Quote from: Osiris on February 13, 2012, 01:07:32 AM
Ok this might not actually be in 3D but the title is catchy you have to admit. The last Do I Pass thread has been in use for over a year and has over 2,000 posts so I think it's time to break out a new thread.
As with the previous threads you can post your pictures, youtube videos, etc. and get some input from other members instead of creating a new thread for each pic or vid.
This is meant to help give advice and constructive criticism. Remember there is a difference between being truthful and being rude.
Also note that there is no way for someone on the internet to really be able to tell if you pass in real life. There is a big difference between interacting with someone and seeing a photo or video.
Okay, which studs are going to get onto Page 1?
Might as well start. :D
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Forgive my vein worms in my hands. XD
Tried my new clothes on. I kinda like them. ;D
...And those shoes originally had white laces but I changed them for reasons unknown.
Tossu, your snake bites look rad 8) I say pass
Not passing up the opportunity at first page :P My hair has grown way out of control due to sheer laziness and I'm gonna have to get it cut soon, I usually wear beanies, but I wonder if I'd even pass if I went out without a hood or hat
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Not sure if I want to get a trim or if I'm gonna go all out and buzz. I've been wanting to get a buzz cut forever, and I'm getting pretty fed up trying to grow out my bangs ::) Curly hair doesn't lend itself to that
Quote from: Darkflame on April 13, 2013, 06:23:10 AM
Not passing up the opportunity at first page :P My hair has grown way out of control due to sheer laziness and I'm gonna have to get it cut soon, I usually wear beanies, but I wonder if I'd even pass if I went out without a hood or hat
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Not sure if I want to get a trim or if I'm gonna go all out and buzz. I've been wanting to get a buzz cut forever, and I'm getting pretty fed up trying to grow out my bangs ::) Curly hair doesn't lend itself to that
I don't think you could pass too well without a hood/hat on, the longer hair seems to make your face and skin look even softer than it did in the picture you posted before with the shorter hair. I've heard a lot of transguys say buzz cuts aren't the way to go because it'll show that you have a smaller skull than cismen and butch lesbians have adopted the buzzcut. But luckily, it grows out quickly so try a buzz if that's what you've been wanting. :)
I picked up some sunglasses for jogging/biking this summer. I haven't worn sunglasses in YEARS so I feel as if I look like a bug.
What do you guys think?
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I like the sunglasses, it's kind of harder to tell by the angle of the pic, but I think it looks really, well, badass :P
I think the thing with my hair is it gets all wispy and curly when it gets even a little grown out and just looks brings out all the feminine stuff in my face ::) I don't think I'll buzz it completely, just really short :P even if that doesn't work out hair grows (mine happens to grow really freaking quick) and I already wear hats almost all the time
Quote from: LearnedHand on April 13, 2013, 11:14:58 AM
I picked up some sunglasses for jogging/biking this summer. I haven't worn sunglasses in YEARS so I feel as if I look like a bug.
What do you guys think?
I think something close to Tom Cruise. Can't stand the man myself, but he is a good looking guy.
Quote from: Tossu-sama on April 13, 2013, 03:34:32 AM
Might as well start. :D
Tried my new clothes on. I kinda like them. ;D
...And those shoes originally had white laces but I changed them for reasons unknown.
Good plan, probably too much busyness bringing attention to your feet anyway. You dress a lot like I do, I dress mostly male andro and layered.
Well, everyone here so far looks pretty badass ;D
LH, the glasses are great. Nice pose, by the way. And Darkflame, your face does look a bit softer with that hair style- then again, you remind me of my cismale friend who looks a lot like that. So I dunno, it could go either way.
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I'm fairly sure I don't pass in this one - features are a little soft - and I know that the lighting is redonk, but there's something about it I like. I think my face has started to get a little puffy around the edges. :-(
Also my pupils are huge. I look totally blown.
Cant miss a page 1 opportunity. All looking good so far
I dont think I look good (but whether its true or just dysphoria I have no idea) Heres the newest pic when I got my binder and trying out a new look I want to wear (always liked the shirt/waistcoat look) and have for ages but with this body it seemed pointless to. Binder is helping though
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It doesnt work amazingly well for me (just ordered a 983 tri-top so hopefully thats better) but it does make alot of difference. Frontal view I look alot flatter than before. I doubt the pass ability but can only hope to get there one day.. Not sure what the problem is with not passing, if its my body shape, face or just everything. Occasionally do but seems to be a rare occurance
If the new binder is better I'll get a new pic then and see what else can be done
Quote from: LearnedHand on April 13, 2013, 11:14:58 AM
I picked up some sunglasses for jogging/biking this summer. I haven't worn sunglasses in YEARS so I feel as if I look like a bug.
What do you guys think?
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You belong in the "You look badass, dude" topic. ;)
Quote from: democration on April 13, 2013, 02:57:26 PM
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I'm fairly sure I don't pass in this one - features are a little soft - and I know that the lighting is redonk, but there's something about it I like. I think my face has started to get a little puffy around the edges. :-(
Also my pupils are huge. I look totally blown.
I don't know why think you don't pass ;)
Promised I was gonna post a pic of me straight on, I just decided all angles. *shrug*
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I decided to do the straight on one.. funnily? Dunno, I'm random.
Seth, you look so much like a friend of mine with the same name that it's scary. Lighting is cool in your pic demo, I see a guy with large pupils :P
...You sure you guys aren't all cis and stumbled onto the forums by accident?
I got a new binder recently that seems to flatten a bit better and I can get away with polos these days it seems.
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And Seth, I still think you pass!
Democration: Pass, it's just hard to see the photo too well but from what I can see you pass.
Leo I think you pass but the stance and angle of the photo probably help you. Body shape can be a give away if you have hips but that's hard to tell from photo. Also, you won't always be standing that way and there may be one way that makes you look more masculine but other things you do more naturally may have a more feminine look. Best way to see why you're not passing is to record yourself just walking around the house to the point you forget it's recording and see what you do naturally that seems off and make an effort to not do that. Other things can be the way you stand or talk to people, for example women tend to talk with their hands going in an outward direction whereas men tend to talk with their hands more directed in towards themselves. It's not set in stone but there's little things like this that can make people question your sex, even if it's on a more subconscious level. Cismales can get away with a lot but if you're borderline, it can make all the difference even if people couldn't particularly tell you why.
Try recording yourself talking to a camera like you were discussing something with a friend. Pick something you're passionate about but that's quite complex so you have focus on what you're saying more than how you look. Then watch the video back and watch your face, stance and hands and see if you come across as feminine or masculine.
Learnedhand, the glasses are badass but I'd watch the outfit. The slimming, fitted look gives you a more feminine figure and draws attention to the hips, which men wouldn't have. It looks like you don't have too much here but the outfit and stance aren't doing you any favours. Looking at your face, it's a pass, but if I saw you with that outfit, I'd assume female. Throw a waistcoat (vest) on that outfit, preferably unbuttoned and you got a winner. Or wear a baggier pair of jeans and tuck in the shirt loosely (so it hangs over which will give more of a flatter shape) for a more casual look. This kinda relies on you not having too big an ass but from the looks of the photo you look pretty skinny so you could probably pull this off in the right jeans. If you throw a tie on this will helpt draw the focus away from the hips too. This would still work casually if you keep the knot loose and/or low with an unbuttoned top button
Darkflame: Yeah I think the hair cut just doesn't go in your favour, it either needs to be a bit longer and messy or shorter. It's looking a little well kept and feminine right now, it's like it's in that inbetween stage. Be careful about a buzzcut though as that can be quite drastic and you have a more oval shaped head and buzzcuts normally don't look so good unless you have a squarer face, it can end up making you look more feminine despite what you might think. I think your best bet would be short back and sides, maybe some tapering at the back but not SUPER short, and leave the top a little longer with layers so you can mess it up a little or wear it flat. This gives you options. I have quite wavy hair myself but I use straighteners to give me a more spikey look, or leave it flat, or not use the straighteners at all and gel it up for a more Ryan Reynolds type look lol. If you have straighteners and some gel, play around with that on your hair now and see if it can make it a little more masculine. Brushing it forward like I can see you've done with the sides can help, just beware of the Bieber look, unless you like that I guess. I think you could look good with longer messy hair, you don't need to have short hair. All guys with longer hair went through the awkward in-between stage so see if there's anything you can do with it first and then decide.
learnedhand: id say your face pretty much passes, but the jeans (might just be the way your shirt is fitted too) seems to hinder your passing.
democration: pass but for youngish (idk how old you are though lol)
seth: pass, but again for youngish
matty: definite pass. the binder looks good btw
Seth : you pass very well and you're very cute!
Thank you all guys. <3 I would say everyone who posted so far passes pretty well. (You look good in a polo, Matty! :laugh: )
Quote from: Matty on April 14, 2013, 09:06:47 PM
Darkflame: Yeah I think the hair cut just doesn't go in your favour, it either needs to be a bit longer and messy or shorter. It's looking a little well kept and feminine right now, it's like it's in that inbetween stage. Be careful about a buzzcut though as that can be quite drastic and you have a more oval shaped head and buzzcuts normally don't look so good unless you have a squarer face, it can end up making you look more feminine despite what you might think. I think your best bet would be short back and sides, maybe some tapering at the back but not SUPER short, and leave the top a little longer with layers so you can mess it up a little or wear it flat. This gives you options. I have quite wavy hair myself but I use straighteners to give me a more spikey look, or leave it flat, or not use the straighteners at all and gel it up for a more Ryan Reynolds type look lol. If you have straighteners and some gel, play around with that on your hair now and see if it can make it a little more masculine. Brushing it forward like I can see you've done with the sides can help, just beware of the Bieber look, unless you like that I guess. I think you could look good with longer messy hair, you don't need to have short hair. All guys with longer hair went through the awkward in-between stage so see if there's anything you can do with it first and then decide.
I'm so impatient, I can't stand that awkward shaggy growing out phase. There's a reason my hair's never grown much longer than this since the ninth grade :P and I'm not much of a long hair person anyway, I don't look like me when it gets too grown out :/ and it might look well kept but I really don't do much with it besides washing it and brushing :P Also, my hair gets really curly, I don't know that I could pass if it was longer :/ I'll probably get the back and sides cut shorter, I do want to try and leave length on top, otherwise it would just look too clean cut and that's not how I roll 8)
And also, polos seem to suit you. Looks good ;)
Quote from: Darkflame on April 15, 2013, 12:04:44 PM
I'm so impatient, I can't stand that awkward shaggy growing out phase. There's a reason my hair's never grown much longer than this since the ninth grade :P and I'm not much of a long hair person anyway, I don't look like me when it gets too grown out :/ and it might look well kept but I really don't do much with it besides washing it and brushing :P Also, my hair gets really curly, I don't know that I could pass if it was longer :/ I'll probably get the back and sides cut shorter, I do want to try and leave length on top, otherwise it would just look too clean cut and that's not how I roll 8)
And also, polos seem to suit you. Looks good ;)
Then go for the cut :). Go with whatever works for you, I was just being sure that you knew you had options. I really do flatten mine so I feel your pain with regard to curly hair. My brother has really curly hair but he wears it fairly long and he really suits it. And he kinda embellishes it for the messy look - he's quite the lady's man ;). So it could have worked long but it seems you're like me, you like short hair! It's so much easier to manage too, eh?
I feel you with the whole idea that you do nothing with your hair and it just goes and looks well kept! When my hair was long as a kid I wouldn't even bother drying it with the hairdryer and then it would do its little wave thing and would look extremely feminine and looked like I'd spent hours drying and brushing it to get the look. I was the envy of many a girl unfortunately! Lol.
Quote from: Seth_P on April 15, 2013, 06:11:02 AM
Thank you all guys. <3 I would say everyone who posted so far passes pretty well. (You look good in a polo, Matty! :laugh: )
So it seems the polo is a thumbs up I may have to go back and get some more then! Can't believe I can get away with polos now, it's opening up my options for the summer instead of always wearing an open shirt over my tees. :D
Seth: I second Zarathoustra, you are definitely cute and with the way you're being "funny" in the last one and hiding your face, is this maybe because you're a little worried still about passing straight on? If this is the case, I don't think you should worry as the combination of all the pics still suggest a pass to me. Have confidence :).
Leo: It looks like that binder's looking good. I'm jealous of your vest too. I've been wanting to were them for years.
Seth: Looking awesome from all angles.
Matty: I haven't seen a picture of you yet that I even questioned you.
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Woke up with some really bad bed head. and was in need of a hair cut.
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Hair down and then with the usual product.
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A full body
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Quote from: assorted_human on April 17, 2013, 08:15:26 PM
Leo: It looks like that binder's looking good. I'm jealous of your vest too. I've been wanting to were them for years.
Seth: Looking awesome from all angles.
Matty: I haven't seen a picture of you yet that I even questioned you.
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Woke up with some really bad bed head. and was in need of a hair cut.
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Hair down and then with the usual product.
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A full body
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Dude! There's a big Praying Mantis about to attack you! Hugs, Devlyn
assorted_human: Badass!!!
I even love the first pic, that's some pretty sweet "bad" bed hair! Lol. What can I say; I love the messy look :P.
Quote from: assorted_human on April 17, 2013, 08:15:26 PM
Leo: It looks like that binder's looking good. I'm jealous of your vest too. I've been wanting to were them for years.
Seth: Looking awesome from all angles.
Matty: I haven't seen a picture of you yet that I even questioned you.
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Woke up with some really bad bed head. and was in need of a hair cut.
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Hair down and then with the usual product.
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A full body
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Messy hair usually helps when it comes to passing, and your definitley passing here imo ;D The good thing about short hair is even when it's "messy" it never looks ridiculous or over the top, just like a style choice :P
Here's a bad quality video of me halfassedly reciting poetry: http://s196.photobucket.com/user/Crescent_Wolven/media/voicetest_zpsffba0d5b.mp4.html (http://s196.photobucket.com/user/Crescent_Wolven/media/voicetest_zpsffba0d5b.mp4.html)
Does my voice pass at all?
Hmm, your voice doesn't really pass, but you can make it sound more masculine by trying to talk from your chest and by using less emphasis. Try testing out by yourself, until you can feel the vibration of your voice in your chest. And in general, talking in more monotones will make for better passing. That one is just socialization and gets the best of me too if I don't pay attention :/
So I got my haircut :)
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I was feeling good about it, then I had a pretty horrible misgendering about a half hour after, so I'm a little shaken up :(
I like the haircut Darkflame, I think you're probably having more trouble passing with it though is because you have such a soft face and small skull in comparison to cisguys. I think you look fine in photo 1, but I can see how you wouldn't pass so well in photo 2. Having more hair in the other photos made your head look bigger; though I think you pass better with the shorter hair than the longer hair so I have no idea why you're getting misgendered more now with the haircut than before. :-\
Darkflame: maybe some product-induced spikiness/messiness would help. My haircut is the type where if I do nothing to it, it screams female (to me), but with some paste it gets me by pretty well.
I actually have wax on the longer top part of my hair :-\ I don't know if it's that I'm getting misgendered more, it's just the way that it happened was pretty brutal :( gonna have to stick to my hat strategy ::) (I say it like it's a bad thing but I actually like wearing hats :P) I wonder how much my face and head will masculinize. I don't think the actual skull structure changes, so I'm pretty much doomed to having a small head I think :( in the meantime I think it'll get better once it grows out a tiny bit, like just enough that my head gets camoflauged. Maybe I'll use wax or gel on the sides too, see what that looks like.
Quote from: Darkflame on April 19, 2013, 08:51:25 PM
I actually have wax on the longer top part of my hair :-\ I don't know if it's that I'm getting misgendered more, it's just the way that it happened was pretty brutal :( gonna have to stick to my hat strategy ::) (I say it like it's a bad thing but I actually like wearing hats :P) I wonder how much my face and head will masculinize. I don't think the actual skull structure changes, so I'm pretty much doomed to having a small head I think :( in the meantime I think it'll get better once it grows out a tiny bit, like just enough that my head gets camoflauged. Maybe I'll use wax or gel on the sides too, see what that looks like.
You look pretty good, being your age you'd look good in a baseball cap anyway, most guys would wear one 24/7 if they could.
http://m1276.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/jayrain97/D3BFC333-A0BF-498E-9B2B-805816A4DD7F-12071-00000E42D4744E48_zps8938afa5.jpg.html?o=0 (http://m1276.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/jayrain97/D3BFC333-A0BF-498E-9B2B-805816A4DD7F-12071-00000E42D4744E48_zps8938afa5.jpg.html?o=0)
hey everyone i thought i may as well post, very new to all of this forum so if i messed up lemme know >< this pic is like a year old since im not allowed to cut my hair anymore
http://m1276.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/jayrain97/877FEE63-1485-4960-915E-4017B31058FC-12071-00000E42CDF21E46_zpsd1cba9c2.jpg.html?o=1 (http://m1276.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/jayrain97/877FEE63-1485-4960-915E-4017B31058FC-12071-00000E42CDF21E46_zpsd1cba9c2.jpg.html?o=1)
Tis' been quite a long time since I posted anything, so here goes:
This one is most recent...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi581.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss256%2FRurouni_Mori%2FPictures%2FIMG_55552small_zpsbba00691.jpg&hash=877eb56b17ded8d60cd0de3c6648e62c577cf559)
This one is a little older...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi581.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss256%2FRurouni_Mori%2FPictures%2F005_zpsfece9d26.jpg&hash=233dd30bd8c4c20251feafe9a4256aaec6d5d425)
And this one was for fun. X3 Also my current avi, but I decided to put it here as well for opinions. I'm just curious...
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-Nervous-
Quote from: jaydenrain on April 20, 2013, 04:25:09 PM
http://m1276.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/jayrain97/D3BFC333-A0BF-498E-9B2B-805816A4DD7F-12071-00000E42D4744E48_zps8938afa5.jpg.html?o=0 (http://m1276.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/jayrain97/D3BFC333-A0BF-498E-9B2B-805816A4DD7F-12071-00000E42D4744E48_zps8938afa5.jpg.html?o=0)
hey everyone i thought i may as well post, very new to all of this forum so if i messed up lemme know >< this pic is like a year old since im not allowed to cut my hair anymore
http://m1276.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/jayrain97/877FEE63-1485-4960-915E-4017B31058FC-12071-00000E42CDF21E46_zpsd1cba9c2.jpg.html?o=1 (http://m1276.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/jayrain97/877FEE63-1485-4960-915E-4017B31058FC-12071-00000E42CDF21E46_zpsd1cba9c2.jpg.html?o=1)
I dead honestly think you pass! I like both photos. X3 Looking good~!
Pic including torso! Still pass? ;D
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Quote from: Seth_P on April 20, 2013, 07:19:52 PM
Pic including torso! Still pass? ;D
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Sure do! :D
Quote from: Seth_P on April 20, 2013, 07:19:52 PM
Pic including torso! Still pass? ;D
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Yes, off to the badass thread with you.
Edit: Seriously, I have a friend named Seth and you look so much like him that it's scary. You're freaking me out, bro.
Tom those are cool glasses but they look too big for your face XD Pass anyway.
You too, Jayden, and I feel you on the hair.
tom you look amazing! deff a pass :3 i used to pass but now i look like this:
http://m1276.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/jayrain97/F37410C0-998C-4183-A382-C61D2507930D-12910-00000E6C2AA9C440_zps69de94ca.jpg.html?o=0&newest=1 (http://m1276.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/jayrain97/F37410C0-998C-4183-A382-C61D2507930D-12910-00000E6C2AA9C440_zps69de94ca.jpg.html?o=0&newest=1)
my mom doesnt know because im younger so she gets mad when i have short hair so she says i have no control on my hair :/
you look awesome seth!
Your hair is pretty awesome, even long. Maybe you could tie it back and wear a hat, or just tie it back. Nice aviators by the way.
Maybe I'll post something later. But dude, my mom won't let me control how my hair looks and I'm fairly close to legal age. So don't worry, you're not alone.
yea i usually wear hoodies and everything but most of my friends that know are very understanding. unfortuntely, im only turning 16 next month so im stuck for 2 more ungodly years :/
Quote from: jaydenrain on April 20, 2013, 08:12:33 PM
tom you look amazing! deff a pass :3 i used to pass but now i look like this:
http://m1276.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/jayrain97/F37410C0-998C-4183-A382-C61D2507930D-12910-00000E6C2AA9C440_zps69de94ca.jpg.html?o=0&newest=1 (http://m1276.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/jayrain97/F37410C0-998C-4183-A382-C61D2507930D-12910-00000E6C2AA9C440_zps69de94ca.jpg.html?o=0&newest=1)
my mom doesnt know because im younger so she gets mad when i have short hair so she says i have no control on my hair :/
you look awesome seth!
Awe thank you~♥ I really appreciate that!
You're a near pass, definitely, albeit tending to appear more androgynous. But like, seriously, if you're only turning sixteen, then that's really great! It makes me excited for you and all the things ahead in your future! XD Two years more, though they may be up and down and sometimes like hell, will pass quickly. Besides, then you have that much time to explore yourself and your identity. At that age, you're lucky to be so self-aware already. :) Rock it!
Okay. So I really only meant to give myself a trim but went overboard in the front. There's a ponytail in the back, I'm going to wear a hoodie or something and if my mom asks my hair is in that ponytail. Anyway, pics. Ignore the mark on my face, I always either get cuts and scrapes or pick at whatever hive/pimple/random itchy thing is on my face.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FyHhJWbw.jpg&hash=8b6b3fa440fa783de36ff6c665a3f81a8d21b1a4)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Floy9SJc.jpg&hash=c43259778d1c62a3f1ee56f588df64a1cdc1cc22)
Pass? If somehow yes, how old would you say I look?
Quote from: Seth_P on April 20, 2013, 07:19:52 PM
Pic including torso! Still pass? ;D
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Definite pass!
ive known from about the summer before my 7th grade year and im in 10th now.i pass alot easier if i dont talk. my voice isnt really high but its just not convincing enough haha. my girlfriend said if i cant cut my hair soon she'll put dreads in like i wanted a while ago. im kinda glad i have supportive friends since i was first starting out, i mostly hang around guys so i get hand me downs and my girl is really nice too me and buys me clothes
Sorry guys, I'm novice here. How does this topic works? Can we vote or what? ::)
you can either quote them and say pass or not, and if not why or say there name before saying pass ir not
Quote from: jaydenrain on April 21, 2013, 01:26:48 AM
you can either quote them and say pass or not, and if not why or say there name before saying pass ir not
Oh thanks, I got it! Then I shall begin with you. ;D
In second photo you look like a teenage boy, I say ''pass''. With shorter hair, in future you wil look better I believe.
Quote from: Tom on April 20, 2013, 06:56:56 PM
Tis' been quite a long time since I posted anything, so here goes:
This one is most recent...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi581.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss256%2FRurouni_Mori%2FPictures%2FIMG_55552small_zpsbba00691.jpg&hash=877eb56b17ded8d60cd0de3c6648e62c577cf559)
This one is a little older...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi581.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss256%2FRurouni_Mori%2FPictures%2F005_zpsfece9d26.jpg&hash=233dd30bd8c4c20251feafe9a4256aaec6d5d425)
And this one was for fun. X3 Also my current avi, but I decided to put it here as well for opinions. I'm just curious...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi581.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss256%2FRurouni_Mori%2FPictures%2FIMG_5411small_zpsd41ba2ca.jpg&hash=737e46ec974e281c44a00b98f9f103cb8c925120)
-Nervous-
What's that on your hair in the last picture? ??? I think it doesn't pass, or just half pass. But the others clearly pass! :P
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on April 20, 2013, 11:28:32 PM
Okay. So I really only meant to give myself a trim but went overboard in the front. There's a ponytail in the back, I'm going to wear a hoodie or something and if my mom asks my hair is in that ponytail. Anyway, pics. Ignore the mark on my face, I always either get cuts and scrapes or pick at whatever hive/pimple/random itchy thing is on my face.
Pass? If somehow yes, how old would you say I look?
Max, I'd clock you as an androgynous male teenager!
Max: I would say that you could pass if your mannerisms were right, which they must be if you're passing to your classmates. Your hair looks unkempt enough for you to just to be a long haired guy. I'd suggest wearing t-shirts with rounder neckholes, or smaller ones at least, because low or pointed ones look more feminine to me, although if you're wearing the same one in both photographs then it could just be the angle in the second photo. I'd say that you were maybe 14.
Seth: You definitely pass.
Tom: You pass as well, but I'd probably think you were gay, emo, or both, especially from the last photo.
Yeah, same shirt. I took the picture on an odd angle in the other one. Fixed my hair a bit but I like to keep it scruffy like that, plus I'm too lazy to be bothered with standing there brushing it for an hour straight. My mannerisms are probably that of a 12 year old, blends right in with the other immature guys at my school. I'm good with 14, everyone is so shocked when I tell them I'm not a freshman XD
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on April 20, 2013, 11:28:32 PM
Okay. So I really only meant to give myself a trim but went overboard in the front. There's a ponytail in the back, I'm going to wear a hoodie or something and if my mom asks my hair is in that ponytail. Anyway, pics. Ignore the mark on my face, I always either get cuts and scrapes or pick at whatever hive/pimple/random itchy thing is on my face.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FyHhJWbw.jpg&hash=8b6b3fa440fa783de36ff6c665a3f81a8d21b1a4)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Floy9SJc.jpg&hash=c43259778d1c62a3f1ee56f588df64a1cdc1cc22)
Pass? If somehow yes, how old would you say I look?
I say you pass well! You kind of look 18-25 years old to me, but I'm bad with ages.
Anywho... this is embarrassing, but I needed to ask someone!
I'm not on Testosterone, probably won't be able to be on it at all honestly, but do you guys think I could possibly pass one day? I know I look very feminine, but I try to avoid it as much as I can... though people still say I look feminine! This is me with my hair behind my head, I was thinking of cutting it somewhere to this length if possible. The tie doesn't match because it's the only tie I have, and it doesn't match with any of my button-down shirts. I was mostly just practicing tying a tie for suits. I also just started binding a couple months ago. Do I have a chance at all? :embarrassed:
(also I can't stop having that "same face in every picture" thing, my face always does the stupid smirk that I do)
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Protip: I may look young but It's really just my baby face... >_< I'm pretty tall, though, so that makes up for it somewhat. I also have a very tiny frame, and I'm clinically underweight. Always have been.
CloudyKino: You don't pass to me at the moment, but it's hard to tell if you would pass from the photograph. Your 'delicate' build is hindering you a bit, but it's mostly your clothing and glasses which doesn't help. If you're going to wear a tie you'd do better to either wear it longer, or get a skinny tie (I have to wear skinny ties because I'm small, and they're more fashionable now anyway). Female button down shirts are also really bad for trying to pass in because of the way that they're cut, I wore one like yours and even though my chest was perfectly flat in my binder it looked like there was something there in the way it was cut. More rectangular glasses, maybe with thicker frames would also help, but I'm not brilliant with commenting on glasses.
Quote from: AlexanderC on April 22, 2013, 11:23:06 AM
CloudyKino: You don't pass to me at the moment, but it's hard to tell if you would pass from the photograph. Your 'delicate' build is hindering you a bit, but it's mostly your clothing and glasses which doesn't help. If you're going to wear a tie you'd do better to either wear it longer, or get a skinny tie (I have to wear skinny ties because I'm small, and they're more fashionable now anyway). Female button down shirts are also really bad for trying to pass in because of the way that they're cut, I wore one like yours and even though my chest was perfectly flat in my binder it looked like there was something there in the way it was cut. More rectangular glasses, maybe with thicker frames would also help, but I'm not brilliant with commenting on glasses.
Thanks a lot for the feedback! Ill go through these as best I can:
>I'm going to be getting new glasses soon. Slightly thicker and more square. Yay!
>The tie is the only one I had, it was a gift and I was just practicing tying them. I'm going to be looking for better suited ties in the future.
>The shirt is not my fault. I'm currently not allowed to shop for mens clothes (I'm not out of the closet) and these button up female cut shirts are the only options I have currently. :'(
>Also grrr underweightness is so hindering! I've tried pretty much everything to put on some weight or muscle It's been years, trust me, I've really tried everything. It's a family trait.
Hopefully one day I'll pass with the right clothing options. ;D
How do you look in slightly baggy t-shirts? Those are more gender neutral, so you should be able to buy them even in the closet. Same with slightly baggy pants/shorts. I think a slightly baggy t-shirt with some slightly baggy cargo shorts and sneakers would look good on you and, even if you don't pass completely, would at least make you feel more comfortable than wearing female-cut shirts.
There are tall, very slight and skinny males, so I don't think that'll necessarily make or break you. And a good thing about it is people with your build usually have smaller chests.
Quote from: Devin87 on April 22, 2013, 01:06:19 PM
How do you look in slightly baggy t-shirts? Those are more gender neutral, so you should be able to buy them even in the closet. Same with slightly baggy pants/shorts. I think a slightly baggy t-shirt with some slightly baggy cargo shorts and sneakers would look good on you and, even if you don't pass completely, would at least make you feel more comfortable than wearing female-cut shirts.
There are tall, very slight and skinny males, so I don't think that'll necessarily make or break you. And a good thing about it is people with your build usually have smaller chests.
You're certainly right. I normally wear loose shirts, but my folks don't let me wear them out of the house so this is my second best option. I'm also going to try to get sneakers, hopefully that goes well. I'll try getting a picture of my other button up shirt later to see if that one looks slightly better.
Max You must be passing if you are read as male at school, I think you pass but as a young teenager, 14ish.
Quote from: CloudyKino on April 22, 2013, 10:31:10 AM
Anywho... this is embarrassing, but I needed to ask someone!
I'm not on Testosterone, probably won't be able to be on it at all honestly, but do you guys think I could possibly pass one day? I know I look very feminine, but I try to avoid it as much as I can... though people still say I look feminine! This is me with my hair behind my head, I was thinking of cutting it somewhere to this length if possible. The tie doesn't match because it's the only tie I have, and it doesn't match with any of my button-down shirts. I was mostly just practicing tying a tie for suits. I also just started binding a couple months ago. Do I have a chance at all? :embarrassed:
Protip: I may look young but It's really just my baby face... >_< I'm pretty tall, though, so that makes up for it somewhat. I also have a very tiny frame, and I'm clinically underweight. Always have been.
I agree with what Alex and others said above. The tie doesn't help because it makes you look a lot smaller. I think you should try to gain some weight if you can at all, preferably by gaining more muscle mass. If you're able to, try lifting some weights, without being on T you'll most likely never look like a male body builder, but just having some toning will probably help you not look so delicate. I'd also try a different shirt, even though patterns help distract from the chest, the front pockets help draw attention to moobs, and going with darker colors (IMO) might seem more masculine than the pastels.
Yeah, I agree on the baggy vs fitted shirts thing. I know what it's like having a smaller build, inherited an annoyingly small bone structure from someplace. But a larger shirt and a skinnier tie to make it proportional to you and I don't see why you can't pass.
Thanks for the comments guys, and haha thanks, wish more people thought I was 18-25 or at least my age. Most people think I'm 12 or 14 when they see me, some think even younger. But today I made an exciting discovery of darker hairs creeping down into my sideburns. Mind over matter, eh? Also my hair took on a mullet style somehow so I'm going with that, maybe I'll take a pic but I'm too lazy right now.
Quote from: LearnedHand on April 22, 2013, 07:07:13 PM
Max You must be passing if you are read as male at school, I think you pass but as a young teenager, 14ish.
I agree with what Alex and others said above. The tie doesn't help because it makes you look a lot smaller. I think you should try to gain some weight if you can at all, preferably by gaining more muscle mass. If you're able to, try lifting some weights, without being on T you'll most likely never look like a male body builder, but just having some toning will probably help you not look so delicate. I'd also try a different shirt, even though patterns help distract from the chest, the front pockets help draw attention to moobs, and going with darker colors (IMO) might seem more masculine than the pastels.
Honestly, I've tried. The best I can do is "feel fit" but I've never gained any proper muscle mass. I've done tons of different things over the years.
Quote from: CloudyKino on April 22, 2013, 08:13:59 PM
Honestly, I've tried. The best I can do is "feel fit" but I've never gained any proper muscle mass. I've done tons of different things over the years.
hey there
unless you have a medical condition, you gain weight by eating more calories than you burn. Start tracking your calories and you may find that you are not eating as many as you think. try fitday or calorieking to start tracking your cals. try to get 500-1000 more caloriese than you need. I get about 4-5k a day and i am trying to put on weight. Its not as easy as you might think.
Quote from: chuck on April 24, 2013, 10:45:38 AM
hey there
unless you have a medical condition, you gain weight by eating more calories than you burn. Start tracking your calories and you may find that you are not eating as many as you think. try fitday or calorieking to start tracking your cals. try to get 500-1000 more caloriese than you need. I get about 4-5k a day and i am trying to put on weight. Its not as easy as you might think.
I have tried doing this many times. :( My doctor had to give me pills to make me feel starving so that I would eat more. I couldn't handle them though, they weakened me too much to the point that I was bed confined for a few days. I already eat a lot more than I should. I was going to go back to the doctor to see if I had a condition. It stinks because I look somewhat girly with a tiny structure.
Quote from: CloudyKino on April 24, 2013, 11:12:08 AM
I have tried doing this many times. :( My doctor had to give me pills to make me feel starving so that I would eat more. I couldn't handle them though, they weakened me too much to the point that I was bed confined for a few days. I already eat a lot more than I should. I was going to go back to the doctor to see if I had a condition. It stinks because I look somewhat girly with a tiny structure.
Yes. A tiny structure makes it harder to pass. So the problem is that you can not manage to get the calories in? Im not trying to sound condesending, but just type all your foods into fitday.com then get your total calories. 500 calories to your daily total and do that for a week. Then add 500 more until you are where you want to be. The big secret of eating more is forcing yourself to eat just a little bit past when you feel full.
500 calories is a big hand ful of nuts or some nice steak - you can do it.
Eating more when your body, specifically your stomach, is accustomed to not eating much can be pretty painful at first, but your stomach will stretch over time. Try eating more calorie dense foods that don't take up as much volume in your stomach to get the calories in, then adjust to eating in larger volumes slowly enough that you won't be in tons of pain. Like others have said, track your calories and plan out meals and snacks that meet your requirements ahead of time, it makes it more likely you'll follow through. Hope that helps you out ;D
FYI: Changed my name from Matty because I felt it wasn't obviously male and I'm now going by Jack, a name I had when I sneaked into a checking hockey league as a boy.
So here's a silly pic of me with a dude called Nathan Fillion (if you don't know who he is...I feel sorry for ya!) I broke my arm and got my left ear half hacked off in a film shoot gone wrong and when I went up to ask him a question during a Q&A he recognised me and said, "Are you the guy with the broken arm? Come up here! You all gotta hear this guy's story!!"
I was so psyched at passing that I actually pushed my nerves aside and went up on stage in front of 800 people!! This was about 8 years ago, but I haven't changed all that much really lol. I always worry about passing when I open mouth smile, I try to avoid it for the most part so I don't have many examples of it, but I ended up laughing here. What you guys think? Yay or nay?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg28.imageshack.us%2Fimg28%2F323%2Finterviewbynathan2.jpg&hash=17cd74bee0ae3ef34eb47469b82d0b208dc62824)
Oh and btw, the insanely cute and sweet Summer Glau was to my right ;). (http://imageshack.us/a/img580/3255/omghe.jpg (http://imageshack.us/a/img580/3255/omghe.jpg))
I'd say yay. And I'd say I'm a little bit jelaous right now ;D
Devlyn: Actually had baby mantids all over my room the other day. That was fun, cought 55. (made the wrong choice of NOT puttin the eggsack in an aquarium.)
Jack: Thanks My hair just looks long and awful just about anytime it gets longer, but I thought my hair did something awesome that day. But it usually just wants to round out my face anyway it can. Also, you look great doing an open mouth smile. And I thought you were laughing before I read to that part. Congratulations on meeting Nathan Fillion. That's really awesome.
Darkflame: For me short messy hair just means I'll have a guinea pig swirl right above my forehead. :/
Liminal Stranger: I think the second picture looks great. I'd say 14 or 15 on age. If your ponytail isn't too long, I think you could even pass in a beanie. If your mom asks just take it off to prove you have hair. The hoodie would work too, I just think you'd look cute with a beanie.
Quote from: CloudyKino on April 22, 2013, 12:20:59 PM
>The tie is the only one I had, it was a gift and I was just practicing tying them. I'm going to be looking for better suited ties in the future.
>The shirt is not my fault. I'm currently not allowed to shop for mens clothes (I'm not out of the closet) and these button up female cut shirts are the only options I have currently. :'(
You can get plain T-shirts in the girl and women section. But I suppose these days it might be harder these days then when I was little. But my parents never really cared about me wearing boys clothes.
Quote from: CloudyKino on April 22, 2013, 01:29:19 PM
You're certainly right. I normally wear loose shirts, but my folks don't let me wear them out of the house so this is my second best option. I'm also going to try to get sneakers, hopefully that goes well. I'll try getting a picture of my other button up shirt later to see if that one looks slightly better.
Sorry if this sounds insensative, but can't you tell them you really don't feel comfortable at all in fitted shirts. You don't have to be trans to feel better in about yourself in a loose shirt.
Quote from: LearnedHand on April 22, 2013, 07:07:13 PM
I'd also try a different shirt, even though patterns help distract from the chest, the front pockets help draw attention to moobs, and going with darker colors (IMO) might seem more masculine than the pastels.
Agreed
So I have a gig working as a stunt double and it meant getting my hair cut shorter than I've ever had it! #2 clippers for sides and back! So I sucked it up and got it done but because it's a style worn flat I convinced then to leave the top a little longer. I hate the short sides and back and I was trying to make the top work. The problem was the amount they had to cut means that there's not much at the sides at the top so an overall spikey look wasn't looking too great, but I tried a faux hawk and it looked a way better. I tried to get a pic sorta side on so you could see how short sides are. Ignore how fine it looks in the front corner, my hair has natural highlights and the way the light catches it there is probably why it looks fine/patchy in that area but it's identical to the hair at the sides in reality. Light also makes it look like I have half an eyebrow! Haha!
I've never had super short and styles I've had usually hide my hairline I guess. Anyone understand hairlines enough to know if this gives me away with this style? Should I stick to caps until it grows out?
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as always still not on T just wondering if i still pass or not those are the last pictures i took
warning : i'm not drunk cause everybody saw those pix think i'm lol
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Quote from: jossef-ftm on April 30, 2013, 08:32:28 AM
as always still not on T just wondering if i still pass or not those are the last pictures i took
warning : i'm not drunk cause everybody saw those pix think i'm lol
You certainly pass to me in those pictures
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This is me. 9 months on T. Do I pass?
Jossef, definite pass.
Deejayk: Pass but I think the volume of your hair and the shape might not help. It's hard to tell from angle but it looks to be a little undefined at the sides for the hairline. Although, I must admit that I'm no hairline expert myself, I'm wearing caps all the time since my hairline became obvious (pic above) because I'm not sure if it reads male enough! Lol.
Jealous of both of your eyebrows. Damn! I have pathetic eyebrows, they thin out a little too much as they get half way across my eyes, and no, I've NEVER plucked them!
Quote from: jossef-ftm on April 30, 2013, 08:32:28 AM
as always still not on T just wondering if i still pass or not those are the last pictures i took
warning : i'm not drunk cause everybody saw those pix think i'm lol
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Je crois que vous faites bien.
Dysphoia has been pretty bad lately. I think my face looks pretty feminine. I took this picture a few weeks ago.
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I don't usually check in with the FtM section, but in my opinion everyone on this page looks like a dude to me. I think you guys can stop worrying and get on with your lives.
~ Lyric ~
Darrin Scott - nothing feminine at all and that is a wicked hairline dude.
I know that there is already a topic for this, but it is very busy and I don't think I could quickly get a response (if any) on the main topic. I have been very insecure in the way I look lately, as I am somewhat chubby and have very feminine features (large eyes, full lips, round face). I don't exactly know how to post picture to forums and I'm fairly new, so heres the link: http://omnipsychedelia.tumblr.com/post/49763043176/and-now-for-a-photograph-of-your-dearest-blogger (http://omnipsychedelia.tumblr.com/post/49763043176/and-now-for-a-photograph-of-your-dearest-blogger)
I appreciate any feedback and please do not comment about my rather peculiar scars.
you pass ok to me, you look about 14 though. what's with the marking of the forehead, you going Manson on us or something :P
That's awesome :)
As for the star... Um, let's just say I went through somewhat of a strange phase...
Yeah, you're fine. I'd say you look around 13 or 14.
DeeJayk- looking good man. I think you look about 19 or 20 in that picture.
:o You guys all look so amazing! I wish my face was that masculine!
Anyway, this is me 'all natural', before T or anything;
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And here with some editing and giving myself a beard and thicker eyebrows. No changing in face shape.
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And here playing a bit with filters :3
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I just wish I had a beard like that IRL :(
Erik you rock with the beard ;D but you pass without it anyway.
Really? I pass without it? (probably not my age, but it's a start) That really made me smile, Jared :) I'm still quite insecure about my looks and pass-ability.
Yeah, for about 16? I used to see guys with that style and what I can see from your appearence it says male to me.
You look really cool, Erik. I think for me, whether or not you passed would come down to your voice.
yeah Erik, from the picture you pass as a teenager to me, about 15 or 16. Though, you'd look awesome with a goatee.
Good point there, Prof HB, I think my voice doesn't quite pass, unfortunately. I think it's on the low/mid range for a girl, but really high for a guy :(
And now comes actually another question... how do I even KNOW if I'm passing or not? People don't say "Hey boy/girl (...)" to me when I'm out on the streets, and all the people who know me obviously know I'm physically a girl.
Sometimes I wish I could look in people's minds...
Strangers are the best...I only know I am passing now because I get "sirs" from cashiers instead of "ma'am." Or guys calling you "man" who don't seem to be the type to call everyone that. I don't know what everyone sees, but since almost everyone says sir now, I figure most people see male.
Yeah cashiers are a big clue but also double takes. If you're waiting somewhere or on a bus/train, if people mostly ignore you, you likely pass. If they look then do a double take, it can suggest they see something odd. Might not always be the case for you though, your awesome hair might cause that alone! Lol. Some things do that anyway. I've seen a few double takes at my socks when I'm wearing my Marvel socks and even double takes at my Sheldon (Big Bang Theory) style Green Lantern shirt. So sometimes the double take might be for other reasons but it's one thing I look for. If the double take is followed by them trying to subtly stare, they're probably trying to figure out what you are. Don't get too paranoid though, some people are just freaks...or they may actually fancy you! Haha! If guys take an interest in looking at you, it can be another sign. Guys are mostly oblivious and don't take in surroundings so much, women check everything out more. If a guy keeps looking at you, that could be another hint because it's not as normal for guys but then, maybe he's gay! These are all just maybes, nothing definitive. The best and definitive passes are cashiers, bus drivers, people asking you for time, barbers, etc.
I make serious faces in pics cos I really feel like I have a girly smile... can't tell if dysphoria or yes and I should keep a straight face...
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Had to do a bit of a double-take reading your post. I assure you, it's dysphoria. I'd be overjoyed if I looked anywhere near as manly as that.
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on May 09, 2013, 02:49:10 PM
Had to do a bit of a double-take reading your post. I assure you, it's dysphoria. I'd be overjoyed if I looked anywhere near as manly as that.
+1 I agree, it's definitely dysphoria, he looks very manly to me and a nice smile beats the hell out of a grumpy looking straight face or a frown any day and is always disarmingly charming.
Whoa Ryan, that tripped me out for a bit because you look exactly like a dude from my work. He's the epitome of an alpha male and you two look exactly alike... so if I were you I'd have no qualms smiling ;)
Quote from: ryanronald on May 09, 2013, 02:26:00 PM
I make serious faces in pics cos I really feel like I have a girly smile... can't tell if dysphoria or yes and I should keep a straight face...
Love that sombrero on you :D
Thank you guys and girls...
It's funny isn't it how sometimes you think you've come a long way, and then you look in the mirror at other times and feel insecure/worried. When probably nothing has changed.
But so many understanding and kind people on here is a great support :)
Ryan, I assure you too that you pass just fine! :) You look like an awesome guy, and I would NEVER have thought you were trans if I spotted you on the street. Just sayin'.
And your smile isn't girly at all, just friendly, nice and contagious (I'm smiling myself now too, just from seeing your happy face :P)
But yeah, I have it too! I feel like I pass better when not smiling. It's all in my head, lol!
Because I hit my 5 month mark on T today. ;D
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WHO ARE YOU CALLING A CAFFEINE ADDICT?
Wow, looks like spending just one hour in sunlight tanned my arm a bit!
And baseball cap because my hair is awful.
@ryanronald
Holy S***, you look masculine as f***!!!
And SEXY msculine, too! ;P Holla! Lol
Man, looking at y'all's pictures makes me so mad at myself for further feminizing myself rather than starting on HRT. Because of my PCOS, I already experience almost no estrogen or progesterone and EXTREMELY high T (I have to take the same amount if not higher amounts of anti-androgens to get the same effect as genetic males trying to trans). My face is very androgynous, and I have thin, pale mustache and beard hairs already. I feel like if I had gone the other way with hormones, I could have become very masculine and sexy... =____=
Going from Female to Male is pretty well doable, so stop feeling bad about the past (you can't change it anyway).
When you get on T you would probably still have the same changes as other transmen. And I'm sure you'll still turn out a good looking guy. Amazingly enough most transguys end up pretty hot actually, lol.
Quote from: Erik Ezrin on May 11, 2013, 02:44:50 AM
Amazingly enough most transguys end up pretty hot actually, lol.
We are one of the sexiest minorities there are. ;D ;)
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One of the few pictures taken by someone else that I actually like. The hair over my right eye belongs to a friend. :p Cropped her out of the pic obviously.
My hair still needs cutting better. u_u
You're passing to me for sure, but not as a very old guy. But yeah, I suppose you guessed that, lol. ::)
Great hair colour btw!
Quote from: Erik Ezrin on May 11, 2013, 12:33:09 PM
You're passing to me for sure, but not as a very old guy. But yeah, I suppose you guessed that, lol. ::)
Great hair colour btw!
Thanks. :) Yeah, I'm 18 but I look about 14. :p
Quote from: Tossu-sama on May 11, 2013, 08:00:20 AM
We are one of the sexiest minorities there are. ;D ;)
Hell to the yeah!
Dovahkiin: yeah you look younger than you are, but I'd still say a pass as a cute boy. I'm 28 and I look much younger too, I keep getting directed towards youth groups with regards to FTM and keep having to say I'm 28!! So don't worry about it, it's the pre-T curse! Lol. My avatar pic was from when I was 18.
Tossu-sama: I think you always look like you're a care free bad-ass. Looking good, bro!
ryanronald: is there any doubt? Definite pass and a half. I'm jealous! (and keep reading cause I go into the smile thing).
Erik Ezrin and ryanronald: I feel the same about smiling! There's something about smiling that I feel gives me away but I've been told by a few people I know now that it doesn't give me away and some girls recently responded quite nicely to my smiling which was awesome. But yeah in pics I try not to smile a lot of the time; it makes me look very glum when I'm actually quite a fun guy! Oh and did I pass you already, Erik? If not, then pass!
Quote from: Tossu-sama on May 11, 2013, 08:00:20 AM
We are one of the sexiest minorities there are. ;D ;)
Haha! I just wanted to say, YES INDEED!!! My boyfirend is the sexiest creature on earth!! :D :D :D :D
Haha, yes, totally. Well, nature might be a bitch to stuff us into the wrong bodies, but at least we turn out as attractive guys :)
Yeah, Dovahkiin, I'm 18 too, and I usually pass around that age (14 on a bad day, 16 on a good day and girl on a super bad day) as well. It sucks, but it's better than nothing at least.
Jack, in your avatar I'd rate you around 15/16, and pretty good looking (and well passing) too. ;)
I wonder, does it get easier to pass pre T as you age, or harder?
I would think harder because usually beyond a certain age you can see someone isn't like 15/16 but a lot older than that. I don't know why, I've seen lots of butchy women that could pass as boys on faces, etc., but yet I could see within the blink of an eye they were women. How can that be??
went out today my friend snapped this picture just wanting to know if i pass or not. realize it's not the best picture
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^ You definitely pass! You actually look just like one of the guys I met today at my new job!
Charlie, I think you pass just fine. Have you had top surgery or are you just REALLY good at binding? Had to ask.
Simon- And to think I thought today since I was wearing an older binder that is a size larger then I currently wear that I looked like I really needed to bind more.
So no on the top surgery, I honestly could probably get away with not binding due to my chest size being actually rather small in comparison to my weight. I know cis guys who are about the same height/weight as myself with larger man boobs then I have. I don't quite fill an A cup.
Now if only my voice passed I would be set. But I am set to have my first shot of T in 11 days so hopefully in time I will have the voice that passes as well.
Quote from: Erik Ezrin on May 12, 2013, 06:57:25 AM
I would think harder because usually beyond a certain age you can see someone isn't like 15/16 but a lot older than that. I don't know why, I've seen lots of butchy women that could pass as boys on faces, etc., but yet I could see within the blink of an eye they were women. How can that be??
I still pass pre-T but I do get mistaken for a lot younger than I am. To compensate for this I dress younger in a skater boy type style. However, it affects going out anywhere we may get ID'd cause I haven't got a male ID (it's all very confusing to get a male ID when you're a Scot in Canada). I think if you tried to dress more your age and you're pre-T, it might not work so well. I love wearing things like suits, shirts, ties and a waistcoat (vest) but I feel I actually end up looking more feminine cause I don't look grown up enough and it looks awkward. It's been around 10 years since that photo in my avatar and yet I'm not much different other than have a little more muscle in my upper body. So I haven't really masculinised enough to keep up with my age. That's why I'm looking to T now and finding a way to get a male ID cause it's time to look my age AND go out with confidence!
@Charlie: You pass really well, I wouldn't second guess you and fantastic job on the binding! :laugh:
@Jack: Yeah, A few of my friends have the same problem, They dress more to suit what they pass as and get asked for ID a lot. Once, My friend actually got kicked out of a club for having a female ID, They threatened to sue him for fraud until he explained.
Quote from: ryanronald on May 09, 2013, 02:26:00 PM
I make serious faces in pics cos I really feel like I have a girly smile... can't tell if dysphoria or yes and I should keep a straight face...
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You pass really well.
I don't tell anyone that so, really, I wouldn't worry.
thank you for saying that man. seriously - thanks.
Getting ready for a concert. Looks nerdy.
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These were taken last night.
Do I pass? I'm on no hormonal replacement drugs, no T! :)
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Quote from: Seth_P on May 14, 2013, 05:17:17 PM
Getting ready for a concert. Looks nerdy.
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Seth! Looking smart. Love it! (Sitting here in a batman tee so 'mon the nerds!)
Matthew: You have a bit of a rounder face and with a short haircut it kinda accentuates that so I'd say it could go either way. I think the sunglasses go in your favour though, I'm not sure how well you'd pass without. I think it's defo leaning more towards masculine though so if you got the confidence in every-day life that you have in the picture, then you're fine. In your avatar pic I think you pass better with the hat.
Charlie; passing without a doubt. Awesome dude!
Jack, I think you got a good point there yeah. I love waistcoats too, though 'full formal' isn't quite for me. But I would love to be ABLE to pull it off, just for those days I'd want it, y'know.
Seth, you look great! But how is that concert attire? Just wondering... ::)
And Matthew, to me you're passing. The glasses could be helping as well, but given from those pics you pass.
@Matthew
I think you totally pass at first glance. I can only tell when I spend time looking over your features. I think you'd do AMAZING on T!
hey guys, so the swim trunks i wanna get are like around this length (maybe a tad shorter) but slightly looser probably.
what do you guys think? should i get ones a little longer?
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I mainly see guys with trunks that are a little longer, but you'd pass to me with trunks that length.
yeah, i want them to be a little short because i use them for laps in the pool too and i hate the drag from the longer shorts.
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on May 20, 2013, 05:46:28 PM
yeah, i want them to be a little short because i use them for laps in the pool too and i hate the drag from the longer shorts.
Hey I'm with you, those look good on you. I have some men's hawaiian swim shorts, they have a blue floral pattern and they are a lot shorter than what you're wearing, they are what we used to wear for swim shorts. I don't know how and when shorts became so long anyway, they ought to call them longs because they sure as hell aren't shorts!
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on May 20, 2013, 05:46:28 PM
yeah, i want them to be a little short because i use them for laps in the pool too and i hate the drag from the longer shorts.
Wear whatever's more comfortable to you, especially if you're using them for laps in the pool. Now that I think about it, I'm not even sure how long my swim trunks are, they've just been sitting in my house for years (I haven't really been swimming since I got them). I usually like mine a little longer than those, but not too much longer, so I guess I'll have to pull out mine and see if I'll be ok with them. If they're not the right size for me, they're just not comfortable.
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on May 20, 2013, 05:24:16 PM
hey guys, so the swim trunks i wanna get are like around this length (maybe a tad shorter) but slightly looser probably.
what do you guys think? should i get ones a little longer?
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Yo Ty, I think I know exactly what you mean, like classic swim trunks? Or do you just means shorter board shorts? Either way I think they'd look great. One of the first things I'm going to buy in the future when I start T and post top surgery is some cool shorter classic swim trunks. American Apparel sells some that I want. ( http://store.americanapparel.net/product/?productId=rsapa400 (http://store.americanapparel.net/product/?productId=rsapa400) ) I think there's something really manly and awesome about wearing trunks instead of long baggy board shorts like most other guys.
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Sorry the lighting is so yellow here.
I felt like my naturally black hair looked too out of place against my pale skin (much easier to pull off as a female), so I dyed my hair a medium/dark brown. I also shaved my hairline a bit because eff my natural hairline. You can't tell, but I took out some of my piercings (not the gauges, they just aren't in right now). I did drop back down in my gauge size, though. I went up to 3/4" the other night and realized that's too big for someone who either isn't female or doesn't have facial hair to pull off. :/ So maybe again one day when I'm masculine enough to pull it off.
Stiiiillllll trying to grow my eyebrows in...I've officially been plucking them for too many years. They should be so bushy by now.
Quote from: D0LL on May 27, 2013, 09:53:26 PM
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Sorry the lighting is so yellow here.
I felt like my naturally black hair looked too out of place against my pale skin (much easier to pull off as a female), so I dyed my hair a medium/dark brown. I also shaved my hairline a bit because eff my natural hairline. You can't tell, but I took out some of my piercings (not the gauges, they just aren't in right now). I did drop back down in my gauge size, though. I went up to 3/4" the other night and realized that's too big for someone who either isn't female or doesn't have facial hair to pull off. :/ So maybe again one day when I'm masculine enough to pull it off.
Stiiiillllll trying to grow my eyebrows in...I've officially been plucking them for too many years. They should be so bushy by now.
I have been plucking my eyebrows for years and used to wax them back in the day. They still are huge. I can thank my father for my bushy British male eyebrows. XD
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I was just wondering how old you guys think I look? I pass 100 IRL but I would like to know how old I look
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I was just wondering how old you guys think I look? I pass 100 IRL but I would like to know how old I look
18-22.
<--- do I?
The picture is kinda blurry Lance but I would say so.
Hm...its not blurry on my phone...dunno why it came out like that.
Quote from: Lance on May 28, 2013, 12:12:22 AM
Hm...its not blurry on my phone...dunno why it came out like that.
Probably because to be your avatar it had to condense.
That would certainly make sense. Unfortunately my phone won't cooperate long enough for me to post a picture. Ah well, I tried.
You pass Lance. And I like your new profile picture :D It's not blurry for me either.
Quote from: D0LL on May 27, 2013, 09:53:26 PM
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Sorry the lighting is so yellow here.
I felt like my naturally black hair looked too out of place against my pale skin (much easier to pull off as a female), so I dyed my hair a medium/dark brown. I also shaved my hairline a bit because eff my natural hairline. You can't tell, but I took out some of my piercings (not the gauges, they just aren't in right now). I did drop back down in my gauge size, though. I went up to 3/4" the other night and realized that's too big for someone who either isn't female or doesn't have facial hair to pull off. :/ So maybe again one day when I'm masculine enough to pull it off.
Stiiiillllll trying to grow my eyebrows in...I've officially been plucking them for too many years. They should be so bushy by now.
Your hair looks cool 8)
Thank ya Kyh. That's the most recent picture of me that I have. Glad its not blurry.
Quote from: Lance on May 28, 2013, 09:45:53 AM
Thank ya Kyh. That's the most recent picture of me that I have. Glad its not blurry.
It probably isn't on my screen, but I think I need glasses. I'm in complete denial over glasses or contacts, so I avoid it.
Haha, I can't function without contacts, so I don't have a choice.
Darkie, I'd guess you at 19-20 years. And yeah, you pass for sure, but you already knew that ;)
And D0ll, I think you're passing pretty well from what I see on that pic. It's a bit on the edge maybe, probably because of your eyebrows, but your face-shape looks really manly to me. I'd either gender you as a butch lesbian or a gay guy right now I think. Depending on mannerisms, body and voice.
Ok, I'm passing a bit, but not mostly. I think it's my age, as I can't look like a very much younger guy. I think my face has changed shape since I have been on T for three months.
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--Jay
Quote from: Erik Ezrin on May 28, 2013, 10:35:52 AM
Darkie, I'd guess you at 19-20 years. And yeah, you pass for sure, but you already knew that ;)
And D0ll, I think you're passing pretty well from what I see on that pic. It's a bit on the edge maybe, probably because of your eyebrows, but your face-shape looks really manly to me. I'd either gender you as a butch lesbian or a gay guy right now I think. Depending on mannerisms, body and voice.
I was 20 in that pic, it was 5 years ago. I look much more feminine now... Unfortunately...
Quote from: aleon515 on May 28, 2013, 10:52:10 PM
Ok, I'm passing a bit, but not mostly. I think it's my age, as I can't look like a very much younger guy. I think my face has changed shape since I have been on T for three months.
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--Jay
You look like one of the gentlemen that came into work today to eat! I work at a restaurant.
Jay, you look GREAT! So happy for you and think you're a great inspiration to the trans community. :)
Jay,
You look absolutely terrific.
I don't usually post here but I had to say that...
Yeah, I don't see why you don't pass (mostly, as you said in your post), Jay. You look male to me, I wouldn't even think about it.
Thanks guys!! I think I look a bit my dad, which is not at all a bad thing.
Might be my size (5'1"), lack of body hair and no facial hair. At a certain age it would be unusual not to have facial and body hair. Strangely I think that T has masculinized my face before giving me ANY body hair. Might be my age? This is my face pre and post T
--Jay
Pre-T: 11 weeks on T:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUjONLTW.png&hash=936cd0c9f549518479cd1970a98b141720e0b2bb) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOkry96S.png&hash=1bf674b38e8b65bdf0438329a36819570ae947dd)
Quote from: aleon515 on May 28, 2013, 11:35:21 PM
Thanks guys!! I think I look a bit my dad, which is not at all a bad thing.
Might be my size (5'1"), lack of body hair and no facial hair. At a certain age it would be unusual not to have facial and body hair. Strangely I think that T has masculinized my face before giving me ANY body hair. Might be my age? This is my face pre and post T
--Jay
Pre-T: 11 weeks on T:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUjONLTW.png&hash=936cd0c9f549518479cd1970a98b141720e0b2bb) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOkry96S.png&hash=1bf674b38e8b65bdf0438329a36819570ae947dd)
Yea, if I met you on the street I wouldn't suspect a thing. You honestly look like someone's father.
Wow Jay, you look really good. I don't see why you don't pass always. What I noticed is that your hands are so masculine :D
Jay, you pass, seriously man! You look like an awesome sweet guy too, you look better now than you did as a woman 11 years back :) It somehow fits you a lot better or something
If I saw you on the street I wouldn't think for a second you were a female, just sayin' ;)
Quote from: aleon515 on May 28, 2013, 11:35:21 PM
Thanks guys!! I think I look a bit my dad, which is not at all a bad thing.
Might be my size (5'1"), lack of body hair and no facial hair. At a certain age it would be unusual not to have facial and body hair. Strangely I think that T has masculinized my face before giving me ANY body hair. Might be my age? This is my face pre and post T
--Jay
Pre-T: 11 weeks on T:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUjONLTW.png&hash=936cd0c9f549518479cd1970a98b141720e0b2bb) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOkry96S.png&hash=1bf674b38e8b65bdf0438329a36819570ae947dd)
I remember seeing that pre T picture youd posted before, and unfortunately I didn't think you passed in it, but gosh, you've come far! Youre passing well now :) The haircut suits you and you look happier.
Quote from: aleon515 on May 28, 2013, 10:52:10 PM
Ok, I'm passing a bit, but not mostly. I think it's my age, as I can't look like a very much younger guy. I think my face has changed shape since I have been on T for three months.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FsqNp7TI.jpg&hash=74df07196c8ab406e9f60bebc05d1c55a79ff3a7)
--Jay
Hey Jay,
If I met you at Starbucks or out on the street I would surely clock you as a man, you really look great! The haircut, shirt and tie does if for you as well, very nice presentation! About body hair, back about 19 years ago I started shaving my legs, which I only had to do a couple of times and it never grew back. I think my lack of body hair is both age and genetics related. I had started on the facial stuff and finally quit that as well as it was pretty light back then, though I still give it a good scraping every day just for drill. So to me you look like a really nice, dignified and refined gentleman to me.
Thanks darkie, I'm 22 so ill take that.
Jay, you're looking really good. The pre t to now comparison is already such a huge difference!
Quote from: Erik Ezrin on May 29, 2013, 07:11:53 AM
Jay, you pass, seriously man! You look like an awesome sweet guy too, you look better now than you did as a woman 11 years back :) It somehow fits you a lot better or something
If I saw you on the street I wouldn't think for a second you were a female, just sayin' ;)
Did you ever see me 11 years back? :D The other picture is 1 *year* ago, which is kind of hard to believe as I think my face has changed a lot. Funny thing, my hands have not changed-- they were always veiny like that. But they are small.
Might actually be something *else* like body language or something. Long sleeves help a bit also but it is now about 85 outside!
(and a zillion in the car). Though perhaps I pass more than I think. I almost exclusively use men's changing rooms and bathrooms and never get a sideways look.
@M.I.G. Nah don't think I passed at all pre-T. I think I just posted.
@Shantel --body hair is an age and genetics thing. I kind of lost all my hair that I had at a certain age. I might actually get facial hair, have a wispy little 'stache right now.
Re: haircut, want to get rid of bangs. They work ok if they are combed, but I walk around the house and if I see myself in a mirror, bangs look feminine. Not sure what I'd do with it though.
--Jay
Jay:
I think you pass 100%! And I think your age is actually probably working in your favor, rather than against it. ;) I can't imagine how well you'll pass after just a few more months!
Quote from: aleon515 on May 29, 2013, 12:10:02 PM
Did you ever see me 11 years back? :D The other picture is 1 *year* ago, which is kind of hard to believe as I think my face has changed a lot. Funny thing, my hands have not changed-- they were always veiny like that. But they are small.
Might actually be something *else* like body language or something. Long sleeves help a bit also but it is now about 85 outside!
(and a zillion in the car). Though perhaps I pass more than I think. I almost exclusively use men's changing rooms and bathrooms and never get a sideways look.
@M.I.G. Nah don't think I passed at all pre-T. I think I just posted.
@Shantel --body hair is an age and genetics thing. I kind of lost all my hair that I had at a certain age. I might actually get facial hair, have a wispy little 'stache right now.
Re: haircut, want to get rid of bangs. They work ok if they are combed, but I walk around the house and if I see myself in a mirror, bangs look feminine. Not sure what I'd do with it though.
--Jay
Well facial hair is yet another matter, being on testosterone you can be assured that you'll have some whiskers. I use a tiny amount of T cream to have some kind of libido and even that causes what facial hairs I have left from several years of electrolysis to become rather course and I get some hair on my forearms which I never had before, my wife likes it. I'm not your typical MtF so it works for my cis spouse.
Let me say once again that I think your transitional outcome is remarkable, you look really great!
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46312417/2013-05-29%2014.54.15.jpg)
Just from hip to neck, not looking at the seam (cause this shirt is big and none are tight enough to show the seam). I was trying out a new binder here. I didn't like the way it felt but I think it gets me flat enough. Sadly it doesn't also suck in m stomach like a 997.
Nygeel, is it a tri top? Whatever it is it gets you crazy flat so that's great. I've been disappointed with how my 997 has been binding my chest but I need the stomach compression so badly right now, I've put on so much weight in my gut. You look great tho!
nygeel, looks great! yeah i always hated that about the tri-top, its great for binding, but made my belly look 10x bigger lol
It's a tritop, but the bottom rolls up weird so I just folded the bottom up until it reached around the bottom of my chest. It feels a little better but doesn't feel so great. I tend to just wear the 997 because the fat on my hip bones is...well...it's very there. Shirts don't fit unless I've got some binding on my hips and belly.
Was having a dysphoric day so I tried on some female clothing to make myself feel worse, was surprised to see that (to me) I look more like a very effeminate male. Pictriev says my face looks 95% masculine, I like that improvement :P
Pass for a guy in girl's clothing?
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Edit: ^Don't quote me please!
Hi Liminal Stranger :) You look like a handsome guy. 100% pass.
Quote from: kyh on May 29, 2013, 11:02:51 PM
Hi Liminal Stranger :) You look like a handsome guy. 100% pass.
Agreed.
Thanks, guys! It was a bit of an ego boost to have that go on after the events of today which were nothing but stress.
Liminal Stranger, you look vaguely like Joseph Gordon-Levitt! So yes, I would say you look like an attractive guy.
I haven't started taking testosterone yet, but I will in a few weeks. So I am guessing I don't pass yet, but will very shortly. Any input?
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I agree, Liminal Stranger, definitely pass!
Chris, you're very close to me! You're not a definite pass, but to me... you look male. That could be because I know you ARE, I'm biased, lol ;)
You'll look great on T for sure!
EDIT: I tried this Pictriev thing out, and it's pretty nice :P It thought I was 34 years old though :o Holy jesus! I don't look that old, just no way, lol. But 65% male pre T was still able to make me smile for a moment :)
EDIT 2: Wtf now it keeps saying 84% female! dgshfhggdfg D:< Wtf are you doing to me Pictriev! OTL
Thanks, Erik! You're right, you don't look anywhere near 34. But on the plus side, looking 34 would totally help with passing! Haha.
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on May 29, 2013, 10:54:57 PM
Was having a dysphoric day so I tried on some female clothing to make myself feel worse, was surprised to see that (to me) I look more like a very effeminate male. Pictriev says my face looks 95% masculine, I like that improvement :P
Pass for a guy in girl's clothing?
Could be, not a 100% cut and dried thing at this time, but I have seen cis males your age that looked a lot more effeminate and I'm sure that they hate it as well.
QuoteThanks, Erik! You're right, you don't look anywhere near 34. But on the plus side, looking 34 would totally help with passing! Haha.
That's what I thought too! People usually age me younger than I really am, not older! I don't get why it switched from 65% male to 84% female either D:
What did I do to offend that site, eh!? It just wanted to piss me off for sure!
Erik, is your avatar pic you?
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Am I good with the new hair cut?
Before (http://25.media.tumblr.com/91ce4b8f96baf529582ce65fc56b941e/tumblr_mmtdxnLXGX1qal7xro1_1280.jpg)
Nygeel, I think it looks good. I think thinning hair looks a lot better cut shorter. I've done the same now and keep mine buzzed or in a high n' tight since it's starting to recede at the temples.
Jay - I think you pass to me, that's a pretty big difference since you were a while ago. I stand by my statement that you're going to end up a as a Clive Dunn look alike though. If there was one thing that I could put my finger on that suggested you didn't pass, it would be that you've got too much hair for a man of your age, but hold onto it while you've got it!
Nygeel - Your binder looks brilliant to me. I wouldn't worry about the stomach, especially if your wearing your usual shirts with it. I also saw a photo on one of the threads, I can't remember which now, where you were showing off your shorter hair, and it looked pretty good. I've said it before, but you've changed so much over the last two years.
EDIT: That photo's now here lol.
Max - You remind me of a shipwrecked boy, so I'd say that was a pass. The shirt/scarf/pink thing(?) looks like the rags of a faded red shirt or something from the photograph. There is something which might make me question in real life, but I don't know what it is, maybe just the clothing.
Chris - Definite pass. T will do you well!
Yeah, it's a tie-dye/fade vest, was wearing a rather feminine tank top underneath without any binding and it struck me as a guy trying to pass for a girl instead of making me feel bad like I was going for.
Chris- I agree, T will do wonders for you! Though you don't look too shabby at the moment, either :P
Erik- Even with the beard photoshopped in I'd say you look mid-20's tops. Certainly not 34! You do pass, though, so I guess pictriev did get something right.
Nygeel- Nice haircut! Looks good on you.
Wow Jay, I just saw your picture and you look great! Very masculine but you have that nice dignified touch. :)
Nygeel--I love the new haircut, you pass to me, though you've always passed in all the photos I've seen you in. You look more badass though with the shorter hair IMO.
Chris -- you don't quite pass to me, but I know you will once you start T in a few weeks.
Max -- even in girls clothes, you pass, but as a young boy (which is fine since you are one). Did you cut your hair? I think you pass better with your hair the way it is in that photo than before.
Quote from: Nygeel on May 30, 2013, 04:24:30 PM
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Am I good with the new hair cut?
Before (http://25.media.tumblr.com/91ce4b8f96baf529582ce65fc56b941e/tumblr_mmtdxnLXGX1qal7xro1_1280.jpg)
I think the length looks good, but you should either get some clippers or a barber to clean up your hairline a little bit, just to get it passing perfect.
Quote from: LearnedHand on May 30, 2013, 07:29:33 PM
Max -- even in girls clothes, you pass, but as a young boy (which is fine since you are one). Did you cut your hair? I think you pass better with your hair the way it is in that photo than before.
Why thank you :P I got it cut a few weeks ago, it's been going through many stages of crazy and hasn't settled yet but at least it's stopped spiking in random and awkward places. Which is always nice.
Side note- today I passed to a dean in school, there was an alumnus in the office when I went to drop off some lost items I gathered throughout the day (lots of people lost valuables today for some reason) and they were discussing baseball. The guy is a big Yankees fan so we've both been disappointed this season, and he points to me, saying to the other guy, "Now he's what I would call a depressed Yankees fan," we all laughed but I grinned a bit harder than everyone else ;D
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OK SO. These are not the best pictures, and the first one I already posted, but this is for the sake of comparison. The first one is from about a month and a half ago - at 2.5 months on T - and the second is from about ten minutes ago, at nearly 4 months on T. I'm passing pretty consistently as far as I can tell, but you guys are probably more observant than my Oklahoman neighbors.
Your face definitely got more masculine, which is surprising to me because of the small time frame between the pictures. You for sure pass, but it'll be even better once you start getting stubble and all that :)
Quote from: democration on May 31, 2013, 03:38:50 AM
OK SO. These are not the best pictures, and the first one I already posted, but this is for the sake of comparison. The first one is from about a month and a half ago - at 2.5 months on T - and the second is from about ten minutes ago, at nearly 4 months on T. I'm passing pretty consistently as far as I can tell, but you guys are probably more observant than my Oklahoman neighbors.
Your skin looks a little less soft and your chin looks a bit longer, looking good.
You can see a HUGE difference in your face shape, that's amazing! And on 4 months of T? Dang!
I'd say you pass pretty well. MUCH more than the before shot (which also passes pretty well, IMO). With that face shape, I wouldn't doubt you if I passed you on the street. Love that you're wearing a Pokemon shirt, BTWs. You get extra points in my book just for that.
Quote from: democration on May 31, 2013, 03:38:50 AM
OK SO. These are not the best pictures, and the first one I already posted, but this is for the sake of comparison. The first one is from about a month and a half ago - at 2.5 months on T - and the second is from about ten minutes ago, at nearly 4 months on T. I'm passing pretty consistently as far as I can tell, but you guys are probably more observant than my Oklahoman neighbors.
I would have to hear you speak to decide if you pass or not yet. This is a tough one for me.
Regardless, I can see a change in your facial structure. Your skin texture still looks pretty soft to me though, more than the average male's would.
democration - The changes around the jaw jumped out at me, too. That's pretty impressive. Nice pokemon shirt!
Nygeel - That haircut really works for you!
LearnedHand - Thanks! (Your assessment matches my own view of myself.)
Liminal Stranger - Thanks! I'm not surprised that you passed to a dean at school.
AlexanderC - Thanks! I did pass to some people yesterday!
Sidenote: I noticed something about passing/not passing in the place that I live. I live around a lot of people who immigrated from other countries (like most of the world really, but I guess the biggest populations are from India, China, Vietnam, and Iran) and they typically view me as a man, which I greatly appreciate. ;D Americans tend to think I'm female. :(
Quote from: AlexanderC on May 30, 2013, 05:20:50 PM
Jay - I think you pass to me, that's a pretty big difference since you were a while ago. I stand by my statement that you're going to end up a as a Clive Dunn look alike though. If there was one thing that I could put my finger on that suggested you didn't pass, it would be that you've got too much hair for a man of your age, but hold onto it while you've got it!
Thanks Alex. (and LH) Well of course, not all men lose their hair. My dad had a gorgeous head of very white (I didn't get his hair color) hair until he died. But facial hair that's something else. It's very odd not to have any, esp in an Anglo. Given the diverse cultural heritage in my state I could just have Native blood. Clive Dunn is handsome.
--Jay
hey guys, so i just ordered a new bathing suit because mine is HUGE on me (not just the length but the waist too)
but im going to the beach on sunday with some friends and was wondering if my lower body (hips, butt, etc) passed
thanks!
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Ty, you pass without question.
Ty, you have a boy body.
--Jay
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on May 31, 2013, 05:07:09 PM
hey guys, so i just ordered a new bathing suit because mine is HUGE on me (not just the length but the waist too)
but im going to the beach on sunday with some friends and was wondering if my lower body (hips, butt, etc) passed
thanks!
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You look like a fit young man in board shorts. Your chest looks great too. Things seem to be going well for you bro, good for you!! :)
Ty...DAMN bro! Looking awesome! All looks great, & definite pass. Have a blast!
Quote from: aleon515 on May 28, 2013, 11:35:21 PM
Thanks guys!! I think I look a bit my dad, which is not at all a bad thing.
Might be my size (5'1"), lack of body hair and no facial hair. At a certain age it would be unusual not to have facial and body hair. Strangely I think that T has masculinized my face before giving me ANY body hair. Might be my age? This is my face pre and post T
--Jay
Pre-T: 11 weeks on T:
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Jay, I think you look great and you're proof to a lot of people that you're never to old to be yourself.
Also, some guys actually do lose body/facial hair as they age. Estrogen can actually increase in aging men. I've seen older guys with practically no leg hair and very little facial hair. Either way, I think you look totally male in this new picture.
Quote from: Nygeel on May 30, 2013, 04:24:30 PM
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Am I good with the new hair cut?
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Nygeel, I think it makes quite a big difference. Your previous haircut was sort of...I don't know, fluffy isn't the word I mean, but I can't think of anything else at the moment. A lot of trans guys can't pull off a haircut like that, at least not until they're years into transition.
Quote from: Arch on June 01, 2013, 06:42:25 PM
Nygeel, I think it makes quite a big difference. Your previous haircut was sort of...I don't know, fluffy isn't the word I mean, but I can't think of anything else at the moment. A lot of trans guys can't pull off a haircut like that, at least not until they're years into transition.
Yeah, my hair has a lot of fluff to it. It's just the way my hair grows, never lays flat, doesn't curl, just poofs. I really don't like my hair this short, but I was pretty sure my hair was thinning and decided to try it out.
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Feeling like I look really feminine at the moment. Do I pass? Any tips? Thanks guys
Quote from: Joey. on June 01, 2013, 07:13:08 PM
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Feeling like I look really feminine at the moment. Do I pass? Any tips? Thanks guys
You pass in my eyes. (Sorry, guys, I hope you don't mind a gal poking her nose in) Might be just because I can only see your head, though. Still, based on the head, sure.
Quote from: insideontheoutside on June 01, 2013, 01:51:15 PM
Jay, I think you look great and you're proof to a lot of people that you're never to old to be yourself.
Also, some guys actually do lose body/facial hair as they age. Estrogen can actually increase in aging men. I've seen older guys with practically no leg hair and very little facial hair. Either way, I think you look totally male in this new picture.
Hey thanks Inside! I really feel good and much more comfortable in my skin. Btw, your comments on hair loss are all true and also might explain why I have hair on my head (for now anyway). Body and facial hair are controlled by different types of hair follicles. And it is true that after 50 some guys (as well as women) lose body hair. Seems to be debatable whether or not T can help it grow or not.
@Joey-- I think "feathery hair" (for lack of a better description) can look a little feminine. I have this and it can drive me nuts, esp after I wash it. Hair gel to the rescue. :)
--Jay
Joey, I agree with Aleon that a bit of hair gel or pomade would probably look more masculine, since most ladies with short hair don't gel it (unless it's spiked or otherwise styled) while it seems like a lot of men put something in it, even if it's not really in any particular style.
Been a guy most of my life and Joey passes. Joey your hair looks fine just as it is, no pomade or any of that ->-bleeped-<- is necessary. Wish my hair was as thick, nice going my friend!
