still pre-T, but that will probably change after new years. Also, acne is a beeyotch
Quote from: LilRingo on October 16, 2012, 07:27:43 PM
New pics and new hair! I have a stupid smile. Oh well. Still pre-T, but that will probably change after new years. Also, acne is a beeyotch
You look great! Can't believe you're still pre-T either.
As for acne, that kinda says 'male' to me because most girls around here have so much make-up on it'd be difficult telling them apart from a tangerine let alone spotting any acne :P
Quote from: Alex000000 on October 16, 2012, 07:30:38 PM
You look great! Can't believe you're still pre-T either.
Most girls around here have so much make-up on it'd be difficult telling them apart from a tangerine let alone spotting any acne :P
Amen brother. and thanks :)
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New pics and new hair! I have a stupid smile. Oh well. Still pre-T, but that will probably change after new years. Also, acne is a beeyotch
jealous of ur jawline
So, cut my hair recently, started T last Friday, decided it was time for some new pictures. Warning, I am a goof.
So let's start out with a real picture (not me joking around):
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Glasses (they're new too):
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Now Dancing!
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So, in my eyes (and my roommates), I pass, but I'm bias and likely to look into the mirror and see the most lumberjack-y that ever jacked lumber. What do you all think?
Quote from: Prince Sal on October 18, 2012, 09:59:49 AM
So, in my eyes (and my roommates), I pass, but I'm bias and likely to look into the mirror and see the most lumberjack-y that ever jacked lumber. What do you all think?
Pass
Quote from: dalebert on October 18, 2012, 03:22:12 PM
Pass
Thanks, any suggestions on how to pass more? I've been stealth but I still get her'd and she'd by the call center agents when I have to go fix their computers. Maybe it will change when I get more facial hair *fingers crossed*
Prince Sal - Id say you pass :)
Why was this unstickied?
new glasses and new haircut. i want completely honest full opinions please :) (im really tired dont judge lol)
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Quote from: Darrin Scott on October 18, 2012, 06:46:16 PM
Why was this unstickied?
No idea...might be another one in the works?
Quote from: Prince Sal on October 18, 2012, 04:06:42 PM
Thanks, any suggestions on how to pass more? I've been stealth but I still get her'd and she'd by the call center agents when I have to go fix their computers. Maybe it will change when I get more facial hair *fingers crossed*
That might just be voice-related I'm guessing. I think it's hard to do much about that other than wait for T to deepen your voice. Maybe someone else has a better suggestion though. Also, the lighting is kind of dim in those pics. It might help people to see and make suggestions with brighter pics.
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on October 18, 2012, 08:06:46 PM
new glasses and new haircut. i want completely honest full opinions please :) (im really tired dont judge lol)
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lookin like a baller as per usual homie. glasses are a great fit and haircut def suits you. 100% pass. when are you starting T?
Ty - youre looking really well.
In your 2nd picture, you actually kinda remind me of a much younger Jake Gyllenhaal...
Quote from: dalebert on October 18, 2012, 10:11:02 PM
That might just be voice-related I'm guessing. I think it's hard to do much about that other than wait for T to deepen your voice. Maybe someone else has a better suggestion though. Also, the lighting is kind of dim in those pics. It might help people to see and make suggestions with brighter pics.
Clearer pictures, okay. Yeah, those were taken with my laptop camera. ^_^'
Thanks, Dalebert!
@Ty: I don't know how old you are, but you just look like a high school guy to me, in fact I can think of several guys I went to high school with that if I had seen your picture, would have thought you were their younger brother.
You haircut works, your face shape a lot, and the small thin chain you are wearing really seems very masculine to me.
I'd like to see a picture of you smiling, instead of the same expression in both pictures, if you want me to be entirely honest.
KyleXX: My moms setting up an endo appointment hopefully soon, Ive been waiting sooooo long im dying!!
Make_It_Good: Thanks! yeah ive been told that, my friend calls me spidey because he thinks i look like a young toby mcguire haha
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on October 18, 2012, 08:06:46 PM
new glasses and new haircut. i want completely honest full opinions please :) (im really tired dont judge lol)
Ty, you just look like a really young guy to me. If I recall correctly, you ARE a really young guy, so I imagine that shouldn't bother you.
Have I missed something or has this been destickyfied? Maybe sleep deprivation is making me go mental...
And Ty, you pass awesomely as usual! So lucky!
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on October 19, 2012, 05:36:46 PM
KyleXX: My moms setting up an endo appointment hopefully soon, Ive been waiting sooooo long im dying!!
Make_It_Good: Thanks! yeah ive been told that, my friend calls me spidey because he thinks i look like a young toby mcguire haha
I thought you were on T? The gel kind.
Andy: yeah but 1) it does barely anything and 2) i dont really use it consistently because of 1. so i dont really count it lol
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on October 19, 2012, 07:47:12 PM
Andy: yeah but 1) it does barely anything and 2) i dont really use it consistently because of 1. so i dont really count it lol
If you'd use it consistently you would see results, maybe just not as quick as injections. You can't not use it and then complain that it doesn't work.
Quote from: Andy8715 on October 19, 2012, 08:27:43 PM
If you'd use it consistently you would see results, maybe just not as quick as injections. You can't not use it and then complain that it doesn't work.
My understanding is that with the gel (correct me if I am wrong) you need to use it every day. Obviously missing once or twice wouldn't be a huge deal but this would be something you would need to use for weeks perhaps several months (daily) to see changes. I know people who haven't used anything but gel for their whole transition, so it does work the same way. There are a few endrochrinology reasons why T might not work such as if it changes to estrogen, so if it doesn't work you shouldn't just stop, you should discuss with your endocrinologist. I'm thinking the doc won't be so interested if you say "well I stopped" or "I take once in awhile".
--Jay J
if i was a doctor id be worried that you werent ready for injectable T if you werent taking the gel. And well, the gel can only do good, and does work, so its worth using. Id be over the moon if i was prescribed T inn any form, including gel
the gel is only 1% testosterone, i have used it for 2 months straight with no skips and it did absolutely nothing. I'm not saying i skip like weeks but i do skip a few days every once in a little while. I was excited when I first got it but then i realized how little it does even if its used consistently. My doctor said that the amount in the gel isn't enough to give significant results even if you use it consistently for a long time.
The gel also comes in 1.62% now. Not sure if its results are that much different from the 1%, but it would be worth a shot.
Lee: i doubt it would make much of a difference but I'm not prescribed that one anyways
Ty: Looking back at your past photos it does seem like there's a bit of a difference from when you were pre-T. Not much, because you passed really well anyway, but your face has changed a little and you definitely look older. So I'd just not get downhearted about it and keep using it until you can get on something else.
Alex: thanks. (that also might just be me getting older lol) but anyways thats what i have to do no matter what, i was just saying that ill hopefully be on shots soon and am DYING to start and see some real changes :)
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Could someone re-stick this? I don't want to loss this thread :/
Bump!
You guys are all amazing! I'm still stunned, haha... so many handsome guys!
Not gonna lie, but I'm super curious as to why this has been unstickied
want to know too.
Let us pray to glorious leader that we may have this thread stickied again. And not because I want to oggle dudes, for educational purposes. Or something. Yeah. :o
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Quote from: JasonRX on February 13, 2012, 01:26:39 AM
First post!
:laugh:
Yeah!
I wish I had a picture worthy of posting.
:icon_chew: :icon_chew: :icon_chew: :icon_chew: :icon_chew: :icon_chew:YEAH!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
I know that I can pass fairly well, I get a lot of "cheers mate"'s when I'm paying in shops/getting off busses, and people have called me a guy straight out before, as well as one lecturer constantly saying "LADY and gentlemen" to refer to our class with me, a girl and eleven or so guys in (that really riles the girl, I think she thinks she's sticking up for me or something when she corrects him, but its the "correction" that annoys me most.) At the very least I tend to get young kids asking each other loudly whether they think I'm a "boy or girl". Then someone compliments me on my haircut and says that "it's not often you can get a short hair cut to look that cute and feminine." I know I need a haircut, but I'm always scared of it getting cut too feminine -- the hair dressers all know me because it's a small place and we used to run a popular pub -- and I struggle to get the time off work to go and have it cut. So I'm pretty confused as to whether or not I pass or not, especially as I found out today that some builders spoke to the chef at work and said something about "that boy that walked through here looked pretty miserable," only to be told that I was the waitress, which they didn't believe at all and were adamant that I was a guy, which is brilliant because no one's ever been that confident about my gender before.
Anyway, what do you guys, girls and other peoples think? Because I'm getting conflicting views on what I am at the minute.
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This isn't a furry coat, it's a blanket. I'm curled up in front of a halogen heater because it's cold enough to see my breath in here.
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My body (ish):
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And do you think I'm more of an Alex or an Adam? I'm fluctuating between the two again.
P.S.: Someone please sticky this again?
I like the name Alex, but it's gender-neutral and you might be more likely to be read as female if you use it. Your face looks like it could be taken either way. The body shot looks great, though.
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You guys like my Adventure Time gloves?
I agree, the face could go either way for me. Body seems to pass though. And I agree with the name, Alex I like better but its gender neutral so that could hinder your passing.
Adam is a pretty sweet name. Alex of course is gender neutral (beats horse) but I also like that name a lot.
You actually remind me a lot of how I looked as a boy, different hairstyle of course. Siblings, maybe? Lol.
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@Alex000000: Hard to tell.
@Sly: Pass.
@harmonic_dissonance: Pass as a young guy, about 15.
Here is my pre T and over a year on T. Do you see any changes? I don't see much. I think I basically look the same. What do you guys think? And I still don't pass. I'm about 50/50 in passing only with my hair short. I don't pass with long hair which sucks cause I really wanna grow out my hair.
Pre-T Almost 2 years on T
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Here's a full length pic of me with my cousins, and you can see how short I am. It totally sucks. Everyone is taller than me, even my 16 year old cousin is taller than me.
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Yes, you totally pass Dominick.
Quote from: Andy8715 on October 29, 2012, 11:09:24 PM
Yes, you totally pass Dominick.
Thanks. I seem to pass in pics but not in real life.
Quote from: Dominick_81 on October 29, 2012, 11:12:20 PM
Thanks. I seem to pass in pics but not in real life.
I don't see why not, you have visual facial hair and look like a man.
Quote from: Andy8715 on October 29, 2012, 11:13:04 PM
I don't see why not, you have visual facial hair and look like a man.
I know, I don't get it either. I'm blaming my height. I'm just way too short. I thought I was 4'11, turns out I'm 4'8... I guess I shrunk or something.
Quote from: Dominick_81 on October 29, 2012, 11:06:48 PM
@Alex000000: Hard to tell.
@Sly: Pass.
@harmonic_dissonance: Pass as a young guy, about 15.
Here is my pre T and over a year on T. Do you see any changes? I don't see much. I think I basically look the same. What do you guys think? And I still don't pass. I'm about 50/50 in passing only with my hair short. I don't pass with long hair which sucks cause I really wanna grow out my hair.
Pre-T Almost 2 years on T
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i don't understand how/why anyone would call you anything other than 100% male.
@KyleXX: I'm guessing it's my height. I just put up a full length pic of me.
Well, your face totally passes as others have said - you've actually got a lot of handsome features, and I'm jealous of that.
your full body pic tells a different story though. Your clothes are a bit large on you, which makes you look even smaller than you are, and you don't look very confident judging by your pose. I'm not necessarily criticizing you for that, because I don't always have a very confident air about myself either and that probably hinders my passing as well sometimes. But when I saw that pic, that was the very first thing that came to my mind.
Quote from: .caleb on October 30, 2012, 12:35:18 AM
Well, your face totally passes as others have said - you've actually got a lot of handsome features, and I'm jealous of that.
your full body pic tells a different story though. Your clothes are a bit large on you, which makes you look even smaller than you are, and you don't look very confident judging by your pose. I'm not necessarily criticizing you for that, because I don't always have a very confident air about myself either and that probably hinders my passing as well sometimes. But when I saw that pic, that was the very first thing that came to my mind.
Thanks. In the full length pic, the sun was directly in my eyes so I was squinting there, everyone was, lol. I was also mad that I couldn't go to my uncles wedding complete as myself, I wanted to wear a tie like my cousins.
Yeah, I tend to wear baggy clothes sometimes.
I've been told lately by four different people that I look more feminine, I don't know if its my hair getting longer but I've been told by all these people that I sound like a women who smokes everyday LOL
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@owls: You look male to me.
Quote from: Dominick_81 on October 29, 2012, 11:06:48 PM
Here is my pre T and over a year on T. Do you see any changes? I don't see much.
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I see significant changes. I honestly think this 2nd pic has graduated from "do I pass" and belongs in the badass thread.
@Owls
Total pass to me.
Quote from: dalebert on October 30, 2012, 09:35:57 AM
I see significant changes. I honestly think this 2nd pic has graduated from "do I pass" and belongs in the badass thread.
@Owls
Total pass to me.
Agree with you. Totally bad-ass
Dominick, I think you pass really well.
My recommendation for passing better in person regarding your height though, is to wear more fitting clothes. In that picture, those clothes were really baggy and gave you an appearance of your legs looking shorter. If you wear more fitting pants, you will look a bit taller.
Quote from: Dominick_81 on October 29, 2012, 11:06:48 PMHere is my pre T and over a year on T. Do you see any changes? I don't see much. I think I basically look the same. What do you guys think? And I still don't pass. I'm about 50/50 in passing only with my hair short. I don't pass with long hair which sucks cause I really wanna grow out my hair.
Pre-T Almost 2 years on T
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Total pass. You look really good.
Thanks guys!
Hi, I didn't start testosterone yet. I was wondering if I pass with sort of short looking hair.
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WSN - to me, yes I think you could based on those pics which is an achievement without T.
I'm hoping for some passing feedback... Feeling quite un-confident at the moment any comments or tips would be appreciated:
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http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u387/cowboyryan1985/13BD0D67-7A08-4C69-A474-C13201408606-5987-000006031ED80EB1_zpse0b3b679.jpg (http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u387/cowboyryan1985/13BD0D67-7A08-4C69-A474-C13201408606-5987-000006031ED80EB1_zpse0b3b679.jpg)
http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u387/cowboyryan1985/E3837913-C3AD-4AF2-A0BB-B8EB278A7EDA-5987-000006030887502A_zpsaf2f7d4b.jpg (http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u387/cowboyryan1985/E3837913-C3AD-4AF2-A0BB-B8EB278A7EDA-5987-000006030887502A_zpsaf2f7d4b.jpg)
http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u387/cowboyryan1985/7707BE66-AD07-419A-9306-C29ED459A5D6-5987-00000602EA215C6C_zps7aeffa57.jpg (http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u387/cowboyryan1985/7707BE66-AD07-419A-9306-C29ED459A5D6-5987-00000602EA215C6C_zps7aeffa57.jpg)
Quote from: ryanronald on November 04, 2012, 05:56:08 PM
WSN - to me, yes I think you could based on those pics which is an achievement without T.
I'm hoping for some passing feedback... Feeling quite un-confident at the moment any comments or tips would be appreciated:
http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u387/cowboyryan1985/090B3FCE-273D-44AE-B0F8-052061144BB1-5987-000006034D3767EF_zps70889a25.jpg (http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u387/cowboyryan1985/090B3FCE-273D-44AE-B0F8-052061144BB1-5987-000006034D3767EF_zps70889a25.jpg)
http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u387/cowboyryan1985/13BD0D67-7A08-4C69-A474-C13201408606-5987-000006031ED80EB1_zpse0b3b679.jpg (http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u387/cowboyryan1985/13BD0D67-7A08-4C69-A474-C13201408606-5987-000006031ED80EB1_zpse0b3b679.jpg)
http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u387/cowboyryan1985/E3837913-C3AD-4AF2-A0BB-B8EB278A7EDA-5987-000006030887502A_zpsaf2f7d4b.jpg (http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u387/cowboyryan1985/E3837913-C3AD-4AF2-A0BB-B8EB278A7EDA-5987-000006030887502A_zpsaf2f7d4b.jpg)
http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u387/cowboyryan1985/7707BE66-AD07-419A-9306-C29ED459A5D6-5987-00000602EA215C6C_zps7aeffa57.jpg (http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u387/cowboyryan1985/7707BE66-AD07-419A-9306-C29ED459A5D6-5987-00000602EA215C6C_zps7aeffa57.jpg)
You pass 100% to me.
Ryan I can't see anyway at all that you wouldn't pass. You look completely male to me.
WSN I can imagine your ability to pass would depend on how often people saw Asian folk. My old school had a lot of Chinese overseas students so I can pick out the feminine parts of your face, however I can easily see how to people who don't see many Asians you would look male to them, especially in the second photograph. It will depend on where you live and how tall you are I think.
Ryan: youve got killer facial hair, pass 200%
WSN: I'd honestly say no pass, the hat seems to make your face look rounder. Maybe post a pic without the hat?
Posted these as their own thread but didn't get a lot of response... Didn't know about this thread. So I guess I'll throw these up here and see if more guys see them.
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Pass, no?
Christopher pass YES. I can't see how anyone could misgender you and you look great. Nice suit too. Dont worry about not realising this thread was here, it got de-stickied and no one knows why...
Christopher- Pass definitely. You might wanna think about getting thicker rimmed glasses. It projects more masculinity, you don't need it but im just informing you :P.
Quote from: Two way Rain on November 04, 2012, 10:58:27 PM
Christopher- Pass definitely. You might wanna think about getting thicker rimmed glasses. It projects more masculinity, you don't need it but im just informing you :P.
Hahah, yes... My glasses are over 2 years old =/ I guess I should get some new ones eh
ryanronald and christopher, you both look awesome. 1000% pass.
Apologies for having the world's grossest mirror, heh. The flash makes it look 1000% nastier than I thought it was when I took these.
Anyway, I've been getting a near 100% pass rate at uni, but the whole goth thing seems to be softening what I can get away with - I passed for a while day wearing lipstick once. People were idiots to me, but they were doing it because they thought guys who wear make up are fair game.
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So yeah, do you think this'd be a pass (is it even now, heh?) without the goth stuff going on? And how old do you think I look? I'm actually 19ish.
Thanks guys.
Based on those pics, which aren't that good for telling, I would say no.
It's hard to tell from those pics but I could see you maybe passing for a few years younger.
Strom I think I can see you passing, maybe not for quite your age, but it gives me a headache to try and tell. Any chance of cleaning the mirror? :P
Quote from: Strom on November 06, 2012, 02:45:37 PM
Apologies for having the world's grossest mirror, heh. The flash makes it look 1000% nastier than I thought it was when I took these.
Hold the camera up, turn it around, and point it at yourself instead of the mirror, bro.
WSN - I think you could pass well. For not being on T, you do look good.
Strom - I cant tell fully, but I think you could pass for quite a young guy, but it would also depend on your mannerisms etc.
Christopher Marius - Looking good.
How long have you been on T by the way? The facial hair you have is pretty much (well, slightly more than...) the amount I can grow at over 3 years on T!
Quote from: Make_It_Good on November 06, 2012, 07:06:00 PM
How long have you been on T by the way? The facial hair you have is pretty much (well, slightly more than...) the amount I can grow at over 3 years on T!
I'm not on T yet. :s
Not sure if I should just jump in here, but whatever.
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I'm Sebastian, I'm 19 and I'm pre-T. My hair is usually black, not this sh*tty color. It kinda depends on the day how confident I feel about how well I pass. Sometimes I'm balling, other times, especially if I'm wearing a girls shirt or something (my boyfriend likes to keep my old female shirts around the house and wear them so I can't throw them out...) I feel girly as hell. With the dysphoria, it sure as hell ain't a good feeling.
sebastian: most deff badass with that facial hair. i give you mad props for being able to grow that being pre-t lol
@Ty,
Actually, it's just crepe hair. Luckily my hair is very curly so that thick stuff looks pretty natural on my face. Takes a little while to put on, though.
Sebastian: oooooh well it looks really good anyways haha
Thanks, man. I just took a picture now to sort of show my upper body. I feel like my binding doesn't get flat enough because my bust is C-D cup, but my boyfriend says I pass just like a fat guy (I am a fat guy so a little extra weight on the chest wouldn't look that suspicious). I might as well not even try on the lower half because I've got child-bearing hips but whatever. I just wanna see if my boyfriend is right or if he's just saying things to keep me content.
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Quote from: sebastianwood on November 10, 2012, 09:28:17 AM
Thanks, man. I just took a picture now to sort of show my upper body. I feel like my binding doesn't get flat enough because my bust is C-D cup, but my boyfriend says I pass just like a fat guy (I am a fat guy so a little extra weight on the chest wouldn't look that suspicious). I might as well not even try on the lower half because I've got child-bearing hips but whatever. I just wanna see if my boyfriend is right or if he's just saying things to keep me content.
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The first picture doesn't quite pass to me, but it doesn't not pass either if that makes sense. I think it might be the eyebrows, but I can't be too negative on that as my own are permanently shaped from years of plucking and waxing them. The angle of the picture also brings your chest out more, but from a more straight-forward straight it would probably just come off as you having large pecks.
The second picture looks just fine to me. :) It reminds me of somebody who's been going to the gym, but hasn't been in a day or two. :)
Thanks for the honest info man. The brows might be a little deceiving because of the angle, but I did just get them shaped, though maybe I will consider just letting them bush out again. (I just like to take care of my appearance, I like to be a well-groomed man.) Do I look my age? I always feel as if I have a baby face.
Quote from: sebastianwood on November 10, 2012, 11:49:06 PM
Thanks for the honest info man. The brows might be a little deceiving because of the angle, but I did just get them shaped, though maybe I will consider just letting them bush out again. (I just like to take care of my appearance, I like to be a well-groomed man.) Do I look my age? I always feel as if I have a baby face.
I'd peg you for around 18. You don't look any younger than the seniors I work with at the high school. You can probably leave the eyebrows; it was probably the angle that made them look even more shaped. I'm fond of being well groomed [which severely hinders me being able to pass especially since I have long hair...I like long hair so sue me :p], too, but I'll probably never have to shape my eyebrows again because I've yanked out enough roots that the hair won't grow back.
Thanks for the honesty, man. I'm 19, so looking 18 ain't no thing to me. I'd say I'm right on track. But that either sucks or is great on the eyebrows, depending on what you want. I got mine naturally tattooed back when I was going through a "am-I-female-or-something-else" crisis, so I'm stuck with that, but luckily they've faded so much I don't think anyone can tell. I just gotta work on covering up another girly tattoo because I'm an idiot.
Quote from: sebastianwood on November 11, 2012, 11:43:04 AM
Thanks for the honesty, man. I'm 19, so looking 18 ain't no thing to me. I'd say I'm right on track. But that either sucks or is great on the eyebrows, depending on what you want. I got mine naturally tattooed back when I was going through a "am-I-female-or-something-else" crisis, so I'm stuck with that, but luckily they've faded so much I don't think anyone can tell. I just gotta work on covering up another girly tattoo because I'm an idiot.
Or sport it proud. :P I have three tattoos on my ankles (one of a hermit crab, the other my dog's paw print, and the other my dog's name) along with a rather feminine looking dragon, but I'm not covering any of them. The dragon will be worked into a partial sleeve, though. I like my tattoos and they mean something to me. -shrug-
Well, I've got a few tats, but the one I'm talking about is this big *ss cherry blossom branch on my side. Could I even have a more feminine tat? I'm thinking about getting part of my back done that transitions into the cherry blossom branch, maybe a samurai or something. I don't even know, I just want to get rid of this stupid thing. Luckily I don't have to see it much when I'm topless, just when I look in the mirror and I'm like--oh, d*mn, I forgot I had that.
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do i pass?
pre-t, starting in 2 weeks.
so tonight i went out with some friends that im not out to and didnt feel like my body was passing. so does it? anything i should change to make it pass better?
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you look 100% male me to me Ty, don't even worry about it
Well, this is my first time posting here! Bit apprehensive about what you guys will have to say, but hey- if you don't start sometime, what's the point?
Anyways, here's some pictures.
Edit: Pictures removed! I'd rather not leave any hanging around right now.
The first is an older picture from almost a year ago, the second is a recent one, though it doesn't show much other than what I look like when I'm past the point of exhaustion, and the third is really blurry. I just wanted to post a recent pic with more than my face (and brag a tiny bit over getting to see The Who, or at least two of the members XP).
Hopefully I'm not too effeminate to be posting here :-\
Feedback is always awesome!
Wow dude, when I saw the second pic I thought, "He looks like he could end up looking like Pete Townshend." Then I saw the third pic so I had to share. I'm jealous, man, can't believe you got to see them, their Quadrophenia tour isn't coming anywhere near me :(
As far as passing though, I don't think you're quite there yet but I definitely see potential, I know you might like your long hair, but for now I bet you'd look awesome with a 60s-type shag cut.
Quote from: tvc15 on November 19, 2012, 12:01:38 AM
Wow dude, when I saw the second pic I thought, "He looks like he could end up looking like Pete Townshend." Then I saw the third pic so I had to share. I'm jealous, man, can't believe you got to see them, their Quadrophenia tour isn't coming anywhere near me :(
As far as passing though, I don't think you're quite there yet but I definitely see potential, I know you might like your long hair, but for now I bet you'd look awesome with a 60s-type shag cut.
Haha, thanks man! I wasn't quite expecting passes, and have been waiting for a long time to get my hair cut. My mother claims that "it was crappily cut last time and has to grow out first". I think it's grown out quite enough.
Ah well, I'll post back when I get it cut or something of the like. Not binding in those, btw- it's probably most obvious in the first picture. I had just adopted the "wear a white shirt under a baggy one" look a while before that. In any case, not going to give up just yet!
Liminal Stranger - You're probably one of the best passing long-haired guys I've seen. One thing I'd suggest is maybe to get some better fitting shirts, the bagginess looks like you're trying to hide something, but if that's your style don't let me change that!
I got a haircut today -- finally! I was so excited before hand because it had grown out a stupid amount because I've only had Sundays off work for months and it took all I had not to hack it off, but now I'm not too sure what to think of it. Might just because I'd hoped that she'd take more off, but I've got to work with it now.
Before haircut:
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Now:
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Sorry about the bad quality, the light's awful here and if I move to where it's brighter the white balance on my phone gets screwed up and turns everything orange. Anyway, thoughts?
Quote from: Alex000000 on November 19, 2012, 03:45:57 PM
Liminal Stranger - You're probably one of the best passing long-haired guys I've seen. One thing I'd suggest is maybe to get some better fitting shirts, the bagginess looks like you're trying to hide something, but if that's your style don't let me change that!
I agree, you look like a few guys I went to high school with, so if I just saw you on the street I probably wouldn't question anything.
Alex, I think you pass in the second picture, the ruffled hair looks good. I think it is just the lighting in the first, but it looks like you have some eyeliner or mascara on.
Alex- Holy mothership, dude. You look awesome. I kind of drift towards those kinds of shirts for whatever reason, though my "style" appears to require at least one clothing item being old, worn, and ripped. If you could call that a style.
But yeah, if you ask me, you pass without a doubt.
LH- Thanks. I go to a performing arts school, so no one even questions guys having long hair. It's just a thing around here, and in this city in general.
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on November 19, 2012, 04:53:24 PM
Alex- Holy mothership, dude. You look awesome. I kind of drift towards those kinds of shirts for whatever reason, though my "style" appears to require at least one clothing item being old, worn, and ripped. If you could call that a style.
But yeah, if you ask me, you pass without a doubt.
Thanks! I know what you mean about clothes like that, I just never throw my old clothes out -- note the yellow shirt in my second photo, I got that on holiday when I couldn't have been more than 9 years old... It still fits.
Quote from: LearnedHand on November 19, 2012, 04:49:22 PM
Alex, I think you pass in the second picture, the ruffled hair looks good. I think it is just the lighting in the first, but it looks like you have some eyeliner or mascara on.
Problem is, my hairs too thick to stay where I put it for more than a couple of hours, no matter what product I use. It's frustrating.
Nope, definitely no make-up at all. I wouldn't have a clue where to start, I tried eyeliner once just to work out what you're supposed to do with it and just ended up drawing things on my face. My eyelashes are just too long, even though I regularly burn them by accident.
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on November 16, 2012, 10:05:37 PM
so tonight i went out with some friends that im not out to and didnt feel like my body was passing. so does it? anything i should change to make it pass better?
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ty you look good maybe try working out i find the more muscular the more guys pass.
anibioman: i do almost every day, my muscle is getting more toned but its sooooooo slow cause im not on a high dosage of T
Quote from: Alex000000 on November 19, 2012, 03:45:57 PM
Liminal Stranger - You're probably one of the best passing long-haired guys I've seen. One thing I'd suggest is maybe to get some better fitting shirts, the bagginess looks like you're trying to hide something, but if that's your style don't let me change that!
I got a haircut today -- finally! I was so excited before hand because it had grown out a stupid amount because I've only had Sundays off work for months and it took all I had not to hack it off, but now I'm not too sure what to think of it. Might just because I'd hoped that she'd take more off, but I've got to work with it now.
Before haircut:
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Now:
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Sorry about the bad quality, the light's awful here and if I move to where it's brighter the white balance on my phone gets screwed up and turns everything orange. Anyway, thoughts?
I think the new hair cut looks good. The darker color looks good too. I think you're naturally in that androgynous range and you're young anyway, right? So could go either way but you look more like a young male to me (especially in your avatar pic).
Yeah I'm young, but probably not as young as you're thinking... I would say but the mods start going crazy, apparently it's not enough to be old enough to be able have a kid and join the army...
Thanks anyway, I'd rather pass as a 12 year old than not all!
Always I've been told I look like a dude, but looking for some criticism.
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Quote from: Trent Licon on November 22, 2012, 12:59:53 PM
Always I've been told I look like a dude, but looking for some criticism.
Sorry. Can't see it at all :(. Maybe the piercings I'm not sure.
Quote from: Trent Licon on November 22, 2012, 12:59:53 PM
Always I've been told I look like a dude, but looking for some criticism.
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I think you pass, but only barely. But that might be because I hang out with a lot of guys who look like you.
Quote from: Trent Licon on November 22, 2012, 12:59:53 PM
Always I've been told I look like a dude, but looking for some criticism.
I see it somewhat, but not quite, if that makes sense. Maybe the hair style...?
You do look pretty androgynous at the least, though. Wouldn't question if you said you were a guy, but I wouldn't make the assumption that you were, either.
Quote from: Sparrowhawke on November 22, 2012, 01:17:47 PM
Sorry. Can't see it at all :(. Maybe the piercings I'm not sure.
I think it's their style.
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on November 22, 2012, 02:15:22 PM
I see it somewhat, but not quite, if that makes sense. Maybe the hair style...?
You do look pretty androgynous at the least, though. Wouldn't question if you said you were a guy, but I wouldn't make the assumption that you were, either.
Yeah I don't have too many out of cosplay from recent. That is a wig though. I have a mohawk that I am cutting currently, and I'm not on T yet. Thank you and everyone else for the criticism though. xD
Quote from: wheat thins are delicious on November 22, 2012, 02:15:44 PM
I think it's their style.
Anything you guys think I could do differently?
Quote from: Trent Licon on November 22, 2012, 04:06:18 PM
Anything you guys think I could do differently?
Your eyebrows are vary light compared to your hair. Maybe you could bleach your hair and dye it brown or you could dye the eyebrows with eye-liner or something more permanent. If you dye them, then please don't do it with hair colour.
Quote from: Sparrowhawke on November 22, 2012, 04:17:38 PM
Your eyebrows are vary light compared to your hair. Maybe you could bleach your hair and dye it brown or you could dye the eyebrows with eye-liner or something more permanent. If you dye them, then please don't do it with hair colour.
yeah I agree. That is a wig that I am wearing for a cosplay. My hair is still a mohawk I am trying to fix because I'm tired of being labeled as a lesbian. Recently I have used eyeliner on my eyebrows. It seems to look better. However, what you said gave me a couple ideas.
Quote from: Sparrowhawke on November 22, 2012, 04:17:38 PM
Your eyebrows are vary light compared to your hair. Maybe you could bleach your hair and dye it brown or you could dye the eyebrows with eye-liner or something more permanent. If you dye them, then please don't do it with hair colour.
No, I would dye them with hair colour. Semi permanent in case you regret. I know a few guy that dyes their brows, because they are so light. And trust me, it looks way better than drawing them on. Or use browshadow/matte eyeshadow.
Quote from: Faun on November 22, 2012, 04:35:25 PM
No, I would dye them with hair colour. Semi permanent in case you regret. I know a few guy that dyes their brows, because they are so light. And trust me, it looks way better than drawing them on. Or use browshadow/matte eyeshadow.
I didn't say that he shouldn't dye them. I have just heard that it's a bad idea to dye them with hair colour. I have actually been painting my eyebrows with eye liner and it looked fine. To be it sounds like you think that I painted on my skin. I did not. I painted my eyebrows. I'm not sure where you got that from.
Jumping in here.
My profile picture is my most recent photo.
No T, no nothing. I don't pass below the neck, but I am more concerned about the face.
I won't pass bodywise until I get top surgery. I am a 34G in bra size :'(. The huge hips that gave birth twice don't help... :-\
So...facewise, scale of 1-10, how passable am I?
Edit: I ask because I may not be able to ever get HRT. I have a disability that efdects my joints and bones and the increased risk of osteoporosis may bar me from taking testosterone.
@Adrian_Micheal = On a scale of 1-10, I'd go a solid 5. You seem pretty androgynous. I'm not sure why, it could be the eyes. Or just the lack of width in your jaw. Sucks about your Joint condition bro. I hope that you can get it.
I'm still pre-T and I have been experimenting with mascara for sideburns, and I would like to see what y'all have to say:
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also, I'm wondering if my smile passes. I'm a fairly open gay guy so I suppose there is some leeway, but I feel like it makes me look overly feminine.
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I love the daft punk shirt. :)
I do think the glasses look feminine though.
Quote from: LilRingo on November 25, 2012, 05:23:07 PM
@Adrian_Micheal = On a scale of 1-10, I'd go a solid 5. You seem pretty androgynous. I'm not sure why, it could be the eyes. Or just the lack of width in your jaw. Sucks about your Joint condition bro. I hope that you can get it.
Thanks for the input. I think I should share another angle, I actually have an rather square jaw from the front, but I have obnoxiously high cheek bones offsetting it from the sides.
My eyes are the bane of my existence. Large, protrusive, and uncomfortably feminine. My only saving grace? Years of poor sleeping creating deep shadows and a sunken appearance.
Quote from: Adrian_Michael on November 23, 2012, 12:41:36 AM
Jumping in here.
My profile picture is my most recent photo.
No T, no nothing. I don't pass below the neck, but I am more concerned about the face.
I won't pass bodywise until I get top surgery. I am a 34G in bra size :'(. The huge hips that gave birth twice don't help... :-\
So...facewise, scale of 1-10, how passable am I?
Edit: I ask because I may not be able to ever get HRT. I have a disability that efdects my joints and bones and the increased risk of osteoporosis may bar me from taking testosterone.
6.5. You read, in the picture, as androgynous leaning male and I'd peg you for male if I saw you sitting down (standing up might be different, but who knows).
@ Lilringo:
You pass definitely to me though I say leave off the sideburns, but I'm not a sideburns kind of guy. :p I like my guys without them, lol. Your smile passes as well and I'm jealous that you can pass so well. :3 It's awesome and I say keep doing whatever it is you're doing. :)
[Your glasses look fine to me. They just speak of a nerdy kind of guy to me. ;) ]
Here's a few extra pics, from other angles:
Same photo shoot, profile view:
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Right after I got my first "boy" haircut(and before I came out to anyone but my good friend, so the earrings were still there):
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Top picture is a definite pass to me. The second one isn't a real pass though I can "see" male if that at all makes sense. It's in the expression, particularly around your eyes. It also helps that you have a strong jaw. :) [By the way, I <3 your necklace.]
Quote from: LilRingo on November 25, 2012, 05:23:07 PM
I'm still pre-T and I have been experimenting with mascara for sideburns, and I would like to see what y'all have to say:
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also, I'm wondering if my smile passes. I'm a fairly open gay guy so I suppose there is some leeway, but I feel like it makes me look overly feminine.
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Have you tried, instead of mascara, maybe an eyeliner pencil for the sideburns? It doesn't quite blend like I've seen sideburns blend.
Other than that, I'd give you about a 7, Much better than me, but the glasses and the smile in the last picture gives you away.
I'm pre everything, and I'm aware that I still look very feminine. From my avatar how much would I be able to get away with passing if I wanted to? Nobody has ever seen me like this before and I'm hoping to get a more boyish hair cut next week. (my hair is tucked in the hat on my avatar) long story short, how much do I look like a guy?
Joey :)
Quote from: Joey4 on November 25, 2012, 06:23:54 PM
I'm pre everything, and I'm aware that I still look very feminine. From my avatar how much would I be able to get away with passing if I wanted to? Nobody has ever seen me like this before and I'm hoping to get a more boyish hair cut next week. (my hair is tucked in the hat on my avatar) long story short, how much do I look like a guy?
Joey :)
Hey Joey, good to hear from ya. You got the round baby face and non distinct jaw line so your naturally going to look younger. Your eyebrows are also fairly thin and shaped, so you might wanna try filling them in a bit to help you look more masculine until they grow out. Don't cut your hair too short because it's going to accentuate your feminine facial features. If I were you, I'd get a cut a bit shaggy, but not too long. Your young so you may get sir-ed in some situations, but on most occasions you will not pass. No worries though. You don't have any majorly defining feminine features that T won't straighten out for ya. G'luck bro.
You belong in the badass thread honestly.
Quote from: Darrin Scott on November 25, 2012, 09:41:32 PM
You belong in the badass thread honestly.
I second this assesment! Definitely get yourself over to the badass thread!
Thanks guys, didn't know there was a thread like that. I just see pictures and thought "hey I'll put mine up as well", lol. I'll look for it.
Quote from: Arawn Gabriel on November 25, 2012, 05:51:28 PM
Top picture is a definite pass to me. The second one isn't a real pass though I can "see" male if that at all makes sense. It's in the expression, particularly around your eyes. It also helps that you have a strong jaw. :) [By the way, I <3 your necklace.]
I guess the second didn't pass because the lady styled my hair all femmy like, plus the earrings and the chain on the necklace.
Speaking of, thank you. I have had it for years, and have gone through many chains. Now it is on that leather slider in the first picture. Which I fastened from a dress shoe lace.
I cannot wait to get more than just the Italian female standard peach fuzz moustache...lmao. But at least I have some upper lip hair!
Hey, If I shave it, will it come in darker? Worked on my arms ages back...lol :P
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First thing I thought? You remind me of "The Karate Kid"...the bad ass original Daniel San...not Will Smith's kid (obviously).
Quote from: Simon on November 25, 2012, 11:52:47 PM
First thing I thought? You remind me of "The Karate Kid"...the bad ass original Daniel San...not Will Smith's kid (obviously).
ROFLMAO I was just watching those movies last night!! Love them! Never even thought about it...but now I fear the 80's hair....*makes note to experiment with style*
Quote from: Adrian_Michael on November 26, 2012, 12:20:50 AM
ROFLMAO I was just watching those movies last night!! Love them! Never even thought about it...but now I fear the 80's hair....*makes note to experiment with style*
LOL, I'm a total 80's geek. I've been watching "Gremlins" tonight. Nahh, don't fear the 80's hair. As long as you're not getting the "boy George" style I'm sure it'll be all good, lol. I actually like Johnny's (the bad kid) hair in "The Karate Kid". Not exactly sure what that cut is called (no way I could pull it off) but it's a nice cut.
I actually think the hair is pretty feminine... It could just be cultural differences here in England or because the only person I've ever seen with hair styled like that was a lesbian teacher of mine.
Quote from: Alex000000 on November 26, 2012, 04:09:17 AM
I actually think the hair is pretty feminine... It could just be cultural differences here in England or because the only person I've ever seen with hair styled like that was a lesbian teacher of mine.
Nah, it ain't cultural. It is a more feminine cut. I think the issue is that it's a bit too long on top. Also, your eyebrows have a high arch. Guys brows tend to be lower. I'd try to grow them out or fill them in a bit to help pass.
Quote from: Jamison on November 26, 2012, 05:35:41 AM
Nah, it ain't cultural. It is a more feminine cut. I think the issue is that it's a bit too long on top. Also, your eyebrows have a high arch. Guys brows tend to be lower. I'd try to grow them out or fill them in a bit to help pass.
Where I live, it's not a feminine cut. The majority of people I've seen with it have been guys and the only reason the girls I know had it was because they hadn't gotten in to the beauty salon to get it whacked down. -shrug-
@ Adrian: :p My mom would say it would grow in darker, hahaha, whether or not it's true.
Quote from: Jamison on November 26, 2012, 05:35:41 AM
I'd try to grow them out or fill them in a bit to help pass.
How do you grow out your eyebrows?
Quote from: dalebert on November 26, 2012, 08:18:58 AM
How do you grow out your eyebrows?
Now I'm thinking about Chia Pets.
I'm sure many transmen have had unfortunate run in's with eyebrow tweezers pre transition. That ->-bleeped-<- takes FOREVER to grow back out, lol.
Quote from: dalebert on November 26, 2012, 08:18:58 AM
How do you grow out your eyebrows?
Haha, well this is under the impression that they may still be tweezing them. But after years of plucking, they will usually fill in a bit once you stop. But it can take a long, long time, leaving a noticeable arch for a good period still.
Quote from: Jamison on November 25, 2012, 08:19:08 PM
Hey Joey, good to hear from ya. You got the round baby face and non distinct jaw line so your naturally going to look younger. Your eyebrows are also fairly thin and shaped, so you might wanna try filling them in a bit to help you look more masculine until they grow out. Don't cut your hair too short because it's going to accentuate your feminine facial features. If I were you, I'd get a cut a bit shaggy, but not too long. Your young so you may get sir-ed in some situations, but on most occasions you will not pass. No worries though. You don't have any majorly defining feminine features that T won't straighten out for ya. G'luck bro.
Thanks buddy. I've never plucked my eyebrows but my mum used to make me feel really stupid and say they were like caterpillars so I thinned them out using fine scissors - stupid move looking back now. I don't plan on having it cut too short, maybe a bit longer than the typical 'Justin Bieber' hair before he cut his short. I had it like that before but was too afraid to keep it like that so put in a side parting. Bought some guys clothes yesterday and actually wore them like a guy today rather than looking like a tomboy. Felt really happy :D
Joey :)
Quote from: Joey4 on November 26, 2012, 11:30:18 AM
Bought some guys clothes yesterday and actually wore them like a guy today rather than looking like a tomboy. Felt really happy :D
Joey :)
How do you wear clothes like a tomboy? I'm pretty sure I don't but now I'm getting worried haha
Quote from: Alex000000 on November 26, 2012, 03:27:25 PM
How do you wear clothes like a tomboy? I'm pretty sure I don't but now I'm getting worried haha
I was told it's kind of how the pants lay on the body, across the hips instead of the waist, but I'm not sure how much weight to put on that. I get my fashion advice from an MtF, who then gets her fashion advice from me.
ROFLMAO
Quote from: Alex000000 on November 26, 2012, 03:27:25 PM
How do you wear clothes like a tomboy? I'm pretty sure I don't but now I'm getting worried haha
I dunno really haha people just always refer to me as a tomboy as I usually wear girls jeans and just chuck on a hoodie so people know I'm a girl but a tomboy girl if that makes sense? I dunno how to describe it haha Whereas today I thought I actually looked like a guy if only I could have binded. It's hard to explain I just felt like a guy today haha. Don't be worried mate I think it's just my choice of wording and how I've been described in the past. From your avatar and photos you have posted you definitely look male so you have nothing to worry about! :)
Quote from: Simon on November 26, 2012, 08:31:22 AM
Now I'm thinking about Chia Pets.
I'm sure many transmen have had unfortunate run in's with eyebrow tweezers pre transition. That ->-bleeped-<- takes FOREVER to grow back out, lol.
If they do at all. :P I haven't tweezed or waxed in two years and mine have hardly filled out and there are a couple of "bald" spots due to the fact that I ripped out the follicle while tweezing/waxing.
Quote from: Arawn Gabriel on November 26, 2012, 03:42:58 PM
If they do at all. :P I haven't tweezed or waxed in two years and mine have hardly filled out and there are a couple of "bald" spots due to the fact that I ripped out the follicle while tweezing/waxing.
My cis male and has a few days spots in his eyebrows from where he accidently got a tray of roast potatoes in boiling hot oil spilt over him as a kid! You could make up an interesting story like that if someone asked.
Joey - thanks, was just wondering if there was some subtle difference I'd missed! Other than work clothes I can't remember the last time I voluntarily wore female jeans (I have to very occasionally because it takes about a week to get my clothes washed and dried because we have no heating or tumble drier and they're always the last clothes to ever get worn).
I don't have a choice but to wear girls jeans because guys ones don't fit me right :/ I'm a bit overweight and my hips struggle to fit right in guys jeans. Sometimes girls jeans can get away with looking like men's ones
Quote from: Joey4 on November 26, 2012, 05:13:01 PM
I don't have a choice but to wear girls jeans because guys ones don't fit me right :/ I'm a bit overweight and my hips struggle to fit right in guys jeans. Sometimes girls jeans can get away with looking like men's ones
Hey man, I'm plenty curvy and I can find men's jeans that fit. I'm sure you can do. Straight leg fit is always a no-go. Loose cut work well. It's hard to get them short enough, but I've found 34 x 29/30s, or 36 x 29/30s before. You just got to look hard. Also, don't know if you have these around, but the store Anchor Blue sells it's own brand of pants that are similar to dickies, but have more a stretchy material. This works well to avoid that stiff look dickies can have that can be rather uncomfortable for the curves.
Hope that helps.
Quote from: Joey4 on November 26, 2012, 05:13:01 PM
I don't have a choice but to wear girls jeans because guys ones don't fit me right :/ I'm a bit overweight and my hips struggle to fit right in guys jeans. Sometimes girls jeans can get away with looking like men's ones
I know you're young/living at home but you can still find men's clothing that looks good on you. I'm a cheapskate and every penny I can get extra goes in my surgery fund so I rarely buy new clothes (except hats,shoes,underwear..they gotta be new). Check out your local Goodwill. A lot of different brands and styles to choose from. For example last week I bought a pair of baggy Levi cargo shorts for $3. Try to get them baggy and don't pull them up to your belly button...sag them a little around the hip area. Just stay away from things that are tight, especially in the hip/ass area.
Quote from: Alex000000 on November 26, 2012, 04:44:16 PM
My cis male and has a few days spots in his eyebrows from where he accidently got a tray of roast potatoes in boiling hot oil spilt over him as a kid! You could make up an interesting story like that if someone asked.
Ow! o.o; I'm just hoping no one will notice. XD
On the subject of pants, I found boot cut guy jeans are the ones less likely to accentuate my hips. I've got wider hips than thought (38 or 40) but I was able to find a pair of guy jeans that look all right though girl jeans are still less likely to make my hips look huge.
@ Fullthrottle:
Have you tried putting a sports bra on backwards over the other one? It can help flatten a bit more and not be uncomfortable (it was looser than a binder, though).
I can't say you pass as male, but I'd put you at somewhere in the middle or along the lines of looking androgynous. I can see a lot of potential (and I ->-bleeped-<-ing want your hair cut. :P )
I don't know what to say about hips, but I'm the same way. My hips aren't going to do anymore shrinking because of the bone. I do wear tops that go down a little past, though, along with the jeans to minimize them and it seems to work all right.
Slim cut jeans look good on me. I'm on the heavier side. I just went into the store and tried on different fits. You might want to do the same thing, Joey. There's got to be some kind of mens jeans that fit.
Quote from: Simon on November 26, 2012, 08:31:22 AM
i'm sure many transmen have had unfortunate run in's with eyebrow tweezers pre transition. That ->-bleeped-<- takes FOREVER to grow back out, lol.
i trimmed and lightly tweezed just because i didnt want them to look like a mess and they grew back fully in a monthish.
Quote from: anibioman on November 28, 2012, 12:06:41 AM
i trimmed and lightly tweezed just because i didnt want them to look like a mess and they grew back fully in a monthish.
Cleaning them up is different than making them spaghetti noodle thin with an arch.
Quote from: girl you look fierce on November 28, 2012, 01:35:10 AM
I wish I could give you guys some of my eyebrow growth :/ I swear I have to pluck them every couple days to keep them nice and pretty.
If swapping were an option, I'm pretty sure eyebrow growth wouldn't be at the top of my list :p
Quote from: Jamison on November 28, 2012, 05:12:27 AM
If swapping were an option, I'm pretty sure eyebrow growth wouldn't be at the top of my list :p
That's what I'm saying....lol. Of course, I have two caterpillars mating on my forehead, so, lol, yeah
Quote from: Adrian_Michael on November 28, 2012, 06:36:57 AM
That's what I'm saying....lol. Of course, I have two caterpillars mating on my forehead, so, lol, yeah
That made my day. xD My family doesn't have thick eyebrows, even the males, so I don't expect to gain thick ones once I start T and I'm all right with that. I'm much more worried by the big butt I have.
About the eyebrows, I had the misfortune of getting perma-makeup eyebrows done, LUCKILY they are faded where you can't even tell, but for a while I was wondering if the hair would grow properly, and it totally has. There is hope for all of you guys out there even if you tweezed. I worked at a nail salon and had my brows waxed nearly every week or so, and they grew back nice and thick. It might be genetics but I wouldn't worry too much. Now I just let 'em bush out and just clean up the edges every once in a while.
Quote from: sebastianwood on November 30, 2012, 10:05:09 AM
About the eyebrows, I had the misfortune of getting perma-makeup eyebrows done
and here I am bitching about an upper back tattoo.... :-\
I'm glad they are faded, and also glad I'm not the only one who made mildly foolish permanent body decisions. :D
Yeah trust me I've got a few girly tattoos I'm ashamed of but you know what that was the old me i just gotta deal with it. I guess that's the only thing we can do eh?
I'm just glad I didn't get those brows touched up.
I totally lucked out on the eyebrow front. I think my eyebrows are responsible for at least 75% of my passing, with my manly shoulders and hairy, muscular forearms right behind. I've never plucked them in my life, though. I usually just shave in the middle every once and awhile to keep from getting a uni-brow.
Hey Devin, long time--no see!! I was thinking about you the other day, hoping you were doing okay. Looking good, man!
I'm doing good. I moved back in with my mom, so I never ended up getting on T, but I'm ok with it for right now. I did have my name legally changed, so I'm legally Devin, which makes it easier to pass male in public. So basically I'm going back and forth-- male mode for those who don't know me like in restaurants and stuff and very-butchy-female mode for family, friends and work. It's working fine for me. I'm butchy enough that no one really treats me like a girl despite the female pronouns and I've got the freedom to dress how I'd like (except for wearing ties-- I can't do that, as much as I'd like to), so I'm good with this for now.
And since this is the "Do I Pass" thread, I'll add a few very random pictures. I'm down about 70 lbs from this time last year and lost a good 5 inches off the moobs, so I barely even have to bind anymore if I wear the right clothes and slouch. I'm not binding in any of these pictures. It's nice.
Me being a dork:
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Getting ready for karate:
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My sister brought home one of those electronic babies and I was being a good uncle:
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I posted this on Facebook as "I wanna roll with the gangstas, but oh well it's obvious I'm white and nerdy". HP fans will get it.
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You pass to me, Devin. Completely. I don't really think there's much feminine about you, so good job, man.
The hair's good on you, I think it fits you better than I would imagine short hair doing. Of course the brows work for you.
Total pass.
Definite pass, Devin!
:P I love the last picture. XD
Man, I'm almost jealous of how well you pass! Wouldn't question you for a second.
Still waiting on that haircut, but it's been put on the back burner due to hospitalizations following what should have been some routine (though invasive) procedures. Luckily I'm alright now, but I'll have to wait to schedule something in between doctors' appointments.
@Devin - I wish i was as cool as you, no lie. Also, slytherclaw ftw.
I just got my hair cut, and the guy did it shorter than i originally wanted, but whatever. I feel like it makes me look more femme in the face cus of my pre-t hair line. Aslo, i feel like when i wear glasses, it makes my face look small. tell me what Y'all think, please.
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LilRingo: i'd say pass without the glasses but with the glasses not really. sorry :/
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on December 01, 2012, 05:23:34 PM
LilRingo: i'd say pass without the glasses but with the glasses not really. sorry :/
No need to be sorry, lol. I totally agree. I see better with my contacts anyway
Hey LilRingo, Id say you pass well in those pictures with your new haircut, and yeah, better without the glasses.
I agree with the others as well, you look very male in the ones without glasses, but not quite with them. I think because they're only rimmed at the top it makes your forehead look too small so your face looks out of proportion somehow. But if you see better with contact lenses then it's a win-win situation.
my hairs been getting longer so i tried combing it back a little. what do you guys think? brutal honestly please lol
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I like it. My hair is kind-of like that. I style it like a pompadour, though. I don't think it hinders passing, though.
Your hairline is very masculine enough for that cut. Nice 'do, bro.
Yeah, you look great ^w^
thanks guys :)
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on December 03, 2012, 05:32:52 PM
my hairs been getting longer so i tried combing it back a little. what do you guys think? brutal honestly please lol
Ur a dood. Duh. :)
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im the one w the eyebrow ring
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no t- just curious tho. go ahead and be harsh!
Tflon: I think the only thing that might make me look twice are your eyebrows, they just seems really clean. I am guessing you wear something over the tank out in public, in the last picture your chest is a little noticeable near your pits. Otherwise, you look like a nice, clean shaven guy.
haha yeah, havent worn a tank out in ages. haven't grown the brows out yet. thanks!
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on December 03, 2012, 05:32:52 PM
my hairs been getting longer so i tried combing it back a little. what do you guys think? brutal honestly please lol
I really like your hair like this, Tyler.
:)
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on December 03, 2012, 05:32:52 PM
my hairs been getting longer so i tried combing it back a little. what do you guys think? brutal honestly please lol
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Ty, I'm not really feeling the hair, but you're lookin good homie. Your chin/jaw looks a little different. You look older than usual. I think you're starting to get some more obvious results. Then again, maybe it's the hair. I dunno. Try wearing it forward, I'd like to see how that looks.
hey guys, been on T almost 5 months now, latest pic of me holding my newborn neice, still pass?
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Quote from: aj7 on December 03, 2012, 06:32:08 PM
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im the one w the eyebrow ring
Hey Aj, I'd say your andro but definitely leaning on the masculine. I can see you passing, just depends on the context. It's hard to tell from face only shots, but your def on the right track.
Quote from: tflon on December 03, 2012, 08:45:58 PM
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no t- just curious tho. go ahead and be harsh!
Hey tflon, you got a nice build with broader shoulders, so your bod def passes for me. Your face does not pass though. Luckily, I think it's completely because of fat distribution on your face. Meaning, about 3 months of being on T will make this irrelevant. I'm trying to figure out if the glasses help or hurt you. I think they're wide and thick enough to present more masculine, but I'd be curious to see a pic with you without them to see if it affects anything.
Cheers.
Quote from: Justin 21 on December 04, 2012, 02:39:43 AM
hey guys, been on T almost 5 months now, latest pic of me holding my newborn neice, still pass?
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Hey Justin, kind of hard to tell from the pic, but I'm gonna say your andro leaning masculine, and pass in some situations. I'm sure after 5 months on T your voice has dropped, making you pass significantly more. I imagine you probably pass more when you don't smile as well.
Your eyebrows are a bit thin, your sideburns could be cut straight. After a few more months weight distribution in your face should get you a more masculine jawline and slimmer cheeks.
ok guys spiked vs. combed back (i was told i got a lil robert pattinson thing goin on when its spiked lol)
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That looks a lot better Ty.
the spiked or the combed?
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on December 04, 2012, 04:00:36 PM
ok guys spiked vs. combed back (i was told i got a lil robert pattinson thing goin on when its spiked lol)
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You're a good looking kid and completely look like a cis male of the same age. I've seen some of your YT videos and you've got a good head on your shoulders too (I was a complete idiot at your age, lol).
You belong in the "bad ass" thread, imo.
Oh, and I'd vote for spiked hair. It's more age appropriate.
I'd go for the spiked hair as well, I've never been a huge fan of hair pushed back, (except on one person, but that was just a brilliant quirk of his). I think for a more formal occasion having it combed back would look great, a wedding or somewhere else you'd have to wear a suit, but for just everyday I'd have it spiked. I'm insanely jealous that you still look male with it combed back though, I just look like a grumpy girl with a pony tail.
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on December 04, 2012, 04:00:36 PM
ok guys spiked vs. combed back (i was told i got a lil robert pattinson thing goin on when its spiked lol)
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I personally like it better combed back. It looks classy.
Both suit you well though.
I meant that I liked the spiked, sorry about that.
haha no problem. i think im gonna stick with spiked then comb it back when i need to dress fancy. thanks guys! ;D
Alright, I just took this pic today and I would like some advice. What should I do to pass even more? My face shape is feminine and I need a hair cut, but...I'd still like any suggestions from you guys.
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Quote from: ty.to.the.man on December 04, 2012, 04:00:36 PM
ok guys spiked vs. combed back (i was told i got a lil robert pattinson thing goin on when its spiked lol)
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I like the combed back look, very retro.
Quote from: Seb on December 04, 2012, 07:40:20 PM
Alright, I just took this pic today and I would like some advice. What should I do to pass even more? My face shape is feminine and I need a hair cut, but...I'd still like any suggestions from you guys.
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I think it's a little hard to tell at that angel, but you look fine to me; at least as much as you can without being on T.
I pass pretty well in everyday life and I'm over 9 months almost 10 months on T. I was wondering about my hair. Does it look feminine? I am trying a pompadour look, but my hair has a little ways to go.
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Sorry for the goofy face. I just was wondering how I'm looking.
I would be hard pressed to see a female with your hair. Lookin good, bro. Also, great silly face, haha.
I've been lurking for months. I figure this may be as good as an introduction...? I'm curious to see if I can pass at all under the scrutinizing eyes of the forum (and I don't mean that negatively at all!). It's always hard to tell when you've seen the same face for years, you know? I'm a terrible judge.
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And I'm Hal, by the way. : )
Quote from: Jamison on December 04, 2012, 06:41:40 AM
Hey Aj, I'd say your andro but definitely leaning on the masculine. I can see you passing, just depends on the context. It's hard to tell from face only shots, but your def on the right track.
thanx yea only pic i coul find of myself u coul try my profile pic
Quote from: democration on December 05, 2012, 01:25:04 AM
And I'm Hal, by the way. : )
From that pic I am inclined to say you could pass depending on other things like your body, dress, & mannerisms. It's not overwhelmingly obvious from your face that you're a guy but you do you have a boyish face.
Hi Hal!
From what I can see, you pass in my book. Your face definitely looks boyish, and your arms look defined. As said above, mannerisms can play a part, but that photo looks pretty solid.
Awesome. : )
I admit that I've got a pretty feminine body shape, but it's not too hard to hide with the right clothes. Obviously I can't read myself, but I don't think my mannerisms are a real issue. My voice, though, there's a problem.
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Quote from: Simon on December 05, 2012, 02:06:26 PM
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Is this a good or bad thing?
Quote from: Darrin Scott on December 05, 2012, 02:16:36 PM
Is this a good or bad thing?
It's a Dilbert thing.
I was kidding around with you...
Quote from: Simon on December 05, 2012, 02:20:13 PM
It's a Dilbert thing.
Did anyone figure out that I'm a Dilbert fan from my handle?
Quote from: Simon on December 05, 2012, 02:20:13 PM
It's a Dilbert thing.
I was kidding around with you...
Oh I wasn't offended or anything. I was just wondering how you meant it. I can see what you're talking about, though!
Ty, spiked up looks crazy AWESOME on you. You def are looking older and more mature these days, good for you bro!
thanks kyle! ;D
I would post one but I guess you can't from a mobile device?(//)
Quote from: Lstanford on December 06, 2012, 08:51:31 PM
I would post one but I guess you can't from a mobile device?
Put your picture on a photo hosting site (photobucket, etc) then copy/paste the IMG link here. Should work...
Quote from: Jayson on December 06, 2012, 06:58:37 PM
Hi, I'm new here and I just wanted to know if I pass. :-\ I got a short haircut and I'm growing out my eyebrows and stuff. Some advice would be great. Here's some pics.
Pic 1 (http://i.imgur.com/4owUI.png)
Pic 1 (http://i.imgur.com/yR2eK.png)
Excuse the pose, I was just trying out something. ;-;
I have no idea because of the pose. You do look female, but I'm not sure because of the pose (and duck face)
Quote from: Sparrowhawke on December 07, 2012, 05:44:56 AM
I have no idea because of the pose. You do look female, but I'm not sure because of the pose (and duck face)
Oh. Well thanks for answering. I'm getting a shorter haircut later today and maybe I'll post a pic of it and not do a pose.
Quote from: Jayson on December 07, 2012, 06:30:39 AM
Oh. Well thanks for answering. I'm getting a shorter haircut later today and maybe I'll post a pic of it and not do a pose.
Just don't get it too short because then you will just end up looking butch.
jayson, I would say you pass from what iI can see, but it's hard to tell with your hair held up. I'm assuming your asian/of Asian decent, and 90pc of the Asian guys oI know have hair your length
Hey guys,
For all those who want a little more constructive advice, not based just on pics- I posted a new thread for guys (or girls) to post a video. This will help us give you advice about your mannerisms and such. A picture isn't a helluva a lot to go off of.
here's the link: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,131439.msg1041089.html#msg1041089 (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,131439.msg1041089.html#msg1041089)
cheers
I'm completely new here but I wanted to know if this is the thread to post pics to if we're pre everything? I want some opinions on how I should have my hair cut and if anyone thinks I could pass in the future
Quote from: Youtellme on December 08, 2012, 02:35:04 PM
I'm completely new here but I wanted to know if this is the thread to post pics to if we're pre everything? I want some opinions on how I should have my hair cut and if anyone thinks I could pass in the future
Just post it here. Remember that you don't have to cut your hair if you don't want to ;)
Quote from: Sparrowhawke on December 08, 2012, 02:36:41 PM
Just post it here. Remember that you don't have to cut your hair if you don't want to ;)
Thanks, I really really really want to cut my hair though! I had 8 inches cut off in October and I'm ready to go really short now. I'm just clueless on what would look good on me :P
Quote from: Youtellme on December 08, 2012, 02:44:15 PM
Thanks, I really really really want to cut my hair though! I had 8 inches cut off in October and I'm ready to go really short now. I'm just clueless on what would look good on me :P
Don't go for a too short hair. Other than if you are one of the lucky people to be able to pull it off it is best to wait till after you start on T.
I hope I'm doing this right :P
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I'm super flat chested so i've got that going for me I think
you pass in the first, but not really in the 2.
Your hair doesn't look feminine at all, but if you don't like it you don't like it. I think you might be able to pull vary short hair off, but I'm not sure.
Quote from: Youtellme on December 08, 2012, 03:07:37 PM
I hope I'm doing this right :P
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I'm super flat chested so i've got that going for me I think
I really don't think you pass in either of these and unlike Sparrowhawke, I do think the hair is quite feminine.
I'd say haircut is definitely warranted.
Thanks for the input everyone. I really appreciate it. I'm very pre-everything, I don't even own a binder yet :x. But yes the first "big" step i'm taking is going to the counselor on tuesday and I plan on getting my haircut after my husband comes home from his training.
Quote from: Youtellme on December 08, 2012, 03:07:37 PM
I hope I'm doing this right :P
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I'm super flat chested so i've got that going for me I think
You've got a great jawline that will strengthen even more if/when you go on T.
As far as the hair I would say cut it. I wouldn't go too short (as in "buzz cut" short) because it looks like you have a small frame and an extremely short cut will accentuate how small your head is. Cis men generally have a larger cranium than those of us FAAB.
I agree with Simon, you've got a good jawline, and a shorter haircut would help you pass.
Quote from: JasonRX on December 08, 2012, 04:17:07 PM
I really don't think you pass in either of these and unlike Sparrowhawke, I do think the hair is quite feminine.
I'd say haircut is definitely warranted.
The hairline might make the hair look feminine, but the way the hair is cut it does not look feminine. From what I can see it is not cut in layers. If it was I would agree with you. A buzz-cut would be just as feminine in this case as this. If not more. A little longer wouldn't hurt.
Quote from: Sparrowhawke on December 08, 2012, 05:16:04 PM
The hairline might make the hair look feminine, but the way the hair is cut it does not look feminine. From what I can see it is not cut in layers. If it was I would agree with you. A buzz-cut would be just as feminine in this case as this. If not more. A little longer wouldn't hurt.
I think you have an odd perception of what society usually views as feminine, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'm allowed to disagree with you and you're allowed to disagree with me.
I think they could pass with that hair if their face passed, but right now, in my opinion, it does not. I think longer hair is going to be extremely difficult for most people to pull off, especially if they're pre-T.
Quote from: Simon on December 08, 2012, 04:26:29 PM
You've got a great jawline that will strengthen even more if/when you go on T.
As far as the hair I would say cut it. I wouldn't go too short (as in "buzz cut" short) because it looks like you have a small frame and an extremely short cut will accentuate how small your head is. Cis men generally have a larger cranium than those of us FAAB.
Thank you! I actually love my face structure. I've always thought I had a very masculine jawline, and my head is actually pretty big, maybe it's hard to tell from the pictures. I wasn't planning on going buzzcut short, i'm just wary of going for a cut and it turning into a pixie type cut which is what i'm really trying to avoid.
Quote from: Youtellme on December 08, 2012, 05:48:41 PM
i'm just wary of going for a cut and it turning into a pixie type cut which is what i'm really trying to avoid.
Find a picture of a guy online who has hair you like and take the picture with you. When you get in the chair tell them that is exactly what you want. I did that a lot in the beginning. The first few times I did get "that is a man's cut" but just reaffirm that is exactly how you want it done. Shouldn't really have any issues that way...and keep an eye on them about those infernal V cut sideburns, some will try to sneak that in, lol.
http://s1308.beta.photobucket.com/user/cs1hyfr/media/image.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0 (http://s1308.beta.photobucket.com/user/cs1hyfr/media/image.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0)
For being young, I'm not very tech savy :p
First try at pre-everything make-up. How did I do? Someone on FTM UK said I look "Beowulfy".
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Quote from: Lstanford on December 08, 2012, 06:47:28 PM
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For being young, I'm not very tech savy :p
For future reference, just copy the IMG code on the right side of the photo you want to share and paste it in a message.
Yes, you definitely pass for a young teen boy. A more mature hairstyle might add a few more years on you, imo.
Quote from: Lstanford on December 08, 2012, 06:47:28 PM
For being young, I'm not very tech savy :p
I think you're on the right lines for passing but maybe a darker hair colour? That's just my opinion mate.
Quote from: DeeperThanSwords on December 08, 2012, 06:50:56 PM
First try at pre-everything make-up. How did I do? Someone on FTM UK said I look "Beowulfy".
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I think you did very well. I'd say you pass and did a great job considering you're pre T. The only noticeably thing to me though is your chest but apart from that I think you pass.
Joey
Quote from: DeeperThanSwords on December 08, 2012, 06:50:56 PM
First try at pre-everything make-up. How did I do? Someone on FTM UK said I look "Beowulfy".
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Can we see you without the fake facial hair?
Your face reminds me of Joey Fatone for some reason and it might be the "hair".
btw I feel comfortable saying this to you since we have chatted on here a bit. Men don't toss their hair over to one side. With a good cut I think you could pass naturally but hard to tell with the fake hair.
Quote from: Simon on December 08, 2012, 06:54:11 PM
For future reference, just copy the IMG code on the right side of the photo you want to share and paste it in a message.
Yes, you definitely pass for a young teen boy. A more mature hairstyle might add a few more years on you, imo.
Like what would be a good example of one?
Quote from: Joey4 on December 08, 2012, 06:57:19 PM
I think you did very well. I'd say you pass and did a great job considering you're pre T. The only noticeably thing to me though is your chest but apart from that I think you pass.
Joey
Thanks Joey. Yeah, the chest is a pain. The binder helped, but I had taken it off before doing the make-up, so it did mess with the pics.
Quote from: Simon on December 08, 2012, 06:58:38 PM
Can we see you without the fake facial hair?
Your face reminds me of Joey Fatone for some reason and it might be the "hair".
btw I feel comfortable saying this to you since we have chatted on here a bit. Men don't toss their hair over to one side. With a good cut I think you could pass naturally but hard to tell with the fake hair.
Himself was due home, so I took everything off, but I'm planning on having another go, so I'll try it without the facial hair next time and see how that looks. I get the feeling it won't look as good, unfortunately. Maybe if I kept the jawline bit but left out the tache...
Oddly enough, I took other pictures with the hair just sitting normally, pulled back, loosely arranged to look shorter etc (as best I could do one-handed), but this was the pic that I thought looked best to me :-\.
It's not ideal, true, but I suppose now I know what else I can try. I'm rubbish at doing stuff with my hair, and I don't feel ready to chop it off yet (I need to lose a lot more weight before I'll feel comfortable with short hair. Cutting it just now would make me look weird, I'm sure of it).
Quote from: Lstanford on December 08, 2012, 07:02:25 PM
Like what would be a good example of one?
Your face kinda reminds me of Leo's, so what about something similar to this? Still has "personality" to the style but not as out there as the "->-bleeped-<- hawk" I've seen a lot of guys sporting.