Joey, I aggree with Shantel, your hair is fine. BUT spikey hair masculinizes more the face, that's why I'll get a haircut soon...
But until that, do I pass with my new glasses? I'm a bit worried about it.
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Quote from: Jared on June 03, 2013, 10:11:38 AM
do I pass with my new glasses? I'm a bit worried about it.
Jared, don't waste your time worrying about it, you look good in those glasses, there's nothing femmy about them!
Quote from: Shantel on June 03, 2013, 10:26:25 AM
Jared, don't waste your time worrying about it, you look good in those glasses, there's nothing femmy about them!
Thank you, it's all new to me, suddenly I see the world in HD xD I'm glad it doesn't hinder my passing.
Jared, there's nothing female about you or your glasses as far as I can tell. 100% pass.
Woah 100%? :D Thanks Kyle, nobody told me that before (except my mom who doesn't count lol)
Quote from: Jared on June 03, 2013, 10:11:38 AM
Joey, I aggree with Shantel, your hair is fine. BUT spikey hair masculinizes more the face, that's why I'll get a haircut soon...
But until that, do I pass with my new glasses? I'm a bit worried about it.
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I suppose you pass, but the glasses are too big for your face.
Bit late but;
QuoteErik, is your avatar pic you?
Yep, it is. I only edited on a beard and made my eyebrows thicker, for the rest it's a 100% me :)
I guess that on looks I could pass, but somehow I hardly ever do (and no, I'm not so stupid that I go out in girl clothes, lolol, not a single cell in my brain thinking of that!). And my voice, it's so horribly high... NO WAY it passes as a guy's :(
Ty, your chest! WOW! I said this before, but it looks awesome! Just... amazing! Hardly any scars...! One of the best chest surgeries I've ever seen!!
Jared, you pass to me. If your voice would be fitting for a male. But on looks... if I saw you without knowing you're FtM and see your name/gender next to it, I wouldn't start doubting AT ALL.
Quote from: Darrin Scott on June 04, 2013, 01:05:03 PM
I suppose you pass, but the glasses are too big for your face.
I was kinda thinking this. Although, it could just be the lenses making everything behind 'em look smaller. My rules are that the center of your eye while looking forward should sit in the middle of your lenses.
I was thinking of this too :'D When I tried them on they seemed to fit and everyone around me said it's the best from the ones I liked. It took a really long time to put the lenses in and make it ready, since than I lost weight, that's for sure, might be the cause they seem to be big? If it even makes sense...
Jared, I think you totally pass! The glasses are a bit big, but you have a tall face, so you pull them off pretty well, actually. :3 Maybe smaller ones would still look a bit better, but you still make these look pretty good. I don't think many people would be able to pull off those frames as well as you do. I think the shape of the frames is good, but they either need to be thicker rimmed or just smaller in general (for when you get your next pair).
Ugh, I need to get new glasses. Mine are ugly femme (and unfortunately they were the best ones they had when I got them), I need something a little more masculine and hip for those moments when my contacts are bothering me too bad (also, it'd be nice to have a script recent enough that I could legally drive with). I definitely don't pass with my glasses on. :/
Quote from: D0LL on June 05, 2013, 10:33:02 AM
Jared, I think you totally pass! The glasses are a bit big, but you have a tall face, so you pull them off pretty well, actually. :3 Maybe smaller ones would still look a bit better, but you still make these look pretty good. I don't think many people would be able to pull off those frames as well as you do. I think the shape of the frames is good, but they either need to be thicker rimmed or just smaller in general (for when you get your next pair).
Ugh, I need to get new glasses. Mine are ugly femme (and unfortunately they were the best ones they had when I got them), I need something a little more masculine and hip for those moments when my contacts are bothering me too bad (also, it'd be nice to have a script recent enough that I could legally drive with). I definitely don't pass with my glasses on. :/
Thanks, your comment made feel better. I just got these so next time is years away probably. My old glasses were horribly femme too, and I really needed something to see with. I felt a bit uncomfortable but then I realized no one was looking at me weird, so it can't be that bad :'D
It's an awful photo, but it's the only one I have.
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I really hate that photo.
Not on T yet but i try so hard to build muscles to increase naturall my T i hope it works do i pass ?
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Quote from: jossef-ftm on June 10, 2013, 03:49:54 PM
Not on T yet but i try so hard to build muscles to increase naturall my T i hope it works do i pass ?
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Ur so badass Jossef, complete pass. Your arms look great!
Wileycoyote: thnx bro
@ jossef-ftm:
You definetly pass for me! Your arms look amazing. :D I'm kinda envious, trying to build up muscle here myself.
I seriously need to get rid of my hillbilly tan lines...
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If you're wondering what the hell are those shoes, they are called "reinot" (plural) and quite many Finns have them, despite of their grandpa-ish appearance... xD
They're very comfy!
@ Data Lizard, I like the A7x hoodie but honestly in that pic you don't pass.
@ jossef-ftm, yeah I think you pass pre T.
@ Tossu-sama, I think you'd pass a lot better with some hair right now.
Quote from: Simon on June 11, 2013, 05:11:09 AM
@ Tossu-sama, I think you'd pass a lot better with some hair right now.
Yeah, I kinda acknowledge that... I actually have a bit more hair at the moment since it's grown a bit. :P
All in all, having very short hair either makes me look unpassable or more masculine. Depends on the angle and whatnot.
And there's a certain length of hair I like the most but I can't afford to get my hair cut every month and I seriously won't do it myself (I managed to f*** up shaving my hair once). :I
Quote from: Tossu-sama on June 11, 2013, 05:19:40 AM
And there's a certain length of hair I like the most but I can't afford to get my hair cut every month and I seriously won't do it myself (I managed to f*** up shaving my hair once).
I didn't mean to make you feel bad about it, just doing what we're supposed to in this thread.
I hear ya on the haircut prices. I bought a pair of clippers a few years ago because it costs too much to constantly go to the barber shop. I keep mine either buzzed at a #2 (I get my gf to wet shave my neck afterwards) or my gf helps me do a high and tight. Buzzing your head yourself is simple at whatever length you like it.
^ Don't worry, you didn't cause any bad feels for me. :D
The nearest barber shop charges 15€ (~19$) for simple hair cut (not having to change the model, basically just getting the length even etc) but being an unemployed bum that would make a fortune in just one year and I have better use for that money. :'D
So basically my hair gets shaved off every six months or so. And my hair was supposed to be longer this time but we couldn't find one piece of the shaving apparatus which would've allowed it. xD Fail.
Quote from: Tossu-sama on June 11, 2013, 05:46:31 AM
^ Don't worry, you didn't cause any bad feels for me. :D
The nearest barber shop charges 15€ (~19$) for simple hair cut (not having to change the model, basically just getting the length even etc) but being an unemployed bum that would make a fortune in just one year and I have better use for that money.
Alright, good because I didn't want any bootyhurt on my behalf, lol.
The barber shop here is basically the same price as that once I throw in a few dollars tip. I constantly wear caps when I'm out so I don't see the point of paying that much. I can't stand my hair to touch my ears so I'd be going twice a month.
I'm an unemployed bum too (waiting for Fall classes to start up) so I understand.
Oh, I'm not the only who hates having hair touching ears. :D
On top of everything, my hair is naturally very thick and wavy, almost to the point of being curly... And I hate it. So I would need much more than just simple shortening which would amp up the price again. All in all, it's easier to get rid of everything and I'm awfully lazy when it comes to hair anyway... I don't have the patience to use any gel or whatnot to style it or whatever. :'D
Jossef, you look great! Definitely passing. I feel a slight jealous sting for your arms ;) (but positively, as I know it's my own lazy bum's fault I'm still so un-muscular, lol)
And Tossu-sama, you pass to me, but hair would definitely do you a great deal of good! :) And you're from Finland? I got a friend from Finland :P (a really good one), he doesn't really like it there though, and plans to move to Sweden sometime in the future.
Quote from: Erik Ezrin on June 11, 2013, 08:12:41 AM
And Tossu-sama, you pass to me, but hair would definitely do you a great deal of good! :) And you're from Finland? I got a friend from Finland :P (a really good one), he doesn't really like it there though, and plans to move to Sweden sometime in the future.
Then I must get these follicles back to work! :D *cracks a whip at them*
And yup, born and raised in Finland. :) I don't mind living here really, the area where I live is just... Well, it could be Finland's equivalent for the Bible belt so you get the deal. :I
Not to talk about inequal marriage law and some crappy law stuff about trans things, too.
I was at the park this morning with my daughters (3 & 2), when a group of children came over to say hi (age range 4 thru 7ish). They had a question/statement for me. "Are you a lady or a man? You look like a man!"
I found it a little strange as my hair was actually in pigtails at the time. (It's hot, my hair is shaggy but too short for a pony tail & I'm undecided about it's style!)
Anyway, that lead me here.
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Sorry the pictures aren't the greatest quality. Laptop webcam.
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five months post op
couple of days on T
Quote from: rightocaito on June 12, 2013, 08:33:51 PM
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five months post op
couple of days on T
A+ pass :3 congrats on starting T btw.
Me exploring with face facial hair and sidebinding with tape.... Do I pass? Not on T yet
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Me without stuff on Passable?
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Quote from: mikaelmackison on June 11, 2013, 03:51:40 PM
I was at the park this morning with my daughters (3 & 2), when a group of children came over to say hi (age range 4 thru 7ish). They had a question/statement for me. "Are you a lady or a man? You look like a man!"
I found it a little strange as my hair was actually in pigtails at the time. (It's hot, my hair is shaggy but too short for a pony tail & I'm undecided about it's style!)
Anyway, that lead me here.
Snapshot_20130611_2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/39573503@N04/9015906576/#)
Snapshot_20130611_4 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/39573503@N04/9015906536/#)
Sorry the pictures aren't the greatest quality. Laptop webcam.
Body passes definitely. Your face could too, for me it would decide your voice and mannerisms to tell your gender.
Quote from: Brock on June 13, 2013, 04:17:17 AM
Me exploring with face facial hair and sidebinding with tape.... Do I pass? Not on T yet
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Me without stuff on Passable?
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First pic passes, second is weird for me because of the angle. I guess you pass more when we can see your hair too. This sidebinding thing looks great :)
Brock; for me you don't really pass in the first pic, almost a pass in the 2nd i think it might be the glasses that are hindering your passing
Data Lizard: No pass. You need to take another picture somehow.
Jossef: You pass in every picture I've seen. You look like a model even. You shouldn't worry.
Tossu-sama: Hair has been addressed, but I'd like to add hair aside that your stance in that picture is very masculine.
mikaelmackison: Low quality, but it looks like a pass to me.
rightocaito: You just started? You look like you've been on T for a while. Looking good, pass.
Brock: I think you look more masculine in the first picture, but you don't pass. The facial hair was obviously drawn on and my brain couldn't look passed it. The second picture doesn't pass either. Take another picture like the first one, just skip the facial hair.
Quote from: rightocaito on June 12, 2013, 08:33:51 PM
five months post op
couple of days on T
Caito, you are...hot.
Hi everybody :) Do I pass for an 18-year-old guy? I'm pre-T and all that jazz.
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Decided to shed all the binding gear and take some pics, hoping to get an actual binder pretty soon. Not that I apparently need flattening at this stage, but I hate the feel of these moobs. They're all soft and stuff, blech.
First picture is my chest sans everything, pass? Second one just made me happy because even though a random shadow came out across my chest my hips look really straight which is a plus.
Organous- Not for 18 (maybe 13-15), but you do pass. T will work wonders in bringing your perceived age up to date.
Organous you totally pass to me!
Quote from: assorted_human on June 13, 2013, 08:50:35 PM
Brock: I think you look more masculine in the first picture, but you don't pass. The facial hair was obviously drawn on and my brain couldn't look passed it. The second picture doesn't pass either. Take another picture like the first one, just skip the facial hair.
Thats strange because the 1st picture is actually real hair not drawn on. Not real hair but still hair.
Quote from: Darkie on June 13, 2013, 08:56:11 PM
Caito, you are...hot.
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Quote from: Organous on June 13, 2013, 09:28:30 PM
Hi everybody :) Do I pass for an 18-year-old guy? I'm pre-T and all that jazz.
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Honestly, the hair makes it hard to tell whether you pass or not. But please DO NOT cut your hair to try to pass better. Your hair is awesome. You'd pass easy with it if you were on T.
Quote from: rightocaito on June 13, 2013, 11:01:19 PM
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Hot AND have an infectious smile.
I agree, Organous, your hair is awesome.
To me you pass. Not as 18 though, more like 15/16.
And maybe you should try something else than a goatee/round beard, 'cause I read somewhere that those make your face more round/feminine. And see if it helps to thicken your eyebrows a bit. They look WAY too neat for a guy! ;)
Dunno if that helps, but to me you're passing better in the second pic too. The first has a too high 'bearded lady' factor for some weird reason. (you're very close to passing though, like really close)
Liminal stranger; body looks totally male to me. So straight! And those small hips...! Great man!
Quote from: Organous on June 13, 2013, 09:28:30 PM
Hi everybody :) Do I pass for an 18-year-old guy? I'm pre-T and all that jazz.
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I know a guy who looks just like you! Even the hair. Pass.
So, guys, I just put a pic of my face on pictriev, it said 96 percent masculine. I feel pretty proud.
I'd say that you pass, Organous.
Body looks pretty good, Liminal!
And yes, a very infectious smile, Caito.
Hey guys im over here cause I've had some uncertainty lately about how masculine i look. I feel as if i look really feminine. I think its just me being hard on myself but i wanted an opinion from you guys. I'm 10 months on T but i feel i should look much more masculine. Thanks!!
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Here's one of me real scruffy
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You're not extremely masculine, but definitely a pass for me. I wouldn't THINK about gendering you a female if I saw you just like that! ;)
But yeah, I know the problem. Your own eyes can be deceiving sometimes.
And nice name too, but I'm the one with REAL dreadlocks here ;P
DreadLOX, You completely pass and I don't think you look femme at all. You do look young. I'd say around 19 or so. Could that be why you think you should look more masculine? Most young guys don't look that masculine, imo.
Quote from: Erik Ezrin on June 15, 2013, 02:07:16 AM
And nice name too, but I'm the one with REAL dreadlocks here ;P
I wanted to grow dreads so bad, but thanks to my genes my hair is thinning front center of my head! Would leave for some not so sexy dreads haha
Quote from: Simon on June 15, 2013, 07:44:18 AM
DreadLOX, You completely pass and I don't think you look femme at all. You do look young. I'd say around 19 or so. Could that be why you think you should look more masculine? Most young guys don't look that masculine, imo.
Im 22 so not too far off haha that probably is why. I take cream so transition is slower but it has been good to me. Ill take both of your words that I pass. I just feel my face has that feminine shape. Not all guys on both sides of my family have strong masculine features either. Thanks guys!!
Dreadlox, you just look more happy! :)
Your passing is very good!
Quote from: Organous on June 13, 2013, 09:28:30 PM
Hi everybody :) Do I pass for an 18-year-old guy? I'm pre-T and all that jazz.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/425217_186722374820569_596282336_n.jpg)
Yeah good enough, but a really cute one though! :)
Quote from: Zarathoustra on June 15, 2013, 12:40:05 PM
Dreadlox, you just look more happy! :)
Your passing is very good!
Thanks!! i guess it's just me hyper analyzing myself. I have no problem in day to day life, i just feel i scream female
Just trust me (and the rest) you DON'T! ;)
Nor will smiling make you look more female (sometimes I think it does, and I take pics of myself with a grumpy face, lol!)
QuoteI wanted to grow dreads so bad, but thanks to my genes my hair is thinning front center of my head! Would leave for some not so sexy dreads haha
Ahh man, that sucks! I know some guys who have dreads with thinning hair, and it looks great (the key is to wear them like the mane of a lion, and not think about what others might think). But yeah, it depends. Maybe I'll cut them eventually too, if the thinning on T gets too much and makes it look bad (short hair/small mohawk has been 2nd on my list for a long time too).
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Okay, I know I posted my pic before, but this one is a full body shot (slightly bend through my knees tho', and ignore the derpy pose and face XD) I like how straight my chest/torso looks here, but I'm not sure on my face. I just see TOO MUCH female in there *face-to-desk*
I should just take off these 'negative vision dysphoria glasses' *sigh*
I'm sorry...where'd you find female in there? You'll have to point it out to me, because I'm not seeing it. Same goes for you, DreadLOX. You both pass perfectly fine to me.
Erik, totally male, your face is maybe a bit soft looking but not female at all.
I shaved my facial hair and shaped it. It was long and connected all the way around my face and chin. I'm worried I look like a girl again. What do you honestly think? Am I being paranoid?
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I know I look stoned. It's just the flash.
Seriously Darrin, you have nothing to worry about. I don't see any feminine features on you whatsoever. And I think you did a great job trimming the beard, it looks badass.
Darrin - you look like every guy who picked on me in high school - I think you are safe - xo - Terri
Darrin: I think that look suits you best but I never really questioned your pass-ability!
Very handsome, Darrin!
Great looking Darrin ;)
The way you trimmed your beard is very badass. Looks good on you too!
Y'all look very manly to me! Erik, that full body shot of you makes you look VERY masculine! Your face doesn't even look femme in that pic. If I woulda just seen that pic at random, I woulda thought "Dude" without a second guess. :3 And Darrin, you've still got facial hair, no way you could look feminine with that! Haha! But seriously, your face shape is very male, I think you could still pass without any facial hair whatsoever.
Erik - You pass to me, the only thing that would make you look more masculine would to not have such baggy trousers on, they make your shoulders and top half took smaller, whereas most men have a V-shaped bodies with their shoulders as the broadest part. But you still pass to me with your current style, so don't let me change that.
Darrin - Definitely male, as always. You need to kick your dysphoria out the window because you're never going to look female again, hair or no hair!
Eric dude you look good man! Definatly a pass. Your torso does look really straight!
Darrin you always pass dude you look fine man I would not second guess you at all.
Erik, you're just adorkable and honestly what I think would hinder you passing would be your clothing.
Darrin, as always you pass just fine. Now get over to the badass thread, lol.
Quote from: Seth_P on June 14, 2013, 07:10:07 PM
So, guys, I just put a pic of my face on pictriev, it said 96 percent masculine. I feel pretty proud.
I'd say that you pass, Organous.
Body looks pretty good, Liminal!
And yes, a very infectious smile, Caito.
Omg, don't think that site is very accurate. The pictures I actually don't mind (such as my profile picture) came out as either slightly more masculine, or slightly more feminine (around 60/40-ish one way or the other) and the pictures I haate ALL came out as extremely feminine, every single one was over 90% (even sans makeup!) - in fact, the one I hate the most (cuz of bad lighting and a weird look on my face) came out 99% feminine and 1% masculine, and was the closest to my age (I was in flourescents so you can see all my features really well in that one).
It's weird, because it seems like, even though I like the pics I take in the mirror better (because I get to see myself while I take it and can make sure I don't look weird or anything) the pics I take head on (where I'm always making a weird, uncomfortable face) come out more feminine on this thing. Why would that be? Does the mirror distort my looks in some way I'm not knowing about? Or maybe it's cuz the others were taken head on, and I'm sorta looking to the side in my profile pic? I dunno...
Also, it almost always guessed my age at 24, which is totally WRONG. I am 18 >.< The closest it got was 23...
Quote from: Stefani2 on June 17, 2013, 12:36:17 PM
Omg, don't think that site is very accurate. The pictures I actually don't mind (such as my profile picture) came out as either slightly more masculine, or slightly more feminine (around 60/40-ish one way or the other) and the pictures I haate ALL came out as extremely feminine, every single one was over 90% (even sans makeup!) - in fact, the one I hate the most (cuz of bad lighting and a weird look on my face) came out 99% feminine and 1% masculine, and was the closest to my age (I was in flourescents so you can see all my features really well in that one).
It's weird, because it seems like, even though I like the pics I take in the mirror better (because I get to see myself while I take it and can make sure I don't look weird or anything) the pics I take head on (where I'm always making a weird, uncomfortable face) come out more feminine on this thing. Why would that be? Does the mirror distort my looks in some way I'm not knowing about? Or maybe it's cuz the others were taken head on, and I'm sorta looking to the side in my profile pic? I dunno...
Also, it almost always guessed my age at 24, which is totally WRONG. I am 18 >.< The closest it got was 23...
Don't kill my happiness. D:
Lol, jk. It even told me I was 40. But even if it's not accurate, I still am happy. I passed yesterday to some strangers, even with my female voice, but they just thought I was gay. I was just like, "Nothin' wrong with that."
Erik and Darrin, you both pass well to me. If I hadn't known, I would have totally though you were both male.
About to get my first T shot and a combination of bad stuff happening recently just knocked my confidence and I'm just not feeling it lately. No matter what I do I feel I look too feminine. And I've been working out a lot lately so I've lost weight but not where I'd like it and with weight not going in the chest and yet shoulder and pec workouts starting to show, I'm feeling it's very obvious.
Am I just being stupid or does anyone have any hints for next time I go out???
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Quote from: assorted_human on April 17, 2013, 08:15:26 PM
Leo: It looks like that binder's looking good. I'm jealous of your vest too. I've been wanting to were them for years.
Seth: Looking awesome from all angles.
Matty: I haven't seen a picture of you yet that I even questioned you.
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Woke up with some really bad bed head. and was in need of a hair cut.
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Hair down and then with the usual product.
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A full body
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hey there. just wanted to suggest a different pair of glasses. and maybe not too much product in your hair. Both of those things might just be me, but it wont hurt to experiment.
Quote from: Jack_M on June 17, 2013, 03:01:11 PM
About to get my first T shot and a combination of bad stuff happening recently just knocked my confidence and I'm just not feeling it lately. No matter what I do I feel I look too feminine. And I've been working out a lot lately so I've lost weight but not where I'd like it and with weight not going in the chest and yet shoulder and pec workouts starting to show, I'm feeling it's very obvious.
Am I just being stupid or does anyone have any hints for next time I go out???
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I personally think you shouldn't worry too much, I'd say you pass 100%
Jack, I know it is hard but try to not let hate bring you down. I was a target for a couple of guys for over a year when I worked third shift at a diner. I passed to a lot of people pre T but somehow they clocked me. I'm convinced that some people just have an eye to pick out trans people. Sadly they're usually the close minded bully types.
In your photo I would say you pass but to be honest with everyone here there is more to passing then just looks. Pre T a lot of the times your voice can out you quicker than anything. In many ways the younger guys have it easier pre T. They just look/sound like little boys. When you get in late 20's and older it becomes increasingly harder to pass because the youthful looks that helped for a long time start to fade.
I think you look great and T is going to work it's wonders soon. Hang in there buddy. =)
Thankfully, and I've no idea why, I have a pretty deep voice so talking actually helps me pass a lot of the time. I can't wait to see how much deeper it gets!
I dunno why my confidence is as low as it is right now, but it's debilitating!
Jack You definitely look like you pass to me, don't let yourself get down. Once you get that T in you things should start to change in your confidence, you're heading in the right direction man.
Hey, I'm new here.
This'll be my first proper post (excluding introduction), and obviously I'm keen to know how close (far away) I am to passing.
You all look so good to me! I feel a bit inadequate, but what the hell. I'm pre-T and all. I don't even have a binder, though I can mostly get away with that, I think.
My problem, as you can see, is that I like to dress like a dandy, which is probably no good for passing.
I get the feeling the hat helps. It hides what was probably a bad haircut decision on my part.
Pass, fail? I really can't tell anymore. I have no idea how to improve my presentation short of getting hormones, which ain't gonna happen till uni, so I'd be pleased with any advice I can get!
EDIT: Removed pictures for privacy. :)
Lajs: I think you could maybe pass as a very young boy in the first pic but not the next two.
I think the issue is that the clothing is fine, but given how young you look, it's just not quite right for the age group. Personally I don't even wear the clothes I'd like to. I'd like to be a lot smarter in appearance but I keep being told that the maximum age I look is 18 and for late teen years it just looks weird and eye catching if I wear smart shirts or dress pants. I somewhat meet a middle ground with chinos and plaid shirts but the more teenage I go, the better I pass. If I'm having a day where I want to look a little more grown up but still pass I'll wear khaki combats/chinos and a poloshirt but to sell it, I add the skater shoes.
It's up to you at the end of the day, my philosophy right now, and I only just started T today, is that I dress to pass, not dress to preference. Once I look my age (and have better weight distribution which will also help with smarter appearance) then I get to dress how I want. For me, I value pass-ability over preference. Not going to be the same for everyone but that's my 2 cents.
I think that look would go fantastic with a little facial hair in the future. I could see a hint of Johnny Depp coolness there for sure!
Jack, you took the words right out of my mouth. Exactly how I feel right now, basically.
Quote from: Jack_M on June 17, 2013, 08:43:24 PM
I could see a hint of Johnny Depp coolness there for sure!
me too, I thought he was cosplaying johnny depp's willy wonka before I read his entry.
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on June 17, 2013, 09:05:56 PM
Jack, you took the words right out of my mouth. Exactly how I feel right now, basically.
I look up to you, dude! You look real sharp in a suit. Can't wait for the day I can rock a suit like you, and because I'm Scottish, I wanna get a kick-ass kilt too! :)
Quote from: Elijah on June 17, 2013, 11:27:08 PM
me too, I thought he was cosplaying johnny depp's willy wonka before I read his entry.
For defo! The only issue with that is that Johnny Depp was a bit effeminate looking in Willy Wonka. Totally worked for the role and there's nothing wrong with that, but I could see a look like that looking real good with a trademark Depp goatee.
Quote from: chuck on June 17, 2013, 03:10:59 PM
hey there. just wanted to suggest a different pair of glasses. and maybe not too much product in your hair. Both of those things might just be me, but it wont hurt to experiment.
Actually in 3 of the 5 I don't have product in my hair. I have pretty much stopped using any in the past month. As for glasses it'll be a while my eye's are so bad my lens' cost an arm and a leg and any frames that aren't bronze/copper wash out my ginger face. Would you suggest a different rim shape?
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I envy you with a fiery rage ;_;! Meaning that yes, you'll be fine in a pool shirtless.
Thanks. Sometimes i have doubts because i have huge pepperoni nipples
Looking AWESOME man! That chest looks totally male (and so does your face, but I bet you already knew that, lol ::)), and I wouldn't blink even twice if I saw you shirtless at a pool.
Quote from: Jack_M on June 17, 2013, 08:43:24 PM
Lajs: I think you could maybe pass as a very young boy in the first pic but not the next two
I think that look would go fantastic with a little facial hair in the future. I could see a hint of Johnny Depp coolness there for sure!
I'm 18, but I really haven't changed much since I was about 12. It's a curse!
And I would absolutely love to be able to grow a Johnny Depp goatee one day.
Thank you for your advice!
You definitely pass. I looked at your pic before I read the post, and I thought, "Wow, how is it he doesn't have any scars from surgery?" Not all guys' nipples are super tiny, yours look male to me.
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Hun, you pass really well! I like guys, and I really thought that you were kinda cute... so yeah! :P
Sorry to drop in on you guys but you're definately way above the passing stage. Go shirtless and don't worry or feel self conscious. All I see is a guy.
Quote from: Jack_M on June 17, 2013, 03:01:11 PM
About to get my first T shot and a combination of bad stuff happening recently just knocked my confidence and I'm just not feeling it lately. No matter what I do I feel I look too feminine. And I've been working out a lot lately so I've lost weight but not where I'd like it and with weight not going in the chest and yet shoulder and pec workouts starting to show, I'm feeling it's very obvious.
Am I just being stupid or does anyone have any hints for next time I go out???
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You look awesome Jack! And I am totally jealous of the Headstones tee, I am madly in love with Hugh Dillon! :P
Headstones FTW! New album is kick-ass and Hugh Dillon is awesome; he's a guy that doesn't make me so scared about potentially going bald. Haha!
I have a Headstones ring too, I just wasn't wearing it at this point but put it on before I went out :P
I gotta add to the Hugh Dillon love here. I'm currently watching Durham County actually, getting caught up on the second and third seasons as I saw the first years ago. He's badass.
hey guys! once my hair grows out a bit im thinking of getting an executive contour haircut. basically looks like this:
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Quote from: ty.to.the.man on June 19, 2013, 06:29:26 PM
hey guys! once my hair grows out a bit im thinking of getting an executive contour haircut. basically looks like this:
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my face:
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that hair would look really good on u I think n also ur looking really good too.
Ty I think you could rock pretty much any cut and totally pass. It doesn't seem too far off your current style with the little part sticking up (looks that way in photo at least) so I think it'll look great on you; very smart.
Basically dude, you totally pass. Personally I think you've already reached that awesome stage that I can only dream of right now. While I'd say you look young (maybe you are anyway), you definitely look male, just no question! Combined with your awesome top surgery results, I say get your ass out there and wear what you want, and have your hair how you want it. There's no need to dress or worry about what haircuts to get to pass now, bro. Enjoy it! :)
Quote from: Lajs on June 17, 2013, 04:38:03 PM
Hey, I'm new here.
This'll be my first proper post (excluding introduction), and obviously I'm keen to know how close (far away) I am to passing.
You all look so good to me! I feel a bit inadequate, but what the hell. I'm pre-T and all. I don't even have a binder, though I can mostly get away with that, I think.
You could easily pass with ordinary outfits, short hair and maybe without glasses. Even with some beard, you would remind me of Johnny Depp. ;)
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Seth- PASS for sure, in this picture at least.
Seth you're looking great man.
Seth, definitely passing. And looking good too!
And Ty, dude, you'd even pass with LONG hair, seriously! You look that male! I wouldn't EVER gender you anything differently than 'he' even if you were stupid enough to wear a DRESS outside! (I'd probably think you were a travestite or even MtF, lol)
You're WAY beyond the 'passing' stage! ;)
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on June 19, 2013, 06:29:26 PM
hey guys! once my hair grows out a bit im thinking of getting an executive contour haircut. basically looks like this:
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my face:
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Get out of the "do I pass tread", you pass perfectly :3. And dude, you will look good no matter what hairstyle you choose c; You kinda remind me of Tyler Dale form american restoration.
Thanks for all the replies everyone! Definitely gonna go for that type of haircut near end of summer ;D
Okay guys, just got my new glasses! What do you think?
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Do they help? Don't help? I'm not yet certain about it myself, but they were looking the least feminine and horrible on my face in the shop
(dreads tied back, not cut off ;) like someone on FB thought, lol!)
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Pass in a suit? First suit I've ever worn, actually. I'm standing next to a tall friend here, sorry for the terrible editing job but I couldn't crop away more of the image.
PixieBoy, to me you definitely pass in that pic. Even your face just looks so male to me! Awesome, looking good!
Erik - You completely pass for me, though you look young. I think the glasses help, too!
PixieBoy - From what I can see you look totally cis.
I'm a little over 6 months on T now, and working on growing my hair out. I want to see if I can still rock shoulder-length hair.
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^ Found some eyeliner and decided to put it on since I'm back to wearing contacts now. I think I look like a fatter Adam Lambert, but I might just be vain. I got a lot of odd looks when I went into Burger King later that day. ;D
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^ Just taken maybe five minutes ago. It's late and I'm stressed from job hunting. I think it's obvious that I'm losing weight, though, because the shirt that I'm wearing was pretty slim-fitting when I first bought it, and now it's looking ridiculously baggy on me! Hurrah.
I still don't do anything to my eyebrows (never have), but they refuse to grow in!
You look sort of andro/fem male to me, it's the eyebrows, I think.
In the upper picture I think you look more female, and in the lower more male, but if your voice is low as well, I'd probably still gender you as male or just DON'T KNOW, lol.
have been gendered a few times in the last few days, a little worried about my passing. all my family keep saying i look like my dad
me at 22 (now)
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Quote from: Justin 21 on June 25, 2013, 04:32:11 AM
have been gendered a few times in the last few days, a little worried about my passing. all my family keep saying i look like my dad
me at 22 (now)
You do Justin, won't be long before you should replicate him perfectly!
Looking good, and yeah I agree! You DO look like your dad!
And I honestly cannot understand how ANYONE could EVER gender you as female. You are completely passing to me! ;)
please don't quote the photo!!!
I'm not mad keen on having my photo on the Internet so ill be taking it down soon. Just want some people's opinions, I've been on T 1 year 4 months. I pass at college but I don't know...I think my face is girly so I'd like some honest opinions please =]
Girly? You dont look even remotely feminine. You pass, that says it all
Seriously none of you have anything to worry about, wish I could say the same :P
Siege: I agree with Erik here. You look a bit androgynous and yeah, the eyebrows don't help. However, voice and confidence go a long way so if you're confident and sound like a man, then it can diminish anything that's perhaps questionable. Perhaps T still has to do some work on your eyebrows? Did they change at all? Were they initially quite thin there or anything? I think for now, if I were you, I'd stay away from shoulder length hair but each to their own.
Justin: You pass to me, brother. And I LOVE the shirt too! 'mon the Scots!
Jam: Total pass. You don't look even remotely girly. And don't worry too much about people quoting your pic, once you take it down it disappears from quoted pic too, but it does help keep a cleaner looking forum. Just in case it does happen, don't want you freaking out :)
Cheers guys maybe I'm just being paranoid >.<
Quote from: Jack_M on June 25, 2013, 04:05:55 PM
Siege: I agree with Erik here. You look a bit androgynous and yeah, the eyebrows don't help. However, voice and confidence go a long way so if you're confident and sound like a man, then it can diminish anything that's perhaps questionable. Perhaps T still has to do some work on your eyebrows? Did they change at all? Were they initially quite thin there or anything? I think for now, if I were you, I'd stay away from shoulder length hair but each to their own.
Justin: You pass to me, brother. And I LOVE the shirt too! 'mon the Scots!
Jam: Total pass. You don't look even remotely girly. And don't worry too much about people quoting your pic, once you take it down it disappears from quoted pic too, but it does help keep a cleaner looking forum. Just in case it does happen, don't want you freaking out :)
My eyebrows've looked like this for as long as I can remember. They're the only spots of hair that haven't changed at all on my face. I've been told to fill them out with eyeshadow, but I'm paranoid that it'd end up running with how much I sweat.
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Justin, yes I think you pass. Maybe it's your mannerisms or something else that is getting you misgendered?
Max, you look great buddy. If I seen you in public I'd never think you weren't a run of the mill cis boy.
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on June 25, 2013, 11:40:16 PM
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Showing off more of a headshot plus the first tie I tied ;D
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Full-body shot, sort of (I'm not that endowed in the midsection but the angle my back is on in the picture sure makes it look that way XD)
Pass?
Uh I think you could do as a young guy but maybe with a different hairstyle. With one you have now I think you still could or at least people might not be sure.
^
I think you pass, even with the hairstyle. Just a bit young-ish, that's all.
And the tie looks good! I'm going to tie my first tie tomorrow. See what kind of crazy sort-of tie resembling thing I'll end up with, lol! ::)
Liminal, I like the hair! You kind of remind me of a guy I went to school with. You pass for your age range, maybe a tad young-looking but it's no biggie.
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on June 25, 2013, 11:40:16 PM
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Showing off more of a headshot plus the first tie I tied ;D
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Full-body shot, sort of (I'm not that endowed in the midsection but the angle my back is on in the picture sure makes it look that way XD)
Pass?
Hey Max, You're a cute boy kid, it is what it is and when you get older you'll probably look like a real badass! But you look either tired or you've been puffing on a fattie. Hey your Auntie Shan wasn't born yesterday sonny! Nice pix Max! :)
hey Max, you pass to me and you remind me of Conor Oberst, lead singer of Bright Eyes
which is pretty great, cause he's pretty cool.
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Hey everyone,
Been a while since I posted and I hope to post more in the future again.
I will be going to the barber next week and am considering a new haircut. I've been having somewhat spiky hair but after a while it pretty much always goes more flat again. If anyone could give me tips on what hairstyle to choose it would be much appreciated, something that could last looking ok for a while would be great. Tips for anything else are great too. I recently started doing weight lifting, push-ups and climbing (the latter happens depending on when my dad can come to pick me up, so at the moment I climb once in the two weeks), so I hope to have broader shoulders and such soon.
Recent photographs:
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Older photographs:
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Looking good Bryan! Your face looks really masculine to me. I wouldn't even THINK about gendering you as female on the street.
Are you on T? As your face itself really looks a lot more male compared to the older pics.
Wow, thank you so much! That really brought a huge smile on my face. And yeah, I happen to be seen as a boy a lot by strangers.
And no I wish I were on T! Maybe it's the angle I took the photograph on though. On the front view I think my face isn't very masculine. However in the past people had been saying I had a smallish face and only a few years ago it got more round according to especially my mother (I honestly wasn't really happy hearing that and then began to realize it). But yeah now that you've mentioned it the first photograph does look a bit more masculine, but I don't think the second does. xD
It's all up in your head bro, really ;)
The first one looks most masculine indeed (your jawline and nose... dude! I'm so jealous! My face is so soft and such, my mum continually calls it "cute" and "lovely" and ->-bleeped-<- like that... *deep sigh*)
I wouldn't even believe it if you told me you were a girl if you showed me the first pic. I'd just be like "Dude! I'm not THAT stupid! I can see you aren't!", and even the second looks really good to me, though the first one is best, I agree. I really looked at them VERY hard, but cannot see a "girl" in your face!
If you said you were on T for a couple of months I'd have believed it right away!
Thanks a lot man, that makes me feel a lot more certain about myself.
In one situation where I'm at a painting club, I had been introduced as male and I'm pretty sure everyone believes it. (only when my mom came in to pick me up and said I was 18 they frowned and said they thought I was like 15 or something, and they asked how I looked so young and my mom said that it's in the family, lol. No idea if that's true but it worked and I didn't got anymore questions)
Aw yeah I really hope I can get on T soon when I return to the gender clinic again, I just can't wait but I must.
Oof I wouldn't be able to stand hearing such words like your mom says. It can make me react sometimes a bit explosive if that were said, and I always try to correct people if they say something I don't like. (though it often also depends on the situation) Also I had seen your photographs and I think you really pass well too, you've got an awesome hairstyle. :]
Total pass Bryan. I get the same thing about looking young and I'm 28! A new guy at Taekwon-do didn't even question my gender when I said my name but was shocked that I was a senior (18+).
Max: Looking good bro, but yeah you look real tired in first pic. Also watch large ties. Better to pull them quite tight as loose ties kinda accentuate a small head, which most guys don't have. I have a super tiny head so I avoid making it look any smaller where poss! Lol. I NEVER leave tags on caps. No one should know that it's a XS or kids cap! Haha!
Haha, it was the smallest one I could find because I completely forgot about our teacher saying "no bowties", meaning my mom and I just ran over to the tie section in a store and grabbed what looked small enough. I do happen to be rather tired in that picture (rather than under the influence of a certain plant-based substance I'm most likely allergic to anyway), simply for the fact that I spent a bit over ten hours rehearsing and then performing at the graduation concert. Playing Pomp and Circumstance 67 times does some nasty things to your wrist. Luckily the school year is over so I can maybe catch some shuteye- also the hairstyle is just however my headlawn decides to fall for the day :P
Bryan- Looking awesome! I agree with Erik, your face does look more masculine in the more recent pics.
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on June 26, 2013, 07:28:37 PM
Haha, it was the smallest one I could find because I completely forgot about our teacher saying "no bowties", meaning my mom and I just ran over to the tie section in a store and grabbed what looked small enough. I do happen to be rather tired in that picture (rather than under the influence of a certain plant-based substance I'm most likely allergic to anyway), simply for the fact that I spent a bit over ten hours rehearsing and then performing at the graduation concert. Playing Pomp and Circumstance 67 times does some nasty things to your wrist. Luckily the school year is over so I can maybe catch some shuteye- also the hairstyle is just however my headlawn decides to fall for the day :P
Bryan- Looking awesome! I agree with Erik, your face does look more masculine in the more recent pics.
Size of the tie doesn't matter so much, you just need to pull it into a tighter knot, it just looks really loose. Bottom of tie can come to just a little above the top of your pants. Look up some YouTube vids for some advice on how to wear them and how to tell where to start the knot. I used to wear ties every day to school so I forget that a lot of guys aren't used to them. Lol
QuoteTotal pass Bryan. I get the same thing about looking young and I'm 28! A new guy at Taekwon-do didn't even question my gender when I said my name but was shocked that I was a senior (18+).
QuoteBryan- Looking awesome! I agree with Erik, your face does look more masculine in the more recent pics.
Thanks guys. It makes me feel a lot more confident about myself. :] Lol, I have no idea how my face began to look more masculine... I think those older photographs are from one year ago. Also the middle recent photograph was also taken a bit from below (because I had a low platform for the camera) and I noticed when looking straight at myself it looks slightly different. Maybe should take a better front photograph.
I just recently got my hair done :) I'll post both. In my opinion, I look more like a teenage boy (like, 16 or something). I'm 22 :P
(Keep in mind I haven't started T yet)
Before hair revamp! :D
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After hair revamp! It's going to be Teal soon! :D
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I have a horrible Hat Obsession...
QuoteThanks guys. It makes me feel a lot more confident about myself. :] Lol, I have no idea how my face began to look more masculine... I think those older photographs are from one year ago. Also the middle recent photograph was also taken a bit from below (because I had a low platform for the camera) and I noticed when looking straight at myself it looks slightly different. Maybe should take a better front photograph.
Great! You should! You look great, especially pre T!
And the age thing is something a lot of pre T transguys suffer from, unfortunately (even as a 'girl' people thought I was around 16! *facepalm*)
Ahh I'm so looking forward to finally getting on T, but damn! It will take so long...! I'm not even in therapy yet, so it'll take more than a year, probably. :(
Clockpunk, you definitely pass, but like you said; more like a teenage boy. Like usual for pre-T transguys...
And guys! I just managed to properly tie my first tie! :D Yay! Achievement!
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Frankly I think I pass pretty badly in this picture... :/ *smashes dysphoria glasses*
Quote from: Erik Ezrin on June 27, 2013, 06:32:10 AM
Clockpunk, you definitely pass, but like you said; more like a teenage boy. Like usual for pre-T transguys...
If only customers felt the same at work! I'm really happy to hear this :) I admit I was nervous about this thread and hesitated for a really long time, but I see it was all for naught! Thank you :)
Quote from: Erik Ezrin on June 27, 2013, 06:32:10 AM
And guys! I just managed to properly tie my first tie! :D Yay! Achievement!
Congrats!! I still can't do it...
Yep, I was struggling with the knot. Going to have to practice tying it tighter because my hands aren't the greatest at motor skills (irony: I play lots of instruments).
Clockpunk and Erik- you both look pretty young, but good! Also congrats on tying your first tie, you did better than me at it :P
Clockpunk passes great in my opinion too.
Here's a better frontal photograph, though my camera had a bit of a blur on the lens so it ain't the greatest quality, but better than the previous front picture nonetheless.
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Here are some older pictures of me (like 13)... Im Jesse by the way
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recent pictures are coming soon
well heres one recent one made it yesterday
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Hey Jesse,
Even in the older photographs you pass very well as a young boy, and in the recent photograph you are very passable but I already told you that. (To everyone else, I know Jesse in rl)
I'm gonna post a lot of older photographs I've found in my blog soon. Suddenly I find it to be a lot less worse to see myself on photographs.
Jesse- You pass perfectly! Even in the older pictures there is nothing in your face that says "girl" anywhere.
Quote from: Bryan K. on June 27, 2013, 01:40:13 PM
Hey Jesse,
Even in the older photographs you pass very well as a young boy, and in the recent photograph you are very passable but I already told you that. (To everyone else, I know Jesse in rl)
I'm gonna post a lot of older photographs I've found in my blog thread soon. Suddenly I find it to be a lot less worse to see myself on photographs.
Thank you very much Bryan
You're very welcome, Jesse.
Photographs have been uploaded to my website. If anyone's interested, you can find them in the link on my signature, and then on the 'Click Here' link underneath the Photography Timeline title in the sidebar.
as always still no T yet that how i was dressing today in my way to buy some stuffs i heard bad things and questions bout my gender i've been called ugly too do i still pass ?
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Quote from: jossef-ftm on June 27, 2013, 07:01:53 PM
as always still no T yet that how i was dressing today in my way to buy some stuffs i heard bad things and questions bout my gender i've been called ugly too do i still pass ?
Yes, you pass and you are not ugly. I hate that you have to continually be exposed to discrimination but understand that it's not you. It's the backwards Country you live in.
Definitely not ugly dude. And you pass pretty damn well, if I do say so myself. And I try to be brutally honest.
Quote from: Simon on June 27, 2013, 08:16:14 PM
Yes, you pass and you are not ugly. I hate that you have to continually be exposed to discrimination but understand that it's not you. It's the backwards Country you live in.
This.
Liked my looks today so much that I had to take some photos. x)
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Just realized my nose piercing is very little seen because I always tend to take pictures from my left side... Weird.
And it's seriously weird how much I've gained EYEBROWS since I started T. :D
Took a fullbody picture, too.
Well, 3/4 body.
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My previously oh-so-scrawny neck seems to be filling up... Not complaining.
And I like wearing my cap. :'D
Quote from: Tossu-sama on June 28, 2013, 04:29:29 AM
Liked my looks today so much that I had to take some photos. x)
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Just realized my nose piercing is very little seen because I always tend to take pictures from my left side... Weird.
And it's seriously weird how much I've gained EYEBROWS since I started T. :D
Took a fullbody picture, too.
Well, 3/4 body.
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My previously oh-so-scrawny neck seems to be filling up... Not complaining.
And I like wearing my cap. :'D
You look really cool :) you couldn't pass as female if you tried mwahahaha (not meant to be insulting, you just look really like a guy)
Quote from: kyh on June 28, 2013, 05:12:53 AM
You look really cool :) you couldn't pass as female if you tried mwahahaha (not meant to be insulting, you just look really like a guy)
Thanks, I wouldn't even know how to try! :D
Youssef, definitely passing. And the person who said you were ugly was probably just looking into a mirror! ;)
I agree, you totally look like a guy Tossu!
And Jesse, you really pass. Even in the early pictures (though I think passing is easier at a young age, before that damned puberty and all!) Looking great!
QuoteOof I wouldn't be able to stand hearing such words like your mom says. It can make me react sometimes a bit explosive if that were said, and I always try to correct people if they say something I don't like. (though it often also depends on the situation) Also I had seen your photographs and I think you really pass well too, you've got an awesome hairstyle. :]
Yeah, I hate it too :/ I know she means well, but pfff... I'm getting SO fed up with it! If I were out to them I would be REALLY offended though, as that would just be a sign they're not taking it seriously AT ALL.
I still hate her doing it though.
And thanks :) some days I think cutting my hair would make passing easier, but I just can't chop them. At least not yet.
Quote from: Erik Ezrin on June 28, 2013, 06:09:32 AM
Youssef, definitely passing. And the person who said you were ugly was probably just looking into a mirror! ;)
I agree, you totally look like a guy Tossu!
And Jesse, you really pass. Even in the early pictures (though I think passing is easier at a young age, before that damned puberty and all!) Looking great!
Yeah, I hate it too :/ I know she means well, but pfff... I'm getting SO fed up with it! If I were out to them I would be REALLY offended though, as that would just be a sign they're not taking it seriously AT ALL.
I still hate her doing it though.
And thanks :) some days I think cutting my hair would make passing easier, but I just can't chop them. At least not yet.
I hope you'll keep your hair. It looks good on you :) And dreadlocks are more guyish anyways.
Quote from: Tossu-sama on June 28, 2013, 04:29:29 AM
Liked my looks today so much that I had to take some photos. x)
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Just realized my nose piercing is very little seen because I always tend to take pictures from my left side... Weird.
And it's seriously weird how much I've gained EYEBROWS since I started T. :D
Took a fullbody picture, too.
Well, 3/4 body.
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My previously oh-so-scrawny neck seems to be filling up... Not complaining.
And I like wearing my cap. :'D
You pass. You look like my ex gf's son.
Quote from: Tossu-sama on June 28, 2013, 04:29:29 AM
Liked my looks today so much that I had to take some photos. x)
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Just realized my nose piercing is very little seen because I always tend to take pictures from my left side... Weird.
And it's seriously weird how much I've gained EYEBROWS since I started T. :D
Took a fullbody picture, too.
Well, 3/4 body.
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My previously oh-so-scrawny neck seems to be filling up... Not complaining.
And I like wearing my cap. :'D
Looking like any of the guys I know, there is not a trace of female in those photos!
I'll definitely keep them Kyh, don't be afraid ;) I am way too attached to them. But sometimes I think they are being a 'girl-red flag'. Probably just in my head though.
Looking at your recent pics, I gotta say Erik, I really like your look. I see male, and I think I may have said this to you before - but the only thing that would make me think otherwise on the street would be if your voice was high.
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Tips guys? (My hair doesn't normally stick straight up like that, it lies flatter, but the wind was blowing and I can't find a better recent pic right now)
Quote from: CursedFireDean on June 28, 2013, 08:45:49 PM
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Tips guys? (My hair doesn't normally stick straight up like that, it lies flatter, but the wind was blowing and I can't find a better recent pic right now)
Good photo Dean, you're looking real good to me fella!
You pass, but look really young. (12/13 yrs) And sorry guys, I just cannot see any of you as females, lol! So I might be slightly biased...
You really have a nice face though (and a contagious smile!), and once on T I'm sure you'll be an incredibly handsome guy (you really have a warm/friendly looking face)
I agree with what Erik said to Dean. The only tip I have for as far as I can see is making the hair before your ears shorter, because I've read it's not reccomended to have it too long there (I had done the same in the past). And maybe you can try some gel in your hair if it's always flat, though when I don't feel like doing my hair it's often flat too so it's really just what you would prefer, it just might make you slightly more passable to strangers. Either way I see no trace of female in the photograph.
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Kiss! :D
I love my beard, two years on T!
How do you post a picture? I'm new and have no idea what I'm doing.
Please Help!
Dean, you pass fabulously-- you do look pretty young, as Erik said, but you look like a young guy, for sure! (Also, you have a great smile.)
As for Zara: Your beard looks awesome, and even without the beard, your face shape looks very male to me.
I haven't been on here in a loooong time. Here's a fairly recent picture of me. This picture was taken around the time I hit the 1-year-on-T mark, but I'm still not sure how well I pass-- I still get misgendered on a pretty regular basis:
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And here's an even more recent picture. It's a crappy webcam picture, but at least you can see my recent haircut. Plus, I switched from T cream to injectable T about a month ago (shortly after the last picture was taken), although I'm not sure if there are any outwardly noticable effects, yet.
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Got a haircut today and the stylist went a little crazy! I think it hinders my passing and makes my face look fat, but I don't have anyone objective to ask. What do you guys think??
Quote from: Konnor on June 29, 2013, 06:00:57 PM
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Got a haircut today and the stylist went a little crazy! I think it hinders my passing and makes my face look fat, but I don't have anyone objective to ask. What do you guys think??
Here's what an ex guy thinks. That's a really masculine haircut and frankly you look like someone I wouldn't want to tangle with in a bar brawl. Kickass dude all the way Konnor!
Jossef, you look awesome as always. I have no idea how anyone could see you as anything but a guy!
Tossu, looking great in the full body pic! I'm jealous!
Dean, I think you pass but look young. You just have the soft face that a lot of us have. I don't know much to change it besides T :/
Zara, digging your beard! Get over to the badass thread :P
Crow, I think you look pretty male. I think the shorter hair makes you look older. I def see a difference in your face from the first pic to second.
Konnor, I think that haircut looks quite manly (and doesn't make your face look fat). It does kind of show off your eyes in not-the-most-masculine way, but I think the masculinity of the haircut and your awesome bushy eyebrows do a great job of counteracting that so you still pass fine and dandy. (However, I do still think a tad longer/shaggier haircut like you have in your avatar does suit you better.)
Thanks for the insight, Crow. I'm still not sure what I think of it. It's nice for summer and easy upkeep. But i dont think it balances out with the rest of my body. Oh well, it'll grow back soon!
Crow: You pass all right, but you could go either way imo. I'd have to hear your voice. But I think your hair in the first picture suits you better. You're a good looking guy for sure, and since you've switched to injectable T I'd bet you'll see more masculinizing soon.
Dean: It's a good hair length on you. Your hairline is round so your bangs (when they're on your forehead and not blowing in the wind) will help cover that. IIRC you're fairly young and you look like an average boy of your age.
Tossu-sama: Looking good dude
What do you guys think? 2 years on T, still can't grow much facial hair. I still think I look female sometimes but it's been getting better.
tvc15, totally pass of course. I am in the same boat with the facial hair, almost 3 years and pretty much nothing. Hoping that after a hysto I may get more hair. But yeah you obviously pass and shouldn't even worry about it anymore IMO, at least for that pic.
Tvc15, in that pic you definitely pass, yeah! You REALLY look like a guy I know from LARP, and he is 19 yrs old and only has some slight baby hairs coming through. I think you look great, just saying! Your long-ish hair looks good on you too!
Konnor, I agree with the previous posts. The haircut really reads 'male', but a 'shaggier' haircut would suit you better (but not that this hinders your passing or anything) I also agree that you have pretty feminine eyes, but the eyebrows and face shape make up for it. Besides that is there a guy in my class with VERY similar eyes, and he was born with them. So no worries bro, you pass fine! (and your face doesn't look fat either)
Crow, you look male to me, but pretty young (especially for one year on T. Does it have anything to do with it being gel, and not injections?) And congrats for switching to shots! :)
tvc15, don't know how old you are but you look 20-21 and you completely pass. You're blonde as well, so the facial hair taking a bit longer won't raise any eyebrows. I wouldn't worry about it.
Here's some pics of me in my new suit. What do you think?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi373.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo179%2FDelphinium_Blue%2F20130702_004228small.jpg&hash=d74248f2a59cf8272f991f42307bf7cc78253368) (http://s373.photobucket.com/user/Delphinium_Blue/media/20130702_004228.jpg.html)
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You look awesome, deeper!!! That suit fits you well. I can never fill out the shoulders in suits. >:(
Thanks Erik, I appreciate the feedback!!
Very nice Aethan! ;D I wish I could pull off a suit that nicely.
ok thats weird im a forum of a bodybuilding and there is a compitition about best abs i was working out for 6 mounth so i wanna join so bad but nobody knows im a tg there so im afraid to put a pic cause i think my stomake looke like a femal 1 so i just wanna know guys and be honest
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I honestly see nothing female ther Jossef. And if you told you were a bioguy the pic definitely wouldnt make me doubt. No worries ;)
Jossef, I think you're fine. Doesn't seem female to me!
Quote from: DeeperThanSwords on July 01, 2013, 08:03:59 PM
Here's some pics of me in my new suit. What do you think?
You look great, but did you cut your hair? I'll miss envisioning you wielding a sword and killing goblins. :'(
Swords, you look super dashing in that suit! I would definitely read you as a dude without any trouble if I encountered you at a snazzy suit-wearing type of event in that fabulous attire.
Jossef, I am not much of a stomach expert (okay, not event remotely a stomach expert), but I don't see anything obviously female about yours?
I don't think my voice really passes, yet, but it's getting somewhere. Here is a video-- what do you guys think?
T(MI) with Deyan- 4.5 weeks on Injectable T (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMQK4GTh5RY#)
And for good measure, here is me wearing the hat I wear all day at work, because explorer hats are awesome (and if I don't wear a wide-brim hat, my face turns into a baked lobster):
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Ahhhh, accidental double post! Oops. If any moderators are reading this, feel free to combine this post with the one above it.
Dude you got a little way to go on your voice yet but I think it's gunna sound really good when it properly breaks. It's already quite low so I bet it will get fairly deep.
Oh and I'd say you pass
Crow, I think your voice passes. You just sound young. :)
Crow, your voice definitely passes. You look about 15, but you're on T so that will get better quickly.
Thanks guys!
Yeah, right now I look and sound practically identical to how my brother looked and sounded when he was in 8th or 9th grade. It's actually a little uncanny. (We've always looked and sounded pretty similar, though. There was a brief period after I cut my hair short but before his voice changed and he became 6 feet tall that people would just flat-out mistake us for each other.)
Bwahaha, my clever disguise is working nicely-- my students will never know I'm actually the adult in the room!
Quote from: LearnedHand on July 03, 2013, 06:52:57 PM
You look great, but did you cut your hair? I'll miss envisioning you wielding a sword and killing goblins. :'(
Aww, I'm sorry. A few people have decried my getting the hair chopped, hehe.
Quote from: LearnedHand on July 03, 2013, 06:52:57 PM
You look great, but did you cut your hair? I'll miss envisioning you wielding a sword and killing goblins. :'(
I missed that too. I was practically living my dreams through his hair LOL!
hey everyone! havent wrote since page one :O
anyway its been about 2 months but im back! and i got a new haircut
http://m1276.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/jayrain97/379EB1CB-5E3A-42EE-A6CB-62DF3FE50F60-40858-00001BC008B1A89B_zps3a37cee8.jpg.html?o=0&newest=1 (http://m1276.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/jayrain97/379EB1CB-5E3A-42EE-A6CB-62DF3FE50F60-40858-00001BC008B1A89B_zps3a37cee8.jpg.html?o=0&newest=1)
im very nervous because im meeting my girlfrieds parents so let me know?
i think i dont pass from the side -.-
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Quote from: jossef-ftm on July 09, 2013, 10:00:05 AM
i think i dont pass from the side -.-
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Don't do that to yourself Jossef, you look every bit a nice young guy from the side! Trust me on this, I was a guy for fifty years and lived around lots of other men, you pass just fine!
Jayden: you look andro to me, how about your voice? nice haircut
Jossef: don't worry nobody will judge you from the sides, but you also pass like this. wouldn't think you're not male.
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I seem to pass most of the time, but how old do I look? (not the best quality pic)
Jared, you look to be around 20 in that pic. Your face is pretty broad, so that helps. I'm a little jealous lol.
jaydenrain, I'm not too sure on whether you pass or not going by that picture. I think it would depend on the way you acted and your voice. If your hair was a bit shorter I think you could pass easily :)
Jossef, you look fine! I've always thought you have passed and I dont think that is ever going to change!
Jared, I'm bad with guessing how old people are, but I think you look around 20-23 years old in that picture.
Jayden, I think you pass based on appearance, though depending on your voice, it could go either way. I really like that haircut on you! It does give you a very 15-year-old look. though (which could be a good thing or a bad thing, depending on what look you're going for).
Jossef, you actually pass VERY well from the side! You have a great jawline. You're even lucky enough to not look prepubescent, unlike a lot of less fortunate guys. (Heck, I've been on T for over a year and I still look prepubescent!)
Jared, I would say you look around 18-19? I would definitely read you as a very young adult man.
Nate, you look to be on the masculine side of androgynous to me. You certainly don't seem feminine to me, but I could see some people being uncertain and resorting to the "when in doubt, pick a pronoun at random" guessing game. Age-wise, you look 12-14ish-- like around the age where you find a lot of boys who've started the growth-spurt part of puberty but haven't quite gotten to the rest. (This may seem counterintuitive, but have you tried or considered a slightly longer hair style? Slightly longer, shaggier hair styles can help conceal the soft, rounded face shape that gives so many early-transition guys grief. You have a very oval shaped face, and I think a hair style just a few inches longer might help a lot with passing.)
Nate, I wouldn't have said you were that young, yes your face has a bit of prepubescent softness to it, but your hairstyle -- in my opinion -- works in your favour. It looks more sophisticated and looked after than most pre-teen boys hair is. Although what age I put you at would depend on your height, style of dress and voice more than anything. From the picture alone I would say you were in the 15-18 range and was going through a late puberty/really good at shaving.
Jossef, you pass really well from the side too, stop worrying man!
Quote from: nate_xt on July 10, 2013, 09:50:36 AM
Hi! I've never posted here before, but really wanted to know if I pass. Pre-T.. Still pretty feminine I think. Also what age do I look? Feel free to be brutally honest. Thanks! :)
You look pretty good pre-T, you def pass to me but as a really pretty boy. . . like some guy who should be on one of those shows like American Idol and all the young girls would be all over you. I'd say you look 16 or so.
Quote from: Malachite on July 07, 2013, 07:57:24 PM
I missed that too. I was practically living my dreams through his hair LOL!
I feel so bad now!
been scared to post here since the last time, someone was really rude to me... but i cant hide forever, so id like some tips to pass better
http://vinniesface.tumblr.com/image/55194426473 (http://vinniesface.tumblr.com/image/55194426473)
you can check through the whole blog for more photos, some older ones too. i've been on T for around 8 months now, and while i think i look more masculine, i dont think i entirely pass. ill take a full body shot later.
Taking a look at your blog, Vinnie, you actually pass better to me in some of the previous pictures (I wouldn't question that you're a guy in those) - which led me to wonder what it is about the most recent pic that seems more feminine. I think it's the jacket but I can't pinpoint why exactly. You pass better in the pics where you have T-shirts on.
Quote from: vinnie413 on July 11, 2013, 02:49:32 PM
been scared to post here since the last time, someone was really rude to me... but i cant hide forever, so id like some tips to pass better
http://vinniesface.tumblr.com/image/55194426473 (http://vinniesface.tumblr.com/image/55194426473)
you can check through the whole blog for more photos, some older ones too. i've been on T for around 8 months now, and while i think i look more masculine, i dont think i entirely pass. ill take a full body shot later.
I agree with ketchup packet I think the jacket is making you appear more feminine then you would do otherwise. I personally found whilst I was still not passing 100% consistently it was times when I was wearing clothing that was more fashionable. So my advise would be to stick to the more typical basic clothing for now.
Thanks guys for guessing. I'm 21 but sometimes people see me younger. And Lance according to your profile pic, you're face is also pretty broad, you pass well!
thanks for the tips, guys. I really like that shirt, though. I bought it solely for the purpose of having a blue shirt to go with my brown pants and shoes (since every guy on the street does that combo). Maybe I can post a picture of the whole outfit when I get home? i honestly think the combo of it all looks pretty male, it might just be the headshot.
But thanks. I'll definately keep that in mind. I usually go around in jeans and tshirts, haha.
Facial hair what u think guys ;D
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Quote from: jossef-ftm on July 14, 2013, 04:37:24 PM
Facial hair what u think guys ;D
I would say you pass. The glasses and the hat don't go well together, though.
Quote from: vinnie413 on July 11, 2013, 02:49:32 PM
been scared to post here since the last time, someone was really rude to me... but i cant hide forever, so id like some tips to pass better
http://vinniesface.tumblr.com/image/55194426473 (http://vinniesface.tumblr.com/image/55194426473)
you can check through the whole blog for more photos, some older ones too. i've been on T for around 8 months now, and while i think i look more masculine, i dont think i entirely pass. ill take a full body shot later.
I sorry someone was rude to you :(
I think the hat might be causing a bit of an issue, I think you should try wearing it up a little more on your head. I usually see girls wearing hats like that more toward the back of the head while guys tend to be up a little more.
I think ya look good, vinnie, pretty passable. I obviously don't have very good attention to detail though cause i didn't notice the hat lol. Still think you look good though dude.
Quote from: jossef-ftm on July 14, 2013, 04:37:24 PM
Facial hair what u think guys ;D
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very sexy btw U kinda resemble zayn malik.
Quote from: LearnedHand on July 14, 2013, 07:13:28 PM
I sorry someone was rude to you :(
I think the hat might be causing a bit of an issue, I think you should try wearing it up a little more on your head. I usually see girls wearing hats like that more toward the back of the head while guys tend to be up a little more.
You think so? The reason I wear it back is because I see girls wearing it further up, and guys farther back lol... if i wear it too far forward, it makes my head look small and way too female.
And yeah back when I first joined this site, I posted in this thread and someone was rude and killed my self esteem :\ they werent even constructive crit, and it made me not wanna come back to this site ever again ahaha
Vinnie, I just looked back through your posts. I honestly don't think you were treated that badly. Ask a crowd of people any question, and you'll get many responses. Hugs, Devlyn
Would I pass? (I'm pre everything)
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I know look too much girl here, but I'm just on the verge of whether to accept that I may be trans man or not. I've just started to go back to trying to pass.
I can't fix my face, but I can fix my hair. What hairstyle should I go for? I have a round small face (like an asian girl's face >:( )
I'm losing weight at the same time so I can gain a tighter figure and so then I could gain muscle mass around the shoulders and abs more. Perhaps losing fat in the face will help too?
I was trying to pass in my mid high school years, but every time I failed miserably. :embarrassed:
Oh great posters of manly. Give me tips and honest opinions!
Quote from: GiantMarkirs on July 15, 2013, 08:08:15 PM
Would I pass? (I'm pre everything)
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I know look too much girl here, but I'm just on the verge of whether to accept that I may be trans man or not. I've just started to go back to trying to pass.
I can't fix my face, but I can fix my hair. What hairstyle should I go for? I have a round small face (like an asian girl's face >:( )
I'm losing weight at the same time so I can gain a tighter figure and so then I could gain muscle mass around the shoulders and abs more. Perhaps losing fat in the face will help too?
I was trying to pass in my mid high school years, but every time I failed miserably. :embarrassed:
Oh great posters of manly. Give me tips and honest opinions!
If you're not against makeup, look up some videos on youtube for crossplay tutorials. They use contouring, which will make your face look less round until you can lose some of that naturally.
Quote from: Soren on July 15, 2013, 08:12:03 PM
If you're not against makeup, look up some videos on youtube for crossplay tutorials. They use contouring, which will make your face look less round until you can lose some of that naturally.
Thanks Soren! I will definitely look into that!
Quote from: GiantMarkirs on July 15, 2013, 08:08:15 PM
Would I pass? (I'm pre everything)
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I know look too much girl here, but I'm just on the verge of whether to accept that I may be trans man or not. I've just started to go back to trying to pass.
I can't fix my face, but I can fix my hair. What hairstyle should I go for? I have a round small face (like an asian girl's face >:( )
I'm losing weight at the same time so I can gain a tighter figure and so then I could gain muscle mass around the shoulders and abs more. Perhaps losing fat in the face will help too?
I was trying to pass in my mid high school years, but every time I failed miserably. :embarrassed:
Oh great posters of manly. Give me tips and honest opinions!
I think you have a face that could go either way, so it comes down to the way you dress and carry yourself. You do look pretty young though, I'd say like early high school age. I also have a round face and I find that short hair doesn't help, the longer it is, the more angular my face appears, so you might want to try that considering your hair is already long. Maybe just grow it out and as you lose weight see if it takes away some of the roundness.
GiantMarkirs: If you are just thinking about trying to pass again I'd say to just cut your hair a bit at first. Just on the sides and back, but the top of your head looks good. You should cut the sides to a length were you can create the illusion of side burns. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.newhairstyles7.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F08%2Fc11c1__new-popular-hairstyles-with-medium-length-hair-for-men-from-asian-men_1.jpg&hash=6900e022ba4e53fade706b7e5912696596573bb9) Something like this guy's hair I think would work well for you.
Quote from: assorted_human on July 15, 2013, 10:11:17 PM
GiantMarkirs: If you are just thinking about trying to pass again I'd say to just cut your hair a bit at first. Just on the sides and back, but the top of your head looks good. You should cut the sides to a length were you can create the illusion of side burns. Something like this guy's hair I think would work well for you.
I'll definitely try it out then thanks!
Quote from: ForWantOf on July 15, 2013, 10:07:44 PM
I've noticed that longer hair kind of shapes my head to be a little less rounder and I really like that! I might have to stick with layering though for side and back.
Well I expected that I look young. I just graduated high school so I guess I can't escape that high school look for now :{
I think the problem with my hair is that it's very thick compared to other people. So whenever I cut it boy short it would end up looking like some kind of afro in the end
Quote from: GiantMarkirs on July 15, 2013, 10:36:48 PM
I've noticed that longer hair kind of shapes my head to be a little less rounder and I really like that! I might have to stick with layering though for side and back.
Well I expected that I look young. I just graduated high school so I guess I can't escape that high school look for now :{
I think the problem with my hair is that it's very thick compared to other people. So whenever I cut it boy short it would end up looking like some kind of afro in the end
I have the same problem with thick hair. It didn't straighten out until I got it part waist length. I put mine in a ponytail at the nape of my neck using a wet brush, just for ease, but my face looks more angular when it's down :/
Quote from: GiantMarkirs on July 15, 2013, 10:36:48 PM
I've noticed that longer hair kind of shapes my head to be a little less rounder and I really like that! I might have to stick with layering though for side and back.
Well I expected that I look young. I just graduated high school so I guess I can't escape that high school look for now :{
I think the problem with my hair is that it's very thick compared to other people. So whenever I cut it boy short it would end up looking like some kind of afro in the end
Have you ever tried straightening it or using any kind of products? I know that stuff is a hassle but it should help your hair to be flatter and the product also helps to weigh it down. I think long hair suits you though, I really like your haircut in the picture you attached.
Oh and no worries, a lot of us have the problem of looking far too young. I went to buy beer once and the guy told me I looked about 12 lol, you just have to look on the brightside.
I never passed with shaggy/long hair when my face was rounder. Then again mine was thick and wavy and I was lazy.
Quote from: ForWantOf on July 16, 2013, 03:02:24 AM
Oh and no worries, a lot of us have the problem of looking far too young. I went to buy beer once and the guy told me I looked about 12 lol, you just have to look on the brightside.
I think you look 17.
I know I don't pass in this, but how old do I look!
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Quote from: Aido on July 16, 2013, 05:41:06 PM
I know I don't pass in this, but how old do I look!
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Is that your tongue or your lip?
I see a face piercing, so I would guess at least 16 years old.
That's my tongue
Quote from: Aido on July 16, 2013, 06:01:14 PM
That's my tongue
That's a relief. Something would have been very wrong if that was your lip
Quote from: Aido on July 16, 2013, 05:41:06 PM
I know I don't pass in this, but how old do I look!
You look about 17-18 to me!
I think you can totally pass as well. I wouldn't have really guessed unless I stared at you hard haha.
It's a good thing that was your tongue then!
Quote from: assorted_human on July 16, 2013, 05:04:38 PM
I never passed with shaggy/long hair when my face was rounder. Then again mine was thick and wavy and I was lazy. I think you look 17.
4 years off isn't too bad, it's a compliment to look younger than you are imo. And really? In regard to your hair, that is. I don't think I pass 99% of the time anyway but I feel like I just look more butch and female with short hair, where as with longer hair I think people are more hesitant to gender me, maybe because it hides my face shape better.
Quote from: Aido on July 16, 2013, 05:41:06 PM
I know I don't pass in this, but how old do I look!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/76526_324901607644204_672562086_n.jpg)
I'd also say around 16. Nice ear piercing btw! :)
Quote from: CarterDeeds on June 29, 2013, 02:15:44 PM
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Please Help!
Your best bet is to read the "Announcements" board and follow the guidance there.
Quote from: ForWantOf on July 17, 2013, 12:48:28 PM
4 years off isn't too bad, it's a compliment to look younger than you are imo. And really? In regard to your hair, that is. I don't think I pass 99% of the time anyway but I feel like I just look more butch and female with short hair, where as with longer hair I think people are more hesitant to gender me, maybe because it hides my face shape better.
I am either usually seen as a kid or a gay man when I pass...it's better than not passing. Based on your avatar I can see how your long hair helps. I wouldn't even guess you face is round under it.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1338.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo698%2Fassorted_human%2F199751_1033439388838_2403_n_zps728f0d15.jpg&hash=47e88d3d0fb59c0a7bf1886baf332213d786c518) This was my hair back when I was 19 (6 years ago). From the front view it puffed out. I didn't pass very well as far as I remember, but I don't pass all the time now either. I do really miss that hair style though. I feel like it's just more my personality.
Aido: I think 15, but piercings say 16.
Hi guys! Long time no post. Thought I'd pop in and post a comparison picture. I still don't pass consistently...but I can see some change for sure :P
Me the day I got my first T shot:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.strife-designs.com%2Fme%2F001.JPG&hash=69c917b95fe47c4562a45f1464564f6d45f5860e)
Me 10 minutes ago:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.strife-designs.com%2Fme%2F004.jpg&hash=35bf409719ee06079c3290d682222b3ed92d2109)
The biggest difference is probably that you can tell I actually go outside once in a while nowadays xD
Edit: Did a voice comparison too! http://www.strife-designs.com/me/voice.mp3 (http://www.strife-designs.com/me/voice.mp3)
Quote from: GiantMarkirs on July 17, 2013, 11:51:41 AM
You look about 17-18 to me!
I think you can totally pass as well. I wouldn't have really guessed unless I stared at you hard haha.
It's a good thing that was your tongue then!
Thanks, i seem to pass somedays, and not other days. Only two months on T though so hopefully that'll change once the face fuzz starts coming in.
Quote from: ForWantOf on July 17, 2013, 12:48:28 PM
I'd also say around 16. Nice ear piercing btw! :)
Thanks :3 I'm 24 but everyone thinks I'm waaaay younger
Quote from: Aido on July 18, 2013, 08:49:36 AM
Thanks :3 I'm 24 but everyone thinks I'm waaaay younger
It's a common curse/blessing of being a transguy :P I'm also 24 and it's only very recently that people have stopped asking me for ID in shops (even for scratch cards...and even redbull once!)
It's ironic really, I spent years going without rather than showing my female ID...now I have male ID nobody is asking for it xD
Quote from: Jeatyn on July 18, 2013, 07:21:32 AM
Edit: Did a voice comparison too! http://www.strife-designs.com/me/voice.mp3 (http://www.strife-designs.com/me/voice.mp3)
"10 monthes on T. Massive voice difference."
I definitely agree. Face looks about the same as before but with that awesome voice I'd say you pass.
Quote from: Jeatyn on July 18, 2013, 07:21:32 AM
The biggest difference is probably that you can tell I actually go outside once in a while nowadays xD
I think you've had more changes than just a tan. The shape of your face has change shape somewhat your lips have changed your eyebrows seem thicker and is that facial hair I see? And you definitely have a masculine expression on your face in the now pic. From what I can tell from these pics is your making good progress. :)
Wow Jeatyn, awesome changes. ;D You're looking good.
I'm also 24 and seen as much younger. The other day someone asked me what grade I was in. o.O Oh and not to mention the time I wanted a fruit sample at the store, and the lady pointed to my grandma and said "you need to ask your mama first." Lmao.
I've had delivery men refuse to let me sign for a package because they thought I was under age :D "is your mum home" ... erm, maybe? You'll have to go to her house and find out =D
Thanks guys...and yes it is facial hair :P thank you for noticing. To be honest I expected more drastic changes after 10 months, but my voice alone is a huge victory for me. (I was doing my best fake deep voice in the first take too...it's nowhere near as convincing as I thought it was at the time ahaha)
Quote from: Jeatyn on July 18, 2013, 07:21:32 AM
Edit: Did a voice comparison too!
Your voice changes are fantastic. Congrats.
Quote from: Heather on July 18, 2013, 12:54:17 PM
I think you've had more changes than just a tan. The shape of your face has change shape somewhat your lips have changed your eyebrows seem thicker
^I second this - awesome progress mate.
Quote from: Jeatyn on July 18, 2013, 07:21:32 AM
Wow, you're one of those lucky ones. Fantastic voice change!
Do I pass? :embarrassed:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/576756_1384966768381834_1403874752_n.jpg
Quote from: Benen on July 19, 2013, 06:56:48 PM
file:///C:/Users/Jeremy/Downloads/Rowan!.jpg
Do I pass? :embarrassed:
Doesn't work.
Try linking your photo onto a photo sharing website and post it here. I use photobucket.
Quote from: Benen on July 19, 2013, 06:56:48 PM
Do I pass? :embarrassed:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/576756_1384966768381834_1403874752_n.jpg
Yeah, I'd say you do. About 12-14.
New shorts.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv386%2Fisnt_anything%2Fnull_zps93c6114f.jpg&hash=861476cac275a94656c53e633d1c262c71de4441) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/isnt_anything/media/null_zps93c6114f.jpg.html)
Pass?
Quote from: Darrin Scott on July 19, 2013, 09:11:14 PM
New shorts.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv386%2Fisnt_anything%2Fnull_zps93c6114f.jpg&hash=861476cac275a94656c53e633d1c262c71de4441) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/isnt_anything/media/null_zps93c6114f.jpg.html)
Pass?
Yes, yes you do.
Jeatyn You look good, I think your cheeks look more masculine.
Benen It could be 50/50 for me. If I was a random person who saw you out on the street I think I'd either see you as a young male, but I might also see you as butch. I think passing would depend a lot on your body language, etc.
Darrin You look great, you always pass to me.
Quote from: Benen on July 19, 2013, 06:56:48 PM
Do I pass? :embarrassed:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/576756_1384966768381834_1403874752_n.jpg
I would suggest making your eyebrows a bit darker somehow. I would say you could pass now, but you look very young.
Quote from: Soren on July 19, 2013, 09:21:19 PM
I would suggest making your eyebrows a bit darker somehow. I would say you could pass now, but you look very young.
I am actually turning ** this week, so I guess that I am pretty young ^_^ thank you for the tip!
I think that once I start hormones and grow facial hair and have a thicker neck I'll pass... I know you guys will be here to help me know for sure, though! :)
Edited to remove age.
Quote from: LearnedHand on July 19, 2013, 09:20:14 PM
Benen It could be 50/50 for me. If I was a random person who saw you out on the street I think I'd either see you as a young male, but I might also see you as butch. I think passing would depend a lot on your body language, etc.