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There's dark hair
Quote from: Simon on December 08, 2012, 07:12:49 PM
Your face kinda reminds me of Leo's, so what about something similar to this? Still has "personality" to the style but not as out there as the "->-bleeped-<- hawk" I've seen a lot of guys sporting.
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I could try something like that, when my hair darkens again I can grow sideburns out a little bit
Quote from: Lstanford on December 08, 2012, 07:14:31 PM
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There's dark hair
Yup, if you're going to keep that style I'd vote for the darker hair.
I'm a straight guy (just sayin') but you're a sharp looking kid for sure. (and I want to steal your UA hoodie,lol)
Quote from: Lstanford on December 08, 2012, 07:14:31 PM
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There's dark hair
Dark hair is definitely better. You definitely pass with dark hair I reckon.
Joey
Quote from: Simon on December 08, 2012, 07:19:08 PM
Yup, if you're going to keep that style I'd vote for the darker hair.
I'm a straight guy (just sayin') but you're a sharp looking kid for sure. (and I want to steal your UA hoodie,lol)
I love my hoodie lol. I wear UA everything like everyday, the boxer jocks are amazing too haha
On a side note, I wouldn't be able to grow it out like that until college.
Quote from: DeeperThanSwords on December 08, 2012, 06:50:56 PM
First try at pre-everything make-up. How did I do? Someone on FTM UK said I look "Beowulfy".
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I think you have masculine looking cheekbones; and you do look Beowulfy.
I am going to get my hair cut as soon as my husband gets served with the divorce papers, hopefully soon! I am going to donate all my hair to Locks of Love, I think it's about 23 inches long, so it should make a nice wig for someone.
I am thinking of going with the Paul Ryan look. I used to have more "punk" haircuts, but I need something professional looking, so I think his haircut would work on me since we both have widow's peaks. What do you guys think? Could I pull this off? Also, what do you think he uses in his hair? It's jst always so perfect looking.
Here's me and Paul from the front:
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Here's me and Paul from the side:
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Quote from: LearnedHand on December 08, 2012, 07:47:08 PM
I am thinking of going with the Paul Ryan look. I used to have more "punk" haircuts, but I need something professional looking, so I think his haircut would work on me since we both have widow's peaks. What do you guys think? Could I pull this off? Also, what do you think he uses in his hair? It's jst always so perfect looking.
Paul Ryan *goes into dry heaves*, lol. I'm going to be nice and not comment on him. The hair is a classic cut and very professional friendly.
I am almost certain he uses a pomade or wax. When I bother with my hair it's almost similar to his (got my "usual" cut yesterday. It's faded on the sides/back, top brushes to the front, and the front is spiked a bit) and that is what I use. Keeps everything nice and in place as long as you keep your hands off of it.
Quote from: LearnedHand on December 08, 2012, 07:47:08 PM
I am going to get my hair cut as soon as my husband gets served with the divorce papers, hopefully soon! I am going to donate all my hair to Locks of Love, I think it's about 23 inches long, so it should make a nice wig for someone.
I am thinking of going with the Paul Ryan look. I used to have more "punk" haircuts, but I need something professional looking, so I think his haircut would work on me since we both have widow's peaks. What do you guys think? Could I pull this off? Also, what do you think he uses in his hair? It's jst always so perfect looking.
Here's me and Paul from the front:
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Here's me and Paul from the side:
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I think you can totally rock that!
Quote from: Simon on December 08, 2012, 08:07:09 PM
Paul Ryan *goes into dry heaves*, lol. I'm going to be nice and not comment on him. The hair is a classic cut and very professional friendly.
I am almost certain he uses a pomade or wax. When I bother with my hair it's almost similar to his (got my "usual" cut yesterday. It's faded on the sides/back, top brushes to the front, and the front is spiked a bit) and that is what I use. Keeps everything nice and in place as long as you keep your hands off of it.
Like an Ivy League cut?
Quote from: Simon on December 08, 2012, 08:07:09 PM
Paul Ryan *goes into dry heaves*, lol. I'm going to be nice and not comment on him. The hair is a classic cut and very professional friendly.
I am almost certain he uses a pomade or wax. When I bother with my hair it's almost similar to his (got my "usual" cut yesterday. It's faded on the sides/back, top brushes to the front, and the front is spiked a bit) and that is what I use. Keeps everything nice and in place as long as you keep your hands off of it.
Lmao, yeah I am keeping my personal opinion on him to myself too. I've never used pomade or wax, only gel or mousse. I'll have to see what the hairstylist recommends for a brand when I get it done.
Quote from: Lstanford on December 08, 2012, 08:08:59 PM
Like an Ivy League cut?
Yes! I've had my hair cut this way for the better part of a decade and never knew what the hell it was called, lol. Good to know. I'm too lazy to get my web cam out but if I remember, when my gf gets home I'll use her phone to get a pic and throw it in here.
Quote from: Simon on December 08, 2012, 08:15:25 PM
Yes! I've had my hair cut this way for the better part of a decade and never knew what the hell it was called, lol. Good to know. I'm too lazy to get my web cam out but if I remember, when my gf gets home I'll use her phone to get a pic and throw it in here.
I've always loved ivy leagues and high n' tights. They look professional and feel good
Quote from: Lstanford on December 08, 2012, 08:24:32 PM
I've always loved ivy leagues and high n' tights. They look professional and feel good
I think something like that will look great on you. I think a good wax would work well, as it'll give a nice matte look.
Quote from: LearnedHand on December 08, 2012, 07:26:21 PM
I think you have masculine looking cheekbones; and you do look Beowulfy.
I was under the impression that when they said "pre-T makeup" they followed one of those tutorials on youtube that are called things like "how to look like a boy" or whatever (can't remember the names) and are basically how to apply make-up to your whole face to look more male. So, you should show us a photo of you with no makeup at all on.
Quote from: Simon on December 08, 2012, 07:12:49 PM
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I have to agree with Lstanford having a bit of DiCaprio in him.
Quote from: wheat thins are delicious on December 08, 2012, 08:48:11 PM
I was under the impression that when they said "pre-T makeup" they followed one of those tutorials on youtube that are called things like "how to look like a boy" or whatever (can't remember the names) and are basically how to apply make-up to your whole face to look more male. So, you should show us a photo of you with no makeup at all on.
Here you go:
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The only negative to pulling off the look an passing is I'm super short lol (5"7)
So I guess grow it out a little? And that's funny with the suit thing, I want to major in law, suits are naturally what I prefer.
Quote from: DeeperThanSwords on December 08, 2012, 09:26:18 PM
Here you go:
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Your eyebrows and facial structure are naturally masculine, take advantage of that!
Quote from: Lstanford on December 08, 2012, 09:28:15 PM
The only negative to pulling off the look an passing is I'm super short lol (5"7)
Super short? There are guys in this forum who don't even hit 5 feet and are 100 lb soaking wet with rocks in their pockets, lol. That is an average height really. I'm an inch taller than you and never get slack about being short.
Quote from: DeeperThanSwords on December 08, 2012, 09:26:18 PM
Here you go:
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You do have naturally masculine features that would be well accentuated with the right hair and clothing.
Quote from: Lstanford on December 08, 2012, 09:28:15 PM
The only negative to pulling off the look an passing is I'm super short lol (5"7)
So I guess grow it out a little? And that's funny with the suit thing, I want to major in law, suits are naturally what I prefer.
Super short? That's average for guys, so don't worry about it!
Quote from: Simon on December 08, 2012, 09:31:50 PM
Super short? There are guys in this forum who don't even hit 5 feet and are 100 lb soaking wet with rocks in their pockets, lol. That is an average height really. I'm an inch taller than you and never get slack about being short.
I've found myself recently worried about my figure/height and transitioning. Is there such a thing of being "too small" and having super curves once you get top surgery? I don't wanna look like a tiny little twig that's curvy. I'm a gym freak and lift and run daily, so will that help? With height in mind, of course.
Quote from: Lstanford on December 08, 2012, 09:38:02 PM
I've found myself recently worried about my figure/height and transitioning. Is there such a thing of being "too small" and having super curves once you get top surgery? I don't wanna look like a tiny little twig that's curvy. I'm a gym freak and lift and run daily, so will that help? With height in mind, of course.
You're pre T, correct? If/when you get on T it will redistribute your fat to a more masculine shape. Dysphoria is an evil thing that can distort the way you look to yourself and remember everything takes time. If you're lifting and doing cardio I doubt you'll end up with any curve issues. I'm considering doing the "man sculp" when I get my chest done with Dr. G in a few years if lifting and diet doesn't completely have the desired effect, so there is always that option too.
Quote from: Lstanford on December 08, 2012, 09:28:15 PM
The only negative to pulling off the look an passing is I'm super short lol (5"7)
So I guess grow it out a little? And that's funny with the suit thing, I want to major in law, suits are naturally what I prefer.
You're not short.
I'm like 5"2-5"4 and have seen more than a handful of guys around my height.
Sure, it's less common, but as long as you look like a guy, height isn't really going to make people see you as a girl and/or make you pass less.
Are you on T? It should help get rid of your curves after you've been on it for awhile. Check on the main FTM page, there's the topic "New Fat Question" (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,131414.0.html (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,131414.0.html)). The guy who posted the picture has been on T for awhile and he doesn't look curvy at all to me.
There's no such thing as "too small," cismales come in all sizes and shapes.
Quote from: Lstanford on December 08, 2012, 09:28:15 PM
The only negative to pulling off the look an passing is I'm super short lol (5"7)
Unless you live in an area where the average height is 6'6" and above, then 5'7" is not "super short".
Quote from: JasonRX on December 08, 2012, 09:44:53 PM
You're not short.
I'm like 5"2 and have seen more than a handful of guys around my height.
Sure, it's less common, but as long as you look like a guy, height isn't really going to make people see you as a girl and/or make you pass less.
I also have seen a good number of men my height (5'5") and shorter. I tend to pay close attention to guys' heights.
Yes I'm pre-T and wow! Whoever did his surgery did a great job! I wish p90x did that for me lol.
It's amazing what changing hormones can do to a body!
And yes, he area is rather short. Every male on my dad's side of the family is over 6"2, whereas my mom's family is rather short. So compared to where I live and my family, I'm considered short short as a male, but tall as a female.
Quote from: wheat thins are delicious on December 08, 2012, 09:50:28 PM
I also have seen a good number of men my height (5'5") and shorter. I tend to pay close attention to guys' heights.
I'm more like between 5"2' and 5"4' and yeah, it's really not that uncommon.
Technically, I'm short for a female, but I'm also obviously not one, so in the end, height doesn't really matter that much to me. It used to bother me a lot for a while, but I got over it because I knew it was something I never really could change.
People complain about being too short, but other than not being able to reach things off of the top shelf, there's not too many disadvantages to it. As far as the dating scene goes, I honestly wouldn't want to date someone who couldn't look past something so superficial anyway.
Quote from: Lstanford on December 08, 2012, 09:28:15 PM
The only negative to pulling off the look an passing is I'm super short lol (5"7)
So I guess grow it out a little? And that's funny with the suit thing, I want to major in law, suits are naturally what I prefer.
5"7 is short?! I had no idea lol, I'm 4"11..I can only imagine what I'm considered haha!
Quote from: EllieBud on December 08, 2012, 10:11:39 PM
5"7 is short?! I had no idea lol, I'm 4"11..I can only imagine what I'm considered haha!
Is the standard where you are(or family) tend to be taller?
Quote from: Lstanford on December 08, 2012, 10:19:26 PM
Is the standard where you are(or family) tend to be taller?
Um, generally speaking my family is avg height. I'm the smallest one! I have some aunts who are a couple of inches taller than me. My brother is only 16 and he's a twig that's like 5"8. And my sisters are about 5"3/5"4. And both of my parents are around 5"5. Lol that's a bit of a big description on my family's height. But I'm the smallest one in my family.
ps. I'm not trans, I'm a significant other. My boyfriend is FtM, and he's only around 5"4, he tells me every day he wishes he was taller lol. I think it's pretty cute, I don't need to break my back just for some kisses!
Quote from: EllieBud on December 08, 2012, 10:24:20 PM
Um, generally speaking my family is avg height. I'm the smallest one! I have some aunts who are a couple of inches taller than me. My brother is only 16 and he's a twig that's like 5"8. And my sisters are about 5"3/5"4. And both of my parents are around 5"5. Lol that's a bit of a big description on my family's height. But I'm the smallest one in my family.
ps. I'm not trans, I'm a significant other. My boyfriend is FtM, and he's only around 5"4, he tells me every day he wishes he was taller lol. I think it's pretty cute, I don't need to break my back just for some kisses!
Aha! No reason to break a back over kisses ever anyway:p
Finding out I'm not as short as I thought I was? Or to know that my height is average is quite comforting.
Lstanford: how old are you if you dont mind me asking? cause you could still grow a little more, im around 5'7" 5'8" but i might grow a little more since im still pretty young
Quote from: EllieBud on December 08, 2012, 10:24:20 PM
ps. I'm not trans, I'm a significant other. My boyfriend is FtM, and he's only around 5"4, he tells me every day he wishes he was taller lol. I think it's pretty cute, I don't need to break my back just for some kisses!
I need to end up dating someone who thinks like you do.
:laugh:
Quote from: Lstanford on December 08, 2012, 10:28:42 PM
Aha! No reason to break a back over kisses ever anyway:p
Finding out I'm not as short as I thought I was? Or to know that my height is average is quite comforting.
lol, well being 4"11, I break my back for pretty much everything!
And yes! Trust me you're height is definitely avg, and you shouldn't put to much stress on it. I guess it's ideal for a guy to want to be taller right? Either way, height won't mess up the cuteness factor!
I'm glad you feel more comforted though. If you ever need to reassure yourself, just remember people like me are nearly technically considered little people. (no offense to little people I hope, I LOVE my height!) :D
Quote from: EllieBud on December 08, 2012, 10:33:36 PM
lol, well being 4"11, I break my back for pretty much everything!
And yes! Trust me you're height is definitely avg, and you shouldn't put to much stress on it. I guess it's ideal for a guy to want to be taller right? Either way, height won't mess up the cuteness factor!
I'm glad you feel more comforted though. If you ever need to reassure yourself, just remember people like me are nearly technically considered little people. (no offense to little people I hope, I LOVE my height!) :D
Fun size!
Thanks, don't think it'll be an issue once things are more set in stone and I get out of the service.
Quote from: JasonRX on December 08, 2012, 10:33:20 PM
I need to end up dating someone who thinks like you do.
:laugh:
aww don't make me blush! But thank you that's sweet!
lol trust me, I'm sure there are girls out there who think the same way! :D
Quote from: Lstanford on December 08, 2012, 10:35:45 PM
Fun size!
Thanks, don't think it'll be an issue once things are more set in stone and I get out of the service.
You got that right haha!
yea, you shouldn't worry too much! Btw, how is the service working out for you? My boyfriend considered joining, not sure what happened to that notion though . Facing any challenges?
Ok, time for me to dog myself for a minute. Got my hair cut yesterday so decided to shave most of my face. I think it makes me pass FAR less than when I'm a fuzzy mongoose. I officially start T in 8 days though..sooo I can deal with it. The light is above my head in both pics making my hair look thin but it's not that bad...the hairline has moved back quite a bit though.
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Quote from: EllieBud on December 08, 2012, 10:39:42 PM
You got that right haha!
yea, you shouldn't worry too much! Btw, how is the service working out for you? My boyfriend considered joining, not sure what happened to that notion though . Facing any challenges?
I haven't left for boot camp yet, but I have signed most of my papers. Waiting on a waiver for a medic disqual. The biggest challenge I've faced so far is the thing about transsexuals not allowed in the military. Taking T is strictly forbidden by women who are active duty, and the fact that some of the jobs require security clearances poses a problem(psych reports are shown in records.)
Quote from: Simon on December 08, 2012, 10:47:17 PM
Ok, time for me to dog myself for a minute. Got my hair cut yesterday so decided to shave most of my face. I think it makes me pass FAR less than when I'm a fuzzy mongoose. I officially start T in 8 days though..sooo I can deal with it. The light is above my head in both pics making my hair look thin but it's not that bad...the hairline has moved back quite a bit though.
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I promise you pass dear. There's no doubt about that, and the haircut looks great!
Quote from: Lstanford on December 08, 2012, 10:48:44 PM
I haven't left for boot camp yet, but I have signed most of my papers. Waiting on a waiver for a medic disqual. The biggest challenge I've faced so far is the thing about transsexuals not allowed in the military. Taking T is strictly forbidden by women who are active duty, and the fact that some of the jobs require security clearances poses a problem(psych reports are shown in records.)
Damn..
My boyfriend hasn't started T yet so he was considering just starting after he served. It's a shame the military can't accept transsexuals..a true shame.
I hope everything works out for you though! It's an honor to know great people like you are serving!
Quote from: EllieBud on December 08, 2012, 10:51:14 PM
Damn..
My boyfriend hasn't started T yet so he was considering just starting after he served. It's a shame the military can't accept transsexuals..a true shame.
I hope everything works out for you though! It's an honor to know great people like you are serving!
It's complete Bolshevik if you ask me. I'm perfectly capable of doing my job whether I'm male or female, so why should it matter is what I can't grasp. We are held to the same physical standards as me (as of 2014) so who cares if I transition. And thank you! Tell him if he wants to serve, he better do it soon as they're super downsizing!
Agreed. Couldn't have said it better myself dude.
The standards are just all f*%kd up, and it's like c'mon, what century are we living in?!
I guess some things just take longer than others, wish it wasn't that way.
Thanks! I'll definitely let him know!
Quote from: EllieBud on December 08, 2012, 11:00:46 PM
Agreed. Couldn't have said it better myself dude.
The standards are just all f*%kd up, and it's like c'mon, what century are we living in?!
I guess some things just take longer than others, wish it wasn't that way.
Thanks! I'll definitely let him know!
It's sad how there are very few LGBT activists that speak to youth (Ryan sallans is the only one I can think of) when WE/our generation sets the standard.
Quote from: EllieBud on December 08, 2012, 10:49:33 PM
I promise you pass dear. There's no doubt about that, and the haircut looks great!
Thanks Ellie...dysphoria has struck me today, blah.
Quote from: Simon on December 08, 2012, 11:10:26 PM
Thanks Ellie...dysphoria has struck me today, blah.
Sorry about that :/
BUT don't let it get you too down, you look wonderful!
The mind is a powerful thing my friend! And all I see here is a handsome man!
Quote from: Lstanford on December 08, 2012, 11:08:25 PM
It's sad how there are very few LGBT activists that speak to youth (Ryan sallans is the only one I can think of) when WE/our generation sets the standard.
Not enough activists indeed. People just generally don't like to take initiative I suppose. I hope that all changes soon. The world needs to be more educated, especially on the fact that trans people can do the same jobs anyone else can.
I believe the only thing that sets people apart is attitude.
I'm almost tempted to post a picture of my leg here, but that would also be totally unneccessary.
Quote from: JasonRX on December 08, 2012, 11:21:06 PM
I'm almost tempted to post a picture of my leg here, but that would also be totally unneccessary.
lol go for it buddy!
I'll probably just post it in "You Look Badass" because I know they pass.
There's honestly no way they couldn't, because they're ridiculous.
Quote from: EllieBud on December 08, 2012, 11:29:14 PM
Sounds like you have some smoking hot legs ! ;D lol
That's a matter of a opinion, since I'm really just hairy like a beast.
Quote from: JasonRX on December 08, 2012, 11:41:29 PM
That's a matter of a opinion, since I'm really just hairy like a beast.
WELL take it from me, a lot more people are into the hairy beast look than you'd think ;)
Quote from: EllieBud on December 08, 2012, 11:43:44 PM
WELL take it from me, a lot more people are into the hairy beast look than you'd think ;)
And pictures are posted now by the way, since you told me to go ahead and go for it.
:P
But yes, I'm like a bear.
Quote from: Lstanford on December 08, 2012, 09:28:15 PM
The only negative to pulling off the look an passing is I'm super short lol (5"7)
Super short? I never get the consensus of 5'5" and taller being extremely short. I'd love to be that tall seeing as I'm short even by female standards at 5'.
Quote from: FullThrottleMalehem on December 09, 2012, 03:12:07 PM
Super short? I never get the consensus of 5'5" and taller being extremely short. I'd love to be that tall seeing as I'm short even by female standards at 5'.
Know what you mean. I'm 5'2" and it's beginning to annoy me really much when people from 5'5" to 6' saying how small they are.
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Nice, I like how your tie matches your hair (at least in that lighting or my monitor's off). Is that an overcoat or a suit jacket? If it's a jacket, you might want to get the sleeves taken in a little; a man should generally have a 1/2 inch of his shirt sleeve showing, or 1/4 inch for guys under 5'5".
Quote from: Sparrowhawke on December 09, 2012, 03:30:34 PM
Know what you mean. I'm 5'2" and it's beginning to annoy me really much when people from 5'5" to 6' saying how small they are.
This.
I'm 5'1. It'd be a blessing to be 5'7.
Quote from: Lstanford on December 09, 2012, 04:01:50 PM
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You pass as male for sure, you just look really, really young.
Sorry if I came off as a jerk:/ didn't quite realize I'm average due to the standard here.
And it's actually my female suit jacket and shirt, I stole one of my brother's ties and just was messing around.
Quote from: Lstanford on December 09, 2012, 06:49:00 PM
Sorry if I came off as a jerk:/ didn't quite realize I'm average due to the standard here.
And it's actually my female suit jacket and shirt, I stole one of my brother's ties and just was messing around.
You didn't come off as a jerk at all. Some guys are sensitive about their height.
I think I saw on a site a while ago that you can get insoles that add an extra couple inches to your height.
Quote from: DeeperThanSwords on December 10, 2012, 11:20:46 AM
I think I saw on a site a while ago that you can get insoles that add an extra couple inches to your height.
I looked at some on ebay. Theres a couple of different types but you can buy a pair from China or something like that for $10 and that includes free shipping! So if they dont work or you dont like them, $10 isnt too much to lose :P
Quote from: harlee on December 10, 2012, 04:27:40 PM
I looked at some on ebay. Theres a couple of different types but you can buy a pair from China or something like that for $10 and that includes free shipping! So if they dont work or you dont like them, $10 isnt too much to lose :P
Yeah, totally.
Quote from: DeeperThanSwords on December 10, 2012, 11:20:46 AM
I think I saw on a site a while ago that you can get insoles that add an extra couple inches to your height.
I kinda wanna be taller:p
Quote from: Lstanford on December 10, 2012, 09:04:50 PM
I kinda wanna be taller:p
I'll see if I can find the product I saw.
Les Love Boat sells these inserts as well
http://www.lesloveboat.com/shop/index.php?cPath=32&osCsid=b56b5e15c8f25d208523e80a6534c557 (http://www.lesloveboat.com/shop/index.php?cPath=32&osCsid=b56b5e15c8f25d208523e80a6534c557)
Quote from: Darrin Scott on December 10, 2012, 09:33:31 PM
Les Love Boat sells these inserts as well
http://www.lesloveboat.com/shop/index.php?cPath=32&osCsid=b56b5e15c8f25d208523e80a6534c557 (http://www.lesloveboat.com/shop/index.php?cPath=32&osCsid=b56b5e15c8f25d208523e80a6534c557)
That's them! Cheers mate!
They are called shoe lifts. Googling can find you a bunch of websites that sell them.
Yeah, height's always a bit of a pain. Still waiting to grow a bit just to hit the 5' mark; my orthopedic at some point said that my spine appears to stretch and compress randomly (making me range from something under 4'10 to 4'10 and three quarters), which just sounds plain weird. I seem to be taking after my dad, though, which gives me plenty of time to gain some height.
So anyways, new pic! Got a minor haircut out of a compromise; felt like my mother was just giving me this avian glare the whole time as if she was daring me to try cutting it as short as I wanted.
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I dunno, haven't really been in any situations where a stranger has addressed me so I haven't had any feedback on passing. Thought I'd show off the hair and the awesome sweatshirt in any case :P
Quote from: wheat thins are delicious on December 10, 2012, 09:54:17 PM
They are called shoe lifts. Googling can find you a bunch of websites that sell them.
Good stuff. Cheers!
Regarding the lifts guys, you can get a lot of cheap ones, but you get what you pay for. You'll have to get a shoe size up as well to put them in and they work best in boots or high rising shoes. Don't expect to be able to walk too long in them either, you'll kill your feet. Prolong use will also tear up the inside of your shoes.
The best thing to do is to get elevator shoes. Some styles accentuate the fact that their lifts, so beware of sites that only show angled photos of the shoes. Also, they tend to exaggerate and say "you can gain 4 inches with this shoe" when in reality, you'll be lucky to gain 3 once you put them on. The best elevator shoes to get are obviously more expensive and from Don's. These shoes won't fall apart, but they're made from leather so you have to be looking for a specific style.
cheers guys.
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Alright, so I'm posting this picture because you can't really see my facial hair here (minus the little bit on my chin). I wonder if I'd be able to "pass" without the facial hair. I also feel like my face looks much chubbier than my body.
@ Nygeel:
I think you might pass without it, but you'd look way younger [as is usually the case with men who have rounder faces and are clean-shaven].
@ Liminal:
I'd say you pass as someone who's a young teen. :3 You remind me a lot of the students in 9th and 10th grade at where I student-taught.
Arawn: Hey, I'll take young teen male over older-looking female any day. Besides, that isn't so far off from my age. Now if only I could be allowed to actually transition in full...
Nygeel: I'd say you pass, but look kind of young, especially without facial hair. Are you pre-T? It seems like you are from the pic; it should be helpful in creating more defined facial features, resulting in a less "chubby" looking face.
In any case, you look fine to me IMO. Between the hair and the glasses, you look a little bit like an older version of that kid from Meet The Robinsons :P
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on December 11, 2012, 08:17:29 PM
Nygeel: I'd say you pass, but look kind of young, especially without facial hair. Are you pre-T? It seems like you are from the pic; it should be helpful in creating more defined facial features, resulting in a less "chubby" looking face.
I've been on T for over two years.
That's interesting. Then again, my eyes are pretty much shot from attempting to look through some horrible microscope lenses for the past couple of days coupled with a distressing lack of sleep. Don't trust my opinion there XP
From what I know, nothing really finalizes on T until around 3-5 years, but even if your face doesn't change, you shouldn't have a problem passing. Just my two cents on the matter.
Plenty of girls seem to love a cute face, though :3
Edit: Yeah, moved into better lighting. Sorry about that- I'm kind of embarrassed now over that eyesight fail!
Quote from: Lstanford on December 09, 2012, 06:49:00 PM
Sorry if I came off as a jerk:/ didn't quite realize I'm average due to the standard here.
And it's actually my female suit jacket and shirt, I stole one of my brother's ties and just was messing around.
I didn't think you were a jerk. I just get bummed hearing people say they are short when they are average male height. It's just height is a sensitive issue when you're raised around the ideal that men are supposed to be on the taller side. Especially when you see even cis men getting dissed on and rejected for being short because so many women at least are convinced men should be tall.
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on December 11, 2012, 08:17:29 PM
Arawn: Hey, I'll take young teen male over older-looking female any day. Besides, that isn't so far off from my age. Now if only I could be allowed to actually transition in full...
:) And I'm right there with you, hahaha. I look like I'm about 13 when I chop my hair off and try for passing. XD But I also look like a younger version of my dad so it's all good.
Quote from: DeeperThanSwords on December 08, 2012, 06:50:56 PM
First try at pre-everything make-up. How did I do? Someone on FTM UK said I look "Beowulfy".
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Deeper thanswords,
Aethan, I definitely think you did good with the fake makeup...I can see simon is right, definitely a joey fatone...maybe mixed with fabio only since the hair is tossed :) overall you look good.
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Alright, so I'm posting this picture because you can't really see my facial hair here (minus the little bit on my chin). I wonder if I'd be able to "pass" without the facial hair. I also feel like my face looks much chubbier than my body.
Nygeel,
I think you look very cute, you have the whole cupid cherubic sweet look, and you wear it well!
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I just had to
Lstanford,
I think you totally pass, in fact you look EXACTLY like my little cousin. However, I do agree you look REALLY young. I don't know how old you are, but from that pic i'd guess 14 to 15 year old range. I personally think you look a bit older (maybe more legal :) ) with your hair a little darker blonde.
Quote from: spring0721 on December 13, 2012, 02:57:56 PM
Deeper thanswords,
Aethan, I definitely think you did good with the fake makeup...I can see simon is right, definitely a joey fatone...maybe mixed with fabio only since the hair is tossed :) overall you look good.
Thanks very much! Once I lose more weight, I'll probably get a more masculine haircut.
Quote from: spring0721 on December 13, 2012, 03:05:48 PM
Lstanford,
I think you totally pass, in fact you look EXACTLY like my little cousin. However, I do agree you look REALLY young. I don't know how old you are, but from that pic i'd guess 14 to 15 year old range. I personally think you look a bit older (maybe more legal :) ) with your hair a little darker blonde.
Yeah, you're only a year off of age, I'm only driving age haha. Luckily my hair's getting darker again, but I have yet to decide how I want to keep it.
Quote from: Lstanford on December 13, 2012, 05:30:56 PM
Yeah, you're only a year off of age, I'm only driving age haha. Luckily my hair's getting darker again, but I have yet to decide how I want to keep it.
Yeah I like the darker blonde, but both look good. You're a young little cutie pie just like my cousin! He's a junior in high school, I swear he's got all the girls knocking his door down, and I'm sure so will you! :)
This is me.Please dont mind the mirror >_< lol Any opinions would be awesome.Normaly my hair is long so this cut is new to me tho in my opinion i think it looks good.The shirt im wearing tho is alittle large for me lol
http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u629/WickedChaos69/IMG_20121219_234404_zps39ef0f53.jpg (http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u629/WickedChaos69/IMG_20121219_234404_zps39ef0f53.jpg)
im pre everything btw and sorry i havent figured out how to use images yet lol
Quote from: Chris Lane on December 20, 2012, 08:44:27 AM
This is me.Please dont mind the mirror >_< lol Any opinions would be awesome.Normaly my hair is long so this cut is new to me tho in my opinion i think it looks good.The shirt im wearing tho is alittle large for me lol
Bowl cuts have never been masculine. Now that they're also dated I'm not positive that one will help or hinder your efforts to pass.
When most guys first cut their hair/start dressing 100% male there is a lot of room for adjustment. Don't get discouraged but keep evolving your style (especially pre T) if you want to pass more.
Quote from: Simon on December 20, 2012, 12:21:54 PM
Bowl cuts have never been masculine. Now that they're also dated I'm not positive that one will help or hinder your efforts to pass.
Bowl cuts were popular with men in the 90's. I do agree that they're dated now, but at one point they were in style and a lot of guy had them.
Quote from: Darrin Scott on December 20, 2012, 12:29:04 PM
Bowl cuts were popular with men in the 90's. I do agree that they're dated now, but at one point they were in style and a lot of guy had them.
A lot of females had them in the 90's too. I rocked one during my grunge phase in middle and high school (it was to my shoulders and buzzed underneath).
Yeah this was my first go at such a cut,its outdated but not bad for a first timer.thanks for the feed back and ill seek out other means of cutting my hair or having it done to be more,up dated lol
Quote from: Chris Lane on December 20, 2012, 08:44:27 AM
This is me.Please dont mind the mirror >_< lol Any opinions would be awesome.Normaly my hair is long so this cut is new to me tho in my opinion i think it looks good.The shirt im wearing tho is alittle large for me lol
http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u629/WickedChaos69/IMG_20121219_234404_zps39ef0f53.jpg (http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u629/WickedChaos69/IMG_20121219_234404_zps39ef0f53.jpg)
im pre everything btw and sorry i havent figured out how to use images yet lol
You've got the perfect facial structure IMO, but as mentioned, bowl cut is a little dated. I would try like Tom cruise length and if you want shorter, try an Ivy League. Can't go wrong with em!
It's a bit dated yeah, but you pass 100% to me. Maybe it's an american thing, or just because I have no real interest in anything post 1960s, but I've never seen a woman with hair like that.
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I thought I'd give making facial hair shadows a go, and I read up about how guys wear hats (i still have girly hair) so just experimented and wondered if I could pass one day? I'm pre everything.
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Also, here is a picture of my chest after DIY binding (I used a pair of tights and swimming costume) does my chest pass? Any feedback would be great as I've come out to my parents so can start to try and pass now. Thanks in advance.
Joey
Thanks guys for the opinions.awesome comments on the structure and passing *even if the hair is out dated* haha but ill give a look into those hair cuts and catch myself up but its good im on the right track :D
Pre-everything. This is one of my favorite outfits since my chest is covered up quite well. I don't have a real binder, so I use a sports bra + spandex biking shorts that I cut the crotch out of for a neck hole. I'm not sure how effective the shorts are at compressing, but they definitely smooth out the lines from the sports bra if I'm wearing it with just a t-shirt. My hair is in a weird in-between stage, and I'm not sure if I want to let it grow shaggy or if I want to shave the sides & back again. Lately I've been wearing lots of hats!
Do I seem like I could pass if I started hormones? Also, how old do you think I look? I took a plane home from school last week and was in an exit aisle (minimum age requirement was 15...) and the flight attendant asked if we all understood, and we said yes, but she kept stalling and looking at me, and eventually she said "Excuse me, I'm going to have to ask you what your age is?"...do I really look that young???
Oh, and sorry for the bathroom mess. I am visiting home and my sister & her friend who lives here make quite the mess.
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Here's a link to a bigger version of this:
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Chris I think your facial structure is absolutely male, and the hair is ok for the start :)
sleepwalker you pass to me, your chest also. and yeah you look about 15-16.
Joey you pass to me in the first pic, the hat makes you look more male, your chest....idk. not 100%
I got my hair cut today and I'm not sure I pass with it
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So what do you think? I don't see any changes being 2 months on T ??? In real life people who don't know me calling me young man but I don't see that :-X
Quote from: Jared on December 21, 2012, 06:41:37 AM
I got my hair cut today and I'm not sure I pass with it
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So what do you think? I don't see any changes being 2 months on T ??? In real life people who don't know me calling me young man but I don't see that :-X
I think you're still in the early stages of T so you should give it time. If I seen you in public I would think you're male but around 12. Your face is so suitable for T though.
thank you and from my opinion you would pass jared but yeah very young.Walker to me your face is very soft but that could be seen as young also so that could be a 50/50,besides that yeah i say you pass.Joey i say you pass well in the face,the chest for me can be a give away but many things can be said for it so with a good come back,i say you would slip passed with it.could be just the shirt,i find baggier shirts work for me,it doesn't hug that area so tightly
Joey - I can definitely see you passing sometime in the future if you get a male haircut. If you're parents are supportive maybe you could think about getting a proper binder, because unfortunate I think homemade binders are only effective for quite small chested guys. You can always try layering, especially as it's winter, that helps a lot.
sleepwalker - You pass to me, but it's very hard to make a proper judgement on your age. Your face looks like a 14 year old, yet you're dressing more like your age, which kind of throws me a bit. Nothing much you can do there though other than T, I know a guy who I presume is cis, and he looks 5 years younger than he really is.
Jared - You pass completely, but young. Like, really young. I'd guess you looked about 13, but you're already on T, so that should hopefully sort itself out soon.
I don't feel like I'm looking as male as I used to, even though I still pass somehow. I think it's the haircut, which I really need to remedy because I recently got it cut and the haircutter was awful, she just ignored me saying that I wanted it really short over and over again. It doesn't help that everyone knows me in my area so I everything gets booked under my female name. After Christmas I might try and find a walk in place a bit further afield because the best haircut I ever got was in one of those cheap walk in places (was also terrifying because I heard her call over to another member of staff when I walked in to check if they did boys' cuts and I've got an irrational fear of being halfway through a haircut and them realising that I've got a female body and kicking me out with half a haircut.)
How I used to look two summers ago:
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Me now:
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And also, do you reckon I could pull off the same haircut as my friend? I'm worried it's going to show off too much of my female skull shape.
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Alex, Not sure your real age but I think you completely pass for a 14 or 15 year old guy. Yeah, I think you could pull off the same cut your friend has.
Thanks all for your input.I'm so glad I could get away with passing, I think I really need to get a binder. I was going to order one today but thought it might be too soon for my parents.
Sleepwalker, I think you pass and look about 17, how old are you?
Jared, I also think you pass but you look very young, nothing that T won't sort out for you though I'm sure!
Alex, I think you still pass, you look a lot more mature than you used to and I definitely see no reason for you not to pass. I also think you can pull off that hair cut but if you don't like it you can always flatten it down again.
All of you guys are looking great!
Joey
I posted my pic a few days ago... But I finally got my haircut and wanted to see what everyone thinks!
Before:
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After:
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Quote from: Youtellme on December 21, 2012, 10:11:44 PM
I posted my pic a few days ago... But I finally got my haircut and wanted to see what everyone thinks!
Before:
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After:
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You totally pass. Your hair is still quite long but it's got that punk look to it almost
Quote from: Lstanford on December 21, 2012, 11:33:09 PM
You totally pass. Your hair is still quite long but it's got that punk look to it almost
Thanks :D I'm pre-t so I really wanted to see what I could get away with length wise. I think i'm gonna go shorter next time around.
People think I'm a kid all the time even before I cut my hair. At least now, they usually think I'm some random little boy running loose. Hahaha.
Normally, I buzz it once a week with a cordless beard trimmer using a #1 guard all over or from 0-1 on top if I'm not feeling as lazy. Having virtually no hair not only translates to zero maintenance, but also makes it less likely for someone to take the time to guess.
(I can't upload photos yet so I'll return when I can.)
Alex I think your hair looks great as is. Also, 100% pass bro, you look great. And I feel weird saying this A because I'm straight and B because I don't want to sound offensive but you've gotten a lot more attractive. Like you've grown into a new style and your features have matured. You look like you went from a 12/13 year old boy to this 16/17 year old good looking teenager (and seriously your hair is great. it suits you really well). With T I think you'll especially look like a boss bro.
Joey Congrats on coming out to your parents, I hope they're supportive. :) You'll look more masculine once you get a haircut. Your chest now doesn't look bad, but a better binder will probably help a lot.
Alex You still look masculine to me, although your prior haircut seemed to suit you a little better. It's easier to pass when you're younger though. I think you could pull off that haircut, since it's not cut too closely on the sides, and the longer hair on top will help make your skull look bigger.
Youtellme You look really good, your haircut complements you well. You have strong facial features which I think helps you a lot.
Thanks everyone for the opinions. Yeah I hope I'm gonna grow out that very young look :)
Alex, I think your hair suits you well right now, but you can have the other too.
Youtellme, you look like a completely different person ;) congrats for the new haircut!
Thanks guys I'm really happy with it. I can't wait to go a bit shorter next time
Thanks guys, I just hate my hair with a passion because it's too thick to do do almost anything with. No matter what I do, within half an hour it just ends up looking like a badly cut fluffy mop again unless it's really short, which is why I want to try out something like what my friend has at the minute. Unfortunately I still look like a 12 year old in real life for some reason, probably because I'm 5'1" and seriously short even by female standards in my area. My mum mentioned getting it cut again after Christmas because I'm always bugging her to try and do it for me, or to let me cut it, but she refuses because she knows she'll mess it up.
Quote from: Alex000000 on December 23, 2012, 01:43:43 PM
Thanks guys, I just hate my hair with a passion because it's too thick to do do almost anything with.
I think there's some way for barbers to thin the hair that's really thick. How To Use Hair Thinning Scissors (Male Grooming) (http://www.videojug.com/film/how-to-use-hair-thinning-scissors)
Quote from: Alex000000 on December 23, 2012, 01:43:43 PM
Thanks guys, I just hate my hair with a passion because it's too thick to do do almost anything with. No matter what I do, within half an hour it just ends up looking like a badly cut fluffy mop again unless it's really short, which is why I want to try out something like what my friend has at the minute. Unfortunately I still look like a 12 year old in real life for some reason, probably because I'm 5'1" and seriously short even by female standards in my area. My mum mentioned getting it cut again after Christmas because I'm always bugging her to try and do it for me, or to let me cut it, but she refuses because she knows she'll mess it up.
doesn't look like a badly cut fluffy mop to me bro. i think it looks cool.
Have to say, I'm rather jealous of you guys for passing so well! (In a good way XD)
But seriously, the haircuts look awesome. Congrats on coming out to your folks, Joey- hopefully you'll have plenty of support irl in addition to the forum. Best of luck, man!
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on December 23, 2012, 04:13:02 PM
Congrats on coming out to your folks, Joey- hopefully you'll have plenty of support irl in addition to the forum. Best of luck, man!
Thank you. Can't wait until after Christmas when the ball starts rolling. Thanks for the support.
Joey
Quote from: KyleXX on December 23, 2012, 03:57:41 PM
doesn't look like a badly cut fluffy mop to me bro. i think it looks cool.
That's probably because I played around with it right before taking the photo. The only 'natural' photo of me that I can think of right now is a stupid one my mate made me have with him.
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O hai, this is me today. I just wanted to know if there's something I could do in your opinion to make me pass more as a boy? (Or of course if I do already look passable, then thanks :D )
Thanks, looking more like a boy is really important to me even if I'm not totally in the FtM zone ^^
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Quote from: Alex000000 on December 23, 2012, 04:39:20 PM
That's probably because I played around with it right before taking the photo. The only 'natural' photo of me that I can think of right now is a stupid one my mate made me have with him.
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I have super thick hair too and the guy that cut my hair gave me some awesome styling creme. Its paul mitchell tea tree styling creme. Its worth a shot to try and see if it'll help get your hair to cooperate
Quote from: Youtellme on December 23, 2012, 05:53:41 PM
I have super thick hair too and the guy that cut my hair gave me some awesome styling creme. Its paul mitchell tea tree styling creme. Its worth a shot to try and see if it'll help get your hair to cooperate
Is it this stuff? http://www.amazon.com/Paul-Mitchell-Shaping-Cream-Unisex/dp/B000UPO54M (http://www.amazon.com/Paul-Mitchell-Shaping-Cream-Unisex/dp/B000UPO54M) I might try some out.
Quote from: Alex000000 on December 23, 2012, 06:18:45 PM
Is it this stuff? http://www.amazon.com/Paul-Mitchell-Shaping-Cream-Unisex/dp/B000UPO54M (http://www.amazon.com/Paul-Mitchell-Shaping-Cream-Unisex/dp/B000UPO54M) I might try some out.
Yep that's the stuff!
Quote from: Youtellme on December 23, 2012, 05:53:41 PM
I have super thick hair too and the guy that cut my hair gave me some awesome styling creme. Its paul mitchell tea tree styling creme. Its worth a shot to try and see if it'll help get your hair to cooperate
My stylist gave me this aquage I think you spell it and its amazing. It doesn't make your hair crunchy like gel but it has phenominal hold. Little pricey at $10 a month supply, but it's well worth it.
Quote from: Phoeniks on December 23, 2012, 05:52:30 PM
O hai, this is me today. I just wanted to know if there's something I could do in your opinion to make me pass more as a boy? (Or of course if I do already look passable, then thanks :D )
Thanks, looking more like a boy is really important to me even if I'm not totally in the FtM zone ^^
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Wow, you look exactly like a cis guy I know at school. I'd definitely say pass on this one.
Quote from: Lstanford on December 23, 2012, 07:44:51 PM
My stylist gave me this aquage I think you spell it and its amazing. It doesn't make your hair crunchy like gel but it has phenominal hold. Little pricey at $10 a month supply, but it's well worth it.
The stuff I use is the same way. You can't tell I have any product in at all. I love it
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Pass with it shorter?
I give you a 100% pass.your face and head is very passable to me.everyone else that posted,looking good and i give you a passable as well :D
Joey, maybe more layering? Instead of a pull over sweatshirt, get a zippered one (thrift store!). Then you have a t-shirt and sweat shirt. I am the prince of layers. I wear button down shirts which actually might help, but might look a bit older for you. I put on a muscle shirt, then a tshirt, and then a button down shirt.
I think you have the misfortune of a bigger chest. Yikes must be bad.
---Jay
Quote from: aleon515 on December 24, 2012, 04:13:50 PM
Joey, maybe more layering? Instead of a pull over sweatshirt, get a zippered one (thrift store!). Then you have a t-shirt and sweat shirt. I am the prince of layers. I wear button down shirts which actually might help, but might look a bit older for you. I put on a muscle shirt, then a tshirt, and then a button down shirt.
I think you have the misfortune of a bigger chest. Yikes must be bad.
I've bought a few button up shirts lately and wear them undone with a baggy t shirt which I think hides my chest a bit. I'm not too keen on zip up hoodies as they seem to always be too short (I'm quite tall which works to my advantage)and the zip seems to emphasize my chest more. Yeah I'm a c/d cup and not the skinniest of guys. I hate it. Feeling really tempted to buy a proper binder but considering I'm not out to everyone it seems a bit pointless as I'll only be wearing it whilst I'm alone. Cheers for the suggestions though.
Joey
lstanford: i'd say you pass less with it shorter and blond. i think you pass the best when its a little longer and darkish brown. just my two cents :)
i just got some new pants and was wondering if this is a good style/fit for me?
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lstanford- i agree that you still pass, but i think you pass as older with the longer darker hair.
ty- those pants look good
ty - I agree, the pants look good on you... sometimes slimmer pants can bring out curves but those have just the right looseness to give the straight up and down look
lstanford - you're borderline passing to me in the short hair pic... if you have a higher voice i probably wouldn't read you as male (just wanted to be honest)
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on December 24, 2012, 08:18:59 PM
i just got some new pants and was wondering if this is a good style/fit for me?
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Pants look good!
Ty, you are rocking those pants! Can you tell us what make and model? Thanks!
Quote from: Phoeniks on December 23, 2012, 05:52:30 PM
O hai, this is me today. I just wanted to know if there's something I could do in your opinion to make me pass more as a boy? (Or of course if I do already look passable, then thanks :D )
Thanks, looking more like a boy is really important to me even if I'm not totally in the FtM zone ^^
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You are! (and I'd kill to have that hair)
*falls in love* :)
You guys look good. Just a quick question. Are some of you plucking your eyebrows? I would say its a bit of a no no for passing. I had a guy friend who just had thin eyebrows naturally, so I know it's possible, but if youre plucking or waxing them.... I would say its not going to help you pass.
Quote from: soulfairer on December 26, 2012, 10:18:54 AM
You are! (and I'd kill to have that hair)
*falls in love* :)
Yay, thank you so much *blush*
I like you too ^^I'd be quite willing to trade the hair color for blonde or turquoise atm but the curls I've learned to like ;)
Quote from: chuck on December 26, 2012, 10:53:06 AM
You guys look good. Just a quick question. Are some of you plucking your eyebrows?
I don't pluck mine (well maybe the hairs that are really far away from the brows). Mine are just very blonde and thin, comes with being totally blonde originally. Maybe T will help when I get that far.
Ok. My glasses keep getting knocked off during martial arts classes as well slipping off constantly, so I'm getting contacts. I think I look a lot better with glasses, but I really do need the contacts for martial arts. Opinions?
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I need a haircut...
The glasses do suit you, but you also look fine without, and safety at your classes is important. :)
Devin, I think you pass better with glasses. Then again it might be your hair...not sure. However, safety is far more important than what anyone thinks.
Devin, I think you look fine with or without the glasses, but I agree with Simon...a bit shorter hair :)
Quote from: Lstanford on December 24, 2012, 01:53:14 PM
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Pass with it shorter?
Lstanford, love the new shorter hair cut...and the color looks like it's back to your original. Very cute! Good cut for you
I've been on T for about 2 and a half years now. I still don't pass to myself in pictures. I suppose it might help if I had a beard and didn't wear a Rainbow Dash hoodie. However, I like being clean shaven and Rainbow Dash is best pony, well second to Luna. Still I have no problem passing on the street.
What's your opinion? Also how old do you think I look? I did gain some weight recently with moving and getting settled in a new place. Getting back in shape is priority number one for the New Year.
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Quote from: Phoeniks on December 26, 2012, 11:26:59 AM
Yay, thank you so much *blush* I like you too ^^
I'd be quite willing to trade the hair color for blonde or turquoise atm but the curls I've learned to like ;)
I don't pluck mine (well maybe the hairs that are really far away from the brows). Mine are just very blonde and thin, comes with being totally blonde originally. Maybe T will help when I get that far.
Japanese black hair here. No go :(
:P
(want to colour them blue, though) :)
Quote from: Squirrel698 on December 26, 2012, 09:31:03 PM
I've been on T for about 2 and a half years now. I still don't pass to myself in pictures. I suppose it might help if I had a beard and didn't wear a Rainbow Dash hoodie. However, I like being clean shaven and Rainbow Dash is best pony, well second to Luna. Still I have no problem passing on the street.
What's your opinion? Also how old do you think I look? I did gain some weight recently with moving and getting settled in a new place. Getting back in shape is priority number one for the New Year.
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But you do :)
In fact, the only part that I could point out are your hands, which are very neat (keep them so, keep going)! But in some sense I could see female hands, probably the colour or perceived length of your nails (but many men feature that too).
And yes, you do pass!
Ty- Dude, your pants are awesome!
Devin- Definite pass, and even though the glasses help a lot (you look like a cis male friend of mine with them on), like others said before, safety always comes first. I think you still look fine with the contacts.
Squirrel- I'm horrible with telling ages, so no answer from me on that one. I'd say pass, and everyone knows Luna is best pony.
That hoodie is pretty badass though. *brohoof?*
Quote from: Squirrel698 on December 26, 2012, 09:31:03 PM
I've been on T for about 2 and a half years now. I still don't pass to myself in pictures. I suppose it might help if I had a beard and didn't wear a Rainbow Dash hoodie. However, I like being clean shaven and Rainbow Dash is best pony, well second to Luna. Still I have no problem passing on the street.
What's your opinion? Also how old do you think I look? I did gain some weight recently with moving and getting settled in a new place. Getting back in shape is priority number one for the New Year.
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I think you pass just fine!:)
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I think you pass completely, except for the first photo.
When you grimace, I think it may highlight the few feminine features to be found on your face.
squirrel in those photos, pass about 24 to me.
Squirrel, I think you pass perfectly in the bottom two photos. I'd say you're probably in your late 20's to early 30's.
Thank you for the feedback.
@Simon - 2 out of 3 isn't bad. I don't smile that much in day to day life so it all goes well. I am 33 so right on spot, I suppose.
@Michael - Thank you! Now I like 24 a lot better. It's all in perspective I suppose
@Jason - Those few lingering bits of femininity. Ah, not much I can do about those. Unless I learn to smile differently ...
@Lstanford - Thank you kind sir.
@Liminal Stranger - Brohoof (\ - The hoodie was a gift to myself, only $15 at hot topic, ha
@soulfairer - Thanks. I should cut my nails more but I'm lazy. My hands have always been a bane for me, as my wrists are very small. Getting some veins in my hands helped a bit but they still are what people seem to question the most.
Quote from: Squirrel698 on December 27, 2012, 07:52:45 AM
Thank you for the feedback.
@Simon - 2 out of 3 isn't bad. I don't smile that much in day to day life so it all goes well. I am 33 so right on spot, I suppose.
@Michael - Thank you! Now I like 24 a lot better. It's all in perspective I suppose
@Jason - Those few lingering bits of femininity. Ah, not much I can do about those. Unless I learn to smile differently ...
@Lstanford - Thank you kind sir.
@Liminal Stranger - Brohoof (\ - The hoodie was a gift to myself, only $15 at hot topic, ha
@soulfairer - Thanks. I should cut my nails more but I'm lazy. My hands have always been a bane for me, as my wrists are very small. Getting some veins in my hands helped a bit but they still are what people seem to question the most.
Hi, squirrel, I know a lot of people with small wrists. I think the nails physically would make a bigger difference, and the veins also help in your case. And don't worry, you are doing very well! You already pass, I think you are at a point that physical changes will matter less than before.
I am going the opposite way, but when I need to be in male mode, I only think about my attitude. Many people have seen me changing, and instead they think I'm just "younger" (well, I am, HRT & being comfortable with myself does wonders).
Thought many people had me as a gay man - they just don't reach the fact I am changing -, but my attitude kept people from thinking even that! So I think it is way more important than nails, hoodies or whatever else. (but I know it's one of the most difficult things to change)
Hey guys, its been a few months since I got n here... I started t in the meantime. :) ive been on t for 2 months now. I look alot different. Luckily the t is working well with me. I pass 100% of the time. My voice is super deep. ;) got a little baby stache. Haha. My body has changed alot. Muscles everywhere, hair everywhere. Im stoked. Never been happier with myself. Anyways, enough rambling. Heres a new pic of me on christmas.
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Quote from: Wil Najera on December 27, 2012, 01:20:13 PM
Hey guys, its been a few months since I got n here... I started t in the meantime. :) ive been on t for 2 months now. I look alot different. Luckily the t is working well with me. I pass 100% of the time. My voice is super deep. ;) got a little baby stache. Haha. My body has changed alot. Muscles everywhere, hair everywhere. Im stoked. Never been happier with myself. Anyways, enough rambling. Heres a new pic of me on christmas.
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Dude, you look awesome! Glad to hear that T is working so well for you!
Quote from: Squirrel698 on December 26, 2012, 09:31:03 PM
I've been on T for about 2 and a half years now. I still don't pass to myself in pictures. I suppose it might help if I had a beard and didn't wear a Rainbow Dash hoodie. However, I like being clean shaven and Rainbow Dash is best pony, well second to Luna. Still I have no problem passing on the street.
What's your opinion? Also how old do you think I look? I did gain some weight recently with moving and getting settled in a new place. Getting back in shape is priority number one for the New Year.
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Honestly, I'd say you look androgynous in the pics. I don't think I'd know how to take you and would probably rely on other clues such as voice. Pics only tell part of the story. That being said, you pass perfectly in your avatar. Must be the stubble?
I think being taken as androgynous makes you look more your age. Otherwise, I might have guessed a lot younger. Also, it's pretty hard to judge visual age when you already know how old a person is. :P
And what weight gain? I don't see an inch on that figure. :laugh:
btw who in the heck is Luna and what is she the best at?
@Fat Admin - It seems you see me as I do. Yeah the stubble helps and I do grow some in after a day. I had just shaved before those pictures were taken. In day to day life people don't even stop to question any more. I believe I am male and I believe I deserve the respect of a person who has made up his mind. No one is greater than me and I am not greater than anyone else. Believe me, it took me a very long time to develop that attitude. It went against everything I was taught growing up. Mainly that the bigger people know better than me and I should just be quiet and let them make my choices for me. As a child that went for all adults. As I grew older that turned those who are perceived better by the society, namely men. In the last few years I have transformed myself into a independent thinking adult who want to know how and why everything works, not just that it does work.
Like soulfairer said, it's more then small visual hints like nails and stubble that communicates who I am to people. It took time and then I developed the attitude of looking people straight in the eye, ready to stand my ground for anything at any time. In addition I'm working hard at erasing words like 'perhaps' from my vocabulary. It's important to trust my words enough not to have offset them with a perhaps. To be definitive and sure in everything I say. I am still a nice person, and I value my own feelings above those of anyone else. It is possible to be that way without being a jerk. In addition I am working on only saying or feeling 'sorry' when I have actually have hurt someone not because I inconvenienced someone accidentally.
By the way, I do firmly believe that women are just as capable as men. However the world shows them that less is expected of them and for them in terms of brainpower. That being pretty conquers the day and accomplishing that wins them the best seat at the best table. Still I think the world is changing for better in that regard and more women are believing in themselves, not just in how they look.
Luna is a character from My Little Pony, Friendship is Magic, which is one of the best shows on television right now.
Quote from: Squirrel698 on December 28, 2012, 08:26:57 AM
@Fat Admin - It seems you see me as I do. Yeah the stubble helps and I do grow some in after a day. I had just shaved before those pictures were taken. In day to day life people don't even stop to question any more. I believe I am male and I believe I deserve the respect of a person who has made up his mind. No one is great than me and I am not greater then anyone else. Believe me, it took me a very long time to develop that attitude. It went against everything I was taught growing up. Mainly that the bigger people know better then me and I should just be quiet and let them make my choices for me. As a child that went for all adults. As I grew older that turned those who are perceived better by the society, namely men. In the last few years I have transformed myself into a independent thinking adult who want to know how and why everything works, not just that it does work.
Like soulfairer said, it's more then small visual hints like nails and stubble that communicates who I am to people. It took time and then I developed the attitude of looking people straight in the eye, ready to stand my ground for anything at any time. In addition I'm working hard at erasing words like 'perhaps' from my vocabulary. It's important to trust my words enough not to have offset them with a perhaps. To be definitive and sure in everything I say. I am still a nice person, and I value my own feelings above those of anyone else. It is possible to be that way without being a jerk. In addition I am working on only saying or feeling 'sorry' when I have actually have hurt someone not because I inconvenienced someone accidentally.
By the way, I do firmly believe that women are just as capable as men. However the world shows them that less is expected of them and for them in terms of brainpower. That being pretty conquers the day and accomplishing that wins them the best seat at the best table. Still I think the world is changing for better in that regard and more women are believing in themselves, not just in how they look.
Luna is a character from My Little Pony, Friendship is Magic, which is one of the best shows on television right now.
But even those small visual hints may be countered. As I said, few people even thought of me being gay! I use a lot of 'perhaps', but it's the way 'perhaps' is used that matters. The 'trusted perhaps' is even better! We shouldn't 'limit' our vocabulary, I think. The way we use it, though, is the key. And without being a jerk :)
Nowadays it's been said that I'm almost 'female', but every time I need to counter that, I just wear my invisible suit. And when I don't need it, I wear my invisible skinny jeans, but hey, I actually use them a lot! (no, no skirts or dresses)
Of course it's the whole package (pun). Everything together makes up the way a person is perceived. Overall I believe it is most important to know who you are and show that to the world without flinching.
Quote from: Squirrel698 on December 28, 2012, 11:43:47 AM
Of course it's the whole package (pun). Everything together makes up the way a person is perceived. Overall I believe it is most important to know who you are and show that to the world without flinching.
If someone questions your hands, answer "oh, do you like them? these do WONDERS!". hahahahahahahahahaha!
I like to present male, but as a female. The whole opposite. I didn't post a photo here because I'm not FtM. Should I?
hey guys so im thinking about growing my hair out and getting it cut like this
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heres me: (sorry its kinda a bad pic)
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Ty, if you want to have your hair cut that way then do it. It is a very "mature" (older man) hairstyle but the great thing about hair is if you don't like it you can always change it.
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on December 29, 2012, 02:08:50 PM
hey guys so im thinking about growing my hair out and getting it cut like this
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heres me: (sorry its kinda a bad pic)
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Ty, I agree with simon....I'm all for changing it up, but that is definitely a cut more for older guys. I think the cut you have now looks great and is very age appropriate. But who knows you could get the christian bale cut and just love it! Let us know how it goes!
Quote from: Squirrel698 on December 26, 2012, 09:31:03 PM
I've been on T for about 2 and a half years now. I still don't pass to myself in pictures. I suppose it might help if I had a beard and didn't wear a Rainbow Dash hoodie. However, I like being clean shaven and Rainbow Dash is best pony, well second to Luna. Still I have no problem passing on the street.
What's your opinion? Also how old do you think I look? I did gain some weight recently with moving and getting settled in a new place. Getting back in shape is priority number one for the New Year.
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I see all man here :).
simon: its more that i want a cut that i dont have to style as much, something i can just comb through with my hands and it'll look ok. not sure if the christian bale cut would work that way but it seems like it lol
Ty, I think that will work well for you, I had mine a little bit similar to that last year, and it did take a little styling, but not much. It didn't look hideous without it either though.
I got my hair cut yesterday, and finally got it cut really short again. My nan made sure that she knew it was her 'granddaughter', but my mum offered to explain how I wanted it cut -- I think this might be her way of accepting me at last because she kept suggesting I go to a barbers (or maybe she just wants me to stop moaning about how awful the hairdresser near me is) -- and the hairdresser just said "oh so a standard men's short back and side then?", to which we said yes. She did point out that she was going to leave the bits in front of my ears tapered, but I just took a razor to that when I got home, and charged me £8.50 instead of £7.50 for a men's cut, but it's a bargain anyway!
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I appologise for the instagram, but it's the only photo I have atm. I'm not sure whether it's too revealing of my skull shape, and I forgot my scar on the back of my head makes me look like I'm going bald (it's been pointed out 4 times already) but never mind, it feels so good to have no hair down the sides or my neck anymore!
Alex, I think it looks great on you (and yes I think you pass).
So I got a haircut a while ago, and some clothes for Christmas- and today I found something very helpful for flattening chesticles that was laying around in a drawer no one ever goes in- it's probably been there for years. (Of course, all my winter stuff is in there too, which is annoying because I literally have to climb on the dresser to get to that drawer. Today I'm thankful it's in my room, where I can pull off this epically lame stunt behind a closed door :P)
And here's a picture to show off my sweatshirt and awesome flannel sheets. First time I'm not mortified of anyone seeing my room- it actually looks masculine now!
Edit: Pictures removed! I'd rather not have any hanging around right now.
Sorry for the bad lighting. Any advice?
Alex- Dude, that haircut looks awesome! I wish my mom would let me actually cut it short. Congrats on completely rockin' the new cut. 300% pass to me.
Edit: Added the second pic just to give a different angle and to show the effect with something a little less baggy than the sweatshirt.
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on December 29, 2012, 09:13:43 PM
And here's a picture to show off my sweatshirt and awesome flannel sheets. First time I'm not mortified of anyone seeing my room- it actually looks masculine now!
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Sorry for the bad lighting. Any advice?
Alex- Dude, that haircut looks awesome! I wish my mom would let me actually cut it short. Congrats on completely rockin' the new cut. 300% pass to me.
Edit: Added the second pic just to give a different angle and to show the effect with something a little less baggy than the sweatshirt.
I think you're adorkable :) (diggin' the Bazinga hoodie). I know it's stressful for you not to be allowed to cut your hair short. Fought with my parents until I was 15 about my own. I will say I think you're androgynous. With a binder on I would more than likely think you were a little skater boy if I seen you in public.
Quote from: Simon on December 29, 2012, 10:03:01 PM
I think you're adorkable :) (diggin' the Bazinga hoodie). I know it's stressful for you not to be allowed to cut your hair short. Fought with my parents until I was 15 about my own. I will say I think you're androgynous. With a binder on I would more than likely think you were a little skater boy if I seen you in public.
Haha thanks. Love the hoodie too. First time I've liked a Christmas present from my family out in Nowhereland.
I had a nice moment recently confusing this poor girl because apparently my school thinks slapping a paper sign that says girls' bathroom makes it obvious that an androgynous kid standing in a bathroom with urinals is actually for girls. The guys even still use it when no one else is there (though I suppose that's rather risky- can't imagine what an unsuspecting girl would do if she walked in on a guy using a urinal). Next time someone asks me if that's the girls' bathroom, I'll just tell them no :3
It's funny because usually the moobs hide nicely, but they decide to advertise themselves when I'd like them not to.
Oh well, I guess that's how life works.
Btw- used to skateboard back when I was younger, joined a club in my school but then it disbanded. I have my dad's old sidewalk surfer, which I cleaned the rust off of and annoyed my mom to death by riding back and forth in the house on until she went out and got me something I could actually take outside without worrying about it getting stolen. Come to think of it, I should probably start that up again when it's not so horrid out.
I swear, someday I will get a binder, and that will be a very happy day for me.
i dont usually smile in photos because i think it makes me look a lot younger, but anyway, how old do i look?
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Alex - Your haircut is amazing man! Couldn't believe that I was looking at the same person. I have no doubt in my mind about you passing, you pass 100%.
Liminal Stranger - Like Simon said, I think you look like a little skater boy. I think you look young, but you pass ok to me from those pictures. Maybe not 100% but in the future I think you will look great.
Michael - I'd say you look about 18-20? Looking good though :)
Joey
Michael: about 20. looking good too :P
I'd peg you around 19 or 20, Michael. And whether you look younger or not, that smile certainly suits you. I wouldn't even question you being a guy- looking pretty good there, dude!
thanks everyone:) im 21 so ill take 18 to 20. i get that a lot trying to get alcohol, people will say oh you look 18, but as my voice is dropping people are questioning me less.
Thanks everyone, it feels so good to know that I can pull it off, and it just feels brilliant to have it nice and short again. I'm feeling the need to have it cut again already, it's addictive! I'm definitely going to end up a skinhead when I'm older at this rate.
Quote from: Joey4 on December 30, 2012, 11:18:13 AM
Alex - Your haircut is amazing man! Couldn't believe that I was looking at the same person. I have no doubt in my mind about you passing, you pass 100%.
Haha yeah, I look very different when I get my hair cut properly, just so hard to find someone who will do what I want with it.
Liminal Stranger - I also agree, you just look like a very young skater kid. I also agree that it's awesome to have decent bedsheets, I finally got a blue duvet cover because I convinced my mum to give me her double duvet for the winter.
Micheal Joseph - I'd put you anywhere between 18 and 20ish, but you look a lot older than a 21 year old (I'm assuming) cis-guy that I know. Your smile doesn't make you look feminine at all, which can be a problem with some guys. The only thing that makes you look out of place is the wine glass, I was expecting to see a beer!
Haha thank you. that was on christmas and we all drink wine, the boys and the girls. most of the time though, youll see a beer in my hand
Trying to make the best of what I think was a bum haircut (she took off way more than I asked for and didn't even give me the cut I asked for). What do you guys think ... purposely messy with product (on the left) or just got out of bed natural look (on the right)?
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Quote from: insideontheoutside on December 31, 2012, 06:48:52 PM
Trying to make the best of what I think was a bum haircut (she took off way more than I asked for and didn't even give me the cut I asked for). What do you guys think ... purposely messy with product (on the left) or just got out of bed natural look (on the right)?
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Messy with product, I think. Think it suits the artist better.
Definitely messy.
Quote from: insideontheoutside on December 31, 2012, 06:48:52 PM
Trying to make the best of what I think was a bum haircut (she took off way more than I asked for and didn't even give me the cut I asked for). What do you guys think ... purposely messy with product (on the left) or just got out of bed natural look (on the right)?
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messy!
halp plz i dunt think i pass (http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x164/DancepantsEniwa/Image774_zpsc90b84ac.jpg)
Just kidding, guys.
But yep, this is my face.
How do I looK?
J
Quote from: JasonRX on December 31, 2012, 07:51:17 PM
halp plz i dunt think i pass (http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x164/DancepantsEniwa/Image774_zpsc90b84ac.jpg)
Just kidding, guys.
But yep, this is my face.
How do I looK?
Jason, great picture.....love those glasses
Quote from: JasonRX on December 31, 2012, 07:51:17 PM
halp plz i dunt think i pass (http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x164/DancepantsEniwa/Image774_zpsc90b84ac.jpg)
Just kidding, guys.
But yep, this is my face.
How do I looK?
Looking good. Well, I better say that since I have that exact same pair of specs. :P But yeah, looking a lot better than your earlier pics, acne-wise and all.
Quote from: JasonRX on December 31, 2012, 07:51:17 PM
halp plz i dunt think i pass (http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x164/DancepantsEniwa/Image774_zpsc90b84ac.jpg)
Just kidding, guys.
But yep, this is my face.
How do I looK?
I think you look (to quote tony the tiger) grrrreeeeeaaaattt!
Seriously, I think you're a handsome dood.
Quote from: Fat Admin on December 31, 2012, 08:02:29 PM
:P But yeah, looking a lot better than your earlier pics, acne-wise and all.
I agree, especially since my face has changed a lot.
I don't really get much acne anymore, other than the occasional pimple, but it usually disappears relatively quickly.
Most of what is on my cheeks are scars from how bad my acne was before, but they're slowly going away.
Accutane seriously worked wonders for me.
As far as my glasses go, I'm due for a new set of frames since November. They're probably going to look similar to one's I have now though. My ex actually picked my current glasses out for me, over two years ago.
insideontheoutside: Lovin' the messy look bro! I'm with everyone else here, it def suits you.
Jason:I saw that little note there >:-)
You look awesome, glasses look awesome. You sure you're in the right thread? Because I'm pretty sure this is the one for asking about passing and visual (sometimes aural) passing tips, not showing off your badassery :P
Quote from: Simon on December 31, 2012, 08:07:14 PM
I think you look (to quote tony the tiger) grrrreeeeeaaaattt!
Seriously, I think you're a handsome dood.
ogod ur avi terrifies me
Thanks, guys!
And Alex, your new haircut looks awesome on you!
Quote from: =celestica= on December 31, 2012, 08:29:28 PM
ogod ur avi terrifies me
Then this one should send you into convulsions. :laugh:
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Quote from: JasonRX on December 31, 2012, 07:51:17 PM
halp plz i dunt think i pass (http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x164/DancepantsEniwa/Image774_zpsc90b84ac.jpg)
Just kidding, guys.
But yep, this is my face.
How do I looK?
you look alot more like a man than the last pics i saw of u which was like 5 months ago but u look good now, before i could tell u was female but now theres no sign of female in ur face lol
Quote from: AngéliqueLaCava on December 31, 2012, 09:18:41 PM
you look alot more more like a man than than the last pics i saw of u which was like 5 months ago but u look good now, before i could tell u was female but now theres no sign of female in ur face lol
Uh thanks, I think?
I would rephrase a lot of what you just said since I would never dare consider myself a girl, but thanks.