Thanks for the feedback. My demeanor is a comedic swagger, kinda like this :eusa_dance: and :icon_2gun: . I usually pass at work and stuff, but I just got my binder today, so my boobs usually give me away :icon_mad:
Quote from: Benen on July 19, 2013, 10:26:12 PM
I guess that I am pretty young ^_^ thank you for the tip!
I think that once I start hormones and grow facial hair and have a thicker neck I'll pass... I know you guys will be here to help me know for sure, though! :)
I don't think you're allowed to post your age on this site if you're under 18, you may want to edit that.
Quote from: Benen on July 19, 2013, 10:26:12 PM
I am actually turning ** this week, so I guess that I am pretty young ^_^ thank you for the tip!
I think that once I start hormones and grow facial hair and have a thicker neck I'll pass... I know you guys will be here to help me know for sure, though! :)
You could certainly pass for a young boy, though it is worth mentioning that posting of ages is strongly frowned upon for members, and those under 18 are explicitly prohibited from stating their biological age as per the ToS. Just thought you should know, I overlooked that rule too when I first joined ^^
I tried to take a picture in one of those "teen angsty hipster" poses and failed at it (actually no, I'm sitting like that because it makes my hip hurt less), but the way it came out is making me realize that my face especially at certain angles looks younger than I thought. I was trying to analyze that because of some recent events, I was going to take a head-on picture but those were coming out blurry because my hand is bad at holding the phone today.
Really hard to tell from a sideshot, but how old would you peg me as in this picture? (Excuse the mess, my mom felt the need to shove an apartment's worth of things in my closet, including some rather girly toys no one ever played with and a gigantic box of something.)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fsxu0hPC.jpg&hash=fdfb809878738bae8e94fc50e5896cc336f33dac)
Edited Quote to remove Benen's age. :P
Max, I wouldn't worry too much about the pose, though I know you're on the short side, someone looking at you to see you at that angle would have to be like 2 feet taller than you and be standing super close to you. It only makes you look young (I guess I'd say like 12 or so, pre-pubescent) because it highlights your soft cheeks.
I tried to take a picture in one of those "teen angsty hipster" poses and failed at it (actually no, I'm sitting like that because it makes my hip hurt less), but the way it came out is making me realize that my face especially at certain angles looks younger than I thought. I was trying to analyze that because of some recent events, I was going to take a head-on picture but those were coming out blurry because my hand is bad at holding the phone today.
Really hard to tell from a sideshot, but how old would you peg me as in this picture? (Excuse the mess, my mom felt the need to shove an apartment's worth of things in my closet, including some rather girly toys no one ever played with and a gigantic box of something.)
I would think that your age would be around 14 or 15. But a super cute 14 or 15 year old! ^_^
Hah wow, okay. I only ask because I was roped into doing an activity with a bunch of little kids about building circuits the other day by a librarian who thought I was a little kid too. I tried to explain that I was too old but she didn't believe me, the people there thought I was in elementary or something and were shocked to find out otherwise. After the activity, she came over to everyone with stickers and gave them out to the kids. When she got to me, she said "Here you go...or wait, are you too old for that? ::)". I sighed and she gave me a sticker anyway.
But I'll be in college the year after next! D:
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on July 20, 2013, 09:05:21 AM
Hah wow, okay. I only ask because I was roped into doing an activity with a bunch of little kids about building circuits the other day by a librarian who thought I was a little kid too.
Enjoy it while you can. You don't believe it now but one day you'll miss it. When I was 22 I was pegged as a 14 year old often (transguys "curse" lol). Now at 31 I look mid-late 20's...so I'll take that.
Oh, in the pic I would say like an 10 or 11 year old little guy.
Quote from: Jeatyn on July 18, 2013, 07:21:32 AM
Hi guys! Long time no post. Thought I'd pop in and post a comparison picture. I still don't pass consistently...but I can see some change for sure :P
Me the day I got my first T shot:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.strife-designs.com%2Fme%2F001.JPG&hash=69c917b95fe47c4562a45f1464564f6d45f5860e)
Me 10 minutes ago:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.strife-designs.com%2Fme%2F004.jpg&hash=35bf409719ee06079c3290d682222b3ed92d2109)
The biggest difference is probably that you can tell I actually go outside once in a while nowadays xD
Edit: Did a voice comparison too! http://www.strife-designs.com/me/voice.mp3 (http://www.strife-designs.com/me/voice.mp3)
"Massive voice difference" - I think I do agree.
First voice clip I've uploaded. I'm happy where I'm at so far but sometimes I sound different to myself than I do to others I think. My voice still isn't settled and that could be a reason why.
Have a listen if you like and tell me what you think.
http://chirb.it/FFz6cr (http://chirb.it/FFz6cr)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSh7eDyQ.jpg&hash=66c8074cd16f6664147dd865ca51f08232047a7c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FV9jcqua.jpg&hash=99360aa290a1b40dca80f1cfc577858813612f3f)
My voice: http://chirb.it/kxxf7s (http://chirb.it/kxxf7s)
So, do I pass?
Quote from: LocustBlotter on July 22, 2013, 01:35:39 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSh7eDyQ.jpg&hash=66c8074cd16f6664147dd865ca51f08232047a7c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FV9jcqua.jpg&hash=99360aa290a1b40dca80f1cfc577858813612f3f)
My voice: http://chirb.it/kxxf7s (http://chirb.it/kxxf7s)
So, do I pass?
Yes and you are totally cute!
Ps: grumpy cat is awesome.
Quote from: chipper on July 22, 2013, 12:04:44 AM
Simon,
Your voice sounds solid, dude!
Thanks man, appreciate it. It'll really deep when I first wake up so I hope it drops to that point and stays there soon.
Quote from: LocustBlotter on July 22, 2013, 01:35:39 AM
So, do I pass?
Honestly, not yet physically. If I remember correctly you
just started T. Give it time. You'll get there before you know it.
Voice wise I think you could pass for a prepubescent boy already. Do yourself a favor and keep records of your voice/pics every few weeks (if you're not already doing so). It seems to happen quickly month wise but the changes are subtle if you try to compare them day by day. It's just easier to have things to compare to.
Enjoy the ride. :)
Quote from: xander on July 22, 2013, 02:57:05 AM
Yes and you are totally cute!
Ps: grumpy cat is awesome.
Aw, thank you. :D
Quote from: Simon on July 22, 2013, 02:58:16 AM
Do yourself a favor and keep records of your voice/pics every few weeks (if you're not already doing so). It seems to happen quickly month wise but the changes are subtle if you try to compare them day by day. It's just easier to have things to compare to.
Thank you for the input. And I actually plan to make a video every day that I get my shot. (Every two weeks)
Quote from: LocustBlotter on July 22, 2013, 01:35:39 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSh7eDyQ.jpg&hash=66c8074cd16f6664147dd865ca51f08232047a7c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FV9jcqua.jpg&hash=99360aa290a1b40dca80f1cfc577858813612f3f)
My voice: http://chirb.it/kxxf7s (http://chirb.it/kxxf7s)
So, do I pass?
I think you pass in the bottom picture but you look quite young, and your voice, I can't hear you as anything other than a really, really, really young male. I think T will work wonders for you and I also really like your jacket.
Quote from: Simon on July 21, 2013, 11:38:03 PM
First voice clip I've uploaded. I'm happy where I'm at so far but sometimes I sound different to myself than I do to others I think. My voice still isn't settled and that could be a reason why.
Have a listen if you like and tell me what you think.
http://chirb.it/FFz6cr (http://chirb.it/FFz6cr)
That is fantastic Simon!
Simon, you sound awesome! :D
Locus, you might pass as a prepubescent boy in both the photos and the voice clip. Though, I think you look older in the top photo than the bottom one.
Yeah, in the top picture I actually used make up to make myself look older and more masculine.
Thanks Jamie and Henry ;D
my voice doesnt pass but i am 6 days on T so that should be changing soon this is kinda old cuz i cut my hair and i dont like it too much so i dont take pictures of myself as much.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.tinypic.com%2F207qqsn.jpg&hash=cb18e8203b02794856f8783b6c6886cb4db30f2d)
Quote from: dylanjakoby on July 23, 2013, 09:41:36 PM
my voice doesnt pass but i am 6 days on T so that should be changing soon this is kinda old cuz i cut my hair and i dont like it too much so i dont take pictures of myself as much.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.tinypic.com%2F207qqsn.jpg&hash=cb18e8203b02794856f8783b6c6886cb4db30f2d)
You might want to try working out your shoulders- they're a bit narrow
Quote from: Soren on July 23, 2013, 09:46:15 PM
You might want to try working out your shoulders- they're a bit narrow
im actually so entirely lazy it hurts, but i have been working out and my arms have gotten a lot bigger than in that picture. i am hoping that with T and working out a lot more i will get bigger in the upper body area
So, I guess it's cheating to crop out the parts that obviously DON'T pass, but what do you guys think from the shoulders up?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi111.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn139%2Ftokataro%2Ftie.png&hash=c51ef63d232b91875aab7274b41fac27aad37fec)
I just modified a binder and tank top (although the tank top isn't complete yet) trying to get it to a size and shape where i'm covered but can still show my fuzz.
What do you think (if you don't pay attention to the lumps where the fabric is gathered at the top)? Do the holes look unnaturally small? Does my chest seem okay?
Various other anxieties...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2F6fefefb9d810d8ea8f44eb75743b7e7f%2Ftumblr_mqhf84AcB41qal7xro1_1280.jpg&hash=af15287ebb29d53fcb7b9987cd2f6aa220072361)
Your chest looks ok to me, but you look kinda uncomfortable- is it restricting your range of motion? It does look a little odd having the arm holes so fit so tightly around your armpits, tanks usually hit lower on the chest.
Quote from: MaybeBen on July 24, 2013, 09:51:25 PM
So, I guess it's cheating to crop out the parts that obviously DON'T pass, but what do you guys think from the shoulders up?
I think you are starting at a good place, but right now you still have the prepubescent boy look. The tie and vest are snazzy. Do you pluck your eyebrows still? I would stop.
Nope, I've actually never plucked them. Thanks :)
New self pic from a week ago:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi373.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo179%2FDelphinium_Blue%2F1016856_1401188473428761_1033498210_n.jpg&hash=09b3ca3bb38e72023072799a945146e8e6f80010) (http://s373.photobucket.com/user/Delphinium_Blue/media/1016856_1401188473428761_1033498210_n.jpg.html)
I would somewhat smugly add that, only 30-odd hours later, a nice, pretty Doctor Who-loving lady gave me smooches!)
Me meeting Charlie Stross last weekend:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi373.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo179%2FDelphinium_Blue%2F33877_1401146410099634_1212704650_n.jpg&hash=511e6d3fda2c8be4fed3e724663d24b84341af40) (http://s373.photobucket.com/user/Delphinium_Blue/media/33877_1401146410099634_1212704650_n.jpg.html)
Quote from: DeeperThanSwords on July 26, 2013, 05:40:31 PM
New self pic from a week ago:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi373.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo179%2FDelphinium_Blue%2F1016856_1401188473428761_1033498210_n.jpg&hash=09b3ca3bb38e72023072799a945146e8e6f80010) (http://s373.photobucket.com/user/Delphinium_Blue/media/1016856_1401188473428761_1033498210_n.jpg.html)
I would somewhat smugly add that, only 30-odd hours later, a nice, pretty Doctor Who-loving lady gave me smooches!)
Me meeting Charlie Stross last weekend:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi373.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo179%2FDelphinium_Blue%2F33877_1401146410099634_1212704650_n.jpg&hash=511e6d3fda2c8be4fed3e724663d24b84341af40) (http://s373.photobucket.com/user/Delphinium_Blue/media/33877_1401146410099634_1212704650_n.jpg.html)
Looking good Deeper, will really pass once that 5 o'clock shadow comes in. Like your looks kid! :)
Quote from: Shantel on July 26, 2013, 05:43:14 PM
Looking good Deeper, will really pass once that 5 o'clock shadow comes in. Like your looks kid! :)
Thanks! The year's wait for hormones is agonizing for pretty much that reason. Lack of facial hair is, to my mind, one of the key impediments to my passing.
You're so close to passing Deeper, can't wait to see what T does to you man!
(I'd give you smoochies too :-* )
Quote from: LearnedHand on July 26, 2013, 07:01:25 PM
You're so close to passing Deeper, can't wait to see what T does to you man!
(I'd give you smoochies too :-* )
*shy blush* Thank you!
I only have crappy photo booth pictures, but I was wondering if the slightly shorter hair makes much difference on being read as male:
2011:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1335.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw668%2Flribeiro73%2FPhotoon2011-06-26at23002_zps8ef6c022.jpg%3Ft%3D1375044417&hash=fe8be79d39f77c4128093b4ea46fbc02243b03b6)
2013:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1335.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw668%2Flribeiro73%2FPhotoon2012-05-19at15262_zpsd4bdddc2.jpg&hash=67e1bf4e7d220f8deb0c553848ce4a4ab932a500)
I just got my T letter so I'll be starting hormones soon!
*excitement*
Quote from: Lucas R on July 28, 2013, 03:55:10 PM
I only have crappy photo booth pictures, but I was wondering if the slightly shorter hair makes much difference on being read as male:
I just got my T letter so I'll be starting hormones soon!
*excitement*
Congrats on T letter. Honestly, I think you pass about the same with both haircuts. I don't know how that translates to passing for you in person though. Either way - T soon, so you are on your way.
hello friends just wanna know wish haircut make me pass more and in wish one i look my age i'm 21..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww3.0zz0.com%2F2013%2F07%2F28%2F22%2F967206683.jpg&hash=0ccb3afac9b24a83aa071573ef84daebb4dc6674) (http://www.0zz0.com)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww3.0zz0.com%2F2013%2F07%2F28%2F22%2F790331650.jpg&hash=55d23c88bbe144a19b54ca18940e0cbcd63955de) (http://www.0zz0.com)
The one in the top photo is best. Did you get the T situation worked out?
thnx shantel and no not yet..
Got my haircut (finally), and thought I'd see what you guys thought. I'm cheating slightly, I admit, with the cropping, but I don't have any guy shorts/pants yet, so pretty sure that doesn't pass anyway (except to old checkout ladies in Target, it seems, yay)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2F2abd05b9a911ae2b06df46e242bca6b8%2Ftumblr_mqpk21anom1saxeuyo1_1280.jpg&hash=986ccc15820404baf185870d679efe45cdbf0c5d)
(Just ignore the fact that I'm still decorated for Christmas. In a few months I'll just be impressively ahead of the game, shhh)
Another shot that I don't think works as well, but is closer to how I appear in the wild.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2F246b7f0c564044fc8ae5108571f387c2%2Ftumblr_mqpk21anom1saxeuyo2_1280.jpg&hash=79fb9d1440a284fa18d9c8e9d3f9807fd3299521)
Jossef, definitely the top picture, you pass really well in it.
Quote from: shadowcat on July 29, 2013, 12:49:08 PM
Got my haircut (finally), and thought I'd see what you guys thought. I'm cheating slightly, I admit, with the cropping, but I don't have any guy shorts/pants yet, so pretty sure that doesn't pass anyway (except to old checkout ladies in Target, it seems, yay)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2F2abd05b9a911ae2b06df46e242bca6b8%2Ftumblr_mqpk21anom1saxeuyo1_1280.jpg&hash=986ccc15820404baf185870d679efe45cdbf0c5d)
(Just ignore the fact that I'm still decorated for Christmas. In a few months I'll just be impressively ahead of the game, shhh)
Another shot that I don't think works as well, but is closer to how I appear in the wild.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2F246b7f0c564044fc8ae5108571f387c2%2Ftumblr_mqpk21anom1saxeuyo2_1280.jpg&hash=79fb9d1440a284fa18d9c8e9d3f9807fd3299521)
Nice haircut! :) You definitely pass in the first picture, you look like a young guy, maybe like high school or college age.
The second one I don't think you pass but you do have a ton of potential, your hands look masculine to me and you don't seem to have very big hips so that'll help out a lot.
Jossef You look great in both pictures, but I think the top one is better. You look your age in both.
Shadow Cat You look very masculine in the top photo, in the bottom I can see how you wouldn't pass if I was someone out there looking closely, because I can see some curves and your smaller shoulders/arms could give you away, though just a casual glance I'd probably just think cis-male.
Quote from: MaybeBen on July 25, 2013, 06:40:24 AM
Your chest looks ok to me, but you look kinda uncomfortable- is it restricting your range of motion? It does look a little odd having the arm holes so fit so tightly around your armpits, tanks usually hit lower on the chest.
Sorry forgot to respond here. I was trying to figure out how the heck to stand and accurately show the shirt and my chest. I don't feel restriction, but my binder is at the very edge of my armpit holes.
Quote from: Lucas R on July 28, 2013, 03:55:10 PM
I only have crappy photo booth pictures, but I was wondering if the slightly shorter hair makes much difference on being read as male:
2011:
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2013:
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I just got my T letter so I'll be starting hormones soon!
*excitement*
I think you actually pass better with the long hair.
Quote from: LocustBlotter on July 30, 2013, 05:45:44 AM
I think you actually pass better with the long hair.
Yeah, agreed. It's not necessarily because it's longer, but just the style of the cut.
So...I am 26 and this weekend I tried to enter a restricted area that you had to be 18 or over to get into. The guy gave me a really hard time and said there was no way I was over 18. I obviously could prove I was with my license, but he looked it over and over to make sure it wasn't fake. It kind of bummed me out. Also was kind of annoying as the girl I am dating/with is 31. Yeah...a 31 year old woman does not want to be with a guy who looks under 18. I am assuming that means I passed as male because I looked so young??? I know this isn't a full body pic, but was wondering how old I look? I am short, but not super short that I think I would look like a child....I am about 5'5".
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.tinypic.com%2F29vnpf4.jpg&hash=276e19c2130a01209fc90a2e9aa92c9f3e6d0060)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.tinypic.com%2F2cdwbwn.jpg&hash=cfb10eb130cf487329fba8319f79e43d31571b8d)
Quote from: JesseO on July 30, 2013, 12:20:21 PM
So...I am 26 and this weekend I tried to enter a restricted area that you had to be 18 or over to get into. The guy gave me a really hard time and said there was no way I was over 18. I obviously could prove I was with my license, but he looked it over and over to make sure it wasn't fake. It kind of bummed me out. Also was kind of annoying as the girl I am dating/with is 31. Yeah...a 31 year old woman does not want to be with a guy who looks under 18. I am assuming that means I passed as male because I looked so young??? I know this isn't a full body pic, but was wondering how old I look? I am short, but not super short that I think I would look like a child....I am about 5'5".
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.tinypic.com%2F29vnpf4.jpg&hash=276e19c2130a01209fc90a2e9aa92c9f3e6d0060)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.tinypic.com%2F2cdwbwn.jpg&hash=cfb10eb130cf487329fba8319f79e43d31571b8d)
HAH! I thought you were M2F.....
Piss yeah you pass as a male! :)
Sounds like this guy was just being a jerk. I'd put your age at about 25 based on those pics. And I've certainly never seen a teenager with gauged ears.
Quote from: MaybeBen on July 30, 2013, 01:49:19 PM
And I've certainly never seen a teenager with gauged ears.
Really??!!??
Quote from: JesseO on July 30, 2013, 12:20:21 PM
So...I am 26 and this weekend I tried to enter a restricted area that you had to be 18 or over to get into. The guy gave me a really hard time and said there was no way I was over 18. I obviously could prove I was with my license, but he looked it over and over to make sure it wasn't fake. It kind of bummed me out. Also was kind of annoying as the girl I am dating/with is 31. Yeah...a 31 year old woman does not want to be with a guy who looks under 18. I am assuming that means I passed as male because I looked so young??? I know this isn't a full body pic, but was wondering how old I look? I am short, but not super short that I think I would look like a child....I am about 5'5".
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.tinypic.com%2F29vnpf4.jpg&hash=276e19c2130a01209fc90a2e9aa92c9f3e6d0060)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.tinypic.com%2F2cdwbwn.jpg&hash=cfb10eb130cf487329fba8319f79e43d31571b8d)
I would put you at about twenty, and
definitely read you as male.
Quote from: MaybeBen on July 30, 2013, 06:31:37 AM
Yeah, agreed. It's not necessarily because it's longer, but just the style of the cut.
thanks for the feedback! I moved a year ago and still haven't found a barber I trust, so that might be it.
Quote from: JesseO on July 30, 2013, 12:20:21 PM
So...I am 26 and this weekend I tried to enter a restricted area that you had to be 18 or over to get into. The guy gave me a really hard time and said there was no way I was over 18. I obviously could prove I was with my license, but he looked it over and over to make sure it wasn't fake. It kind of bummed me out. Also was kind of annoying as the girl I am dating/with is 31. Yeah...a 31 year old woman does not want to be with a guy who looks under 18. I am assuming that means I passed as male because I looked so young??? I know this isn't a full body pic, but was wondering how old I look? I am short, but not super short that I think I would look like a child....I am about 5'5".
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.tinypic.com%2F29vnpf4.jpg&hash=276e19c2130a01209fc90a2e9aa92c9f3e6d0060)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.tinypic.com%2F2cdwbwn.jpg&hash=cfb10eb130cf487329fba8319f79e43d31571b8d)
I wouldn't question that you're a guy, older than 18.
Quote from: Darrin Scott on July 30, 2013, 01:58:08 PM
Really??!!??
Yeah, but I'm 29, so I don't know many teenagers.
Quote from: JesseO on July 30, 2013, 12:20:21 PM
So...I am 26 and this weekend I tried to enter a restricted area that you had to be 18 or over to get into. The guy gave me a really hard time and said there was no way I was over 18. I obviously could prove I was with my license, but he looked it over and over to make sure it wasn't fake. It kind of bummed me out. Also was kind of annoying as the girl I am dating/with is 31. Yeah...a 31 year old woman does not want to be with a guy who looks under 18. I am assuming that means I passed as male because I looked so young??? I know this isn't a full body pic, but was wondering how old I look? I am short, but not super short that I think I would look like a child....I am about 5'5".
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.tinypic.com%2F29vnpf4.jpg&hash=276e19c2130a01209fc90a2e9aa92c9f3e6d0060)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.tinypic.com%2F2cdwbwn.jpg&hash=cfb10eb130cf487329fba8319f79e43d31571b8d)
you deff pass as male and over 18. i mean i know many teenagers as i am 19, but i dont see many under 18 year olds with that many tattoos.
Thanks for the responses. I'll just have to accept that the guy was just giving me a hard time. I wish I'd get some darn facial hair - I'm sure that would help.
Damn man! You dont have HRT?? In that case Im jealous ;) (your jawline...!)
And I would have put you around 20 too. Deff not under 18. Ive never seen a teenager with gauges AND tats anyway! You dont look butch/dyke either, just male!
Quote from: LearnedHand on July 29, 2013, 07:14:11 PM
Shadow Cat You look very masculine in the top photo, in the bottom I can see how you wouldn't pass if I was someone out there looking closely, because I can see some curves and your smaller shoulders/arms could give you away, though just a casual glance I'd probably just think cis-male.
I've been working out my shoulders/arms for over a year now, so it's prolly going to take T to help any more with that. Either that or I need to invest in tank tops, hmm.
I'm hoping that a proper binder will help with the curves too. All I've got right now is a sports bra, which yeah, only does so much.
Quote from: shadowcat on August 01, 2013, 05:34:45 PM
I've been working out my shoulders/arms for over a year now, so it's prolly going to take T to help any more with that. Either that or I need to invest in tank tops, hmm.
I'm hoping that a proper binder will help with the curves too. All I've got right now is a sports bra, which yeah, only does so much.
Yeah T will likely help your arms and shoulders a lot. I was considering finding a way to somehow tailor my shirts to have smaller armholes and shoulders so they look like they fit better; if I ever figure out a way to do it without completely destroying all of my clothes, I'll let everyone know. :laugh:
Shaved all my facial hair off. I'm worried I'm looking like I did pre-T and I won't pass. I pass about 100% of the time now.
Now: (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv386%2Fisnt_anything%2Fnull_zps6c39fce2.jpg&hash=f1c6770d99f442d070f99cc403538e21b97121bb) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/isnt_anything/media/null_zps6c39fce2.jpg.html)
Pre T: (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv386%2Fisnt_anything%2FPhoto12132151.jpg&hash=7a93d78e2db13ff614a7002cb831d3c6e12a2973) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/isnt_anything/media/Photo12132151.jpg.html)
Darrin, sure, I can see the resemblance. And on first sight both pictures are of the same date.
But if I look carefully the lower picture signals a lot more 'female' while the upper is more 'male'. I cannot even see a girl in the upper pic, while I can in the lower when take a close look.
It's actually kinda funny, as I cannot pinpoint exactly what changed, but still see the above pic as quite a bit more male.
Quote from: JesseO on July 30, 2013, 12:20:21 PM
Jesus, you'd pass with flying colors!
I thought you were post-t!
Quote from: Darrin Scott on August 02, 2013, 08:44:50 PM
Shaved all my facial hair off. I'm worried I'm looking like I did pre-T and I won't pass. I pass about 100% of the time now.
Now: (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv386%2Fisnt_anything%2Fnull_zps6c39fce2.jpg&hash=f1c6770d99f442d070f99cc403538e21b97121bb) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/isnt_anything/media/null_zps6c39fce2.jpg.html)
Pre T: (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv386%2Fisnt_anything%2FPhoto12132151.jpg&hash=7a93d78e2db13ff614a7002cb831d3c6e12a2973) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/isnt_anything/media/Photo12132151.jpg.html)
You should have no worries at all! I see a man in the top picture
Quote from: GiantMarkirs on August 03, 2013, 11:08:47 PM
Jesus, you'd pass with flying colors!
I thought you were post-t!
Ah! I actually am on T....but I don't have any facial hair yet and think that makes me not pass not so well, especially considering my age. Sorry for the confusion :)
Quote from: JesseO on August 04, 2013, 06:49:17 PM
Ah! I actually am on T....but I don't have any facial hair yet and think that makes me not pass not so well, especially considering my age. Sorry for the confusion :)
Not at all! I'd still think you're a full on guy :laugh: How long have you been on it for?
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Hello guys! I'm twenty years old and seven months on T.
Darn Thomas! You are cute!
Ok I dyed my shadow of a 'stache. Not a great picture off photo booth. I'd like to do it darker next time but I was worried that it would get too dark and so unrealistic. The glasses are readers which I need for the computer screen. Don't really wear glasses.
http://i.imgur.com/LfX4r8y.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/LfX4r8y.jpg)
--Jay
Quote from: aleon515 on August 05, 2013, 06:12:36 PM
Ok I dyed my shadow of a 'stache. Not a great picture off photo booth. I'd like to do it darker next time but I was worried that it would get too dark and so unrealistic. The glasses are readers which I need for the computer screen. Don't really wear glasses.
http://i.imgur.com/LfX4r8y.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/LfX4r8y.jpg)
--Jay
Not bad for an old duffer! :D :eusa_clap:
Edited, will post an updated pic later.
Quote from: aleon515 on August 05, 2013, 06:12:36 PM
Ok I dyed my shadow of a 'stache. Not a great picture off photo booth. I'd like to do it darker next time but I was worried that it would get too dark and so unrealistic. The glasses are readers which I need for the computer screen. Don't really wear glasses.
--Jay
looking good!
Quote from: Shantel on August 05, 2013, 07:00:54 PM
Not bad for an old duffer! :D :eusa_clap:
Well thank you (I think).
--Jay
Quote from: aleon515 on August 06, 2013, 01:47:07 AM
Well thank you (I think).
--Jay
I should have said, from one old broad, you look good for an old duffer. But hey, we know we're really still just kids since our rebirths anyway huh Jay?
Quote from: Shantel on August 06, 2013, 08:59:24 AM
I should have said, from one old broad, you look good for an old duffer. But hey, we know we're really still just kids since our rebirths anyway huh Jay?
That's right. I"m whatever I was going on 15. :)
Thanks sweetheart.
--Jay
Just curious as to what age I'm passing for in this photo.
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Quote from: aleon515 on August 05, 2013, 06:12:36 PM
Ok I dyed my shadow of a 'stache. Not a great picture off photo booth. I'd like to do it darker next time but I was worried that it would get too dark and so unrealistic. The glasses are readers which I need for the computer screen. Don't really wear glasses.
http://i.imgur.com/LfX4r8y.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/LfX4r8y.jpg)
--Jay
It looks great! If you don't mind me asking, how did you dye it? Did it stain your skin at all? Was it hard to do? I've been thinking about doing it, but I don't want to mess up my face, especially since I work full time.
-Lex
Quote from: MrJ on August 06, 2013, 12:32:00 PM
Just curious as to what age I'm passing for in this photo.
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I'd guess 25. I'd believe anywhere from 20-30
Quote from: aleon515 on August 05, 2013, 06:10:24 PM
Darn Thomas! You are cute!
Thanks, Jay! I saw your photos and I'm impressed of your braveness. You look perfect and I don't see anything female in your appearance despite of lacking facial hair.
Guys what do you think how old I look? Do I still look like a teenager? I'm afraid of going to the night club where you must be at least eighteen and it's hard to live this way.
Thomas1993 Hey, I think you pass as male, though you do look under 18 to me. I initially though 14ish when I saw your photos. Though go to the nightclub and see if they ask for your ID or not. :)
Quote from: Lex on August 06, 2013, 01:03:30 PM
It looks great! If you don't mind me asking, how did you dye it? Did it stain your skin at all? Was it hard to do? I've been thinking about doing it, but I don't want to mess up my face, especially since I work full time.
-Lex
Thanks. I used Just for Men Mustache and Beard. It comes in two tubes which you mix together. It's very simple to use (takes maybe 15 minutes including clean up and prep) and you would probably get many uses out of a package. Just cap the tubes tightly. I used Light Brown. I did NOT have any trouble with it dying my skin and my stache is very thin. If all you have is peach fuzz it wouldn't be recommended as it just dyes skin. I actually have hair growth, but it is very light, perhaps gray. You should wash your face after use. It would dye it if you don't remove right away. Someone told me he has to wash a few times, but I didn't have that trouble. He has very dark hair so that's maybe why. This friend of mine suggested to use a very small thin brush which I think is a good suggestion. It comes with a big thick brush which wouldn't work with a small stache like this.
--Jay
I'm at my year mark On T ;D and August 29 I have my top surgery with Dr. Garramone. Can't wait to see more changes. What do you guys think?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi43.tinypic.com%2F30v2ona.jpg&hash=4abacd4b5369462f41759e3f0ae755ef43dfe9db) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi42.tinypic.com%2F2zizrsi.jpg&hash=a11e6e3e92bc64d046d4579f3ee7c2ff33a4d6cd)
Quote from: LearnedHand on August 06, 2013, 05:46:09 PM
Thomas1993 Hey, I think you pass as male, though you do look under 18 to me. I initially though 14ish when I saw your photos. Though go to the nightclub and see if they ask for your ID or not. :)
Not sure about y'all, but where I live, the nightclubs ID everyone, even if you look 40.
AlixJungle You look great, you seem to have a masculine face, I don't see any of the femme fat on the cheeks or anything. Can't wait to see more progress. :)
Quote from: CaseyB on August 06, 2013, 06:39:26 PM
Not sure about y'all, but where I live, the nightclubs ID everyone, even if you look 40.
I have to admit, I don't really go to clubs, more of bar or restaurant drinking for me. Either way, he'll know if they start looking closely at his ID. :)
Quote from: Thomas1993 on August 06, 2013, 02:22:59 PM
Thanks, Jay! I saw your photos and I'm impressed of your braveness. You look perfect and I don't see anything female in your appearance despite of lacking facial hair.
Thanks. I am only 5'1" and small frame, but I am passing 50% of the time. I have no idea why I get gendered correctly half the time and misgendered half the time. The whole process is odd. I see male when I look at myself which makes me happy.
--Jay
Spacerace; oddly enough I think you pass better in the second pic. I think you pass based on that photo, but as pretty young.
And AlixJungle; you pass with flying colours man! I don't even see anything feminine in your face. Looking great!
AlixJungle: you look amazing! Total pass! I think you absolutely belong in the badass thread with those pics.
Jay: you always look so happy in your pics. I always end up with a grin on my face when you post one if your smiley pics. It's awesome! I love that tache! Very cool.
Spacerace: In my opinion you should avoid buzz cuts like the plague. We tend to have smaller heads than cis guys and it can be hard to judge overall hairline. Buzz cuts accentuate a smaller head and while they can seem like a go to for a masculine look, more often than not they wind up looking more feminine than masculine bad-ass. Short, but not too short is, in my opinion, the best way to go. There's a fine line between short and masculine and too short and you're in Sinead O'Connor/Alien3 Ripley territory and it becomes a more feminine look. Even cis guys can't always pull it off. When Matt Damon was growing out his hair after shaving it for Elysium, for a while it looked pretty awful until he had decent length.
Imo your hair in the 2nd pic looks great for the age you're passing at.
Quote from: spacerace on August 06, 2013, 10:57:08 PM
Could I get away with buzzing my hair and remotely have a chance of passing? Does my hairline seem unusually high already ?
You could try it, but if you want it that short you might be better off with something like a tapered or crew cut that would give it a bit more shape. Or just stick with the style in the 2nd photo you posted and keep it trimmed :P No more dilly-dallying!
Quote from: Jack_M on August 07, 2013, 06:03:33 AM
Spacerace: In my opinion you should avoid buzz cuts like the plague. We tend to have smaller heads than cis guys and it can be hard to judge overall hairline. Buzz cuts accentuate a smaller head and while they can seem like a go to for a masculine look, more often than not they wind up looking more feminine than masculine bad-ass. Short, but not too short is, in my opinion, the best way to go. There's a fine line between short and masculine and too short and you're in Sinead O'Connor/Alien3 Ripley territory and it becomes a more feminine look. Even cis guys can't always pull it off. When Matt Damon was growing out his hair after shaving it for Elysium, for a while it looked pretty awful until he had decent length.
Imo your hair in the 2nd pic looks great for the age you're passing at.
Quote from: MaybeBen on August 07, 2013, 06:45:36 AM
You could try it, but if you want it that short you might be better off with something like a tapered or crew cut that would give it a bit more shape. Or just stick with the style in the 2nd photo you posted and keep it trimmed :P No more dilly-dallying!
Thanks for the feedback guys. Yeah...I should avoid buzzing it I suppose. Too bad. My idea was to keep it that short to make sure my hair was as far away from my face as possible to help with acne (just starting T)
Quote from: CaseyB on August 06, 2013, 01:14:44 PM
I'd guess 25. I'd believe anywhere from 20-30
Thanks! That was older than I was expecting. :) Glad I'm not a teenager any more, that was bad enough the first time!
Quote from: MrJ on August 06, 2013, 12:32:00 PM
Just curious as to what age I'm passing for in this photo.
I'd say around 26-ish? Certainly above 22 - your haircut works well to show off your male hairline, which helps make you look older than your face alone would imply
Quote from: alixjunge336 on August 06, 2013, 06:37:56 PM
I'm at my year mark On T ;D and August 29 I have my top surgery with Dr. Garramone. Can't wait to see more changes. What do you guys think?
Congrats on 1 year and top surgery - you look great and pass well
Quote from: spacerace on August 07, 2013, 03:01:56 PM
I'd say around 26-ish? Certainly above 22 - your haircut works well to show off your male hairline, which helps make you look older than your face alone would imply
Thanks. Yeah, the thing about male hairline is that I'm starting to actually lose my hair. It's noticeably thinned out on top just immediately to either side of centre. When I get my hair cut I ask them to try and hide it as much as possible. I'm turning 30 this year, which is really young to go bald, but I'm trying to come to terms with hair loss. I'd still rather be a balding man than any woman.
Quote from: MrJ on August 07, 2013, 03:11:32 PM
Thanks. Yeah, the thing about male hairline is that I'm starting to actually lose my hair. It's noticeably thinned out on top just immediately to either side of centre. When I get my hair cut I ask them to try and hide it as much as possible. I'm turning 30 this year, which is really young to go bald, but I'm trying to come to terms with hair loss. I'd still rather be a balding man than any woman.
You've been on T awhile right? I think a lot of trans guys deal with this starting around the 2 year mark from what I have seen.
What about finasteride? That's my strategy for when this starts to happen. People seem to have success with it.
Quote from: spacerace on August 07, 2013, 03:24:20 PM
You've been on T awhile right? I think a lot of trans guys deal with this starting around the 2 year mark from what I have seen.
What about finasteride? That's my strategy for when this starts to happen. People seem to have success with it.
Yeah, it started around the 2 year mark for me too. It's been 2 years 4 months on T now. Who do I ask about finasteride? My endocrinologist? I'm just a little nervous about it counteracting the T, and also mood changes since it's been reported to cause depression. I don't want to mess with my mood more than I have to, since I have bipolar.
Quote from: MrJ on August 07, 2013, 03:42:17 PM
Yeah, it started around the 2 year mark for me too. It's been 2 years 4 months on T now. Who do I ask about finasteride? My endocrinologist? I'm just a little nervous about it counteracting the T.
Yeah, you can ask your Endo about it. Just do yourself a favor and research the benefits/side effects. I'm almost 8 months and my hairline is receding a lot at the temples and thinning a bit in the center. Of course it's due to DHT but that is also the same thing that is responsible for lower growth, body hair, and facial hair. There are a lot of cis guys who have sexual side effects (even shrinkage) from it but there have been no studies on us as far as that goes. I made the personal decision to keep my wiener and let the hair go whenever it does. I've started keeping it buzzed the last 6 months or so and it seems to help with the thinning being overly obvious at this point.
Thanks. I'll ask about it, and consider both sides.
Can I smile yet?
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Quote from: Nygeel on August 07, 2013, 05:52:59 PM
Can I smile yet?
Looks good to me. I also love your avatar.
Also, this is the final version of the shirt I modified. I also changed the binder underneath to fit the shirt. Any thoughts?
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Really, I just want to find a way to wear tank tops without getting top surgery.
I don't know Nygeel, I don't think it would work unless you had like a button up shirt undone over it. I think it clings a little on the moobs even with the binder on.
Quote from: LearnedHand on August 07, 2013, 07:45:03 PM
I don't know Nygeel, I don't think it would work unless you had like a button up shirt undone over it. I think it clings a little on the moobs even with the binder on.
I don't think that's exactly it...and I really really really just want to wear a tank top! D:
I think it's maybe the clinging and the general fit. I took in a bit at the shoulder seam and some in the armpit...
What about if you wore a baggier tank top Nygeel? I think that might help a bit
Quote from: Joey. on August 07, 2013, 08:09:50 PM
What about if you wore a baggier tank top Nygeel? I think that might help a bit
Baggier would mean larger armpit holes, the front would be much lower, and the straps would be further apart. Meaning my binder would be very visible. I altered the shirt and my binder in an attempt to make my binder less visible.
It does seem to cling in the chest area, but that may not be a big deal. I have been binding less and using sports bras more, and you can definitely see my chest, but I still pass.
If anyone says anythin about the binder, you can say it's a compression shirt you wear because it helps compress and support your muscles because you get a lot of muscle pain in your back/chest.
Quote from: Ketchup Packet on August 07, 2013, 08:13:44 PM
It does seem to cling in the chest area, but that may not be a big deal. I have been binding less and using sports bras more, and you can definitely see my chest, but I still pass.
Yeah...with binding and shirts that fit I pass the majority of the time but I do get the occasional crumminess where I'm not seen as male. Going to hit the 3 year mark soon-ish, too.
That really stinks :( But, your facial hair has come really far so I imagine the misgenderings are happening less. I only started passing a few months ago (I'm about 15.5 months on T) and pretty much anyone who is remotely familiar with trans people misgenders me still. -_- It's pretty hurtful when it happens and since you're approaching the 3 year mark it must suck even more than it does for me lol.
@Joey. I feel like too much of the binder would be visible. Plus, it wouldn't look very good.
@Ketchup Packet I only started getting seen as male around the 2 year mark.
I have a cast and crew screening for a movie I worked on tomorrow and was thinking of wearing this outfit. But I'm not sure if I can get away with a tucked shirt yet. Are my hips too obviously female in these jeans? Hip more obvious when I lean, can see it more in 2nd photo.
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(to prove shirt is right size, lol)
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P.S. Ignore messy hair. Not going anywhere tonight so no reason to style it after shower and air drying it always results in much hilarity I can't tame :P
Quote from: Jack_M on August 07, 2013, 10:24:37 PM
I have a cast and crew screening for a movie I worked on tomorrow and was thinking of wearing this outfit. But I'm not sure if I can get away with a tucked shirt yet. Are my hips too obviously female in these jeans?
P.S. Ignore messy hair. Not going anywhere tonight so no reason to style it after shower and air drying it always results in much hilarity I can't tame :P
I can't really tell, because of your arms, but I will say that your shirt looks a little loose in the neck.
It's unbuttoned to be more casual. This is an event where some will dress up and others will wear tshirts so I'm not going to button the top button. I loosened the tie after the photo but couldn't be bothered setting up camera again lol. The shirt is my actual size at neck (15").
Edit: changed pics but just quick snaps at mirror.
Quote from: Jack_M on August 07, 2013, 10:32:57 PM
It's unbuttoned to be more casual. This is an event where some will dress up and others will wear tshirts so I'm not going to button the top button. I loosened the tie after the photo but couldn't be bothered setting up camera again lol. The shirt is my actual size at neck (15").
Edit: changed pics but just quick snaps at mirror.
Ah. Makes sense.
Your hips do look a little curvy, but no more than a lot of cis males I've seen.
I made some voice clips for a different thread, hopefully it isn't cross-posting if I put them here. The first one came off as strained to someone so I tried making it higher in the second, but then that felt strained. D'oh >.<
What do you guys think?
https://soundcloud.com/mr-liminal/my-voice/s-htRtr
https://soundcloud.com/mr-liminal/voice-again/s-KGlHs
Quote from: Jack_M on August 07, 2013, 10:24:37 PM
I have a cast and crew screening for a movie I worked on tomorrow and was thinking of wearing this outfit. But I'm not sure if I can get away with a tucked shirt yet. Are my hips too obviously female in these jeans? Hip more obvious when I lean, can see it more in 2nd photo.
I think your hips look ok but I would be worried about a lack of bulge in the front of form fitting jeans. If I wanted to wear tighter jeans and didn't have a packer I'd stuff some briefs with socks, lol.
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on August 07, 2013, 11:51:27 PM
I made some voice clips for a different thread, hopefully it isn't cross-posting if I put them here. The first one came off as strained to someone so I tried making it higher in the second, but then that felt strained. D'oh >.<
What do you guys think?
https://soundcloud.com/mr-liminal/my-voice/s-htRtr
https://soundcloud.com/mr-liminal/voice-again/s-KGlHs
You sound like a young guy :] I wouldn't continue with straining yourself.
Quote from: Si on August 08, 2013, 04:19:51 AM
I think your hips look ok but I would be worried about a lack of bulge in the front of form fitting jeans. If I wanted to wear tighter jeans and didn't have a packer I'd stuff some briefs with socks, lol.
Oh I always pack when I go out, just didn't bother for in house shots. I use a STP packer so I don't leave the house without it, but good pick up!
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on August 07, 2013, 11:51:27 PM
I made some voice clips for a different thread, hopefully it isn't cross-posting if I put them here. The first one came off as strained to someone so I tried making it higher in the second, but then that felt strained. D'oh >.<
What do you guys think?
https://soundcloud.com/mr-liminal/my-voice/s-htRtr
https://soundcloud.com/mr-liminal/voice-again/s-KGlHs
I think you perhaps do need to rest your voice and/or talk to a doctor. The 2nd clip you're just going a little too high you kinda belong inbetween I'd say. The only part that didn't sound so strained to me is toward the end of the 1st clip. The end of the first clip just screams to me that you're subconsciously lowering it and I don't think that'll be helping you with the problems you're having, especially since you said you had all those problems in the past with bad reflux. It's not just that up bit at the end, there is a background sound to your voice, again, I can't really pinpoint it to explain but it's exactly what I get when I deliberately alter my voice up or down. I know you can't afford vocal coaching but maybe just relaxing a bit after you rest and try practicing speaking into recording device and/or singing. Find your natural range. You look young enough that your voice doesn't have to be that low so go easy on yourself. Relax a bit and find that middle ground where you're not straining your voice up or down.
I'm not accusing you of forcing your voice lower, I just think it's natural for us to want lower voices and we can end up subconsciously trying to make it so, to the point where we don't realise we're actually forcing it lower. It can happen to guys who start taking T and want their voices to get lower so badly that they kinda force a change before it actually occurs. Your first clip goes through a bit of a range and ends with you going up and then very promptly, like your brain realised it was getting too high for its liking, you jumped way back down again. You want to be at a place where your voice can stay at the same level from start to finish. Guys tend to have a more monotone drawl; affliction and level changes are more a feminine trait. It's better to be more monotone at your natural range than all over the place at a varied range.
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Quote from: Jack_M on August 08, 2013, 06:24:01 AM
I think you perhaps do need to rest your voice and/or talk to a doctor. The 2nd clip you're just going a little too high you kinda belong inbetween I'd say. The only part that didn't sound so strained to me is toward the end of the 1st clip. The end of the first clip just screams to me that you're subconsciously lowering it and I don't think that'll be helping you with the problems you're having, especially since you said you had all those problems in the past with bad reflux. It's not just that up bit at the end, there is a background sound to your voice, again, I can't really pinpoint it to explain but it's exactly what I get when I deliberately alter my voice up or down. I know you can't afford vocal coaching but maybe just relaxing a bit after you rest and try practicing speaking into recording device and/or singing. Find your natural range. You look young enough that your voice doesn't have to be that low so go easy on yourself. Relax a bit and find that middle ground where you're not straining your voice up or down.
I'm not accusing you of forcing your voice lower, I just think it's natural for us to want lower voices and we can end up subconsciously trying to make it so, to the point where we don't realise we're actually forcing it lower. It can happen to guys who start taking T and want their voices to get lower so badly that they kinda force a change before it actually occurs. Your first clip goes through a bit of a range and ends with you going up and then very promptly, like your brain realised it was getting too high for its liking, you jumped way back down again. You want to be at a place where your voice can stay at the same level from start to finish. Guys tend to have a more monotone drawl; affliction and level changes are more a feminine trait. It's better to be more monotone at your natural range than all over the place at a varied range.
Ah, I didn't think you were accusing me at all. I had no idea of it sounding strained to be lower, so I attempted to adjust it higher and seem to have overshot it. Between congestion, reflux, screaming matches (nope, you don't want to know), and way too much singing it'd make sense for my vocal cords to be especially shot about now so I'm going to try being nice to them now. Haven't properly known my range since my voice went from "really high soprano" to "hey wait why can I hit all these lower notes" to "wait why can't I hit all these high notes", during that point I didn't speak very much. So I'll just put a dorky "vocal rest" sign around my neck and give them a chance to heal up a bit, then try again. I just like fixing things :P
Up until my lovely mother demanded that I sound "human" (read: magical Disney princess), I had a pretty nice monotone going on too. Damn!
Quote from: SaveMeJeebus on August 08, 2013, 04:21:05 AM
You sound like a young guy :] I wouldn't continue with straining yourself.
Thanks, going to try not to lol
By the way, Jack, your hips look okay to me. They don't go straight down, but nor do the hips of every cis guy, either. Most will have a little of that going on when they tuck in a shirt. Without you packing the jeans threw me off just a bit, though you should be fine with them so long as you do pack.
Quote from: aleon515 on August 06, 2013, 06:10:22 PM
Thanks. I used Just for Men Mustache and Beard. It comes in two tubes which you mix together. It's very simple to use (takes maybe 15 minutes including clean up and prep) and you would probably get many uses out of a package. Just cap the tubes tightly. I used Light Brown. I did NOT have any trouble with it dying my skin and my stache is very thin. If all you have is peach fuzz it wouldn't be recommended as it just dyes skin. I actually have hair growth, but it is very light, perhaps gray. You should wash your face after use. It would dye it if you don't remove right away. Someone told me he has to wash a few times, but I didn't have that trouble. He has very dark hair so that's maybe why. This friend of mine suggested to use a very small thin brush which I think is a good suggestion. It comes with a big thick brush which wouldn't work with a small stache like this.
--Jay
Thanks for the info. I tried it but didn't really see any results. I think my hair might be too dark.
Quote from: Jack_M on August 07, 2013, 10:24:37 PM
I have a cast and crew screening for a movie I worked on tomorrow and was thinking of wearing this outfit. But I'm not sure if I can get away with a tucked shirt yet. Are my hips too obviously female in these jeans? Hip more obvious when I lean, can see it more in 2nd photo.
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(to prove shirt is right size, lol)
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P.S. Ignore messy hair. Not going anywhere tonight so no reason to style it after shower and air drying it always results in much hilarity I can't tame :P
If it's a partly casual affair why not pull the fabric up just slightly so there's a little extra around where the waist is to de-emphasize the hips a bit? Not as bad as this guy, but just not so tucked in:
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I think you look great, Jack. I do second Si's mention of packing, maybe put something in to make a slight bulge there. I also think since there will be people dressed casually you could get away with loosening up the shirt a little, just for your own comfort in terms of hips and such. But either way, you should be fine.
Thanks guys. I'll play around with it before I leave, get the best look poss.
Liminal Stranger, I actually think your voice sounds fine in the first one. It definitely passes, but like you said, it passes for a younger guy :)
What do you think about my voice? I feel like it sounds as if I'm talking through my nose in some parts? :-\ I don't know tho, it sounded different on camera as it does on the computer now. Do I sound "stereotypically gay"? Please be honest! Any tips on how to speak in a more masculine way?
http://s568.photobucket.com/user/pLutherq/media/v_zps2f63673f.mp4.html (http://s568.photobucket.com/user/pLutherq/media/v_zps2f63673f.mp4.html)
Quote from: harlee on August 08, 2013, 06:29:47 PM
What do you think about my voice? I feel like it sounds as if I'm talking through my nose in some parts? :-\ I don't know tho, it sounded different on camera as it does on the computer now. Do I sound "stereotypically gay"? Please be honest! Any tips on how to speak in a more masculine way?
http://s568.photobucket.com/user/pLutherq/media/v_zps2f63673f.mp4.html (http://s568.photobucket.com/user/pLutherq/media/v_zps2f63673f.mp4.html)
Sounds British. And male. No American would say you sound gay, as they already think anyone not from America is gay.
(PS, if your hair is light colored, you won't be getting much body hair anyway.)
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pre-T
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2 weeks on T
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2 months on T
So the last time I posted, I was pre-T and I used a picture from last year. Well, I started two months ago. What do y'all think?
Quote from: rightocaito on August 08, 2013, 08:01:12 PM
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2 weeks on T
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2 months on T
So the last time I posted, I was pre-T and I used a picture from last year. Well, I started two months ago. What do y'all think?
You seem to have lost weight. You're masculanizing well. Maybe try some shoulder exercises though?
Quote from: harlee on August 08, 2013, 06:29:47 PM
What do you think about my voice? I feel like it sounds as if I'm talking through my nose in some parts? :-\ I don't know tho, it sounded different on camera as it does on the computer now. Do I sound "stereotypically gay"? Please be honest! Any tips on how to speak in a more masculine way?
nah I don't think it sounds gay, actually you have a really nice, male voice. >:-)
I know how you feel about the body hair too :(
Quote from: harlee on August 08, 2013, 06:29:47 PM
Liminal Stranger, I actually think your voice sounds fine in the first one. It definitely passes, but like you said, it passes for a younger guy :)
What do you think about my voice? I feel like it sounds as if I'm talking through my nose in some parts? :-\ I don't know tho, it sounded different on camera as it does on the computer now. Do I sound "stereotypically gay"? Please be honest! Any tips on how to speak in a more masculine way?
http://s568.photobucket.com/user/pLutherq/media/v_zps2f63673f.mp4.html (http://s568.photobucket.com/user/pLutherq/media/v_zps2f63673f.mp4.html)
I couldn't find your voice clip Harlee, just photos. ???
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Hey guys. I pretty much pass in everyday life, though not particularly well. I'm pre-T and pre-surgery...what do you think? Any suggestions?
Quote from: Soren on August 08, 2013, 07:21:27 PM
Sounds British. And male. No American would say you sound gay, as they already think anyone not from America is gay.
(PS, if your hair is light colored, you won't be getting much body hair anyway.)
That's in no way a British accent, definitely aussie... Kinda funny if you think we sound like that too. It's strange to hear people on here speaking in different accents because I read all of your posts in a British accent because I'm British.
I wouldn't question either of your voices, but I'm not very good at picking up on those sorts of things.
Quote from: AlexanderC on August 09, 2013, 12:31:20 PM
That's in no way a British accent, definitely aussie... Kinda funny if you think we sound like that too. It's strange to hear people on here speaking in different accents because I read all of your posts in a British accent because I'm British.
I've only heard one aussie before, so I can't really tell the difference :P
Quote from: Soren on August 08, 2013, 07:21:27 PM
(PS, if your hair is light colored, you won't be getting much body hair anyway.)
If you don't mind me asking, where did you hear that from?
I'm curious because my body hair is white and I'm pre-t and much more hairy than my brothers already. I don't have high T levels or anything, I just always thought body hair growth was down to genetics.
Quote from: ForWantOf on August 09, 2013, 07:36:39 PM
If you don't mind me asking, where did you hear that from?
I'm curious because my body hair is white and I'm pre-t and much more hairy than my brothers already. I don't have high T levels or anything, I just always thought body hair growth was down to genetics.
It is genetics. I know lots of blonde people who have lots of body hair. A lot are from colder parts of Europe and would need to have evolved body hair to stay warm.
Quote from: ForWantOf on August 09, 2013, 07:36:39 PM
If you don't mind me asking, where did you hear that from?
I'm curious because my body hair is white and I'm pre-t and much more hairy than my brothers already. I don't have high T levels or anything, I just always thought body hair growth was down to genetics.
It's more like it's less noticeable, especially if it matches your skin color. I have way more than I used to, but it's hard to see unless you stick your face in the area.
Quote from: Soren on August 09, 2013, 08:24:58 PM
It's more like it's less noticeable, especially if it matches your skin color. I have way more than I used to, but it's hard to see unless you stick your face in the area.
You can have really noticeable body hair that is dark and still have light head hair
Most people in my family on my dad's side have blond head hair- but the men have bear levels of dark, super obvious body hair; forearm hair, feet hair, chest hair, you name it (back hair!).
We have light hair and dark brown eyebrows. Our hair is straw white as kids and gets gradually darker with age, ending up at sandy blond/dishwater blonde/light brown. I expect to be super hairy shortly, and I already have a good amount of it to start off with
Quote from: spacerace on August 09, 2013, 08:36:45 PM
You can have really noticeable body hair that is dark and still have light head hair
Most people in my family on my dad's side have blond head hair- but the men have bear levels of dark, super obvious body hair; forearm hair, feet hair, chest hair, you name it (back hair!).
We have light hair and dark brown eyebrows. Our hair is straw white as kids and gets gradually darker with age, ending up at sandy blond/dishwater blonde/light brown. I expect to be super hairy shortly, and I already have a good amount of it to start off with
I guess eyebrows are a better prediction. I guess I was just basing it off people around here, but since the weather is temperamental and goes between freezing to boiling, genetics can't really decide if body hair would be a good thing or not.
Quote from: Soren on August 09, 2013, 08:44:51 PM
I guess eyebrows are a better prediction. I guess I was just basing it off people around here, but since the weather is temperamental and goes between freezing to boiling, genetics can't really decide if body hair would be a good thing or not.
My eyebrows are practically invisible... horray :-\ I've always wanted a visible happy trail... guess I'll just have to wait and see what T does, considering nobody in my family has my hair color. there are upsides to not being a bear though, so maybe I should be happy about my white hair.
Quote from: harlee on August 08, 2013, 06:29:47 PM
Liminal Stranger, I actually think your voice sounds fine in the first one. It definitely passes, but like you said, it passes for a younger guy :)
What do you think about my voice? I feel like it sounds as if I'm talking through my nose in some parts? :-\ I don't know tho, it sounded different on camera as it does on the computer now. Do I sound "stereotypically gay"? Please be honest! Any tips on how to speak in a more masculine way?
http://s568.photobucket.com/user/pLutherq/media/v_zps2f63673f.mp4.html (http://s568.photobucket.com/user/pLutherq/media/v_zps2f63673f.mp4.html)
Not gay at all. You don't need tips to speak in a more masculine way imo.
Quote from: rightocaito on August 08, 2013, 08:01:12 PM
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pre-T
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2 weeks on T
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2 months on T
So the last time I posted, I was pre-T and I used a picture from last year. Well, I started two months ago. What do y'all think?
Nice progress :)
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Hey guys. I pretty much pass in everyday life, though not particularly well. I'm pre-T and pre-surgery...what do you think? Any suggestions?
I can't see your pictures, am I the only one?
They appear as broken links, but I can see them if I right-click and directly open the image. Photobucket seems to have that issue sometimes.
Rex and Caito, you both look fine. Also you sound completely normal to me, Harlee. There's a huge difference between that video and the one you made pre-T, congratulations on your progress!
Thanks for the replies! It's good to know that my voice sounds ok :P
Rightocaito, you look great! You definitely pass and it looks like you're changing quickly!
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2 weeks on T
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2 months on T
So the last time I posted, I was pre-T and I used a picture from last year. Well, I started two months ago. What do y'all think?
You total pass already imo. Looking good mister :-*
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on August 10, 2013, 08:15:31 AM
They appear as broken links, but I can see them if I right-click and directly open the image. Photobucket seems to have that issue sometimes.
Rex and Caito, you both look fine. Also you sound completely normal to me, Harlee. There's a huge difference between that video and the one you made pre-T, congratulations on your progress!
Oh really. From what I can see you pass Rex.
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2 months on T
So the last time I posted, I was pre-T and I used a picture from last year. Well, I started two months ago. What do y'all think?
I don't know if anybody has told you this but in this pic you actually look a lot like a young John Travolta! So yeah I think the T is working! btw I love that look on your face in that pic it shows confidence/cockiness very masculine. I think your going to pass quite well
Quote from: Heather on August 12, 2013, 03:15:01 PM
I don't know if anybody has told you this but in this pic you actually look a lot like a young John Travolta! So yeah I think the T is working! btw I love that look on your face in that pic it shows confidence/cockiness very masculine. I think your going to pass quite well
No I think more like a young Tony Danza!
Quote from: Shantel on August 12, 2013, 04:16:51 PM
No I think more like a young Tony Danza!
I can see that too! But whoever he looks like I see major hotness potential. If he's looking this good in just 2 months I cannot even imagine what he'll look like in a year. ;)
Hey guys, this is a pic of me from about two months ago (my hair has grown out since and definately won't pass now.) I figured I'd post and see if you guys think I could pass or not (I'm pre-T BTW.)
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Look how high I can get my quiff now! Morrissey-tastic!
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Well, im very new to all of this but i was bored tonight so i figured i'd post a pic.
Pre everything, hell im not even binding(then again i wear an A if that. Still too much imo) in my eyes i can see the boyishness i just wonder what i look like in everyone elses eyes :P
BeefxCake, when I look at that pic I see a guy. Period. Us FtM's might have an easier time 'seeing through' your physical 'disguise', but I'd prolly see you as a guy even if I didn't know you were trans. Or stick with really andro and be totally puzzled about your gender, lol!
Deeperthanswords, awesome hair dude! I might get something like that at some point. Now I'm afraid it will be a bit too flashy for a pre-T transguy tho'.
Lostforalltime, I think you pass in that pic. Cannot say anything about you IRL, but in that pic you look like a guy to me. Period.
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I think I look pretty guyish in this pic (even though my hair is long. Gonna cut my dreads next week. Feeling sad about it, but it's time for a change...), especially my body shape.
Whenever I see myself with clothes I think "Dat horrible female face!" and when I go to take a bath and catch a glimpse of my naked female-ness I think "Such a masculine face for that asgfhdjfkjhkjkdhfjghkj *spaz out* feminine body!"
I hate the mirror in our bathroom. It's my mortal enemy. I cannot even avoid looking in it, the way it's placed! >:I
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pre-t femininity also i'm wearing a hood to hide my hair
@iamconfused you pass to me.
@erik you looking good, pass as a young male.
@beefxcake you pass as a young male too, you look like Light from death note :D
Rexyrex: oh my i do... Defitely not a bad thing at all xD
Hey guys,
My name is Shawn!
This is my first post and I thought it would be good to get strangers opinions. I am pre T ( staring in two weeks!!) and pre op.
I am from British Columbia .
Cheers
Ps. I don't have blue eyes those are contacts.
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Why do you shave one eyebrow?
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I think I look pretty guyish in this pic (even though my hair is long. Gonna cut my dreads next week. Feeling sad about it, but it's time for a change...)
Nooo, not the dreads, lol. In all actuality you'll probably like the ease of care with short hair. I'm loving keeping my head buzzed. I think you pass pretty well considering you're pre T. With your body shape I think T will do wonders for you.
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pre-t femininity also i'm wearing a hood to hide my hair.
Don't be so sad. You look like somebody stole your puppy, lol. I could see you passing but really young.
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You already pass but T will help and put some years on you. Congrats on starting in a few weeks.
Quote from: stenomaster on August 13, 2013, 06:39:37 PM
Why do you shave one eyebrow?
Just a style thing. Just like people get lines/images on the side of their heads. It's more of an "urban" thing.
Quote from: Si on August 13, 2013, 08:22:41 PM
Nooo, not the dreads, lol. In all actuality you'll probably like the ease of care with short hair. I'm loving keeping my head buzzed. I think you pass pretty well considering you're pre T. With your body shape I think T will do wonders for you.
Don't be so sad. You look like somebody stole your puppy, lol. I could see you passing but really young.
You already pass but T will help and put some years on you. Congrats on starting in a few weeks.
Hey thanks!
I know what you mean. People (mostly) think I am a teenage boy and certainly not (almost) 23 years old.
Quote from: Heather on August 12, 2013, 05:02:23 PM
I can see that too! But whoever he looks like I see major hotness potential. If he's looking this good in just 2 months I cannot even imagine what he'll look like in a year. ;)
Y'all flatter me. Thank you all for your kind words! :D
Shawn, I think you pass pretty well! And I never heard of the eyebrow thing before!
Iamconfused, I think you pass too! Though as pretty young.
QuoteNooo, not the dreads, lol. In all actuality you'll probably like the ease of care with short hair. I'm loving keeping my head buzzed. I think you pass pretty well considering you're pre T. With your body shape I think T will do wonders for you.
Lol! Mwhaha! I will do it anyway! XD
And I think so too, yeah! Dreads -especially mature ones, like mine- are very easy in care as well. You actually don't have to do anything (a lot of people do, but I'm lazy). But it's still quite a weight that hangs on your head, as you hardly loose any hairs. And it takes ages to dry, etc. so yeah, it will be really nice to have shorter hair I think.
And I'm looking forward till being able to start T. Waiting lists are long though... :/
I know i don't pass at all. I don't even own a binder yet and only some male tees and thats all...
Mom say'd that i look nothing like a guy.... :( *i'm out as genderqueer to her*
Well. Mrh. Gonna leave these here just for sheer curiosity....*you like meh cool eye?* i wear glasses but they make my face look horrible....
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*that's not my room,i'm at a relative's house :p.
Oh and Yes. I'm insanely short....i just hate that....
Quote from: Kei22 on August 15, 2013, 08:29:48 AM
I know i don't pass at all. I don't even own a binder yet and only some male tees and thats all...
Mom say'd that i look nothing like a guy.... :( *i'm out as genderqueer to her*
Well. Mrh. Gonna leave these here just for sheer curiosity....*you like meh cool eye?* i wear glasses but they make my face look horrible....
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*that's not my room,i'm at a relative's house :p.
Oh and Yes. I'm insanely short....i just hate that....
dude you have an extremely masculine face. An excellent, strong chin. To me, your face (even with long hair) passes 100 percent. Ditch the skinny jeans (which dont even look good on the 12 year old girls they were made for), wear a darker t-shirt and maybe consider hair cut to emphasize your manly chin and I wouldn't look twice at you on the street.
Your face is going to be your biggest asset before you start Testosterone. Just update your wardrobe and you'll be golden.
So bottom line:
emphasize your face
take the focus off your chest by wearing darker colored shirts or shirts with patters
take the focus off your hips by wearing pants made for adult men.
Wow, yeah, you've got a seriously strong jawline and chin. Lucky you!
Yes!! I want and will totally ditch the skinny jeans and get more "adult" clothes for men*as in boy's section*.
I'm very small and guess what...i am 24 years old xD.
I will buy clothes from asian stores and kids sections online.
Any tips?. I know i am already medium in kid size and 13 in shoes*kids too* i just need to figure out my pant size which in afult i'm maybe a 29 or less*is there are sizes more small*
And on the haircut,i would love to but I don't know which haircut can i do.
Care to tell and show?!
Thanks guys!! I knew i had a masculine face but my mom telling otherwise over and over makes me doubt.
PD: MaybeBen: I DETECT ANIME!
Quote from: Kei22 on August 15, 2013, 11:06:39 AM
Yes!! I want and will totally ditch the skinny jeans and get more "adult" clothes for men*as in boy's section*.
I'm very small and guess what...i am 24 years old xD.
I will buy clothes from asian stores and kids sections online.
Any tips?. I know i am already medium in kid size and 13 in shoes*kids too* i just need to figure out my pant size which in afult i'm maybe a 29 or less*is there are sizes more small*
And on the haircut,i would love to but I don't know which haircut can i do.
Care to tell and show?!
Thanks guys!! I knew i had a masculine face but my mom telling otherwise over and over makes me doubt.
PD: MaybeBen: I DETECT ANIME!
Your pants size is just the measurment in inchese of your waist (or wherever you prefer to wear your pants) If you are 24 then it is time to start heading for a more mature style. You should look around at men around the age 30 and see what they wear. I am hesitant to make specific clothing suggestions because I do not know where you live and each culture usually follows a unique fashion trend. Maybe just type in "men's fashion" and search images?
As far as your haircut, again i think you should look in magazines and just pick a style you see on men with similiar features, its a good time for you to experiement. If I had your hair, I would probably be tempted to keep it long and maybe pull it back or just get a slightly more masculine angle to it or something.
Your mom is probably trying to convince herself, because I see nothing feminine about your face.
Quote from: Kei22 on August 15, 2013, 11:06:39 AM
And on the haircut,i would love to but I don't know which haircut can i do.
Care to tell and show?!
Thanks guys!! I knew i had a masculine face but my mom telling otherwise over and over makes me doubt.
Chuck offers really good advice and let me also suggest that I see a Sylvester Stallone look about your face, you might look at his hairstyle for a starter as it seems to work for the shape of his face.
Well i would look kibd of bad... because i look quite young and i love shirts...dress shirts but i doubt those clothes would fit me :(.
As for the haircut,and or fashion don't be afrad to suggest,in my country the dress code is like here in auS. Am actually from the Dominican Republic.
Guys here wear mostly buzz cuts and maybe,maaaybe. Some long hair. Its just more of a choice than to follow any specific trend or fashion.
In short: i can wear whatever l0l.
I think you can pass, but like many FTMs it seems to be hard to not look very young.
P.S. I'm jealous of your eyebrows (They aren't too feminine but also don't look gross)
Here's a full body shot.
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I am really stocky and short 5'4. I think this helps me pass way better then if I was my "recommended" weight. My extra fluff hides curves and stuff. I haven't been misgendered in a really long time,but I think it has a lot to do with the way i carry myself and being more "urban" like. Plus I grow a really cool chinstrap/neck beard although my testosterone levels are normal for a female bodied person. Sometimes I feel like I'm not binding well and that my moobs are really noticeable but then I have to realize that i am going to be my own worse critic right.
thatboyfresh: I can't believe you're not on T, and I never say that to people. To me you carry your weight very well, it's doesn't look like "fluff" at all, you just look like a stockier guy. I'm pretty jealous actually lol.
Quote from: caleb. on August 15, 2013, 05:25:21 PM
thatboyfresh: I can't believe you're not on T, and I never say that to people. To me you carry your weight very well, it's doesn't look like "fluff" at all, you just look like a stockier guy. I'm pretty jealous actually lol.
Yo thanks!
I've been living as male out side my home since the age of 11 so I think that has developed my male swagger. I do know I am very fortunate in that respect though and in terms of my genetics and looks. I can imagine that for a lot of men it isnt just that easy. And I respect those guys for enduring that.
a new pic,after some bad days,do i still pass?when i put my hair up (like in the pic) i dont pass somtimes,but i pass 100% when it's on my forehead
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Gonna post another one so you guys can give me more tips and stuff :)
This one is from today.
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Quote from: jossef-ftm on August 15, 2013, 07:28:37 PM
a new pic,after some bad days,do i still pass?when i put my hair up (like in the pic) i dont pass somtimes,but i pass 100% when it's on my forehead
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Of course you do, looking good Jossef!
hey, i don't think I pass yet (pre-everything but binder) but I was looking for tips to maybe pass better before T.
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I think you pass just fine. The only thing that stands out a little is the hip to waist ratio. Otherwise you are a very good looking guy.
Quote from: NathanielM on August 16, 2013, 09:49:19 AM
hey, i don't think I pass yet (pre-everything but binder) but I was looking for tips to maybe pass better before T.
You pass really well in both of those pictures. I don't even know what to suggest to you - maybe start working out your upper body to change your shoulder to hip ratio.
Quote from: spacerace on August 16, 2013, 01:39:49 PM
You pass really well in both of those pictures. I don't even know what to suggest to you - maybe start working out your upper body to change your shoulder to hip ratio.
Really? I think I should stop trusting my mirror. I am working out but starting out slowly because of weak shoulders, and I'm losing some weight too ;D I can't help smiling now, you guys made my day!
Quote from: NathanielM on August 16, 2013, 02:54:18 PM
Really? I think I should stop trusting my mirror. I am working out but starting out slowly because of weak shoulders, and I'm losing some weight too ;D I can't help smiling now, you guys made my day!
To me you pass just fine :)
Do you shape your eyebrows btw?
I cant believe any of you are even asking if you pass.. I dont see any female in any of you
I look terrible and not going to ask anymore cause Im well aware of the fact I dont pass at all. I get nothing but constant reminders of that fact
Quote from: Leo. on August 16, 2013, 07:10:48 PM
I cant believe any of you are even asking if you pass.. I dont see any female in any of you
I look terrible and not going to ask anymore cause Im well aware of the fact I dont pass at all. I get nothing but constant reminders of that fact
I think the re-afirmation from a total stranger is what is comforting. It is really hard to see the "real you" through your own eyes. For me sometimes I look in the mirror and wonder how on earth I pass. And sometimes I look and see nothing but a male looking back at me.
Quote from: Bardoux on August 16, 2013, 04:46:51 PM
To me you pass just fine :)
Do you shape your eyebrows btw?
Haven't touched them evr in my life.
a new pic,i tried to draw a few fake facal hair,wht u guys think does it look fake?
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Quote from: jossef-ftm on August 17, 2013, 09:43:26 AM
a new pic,i tried to draw a few fake facal hair,wht u guys think does it look fake?
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Can't even see it.
Can't really see any facial hair, is it supposed to be your chin? I'd advise you don't try fake facial hair in public, though, as it could become obvious if folk take a 2nd look and could out you, which I know would be very dangerous for you.
Quote from: androidnick on August 19, 2013, 11:05:44 AM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/100327804@N07/9545673771/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/100327804@N07/9545673771/)
Basically it's my profile pic. I can't figure out how to upload a picture on here from flickr so that it can be seen bigger! Ugh oh well. I'd appreciate it if someone showed me how to do that. regardless, does my face pass at all?
Images need to be uploaded to an image hosting site like Photobucket or Imageshack. You can load pictures into the Gallery here directly. Hugs, Devlyn
I didn't know it would work from flickr, ya learn something new every day!
I'll be honest, you look more male than female by far, however the trouble you face is one that so many FTMs face and that is looking over 18. I haven't heard of solutions for this, but maybe someone here has a trick or two.
Nick, you definitely look like a guy, but you do look very young (like, middle school age). I feel like you look a little older in the second picture than the first, but equally male in both.
I just got a haircut, so I have some new pictures to share as well!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fk2ybnbI.png&hash=aa2ba9fcaaf04bf8683a8a80b263cb1407a479a6)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ft38alfm.png&hash=1eb9948229409828df8f405e47b2029e377a698c)
Also, a video so you can hear what my voice is sounding like lately:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VMmDNla61M&feature=youtu.be
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv386%2Fisnt_anything%2F0905A79B-9A92-473B-BEC4-AA18B055F748-941-000000601DF3BC6D_zps21557741.jpg&hash=5d5de1a94478923b1f6544287e596ada03ef099d) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/isnt_anything/media/0905A79B-9A92-473B-BEC4-AA18B055F748-941-000000601DF3BC6D_zps21557741.jpg.html)
I know I pass, but for how old? I'm 27 so I hope I'm close to that lol.
Thanks! Haha, I work with middle schoolers a lot, and have a long history of my students thinking I'm one of them.
Darrin, I'm not great at pinpointing exact ages, but I would say you look like you're in your early to mid 20s.
Quote from: Darrin Scott on August 20, 2013, 06:54:17 PM
I know I pass, but for how old? I'm 27 so I hope I'm close to that lol.
~24
Crow your new haircut looks great, and your voice is sounding deeper too. :)
QUESTIONS AND PICTURES. SO. I try to cover my head/face with a hat and my glasses. Maybe makes a difference in that I feel more covered up and therefore secure... Does the hat/glasses even make a difference in the way of hiding feminine features? I probably need the glasses, I'm working on getting a slightly more masculine pair, which is hard when you hate little square glasses you can see straight past, with a tiny square of clarity. I like them big and dorky so that I can you know, see everything. Tips from you guys with specs?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKaeqYuI.jpg&hash=b76ee534037080664468c6286292435c19888506)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUAug2UO.jpg&hash=2d8af1cb2fc2addc8e642fccdf433eaf13787d78)
*edit: go figure I didn't post the hat n glasses one.
I guess I'm okay with being a pretty guy so long as I can pass as a guy. I'm pretty sure I just look female or androgynous. I'm insecure about it all, because I get people asking "Why would you want to be a guy? You're such a pretty girl!"
Makes me feel like I only make an attractive girl, which would be okay, but that's not entirely/at all what I'm going for :/
And I guess I have to ask since I'm pretty settled on the name; Do I look like an Eliot? Not that I care, I like it, but my friend said it suits me. Yay/nay?
Second pic passes to me, first not so much. Hat/glasses combo definitely helps. I'd say you could look like an Elliot, though if that's what you've settled on go for it.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOcBYeUq.jpg%3F1&hash=4716262dd353abfbf8e672e62c241a6abdf3fb50) Disregarding the hair, pass? (Note: Yes, those are indeed wrinkles, I should probably take another pic to show it but my phone died.)
Close-up shot after attempting to fix some of the many wrinkles in that shirt:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSn6HRT2.jpg&hash=997c638f67d2052d474e19c6465bb93d4302f592)
I think you pass well for a guy your age Liminal.
birdline - I actually think the glasses hurt rather than help - they emphasize the size and smaller shape of your face and draw attention to your eyes/eyebrows, which are probably the most feminine feature on your face. Eliot is a good name choice.
Guys, looking awesome! And passing for sure.
I don't know about voices though, as those can be make-or-break, as I experienced last week.
You see, I cut off my dreads (for lots of reasons, including passing better), I miss them, but it was the thing that had to be done. Last week I was on university intro. I was too sheepish to introduce myself as a guy (especially because EVERY form says "Miss *birthname*" or something of sorts. ARGH). I have been gendered as male on first sight multiple times, but each time when I came closer or spoke people came back from it and were like "Ohhh, sorry Miss!" (I really wanted to shake them and say "DON'T SAY SORRY! YOU DID IT RIGHT!!!" lol) and especially the girls gave me a "Eww, is that a lesbian" look quite a few times. 'twas pretty unsettling. Which frustrates me most is that I cannot do much about my voice until I get on T, which will take a LONG time. I wish I wasn't such a wimp and would stand up for myself more. I'm seriously thinking about finding an LGBT group (mainly for the T part) and meet fellow transpeople to talk about stuff, and get into therapy to accept myself as a TRUE guy. Not some wannabe, weak, worthless guy.
But anyway, sorry for the rambling. Just had to tell that for a sec. This is how I look now;
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi513.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft337%2Fbellaaaatje112%2F20130815_144605_zps54f56019.jpg&hash=596d0a6708ee8a668fefdaccea2bc7d56a502d9d)
Starting to look more guyish, eh? :)
Indeed you are, Erik! Sorry to hear about all the misgendering with paperwork and all, you should definitely get in touch with an LGBT group and find out if you can get something done about it as well. The first step is the hardest, though, so good luck!
And thanks, guys. I wasn't sure if it'd be okay considering that's a kids' shirt and I'm not binding at all but it seems to work alright.
Hopefully with their starting size plus whatever shrinkage T will eventually provide, I can just get peri and not worry about scarring (EDS doesn't make that very pretty, which is why DI would provide an amount of worry since I do seem to have at least some skin involvement in the disorder). Keeping my fingers crossed, ladies, gents, and others!
Quote from: Erik Ezrin on August 22, 2013, 02:08:52 PM
Not some wannabe, weak, worthless guy.
Don't ever think that.