Quote from: JasonRX on December 31, 2012, 09:20:13 PM
Uh thanks, I think?
I would rephrase a lot of what you just said since I would never dare consider myself a girl, but thanks.
i hope i didnt offend u because i was just saying that u pass 100% sorry if i offended u.
Quote from: JasonRX on December 31, 2012, 07:51:17 PM
halp plz i dunt think i pass (http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x164/DancepantsEniwa/Image774_zpsc90b84ac.jpg)
Just kidding, guys.
But yep, this is my face.
How do I looK?
Omg hi Mr Coulton (http://www.jonathancoulton.com/), I'm a big fan of your music!
Quote from: AlexD on December 31, 2012, 09:25:23 PM
Omg hi Mr Coulton (http://www.jonathancoulton.com/), I'm a big fan of your music!
That would be funny if it wasn't so sad, my friend.
:P
But we do what we must because we can.
Quote from: AlexD on December 31, 2012, 09:25:23 PM
Omg hi Mr Coulton (http://www.jonathancoulton.com/), I'm a big fan of your music!
LOL OMG
Quote from: AlexD on December 31, 2012, 09:25:23 PM
Omg hi Mr Coulton (http://www.jonathancoulton.com/), I'm a big fan of your music!
Holy cow you're right, he does look a lot like Johnathan Coulton. Nice going there!
Quote from: AngéliqueLaCava on December 31, 2012, 09:18:41 PM
you look alot more more like a man than than the last pics i saw of u which was like 5 months ago but u look good now, before i could tell u was female but now theres no sign of female in ur face lol
What is it with the terrible comments from some of the trans women?
A transman IS a man so we don't "look more like one".
There is no "telling anyone was female". We have always been men.
You'd think that someone who is also in the trans community would have a bit more tact. ::)
Jason, my cis female gf has stated that she would have never guessed you were FAAB...and she rarely says that about any transguy.
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on December 31, 2012, 09:28:06 PM
Holy cow you're right, he does look a lot like Johnathan Coulton. Nice going there!
I feel blessed.
Quote from: Simon on December 31, 2012, 09:29:16 PM
What is it with the terrible comments from some of the trans women?
A transman IS a man so we don't "look more like one".
There is no "telling anyone was female". We have always been men.
You'd think that someone who is also in the trans community would have a bit more tact. ::)
Jason, my cis female gf has stated that she would have never guessed you were FAAB...and she rarely says that about any transguy.
I already said i was sorry. the comment was meant as a compliment. I didnt think yall would get upset at wat i was saying
Quote from: AngéliqueLaCava on December 31, 2012, 09:37:58 PM
I already said i was sorry. the comment was meant as a compliment. I didnt think yall would get upset at wat i was saying
I didn't see your reply as I was watching tv while typing and took forever to post it.
Puleeze, we are ->-bleeped-<-s. We analyze everything when someone is talking about how we look. You know that.
Anyways, quit bugging and get back to the Jersey Shore! :laugh:
heyy guys it's not the best pic, i'll try and put a better one up later but this is my new suit i bought an had tailored to fit for a family wedding do i pass ( i'm 5 months on T)
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Quote from: Justin 21 on January 01, 2013, 08:02:18 AM
heyy guys it's not the best pic, i'll try and put a better one up later but this is my new suit i bought an had tailored to fit for a family wedding do i pass ( i'm 5 months on T)
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You pass (: hope you had fun
Quote from: Justin 21 on January 01, 2013, 08:02:18 AM
heyy guys it's not the best pic, i'll try and put a better one up later but this is my new suit i bought an had tailored to fit for a family wedding do i pass ( i'm 5 months on T)
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Justin, you completely PASS, love the suit it looks great on you.
Quote from: JasonRX on December 31, 2012, 07:51:17 PM
halp plz i dunt think i pass (http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x164/DancepantsEniwa/Image774_zpsc90b84ac.jpg)
Just kidding, guys.
But yep, this is my face.
How do I looK?
u kno u pass, get back over to the badass thread
new years
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thanks =celestica= and spring0721 :)
Quote from: Michael Joseph on January 01, 2013, 02:08:30 PM
new years
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Michael, great pic....love the tie!
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Got a haircut on Monday. Starting T soon :D
Quote from: Michael Joseph on January 01, 2013, 02:08:30 PM
new years
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Lookin' good dude ^^
Quote from: alecto.rejoice on January 02, 2013, 07:03:09 PM
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Got a haircut on Monday. Starting T soon :D
Lookin' good dude ^^
ur not on T yet? go on wit ur bad self lol. U look really good for someone that hasnt started T yet. Btw The hair style is really sexy.
Alecto, I agree with Angelique LaCava, you look really good, especially for being pre-t.
You guys both look awesome! Definite pass.
Yeah Alecto, you already look great, I can't imagine once you get on T !
Justin, Michael Joseph, and Alecto, you all look great!
Quote from: alecto.rejoice on January 02, 2013, 07:03:09 PM
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Got a haircut on Monday. Starting T soon :D
Lookin' good dude ^^
How'd you get your hair like that?? Lookin good bro, I'm jealous of the hair! Haha
I haven't started T yet, but I pass, though I pass for a 15 year old boy lol... But I still like it better than not passing at all
Quote from: Jason.Bailey on January 04, 2013, 06:30:42 PM
I haven't started T yet, but I pass, though I pass for a 15 year old boy lol... But I still like it better than not passing at all
That's awesome! :p
Same thing with me. I'm still closet with my family and I get mistaken for a guy 99% of the time. (I love it lol but they don't)
Lol ya. I pass until they hear me talk lmao! But I still wish I could pass for a man my age instead of a boy 11 years younger than me lol
Quote from: Jason.Bailey on January 04, 2013, 06:57:49 PM
Lol ya. I pass until they hear me talk lmao! But I still wish I could pass for a man my age instead of a boy 11 years younger than me lol
I've passed for a 22 year old marine before lol. Let it be known that I am neither yet haha
Jason and Connor, your opposite yet both sideways avatars are cracking me up. :laugh:
Quote from: Simon on January 04, 2013, 07:09:28 PM
Jason and Connor, your opposite yet both sideways avatars are cracking me up. :laugh:
I never even noticed it until you mentioned it! Hahaha...I took the dang picture about 5 times in all different directions and couldn't figure it out
Lmao! I never noticed until either! Haha
LOL. It's like your avatars are having a conversation/staring contest.
...I need to stop reading this forum while consuming anything I can choke on. The hilarity is too much.
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on January 05, 2013, 12:18:37 AM
LOL. It's like your avatars are having a conversation/staring contest.
...I need to stop reading this forum while consuming anything I can choke on. The hilarity is too much.
LOL... Someone's been reading my mind :)
6 months on T voice pass? forgive the video i make one each month so my family on the otherside of the country can see my progress
The Real me 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmMoWX-sVwQ#)
Quote from: Justin 21 on January 05, 2013, 02:34:38 AM
6 months on T voice pass? forgive the video i make one each month so my family on the otherside of the country can see my progress
Your voice certainly passes. There isn't any ambiguity or question about that fact, in my mind.
Quote from: Justin 21 on January 05, 2013, 02:34:38 AM
6 months on T voice pass? forgive the video i make one each month so my family on the otherside of the country can see my progress
It passes
Quote from: Justin 21 on January 05, 2013, 02:34:38 AM
6 months on T voice pass? forgive the video i make one each month so my family on the otherside of the country can see my progress
The Real me 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmMoWX-sVwQ#)
Justin, yes completely pass on voice & looks to me!
Quote from: Justin 21 on January 05, 2013, 02:34:38 AM
6 months on T voice pass? forgive the video i make one each month so my family on the otherside of the country can see my progress
The Real me 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmMoWX-sVwQ#)
Pass no doubt about that!
I love your accent :D
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Pass?
http://cumyumyum.tumblr.com/image/39774777906 (http://cumyumyum.tumblr.com/image/39774777906)
do i pass?
soon 8 months on T
24 y old
Darrin- I think you're more "passable" with a hat, hats are more masculine IMO.
Esmail- no doubt about it one bit!
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Better in running attire?
Connor, I don't see how anyone could misgender you.
Quote from: Simon on January 05, 2013, 04:31:50 PM
Connor, I don't see how anyone could misgender you.
Breasts always give it away:(
I'm not fond of breasts. Well, of mine anyway haha.
@esmail: all I can say is hot dam haha. U pass 100%. Very masculine looking
@connor: some men hav boobs, but u pass u just look like ur 16 but as long as u pass it shouldn't matter how old u look :)
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on January 05, 2013, 05:05:13 PM
@esmail: all I can say is hot dam haha. U pass 100%. Very masculine looking
@connor: some men hav boobs, but u pass u just look like ur 16 but as long as u pass it shouldn't matter how old u look :)
That's actually my age anyway haha. Yes, some men do have boobs some are muscle, but most are fat...I'd prefer them to be muscle in my honest opinion
Quote from: Connor Stanford on January 05, 2013, 05:16:56 PM
That's actually my age anyway haha. Yes, some men do have boobs some are muscle, but most are fat...I'd prefer them to be muscle in my honest opinion
I'm very, very jealous, I'm the same age but look like I'm 12 or 14 at most, you actually look your age.
You're all making me feel old... :P
Quote from: Alex000000 on January 05, 2013, 05:49:39 PM
I'm very, very jealous, I'm the same age but look like I'm 12 or 14 at most, you actually look your age.
Pretty much the same situation here; someone actually thought I was 10 or 11 not too long ago ::). At least you guys pass all the time :P
OTOH, one of the workers in the diner I went to today called me "buddy" even with my mother's attempts to be a megaphone and shout my name when conversing (and making sure the waitress knew I was a she unnecessarily by speaking for me yet again). That was a nice ego boost.
Quote from: Simon on January 05, 2013, 06:16:21 PM
You're all making me feel old... :P
Uh-oh...don't start talking about the good ol' days when you were a kid, Simon!
Quote from: Connor Stanford on January 05, 2013, 04:38:20 PM
Breasts always give it away:(
I'm not fond of breasts. Well, of mine anyway haha.
Connor, you seriously pass completely ! I don't see how anyone could see you as anything but a guy.
I wish I was older! I hate being...controlled.
@liminal I know your pain! That's all my mother does when we go anywhere! I'm like..."yeah, thanks mom." Haha.
@spring I have girls legs too. That's my weakness, but usually I wear a compression shirt under a t shirt so it conceals my chest and I just look like a little guido meathead thing with overly large pecs haha
@Justin 21: Your voice totally passes.
@Darrin Scott: Totally pass.
@esmail: Totally pass.
@Connor Stanford: Totally pass.
Pass and as how old?
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Konnor, Yes, I'd say you pass and look around 20.
Quote from: Konnor on January 06, 2013, 10:32:53 AM
Pass and as how old?
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Konnor, yeah I just had a weird twilight zone moment looking at your pic. You TOTALLY pass, you also could have been my dad's twin about 25 years ago! Crazy freaky, but nice pics.
Thanks Simon! I'll be 23 in Feb, so I'll take looking 20 pre-T! That's crazy spring, your dad must be pretty awesome haha! Thanks for the replies!
For some reason, my facial hair doesn't show up in pictures, I actually do have quite a noticeable load of black hair on my upper lip. Don't get me wrong I'm no Tom Selleck...but it's definitely there :P so try to take that into account while looking at my mug shots.
I'm basically wondering if I can get away with making more of an effort with my appearance, I would love to be able to wear makeup and have emo-rocker hair....I'm growing my hair long so it's a bit of a state at the moment growing out of a short back and sides style.
In the first two pictures there's no makeup, and my hair is not styled in any way. Then I put on eyeliner and styled my hair for comparison. What do you guys think? Does it make much of a difference?
For the record out in the real world I pass around 50% of the time which is a vast improvement from a few months ago; and I tend to look how I do in the first two pictures. I may post a video at some point so you can judge the whole package and not just an image :P but for now:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.strife-designs.com%2Fme%2F10.jpg&hash=54f18a5222c12abb19f05e31b16e7c6c67d8bf7f) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.strife-designs.com%2Fme%2F11.jpg&hash=2a05f21f471e925f17add2711cb2500bb4a244ab)
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I think you have less of a chance of passing with the makeup and styled hair. I don't feel you pass particularly well in the first two either, so you would definitely need to pass a lot more strongly before you could pull off a "rocker look".
Jeatyn, I kind of have to agree with wheat thins; the eyeliner & 'rocker hair' may. Not help you right now....but I think in the first 2 pics you pass. I might suggest (just my opinion) to get rid of the glasses & opt for contacts if you're able. Otherwise you look great!
I agree with Wheat. I don't think you pass very well yet and the manscara and guyliner doesn't help. I'm thinking in the top two pics it might be the haircut and the glasses that hinder you from passing more. On the bright side, in a year it won't be a question anymore since you're on T.
Quote from: Simon on January 08, 2013, 03:16:28 PM
I agree with Wheat. I don't think you pass very well yet and the manscara and guyliner doesn't help. I'm thinking in the top two pics it might be the haircut and the glasses that hinder you from passing more. On the bright side, in a year it won't be a question anymore since you're on T.
That is, if he responds well to testosterone and changes drastically.
I hate to be harsh, but I don't think he passes at all in any of those pictures and he is probably going to have to change a lot facially for me to think he actually does pass; on the other hand, testosterone can make room for a lot of those changes - I am actually one of those guys who experienced drastic changes with HRT. I'm going to echo what everyone else said about Jeatyn and recommend he hold off on makeup as it can cue androgyny, if you're not already extremely masculine looking.
@jeatyn I agree with jasonRX, you don't pass too well in the first two pictures. I think part of it is because you're young and the bones in your face aren't too pronounced yet and you seem to have really nice skin. Even without T, most likely your face would change in a few years once you loose some of that softness on your face and you start getting the sleep-deprived, hungry for coffee look. But, since you're on T now, if you respond well that should help you pass a lot better.
Quote from: LearnedHand on January 08, 2013, 06:05:44 PM
@jeatyn I agree with jasonRX, you don't pass too well in the first two pictures. I think part of it is because you're young and the bones in your face aren't too pronounced yet and you seem to have really nice skin. Even without T, most likely your face would change in a few years once you loose some of that softness on your face and you start getting the sleep-deprived, hungry for coffee look. But, since you're on T now, if you respond well that should help you pass a lot better.
I'm only nineteen and people tell me I pass for older than my age after being on HRT. I couldn't even pass for thirteen beforehand.
My glasses really? Interesting, I posted a few months ago in a thread entitled "why don't I pass?" and the consensus there was that the glasses were helping :D Just took this now to compare:
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For the record I'm in my PJ's, not regular every day clothes.
I know I don't pass well and I really appreciate the honesty. I was worried everyone would be too afraid of offending anyone to tell the truth instead of being helpful :P I may pop in more often.
I'm sort of getting to the point now that I don't really see the point in trying too hard because I don't pass anyway if you know what I mean? Hence starting to grow my hair out. I figure I just have to wait for the T to kick in before I get anywhere so I may as well have my look the way I want it.
Edit: Just grabbed an old picture, do the piercings and shorter hair help at all?
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Hey Jeatyn -
In these pictures your bangs are cut like they would be in a short female haircut. The hair around your ears is tapered to a point instead of squared off like in a guy's haircut. Also, something about the layering on the top of your head is more like a female cut than a guy's.
Right now, I really think you just need a straight up male hair cut if you really care about passing.
edit: your haircut is way more male in the red hair picture - it is better shorter without the poof on the top, and without the longer bangs
Quote from: JasonRX on January 08, 2013, 06:39:17 PM
I'm only nineteen and people tell me I pass for older than my age after being on HRT. I couldn't even pass for thirteen beforehand.
Yup, I thought you were around 23. 19? I'm shocked, lol.
Quote from: Simon on January 08, 2013, 07:21:51 PM
Yup, I thought you were around 23. 19? I'm shocked, lol.
I've been verified.
:D
But yep, only nineteen. I've always been pretty bad when it comes to acting my age too though, so I actually wish I was older. I sort of wonder what I'm going to look like when I'm actually 23. Oh, 2016, how you seem so far away right now.
:)
Quote from: Simon on January 08, 2013, 07:21:51 PM
Yup, I thought you were around 23. 19? I'm shocked, lol.
Yep, I am shocked too.
@ Jeatyn, you seem to pass more with the shorter hair and piercings. But wear your hair however you want, grow it out and see how you pass and feel once the T kicks in.
Quote from: spacerace on January 08, 2013, 06:57:38 PM
Hey Jeatyn -
In these pictures your bangs are cut like they would be in a short female haircut. The hair around your ears is tapered to a point instead of squared off like in a guy's haircut. Also, something about the layering on the top of your head is more like a female cut than a guy's.
Right now, I really think you just need a straight up male hair cut if you really care about passing.
edit: your haircut is way more male in the red hair picture - it is better shorter without the poof on the top, and without the longer bangs
Jeatyn THIS.........you definitely passed more with the shorter hair, now I don't know if it was the glasses or not ? Maybe it is the hair. Maybe get a cut if you feel like it!
Jeatyn - imo, the glasses definitely hold back your passing, and I generally can't pinpoint such things...actually, you have a few similar features to me, and I struggle to pass as well. I'd be thrilled to death if I passed 50% of the time like you do though.
I think my now deep voice has contributed hugely to my passing. It dropped REALLY quickly which I am thrilled about. I always make sure I say hello how are you or some other random greeting when I go to the shops or get on the bus and I get "sir" and "mate" much more often than before; and phone passing has been at a 100% rate for the past few months.
Now that I'm looking at the pictures side by side my hair really does look ridiculous at the moment, the red look was much better. I wish I could skip this awkward half grown stage and go straight to the long hair I'm actually aiming for to see how it would look xD I think I may cut it tonight, with shorter hair AND a deep voice the 50% pass rate may go up....I'll grow it out again once more facial hair kicks in.
I'll post more pictures once it's short with and without glasses for more opinions if you don't mind ^_^
Edit: Got a bit carried away and went way shorter than usual! And uncovered what I'm pretty sure is the beginnings of a receding hairline D= not amused at this
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Ok I have been on T for 3 months. Had top surgery 2 months ago. Sometimes I wonder if I really pass or not. 99% of the time I do, but I still wonder. I haven't really been using the men's bathroom yet, for some reason I don't have to go or it hasn't really presented itself yet. Maybe you guys can let me know what you think?
The first picture was taken about 2 yrs ago.
Before T:
http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s636/alexlucero55/meeee_zpse20e6a57.jpg (http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s636/alexlucero55/meeee_zpse20e6a57.jpg)
After starting T 3 months:
http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s636/alexlucero55/Picture10_zpsecb8ef39.jpg (http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s636/alexlucero55/Picture10_zpsecb8ef39.jpg)
Not sure if these are good pics or not? Let's see if you can guess my age? ;D
Alex
@Alex55: I see a huge difference, there's no way on earth I would gender you female in the second pic. I'm not even going to attempt a guess at your age, I've always been useless in that department xD
@Jeatyn Thanks! I won't reveal my age just yet...I am too chickn right now, besides you probably wouldn't believe me anyway! By the way way your hair looks great shorter.
Alex
Alex55, that is drastic changes in 3 months, congrats. Hmm, I'll guess your age (since you asked)...I'd say late 40's.
Jeatyn -- I would now say that you pass better with your glasses on... And you definitely pass a lot better with the shorter hair. Not sure the bright pink shirt is helping though... :P
Alex -- That's a huge difference, you look undeniably male now, no doubt about it. I would also say 40's although I'm awful at guessing ages.
I think you pass better with short hair Jeatyn. Looks much better. I think you look alright with or without glasses. I don't think you completely pass yet, but I think you're on the right tracks. Alex, you totally look male now. That's one heck of a difference. I had to flick through the pictures a couple of times to make sure it was the same person. I'd say early to mid 40s but I'm not too great at guessing ages either.
Joey
Hehe the pink shirt is just my PJ's :D
I keep the faith that I'll be able to have long hair, makeup and pink clothing eventually some time in the future without anyone questioning my male-ness.
Alex, I have to agree with everyone else, those are amazing changes!
Thanks everyone! I am 48 yrs old...hahahaha..not too bad. I am about 5'3" - 5'4" on good days. I grew my eyebrows out and they now look like caterpillars.. cut my hair shorter and bulked up a bit. So like I said I pass about 99% of the time but I always get weird looks sometimes.
Jeatyn: I think you pass better without the glasses and the short hair in the photos you just posted. Especially the one where you're looking towards the side, maybe it's just the lighting but you don't look as pale and I can see a bit more bone structure. You don't pass 100%, I'd probably question whether you were another transguy if I saw you out on the street unless I just saw you very briefly, but I def wouldn't automatically think you were faab.
Alex55: Such a huge difference! You look amazing
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so i know i don't completely pass, i haven't started T or anything, i am more on the genderqueer side of being trans. but i am growing my hair out to see what it looks like. heres me with short hair:
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i think i pass so much better in my short hair picture, but my mom hates my hair like that
Jeatyn, the shorter hair is definitely better and I think the glasses actually helping you pass.
Alex, your progression is awesome, man!
Dylanjakoby, I think you pass also with the longer hair.
I was thinking about my earrings, a few people said that I shouldn't wear them cause it hinders my passing. I' d like to keep them, I don't think they are girly....so what do you think?
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Jared, the checkerboard ones aren't feminine at all. I've never seen a guy wear earrings like the dice ones though. It's hard to tell what they look like on you and help/hinder your passing with just an ear shot.
dylanjakoby: I think you pass well especially considering you're pre-T, even with the longer hair
Jared: I don't think they're girly earrings at all; and they're really cool to boot :P
60,000 views...1,600 post...that is 2.6%
So, 2.6% of forum members are ........(insert what ever you want to call us), the 97.4% of forum members are VORYEOURS >:-) :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :angel:
Dylan - You pass in the first photograph, but not so sure about the second one, probably just the angle. The photo of you with shorter hair does look better, but you're in a very masculine position as well, which does help, whereas we can't see your posture and clothes etc in the first two. At the end of the day it's your hair though, and I could imagine you passing pretty well in real life with your hair either way.
Jared - I'd say that the die earring doesn't help, mostly because I've never seen men wearing dice, but also because second piercings aren't that common in men. I like the other two though, would get some if my holes hadn't closed up from my botched attempt at stretching them...
Dylan: Unlike Alex I think you pass in the first and third picture. I'm not sure about the other one. I really don't know...
Quote from: Sparrowhawke on January 10, 2013, 03:51:18 PM
Dylan: Unlike Alex I think you pass in the first and third picture. I'm not sure about the other one. I really don't know...
I was saying that he passed in the first and last picture, but the middle one doesn't look as male to me because of the angle.
Jared:
When you zoom in on the earrings, it's clear that they aren't feminine in style. The problem may be that it's not the design of the earrings, bur rather how the earrings contribute to the framing or highlighting of you facial features. I wore black cuff style earrings, made for men, but I realized that on me, they feminized my face, so I took them out and it's been better. Will probably put them back in once T has had a chance to work its magic.
Quote from: Simon on January 10, 2013, 01:29:41 PM
It's hard to tell what they look like on you and help/hinder your passing with just an ear shot.
Okay I take out the dice ;D I was looking at pictures but it's really invisible that they are there, maybe I just need a new camera....
Quote from: Jeatyn on January 10, 2013, 01:52:20 PM
Jared: I don't think they're girly earrings at all; and they're really cool to boot :P
Thanks :D
Quote from: Alex000000 on January 10, 2013, 03:34:07 PM
Jared - I'd say that the die earring doesn't help, mostly because I've never seen men wearing dice, but also because second piercings aren't that common in men. I like the other two though, would get some if my holes hadn't closed up from my botched attempt at stretching them...
Thanks, and sorry to hear that. I don't worry about second piercings, but you're totally right about the dice, I'll change it.
Quote from: deven on January 10, 2013, 10:13:11 PM
Jared:
When you zoom in on the earrings, it's clear that they aren't feminine in style. The problem may be that it's not the design of the earrings, bur rather how the earrings contribute to the framing or highlighting of you facial features. I wore black cuff style earrings, made for men, but I realized that on me, they feminized my face, so I took them out and it's been better. Will probably put them back in once T has had a chance to work its magic.
Yeah, I only wear them at night right now so they won't close up, and when T really kicks in I put them back.
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Here is Caleb. He's funny, sweet, caring and smart. I think he has Beautiful eyes and a great smile.
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I stealthily took these screencaps. But he knows I was going to post here. ^_^
OMG. I knew you were going to post the one in the white shirt, but the other...dear God, why?? Lol!
Yeah so there's my face -_-
you pass to me Caleb.
Quote from: Caleb. on January 11, 2013, 04:02:52 AM
OMG. I knew you were going to post the one in the white shirt, but the other...dear God, why?? Lol!
Yeah so there's my face -_-
Casey, your face looks so significantly different from when we first started talking. I think your face actually passes, as far as these pictures go. It could be your body that's getting you misgendered, because I don't see how someone would call you "she" so consistently based off of your visage.
Quote from: JasonRX on January 11, 2013, 07:56:37 AM
Casey, your face looks so significantly different from when we first started talking. I think your face actually passes, as far as these pictures go. It could be your body that's getting you misgendered, because I don't see how someone would call you "she" so consistently based off of your visage.
I know Right?! I keep telling him he passes. Even my family think he passes.
But, he can a bit stubborn/slow/dense at times. :P
You pass to me as well, especially in the top one, possibly because of the glasses. I know photos are a bit different to real life, but it shouldn't be long before you feel more confident in your ability to been seen as who you are.
Caleb, you completely pass! Nice smile too.
Caleb: you look fine.
Sorry Alex I must have been reading your post wrong :P
how do u upload pics here? from files or gallery? i plan to do pics here
Quote from: ajayjo on January 11, 2013, 11:37:05 PM
how do u upload pics here? from files or gallery? i plan to do pics here
You need to use a photo hosting site like Photobucket, ImageShack etc. :)
Quote from: V M on January 11, 2013, 11:52:20 PM
You need to use a photo hosting site like Photobucket, ImageShack etc. :)
A little off-topic, but I started to read your signature instead of your post and thought you wanted him to be naked on some ice first :D
Thanks those who have responded. I think this probably means I can write off my facial features as the cause of not passing. I've shown a few members videos of me through PM and they feel I pass visually as well, so there must be something else going on that I can't pinpoint. Because while my voice is still fairly high, I do get misgendered on sight.
Quote from: Sparrowhawke on January 12, 2013, 12:27:45 AM
A little off-topic, but I started to read your signature instead of your post and thought you wanted him to be naked on some ice first :D
LOL... Shouldn't everyone? >:-)
Quote from: Caleb. on January 12, 2013, 12:36:10 AM
Thanks those who have responded. I think this probably means I can write off my facial features as the cause of not passing. I've shown a few members videos of me through PM and they feel I pass visually as well, so there must be something else going on that I can't pinpoint. Because while my voice is still fairly high, I do get misgendered on sight.
Your face is fine. Have you had top surgery? If not, how well is your binder working? Hips/bum not redustributed yet? Whatever it is, I wouldn't worry. The voice, face, fat pattern, chest - whatever the problem is will be fixed with time.
http://imageshack.us/a/img541/8282/ajstud.jpg (http://imageshack.us/a/img541/8282/ajstud.jpg)
Quote from: Fat Admin on January 12, 2013, 12:53:50 AM
Your face is fine. Have you had top surgery? If not, how well is your binder working? Hips/bum not redustributed yet? Whatever it is, I wouldn't worry. The voice, face, fat pattern, chest - whatever the problem is will be fixed with time.
I haven't. My binder works fairly well - I have that "unimoob" thing going on but it's not super visible in the shirts I wear. I've been considering what you said in the other thread about how even though my fat distribution is fairly male, people might be going off the "lesbian" stereotype.
I may post a video and/or body pic in the near future. I'm really curious now, because I always assumed it was my face.
Quote from: Caleb. on January 12, 2013, 01:08:12 AM
Quote from: Fat Admin on January 12, 2013, 12:53:50 AM
Your face is fine. Have you had top surgery? If not, how well is your binder working? Hips/bum not redustributed yet? Whatever it is, I wouldn't worry. The voice, face, fat pattern, chest - whatever the problem is will be fixed with time.
I haven't. My binder works fairly well - I have that "unimoob" thing going on but it's not super visible in the shirts I wear. I've been considering what you said in the other thread about how even though my fat distribution is fairly male, people might be going off the "lesbian" stereotype.
I may post a video and/or body pic in the near future. I'm really curious now, because I always assumed it was my face.
Well, you can try showing us, but I doubt it's going to be anything we can pinpoint. I don't think anyone would have been able to pinpoint why I wasn't passing back in the day either. One day you look androgynous, and the next you're getting sirred everywhere. You won't know why or what changed. At least I didn't anyhow.
I wonder if your being a teacher is making people take you for older, and thus female because you can't pass for whatever age they're thinking. I don't remember if I asked, are you able to grow some decent facial hair?
Anyway can't hurt to post a video or more pics. Might generate some good tips.
I think you're almost there and it just hasn't 'clicked' or whatever for people yet.
Quote from: Fat Admin on January 12, 2013, 02:27:47 AM
I wonder if your being a teacher is making people take you for older, and thus female because you can't pass for whatever age they're thinking. I don't remember if I asked, are you able to grow some decent facial hair?
No facial hair at all, except a small creepy stache, lol. As for the age thing, that's certainly the problem at university. Pretty much all the guys at university, even the first years, have noticeable facial hair and stuff. And while there are short men, most of the guys my height (5'4") aren't white.
As for everywhere else though...I don't see a reason why they'd expect an older age.
Ajayo, definite pass bro!! I really like your hair, I wish I could get lined up like that, it would really help because you can choose what you want your hairline to look like. Yours is very masculine. Are you on T or anything? I know you didn't ask but I think you look about 16/17, which is actually a pretty good thing.
Not so much a "Do I pass" as a "Guess my age". Forgive the lack of color. XD
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John, I'd say you're 28ish.
kylexx- thanks, actually im 27 and on T few days ago recently
Ajayjo, I think you look great, and I would've guessed about 20 or so.
John, I'd guess between 26-30.
Quote from: ajayjo on January 12, 2013, 04:33:36 PM
kylexx- thanks, actually im 27 and on T few days ago recently
right on man, you'll be looking your age in no time.
I'm 36, so late twenties is fine by me. XD
Caleb, unfortunately I think the combination of height, voice, facial hair, and perceived age is probably leading to most of your misgendering. Even outside of the university, I would imagine you're dressing more like an adult than a young teen (which to me is closer to the age you're passing at) -- likely leading people to assume female. I think I remember you saying in another thread about wanting to lose some weight - on that, I think lowering your body fat and developing some visible upper body muscle would help give more angle to your face and broaden your shoulders - both of which would help with passing.
awkward pic but i got a new haircut. pass?
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Quote from: ty.to.the.man on January 14, 2013, 09:53:44 AM
awkward pic but i got a new haircut. pass?
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you've lost a bit of baby fat already.
you passed before and now you do even more *unintentionalrhyming*
Tyler, you pass! Watched a few of your youtube videos. You're doing great.
So I got a new hair cut.
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I think it looks more masculine, and it's the shortest I've ever had it. Feeling pretty confident. Anymore tips on passing? I know I don't pass yet and I'm pre-everything.
Joey
Wow joey, you look pretty great. I'd say that once you get a proper binder you'll be passing well.
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You can say me Do I pass in this picture, please.
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Today at public swimming pool! A friend take me on picture! I like very much this pictures of me for one time! :)
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Just took some pictures with my brothers. Any thoughts? Also, do I look younger than both of them?
And the obvious question is: would you read me as male?
Not especially.
You look younger than your brother on the right, but you look about the same age as the one on the left.
On another note you can totally tell that you're all related.
Zarathoustra - you pass really well to me
Nygeel - I would say you look older than your brother on the left and younger than the one on the right of the photo
I don't post here too often, but when I do I generally don't get too many responses. I will say I tend to pass about 85% of the time in public since starting T almost a year ago. Here is a fairly recent pic of me:
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Do I pass? I just want some opinions on what I can do to go from 85% of the time to 100%. I know, some of it is mannerisms and I'm working on those and that's helped a lot. What say you?
Darrin you pass to me, especially with the facial hair going on. Maybe a frontal or whole body shot would show something more that I am not seeing now that would make you not pass, but seems fine to me.
hard to say from a side view.
Quote from: Darrin Scott on January 14, 2013, 06:11:27 PM
I don't post here too often, but when I do I generally don't get too many responses. I will say I tend to pass about 85% of the time in public since starting T almost a year ago. Here is a fairly recent pic of me:
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Do I pass? I just want some opinions on what I can do to go from 85% of the time to 100%. I know, some of it is mannerisms and I'm working on those and that's helped a lot. What say you?
Just going by the pic. I'd say total pass 8) Cool hair cut btw
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on January 14, 2013, 09:53:44 AM
awkward pic but i got a new haircut. pass?
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dude you look older each time you post. thats so awesome bro, looks like the T is already working its magic. can't imagine how boss you're gonna look by this time next year! baller! lol ;D
Shaved yesterday (everything except a bit of sideburns and my chin) and was misgendered at the grocery store. (I'm one month on T) An idiot in the soda aisle looked at his friend and said "that's a dyke". I did what I'm great at and ignored them. Just acted like I didn't hear them but I will admit, it stung a bit. Thanks to them I probably won't shave for 6 months now, lol. Pass or not when shaved? Also, how old do you think I am?
Quote from: Simon on January 18, 2013, 04:17:09 AM
Shaved yesterday (everything except a bit of sideburns and my chin) and was misgendered at the grocery store. (I'm one month on T) An idiot in the soda aisle looked at his friend and said "that's a dyke". I did what I'm great at and ignored them. Just acted like I didn't hear them but I will admit, it stung a bit. Thanks to them I probably won't shave for 6 months now, lol. Pass or not when shaved? Also, how old do you think I am?
I think you pass for mid to late twenties, Simon.
However, I also don't think you look clean shaven in this picture. Did you post the right one?
Quote from: JasonRX on January 18, 2013, 06:56:16 AM
I think you pass for mid to late twenties, Simon.
However, I also don't think you look clean shaven in this picture. Did you post the right one?
Yep, it's the right one. Upper lip is just stubble. I shaved yesterday (now it's the day before yesterday). It grows in quick.
Quote from: Simon on January 18, 2013, 07:08:03 AM
Yep, it's the right one. Upper lip is just stubble. I shaved yesterday (now it's the day before yesterday). It grows in quick.
Your hair already grows in quicker than mine, so that's pretty impressive. XD
That stinks, Simon...I can't even imagine how anyone could misgender you though. You pass, look late 20s to me.
Quote from: Simon on January 18, 2013, 04:17:09 AM
Shaved yesterday (everything except a bit of sideburns and my chin) and was misgendered at the grocery store. (I'm one month on T) An idiot in the soda aisle looked at his friend and said "that's a dyke". I did what I'm great at and ignored them. Just acted like I didn't hear them but I will admit, it stung a bit. Thanks to them I probably won't shave for 6 months now, lol. Pass or not when shaved? Also, how old do you think I am?
I'd say that you definitely pass.If I really look, I can see a few female traits, but you definitely look like a guy. And I'd say you look mid-late twenties.
So I'm pre-everything. Not really passing, but trying desperately to head in that direction.
My hair. It's short, but is it too girly? I was going to get it cut next week. Any thoughts on how I could make it a little more masculine?
Any tips on getting more of a male look in general of course appreciated.
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You look like a guy to me. If I had to nitpick, I would say that your eyebrows aren't as bushy as I would expect on a guy, but the hair looks cool.
i agree, pass in the last pic but in the first two your eyebrows hinder your passing a little bit
You totally look like a guy to me, Ford
I've never seen a guy with a nose piercing so that throws me off a bit. As the others said they eyebrows could do with bushing put a bit, but if that's how they are without plucking there's not much you can do.
Not pushing your hair back (at least at the sides) would look more masculine to me, but that might not be universal.
Ford, just grow your eyebrows out and change your stud to a hoop. Don't see many guys with a stud. (Plus the hoop is hot)
Thanks all. So the hair doesn't seem to be the issue :P
Yeah, I knew the nose stud would come up, haha! I went through a piercing phase after I got out of the military (too much new-found freedom). A hoop though, I might have to give that a go.
And eyebrows...I pluck them! I'm guilty! Really for no other reason than (weirdo alert) I like plucking them, it's sort of a therapeutic process to yank those little suckers out. Based off your advice though I'm definitely going to let them go. Maybe not to my natural feral unibrow level though, lol (I'm a hairy Italian what can I say).
You are androgynous.
Quote from: Zarathoustra on January 19, 2013, 03:03:42 PM
You are androgynous.
Passing tips would help if this is not what the person you're replying to is aiming for. Just saying.
Quote from: Zarathoustra on January 19, 2013, 03:03:42 PM
You are androgynous.
Hey, it's not a bad start. I honestly wasn't sure what sort of vibe I give off at all. My family seems to think I look like a butch Lesbian, heehee. I don't have a problem with that but they couldn't be further from the truth...
And growing out eyebrows and taking out a nose stud is pretty easy stuff to fix.
/shakes fist at eyebrows. Grow little buddies!
Quote from: ford on January 19, 2013, 09:18:41 AM
And eyebrows...I pluck them! I'm guilty! Really for no other reason than (weirdo alert) I like plucking them, it's sort of a therapeutic process to yank those little suckers out. Based off your advice though I'm definitely going to let them go. Maybe not to my natural feral unibrow level though, lol (I'm a hairy Italian what can I say).
Some men like to shape their eyebrows. If you want to pass as a classic indisputable male, then grow them out. Be hairy, RAAWRR. If you want to groom them, then it's what you like. Some Gay/metro/even some straight men do. Or you can grow them out now until you've transitioned further then come back later and continue with shaping or whatever... I only throw that out there because I don't know what level of passing you're aiming for. From the photos, I'd place you in the range between neutral to masculine.
Quote from: ford on January 19, 2013, 03:24:40 PM
My family seems to think I look like a butch Lesbian, heehee. I don't have a problem with that but they couldn't be further from the truth...
This made me laugh. I posted in a different thread about my dislike of being called a lesbian or a butch when the term was used to describe me as it was incredibly inaccurate. However, I think when people assumed that I was (without saying it to me), it somehow helped me feel like they identified me in general as a more masculine energy/person despite the known gender. When I finally said, "Guess what, I'm transitioning," it was like, no one really reacted with shock or horror. They are still surprised that I prefer men. Hahaha..
Quote from: Tejas on January 19, 2013, 03:36:36 PM
Or you can grow them out now until you've transitioned further then come back later and continue with shaping or whatever...
Yeah, this is probably the wisest course of action. I'm a femme guy. That much I know. But I think for now I should grow 'em out to assert my identity a little better. Kind of like how I'm avoiding feminine colors but someday I hope to be able to wear them confidently again (like so many guys already do).
Quote from: Tejas on January 19, 2013, 03:44:49 PM
This made me laugh. I posted in a different thread about my dislike of being called a lesbian or a butch when the term was used to describe me as it was incredibly inaccurate. However, I think when people assumed that I was (without saying it to me), it somehow helped me feel like they identified me in general as a more masculine energy/person despite the known gender. When I finally said, "Guess what, I'm transitioning," it was like, no one really reacted with shock or horror. They are still surprised that I prefer men. Hahaha..
Hehe, I'm with you 100%. As the look got more and more butch my family knew something was up. After I came out it the response was along the lines of, 'ah. so
that's what's going on.' Still haven't been able to convince them why, if I like men, it wouldn't be easier for me to remain a girl. Bless them...
It's not a bad start, Ford : you pass better than me when I have not started the Testosterone.
ford i would say only pluck between your eyebrows and as for hair less volume or a bit shorter would make it more masculine but now you are at the male side of androgynous in my eyes.
ty you look god i like the new hair it elongates your face and your face is just less chubby but i think the hair helps.
Quote from: ford on January 19, 2013, 12:57:54 AM
So I'm pre-everything. Not really passing, but trying desperately to head in that direction.
My hair. It's short, but is it too girly? I was going to get it cut next week. Any thoughts on how I could make it a little more masculine?
Any tips on getting more of a male look in general of course appreciated.
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in the 2 face shots you look androgynous, But in the full body pic you look like any other boy i see on the street and honestly a pretty attractive boy too. so i hope i helped ur confidance lol :)
You've got a nice strong chin, ford, and it helps a lot in making you look male. Judging from your clothes and pose in the final pic, I'm guessing you've got fairly masculine mannerisms, and those also help a lot in passing. Honestly, I think the only distinctly femme thing about you is what others have already mentioned -- your eyebrows.
And I'd describe your hair as more "adorably scruffy" than girly. :p
Quote from: ford on January 19, 2013, 12:57:54 AM
So I'm pre-everything. Not really passing, but trying desperately to head in that direction.
My hair. It's short, but is it too girly? I was going to get it cut next week. Any thoughts on how I could make it a little more masculine?
Any tips on getting more of a male look in general of course appreciated.
i think you pass best (100%) in the full body pic with the normal facial expression. first two don't pass at all imo, but it's an easy fix, just don't ever make those faces when you want to pass. actually, you look seriously badass in the full body, you should post it in the other thread! :)
Hey, thanks everyone for the thoughts! Very helpful stuff indeed!
Quote from: KyleXX on January 19, 2013, 08:55:34 PM
first two don't pass at all imo, but it's an easy fix, just don't ever make those faces when you want to pass.
haha! Oh gosh, I'm kind of a goof in real life but I'll try to tone it down and work on my badassery :laugh:
It very difficult to me to put a picture before T but I think It's interesting for people who haven't started Testostérone.
I was really girly. :'(
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17 months later...(and on T)
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So : keep hope! ;)
Quote from: Zarathoustra on January 19, 2013, 11:41:10 PM
It very difficult to me to put a picture before T but I think It's interesting for people who haven't started Testostérone.
I was really girly. :'(
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17 months later...(and on T)
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So : keep hope! ;)
Honestly, you don't look very girly in either of those pictures. Perhaps you look more masculine in the second, but you definitely don't look very "femme" in the first either.
Quote from: JasonRX on January 20, 2013, 04:04:59 PM
Honestly, you don't look very girly in either of those pictures. Perhaps you look more masculine in the second, but you definitely don't look very "femme" in the first either.
I agree with Jason. I think if anything looks feminine in the first picture it's the clothing, but your face appears quite androgynous to me, and then definitely masculine in the second. It's cool to see that transformation, thanks for sharing :)
Yeah, but I think it's one subtility of language. I want to say : it was very difficult to have a passing before T for me because my face was very feminine (not my look or style).
And you are welcome! :)
New Hair!
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What do you guys think?
@Darrin Scott: the hair looks nice, though I haven't seen your old haircut. It looks like you lost weight in these photos, congrats
Quote from: Zarathoustra on January 19, 2013, 11:41:10 PM
It very difficult to me to put a picture before T but I think It's interesting for people who haven't started Testostérone.
I was really girly. :'(
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17 months later...(and on T)
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So : keep hope! ;)
You're a pretty cute guy :3
Darrin, I think the hair suits you very well.
darrin, loving the new haircut! looks great :)
Thanks everyone!
I hope I pass pretty well.
Quote from: Darrin Scott on January 21, 2013, 05:41:38 PM
Thanks everyone!
I hope I pass pretty well.
You certainly do to me. I love spiky hair!
I think short hair sure helps in passing.
Yeah, you pass Darrin. And that's a great hairstyle for you, you're looking really good.
Damn dude you look awesome. (Darrin)
Nicely done, Darrin!
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I don't look my age. It used to bother me, but now I think it's pretty awesome. It takes two additional years off when I shave, but I don't like it looking all patchy.
Tejas, you're a handsome dood! :)
Darrin your hair is awesome!
Tejas, I don't know how old are you, but looking good.
I got my hair cut again, and I said just a little from the top please and ended up like this....:
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I'm not sure if I still pass with this short hair?
Jared, your picture isn't showing. Maybe it's just my computer?
Tejas, you look awesome, I am extremely bad at guessing ages but I'd say you look to be in your early 20s.
Quote from: LearnedHand on January 24, 2013, 09:13:22 PM
I'd say you look to be in your early 20s.
Thanks. Turning 27 sooner than I'd like. Early 20s is older than what I usually get pegged with (13-16) by strangers. I only know because they like to tell me what they think. Haha. Usually, it works in my favor rather than against me when I look young.
I don't see Jared's photo either.
Uhm maybe something's wrong with mine cause I can see it :'D
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Uploaded again.
Hey Jared I think you pass with the short hair. It's certainly not a girly cut.
Tejas - wow, you look great. And hey we're the same age :P I agree you look early twenties.
Quote from: Jared on January 25, 2013, 06:54:03 AM
Uhm maybe something's wrong with mine cause I can see it :'D
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Uploaded again.
I'm going to say that you don't pass quite yet. You're getting there, but I still think there's something about your face that makes me question if you're male or not.
Quote from: JasonRX on January 25, 2013, 02:42:33 PM
I'm going to say that you don't pass quite yet. You're getting there, but I still think there's something about your face that makes me question if you're male or not.
Sadly I agree.
@ford: the haircut isn't girly that's true, but I think I can't wear this short right now, it makes my face appear more girly than I'd like to. It was just a little longer before but it was enough to pass irl.
Quote from: Tejas on January 23, 2013, 10:45:59 AM
Nicely done, Darrin!
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I don't look my age. It used to bother me, but now I think it's pretty awesome. It takes two additional years off when I shave, but I don't like it looking all patchy.
Hi Tejas :) I think you look great. 100% male. Can you be my boyfriend? :) Hahahahaha
I swear I'm not totally hideous :3
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Hey guys so how do I pass 8) ? If I pass at all ... I'm pre-T obviously ;D
Quote from: ittsrainbowman on January 26, 2013, 10:00:39 AM
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Hey guys so how do I pass 8) ? If I pass at all ... I'm pre-T obviously ;D
I think you're quite good looking and testosterone will do wonders for your face.
I'm pretty sure my face was softer looking than yours pre-HRT and now I look like a bear, so.
XD
Quote from: kyh on January 26, 2013, 07:39:03 AM
Hi Tejas :) I think you look great. 100% male. Can you be my boyfriend? :) Hahahahaha
I swear I'm not totally hideous :3
@kyh: 哈! 謝謝你, 可是我覺得我的女朋友不喜歡那個主意。;)
@Simon: Didn't see your response there! Thanks!
@Jared: Hey, try some product in your hair and a camera angle from eye level. Since we can't see your face dynamically, we're relying mostly on just what you present and I think this doesn't give the best representation. Also, I think in passing, I wouldn't question you at all (which is what you want, right?). However, if you invited me to stare at you, then my mind will naturally start to assess the features. (PS, My hair does that too, that poofy look. I have to put a skullcap on it till it calms the 'Asianness'—what a pain. Probably going to go back to shaving my head.)
@Ford: TIGERS!!
@ittsrainbowman: Not obvious. ;) Because I would have just thought you were a teenage guy. I think, 'we' judge each other harsher than the general public. They often notice a lot less.
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I think I pass alright, as long as I don't speak... but I'm obviously biased. What do you all think? :)
Quote from: Sam/Gabriel on January 26, 2013, 02:07:54 PM
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I think I pass alright, as long as I don't speak... but I'm obviously biased. What do you all think? :)
You totally look like a guy to me. :)
Sam/Gabriel: yeah I think you pass as a guy :) I would say you're 14 or 15. I know what you mean, when people meet me they refer to me as a guy till they hear me talking x| I even don't know could I try to correct them ... That would be confusing ;D
Quote from: CursedFire on January 26, 2013, 03:01:06 PM
You totally look like a guy to me. :)
Thanks :)
Quote from: ittsrainbowman on January 26, 2013, 03:14:24 PM
Sam/Gabriel: yeah I think you pass as a guy :) I would say you're 14 or 15. I know what you mean, when people meet me they refer to me as a guy till they hear me talking x| I even don't know could I try to correct them ... That would be confusing ;D
Haha really, 14/15? I'm 18. Yeah, I find it really hard to correct people without it being awkward.
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I think I pass alright, as long as I don't speak... but I'm obviously biased. What do you all think? :)
100% pass. You have a bit of the stereotypical nerd look going on. We meet on Thursdays for D&D :P
...I wish I had some friends to be a nerd and play that with.
Everyone looks awesome here. Jared, I think longer hair helps with passing because it's better for the hairline you have (not to say that won't change in the future). Also, I may be wrong, but your eyebrows look a bit shaped to me. Other than that, it's not bad, also kind of an awkward camera angle.
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on January 26, 2013, 08:21:51 PM
100% pass. You have a bit of the stereotypical nerd look going on. We meet on Thursdays for D&D :P
...I wish I had some friends to be a nerd and play that with.
Haha thanks. Yep, total geek right here X)
Quote from: Sam/Gabriel on January 26, 2013, 08:34:13 PM
Haha thanks. Yep, total geek right here X)
Your awesomeness has been noted, good sir!
Quote from: Tejas on January 26, 2013, 12:53:52 PM
@kyh: 哈! 謝謝你, 可是我覺得我的女朋友不喜歡那個主意。;)
@Simon: Didn't see your response there! Thanks!
@Jared: Hey, try some product in your hair and a camera angle from eye level. Since we can't see your face dynamically, we're relying mostly on just what you present and I think this doesn't give the best representation. Also, I think in passing, I wouldn't question you at all (which is what you want, right?). However, if you invited me to stare at you, then my mind will naturally start to assess the features. (PS, My hair does that too, that poofy look. I have to put a skullcap on it till it calms the 'Asianness'—what a pain. Probably going to go back to shaving my head.)
@Ford: TIGERS!!
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on January 26, 2013, 08:21:51 PM
100% pass. You have a bit of the stereotypical nerd look going on. We meet on Thursdays for D&D :P
...I wish I had some friends to be a nerd and play that with.
Everyone looks awesome here. Jared, I think longer hair helps with passing because it's better for the hairline you have (not to say that won't change in the future). Also, I may be wrong, but your eyebrows look a bit shaped to me. Other than that, it's not bad, also kind of an awkward camera angle.
@ittsrainbowman: Not obvious. ;) Because I would have just thought you were a teenage guy. I think, 'we' judge each other harsher than the general public. They often notice a lot less.
The camera angle may be awkward but it's the most comfortable position to take a picture with webcam :'D Whatever, I'm gonna try some product or just put on a hat ;D My eyebrows aren't shaped, it's just blonde :-X That's my problem with the little facial hair I have, it's not visible...but it's gonna change :)
@ittsrainbowman and Sam/Gabriel: both of you pass guys.
Sam/Gabriel you are really handsome!
Finally stopped procrastinating and got a haircut-- no more shaggy mop (for a few months, anyway...). Went to the barber-- they always do a nice job. I ended up making up a pretty good life story for myself. I always get questioning looks when I say I'm anywhere close to my age, so I told her I was a junior in high school. Boom. No need to worry about higher voice and sparse facial hair. 8)
The roundness of my face really comes out without my glasses, and she trimmed my eyebrows a bit. I don't think it's too feminine, though:
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From the side:
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I think your face passes really well Devin. I think the short hair suits you, I'm just not too sure about the straight across cut at the front. It looks too neat in my opinion. Maybe a messy kinda fringe would help. I'm not too sure though. You look great, and the eyebrows don't look feminine at all.
Joey
Quote from: Joey4 on January 27, 2013, 02:09:07 PM
I think your face passes really well Devin. I think the short hair suits you, I'm just not too sure about the straight across cut at the front. It looks too neat in my opinion.
What if I were to walk around like this?
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Quote from: Devin87 on January 27, 2013, 02:38:17 PM
What if I were to walk around like this?
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You pass Devin :)
And this is a good picture of you ^_^
Good pic Devin haha.
I'm constantly trying out new looks to see if I could pass. I'm pre T but this is my current look and style:
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Any passing tips or comments? Ignore the stupid face haha.
Joey
it's boiling hot here at the moment so i hope i pass wearing a tank
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oh and joey the only tip i can give is, id loose the justin beiber hair cut
You pass completey Justin. Ah I'm gutted you said that haha, I only recently got it cut and this is the shortest I've ever had it. Thanks for the advice though.
Joey
Quote from: Joey4 on January 27, 2013, 07:09:39 PM
Good pic Devin haha.
I'm constantly trying out new looks to see if I could pass. I'm pre T but this is my current look and style:
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Any passing tips or comments? Ignore the stupid face haha.
Joey
I'd agree with Justin. If you get it cut shorter it might help!
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Getting it cut this short does help! I pass way more often after I get It cut
sweet hair cut connor :)
connor: id say you pass less with it super short but thats just my opinion
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Any better in uniform?
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i still think the really short hair and thin eyebrows (which probably isnt your fault) hinder your passing
Connor, I have a good eye for spotting a trans person and have done so many times when I visit the city. If I seen you in public I would think you were a cis male teen boy...I wouldn't even question it.
Connor I can't see how anyone can see you as anything but male. Looking badass in the uniform :)
Thanks guys! I'm hoping T will do wonders for me:)
@ty I've always had really thin and light eyebrows:(
Connor, your eyebrows are fine. They may get thicker on T, but as they are now, they're fine because of the tighter space between them and your eyes. The further/higher the brows are from the eyes, the more feminine and thinner they appear. Just occurred to me that this might be why some drag queens glue down their eye brows and redraw them on higher! Totally going to go ask a friend now.
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I pass most of the time to random strangers, just nowhere near my age. My hair is longer than normal, I don't know if I should get it cut off again or not.
Quote from: spacerace on January 27, 2013, 11:08:20 PM
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I pass most of the time to random strangers, just nowhere near my age. My hair is longer than normal, I don't know if I should get it cut off again or not.
If I remember what you look like correctly, I think parted looks more awkward that your usual haircut and I wouldn't keep it, especially if you aren't planning growing facial hair.
Quote from: JasonRX on January 27, 2013, 11:12:22 PM
If I remember what you look like correctly, I think parted looks more awkward that your usual haircut and I wouldn't keep it, especially if you aren't planning growing facial hair.
I always appreciate how honest you are about passing pictures Jason. It's very helpful. My facial hair is still too sparse and patchy, so I shave every few days.
Here's shorter, several months back before it grew out.
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Quote from: spacerace on January 27, 2013, 11:16:38 PM
I always appreciate how honest you are about passing pictures Jason. It's very helpful. My facial hair is still too sparse and patchy, so I shave every few days.
Here's shorter, several months back before it grew out.
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You pass better with it like this:) your newer style looks 80ish, reminds me of the breakfast club :p
i agree with connor, you look like a guy i went to school with :)
Quote from: Connor Stanford on January 27, 2013, 08:07:54 PM
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Getting it cut this short does help! I pass way more often after I get It cut
Wow... This is the most magical thread ever :O everyone passes. And you look good Connor :) Kind of like Jimmy from the video game Bully.
You pass as well Joey ^_^ I actually think your haircut is fine, but maybe the others have a point, the shorter the more guyish.
Quote from: Connor Stanford on January 27, 2013, 08:07:54 PM
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Getting it cut this short does help! I pass way more often after I get It cut
You kinda remind me of a Marine I knew in much younger days :)
Quote from: V M on January 28, 2013, 02:43:53 AM
You kinda remind me of a Marine I knew in much younger days :)
Strangely, I get that a lot :D
Quote from: kyh on January 28, 2013, 02:36:12 AM
And you look good Connor :) Kind of like Jimmy from the video game Bully.
First thing I thought as well ;)
tvc you are really cute! :o I love your hair! And your passing is perfect!
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how old do i look?
i am passing at school all the time and i am passing at work as well so im not too worried about passing, but i am worried about how old i look.
also i sort of want to get my hair cut does anyone have any suggestions ?
Quote from: dylanjakoby on January 28, 2013, 08:30:58 PM
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how old do i look?
i am passing at school all the time and i am passing at work as well so im not too worried about passing, but i am worried about how old i look.
also i sort of want to get my hair cut does anyone have any suggestions ?
...I'm wearing that sweatshirt right now. Dude you rock.
I'd peg you at around 13 or 14, but I'm terrible at judging. It's common for guys to not look their age until they've been on T for quite a while, so I wouldn't fret too much over looking young. No suggestions on a cut, though I have to say even the one you have now is cool.
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on January 28, 2013, 09:08:56 PM
...I'm wearing that sweatshirt right now. Dude you rock.
I'd peg you at around 13 or 14, but I'm terrible at judging. It's common for guys to not look their age until they've been on T for quite a while, so I wouldn't fret too much over looking young. No suggestions on a cut, though I have to say even the one you have now is cool.
isnt it the greatest sweatshirt ever????
sd;lfkasf i am almost 20 haha.
I'd say 15...
BAZINGA!
Really it is- greatest sweatshirt for an awesome show. My mother tells me that I'm a combination of Leonard and Sheldon :P
And I know the feeling. A rather rude endocrinologist told me the other day that she would think I was 12 if she saw me on the street. Not allowed to post my age here, but I can assure you that I'm older than that. Though I'd believe 13-16 if you said it, just leaning towards the lower end.
Full body shot.
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How am I looking?
Quote from: Darrin Scott on January 30, 2013, 01:34:09 PM
How am I looking?
Looking good there. ;D
I might just want to steal your shoes, they're quite lovely.
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Agh, I always look so happy with my default face.(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi170.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu276%2FTossuSama%2FHPIM0192jdhljafbaf_zps6453975d.jpg&hash=b5bbfc7c317fa97aa95349afde8f500cd8105464)
Don't know if that's any better, though. But I do like how my arms are starting to look like. Muscle definition spotted!
Looks good!
Darrin: Awesome shoes.
Tossu-Sama: You look great. I'd like to steal your hat :P I'm chuckling because my default face is so not happy.
Ok so not very long ago I posted my inaugural 'do I pass'. I was wearing a nose stud, and the overwhelming consensus was that that was not helping me. So I got a hoop. So...how about now! Also I'm growing out my eyebrows. It's...it's not going great so far. Who knew that plucking was potentially doing them in...
I'm pre-everything and flat out can't pass so far. I really really think my voice is the main culprit, but any tips on the look would be helpful ;D
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ford: once the eyebrows grow in i think your appearance will pass fine. the voice is a tricky situation though..
ford: changing to a hoop helped :)
i agree with Ty.
Quote from: ford on January 30, 2013, 08:17:35 PM
Ok so not very long ago I posted my inaugural 'do I pass'. I was wearing a nose stud, and the overwhelming consensus was that that was not helping me. So I got a hoop. So...how about now! Also I'm growing out my eyebrows. It's...it's not going great so far. Who knew that plucking was potentially doing them in...
I'm pre-everything and flat out can't pass so far. I really really think my voice is the main culprit, but any tips on the look would be helpful ;D
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I think you pass pretty well; you actually kinda look like your avatar :laugh: Your eyebrows aren't bad, I mean, I have very little to none yet I feel I pass most of the time. The nose ring helps, your hair style's good to go. Hrm. I don't think there's any tips I could give on your appearance.
As it's been said before, the voice is a bitch to get down, but if you practice enough you'll eventually get it to a level that seems at least gay boy-ish. And T will definitely help ^^ Good luck
So, this is me on T for two weeks. My confidence has gone way up and it's easy to tell ^^
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Quote from: alecto.rejoice on January 30, 2013, 11:50:39 PM
the voice is a bitch to get down, but if you practice enough you'll eventually get it to a level that seems at least gay boy-ish. And T will definitely help ^^
HA :) this is where I'm at now! Sort of! I've got it down pretty well... Until I get excited or have to call out, then I get all jazzhands lol
Quote from: alecto.rejoice on January 30, 2013, 11:50:39 PM
I think you pass pretty well; you actually kinda look like your avatar :laugh: Your eyebrows aren't bad, I mean, I have very little to none yet I feel I pass most of the time. The nose ring helps, your hair style's good to go. Hrm. I don't think there's any tips I could give on your appearance.
As it's been said before, the voice is a bitch to get down, but if you practice enough you'll eventually get it to a level that seems at least gay boy-ish. And T will definitely help ^^ Good luck
So, this is me on T for two weeks. My confidence has gone way up and it's easy to tell ^^
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You look super good Alecto :) already so much progress in just 2 weeks. I think you look passable.
Quote from: kyh on January 31, 2013, 09:54:31 PM
You look super good Alecto :) already so much progress in just 2 weeks. I think you look passable.
I'm inclined to agree. You have a strong jawline that works in your favor, despite the non-eyebrows :D
Quote from: ford on January 30, 2013, 08:17:35 PM
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your hair is much better i actually really like it in that picture pre T it was my voice that made me not pass. T really helped me with passing also my voice dropped a bit in the forst month.
thanks for the thoughts everyone!
anibioman: Yay better hair! I got it pretty much as short as my stylist was willing to go, then I took the scissors to the sideburn thingies and cut them straight across. Pretty huge improvement imo :)
Quote from: ford on January 31, 2013, 10:38:15 PM
thanks for the thoughts everyone!
anibioman: Yay better hair! I got it pretty much as short as my stylist was willing to go, then I took the scissors to the sideburn thingies and cut them straight across. Pretty huge improvement imo :)
You look good too ford :D If at the moment, you don't pass completely to others, then it's just a matter of time. Your face already looks quite male (and good looking :3 )
Ok, I'm not technically asking whether or not I pass... but it's not badass either, so I opted for this topic over the other. It's just for the sake of comparison. I went to the DMV a couple of days ago to get a new license. I am kind of in love with the change that's happened in the last two years.
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I can't see ford's pic :(.
Quote from: democration on February 02, 2013, 05:47:25 PM
Ok, I'm not technically asking whether or not I pass... but it's not badass either, so I opted for this topic over the other. It's just for the sake of comparison. I went to the DMV a couple of days ago to get a new license. I am kind of in love with the change that's happened in the last two years.
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Wow! You look great!
Quote from: DeeperThanSwords on February 02, 2013, 06:13:55 PM
I can't see ford's pic :(.
sorry bout that...I delete them pretty fast since it seems to take photobucket forever to purge its servers, so I'm never sure how long they'll hang around. Paranoia thing. You'll have to wait till the next round 8)
democration: now YOU have some enviable eyebrows. I'm going through major eyebrow envy these days. You look good...are you on T at all?
Quote from: ford on February 02, 2013, 06:22:50 PM
sorry bout that...I delete them pretty fast since it seems to take photobucket forever to purge its servers, so I'm never sure how long they'll hang around. Paranoia thing. You'll have to wait till the next round 8)
Fair enough. :)
<3
Quote from: ford on February 02, 2013, 06:22:50 PM
democration: now YOU have some enviable eyebrows. I'm going through major eyebrow envy these days. You look good...are you on T at all?
I actually just had my first shot yesterday. ; )
Maybe some of you remember me asking about my earrings earlier, I just did some ear shots. Finally I got back my camera and did this shot:
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So what do you think, can I pass with them or will I?
Jared, from what I can see your earrings look fine. Really can't tell what they are. I will say your face looks more angler and you pass better than you did just a few weeks ago.
Quote from: Jared on February 04, 2013, 02:33:20 PM
Maybe some of you remember me asking about my earrings earlier, I just did some ear shots. Finally I got back my camera and did this shot:
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So what do you think, can I pass with them or will I?
I think you look good, I like your hairdo. I don't know if it's your kind of thing, but I think you'd suit flesh tunnels in your earlobes that are maybe 1.5x bigger than the diameter of those earrings.
Jared,
I agree with the previous: I don't think the earrings effect your ability to pass. Your hair's looking good btw.
Quote from: Simon on February 04, 2013, 05:55:27 PM
Jared, from what I can see your earrings look fine. Really can't tell what they are. I will say your face looks more angler and you pass better than you did just a few weeks ago.
I think he might have been suffering from the "puffy face" like most of do when were a month to a few months into HRT.
Quote from: Simon on February 04, 2013, 05:55:27 PM
Jared, from what I can see your earrings look fine. Really can't tell what they are. I will say your face looks more angler and you pass better than you did just a few weeks ago.
Yep, I hope it's really starting to kick in :D and thanks, I'm happy my earrings don't hinder my passing.
Quote from: DeeperThanSwords on February 04, 2013, 10:08:58 PM
I think you look good, I like your hairdo. I don't know if it's your kind of thing, but I think you'd suit flesh tunnels in your earlobes that are maybe 1.5x bigger than the diameter of those earrings.
Thanks :) lol true, I asked it cause my dad made comments about how they hinder my passing.
Quote from: ford on February 04, 2013, 11:11:21 PM
Jared,
I agree with the previous: I don't think the earrings effect your ability to pass. Your hair's looking good btw.
Thanks again.
Quote from: JasonRX on February 05, 2013, 05:44:45 AM
I think he might have been suffering from the "puffy face" like most of do when were a month to a few months into HRT.
Actually I don't think I'm suffering from it, it's much better than my pre-T skin and bone face. I also gained some weight and I'm really happy about it, I weighed much less than the average female should.
I keep seeing female. It's hard for me to see male most of the time.
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Quote from: Darrin Scott on February 10, 2013, 04:17:34 PM
I keep seeing female. It's hard for me to see male most of the time.
How?? Lol. Seriously though, you do pass. You have nothing to worry about. Methinks it's dysphoria rearing it's head on you.
Quote from: Caleb. on February 10, 2013, 04:21:30 PM
How?? Lol. Seriously though, you do pass. You have nothing to worry about. Methinks it's dysphoria rearing it's head on you.
This x 10000. Not seeing anything remotely female here bro.
...I might put up a pic later on just because I finally have boy's jeans and it's laundry day so I can freely pick what I think will help my miserable attempts at passing :P
I agree with the above, darrin there is zero way you don't pass, I don't even see a hint of anything else
Darrin, you look all male. Stop overthinking because it's all in your head man.
Darrin you pass completely 100% to me.
I got some new glasses, tried a different style with my hair and I feel like I'm making small steps in the right direction. This is how I look at the minute
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1294.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb602%2Fjoey4441%2FIMAG1178_zps84ffa29f.jpg&hash=c90b27bd25c8fc49f0e3c2144df503d448742521)
Joey
Okay I know this isn't a full body shot but still (http://i.imgur.com/QA-%3E-bleeped-%3C-K1.jpg)
In a sort of life-hating mood because the stupid worker in my building called me "darling" and my dad and the waiter in the diner near my house were having a back and forth conversation about my food over my head using female pronouns because everyone thinks I'm a little kid. But my biased opinion thinks that looks like a boy face. Some objective ones to balance it out, please?
Edit: This one isn't a head shot lol (http://i.imgur.com/GKDgkG6.jpg)
Also, yes that is a Woodstock shirt and it is awesome.
joey: glasses are awesome! id say go with a slightly shorter haircut. not as far as a buzz but i think the "sweeping" hair or whatever it called lol is sorta hindering your passing. jus my honest opinion
Joey - you look pretty good to me, I think you'd suit a sort of quiff though, but that's just my opinion, and I'm pretty bad with hair stuff.
Liminal Stranger - I can see you as male easier than female, but It could go either way, especially if it was in a setting where your age is obvious - I'm assuming you're not actually 13. Is the hair mostly, but I can see some resemblance to Nick Drake.
Joey, I like those glasses a lot better but I agree that a bit of a shorter haircut would suit you more.
Lim, I tried looking at your pictures, but my browser can't open them. I think I just need to download another browser.
Quote from: Darrin Scott on February 10, 2013, 04:17:34 PM
I keep seeing female. It's hard for me to see male most of the time.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv386%2Fisnt_anything%2F5CE62337-EE27-46E3-A36E-D87C5D59A2E0-5316-0000053F2AF12051_zps0ad605b8.jpg&hash=36d0ebdcfe80e77f9ce88bbed392f0c56915daa4)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv386%2Fisnt_anything%2F1CCBDA02-9AA3-44EC-B40B-E5E97E38FF60-5316-0000053F2BAA8B0D_zpsad5fd934.jpg&hash=8abe452b166741eff03f086bcf353109c143306f)
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I only see a cool man.
Thanks for the replies, guys. I really want to pass better but my face is too young and I have this stupid female-looking shape. Someday I'll actually pass in clothes that aren't four sizes too big on me.
Quote from: LearnedHand on February 11, 2013, 03:30:57 PM
Joey, I like those glasses a lot better but I agree that a bit of a shorter haircut would suit you more.
Lim, I tried looking at your pictures, but my browser can't open them. I think I just need to download another browser.
What browser are you using? I'll try putting them up elsewhere.
I am using internet explorer, I should download firefox or googlechrome. I have tons of problems with IE, like typing on pdf forms and only to print them and come out blank >:( . Apparantly, that's only an IE problem.
I need to get better fitting clothes to pass better myself, I've never looked so skinny in my life.
Quote from: LearnedHand on February 11, 2013, 03:51:01 PM
I am using internet explorer, I should download firefox or googlechrome. I have tons of problems with IE, like typing on pdf forms and only to print them and come out blank >:( . Apparantly, that's only an IE problem.
I need to get better fitting clothes to pass better myself, I've never looked so skinny in my life.
Oh man, IE is a swirling vortex of doom. It's so slow that the only thing it can catch is viruses. Definitely get firefox or chrome. The site is imgur but I'll try another later if I stop being lazy.
I posted pics many months before, and since I've been on T now for about 14 weeks was wondering what you guys thought about my passing now. Taken I think last week or so.....
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi47.tinypic.com%2Fw881l0.jpg&hash=241309e094b609d8b358905db05201ee715d30cc)
Quote from: Kyle_S on February 12, 2013, 10:27:24 AM
I posted pics many months before, and since I've been on T now for about 14 weeks was wondering what you guys thought about my passing now. Taken I think last week or so.....