(btw the short hair looks good and you pass to me)
Liminal, the difference between a shirt and a blouse is how often it sees an iron. ;D
Erik, I like the long-haired look and you won't be misgendered once you can grow that goatee. (Sorry. Not helping, I know.)
More constructively, I think you should go for shorter, rectangular eyeglasses in a metal or black frame when you can. Something like
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.realmenrealstyle.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F02%2Fmatt-damon-oval-face.png&hash=e0f90336de993e858ae8ee7ea06f7d9e76a823e7)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.realmenrealstyle.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F02%2Fmasi-oka-heart-shaped-face.png&hash=3dd3b9add1df2205c5ab45df718626bb89dd3c21)
Maybe fill in your eyebrow arches, though I really hate to give advice on makeup.
Voice... this is just my opinion, but FtM voice practice doesn't get as much attention as it deserves. I should start a topic on this, but at 5'5" or taller, almost everyone is capable of masculine resonance if not pitch. And the male pitch pattern... is so straightforward even a caveman can do it. (Monotone. It's almost a perfect monotone.) Those two will make you sound like a teenage boy whose voice hasn't broke yet, confidence then sells it.
I should start a topic on this.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1227.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee434%2Fcalister23%2F1148858_440909876024555_1911484683_n.jpg&hash=c6829dfa0ccaac6344c5b2fd72a4bcae98f83c3b)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1227.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee434%2Fcalister23%2F1102421_10201739090384834_923059864_o.jpg&hash=85cb9c5ddb0343b76a3339e793febf6c763d20c1)
Just wanting to see if I am passing, I am now 2 and a half months on T!
I had a very difficult time passing before I began Testosterone. I am 6 months and 15 days on Testosterone. I'm not sure how much I have changed since then or if I pass much better or not (other than my voice has gotten completely passable I know)
Before T:
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After T:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.tinypic.com%2Fi6gjlw.jpg&hash=2b476a7fb9b6c209dc449d479251d55317b16caf)
Most recent photo:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi42.tinypic.com%2Fajqbkj.jpg&hash=dfbba1fb3b672be5ce98454d1ee8c1f1d2a8aa55)
My puffy lips and chubby face will be the death of me. Also I'm only 5'3'' and have gained quite a bit of weight since starting T.
@ Vincent, if your voice is low, you'd pass to me. There were guys at my study who looked more feminine than you do (but they had a deep voice which made clear they weren't women)
@ Charlie, I think you pass. First pic is hard to see, but in the second I see a guy.
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Erik, I like the long-haired look and you won't be misgendered once you can grow that goatee. (Sorry. Not helping, I know.)
Haha, I know :P But yeah, I like it myself too. In my dreams I have long hair/dreads and a badass goatee (probably dreads, cause they are easier in upkeep and more awesome), but right now that's out of question. :/
I'm also thinking about experimenting with weird colours, like blue, orange, green, etc. but I'm afraid that it will make me look too 'punk'-ish, and sub sequentially more like a lesbian (some girls thought I was a lesbian already. Which was kinda annoying...), what do you guys think??
QuoteMore constructively, I think you should go for shorter, rectangular eyeglasses in a metal or black frame when you can. Something like
I'm not entirely sure about my glasses either, but my mom tried to ship me with super feminine ones, so I'm glad I ended up with a sort-of unisex pair. I cannot get new ones though, unless I want to pay them myself (they paid the first pair, and the rest is for me), so I'll just stick to these for a while.
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Maybe fill in your eyebrow arches, though I really hate to give advice on makeup.
That works, yeah. I mostly do it, but I have to hone my crappy makeup skills, lol. I always end up with two different eyebrows!
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Voice... this is just my opinion, but FtM voice practice doesn't get as much attention as it deserves. I should start a topic on this, but at 5'5" or taller, almost everyone is capable of masculine resonance if not pitch. And the male pitch pattern... is so straightforward even a caveman can do it. (Monotone. It's almost a perfect monotone.) Those two will make you sound like a teenage boy whose voice hasn't broke yet, confidence then sells it.
Practising it. When I'm relaxed it sort of works out, but when I'm excited my pitch goes all over the place... ugh! But practise makes perfect! :)
Quote from: Erik Ezrin on August 22, 2013, 02:08:52 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi513.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft337%2Fbellaaaatje112%2F20130815_144605_zps54f56019.jpg&hash=596d0a6708ee8a668fefdaccea2bc7d56a502d9d)
Starting to look more guyish, eh? :)
You look so different to when you had dread locks. Pretty spiffy glasses :P. It sucks to hear how everyone was. I think it is a great idea to find an LGBT group and find a therapist. Good luck.
Quote from: charlie85 on August 22, 2013, 10:28:25 PM
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Dinosaur! What does your t-shirt say? And who is that gorgeous guy on your right? ::)
Quote from: Vincent on August 22, 2013, 11:52:25 PM
Most recent photo:
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Sweet, blue hair!
Quote from: Erik Ezrin on August 22, 2013, 02:08:52 PM
You see, I cut off my dreads (for lots of reasons, including passing better)
Your short hair looks really good, and you pass well with it. The recommendation for glasses with a smaller frame is a good one.
Quote from: charlie85 on August 22, 2013, 10:28:25 PM
Just wanting to see if I am passing, I am now 2 and a half months on T!
If your voice has started changing, I bet you pass in person without a problem most of the time.
Quote from: Vincent on August 22, 2013, 11:52:25 PM
I had a very difficult time passing before I began Testosterone. I am 6 months and 15 days on Testosterone. I'm not sure how much I have changed since then or if I pass much better or not (other than my voice has gotten completely passable I know)
Your face squared out noticeably - while your face is fuller and you did say you gained weight, I think T did change your facial structure, making you have some of those subtle changes that are hard to describe, and your face definitely passes better than the pre T pic.
Hey guys, I know I don't pass but I didn't want to start a whole new post just to post these pics.
So... Yay! My first binder! Obviously it can only do so much with all 240lbs of me, but still! It feels great :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi111.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn139%2Ftokataro%2FIMG_20130823_173233.jpg&hash=58354359c1bf87df0dc77c13b1e9a9c7ee0d48c2)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi111.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn139%2Ftokataro%2FIMG_20130823_174110.jpg&hash=4618ee92aac423e39d0822bbda3fd836444dd3da)
Hey Ben,
You look good, like a real cute chunky guy!
Quote from: Erik Ezrin on August 22, 2013, 02:08:52 PM
Guys, looking awesome! And passing for sure.
I don't know about voices though, as those can be make-or-break, as I experienced last week.
You see, I cut off my dreads (for lots of reasons, including passing better), I miss them, but it was the thing that had to be done. Last week I was on university intro. I was too sheepish to introduce myself as a guy (especially because EVERY form says "Miss *birthname*" or something of sorts. ARGH). I have been gendered as male on first sight multiple times, but each time when I came closer or spoke people came back from it and were like "Ohhh, sorry Miss!" (I really wanted to shake them and say "DON'T SAY SORRY! YOU DID IT RIGHT!!!" lol) and especially the girls gave me a "Eww, is that a lesbian" look quite a few times. 'twas pretty unsettling. Which frustrates me most is that I cannot do much about my voice until I get on T, which will take a LONG time. I wish I wasn't such a wimp and would stand up for myself more. I'm seriously thinking about finding an LGBT group (mainly for the T part) and meet fellow transpeople to talk about stuff, and get into therapy to accept myself as a TRUE guy. Not some wannabe, weak, worthless guy.
But anyway, sorry for the rambling. Just had to tell that for a sec. This is how I look now;
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi513.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft337%2Fbellaaaatje112%2F20130815_144605_zps54f56019.jpg&hash=596d0a6708ee8a668fefdaccea2bc7d56a502d9d)
Starting to look more guyish, eh? :)
I miss those epic dreads, lol, but you look good either way.
I mostly responded just to tell you I really feel for you on all you said. I pass most of the time now and I STILL get that exact same feeling. It's hard, and being misgendered makes it harder.
Caleb, I miss them too. But I don't regret what I've done, because I have thought it over well and knew I was probably going to miss them. I never had many hairstyles before my dreads, and mainly walked around with long hair. I just wanted to know what it feels like to have short hair, and maybe experiment with colours a bit (I'm afraid that will make even more people think I'm lesbian tho'. Grrr), so I know that dreads are really THE hairstyle for me. (as how can you know your favourite dish if you've only tasted two dishes?)
I will DEFINITELY get a new set once I get on T, but I hope to get them sooner. Maybe when I'm out to my friends and they see and address me as a guy or something.
And besides that, short hair is really relaxed and nice too. But it lacks the "badass factor" that dreads have, lol ;)
Anyway, thanks. It's difficult sometimes, but quitting is not an option!
Quote from: MaybeBen on August 23, 2013, 05:48:35 PM
Hey guys, I know I don't pass but I didn't want to start a whole new post just to post these pics.
So... Yay! My first binder! Obviously it can only do so much with all 240lbs of me, but still! It feels great :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi111.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn139%2Ftokataro%2FIMG_20130823_173233.jpg&hash=58354359c1bf87df0dc77c13b1e9a9c7ee0d48c2)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi111.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn139%2Ftokataro%2FIMG_20130823_174110.jpg&hash=4618ee92aac423e39d0822bbda3fd836444dd3da)
That is one ghastly tongue you have *Shivers*
(Kidding!)
@ MaybeBen, I think you look like a nice and friendly guy. Your face is on the feminine side, but not that bad, really. Maybe colouring your eyebrows helps, I found that that's a great and easy trick to appear more masculine!
MaybeBen - Your body passes to me, I'm not so sure about your head though. Maybe it's the smile though because you pass to me in the second one. A slightly longer haircut perhaps?
Erik - I couldn't believe it was you without the dreads! I'd try and steer clear of bright colours though because they do look more lesbian.
Hey guys!
this is my second entry on this forum.
Here is my face at 4 months on T :
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.tumblr.com%2F33db736d0d3b7bf26054af3ed38d5948%2Ftumblr_inline_mrbo1dbFxp1rfpmcn.jpg&hash=b64ca99134ca928ff7693bc9fbd6bb5260cb0529)
Atm i'm on T for 5 months. I will post updates soon :)
Hope now i can pass :D
feel free to tell me your opinion.
Btw i'm 21 years old guy from Hungary.
My top surgery was 2 months ago. So everything is pretty fine for me atm. Good luck for everyone too :)
Quote from: donniedarko on August 24, 2013, 07:57:49 AM
Hey guys!
this is my second entry on this forum.
Here is my face at 4 months on T :
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.tumblr.com%2F33db736d0d3b7bf26054af3ed38d5948%2Ftumblr_inline_mrbo1dbFxp1rfpmcn.jpg&hash=b64ca99134ca928ff7693bc9fbd6bb5260cb0529)
Atm i'm on T for 5 months. I will post updates soon :)
Hope now i can pass :D
feel free to tell me your opinion.
Btw i'm 21 years old guy from Hungary.
My top surgery was 2 months ago. So everything is pretty fine for me atm. Good luck for everyone too :)
Oh yes you do pass just fine, what a handsome man you are! Not into men, but I could go for you fella! :)
Quote from: Shantel on August 24, 2013, 09:13:26 AM
Oh yes you do pass just fine, what a handsome man you are! Not into men, but I could go for you fella! :)
I never say anything like this, but I second that. Are you sure you've not stolen a model's photo?
Quote from: AlexanderC on August 24, 2013, 10:34:43 AM
I never say anything like this, but I second that. Are you sure you've not stolen a model's photo?
Quote from: Shantel on August 24, 2013, 09:13:26 AM
Oh yes you do pass just fine, what a handsome man you are! Not into men, but I could go for you fella! :)
Thanks both of you guys! it's made me smile! :D
Now i'm on my computer so can post a few more picture. You will see that i'm not as good as you thinks for first. :D
This two are from around 4 months
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkepfeltoltes.hu%2F130824%2F1165633912fot__1_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg&hash=9374f0032e160fe562391f189bde2db9c5e7900c)
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And this one from last week.
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Donnie,
I refuse to recant, you look fabulous!
I'm now about 8 months on T (though changes have been super slow) and i think 4 months post-op
pass? and how old do you guys think i look?
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg822.imageshack.us%2Fimg822%2F129%2Fubd3.jpg&hash=ca4879e02b7657f5ca1f954570b40fe4e1bafd9e)
I was traveling, so in this i hadn't worked out in like a month :(
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg7.imageshack.us%2Fimg7%2F7227%2Fyycj.jpg&hash=be2426058ae2ab54b858ccbdb319a1e6be6964bd)
donnie: well sh+t! you'd have me fooled XD you are a guy through and through.
ty.to.the.man: well you definitely don't look like a girl anymore XD, I think even if you tried you'd look like a guy still XD
Donnie, just.. wow. Especially that first pic got my eyes rolling over the floor. Seriously thought you were kidding and nicked some model's pic. You deffo look best in the 1st, but you are still handsome and a passing with flying colours for sure! :)
Ty, I agree. You fully pass to me, and look pretty good too! I'd guess you around 20 or something, but it would also depend strongly on your voice and presentation/behaviour. I once met a guy who looked like he was 17, but yet it was obvious he was much older cause his language, etc. But deffo looking good man.
just wondering if there's any chance that I pass
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1320.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu537%2Fdanjs3%2FIMG_0968_zps1459932a.jpg&hash=11a028d38a23a39e90d40a64277f1a3a4985b993) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/danjs3/media/IMG_0968_zps1459932a.jpg.html)
beefcake; thanks!
erik; that works for me cause I'm much younger than 20 lol thanks
danj@ you totally pass. honestly you're like the most adorable boy XD i don't know if that's what you were goin for or what but you do it well/
Quote from: Erik Ezrin on August 24, 2013, 03:48:15 PM
Donnie, just.. wow. Especially that first pic got my eyes rolling over the floor. Seriously thought you were kidding and nicked some model's pic. You deffo look best in the 1st, but you are still handsome and a passing with flying colours for sure! :)
Quote from: BeefxCake on August 24, 2013, 02:16:14 PM
donnie: well sh+t! you'd have me fooled XD you are a guy through and through.
Quote from: Shantel on August 24, 2013, 11:02:06 AM
Donnie,
I refuse to recant, you look fabulous!
Thanks for the really kind words! Made my day :)
Dansj, indeed looking like a very nice and sweet guy. Definitely passing in my eyes ;)
Hey guys,
So I think I pass really well even if it is for a teen aged boy (I'm 23) I feel like I like my shoulders in this pic even though I hate being shirtless. I know as soon as I get top surgery I will be walking around shirtless for ever.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.tinypic.com%2F11m6nmt.jpg&hash=07fc064d9c068e21bf7a4f883c90a185527c6c49)
Also the second pic
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I like because my facial hair grew in really good. Except on the other side it's more patchy. I've been growing facial hair for years though it wasn't much at first. My T levels are in a normal range though for a pret-t transexual man so maybe I'm just lucky? I also know about PCOS but I haven't been diagnosed with that either.
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This pic just because I look all sexy out on the frozen lake.
Thatboyfresh, you're pre-T!? Whoah! Nice man! You pass with flying colours! Though not as 23 yrs old. I'd guess at 17/18/19 years, depending on voice, etc.
Quote from: Erik Ezrin on August 26, 2013, 01:28:34 PM
Thatboyfresh, you're pre-T!? Whoah! Nice man! You pass with flying colours! Though not as 23 yrs old. I'd guess at 17/18/19 years, depending on voice, etc.
Thank you yo!
I usually get that. I am lucky to pass really well. Even when I go to clubs ( my IDs are all original birth ) and still get lumped with the men ( having to pay extra cover) My voice is neither high nor deep. I think it is more the way I talk , with confidence that makes people gender me as male even though my voice is not really in a male range. Or some people classify me as a gay male, which is still male so I don't really mind it.
First T shot today though!! Excited for what comes next
Quote from: thatboyfresh on August 25, 2013, 11:40:38 PM
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This pic just because I look all sexy out on the frozen lake.
Cool picture. Shame you didn't fall in >:-) (kidding)
Quote from: SaveMeJeebus on August 26, 2013, 04:15:27 PM
Cool picture. Shame you didn't fall in >:-) (kidding)
Lol it was a close call. A bunch of us were standing on one piece and it started to sink like the titanic. I was Rose well the rest of my friends were Jack :D
Quote from: thatboyfresh on August 26, 2013, 06:41:53 PM
Lol it was a close call. A bunch of us were standing on one piece and it started to sink like the titanic. I was Rose well the rest of my friends were Jack :D
:laugh:. I would have risked it as well... in the nude though. Kidding!
It was worth it anyway. It's a badass pic for sure! :)
Warning: Photo-spam ahead! First off, just a random picture of me:
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Hip pass with a tucked-in shirt? The pants are baggier than they look, camera doesn't pick that up very well with thick grey sweats apparently.
You guys think I can get away with not binding in this?
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Close-up:
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You totally pass dude, no worries. Absolute adorbs too =)
Only thing to watch is light + that grey/white top. If it isn't totally opaque, in bright light it may allow folks to kinda see through it a little and give you away which would be embarrassing. Sometimes best to have darker shirts if you're not going to bind.
DirtyFox- Thanks!
Jack- I think I was binding in that shirt, it's not entirely opaque but I was only wearing it as an undershirt anyway. Just curious as to how my hip shape holds up when I tuck in a cotton shirt that actually fits, happened to have it on under a jersey so I figured why not give it a try XD Thanks for the feedback!
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on August 28, 2013, 12:02:11 AM
DirtyFox- Thanks!
Jack- I think I was binding in that shirt, it's not entirely opaque but I was only wearing it as an undershirt anyway. Just curious as to how my hip shape holds up when I tuck in a cotton shirt that actually fits, happened to have it on under a jersey so I figured why not give it a try XD Thanks for the feedback!
Your hips are fine. Take it from a bad hip dude, I'd kill for those hips! :P
I felt really masculine today so I decided to take some pics and post them. As of right now I'm only passing a bit on sight and as soon as I open my mouth it's a big fat no. If I remember to I can normally keep my voice at a monotone level and that seems to help, but I'm very talkative and it's hard to talk fast in a monotone. But um so yeah how do I look?
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Ah just ignore my face in the second one, I was making some sort of dopey frown thing.
Jace, looking good! Like your clothes in that pic too (I'd never wear so much white myself though. I'd be bound to stain it in the first min of wearing! LOL :D)
And I totally feel you on the speaking thing. I mostly -if not always- pass on a distance, and often (but far from always) pass close-by too, but as soon as I open my mouth *BAM!* no way I'll pass. There were even some people saying something like "Hey young man" and I just replied with a calm "Yes?" Not giving them the impression in ANY way I disagreed with their choice of gender, but still they corrected with "Ohh, I'm sorry miss!" or something like that. Urghhh!
And I always talk a lot too, lol! My voice goes all over the place...! I'm guyish in mostly everything I do, except talking, lol. I'm sure I must sound insanely girly :s
I'm not sure how I didn't get any stains, most of my shirts are a mess. I do a lot of ceramics and painting and it's awful, especially ceramics. Clay dust gets everywhere.
But yeah I've been passing more and more lately, but only at first. People always correct themselves. I was walking through the halls the other day and a teacher was like "Excuse me sir,?" and I turned around and replied "Yeah?" she had a momentarily look of confusion before she managed to ask "Where are you going, miss?". If only my voice was as androgynous as my body. Letting my hair grow out some also really helped with passing because just a few months ago I wasn't even passing at a glimpse. I had the sides very short and it just made my face look more feminine. Made my already luscious lips stand out even more.
Hey, So my clothes (and hat :p) are probably hindering my passing here but the thing is I'm having a dilemma between passing above all or wearing what I like and feel confident in and maybe not passing as well. I've noticed I pass better when confident too. So what do you guys think, could I pull this of?
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Quote from: NathanielM on August 30, 2013, 04:24:07 AM
Hey, So my clothes (and hat :p) are probably hindering my passing here but the thing is I'm having a dilemma between passing above all or wearing what I like and feel confident in and maybe not passing as well. I've noticed I pass better when confident too. So what do you guys think, could I pull this of?
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you pass to me.
^
Nathaniel, I think you pass too! And I think the clothes look pretty good on you too (love the hat :P). Besides that; confidence is key! When I wear clothes I love I seem to pass better, even when they might not be optimal, just because I stand there with confidence and feel strong, etc.
People will notice it when you are insecure or doubtful, which causes them to take a closer look, if you're confident and presenting as male, a lot of people assume you ARE male
Of course talking might be another hurdle... my face and body are really androgynous, for example, but when I heard my own voice for the first time I thought I was listening to a some sexy chick, lol! I'm okay with a sexy-chick-voice when the bearer of it actually IS a sexy chick, but I'd rather have a badass man voice... :/
Quote from: NathanielM on August 30, 2013, 04:24:07 AM
Hey, So my clothes (and hat :p) are probably hindering my passing here but the thing is I'm having a dilemma between passing above all or wearing what I like and feel confident in and maybe not passing as well. I've noticed I pass better when confident too. So what do you guys think, could I pull this of?
its just the shoes that throw the look off to me, other then that I think you pass.
Quote from: donniedarko on August 24, 2013, 07:57:49 AM
Hey guys!
this is my second entry on this forum.
Here is my face at 4 months on T :
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Atm i'm on T for 5 months. I will post updates soon :)
Hope now i can pass :D
feel free to tell me your opinion.
Btw i'm 21 years old guy from Hungary.
My top surgery was 2 months ago. So everything is pretty fine for me atm. Good luck for everyone too :)
You'd easily pass by my standards.
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its just the shoes that throw the look off to me, other then that I think you pass.
I agree. The shoes are the only part of your outfit that remotely look 'feminine'. But if it are your 'confidence shoes' I'd just keep them on anyway ;)
If not, I'd wear other ones, or maybe don't tuck in your trousers?
Quote from: Erik Ezrin on August 31, 2013, 02:22:35 AM
I agree. The shoes are the only part of your outfit that remotely look 'feminine'. But if it are your 'confidence shoes' I'd just keep them on anyway ;)
If not, I'd wear other ones, or maybe don't tuck in your trousers?
They were the only thing I wore that was for girls, but I didn't actually have a choice. I don't own many shoes (most of them like that) and all of them are too feminine for my tastes, so I'll fix it.
About my voice, it's funny because it passes on the phone and when i pay close attention (when ordering something,...) but then I get talking and I get really expressive and... Goodbye voice. Also I seem to talk alot higher around my mum for some reason..
Yeah, same here. Apart from the passing on the phone thing. (but then again, most people calling KNOW my parents have a "daughter", and I'm an only child. So I just keep saying to myself they just think I'm a girl because I don't sound like my parents, and they KNOW the only other person aside them is a 'girl')
When I get excited about something I get pretty expressive, in voice and face, which makes it totally impossible to pass :< so yeah, it sucks...
Yep, total pass for you, Donnie! Lovin' that username btw.
Same for you, Nathan but yeah- be careful with those shoes.
Quote from: NathanielM on August 30, 2013, 04:24:07 AM
Hey, So my clothes (and hat :p) are probably hindering my passing here but the thing is I'm having a dilemma between passing above all or wearing what I like and feel confident in and maybe not passing as well. I've noticed I pass better when confident too. So what do you guys think, could I pull this of?
I think you look awesome - Suspenders are always a win. I agree with the comments about the shoes but by the same token, my cis guy friend wears bright silver heeled boots, so I think it's all about confidence.
Quote from: donniedarko on August 24, 2013, 10:58:57 AM
Thanks both of you guys! it's made me smile! :D
Now i'm on my computer so can post a few more picture. You will see that i'm not as good as you thinks for first. :D
This two are from around 4 months
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And this one from last week.
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you look handsome :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi9yJ515Ie8&feature=youtu.be
Hey guys this is a video i made a long time on my facebook to answer some people in my inbox was asking what a transgender mean ,i just wanna know if my voice pass and in general do i pass?be honest plz i'm ready to hear ur advices and sorry for my bad english and acent we speack french and arabic here ,thank you..
Jossef, your video is private so we can't see it. There should be an option where you can make your video "unlisted", so that only people with the link can see it.
Ok i fix it .. this is a video i made on my facebook to answer some people in my inbox was asking what a transgender mean ,i just wanna know if my voice pass and in general do i pass?be honest plz i'm ready to hear ur advices and sorry for my bad english and accent we speack french and arabic here ,thank you..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi9yJ515Ie8&feature=youtu.be
Quote from: jossef-ftm on September 04, 2013, 03:23:06 PM
Ok i fix it .. this is a video i made on my facebook to answer some people in my inbox was asking what a transgender mean ,i just wanna know if my voice pass and in general do i pass?be honest plz i'm ready to hear ur advices and sorry for my bad english and accent we speack french and arabic here ,thank you..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi9yJ515Ie8&feature=youtu.be
I watched it Jossef and to be honest you look and sound like any nice young man to me. I can't fine anything to critique you on really!
So glad to hear that,thank you shantel.
You guys pass so well it hurts x.x naw but congratz though :)
I'm pre everything, took this a few months back but never got the courage to post >.> my brother thinks with the help of T and some muscles I could pass, what do you guys think?
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Quote from: Des on September 04, 2013, 04:27:37 PM
You guys pass so well it hurts x.x naw but congratz though :)
I'm pre everything, took this a few months back but never got the courage to post >.> my brother thinks with the help of T and some muscles I could pass, what do you guys think?
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I think your brother is right. Not too shabby as a starting point either, man. You look pretty andro to me like that.
Thanks ^^ I do think I have quite a feminine face :(, but apparently if taking T shifts the fat from my face and stuff it'll show my jaw line, which according to some people is quite angular, so that's good I think. Andro huh, I hope that's a good thing XD better than being seen as female I suppose :D
Des@ I'm hoping if/when i start T my face will show some angles. i have such a square face but the biggest cheeks D:
So, its been a while since I've posted here and I was wondering, 43 weeks on t tomorrow, how to do guys think I look? I see some change, but not much. Would I pass to you by face alone? (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2F14xhy7c.jpg&hash=03a6eff6b7270ac326fb4e4515176ecd57cb72dc)
Elio, you can't post photos from your email, they have to be on a site that is public, like photobucket or similar photo hosting websites
oops. didnt know that. thanks for the heads up
Quote from: Kyle_S on September 06, 2013, 06:09:29 PM
So, its been a while since I've posted here and I was wondering, 43 weeks on t tomorrow, how to do guys think I look?
You look good Kyle; actually exactly like my cousin when he was about 18... I dunno how old you are, but you pass for around that age.
Hi. I just joined these forums.. Don't think I pass now. I suppose I'll [probably] look better when I lose some weight, which I am in the process of doing, so the massive boobage shrinks some. I just look butch now. u_u
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Derp, drawing a bow indoors.
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Thanks guys =] think I feel a bit more confident in that area now
NyxNine I think you totally pass, personally I would think you are male if I walked passed you :)
How do you post a picture?
Quote from: Brandon on September 07, 2013, 01:38:32 PM
How do you post a picture?
Find a website like photobucket and upload one from your computer. then you take the "html" code and copy and paste it in here.
Don't grab the html code, grab the IMG code. Either that or if you do grab the html code, when posting the pic you should click on the photo icon (under bold) and place the html between the brackets [img]website link to pic goes here[/img]
If you just grab the IMG code from the offset, it saves all that trouble and makes it a simple copy and paste job.
I think all three of you pass!
I know the problem called "a feminine face", lol. My face is so soft and round it either belongs on 1) a girl 2) a fat guy 3) a baby
:s
But since the rest of my appearance and presentation is really masculine I pass on looks most of the time (people always give me second glances in women's toilets too. Makes me feel even more awkward, but it also pushes me not to be afraid in the men's. I'm sure I won't even get a second glance there!) but still not when speaking.
@ Des, great start! :D
@ Kyle, I think you totally pass. Maybe your face alone looks a bit young, but I got a cisguy in my class who looks almost EXACTLY like you (you're sure you aren't him, lol? XD)
@ NyxNine, I think you pass too, though maybe darkening your eyebrows a little will help even more. And bows are awesome, just saying. :P
Thank you guys for the kind comments! :) :)
hey guys, so this is my new profile picture on facebook for my stealth account.
I just wanted to make sure everything in it works. aka; face/body/chest pass?
I'm really worried/self-concious about my nips
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Ty, you look great, you don't need to worry about a thing.
Quote from: ty.to.the.man on September 08, 2013, 10:10:16 AM
hey guys, so this is my new profile picture on facebook for my stealth account.
I just wanted to make sure everything in it works. aka; face/body/chest pass?
I'm really worried/self-concious about my nips
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picture's kinda dark but you look like a pretty hot guy to me.
Nick you pass to me! :)
Ty: Passing like a champ as per. Don't worry about your nips, take a gander around you (as discretely as poss) next time you're at the beach or swimming - nip size does vary quite a bit for dudes. Not that yours are in any way off anyway, they look totally fine and normal, but it's just to emphasise that size isn't as big a give-away as you might be worrying about.
Nick: Total pass. Glad to hear of your awesome results thus far :). It's fun when you have to start shaving, eh? Been 2 days since I needed to shave and I need to watch it because I love touching my face to feel it but I have oilier skin right now and that's going to just cause spots!!! Lol.
Thanks Jack! yeah I use the excuse of genetics cause my brother and father have slightly larger nips, i just get self conscious about things very easily lol
I guess the easy response to that is in these days of Photoshop and fashion/body ideals,who the heck doesn't? Lol.
and im bored taking selfies in a wifebeater :P omg i look like a douche
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I am pre everything. im not binding heck i just stumbled out of the shower and figured i'd take some pictures XD also i've been working out since january on no T and no special diets or anything and my arms are finally showing it XD
Quote from: BeefxCake on September 09, 2013, 01:56:25 AM
and im bored taking selfies in a wifebeater :P omg i look like a douche
I am pre everything. im not binding heck i just stumbled out of the shower and figured i'd take some pictures XD also i've been working out since january on no T and no special diets or anything and my arms are finally showing it XD
No you don't look like a douche, you actually look like a nice young man and look fit and as if you don't really need binding anyway, so the workouts are working!
???I am two weeks away from; t: and no surgery yet but, really do I pass? my profile pic is my only one, come on, I pass right? I am sick of being ma,am ed you know?
Quote from: Brody Brown on September 10, 2013, 03:08:10 PM
???I am two weeks away from; t: and no surgery yet but, really do I pass? my profile pic is my only one, come on, I pass right? I am sick of being ma,am ed you know?
Sorta hard to tell with your hands in front of your face. Maybe? I wouldn't say you don't pass just based off that picture.
Do I PASS? :icon_chew:
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Definitely not the best tee for you in 2nd pic but I spent a good time looking at the first pic wondering why it wasn't working so well for you and I think the conclusion I came to was the tattoos aren't working in your favour. I think you could pass for a younger boy but at that age you couldn't have those tattoos and people will then jump to ma'am, especially if your voice doesn't have that male resonance. Once you're on T for a good while and have surgery, it should change but just be wary that it may take a while to look closer to your age and cause some confusion or at least a lot of comments about how young you look. I'm 28 and recently dealt with a lot of, "Looking forward to going back to school?" questions!
Quote from: Brody Brown on September 10, 2013, 05:47:27 PM
Do I PASS? :icon_chew:
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I think you look like someone I would be in a relationship with. So damn handsome. ;)
Quote from: BeefxCake on September 09, 2013, 01:56:25 AM
and im bored taking selfies in a wifebeater :P omg i look like a douche
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I am pre everything. im not binding heck i just stumbled out of the shower and figured i'd take some pictures XD also i've been working out since january on no T and no special diets or anything and my arms are finally showing it XD
damn, tell me your diet for working out bro. I've been doing the same for the past 2 months and i have grown some muscle but not that much YET. I'm getting ready for when I take T.
Exus: i just lift a lot. High weight less reps. If you can do more than 8 up the weight of your dumbells or machine. I do arm workouts about 2-3 times a week i dont isolate just one muscle i go for biceps triceps shoulder and back and exercise those a few sets really only till i start to lose form. About 3-4 sets of 8-10 for all arm exercises
Also eat more. If your looking to lose fat and gain muscle you still have to eat more for building muscle but do cardio to burn fat. I tried eating less and gaining muscle but it wasnt getting me anywhere, the body cant use fat energy to build muscle. It needs calorie intake to build.
Hope that helps :3 i also threw p90x in there atound febuary but i dont do it anymore.
A little...nervous to post this..but here goes nothing. Just cut my hair. (https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/v/1371626_567443432719_1942833904_n.jpg?oh=dc645e781a3d46c4486cad139d31c924&oe=523509A7)
My friend said that when I dress like a girl I might get considered a MTF. Not sure if that is true, but oh well. I had to get something that my SO wouldn't freak out about. Plus they styled it girly, maybe I can style it boyish.
I think your face passes great, you have very masculine features but I agree with Nick that it's the hair that lets you down a bit. However, that being said, it does have the potential to be pulled off as a rock kind of cut and look masculine. It reminds me a bit of Trace Cyrus and Mason Musso. It can go either way, but there's a lot of potential with it :)
You do kinda look like an early in transition MTF, Darkie. It would depend entirely on your voice imo. The hair is a little feminizing, but if you had a deep enough voice I think you could pass as a young man.
My mom said in some pictures you can tell I'm a girl. Is that true?
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I've decided to show a few. Sorry.
I'd put the 2nd pic as a slight maybe, and maybe 4th for hips/thighs, but only if one knew to look for it if you know what I mean. It can be hard for parents to really tell though. Regardless of how they accept you now, they're always going to see a little of the old you. Even friends who've known you all your life will be the same. But for someone who didn't know you pre-T I can't see them seeing a thing feminine!
And I'd maybe stress to your mum to use female/feminine over girl. You're obviously not a girl; merely born female.
I think your mum is just holding on to the past. As Jack said, in the 4th you can kinda see that you have bigger hips and whatnot...perhaps without seeing your face you could be gendered female...but with that face and that facial hair, it's all male. Anyone who thought you were a girl at this point would be very ignorant.
whats needed for me to be more manly in yours guys eyes?>? good comments please. >:-)
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Darrin, were you the one who had gendering issues, even with all that facial hair? If so, I still don't understand how that could happen. The only picture in which I might see some 'girl' is the second one, but that is probably because you're so clean shaven. If I wasn't biased, as in, if I had no clue that your gender was being questioned, then I would definately just gender you male.
And yeah, the hips in the fourth picture don't help, but they are not overly obvious. They do match your overall appearance.
Brody, I have no advice for you. You look like a dude to me. But then again, you do manage to cover up a lot of parts, such as your eyes and hair, so it is very hard to judge.
I have been 17 weeks on T now, and I am sure I still do not pass. At least not voice wise. But what about my face 'n such? I need honest opinions, so I made a short video today and was wondering what you guys think. Also, I am a very shy person, so I'll likely remove the video in a couple of days. Do note that English is not my first language, so if I use some words wrongly then I be vewwi, vewwi sowwi.
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Quote from: Brody Brown on September 14, 2013, 07:58:50 AM
whats needed for me to be more manly in yours guys eyes?>? good comments please. >:-)
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Alright I will throw out a few things I notice
Your glasses seem to emphasize or make your chin seem more narrow and feminine. Maybe try a smaller pair.
Your hat throws me off a bit too. It also seems a bit too big which makes your face smaller / more feminine.
Your piercing I think is a bit femininizing - i know i know, plenty of guys have them but I think it is feminine and until you pass 100 percent it might be wise to keep jewelry to a minimum
I think your necklace is also feminizing and your shirt is too big.
I think i can sum up by saying "too many and too big accesories"
Geez, I know that seems super critical, but I want to set you straight rather than blow smoke.
One major positive i will point out is that your overall facial shape and features are manly in my opinion. So show it off some more instead of covering it with hats and glasses and jewelry.
Quote from: chuck on September 14, 2013, 10:13:37 AM
Geez, I know that seems super critical, but I want to set you straight rather than blow smoke.
One major positive i will point out is that your overall facial shape and features are manly in my opinion. So show it off some more instead of covering it with hats and glasses and jewelry.
+1 Good point, count me with the Chuckster, looking mostly really good though Brody!
Quote from: Shantel on September 14, 2013, 11:24:43 AM
+1 Good point, count me with the Chuckster, looking mostly really good though Brody!
thank you i will take that to the bank. much much love. :-*
im sorry for posting so many times im just very insecure about evolving into my true self. please be nice. do i pass? :icon_question:
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Mr. X I think you pass pretty darn well. Your voice may not be very low but it does have a bit of male resonance to it, I'm 3 months on T injections and my voice has drastically shifted so you might not be far away!
I'd say full on pass, but, like most of us, you look young. I'd say maybe 15/16 taking into account youthful features and voice. When your voice deepens a bit more, maybe a bit older but I think looking young is a curse turned benefit as we age anyway. I'll probably embrace the youthful looks more when I have actual male ID. Right now I HATE looking young because it means always having to show ID and it's still in the dreaded F! Haha!
I agree with Chuck with regards to what might work better for you Brody.
Quote from: caleb. on September 13, 2013, 10:07:12 PM
I think your mum is just holding on to the past. As Jack said, in the 4th you can kinda see that you have bigger hips and whatnot...perhaps without seeing your face you could be gendered female...but with that face and that facial hair, it's all male. Anyone who thought you were a girl at this point would be very ignorant.
Thanks! and thanks all!
I think as fa as the hips go. I really don't have them. I just have severe love handles.
And to whoever thought I was being misgendered still. You have me confused with someone else. I pass 100% in real life.
Darrin, you got some enviable facial hair going on!
Still waiting for some facial hair myself...
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Instead, I got acne that got some boost when I quit smoking. So, believe it when they say that smoking holds T's effects back. It really does.
Listening to G-Dragon, if someone's interested. |D
Quote from: Tossu-sama on September 14, 2013, 04:46:42 PM
Listening to G-Dragon, if someone's interested. |D
I bet in a couple of hours from right now you will be watching Shingeki no Kyojin given your avatar. Can't wait - usually comes out this time on Saturday afternoons.
You pass to me.
Quote from: spacerace on September 14, 2013, 04:57:55 PM
I bet in a couple of hours from right now you will be watching Shingeki no Kyojin given your avatar. Can't wait - usually comes out this time on Saturday afternoons.
Indeed I will. :D Should be only about an hour or so now... That's past 2am here. :B
Thanks for the replies, Jack and Emily!
I will definately try the chewing gum thing. It can't hurt. I am also still waiting for any fat to redistribute, so in time my face might look less fat. It could also be the testosterone making it a chubby, so I'm hoping it'll go down in time. Thanks for the tip, though.
My voice has lowered a lot, but I'm glad it is already at the border of passing. I thought it wasn't even close. So thanks for the feedback!
And yeah, I figured I look young, especially due to my height. Surprisingly, I don't get carded very often. A long time ago I had to buy a bottle of strong booze, and was ready to get my driver's license out, but the guy behind the counter said it wasn't needed. I was curious, so I asked him why not. He said it was the way I carried myself. So I think I'll be doing okay in that department.
Mr. X
If I saw you and heard you on the street. I wouldn't think anything other than you are a 17 year old guy. Pass 100% for me.
i found this picture today of me as a kid, did i pass?
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Last pic i took i was just comeback from work, i think i pass, do i? any advices guys? (still no T)
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Quote from: jossef-ftm on September 16, 2013, 12:04:04 PM
Last pic i took i was just comeback from work, i think i pass, do i? any advices guys? (still no T)
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If I were to see you on the street I wouldn't give you a second thought as 100% male.
Quote from: -Emily- on September 17, 2013, 03:44:28 AM
You do pass to me. Wanna change that shirt for something less pinkish ;) and unbutton it a little bit?
I have to say please don't stop wearing pink. I think it suits you and doesn't take away from your masculinity at all. I do agree with the unbuttoning though.
Quote from: -Emily- on September 17, 2013, 03:49:36 AM
Now, really... pink shirt and green sneakers... Come on :P
/me runs away
Never looked at the shoes, yes, wear different color shoes if you're wearing the pink shirt if you want to be more fashionable.
Settle down there sports... Different country, different culture and rockin' the style in my opinion
Lookin' good there Jossef
Hugs
THank you for the replies guys .
Emily: it's my style ;)
Quote from: jossef-ftm on September 17, 2013, 05:17:23 AM
THank you for the replies guys .
Emily: it's my style ;)
I'm all for having your own style. Even (maybe even especially) if it goes against what someone tells you is not in style. I was simply saying IF you wanted to be more fashionable to the fashion gods (whoever they are) there are rules to follow. I don't think you should follow any rules except your own.
This is the displayed name that people will see : yeah i know what you mean but no i'm not a follower i like my own style and i'm comfortable in it.
Quote from: jossef-ftm on September 17, 2013, 05:52:40 AM
This is the displayed name that people will see : yeah i know what you mean but no i'm not a follower i like my own style and i'm comfortable in it.
great!
Quote from: jossef-ftm on September 17, 2013, 05:52:40 AM
This is the displayed name that people will see : yeah i know what you mean but no i'm not a follower i like my own style and i'm comfortable in it.
Good for you Jossef! Hey you guys cut Jossef some slack, he's a guy and guys wear whatever they want and aren't into style, after all this is predominantly a FtM forum!
Quote from: Shantel on September 17, 2013, 08:35:11 AM
Good for you Jossef! Hey you guys cut Jossef some slack, he's a guy and guys wear whatever they want and aren't into style, after all this is predominantly a FtM forum!
If you're talking about me, I said it was great that he wore what he wants and I don't think he should try to conform to any specific style but his own. Not sure if it came across as different....
Quote from: Shantel on September 17, 2013, 08:35:11 AM
after all this is predominantly a FtM forum!
True! But it was quite refreshing to have a short raid around here :)
Jossef, you've found a GREAT polo there, look how it makes you look nice and big! Score!
My only advice would be to maybe undo that top button. That way it looks like you're too big to comfortably button that top button. That shirt does wonders for giving you a good physique, let it work for you a little more! ;) Buttoning it gives you a smaller looking neck.
When it comes to colour, don't sweat it! You can absolutely pull it off. Guys do wear pink, it's more just something for people who're not passing so well to maybe avoid, like long hair. It can make it harder to pass if people are on the fence about whether you're a guy or girl, but you simply look like a guy wearing a pink polo. If you like it; rock it!
Hey dude.
I always try to match my kicks with my shirt or at least my hat if I can't match the shirt! I'd be wearing the same thing but, I never do up more then the first button on polos. For me It kind of bunches the fabric in a weird way. Pink is for anyone who can pull it off. Trust me when I say I've seen some woman who can not pull off pink! lol
well, im bored again. thought i would show you guys what i look like on a normal day. i don't try to pass, im too obviously female, but i do try and make myself look more masculine. i guess i dunno what this shirt does i just like the colors. :P i've been sirred all but once in public. and iw asn't even trying to pass so that was pretty cool.
also i got a pretty bada$$ jacket int he mail. problem is though, now that i have been doing a lot of arm workouts, the sleeves are completely too small :P which is like yay my arms are bigger but at the same time i kinda wanted to wear my jacket. :P
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Quote from: BeefxCake on September 18, 2013, 06:22:29 PM
well, im bored again. thought i would show you guys what i look like on a normal day. i don't try to pass, im too obviously female, but i do try and make myself look more masculine. i guess i dunno what this shirt does i just like the colors. :P i've been sirred all but once in public. and iw asn't even trying to pass so that was pretty cool.
also i got a pretty bada$$ jacket int he mail. problem is though, now that i have been doing a lot of arm workouts, the sleeves are completely too small :P which is like yay my arms are bigger but at the same time i kinda wanted to wear my jacket. :P
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You look male to me, unfortunately you could also pass as prepubescent. Hope that isn't offensive, I'm just trying to be honest.
im not offended, im not especially trying to pass, i've only just come out and own no mens clothes actually. :P im not on t i don't have a binder so this is all square one. and hell if i look male-ish now just as i am then cool. later on, int he next fw months ill be trying to get more mens clothes in my stuff.
i feel super lucky that im 5'10" and scandanavian stocky as hell cuz i fit into mens clothes like a glove. XD mens small is often too small so i can get away with a medium at least. also my feet are just on the threshhold of being able to getinto mens shoes, im a mens 7. so hopefully shopping won't be too bad :P
got a new "nerdy-ish" haircut so i figured id take a pic with my glasses. i rarely wear them cause im not a huge fan of glasses and not sure how well i pass with them. thoughts? (sorry guys, i know i just posted)
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Tyler, I feel the same way about my glasses (which look a heck of a lot like yours!). I think you rock that look.
Beefcake, looking good. 5'10" is pretty sweet, jealous!
It's been a little while, so here's a pre-T, then ~5 months on T pic, wearing the same sweatshirt, lol.
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Then in solidarity with Tytotheman, a nerd pic (pardon poofy hair!)
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Beef: you look young, but look good
Ty: you always pass and I think the glasses you great. You look older with glasses, which is good.
Ford: you have changed so much in just a few months, you look amazing!
:)
ford: holy s**t you changed so much, you passed fine in your first pick but damn, now it's like. OTL i'll be on T in roughly a year... just a little longer ::)
Quote from: ford on September 18, 2013, 09:59:19 PM
Tyler, I feel the same way about my glasses (which look a heck of a lot like yours!). I think you rock that look.
Beefcake, looking good. 5'10" is pretty sweet, jealous!
It's been a little while, so here's a pre-T, then ~5 months on T pic, wearing the same sweatshirt, lol.
YTMND.
Hey there all! 'Bout to celebrate my one year T-nniversary (October 10th woot!). I've been battling sickness and allergies, and throwing up and everything for the past week, but I thought I looked pretty awesome today. My most recent change? Getting more chest hair (c'mon pelt! c'mon pelt!), and facial hair is finally starting to become a goatee (that's right little hairs, keep on going!).
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Quote from: Anonymous User on September 18, 2013, 11:20:02 PM
YTMND.
I had to google that. Hehe.
Sal, you do indeed look awesome. And I must say, that is quite the shirt!
Quote from: ford on September 19, 2013, 04:52:18 PM
I had to google that. Hehe.
Sal, you do indeed look awesome. And I must say, that is quite the shirt!
Thanks, Ford. :) I was all matchy today. That shirt, black pants, red undershirt, and red converse, but I don't have a full length mirror to show that. ;)
Hey guys. I apparently pass at least some of the time which usually surprises me. I'm pre-t so I really don't expect to pass. So yeah, wondering what you all think.
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Asa, I think you are quite handsome!
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Asa: you look male to me, initial reaction. A little femme perhaps, but good looking ;D
Femboy:
Quote from: Femboy on September 19, 2013, 08:41:50 PM
Hey friends! Hoping to be read as a feminine queer boy (who was male-assigned-at-birth). How are you reading me now? :)
Yeah that's how I'm reading you. You look like a cismale to me especially in that last photo...I kind of dig your look, honestly.
Darkie: Male. The only thing I would say, and this is little and random: I can see vellus hairs on your cheeks...that fuzz. For some reason I feel like if you shaved, you'd be very convincing. Although if I remember your situation right that would be tough with your SO keeping an eye on you...?
My problem is Ford that even though he probubly wouldn't mind as he doesn't like the fact my face has hair on it, as you can see I break out VERY easily. I never realized how many times while signing in ASL I would touch my face, so nothing will heal. I've always had oily skin.
Quote from: Darkie on September 19, 2013, 09:33:29 PM
My problem is Ford that even though he probubly wouldn't mind as he doesn't like the fact my face has hair on it, as you can see I break out VERY easily. I never realized how many times while signing in ASL I would touch my face, so nothing will heal. I've always had oily skin.
Yeah...acne is something I'm quite acquainted with, sigh.
Well, be that as it may, might I just say: you have some terrific eyebrows going on there.
Quote from: ford on September 19, 2013, 09:37:37 PM
Yeah...acne is something I'm quite acquainted with, sigh.
Well, be that as it may, might I just say: you have some terrific eyebrows going on there.
Haha, thanks. There's actually a story behind those.
When I was younger, I HATED them. I always whined that I got all the bad traits from my dad: Knock-kneed, asthma and my, as we call them, Male British Eyebrows. I wanted to try and fit in, look pretty like the other girls. So, in order to fit in, I would get them waxed. After a horrible waxing event though, they grew back bushier. Now I just make sure they don't become a unibrow, but don't thin them out. Husband doesn't like my thick brows but now, I wear them with pride.
hey guys! it's been 9 months since my last post. things have changed alot. just thought i'd upload a few new pics for everyone to see. :) and i know i pass, i'm legally male already and havent been misgendered in almost an entire year... but just posting an update.
january 2013 (3mnths on T)
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april 2013 (6mnths on T)
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smaller pic, but me in june 2013 (8mnths on T)
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me in august 2013 (10mnths on T)
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Quote from: Wil Najera on September 20, 2013, 01:59:25 AM
hey guys! it's been 9 months since my last post. things have changed alot. just thought i'd upload a few new pics for everyone to see. :) and i know i pass, i'm legally male already and havent been misgendered in almost an entire year... but just posting an update.
me in august 2013 (10mnths on T)
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Way to go Will, nice guns you're sporting on you young man. I can tell you've been pumping iron!
I start working out before 9 mounths and i gain some mucles and weight too and i think that make me look shorter,i'm 5.7 but when i start lefting i start gaining weight and i think it make me look short ,i dont wanna stop lefting and my goal is to have a really ripped strong body,so many friends in fb suggest me to stop but i dont really want i love lefting and exercicing what you guys think?do i start look fat :/
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Quote from: jossef-ftm on September 21, 2013, 04:34:13 AM
I start working out before 9 mounths and i gain some mucles and weight too and i think that make me look shorter,i'm 5.7 but when i start lefting i start gaining weight and i think it make me look short ,i dont wanna stop lefting and my goal is to have a really ripped strong body,so many friends in fb suggest me to stop but i dont really want i love lefting and exercicing what you guys think?do i start look fat :/
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I've said it before and so have many others, you're a good looking guy. I don't blame you for worrying about it, we are usually our own worst critics. You don't have much to worry about in terms of looking fat at all. You could easily add on even more weight and still look good.
Anonymous user:glad to hear i'm not looking fat i was worry about it thank you.
Quote from: Asa on September 19, 2013, 06:23:45 PM
Hey guys. I apparently pass at least some of the time which usually surprises me. I'm pre-t so I really don't expect to pass. So yeah, wondering what you all think.
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I'mmmm just gonna say that you are cute as heckie
I haven't seen anyone that doesn't pass and I'm new here but you're all fine as hell, in my opinion.
I only recently came out, so pre everything and I know I don't pass. but any tips would be wonderful.
I hae absolutely no clue how to add pictures, but this is my tumblr face pagewind-coloredchills.tumblr.com/tagged/me (http://wind-coloredchills.tumblr.com/tagged/me).
Nicotpe, I think you may be able to pass as a very young guy if you got different glasses. You have a very smooth and round face, which generally makes us look young. You look fairly boyish with the hat on. If stay away from the lipstick until you pass better, it highlights your lips a bit too much. I only looked through the first page, but do you have any pics with different glasses or with no glasses?
Oh yeah, I wouldn't be wearing the lipstick when trying to pass as a guy, haha. I've been identifying as genderqueer/genderfluid for awhile before realizing that I'm definitely only really comfortable identifying as masculine, so that's why. I actually looked for a pair of more guyish glasses, but most of them looked kind of strange on me and I didn't have much time, I have come to regret the decision now. Some of the pictures on the page before would probably be with my old glasses, which might be a bit better, but yeah.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2F2d9xoo4.jpg&hash=61c04355e7c2c0ffc7946351ea0cf85c35ad6ac6) That's without glasses, (and really weird hair) which I'm not a fan of and I think makes my face look rounder, but I've also worn glasses for years so I might just not be used to it. If it'd be easier to pass like that, I'll look into getting contacts, or if not, what kind of glasses would make a round face look less round?
Quote from: Nicotpe on September 23, 2013, 01:58:11 PM
Oh yeah, I wouldn't be wearing the lipstick when trying to pass as a guy, haha. I've been identifying as genderqueer/genderfluid for awhile before realizing that I'm definitely only really comfortable identifying as masculine, so that's why. I actually looked for a pair of more guyish glasses, but most of them looked kind of strange on me and I didn't have much time, I have come to regret the decision now. Some of the pictures on the page before would probably be with my old glasses, which might be a bit better, but yeah.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2F2d9xoo4.jpg&hash=61c04355e7c2c0ffc7946351ea0cf85c35ad6ac6) That's without glasses, (and really weird hair) which I'm not a fan of and I think makes my face look rounder, but I've also worn glasses for years so I might just not be used to it. If it'd be easier to pass like that, I'll look into getting contacts, or if not, what kind of glasses would make a round face look less round?
Probably those with rectangular lenses similar to those worn by Sarah Palen. I suspect that she does that to lengthen the appearance of her face and offset any puffy cheek look. I'd be willing to trade faces with you if that was possible! ;D
Me at prom 5 years ago. I really like this picture because I wore a suit and no one said jack about it! The girl in the picture wasn't my date the girl I went with wore an orange dress that matched my vest.
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Me a little more recent. I've lost weight since my high school years lol
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Quote from: thatboyfresh on September 24, 2013, 08:02:33 PM
Me at prom 5 years ago. I really like this picture because I wore a suit and no one said jack about it! The girl in the picture wasn't my date the girl I went with wore an orange dress that matched my vest.
Wow so cool, Fresh the smoother mover!
You pass Fresh, very handsome.
@Shantel haha i wish I was as good of a dancer as this picture makes me out to be.
@LearnedHand Thanks! It always is a booster to hear that especially from someone who "knows" I am trans
Hey, do you guys think I pass?
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Quote from: PirateKing on September 26, 2013, 12:47:14 AM
Hey, do you guys think I pass?
Your eyebrows seem a bit more shaped than a guy's would be. Other than that, nothing super feminine stands out from your face - your jawline and nose seem like they would help you pass, but really that angle makes it a bit difficult to tell.
You look like a guy to me :)
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I don't know if it shows here, but my hairline is definitely changed!
Quote from: androidnick on September 26, 2013, 06:59:52 PM
So, what do you guys think?
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I know I probably don't pass but oh well.
You look like a 16-18yo guy for me. Heck, I'm a guy and look less manly than you! So yeah, 100% passing. :)
Quote from: democration on September 27, 2013, 12:21:23 AM
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I don't know if it shows here, but my hairline is definitely changed!
Nice piercing. Definitely a guy.
Quote from: PirateKing on September 26, 2013, 12:47:14 AM
Hey, do you guys think I pass?
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You pass, as a 15 yo kid.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/599720_1388510058049389_1395643977_n.jpg) yaa do i look like a guy?? ;-;
Please be brutally honest with me, do i pass? I think I do, and my girlfriend thinks I do, but recently my coworkers have been questioning and I'm just hoping its just the way I act, cause at least that's easier to change.
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@mcrkillme You look like a young guy to me, early teens.
@Hunterm1990 You pass to me, though your face is kind of soft but I don't think that would give you away. It looks like you have some facial hair going on in the second photo. Sometimes it's hard to tell just in still photos, so it could just be the way you might act or facial expressions you might make during regular conversation. You also just showed yourself from the shoulders up, so it might be more of the lower body that could give you away. I don't know if you're on T or had any surgeries, so perhaps you need a better binder or maybe your clothes show off some curves.
@LearnedHand
I've been on T for three years and yeah I have a little facial hair but being a natural blonde ruined that for me lol. It probably is the binder cause I'm pushing 200lbs and my binders don't bind the way they used to. Btw anyone got any binders they wanna trade or give away I'd really appreciate it.
Honestly, do you think there's any hair styles that would make me pass better? I think the one I currently have makes me look like a lesbian.
Quote from: hunterm1990 on September 28, 2013, 09:24:46 PM
@LearnedHand
I've been on T for three years and yeah I have a little facial hair but being a natural blonde ruined that for me lol. It probably is the binder cause I'm pushing 200lbs and my binders don't bind the way they used to. Btw anyone got any binders they wanna trade or give away I'd really appreciate it.
I am giving one away here: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,147596.0.html
The hair is still noticeable despite being blonde. :)
Quote from: mcrkillme on September 27, 2013, 09:37:00 PM
yaa do i look like a guy?? ;-;
i can't really tell what you are from those pic, but unfortunately i know more girls than guys who wear that style, so i'd probably assume you to be a girl. but in today's world, i suppose there are more boys who look like that too. if you said you're a guy, i'd believe you at least. and think you're around 12-13 years old.
Quote from: hunterm1990 on September 28, 2013, 08:40:04 PM
Please be brutally honest with me, do i pass? I think I do, and my girlfriend thinks I do, but recently my coworkers have been questioning and I'm just hoping its just the way I act, cause at least that's easier to change.
your smile makes you look very soft. that combined with some mannerism might be the reason if people question you seriously. there's also a possibility that their questioning is more jokingly, as a reaction to you not acting typically male. some people will get nervous and not know how to respond when someone breaks gender norms even in more subtle ways.
Hunterm - I think you totally pass, i personally wouldn't question you if i saw you down the street :D
mcrkillme - with shorter hair you'd probably pass more, but atm you do just look like a young boy to me so it's not too bad :)
skinny18 - i think you pass as a young dude! :D are you pre?
hunterm1990...your face looks male to me but since you're saying your binders aren't working that well, maybe it's your body, I dunno. I'm guessing you're born in 1990 in which case you maybe look a bit young but not too much. (If you're actually 45 or something then that could be the issue haha.)
Des...you don't really pass for me right now, although I wouldn't notice your hairline, it's just sort of a general thing (you don't look young enough to be a prepubescent boy, I guess). I don't think you'd have any trouble passing on t though, you're pretty androgynous for no HRT.
Des, I actually think you could pass... To me anyways... It would really depend on mannerisms and the voice, but you kind of remind me of one of my younger friends who is 15. (At least I think he's 15, LOL)
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HERE WE GO. A picture finally of more than just the face. How's that chest passing? Stature? Tips, advice, etc?
Quote from: democration on September 30, 2013, 09:43:03 PM
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HERE WE GO. A picture finally of more than just the face. How's that chest passing? Stature? Tips, advice, etc?
Total pass guy, you look fit!
Do I pass for an 18-year-old? Pre-t.
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Quote from: Organous on October 01, 2013, 04:28:00 PM
Do I pass for an 18-year-old? Pre-t.
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Yes for the first and third (barely) picture, and no for the second and fourth (mostly because of Your haircut, to be honest, which gets amplified and shifted into female range by Your andro glasses). But You will get there :)
Pre-T, Pre-Op, just binding etc. >__>
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Quote from: Organous on October 01, 2013, 04:28:00 PM
Do I pass for an 18-year-old? Pre-t.
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Hmm, I actually think you do pass besides perhaps the third photo. In fact i think you already do look quite masculine!
i want a facial hair so bad,i draw it last night does it look fake ?!
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Quote from: Bardoux on October 02, 2013, 06:42:05 AM
Hmm, I actually think you do pass besides perhaps the third photo. In fact i think you already do look quite masculine!
Second this, I also think it's only the 3rd photo that doesn't quite pass. Which, unfortunately, means it may be the smile that's throwing it off.
And yes, Jossef, your fake stubble looks... fake. That huge hat also feminizes you by making your head look small in comparison, sorry bro. Most of the pics I've seen you post have passed better than this- I think you may be shooting yourself in the foot by trying too hard.
Quote from: democration on September 30, 2013, 09:43:03 PM
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HERE WE GO. A picture finally of more than just the face. How's that chest passing? Stature? Tips, advice, etc?
You pass absolutely. Looking good! Do you work out?
Quote from: Shantel on October 01, 2013, 08:43:57 AM
Total pass guy, you look fit!
Quote from: Jared on October 03, 2013, 04:56:04 PM
You pass absolutely. Looking good! Do you work out?
Thanks to you both! :-) I don't actually work out. I'm just a starving college student, lol.
Quote from: democration on September 30, 2013, 09:43:03 PM
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HERE WE GO. A picture finally of more than just the face. How's that chest passing? Stature? Tips, advice, etc?
Dayyum. Someone's cute (and totally passing)
Quote from: jossef-ftm on October 02, 2013, 08:48:43 AM
i want a facial hair so bad,i draw it last night does it look fake ?!
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Just a little bit. See where the apple of your cheek is. Guys don't have that razor straight line there. Check out some other pics of guys with the same style. And that line while straight in appearance is slightly curved. Otherwise the breaks in the pattern your drawn and even the few random bare spots are perfect for a young guy.
Totally cute though ;)
Quote from: KingKai on October 01, 2013, 07:28:06 PM
Pre-T, Pre-Op, just binding etc. >__>
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I think you'd be able to pass if you let your eyebrows grow in, you seem to have strong facial features which would help you, but the eyebrows are a little too manicured. Also, you might want to avoid V-neck shirts because the V naturally draws your eyes down.
Quote from: LearnedHand on October 05, 2013, 08:11:52 AM
I think you'd be able to pass if you let your eyebrows grow in, you seem to have strong facial features which would help you, but the eyebrows are a little too manicured. Also, you might want to avoid V-neck shirts because the V naturally draws your eyes down.
Duly noted! My eyebrows have always been meh. I used to go for the very Visual Kei - JRock look (I'm a pretty fem guy xD), but they're finally growing in a bit more masculine. And noted on the shirt. Thanks! ^^
i got my first pairs of jeans today and a sweater.
i think i look nice. im not really trying to pass per say but more an andro look, i don't think i could go full throttle man clothes all at once. baby steps.
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kind of the same picture sorry :P
I like the new clothes! Definitely more androgynous than male, but they fit you really well and you look well put together.
@jossef-ftm hard to tell, it does point off something fake, but other then that you good good overall.
@BeefxCake body shot is good i say pass for that.
@ KingKai pre-T you pass to me.
This is me pre-t
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about 6 months on T or more:
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Do i pass better or the same? Do i look any different from pre-t to now?
Quote from: rexyrex on October 07, 2013, 01:09:16 PM
Do i pass better or the same? Do i look any different from pre-t to now?
Well, for me You did pass pre-T as well - at least in the first and third picture (the second was a bit like on the borderline of passing/not really passing - but I cant explain why, perhaps it sent a bit of soft vibe..). As regards Your current pics - You passed in all of them and You have definitely... something like roughened up? I did not see any more softness in You :) Khaki trousers did suit You too, as well as that
"boringly" :) :) :) grey-blue sweater, but horizontal stripes will always broaden You up :). The only thingie... dont get this personal, but that bright azure-blue watch looks a bit silly for a guy (or it might be just me with my old out-of-date fashion taste ;) ).
That good to hear emily, i love the "roughened up". :laugh: As long i pass and look good is fine by me. I have noiced that i dont have the soft look anymore.
Quote from: rexyrex on October 07, 2013, 01:09:16 PM
Do i pass better or the same? Do i look any different from pre-t to now?
are you sure you're not trolling me?
i can hardly see anything feminine in your pre-t pics. looking even manlier in the post-t ones though.
the striped sweater is too big for you. looks like you got them from someone else's wardrobe.
rexyrex: you didn't change that much, you passed totally pre-T too. your face isn't that skinny as it was pre-T.
Can I pass with this haircut? Sometimes I feel like it makes me look like a lesbian :S
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Quote from: Jared on October 09, 2013, 03:50:07 PM
rexyrex: you didn't change that much, you passed totally pre-T too. your face isn't that skinny as it was pre-T.
Can I pass with this haircut? Sometimes I feel like it makes me look like a lesbian :S
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Absolutely, you look good Jared :)
Quote from: Jared on October 09, 2013, 03:50:07 PM
Can I pass with this haircut? Sometimes I feel like it makes me look like a lesbian :S
You're good. Your nose and jawline mean you pass, and I don't think the haircut is particularly lesbian-y, at least on you.
Can I delete a pic after posting it? Would like some opinions but might want to delete it later.
Quote from: Bardoux on October 09, 2013, 04:18:17 PM
Absolutely, you look good Jared :)
Thank you very much :)
Quote from: spacerace on October 09, 2013, 04:21:13 PM
You're good. Your nose and jawline mean you pass, and I don't think the haircut is particularly lesbian-y, at least on you.
Thanks man. I was worried cause last time I cut it that short I ended up looking like a lesbian, but that was 1 or 2 months on T(?)
Quote from: ashton on October 10, 2013, 12:05:38 PM
Can I delete a pic after posting it? Would like some opinions but might want to delete it later.
Yes. I'll delete mine too.
Taken yesterday. 2 weeks on T. Do I pass? How old do I look? I'm 22. Also ignore the hair lol just took my hat off
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You pass and you look at least 18 or 19 :)
Quote from: ashton on October 10, 2013, 05:09:23 PM
Taken yesterday. 2 weeks on T. Do I pass? How old do I look? I'm 22. Also ignore the hair lol just took my hat off
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Ashton, I would say hands down that you pass!!!
Thank you both! I usually get asked if I am 12 lol so wanted some opinions
Quote from: Wil Najera on September 20, 2013, 01:59:25 AM
hey guys! it's been 9 months since my last post. things have changed alot. just thought i'd upload a few new pics for everyone to see. :) and i know i pass, i'm legally male already and havent been misgendered in almost an entire year... but just posting an update.
january 2013 (3mnths on T)
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april 2013 (6mnths on T)
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smaller pic, but me in june 2013 (8mnths on T)
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me in august 2013 (10mnths on T)
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ur hot lol
I made sort of a timeline of pictures of me from 2005 to now. The very crappy one at the lower right is my body on a good day with clothes that fit. I just colored on my face because it looked rather silly. I feel like my face passes but my body shape doesn't. I am kind of fat at the moment.
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Quote from: gentle on October 19, 2013, 06:30:35 AM
I made sort of a timeline of pictures of me from 2005 to now. The very crappy one at the lower right is my body on a good day with clothes that fit. I just colored on my face because it looked rather silly. I feel like my face passes but my body shape doesn't. I am kind of fat at the moment.
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Are you on hormones?
It looks like I can see facial hair in the last two pictures.
I would also say you basically pass for a male your age in all of these pictures, though you could be read as a year or two younger in the last face pic. However, when you are even a cismale teenager, this is fairly common and not a big deal.
I would also say
I would like to know if do I pass with my new haircut. I like it, but I'm not sure, I don't know if I'm getting paranoid or it's true, but sometimes I think I do look just like a lesbian..
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I accept and appreciate advice, critics and all that kind of stuff. ;)
Quote from: Daniel-S on October 19, 2013, 11:15:08 PM
I would like to know if do I pass with my new haircut. I like it, but I'm not sure, I don't know if I'm getting paranoid or it's true, but sometimes I think I do look just like a lesbian..
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I accept and appreciate advice, critics and all that kind of stuff. ;)
You look 100 percent male to me.
Quote from: Daniel-S on October 19, 2013, 11:15:08 PM
I would like to know if do I pass with my new haircut. I like it, but I'm not sure, I don't know if I'm getting paranoid or it's true, but sometimes I think I do look just like a lesbian..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi42.tinypic.com%2F155s2hc.jpg&hash=075862354208c80fbbffc68153a084cac9d34aa2)
I accept and appreciate advice, critics and all that kind of stuff. ;)
You definitely pass!
I really like your haircut and your glasses are great!
Quote from: Daniel-S on October 19, 2013, 11:15:08 PM
I would like to know if do I pass with my new haircut. I like it, but I'm not sure, I don't know if I'm getting paranoid or it's true, but sometimes I think I do look just like a lesbian..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi42.tinypic.com%2F155s2hc.jpg&hash=075862354208c80fbbffc68153a084cac9d34aa2)
I accept and appreciate advice, critics and all that kind of stuff. ;)
You have a really nice jaw and brow ridge.
I would read you as male, albeit rather young.
Quote from: supremecatoverlord on October 19, 2013, 10:57:14 AM
Are you on hormones?
It looks like I can see facial hair in the last two pictures.
I would also say you basically pass for a male your age in all of these pictures, though you could be read as a year or two younger in the last face pic. However, when you are even a cismale teenager, this is fairly common and not a big deal.
I would also say
I wish I was on hormones! In the picture before the last, I had just used a mascara brush to make the little blonde peach fuzz hairs I do have stand out more. I got the idea from a website, which I can't remember. But the last picture I don't have any facial hair, no. I am glad to hear that I pretty much pass, but these pictures are all ones I consider "good". I am a fattish now and it makes my face much more round and pudgy, so I don't think I pass as well. I also have rather large breasts, which I hate, and I'm only 5'3".
Spacerace, to me you pass. In the last two photos you look 14, in the first you look a bit older, but I do think you pass. Keep in mind we cannot see your mannerisms and the way you present yourself.
Spacerace, unfortunately I have to disagree with the others. In the first picture you don't pass to me at all, but the second you do, and there seems something a little off in the last picture, but if had to gender you I'd put you as male. Bearing in mind that I'm more conscious of gendering people correctly now that I know there are people like us out there who are deliberately trying to present as a specific gender, and that the average person would probably just go for their first impressions and go for male.
I think better fitting clothes might help, although I know that's hard, but sometimes I feel that when we wear bigger clothes it makes it easier for people see us as butch women who can't be bothered to dress up. Mannerisms go a long way as well, and we can't see those. Honestly, they go a huge way, someone I recently met told me after I came out to her that although I'm pretending to be female, and she's been told that I am by my job, my mannerisms made her fairely sure that I was a trans man.
I also think that there might be a difference in how people from different countries look, because a few times I've noticed that American people look different to average British ones and that I would say they didn't pass when everyone else says that they do one hundred percent. I also know a butch woman who looks similar to you in hair and facial structure which throws me off too, so take what I say with a pinch of salt and wait for the T to do its stuff.
I originally took this for the badass thread, but since its my first post on here (hi) I will post it here.
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Feel free to be as honest as you want.
Hi Markus!
Welcome to Susans :) I'd say you pass with a big A+
I see you have some facial hair coming in. Been on T long? either way the results are great!
Quote from: Shaina on October 20, 2013, 11:10:45 PM
Hi Markus!
Welcome to Susans :) I'd say you pass with a big A+
I see you have some facial hair coming in. Been on T long? either way the results are great!
Thank you Shaina, I have been on T for about a year now, but not consistently.
Also may I say, assuming that is yourself in your picture, that you look stunning ;)
Quote from: Markus on October 20, 2013, 11:17:51 PM
Thank you Shaina, I have been on T for about a year now, but not consistently.
Also may I say, assuming that is yourself in your picture, that you look stunning ;)
Wow those are great results, especially if you've been on T off and on.
And why thank you handsome! ;)
Democration, looking good! You look young but defo male.
Oganous, you pass mostly, but I agree with what others have said about your smile picture not looking as male. It's an odd one but you do look like a young boy in the other photos.
KingKai, personally I find you difficult to tell. I think you have a more androgynous look. Without knowing your mannerisms or how you talk, I'd probably just be more careful and try not to use any pronouns around you to be honest. I think long V neck tees do tend to look more feminine though, even on cis guys with obvious facial hair I think it looks feminine.
Jossef, yeah the stubble looks fake and that hat does look too big. Even though it's a style to wear high, I'd watch out for wearing hats too big or too high as it can accentuate a smaller head. I struggle to find any caps that fit. I have to try on smalls to be sure they're small enough, or wear larger kids caps. We got swag for a film I worked on and I had to ask for one of the extra smalls...which were too small for some of the women!!! However, wearing a cap that fits is always better than a cap that's too big. People never realise I have a small head UNTIL they try my cap on and remark on how small it is. Up until they do that, because it fits in proportion to the size of me, they're none the wiser.
Gentle you pass really well in those pics!
Daniel - pass. You look young but I'd still say male for sure. You have a nice square jaw too!
Markus - pass for sure. However, depending on your age, I wouldn't go out and show off patchy hair growth. If you are actually quite young then ignore me but older guys wouldn't be proud of patchy growth.
Now I need advice!
Since I've been on T I've been working out loads. Dropped to 28 inch waist, back up to almost 31inch with muscle. Dropped 2 cup sizes...but beefed up my chest with muscle.
So now I'm just really, really, really self conscious about my chest. I only started working out harder in the chest area because I know I'll get surgery within the next couple of months but right now, even though cup size is smaller, I feel like having anything along with that muscle growth is giving me away.
And so we come to a a couple of sweaters my surrogate Vancouver father bought me. I do like them but they're V neck and while him and his mates (not all of whom know I'm trans) think it makes me look buff, I'm not entirely convinced and looking for feedback. Does it makes me look good, or does it make me look female? All I see is female but I know I'm my worst critic! Please be 100% honest. (Ignore the questioning look, my camera made a weird sound before it took the timed photo).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg577.imageshack.us%2Fimg577%2F4747%2Fp3k4.jpg&hash=26730a3e3b5296c824c40b073c990f1db34482c1)
Right now I've been hiding in hoodies a lot but I'm worried with having started a new job that if I keep doing that, I'm actually a bit of a banana republic type guy normally (yeah, maybe it's lame but I prefer a more dressed up look personally). I don't want to get surgery and then draw further attention to it by completely changing style! Lol. If anyone has any advice based on that though, please fire away!
Quote from: Jack_M on October 21, 2013, 01:10:10 AM
Now I need advice!
Since I've been on T I've been working out loads. Dropped to 28 inch waist, back up to almost 31inch with muscle. Dropped 2 cup sizes...but beefed up my chest with muscle.
So now I'm just really, really, really self conscious about my chest. I only started working out harder in the chest area because I know I'll get surgery within the next couple of months but right now, even though cup size is smaller, I feel like having anything along with that muscle growth is giving me away.
And so we come to a a couple of sweaters my surrogate Vancouver father bought me. I do like them but they're V neck and while him and his mates (not all of whom know I'm trans) think it makes me look buff, I'm not entirely convinced and looking for feedback. Does it makes me look good, or does it make me look female? All I see is female but I know I'm my worst critic! Please be 100% honest. (Ignore the questioning look, my camera made a weird sound before it took the timed photo).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg577.imageshack.us%2Fimg577%2F4747%2Fp3k4.jpg&hash=26730a3e3b5296c824c40b073c990f1db34482c1)
Right now I've been hiding in hoodies a lot but I'm worried with having started a new job that if I keep doing that, I'm actually a bit of a banana republic type guy normally (yeah, maybe it's lame but I prefer a more dressed up look personally). I don't want to get surgery and then draw further attention to it by completely changing style! Lol. If anyone has any advice based on that though, please fire away!
I use to hate wearing V necks as well for the same issue, but you know, as I've gotten more broad in the shoulders I've started to like them. I think thats what's going for you. The V neck sweater combined with a smart style makes you look older, and in your case, makes you look nothing but male.
Quote from: Jack_M on October 21, 2013, 01:10:10 AM
Now I need advice!
Since I've been on T I've been working out loads. Dropped to 28 inch waist, back up to almost 31inch with muscle. Dropped 2 cup sizes...but beefed up my chest with muscle.
So now I'm just really, really, really self conscious about my chest. I only started working out harder in the chest area because I know I'll get surgery within the next couple of months but right now, even though cup size is smaller, I feel like having anything along with that muscle growth is giving me away.
And so we come to a a couple of sweaters my surrogate Vancouver father bought me. I do like them but they're V neck and while him and his mates (not all of whom know I'm trans) think it makes me look buff, I'm not entirely convinced and looking for feedback. Does it makes me look good, or does it make me look female? All I see is female but I know I'm my worst critic! Please be 100% honest. (Ignore the questioning look, my camera made a weird sound before it took the timed photo).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg577.imageshack.us%2Fimg577%2F4747%2Fp3k4.jpg&hash=26730a3e3b5296c824c40b073c990f1db34482c1)
Right now I've been hiding in hoodies a lot but I'm worried with having started a new job that if I keep doing that, I'm actually a bit of a banana republic type guy normally (yeah, maybe it's lame but I prefer a more dressed up look personally). I don't want to get surgery and then draw further attention to it by completely changing style! Lol. If anyone has any advice based on that though, please fire away!
Um yeah you look nothing like a female all I see is guy even wearing that v neck shirt which you look good in btw. And I tell you what I'll trade you my seeing nothing but a guy for your all I see is female. :P
Quote from: Jack_M on October 21, 2013, 01:10:10 AM
Now I need advice!
Since I've been on T I've been working out loads. Dropped to 28 inch waist, back up to almost 31inch with muscle. Dropped 2 cup sizes...but beefed up my chest with muscle.
So now I'm just really, really, really self conscious about my chest. I only started working out harder in the chest area because I know I'll get surgery within the next couple of months but right now, even though cup size is smaller, I feel like having anything along with that muscle growth is giving me away.
And so we come to a a couple of sweaters my surrogate Vancouver father bought me. I do like them but they're V neck and while him and his mates (not all of whom know I'm trans) think it makes me look buff, I'm not entirely convinced and looking for feedback. Does it makes me look good, or does it make me look female? All I see is female but I know I'm my worst critic! Please be 100% honest. (Ignore the questioning look, my camera made a weird sound before it took the timed photo).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg577.imageshack.us%2Fimg577%2F4747%2Fp3k4.jpg&hash=26730a3e3b5296c824c40b073c990f1db34482c1)
Hey Jack :)
You totally pass! You shouldn't be self-conscious about your chest at all! Also, your shoulders are wide enough to pull off a v-neck sweater without it looking in the least feminine. Overall, looking good ;)
And that's so funny I thought that was "I'm a bada**" face
Thanks all!
And thanks Jamison, you're an inspiration, dude! Appreciate the feedback and good to know you had similar concerns. I do like how better fitted sweaters or polos can accentuate shoulders and biceps, I think I'll love them more post surgery!