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi47.tinypic.com%2Fw881l0.jpg&hash=241309e094b609d8b358905db05201ee715d30cc)
I'd say pass, but for a young guy. I'd say about 12-15. But then again, the lighting is funny and I cant see your face well.
Quote from: Kyle_S on February 12, 2013, 10:27:24 AM
I posted pics many months before, and since I've been on T now for about 14 weeks was wondering what you guys thought about my passing now. Taken I think last week or so.....
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi47.tinypic.com%2Fw881l0.jpg&hash=241309e094b609d8b358905db05201ee715d30cc)
Looks good!
So, does my butt pass? lol Brutal honesty, this isn't like your gf asking if you thinks she's fat. :P Pants look fine from the front, but I think my butt is too girly for these pants (bought them anyway, but will just wear long shirts for now).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1337.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo665%2FLearnedHand1%2F2013-02-13_15-19-41_86_zps7ab980bb.jpg&hash=99692f7ec036d2505de001b7bbb7a2c17275ec57)
And, since I had a big mirror, took a picture from the front. I know I don't pass (my favorite hobo still calls me "miss", but I've been getting some weird looks in the girls room), though I usually wear glasses which I know are girly, but I have to wait a month or two more before my insurance will cover new glasses.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1337.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo665%2FLearnedHand1%2F2013-02-13_15-22-38_878_zps8cd669c3.jpg&hash=f1346d642b808b0cbb88798dccbe6b5fc12162db)
In all honesty, I don't think your butt passes, sorry. I think they come in too tight around the thighs and the way they kinda flare back out again makes it look kinda feminine. On the plus side, I think your face passes really well and your front. You just look like an average teenage guy to me.
Joey
Quote from: Joey4 on February 13, 2013, 07:52:22 PM
In all honesty, I don't think your butt passes, sorry. I think they come in too tight around the thighs and the way they kinda flare back out again makes it look kinda feminine.
Joey
Yeah that's kinda what I think too, but I haven't been able to find any pants so far that doesn't do that, I think I am stuck until I find the perfect cut, and when I find those pants I am buying all of them they have in my size.
I tend to go for the baggy straight down jeans, and get them one size bigger and wear a belt just so that it doesn't emphasize my butt and thighs. Maybe you could try that? I only ever buy guys jeans now as well and avoid any tight fitting jeans. I did exactly what you did and bought every pair of my size they had in store haha.
Joey
Quote from: Joey4 on February 13, 2013, 07:58:42 PM
I tend to go for the baggy straight down jeans, and get them one size bigger and wear a belt just so that it doesn't emphasize my butt and thighs. Maybe you could try that? I only ever buy guys jeans now as well and avoid any tight fitting jeans. I did exactly what you did and bought every pair of my size they had in store haha.
Joey
^^ same. The larger size allows the pockets to sort of hang, and it really flattens out the butt.
what's wrong with guys that have a nice butt?
A guy with a flat rear is kinda unattractive imo.
you guys break down your figure way too much, lol.
i know plenty of gay men(twinks) i hate because they're bio and still have a girlier figure than i do and they still pass as male no doubt.
Your look is really andro to me LearnedHand, I would believe what you would tell me about your gender. I don't think your butt would be a problem just don't wear that tight jeans, guys don't tend to wear them I think.
Yeah your jean is too tight. For the morphology, it is not luck :/ (I have the same "problem". I hate my butt and my hips).
It gets a little better with T.
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/7183/wp000310c.jpg (http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/7183/wp000310c.jpg)
I know, I know, crappy bathroom shot ;D
Was tempted to take a full body shot of undergarments just because I have guy ones now but I decided against it just in case I missed something in the ToS about that. So, no showing off of the emperor's new clothes.
I really feel manly these past few days. And it's making me pass, and that's boosting my manly ego. I like this cycle :3
Edit: Sorry for the weird lighting- looking at that pic now and it almost looks like I'm wearing something dark under it :/
Also excuse my freaking scrawny arms :P
@LearnedHand plenty of guys out there wear tight jeans you just have slightly larger hips than most. I think your face looks andro to teen guy though.
@Liminal The angle and lighting aren't perfect of course but I think you have good facial structure and I personally like your hair.
Max, you belong in the badass thread.
Max you look good, I'd say passing.
Quote from: insideontheoutside on February 15, 2013, 12:26:22 AM
@LearnedHand plenty of guys out there wear tight jeans you just have slightly larger hips than most.
I wore them yesterday and they seemed to have loosened up some, so I like the fit better now.
Haha, thanks guys. I didn't even think that was the manliest pic I could muster but that's how I look irl so better to do an accurate representation. I like the hair too, makes me feel like a boss passing with long hair pre-T. Can't wait to go on it someday and see what that does to the facial structure :P
@LH Glad to hear you like the jeans better now. From what I've been told they tend to do that from being "broken in". The fit looks tighter than I'd expect a guy to wear in that pic, but still not overly feminine. You're looking pretty awesome man!
haircut and new jeans, pass?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg831.imageshack.us%2Fimg831%2F8890%2Fphoto45nm.jpg&hash=3417e07a9644e5a44d14e78c84d1956a067f193b)
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Ty you pass, I expect the ladies to be crawling all over you soon. :D
More than pass! You're pretty cute.
Ty you are really always handsome!
Finally got the nerve to post here. I pass about 50/50, you guys got any tips for me?
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Quote from: CursedFire on February 17, 2013, 06:22:32 PM
Finally got the nerve to post here. I pass about 50/50, you guys got any tips for me?
Hmm.... it's kind of a hard one, because I think there's really no easy fixes here. For some reason I want to say that you should try other glasses, because I think they make your face seem a little softer, but I've seen bio-males wearing similiar glasses. Maybe next time you need glasses, try on some different styles? I think working on your arms will help you a lot, just having a stronger and more defined figure will probably help you pass a lot more.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Fe6fb98e8b371b24e4fbd7bce26d5f736%2Ftumblr_mibxwh3W3g1qal7xro1_1280.jpg&hash=8cd087e52fdced0791a1f1be95f3b4904f31702e)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ff005e663970ed2cd8670931ab88a64b6%2Ftumblr_mic3uwZKP31qal7xro1_1280.jpg&hash=50041e718f3f7b5e57941024f8bfe1416dfb3403)
This is me, and what I was wearing when I was misgendered the other day.
And this is what I sounded like (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/46312417/recording-20130217-193145.mp3)
Nygeel, I am shocked that you were misgendered! You look so manly, especially with your facial hair, and your voice sounds very male to me. Your clothes seem very male too, so I have no idea why anyone would misgender you.
Edit: is this happening at places where there's a lot of lesbians?
Quote from: LearnedHand on February 17, 2013, 06:36:44 PM
Nygeel, I am shocked that you were misgendered! You look so manly, especially with your facial hair, and your voice sounds very male to me. Your clothes seem very male too, so I have no idea why anyone would misgender you.
Neither do I but it happens about once a week now.
yeah nygeel i seriously cant see how anyone would think you weren't a guy
you totally look like a guy! I have no idea how you were misgendered!
The only thing I can think of is maybe the earrings?
Happened at Macy's the other day when I made a return. Mostly when I'm out of the house it's for work stuff so that's like...an electronics store.
Edit to add: or sometimes taco bell because I'm a sucker for taco bell.
Nygeel, Do you happen to live near or in a city with a large gay and lesbian population? If so, that could be why you have a hard time being misgendered. I went through the same when I lived in Northern Jersey. This was twelve years ago but no matter what I did I couldn't pass to save my life. Then I'd go out of the city for the weekend and never had a problem. In my experience people in larger more populated areas are used to seeing masculine women/feminine men and question gender far more often than country bumpkins who doubt transsexuals even exist outside of Jerry Springer.
I'm near NYC but in a conservative part of my state (which is where this is happening).
Nygeel ... yeah you totally look male. Did you get your name change on your ID/cards (can't remember if you did)? That of course could do it if you were returning something and had to show ID or anything.
I'd like to just see inside people's brains sometimes to figure out what makes them think female over male. I could see when you didn't have any facial hair at all how people could screw it up, but now? Boggling.
Dean-- for me I think your shirt isn't the best. It's got really short sleeves that remind me of a baby tee. When I imagine a t-shirt with longer sleeves or a hoodie or something, I think you'd look like a pre-teen or possibly young teenage boy. Another easy tip is try to stand with your legs a little apart. I know I see a lot of men stand in all kinds of ways, so it's not like it's not manly to have your legs together, but for us, it helps mask the hips and give a slightly more male appearance if we're cognizant of how we're standing. Keep them slightly apart with your weight balanced between to the two feet as much as possible. Like Nygeel's standing in his picture.
But you're definitely in a good place. The hair looks right. The glasses don't hinder you passing to me, at least. And you've got a very androgynous, if young looking, face and body. So you're in a good spot right now.
Quote from: insideontheoutside on February 17, 2013, 07:50:31 PM
Nygeel ... yeah you totally look male. Did you get your name change on your ID/cards (can't remember if you did)? That of course could do it if you were returning something and had to show ID or anything.
I'd like to just see inside people's brains sometimes to figure out what makes them think female over male. I could see when you didn't have any facial hair at all how people could screw it up, but now? Boggling.
They didn't see ID or a credit card or anything before misgendering me (and actually didn't see it after either). I haven't had the name and/or gender marker change yet because it's pricey here even with a waiver. I think I trimmed my facial hair a week or two ago. I shaved my upper lip a couple days ago because it gets to a point where it looks and feels weird. In general I don't shave my face (other than my mustache area). It would happen when I had long chops too.
Hey, this is my first post in here. I thought I'd ask for passing tips, since I'm misgendered about 99% of the time :\
Pic 1 (http://24.media.tumblr.com/be6e6a62c84f3f2715ebfaf0e6429928/tumblr_mgg4z65gvb1s32817o1_1280.jpg)
Pic 2 (https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/304142_317917204995840_1072010815_n.jpg)
I'm 20 years old and I've been on T for almost 4 months now. My voice has deepened a little bit, but its in a range between low female and high male? I don't have any recordings of my voice, but I'm told by a few people that my voice is pretty androgynous.
Apparently I passed better when I was pre!T and my hair was a bit longer in the front? Because I had a particularly funny situation where I asked a man for directions once, but he wasn't looking at me. As he started to say "ma'am" he turned around, saw me, and stopped mid-word. I'm pretty sure because he was confused if I was a "ma'am" or not. Nowadays, though, I don't get any sort of reaction like that. Everyone calls me by female pronouns despite my name being "Vinnie" as well as my blatantly male form of dressing.
Sadly, if I cut my hair too short I end up looking like a twelve year old butch lesbian (https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/545396_272315086222719_1159927009_n.jpg) so I know cutting my hair won't help at all. (Though that picture is pre!T).
Ugh. Any help?
Quote from: vinnie413 on February 21, 2013, 02:40:39 AM
Hey, this is my first post in here. I thought I'd ask for passing tips, since I'm misgendered about 99% of the time :\
Pic 1 (http://24.media.tumblr.com/be6e6a62c84f3f2715ebfaf0e6429928/tumblr_mgg4z65gvb1s32817o1_1280.jpg)
Pic 2 (https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/304142_317917204995840_1072010815_n.jpg)
I'm 20 years old and I've been on T for almost 4 months now. My voice has deepened a little bit, but its in a range between low female and high male? I don't have any recordings of my voice, but I'm told by a few people that my voice is pretty androgynous.
Apparently I passed better when I was pre!T and my hair was a bit longer in the front? Because I had a particularly funny situation where I asked a man for directions once, but he wasn't looking at me. As he started to say "ma'am" he turned around, saw me, and stopped mid-word. I'm pretty sure because he was confused if I was a "ma'am" or not. Nowadays, though, I don't get any sort of reaction like that. Everyone calls me by female pronouns despite my name being "Vinnie" as well as my blatantly male form of dressing.
Sadly, if I cut my hair too short I end up looking like a twelve year old butch lesbian (https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/545396_272315086222719_1159927009_n.jpg) so I know cutting my hair won't help at all. (Though that picture is pre!T).
Ugh. Any help?
Actually I think you pass better with the "12 year old butch lesbian" look :'D Maybe cause your haircolour is more natural to me.
Aaaand a quick question:
How old do I look?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPeimEhG.jpg%3F1&hash=20db9d09d59eb4f4f57d975d856fbb2cb6d04fba)
I bought beer today and wasn't carded and didn't get any weird look, is it possible that I look at least 18?
Thanks
Quote from: Jared on February 21, 2013, 08:42:45 AM
Aaaand a quick question:
How old do I look?
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I bought beer today and wasn't carded and didn't get any weird look, is it possible that I look at least 18?
Thanks
21 :3
Really or just because my profile says 21? :D
Quote from: Jared on February 21, 2013, 08:50:37 AM
Really or just because my profile says 21? :D
I didn't actually look at your profile! So really :)
Vinnie: I agree with Jared, the "12 year old butch" look passes better.
Jared: I wouldn't question if you said you were 18. I'd put you at anywhere from 17 to about 20.
Quote from: Geek on February 21, 2013, 09:28:04 AM
I didn't actually look at your profile! So really :)
You have a talent to guess ages ;D
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on February 21, 2013, 09:28:27 AM
Vinnie: I agree with Jared, the "12 year old butch" look passes better.
Jared: I wouldn't question if you said you were 18. I'd put you at anywhere from 17 to about 20.
Thanks, looks like I grew out the 12-16 range :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLTVzMy3.jpg&hash=c471f0f8d076c52cf00ca1cc069898bfcfcd6d92)
Sorry for the poor lighting. The computer labs at school don't have the best lights.
I just got misgendered in class today, but I guess my voice really is that horrible. At least it was minor? A girl sitting next to me asked if 'Chris' (what I write on all of my papers) was for 'Christine' when she was adding me to her phone so I can help her with classwork. At least she didn't look too weirded out when I told her that 'Chris' was just for 'Chris'.
Your face is again a little bit feminine in spite of the very male haircut. The passing will come, does not worry you! You have a good potential.
I don't know what makes me think about your face. But you're close to pass.
Quote from: Zarathoustra on February 21, 2013, 01:08:47 PM
Your face is again a little bit feminine in spite of the very male haircut. The passing will come, does not worry you! You have a good potential.
This gives me hope. Thank you. :D
Quote from: Siege on February 21, 2013, 02:53:01 PM
This gives me hope. Thank you. :D
And hope you should! To me, the fullness of your lips and shape of your eyebrows stands out. The hairline somewhat does but I don't think it would cause too much of a problem on its own. I think it'll work out given a little time.
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And hope you should! To me, the fullness of your lips and shape of your eyebrows stands out. The hairline somewhat does but I don't think it would cause too much of a problem on its own. I think it'll work out given a little time.
Not much I can do about my lips, unfortunately, but I have NO IDEA as to what I should do with these stupid eyebrows. They're actually a lot thicker than they used to be, but any attempt I make to even them out and appear more masculine just looks like I drew my eyebrows on. :\
Thanks for the input, guys. I don't know, I really disagree that shorter hair will work better. When I had that short hair, I constantly had emotional breakdowns about it because I hated how it made me look way more feminine than my longer hair did, and I had to wait several months for it to grow back and have me look more masculine. So I'm really not going to go that route anyway.
But thanks, though. I'll just keep an eye out for other haircuts that I'll try out.
I get what you're saying dude. When I was pre-T I posted pics of myself with short hair, and longer, shaggy hair. People said I looked/passed better with it really short, but I didn't see that at all. Thought it emphasized feminine features more. The longer hair made me more confident and I preferred it so that's what I went with. After starting T, I got it cut super short again a few times but I always end up growing it back out.
FWIW you passed OK with both lengths, to me.. But the color wasn't doing you much favors.
Siege, you look male to me, the only reason I'd clock you is from a high voice.
@Kyle_S: Hard to tell
@LearnedHand: I can't really tell when it come to the male or female butt. But it looks fine to me. 2nd pic is a no pass for me, sorry.
@Liminal Stranger: can't see the pic, maybe you already took it down.
@ty.to.the.man: Total pass.
@Dean: hard to tell. Maybe wear a shirt that is more masculine than unisex. That's something I had to work on. I used to and sometimes still do wear unisex clothing.
@Nygeel: You pass man. I don't see how your getting mis-gendered especially with the facial hair. BTW, I'm loving your facial hair. How long did it take you to grow that out?
@vinnie413: No pass, sorry.
@Jared: I'd say 15-18 years old.
@Siege: Hard to tell.
Quote from: Dominick_81 on February 21, 2013, 09:20:57 PM
@Nygeel: You pass man. I don't see how your getting mis-gendered especially with the facial hair. BTW, I'm loving your facial hair. How long did it take you to grow that out?
I really don't know. I do a trim every now and then. The last time I trimmed I used clippers that are used on a head instead of a face. I think I used like a #1 and that had to be at the beginning of the month.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Fd16c89ff4c7f323a38f6bed0f4193280%2Ftumblr_mihxztL3jI1qal7xro1_1280.jpg&hash=7f00d3ea9842522dcb3caaa054c6ed17e369e81e)
It's mostly long as opposed to dense.
@ Nygeel: Yeah, my facial hair grows long like that too. I don't have anything to trim my facial hair so I just shave it all off when it gets too long. But I'm thinking about getting something to trim my facial hair instead of having to shave it all off. Your facial hair is looking really good though. And you sound 100% male.
Okay, here are some of my comparison photos. Do I look any different? My cousins tell me I look exactly the same as I did pre-T. What do you guy think?
I don't see how you aren't passing 100%. Your facial features definitely look more masculine in the newer pics, but I'd say you looked male even in the pre-T ones.
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on February 21, 2013, 10:32:37 PM
I don't see how you aren't passing 100%. Your facial features definitely look more masculine in the newer pics, but I'd say you looked male even in the pre-T ones.
Thanks. :) I think I looked like a girl pre-t with my long hair. It was very rare when I passed with it pre-T. I think I passed like twice that I can recall.
Quote from: Nygeel on February 21, 2013, 09:56:46 PM
I really don't know. I do a trim every now and then. The last time I trimmed I used clippers that are used on a head instead of a face. I think I used like a #1 and that had to be at the beginning of the month.
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It's mostly long as opposed to dense.
Nice. My facial hair isn't too dense either, actually mine looks pretty identical to yours but you seem to have coverage going further up your chin (towards your bottom lip) than I do. I use hair clippers as well (1/2" guard). I would like this beard trimmer I saw at Wal-Mart because it has a 1/2" guard but I can't justify spending 20 bucks on something when I don't trim too often and I have the hair clippers. The only advantage of the actual beard trimmer vs hair clippers is that the beard trimmer is narrower so it would allow more precise trimming, it's hard for me to trim because my hair is so long I'm worried about accidentally cutting part of it off.
dom i don't know how you aren't passing dude. your face has hardened significantly since starting T :)
Quote from: Nygeel on February 17, 2013, 06:34:06 PM
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This is me, and what I was wearing when I was misgendered the other day.
And this is what I sounded like (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/46312417/recording-20130217-193145.mp3)
dude, the way you look and sound passes 1,000,000% IMO!!! i'm seriously loving how fast your changes have come lately. I know it's been rough these past 2 years waiting for results, but you look and sound FANTASTIC! You getting misgendered must have been some sort of fluke because there's nothing female about you. Your voice seriously sounds great, very clear and masculine and your facial hair looks thicker each time you post a new pic. I hope you're enjoying yourself because your patience has most definitely been rewarded :D!!!
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I know I pass on a regular basis, but summer is upon us and I was wondering how I pass in these tank tops I just bought. I've yet to wear them out to really know, but I was wondering what you guys think.
Quote from: Geek on February 22, 2013, 01:55:47 AM
dom i don't know how you aren't passing dude. your face has hardened significantly since starting T :)
Thanks. :) I'm not sure why I'm not passing either.
Quote from: Nygeel on February 17, 2013, 06:34:06 PM
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This is me, and what I was wearing when I was misgendered the other day.
And this is what I sounded like (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/46312417/recording-20130217-193145.mp3)
...Woah. I seriously don't understand how you could've been misgendered - especially with that voice!
Quote from: Darrin Scott on February 22, 2013, 12:31:34 PM
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I know I pass on a regular basis, but summer is upon us and I was wondering how I pass in these tank tops I just bought. I've yet to wear them out to really know, but I was wondering what you guys think.
It looks alright. My only beef is the length. If you can make it a few inches shorter it would look much better. The only issue I have personally with myself wearing horizontal stripes is they can make you look shorter while vertical ones can help make you look taller. Also, having a consistent pattern or coloring helps too (ex: dark shirt, dark trousers).
I'm pre T and it definitely shows :embarrassed: I pass most of the time though, people usually think I'm a 14 yo boy :P
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Quote from: Darkflame on February 22, 2013, 05:25:32 PM
I'm pre T and it definitely shows :embarrassed: I pass most of the time though, people usually think I'm a 14 yo boy :P
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Darkflame,
Yeah you do look young, but you look great especially for pre t
Nygeel, I believe that some people are blind and can't hear good because u look like a man and talk like a man!
@Dominik: I wish you'd read my post. I said I know I don't pass, but I was asking for tips on passing. Simply stating I don't pass is not only redundant, but also kind of mean without offering some help like I asked for. Kinda ruined my day, to be honest.
Does anyone have tips on maximizing my voice deepening now that I'm on T? I've been on for 4 months without any significant change in anything, really. So if you know tips on making my voice go deeper, I'd appreciate it.
Quote from: vinnie413 on February 23, 2013, 12:32:52 PM
@Dominik: I wish you'd read my post. I said I know I don't pass, but I was asking for tips on passing. Simply stating I don't pass is not only redundant, but also kind of mean without offering some help like I asked for. Kinda ruined my day, to be honest.
Does anyone have tips on maximizing my voice deepening now that I'm on T? I've been on for 4 months without any significant change in anything, really. So if you know tips on making my voice go deeper, I'd appreciate it.
Vinnie,
Just my opinion, but I'm thinking maybe the hair color? I thought you passed in the pic you said looked more like a 12 year old....but I personally am thinking it wasn't the cut it was the not bright color. Just my opinion, and I don't know that the color is REALLY it. I don't think you'don't pass' as is actually so this is purely just throwing out something it could be in person to others. Good luck!
Quote from: vinnie413 on February 23, 2013, 12:32:52 PM
Does anyone have tips on maximizing my voice deepening now that I'm on T? I've been on for 4 months without any significant change in anything, really. So if you know tips on making my voice go deeper, I'd appreciate it.
Record yourself with a camera, not just a microphone, so you can see how you project. Hold your hand over your sternum, so you can feel where your voice is vibrating, and practice speaking from your chest not from your throat. At first throwing your voice down will sound odd, but watching yourself you'll see it isn't and it can make you more confident to do it around others.
Quote from: vinnie413 on February 21, 2013, 02:40:39 AM
Hey, this is my first post in here. I thought I'd ask for passing tips, since I'm misgendered about 99% of the time :\
Pic 1 (http://24.media.tumblr.com/be6e6a62c84f3f2715ebfaf0e6429928/tumblr_mgg4z65gvb1s32817o1_1280.jpg)
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I'm 20 years old and I've been on T for almost 4 months now. My voice has deepened a little bit, but its in a range between low female and high male? I don't have any recordings of my voice, but I'm told by a few people that my voice is pretty androgynous.
Apparently I passed better when I was pre!T and my hair was a bit longer in the front? Because I had a particularly funny situation where I asked a man for directions once, but he wasn't looking at me. As he started to say "ma'am" he turned around, saw me, and stopped mid-word. I'm pretty sure because he was confused if I was a "ma'am" or not. Nowadays, though, I don't get any sort of reaction like that. Everyone calls me by female pronouns despite my name being "Vinnie" as well as my blatantly male form of dressing.
Sadly, if I cut my hair too short I end up looking like a twelve year old butch lesbian (https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/545396_272315086222719_1159927009_n.jpg) so I know cutting my hair won't help at all. (Though that picture is pre!T).
Ugh. Any help?
I think the reason why most people will say it's your funky colored hair is because more females seem to dye their hair funky colors than males. Once you start getting noticeable facial hair though I think that would override the funky colored hair. I personally look awful with short hair, so I know where you're coming from there. When I was in my 20s I had my hair all sorts of different colors as well and even when I was wearing all male clothing, or even introducing myself with a male name people would still think female. To me, hair is such a personal thing too and to feel like you have to change it for any reason is a bummer in my book. Most trans people seem to cave and just do what the "accepted norm" is. I'm a total rule-breaker in that department so not exactly the best advice giver!
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Luke R.
18. Pre-everything. (Sorry for crappy picture quality)
Haven't really tried passing in public. Still nervous. Think I'll have any luck?
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Luke R.
18. Pre-everything. (Sorry for crappy picture quality)
Haven't really tried passing in public. Still nervous. Think I'll have any luck?
Dude, you look great for pre T :) I think you'd pass, the glasses definitely help
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My apologies for the crappy selfie. I hate taking photos of myself.
Anyway, I've only just started trying to pass. I know I'm wearing women's jeans, I'm struggling to find any men's ones that fit me at all because I'm 5 foot 1.
I'm pre everything. I seem to be able to pass when it's dark and I lower my voice. xD Any tips?
Lrouk: You look awesome, total pass for me in that picture.
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My apologies for the crappy selfie. I hate taking photos of myself.
Anyway, I've only just started trying to pass. I know I'm wearing women's jeans, I'm struggling to find any men's ones that fit me at all because I'm 5 foot 1.
I'm pre everything. I seem to be able to pass when it's dark and I lower my voice. xD Any tips?
It's kind of a hard picture to tell, but i think getting your hair tapered some on the sides would help, because your haircut kind of looks like a short woman's cut right now. Depending on your waist size, the boy's section might have jeans that fit, I am 5'2" and small waisted and that's where I've been having to go for most things, unless I get lucky and happened to find the one size 28 laying around. If the pants for your waist size are too long, it's not too difficult to hem them.
Quote from: LearnedHand on February 24, 2013, 06:03:08 AM
It's kind of a hard picture to tell, but i think getting your hair tapered some on the sides would help, because your haircut kind of looks like a short woman's cut right now. Depending on your waist size, the boy's section might have jeans that fit, I am 5'2" and small waisted and that's where I've been having to go for most things, unless I get lucky and happened to find the one size 28 laying around. If the pants for your waist size are too long, it's not too difficult to hem them.
My hair is a women's cut, unfortunately. As soon as I move out I will be remedying that!
Boy's section is a really good idea, thanks. :D
Quote from: Dovahkiin on February 24, 2013, 06:12:16 AM
My hair is a women's cut, unfortunately. As soon as I move out I will be remedying that!
Boy's section is a really good idea, thanks. :D
Depending on how big your waist is, Levi boys huskys might fit well. Their husky are different than most other brands and I've found it's the best choice for me- they've got the shorter inseams but smaller adult size waists.
http://imburgerboy.tumblr.com/post/43891769190 (http://imburgerboy.tumblr.com/post/43891769190)
DO I PASS? 9months on T
Quote from: esmail on February 24, 2013, 08:34:17 AM
http://imburgerboy.tumblr.com/post/43891769190 (http://imburgerboy.tumblr.com/post/43891769190)
DO I PASS? 9months on T
Yes, completely.
Quote from: esmail on February 24, 2013, 08:34:17 AM
http://imburgerboy.tumblr.com/post/43891769190 (http://imburgerboy.tumblr.com/post/43891769190)
DO I PASS? 9months on T
Absolutely!
Esmail, you look good. What country are you from? I ask because I think that's a 550D, which was sold in the US as the T2i.
Definite pass man! You look great.
You should head over to the badass thread ;D
i live in sweden. originally from iran :)
Quote from: Lrouk on February 24, 2013, 12:53:04 AM
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Luke R.
18. Pre-everything. (Sorry for crappy picture quality)
Haven't really tried passing in public. Still nervous. Think I'll have any luck?
I usually don't post in this thread, but you look
really good pre-t!
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Luke R.
18. Pre-everything. (Sorry for crappy picture quality)
Haven't really tried passing in public. Still nervous. Think I'll have any luck?
You really look like my half-brother :o absolute pass
Hey folks,
Just wondering what you guys reckon - pass/no pass? I hope the links work...uploading pictures is like trying to draw blood from a stone, lol. On a side note: the fat on my cheeks are getting on my nerves, they make me feel like my face is really feminine, grrrrr.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/cbffecccff1fd207fa2f90bcfbaf913e/tumblr_misgx0f6q91r0eumco1_1280.jpg (http://24.media.tumblr.com/cbffecccff1fd207fa2f90bcfbaf913e/tumblr_misgx0f6q91r0eumco1_1280.jpg)
http://25.media.tumblr.com/47e0ae5ca5cd219b3c3c56d3dada38c9/tumblr_misgx0f6q91r0eumco2_1280.jpg (http://25.media.tumblr.com/47e0ae5ca5cd219b3c3c56d3dada38c9/tumblr_misgx0f6q91r0eumco2_1280.jpg)
http://25.media.tumblr.com/77838343351dffe46fce1e10dcabca56/tumblr_misgx0f6q91r0eumco3_1280.jpg (http://25.media.tumblr.com/77838343351dffe46fce1e10dcabca56/tumblr_misgx0f6q91r0eumco3_1280.jpg)
Jack, you pass really good!
Quote from: _Jack_ on February 25, 2013, 12:38:30 PM
Hey folks,
Just wondering what you guys reckon - pass/no pass? I hope the links work...uploading pictures is like trying to draw blood from a stone, lol. On a side note: the fat on my cheeks are getting on my nerves, they make me feel like my face is really feminine, grrrrr.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/cbffecccff1fd207fa2f90bcfbaf913e/tumblr_misgx0f6q91r0eumco1_1280.jpg (http://24.media.tumblr.com/cbffecccff1fd207fa2f90bcfbaf913e/tumblr_misgx0f6q91r0eumco1_1280.jpg)
http://25.media.tumblr.com/47e0ae5ca5cd219b3c3c56d3dada38c9/tumblr_misgx0f6q91r0eumco2_1280.jpg (http://25.media.tumblr.com/47e0ae5ca5cd219b3c3c56d3dada38c9/tumblr_misgx0f6q91r0eumco2_1280.jpg)
http://25.media.tumblr.com/77838343351dffe46fce1e10dcabca56/tumblr_misgx0f6q91r0eumco3_1280.jpg (http://25.media.tumblr.com/77838343351dffe46fce1e10dcabca56/tumblr_misgx0f6q91r0eumco3_1280.jpg)
You pass very well mate. You remind me of Mark from Rosanne
Quote from: Malachite on February 25, 2013, 04:22:51 PM
You pass very well mate. You remind me of Mark from Rosanne
That's an easy pass in my book!
Got a picture of me in the new binder. I'm not entirely happy with the effect, but I think there's only so much a binder can do for a massive prow like mine. Trying to get the 'pec effect' is really difficult.
Any tips on improving this would be welcome.
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Quote from: DeeperThanSwords on February 25, 2013, 08:30:37 PM
Got a picture of me in the new binder. I'm not entirely happy with the effect, but I think there's only so much a binder can do for a massive prow like mine. Trying to get the 'pec effect' is really difficult.
Any tips on improving this would be welcome.
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mine are hideously ginormous too, what works for me is 'tucking' them under my arms, that way i dont get grandma tits halfway down :3 so out and under works for me, good luck!
Quote from: Geek on February 26, 2013, 08:52:03 AM
mine are hideously ginormous too, what works for me is 'tucking' them under my arms, that way i dont get grandma tits halfway down :3 so out and under works for me, good luck!
Good thinking, Batman! I'll give that s go. The difficulty seems to be in giving thrm that slightly rectangular thing that pecs have. Stupid squishy things.
Quote from: Darkflame on February 22, 2013, 05:25:32 PM
I'm pre T and it definitely shows :embarrassed: I pass most of the time though, people usually think I'm a 14 yo boy :P
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Hourou Musuko.
I think i pass pretty ok (mostly because of the stache) but i'm wondering how old i look. i'm 24 and almost 6 months on T.
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Quote from: Tristan_Markus on February 26, 2013, 03:56:07 PM
I think i pass pretty ok (mostly because of the stache) but i'm wondering how old i look. i'm 24 and almost 6 months on T.
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Early 20s, I'd say--maybe a bit younger than 24 but not too much.
Here we go, some pics of me properly dressed over my binder, with packer as well and my face done:
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My chest, 'spare tyre' and hips are still letting me down badly.
Quote from: DeeperThanSwords on February 27, 2013, 04:02:40 PM
Here we go, some pics of me properly dressed over my binder, with packer as well and my face done:
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My chest, 'spare tyre' and hips are still letting me down badly.
I think a looser shirt will help. I get this weird line between my chest (plus generally unattractive schmoobs) and the top of my stomach when I bind that's really visible in tighter shirts. Don't go too baggy, though--I'm 6'.5", 300+ lbs. and wear a 3XLT shirt (that's XXXL and long), and it fits perfectly on me. It also helps hide my hips and waist. Might work for you. :)
If it wasn't for your chest, you'd pass well. I'd second the thing on a slightly looser shirt. Sort of a middle ground between baggy and tight.
I gotta say though, I'm really jealous of how you pull off the long hair. It suits you, and you're lucky enough that it doesn't seem to hinder your passing at all. I've wondered what it'd be like to have myself a man-mane, but I doubt I'd pass if I grew my hair.
Quote from: DeeperThanSwords on February 27, 2013, 04:02:40 PM
Here we go, some pics of me properly dressed over my binder, with packer as well and my face done:
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My chest, 'spare tyre' and hips are still letting me down badly.
Your shirt it too tight. It shows off your chest more. I'd wear a looser shirt if you can.
I think one shirt will better than T-shirt (Deeper).
Quote from: Caleb. on February 27, 2013, 05:41:07 PM
If it wasn't for your chest, you'd pass well. I'd second the thing on a slightly looser shirt. Sort of a middle ground between baggy and tight.
I gotta say though, I'm really jealous of how you pull off the long hair. It suits you, and you're lucky enough that it doesn't seem to hinder your passing at all. I've wondered what it'd be like to have myself a man-mane, but I doubt I'd pass if I grew my hair.
Yeah, it does look like I need to go for something looser.
Loving the term "man-mane", by the way! I am quite impressed by how I can make the long hair work. Still thinking of getting a fauxhawk though...
Quote from: DeeperThanSwords on February 27, 2013, 07:38:26 PM
Yeah, it does look like I need to go for something looser.
Loving the term "man-mane", by the way! I am quite impressed by how I can make the long hair work. Still thinking of getting a fauxhawk though...
Nooo, leave the hair! You totally make it work! Can def. picture you swinging some crazy big sword around.
Quote from: Tazia of the Omineca on February 26, 2013, 10:32:58 AM
Hourou Musuko.
My icon? yup ;)
And DeeperThanSwords, you still pass pretty well IMO. Still agree with the looser shirt though
Quote from: DeeperThanSwords on February 27, 2013, 04:02:40 PM
Here we go, some pics of me properly dressed over my binder, with packer as well and my face done:
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My chest, 'spare tyre' and hips are still letting me down badly.
Aethan
You look great! I know I told you this the last time, but I'm liking the 'man mane'.
Quote from: DeeperThanSwords on February 27, 2013, 04:02:40 PM
Here we go, some pics of me properly dressed over my binder, with packer as well and my face done:
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My chest, 'spare tyre' and hips are still letting me down badly.
Like the others said, I think the shirt is a little tight but aside from that you totally pass. I hope you take no offense to this but I am in love with your looks. You remind me of a Scottish warrior or a person right out of Braveheart.
hey guys! i'm new here, so let me know if i'm doing anything wrong. i pass pretty well in the outside world, but i'm trying to find ways to make me pass more or look older. so my question would be do i pass better with longer or shorter hair, and does the bleach hinder my passing?
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not the best pictures, i'm not very photogenic haha
Aethan don't cut it! You look so heroic with the long hair! You make me think of Natty Bumpoo; if you didn't like across the pond, I'd totally get you a bow and arrow. :D
CrookedJaw: I think you'd look older if you worked a bit on your upper body, you look wicked skinny, and having a bit of upper body definition will make you look a little older. I think you look older with the shorter hair, than the longer hair with the bleach.
Aethan: Looser shirt would be a plus, but good god man, the mane has to stay! It looks epic on you.
CJ: I agree with LH on this one too. Upper body strength is always good to have anyway, and it'll help you stop looking 13 XP
Quote from: LearnedHand on March 01, 2013, 06:06:53 PM
Aethan don't cut it! You look so heroic with the long hair! You make me think of Natty Bumpoo; if you didn't like across the pond, I'd totally get you a bow and arrow. :D
CrookedJaw: I think you'd look older if you worked a bit on your upper body, you look wicked skinny, and having a bit of upper body definition will make you look a little older. I think you look older with the shorter hair, than the longer hair with the bleach.
i definitely get what you're saying haha i've started working out my upper body recently. i'm just so bony, it's a nightmare. i'll be starting T soon though so hopefully i'll actually notice a bigger difference in muscle gain. thank you both!
Quote from: ford on February 27, 2013, 08:51:21 PM
Nooo, leave the hair! You totally make it work! Can def. picture you swinging some crazy big sword around.
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on March 01, 2013, 06:16:37 PM
Aethan: Looser shirt would be a plus, but good god man, the mane has to stay! It looks epic on you.
CJ: I agree with LH on this one too. Upper body strength is always good to have anyway, and it'll help you stop looking 13 XP
Quote from: LearnedHand on March 01, 2013, 06:06:53 PM
Aethan don't cut it! You look so heroic with the long hair! You make me think of Natty Bumpoo; if you didn't like across the pond, I'd totally get you a bow and arrow. :D
Quote from: Malachite on March 01, 2013, 01:04:14 PM
Like the others said, I think the shirt is a little tight but aside from that you totally pass. I hope you take no offense to this but I am in love with your looks. You remind me of a Scottish warrior or a person right out of Braveheart.
Quote from: spring0721 on February 28, 2013, 12:28:45 PM
Aethan
You look great! I know I told you this the last time, but I'm liking the 'man mane'.
Haha! That seems like an overwhelming vote in favour of the mane!
Malachite, I AM a warrior ;). Not from Braveheart though, due to the woeful historical inaccuracies (I'm a film student, soon to be graduate, so that stuff gets my goat, lol. I appreciate what you mean though :). I even do Medieval German longsword fighting (for real, not re-enactment or LARP), so I get how the mane would work there.
Ok, I'll keep the mane for now, since you all love it so much ;D.
Donnie Darko : I love your style and I love your pseudo! You are perfect! ;)
DonnieDarko fogadtatás! Your English is good, don't worry about it. And, you Hungarians have awesome accents. ;)
You seem to pass and T will help out a lot.
donnie darko: welcome! id say you pass but for like 15-17, T will definitely help you look older though
Quote from: Zarathoustra on March 02, 2013, 04:13:56 AM
Donnie Darko : I love your style and I love your pseudo! You are perfect! ;)
Wow thanks for the very kind words! ;)
Quote from: LearnedHand on March 02, 2013, 06:46:24 AM
DonnieDarko fogadtatás! Your English is good, don't worry about it. And, you Hungarians have awesome accents. ;)
You seem to pass and T will help out a lot.
Köszönöm LearnedHand! :D ;) Hope so that T will help me a lot!
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on March 02, 2013, 08:10:00 AM
donnie darko: welcome! id say you pass but for like 15-17, T will definitely help you look older though
Hey Man thanks! You're right, i have an absolutely young face. :laugh:
Crookedjaw - I agree with others, the short hair suits you better and as Im sure you know already, once you get noticeable results from working out your upper body, Im sure you will start passing as older :) Its good to hear you are starting working out, good luck with that. I started off pretty skinny, its alot of work to bulk up being scrawny, but T will help so much with that progress :)
Donniedarko - first of all, nice name :p
Id say you pass pretty well in most of your pictures. Also, good luck starting T next week, I bet you cant wait!
Hey donnie, you pass completely. Bővül a magyarok köre ;D
Quote from: Make_It_Good on March 02, 2013, 08:35:47 AM
Donniedarko - first of all, nice name :p
Id say you pass pretty well in most of your pictures. Also, good luck starting T next week, I bet you cant wait!
Thanks buddy, best movie ever :P
Quote from: Jared on March 02, 2013, 10:59:46 AM
Hey donnie, you pass completely. Bővül a magyarok köre ;D
Az szép! :D thanks :D
Looks like you've got some pretty broad shoulders, Joey. :) That should definitely work in your favour. Mine have only broadened slightly and I do think it affects my passing sometimes.
Alright, soooo...my facial hair was getting really itchy after not shaving for about two months. I ended up trimming all of my facial hair really short as opposed to keeping long sideburns or something (since my sideburns weren't itchy but my chin/neck was). I'm not completely sure if I pass with it this short and wanted some feedback.
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And a higher res image of what I look like today:
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It's harder to judge with the first pic, but the second one is a definite pass imo
Lookin' quite the handsome dude imo Nygeel :) I like the second pic. because it shows a confident and kind smile... The kind of stuff that real men are made of
Before starting T
- Landen Scott,22
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hey guys i was just wondering if i pass, if so how old do i look and if there is anything at all that i can do with my hair to make me look older.haha im going crazy over it dudes
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ok... sorry, this is a pretty washed-out, crappy picture... but it's the most recent one i have.
pre-everything, as they say. maybe i pass? maybe not, i think i have a pretty feminine face. i do think a recede in hairline would help that.
Landen: you pass in that picture
Jerr: You look really young, maybe 14? I am horrible with ages though. I think your hair seems fine though, cutting or styling it differently probably won't make you look any older. A full-body shot would probably be more helpful at figuring out a way to make you look older. My general advice to look older is just to start lifting some weights, filling out a little more of your arms and shoulders will help out.
Marlowe: you pass to me in that picture.
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My hair is at this weird length where I should get it cut, but I was thinking I wanted to grow my bangs out more. So I'm trying to wear it differently. Don't know how I pass with it :-\
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Got new glasses. Wondering how I look. Sorry for the glare and all that - the lenses are insanely thick and there's no way to keep them from reflecting the light from my screen so much.
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^ See?
I've got a training thing for work in two weeks and I realized the professional clothes I wore to it last year don't fit me any more. So I made a trip to Goodwill and got some stuff ($7 for a complete outfit-- nice). I still need to get another one (I'll probably just get a shirt and wear the same pants both days).
I haven't decided yet if I'm going to wear the tie. I still don't really present male at that job, although they do call me Devin and I wear male shorts and shoes and a white t-shirt under my polo shirt in the summer, so I basically dress male all summer. Last year I did the dress shirt without the tie, like in the first pic, and they seemed fine with that (the dress code for the training is "dress pants and dress shirt with a tie for the gentlemen"). I'm not sure if I'm brave enough to rock the tie.
Opinions? I know the tie's a little wrinkled. Any ideas on what I should wear for the 2nd day?
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And here's one pulling the pants down as far as they'll go on my hips. It's not entirely comfortable and I have a feeling they'd ride back up during the day, anyway, but I think it makes my upper body look a little longer and my hips a little smaller. If I were to do that, I'd also probably make the tie a little longer (if I wear it).
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got a haircut a couple days ago and i got complemented on it and flirted with lol bad pic but whatever
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Quote from: ty.to.the.man on March 10, 2013, 09:06:22 PM
got a haircut a couple days ago and i got complemented on it and flirted with lol bad pic but whatever
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You look like a young Joseph Gordon-Levett, absolutely delicious!
Wow! All of y'all pass, hands down! 8)
devin - you might want to see what it looks like poofing out the shirt a bit. that sometimes works to conceal a high waistline - you can poof it out in the right way it can cover a lot. in the future, you can also get pants a size too big and just use a well-placed belt to hold them down around your hips instead of your waist.
Wear the tie. can't hurt to try, right?
My face seems to be getting a little more angular as I lose weight. So what's the verdict? Sorry for the crappy lighting and webcamminess.
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Wow, total pass. Without a doubt :o Your face is really angular, it definitely helps you out big time. You actually look a lot like one of my bio guy friends
Quote from: Lee on March 11, 2013, 01:13:25 AM
My face seems to be getting a little more angular as I lose weight. So what's the verdict? Sorry for the crappy lighting and webcamminess.
Wow Lee!!! Long time no see, you've changed quite a bit 8) Rather handsom BTW
Quote from: Siege on March 08, 2013, 01:05:08 PM
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Got new glasses. Wondering how I look. Sorry for the glare and all that - the lenses are insanely thick and there's no way to keep them from reflecting the light from my screen so much.
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^ See?
I remember you posting another picture earlier, and I think you pass better with the glasses. Looks good on you!
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I'm sorry about the quality and I look angry, but I'm actually not. I'm a pre-T transguy. People say I pass, but I don't know if they are being honest or just trying to make me feel good.
If I don't pass, what can I do to pass without getting on T?
Quote from: mathewB on March 12, 2013, 02:10:45 AM
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I'm sorry about the quality and I look angry, but I'm actually not. I'm a pre-T transguy. People say I pass, but I don't know if they are being honest or just trying to make me feel good.
If I don't pass, what can I do to pass without getting on T?
i don't think they're just trying to be nice, you totally pass.
http://gyazo.com/53451c3bcc96ce7923b9b12a36a04191 (http://gyazo.com/53451c3bcc96ce7923b9b12a36a04191) I doubt I'll pass. I am pre-T, and yeah, my upper face is covered. Sorry about that.
Quote from: Retiku on March 12, 2013, 06:57:20 PM
http://gyazo.com/53451c3bcc96ce7923b9b12a36a04191 (http://gyazo.com/53451c3bcc96ce7923b9b12a36a04191) I doubt I'll pass. I am pre-T, and yeah, my upper face is covered. Sorry about that.
Could you upload it somewhere else? It's only showing me a photo less than an inch square so I really can't tell at all.
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I'm sorry about the quality and I look angry, but I'm actually not. I'm a pre-T transguy. People say I pass, but I don't know if they are being honest or just trying to make me feel good.
If I don't pass, what can I do to pass without getting on T?
You definitely pass to me.
Quote from: AlexanderC on March 12, 2013, 07:01:46 PM
Could you upload it somewhere else? It's only showing me a photo less than an inch square so I really can't tell at all.
http://gyazo.com/7e0bcbadf41f7a4fc510e03c1dcffba1 (http://gyazo.com/7e0bcbadf41f7a4fc510e03c1dcffba1)
^Older picture, about 6 months old.
http://gyazo.com/a1fec4be6b37d4e77d14567624ad1bbd (http://gyazo.com/a1fec4be6b37d4e77d14567624ad1bbd)
^Newer
I feel as though my face has changed a lot since those for some reason.
Matthew, you pass to me without a doubt. You look real good considering you're pre T.
Retiku, you pass in the second picture, but you look very very young. I think the hair makes you look younger, maybe try a different cut. Also, I think T will help mature your face but you're on the right tracks.
Joey
I agree with Joey, you pass, but look about 12. The hair definitely doesn't really help you look older, try something shorter and with wax/gel in.
Matthew: You definitely pass in that pic.
Retiku: Your hair might make or break your passing at this point. For the age you seem to be, it is too straight. When you get out of the shower try combing it only with your fingers. Or use a comb first and then mess it up with your hands. No product necessary--when it dries it should look quite different and stay that way all day. Try that and see how you like it.
Matthew, you are perfect. You remember me a american actor but I've forgotten his name...he is famous however.
Joey your hair looks so much better now than in your previous pictures, you're looking good man!
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So -- I look kind of goofy in this -- but that's me and my brother waiting at Sonic. I feel like my face is a little too round/chubby-like, but I don't know! His face is rounder than mine, I think. Anyway. Shoddy quality because it's an iPhone picture, so that can't be helped. What do you guys think? ;)
joey: im not sure if you completely pass (voice and mannerisms would come into play) but definitely getting there!
democration: id say pass but for pretty young, like around 13-15
i haven't really posted in a while but ive been getting ma'am'd a lot lately so i thought i'd see if i actually looked like it lol
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for whatever reason its been happening a lot more lately and a lot of my friends tell me i dont look feminine but its really disheartening getting called miss by complete strangers. im pre t (kind of starting to seriously consider it now though, so maybe ill be on it soon.) also my hair looks stupid so you get to see my mug in a hat. im getting it cut soon
Peppy, I know how you feel. Post another photo when you cut your hair :) For now, I can only say you have that soft look in your eyes. How do you dress? Because only if I see your face I would never think you're not a guy. Maybe it's something else. Sometimes when Im feeling super fine and manly I get ma'am'd and that really hurts.
ah thanks for the reply. and yea HOPEFULLY that haircut will come soon. i just have to make sure i can spend the money on it lol (i usually have a mohawk so im gonna get that back now that i have a job that'll let me do that) also i do have a picture of how i dress. its kind of silly but its the only one i have saved to my computer lol ;;
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also i have been talking to my parents more about t and i think i might be able to get on it soon (hopefully.) so that's good. i gotta jump through those hoops as they come though so im not sure how quickly that'll happen
wait, you seriously get ma'am? I... wha... how? are the people in your area totally blind or something?
yeah i dunno it normally doesn't happen THAT much, just lately. it might be my voice though. idk i've been asking a lot of friends because ive been really wigged out about it and most of them think i pass okay
in all seriousness though you look like a cross of drake and josh. which is basically to say you have fabulous hair and a lovely warm face :D (and judging by your pose a sense of comedy to match the parentage : P)
Peppy, I would never think you are anything but a boy since I saw your complete picture.
I was going crazy trying to remember who you reminded me of. That pic made me remember; it's Cameron from Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
You pass completely btw.
oh man i actually get that a lot! the cameron frye thing that is. im considering trying to get a costume together for that lol. and thanks. i guess i was probably just having a bad week or something. idunno.
also the drake and josh thing made me laugh really hard phht. i loved that show. : )
Peppy, you totally pass. I don't know how you get ma'amed. And I can appreciate the haircut thing, that's why I like hats haha.
Got some new glasses. Just want to see if I pass as well with these!
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And one smiling :p
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yes, hats are my best friend lol. and you look good with the glasses! you definitely pass. : )
"Plein d'entrain" your passing is perfect! ;)
Hey guys, just bought this shirt (Big Bang Theory ftw :P) and I was feeling a little unsure about it. Like it seemed like it was making my chest look a little off when I tried it on, but I liked it enough that I bought it figuring I could take it back if I still felt weird looking in it.
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I think my binder was just in a weird position in the store because it looked fine once I tried it on at home. Now I'm just a little paranoid though so I figured I'd get some objective opinions
Darkflame, I think your chest looks fine. The shirt just looks a tad big on you, but it seems fine to wear out
Yeah, I do tend to wear everything oversized. Which probably contributes to me looking perpetually 13 :-\ but it does reduce some of the anxiety and dysphoria to have everything loose of the body. I'm just glad my chest isn't showing :)
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Hey guys, got new glasses. What do you all think? Do they help with passing or looking closer to my age?
Quote from: Konnor on March 21, 2013, 07:20:13 PM
Hey guys, got new glasses. What do you all think? Do they help with passing or looking closer to my age?
I think you look great, and you pass to me. Not sure of your age, so not sure if you look closer to it, but you definitely look older than in your avatar. Mid to late 20s maybe? (though I am horrible at telling people's age, so I am not sure why I bother lol)
You definitely pass. The glasses look good. I'd have to say early 20s, and I have to agree with Learned Hand, you look older than your avatar.
I was messing around with my camera and I have my new binder on. 2 seperate ways to wear my hair too but not sure what one looks best.
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I turned 23 last month so that's awesome to hear! I usually get pegged as a teenager so I'm thrilled that these glasses might help me look more mature!
Joey, I think your hair looks better in the picture to the left. Messier usually helps say male where hair is concerned.
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It was yesterday.
My hair become long!
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And October 2012!
What do you prefer?
Zarathoustra, I like your hair in the second picture better 8) but either way, you look great!
Zarathoustra: I second Harlee, you look great! And I think your hair looks good long as well.
Zarathoustra, you pass in both pics, but shorter hair looks good on you.
I like the second one more, but you look fantastic in both. No passing problems here ;) The first pic does make you look classier than a monocle though, so I guess it's just what kind of look do you prefer
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Ermahgerd. Both looks are fantastic on you, but with the shorter hair you look like my boyfriend so I might have to pick that. I love the glasses.
Quote from: Zarathoustra on March 24, 2013, 03:51:26 AM
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It was yesterday.
My hair become long!
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And October 2012!
What do you prefer?
You kind of look like Orlando Bloom from the side pic.
Quote from: Konnor on March 21, 2013, 07:20:13 PM
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Hey guys, got new glasses. What do you all think? Do they help with passing or looking closer to my age?
Yes I think you pass.
ok guys so i pretty much never post smiling pictures anywhere cause i hate my smile, but i gotta know if i pass while smiling. brutal honesty would be much appreciated.
thanks!
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Brutal honesty: What the hell are you doing in the "Do I pass?" thread, bro? Get outta here :P
Tyler, I don't think you can never NOT pass!
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First time posting pictures. Hope it works since I'm horrible with technology.
I have a very expressive face, I'm just not good at taking non-candid photos. So in one of these I just ended up looking crazy. But the important part is, do I pass?
Hah, your expressions in these pictures remind me of my boyfriend. He's a silly goose :P
You pass 100%, wouldn't even doubt you. Nice shirt, btw- that has to be one of my favorite bands.
I've been experimenting with hairstyles lately.
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Which of these looks the most masculine, or at least androgynous?
I know I don't pass in the slightest with my hair this length, but I'm thinking once it gets out of the awkward overgrown pixie stage it might be a little better. Worst case scenario, it doesn't and I cut it off again.
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on March 24, 2013, 07:21:19 PM
ok guys so i pretty much never post smiling pictures anywhere cause i hate my smile, but i gotta know if i pass while smiling. brutal honesty would be much appreciated.
thanks!
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you look good smiling. btw i like your hair longer you pass better with your hair like this as opposed to it being really short.
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on March 26, 2013, 10:36:30 PM
Hah, your expressions in these pictures remind me of my boyfriend. He's a silly goose :P
You pass 100%, wouldn't even doubt you. Nice shirt, btw- that has to be one of my favorite bands.
Thanks and same here.
I'm hoping to find some candid photos and see if those still pass. Since I'm also a silly guy and barely make my default face while talking.
Quote from: androgynoid on March 27, 2013, 01:17:07 PM
I've been experimenting with hairstyles lately.
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Which of these looks the most masculine, or at least androgynous?
I know I don't pass in the slightest with my hair this length, but I'm thinking once it gets out of the awkward overgrown pixie stage it might be a little better. Worst case scenario, it doesn't and I cut it off again.
I think the photo to the far right looks the least androgynous. Though the hair style itself is better the glasses definitely help.
^This. The one on the right definitely looks more male than the others, I'd say it could pass as long as nothing else is obviously female.
Quote from: assorted_human on March 27, 2013, 06:22:04 PM
I think the photo to the far right looks the least androgynous. Though the hair style itself is better the glasses definitely help.
I was leaning toward that one, yeah. My friend said it looked very masculine, but I kind of doubted him.
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on March 27, 2013, 09:14:42 PM
^This. The one on the right definitely looks more male than the others, I'd say it could pass as long as nothing else is obviously female.
Wow, really? I should start wearing my hair like that more often and see how I get gendered.
I have to agree, the one of the right is the most manly.
But I have to ask, do you still pick the eyebrows (if that is the correct term for it)? They look very narrow and woman-ish in the pictures.
Quote from: Mr.X on March 28, 2013, 01:23:49 PM
I have to agree, the one of the right is the most manly.
But I have to ask, do you still pick the eyebrows (if that is the correct term for it)? They look very narrow and woman-ish in the pictures.
I do pluck my eyebrows. >.< I don't really like the look of them when I don't; they get really thick and angular. However, I don't usually pluck them as thin as this. Maybe I'll let them grow back in a little and see how that looks.
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First time posting pictures. Hope it works since I'm horrible with technology.
I have a very expressive face, I'm just not good at taking non-candid photos. So in one of these I just ended up looking crazy. But the important part is, do I pass?
You pass with flying colors :)
2 Months on T: (https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/65918_107720666081721_1282711889_n.jpg)
5 Months on T! yay: (https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/484238_124686121051842_1699131793_n.jpg)
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In last pic, most current, do I still show any feminine features? :O
i can't see any feminine features in fact you look like a guy my little sister used to date
Probably dumb to even ask this right now since I havent even started the process (so not on T or any changes at all yet) but face wise could I pass? In person my body seems to ruin it, but I do occasionally pass. To me though its just a 'lucky mistake'. Well not a mistake since thats what I am but yeah.. no one gets it as usual
Just wondering for now. My gf doesnt think I look feminine at all while my ex outright asked me if I was. Been asked plenty of times in the past what I am. Always great.. Never liked my face either. I can never decide on a pic so heres several, the last 2 are within the last week
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Cant wait til I can start T and have my top surgery done (which I think is whats stopping me passing the most right now) Have to wait awhile yet though.. too impatient now
Quote from: BearGuy on March 29, 2013, 03:48:30 AM
5 Months on T! yay: (https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/484238_124686121051842_1699131793_n.jpg)
wow 5 months and muscles like that? You look amazing. I've been weight lifting alot lately but without T Im not really getting anywhere. I mean my weight capacity is increasing (I started off at 6kg dumbbells, now about to move onto 12kg) but no muscle can be seen and barely even felt. Very jealous of yours but hoping the T when can eventually get it will change everything for me. You dont look even remotely feminine either
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Pre-everything, Look good? I'm sooo ugly.. :-\
Hah, no you aren't. Saw you on another blog, not only are you not ugly but you also pass just fine to me :P
No one commented on my ugly pics, no one loves me :'( That's a good thing though, they actually are ugly. I'll take new ones in a bit when I stop being lazy. Going to go take down that other post now.
Thanks, alot. :D :angel:
Woo, posting four pictures. The last one is just me being silly, it actually came out better than I thought it would. I don't wear glasses but they kind of make me look older (not really lol).
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If only my stomach were as big as it looks in that blue sweater, my chest wouldn't stick out so much in everything else.
Mmm, Not bad. :) Kinda looks adrogdynous, though. Soft face.
Thanks, and yeah- it's one of my problems. Seems to change in softness at random times, also my hair is at this awkward stage and refuses to grow out any more than this so my mom won't let me get it cut. T isn't anywhere within my reach atm, so feedback from anyone on working with what I have would be greatly appreciated.
Passed at the unisex barber today even though I had much longer hair. This is the result (and outfit I was wearing).
Be kind but all advice and criticism welcome. I'm pre-everything. After a ton of intense schoolwork and work, I let myself go a little so I'm in the process of losing that horrible fat but I'll get there and it'll hopefully straighten me out a tad. I also took a bit of a knock at Taekwon-do during sparing, so my right (screen left) eye is a little funky hense hiding it a bit away from camera, but I think that just helps me pass a little easier ;).
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Liminal Stranger: I think you could pass, the hair would just throw to more feminine right now.
Seth: You look amazing for a pre-everything! Wow! And you're not ugly, shut up!
Leo: Not half bad, but yeah I can see how your top half would give you away right now, but it gives me away too, hence the over shirts. Once I lose some weight it might help a bit but once I'm on my workout program with T, I'm think my "pec" look will at least look in proportion until top surgery.
Bear Guy: Not a hint of feminine features! Damn! Success story right there. That's some muscles too.
Androgynoid: Definitely the right picture for me.
Assorted_human: Nice, bro! Definite pass and awesome shirt!
I can certainly see why you passed Matty, you look pretty much cis to me. I wouldnt question you at all. I dont even see how your chest could give you away. Wish I had your 'problem' there, I cant possibly hide this.. Of course I had to get this really bad too didnt I. You dont look fat at all either. Thats an extra problem I have too, no matter how much I try to lose weight nothing makes the slightest bit of difference. Probably have to resort to surgery while Im getting all this done anyway. Nothing about you I can see would give you away at all
I hate everything about myself, not a single thing I dont. I especially hate my face, I think I look stupid.. and ugly.. but there we go
Liminal - You could pass too. Its just the style of hair really but you still look fine
@Matty Thanks! I look amazing because of the angle, if I'm looking straight on, I'll probably be a bit more feminine, honestly. . XD And you pass really well, I would totally think you were born a boy. I might take a pic of me straight on, later.
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on March 30, 2013, 09:09:28 PM
Woo, posting four pictures. The last one is just me being silly, it actually came out better than I thought it would. I don't wear glasses but they kind of make me look older (not really lol).
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If only my stomach were as big as it looks in that blue sweater, my chest wouldn't stick out so much in everything else.
how old are you?
Not old enough to say. I've got an issue looking my age whether people think I'm a boy or a girl, I'm just trying to pass without worrying about the age thing. I need a haircut though :-\
Quote from: Leo. on March 31, 2013, 09:50:37 AM
I can certainly see why you passed Matty, you look pretty much cis to me. I wouldnt question you at all. I dont even see how your chest could give you away. Wish I had your 'problem' there, I cant possibly hide this.. Of course I had to get this really bad too didnt I. You dont look fat at all either. Thats an extra problem I have too, no matter how much I try to lose weight nothing makes the slightest bit of difference. Probably have to resort to surgery while Im getting all this done anyway. Nothing about you I can see would give you away at all
I hate everything about myself, not a single thing I dont. I especially hate my face, I think I look stupid.. and ugly.. but there we go
Thanks :)
I'm actually a DD so hiding that is hard, that's why I wear over shirts all the time. I prefer winter cause I can always have layers, in the summer I start to look a bit repetitive with over shirts all the time! Also, when you're out and about, keeping overshirts from flying back and revealing all is pretty much impossible. I have to kinda hold them together or button it while walking, but if I'm buttoning a shirt I have to get a size too big because I still have hips and they never look right at the bottom! Bit of a nightmare!
I don't think you're ugly at all! You look fine! Chin up, bro! Everyone looks for faults in themselves. For myself my main hatred is my entire lack of chin. I look fine straight on but if you saw me from the side my chin just goes straight into my neck and it looks horrible. Nothing I can do about it bar surgery and it's not something I care enough about for surgery (more important things to address first ;) lol).
As for weight, I do have quite a bit still. That picture is a little more flattering but I still need to lose about 8-10kg (17-22lbs). When losing weight it really is all about diet and lifestyle change. I have 5 400 calorie meals a day spaced out every 3 hours. I do very intense workouts though so that's far too much to eat if you don't workout. But I've noticed if I take a week off training on a recovery week, I still lose weight. On the flip side, if I train hard for a week but maybe not eat so well, I can actually put on weight!!! I know high level exercise puts people off losing weight, but it's really like 80% diet and 20% exercise. A little exercise to work the muscles (even walking counts!) and switching to eating smaller amounts but more regularly with 5-6 meals a day will help boost your metabolism might get you some better results before you start considering surgery for that. It can be an absolute pain in the butt to motivate yourself, but even with 10-16hr work days 5-7 days a week, I eventually settled down into a routine. Feel free to hit me up if you want some advice here. I've already lost 20 lbs since January and I still eat stuff I like, I refuse to cut out pizzas, burgers and fries because I want a lifestyle change that I can stick to, not a diet. And no, I'm NOT selling diets or specific exercise plans, just common sense. Exercise definitely helps me cut the weight and it'll help cut it faster, but you don't have to go as insane as me, not even close!
Quote from: Seth_P on March 31, 2013, 10:35:42 AM
@Matty Thanks! I look amazing because of the angle, if I'm looking straight on, I'll probably be a bit more feminine, honestly. . XD And you pass really well, I would totally think you were born a boy. I might take a pic of me straight on, later.
Thanks :). And I'd like to see a pic straight on, but right now I think you might just look like a younger boy rather than total full on feminine, but let's see. Are you still quite young? One of the issues I have is that I'm often perceived to be a lot younger than I actually am (28), I don't know how well that picture shows that, but I find it hard to estimate the age of some FTM, especially pre-everything, because of the issues I have. I sometimes get told I look 17 or at best 18 :-\. And when you have a girl's ID, appearing to look under age just sucks!
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on March 31, 2013, 11:44:02 AM
Not old enough to say. I've got an issue looking my age whether people think I'm a boy or a girl, I'm just trying to pass without worrying about the age thing. I need a haircut though :-\
well with a hair cut you will totally pass as like 12
Yeah, people think I'm a 10 year old girl with this haircut. But it needs to grow out before I'm allowed to get it cut, and if I go to a barber shop or something my mother will have me institutionalized because that obviously makes me psychotic -_-
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@danjs34 you defo pass for me. 8)
Haven't posted in awhile wanting to know how I am doing with passing, got a new binder the other day so been feeling pretty good, and have lost about 20 pounds since I last posted. Let me know what you think, I'm still pre-T
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And before I shave tomorrow here is my facial hair, takes about 6 weeks for it to be about this much, and I am pre-T
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Definite passes and holy crap Charlie, that's some facial hair for pre-T! Wow!
Quote from: danjs34 on April 01, 2013, 03:16:26 PM
Hey guys this is my first time posting my face
would you say I pass?
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I'm not 100% on it but I'd say you pass pretty well. Honestly tho I'm too busy staring at ur eyes (in a completely platonic, coming from a straight bro kind of way) lol you've got AWESOME blue eyes. And regardless of how well you pass now you've got a great base to start with. Couple years on T and those eyes will have you permanently posting in the badass thread. Good for you bro :)
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Here's a crappy picture. I'm pre-everything but I've been told that I have masculine facial features. Just wondered what everyone thinks. I have my hair pulled back and that pathetic facial hair was just a sad attempt at drawing it on. :P
You pass really well, especially for pre T. Your face does look pretty masculine, you have some good angular structure going on :)
Hey all. I thought in celebration of 6 months on T, I'd post some pictures in the 'Do I Pass' thread.
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sorry for the seduction you are experiencing now (j/k)
Perfectly!
prince sal - you look great! pass with flying colors as I'm sure you already know lol
hair up?
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or down/side?
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what do you guys think?
Dude, I cry manly tears every time you post here because I'd like to look like a cisguy too :laugh:
Either way looks nice with your face shape and all, for some reason you look older in the first pic even though I would think the hairstyle in the second would do that, might just be the lighting or something. Personally I like the first one better but don't listen to me, I'm just the guy who wants to take over the world with genetically engineered cats >:-)
I kid, I kid. I vote first one.
I prefer the second one because it looks neater to me, the first looks like you're trying to be neat and it's not worked, but that could just be the picture. Either way, you completely pass and have done for ever, so get yourself over to the badass thread and stay there!
Seriously, you and everyone else who's posted recently in here passes great to me.
I personally like the first pic, Ty. Not sure why. It does look more casual than the second, but you're young so I think in most circumstances it's expected you'll look casual if it's just say to day stuff.
Ty: down/side for me, you look more...well...badass!
Contravene: Yeah you got some real good features there!
Prince Sal: Definite pass!
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Recent pic dressed up for my friend's formal, I am on the right, let me know what you think. Thanks.
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Here's a crappy picture. I'm pre-everything but I've been told that I have masculine facial features. Just wondered what everyone thinks. I have my hair pulled back and that pathetic facial hair was just a sad attempt at drawing it on. :P
You look really good, especially pre-T! Total pass.
Charlie you also look good, you pass if this is a question for you.
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Due to the really nice weather and knowing I need a haircut I decided to get one at a place that was pretty legit. I asked for the sides and back to be tapered (makes your neck look longer if you're like me and have a short neck). I think this haircut might do a little more "harm" when it comes to getting seen as male.
Nygeel, every time you post a picture you can see the improvements. You totally pass and I think the shorter hair suits you a lot better. You look great man.
New avatar time Nygeel 8) Oh look, you've got a nice pic. right there
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Prince Sal: You pass and in the middle picture you remind me a guy from a band called Ween.
Charlie: Passing even in purple. :)
Ty: I think the first one makes you look older. That hairstyle seems to make your face longer. Whereas in the second one your face looks more round and youthful.
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What do you guys think?
Joey - Your photos seem to keep getting more and more masculine to me, I don't know why! Are you sure you're not secretly on T?
Nygeel - I can't believe you're the same person as you were when I first started coming on here sometimes! T is really starting to work it's magic on you. I think the shorter hair suits you, and doesn't hinder your passing to me, but people your area are clearly blind if the don't notice the beard, or the fact that you just look male!
Been feeling a bit "mehh" about myself recently, although I had a really good day out with my girlfriend which cheered me up. She was taking photos of me and I realised I don't think I've ever posted natural or full body photos in here. I was laughing at her in most of them so excuse the faces.
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I was walking backwards in these two if it looks kinda odd.
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It's not actually that big in real life, it's because I'm so tiny!
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First time shaving my head since starting T. I've been on T for 13 months. I feel I look like a girl, honestly, what do you think?
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Darrin, I literally lol'd because there is no way you look like a girl. Actually the short hair looks really good on you.
Darrin, you're a regular pageant princess, lmao.
Seriously, you think there is any possible way you look female? It's the dysphoria man...short hair looks fine on you.
Quote from: Darrin Scott on April 12, 2013, 07:56:02 PM
First time shaving my head since starting T. I've been on T for 13 months. I feel I look like a girl, honestly, what do you think?
I honestly think it may be time for a better pair of glasses, because there is no way you look like a girl.
Joey, I agree with Alex- share your secrets of pre-T masculinization with us, don't keep that to yourself! In fact, everyone here is looking awesome, even the silly dude who was walking backwards :P