I know I can get overly worried about my chest, so I appreciate the feedback. Since T I've found gaining muscle to be easy (I'm not saying it is easy but given how much I've always worked out it's been easy for me). So the bulk in my chest hit me like a ton of bricks. I don't want to stop because top surgery is for life and I know the better defined there, the better potential for good results, but obviously anything growing in that area is scary.
Good point on the looking older thing, too. I find dressing smarter pushes me more into being perceived to be closer to my age. When I'm wearing the hoodies, I'm more likely to come off as a teenage boy! Lol.
Quote from: Shaina on October 21, 2013, 03:07:45 AM
Hey Jack :)
You totally pass! You shouldn't be self-conscious about your chest at all! Also, your shoulders are wide enough to pull off a v-neck sweater without it looking in the least feminine. Overall, looking good ;)
And that's so funny I thought that was "I'm a bada**" face
Nice! Maybe not far off posting in the badass thread, eh? Just need to remember to look quizzical :P.
Quote from: Markus on October 20, 2013, 10:44:29 PM
I originally took this for the badass thread, but since its my first post on here (hi) I will post it here.
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Feel free to be as honest as you want.
Quote from: Jack_M on October 21, 2013, 01:10:10 AM
Markus - pass for sure. However, depending on your age, I wouldn't go out and show off patchy hair growth. If you are actually quite young then ignore me but older guys wouldn't be proud of patchy growth.
I am self employed so I often work on projects for days to months at a time which means during this time I don't socialize a whole lot.
This has been one of those months, during these times I tend to let my appearance slide a lot, as you can see, I didn't take any time to smarten up my clothes, comb my hair or shave for that picture.
I just wanted to clear that up in case I came across like I was somehow proud of my facial hair, which isn't really the case, I was just too lazy to shave lol.
Quote from: randomdude5 on October 20, 2013, 04:06:59 PM
Spacerace, to me you pass. In the last two photos you look 14, in the first you look a bit older, but I do think you pass. Keep in mind we cannot see your mannerisms and the way you present yourself.
Thanks. Yeah, I think it will take some time to look older - I think I act pretty male behaviorally, but no clue how true that is.
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on October 20, 2013, 04:23:32 PM
Besides, having Your hair parted is very much male signature (I am from the other camp, so everytime I part my hair I am seeing that I instantly loose in terms of my passability). I hope this helps a bit :).
This does help a lot. I hadn't thought about that - I will make sure to at least ruffle the front to one side in a pseduo-part to help with passing. thanks.
Quote from: AlexanderC on October 20, 2013, 06:17:37 PM
Spacerace, unfortunately I have to disagree with the others. In the first picture you don't pass to me at all, but the second you do, and there seems something a little off in the last picture, but if had to gender you I'd put you as male. Bearing in mind that I'm more conscious of gendering people correctly now that I know there are people like us out there who are deliberately trying to present as a specific gender, and that the average person would probably just go for their first impressions and go for male.
I think better fitting clothes might help, although I know that's hard, but sometimes I feel that when we wear bigger clothes it makes it easier for people see us as butch women who can't be bothered to dress up. Mannerisms go a long way as well, and we can't see those. Honestly, they go a huge way, someone I recently met told me after I came out to her that although I'm pretending to be female, and she's been told that I am by my job, my mannerisms made her fairely sure that I was a trans man.
I also think that there might be a difference in how people from different countries look, because a few times I've noticed that American people look different to average British ones and that I would say they didn't pass when everyone else says that they do one hundred percent. I also know a butch woman who looks similar to you in hair and facial structure which throws me off too, so take what I say with a pinch of salt and wait for the T to do its stuff.
Yeah - I agree about the clothes. Unfortunately, I still wear a L or sometimes an XL in shirts, so the sleeves sorta come in that length in order to make them fit elsewhere. I've really slacked on losing weight since starting testosterone, so that is something I can work on. Once I can get into a shirt size that fits my frame better, it should improve.
I'm hoping my jaw squares off too. I think that well help. I appreciate the feedback.
Quote from: Jack_M on October 21, 2013, 01:10:10 AM
Since I've been on T I've been working out loads. Dropped to 28 inch waist, back up to almost 31inch with muscle. Dropped 2 cup sizes...but beefed up my chest with muscle.
So now I'm just really, really, really self conscious about my chest. I only started working out harder in the chest area because I know I'll get surgery within the next couple of months but right now, even though cup size is smaller, I feel like having anything along with that muscle growth is giving me away.
And so we come to a a couple of sweaters my surrogate Vancouver father bought me. I do like them but they're V neck and while him and his mates (not all of whom know I'm trans) think it makes me look buff, I'm not entirely convinced and looking for feedback. Does it makes me look good, or does it make me look female? All I see is female but I know I'm my worst critic! Please be 100% honest. (Ignore the questioning look, my camera made a weird sound before it took the timed photo).
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100% pass brother. Good job on your workouts. I like v neck shirts and think they are quite masculinizing.
Quote from: Daniel-S on October 19, 2013, 11:15:08 PM
I would like to know if do I pass with my new haircut. I like it, but I'm not sure, I don't know if I'm getting paranoid or it's true, but sometimes I think I do look just like a lesbian..
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I accept and appreciate advice, critics and all that kind of stuff. ;)
I think you pass for the most part, but your glasses are way too big for your face and I think it makes you look more slender / feminine.
I hate to spam, but here is a less creepy pic of me, though I am not feeling very well today.. I think it shows lol.
I have been on T for about a year or so and my appearance has changed dramatically on T and with additional weight loss.
I seem to pass, I don't generally ask people if I do. It is really difficult to look at myself objectively, so I would like to hear a few more opinions, not only if I pass, but how much I pass or how much I miss the mark.
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By the way, when I was a kid/ teen, I was bullied for being -THE- ugly kid at school, but with a bit more weight loss, I don't think I will look half bad :P
And yeah, I still haven't shaved, I will get right on that.. Eventually.
Markus, you look awesome to me! Definitely reading male, especially since you've got a bit of facial hair.
Quote from: ttim0324 on October 21, 2013, 04:21:53 PM
I swore that I would never post a picture of myself online but I've been particularly self conscious lately and decided to just go ahead and do it. I tried to use a picture I dont think I pass very well in so here goes nothing. Tips? Criticisms?
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If this is one that you don't pass well in...you have
literally nothing to worry about. I can't say I've seen many more manly looking guys on here.
@ttim0324 Yeah, you have nothing to worry about, you are one of the lucky ones who pass really well, So many of us would love to be in your shoes.
@ttim0324 I agree with everyone else, you look great. If I HAD to pick something that might possibly MAYBE be non-masculine I'd say your eyebrows are a bit more groomed looking than most men, but that definitely doesn't hinder your passing at all. I only even noticed because I was really looking, if I saw you on the street I wouldn't doubt at all that you were a man.
Quote from: ttim0324 on October 21, 2013, 04:21:53 PM
I swore that I would never post a picture of myself online but I've been particularly self conscious lately and decided to just go ahead and do it. I tried to use a picture I dont think I pass very well in so here goes nothing. Tips? Criticisms?
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PASS! Tim I don't think anyone would think twice, including myself. You've got a strong jaw, good shoulders, good amount of muscle. I think I even see some facial hair. Basically you're a hottie :P Nothing to worry about!
@Markus those kids you went to school with can kick rocks and blow bubbles! You look great and I hope you feel better :)
Quote from: Shaina on October 21, 2013, 06:27:53 PM
PASS! Tim I don't think anyone would think twice, including myself. You've got a strong jaw, good shoulders, good amount of muscle. I think I even see some facial hair. Basically you're a hottie :P Nothing to worry about!
She's right about that smokin hot guy!
This is me. I am aware I need to fix my hair a little, and lose some weight to pass better. But I am still only out to a small handful of people. How do I pass so far?
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Quote from: mynameisjacob on October 22, 2013, 12:43:26 AM
This is me. I am aware I need to fix my hair a little, and lose some weight to pass better. But I am still only out to a small handful of people. How do I pass so far?
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You pass to me. I think the hair played a big part in it too.
Thanks Malachite :) By "the hair played a big part in it too", do you mean my hairstyle helps me pass?
Quote from: mynameisjacob on October 22, 2013, 01:49:57 AM
Thanks Malachite :) By "the hair played a big part in it too", do you mean my hairstyle helps me pass?
I think you do pass. I think a lot of the time it comes down to voice, if your voice is more masculine than feminine i wouldn't give it much thought about your gender.
You also have a pretty solid frame, with T i reckon you could develop an impressive body if that's what you wanted :)
Thankyou, for a biological female I think I have quite a broad shouldered, stocky build. It's great! I did 7 years of taekwondo so I used to be quite muscly, but I am happy with how stocky built I am :D
Quote from: mynameisjacob on October 22, 2013, 12:43:26 AM
This is me. I am aware I need to fix my hair a little, and lose some weight to pass better. But I am still only out to a small handful of people. How do I pass so far?
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Yeah Jacob, you have a real guy's type build alright, no doubt about it!
Damn Jacob, you look SO familiar somehow.
You don't really pass to me tbh though...there's something that I can't quite put my finger on. I think part of it is your stance and expression - it's a bit unassuming and gentle. Which there is nothing wrong with, in fact, that's how I present myself - but it does give off a bit of a "feminine" vibe. And as all of us are pre-transition, you have a softer face. But you have things in your favour. The others are right though, you do have a good build on you which will work in your favour. The hair works too, better than short hair would on your face (at least as I can imagine it), but I would try to make sure you keep it "shaggier" if you have it long so it doesn't get too pretty lol.
Thanks again everyone! <3
Jacob: I'm with Caleb on this, I think a lot has to do with your stance and expression. If you looked more confident (and you should, because you look like a nice sized guy) I'd be much quicker to think male immediately. Also think a haircut would help-just a trim though.
Thanks, I usually am quite masculine with how I walk, sit etc. This photo was when I first put my binder on and I was a little camera shy. But I will definately work on my stance. Also, I just had a haircut and am waiting for it to grow a bit shaggier. I am so lucky I have such a masculine build :D Thanks everyone
I don't pass. （；￣д￣）
Can you guys give me some tips.
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And maybe some tips on how to get my voice deeper, here is what I sound like naturally, ugh. :(
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To me you pass, maybe not 100% but you do pass. If I saw you down the street, I would assume you were a guy :) But it also depends on your body frame (cant really see it), height, mannerisms etc :)
Damien -
It is really difficult to give you advice with the angles you provided. A shorter haircut might help. Can you post some pictures from a normal angle?
After seeing such amazing passes here, I thought I would see about giving it a shot. I have just recently come out to myself, so I am pretty much pre everything xD
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I know I am far from passing, but any tips?
Quote from: Dalex on October 24, 2013, 01:53:44 PM
After seeing such amazing passes here, I thought I would see about giving it a shot. I have just recently come out to myself, so I am pretty much pre everything xD
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I know I am far from passing, but any tips?
Uh huh... cut Your hair, the hat goes straight to the dustbin and drop that sad expression! Look straight into camera! Be bold and brave as lion - feel it! :)
And @ mynameisjacob
Wow - that is some frame You have there! Your shoulders are wider than I ever had (and I used to wear male L size clothes solely because of them).
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on October 24, 2013, 02:21:15 PM
Uh huh... cut Your hair, the hat goes straight to the dustbin and drop that sad expression! Look straight into camera! Be bold and brave as lion - feel it! :)
Thanks Emily! I think I will soon! And then I shall post the results! But that hat, even for how ugly it is... Holds a rather special place with me xD
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on October 24, 2013, 02:21:15 PM
Uh huh... cut Your hair, the hat goes straight to the dustbin and drop that sad expression! Look straight into camera! Be bold and brave as lion - feel it! :)
Alright! I cut my hair, just maybe twenty minutes ago or so. I am not a professional, just come from a long line of hairdressers so I know a thing or two. Also know, I don't look good with too short hair. I have done that before, and it does not suit me much. But! Here is me in all my sillyness. Dropped the sad expression and smiled!
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And yes ._. I love my hoody xD
You look really cool Dalex ;D I can't say for sure if I think you'd entirely pass, but yeah, you look awesome nevertheless.
Quote from: caleb. on October 24, 2013, 06:26:44 PM
You look really cool Dalex ;D I can't say for sure if I think you'd entirely pass, but yeah, you look awesome nevertheless.
Thanks Caleb. You have no idea how much it means to hear that. But, since I am not completely out, I am taking one step at a time hoping to maybe ease the news in. *crosses fingers*
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on October 24, 2013, 02:21:15 PM
And @ mynameisjacob
Wow - that is some frame You have there! Your shoulders are wider than I ever had (and I used to wear male L size clothes solely because of them).
I know right ;) I don't even know how I got this body frame! My sisters are so petite ! Thankyou :)
Quote from: mynameisjacob on October 24, 2013, 06:50:03 AM
To me you pass, maybe not 100% but you do pass. If I saw you down the street, I would assume you were a guy :) But it also depends on your body frame (cant really see it), height, mannerisms etc :)
Really? That makes me feel a little better. Gah, I am really short. 5 feet 3 inches. >__< I assume my mannerisms are masculine.
Quote from: chuck on October 24, 2013, 06:50:36 AM
Damien -
It is really difficult to give you advice with the angles you provided. A shorter haircut might help. Can you post some pictures from a normal angle?
Um, well here is a bathroom selfie I took at uni today. I can take more pics if this isn't good enough.
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Dalex, You are getting there, slowly :) Cutting Your hair actually made A LOT of difference. But... when I suggested You to look straight into camera - I did not mean for You to smile too ;). Of all three pictures You posted, You did best in the last one where You are fooling around a bit. The second one was the worst (in terms of male passing, of course) - work on Your posture, facial expression, make that unshakable stern gaze and all that BS which I keep picking up from my own pics when I compare my before-and-after state ;).
I'm from L.a.t.v.i.a, 19y/o, 5'3 and weigh 60kg, I hate my asian-like facial features, I think that I would fit in the category of East Baltic race. Do I pass?
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Best worst background ever. Note. I have a f---ing ponytail back there (soon that will change) but I always make my hair like that. Since I'm not out, I use a vest as a binder :/
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The only thing I can stand pre-t are my eyes when my face is closed like this :D
Paldies par komentāru :>
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on October 27, 2013, 02:44:25 AM
Overally, You have quite masculine base to start with and the HRT will greatly benefit You by roughening Your skin and other facial features up.
That's what I'm hoping for because I hate to look at myself in the mirror, I get angry and tend to hit it because I do not see what should be right (seriously).
I might remove these images sometime today :/, sorry 'y'all I could try posting here again once I'm on T
Quote from: Armand_ on October 26, 2013, 05:26:40 PM
I'm from L.a.t.v.i.a, 19y/o, 5'3 and weigh 60kg, I hate my asian-like facial features, I think that I would fit in the category of East Baltic race. Do I pass?
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Best worst background ever. Note. I have a f---ing ponytail back there (soon that will change) but I always make my hair like that. Since I'm not out, I use a vest as a binder :/
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The only thing I can stand pre-t are my eyes when my face is closed like this :D
You look quite masculine in the first pic Armand, as Emily said i'm sure with T you'll make great strides :)
Quote from: Armand_ on October 27, 2013, 04:58:49 AM
Paldies par komentāru :>That's what I'm hoping for because I hate to look at myself in the mirror, I get angry and tend to hit it because I do not see what should be right (seriously).
I might remove these images sometime today :/, sorry 'y'all I could try posting here again once I'm on T
You hit the mirror or you hit your face? Neither will make you more masculine and before worrying about HRT or anything of the sort you should probably get that under control-T doesnt make everyone angry but it can contribute to an already short temper.
On the bright side: your chin, jaw, and forehead are all masculine. You look better than you think you do!
A long time i didn't post just want to make sure if i still pass ty.
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Quote from: jossef-ftm on October 28, 2013, 09:48:58 AM
A long time i didn't post just want to make sure if i still pass ty.
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I would say a pass :)
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These are the 3 best pics I have..
LJ, most definitely a pass, at least on my end. Only thing I can see there is a man.
Quote from: androidnick on October 28, 2013, 06:19:45 PM
For the first time I'm actually dressing up for Halloween. Under my dress shirt I have my superman shirt that will look like I'm "transforming" lol Anyway, I took pictures and I feel like I might pass but I look at myself and it's like I feel there is something feminine about my face. Like I might not actually pass. Maybe it's just that I probably look extremely young. I don't know. Input please?
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You do look really young, but I see a young man in those two pics :)
androidnick, your Superman is great! LJ is right, there is a young man in those pictures ;)
I thought I would try again (Not really much of a picture person, more then bit camera shy)
This time, I did some temporary binding, just for the sake of the picture since I don't have a binder yet.
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I got told I look like a kid... If I would get a binder and dress the part, think I would pass?
Dalex, that looks like a pass to me. The shirt (at least from this angle) makes you look pretty flat. You look around 15 or so though, might be the shaggy hairstyle, but you've got that skater boy look. xD However, the tie could be adjusted a bit, seems haphazard.
Otherwise, looks good!
Quote from: beaver on October 29, 2013, 10:06:15 AM
Dalex, that looks like a pass to me. The shirt (at least from this angle) makes you look pretty flat. You look around 15 or so though, might be the shaggy hairstyle, but you've got that skater boy look. xD However, the tie could be adjusted a bit, seems haphazard.
Otherwise, looks good!
Thanks! Well... 15 or not, I am happy that it is at least a pass xD I'm 23 years old and still get asked for my ID when I need to buy smokes...But! A pass is a pass! xD
Um, well here is a bathroom selfie I took at uni today. I can take more pics if this isn't good enough.
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From a trained eye, I say prob no pass. I think maybe a more masculine hair cut and a solid rimmed pair of glasses would help. I do think it is possible for you to pass pre-T, which some are not so lucky, but it would be highly dependent on mannerisms and style.
Quote from: Dalex on October 29, 2013, 10:20:13 AM
Thanks! Well... 15 or not, I am happy that it is at least a pass xD I'm 23 years old and still get asked for my ID when I need to buy smokes...But! A pass is a pass! xD
I would of ID'd you when I worked in a bar, but I would definitely of thought that it was a boy I was IDing.
I started getting asked for ID alot more once I started on E (which is quite nice at 31, but not when there's a bloke on the passport!), T will definitely turn you from boy to man...
Quote from: Jamison on October 29, 2013, 12:17:10 PM
Um, well here is a bathroom selfie I took at uni today. I can take more pics if this isn't good enough.
From a trained eye, I say prob no pass. I think maybe a more masculine hair cut and a solid rimmed pair of glasses would help. I do think it is possible for you to pass pre-T, which some are not so lucky, but it would be highly dependent on mannerisms and style.
I would say butch lesbian just from the pic, but as you say - who you carry yourself can make a lot of difference. I know a few butch lesbians that look more masculine than you do, but I would never think they were anything other than women due to how they speak/move.
Quote from: Kaylee on October 29, 2013, 01:37:10 PM
I would of ID'd you when I worked in a bar, but I would definitely of thought that it was a boy I was IDing.
I started getting asked for ID alot more once I started on E (which is quite nice at 31, but not when there's a bloke on the passport!), T will definitely turn you from boy to man...
Thanks Kaylee :) I am looking very much forward to when I can start T.
And I can understand that it is complimenting to be ID'd at the age of 31. I hope you will be able to get the right ID soon :)
Umm, Dalex, yeah... You look like my best female friend's son - he is 14 and in his puberty (all covered in acne :P). But given Your hair length and overally ruffled up look... there indeed is a lot of similarities between You two :).
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on October 29, 2013, 04:23:37 PM
Umm, Dalex, yeah... You look like my best female friend's son - he is 14 and in his puberty (all covered in acne :P). But given Your hair length and overally ruffled up look... there indeed is a lot of similarities between You two :).
I suppose I'm lucky I am not covered in acne then :P Actually was really lucky about acne when I was going through puberty. Only got two on my forehead and one on my chin, seems to run in the family that guys have it much better then the girls when it came to puberty acne, so my sisters and cousins were not so happy with me xD
Quote from: Aidan? on October 31, 2013, 02:34:36 PM
I suppose I'm lucky I am not covered in acne then :P Actually was really lucky about acne when I was going through puberty. Only got two on my forehead and one on my chin, seems to run in the family that guys have it much better then the girls when it came to puberty acne, so my sisters and cousins were not so happy with me xD
I never got acne either! Though my T-zone gets shiny enough to direct traffic! :P
Not really a "Do I Pass" but more of a "Do you notice any changes" This is pre t and two months on T I know it is early to see changes but eh.
Pre T
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2 Months on T
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Quote from: thatboyfresh on October 31, 2013, 03:19:19 PM
Not really a "Do I Pass" but more of a "Do you notice any changes" This is pre t and two months on T I know it is early to see changes but eh.
I think that Your face got a tiny bit narrower (it is probably because Your cheeks turned a little less plump). Also, I am getting impression that Your eyes seem to be a little bit deeper set - but only a little. Courage and patience - Your journey just begins ;)
Quote from: thatboyfresh on October 31, 2013, 03:19:19 PM
Not really a "Do I Pass" but more of a "Do you notice any changes" This is pre t and two months on T I know it is early to see changes but eh.
Looking good my man! I agree I think your face is more narrow and your facial hair is quite pronounced! You passed in the "before" shots just more so in the "after". That's great-especially after only 2 months.
@Emily: Thanks for your encouraging words :) My girlfriend also noticed less of a "chipmonkey" look lol
@Shania : Also thanks! It's always nice to hear. And the facial hair I did notice was darker and more thick now that you mention it!. I have always had facial hair to some degree but now it's actually definable.
Quote from: tvc15 on October 31, 2013, 12:24:38 PM
A few pages back someone said older guys wouldn't show off patchy facial hair growth if that's all they could muster. I don't know how old he was talking about, but I work with a bunch of 22-26 year old guys and crappy facial hair abounds. I can now grow a crappy goatee, crappy stache, and crappy burns, so I finally fit in. :p
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1130.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm522%2Fphoenixflorida%2Fschwinn_zps34e6bfc5.jpg&hash=af80fe9a16a554c522601ef2b3a371edbd7506a4)
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These were taken just the other day. Been 13 months w/o a haircut, and it's only gonna get longer... don't care what anyone says, and most people have a lot to say about it ;)
You remind me of Leo Dicaprio!
Holy wah, that's a compliment ;D
Quote from: thatboyfresh on October 31, 2013, 03:19:19 PM
Not really a "Do I Pass" but more of a "Do you notice any changes" This is pre t and two months on T I know it is early to see changes but eh.
Pre T
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2 Months on T
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.tinypic.com%2F334uhk6.jpg&hash=db7e2534498fa7a186bcff565cd33c83a4aea697) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.tinypic.com%2F2nuivci.jpg&hash=f9c01f31f3ddf327f8d00407ac9d74cf67e1d367)
Honey, amazing! Everyone in the past told me I looked so masculine and I wouldn't ever fit in as a woman when I came out to them, but honey, you really look more masculine than me and blow me away even on my manliest day in the past.
As for the changes, I see 4 major things from those 4 pics, hairline is a little different it seems, and the hair on your face seems darker, fuller, and filling in more. The next one is your eyes, seems like now you look at things differently. Maybe it was just the way you focused on the camera this time but it is a different look. Also, your head seems to be not as soft, it has squared out a little and not as smooth and round like before.
That is what I see. :)
@Ксениа thanks! that really means a lot!
Quote from: ttim0324 on November 03, 2013, 01:29:22 AM
@thatboyfresh your face definitely slimmed out and I'm not sure if it's because of your shape up or not but your hairline also looks different. Very handsome, bro!
Thanks man!. I think the hair cut does a lot for me in the way of giving my hair line and face a more masculine look. I always get mis-gendered more when I let it grow out which is a shame. Maybe when I am more into my T I will let it grow out lol
Hi everyone! I'm new around here. I want to post a pic (which was the original purpose of this post) but can't see the attachments option, maybe because I haven't posted enough yet?
15 posts are required for a number of things including avatars. If you read the TOS, you will find life here is good and it explains much of this.
Welcome to Susan's. Perhaps a intro in the introduction area would be fun. Meanwhile, Look around and read as you will.
Thanks a lot for answering so fast LordKAT. I agree that life here is good and have been reading the forums for a while now ^_^ When I said I wanted to post a pic I didn't mean an avatar but a pic for this thread ("do I pass?"), do I need 15 posts for this too? I'd be ok with that, just making sure I'm not missing a feature or something (I haven't used forums that much in my life so sometimes I have trouble doing certain things). Also, I only see one reply button, does that mean I can't reply to specific answers? Either way, thanks a lot for everything, I'm loving the forums so far.
You need to use a photo hosting site like Photobucket etc. to post a pic. in a topic
You need to load your pic to a hosting site like deviant art or something and then post that link. Sorry that I misunderstood.
Edit: What Virginia said.
Quote from: em444 on November 04, 2013, 12:51:27 PM
Thanks a lot for answering so fast LordKAT. I agree that life here is good and have been reading the forums for a while now ^_^ When I said I wanted to post a pic I didn't mean an avatar but a pic for this thread ("do I pass?"), do I need 15 posts for this too? I'd be ok with that, just making sure I'm not missing a feature or something (I haven't used forums that much in my life so sometimes I have trouble doing certain things). Also, I only see one reply button, does that mean I can't reply to specific answers? Either way, thanks a lot for everything, I'm loving the forums so far.
If you want to post a picture in a thread (like this one) you need to first upload the photograph to an image sharing site, such as imgur, tinypic, photobucket, or any of the other millions of sites like them out there. From there there you should be able to get a link to that photograph, it'll say "html link" or something similar, copy that into your post on here and type "[img ]" "[/img ]" either side of it so that you get something which looks like this:
[img ] yourphotourl [/img ]
(remove all the spaces between the square brackets)
By replying to specific posts do you mean like this, with theirs quoted inside yours? To do that just click on where it says "quote" at the top right hand corner of their post instead of reply. If you want to reply to more than one user do that and then below the text box there are recent posts, which you can also add quotes on with the "insert quote" button.
Remember you can always use the preview button to check that things have worked the way you wanted them too, and things will get easier the more you get used to it.
EDIT: Others beat me to it, but this is a little more in-depth. Hoped it helped.
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I want to use this as a profile pic, but want to make sure I pass first. Do I?
Alright-here goes nothing: While I identify as genderqueer, I still have that strong need to pass for female, so here is a picture of me (also go by my profile pic?). It's from my best side in perfect lighting, but let me know what it is that tips everyone off-I don't have an exceptionally male face really, but it's not female either. I'm thinking of FFS so input is appreciated. And don't tell me to change the hair. I will go to the ends of the earth to change anything else, but the hair stays (albiet slightly trimmed from time to time).
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And Ryan B: The lighting in that photo isn't the best, but you certainly look more male than female; you look like a very young male, but that issue tends to resolve itself after a little bit of time on T. I can sort of tell, but that might be because we're all hyper-aware of these things.
hi painter,
I would actually disagree with you about your face. You have a really strong jawline and chin. I think your hair is awesome.
Thank you all of answering, you've been very helpful, and thanks AlexanderC for explaining the quoting process. I guess I'll go to photobucket now ^_^
oh and androgynouspainter26 your hair is absolutely awesome so I agree you shouldn't change it ^_^ I don't know much about these things (kind of why I want to post my pic to see what other people think) but for me, you totally pass. Ryan B. you pass in my eyes too.
Ok so here are my pics (sorry por posting twice, I hope this is ok with forum rules). I know I don't pass, but I'd like some advice as to what I can do. Some of my problems are that I'm fat, I have random stains and pimples in my face which is all somehow feminizing, my eyes seem to be quite feminine and I have the weirdest head shape ever. I think my haircut looks nice when seen from the front, but if you look at me from the side (second pic) or from behind everything looks terrible and that has happened with every other haircut I've ever had so I don't know what to do about it :S It also seems that my plug piercing doesn't help at all but it's not like I can simply take it off :S Thanks in advance! P.S.: should I trim my eye lashes? do some people do that? is it dangerous? (since they have a purpose) I have the feeling that mine might be too long xD.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi970.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae181%2Fem4445%2Fsnapshot62_zps517bfe7f.jpg&hash=0e8c2a50774b59c135c3d0451fe32cdc0019be16) (http://s970.photobucket.com/user/em4445/media/snapshot62_zps517bfe7f.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi970.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae181%2Fem4445%2Fsnapshot63_zps4e3eda2a.jpg&hash=fc603a63161109e23c53abd9c8482c25b5a21434) (http://s970.photobucket.com/user/em4445/media/snapshot63_zps4e3eda2a.jpg.html)
Thank you both! :) Went ahead and decided to use that picture.
By the way androgynouspainter26, I personally read you as more feminine than masculine.
Have to agree with Chuck about androgynouspainter26, your jawline and chin are quite masculine. I'm not sure what could be done to make you look more feminine to be honest, I wouldnt be able to peg you as either in person. It'd probably have a lot to do with your mannerisms.
Ryan, I love your hat! Ufortunately it looks a little bit on the big side, I'll assume it's a fitted? I've always found snapbacks make me look a bit more masculine. Perhaps due to the shorter brim. Maybe try that but I'd still peg you as male, albeit very young.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on November 04, 2013, 09:09:55 PM
Alright-here goes nothing: While I identify as genderqueer, I still have that strong need to pass for female, so here is a picture of me (also go by my profile pic?). It's from my best side in perfect lighting, but let me know what it is that tips everyone off-I don't have an exceptionally male face really, but it's not female either. I'm thinking of FFS so input is appreciated. And don't tell me to change the hair. I will go to the ends of the earth to change anything else, but the hair stays (albiet slightly trimmed from time to time).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQdt9ljP.jpg&hash=e1d4188717cc77bbf351208ff412386617d28e5b)
The face looks plenty girly to me, I wouldn't change a thing and OMG that hair, I'g give my left and right kahones if I had any for a head of hair and volume like that!
em444 the front looks great and I read you as male from that angle, but I do agree that the side isn't on par. I think it may be because you've cut it too short, thereby exposing your lack of sideburns, and basically a less masculine hairline on the side in general. You might benefit from growing your hair out a bit on the sides and see what you can do with that. I like your plugs though, don't find anything wrong with that, makes you look more badass.
em444, I agree with what beaver said. I saw you as more male, and for the hair I think it might help letting it grow a bit, perhaps about two inches? Just a little longer should do it :)
Ryan yes, I would say you pass on that picture. On a side note...can I steal your hat? >:-)
Thank you both (Dalex and Beaver) for your answer! I will definitely let it grow a bit on the sides as you suggest, although I've had many different haircuts (different lengths) and it always looks weird from the sides, I don't get it! xD makes me hate my head quite a bit. How does the hair-line thing work? can I change it somehow or does it require T? Again thank you so much, I'm glad I'm not doing that bad from the front xD. oh and I'm glad you like my plug Beaver, I love it too, but sometimes think it might look a bit feminine for some reason but now I'm reassured, so thanks :)
Quote from: em444 on November 05, 2013, 07:09:27 PM
Thank you both (Dalex and Beaver) for your answer! I will definitely let it grow a bit on the sides as you suggest, although I've had many different haircuts (different lengths) and it always looks weird from the sides, I don't get it! xD makes me hate my head quite a bit. How does the hair-line thing work? can I change it somehow or does it require T? Again thank you so much, I'm glad I'm not doing that bad from the front xD. oh and I'm glad you like my plug Beaver, I love it too, but sometimes think it might look a bit feminine for some reason but now I'm reassured, so thanks :)
Well, I come from a long line of hairstylists, and the only thing I can think of that could explain how the hair on the sides go is because of a certain sway that is there. Everyone has something like that, mine is on the back of my head so my hair there tends to sway more to the left side, so really short hair does not suit me because of that.
As for the hairline, you would be amazed how everyone can grow hair if they shave the small hairs often. I'm not saying you should, since I don't know how it works with side burns. But, there is a saying, for every hair you shave, three grow in it's place, which is the reason why many women tend to wax their legs to make the hair return slower. But, T is definitely something that will help with that as well, since men tend to be usually more hairy then women.
I hope that helped :)
Shaved my head and need an opinion guys. Pass or no pass?
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dreadlox, shaved head looks good on you. i think u pass with it. whenever i start feeling dysphoric, i always shave my head. lol. i never let it get longer than about 1/4in anymore. it bothers me too much. its funny how hair makes me completely pass or not pass to myself, even tho i pass 200% in public. we are the most judgemental on ourselves...
That was an awesome explanation Dalex! thank you so much, I'll take all that into account
Dreadlox, I would say a definite pass!
And you are most welcome em444! I'm glad I could be of any help :)
Thanks everyone for your responses. You've confirmed what I already know; Dr. Spergal should have his work cut out for him, as should my bank account :(
That's just my luck I suppose. And to think that this all could been avoided had my parents let me take blockers.
Thanks Guys! I feel much better about the shaved head!
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I hope I pass I was trying out a new style. Excuse the mess I was in my girlfriends messy room lol
Quote from: ttim0324 on November 05, 2013, 03:11:53 PM
Ryan, I love your hat! Ufortunately it looks a little bit on the big side, I'll assume it's a fitted? I've always found snapbacks make me look a bit more masculine. Perhaps due to the shorter brim. Maybe try that but I'd still peg you as male, albeit very young.
Yup, it's fitted. I usually prefer snapbacks anyways, but that's my only Batman hat.
Quote from: Dalex on November 05, 2013, 05:44:44 PM
Ryan yes, I would say you pass on that picture. On a side note...can I steal your hat? >:-)
Yes, but you'll have to follow a series of Riddler clues to find it! (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc02.deviantart.net%2Ffs31%2Ff%2F2008%2F217%2F2%2Fb%2FThe_Riddler_by_NamelessBot.gif&hash=fd2d51f33c6b20d34bfd7bb4ec4382259edff96e)
Quote from: maximusloverus on November 06, 2013, 02:25:14 AM
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I hope I pass I was trying out a new style. Excuse the mess I was in my girlfriends messy room lol
Max, that looks like my room! :P
Anywho, I think you pass in the suit jacket. It makes your shoulders look broader and covers any curves you may or may not have. Good choice!
Hi.
I'm not very good at taking pictures of myself. This was taken during an event and I was pleased with it.
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Yes/no?
Quote from: beaver on November 06, 2013, 09:26:41 PM
Hi.
I'm not very good at taking pictures of myself. This was taken during an event and I was pleased with it.
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Yes/no?
Duuude! You look like a rock star.
Thanks Jill!
Although I wasn't actually singing or anything, just announcing something, I think. :P
You look great beaver and totally pass!
Quote from: beaver on November 06, 2013, 09:26:41 PM
Hi.
I'm not very good at taking pictures of myself. This was taken during an event and I was pleased with it.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi898.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac181%2Fcrossfirebeaver%2Fdsc07827_zpscf21dd05.jpg&hash=be1b1beb05c29b21d6b52a9b184e10f7cb424c59)
Yes/no?
Dude, I'm so jealous of your looks! You look good, mate!
Well, I have been talking in a deeper voice lately, or at least it feels like it and sounds like it to me. But, I wanted to ask here what you think? Bare in mind, I have never done a recording like this before and I apologize if the sound quality is horrible.
Also! Wanted to note! I'm wearing my underworks binder on that video and I love it! And I think I need to cut my hair a bit more as well, but I'm not out to everyone yet so I had it a bit longer when I cut it.
edit: Trying to fix the sound quality
Quote from: Dalex on November 07, 2013, 04:55:10 PM
Well, I have been talking in a deeper voice lately, or at least it feels like it and sounds like it to me. But, I wanted to ask here what you think? Bare in mind, I have never done a recording like this before and I apologize if the sound quality is horrible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LYxgtC_GgQ&list=HL1383864837
Also! Wanted to note! I'm wearing my underworks binder on that video and I love it! And I think I need to cut my hair a bit more as well, but I'm not out to everyone yet so I had it a bit longer when I cut it.
Got my sound cranked all the way up and am hearing nothing hon!
Quote from: Shantel on November 07, 2013, 05:03:12 PM
Got my sound cranked all the way up and am hearing nothing hon!
Fiddle snaps.... I'll have to try to re upload it then or change some settings.
So! I tried re uploading the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNrQjr-arbs
But, if the sound is still wonky, then here is another
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI920UT-Pl4
Gee, you look a lot like your avatar. Your voice sounds young and like it could go either way.
Quote from: LordKAT on November 07, 2013, 07:09:20 PM
Gee, you look a lot like your avatar. Your voice sounds young and like it could go either way.
Well, I hope that is a good thing! x3 And I do? Suppose that is at least better then having a voice that can be easily pointed out as female. Can I ask if the audio worked on the first video?
I was just told that I apparently look adorable and look like one of the Weasly brothers from Harry Potter... And I do hope my accent wasn't too much, English is not my first language :P
Dalex I think you look great! I don't think you have to cut your hair at all. You have a beautiful voice. It could definitely be deeper when it comes to singing but I don't think it would make you sound female, especially not with your looks, to me you sound like a younger guy but still a guy. It sounds even more masculine when you're talking as opposed to singing so I don't think you have a voice problem. I know what you mean by it being awkward to talk to yourself while filming a video haha xD By the way I couldn't hear much in the first video but the second sounded great. I don't think you have that much of an accent. I'm a bit curious, where are you from? english is not my first/mother language either so I know what you mean. By the way, you chose a great song. Sorry for writing so much xD Sometimes I get carried away or have trouble explaining things in a short manner.
Dalex, my ears say you pass, for sure. Especially the way you say "uh..." (not sure why). Your accent sounds cool, too.
Quote from: em444 on November 07, 2013, 08:46:16 PM
Dalex I think you look great! I don't think you have to cut your hair at all. You have a beautiful voice. It could definitely be deeper when it comes to singing but I don't think it would make you sound female, especially not with your looks, to me you sound like a younger guy but still a guy. It sounds even more masculine when you're talking as opposed to singing so I don't think you have a voice problem. I know what you mean by it being awkward to talk to yourself while filming a video haha xD By the way I couldn't hear much in the first video but the second sounded great. I don't think you have that much of an accent. I'm a bit curious, where are you from? english is not my first/mother language either so I know what you mean. By the way, you chose a great song. Sorry for writing so much xD Sometimes I get carried away or have trouble explaining things in a short manner.
Thanks! Yeah, the first video somehow did not really seem to pick up on much audio, and the second did not want to register my webcam xD And I'm from Iceland but I was born in Sweden, so English in a sense, is actually my third language xD But I don't remember much of Swedish in the terms of speaking it.
Quote from: beaver on November 07, 2013, 09:22:14 PM
Dalex, my ears say you pass, for sure. Especially the way you say "uh..." (not sure why). Your accent sounds cool, too.
Thanks! I'll just have to say "uh..." more often x3
Quote from: LordKAT on November 07, 2013, 07:09:20 PM
Gee, you look a lot like your avatar. Your voice sounds young and like it could go either way.
Ditto that, but if and when you get on T it will drop dramatically. You have a good voice though and you seem to be talking from your chest like most cis men do unlike many cis women who seem to relish talking from their neck like Kim K (sorry who I loathe).
Today was my first real day of trying to look like a dude in public. Not sure how well I did but one guy in a shop said "Have a good day man" as I left so I can't have been too bad.
Here's the photo:
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Quote from: Nikislash on November 08, 2013, 10:11:08 PM
Today was my first real day of trying to look like a dude in public. Not sure how well I did but one guy in a shop said "Have a good day man" as I left so I can't have been too bad.
Here's the photo:
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I'm not surprised! You really do look like a man. Your body shape does look a tad bit wide at the hips but there is no doubt your a man when i look at your face, appears very masculine to me. Are you on T?
No, not yet. I'm not sure whether I'd be able to either - I'm terrified of needles. If I can pass without then I don't know whether it's worth it. I definitely need to do something about my hips though, I was hippy even as a girl. I'm wearing women's jeans as well which doesn't help. Guess I should sign back up to the gym.
Quote from: Nikislash on November 08, 2013, 10:11:08 PM
Today was my first real day of trying to look like a dude in public. Not sure how well I did but one guy in a shop said "Have a good day man" as I left so I can't have been too bad.
Here's the photo:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi849.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fab54%2Ftheothernicky%2F20131109_165002-1_zps308fb2f5.jpg&hash=ddc373f9abe9bb2b3c56b30ce7b8fcd2b19e1b41)
Looking good dude definitely loving the T. If I saw you on the street I wouldn't have a doubt in my mind that you were a guy.
With T it will help to thicken out other parts of your body, your neck, shoulders and Lats and will help to balance out your body shape. That and T should move some of the fat off of your hips and buttocks.
Max, looking very slick in that jacket! You actually look a lot like my sisters boyfriend. XD Pass!
Beaver, you are also looking awesome! Definitely pass!
Dalex! I know I already told you this but yes, you pass! And dang you showed that ukulele who's boss! XD
Nikislash, you look great! Definitely pass! Love the shirt too. XD
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Attempt 2. Binding and Packing. How do I pass? :)
You pass well Jacob and your shirt is awesome ;)
Quote from: mynameisjacob on November 10, 2013, 03:58:54 AM
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Attempt 2. Binding and Packing. How do I pass? :)
This topic lately seems to be a lot of reassurance and less constructive criticism- but I think it's good to have a combo of both. So here's my two cents for jacob:
Generally, you have a great masculine build. However your face is andro and could go either way. T will thin out your cheeks, make your jaw more prominent and get you out of the baby face stage. When I see plaid shorts, unless I'm looking at a skinny, goatee-ed hipster dude, I'm probably thinking lesbian-I'm not sure if the cispopulation feels the same, or if it's just the crowd I've run in. Shorts in general tend to emphasize stockiness (especially with me), so I'd recommend loose fit straight jeans, sagged a bit but stabilized with a belt to cover the hips.
Also, I think you might pass better without the hat- goes better with the grunge style that I think highly attributes to your pass-ability. Of course all this is stereotypical, so take it with a grain of salt and be true to yourself.
cheers.
I agree with Jamison. The shorts aren't working for you. However, as a cyclist, I needed to find something that would work and I found that loose fit cargo shorts work for me, you may just have to shop around a bit. There definitely is something about plaid that doesn't work I've found. I only own one pair of plaid shorts and it's more a hidden plaid, they look black until you get close up. Lol. I do own some plaid shirts despite the "rules" but then again, I'm in Canada, home of the lumberjacks, and many guys have plaid shirts so that's fine. But plaid shorts, no. They're rare outside of the hipster crowd.
Female thighs tend to have this thing where they're always in contact with each other just because of fat distribution in this area. Women's shorts work for that fat distribution to sit right, but men's shorts tend to sit badly on female fat distributed hips and thighs and cause this weird thing where they point inwards after the hips which is what I can see happening in this pic with the centre at the crotch sitting funny and the inside lines of the plaid being higher than outside. You get away with a lot more in pants but shorts are definitely a tough one with female fat distribution. Some get lucky, but for the most part, nope :(.
The hat thing I agree with too. The hat says hip hop and then you get to a pistols tee and think, "WTF?" but that's more style than passibility, although avoiding second looks always helps lol.
Thanks guys, Im going to save my money for some nice men's pants or jeans :)
Hi... I'm new to the site, but I saw this thread and I thought I would share.
I haven't started testosterone yet, got to love cosmetics! but... Do I pass? :)
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Quote from: William Wimmer on November 11, 2013, 05:45:08 PM
Hi... I'm new to the site, but I saw this thread and I thought I would share.
I haven't started testosterone yet, got to love cosmetics! but... Do I pass? :)
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Can't really tell you if you pass or not looking like that. If you're asking if the fake beard passes, no. Definitely not.
Quote from: ttim0324 on November 11, 2013, 10:36:43 PM
Can't really tell you if you pass or not looking like that. If you're asking if the fake beard passes, no. Definitely not.
Meh, I tried. :-\
I plan on making the bear look better, though.. Thanks for the feedback.
Quote from: William Wimmer on November 11, 2013, 05:45:08 PM
Hi... I'm new to the site, but I saw this thread and I thought I would share.
I haven't started testosterone yet, got to love cosmetics! but... Do I pass? :)
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Well...I think you definitely have some masculine attributes, the beard just isn't one of them quite yet. It's definitely a cute attempt though. :P
The haircut is great, I think the glasses really obscure the any feminine or soft aspects of your cheeks and your jaw is good. For a pre-T shot, you're well on your way! Welcome to Susan's cutie :D
I have posted in this thread before, but I have now been on testosterone for four and a half months and I lost a bit of weight, so I wanted to make an update and get some of you guys's opinions. If it helps, I am really young, although I cannot state my exact age on here.
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Quote from: LocustBlotter on November 11, 2013, 11:49:33 PM
I have posted in this thread before, but I have now been on testosterone for four and a half months and I lost a bit of weight, so I wanted to make an update and get some of you guys's opinions. If it helps, I am really young, although I cannot state my exact age on here.
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Since you said you were really young, I would say, you might pass for 11 -12 year old. The last picture (without make up and hairspray or gel or whatever) is your best shot as far as passing. Your hair is great (and enjoy it while you can brother) but the length/style throws me off. Maybe try a different cut and less styled. All of this will matter very little though in a few more months one T. Also, the angles of your shots make it difficult and i find that angle feminizing. it de emphasizes the chin and emphasizes the eyes.
Great job getting on T at such a young age and great job with your weightloss.
Quote from: chuck on November 12, 2013, 12:04:31 AM
Since you said you were really young, I would say, you might pass for 11 -12 year old. The last picture (without make up and hairspray or gel or whatever) is your best shot as far as passing. Your hair is great (and enjoy it while you can brother) but the length/style throws me off. Maybe try a different cut and less styled. All of this will matter very little though in a few more months one T. Also, the angles of your shots make it difficult and i find that angle feminizing. it de emphasizes the chin and emphasizes the eyes.
Great job getting on T at such a young age and great job with your weightloss.
Thank you for your constructive feedback. :)
Also, it's kind of difficult to judge without hearing my voice. I dress very effeminately, so my voice is usually my saving grace when it comes to passing as male.
Quote from: LocustBlotter on November 12, 2013, 12:18:36 AM
Thank you for your constructive feedback. :)
Also, it's kind of difficult to judge without hearing my voice. I dress very effeminately, so my voice is usually my saving grace when it comes to passing as male.
I think Chuck said it all but I just
had to add that I love the clockwork orange outfit! :-D
Quote from: Shaina on November 12, 2013, 12:34:49 AM
I love the clockwork orange outfit! :-D
Aw, thank you. Yeah, I was Alex DeLarge for halloween. :)
LocustBlotter I'd say you pass perfectly on the last pic (not so perfectly in the first two, but more like "almost" in those). You don't look that young to me either but that's maybe because kids in my country grow slower, I'd say you could look as old as 16/17, or as young as 14/15 but definitely not 11/12 in my experience, but again that varies a lot among countries, most american 13/14 year olds look as if they were in their 20's to me xD. Loved the clockwork orange outfit too.
Quote from: Shaina on November 11, 2013, 11:48:57 PM
Well...I think you definitely have some masculine attributes, the beard just isn't one of them quite yet. It's definitely a cute attempt though. :P
The haircut is great, I think the glasses really obscure the any feminine or soft aspects of your cheeks and your jaw is good. For a pre-T shot, you're well on your way! Welcome to Susan's cutie :D
Thank you for being kind. Your words brightened my day.
Thanks for the warm welcome. :D
Ok, so, here's a couple pictures of me. Got nothing fancy going on here, this is just how I generally look on a daily basis. I know I'm far from passing, but I'm not sure what I should do to help with that? I have been told my face is too feminine, and my eyes are too "pretty", and my lips are too pink. XD Curses... And yeah, I know the hair doesn't help, buuuut I refuse to cut it any shorter XD. Suggestions?
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Quote from: ~Kai on November 12, 2013, 06:57:52 PM
Ok, so, here's a couple pictures of me. Got nothing fancy going on here, this is just how I generally look on a daily basis. I know I'm far from passing, but I'm not sure what I should do to help with that? I have been told my face is too feminine, and my eyes are too "pretty", and my lips are too pink. XD Curses... And yeah, I know the hair doesn't help, buuuut I refuse to cut it any shorter XD. Suggestions?
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You pass in the second picture but in the first picture, I think it's your clothing and glasses and how you're leaning that peg you as female. I think darker colored clothes help you pass.
Quote from: ~Kai on November 12, 2013, 06:57:52 PM
Ok, so, here's a couple pictures of me. Got nothing fancy going on here, this is just how I generally look on a daily basis. I know I'm far from passing, but I'm not sure what I should do to help with that? I have been told my face is too feminine, and my eyes are too "pretty", and my lips are too pink. XD Curses... And yeah, I know the hair doesn't help, buuuut I refuse to cut it any shorter XD. Suggestions?
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You're pretty cute Kai, it is what it is, but I second what Malachite said, you could morph into boy-land pretty quickly from where you are right now.
Just wanted to ask about my voice because it's the only thing I feel weird about right now.
http://youtu.be/tbmu_S-WM1w
but for those of you who don't want to/can't watch videos.
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5 months on T. I'm perceived as male in person most of the time. On the phone not so much.
In person, your voice wouldn't give you away at all. On the phone though, like you said, I'd probably be 50/50 if I was on the other line. It sounds deep and masculine, but I've heard cis-females with voices in the same range. Maybe your voice will drop some more in the next few months. :)
Btw, you look great!
Quote from: ~Kai on November 12, 2013, 06:57:52 PM
Ok, so, here's a couple pictures of me. Got nothing fancy going on here, this is just how I generally look on a daily basis. I know I'm far from passing, but I'm not sure what I should do to help with that? I have been told my face is too feminine, and my eyes are too "pretty", and my lips are too pink. XD Curses... And yeah, I know the hair doesn't help, buuuut I refuse to cut it any shorter XD. Suggestions?
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I second what Malachite said, you pass better in the second picture. But, I think it could also be because of how your pose is in that one.
Quote from: rightocaito on November 12, 2013, 09:07:43 PM
Just wanted to ask about my voice because it's the only thing I feel weird about right now.
http://youtu.be/tbmu_S-WM1w
but for those of you who don't want to/can't watch videos.
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5 months on T. I'm perceived as male in person most of the time. On the phone not so much.
Grats with 5 months on T, I think you look great! I will have to watch the video later since youtube does not load well for me since there is a snow storm, so my internet connection is a bit slower now.
Thanks for the input, guys. :) I guess I'll just have to get myself more black hoodies and try to look grumpy all the time. XD
William Wimmer: I say ditch the beard idea, dude! You have masculine features as is and you could pass without. The beard just doesn't work both because it not only looks fake and because you just look too young to have a beard like and it looks unnatural. Also, no matter how great you get that beard looking, it's going to be a tell. No one has a beard like that and then pristine clear skin elsewhere. I barely have any facial hair right now but where I do, there's always a hint of it, even after shaving. Almost like you have slightly darker pores on your face. This is why I shave every single day despite not having much because how little I have shows up and gives me away because it's only in select spots and since I'm nearer 30s than a teenager, it's a tell. You couldn't have a beard like that and not have evidence of shaved off hair around the beard and replicating that is going to be near impossible.
LocustBlotter: No pass on first two pics but a pass on the third. The hair and make up don't work in the first two and would probably have jumped on the hair if it hadn't been for the awesome straggly look in the 3rd one. Keeping it looking more like that is a total pass win, bro. In the first two pics, your face looks too soft.
Kai: No pass in first pic and I can't comment on the 2nd, it's too dark for me to say. It looks slightly more like a pass but then in the dark I can't really see. I'd say if you don't want shorter hair to maybe try having a more middle parting letting hair fall forward without styling up and out on one side as that's a more feminine style. Either both sides held back (probably not advisable) or both sides down.
rightocaito: I can see how there could be misgendering on the phone maybe a 50/50 thing, but in person, no way. Total pass, bro and if you feel like your voice is still dropping, you never know where it'll get to. It's fine where it is right now for in person passing though.
rightocaito, you LOOK very male and are definitely a solid pass in person, though I might not take you for straight (no offense). If you can, I'd say when you're alone try to practice speaking from your diaphragm/belly and really projecting, I bet that would help you achieve a more masculine tone. Use your "outdoor" voice, like if you were in a loud, crowded club or restaurant and really wanted to make yourself heard. Oh, and did I mention that you're handsome too? ;)
One of the things i do in my free time, just wanna share it with u guys, does it look fake ?!!!
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Quote from: jossef-ftm on November 17, 2013, 05:12:44 PM
One of the things i do in my free time, just wanna share it with u guys, does it look fake ?!!!
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Wow, you are a nice looking guy. I wouldnt bat an eye at it, but since you said something, now I see that the beard doesn't appear to be the same shade as your hair.
Ксениа: thank you for the nice words <3
Quote from: Dalex on November 07, 2013, 06:57:55 PM
So! I tried re uploading the video
But, if the sound is still wonky, then here is another
I love the Israel Kamakawiwoʻole version. Keep working on it!
Hey guys. Haven't posted in a while but things are going great for me. If all goes well, I should be living 100% as male and have my name changed come January. I'm about 4.5 months on T. What do you think?
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Loving the buzz cut.
@ Konnor
Very manly looking. I would even say "alpha manly" especially in Your second pic ;). Btw, Konnor/Connor has always been among my favourite names for guys - it has that very manly vibe in it (or someone has just watched too many of "The Highlander"...;) )
@ josef-ftm
Since You asked about beard, I will comment about it only - as for Your overall presentation, so do pass very good!
Now, the beard.. Same usual issue - I seem to pick up clear division-line between Your beard and Your hairless skin. Its not the way it should look - try some "blending" in between, if You know what I mean. Like blurring those two areas instead making them too distinct - "Here... thats my beard. One 1mm further - oh, here its one now..". Also, Your mustache is supposed to connect with Your beard too.
Konnor
Looking good bro, you will extremely well served to get your clothes tailored.
@ Gabrielle, thank you! I was very hesitant to get it cut this short but now I love it!
@ Emily, thanks so much! I'm definitely not an alpha male, more like the smart, quiet guy in the corner haha. But it's good to project an assertive image! Thanks for the name compliment too, I love my name and I'm glad it says "manly" (or Highlander lol)
@ Chuck, thanks man! I didn't end up buying that blazer because of the sleeve length actually, but I do have problems finding well fitting clothes sometimes. Mostly it's just pants. Shirts usually fit and I can get away with the short sizes in suit jackets and blazers. But 30 length pants are usually too long on me still. Cursed with being 5'5"! :P
Quote from: Gabrielle on November 17, 2013, 09:04:12 PM
I love the Israel Kamakawiwoʻole version. Keep working on it!
Thanks :)
rightocaito: Dang dude, you've changed a lot, looking through your old vids. In just 5 months that's impressive, and you certainly haven't seen the last of your changes yet. To me you don't even look like the same person. Your voice is going to get deeper still - I promise - but it sounds male already. I don't know where you live, but it probably isn't some small conservative town. If you lived where I did, there's no way you'd be perceived as anything other than male.
~Kai: Second pic is passable, but if you don't want to cut your hair, you might want to mess it up a bit more. You can get away with looking scruffy as a guy. ;) First pic is a no pass - the shirt and the pose give you away and the glasses don't help either. Sit up straight and glare at that camera, boy :p
LocustBlotter: chuck's right, this picture angle does trans men no favors - try taking one straight-on. That said, you look like a young boy to me in all of the pictures and I don't agree that you only pass on the last one, though it is your best look.
William Wimmer: You look good dude, you'll probably look just as good without the makeup beard, but for mockup purposes it's true, yer a stud :p
mynameisjacob: First time I ever heard anything about plaid shorts being a lesbian thing. That's what I get for living in one of the aforementioned small conservative towns. I like plaid shorts so rock 'em if you do too. With your overall build they look fine. The problems I see in this pic are your posture and your expression. You look uncomfortable and stiff. Cool shirt but consider having someone take a couple inches off the bottom so you don't have to bunch it up at the waist. If you are a plain and simple jeans (or shorts) and T-shirt guy like I am, hemming your shirts to fit your frame works wonders.
Konnor: Congrats, man! You look awesome but you already knew that!
Quote from: MaybeBen on November 17, 2013, 02:12:48 AM
rightocaito, you LOOK very male and are definitely a solid pass in person, though I might not take you for straight (no offense). If you can, I'd say when you're alone try to practice speaking from your diaphragm/belly and really projecting, I bet that would help you achieve a more masculine tone. Use your "outdoor" voice, like if you were in a loud, crowded club or restaurant and really wanted to make yourself heard. Oh, and did I mention that you're handsome too? ;)
I'm not straight so that's okay. haha. thanks for the information. I was just actually wondering if I came off as gay or straight now that I look more masculine. Also, thanks ;)
Quoterightocaito: Dang dude, you've changed a lot, looking through your old vids. In just 5 months that's impressive, and you certainly haven't seen the last of your changes yet. To me you don't even look like the same person. Your voice is going to get deeper still - I promise - but it sounds male already. I don't know where you live, but it probably isn't some small conservative town. If you lived where I did, there's no way you'd be perceived as anything other than male.
Thanks! I should look through my old videos too because right now I don't really feel that big of a change. haha. and Yes, I'm hoping it will get a little deeper!
thanks everyone!
Hey guys! I've been commenting-but mostly lurking :D -in this thread for a little while now. Just wanted to post a picture of myself!
Disclaimer: Though I'm a girl, I dressed as a boy to be my friend Willow's date for a charity Drag event. I really took a lot of the advice you guys offer each other in this thread seriously while dressing and just wanted to see if I did her justice (she looked fab!). I am in no way comparing myself to you guys and only have the best of intentions. However, if anyone finds my posting here inappropriate just let me know and I'll take it down in a jiffy! Thanks a bunch! :angel:
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Quote from: Shaina on November 19, 2013, 11:53:36 PM
Hey guys! I've been commenting-but mostly lurking :D -in this thread for a little while now. Just wanted to post a picture of myself!
Disclaimer: Though I'm a girl, I dressed as a boy to be my friend Willow's date for a charity Drag event. I really took a lot of the advice you guys offer each other in this thread seriously while dressing and just wanted to see if I did her justice (she looked fab!). I am in no way comparing myself to you guys and only have the best of intentions. However, if anyone finds my posting here inappropriate just let me know and I'll take it down in a jiffy! Thanks a bunch! :angel:
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Wow....if I were attracted to men.... LOL
I'd say there's definately passing potential! I'd reccomend unbuttoning the top button because it kind of shows the chest. other than that, you would pass to me. You will definately be passing even more once you get on T :p jk
Quote from: Shaina on November 19, 2013, 11:53:36 PM
Hey guys! I've been commenting-but mostly lurking :D -in this thread for a little while now. Just wanted to post a picture of myself!
Disclaimer: Though I'm a girl, I dressed as a boy to be my friend Willow's date for a charity Drag event. I really took a lot of the advice you guys offer each other in this thread seriously while dressing and just wanted to see if I did her justice (she looked fab!). I am in no way comparing myself to you guys and only have the best of intentions. However, if anyone finds my posting here inappropriate just let me know and I'll take it down in a jiffy! Thanks a bunch! :angel:
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I agree with big boss up there. The chest is the one "give away" but minus that and the perfectly done eyebrows lol I would peg you for a teen boy. Young teens mind you!
Quote from: jossef-ftm on November 17, 2013, 05:12:44 PM
One of the things i do in my free time, just wanna share it with u guys, does it look fake ?!!!
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It dose look fake mostly because the color of the hair is off. My advice is if you are using photoshop take color samples from hair on your head or the eyebrows are good because they more match what face hair is like!
Quote from: Malachite on November 20, 2013, 12:00:36 AM
Wow....if I were attracted to men.... LOL
I'd say there's definately passing potential! I'd reccomend unbuttoning the top button because it kind of shows the chest. other than that, you would pass to me. You will definately be passing even more once you get on T :p jk
Thanks Boss! I really appreciate that, especially coming from you! I'll have to pass on the T though! :P
Unfortunately, my chest just didn't want to behave-it's a lot harder to hide than I thought-especially without a binder!
Quote from: thatboyfresh on November 20, 2013, 12:33:46 AM
I agree with big boss up there. The chest is the one "give away" but minus that and the perfectly done eyebrows lol I would peg you for a teen boy. Young teens mind you!
thatboyfresh (Love that name btw!) Thanks a bunch for the feedback! I tried to fill in my brows but they still looked arched, just thicker! lol
Quote from: Shaina on November 19, 2013, 11:53:36 PM
Hey guys! I've been commenting-but mostly lurking :D -in this thread for a little while now. Just wanted to post a picture of myself!
Disclaimer: Though I'm a girl, I dressed as a boy to be my friend Willow's date for a charity Drag event. I really took a lot of the advice you guys offer each other in this thread seriously while dressing and just wanted to see if I did her justice (she looked fab!). I am in no way comparing myself to you guys and only have the best of intentions. However, if anyone finds my posting here inappropriate just let me know and I'll take it down in a jiffy! Thanks a bunch! :angel:
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Nope. no pass. And judging from your comment, I don't *think* that's an insult. You make an incredibly beautiful girl though.
Quote from: chuck on November 20, 2013, 01:05:59 AM
Nope. no pass. And judging from your comment, I don't *think* that's an insult. You make an incredibly beautiful girl though.
Oh thanks Chuck, that's so sweet of you to say! I have to agree with you, didn't really pass but I tried my best! :P
Quote from: Jack_M on November 17, 2013, 01:53:24 AM
Kai: No pass in first pic and I can't comment on the 2nd, it's too dark for me to say. It looks slightly more like a pass but then in the dark I can't really see. I'd say if you don't want shorter hair to maybe try having a more middle parting letting hair fall forward without styling up and out on one side as that's a more feminine style. Either both sides held back (probably not advisable) or both sides down.
Thanks for your honesty. XP Unfortunately, I seem to have been cursed with a very feminine face. XP Funny though, I always thought I had a rather masculine face before I realized I was trans... now I've realized I really don't. XD As for the second pic... It's probably more of a fluke than anything else. XD I have been trying to figure out something I can do with my hair to make it more passable... but... eh... idk, I like my hair the way it is, I don't really wanna change it. XP I guess I'm just gonna have to wait for T to be able to pass.
Quote from: tvc15 on November 19, 2013, 03:04:30 PM
~Kai: Second pic is passable, but if you don't want to cut your hair, you might want to mess it up a bit more. You can get away with looking scruffy as a guy. ;) First pic is a no pass - the shirt and the pose give you away and the glasses don't help either. Sit up straight and glare at that camera, boy :p
Yes, Sir! XD
Aaaaaaaand, while I'm at it!
Rightocaito - Your voice, I can see how it can be mistaken for over the phone. But, pass in person, definitely!
Konnor - Congrats, dude! That's awesome. ;D Pass, for sure.
Jossef - Kind of hard to tell with the lighting. Maybe it's just my screen but it looks a bit... grey? lol. Unfortunately, I have to say it doesn't really look natural. :P Other than that though, pass.
Shaina - Not bad! :D I'd agree with Boss and Fresh, the only thing that really gives you away is the chest. Other than that, to me you look like you could pass.
Quote from: Shaina on November 19, 2013, 11:53:36 PM
Hey guys! I've been commenting-but mostly lurking :D -in this thread for a little while now. Just wanted to post a picture of myself!
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Oh Gawd, what a darling child! :icon_bunch:
Sorry honey, you'll never cut it as a boy but you are sooooo cute! xox Shan
Hope you don't find my comments offensive but if you do please beat me up I'd love it. :icon_peace:
Quote from: Shantel on November 20, 2013, 09:38:09 AM
Hope you don't find my comments offensive but if you do please beat me up I'd love it. :icon_peace:
Just spank her, lol :).
And Shaina, I hope You had lots of fun :) I dont remember when I was giggling so hard as when I was reading Your post and guys' responses :).
As you can tell I don't generally pass but I was wondering what everyone thinks?
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Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on November 20, 2013, 01:23:37 PM
Just spank her, lol :).
And Shaina, I hope You had lots of fun :) I dont remember when I was giggling so hard as when I was reading Your post and guys' responses :).
I like where this going
Quote from: ~Kai on November 20, 2013, 04:49:25 AM
Shaina - Not bad! :D I'd agree with Boss and Fresh, the only thing that really gives you away is the chest. Other than that, to me you look like you could pass.
Thanks Kai! :D Though not nearly as well as you, especially in your second photo!
Quote from: Shantel on November 20, 2013, 09:38:09 AM
Oh Gawd, what a darling child! :icon_bunch:
Sorry honey, you'll never cut it as a boy but you are sooooo cute! xox Shan
Hope you don't find my comments offensive but if you do please beat me up I'd love it. :icon_peace:
Oh Gosh, thanks Mom! You're so sweet! I could never beat you up but I'm a mean tickler! >:-)
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on November 20, 2013, 01:23:37 PM
Just spank her, lol :).
And Shaina, I hope You had lots of fun :) I dont remember when I was giggling so hard as when I was reading Your post and guys' responses :).
Haha! I'm glad you had fun reading about it as I had lots of fun dressing up! I hope I don't get spanked for it though! lol :icon_redface:
Chuck don't encourage that! Tehe!
Quote from: chuck on November 20, 2013, 11:52:41 PM
I like where this going
You wanna get spanked too? Or would You prefer being strapped to the chair and tickled till You are full of sorry? :P :P :P
Quote from: Wingding on November 20, 2013, 07:04:18 PM
Sorry for the separate post, stupid iPad chrome and it's timing out!
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I liked both your pictures but I'll comment on this one as I can see more of your face!
You have a really cool androgynous look with enough masculine features that you're well on your way to passing! In particular, you have a strong jawline, lean face and a nice haircut. I think your eyes are the only feature that strikes me as feminine but that may be due to the glasses? Either way, nice pics Wingding!
Not sure if voice passes are allowed in here, but I'd like some feedback. I know that I posted a video not long ago, but I'd like to know if I pass when someone hears only my voice.
The reason I ask is because today I've been calling for the first time with customers, and two out of 6 or so referred to me as female. I think due to their very unbiased nature and the fact they can only hear my voice, they are a great way to know my voice passes or not. But apparently it does not. I'm six months on T btw, so I was hoping my voice would pass by now :< I work at a bank, so maybe they don't expect a very young guy to work there and thus refer to me as female? I don't know, but it makes me very dysphoric, so any feedback would be welcome. Do know that my pronounciation is way off because English is not my first language. I may sound differently in my own language.
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Mr. X, in my opinion your voice could really go either way. In person if you look like a guy, I would think nothing of it. Just hearing the voice though, I can see how some might think you were female. It isn't that your voice isn't in the male range, it is more of how you talk. The 2nd half of the clip you sound male to me, whereas in the 1st half, (particularly right at the start) it sounds a bit more feminine... Maybe because you're talking louder and not as "softly" in the 2nd half lol.
Mr X:
You sound male to me. I agree with randomdude5 that you pass more easily in the later half of the clip, where you seem to relax into a slightly deeper tone. I'd think "guy" if I heard you on the phone and you spoke as you did in the clip, so in my opinion your voice passes just fine.
Quote from: Shaina on November 20, 2013, 12:48:30 AM
thatboyfresh (Love that name btw!) Thanks a bunch for the feedback! I tried to fill in my brows but they still looked arched, just thicker! lol
Ah thanks. I mean my eyebrows arch a bit I think but they are more "rectangular" looking. Where as yours are more "triangle" shaped meaning thick at one end and to a point on the other end.
Quote from: Wingding on November 20, 2013, 07:00:38 PM
As you can tell I don't generally pass but I was wondering what everyone thinks?
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I think the biggest thing throwing me off here would be the glasses. The shape of them seem to make you more feminine looking although you do have a pretty angular chin. And the face that they are oval-ly and over-sized makes your face look more slender and petite looking which are more traditionally female traits.
Quote from: Mr.X on November 21, 2013, 11:56:49 AM
Not sure if voice passes are allowed in here, but I'd like some feedback. I know that I posted a video not long ago, but I'd like to know if I pass when someone hears only my voice.
The reason I ask is because today I've been calling for the first time with customers, and two out of 6 or so referred to me as female. I think due to their very unbiased nature and the fact they can only hear my voice, they are a great way to know my voice passes or not. But apparently it does not. I'm six months on T btw, so I was hoping my voice would pass by now :< I work at a bank, so maybe they don't expect a very young guy to work there and thus refer to me as female? I don't know, but it makes me very dysphoric, so any feedback would be welcome. Do know that my pronounciation is way off because English is not my first language. I may sound differently in my own language.
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Your voice sounds male, but the fluctuations in your tone definitely have a female pattern. I use to work as a receptionist and even though my voice is much deeper now, if I tried to imitate my phone greeting I use to use, I would some much more feminine. No doubt your phone voice is probably much higher, and fluctuates even more than your regular voice. You may just have to practice because your voice may not drop much more. Yes, changes in the voice happen for over a year, but most of us have the most dramatic changes within 8 months.
Quote from: Wingding on November 20, 2013, 07:00:38 PM
As you can tell I don't generally pass but I was wondering what everyone thinks?
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I'll be totally honest here, at first glance I assumed you were physically male. I got board-lost and didn't know if I was in FtM or MtF at first lol. So make of that what you will. And this may not be worth anything from a pansexual like me, but I think you're quite attractive. :)
Quote from: Wingding on November 20, 2013, 07:00:38 PM
As you can tell I don't generally pass but I was wondering what everyone thinks?
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I agree with others that your face is quite masculine. The hoodie threw me off though - red/pink with love hearts isn't a traditionally manly look. I also agree that replacing the glasses with some squarer frames might help.
Thanks for the feedback, guys. It is good to know that I do sound male/andro to some people. I must say that today another customer called me a lady, so that's three. No sirs yet and the other customers just didn't refer to me with a genderpronoun thingy, so I don't know what they were thinking. I do notice that it's dragging me down a little. The past few weeks have been so great and I felt so good until this happened.
QuoteNo doubt your phone voice is probably much higher, and fluctuates even more than your regular voice. You may just have to practice because your voice may not drop much more. Yes, changes in the voice happen for over a year, but most of us have the most dramatic changes within 8 months.
I think you are right. I do notice I speak more controlled, softer and a little higher with customers in order to sound friendly. Maybe this is the problem. I do really hope that I get more voice drops because I clearly need it...Do voice drops really mainly happen in the first 8 months? So I can not expect much chance from now on? I would be really sad if this is it.
You sound male for certain to me, Mr. X. I think your "friendly phone voice", theory is a good one as to why they might think you are female.
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I think you are right. I do notice I speak more controlled, softer and a little higher with customers in order to sound friendly. Maybe this is the problem. I do really hope that I get more voice drops because I clearly need it...Do voice drops really mainly happen in the first 8 months? So I can not expect much chance from now on? I would be really sad if this is it.
Check out some forums around here to see the timelines guys give for their voice changes. From my own personal experience and what I've seen from others, after 8 months or so it has pretty much stopped dropping. After that it kind of just levels out. I would guess that you definitely have more changes to look forward to, but I think your issue can be resolved with practice and possibly listening to how guys at your job speak on the phone.
Voices are different for everyone. I'm fairly sure mine has reached around the level it'll stay. It's pretty damn low and lower than a lot of guys I know! Lol. But if I'm shouting I still fear it cracking even though it's been a while.
Wingding, you don't quite pass to me, but I defo see the potential. I think it's a combination of the glasses and hair. I'm assuming that's dyed that way, yeah? Either that or the light is over emphasising ginger, which I've seen happen with friends' pics! Lol. I don't see many guys outside of more Asian (and in the west, more effeminate) looks that have hair dyed to more shocking colours and therefore is more something I associate with girls. And when it's short; lesbians.
Edit: Just gonna, not have photos here anymore. Everyone said I look terrible so... yeah.
Quote from: Kytri on November 24, 2013, 02:42:02 PM
I know I don't generally pass, get called "Ma'am" and "lady" all the time, but I wanted to put up some photos.
1. Eyebrows. They are kinda weird color for a guy and the shape is off too.
2. Color of clothing in the third pic and kittie T-shirt. It is like... guys do wear green, but lime green is not the usual color of choice. Try going for darker shades of green, like moss green, olive, forest green. But... pink cell phone? Seriously?
3. Your accessories in the second pic send a wrong vibe either.
In general, Your best effort was in the first picture, but in all of them I am getting that "lesbian" vibe (especially the shirt pattern in the second pic - it almost screams it - seen it many times before, dear...)... and "lesbian" means "not a guy".
The thing that read female to me the most is face shape, too much baby fat, not enough chin.
The thing I find the most feminising is the eyebrows, like ♡ Emily ♡ mentioned... I don't know if you shape them, but they look too perfect lol.
I actually draw the eyebrows in, it's either that or not have them at all, and I'd rather have eyebrows. :| I could make them chunkier I guess?
Clothes are sort of a problem for me because I like accessories, and I like bright colors and patterns and cute things. I don't want to have to give them up. The phone I would like to replace, it was a gift from my parents, but I don't have the spare money right now.
And I'm not sure what I can do about my face shape. I wouldn't have chosen it if I'd had the choice.
Guh, I shouldn't have bothered posting anything at all. I'm sorry :(
@kytri don't to feel to bad about it, your slowly going toward that step to pass. Your asking for tips and help but i do have to say your last photo your face looks male.
Hey, Kytri, cheer up :) Phone is not such a big issue and You can always replace only the cover. Do You intend to start T injections? That would address the facial shape. If I am not mistaken - we have somehow similar facial features - at least jawline, chin and overall shape. And You know what? With the same features + extra facial muscles You will pass. I know this, because I did (well, I was born that way, but I had very narrow face until it got muscle definition). Btw - one very useful tip is to chew chewing gum - in the longterm it builds up jaw muscle definition and gives more squarer look. Or anything else, which tenses Your facial muscles.
I'm hoping to start T injections eventually. I'm waiting for my therapist to sign off on it before I spend a bunch of money to go see an endocrinologist. I want to be sure they won't turn me away.
Kytri, I am sure You will be fine! :). Apart of extensive cardio programme there are not much options to reduce Your facial fat until You start T, but that does not mean You cannot masculinise Your face by building up muscles. And practising a stern gaze ;)
It's funny you say that because people are always telling me I look really mean.
I will try the gum thing though. I do chew gum pretty often but generally not until my jaw is sore.
For the eyebrows, I don't think they need to be thicker or anything, I just think they look too solid and almost cartoon-like. Do you have either a thin eyebrow pencil or a smaller brush, where you could draw them in one "hair" at a time instead of all in one solid shape? That should give them a more feathered, natural look. It's funny, I NEVER wore makeup as a girl but lately I've been thickening my eyebrows up any time I'm binding and trying to pass. I just take more care with my appearance as a guy.
Quote from: Konnor on November 17, 2013, 09:21:58 PM
Hey guys. Haven't posted in a while but things are going great for me. If all goes well, I should be living 100% as male and have my name changed come January. I'm about 4.5 months on T. What do you think?
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Looking great man. I've been seeing you on here for the past few years and I'm happy you're on T now :)
Whatcha guys think?
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Quote from: Chakra6 on November 25, 2013, 02:59:55 AM
Whatcha guys think?
Well I'm no guy but I think you're passable, and pretty hawt. :)
Quote from: Ashey on November 25, 2013, 10:12:10 AM
Well I'm no guy but I think you're passable, and pretty hawt. :)
I'll second that comment! :)
Quote from: Chakra6 on November 25, 2013, 02:59:55 AM
Whatcha guys think?
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I think you look exactly like someone who used to post on here quite a while ago. :o
But yeah, you pass lol.
If that guy's name was James-Allen then that was me XD changed my name and fell off the face of the earth a while.
Thanks Ashey/Shantel ;)
Quote from: Chakra6 on November 25, 2013, 02:59:55 AM
Whatcha guys think?
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One more thought, I see a young Russell Crowe resemblance, one of my favorite handsome and very manly actors!
I wish all you young folks could get away from the lip piercings, makes me think that you might have gone fishing with me at one time.
Wow, thanks for the compliment! :D I like him a lot too. He is pretty darn good looking. I have always wanted a lip piercing for some reason but it does look hilarious when I'm taking it out. My dad threatened to remove it with a pair of needle nose pliers haha he calls it the fish hook.
Quote from: Chakra6 on November 25, 2013, 03:31:59 PM
Wow, thanks for the compliment! :D I like him a lot too. He is pretty darn good looking. I have always wanted a lip piercing for some reason but it does look hilarious when I'm taking it out. My dad threatened to remove it with a pair of needle nose pliers haha he calls it the fish hook.
Honey, I'm a dad and I so relate to what your dad has said. One of my son's quit in high school, had hair down to his a$$ on one side and buzz on the other. I said, "What the hell?" He said, "Dad I'm going to be a rock star!" :icon_hahano: :D :laugh: Every generation has their thing but eventually we grow up! Love your good looks though! :eusa_clap:
Quote from: Chakra6 on November 25, 2013, 12:39:52 PM
If that guy's name was James-Allen then that was me XD changed my name and fell off the face of the earth a while.
Isn't it funny how we remember faces? I never spoke to you on your old account, and it was quite a while ago, but somehow I just recognized your face and could never put a finger on where that recognition came from.
That aside, you look really good and I think you pass.
Thanks, conformer!! That means a lot coming from a guy as good looking as you!
Chakra, looking good with either hair color. I think I prefer the darker one on you, but you pass either way!
Kytri, I think you look the most masculine in the third pic. Unfortunately, a lot of us have the baby fat issue in our faces, at least pre-T. Not much you can do about it. You might just have to get used to the fact that with your facial shape and clothing choices, most people won't automatically see you as male. Perhaps something you could work on is your voice, speech patterns, and mannerisms? They are important as well and are something you can control. Don't get down on yourself man, you'll get there!!
err... so i made up mind to upload a photo and see where i could improve. i haven't yet tried to pass but i'm hoping to in less than a year, and i probably don't pass. i've never asked anybody either. so what do you think? where can i improve?
*sorry guys i took them down*
oh btw i usually wear glasses outside, but i don't like how i look in them so here i am without glasses. plus i don't have the guts to keep these photos up for long so quick responses will be much appreciated. thanks
Actually I think your face passes pretty well already YB, you've got good thick eyebrows and a wider nose which both help a lot.
@YBtheOutlaw You seem to have strong facial features which help in being viewed as male, your hair also seems to be in a male style. Just based off these photos, I wouldn't think twice seeing you on the street.
now THAT made my day! i always thought i had too much fat in cheeks to pass. don't you think it affects? anyways this is the best feeling i've had in months, to hear that your face passes, just like that! i think i want to throw a party. any more opinions?
btw, thanks for the genes dad (all my facial features come from him) too bad you left out the Y
Quote from: YBtheOutlaw on November 29, 2013, 11:07:29 AM
now THAT made my day! i always thought i had too much fat in cheeks to pass. don't you think it affects? anyways this is the best feeling i've had in months, to hear that your face passes, just like that! i think i want to throw a party. any more opinions?
btw, thanks for the genes dad (all my facial features come from him) too bad you left out the Y
At least in America, lots of guys have some fat in their cheeks nowadays. Your other features balance it out so it doesn't seem to affect in your face passing, at least based on the photos you posted. It's not just your nose and eyebrows like BrotherBen pointed out, your lips seem to be a smoother sort of shape, rather than the heart-shaped lips which are often associated with females.
And, you did say in another post that you passed just recently on the bus, so it's not just us here being too easy on you :)
Yeah, it is true that the fat in cheeks is feminising but it depends on proportions. If you had that in your face and then you were a twig elsewhere then maybe lol. And you also look quite young and younger guys do have that so I say pass.
I really only have my profile picture... Do y'think I'd pass (minus the voice)
Okay.. D: Here we go. I would like to say that I am older than I look, but, that would be a no.
I'm sorry that the pic is sideways </3 Do I pass as a male?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2FB2qrlg&hash=a84c0722cf9c47ffadaf0788e6f484844112a7e3)
I think that my hair color might actually compliment my masculine features, opinion on that, too?
I have a binder, but otherwise pre-everything.
*Stumbles into the thread*
Ok, guess I just have two things to ask here. How can some of ya'll be so brave to post your pic online? (Awesome job/congrats btw) I'm just curious because I worry if I was to post mine here that someone might recognize me and then some. Correct me if I'm wrong but, it's post your pic at our own risk here right?
Quote from: Shana-chan on November 30, 2013, 03:36:25 AM
*Stumbles into the thread*
Ok, guess I just have two things to ask here. How can some of ya'll be so brave to post your pic online? (Awesome job/congrats btw) I'm just curious because I worry if I was to post mine here that someone might recognize me and then some. Correct me if I'm wrong but, it's post your pic at our own risk here right?
I'm full time and don't really care what people think, but if I'd been posting before coming out and someone asked why I was dressed as a girl in pics they'd found online...I'd ask them what they were doing lurking on trans support forums, is there something that they need to talk about?!? :P
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Quote from: Kytri on November 24, 2013, 02:42:02 PM
I know I don't generally pass, get called "Ma'am" and "lady" all the time, but I wanted to put up some photos.
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The sad thing is I actually prefer an androgynous appearance, so I'm not concerned with looking super masculine, but it would be nice if I got read as male every once in a while.
Edit: also this is a preemptive "I know the purple hair is feminizing but I like it, so it's staying." before people suggest I dye it back to its natural color.
I see a guy... :)
@AlexanderMiles from that picture, I'd say you'd pass as a very young boy, like 13 ish.
Quote from: Shantel on November 25, 2013, 06:16:53 PM
Honey, I'm a dad and I so relate to what your dad has said. One of my son's quit in high school, had hair down to his a$$ on one side and buzz on the other. I said, "What the hell?" He said, "Dad I'm going to be a rock star!" :icon_hahano: :D :laugh: Every generation has their thing but eventually we grow up! Love your good looks though! :eusa_clap:
@Gentish Omg, you're Auntie Shan's son ;D Anyways, it's kind of hard to tell in the photo, but you are really flat which def helps. Your face could go either way for me, though it's a little hard to tell with your hair covering part of your face (like the color btw). If things are going well, you'd also pass as a young male, also around 13ish. If you pluck your eyebrows, I'd say you'd pass better if you didn't pluck. The eyebrow in the picture looks a little thin and manicured. You also might want to check out shirts with collar sizing, because the collar on your shirt is too big for your neck, so it makes you look a lot smaller and delicate than you would with a properly fitting collared shirt. I know it's a tough find for small guys, but it would be worth the effort if you wear that style often.
Quote from: LearnedHand on November 30, 2013, 08:03:21 AM
@AlexanderMiles from that picture, I'd say you'd pass as a very young boy, like 13 ish.
@Gentish Omg, you're Auntie Shan's son ;D Anyways, it's kind of hard to tell in the photo, but you are really flat which def helps. Your face could go either way for me, though it's a little hard to tell with your hair covering part of your face (like the color btw). If things are going well, you'd also pass as a young male, also around 13ish. If you pluck your eyebrows, I'd say you'd pass better if you didn't pluck. The eyebrow in the picture looks a little thin and manicured. You also might want to check out shirts with collar sizing, because the collar on your shirt is too big for your neck, so it makes you look a lot smaller and delicate than you would with a properly fitting collared shirt. I know it's a tough find for small guys, but it would be worth the effort if you wear that style often.
Haha Henry you're a riot! :icon_hahano: But of course you're all my kids! :)
Gentish does look like a young gent and your assessment is much better than I'm capable of. The fact that so many FtM's look so young now is attributable to having been flooded with female hormones and involved in the usual female socialization until this point, that will indeed change in time for those under the influence of testosterone and the youthful appearance will diminish although I'd consider it a blessing to look youthful as long as possible because take it from me, the years whip by rather rapidly and take their toll on one's looks.
Quote from: LearnedHand on November 30, 2013, 08:03:21 AM
@AlexanderMiles from that picture, I'd say you'd pass as a very young boy, like 13 ish.
@Gentish Omg, you're Auntie Shan's son ;D Anyways, it's kind of hard to tell in the photo, but you are really flat which def helps. Your face could go either way for me, though it's a little hard to tell with your hair covering part of your face (like the color btw). If things are going well, you'd also pass as a young male, also around 13ish. If you pluck your eyebrows, I'd say you'd pass better if you didn't pluck. The eyebrow in the picture looks a little thin and manicured. You also might want to check out shirts with collar sizing, because the collar on your shirt is too big for your neck, so it makes you look a lot smaller and delicate than you would with a properly fitting collared shirt. I know it's a tough find for small guys, but it would be worth the effort if you wear that style often.
Thanks! Here is a picture with more of my face exposed. (Sorry, I don't usually take pictures that way!)
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I have a nasty habit of biting my cheeks in photos to suggest a more masculine facial structure D: That is also the flattest I have ever been, considering how badly my binder fits. (My waist is so curvy that it hangs, and allows my chest to shift uncomfortably).
I have never tampered with my eyebrows, maybe once a few years ago.
I have unusually long arms, which makes it kind of hard to find shirts that fit in the sleeves and collar, without getting them specifically tailored. Thanks again for the constructive criticism!
Do i pass ??? i cut my hair i wanna be a boy i wanna be a boy i wanna be a boy! !! !
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So, I decided to cut my hair a bit shorter and... er, well... I *think* I pass better than I did in the last pics. :laugh: Opinions?
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Gentish, I think you have the look of young boy but the hair colour throws me back to girl. I just don't see non Asian guys with unnatural hair colours. I know a ton of girls but no guys, so for me, I wouldn't say it helps you and more the opposite tbh.
Mcrkillme, lose the glasses. They're way too big and accentuate a smaller, more feminine head size and shape. Otherwise you look like a young boy.
Kaidan, I'd say closer. First pic looks better but I'd suggest roughing up your hair, maybe having a more layered, rough cut look than perfectly straight cut across. More surfer than groomed.
Quote from: Jack_M on November 29, 2013, 09:13:44 PM
Yeah, it is true that the fat in cheeks is feminising but it depends on proportions. If you had that in your face and then you were a twig elsewhere then maybe lol. And you also look quite young and younger guys do have that so I say pass.
no i have fair amount of fat in the rest of my body. so that's it? my face passes?!! you have no idea how thrilled i am. thanks guys, thanks to all who commented.
then, since i'm not too happy with my looks with glasses on, what kind of glasses do you think would fit me? my current ones are blue half framed rectangular. maybe its not just the glasses, but the fact that you get distracted from my eyes when i'm wearing glasses, highlighting the roundness in cheeks and the earrings (for those who know, mom changed the plans of getting new ones as the current ones didnt cause irritation again. so im stuck with the flowers)
Gentish: The bangs seem feminine to me, not so much the colour (it isn't unusual around here for guys to dye their hair), but the asymetric cut. Otherwise you pass to me as a young-ish boy.
mcrkillme: As others have said, the glasses aren't doing you any favours. They make you look tiny.
Kaiden Liam: You look very much like my cousin. Again, I'd have to agree with the others, the neatly groomed look doesn't really help at that length.
Here's a couple of me, what do you guys think?
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and one where I try to be less grumpy looking:
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(Also known as the '[legal name], you're in public, try to look less murderous!' expression.)
AlexW I don't know why but these 2 pictures pass much better than your profile pic.
Kaiden, I think you could pass as a guy with a rocker/punk style.
2 months on gel, or maybe a little longer, havent really been counting haha
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Quote from: Jared on December 03, 2013, 07:06:51 AM
AlexW I don't know why but these 2 pictures pass much better than your profile pic.
I agree and I'm thinking it might be the cut/neckline of the top he is wearing in the profile pic?
Gentish: I like the attitude you seem to display in the picture. I see an androgynous boy. The highlights and longer hair seem to make you look younger (although I don't know your exact age and what you're going for).
Kaiden: Looking good there! Digging the length of your hair, I think it's a cool style. Perhaps a more layered look will help you pass even better.
AlexW: Love the second picture, totally pass!
skakid: The plaid looks really good on you. First picture seems to pass better, might be the way your hair is sitting. Maybe try growing bangs?
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When I was in Florida about a month ago, all but one person thought I was male and I was so happy since I didn't think I actually looked passable since I'm pre-everything.
kaidenliam - no pass to me in the pics but you're close... it's the hair
alexw - pass to me in 1st pic but not 2nd
skakid - agreed with beaver, better pass in first pic
Az56 - not surprised at all, you pass very well as a young teenage guy
Quote from: Az56 on December 08, 2013, 12:35:01 AM
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When I was in Florida about a month ago, all but one person thought I was male and I was so happy since I didn't think I actually looked passable since I'm pre-everything.
*swoons* :embarrassed:
lexical -- Thank you.
Ashey -- Heh... :)
Quote from: Az56 on December 08, 2013, 03:37:58 PM
Ashey -- Heh... :)
I wouldn't mind if you posted more pics... ;)
I feel I need to do something with my hair to pass better. I recently had it cut shorter, but I still don't know what to do with my hair. I don't want super short hair, maybe just a bit shorter. What do you all think? Or do I pass alright as it is?
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@Jacob. I think a bit shorter would help. Maybe something like this? http://fashionandhairstyles.com/how-to-make-mens-hair-styles/medium-shaggy-hairstyles-2013/ (I hope the link lands on the photo i was thinking of)
Quote from: LearnedHand on December 10, 2013, 07:29:32 AM
@Jacob. I think a bit shorter would help. Maybe something like this? http://fashionandhairstyles.com/how-to-make-mens-hair-styles/medium-shaggy-hairstyles-2013/ (I hope the link lands on the photo i was thinking of)
I like that one, thanks :) It doesnt seem too different from what I have currently either, just shorter. Thankyou :D
Quote from: gentle on October 19, 2013, 06:30:35 AM
I made sort of a timeline of pictures of me from 2005 to now. The very crappy one at the lower right is my body on a good day with clothes that fit. I just colored on my face because it looked rather silly. I feel like my face passes but my body shape doesn't. I am kind of fat at the moment.
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ur face and body passes to me. infact u resemble a cis straight guy I had sex with a month ago and he was hot.
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Don't know how well I pass in my fancy clothes. P.S. I know the jacket may look girly...that's because the only one that fit was a women's jacket. Only cost two bucks though. I hope to find a men's for a nice price someday.
^ You pass fine in the suit :)
The first pic is of me one week on T and the second pick is a month ago...I think i am going to cut my hair like that again but the spacers never helped me...at least i dont think so.
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Photo doesnt work jesse
Quote from: jesse-adam on December 11, 2013, 09:24:00 PM
The first pic is of me one week on T and the second pick is a month ago...I think i am going to cut my hair like that again but the spacers never helped me...at least i dont think so.
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I think you pass well in both pics. I prefer the first though, because the hat makes you look much younger.
I happened to look slightly decent today so I snapped *GASP* two pictures.
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/bddc18fb4b7f047d389a93fbc55d440f/tumblr_mxy42geOb61rhq6who1_1280.jpg)
I accidentally parted my hair in the Commander Handsome/Erwin Smith way and now I'm trying to disguise it.
For some reason I have started to like my eyebrows... :D
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/90173aab2a0ce76a497420a2cbaf2403/tumblr_mxy42geOb61rhq6who2_1280.jpg)
Every self-respecting Finn has a Moomin mug! Mine has Groke on it.
Ahahahahahaha, I so do NOT look like my age. 23 yeah right, more like 13.
Fun fact: I have no idea if I pass IRL or not because Finnish lacks gender-specific third person pronouns and we don't use any equivalents for "sir" or "ma'am" so it's kinda difficult. |D
Not that I care if I pass or not because I'm a self-aware douche who knows he's a guy, hurr durr.
Quote from: Tossu-sama on December 17, 2013, 04:18:14 AM
I happened to look slightly decent today so I snapped *GASP* two pictures.
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/bddc18fb4b7f047d389a93fbc55d440f/tumblr_mxy42geOb61rhq6who1_1280.jpg)
I accidentally parted my hair in the Commander Handsome/Erwin Smith way and now I'm trying to disguise it.
For some reason I have started to like my eyebrows... :D
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/90173aab2a0ce76a497420a2cbaf2403/tumblr_mxy42geOb61rhq6who2_1280.jpg)
Every self-respecting Finn has a Moomin mug! Mine has Groke on it.
Ahahahahahaha, I so do NOT look like my age. 23 yeah right, more like 13.
Fun fact: I have no idea if I pass IRL or not because Finnish lacks gender-specific third person pronouns and we don't use any equivalents for "sir" or "ma'am" so it's kinda difficult. |D
Not that I care if I pass or not because I'm a self-aware douche who knows he's a guy, hurr durr.
You could easily be taken for my brother as we share some basic facial similarities, I come from Norwegian/Finnish stock.
Tossu-sama, there is nothing remotely female about you to be honest.
Jesse, I think you would pass very well without the hat. Something about it feminizes your features, IMO - maybe it's just that it makes you look younger. I still would assume you're cisgender, though, to be honest.
assorted_human, you look great. I wouldn't have noticed it's a women's jacket either if you hadn't said anything.
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Convinced I still look female and it doesn't help that the unsupportive people in my family say I don't pass even with my deep voice and broad build, lol.
Quote from: DeclanQ on December 17, 2013, 11:36:00 PM
Tossu-sama, there is nothing remotely female about you to be honest.
Jesse, I think you would pass very well without the hat. Something about it feminizes your features, IMO - maybe it's just that it makes you look younger. I still would assume you're cisgender, though, to be honest.
assorted_human, you look great. I wouldn't have noticed it's a women's jacket either if you hadn't said anything.
(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1471193_239658419535284_1606854690_n.jpg)
Convinced I still look female and it doesn't help that the unsupportive people in my family say I don't pass even with my deep voice and broad build, lol.
u look male to me and an attractive one too.
DCQ: Don't pay your family any mind. Some people even those we want and need to feel excepted by can't deal with the change. You pass to me. It sucks to have an unsupportive family, I hope things better for you in that department.
jesse-adam: I second the notion about the hat. You do pass well without it.
Hi, I'm pretty damn ugly so I hope you're not blinded by my face......
Just that I wonder if I would pass? I don't got out a lot and tend to hide in my house away from the world.... So I don't know if I would...
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And well, since it's rude to post without leaving some words for others, I'll add a few words... :)
Tossu-Sama: You definitely do look like a dude, I cannot pick out anything feminine on you. (nothing wrong with Erwin hair!)
DCQ: You look good and male to me! I like the haircut too.
Quote from: Syn on December 23, 2013, 07:02:49 AM
Hi, I'm pretty damn ugly so I hope you're not blinded by my face......
Just that I wonder if I would pass? I don't got out a lot and tend to hide in my house away from the world.... So I don't know if I would...
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I certainly wouldn't call you ugly syn. And I'd say pass at least from this angle, you look a lot like my male cousin!
I posted here a bit ago but I've changed a lot since then. I'm pre-everything.
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Jesse-adam: Looking good! You look young but pass. I concur with what others are saying with the hat. I get that it's the style to wear them high but we do tend to have smaller heads and that style makes the guys with big heads look like they have smaller heads and I find it makes small headed people look ridiculous! Like someone with a tiny neck wearing a regular sized tie when a skinny tie would do them so many favours! My two cents re. caps: curved bill hats on the forehead or even backwards, but avoid wearing them high or flat bills. As for spacers - it's up to you but for me I lean towards it being better without - but again, that's my two cents.
Tossu-sama: Passing like a boss, bro! And yeah you have good eyebrows. Mine are starting to fill in but annoy me so colour me jealous!
DCQ: Your family suffer from severe sight and hearing issues, yeah? Nothing female there at all, mate!
Syn: if someone can beat me with the same ugly stick you think you got hit with I'd be very grateful! I think you look like a cute, young lad. You have a nice, friendly, approachable face too. I say total pass, like no hint otherwise for me. Maybe a little young so depending on your actual age that might be an issue but otherwise, no worries, bud!
Nicotpe: The last pic mostly but the first two not so much. I think the colour glasses and the earing(s) throws me towards female but the last shows potential and I think it's because the colour and earing is less evident. Oh, and I tend to find that glasses with thick shaped sides look more feminising. That's what I found at least when I was trying to find glasses many moons ago.
Recent pics of me hopefully gonna start T in February ;D
Can kinda see some of my upper lip fuzz
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Hoping to drop weight but overall likemy shoulders
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My ex-girlfriend and I a photo where I look way younger than I actually am lol
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Nicotpe: I say you pass best in the last pic...not sure way
Syn: You look pretty good definitely would register male if I saw you on the street
DCQ: Love the hair and sideburns male all the way!
Maximusloverus: Awesome foundations there, bro. Those shoulders! Dayum! T is gonna work wonders for ya! :-)
Quote from: Jack_M on December 25, 2013, 12:05:07 PM
Maximusloverus: Awesome foundations there, bro. Those shoulders! Dayum! T is gonna work wonders for ya! :-)
Thanks I think my shoulders are the only part of my body that I take pride in right now. They definitely help me pass a lot. :)
Do I Pass?
Hello, i'm new here. my name is Abrisam. you can call me Sam.
i ain't on T yet. but i adapt to dress, think, and act like a man. :)
i'm losing 6kg of my weight. so it really helped my face and my body shape.
my pimples helped me to look lil bit manly.
i want to tell my Dad first before start using T.
sooo... how do i look?
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-sOEatZRV4iM/Ur0m5TQ8ibI/AAAAAAAAABM/XzKOG9ypLSQ/s713-no/20131215_234934.jpg)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1030.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy370%2Fambies5%2FIMG_20131123_162932.jpg&hash=559eb70cdeca5f9f1ab508e483b4d13463ea6e21) (http://s1030.photobucket.com/user/ambies5/media/IMG_20131123_162932.jpg.html)
do i look pass?
SO MANY FINE LOOKING MENNNNN
y'all pass like the time between christmas and new years. (was that bad or was that bad!)
I've got a question, though! I recently ordered some "unisex" glasses and received them, but I'm not sure if I look more masculine with or without them! Can someone help me out?
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/b2bed2d9122d2465d03445c026af45c5/tumblr_myi890vNKn1qlnlyzo1_400.jpg)
P.S. - Sorry for the dumb face in the second picture and the messy hair. Bedhead, heh.
Have a great day!
That was a pretty awful joke but I had a little giggle XP
Anyway! Glasses are great, I say both looks work for you, glasses may make you look a tad more masculine though.
I'm actually going to be doing the same soon enough glasses wise, although I don't think I can do those awesome thicker rims like you! I may go totally rimless.
Quote from: NXTransit on December 28, 2013, 12:50:24 AM
SO MANY FINE LOOKING MENNNNN
y'all pass like the time between christmas and new years. (was that bad or was that bad!)
I've got a question, though! I recently ordered some "unisex" glasses and received them, but I'm not sure if I look more masculine with or without them! Can someone help me out?
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/b2bed2d9122d2465d03445c026af45c5/tumblr_myi890vNKn1qlnlyzo1_400.jpg)
P.S. - Sorry for the dumb face in the second picture and the messy hair. Bedhead, heh.
Have a great day!
I'd say yu look more masculine w/o the glasses.
Quote from: ajayjo on December 27, 2013, 11:29:21 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1030.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy370%2Fambies5%2FIMG_20131123_162932.jpg&hash=559eb70cdeca5f9f1ab508e483b4d13463ea6e21) (http://s1030.photobucket.com/user/ambies5/media/IMG_20131123_162932.jpg.html)
do i look pass?
I'd say you pass, but what got my attention were your eyes. From what i see here,i believe some random person on the street will be none the wiser and wont question it.
Quote from: samsj on December 27, 2013, 01:09:42 AM
Do I Pass?
Hello, i'm new here. my name is Abrisam. you can call me Sam.
i ain't on T yet. but i adapt to dress, think, and act like a man. :)
i'm losing 6kg of my weight. so it really helped my face and my body shape.
my pimples helped me to look lil bit manly.
i want to tell my Dad first before start using T.
sooo... how do i look?
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-sOEatZRV4iM/Ur0m5TQ8ibI/AAAAAAAAABM/XzKOG9ypLSQ/s713-no/20131215_234934.jpg)
Sam, you look good, and if this is pre-T, im confident without a shodow of a doubt that you will be more than ok look wise for your face.
Quote from: maximusloverus on December 25, 2013, 07:45:53 AM
Recent pics of me hopefully gonna start T in February ;D
Can kinda see some of my upper lip fuzz
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi845.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fab20%2Fmaximusloverus%2F20131114_041913_zpsfe18afe1.jpg&hash=57f0939e42a08053a4380f9401d3d1ed494476c4) (http://s845.photobucket.com/user/maximusloverus/media/20131114_041913_zpsfe18afe1.jpg.html)
Hoping to drop weight but overall likemy shoulders
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi845.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fab20%2Fmaximusloverus%2F20131222_134608_zps4e9da724.jpg&hash=366a9aaf1423b996678f2aa74b11d94fe89b37b4) (http://s845.photobucket.com/user/maximusloverus/media/20131222_134608_zps4e9da724.jpg.html)
My ex-girlfriend and I a photo where I look way younger than I actually am lol
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi845.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fab20%2Fmaximusloverus%2F20131031_200049_zpsdb7e2aa0.jpg&hash=0b6bcbd85996b7667a132a97bb4aeea4d1d14984) (http://s845.photobucket.com/user/maximusloverus/media/20131031_200049_zpsdb7e2aa0.jpg.html)
Nicotpe: I say you pass best in the last pic...not sure way
Syn: You look pretty good definitely would register male if I saw you on the street
DCQ: Love the hair and sideburns male all the way!
Looking great, and the last pic is my fav too, and the reason why for me and possibly others is that you are smiling and you look incredibly happy in it.
Quote from: NXTransit on December 28, 2013, 12:50:24 AM
SO MANY FINE LOOKING MENNNNN
y'all pass like the time between christmas and new years. (was that bad or was that bad!)
I've got a question, though! I recently ordered some "unisex" glasses and received them, but I'm not sure if I look more masculine with or without them! Can someone help me out?
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/b2bed2d9122d2465d03445c026af45c5/tumblr_myi890vNKn1qlnlyzo1_400.jpg)
P.S. - Sorry for the dumb face in the second picture and the messy hair. Bedhead, heh.
Have a great day!
Definitely looking more masculine with the glasses, but you pass either way.
@SmokeSignalsWouldBeBetter: woah I like your username :D sorry but I don't think you pass yet but your face has many masculine features, maybe with shorter hair you would pass really easily. I hope I didn't sound like a douche, most of us can't pass with long hair pe-T, I also didn't ;)
Thanks but I cannot do T because of health reasons.
I am planning on getting my hair a bit shorter but I really don't want to cut it all off...oh well.
Sorry for the second post. I guess that is upsetting because I've really only been doing all my workouts and pre-surgery and clothing stuff for a month now. But if you have any not super super super short hair style suggestions I guess I'm open. Since I can't ever do T. I just have to work out and get the top surgery and wear the clothes. Thanks for the honesty though.
IMO, a short haircut will make it harder for you to pass. Usually that helps but I don't think it will in your case; certainly did not help me at all. The piercings and eye makeup don't help in my personal opinion. I haven't seen guys with ear piercings like that unless they dress alternative; you don't appear to. Do you have any pics with no eye makeup? You appear to be wearing some. You might want a second opinion about testosterone too; I can't personally think of any health issues that would mean you can't go on it but I could be wrong.
I also second getting another opinion on the testosterone if that's something you would be interested in, I think there are people here who have health problems that they didn't think would allow them to be on T, but they did.
To be brutally honest, I think the piercings, makeup and jewellery don't really help your passing, nor does the cut of the brown t-shirt, or how low the red shirt is buttoned. Men don't normally wear them unbuttoned that low unless they have a t-shirt beneath it. I would try changing your hairstyle too, at least to something with a fringe (bangs?) because our hair lines is often a give away too.
Eyemakeup was actually because, as I said, I am trying to ease myself into things, I've literally been trying to live 24/7 like this for a few weeks. Yes, I am alternative, if that's what you want to call it. I will not remove piercings because I love them, I respect that this is something you don't think is very masculine but I think anyone can have them regardless of their gender and have it be suitable if that is their style. These are piercings I have had for years, I love them, they mean something to me.
The necklace I wear is unisex, it isn't going anywhere either because it also has personal significance. Hate to break it to you but men also wear jewelry, I don't plan on being an ultra "macho" man, I am short, petite built, toned but I will probably always look a little feminine and that's ok with me.
As for the testosterone - You may have not heard of a medical reason to NOT have T but I have 1 autoimmune disease (of three and if one is thrown off they all are and this could incapacitate/kill me) that would be severely worsened by the introduction of T into my system.
As for any further photos -- I had initially had a positive opinion of this forum until I saw the responses. People have alternative styles and differing opinions and that's totally cool but it really seems like there is a lack of open-mindedness on this forum for what actually defines "a man" or what is "male".
I will be taking my leave as I do not feel like this is the place for me. Good luck to all of you on your journeys though.
Cheers.
Hi SmokeSignals, there's room for you here on the forum. We have a "non-transitioning" board that also has a passing thread (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,153655.0.html), where you don't have to worry about people telling you to get on T or not. There's also someone else there who's not on T for medical reasons.
I haven't seen your photo since it looks like you removed the post, but sometimes to pass as male we tend to go uber-macho male to get people who aren't aware of the gender spectrum to see us as male. Wear whatever makes you comfortable and happy, just sometimes non-TG/allies won't see us the way we view ourselves, but you're here to please yourself, not others. :)
Quote from: SmokeSignalsWouldBeBetter on December 28, 2013, 11:21:42 PM
Eyemakeup was actually because, as I said, I am trying to ease myself into things, I've literally been trying to live 24/7 like this for a few weeks. Yes, I am alternative, if that's what you want to call it. I will not remove piercings because I love them, I respect that this is something you don't think is very masculine but I think anyone can have them regardless of their gender and have it be suitable if that is their style. These are piercings I have had for years, I love them, they mean something to me.
The necklace I wear is unisex, it isn't going anywhere either because it also has personal significance. Hate to break it to you but men also wear jewelry, I don't plan on being an ultra "macho" man, I am short, petite built, toned but I will probably always look a little feminine and that's ok with me.
As for the testosterone - You may have not heard of a medical reason to NOT have T but I have 1 autoimmune disease (of three and if one is thrown off they all are and this could incapacitate/kill me) that would be severely worsened by the introduction of T into my system.
As for any further photos -- I had initially had a positive opinion of this forum until I saw the responses. People have alternative styles and differing opinions and that's totally cool but it really seems like there is a lack of open-mindedness on this forum for what actually defines "a man" or what is "male".
I will be taking my leave as I do not feel like this is the place for me. Good luck to all of you on your journeys though.
Cheers.
Hi SmokeSignals,
I don't think anyone meant any offense. It's not that alternative or less masculine styles aren't liked here. It's more that those styles don't help most guys pass. The aim of this thread is for people to post photos for honest feedback to aid in passing. And unless someone passes really well already, makeup, jewelry, and certain clothing cuts and styles give off female cues. That's all people seem to be saying.
I think suggestions were made for a second opinion on T because nobody realized how serious your condition was.
QuotePeople have alternative styles and differing opinions and that's totally cool but it really seems like there is a lack of open-mindedness on this forum for what actually defines "a man" or what is "male".
I think you may be misreading the intent here. People are commenting from a purely visual passing standpoint. A cis guy could wear all that stuff and still pass. But it usually doesn't help trans guys who aren't already passing really well. That's all.
And we have a wide range of expression here. I'd encourage you to check out our Non-transitioning board (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/board,487.0.html), Non-op board (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/board,315.0.html) and Androgyne board (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/board,57.0.html). And you'll see that we do support everyone. Not that you're not transitioning, but there are people there who face similar challenges of not being on T, etc.
Edit: Just saw that LearnedHand posted those boards ahead of me. :laugh:
SmokeSignals, you're welcome here. We have room for everyone whatever their expression.
Quote from: SmokeSignalsWouldBeBetter on December 28, 2013, 11:21:42 PM
Eyemakeup was actually because, as I said, I am trying to ease myself into things, I've literally been trying to live 24/7 like this for a few weeks. Yes, I am alternative, if that's what you want to call it. I will not remove piercings because I love them, I respect that this is something you don't think is very masculine but I think anyone can have them regardless of their gender and have it be suitable if that is their style. These are piercings I have had for years, I love them, they mean something to me.
The necklace I wear is unisex, it isn't going anywhere either because it also has personal significance. Hate to break it to you but men also wear jewelry, I don't plan on being an ultra "macho" man, I am short, petite built, toned but I will probably always look a little feminine and that's ok with me.
As for the testosterone - You may have not heard of a medical reason to NOT have T but I have 1 autoimmune disease (of three and if one is thrown off they all are and this could incapacitate/kill me) that would be severely worsened by the introduction of T into my system.
As for any further photos -- I had initially had a positive opinion of this forum until I saw the responses. People have alternative styles and differing opinions and that's totally cool but it really seems like there is a lack of open-mindedness on this forum for what actually defines "a man" or what is "male".
I will be taking my leave as I do not feel like this is the place for me. Good luck to all of you on your journeys though.
Cheers.
I'm sorry if my post contributed at all to you feeling that way; that wasn't my intention. There is a thread for if you want general compliments, but this is the "do I pass?" thread in which I would hope we're all honest with each other, since it's not helpful to tell someone they pass when they're getting ma'am'd at every corner. We give each other suggestions here.
From the two pictures you posted, you did not appear to have an alternative style. I didn't say you're not alternative, just that you didn't seem like you were. I have no issue with piercings and jewelry and eye makeup, it was just my personal opinion that they feminized your outfits in the pictures you posted. Also didn't know about your reasons for not going on testosterone - that's why I just suggested a second opinion instead of saying "are you kidding?? Everyone can go on it!!"
If you don't want advice on passing, this is really not the thread for you. There are better threads for that. I wouldn't judge the rest of the forum just by a few replies you didn't appreciate. :-\ But nobody said you're not a man, or that you're not manly enough, etc.
ITT: people asking for advice and getting angry when they get it and they don't like it \o/ its "do i pass?" not "Coddle me"
edit: The guys that replied gave an honest opinion, they werent rude, they werent nasty, they gave fair advice, the only problem i can see is the above.
Quote from: geek on December 29, 2013, 12:58:58 AM
ITT: people asking for advice and getting angry when they get it and they don't like it \o/ its "do i pass?" not "Coddle me"
This is why I've always thought this thread was a bad idea. Too much potential for hurt feelings from others in the community. I've said it before and I'll say it again, people know if they pass. Society tells you every time you step foot out the door.
People here just try to offer helpful suggestions to those who don't pass. It's nothing personal...just advice that someone can take or leave.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi911.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac319%2Flennonfan1981%2Fhandletruth.jpg&hash=8286e5772ad44e64460ac3b5e8ea1d5be146a821)
I think the title really says it all. "Do I pass?" Not, "Compliment me!"
I'm stealth in every day life. There's very few people I can ask for advice whenever I got a new style of binder or outfit I was unsure of. Also, in here I trust people to be a bit more honest and I at least try to give honest feedback with ways to help people pass better if they don't already. Sometimes it can be like the "Does my butt look big in this?" idea in real life situations. If I ask someone who knows I'm trans if an outfit works, they could well be worried about offending me and just say it does...and then I might end up making a fool of myself. That's happened to me with a friend telling me a sweater looked great but I wouldn't wear it in public until I checked in here to make sure it wasn't too tight. I was trying to find a style that more was who I am and stop hiding under hoodies and baggy clothing because that's not my preferred style. I was looking to adapt my style to be more banana republic like, so that when I finally got the top surgery I just got, I could straight away be the man I want to be and not be in the changing process where I was still wearing baggy clothing to not draw attention. And thanks to advice and assurances here I made that transition. So on Monday when I go back to work, I can wear what I like with my new male chest without it drawing unwanted attention.
Dysphoria for trans individuals can be just like dysphoria for anorexics. An anorexic sees fat on what everyone else sees as a far too skinny, sick individual. There's times where I feel like I put on clothes and to me it looks like a girl in boy's clothing, especially with something new. Everyone else just sees a man, but our brains can do the most messed up things to our own perceptions.
Eventually we get to a point where we know full well that we pass, and that's when the badass thread gets used. But here, it's been a good place to get advice we maybe don't have in everyday life or advice we can trust as much.
Honesty has been important for me and many others here, so it's important we don't get side tracked on the reaction of one for the importance of the majority.
Sorry if I offended you SmokeSignals, I really didn't want to. I personally like your style with your hair too, it's just not the best way to pass. And I understand you can't get on T, that's ok, probably you know better than anyone here what can you do and what can't. And I really mean this, not being sarcastic.
If you google some hairstyle for men with longer hair I'm sure you can find one that suits you and still long(er).
I too apologise if I offended you with my post, perhaps we both misinterpreted what this is about. I assumed that you, like the other guys here wanted constructive criticism on what might help them pass better, from the first page: "This is meant to help give advice and constructive criticism. Remember there is a difference between being truthful and being rude." It doesn't benefit everyone if we just applaud each other when they don't pass. I don't post here often because on when its borderline and people are saying they pass I think there is a minute culture difference between the US and the UK which makes me see a lot of people as women, and I leave them be. However in this case I thought I might be able to suggest some generic things which might help you as you seemed keen to pass. No one here expected you to do those things immediately, or that you're less of a man because you haven't done them already, they were more things which someone could work towards. If I posted a photograph and someone suggested a different haircut I wouldn't go and do it the next day, because that's impractical.
No one was saying you absolutely had to do those things to be a man, and a lot of people hear our advice but choose not to take it because of style. Others sacrifice their own style slightly in order to be able to pass, and that's equally as fine, it depends which is more important to the individual. The sad truth is that most guys without T cannot pull off long hair and feminine items such as piercings whilst still being read as male. They have to choose. Even some cis guys can't do long hair and passing all of the time, Sebastian Bach of Skid Row is an example which always comes to mind.
I understand that T is probably a sore subject for you. I only mentioned a second opinion because there are people who thought/assumed/heard they would never be able to take it, but have been able to and are fine. I obviously don't know what your health problems are, and I'm no doctor, it was merely a suggestion if you hadn't fully checked with your doctor. We obviously don't want you doing something which would seriously harm you of course.
Don't judge this site based on hearing what you didn't want to hear on this thread. No one wants to hear that they don't pass, but we just assumed that you wanted pointers like the rest of us.
Hey. I'm new here. I know that I really don't pass. These pics aren't my best but they are the only ones I have right now.
(After these pictures I found out that if I use a long sleeve athletic shirt underneath it makes me look like pecs.)
I just started cross dressing like two months ago. I came out as transgender during Thanksgiving.
Check me out.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/v/1544585_193100500896036_131576123_n.jpg?oh=4bc97545c4fbabac3f7f0b261c8486a7&oe=52C237E9&__gda__=1388512901_f64b1121446d9784dbc0bbce8db7382a)
and me with my sister
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/v/1545950_193096687563084_232056460_n.jpg?oh=16b6ef16f55dcf82bc892f612df92f38&oe=52C29709&__gda__=1388541608_abaeac65e62aaf7b91268b4dc07351e4)
Oh and biggest question. Do my glasses make me look feminine?
Comments to give me advice are appreciated.
Caleb: I think once you find a way to bind/disguise your chest you'll be passing with no problem. Photo's are a tad dark though so it's hard to see.
Quote from: Kaylee on November 30, 2013, 04:04:52 AM
I'm full time and don't really care what people think, but if I'd been posting before coming out and someone asked why I was dressed as a girl in pics they'd found online...I'd ask them what they were doing lurking on trans support forums, is there something that they need to talk about?!? :P
pretty good answer and reply
Quote from: donniedarko on December 29, 2013, 04:17:43 PM
Hey guys & girls!
a few months ago i posted some picture about my face. Now here are some new photos. Pls tell me your opinion about my transitioning. After 9,5 months on T i'm still shy sometimes!
This is me ( right) with my bro at Christmas Eve.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkepfeltoltes.hu%2F131229%2F1477695_183266881880446_1163744210_n_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg&hash=e8b5230e36e26517377a9f1ae95370a2dcb43be5)
And this one was taken by my brother ( he is an amature photographer )
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkepfeltoltes.hu%2F131229%2F1555546_186080854932382_1338663039_n_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg&hash=971802edc7e9527a2e96ea190bd16eab9d3d6bbc)
Sorry for my bad english grammar!
Have a great day buddies! :)
Donnie,
You're looking great my friend! I used to follow your photos on Flickr back when I was a member there, terrific stuff! You look terrific guy!
Quote from: donniedarko on December 29, 2013, 04:17:43 PM
Hey guys & girls!
a few months ago i posted some picture about my face. Now here are some new photos. Pls tell me your opinion about my transitioning. After 9,5 months on T i'm still shy sometimes!
This is me ( right) with my bro at Christmas Eve.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkepfeltoltes.hu%2F131229%2F1477695_183266881880446_1163744210_n_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg&hash=e8b5230e36e26517377a9f1ae95370a2dcb43be5)
And this one was taken by my brother ( he is an amature photographer )
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkepfeltoltes.hu%2F131229%2F1555546_186080854932382_1338663039_n_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg&hash=971802edc7e9527a2e96ea190bd16eab9d3d6bbc)
Sorry for my bad english grammar!
Have a great day buddies! :)
Oh moj boze!!!! ti si mnogo lepo!!!!!! OMG, I think you are very handsome!
Donnie, if you hadn't told me which guy you were (I presume your brother is cis) I would never have known which was you. You look like a cis guy.
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/2fa0fa55d8fa5143e91a7884587a7f62/tumblr_mytdxpAy7k1s15h70o1_500.jpg)
its been a while since i posted anything on susan's. i started T about 4 months ago tho, and i got a new haircut today. wanted to see if i'm rocking the look. i haven't been misgendered in a while but i'm always a little nervous about it any time i change my hair
also donnie you're looking GREAT. you're a hansom devil!
If someone misgendered you Peppy they've have to be pretty crazy. You look really good and your haircut is awesome!
Peppy, i dont usually post in here because i dont like making people cry by telling them the truth, but i couldn't resist, you dont belong in this thread, i think you'll find this one more fitting https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,138926.360.html
Quote from: donniedarko on December 29, 2013, 04:17:43 PM
Hey guys & girls!
a few months ago i posted some picture about my face. Now here are some new photos. Pls tell me your opinion about my transitioning. After 9,5 months on T i'm still shy sometimes!
This is me ( right) with my bro at Christmas Eve.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkepfeltoltes.hu%2F131229%2F1477695_183266881880446_1163744210_n_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg&hash=e8b5230e36e26517377a9f1ae95370a2dcb43be5)
And this one was taken by my brother ( he is an amature photographer )
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkepfeltoltes.hu%2F131229%2F1555546_186080854932382_1338663039_n_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg&hash=971802edc7e9527a2e96ea190bd16eab9d3d6bbc)
Sorry for my bad english grammar!
Have a great day buddies! :)
u r hot. this could just be me, but wen I look at ur face I think of shane harper.
First time back on this forum in a long ass time, figured I'd see what people thought. No T or anything, tried some 'supplements' for a minute but never stuck to a regimen.
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@Sam- Hey, I'd say you pass but as a very young boy. You're really flat, thin, and with little to no curves from the photos shown, your haircut is masculine, so all that makes you pass to me. But, being so small and having such a soft face makes you look so young. Perhaps you could try wearing some more adult-styled clothing that fits properly and see how that does--though the problem with that usually is that the clothes might show that you're older than a young kid and then just make you look like a butch lesbian instead of an older male. While adult males do wear t-shirts too, something more mature might help you look older. Try some things on and see how it looks. :)
thank you all of the nice comments! Really made my day!
Never give up your dreams girls & guys :)
Donniedarko you definitely pass and the resemblance between you and your brother is crazy. Also, I kinda think you look like Nick from New Girl, if you've happen to see that show at all
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Just an update i spose. Got some new clothes, i really like the color blue, im pretty sure everything i baught today was blue but eh. I'll be starting T soon! Im in my last little stretch of having to be female here and i really am just excited to get goin on this.
Lucky me, im not binding or wearing a bra here, feels nice to just let everything breath stupid bras... And i got a haircut and im pre erryting.
Quote from: BeefxCake on January 08, 2014, 04:34:57 AM
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Just an update i spose. Got some new clothes, i really like the color blue, im pretty sure everything i baught today was blue but eh. I'll be starting T soon! Im in my last little stretch of having to be female here and i really am just excited to get goin on this.
Lucky me, im not binding or wearing a bra here, feels nice to just let everything breath stupid bras... And i got a haircut and im pre erryting.
Good haircut and you have a nice face. I can't see any reason you'd need a bra or a binder so you already come across as the nice boy that lives next door.
@Spacerace To me you pass in that photo, your haircut is very masculine and a more mature style. I'd say you look maybe 17-19 years old.
spacerace, I think you pass in that photo as well. I wouldn't say 17, I'd say maybe 15 or 16. But I can definitely see changes from your previous photos.
Quote from: LearnedHand on January 08, 2014, 05:14:00 PM
@Spacerace To me you pass in that photo, your haircut is very masculine and a more mature style. I'd say you look maybe 17-19 years old.
Quote from: caleb. on January 08, 2014, 05:30:19 PM
spacerace, I think you pass in that photo as well. I wouldn't say 17, I'd say maybe 15 or 16. But I can definitely see changes from your previous photos.
Thanks guys. Glad there is some progress.
Got my hair cut again (finally), just wondering what you guys would say :) Not out yet to anyone but two best friends, so I still look very feminine.
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I'm new here.. thought I'd post to see if when I officially come out.. if I can pass as a guy. :) My mom finally let me cut my hair like a boy this past summer and I love it. My hairs a little messy in these pics sorry haha
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@Freddie love the haircut and the clothes.. I think you pass. Your face is a little feminine yeah but your hair and clothes make you look like a guy imo
Quote from: freddie on January 09, 2014, 12:50:16 PM
Got my hair cut again (finally), just wondering what you guys would say :) Not out yet to anyone but two best friends, so I still look very feminine.
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Cant see much from the side hon, but if i was looking through pictures in an album and saw these, or searching the web (other than Susans or the likes) I never would not think you were female.
Quote from: Mr Hockey on January 09, 2014, 04:14:09 PM
I'm new here.. thought I'd post to see if when I officially come out.. if I can pass as a guy. :) My mom finally let me cut my hair like a boy this past summer and I love it. My hairs a little messy in these pics sorry haha
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@Freddie love the haircut and the clothes.. I think you pass. Your face is a little feminine yeah but your hair and clothes make you look like a guy imo
I don't know much about FTM transformations, but when I see your face, it seems to have a squareness about it that says male, it isn't screaming but T will def amplify that based on what I have seen in this thread in the past.
Everyone looks really fantastic
Quote from: Ксениа on January 10, 2014, 06:23:07 PM
I don't know much about FTM transformations, but when I see your face, it seems to have a squareness about it that says male, it isn't screaming but T will def amplify that based on what I have seen in this thread in the past.
Okay, thanks!
Quote from: Ксениа on December 28, 2013, 07:29:19 AM
Sam, you look good, and if this is pre-T, im confident without a shodow of a doubt that you will be more than ok look wise for your face.
thanks @Ксениа !! my friends said that i manly enough since not on T yet. i want to practice and build a habbit like a man first. so, if i start T, i can be perfectly manly inside and outside. hehe i have one problem to start T. i must tell to my father. and.....i so nervous about it. i just want to tell him, not asking for permission.
there are my photos with a fake facial hair. hehe my friend made it for me and ask me to went to my date like that and my -make up artist- friend will give me a snack. haha and please, kindly follow my instagram : @abrisamcj
http://instagram.com/p/iZDHXIABLl/ (http://instagram.com/p/iZDHXIABLl/)
http://instagram.com/p/irCIxEABEy/ (http://instagram.com/p/irCIxEABEy/)
Quote from: Mr Hockey on January 09, 2014, 04:14:09 PM
@Freddie love the haircut and the clothes.. I think you pass. Your face is a little feminine yeah but your hair and clothes make you look like a guy imo
Thank you! Yes feminine features are annoying..
Btw, I think you pass completely. You look just like a boy in my class~
Quote from: Ксениа on January 10, 2014, 06:20:39 PM
Cant see much from the side hon, but if i was looking through pictures in an album and saw these, or searching the web (other than Susans or the likes) I never would not think you were female.
Thank you so much. Yes I couldn't find any pictures from the front as I dont ever take them myself ;) But thank you very much~
Quote from: freddie on January 11, 2014, 05:22:50 AM
Thank you! Yes feminine features are annoying..
Btw, I think you pass completely. You look just like a boy in my class~
Your welcome and thank you! I wasn't sure if I passed, my eyes are very feminine I've noticed. :-\ But thanks a lot! :)
Quote from: samsj on January 11, 2014, 02:51:37 AM
thanks @Ксениа !! my friends said that i manly enough since not on T yet. i want to practice and build a habbit like a man first. so, if i start T, i can be perfectly manly inside and outside. hehe i have one problem to start T. i must tell to my father. and.....i so nervous about it. i just want to tell him, not asking for permission.
there are my photos with a fake facial hair. hehe my friend made it for me and ask me to went to my date like that and my -make up artist- friend will give me a snack. haha and please, kindly follow my instagram : @abrisamcj
http://instagram.com/p/iZDHXIABLl/ (http://instagram.com/p/iZDHXIABLl/)
http://instagram.com/p/irCIxEABEy/ (http://instagram.com/p/irCIxEABEy/)
These B&W say Male to me hands down. I am not sure what your relationship with your Father is like so I cant tell you what is best for you, you must make that call....but I dont think going to your Father, with the mentality and the message I must do this and there is not a D*mn thing you can do about is a good idea. Sure, deep down, maybe that is what you think you need to do, but I hope you think about talking to him openly, explain that this is how you feel, and that you would like to see a therapist. The therapist will help a lot, and has helped me dearly. Please don't take this as me telling you what to do, just an idea. :) On a final note, you pass in these pictures before T, but keep in mind, there is more to passing than just looks.
I'm still pre everything, and I don't always feel confident about my passing but I took some pics before and after school on a day that I felt pretty confident. I'm open to constructive criticism if anyone has it. xD
http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t384/shicaloaf/2014-01-08162733.jpg
http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t384/shicaloaf/2014-01-08162631.jpg
http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t384/shicaloaf/IMG_20140108_054405.jpg
http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t384/shicaloaf/IMG_20140108_054330.jpg
(Sorry about links, I didn't want to put amazingly huge photos in my post. XD)
Quote from: Ксениа on January 11, 2014, 05:13:26 PM
These B&W say Male to me hands down. I am not sure what your relationship with your Father is like so I cant tell you what is best for you, you must make that call....but I dont think going to your Father, with the mentality and the message I must do this and there is not a D*mn thing you can do about is a good idea. Sure, deep down, maybe that is what you think you need to do, but I hope you think about talking to him openly, explain that this is how you feel, and that you would like to see a therapist. The therapist will help a lot, and has helped me dearly. Please don't take this as me telling you what to do, just an idea. :) On a final note, you pass in these pictures before T, but keep in mind, there is more to passing than just looks.
hey @Ксениа i already met my therapist. he gave me an advice to tell my father first before i have medichal check up and teraphy. yeah, more to passing. mind, attitude, legal identity, etc. btw you look woman-ly! when you started your transition?:)
Quote from: BGLW on January 11, 2014, 07:12:37 PM
I'm still pre everything, and I don't always feel confident about my passing but I took some pics before and after school on a day that I felt pretty confident. I'm open to constructive criticism if anyone has it. xD
I definitely think you pass, but as quite a young boy. Especially in the second pictures you look around 12/13.
Quote from: BGLW on January 11, 2014, 07:12:37 PM
I'm still pre everything, and I don't always feel confident about my passing but I took some pics before and after school on a day that I felt pretty confident. I'm open to constructive criticism if anyone has it. xD
I think you pass in the first two. My one hold back really is your hair could use a little something. Maybe just a little trim, your face looks like it'd work best with long hair though. So just a little off the bottom.
In the second two you look like a girl. I don't think you pass in a hat, that and it and your shirt being pink (or at least that's how it looks on my computer) don't really help.
Hi, friends! I've been lurking here for well over two years, but finally am going to start T next month, so I'd thought I'd post a before photo here. I just got a haircut today, so tell me buddies... DO I PASS? (I'll try add more photos later possibly, this is the only one available now :P)
https://twitter.com/lilwesman/status/423506939704643584/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/lilwesman/status/423506939704643584/photo/1)
Quote from: lilwesman on January 15, 2014, 01:01:10 PM
Hi, friends! I've been lurking here for well over two years, but finally am going to start T next month, so I'd thought I'd post a before photo here. I just got a haircut today, so tell me buddies... DO I PASS? (I'll try add more photos later possibly, this is the only one available now :P)
https://twitter.com/lilwesman/status/423506939704643584/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/lilwesman/status/423506939704643584/photo/1)
I think you totally pass! You look young, but A) there's nothing wrong with that and B) T will help
Congrats on starting T, and I really dig your haircut!
Thanks for the opinions ^^ as far as everything looking pink, blame the camera on the phone and tablet I was using lol, I never have been good with indoor lighting. I've been trying to get a new phone case since I got the thing but soon I won't have the phone anymore so I won't worry. :P (the shirt and hat were actually orange rofl)
As far as the hat, it makes sense. I noticed it does tend to make my face look more effeminate. I'm gonna stop wearing hats so much for now. :p looks kinda like I need to revise my style of clothing, haha.
Quote from: BGLW on January 11, 2014, 07:12:37 PM
I'm still pre everything, and I don't always feel confident about my passing but I took some pics before and after school on a day that I felt pretty confident. I'm open to constructive criticism if anyone has it. xD
http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t384/shicaloaf/2014-01-08162733.jpg
http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t384/shicaloaf/2014-01-08162631.jpg
http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t384/shicaloaf/IMG_20140108_054405.jpg
http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t384/shicaloaf/IMG_20140108_054330.jpg
(Sorry about links, I didn't want to put amazingly huge photos in my post. XD)
I think you pass. You look like you could be a boy from my school.
I've been really uncomfortable with myself lately even though people keep saying I do pass and I tend to pass (if I keep my mouth shut :p)to strangers. So I thought I'd put some pictures up here. Do you guys have any tips to pass better? Am I paranoid? And what age do I pass as if I pass?
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy160/nathan_maertens/IMG_0637_zpsb9f39119.jpg
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy160/nathan_maertens/IMG_0635_zps18a5dba6.jpg
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy160/nathan_maertens/IMG_063220x30_zpsfaad5ed6.jpg
Quote from: NathanielM on January 18, 2014, 11:06:39 AM
I've been really uncomfortable with myself lately even though people keep saying I do pass and I tend to pass (if I keep my mouth shut :p)to strangers. So I thought I'd put some pictures up here. Do you guys have any tips to pass better? Am I paranoid? And what age do I pass as if I pass?
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy160/nathan_maertens/IMG_0637_zpsb9f39119.jpg
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy160/nathan_maertens/IMG_0635_zps18a5dba6.jpg
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy160/nathan_maertens/IMG_063220x30_zpsfaad5ed6.jpg
Looks wise you pass just fine as a handsome young man, good photos!
I think you pass too, Nathan. I'm inclined to say I'd read you as about 17 or 18.
Quote from: NathanielM on January 18, 2014, 11:06:39 AM
I've been really uncomfortable with myself lately even though people keep saying I do pass and I tend to pass (if I keep my mouth shut :p)to strangers. So I thought I'd put some pictures up here. Do you guys have any tips to pass better? Am I paranoid? And what age do I pass as if I pass?
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy160/nathan_maertens/IMG_0637_zpsb9f39119.jpg
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy160/nathan_maertens/IMG_0635_zps18a5dba6.jpg
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy160/nathan_maertens/IMG_063220x30_zpsfaad5ed6.jpg
Definitely pass! I'd guess 18-ish.
Quote from: NathanielM on January 18, 2014, 11:06:39 AM
I've been really uncomfortable with myself lately even though people keep saying I do pass and I tend to pass (if I keep my mouth shut :p)to strangers. So I thought I'd put some pictures up here. Do you guys have any tips to pass better? Am I paranoid? And what age do I pass as if I pass?
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy160/nathan_maertens/IMG_0637_zpsb9f39119.jpg
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy160/nathan_maertens/IMG_0635_zps18a5dba6.jpg
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy160/nathan_maertens/IMG_063220x30_zpsfaad5ed6.jpg
You definitely pass, no second guessing. I'd say you look around 17-18, maybe 19. :)
Quote from: NathanielM on January 18, 2014, 11:06:39 AM
I've been really uncomfortable with myself lately even though people keep saying I do pass and I tend to pass (if I keep my mouth shut :p)to strangers. So I thought I'd put some pictures up here. Do you guys have any tips to pass better? Am I paranoid? And what age do I pass as if I pass?
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy160/nathan_maertens/IMG_0637_zpsb9f39119.jpg
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy160/nathan_maertens/IMG_0635_zps18a5dba6.jpg
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy160/nathan_maertens/IMG_063220x30_zpsfaad5ed6.jpg
Haha dude you pass with flying colors, for sure. If I saw you in person, I'd totally would know you're male; wouldn't even bat an eye. Tips to pass better, well, that all depends on how you present yourself. Like, physically, you're totally fine, but tips other than that... Make sure you walk with a slouch and NEVER sway your hips. When sitting, don't let your legs touch, always keep them apart. And when you're out in public around strangers, guys have a way of acknowledging each other. Do the 'chin nod' thing (you know what I'm talking about, right?) at other guys when walking by, just as a form of acknowledgment, like saying 'sup,' which is cool, cuz you won't even have to speak ;) I find it really amps up the masculinity. There's tons of other tips I could give (I've been passing for 4 years as a guy, and I'm not even on T), but these are my basic ones, and you've probably even heard these before. Don't be self conscious, you look great! Nothing to worry about, man.
Hey guys :) I'm pretty new here, so I figured I should ask: Do I pass?? In person I'm only 5'2", so that's a huge factor of it, but my voice is fairly deep on its own (I'm not on T or anything yet, but that's probably obvious). I generally pass about 80% of the time in person. People just say I look SUPER young. I've been told on average that I look like a 10 year old boy, but trust me, I'm not. I'm actually much older than you would think. Check out my avatar compared to these pics, though. To mohawk or not to mohawk, that is the question. Most days I don't, because I don't like wasting time doing my hair in the morning, that's a dysphoria thing for me. But people tell me I pass better and look much older with the 'hawk. What do you guys think? Any tips? Comments?
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Quote from: TheNemo on January 19, 2014, 02:44:00 AM
Hey guys :) I'm pretty new here, so I figured I should ask: Do I pass?? In person I'm only 5'2", so that's a huge factor of it, but my voice is fairly deep on its own (I'm not on T or anything yet, but that's probably obvious). I generally pass about 80% of the time in person. People just say I look SUPER young. I've been told on average that I look like a 10 year old boy, but trust me, I'm not. I'm actually much older than you would think. Check out my avatar compared to these pics, though. To mohawk or not to mohawk, that is the question. Most days I don't, because I don't like wasting time doing my hair in the morning, that's a dysphoria thing for me. But people tell me I pass better and look much older with the 'hawk. What do you guys think? Any tips? Comments?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi775.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy39%2FTheNemo72%2F1_zpsa409ca1c.png&hash=e4a853758fc97e2a514dd32754b40e8b0e5e3901) (http://s775.photobucket.com/user/TheNemo72/media/1_zpsa409ca1c.png.html)
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Yes, you do look very young. You pass.. but as an 11 year old skater boy. I think maybe a different style of clothes maybe?
Quote from: TheNemo on January 19, 2014, 02:44:00 AM
Hey guys :) I'm pretty new here, so I figured I should ask: Do I pass?? In person I'm only 5'2", so that's a huge factor of it, but my voice is fairly deep on its own (I'm not on T or anything yet, but that's probably obvious). I generally pass about 80% of the time in person. People just say I look SUPER young. I've been told on average that I look like a 10 year old boy, but trust me, I'm not. I'm actually much older than you would think. Check out my avatar compared to these pics, though. To mohawk or not to mohawk, that is the question. Most days I don't, because I don't like wasting time doing my hair in the morning, that's a dysphoria thing for me. But people tell me I pass better and look much older with the 'hawk. What do you guys think? Any tips? Comments?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi775.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy39%2FTheNemo72%2F1_zpsa409ca1c.png&hash=e4a853758fc97e2a514dd32754b40e8b0e5e3901) (http://s775.photobucket.com/user/TheNemo72/media/1_zpsa409ca1c.png.html)
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I'd say in those pics you're definitely right about passing as about 10 or 11. The 'hawk definitely makes you look a few years older, I'm totally jealous. I can't do a 'hawk because my hairline screams 'girl' but your hairline definitely doesn't hinder your passing.
hey guys a long time i didn't post here , this is the last pic i took do u think i still pass
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Quote from: NathanielM on January 18, 2014, 11:06:39 AM
I've been really uncomfortable with myself lately even though people keep saying I do pass and I tend to pass (if I keep my mouth shut :p)to strangers. So I thought I'd put some pictures up here. Do you guys have any tips to pass better? Am I paranoid? And what age do I pass as if I pass?
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy160/nathan_maertens/IMG_0637_zpsb9f39119.jpg
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy160/nathan_maertens/IMG_0635_zps18a5dba6.jpg
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy160/nathan_maertens/IMG_063220x30_zpsfaad5ed6.jpg
I would certainly assume you was a guy if i saw you, but you do have some soft features (which is not a bad thing at all, you have lovely eyes) which makes you look young. I'd say about 15-17.
Quote from: jossef-ftm on January 19, 2014, 12:54:14 PM
hey guys a long time i didn't post here , this is the last pic i took do u think i still pass
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You definitely pass. Wow, you're handsome. :)
Mr Hockey thnx man
Quote from: TheNemo on January 19, 2014, 02:44:00 AM
Hey guys :) I'm pretty new here, so I figured I should ask: Do I pass?? In person I'm only 5'2", so that's a huge factor of it, but my voice is fairly deep on its own (I'm not on T or anything yet, but that's probably obvious). I generally pass about 80% of the time in person. People just say I look SUPER young. I've been told on average that I look like a 10 year old boy, but trust me, I'm not. I'm actually much older than you would think. Check out my avatar compared to these pics, though. To mohawk or not to mohawk, that is the question. Most days I don't, because I don't like wasting time doing my hair in the morning, that's a dysphoria thing for me. But people tell me I pass better and look much older with the 'hawk. What do you guys think? Any tips? Comments?
Your face is very young looking, but your outfit is exacerbating the effect. I'm not sure what to suggest, but a different look might make you look older. A jacket and tie, maybe? :-\
Quote from: jossef-ftm on January 19, 2014, 12:54:14 PM
hey guys a long time i didn't post here , this is the last pic i took do u think i still pass
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Of course you do Jossef, you're looking manly! Been thinking about you, hope all is going better.
thnx a lot shantel and yea i'm good
So I got a haircut and I want to see what you guys think of it.
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I feel like I still look like a scrawny 13 year old.
Hello, i want to post the last photo that i took..
do i pass?
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Hey, I'm new here and was just wondering if I pass and if there is anything I can do to help me pass better. I'm pre everything.
So I'm pretty new here and just recently coming out (although i've known i'm transgender my whole life, i couldn't accept it and neither did my friends, so i just told everyone i liked girls - i didn't specifically say i was gay or lesbian - and would secretly bind in my bedroom when i was left home alone). I'm now at a very LGBT friendly school (freshmen in college) and i finally feel ready to come out.
So.....do i pass?
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I'm not good at giving criticism and stuff but I'll try my best here.
Quote from: Jace on January 20, 2014, 05:00:51 PM
So I got a haircut and I want to see what you guys think of it.
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I feel like I still look like a scrawny 13 year old.
Your face still looks feminine.. I'm guessing you're still pre-T, correct me if I'm wrong but if you are testosterone will rid your face of those feminine features.
Quote from: samsj on January 21, 2014, 05:09:54 AM
Hello, i want to post the last photo that i took..
do i pass?
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You pass for sure. You look great, dude. :)
Quote from: Brett.B on January 25, 2014, 10:25:22 AM
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Hey, I'm new here and was just wondering if I pass and if there is anything I can do to help me pass better. I'm pre everything.
I think you could pass with the right clothes at the moment being pre-T. Like I mentioned, testosterone will definitely make you look more manly.
Quote from: LeroyG on January 27, 2014, 04:04:24 PM
So I'm pretty new here and just recently coming out (although i've known i'm transgender my whole life, i couldn't accept it and neither did my friends, so i just told everyone i liked girls - i didn't specifically say i was gay or lesbian - and would secretly bind in my bedroom when i was left home alone). I'm now at a very LGBT friendly school (freshmen in college) and i finally feel ready to come out.
So.....do i pass?
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I don't think you pass. I don't know how old you are but you look pretty young.
@ Jace - You pass on a quick glance, though for very young and (if you're not) the context of the situation would likely raise some eyebrows. Fortunately, you don't have very feminine features, just high cheek bones. T and fat distribution will make this less prominent. I do like the haircut and I think it will be age appropriate even as you start looking older.
@samsj- I say a yes for pass, just as probably younger than your actual age. Luckily, as a fellow Asian/Islander, common physical attributes of our ethnicities allow us to pass much earlier than others. (pardon if I completely misread your ethnicity).
@ Brett B.- Like Jace, you don't have overly feminine features, but high cheekbones than facial fat redistribution will harden. Other than the flamboyant hair style, theres nothing obvious that should keep you from passing after 3 months on T.
@ LeroyG- Congrats to entering long road of transitioning. While on campus you will never pass, not because you look female, but because you look like a very young boy and context will give you away. Those pre-T tend to dress younger in order to pass, so the backwards cap will help in that regard. There's not too much you can do until starting hormones so I wouldn't stress out about passing too much. Probably your best bet would be to square off your sideburns and start working out (or continue)- I suppose the working out advice would go to any of you all looking to build a more masculine physique pre-T.
I know these aren't the best pictures to see if I pass since I'm only really shown in my binder, but I think that it's good to see if you can pass without a bunch of clothes since it makes it harder, plus my main trouble with passing is focused on my face... I generally like my face, but I'm worried that it's a bit too feminine.
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*also, sorry about the amount of pictures... I know you guys don't want to look at my ugly mug*
Quote from: Rían on January 28, 2014, 05:52:19 PM
I know these aren't the best pictures to see if I pass since I'm only really shown in my binder, but I think that it's good to see if you can pass without a bunch of clothes since it makes it harder, plus my main trouble with passing is focused on my face... I generally like my face, but I'm worried that it's a bit too feminine.
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*also, sorry about the amount of pictures... I know you guys don't want to look at my ugly mug*
Ugly mug? I think you're cute. :)
I think you pass. Your face has some feminine features but generally, if I walked past you in public, I'd assume you were male.
Quote from: Mr Hockey on January 28, 2014, 07:09:53 PM
Ugly mug? I think you're cute. :)
I think you pass. Your face has some feminine features but generally, if I walked past you in public, I'd assume you were male.
Aw thank you! :D
Yeah I'm also working on how I stand/walk, but I've been read as male in public a few times. I'm also trying to work out my upper body more and lose weight, not just for passing but for general health and fitness too :P
Quote from: Rían on January 28, 2014, 07:14:50 PM
Aw thank you! :D
Yeah I'm also working on how I stand/walk, but I've been read as male in public a few times. I'm also trying to work out my upper body more and lose weight, not just for passing but for general health and fitness too :P
I have a thing for gingers, sorta. ;) lol
Same here, I'm going to start working out in the spring when the weather gets better so I can go jogging and stuff like that. Not so much to lose wait.. I have a very bony figure and I want to bulk up some. I also get read as male as public a lot. I've been called sir many times by people and it's great.
Quote from: Mr Hockey on January 28, 2014, 07:17:39 PM
I have a thing for gingers, sorta. ;) lol
Same here, I'm going to start working out in the spring when the weather gets better so I can go jogging and stuff like that. Not so much to lose wait.. I have a very bony figure and I want to bulk up some. I also get read as male as public a lot. I've been called sir many times by people and it's great.
Yeah I've always worked out a bunch, it's mainly just a matter of metabolism / what I eat. I've played hockey since first grade, and now I do travel ice hockey with 19 year olds (girls hockey though, so yeah it's kinda uncomfortable) and I take krav maga so I work out at least once every day of the week.
It sucks though because I get injured a lot and I can't work out when I'm injured... I sprained my hand really badly over the summer, then reinjured it a couple months later, and I separated my shoulder a couple times a few months ago. My knees are really screwy right now, so I'm lightening up with exercise. No hockey for now, and no impact krav in lessons, I only get to do impact and fight during the krav classes. But at least now I'm actually going to a physical therapist for my injuries :P
I do have a punching bag and a pull-up bar in my room though, so sometimes I sneak some workouts in ;)
Quote from: Rían on January 28, 2014, 07:39:51 PM
Yeah I've always worked out a bunch, it's mainly just a matter of metabolism / what I eat. I've played hockey since first grade, and now I do travel ice hockey with 19 year olds (girls hockey though, so yeah it's kinda uncomfortable) and I take krav maga so I work out at least once every day of the week.
It sucks though because I get injured a lot and I can't work out when I'm injured... I sprained my hand really badly over the summer, then reinjured it a couple months later, and I separated my shoulder a couple times a few months ago. My knees are really screwy right now, so I'm lightening up with exercise. No hockey for now, and no impact krav in lessons, I only get to do impact and fight during the krav classes. But at least now I'm actually going to a physical therapist for my injuries :P
I do have a punching bag and a pull-up bar in my room though, so sometimes I sneak some workouts in ;)
I play goalie in ice hockey and it's great. I have a bit of muscle coming in from doing that. Playing goalie really wears out my body.
I haven't had an injury yet from playing hockey, luckily. I really have only suffered one major injury in my life so far, which was severing my Achilles tendon a couple years back.
I want to get some dumbbells and a punching bag. I'm pretty good at situps and still working on perfecting pushups. I also want to start eating healthier as well; I have a good metabolism I've noticed since I eat so much junk but don't gain a pound but I know it'll catch up to me sooner or later so I want to start making better food choices.
Quote from: Mr Hockey on January 28, 2014, 07:47:22 PM
I play goalie in ice hockey and it's great. I have a bit of muscle coming in from doing that. Playing goalie really wears out my body.
I play goalie too! Yeah it is really hard on the body, especially hips and knees. My hips have always been pretty tight, but it hasn't been a huge problem. Ever since I was a kid my knees were bad, but since I started goalie they've become a bit stronger. They do give out from time to time though.
Honestly, my krav instructor says when I turn 30 I'm just going to crumple into a pile on the floor. He also tends to make fun of my high pain tolerance level (I still don't know if it's a guy thing, a hockey thing, or an autism thing), and the fact that whenever we go to the ground pretty much every joint I have cracks :P
so I'm pre T
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me and the girl
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Just wondering how old I look.
Quote from: Ryan55 on January 29, 2014, 02:18:31 PM
so I'm pre T
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me and the girl
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You pass. I think you'll look better when you start T.
Quote from: rightocaito on January 29, 2014, 10:30:05 PM
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Just wondering how old I look.
You look about 19 or 20.
Ryan, you look damn good for pre T bro.
Recently I've all of a sudden stopped passing. I've passed MAYBE 25% of the time the past few weeks and it's really been bothering me. I used to pass much more. Any advice?
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thanks lance, i think the hat helps lol its my comfort zone
Cursed maybe its the hair? I know bangs can be a feminine quality with short haircuts for chicks, try to spike it up and see if that helps?
Quote from: Ryan55 on January 30, 2014, 05:13:31 PM
thanks lance, i think the hat helps lol its my comfort zone
Cursed maybe its the hair? I know bangs can be a feminine quality with short haircuts for chicks, try to spike it up and see if that helps?
Tried :/ I pass better with bangs because my hairline is so feminine. :P Thanks though.
Quote from: CursedFireDean on January 30, 2014, 04:40:19 PM
Recently I've all of a sudden stopped passing. I've passed MAYBE 25% of the time the past few weeks and it's really been bothering me. I used to pass much more. Any advice?
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What do you look like without glasses? I think you could pass without the glasses. Or do you need them to see?
Quote from: Mr Hockey on January 30, 2014, 05:28:09 PM
What do you look like without glasses? I think you could pass without the glasses. Or do you need them to see?
I need them sadly :c I do think they're probably part of my passing problem
Quote from: CursedFireDean on January 30, 2014, 05:43:43 PM
I need them sadly :c I do think they're probably part of my passing problem
I need glasses to see as well and I think I look really feminine in them. That's why I always take pictures without them and don't wear them unless I'm watching TV or playing a game because I can't see well far away.
how do u post pics
Quote from: lonewolfcorey5 on January 30, 2014, 05:54:36 PM
how do u post pics
Upload the pic to a site like imgur, then copy the BBCode on the side and paste it into your reply
Quote from: lonewolfcorey5 on January 30, 2014, 05:54:36 PM
how do u post pics
What I do is I post my pictures on Imgur then I copy the link they give you, then click the little picture icon (or insert image link on the tapatalk app) in the reply box, then paste the link.
you try using contacts? I use contacts, I can't see without glasses either
heres a few pics, how old u guys think I look n do I pass
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Quote from: lonewolfcorey5 on January 30, 2014, 06:22:21 PM
heres a few pics, how old u guys think I look n do I pass
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I think you pass as a 17 year old guy.
Quote from: Ryan55 on January 30, 2014, 06:20:01 PM
you try using contacts? I use contacts, I can't see without glasses either
I wear them in the summer when I'm doing activities that require them (like wakeboarding, surfing, that type of stuff) but usually they irritate my eyes too much for me to bother. They don't irritate my eyes a lot at all, but it's still more than I like. I'm eventually going to get lasik. I'm going snowboarding this weekend and I'm putting in contacts for that, so I'll post another picture then too.
Quote from: lonewolfcorey5 on January 30, 2014, 06:22:21 PM
heres a few pics, how old u guys think I look n do I pass
you definitely pass, especially in your last picture. I'd agree; 17-ish, though if you told me a couple years older I definitely wouldn't be surprised at all.
im 19 so im not too far off
Quote from: lonewolfcorey5 on January 30, 2014, 06:29:01 PM
im 19 so im not too far off
I don't even see anything feminine about you; you look like a cis guy. I assume you're on T, how long have you been on it?
Quote from: Mr Hockey on January 30, 2014, 06:33:50 PM
I don't even see anything feminine about you; you look like a cis guy. I assume you're on T, how long have you been on it?
I'm not on T yet, ive been taking supplements for a while but that's all so far
Quote from: lonewolfcorey5 on January 30, 2014, 07:29:52 PM
I'm not on T yet, ive been taking supplements for a while but that's all so far
Wow man for being pre-T, you look especially great! I totally thought you'd been on for at least a few months.
Quote from: lonewolfcorey5 on January 30, 2014, 06:22:21 PM
heres a few pics, how old u guys think I look n do I pass
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you pass easily and could look between 15-18 depending on your wardrobe
Quote from: lonewolfcorey5 on January 30, 2014, 07:29:52 PM
I'm not on T yet, ive been taking supplements for a while but that's all so far
Wow. Then you'll look really manly and pass easily when you get on testosterone. If I was a stranger and saw you in public, I wouldn't question your gender at all. All I see is guy, dude.
Quote from: Mr Hockey on January 30, 2014, 06:18:31 AM
You look about 19 or 20.
eh. better than under 18 I guess. I'm 24. Maybe one day I'll look my age.
So I realise it's likely I don't pass right now, but it's late at night and this is with everything down - I haven't done my hair, done any facial fixes (i.e. contours and shadows to make my face look more masculine etc), or even bound my chest. I'm pre-everything, and starting HRT in about 5 months, so I'm pretty damn excited and wanted to make some sorta post before the changes.
Wish me luck.
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NOTE: I'm fairly young in comparison to what I assume to be the average age around here, and new to this forum.
Quote from: Mr Hockey on January 30, 2014, 07:39:35 PM
Wow. Then you'll look really manly and pass easily when you get on testosterone. If I was a stranger and saw you in public, I wouldn't question your gender at all. All I see is guy, dude.
Awesome n I hope ur right I cant wait to start T
So im the girl in that pic... I love you baby!! just saying.. and you have always passed for a man.. for the last three years I been with you I always thought you were a man. I can't wait to take this journey with you. I love you more then life it's self..
Quote from: Ryan55 on January 29, 2014, 02:18:31 PM
so I'm pre T
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me and the girl
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Quote from: linny55 on January 31, 2014, 05:43:00 PM
So im the girl in that pic... I love you baby!! just saying.. and you have always passed for a man.. for the last three years I been with you I always thought you were a man. I can't wait to take this journey with you. I love you more then life it's self..
That's very cute. :)
I'm glad you have such a supportive partner, Ryan.
Thanks bro
I love looking through these posts! you all are a great looking bunch!
ok, hi...
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Ok, not even binding here, I know I don't pass, but thought I'd throw on a full body pic...
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I'm pre-everything. I'm wondering what perception I'm starting with here.
wow... if I seen you in the streets I wouldn't second guess that you were not a guy... very well done my friend..
Quote from: MacG on January 31, 2014, 09:28:30 PM
I love looking through these posts! you all are a great looking bunch!
ok, hi...
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Ok, not even binding here, I know I don't pass, but thought I'd throw on a full body pic...
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I'm pre-everything. I'm wondering what perception I'm starting with here.
Quote from: MacG on January 31, 2014, 09:28:30 PM
I love looking through these posts! you all are a great looking bunch!
ok, hi...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F2ij1zid.jpg&hash=993c783af448845b8ced4dcbe785226dd2348e2b)
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Ok, not even binding here, I know I don't pass, but thought I'd throw on a full body pic...
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I'm pre-everything. I'm wondering what perception I'm starting with here.
You're pre-everything? What?!
You pass very well. It's hard to believe you were even born female.
Quote from: MacG on January 31, 2014, 09:28:30 PM
I love looking through these posts! you all are a great looking bunch!
ok, hi...
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Ok, not even binding here, I know I don't pass, but thought I'd throw on a full body pic...
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I'm pre-everything. I'm wondering what perception I'm starting with here.
You look all male to me!
MacG I wouldn't even for a second think you're not a guy, seriously, and you have such a handsome face!
If you hadn't said anything I would have guessed you were born a guy, never ever pre-everything!
Also you remind me of a friend xD
Hey thanks for the kind comments, you all :)
My voice is a dead give-away, and my 5'4" height doesn't help. I've lost a bunch of weight and am working on losing more, so I hope that helps the hips issue. I gotta big butt, too haharrrrrgh!
But the boobs... they're DD and I can hide under layers, but not in summer. But I haven't bought a real binder yet, so we'll see how flat I can get.
Quote from: natasov on January 30, 2014, 11:09:50 PM
So I realise it's likely I don't pass right now, but it's late at night and this is with everything down - I haven't done my hair, done any facial fixes (i.e. contours and shadows to make my face look more masculine etc), or even bound my chest. I'm pre-everything, and starting HRT in about 5 months, so I'm pretty damn excited and wanted to make some sorta post before the changes.
Wish me luck.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FoejehCa.png&hash=bb8d2628499c0f7ed410568d034bf2a89af6933e)
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NOTE: I'm fairly young in comparison to what I assume to be the average age around here, and new to this forum.
I think you are completely passable. I wouldn't questionit if we passed each other on the street.
Quote from: MacG on January 31, 2014, 09:28:30 PM
I love looking through these posts! you all are a great looking bunch!
I'm pre-everything. I'm wondering what perception I'm starting with here.
Vest shows a little, other than that, you pass. skip the vest and go for a jacket. Alternatively, get a vest that's just a shade loose and you'll be fine.
FAKE EDIT: also, these captchas are obnoxious. I'm hoping they eventually go away.
Turtletamer, thanks. I bought my first binder yesterday, so I think that's going to help with the giant boobs.
And the captchas do magically disappear! After a few more posts :)
36 y.o. Pre everything. I know I need to lose weight & gain muscle to offset my hips, but how close to passing am I now?
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Mitchel - you pass to me. That jacket is rockin'. Not a fan of the belt though, but it might just be because I can't see it too well. I'd go with a buckle that's more simple personally, not because I don't like the style but for some reason it just seems feminine at that distance. Anyways, you totally pass to me, man.
Mitchel, I think you pass quite well.
Quote from: Mitchel on February 08, 2014, 09:11:29 AM
36 y.o. Pre everything. I know I need to lose weight & gain muscle to offset my hips, but how close to passing am I now?
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You look very masculine to start with. What's throwing me a bit is firstly those earrings, and secondly your hairline imo is more feminine than masculine. That said, i'm so sure you will pass very quickly on T.
Thanks guys, I had been thinking of no ear rings for sometime now. Any tips on creating a more masculine hairline?
I would assume T would help in that regard after some months/years, but i noticed that it seems to be slightly longer and gelled up a little at the front? Maybe shaving that down will help.
Quote from: Bardoux on February 08, 2014, 11:07:57 AM
I would assume T would help in that regard after some months/years, but i noticed that it seems to be slightly longer and gelled up a little at the front? Maybe shaving that down will help.
Actually I think going shorter will make it worse, since it will show your hairline without hiding any of it. What I find seems to work is if you grow it out a bit, and have the sides and back of your head shorter than the front. Kind of like a Jensen Ackles/Dean Winchester haircut, but without spiking the front up so much.
I had my hair cut and the line "cleaned" up a bit and took out my ear rings. Also, I have a naturally occurring black patch of hair right up front, so it looks spiked up but it isn't.
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Quote from: Mitchel on February 08, 2014, 12:58:51 PM
I had my hair cut and the line "cleaned" up a bit and took out my ear rings. Also, I have a naturally occurring black patch of hair right up front, so it looks spiked up but it isn't.
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Looking awesome Mitchel! :)
Quote from: Mitchel on February 08, 2014, 12:58:51 PM
I had my hair cut and the line "cleaned" up a bit and took out my ear rings. Also, I have a naturally occurring black patch of hair right up front, so it looks spiked up but it isn't.
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I think you pass. You look great, man.
I've already posted here when I first became a member but I just want some more opinions. My dysphoria has gotten worse and I still think I look like a girl. An ugly girl. :(
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How do I look? Any suggestions?
Really do think you look like a guy Mr Hockey!
Quote from: Bardoux on February 08, 2014, 04:48:20 PM
Really do think you look like a guy Mr Hockey!
Really? Thanks! :)
Mr Hockey - I would just assume you're a guy if I met you. Im sure you pass better than you fear.
Quote from: Make_It_Good on February 08, 2014, 06:21:18 PM
Mr Hockey - I would just assume you're a guy if I met you. Im sure you pass better than you fear.
Thanks! It means a lot.
Mr hockey I think you pass really well...
we are our own worst critics as a lot of people here say :/
Quote from: FalsePrincess on February 08, 2014, 07:42:29 PM
Mr hockey I think you pass really well...
we are our own worst critics as a lot of people here say :/
Thank you!! :)
So, it has been a while since I last posted and well, I thought I would post again since I got a new haircut and I decided to color my hair back to its original color. So.... Think I pass? To tell the truth, I have not felt like I pass at all lately and my dysorphia has been getting to me pretty badly.
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Okey.... I know most of these are just silly pictures, but I have never been really good at staying still for a picture. But what do you all think? Pass or no?
Quote from: Dalex on February 09, 2014, 04:32:09 PM
So, it has been a while since I last posted and well, I thought I would post again since I got a new haircut and I decided to color my hair back to its original color. So.... Think I pass? To tell the truth, I have not felt like I pass at all lately and my dysorphia has been getting to me pretty badly.
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Okey.... I know most of these are just silly pictures, but I have never been really good at staying still for a picture. But what do you all think? Pass or no?
lol You look so intense in the first picture. XD
I say you pass, but I already thought you passed before, so I'll just say lookin good, brother!! ;D
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Sorry for the amount of pictures, but I've been meaning to ask, Do I pass? I'm pre-T and regularly have haircuts that mimic male-pattern baldness, since I think it helps. I also wear hats and caps a lot when going out in public and dark t-shirts since it helps make my chest less noticeable. My lips give me grief as they are the size of Jupiter. My face is long, but I'm not sure how angular it is.
By the way, the hair cut in the last two pictures isn't really recent, I usually let the middle grow longer and keep the sides short.
Also, how old do I look? I get mixed responses from my friends, many say I look a lot younger or a lot older than my actual age.
And any suggestions? What do you think will change with T? (:
Quote from: Dalex on February 09, 2014, 04:32:09 PM
So, it has been a while since I last posted and well, I thought I would post again since I got a new haircut and I decided to color my hair back to its original color. So.... Think I pass? To tell the truth, I have not felt like I pass at all lately and my dysorphia has been getting to me pretty badly.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1618613_10203202367163703_66387665_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/16103_10203202364963648_1809508244_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/1507021_10203202362603589_1485368028_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1688233_10203202364163628_613680078_n.jpg)
Okey.... I know most of these are just silly pictures, but I have never been really good at staying still for a picture. But what do you all think? Pass or no?
I think you pass. You look good. :
Quote from: Xenguy on February 09, 2014, 05:44:52 PM
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Sorry for the amount of pictures, but I've been meaning to ask, Do I pass? I'm pre-T and regularly have haircuts that mimic male-pattern baldness, since I think it helps. I also wear hats and caps a lot when going out in public and dark t-shirts since it helps make my chest less noticeable. My lips give me grief as they are the size of Jupiter. My face is long, but I'm not sure how angular it is.
By the way, the hair cut in the last two pictures isn't really recent, I usually let the middle grow longer and keep the sides short.
Also, how old do I look? I get mixed responses from my friends, many say I look a lot younger or a lot older than my actual age.
And any suggestions? What do you think will change with T? (:
I think you also pass just fine. You'll definitely look a lot more masculine on T; you look about 20 I think.
Quote from: Kaiden Liam on February 09, 2014, 05:41:16 PM
lol You look so intense in the first picture. XD
I say you pass, but I already thought you passed before, so I'll just say lookin good, brother!! ;D
Thanks Kai :)
Quote from: Xenguy on February 09, 2014, 05:44:52 PM
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Sorry for the amount of pictures, but I've been meaning to ask, Do I pass? I'm pre-T and regularly have haircuts that mimic male-pattern baldness, since I think it helps. I also wear hats and caps a lot when going out in public and dark t-shirts since it helps make my chest less noticeable. My lips give me grief as they are the size of Jupiter. My face is long, but I'm not sure how angular it is.
By the way, the hair cut in the last two pictures isn't really recent, I usually let the middle grow longer and keep the sides short.
Also, how old do I look? I get mixed responses from my friends, many say I look a lot younger or a lot older than my actual age.
And any suggestions? What do you think will change with T? (:
You are pre T? Wow O.O You have a nice head start, cause nothing there calls feminine for me. If I had not known better, I would have thought you were a cis guy. Looking good Xenguy, I'm looking forward to seeing how things will go for you with T :)
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi239.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff269%2FPosti_chan%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsede06533.jpg&hash=0dc035e88b5d04206bea2c37b27d25a9d3bda21e) (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/Posti_chan/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsede06533.jpg.html) little less derpy but meh
Just postin some pics here, I start T soon, see the endo for my first appointment next monday, and im very stoked. so obviously pics are pre everything. I've gotte sirred a few times but it's not so often cuz i look like im 5 0ut of selfy mode.
Quote from: BeefxCake on February 10, 2014, 11:47:24 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi239.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff269%2FPosti_chan%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F9506a33b-f1fc-4936-bb95-4d0a70c32345_zpsc272951c.jpg&hash=d7fe6bad89bbbb069bb62493a576fa16fbad09dd) (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/Posti_chan/media/Mobile%20Uploads/9506a33b-f1fc-4936-bb95-4d0a70c32345_zpsc272951c.jpg.html) Serious face looks derptastic wow.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi239.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff269%2FPosti_chan%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsede06533.jpg&hash=0dc035e88b5d04206bea2c37b27d25a9d3bda21e) (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/Posti_chan/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsede06533.jpg.html) little less derpy but meh
Just postin some pics here, I start T soon, see the endo for my first appointment next monday, and im very stoked. so obviously pics are pre everything. I've gotte sirred a few times but it's not so often cuz i look like im 5 0ut of selfy mode.
In the first pic you look really manly, so keep making derpy faces lol. Also you look 18 or so. And I like your shirt, I was looking for something like this, when I found I didn't have the money :-X Congrats on starting T soon! :)
haha awesome, I'm actually 19 so not far off. yeah, I wear a lot of bright colors. i like this blue shirt, got it at ross in my early days of crossdressing experimentation XD
I know last time I posted pics with hats on and mostly sitting down, so im a see how it goes with no hat and standing up. I'm pre T.
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Quote from: Ryan55 on February 13, 2014, 08:51:22 AM
I know last time I posted pics with hats on and mostly sitting down, so im a see how it goes with no hat and standing up. I'm pre T.
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I;m finding it really hard to even try to see you as a woman. Only hint maybe your hips and the way you may walk, but you are really looking good and pre-T as well! :o
Quote from: BeefxCake on February 10, 2014, 11:47:24 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi239.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff269%2FPosti_chan%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F9506a33b-f1fc-4936-bb95-4d0a70c32345_zpsc272951c.jpg&hash=d7fe6bad89bbbb069bb62493a576fa16fbad09dd) (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/Posti_chan/media/Mobile%20Uploads/9506a33b-f1fc-4936-bb95-4d0a70c32345_zpsc272951c.jpg.html) Serious face looks derptastic wow.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi239.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff269%2FPosti_chan%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsede06533.jpg&hash=0dc035e88b5d04206bea2c37b27d25a9d3bda21e) (http://s239.photobucket.com/user/Posti_chan/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsede06533.jpg.html) little less derpy but meh
Just postin some pics here, I start T soon, see the endo for my first appointment next monday, and im very stoked. so obviously pics are pre everything. I've gotte sirred a few times but it's not so often cuz i look like im 5 0ut of selfy mode.
You got a really nice base Beefcake! Your skin looks a little soft but you'll do great on T :)
Thanks bard, Yeah I have hips which kind of suck, hoping the T will help with that and I'm short like 5'3 lol
Quote from: Ryan55 on February 13, 2014, 08:51:22 AM
I know last time I posted pics with hats on and mostly sitting down, so im a see how it goes with no hat and standing up. I'm pre T.
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You look great dude. I see a little bit of femininity but not too noticeable.
thanks man
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This is me at work. How do I look?
Quote from: WileyCoyote on February 14, 2014, 12:54:25 AM
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This is me at work. How do I look?
Lookin' good, man. I wish I had your arms. It's hard to see any feminine features.
you look pretty manly to me wiley
None of these are very good photos, but they're the only candid ones that I have. I've edited out the others faces because I don't want to be putting photos up without their permission, but thought it would be useful to show just how small I am.
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/73111e19802fbd0ce2636c97542aa5e0/tumblr_n101qwqXk51rtuog4o1_500.jpg)
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I'm worried because I'm spending a weekend stealth to my friends parents at their house, with my girlfriend who's 21 and looks five or six years older than me. My friend and her girlfriend know about me, but not her parents, and I don't know how much they'll be seeing me. I know I used to pass, but I've rarely been around strangers for the last 6 months, so it's hard to tell. Also, how old do I look?
Quote from: lxndr on February 14, 2014, 01:37:46 PM
None of these are very good photos, but they're the only candid ones that I have. I've edited out the others faces because I don't want to be putting photos up without their permission, but thought it would be useful to show just how small I am.
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/73111e19802fbd0ce2636c97542aa5e0/tumblr_n101qwqXk51rtuog4o1_500.jpg)
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I'm worried because I'm spending a weekend stealth to my friends parents at their house, with my girlfriend who's 21 and looks five or six years older than me. My friend and her girlfriend know about me, but not her parents, and I don't know how much they'll be seeing me.
I think you look good. If you're trying to pass, you pass for sure.
I cut my own hair today. It looks ok I guess; still need some touching up in the back. What do you guy's think?
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Quote from: BeefxCake on February 11, 2014, 05:29:03 PM
haha awesome, I'm actually 19 so not far off. yeah, I wear a lot of bright colors. i like this blue shirt, got it at ross in my early days of crossdressing experimentation XD
Cool, you look your age pre-T ;) Wish you all the best!
Quote from: Ryan55 on February 13, 2014, 08:51:22 AM
I know last time I posted pics with hats on and mostly sitting down, so im a see how it goes with no hat and standing up. I'm pre T.
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Man, you look awesome, especially being pre-T! Pass.
Quote from: WileyCoyote on February 14, 2014, 12:54:25 AM
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This is me at work. How do I look?
Nothing feminine in you. Never would think you're anything but a guy.
Quote from: lxndr on February 14, 2014, 01:37:46 PM
None of these are very good photos, but they're the only candid ones that I have. I've edited out the others faces because I don't want to be putting photos up without their permission, but thought it would be useful to show just how small I am.
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/73111e19802fbd0ce2636c97542aa5e0/tumblr_n101qwqXk51rtuog4o1_500.jpg)
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/c7d44e6e5f53dad69ddcf542bfa2cf63/tumblr_n101qwqXk51rtuog4o2_1280.jpg)
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(https://31.media.tumblr.com/cb172b6c76a8091d48783a5466c6b914/tumblr_n101qwqXk51rtuog4o4_1280.jpg)
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(https://24.media.tumblr.com/3b3650e3409d42f764395a6e4d5ee012/tumblr_mzz089gnw11rtuog4o1_500.jpg)
I'm worried because I'm spending a weekend stealth to my friends parents at their house, with my girlfriend who's 21 and looks five or six years older than me. My friend and her girlfriend know about me, but not her parents, and I don't know how much they'll be seeing me. I know I used to pass, but I've rarely been around strangers for the last 6 months, so it's hard to tell. Also, how old do I look?
You also pass for sure. I don't know about your age, but you look about 16-18 I think.
Quote from: Mr Hockey on February 14, 2014, 08:01:11 PM
I cut my own hair today. It looks ok I guess; still need some touching up in the back. What do you guy's think?
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Nice haircut. I would ->-bleeped-<- it up myself I'm sure but you did a good job!
Quote from: Jared on February 15, 2014, 11:09:23 AM
Cool, you look your age pre-T ;) Wish you all the best!
Man, you look awesome, especially being pre-T! Pass.
Nothing feminine in you. Never would think you're anything but a guy.
You also pass for sure. I don't know about your age, but you look about 16-18 I think.
Nice haircut. I would ->-bleeped-<- it up myself I'm sure but you did a good job!
Thanks, you can see in my profile pic how long it was before. I wanted to cut it because I have really curly hair and it gets out of control when it gets long. I want to go to a barber though to get it shaved in the back.
Yep, mine gets annoyingly curly too when it gets longer but I didn't try to cut it myself, good job at cutting yours!
Thanks Jared
Quote from: Mr Hockey on February 14, 2014, 08:01:11 PM
I cut my own hair today. It looks ok I guess; still need some touching up in the back. What do you guy's think?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLKb3ZV2.jpg&hash=307a1d332e2cc37f8b6968d4cd80fb3d5366aa83)
Definitely look more male with it shorter. Good choice.
Quote from: Ryan55 on February 13, 2014, 08:51:22 AM
I know last time I posted pics with hats on and mostly sitting down, so im a see how it goes with no hat and standing up. I'm pre T.
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Definitely pass.
Quote from: Brett on February 15, 2014, 11:22:19 PM
Definitely look more male with it shorter. Good choice.
Thanks.
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I suspect I will pass better when I lose weight. I have some fat around my chin so it makes my face look a lot rounder. I pass nine times out of ten in public, but my voice is pretty deep, too.
Quote from: NathanExplosion on February 16, 2014, 04:25:12 PM
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I suspect I will pass better when I lose weight. I have some fat around my chin so it makes my face look a lot rounder. I pass nine times out of ten in public, but my voice is pretty deep, too.
You already pass very well, dude.
you pass to me Nathan, you might look a little young, but most cis guys do too when they shave the facial hair, looking good bro
Well since my boyfriend did it, let's give this a go:
this is the only recent one i have where im not making a face...whats with that...
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one of the boy and i (NathanExplosion here on the forum) at a hockey game about week or so ago.
I don't really feel very confident that I pass tbh, some of the time i do pass but mainly im mistaken for Nate's girlfriend...
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Dysphoria has been kicking me while I'm down lately, so I thought I'd post a recent pic.
Ignore the slightly swollen eye, it's just an infection.
Quote from: FlightyBrood on February 16, 2014, 06:25:37 PM
Well since my boyfriend did it, let's give this a go:
this is the only recent one i have where im not making a face...whats with that...
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one of the boy and i (NathanExplosion here on the forum) at a hockey game about week or so ago.
I don't really feel very confident that I pass tbh, some of the time i do pass but mainly im mistaken for Nate's girlfriend...
You and your boyfriend, Nathan look great.
Quote from: AlexW on February 17, 2014, 07:28:03 AM
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Dysphoria has been kicking me while I'm down lately, so I thought I'd post a recent pic.
Ignore the slightly swollen eye, it's just an infection.
I like your haircut. You look like a guy to me.
Quote from: WileyCoyote on February 14, 2014, 12:54:25 AM
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This is me at work. How do I look?
....uhhh hot. I agree, I see no feminine features. Just a hot guy haha
Quote from: Brett on February 15, 2014, 11:22:19 PM
Definitely look more male with it shorter. Good choice.
I agree Mr Hockey, good choice
Ah ha. I was thinking about it and WileyCoyote, you look a bit like my cis-male partner!
Quote from: Elijahwaits on February 18, 2014, 11:38:32 AM
....uhhh hot. I agree, I see no feminine features. Just a hot guy haha
I agree Mr Hockey, good choice
I'm unsure what to do with my hair though. Do I want a buzzcut or do I want a mohawk?
Quote from: Mr Hockey on February 18, 2014, 11:43:32 AM
I'm unsure what to do with my hair though. Do I want a buzzcut or do I want a mohawk?
IMO- buzzcut would look nice n you. maybe slightly more masculine than Mohawk. depend on your personal feeling though!
Pre-everything
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thoughts? I know I don't really full-body pass yet... damn you hips!
Quote from: Elijahwaits on February 18, 2014, 12:26:24 PM
Pre-everything
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thoughts? I know I don't really full-body pass yet... damn you hips!
You have a really masculine face. You'll look even better on T.
Quote from: Elijahwaits on February 18, 2014, 12:11:43 PM
IMO- buzzcut would look nice n you. maybe slightly more masculine than Mohawk. depend on your personal feeling though!
I'm kind of leaning towards a mohawk.
hey guys thank you for the compliments, much appreciation. Everyone looks awesome!
Selfie photo for a selfie haircut. I'm at around my 3 month mark on T. What do you guys think? Suggestions are welcome.
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Quote from: NathanExplosion on February 16, 2014, 04:25:12 PM
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Nathan, a pass in my books. You've got good foundations to build upon, too.
Quote from: FlightyBrood on February 16, 2014, 06:25:37 PM
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Good seein' you, Flighty! From the photos you've given us here, you pass 100% for me. I wouldn't think twice about your gender if I saw you randomly on the street.
Quote from: AlexW on February 17, 2014, 07:28:03 AM
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Pass for me, Alex - but you might benefit from a slightly different hairstyle. You have awesome masculine facial structure.
Quote from: Elijahwaits on February 18, 2014, 12:26:24 PM
Pre-everything
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You've got nil to worry about, mate.
Quote from: BrotherBen on February 20, 2014, 02:44:46 PM
Selfie photo for a selfie haircut. I'm at around my 3 month mark on T. What do you guys think? Suggestions are welcome.
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Total pass for me.
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pre-everything. I think my lips are my biggest problem because of their shape and color.
Quote from: pdw on February 21, 2014, 11:16:20 PM
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pre-everything. I think my lips are my biggest problem because of their shape and color.
You pass 100%. You honestly look like a cis-male. Don't see any female in your face at all.
Quote from: pdw on February 21, 2014, 11:16:20 PM
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pre-everything. I think my lips are my biggest problem because of their shape and color.
Pass for me too, you like a guy I went to school with.
ok so pre t and trying to figure out what to do with my hair lol
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Quote from: Ryan55 on February 23, 2014, 05:39:23 PM
ok so pre t and trying to figure out what to do with my hair lol
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Well if you want to cut it, I think taking just a little off the sides would suit you well. So, sort of a rocked out army styled hair cut?... Err, I'm not sure if I am making any sense here at all xD
But, I have to say, looking amazing for being pre T, a very nice jaw and chin structure you got going there. :)
thanks dalex, I appreciate it and yeah I'm going to get a haircut soon and trying to figure out what to do with it lol
Quote from: Ryan55 on February 23, 2014, 06:08:59 PM
thanks dalex, I appreciate it and yeah I'm going to get a haircut soon and trying to figure out what to do with it lol
I decided to see if I could just find pictures of what I was trying to describe.
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I think those hairstyles would suit the jawline you got. Hope these pictures can give you some ideas :)
i see what your saying, yeah i can def do the second pics haircut, thanks bro!
No problem :) Glad I could be of some help! Hope to see some pictures once you have had your hair cut (that is if you are willing to share, of course :P)
I posted here once before but wondering What you all think again lol. Today I ordered at McD's and they asked for my name since it was busy so I told them "Evan". They didn't blink or anything and the guy guessed right away after looking at the name that it was me. So yay! Still I'm very self-conscious right now especially because my voice. I'm 173cm (5'8~5'9) which also helps a bit I think. But I'm also really slim so all the winter clothes probably help. And then there are, of course, my hips... :/ So what do you guys think? Also how old do I look?
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Evan: You definitely pass to me, although you look to be a teenager (around 15-16). The hips aren't very obvious in your picture, I think you could try to offset that by working out your upper body, especially the shoulders. I really like your glasses, for some reason they make you look more masculine, perhaps due to the square-shape?
This pic is from awhile back ( month and a half? )but I'm pre-everything and just binding. I'm also curious as to how old I look v:!
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Quote from: Crowley on February 25, 2014, 08:41:04 PM
This pic is from awhile back ( month and a half? )but I'm pre-everything and just binding. I'm also curious as to how old I look v:!
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Crowley,
You've got a pretty boyish body, male-ish looking upper body and not big hips and caboose. Nothing that screams female about your face either. I have a gut feeling that you are going to have an excellent outcome to your transition.
Beaver: Thanks! Maybe I should start working on those push ups and pull ups then (since I can't get a gym membership). Yeah the glasses were a bit of a gamble since I got them online but I think it really worked out this time.
Hey everyone,
I've been hovering around these forums for a while but never posted. I just came out to friends as trans and I have an appointment with a doctor to talk about HRT on Monday. Wow.
I used to pass okay when I was younger, but now I'm older and it's hard. I wanted to see what you guys thought about my ->-bleeped-<-ty webcam pictures. I'm small and don't have the deepest voice so I feel like I'm doomed.
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okay ive posted here before but how about a full body pic?
this is a year and four months on t, two weeks and one day top surgery post op:
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i never feel like i pass but...i always seem to. is it just me?
Quote from: Whynaut on February 28, 2014, 10:00:03 PM
Hey everyone,
I've been hovering around these forums for a while but never posted. I just came out to friends as trans and I have an appointment with a doctor to talk about HRT on Monday. Wow.
I used to pass okay when I was younger, but now I'm older and it's hard. I wanted to see what you guys thought about my ->-bleeped-<-ty webcam pictures. I'm small and don't have the deepest voice so I feel like I'm doomed.
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I don't know what you sound like, but I think you could probably pass but to me, it's the hairstyle that throws me off. I feel like if your hair were shorter at the sides it would make a difference.
Quote from: FlightyBrood on February 28, 2014, 11:39:39 PM
okay ive posted here before but how about a full body pic?
this is a year and four months on t, two weeks and one day top surgery post op:
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i never feel like i pass but...i always seem to. is it just me?
You pass to me
Don't mind me, just passing through to say we got some fine looking men on here!
;)
Okay so It's been a while since I first posted on here. So I'm pre-t and binding now. My voice is deep enough that if I talk in a low tone you wouldn't think I am female. I'm going to start testosterone in August.
Let me know. Do I pass? No sugarcoating plz :)
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I need to get me some full body shorts.
This is the only I have and It's been a while since I took it.
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Caleb: You pass in my eyes but you look maybe 14-16, if that matters. I'm a high school teacher so I'm pretty comfortable judging teenagers' ages. c:
Quote from: Whynaut on March 01, 2014, 12:39:44 PM
Caleb: You pass in my eyes but you look maybe 14-16, if that matters. I'm a high school teacher so I'm pretty comfortable judging teenagers' ages. c:
Aww it's cool. I am only recently 18.
So i'm pre T....do i pass?
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Leroy: I read you as a 12-14 year old boy from that picture. So yeah, you'd pass to me.
Whynaut and FlightyBrood, no offense guys, but I think you could both pass better with different hair cuts/styling. I think maybe if your overall style was maybe a little punkier or something, your hairstyle might read differently in that context though, Flighty.
Quote from: Whynaut on March 01, 2014, 09:15:40 PM
Leroy: I read you as a 12-14 year old boy from that picture. So yeah, you'd pass to me.
i'm actually 19, but at least i pass. But my voice is so high pitched that i never pass IRL, unfortunately. And thanks for the feedback btw.
Quote from: BrotherBen on March 01, 2014, 09:34:17 PM
Whynaut and FlightyBrood, no offense guys, but I think you could both pass better with different hair cuts/styling. I think maybe if your overall style was maybe a little punkier or something, your hairstyle might read differently in that context though, Flighty.
no offense taken, thats why i posted here.
im actually due for a cut monday. what do you think i should go for? dont know how to make my style any punkier than it is without a studded leather jacket. i wear skinnies and docs every day, lol!
Quote from: BrotherBen on March 01, 2014, 09:34:17 PM
Whynaut and FlightyBrood, no offense guys, but I think you could both pass better with different hair cuts/styling. I think maybe if your overall style was maybe a little punkier or something, your hairstyle might read differently in that context though, Flighty.
Thanks. I'm not entirely sure what to do with it. I don't know if I should go for the shaggy curl look or just trim the sides up. I'm not interested in shaving it because I'm just not into that hairstyle on myself, though I know it can be masculine.
Here's more what my hair normally does, but I thought this style was more feminine than being parted on the side and brushed across.
Taken with my phone which unfortunately makes everything look purple. My hair is actually red/auburn and the plastic frame glasses are black.
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Also bonus recording of my voice. [edit]
Does anyone else notice their voice sounds higher through media? My phone voice sounds like a 12 year old girl.
Quote from: Whynaut on March 01, 2014, 10:49:18 PM
Thanks. I'm not entirely sure what to do with it. I don't know if I should go for the shaggy curl look or just trim the sides up. I'm not interested in shaving it because I'm just not into that hairstyle on myself, though I know it can be masculine.
Here's more what my hair normally does, but I thought this style was more feminine than being parted on the side and brushed across.
Taken with my phone which unfortunately makes everything look purple. My hair is actually red/auburn and the plastic frame glasses are black.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/cheres/me/0301142026.jpg (http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/cheres/me/0301142026.jpg) http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/cheres/me/0301142027.jpg (http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/cheres/me/0301142027.jpg)
Also bonus recording of my voice. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjTn4t9cSt4&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjTn4t9cSt4&feature=youtu.be)
Does anyone else notice their voice sounds higher through media? My phone voice sounds like a 12 year old girl.
I think you should decide on a men's cut before you go to the salon (and bring a picture), or just be straight up honest with the stylist and tell her you want a men's cut and for her to give you the most masculine cut that would fit your face.
Pre-testosterone, I was never misgendered when I had long hair. The day I cut it short, most people thought I was a female, so I buzzed it, and that made the situation even worse. I don't recommend short hair anymore unless you look especially masculine; I think it adds too much to the "butch lesbian" look a lot of us have when we're still early into treatments (and a bit longer for some people).
Quote from: LeroyG on March 01, 2014, 08:32:21 PM
So i'm pre T....do i pass?
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I think you pass. You don't look too female to me.
Quote from: Caleb18 on March 01, 2014, 11:22:02 AM
Okay so It's been a while since I first posted on here. So I'm pre-t and binding now. My voice is deep enough that if I talk in a low tone you wouldn't think I am female. I'm going to start testosterone in August.
Let me know. Do I pass? No sugarcoating plz :)
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I need to get me some full body shorts.
This is the only I have and It's been a while since I took it.
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Yeah, you look about 15 or 16 but you pass for sure. You look nice.
Quote from: Declan. on March 02, 2014, 08:50:54 AM
Pre-testosterone, I was never misgendered when I had long hair. The day I cut it short, most people thought I was a female, so I buzzed it, and that made the situation even worse. I don't recommend short hair anymore unless you look especially masculine; I think it adds too much to the "butch lesbian" look a lot of us have when we're still early into treatments (and a bit longer for some people).
I noticed that too. I don't think I could have pulled off extra long hair, but when my hair was too short, I did look a lot more feminine. I never passed period, but the people who knew me as trans remembered to call me "he" a lot more when my hair was a bit longer. When I buzzed it, no one ever got it right even though they were really trying.
Quote from: Declan. on March 02, 2014, 08:50:54 AM
Pre-testosterone, I was never misgendered when I had long hair. The day I cut it short, most people thought I was a female, so I buzzed it, and that made the situation even worse. I don't recommend short hair anymore unless you look especially masculine; I think it adds too much to the "butch lesbian" look a lot of us have when we're still early into treatments (and a bit longer for some people).
same thing happened to me. i got the courage after mostly passing and being on t a while to mohawk my hair. suddenly to the outside eye i had become a lesbian.
whats with that man
Quote from: FlightyBrood on March 02, 2014, 02:16:33 PM
same thing happened to me. i got the courage after mostly passing and being on t a while to mohawk my hair. suddenly to the outside eye i had become a lesbian.
whats with that man
Not my thread so I hope you don't mind me adding my observations, but as you know a lot of men these days do wear their hair longer than do some real angular faced alpha males and it works for them and frankly they look better than if they are wearing a crew cut. Let me suggest that many FtM's have not gone through 30 - 40 years of masculinizing and their features are often a lot softer and more youthful appearing than a cis male contemporary and so it does work much better to wear your hair longer like so many cis males with softer features do. Just my opinion, hope I don't step on anyone's toes.
Hey guys! Thought I'd give this ago. I'm 99.999% sure I don't pass in the slightest, but I think everyone in this thread seem to be aware of subtle things that stop you from being able to pass. Anyway, I know I've got long hair, but since they're dreadlocks, I don't think that's what people think makes me a girl, and I don't think a short haircut would make me look like a guy at all. I think it's just make me look like a girl with short hair. But yeah, so...thoughts?
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Quote from: ANattyRat on March 02, 2014, 05:32:22 PM
Hey guys! Thought I'd give this ago. I'm 99.999% sure I don't pass in the slightest, but I think everyone in this thread seem to be aware of subtle things that stop you from being able to pass. Anyway, I know I've got long hair, but since they're dreadlocks, I don't think that's what people think makes me a girl, and I don't think a short haircut would make me look like a guy at all. I think it's just make me look like a girl with short hair. But yeah, so...thoughts?
Short hair cut definitely will probably help.
Using myself as an example
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changed to
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Quote from: ANattyRat on March 02, 2014, 05:32:22 PM
Hey guys! Thought I'd give this ago. I'm 99.999% sure I don't pass in the slightest, but I think everyone in this thread seem to be aware of subtle things that stop you from being able to pass. Anyway, I know I've got long hair, but since they're dreadlocks, I don't think that's what people think makes me a girl, and I don't think a short haircut would make me look like a guy at all. I think it's just make me look like a girl with short hair. But yeah, so...thoughts?
i think you pass, and i also think that you would fit short hair, however if you like it long you should keep it that way.
now i'm debating about letting my hair grow out...damn it guys, can't wait til worrying about passing is behind me but anattyrat, you pass to me, i dig the dreadlocks
Quote from: Shantel on March 02, 2014, 05:14:15 PM
Not my thread so I hope you don't mind me adding my observations, but as you know a lot of men these days do wear their hair longer than do some real angular faced alpha males and it works for them and frankly they look better than if they are wearing a crew cut. Let me suggest that many FtM's have not gone through 30 - 40 years of masculinizing and their features are often a lot softer and more youthful appearing than a cis male contemporary and so it does work much better to wear your hair longer like so many cis males with softer features do. Just my opinion, hope I don't step on anyone's toes.
This right here. It is easy to forget when you are feeling confident about how you look that most guys that rock awesome mohawks are cis and have been going through what we are just barely going through their entire lives. Not saying trans guys cant pass with mohawks, but its definitely harder. I know a few younger cis guys that didnt even pass with hair like that!
Longer hair tends to have shadows that shape the face differently too, when its all out of your face you can see very clearly every feature, so if you have even a slightly soft face it pops out. something to keep in mind when choosing pre-t hairstyles.
So I'm pretty new here, but want to get straight to the case xD Do i pass in your eyes?
in my home town I've passed id say 80% of the time when talking to people i don't know. a teacher I've had for 1 and a half year still thinks I'm a guy etc. and my dentist thinks I'm a guy even after i had a long chat with her and she knew i was 18.. like.. what is it that makes me pass? i have such a freaking baby face x_x I've been complimented for walking and sitting/standing like a guy though(from grown ups who knew i was ftm) might that be why? and what do you guys think of my hair cut? should i stick to the a bit longer one or the new one i have now? I'm not sure. i don't feel uncomfortable in either so id prefer to have the most masculine one. sorry for all the questions xD
How i look today
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2013
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2012
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Quote from: Chriskon on March 03, 2014, 02:43:59 AM
So I'm pretty new here, but want to get straight to the case xD Do i pass in your eyes?
in my home town I've passed id say 80% of the time when talking to people i don't know. a teacher I've had for 1 and a half year still thinks I'm a guy etc. and my dentist thinks I'm a guy even after i had a long chat with her and she knew i was 18.. like.. what is it that makes me pass? i have such a freaking baby face x_x I've been complimented for walking and sitting/standing like a guy though(from grown ups who knew i was ftm) might that be why? and what do you guys think of my hair cut? should i stick to the a bit longer one or the new one i have now? I'm not sure. i don't feel uncomfortable in either so id prefer to have the most masculine one. sorry for all the questions xD
I think you pass! I think your haircut helps a LOT, but I just think in general you've got the kind of features that help you pass. That said, if you told me you were 18, I'd be like, "Wow, really? You look so young!" haha.
haha xD
Quote from: ANattyRat on March 02, 2014, 05:32:22 PM
Hey guys! Thought I'd give this ago. I'm 99.999% sure I don't pass in the slightest, but I think everyone in this thread seem to be aware of subtle things that stop you from being able to pass. Anyway, I know I've got long hair, but since they're dreadlocks, I don't think that's what people think makes me a girl, and I don't think a short haircut would make me look like a guy at all. I think it's just make me look like a girl with short hair. But yeah, so...thoughts?
I would try to find a shirt that fits more like an adult male -- something I am currently struggling with.
I was an alternative kid growing up and I live in a liberal area so I've seen a ton of dreads. What I've noticed is that women often wear their dreads down and men tie them back into a ponytail. You might try doing something like that. It will probably help more if you live in an area where dreads are common, but other areas might just see you as a woman with a ponytail.
Quote from: Chriskon on March 03, 2014, 02:43:59 AM
So I'm pretty new here, but want to get straight to the case xD Do i pass in your eyes?
in my home town I've passed id say 80% of the time when talking to people i don't know. a teacher I've had for 1 and a half year still thinks I'm a guy etc. and my dentist thinks I'm a guy even after i had a long chat with her and she knew i was 18.. like.. what is it that makes me pass? i have such a freaking baby face x_x I've been complimented for walking and sitting/standing like a guy though(from grown ups who knew i was ftm) might that be why? and what do you guys think of my hair cut? should i stick to the a bit longer one or the new one i have now? I'm not sure. i don't feel uncomfortable in either so id prefer to have the most masculine one. sorry for all the questions xD
How i look today
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2013
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2012
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Definitely the shorter hair one. You pass better with that one, plus I think you just look better (more attractive), and older, with that cut.
Quote from: Whynaut on March 03, 2014, 11:42:45 AM
I would try to find a shirt that fits more like an adult male -- something I am currently struggling with.
I was an alternative kid growing up and I live in a liberal area so I've seen a ton of dreads. What I've noticed is that women often wear their dreads down and men tie them back into a ponytail. You might try doing something like that. It will probably help more if you live in an area where dreads are common, but other areas might just see you as a woman with a ponytail.
Thanks for your input :) do you mean a shirt that isn't so baggy? And yeah, I've noticed guys with dreads tie them back in a low ponytail, so I'm going to try that.
Quote from: ANattyRat on March 03, 2014, 04:54:25 PM
Thanks for your input :) do you mean a shirt that isn't so baggy? And yeah, I've noticed guys with dreads tie them back in a low ponytail, so I'm going to try that.
Yeah, one more form-fitting. Baggy shirts are okay for passing as a boy, but I think clothes that fit better make you look more like an adult guy.
Got my hair cut today and I think it looks pretty damn good. Warning: extreme ugliness below.
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You're not ugly Calder. And I like your haircut! I would say that you'd probably pass to me, but only if you carried yourself with confidence.
Calder, I agree with birkin, I don't think you're ugly at all. I think your facial features are quite masculine, your lips aren't too pouty, and your cheekbones aren't very prominent. Is it strange to say that I think you have masculine eyebrows?
Well, thanks guys. I have very little self-confidence.
Beaver, my eyebrows look masculine? I think they're feminine looking like my eyes.
Quote from: Chriskon on March 03, 2014, 02:43:59 AM
So I'm pretty new here, but want to get straight to the case xD Do i pass in your eyes?
in my home town I've passed id say 80% of the time when talking to people i don't know. a teacher I've had for 1 and a half year still thinks I'm a guy etc. and my dentist thinks I'm a guy even after i had a long chat with her and she knew i was 18.. like.. what is it that makes me pass? i have such a freaking baby face x_x I've been complimented for walking and sitting/standing like a guy though(from grown ups who knew i was ftm) might that be why? and what do you guys think of my hair cut? should i stick to the a bit longer one or the new one i have now? I'm not sure. i don't feel uncomfortable in either so id prefer to have the most masculine one. sorry for all the questions xD
How i look today
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2013
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2012
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Shorter hair for sure. How long have been on T for? Don't worry about the baby face, I had a really hard time with getting ID'd whilst i was studying at University. I used to dread waiting in queues for clubs or ordering a drink at the bar as i would always get asked for ID or laughed at. At 18 i looked about 14-16 i suppose. As you age though, the skin texture changes and makes a big difference. That and my small frame started to fill out a bit more. You'll be fine mate :)
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on March 09, 2014, 09:58:15 AM
Hard to see cause the pic is a tiny bit blurry, but to me Your eyebrows looks kinda neutral. And I would not say that Your eyes are feminine looking - the expression is a bit mischievous and You have that smirk/grin and that's it. The overall impression is pretty much boyish, IMO :).
Thanks! :)
So, I'm back, with a couple more recent pictures, still pre-everything, but I'm seeing a therapist and planning on starting T soon. What parts of my face look masculine or feminine? and how old do I look? I'm definitely going for older rather than younger. (:
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@Calder- I think your eyebrows look perfect, they don't seem to make your face look feminine at all, they fit you great. 8D..... Also, nice smirk. xD
Quote from: Xenguy on March 09, 2014, 05:12:32 PM
So, I'm back, with a couple more recent pictures, still pre-everything, but I'm seeing a therapist and planning on starting T soon. What parts of my face look masculine or feminine? and how old do I look? I'm actually 15, but I'm definitely going for older rather than younger. (:
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@Calder- I think your eyebrows look perfect, they don't seem to make your face look feminine at all, they fit you great. 8D..... Also, nice smirk. xD
Thanks! I smirk in my photos all the time because I hate my teeth and don't want to fully smile.
You may want to edit your post, if I remember correctly if you're under-18 it's against the rules to post your age. Just giving you a heads up. :)
I say you look about 16. I don't see anything feminine that stands out.. maybe your lips but ah, I think you pass.
Quote from: Calder Smith on March 08, 2014, 07:43:35 PM
Got my hair cut today and I think it looks pretty damn good. Warning: extreme ugliness below.
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No ugliness! Your hair looks awesome, and I you pass to me :)
Quote from: Xenguy on March 09, 2014, 05:12:32 PM
So, I'm back, with a couple more recent pictures, still pre-everything, but I'm seeing a therapist and planning on starting T soon. What parts of my face look masculine or feminine? and how old do I look? I'm definitely going for older rather than younger. (:
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@Calder- I think your eyebrows look perfect, they don't seem to make your face look feminine at all, they fit you great. 8D..... Also, nice smirk. xD
I don't see any features I see as feminine, you definitely pass to me, and I'd say you look about 16 or 17.
Xenguy - Definite pass to me. I wouldn't think twice about it seeing you on the street
Quote from: Calder Smith on March 08, 2014, 10:19:17 PM
Well, thanks guys. I have very little self-confidence.
Beaver, my eyebrows look masculine? I think they're feminine looking like my eyes.
It's all about the shape, man.
@xenguy
You could never pass as female looking like that...
you look totally cis male
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Quote from: dylanjakoby on March 11, 2014, 10:18:57 AM
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Yeah, you're a good looking kid! The red framed big sunglasses scream girl though! You already have delicate facial features and big glasses only tend to exacerbate it.
Quote from: dylanjakoby on March 11, 2014, 10:18:57 AM
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Dude, I don't know if its the lighting, or if you got on T (?), but you look way older now... At least to me. :P
Quote from: Shantel on March 11, 2014, 10:42:19 AM
Yeah, you're a good looking kid! The red framed big sunglasses scream girl though! You already have delicate facial features and big glasses only tend to exacerbate it.
They were 5 dollars and they match my car and i needed sunglasses so i got them haha.
Quote from: randomdude5 on March 11, 2014, 12:54:18 PM
Dude, I don't know if its the lighting, or if you got on T (?), but you look way older now... At least to me. :P
I am about 8 months on T now, i finally don't look 12 anymore!!!!
You guys simply look stunning!
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I'm still Pre-T, even though I have a baby face I think I pass.
Quote from: Chreestophaw on March 13, 2014, 08:11:52 AM
You guys simply look stunning!
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I'm still Pre-T, even though I have a baby face I think I pass.
You look cisgender. I would have never guessed you weren't if you hadn't said anything.
@castle of glass
Not on T yet. still in the process :/
Chreestophaw, I agree with Declan. You look totally cis! Of course I cannot say anything about your voice, body shape, way you carry yourself, etc. which often is even more important than 'just' the face.
I am pretty tall and look generally pretty andro/masculine, for example, but because my voice clearly is female, I hardly ever pass when I speak. And I also got a babyface. It's common amongst transguys I think, lol :P Actually quite logical, cause pre-puberty guys ALSO have a babyface. The testosterone gives them the masculine look, and cause we don't have natural T... we all have these 'cute' and 'round' babyfaces, lol. One slight reassurance might be; it goes away! ;)
I told you guys that once I put contacts in, I'd post again, so here you go. I feel pretty good about how I look today.
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Quote from: CursedFireDean on March 15, 2014, 12:31:00 PM
I told you guys that once I put contacts in, I'd post again, so here you go. I feel pretty good about how I look today.
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I think you look a lot more male with no glasses. And, it looks like you've gotten your hair cut since the last picture; that makes a difference as well.
You look good!
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on March 15, 2014, 01:11:46 PM
You do look as a quite typical teenage guy. And I was a bit astonished to see this picture because of Your facial features, which resembled very much someone I knew. It was almost like looking back into past...
He does for sure!
First off, I need a haircut but as I'm not out at work I need to be careful of what sort of cut I get so I'm undecided at this point. I'm thinking of getting another faux hawk, but I feel too old for that style now. I don't know that I would spike it up but the option would be cool. Anyway, here is me trying to pass with my petite frame. What do you guys say? Posture, facial expression, clothing? Is my binder okay? I feel like I look lumpy from the front, but look okay from the side.
Sorry about the purple color -- my phone camera is ->-bleeped-<-.
All I request is that you don't quote the images. I'll take them down shortly because I'm a bit paranoid about having my picture online [wish I could be out and making cool YouTube videos about my transition, but I need to watch out for my career, too].
Quote from: Whynaut on March 16, 2014, 11:53:16 AM
First off, I need a haircut but as I'm not out at work I need to be careful of what sort of cut I get so I'm undecided at this point. I'm thinking of getting another faux hawk, but I feel too old for that style now. I don't know that I would spike it up but the option would be cool. Anyway, here is me trying to pass with my petite frame. What do you guys say? Posture, facial expression, clothing? Is my binder okay? I feel like I look lumpy from the front, but look okay from the side.
Sorry about the purple color -- my phone camera is ->-bleeped-<-.
All I request is that you don't quote the images. I'll take them down shortly because I'm a bit paranoid about having my picture online [wish I could be out and making cool YouTube videos about my transition, but I need to watch out for my career, too].
Hope you don't mind as this isn't my forum but I felt compelled to comment, you look just fine and you're right, a more boyish hair cut is going to do you a favor. Just go to a barber shop and tell the barber you want a regular male type haircut. As for the lumpy concerns, the pattern on the shirt works in your favor but the button down patch pockets on the chest tends to visually exacerbate any moobage concerns. I've had to deal with that as I don't generally present in a really female mode like the MtF folks prefer to do and I steer clear of shirts with button down breast pockets.
Quote from: Whynaut on March 16, 2014, 11:53:16 AM
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I think you look great! Maybe trying a more "male" haircut will favor your ability to pass?
So, lately what has been bothering me very much lately is my voice, especially when I sing. Singing is something that when I can loose myself in it, I greatly enjoy. But lately I have just kept my mouth shut when I have the chance, since just hearing my voice sends a shiver down my spine since it sounds so feminine to me.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1w4nASYRcJY
This is how I sound. Well, singing at least. Can't really record myself talking since, well, I'm not alone at the moment. So, I thought I would just do a short recording of me singing as deep as I can go, and it is in the same depth I have been trying to always speak. What do you all think? Can't wait to start T, mostly due to the voice change that will come of it.
CursedFireDean Looking good! The jacket suits you well and that haircut is lookin' good! I would say a very much pass.
Whynaut, you actually look like a guy I used to work with. The only difference is that his hair is slightly curlier, shorter and he is blond :P
@Shantel: Thanks. c: I was hoping the pockets on the shirt would cause them to focus on the clothing instead of the body beneath it but I could be wrong here.
@930310: Thanks. I want to pass so badly it's all I can focus on sometimes. I definitely need a male haircut. I have some I've been considering but the next step is finding the right place to go.
@Dalex: Cool! I'm glad I look somewhat male at least.
Also, hearing your voice definitely makes me think male (and makes me jealous because mine is small and squeaky). You sound like a young guy and a good vocalist on top of that.
Thanks Whynaut, it means a lot to hear that :) Though, when I listen to the recording, all I hear is a female voice sadly... But it does give me confidence that a stranger reads the voice as male :)
Quote from: Dalex on March 16, 2014, 06:31:17 PM
So, lately what has been bothering me very much lately is my voice, especially when I sing. Singing is something that when I can loose myself in it, I greatly enjoy. But lately I have just kept my mouth shut when I have the chance, since just hearing my voice sends a shiver down my spine since it sounds so feminine to me.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1w4nASYRcJY
This is how I sound. Well, singing at least. Can't really record myself talking since, well, I'm not alone at the moment. So, I thought I would just do a short recording of me singing as deep as I can go, and it is in the same depth I have been trying to always speak. What do you all think? Can't wait to start T, mostly due to the voice change that will come of it.
I'm with Whynaut on this, you sound male all the way Even when you're singing the higher parts. You sound like a pretty good singer too!
Quote from: Chreestophaw on March 13, 2014, 08:11:52 AM
You guys simply look stunning!
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I'm still Pre-T, even though I have a baby face I think I pass.
You absolutely pass!
Thanks everyone! I'm lucky to have a deep voice as well, so no one really finds out about me until they see my chest >:(
Quote from: Dalex on March 16, 2014, 06:31:17 PM
So, lately what has been bothering me very much lately is my voice, especially when I sing. Singing is something that when I can loose myself in it, I greatly enjoy. But lately I have just kept my mouth shut when I have the chance, since just hearing my voice sends a shiver down my spine since it sounds so feminine to me.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1w4nASYRcJY
This is how I sound. Well, singing at least. Can't really record myself talking since, well, I'm not alone at the moment. So, I thought I would just do a short recording of me singing as deep as I can go, and it is in the same depth I have been trying to always speak. What do you all think? Can't wait to start T, mostly due to the voice change that will come of it.
I agree with the others! You definitely sound male.
@ Dalex, yes I agree too! Your voice sounds very male to me! Like, a young teen's voice, say 15/17 yrs. Definitely not like a girl!
Hey again guys, I tried doing the same thing Erik does for the facial hair and I took a pic before I had to wash it away because my mother walked in :(
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I was satisfied with it, such a shame.
Quote from: Chris R. on March 17, 2014, 01:17:03 PM
Hey again guys, I tried doing the same thing Erik does for the facial hair and I took a pic before I had to wash it away because my mother walked in :(
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FY9XNUJC.jpg&hash=41ec19e56ab5ebc6735d5acadd4cf01af6878e17)
I was satisfied with it, such a shame.
Wow, you look really good with facial hair! You'll definitely look great on T.
Quote from: Chris R. on March 17, 2014, 01:17:03 PM
Hey again guys, I tried doing the same thing Erik does for the facial hair and I took a pic before I had to wash it away because my mother walked in :(
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FY9XNUJC.jpg&hash=41ec19e56ab5ebc6735d5acadd4cf01af6878e17)
I was satisfied with it, such a shame.
You look very masculine in the picture!
Quote from: Chris R. on March 17, 2014, 01:17:03 PM
Hey again guys, I tried doing the same thing Erik does for the facial hair and I took a pic before I had to wash it away because my mother walked in :(
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FY9XNUJC.jpg&hash=41ec19e56ab5ebc6735d5acadd4cf01af6878e17)
I was satisfied with it, such a shame.
Dude, such convincing facial hair! Nicely done. When I did my mascara facial hair, I had the world's silliest-looking mustache ever, haha.
And Dalex, nice singing :) I agree that you sound like a young guy.
jason c you totally pass. I'm so jealous. I agree with 930310 that you look very masculine
and dalex, your voice works as a young male.
Whoa Chris, looking good :) My first thought when I saw your pic was "Why does someone who's on T and already grows facial hair still asks whether he PASSES!? For God's sake!" and then I read it was fake, just like mine :P
I usually do the hair when my parents are away for a while, so I have the time to enjoy it, haha. But once they came home unexpected and I had to rush to get it off my face as well, lol. I used black makeup for a few times, and my dad was like "Eh, are those... sideburns?" when he saw me. Apparently I missed cleaning a spot. Oops :x
Thanks everyone :) I am really happy to hear that my voice passes, even thouggh it passes for a young male :)
Thank you guys! I've always loved facial hair and I can't wait to have a real beard someday! :P
Quote from: Erik Ezrin on March 18, 2014, 04:08:18 AM
Whoa Chris, looking good :) My first thought when I saw your pic was "Why does someone who's on T and already grows facial hair still asks whether he PASSES!? For God's sake!" and then I read it was fake, just like mine :P
I usually do the hair when my parents are away for a while, so I have the time to enjoy it, haha. But once they came home unexpected and I had to rush to get it off my face as well, lol. I used black makeup for a few times, and my dad was like "Eh, are those... sideburns?" when he saw me. Apparently I missed cleaning a spot. Oops :x
Haha, thanks! I used to do the facial hair with random stuff, and my parents never saw me, thankfully.
I can't believe I'm doing this. I know I don't pass. Is it possible that someday, with T or something I could pass.
(https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1486675_643444405690622_1849069774_n.jpg)
pictures are so freaking hard for me. I never cooperate. All my friends and coworkers know how much I hate it. Today was my idea, but when my friend went to take it I was feeling so self-conscious and ugh, so that's why the weird face with my tongue sticking out.
<runs and hides>
Quote from: tomboy on March 21, 2014, 07:55:39 PM
I can't believe I'm doing this. I know I don't pass. Is it possible that someday, with T or something I could pass.
(https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1486675_643444405690622_1849069774_n.jpg)
pictures are so freaking hard for me. I never cooperate. All my friends and coworkers know how much I hate it. Today was my idea, but when my friend went to take it I was feeling so self-conscious and ugh, so that's why the weird face with my tongue sticking out.
<runs and hides>
its ok
its not that you dont pass , you pass from this pic
even if some people see you as female now things will change with T :)
good luck :)
@tomboy:
It's hard to tell if your face passes, but your chest looks super flat.
you both just made me happy. thanks.
Quote from: mcZ on March 21, 2014, 10:58:36 PM
@tomboy:
It's hard to tell if your face passes, but your chest looks super flat.
my face is doesn't pass. I know that. >:(
I think you pass (though a more serious pic would be better to judge from), I just think if I saw you randomly, I'd assume you were a super-young guy.
I think it depends. I always have a hard time NOT seeing you guys as... well... guys, because I know that's what you are.
But I think you don't look that bad at all. Okay, you look really, really young (way before teenage years), but for the rest... T will fix that soon enough, and your chest is super flat indeed.
Chris that beard and stash look badass. I wanna try that out now.
Also, Tomboy, there's nothing that really says "female" to me in that picture. Cool shirt btw
Quote from: tomboy on March 21, 2014, 07:55:39 PM
I can't believe I'm doing this. I know I don't pass. Is it possible that someday, with T or something I could pass.
(https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1486675_643444405690622_1849069774_n.jpg)
pictures are so freaking hard for me. I never cooperate. All my friends and coworkers know how much I hate it. Today was my idea, but when my friend went to take it I was feeling so self-conscious and ugh, so that's why the weird face with my tongue sticking out.
<runs and hides>
Boy haircut: check.
Boy eyebrows: check
Wonderfully dark thick boy eyelashes: check
Harry Potter glasses: check
Boy clothes and silhouette: check
Boy pose: check
Nothing in that picture sets off a girl alert to me.
Quote from: Evan of Spades on March 22, 2014, 05:08:21 AM
Chris that beard and stash look badass. I wanna try that out now.
Also, Tomboy, there's nothing that really says "female" to me in that picture. Cool shirt btw
Thanks Evan! You should try it out :D
I also agree with everyone else, Tomboy, you look male to me!
I think it's the bowel cut that's throwing me off.
you guys have totally made my day. Thanks. at least I know there's some hope.
And today at the hardware store, the guy called me sir. He quickly corrected himself and said ma'am so maybe it was a total slip of the tongue but I'm hoping that sir was based a bit on how I look.
bowel cut? oh man, the imagine in my brain.
Quote from: tomboy on March 22, 2014, 10:57:03 PM
you guys have totally made my day. Thanks. at least I know there's some hope.
And today at the hardware store, the guy called me sir. He quickly corrected himself and said ma'am so maybe it was a total slip of the tongue but I'm hoping that sir was based a bit on how I look.
Nice :)
and dont worry people will start calling you sir more every day as long as you move forward :)
Hey guys, here's my dumb pic:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2Fiz7xur.jpg&hash=a13013ec6e941977a389c0cbb4ed4f34a3305895)
Do I pass? (and how old?) I genuinely can't tell, and any advice would be cool.
Def. pass 8) But I'm not good at guessing age
Quote from: Jake on March 23, 2014, 08:23:55 PM
Hey guys, here's my dumb pic:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2Fiz7xur.jpg&hash=a13013ec6e941977a389c0cbb4ed4f34a3305895)
Do I pass? (and how old?) I genuinely can't tell, and any advice would be cool.
You definitely pass. (btw you have great hair, I wish mine was like that) I think here you look like you could be 15-17 maybe. You look pretty young.
hey jake, you pass. I agree your hair is great. I'm no good at guessing age either.
Quote from: Jake on March 23, 2014, 08:23:55 PM
Hey guys, here's my dumb pic:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2Fiz7xur.jpg&hash=a13013ec6e941977a389c0cbb4ed4f34a3305895)
Do I pass? (and how old?) I genuinely can't tell, and any advice would be cool.
Passing like a boss!
I'd huess that you are about 20-25.
Jake, definitely passing! As for age... I'd guess you around 16/17
Cheers, everyone. I'm 22, so I definitely prefer 930310's guess :)
And thanks for the hair compliments! Just got it cut last week (and got charged men's rates, which was a nice bonus)
Quote from: Jake on March 23, 2014, 08:23:55 PM
Hey guys, here's my dumb pic:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2Fiz7xur.jpg&hash=a13013ec6e941977a389c0cbb4ed4f34a3305895)
Do I pass? (and how old?) I genuinely can't tell, and any advice would be cool.
I would say a pass, the hair is also awesome and suits you really well.
And as for age, I would guess somewhere around 20-23 :)
I know I had already asked you guys for an opinion on my voice, but I thought I would try recording myself speaking this time around....
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1n64qonaUNi
And well... While I was trying to record myself talking, I ended up just singing, but I thought I would ask you guys if you think male or female.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1FkbStNPuTr
Also, before I end it. I want to note, my mic sucks and it sometimes cuts out on some parts.
I think you sound male in both recordings. Sometimes a bit more, sometimes a bit less, but still male. Though I would not think "ITS A MAN!" when someone who's obviously a woman had such a voice, nor would I think "ITS A GIRL!" when a guy had it. So it's quite andro, leaning towards male.
I agree with Erik, your voice is very andro sounding. It isn't distinctly male or female, and wouldn't make me think twice hearing it either way, but it IS on the male side of sounding in my opinion.
Quote from: Chris R. on March 17, 2014, 01:17:03 PM
Hey again guys, I tried doing the same thing Erik does for the facial hair and I took a pic before I had to wash it away because my mother walked in :(
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FY9XNUJC.jpg&hash=41ec19e56ab5ebc6735d5acadd4cf01af6878e17)
I was satisfied with it, such a shame.
I've seen a lot of guys try to do the faux facial hair but yours looks exceptionally good man and very natural!
Jake - definitely pass in the pic, I'd peg you in mid teen years maybe 16 or 17
Tomboy - pass to me as a young teen male
26 weeks on T now. I posted a pic in here when I was 2 weeks on. Here's a pic taken last week. Passing? And how old would you say I look?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1331.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw596%2Fanimal115an_zpsb01d682b.png&hash=fbf5d25ab6bb37908d3f036ab6d04688e7f5d957) (http://s1331.photobucket.com/user/animal115/media/an_zps01d682b.png.html)
Quote from: G on March 26, 2014, 12:50:39 PM
26 weeks on T now. I posted a pic in here when I was 2 weeks on. Here's a pic taken last week. Passing? And how old would you say I look?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1331.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw596%2Fanimal115%2Fan_zpsb01d682b.png&hash=dfc8b443c3c428dd083a89e3b1ff06d751124015) (http://s1331.photobucket.com/user/animal115/media/an_zpsb01d682b.png.html)
I would
never see you as female. Lookin good bro! You look maybe 23 give or take to me.
Quote from: G on March 26, 2014, 12:50:39 PM
26 weeks on T now. I posted a pic in here when I was 2 weeks on. Here's a pic taken last week. Passing? And how old would you say I look?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1331.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw596%2Fanimal115%2Fan_zpsb01d682b.png&hash=dfc8b443c3c428dd083a89e3b1ff06d751124015) (http://s1331.photobucket.com/user/animal115/media/an_zpsb01d682b.png.html)
Darned good looking guy for sure, great haircut too I'd say a 25 y.o. male!
Quote from: G on March 26, 2014, 12:50:39 PM
26 weeks on T now. I posted a pic in here when I was 2 weeks on. Here's a pic taken last week. Passing? And how old would you say I look?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1331.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw596%2Fanimal115%2Fan_zpsb01d682b.png&hash=dfc8b443c3c428dd083a89e3b1ff06d751124015) (http://s1331.photobucket.com/user/animal115/media/an_zpsb01d682b.png.html)
You pass without a doubt and I would guess that you are about 22-28.
Quote from: G on March 26, 2014, 12:50:39 PM
26 weeks on T now. I posted a pic in here when I was 2 weeks on. Here's a pic taken last week. Passing? And how old would you say I look?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1331.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw596%2Fanimal115%2Fan_zpsb01d682b.png&hash=dfc8b443c3c428dd083a89e3b1ff06d751124015) (http://s1331.photobucket.com/user/animal115/media/an_zpsb01d682b.png.html)
Totally pass, and cute. Makin' me wish I was younger... I'd guess you low to mid-20's.
Thank you all. Guess I'm finally starting to look more my age lol
Thanks guys for listening to the recordings :) I am liking the fact that my voice is read as gender neutral :) Again, thanks everyone that listened :)
Quote from: Jake on March 23, 2014, 08:23:55 PM
Hey guys, here's my dumb pic:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2Fiz7xur.jpg&hash=a13013ec6e941977a389c0cbb4ed4f34a3305895)
Do I pass? (and how old?) I genuinely can't tell, and any advice would be cool.
Honey, easy pass based on that shot.
http://prntscr.com/3511mn
There is my pic. All I have really is a new haircut...and believe it or not I have been working out XD
I doubt I pass yet... mostly because the hairdresser didn't give me what I asked for, but my cousin randomly told me, "no offence but you kind of look like a boy."
I was so flattered.. but everyone thought he was so rude XD
Bwhahahaha
Quote from: Lucas_Sama on March 28, 2014, 07:43:17 PM
http://prntscr.com/3511mn
There is my pic. All I have really is a new haircut...and believe it or not I have been working out XD
I doubt I pass yet... mostly because the hairdresser didn't give me what I asked for, but my cousin randomly told me, "no offence but you kind of look like a boy."
I was so flattered.. but everyone thought he was so rude XD
Bwhahahaha
You totally look like a guy to me, I wouldn't doubt it for a second :)
Quote from: Jason C on March 28, 2014, 08:03:23 PM
You totally look like a guy to me, I wouldn't doubt it for a second :)
Thank you so much! It means a lot to me.
Your opinion has really boosted my confidence.
@Lucas: You look like a dude to me too.
So I have been messing around with my webcam all day and I made this little clip [3 minutes, haha] of me just talking about stuff. I wanted to get comfortable and fall into my speaking voice, which I think I did. I'm still working on forcing it lower, but it sounds better than it has. Getting closer.
Anyway, I'm looking for feedback on my mannerisms, general appearance, glasses, voice, all of it. I am sort of a feminine guy and I don't really want to force anything that isn't "me", but all opinions are valued here. And be as harsh as you want -- I could use the feedback.
http://youtu.be/CHpbRLjlQaw (http://youtu.be/CHpbRLjlQaw)
Edit: Sorry about the poor audio quality.
Also, I'll take the video down after a while so don't bother quoting it or it'll just be a broken video.
first post, ever, on this forum! i saw a guy make a picture like this on the first page so i figured i'd do the same? it's late here so the lighting isn't that great. my apologies. i'll post another one with better lighting tomorrow or something.
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Quote from: prestonnn15 on March 28, 2014, 09:20:58 PM
first post, ever, on this forum! i saw a guy make a picture like this on the first page so i figured i'd do the same? it's late here so the lighting isn't that great. my apologies. i'll post another one with better lighting tomorrow or something.
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you pass to me man, also like your haircut, might need to try that look lol but you def pass man
Quote from: Ryan55 on March 29, 2014, 06:32:59 AM
you pass to me man, also like your haircut, might need to try that look lol but you def pass man
Ditto on wanting to try that haircut, I'm envious of your hairline lol, did you get it cut/shaved that way? A strong second "yes" vote on passing, are you on T? (Edit: if you don't mind my asking, that is)
P.S. : Welcome to the forum! :)
Quote from: Ryan55 on March 29, 2014, 06:32:59 AM
you pass to me man, also like your haircut, might need to try that look lol but you def pass man
thank you! i did it myself. depending on my mood i'll do no guard closed or #1 closed at the top, open at the bottom. i use the clippers opened to straighten out my hairline a bit. as for the top i've recently tried to cut it with scissors and it turns out alright.
Quote from: Polo on March 29, 2014, 12:04:06 PM
Ditto on wanting to try that haircut, I'm envious of your hairline lol, did you get it cut/shaved that way? A strong second "yes" vote on passing, are you on T? (Edit: if you don't mind my asking, that is)
P.S. : Welcome to the forum! :)
you should definitely give it a go! nah, i shaved my hair and it was just like that. thank you, though!
i'm pre everything. i have natural muscle mass.. i do work out, though. pull ups + dumbbells. :)
thank you!!
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Apparently, I seem a lot happier lately, and since my hair got short, people have been commenting on how much more 'me' I look. It got a bit shorter than I meant to get it a few days ago, while trying to even out the back, but what do you guys think? Actual colour :
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-AlexW
Quote from: AlexW on March 29, 2014, 04:59:49 PM
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Apparently, I seem a lot happier lately, and since my hair got short, people have been commenting on how much more 'me' I look. It got a bit shorter than I meant to get it a few days ago, while trying to even out the back, but what do you guys think? Actual colour :
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-AlexW
Hi Alex!
You look like a nice young man, you're probably older than you look. I like that hairstyle, it works well on you. In the upper photos you have up eyebrows, fyi - most cis males usually don't raise their eyebrows that much, but you look good!
Quote from: Whynaut on March 28, 2014, 09:14:00 PM
@Lucas: You look like a dude to me too.
So I have been messing around with my webcam all day and I made this little clip [3 minutes, haha] of me just talking about stuff. I wanted to get comfortable and fall into my speaking voice, which I think I did. I'm still working on forcing it lower, but it sounds better than it has. Getting closer.
Anyway, I'm looking for feedback on my mannerisms, general appearance, glasses, voice, all of it. I am sort of a feminine guy and I don't really want to force anything that isn't "me", but all opinions are valued here. And be as harsh as you want -- I could use the feedback.
http://youtu.be/CHpbRLjlQaw (http://youtu.be/CHpbRLjlQaw)
Edit: Sorry about the poor audio quality.
Also, I'll take the video down after a while so don't bother quoting it or it'll just be a broken video.
far as mannerisms, you pass to me, you look younger than your age, but we all do lol the voice will get better the longer you are on T, mine is high too and sucks lol but you seem like a pretty smart and chill guy to me, I would just peg you to be younger than you are
Ryan: So my laptop speakers aren't great, but I'd say you definitely pass man, even with the pre-T voice :) It's nice to see another Italian guy using his hands lol. Tbh looking at your profile pic I thought you were already on T.
alex and preston, you both totally pass
ryan, I didn't make it through the whole video but you sure pass to me. you look buff too
whynaut, I think the glasses work. I feel bad saying it, but you don't totally pass to me.I might be getting thrown by the jacket you are wearing. I bet T is going to make a huge difference soon.
I need some tips on how to pass. I don't think I do, but it's really hard to tell when I'm looking at my own face.
http://s941.photobucket.com/user/jenerik-account/media/20140327_223304_zpscf365438.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0 (http://s941.photobucket.com/user/jenerik-account/media/20140327_223304_zpscf365438.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0)
I haven't cut my hair yet 'cause I'm still in the closet so I'm cheating a bit by wearing a hat.
This is a selfie from work:
http://s941.photobucket.com/user/jenerik-account/media/20140326_095133_zps5a66725d.jpg.html (http://s941.photobucket.com/user/jenerik-account/media/20140326_095133_zps5a66725d.jpg.html)
I feel like smiling makes me look more feminine but I'm not sure. Be brutally honest, I need sincere advice.
Quote from: Ryan55 on March 29, 2014, 07:31:51 PM
posted a youtube vid to blog my transition and just random stuff, but I was inspired by whynaut to put the mannerisms, look and voice together to see if I pass, I am pre T, so I know the voice won't sound like a dude lol
edit: I'm italian, so yes I talk with my hands and move a lot lol sorry if it gets shaky and blurry
Ryan, my only nitpick to you passing is your eyebrows. Overall, I think you look and sound great, but the eyebrows have too nice an arch to them, and taper from wide to a point.
Quote from: fries on March 30, 2014, 01:39:40 AM
I need some tips on how to pass. I don't think I do, but it's really hard to tell when I'm looking at my own face.
http://s941.photobucket.com/user/jenerik-account/media/20140327_223304_zpscf365438.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0 (http://s941.photobucket.com/user/jenerik-account/media/20140327_223304_zpscf365438.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0)
I haven't cut my hair yet 'cause I'm still in the closet so I'm cheating a bit by wearing a hat.
This is a selfie from work:
http://s941.photobucket.com/user/jenerik-account/media/20140326_095133_zps5a66725d.jpg.html (http://s941.photobucket.com/user/jenerik-account/media/20140326_095133_zps5a66725d.jpg.html)
I feel like smiling makes me look more feminine but I'm not sure. Be brutally honest, I need sincere advice.
the first pic, you look like a dude to me, the second not sure if its the smile or not that makes you more feminine, do you have contacts? I notice when I put my glasses on, I can be pegged as female more, no idea why, far as hair, if your older than 18, talk to your parents and say you want to do a short hair cut like a pixie cut or take a celebrity's photo and show them, I feel like a lot of girls now have short hair, once its short you can style it more masculine, it took me awhile to cut my hair also, but now no one cares lol
Also thanks polo and tomboy, I go to the gym every week, helps me feel more masculine before I start T, also helps with letting out stress and stuff lol gym is like therapy
Jaydawg yeah I figured it would, its just a habit from growing up female and not wanting a uni brow, that I have this thing to keep getting my eyebrows done lol I can probably get them to shape it more manlier? or let the eyebrows grow out and just get rid of the part that starts growing like a uni brow
Quote from: Ryan55 on March 30, 2014, 08:14:16 AM
Jaydawg yeah I figured it would, its just a habit from growing up female and not wanting a uni brow, that I have this thing to keep getting my eyebrows done lol I can probably get them to shape it more manlier? or let the eyebrows grow out and just get rid of the part that starts growing like a uni brow
Yeah, let 'em grow out; definitely no to the unibrow ;) If they are too bushy or there are odd strays, you can get that handled. At least you have the option - mine are blonde/clear and not really apparent unless I powder or pencil them to add color and volume.
Quote from: fries on March 30, 2014, 01:39:40 AM
I need some tips on how to pass. I don't think I do, but it's really hard to tell when I'm looking at my own face.
http://s941.photobucket.com/user/jenerik-account/media/20140327_223304_zpscf365438.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0 (http://s941.photobucket.com/user/jenerik-account/media/20140327_223304_zpscf365438.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0)
I haven't cut my hair yet 'cause I'm still in the closet so I'm cheating a bit by wearing a hat.
This is a selfie from work:
http://s941.photobucket.com/user/jenerik-account/media/20140326_095133_zps5a66725d.jpg.html (http://s941.photobucket.com/user/jenerik-account/media/20140326_095133_zps5a66725d.jpg.html)
I feel like smiling makes me look more feminine but I'm not sure. Be brutally honest, I need sincere advice.
i agree with the most feminine part on you is your mouth area. something about your cheeks throws me off? i think that once you get a haircut that fits the face of your shape it'll compliment your jawline and help out :) no worries, you'll get there!
Quote from: fries on March 30, 2014, 01:39:40 AM
I need some tips on how to pass. I don't think I do, but it's really hard to tell when I'm looking at my own face.
http://s941.photobucket.com/user/jenerik-account/media/20140327_223304_zpscf365438.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0 (http://s941.photobucket.com/user/jenerik-account/media/20140327_223304_zpscf365438.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0)
I haven't cut my hair yet 'cause I'm still in the closet so I'm cheating a bit by wearing a hat.
This is a selfie from work:
http://s941.photobucket.com/user/jenerik-account/media/20140326_095133_zps5a66725d.jpg.html (http://s941.photobucket.com/user/jenerik-account/media/20140326_095133_zps5a66725d.jpg.html)
I feel like smiling makes me look more feminine but I'm not sure. Be brutally honest, I need sincere advice.
I think rounded glasses like that would make anyone's face look more feminine, and you'd probably pass better with some square frames. And I don't know if you're wearing the hats just to cover your hair or if they're for work, but I don't think that would help you pass in the real world. I rarely see young guys wearing ballcaps of that style, you're more likely to see the kind with flat brims and logos. Otherwise I think you have good passing potential if you got a masculine haircut
Quote from: Ryan55 on March 30, 2014, 08:14:16 AM
Also thanks polo and tomboy, I go to the gym every week, helps me feel more masculine before I start T, also helps with letting out stress and stuff lol gym is like therapy
Jaydawg yeah I figured it would, its just a habit from growing up female and not wanting a uni brow, that I have this thing to keep getting my eyebrows done lol I can probably get them to shape it more manlier? or let the eyebrows grow out and just get rid of the part that starts growing like a uni brow
Not sure how much reading into it you've done, but lifting weights raises testosterone levels which might have something to do with it :P I just got back into a serious lifting program myself (after too long of a break oops), and it feels awesome. I'll be posting here for the first time when I feel like I'm back to my normal musculature. Funny how starting to date someone throws a wrench into your workout plans...or mine at any rate lol.
I think that you're better off letting your eyebrows grow out and doing maintenance on your own. I too fear the uni-brow and usually shave off the middle part, and up until recently shaved off a little too much in the middle for a guy's eyebrows. Old habits die hard I guess.
https://flic.kr/p/mBtzpV
Not even one week post my first shot of T. Wanted to see how well I pass without t right now. I usually get sir about half the time, until I open my mouth, even when I speak from my chest. My voice also does that stupid high pitched thing when I get excited, which is often. lol. I also forget and raise my eyebrows pretty high for a guy. Most of my classmates in college know I'm gay, so I think that's what gets me out of a lot of potentially embarrassing situations with them.
Only issue is my leg hurts like unholy h*ll. Feels like I tore a freaking muscle in it, so from now on I think I'll skip working out after I've given myself my shot. I probably should have done my workout first, or the day before or something. Not sure if they're related, but I'll see next week (doing weekly shots, because my endo says so).
Anyway, what do you guys think? (hope my link works. Flikr is being weird for me today.)
Quote from: fries on March 30, 2014, 01:39:40 AM
I need some tips on how to pass. I don't think I do, but it's really hard to tell when I'm looking at my own face.
http://s941.photobucket.com/user/jenerik-account/media/20140327_223304_zpscf365438.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0 (http://s941.photobucket.com/user/jenerik-account/media/20140327_223304_zpscf365438.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0)
I haven't cut my hair yet 'cause I'm still in the closet so I'm cheating a bit by wearing a hat.
This is a selfie from work:
http://s941.photobucket.com/user/jenerik-account/media/20140326_095133_zps5a66725d.jpg.html (http://s941.photobucket.com/user/jenerik-account/media/20140326_095133_zps5a66725d.jpg.html)
I feel like smiling makes me look more feminine but I'm not sure. Be brutally honest, I need sincere advice.
you totally pass in the first picture
charliedogist - heh. I have to admit I hit some random button and got totally side tracked by your awesome dogs.
Haha, I have like two flickr accounts, the other one has ALL my dog pictures on it. I tend to take too many pictures of my dogs lol, let me know if you want the link to that, I'll PM it to you when my account is able (still says guest, not sure when that goes away?)
there can never be too many pictures of dogs. Please pm it to me when you can
I also totally need either a haircut or a hair straightener. I hate that my hair starts to curl at a certain length. I keep it under a knit cap most of the time, but I live in the land of humidity near 100% in the summer time (not sure if we're allowed to post what state we live in, but it's in the south, lol) and in the summer I switch to a BDU patrol cap (hold over from when I was in the army) so I keep it pretty short on the sides, and longer a bit on top. I try to go for the Tenth Doctor look, lol. I've already started loosing body fat because of a few tips on websites before starting T, which I think has helped a lot with my jaw line. I have about zero shoulder muscles though. Bodyweight circuits FTW on that one. Already seeing improvements after about three weeks, even before starting T. Looking at my full sibling brother, I can honestly say I will probably never grow a full beard (he's about three years younger than me and still doesn't have any facial hair) but if I can reach his body style I'd be infinitely pleased.
Also, what age would you put me at?
@Charlie I'd guess you to be about 17 or so. Congrats on starting T!
Thanks! I've been lurking a lot on here, decided when I finally got my first shot that I would join. I have trouble keeping up with more than one forum usually, and I'm a long time member on another one, so we'll see how long I actually post here vs just lurking.
I usually get 16 or 17 also, haha. I was gifted with "young" looking genes I guess. You're off by almost nine years though :p I'll be 26 in July. :o
Right, let's give this a go :P no full body pictures because I have no-one to take a picture of me just yet. But just a few random face pics:
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I guess this is what I'd look like with short hair. Terrible, basically, haha, so the dreads will stay, I think:
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Looking good jason. Uou pass a bit more to me in the first picture. not sure why
Yeah, looking good. You have a good basis for when you get on T, and based on those pics I'd even say you already pass.
Jason - I think you pass really well in the first pic. You have thick eyebrows and a masculine looking chin. The second pic you don't pass as well in, I think maybe that angle shows that your jaw isn't as chielsed as you'd expect on an adult guy? I think with your masculine features you'll pass really well after you've been on T for a short while.
Thanks for your opinions, guys :)
Thanks everyone for the honest and helpful tips! I really appreciate it. By the way, did anyone notice the website go down yesterday? In regards to my glasses, I'm far too blind to use contacts. I really wanted 'em 'cause I work in a kitchen and I always get ->-bleeped-<- on my glasses but unfortunately, my eyesight is too poor for contacts. They're inadequate for my astigmatism. I tried 'em out but I couldn't really read that well and my long distance vision was very limited. It sucks. I can't afford new glasses at the moment but I'm hoping once I get a better job that I can buy a pair online 'cause it's significantly cheaper supposedly.
I definitely know what you guys mean about my mouth. I've lost almost 50lbs and so I've lost some fat from my face but unfortunately, I seemed to have stopped losing the fat in my cheeks so now I feel like they've gotten even more plump. :/ Very irritating, my lips are kinda full too which doesn't help either. I usually don't wear ballcaps, that hat just happened to hide my hair the best. I don't think I'll wear it out in public, it is quite outdated haha.
Up until this point I've always been hesitant to cut my hair 'cause I didn't wanna look like a butch lesbian. I'm out as "gay" to everyone which definitely gives me more freedom to be as masculine as possible. The downside is I might come off as really butch. I'm at a point where I just kinda don't give a damn anymore. I've been living in the closet for so long, it's really starting to bring me down. I kinda wanna cut my hair as a middle finger to everyone that has tried to make me more feminine. A big ol "Screw you guys, I own my body!" Also, the weather is getting warmer here and I want to use that as an excuse to get my hair short
So since you guys mentioned haircuts I figured I'd ask which haircut would help make my face masculine? I made a new thread:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,162471.0.htm (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,162471.0.htm)l
Just in case it's against the rules for going off topic or whatever on here.
I'll try posting a pic/video sometime in the future after I get my haircut. My voice sounds like a 10 year old boy to me so I'd be interested in seeing what you guys think hehe.
Thanks again everyone! I really appreciate the honesty.
PS: You guys made me feel really great about myself 'cause I was worried I'd have absolutely no chance at passing. :D
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ok, I've only posted one other picture and people commented how you couldn't really see my face. This picture was a total accident. I accidentally bumped my tablet than pushed random buttons. I know it's kind of cut off and stuff. Pictures are still hard but you can see my face. I'm pre-T. I know I don't really pass.
Question about the glasses, are they ok? They are freaking expensive, so I probably can't change them right away but I want to know if I should plan on changing them.
I'm also thinking of getting a really short cut. I don't know.
Quote from: tomboy on April 03, 2014, 12:38:15 AM
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ok, I've only posted one other picture and people commented how you couldn't really see my face. This picture was a total accident. I accidentally bumped my tablet than pushed random buttons. I know it's kind of cut off and stuff. Pictures are still hard but you can see my face. I'm pre-T. I know I don't really pass.
Question about the glasses, are they ok? They are freaking expensive, so I probably can't change them right away but I want to know if I should plan on changing them.
I'm also thinking of getting a really short cut. I don't know.
I think you are looking great tomboy! Don't worry about the glasses, they're fine!
Quote from: tomboy on April 03, 2014, 12:38:15 AM
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ok, I've only posted one other picture and people commented how you couldn't really see my face. This picture was a total accident. I accidentally bumped my tablet than pushed random buttons. I know it's kind of cut off and stuff. Pictures are still hard but you can see my face. I'm pre-T. I know I don't really pass.
Question about the glasses, are they ok? They are freaking expensive, so I probably can't change them right away but I want to know if I should plan on changing them.
I'm also thinking of getting a really short cut. I don't know.
It's a bit hard to tell from this angle but the glasses seem a bit big on you in a way but otherwise they're not bad. Also I think a really short haircut would probably look good on you :)
I have never actually put a full body picture of myself here before, and well, now I have one. Not really perhaps the best angle but I was wondering what everyone here thought. Pass or no?
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And I thought I would also ask, any suggestion for a hairstyle? I know I can't pull of anything too short, cause when it is I am just called a dyke.
imo not so much in those pictures as you did in your last, Dalex. I think part of it is that your shoulders look kind of small (maybe a different shirt would help in that department?)
As for the hair...I don't know how to explain this because I have so little knowledge about hair products, but I believe there are products that can create kind of a "messy" look (but controlled messy). I notice in a lot of guys with hair your length, it seems to hang not so straight. And yours is like...perfect, lol (I'm actually a bit jealous). The term in school was "hockey hair" (but obviously avoid the styles that look like a mullet lol). I'm thinking maybe like a hair cream might help achieve that effect.
Hopefully that made sense, it was hard to explain, haha.
Maybe you can look up men's haircuts for your length of hair, and see what you like. I think having a more masculine haircut will help a lot. Not short, just styled in a way typical to men, perhaps.
Also, this will probably be stupid, but I think working out a bit will help you. If it's something you can do and want to do, I reckon gaining a bit of muscle will help, your arms from what I can see, can do with a bit of muscle. I mean I'm not judging you, because my muscles are practically withering away, haha, but yeah.
Hey all, I don't want to spam this board or anything but I can feel so self-conscious sometimes lol I was asking a couple of my friends who knew me before I knew I was trans and they think I look/sound like a girl in guys clothes basically, hence why I'm asking. I know people here answer honestly so I value all your opinions. On a scale of 1-10 where do you think I sit? 1 being you look totally like a girl and 10 being never enter the women's washroom again if you value your life! haha jk, sorta. I hope I don't look too nervous in this vid I really didn't know what to talk about so I just kinda ended up rambling. Also, I will be taking this vid down after a couple days.
http://youtu.be/sArutUjMviE (http://youtu.be/sArutUjMviE)
I don't know about the scale thing, Evan. I'd say a 10, but as a young boy - maybe around 15 or so. You pass 100% to me, even your voice is boyish.
Honestly Evan, it's kind of hard for me to say. I found my perception of you kind of flip flopped throughout the video - at one point my mind would think "male" and the other it would think "female" (well, not that I saw you as a girl because I know you're not one, but you know what I mean). I would say that overall your physical appearance comes off as male, and your voice can kind of go either/or. There were certain points where I think it would have helped if you were less hesitant in your speech (understandable because you do seem nervous in the video). I find the hesitation kind of makes people's voices get stuck on higher notes. But when you weren't hesitating, it sounded more boyish, for sure.
Don't feel bad or self-conscious though. First off, your friends who knew you before are always gonna see some of the "girl" even after transition, because that's what's set in their minds. They're too biased to give you honest feedback. Second, one thing I've really learned (struggled) to accept is that we can't control how others see us, all we can do is work towards being comfortable with ourselves and that usually takes time. I think you've got a really good start in terms of appearance.
I'd say you look and sound like a young guy. Your voice sounds like a guy's voice when it's still kind of changing. The problem with people who knew you before you came out as trans is...they have that past knowledge of you, so it's hard for them to see you differently just because certain things change. Same with my best friend, he said he'd never be able to see me as a guy even though he refers to me as such. Because he's always known me as a girl. So don't worry much about that.
I am rather envious of your voice though, haha.
You pass really well Evan. I agree with Jason, I'm envious of your voice. For me, the only times I saw girl is when you were smiling. I don't why.
And talk about spamming, I just have to show my new haircut off. I'm so happy with it
(https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/971491_649320945102968_393643643_n.jpg)
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Quote from: tomboy on April 04, 2014, 09:59:35 PM
You pass really well Evan. I agree with Jason, I'm envious of your voice. For me, the only times I saw girl is when you were smiling. I don't why.
And talk about spamming, I just have to show my new haircut off. I'm so happy with it
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1. You pass to me.
2. Loving the haircut.
3. Loving the shirt :D
Tomboy, looking good! But I'm not sure whether you pass... you are kind of balancing on the line of passing/not passing, hard for me to gauge. But you already have a distinct masculinity over you, and I am sure you'll pass well once on T for a while! Right now, it would depend on voice, way you carry yourself etc. whether you really pass. (I know from experience that I tend to pass at photo's, but not irl because of my voice (and giganormous butt :I (okay, not that big. But you get the idea)))
@Evan: You are sitting right in the middle for me. You have a really androgynous look [which is a plus in my book]. I could see you as a 20-something girl or a really young boy. Like, 14. Which I think would hurt your passing in the "real world" because I'm sure you carry yourself differently than a 14-year-old boy would, and do things like drive, etc. which would confuse people. I look really young too so this is something I struggle with. Your voice sounds great though. Very androgynous, leaning toward the male side.
@tomboy: You pass in my eyes in these photos, and that shirt is amazing.
Wow guys, such a MAJOR confidence boost. I'm totally okay with looking like a young guy. I don't actually drive or do much things that would scream "adult!" so I think I could maybe get away with it haha. Seriously, this has made at least my entire month :) Also thanks for the advice. You're right, it might be that they still remember the "girl" from before and are finding it hard to get away from that. And yeah, I do need to just be me and be ok with that xD still, it's nice to know that I mostly pass, even with my voice :) So yeah thanks guys!
Evan- It's totally cool to get that feedback isn't it. Yay for confidence boost.
Thanks guys. :)
Quote from: Erik Ezrin on April 05, 2014, 02:18:16 AM
Tomboy, looking good! But I'm not sure whether you pass... you are kind of balancing on the line of passing/not passing, hard for me to gauge. But you already have a distinct masculinity over you, and I am sure you'll pass well once on T for a while! Right now, it would depend on voice, way you carry yourself etc. whether you really pass. (I know from experience that I tend to pass at photo's, but not irl because of my voice (and giganormous butt :I (okay, not that big. But you get the idea)))
my voice gives me away. And my hips :P I think my body mannerisms are pretty masculine but I sort of talk like a girl if that makes sense. I've asked a couple real life friends and they said I've always been andro so that gives me hope. Thanks
Oh yeah, Evan, totally missed your video, lol ::)
But I agree with the others. You have a pretty small frame though. But for the rest... totally passing as a young guy! Your voice is very guyish as well (much lower than mine *pipsqueak voice*), I'd gauge you around 12-14
Quote from: Dalex on April 03, 2014, 03:44:40 PM
I have never actually put a full body picture of myself here before, and well, now I have one. Not really perhaps the best angle but I was wondering what everyone here thought. Pass or no?
(https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/603593_1380666392213109_282277440_n.jpg)
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And I thought I would also ask, any suggestion for a hairstyle? I know I can't pull of anything too short, cause when it is I am just called a dyke.
I do think the style in those pics is a little androgynous or feminine, because it seems to form a natural bob. I'd suggest either straightening your hair, and/or looking into a shag kind of haircut. I used to wear one and I regularly was read as male even though I wasn't even trying.
Something more like this, textured etc:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-lck0wgHYHWk%2FTgGDqptimwI%2FAAAAAAAACY0%2FZrK-2EL0TTU%2Fs1600%2FShaggy-Hairstyles-For-Men-2011-4.jpg&hash=c2ca4e5e74d9b9cc7f0fa4e1857b8966323fe31e)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.squidoocdn.com%2Fresize%2Fsquidoo_images%2F590%2Fdraft_lens14380001module126587241photo_1_1287198710keithurban-long-shaggy-hairstyle.jpg&hash=28b61b093c45d9cf8c135aceec2b204d8be1c474)
Quote from: Polo on April 06, 2014, 09:29:26 PM
Something more like this, textured etc:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-lck0wgHYHWk%2FTgGDqptimwI%2FAAAAAAAACY0%2FZrK-2EL0TTU%2Fs1600%2FShaggy-Hairstyles-For-Men-2011-4.jpg&hash=c2ca4e5e74d9b9cc7f0fa4e1857b8966323fe31e)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.squidoocdn.com%2Fresize%2Fsquidoo_images%2F590%2Fdraft_lens14380001module126587241photo_1_1287198710keithurban-long-shaggy-hairstyle.jpg&hash=28b61b093c45d9cf8c135aceec2b204d8be1c474)
The guy on the second pic looks like a younger version of Billy Ray Cyrus :laugh:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20100130162605%2Fphineasandferb%2Fimages%2F6%2F68%2FBilly_Ray_Cyrus.jpg&hash=ca82716964bd91ad738c2851c59e0965078b0065)
Keith Urban, it's funny they're only like 6 years apart :)
for one minute I was like, holy crap do all you guys pass! :icon_mrhappy: :icon_giggle: :icon_mrhappy:
Quote from: Polo on April 06, 2014, 09:29:26 PM
Something more like this, textured etc:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-lck0wgHYHWk%2FTgGDqptimwI%2FAAAAAAAACY0%2FZrK-2EL0TTU%2Fs1600%2FShaggy-Hairstyles-For-Men-2011-4.jpg&hash=c2ca4e5e74d9b9cc7f0fa4e1857b8966323fe31e)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.squidoocdn.com%2Fresize%2Fsquidoo_images%2F590%2Fdraft_lens14380001module126587241photo_1_1287198710keithurban-long-shaggy-hairstyle.jpg&hash=28b61b093c45d9cf8c135aceec2b204d8be1c474)
Thanks :) I will be getting my haircut soon and I will surely have this style in mind when I will have it cut. Thanks Polo :)
@Evan You pass to me. You do look young but time on T will fix that. Good luck with your endo appointment coming up! Also like the haircut, I think it suits you well. Kinda reminds me of mine :P
@Tomboy Awesome haircut!
Thanks Erik and G! Yeah can't wait to get on T! Hopefully the Dr. I'm seeing will let me get on nice and quick haha. And thanks! It's pretty easy to cut I find so I do it myself xD
Erik: Yeah I know I'm a beanpole! haha makes shirts hard to find that fit at times xD I just worry it'll make it harder for me to pass in the summer but who knows.
ok i finally got around to getting a haircut
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi438.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fqq106%2Feastrenegade%2Fphoto1_zps74fcf312.jpg&hash=a9afe24f34ff1c3b457a835480484bcf6d8da6f5) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/eastrenegade/media/photo1_zps74fcf312.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi438.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fqq106%2Feastrenegade%2Fphoto2_zps6d3ba133.jpg&hash=13eb3da2cbd7a291a3a1cd4f653bf10eff07a4e7) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/eastrenegade/media/photo2_zps6d3ba133.jpg.html)
My friend, I think you can pass just fine ;D
Lookin good Ryan!
thanks guys
Ryan, I am digging the haircut! You are looking great!
Well! As I asked earlier on here about some styling tips with my hair, I thought I would share my new haircut. But, before I post the picture, I will add the story behind it. My dad works at a hair salon and before I came in, he talked to the woman who was going to be having a look and told her I was trans, she seemed actually more then willing to give me a guys hairstyle, which was very cool. So, she and my dad cut my hair, and such. Well, when I got home my dysorphia raised through the roof, since all I could see when I looked at myself was well, I looked very much like what most would call a dyke. Nothing wrong with that, just that I want to look like a man. But, I thought I would share with ya'll the picture here. What do you all think?
(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10151764_1389777521301996_2091782964176014801_n.jpg)
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I think it looks great, Dalex! You look very young, but the cut suits you.
Quote from: birkin on April 10, 2014, 06:16:32 PM
I think it looks great, Dalex! You look very young, but the cut suits you.
Thanks :) I am feeling a bit better about the haircut now x3 Can I ask how old you think I look?
you don't look like a dyke to me dalex, I think your haircut is cool, you look 18 or 19 to me
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/55aad1335348ad7ff84db43e892f765f/tumblr_n3uclcBOVL1rd8zxjo1_500.jpg)
I recently had been told I look like a dude, one person actually thought I was a dude. I was really happy when they said that. I'm getting color highlights on saturday though and that's when i hadn't had a chance to spike it up slightly
Quote from: Dalex on April 10, 2014, 06:12:53 PM
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I had to actually check back in the thread to see if it was the same person who posted previous pics., you look totally different in these new ones and it definitely suits you! You definitely look like young man here and nothing else
Congrats dude its an awesome cut n style.. Enjoy it!
Dalex - I'd say 15 or 16, I think. I'm pretty bad with ages in general lol but if I were to see you I'd peg you as late Jr High/early high school.
Im pre T and I pass most of the time (90% I would say), but just wondering what you all think?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/v/t1.0-9/10155122_1440202852891033_3021272826275357651_n.jpg?oh=08b1a044229d06b7eff79b4fe721e7e3&oe=53D5E29E&__gda__=1406725417_ffc48d3cd4f0a1c2a571126f99ced4a5)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/1981873_1437954553115863_634227618_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/1794783_1436930879884897_838362084_n.jpg)
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Quote from: mynameisjacob on April 11, 2014, 08:15:40 AM
Im pre T and I pass most of the time (90% I would say), but just wondering what you all think?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/v/t1.0-9/10155122_1440202852891033_3021272826275357651_n.jpg?oh=08b1a044229d06b7eff79b4fe721e7e3&oe=53D5E29E&__gda__=1406725417_ffc48d3cd4f0a1c2a571126f99ced4a5)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/1981873_1437954553115863_634227618_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/1794783_1436930879884897_838362084_n.jpg)
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definitely pass more so in the last two..don't know why ;)
Quote from: Ryan55 on April 10, 2014, 07:28:55 PM
you don't look like a dyke to me dalex, I think your haircut is cool, you look 18 or 19 to me
Thanks a lot :)
Quote from: radsi on April 11, 2014, 12:46:06 AM
I had to actually check back in the thread to see if it was the same person who posted previous pics., you look totally different in these new ones and it definitely suits you! You definitely look like young man here and nothing else
Congrats dude its an awesome cut n style.. Enjoy it!
It means a lot to hear that! I think I am growing used to the haircut a little by little, so I might be able to start enjoying it soon. It just scared me at the start, since I am pre T and been told all my life that I am such a 'pretty girl'. But it is nice to know the haircut did some nice change :)
Quote from: birkin on April 11, 2014, 12:51:36 AM
Dalex - I'd say 15 or 16, I think. I'm pretty bad with ages in general lol but if I were to see you I'd peg you as late Jr High/early high school.
Well, I suppose I should be happy with looking young xD I'm actually 23 xD But I do actually manage to buy teen passes for the bus where I live, so I do that only to save money where I can XD
Quote from: ReaverMarcus on April 10, 2014, 07:46:50 PM
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/55aad1335348ad7ff84db43e892f765f/tumblr_n3uclcBOVL1rd8zxjo1_500.jpg)
I recently had been told I look like a dude, one person actually thought I was a dude. I was really happy when they said that. I'm getting color highlights on saturday though and that's when i hadn't had a chance to spike it up slightly
I would say that you pass for a very young guy.
@ Dalex: I'm still in my early 20s but a lot of ppl actually say I look much younger. I'm getting purple highlights in my hair tomorrow and that's gonna be fun. As for you, I'd have to say look like a super cutie.
Quote from: ReaverMarcus on April 10, 2014, 07:46:50 PM
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/55aad1335348ad7ff84db43e892f765f/tumblr_n3uclcBOVL1rd8zxjo1_500.jpg)
I recently had been told I look like a dude, one person actually thought I was a dude. I was really happy when they said that. I'm getting color highlights on saturday though and that's when i hadn't had a chance to spike it up slightly
Guy....yes. May I make a suggestion though? You could likely gain a year, maybe more, of age with different frames.
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on April 12, 2014, 09:02:10 AM
Yes, You pass as a guy and You look like You are somewhere in 14-15ties (pre-puberty). And this might be kinda awkward but You do very much look like myself when I was 13-15 y.o. I really could not believe my eyes, lol!
That's not awkward at all. I've been called as young as 12 yrs old
Quote from: Greeneyedrebel on April 12, 2014, 09:42:12 AM
Guy....yes. May I make a suggestion though? You could likely gain a year, maybe more, of age with different frames.
my choices of frames were limited. I mean I was getting them through the Lion's Club cause I have no money or even insurance. Maybe next year when I get my eyes checked, I'll pick different glasses.
Quote from: ReaverMarcus on April 11, 2014, 09:01:39 PM
@ Dalex: I'm still in my early 20s but a lot of ppl actually say I look much younger. I'm getting purple highlights in my hair tomorrow and that's gonna be fun. As for you, I'd have to say look like a super cutie.
It seems to be fairly common for guys like us to pass as much younger pre T. I got asked the other day if I was 16 xD And thank you for the compliment :)
Quote from: mynameisjacob on April 11, 2014, 08:15:40 AM
Im pre T and I pass most of the time (90% I would say), but just wondering what you all think?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/v/t1.0-9/10155122_1440202852891033_3021272826275357651_n.jpg?oh=08b1a044229d06b7eff79b4fe721e7e3&oe=53D5E29E&__gda__=1406725417_ffc48d3cd4f0a1c2a571126f99ced4a5)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/1981873_1437954553115863_634227618_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/1794783_1436930879884897_838362084_n.jpg)
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I'd definitely say that you pass really well!
Quote from: Dalex on April 12, 2014, 11:42:14 AM
It seems to be fairly common for guys like us to pass as much younger pre T. I got asked the other day if I was 16 xD And thank you for the compliment :)
You are. If I didn't have a SO already, I'd like to date someone cute like you. (not that my SO isn't cute cause he is amazing)
Those purple highlights are in and i look sexy
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/fef9a12ee9411b6c656416d3a620c67c/tumblr_n3xpfvinbz1rd8zxjo1_500.jpg)
Bros, i want to go on webcam with a girl (no sound since i'm pre-t) do i pass? ???
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2Frk25ch.png&hash=9a06beef07a6664b2b5aec9bcfb5d73d57445ae8)
Quote from: MarcBanks on April 12, 2014, 06:41:42 PM
Bros, i want to go on webcam with a girl (no sound since i'm pre-t) do i pass? ???
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2Frk25ch.png&hash=9a06beef07a6664b2b5aec9bcfb5d73d57445ae8)
Marc, the image is a bit dark so I can't see your hairstlye but what I do see looks male.
I'm not sure if it's shadows or some trick of makeup but on first glace it looks like you have a chinstrap and 'stache even.
Quote from: ReaverMarcus on April 12, 2014, 10:07:38 AM
my choices of frames were limited. I mean I was getting them through the Lion's Club cause I have no money or even insurance. Maybe next year when I get my eyes checked, I'll pick different glasses.
I didn't mean to offend, and hope I didn't. Hard to know what items are from 'before' or new or how/when/why a guy got them.
They look better in the full front pic by the way.
Quote from: Greeneyedrebel on April 12, 2014, 06:49:13 PM
I didn't mean to offend, and hope I didn't. Hard to know what items are from 'before' or new or how/when/why a guy got them.
They look better in the full front pic by the way.
No, it's cool. I actually picked them for cosplay reasons. They are similar to a character I plan on cosplaying.
I also had long hair when I originally got them.
Quote from: Greeneyedrebel on April 12, 2014, 06:46:37 PM
Marc, the image is a bit dark so I can't see your hairstlye but what I do see looks male.
I'm not sure if it's shadows or some trick of makeup but on first glace it looks like you have a chinstrap and 'stache even.
Yep i used dark light so that my "applied" facial hair looked more real, here's a different style of facial hair i think it looks more "real" (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2Fjj7ogp.jpg&hash=19da840c905a9d703540c637341f3a20f4065e5d)
& i have this hairstyle but shorter (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww1.pictures.zimbio.com%2Fgi%2FJustin%2BBieber%2BBRIT%2BAwards%2B2011%2BOutside%2BArrivals%2BC-8KD-1zpOcl.jpg&hash=01718bc47b32fec5783db9c7a0f5e5d599e090b8)
Quote from: ReaverMarcus on April 12, 2014, 03:12:19 PM
You are. If I didn't have a SO already, I'd like to date someone cute like you. (not that my SO isn't cute cause he is amazing)
Those purple highlights are in and i look sexy
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/fef9a12ee9411b6c656416d3a620c67c/tumblr_n3xpfvinbz1rd8zxjo1_500.jpg)
I have always been bad with compliments, let alone know how to respond to them, but again thank you :3 But I have to say, the purple highlights actually look pretty darn awesome.
Quote from: MarcBanks on April 12, 2014, 06:41:42 PM
Bros, i want to go on webcam with a girl (no sound since i'm pre-t) do i pass? ???
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2Frk25ch.png&hash=9a06beef07a6664b2b5aec9bcfb5d73d57445ae8)
Well, judging from the picture, I would say a pass. Also, if the lighting stays pretty much the same through out, I would not worry at all. :)
whoa, I got behind. Lots of definite dudes here.
Quote from: MarcBanks on April 12, 2014, 07:05:48 PM
Yep i used dark light so that my "applied" facial hair looked more real, here's a different style of facial hair i think it looks more "real" (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2Fjj7ogp.jpg&hash=19da840c905a9d703540c637341f3a20f4065e5d)
& i have this hairstyle but shorter (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww1.pictures.zimbio.com%2Fgi%2FJustin%2BBieber%2BBRIT%2BAwards%2B2011%2BOutside%2BArrivals%2BC-8KD-1zpOcl.jpg&hash=01718bc47b32fec5783db9c7a0f5e5d599e090b8)
The light/shadows are working.
Dalex & greeneyedrebel, thanks for your opinions bros!
Quote from: MarcBanks on April 12, 2014, 07:29:19 PM
Dalex & greeneyedrebel, thanks for your opinions bros!
It's true, you do pass in the pictures. But, what is your plan...to never meet her?
I think the facial hair in the first pic looks more realistic, Marc...the second (with the full beard) doesn't imo though.
Marc, I agree with Birkin, the beard/chin strap in the first pic looks much more realistic than the full beard. In that pic there was NOTHING that would have made me think you were female (I of course assume you are going to have similar lightning when you're going to use your webcam? Cause otherwise we can't really judge from this)
Anyway, I would not worry too much. You look good and a 100% male. Especially in the first pic with the chinstrap beard.
runningbrave you can't just copy the address of where your pic is on your computer. you gotta upload it to sumthin like photobucket or tinypic.
@MarcBanks: Total pass with that lighting.
@ReaverMarcus: You don't pass to me. Your cheeks are pretty feminine. You do look fairly androgynous so if you live in an area that doesn't have a lot of queer/gender nonconforming folk, you may pass to them.
Just got a new hair cut today. I like the length, I think, though maybe I would have liked a little more on top [but hair grows, amiright?]. My problem is that I don't know what to do with it. There is some pomade in it now but should I style it in any way? Comb it forward? To the side? Also the tree/building shadows make it look like I have cleavage. Awkward.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi15.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa359%2Fcheres%2Fme%2Fhaircut.jpg&hash=62a6a0e8b405ee47efdada0203523cd8684850d7)
Don't quote the picture, please & thanks. c:
Quote from: Whynaut on April 13, 2014, 05:37:01 PM
@ReaverMarcus: You don't pass to me. Your cheeks are pretty feminine. You do look fairly androgynous so if you live in an area that doesn't have a lot of queer/gender nonconforming folk, you may pass to them.
Just got a new hair cut today. I like the length, I think, though maybe I would have liked a little more on top [but hair grows, amiright?]. My problem is that I don't know what to do with it. There is some pomade in it now but should I style it in any way? Comb is forward? To the side?
I live in a tiny town of old folks. Maybe the bad eye sight will help me pass better. :laugh: Just kidding, or not really. I still have to style it. I could probably stand losing a bit of weight in my face ( ??? is that possible to do?)
As for you, I say pretty much pass. i kind of see down the shirt and it hints possibly not. (of course it could be the shadows)
Quote from: ReaverMarcus on April 13, 2014, 05:41:46 PM
I live in a tiny town of old folks. Maybe the bad eye sight will help me pass better. :laugh: Just kidding, or not really. I still have to style it. I could probably stand losing a bit of weight in my face ( ??? is that possible to do?)
As for you, I say pretty much pass. i kind of see down the shirt and it hints possibly not. (of course it could be the shadows)
You're probably fine. c: You can't target your cheeks for weight loss but if you lose weight all over your face slims down. I could do with losing a bit more -- my cheeks like to puff up when I gain any weight at all.
I would pass much better in a tiny town but my city is unforgiving. And haha, I'm not sure what is going on with my chest?? My past girl-presenting self never even really had shadows like that on the chest.
Quote from: Whynaut on April 13, 2014, 06:08:42 PM
You're probably fine. c: You can't target your cheeks for weight loss but if you lose weight all over your face slims down. I could do with losing a bit more -- my cheeks like to puff up when I gain any weight at all.
I would pass much better in a tiny town but my city is unforgiving. And haha, I'm not sure what is going on with my chest?? My past girl-presenting self never even really had shadows like that on the chest.
The way the shirt shadows. I was in theatre and tended to work with the costumes.
Whynaut,
Definitely a good cut for you. You look much more male with this picture/haircut than others I have seen of you. Length is great all around. The person did a good job (good style for you and also the cut itself is quality). If you liked the person, I would use them again.
Quote from: Erik Ezrin on April 13, 2014, 10:44:19 AM
Marc, I agree with Birkin, the beard/chin strap in the first pic looks much more realistic than the full beard. In that pic there was NOTHING that would have made me think you were female (I of course assume you are going to have similar lightning when you're going to use your webcam? Cause otherwise we can't really judge from this)
Anyway, I would not worry too much. You look good and a 100% male. Especially in the first pic with the chinstrap beard.
Thanks for your opinion brotha ! Now i'm comparing the styles and you're right on that one i'll keep the chinstrap beard, lightning will remain the same of course :)
Quote from: Dalex on April 12, 2014, 07:13:55 PM
Well, judging from the picture, I would say a pass. Also, if the lighting stays pretty much the same through out, I would not worry at all. :)
Thanks for your opinion bro, lightning will remain the same :)
Quote from: birkin on April 13, 2014, 03:04:31 AM
I think the facial hair in the first pic looks more realistic, Marc...the second (with the full beard) doesn't imo though.
Thanks for your opinion bro i think you're right on that one
Quote from: Brett on April 12, 2014, 08:37:35 PM
It's true, you do pass in the pictures. But, what is your plan...to never meet her?
I plan to meet her she knows i'm trans & fully accepts but her family doesn't know yet. Just to make sure if they pass by her computer they
won't suspect things :P
Quote from: Whynaut on April 13, 2014, 05:37:01 PM
@MarcBanks: Total pass with that lighting.
Thanks for the opinion bro! & ur pic looks full male to me, not one hint of anything feminine and the haircut looks great brotha
2 months on T so far, I don't know if it's my voice or my face is still just screaming female but yeah, I haven't asked anyone but my husband and he says I'm in that "in between" stage. What do you guys think?
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pre-T. Excuse the weird expression. I had to cut my hair shorter than usual for job interviews, usually it's just a little longer. (I worry that shorter hair makes the roundness of my face more visible, but ehh)
Quote from: Hex on April 14, 2014, 02:38:05 AM
2 months on T so far, I don't know if it's my voice or my face is still just screaming female but yeah, I haven't asked anyone but my husband and he says I'm in that "in between" stage. What do you guys think?
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I think you have definitely have an androgene look, but leaning a bit more to the male side of it. Congratulation with two months on T :)
Quote from: ryanj884 on April 14, 2014, 12:56:40 PM
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pre-T. Excuse the weird expression. I had to cut my hair shorter than usual for job interviews, usually it's just a little longer. (I worry that shorter hair makes the roundness of my face more visible, but ehh)
At least from that shot, I would say a pass. The haircut suits you as well, so I definitely would not worry about that :)
Quote from: Hex on April 14, 2014, 02:38:05 AM
2 months on T so far, I don't know if it's my voice or my face is still just screaming female but yeah, I haven't asked anyone but my husband and he says I'm in that "in between" stage. What do you guys think?
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You pass to me, but I think your face still looks very soft, so you look like a rather young guy, which I imagine will change the longer you're on testosterone. Congrats on the two months by the way :)
Quote from: ryanj884 on April 14, 2014, 12:56:40 PM
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pre-T. Excuse the weird expression. I had to cut my hair shorter than usual for job interviews, usually it's just a little longer. (I worry that shorter hair makes the roundness of my face more visible, but ehh)
I like the hair, man, suits you and you look just fine to me :D
Hex - I see you as male but a bit on the andro side.
Ryan - Pass to me, and I like that hair cut on you, looks good. Actually you look a lot like a cis guy I know.
well, i got a haircut and this time it was a new saloonist. i felt alright at the saloon (maybe i was a bit distracted there, the new saloonist was quite attractive and you know ;) ) but since i got home and looked in the mirror i'm having this bad feeling like something is missing, like i've drifted to the female side. i'm putting up an old photo with the new ones so that you can compare. i haven't come out yet and don't pass in public, this is just for my personal satisfaction you know, so what do you think?
the old one-(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi800.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy281%2Fybtheoutlaw%2Fme%2Fme2_zps57595bb0.jpg&hash=ade69ec17093bba525eec4d9918f089c0af83289)
the new ones-(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi800.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy281%2Fybtheoutlaw%2Fme%2F140415-020823_zps2a678437.jpg&hash=3a9365e59ac68ecb94ed807ae85b6878e8f02dc9)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi800.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy281%2Fybtheoutlaw%2Fme%2F140415-020049_zpsdfdb4e11.jpg&hash=ebc746d97b02b8558e851ce7d45c9d27cb11e652)
apart from the haircut where can i improve?
thanx beforehand and just fyi i'm taking the photos down after few days. sorry but i'm too afraid.
Quote from: YBtheOutlaw on April 14, 2014, 04:13:28 PM
well, i got a haircut and this time it was a new saloonist. i felt alright at the saloon (maybe i was a bit distracted there, the new saloonist was quite attractive and you know ;) ) but since i got home and looked in the mirror i'm having this bad feeling like something is missing, like i've drifted to the female side. i'm putting up an old photo with the new ones so that you can compare. i haven't come out yet and don't pass in public, this is just for my personal satisfaction you know, so what do you think?
apart from the haircut where can i improve?
thanx beforehand and just fyi i'm taking the photos down after few days. sorry but i'm too afraid.
I think the hair looks cool, and I actually think you look more masculine in the last two pics. I think it's the angle, but your eyes look quite feminine in the first picture, but in the last two pictures, they don't. I think you look good :)
Quote from: Hex on April 14, 2014, 02:38:05 AM
2 months on T so far, I don't know if it's my voice or my face is still just screaming female but yeah, I haven't asked anyone but my husband and he says I'm in that "in between" stage. What do you guys think?
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Sorry man, you're not quite there yet. But you're close. From what I can see, I think a lot of it is just the shape of your face (jaw hasn't changed enough yet) and the texture of your skin. All of that will change relatively soon and I imagine after that you won't have any problems. :)
Quote from: ryanj884 on April 14, 2014, 12:56:40 PM
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pre-T. Excuse the weird expression. I had to cut my hair shorter than usual for job interviews, usually it's just a little longer. (I worry that shorter hair makes the roundness of my face more visible, but ehh)
From that picture you pass to me. I think your haircut actually looks pretty good at that length, I wish mine would go like that when it is short.
Quote from: YBtheOutlaw on April 14, 2014, 04:13:28 PM
apart from the haircut where can i improve?
thanx beforehand and just fyi i'm taking the photos down after few days. sorry but i'm too afraid.
From the pictures, I think a lot of it is your facial expressions, actually. Your face just seems very relaxed (especially the eyes), which isn't a bad thing in and of itself, but I find that for a lot of people it emphasizes feminine features. When I take pictures of myself (rarely) I look directly into the camera, like it's a nemesis. :P Not like "omg camera I'm going to kill you and your babies right now" because that would be too much, lol, just with confidence and directness.
so jealous of everyone *-*
Thanks everyone! I get curious looks out in public like people get confused when they see me so I guess that backs up the andro look lol. Hopefully in the next 4 months things will lean more in my favor haha
Three weeks on T, and after a haircut. Before a terrible acne outbreak though :p
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Wow Charlie! You look really good, and passing a 100% in my eyes!
Charlie, you look totally male
You pass to me Charlie
That haircut rocks, Charlie. You totally pass to me.
I'm Adrian, a few weeks shy of 26, gay transman. Pre-t currently, though 9/10 times I'm read as a male.
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One week on T, I've been feeling really confident with all the changes that I have been experiencing, but didn't pass today at the gym. :(
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Quote from: beaver on April 16, 2014, 08:24:01 PM
One week on T, I've been feeling really confident with all the changes that I have been experiencing, but didn't pass today at the gym. :(
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You pass 100% in my book! As for not passing at the gym yet, I feel your pain. We'll get there, though! ;D
Aben, your pic is really dark and kinda hard to see, but judging from it I'd say you pass.
Beaver, I also think you pass. The gym might be an especially hard place to pass, but you'll get there soon enough ;) With your looks I'd say within a few months on T
Thanks guys. I started out really really androgynous, so I'm probably a little ahead of the game.
Quote from: beaver on April 16, 2014, 08:24:01 PM
One week on T, I've been feeling really confident with all the changes that I have been experiencing, but didn't pass today at the gym. :(
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Not only pass (in the picture), but also very attractive, handsome smile! =)
You're going to do great.
I want to upload a new profile pic to my fb but i'm worried this one looks too female for some reason..
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Quote from: KamTheMan on April 17, 2014, 09:21:02 PM
I want to upload a new profile pic to my fb but i'm worried this one looks too female for some reason..
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mmm you look like a sexy beef cake ;) totes pass
Quote from: birkin on April 14, 2014, 04:56:26 PM
From the pictures, I think a lot of it is your facial expressions, actually. Your face just seems very relaxed (especially the eyes), which isn't a bad thing in and of itself, but I find that for a lot of people it emphasizes feminine features. When I take pictures of myself (rarely) I look directly into the camera, like it's a nemesis. :P Not like "omg camera I'm going to kill you and your babies right now" because that would be too much, lol, just with confidence and directness.
really? i never realized that. and i'm not very photogenic (wait, is there such a word in english?) so the only thing i know to do is smiling like an idiot or staring expressionless with that relaxed mood when i'm being photographed. i should try next time maybe, that too only if i manage to keep from bursting into laugh seeing my own expression. taking selfies is a very difficult task. oh and thank you. and i'm preT btw so things might improve.
Quote from: Jason C on April 14, 2014, 04:51:45 PM
I think the hair looks cool, and I actually think you look more masculine in the last two pics. I think it's the angle, but your eyes look quite feminine in the first picture, but in the last two pictures, they don't. I think you look good :)
cool! thanx dude! i guess i'm imagining things then. maybe my mom liking the cut sent me in the wrong direction, since she usually approves only the feminine stuff about me. eyes? maybe it's my loooong eyelashes which are quite visible in the first picture. i don't know what to do to them but i sort of like them, so they're going to stay like that. and it could just be the angle. also, my hair is already visibly longer (or taller to be exact- it grows radially outwards, not downwards. even when its several inches long) than in the photos and i'm feeling better about it. thanks for the feedback
Quote from: KamTheMan on April 17, 2014, 09:21:02 PM
I want to upload a new profile pic to my fb but i'm worried this one looks too female for some reason..
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I will tell you not to worry. You pass and more then that :) Very handsome KamTheMan, I'd say go for placing that as a profile picture on facebook :)
Adrian, you look like a guy I know.
Kam- you totally pass
Quote from: christopher on April 18, 2014, 10:08:59 AM
Adrian, you look like a guy I know.
Kam- you totally pass
Awesomeness! I tend to be pretty self-conscious as I'm currently overweight due to PCOS AND pre-t so any time I can 'pass' as a man is a good time in my book!
Quote from: KamTheMan on April 17, 2014, 09:21:02 PM
I want to upload a new profile pic to my fb but i'm worried this one looks too female for some reason..
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You look like a hot under-21 guy to me. The expression, pose, and shadows really lend to the 'male'. I wouldn't question that as a profile pic for a guy.
Quote from: YBtheOutlaw on April 18, 2014, 03:17:11 AM
really? i never realized that. and i'm not very photogenic (wait, is there such a word in english?) so the only thing i know to do is smiling like an idiot or staring expressionless with that relaxed mood when i'm being photographed. i should try next time maybe, that too only if i manage to keep from bursting into laugh seeing my own expression. taking selfies is a very difficult task. oh and thank you. and i'm preT btw so things might improve.
They will. :) My eyes changed drastically on T.
Quote from: KamTheMan on April 17, 2014, 09:21:02 PM
I want to upload a new profile pic to my fb but i'm worried this one looks too female for some reason..
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You look awesome, easily pass for sure :)
My turn. Tell it to me straight, folks:
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beaver - you are going to be a really handsome guy. You will be beating them off with a stick!
Kam-I think you look good in this pic. Good pose. You have that pretty boy look with a strong sultry masculinity mixed in. No worries, it is definitely male looking. If you are looking for a date, many (both guys and girls), go for this look.
Jason - I definitely think the hair pulled back looks more male. Better choice.
Quote from: YBtheOutlaw on April 18, 2014, 03:17:11 AM
photogenic (wait, is there such a word in english?)
Etymologically-speaking, shouldn't photogenic mean "light-producing?" :-\
thank you everyone for the awesome feedback! i went ahead and posted it, got some likes haha
Quote from: Jason C on April 18, 2014, 07:00:26 PM
You look awesome, easily pass for sure :)
My turn. Tell it to me straight, folks:
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Jason, I think you could go either way. I'd say androgynous for now. Honestly - you have serious potential with your features. I do, however, think that at this point in time your hair is working against you passing for me personally.
Quote from: Kreuzfidel on April 19, 2014, 04:19:12 AM
Jason, I think you could go either way. I'd say androgynous for now. Honestly - you have serious potential with your features. I do, however, think that at this point in time your hair is working against you passing for me personally.
I think Kreuzfidel is right Jason, your hair does work against you. However, I think that what would make a big difference if when it is pulled back you make it completely flat on top. When I see guys with their hair pulled back like that, it is flat, not puffy, which I think is more female. Consider doing that and then reposting, if you want feedback.
Also, I agree with Kreuzfidel that you definitely have features that will serve you well if you take testosterone. You have a heavy brow.
Quote from: Kreuzfidel on April 19, 2014, 04:19:12 AM
Jason, I think you could go either way. I'd say androgynous for now. Honestly - you have serious potential with your features. I do, however, think that at this point in time your hair is working against you passing for me personally.
I actually agree with you, I know my hair works against me. But there are certain things I'm not going to sacrifice for the sake of passing (although passing would mean a lot to me), and my hairstyle is one of them, for the time being at least. I've taken to just tying my hair back whenever I go out, and I do think I look a lot less female when it's tied back as opposed to when it's out. Thanks for your feedback, it's appreciated :)
Quote from: Brett on April 19, 2014, 08:11:26 AM
I think Kreuzfidel is right Jason, your hair does work against you. However, I think that what would make a big difference if when it is pulled back you make it completely flat on top. When I see guys with their hair pulled back like that, it is flat, not puffy, which I think is more female. Consider doing that and then reposting, if you want feedback.
Also, I agree with Kreuzfidel that you definitely have features that will serve you well if you take testosterone. You have a heavy brow.
Thanks for your feedback, Brett, I'll try making my hair flat and see how it goes.
As it stands, besides simply wanting to keep my dreads, I just kind of feel like short hair wouldn't suit my face and would make it look even more feminine. What do you think?
Quote from: Jason C on April 19, 2014, 02:35:19 PM
As it stands, besides simply wanting to keep my dreads, I just kind of feel like short hair wouldn't suit my face and would make it look even more feminine. What do you think?
I fully believe short hair would make you look more masculine. Your features are rounded, but they are strong. In the pictures with your hair pulled back, I can imagine it being short and I think it would work for you. Is your hair wavy or curly?
Thanks for the replies, everyone! :)
Jason: I agree with everyone else, you pass better in the second picture with your hair pulled back. I think the reason might be that most guys with long hair tend to groom it very very nicely (from what I see anyway), so just letting your hair fall wherever, like in the first picture, might work against you. Combing and tying it up would therefore help you pass? Purely my personal observation and experience, may or may not be true.
Kam: your face seems somewhat androgynous, but your hairstyle and arm muscles definitely swing it into the masculine side.
I know I'm a little more on the feminine side, which I'm fine with. People are beginning to stop misgendering me, if ever so slowly. Still, I get nervous. I want to be attractive to guys as a masculine guy, which I'm afraid won't happen as I appear more female.
Thoughts?
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I'm only one week on testosterone, but I thought I'd join in on the fun!
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I passed for the first time yesterday while going to the gym! I was walking in with my girlfriend and we asked for a locker. He looked at us and asked whether we needed a male (for me) or female (for her) locker. I was so shocked that I couldn't speak and my girlfriend said, "Oh the locker is for me!" I don't know how that happened, but it was the best feeling I've had in a long time. I'm only nineteen, so here's to hoping that T will give me good results down the road. :)
Jason, I agree that your hair works against you, but for the rest do you look pretty male/andro. I totally understand your feelings regarding your dreads, I had them too, half a year ago, and was very attached to them. Eventually I just felt like it was time for a change, added to that I felt like they hindered my passing I cut them all off. I regret it a bit, but at the time it was the right descision. I descided I'll take new dreads once I'm on T and pass consistently as male, which will probably take around 3 to 4 years from what I've seen from the waiting lists and all.
Harpatho, you pass to me as an andro/not uber masculine guy
Sir John Tristan, you DEFINITELY pass to me. You just look like any other guy.
Jason, I actually think your dreads read as pretty masculine, and you already pass fine to me. You've got thick manly eyebrows, and your little mona lisa half smile isn't super girly or anything. Rock those dreads buddy!
Quote from: BrotherBen on April 20, 2014, 08:39:28 AM
Jason, I actually think your dreads read as pretty masculine, and you already pass fine to me. You've got thick manly eyebrows, and your little mona lisa half smile isn't super girly or anything. Rock those dreads buddy!
yeah, IMO you look more fem in the picture with your hair pulled back, cause it just makes me think of a girls pony tail. Your face is really andro and it could swing both ways. I think once you are on T its gonna really transform your face and you are going to look very passable, handsome male, not that you aren't attractive now, you know what I mean.
Quote from: kate on April 20, 2014, 02:49:24 PM
Yeah you really do look like a young guy tbh. No wonder he asked :)
I agree! He looks like a young guy indeed. I never would have thought any different
Quote from: Harpotho on April 20, 2014, 01:29:16 AM
I know I'm a little more on the feminine side, which I'm fine with. People are beginning to stop misgendering me, if ever so slowly. Still, I get nervous. I want to be attractive to guys as a masculine guy, which I'm afraid won't happen as I appear more female.
Thoughts?
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/101ea4338a4e12a53954f9aecf45a9e7/tumblr_n4bgl165eM1qhc540o1_500.jpg)
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/e13772891ca9b05ff7872e36d47a2181/tumblr_n4bgl165eM1qhc540o2_500.jpg)
When I look at your pictures, I would think you are a guy, but with a face that is feminine. I dont think people would go, was he a woman before. Most people dont think that unless it is blatenly obvious as it doesnt go through their minds. I will give you the same advice I was given, be patient, result will come in time. and T will help a lot as time goes on.
I think everyone I've seen on here passes to me, or is at least well on the way! I've never posted on a thread like this and I'm glad to have found such a great group of guys.
Quote from: Jason C on April 18, 2014, 07:00:26 PM
You look awesome, easily pass for sure :)
My turn. Tell it to me straight, folks:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F1236sex.jpg&hash=1ac18c4e72ecfe5e2effe1f44b6111989e7909c9)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F2ajwgwo.jpg&hash=ed447ba4fd9c64bbbc3a1641ba550d81f2ed6bef)
I think you have a lot of potential. I'm honestly commenting because of the La Dispute hoodie though.
I got called he/him the other day when getting my prescription for meds at the pharmacy. I am pre T and my current legal name/birth name is feminine only. I must be passing well?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t1.0-9/10273422_1442273769350608_5164857979500310283_n.jpg)
Quote from: mynameisjacob on April 23, 2014, 09:02:17 AM
I got called he/him the other day when getting my prescription for meds at the pharmacy. I am pre T and my current legal name/birth name is feminine only. I must be passing well?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t1.0-9/10273422_1442273769350608_5164857979500310283_n.jpg)
Yeah, I would "He" you right up front!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs18.postimg.org%2F9o0x3sjvd%2F399256_10201170781142163_882493638_n.jpg&hash=c8b71c9cd0e781044974fa068498ccd48a910d16)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fx76jquyb9%2Fsupdarlin2_640x360.jpg&hash=24d0ffd6a46a3568f1fd735ea471566dc084a1d2)
Well lets try this again lol Almost a year on T Gel, I cant tell if I pass. My voice does, but the rest not sure. Thanks!
Dev
Quote from: DevonJermiah2 on April 23, 2014, 09:34:34 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs18.postimg.org%2F9o0x3sjvd%2F399256_10201170781142163_882493638_n.jpg&hash=c8b71c9cd0e781044974fa068498ccd48a910d16)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fx76jquyb9%2Fsupdarlin2_640x360.jpg&hash=24d0ffd6a46a3568f1fd735ea471566dc084a1d2)
Well lets try this again lol Almost a year on T Gel, I cant tell if I pass. My voice does, but the rest not sure. Thanks!
Dev
Dude. Yes.
Quote from: DevonJermiah2 on April 23, 2014, 09:34:34 PM
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fx76jquyb9%2Fsupdarlin2_640x360.jpg&hash=24d0ffd6a46a3568f1fd735ea471566dc084a1d2)
Well lets try this again lol Almost a year on T Gel, I cant tell if I pass. My voice does, but the rest not sure. Thanks!
Dev
Entirely. No question. Congrats on one year!
Quote from: Shantel on April 23, 2014, 10:50:34 AM
Yeah, I would "He" you right up front!
Sweet, thanks!
You have nothing to worry about, Devon. I wouldn't think twice if I saw you on the street.
Quote from: DevonJermiah2 on April 23, 2014, 09:34:34 PM
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fx76jquyb9%2Fsupdarlin2_640x360.jpg&hash=24d0ffd6a46a3568f1fd735ea471566dc084a1d2)
Well lets try this again lol Almost a year on T Gel, I cant tell if I pass. My voice does, but the rest not sure. Thanks!
Dev
Yes, yes, yes, a pass. I think you should move over to The Offical 'You Look Badass, Dude' Topic (Ver 2.0)
Quote from: Maleth on April 24, 2014, 03:22:19 PM
Ohh... well, it takes a bit of courage to put these up here..
In my experience, I've gotten a few "he"'s and "him"'s, but I don't expect to pass a lot. I just got a trim, so my hair looks a little awkward (sorry about that).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1308.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs617%2FMalethWolff%2Fphoto1_zps86b63b82.jpg&hash=a0f0bf58a292f607057e76319bdf577d1e9fabef)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1308.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs617%2FMalethWolff%2Fphoto2_zps5beead65.jpg&hash=1139b5bc672d8040d4a2db69649cb844c3f5258f)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1308.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs617%2FMalethWolff%2Fphoto3_zpse6fe6154.jpg&hash=cb8644a26339cb534af98bb766fb6e2b0d69ed9a)
(and yes, my ears are naturally weird like that :P I was born with them like that, and they eventually developed a little more as I matured)
I would peg you as a very young guy, but most definitely a pass
Maleth, you pass 100% to me - you don't look female at all. You do look really young, maybe around 12-15.
Maleth, you look very much like my younger brother. I'd perceive you as a boy or young man.
Def pass on all of these. Grats guys!
So I know I posted 2 pages back but I got my hair cut and figured I'd ask again real quick :-\
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F2u6n146.png&hash=a19108ac8509a0f130bd2a80e543ef3b3484b84b)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F67prav.jpg&hash=983f22828a7838e9ca7c5166c060e6290c58c288)
Quote from: Hex on April 25, 2014, 05:56:37 PM
Def pass on all of these. Grats guys!
So I know I posted 2 pages back but I got my hair cut and figured I'd ask again real quick :-\
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F2u6n146.png&hash=a19108ac8509a0f130bd2a80e543ef3b3484b84b)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F67prav.jpg&hash=983f22828a7838e9ca7c5166c060e6290c58c288)
Geeze, looking like some guy I wouldn't want to get into it with, great pix!
Which is so weird cause I'm one of the nicest people hahaha
Looking good, Hex. I think you definitely look more masculine in the second picture, too.
Quote from: Maleth on April 24, 2014, 03:22:19 PM
Ohh... well, it takes a bit of courage to put these up here..
In my experience, I've gotten a few "he"'s and "him"'s, but I don't expect to pass a lot. I just got a trim, so my hair looks a little awkward (sorry about that).
(and yes, my ears are naturally weird like that :P I was born with them like that, and they eventually developed a little more as I matured)
Yes it does! Welcome :)
I think you pass great in the 2nd and 3rd photos, but there's something just a tad off in the first. Maybe try thinning out the upper back part of your hair? Or tapering the back and sides?
Quote from: Hex on April 25, 2014, 05:56:37 PM
Def pass on all of these. Grats guys!
So I know I posted 2 pages back but I got my hair cut and figured I'd ask again real quick :-\
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F2u6n146.png&hash=a19108ac8509a0f130bd2a80e543ef3b3484b84b)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F67prav.jpg&hash=983f22828a7838e9ca7c5166c060e6290c58c288)
You definitely pass. I also agree that the second one you pass better. The glasses in the first one seem to be a little off with your whole presentation. You still pass though, it just for some reason the glasses look feminine to me.
Took these yesterday since I was dressed up all snazzy. I'm pre-T and haven't gotten a binder yet, so this is kinda the best I can do right now. :-\
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Frmr7N4n.jpg%3F1&hash=4a2b55762d300ee9c7376cd3fe0ce46f7c9e254c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLxesS28.jpg%3F1&hash=8b37286dafe3adbad62f79e90de5641a3b66f0af)
I happen to like these. Dysphoria often makes selfies hard to take.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FisEcY8B.jpg%3F1&hash=aba93d63f9d08a588d503b91636bc4d738b5c4c5)
That one was a couple days ago. I like it, though my facial structure looks awfully female in it >_<
So, there's the Reuben behind the interwebz mask! ^.^
Devon and Maleth, you both totally pass to me.
Reuben, you pass best in the last picture to me.
Hex, you rock the hat and sunglasses.
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I just can't seem to post pictures. I can't see myself as passing it all. One week until I start T.
Thanks guys!
@Tyler: I will have to look into seeing if my insurance will cover some more glasses and see if I can find a style that better suits me. I picked these out last year before I transitioned and I see what you're sayin about em. Yay for glasses shopping!
@ReubenIsTheName: Lookin good so far! Little bit female in the face still but you're def gettin there!
@Hex: You look masculine in both pictures but I would see you as female in the first and male in the second if I saw you on the street. Definitely agree that you need new glasses.
@Tyler: Your face is very feminine, but that hair cut looks great on you. Not passing yet, but not too far off.
(https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1613904_659594997408896_4582283249159131599_n.jpg)
This is me 1 week pre-t. I feel pretty ugh about this photo but hopefully once I start T I will have a chance of passing.
ok, I really hate that last picture but I'm trying to not delete it. this probably doesn't belong in the do I pass thread since it's a Photoshop but I wanted to see how I would look with a beard.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/10258768_659626790739050_3612638567750955590_n.jpg)
Hi Christopher
In the first pic. you look like a guy enjoy the the out doors, in the second pic. you look like a guy with a bit of a beard at his computer imo
Think you're lookin good Chris! Good luck on the T!
Christopher: I actually think the beard looks good! I can't wait to see your progress once you start T, it will be awesome :D
Here is just a quick video of my voice. How old do I sound?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi568.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss125%2FpLutherq%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fth_trim5EE92559-7620-4C48-9D64-68F2DE4A5668_zps40a0a55f.jpg&hash=024b543d2f98c8e03915e5276a76637e48c05fd4) (http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/ss125/pLutherq/Mobile%20Uploads/trim5EE92559-7620-4C48-9D64-68F2DE4A5668_zps40a0a55f.mp4)
Quote from: Maleth on April 24, 2014, 03:22:19 PM
Ohh... well, it takes a bit of courage to put these up here..
In my experience, I've gotten a few "he"'s and "him"'s, but I don't expect to pass a lot. I just got a trim, so my hair looks a little awkward (sorry about that).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1308.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs617%2FMalethWolff%2Fphoto1_zps86b63b82.jpg&hash=a0f0bf58a292f607057e76319bdf577d1e9fabef)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1308.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs617%2FMalethWolff%2Fphoto2_zps5beead65.jpg&hash=1139b5bc672d8040d4a2db69649cb844c3f5258f)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1308.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs617%2FMalethWolff%2Fphoto3_zpse6fe6154.jpg&hash=cb8644a26339cb534af98bb766fb6e2b0d69ed9a)
(and yes, my ears are naturally weird like that :P I was born with them like that, and they eventually developed a little more as I matured)
Totally pass, but you look rather young :D
Quote from: Hex on April 25, 2014, 05:56:37 PM
Def pass on all of these. Grats guys!
So I know I posted 2 pages back but I got my hair cut and figured I'd ask again real quick :-\
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F2u6n146.png&hash=a19108ac8509a0f130bd2a80e543ef3b3484b84b)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F67prav.jpg&hash=983f22828a7838e9ca7c5166c060e6290c58c288)
You look awesome, and I think you pass more in the second picture :)
Hey guys, I'm uploading the same picture again, but not to ask if I pass (I didn't know where else to ask this question). I've decided, for various reasons, to get rid of my dreads. So I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions as to what hairstyle might suit me? I have slightly curly hair.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2Fveu6g3.jpg&hash=e7425fdebad9457cddbd65a8f665e114ae8df130)
Not exactly the best picture I have, but it's the only recent one I have of just me, I don't wanna post my kid or gf on here.. Maybe I'll edit a different one later but what's your opinions from this?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs13.postimg.org%2F8w7zqeq07%2FIMG_20140420_195925.jpg&hash=5c64c82ed8cda42789f2ea7abb96dc186cd3fbce)
harlee- I'm a bad judge of age but you sound like a young adult and definitely male
Jason- sorry, I'm lousy at knowing stuff like that.
Sam- definitely pass in that picture.
@ Harlee - I agree with christopher - defo a young male, but 100% male.
@ Jason - I'm thinking something like one of these maybe - it depends on how short you want to go:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F0.tqn.com%2Fd%2Fmensfashion%2F1%2F0%2FJ%2F5%2F1%2F102295654_10.jpg&hash=c74428c02192917396ea448ff8659a74f4e9def5)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mens-hairstyle.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F06%2FBest-haircuts-for-curly-hair-men.jpg&hash=86290cca0d69c82c11d703e524cb7e3258bfaf92)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1-ps.googleusercontent.com%2Fx%2Fwww.becomegorgeous.com%2Fstatic.becomegorgeous.com%2Fimg%2Farts%2F2013%2F9%2Fhairstyles-for-men-with-curly-hair%2Fgallery_big_vintage_short_curly_hairstyle_for_men.jpg&hash=64abc64e751bd415042685a56ef3813cc5f5c43c)
@ Sam - Slightly androgynous, but I'd say a young boy overall.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/10154108_785951724749764_4276828239939541042_n.jpg)
Thoughts? I am pre everything. Sorry about the dorky face, that is pretty much my default mode. And the lopsided glasses, they're broken. :I
You sound great Harlee! I dunno, 18-20? Love the accent.
Quote from: Sam- on April 28, 2014, 10:55:53 PM
Not exactly the best picture I have, but it's the only recent one I have of just me, I don't wanna post my kid or gf on here.. Maybe I'll edit a different one later but what's your opinions from this?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs13.postimg.org%2F8w7zqeq07%2FIMG_20140420_195925.jpg&hash=5c64c82ed8cda42789f2ea7abb96dc186cd3fbce)
Easily pass to me :)
Quote from: Kreuzfidel on April 29, 2014, 03:05:45 AM
@ Jason - I'm thinking something like one of these maybe - it depends on how short you want to go:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F0.tqn.com%2Fd%2Fmensfashion%2F1%2F0%2FJ%2F5%2F1%2F102295654_10.jpg&hash=c74428c02192917396ea448ff8659a74f4e9def5)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mens-hairstyle.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F06%2FBest-haircuts-for-curly-hair-men.jpg&hash=86290cca0d69c82c11d703e524cb7e3258bfaf92)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1-ps.googleusercontent.com%2Fx%2Fwww.becomegorgeous.com%2Fstatic.becomegorgeous.com%2Fimg%2Farts%2F2013%2F9%2Fhairstyles-for-men-with-curly-hair%2Fgallery_big_vintage_short_curly_hairstyle_for_men.jpg&hash=64abc64e751bd415042685a56ef3813cc5f5c43c)
Thanks, I like those. I just think my face is a bit...round/fat to pull off short hair? :\
Quote from: Ouriço on April 29, 2014, 04:21:49 AM
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Thoughts? I am pre everything. Sorry about the dorky face, that is pretty much my default mode. And the lopsided glasses, they're broken. :I
Just look like a young guy to me :D I like your shirt!
Quote from: Ouriço on April 29, 2014, 04:21:49 AM
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Thoughts? I am pre everything. Sorry about the dorky face, that is pretty much my default mode. And the lopsided glasses, they're broken. :I
I'd peg you as a 17-ish boy. Also, as a cutie!
I got glasses! Do they make me look more masculine or less masculine?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F37.media.tumblr.com%2F14be7768b6ec88c135c4e391754ab59f%2Ftumblr_n4ps5w1Vv91qhc540o1_500.jpg&hash=062a8e2daf762ee1a8552a7d8179277213479241)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Fededaae4920e5d30c04e385001d8c252%2Ftumblr_n43u6fm5YW1qhc540o1_1280.jpg&hash=ced6dd4eec62f47ecc56602f1c8e7c544574a30e)
Quote from: Harpotho on April 29, 2014, 08:28:01 PM
I got glasses! Do they make me look more masculine or less masculine?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F37.media.tumblr.com%2F14be7768b6ec88c135c4e391754ab59f%2Ftumblr_n4ps5w1Vv91qhc540o1_500.jpg&hash=062a8e2daf762ee1a8552a7d8179277213479241)
with glasses looks more masculine imo ;D 8)
Quote from: Harpotho on April 29, 2014, 08:28:01 PM
I got glasses! Do they make me look more masculine or less masculine?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F37.media.tumblr.com%2F14be7768b6ec88c135c4e391754ab59f%2Ftumblr_n4ps5w1Vv91qhc540o1_500.jpg&hash=062a8e2daf762ee1a8552a7d8179277213479241)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Fededaae4920e5d30c04e385001d8c252%2Ftumblr_n43u6fm5YW1qhc540o1_1280.jpg&hash=ced6dd4eec62f47ecc56602f1c8e7c544574a30e)
You pass to me with and without glasses. :)
Quote from: Ouriço on April 29, 2014, 04:21:49 AM
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Thoughts? I am pre everything. Sorry about the dorky face, that is pretty much my default mode. And the lopsided glasses, they're broken. :I
You're looking pretty good! You look like a young sorta scrawny guy. You'll do well on T.
Quote from: Jason C on April 28, 2014, 03:12:06 PM
Hey guys, I'm uploading the same picture again, but not to ask if I pass (I didn't know where else to ask this question). I've decided, for various reasons, to get rid of my dreads. So I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions as to what hairstyle might suit me? I have slightly curly hair.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2Fveu6g3.jpg&hash=e7425fdebad9457cddbd65a8f665e114ae8df130)
Hey Jason! What about these hairstyles? I think they would suit you.
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhairstyles.thehairstyler.com%2Fhairstyle_views%2Ffront_view_images%2F7492%2Foriginal%2FGoyte.jpg&hash=edd643f1fb04277432fe8fbde0062fe3d753d80f)
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Also, you look great in your avatar picture (how it's pulled back like that). It makes you look very masculine, especially when it looks unkept.
Well, I have actually been meaning to buy glasses, but every time I think I can get new ones, something comes up and bye bye money. So... I thought I would ask here if my glasses pass or not? They are pink... Which is the thing I don't like about them, but I was wondering if the shape of them makes me also look more feminine, and if they do... Any suggestions for frames that might suit me?
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Here is how I look without them
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And I shall end this post with a silly picture!
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Dalex
I wouldn't say that you didn't pass with glasses, but I might be a tad unsure in certain angles and with the colour. Without your glasses you definitely pass to me though. I'm not very good with glasses, but everyone says square frames are generally better for masculinising your face, and definitely not pink!
Yeah... The pink definitely does not help... Those were bought before I came out and my sister was dragging me on one of the "You are a girl" shopping trips... Only reason why I got them was because they were the cheapest once I could get. I have been wondering if I should try to airbrush them black, or just... Do something to make them black xP
Well, I can, and do, just go without glasses. I'm not so near sighted I can't get from A to B, just occasionally walk into stuff and have a hard time reading signs xP
You can absolutely spray paint them, I've done that to sunglasses haha... You pass to me in all of the pictures but you look VERY young, which can bring it's own issues. Last time I wore casual clothes a waitress joked with me if I was old enough to drink coffee >_<
dalex, I think you pass better without the glasses but the glasses don't make it impossible for you to pass. A color other than pink would probably be good. If you paint them you totally have to post pictures.
Quote from: Jason C on April 28, 2014, 03:12:06 PM
Hey guys, I'm uploading the same picture again, but not to ask if I pass (I didn't know where else to ask this question). I've decided, for various reasons, to get rid of my dreads. So I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions as to what hairstyle might suit me? I have slightly curly hair.
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I have no advice on hair cuts. I'm bad at that stuff. But I totally came to find this post because I saw a guy with dreads walking by earlier and he totally reminded me of you.
Quote from: Polo on May 01, 2014, 11:56:03 PM
You can absolutely spray paint them, I've done that to sunglasses haha... You pass to me in all of the pictures but you look VERY young, which can bring it's own issues. Last time I wore casual clothes a waitress joked with me if I was old enough to drink coffee >_<
I think i will try spray painting them then :P And yes... most people actually get shocked when they find out I'm 23 xD I was actually asked for my ID once when I was at a cafe and the only thing I ordered was coffee... And they say smoking and drinking coffee will make you look older, I started both when I was about 13. But, a pass is a pass :)
Dalex the lenses match your face and are neutral next pair you get look for the thinner arms. That is the thing that stands out the most you very rarely see a frame like that on a guy (however keep in mind you have asked, unless I pass you close up and see them side on I wouldn't notice). As long as there is no flower pattern or something similar on the arms nobody will notice or care anyway. Colour I can't tell from the photo so I don't know how pink the frames are. But I've worn rose colored glasses since I was a child and have had some very out there colours for my frames to go with them. If you have the personality nobody will see pink frames and a girl.
But even from the photos and with them on I'm definitely seeing a guy.
Quote from: Dalex on May 01, 2014, 05:31:57 PM
Well, I have actually been meaning to buy glasses, but every time I think I can get new ones, something comes up and bye bye money. So... I thought I would ask here if my glasses pass or not? They are pink... Which is the thing I don't like about them, but I was wondering if the shape of them makes me also look more feminine, and if they do... Any suggestions for frames that might suit me?
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And I shall end this post with a silly picture!
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Hey Dalex,
You're a nice looking kid and that's not a bad thing for a male or a female, so go with the flow because we all get just older than dirt and homely as hell soon enough. The glasses look great on you, I don't think glasses add or detract from maleness unless they are "Glamor Girls" or some similar brand. Love the goofy photo, we all need a sense of humor, it's clear that you aren't lacking.
Quote from: christopher on May 02, 2014, 11:49:26 PM
I have no advice on hair cuts. I'm bad at that stuff. But I totally came to find this post because I saw a guy with dreads walking by earlier and he totally reminded me of you.
Aha, that's very cool!
And Dalex, I think you pass better without the glasses, but the glasses look good on you, just need to be another colour, obviously :)
I didnt even notice the glasses were pink, I thought they were red lol I'm so bad with colors but you look fine to me dalex, you could also try contacts
Quote from: Shantel on May 03, 2014, 08:57:41 AM
Hey Dalex,
You're a nice looking kid and that's not a bad thing for a male or a female, so go with the flow because we all get just older than dirt and homely as hell soon enough. The glasses look great on you, I don't think glasses add or detract from maleness unless they are "Glamor Girls" or some similar brand. Love the goofy photo, we all need a sense of humor, it's clear that you aren't lacking.
Thanks Shantel :) There is nothing really girly about them other then the color.
Thanks everyone :) I'll definitely see about getting them colored black and see how that goes :)
But, I was wondering since I was going to post a cover on my facebook, but I suppose I'm sort of half way stealth on my facebook and to those who haven't batten an eyelid when I introduce myself by the name I am going by now. So, I was wondering those who would be willing to listen on how the voice sounds, if it passes.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0vbTVwEHjbB
I will also say, there is a part where I screw a bit up, I haven't played guitar for six or seven years and I bought this one yesterday :)
Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it from all, good or bad! :-)
Quote from: Dalex on May 03, 2014, 10:30:17 PM
Thanks Shantel :) There is nothing really girly about them other then the color.
Thanks everyone :) I'll definitely see about getting them colored black and see how that goes :)
But, I was wondering since I was going to post a cover on my facebook, but I suppose I'm sort of half way stealth on my facebook and to those who haven't batten an eyelid when I introduce myself by the name I am going by now. So, I was wondering those who would be willing to listen on how the voice sounds, if it passes.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0vbTVwEHjbB
I will also say, there is a part where I screw a bit up, I haven't played guitar for six or seven years and I bought this one yesterday :)
I think you pass well in your pictures, heck I didn't even notice your glasses were pink :laugh: You pass as a young dude to me, maybe 14-16 years or so. Your voice passes to me, though I would think you were a young guy from solely listening to it as well.
Quote from: Dalex on May 03, 2014, 10:30:17 PM
I was wondering those who would be willing to listen on how the voice sounds, if it passes.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0vbTVwEHjbB
I will also say, there is a part where I screw a bit up, I haven't played guitar for six or seven years and I bought this one yesterday :)
I think you sing well and I like your voice, that of a boy perhaps, but then again you do look like a boy. I haven't been following the FtM threads actively so I'm not intentionally being ignorant of your transition history and am wondering if you are on T? I find it really amazing how some guys voice will drop several octaves on it though I don't recommend it for everyone because there's no coming back once the voice drops.
Thanks Maleth and Shantel :)
Quote from: Shantel on May 04, 2014, 09:09:20 AM
I think you sing well and I like your voice, that of a boy perhaps, but then again you do look like a boy. I haven't been following the FtM threads actively so I'm not intentionally being ignorant of your transition history and am wondering if you are on T? I find it really amazing how some guys voice will drop several octaves on it though I don't recommend it for everyone because there's no coming back once the voice drops.
I haven't started T yet, just been practicing both singing and speaking as low as I possibly can in the last few months. I'm actually looking forward to hear how my voice will change. But, considering how the system is here, it will be at least a year before they will consider giving me any hormones. But till then! I will see if I can continue trying to lower my range :P
Maybe an odd question, but I wondered if I would pass without a beard.
I've been almost a year on T, and facial hair wise I'm doing great. I love to have a bit of a beard and mainly just trim it. I pass in real life, but I have a suspicion that this is mainly thanks to the facial hair. I would like to shave my facial hair and have it grow anew. You know, a fresh beard. But if that would mean I'd have to get by being called madam and what not for a while I'm not sure it'll be worth it. What do you guys thing? If I'd shave, would I be misgendered?
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Mr X, you don't look female to me in the slightest. I don't think shaving is going to get you ma'amed.
Quote from: Mr.X on May 05, 2014, 04:55:07 AM
Maybe an odd question, but I wondered if I would pass without a beard.
I've been almost a year on T, and facial hair wise I'm doing great. I love to have a bit of a beard and mainly just trim it. I pass in real life, but I have a suspicion that this is mainly thanks to the facial hair. I would like to shave my facial hair and have it grow anew. You know, a fresh beard. But if that would mean I'd have to get by being called madam and what not for a while I'm not sure it'll be worth it. What do you guys thing? If I'd shave, would I be misgendered?
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with or without beard, you look like a SIR to me, a HOT one ! :)
Quote from: Mr.X on May 05, 2014, 04:55:07 AM
Maybe an odd question, but I wondered if I would pass without a beard.
I've been almost a year on T, and facial hair wise I'm doing great. I love to have a bit of a beard and mainly just trim it. I pass in real life, but I have a suspicion that this is mainly thanks to the facial hair. I would like to shave my facial hair and have it grow anew. You know, a fresh beard. But if that would mean I'd have to get by being called madam and what not for a while I'm not sure it'll be worth it. What do you guys thing? If I'd shave, would I be misgendered?
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You look great, man! I don't think you'll be misgendered if you shave at all. I wish I looked like you. :laugh:
Quote from: Mr.X on May 05, 2014, 04:55:07 AM
Maybe an odd question, but I wondered if I would pass without a beard.
I've been almost a year on T, and facial hair wise I'm doing great. I love to have a bit of a beard and mainly just trim it. I pass in real life, but I have a suspicion that this is mainly thanks to the facial hair. I would like to shave my facial hair and have it grow anew. You know, a fresh beard. But if that would mean I'd have to get by being called madam and what not for a while I'm not sure it'll be worth it. What do you guys thing? If I'd shave, would I be misgendered?
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No way, you'll pass just fine without the beard :D
Mr.X I second what everyone else said. You will pass fine without a beard. There is seriously NOTHING what sets me off as female. No worries bro! ;)
so i kind of felt badass in this pic and hoping I look like a dude? llol i am pre T, so I know my face still looks feminine at times
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Id have to see you without glasses, but based on this pic Id say you pass well.
Quote from: Ryan55 on May 06, 2014, 12:53:35 PM
so i kind of felt badass in this pic and hoping I look like a dude? llol i am pre T, so I know my face still looks feminine at times
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sexy cool man !
;D
yep, you pass in that picture. The shades are good.
Quote from: Mr.X on May 05, 2014, 04:55:07 AM
Maybe an odd question, but I wondered if I would pass without a beard.
I've been almost a year on T, and facial hair wise I'm doing great. I love to have a bit of a beard and mainly just trim it. I pass in real life, but I have a suspicion that this is mainly thanks to the facial hair. I would like to shave my facial hair and have it grow anew. You know, a fresh beard. But if that would mean I'd have to get by being called madam and what not for a while I'm not sure it'll be worth it. What do you guys thing? If I'd shave, would I be misgendered?
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I have the exact same problem, I shaved it off (not that it's much) and I was scared of being called woman, nobody called me woman so far and my classmates didn't mention anything.
I shaved my stache 2 times since I started T (2 years ago lol) maybe you could just trim it until you feel ready to shave, and otherwise you could do the same as I do and shave everything but the
stache.
P.S You don't look female in any way :)
Quote from: DanTheMan on May 07, 2014, 03:24:25 PM
I have the exact same problem, I shaved it off (not that it's much) and I was scared of being called woman, nobody called me woman so far and my classmates didn't mention anything.
I shaved my stache 2 times since I started T (2 years ago lol) maybe you could just trim it until you feel ready to shave, and otherwise you could do the same as I do and shave everything but the
stache.
P.S You don't look female in any way :)
am curious to see your pic heehee ;D
Quote from: Ryan55 on May 06, 2014, 12:53:35 PM
so i kind of felt badass in this pic and hoping I look like a dude? llol i am pre T, so I know my face still looks feminine at times
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I never would have thought you were pre-T. Awesome. You totally look like a dude. You plan on going on T?
Quote from: Ryan55 on May 06, 2014, 12:53:35 PM
so i kind of felt badass in this pic and hoping I look like a dude? llol i am pre T, so I know my face still looks feminine at times
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You look excellent, dude! I know it's probably just the lighting, but at first I thought I saw a hint of facial hair growing in, haha.
lol yeah its the lighting, I wish it was and yeah i'm going on T, my first consultation appointment is may 19th, pretty excited
ok, my hair is irritating me. And I'm thinking I might want it differently. And my glasses worry me. Are they too feminine?
This is a bad picture of me but here you go...
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Quote from: christopher on May 08, 2014, 09:30:31 AM
ok, my hair is irritating me. And I'm thinking I might want it differently. And my glasses worry me. Are they too feminine?
This is a bad picture of me but here you go...
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I would get a different haircut maybe spike it up or shave it off?
The glasses arent feminine they're more unisex but if they're bothering you, you could look for very squared glasses, they tend to look very masculine.
Btw: you don't look feminine at all way to go :D
Quote from: Jason C on May 08, 2014, 01:10:25 AM
Quote from: Ryan55 on May 06, 2014, 12:53:35 PM
so i kind of felt badass in this pic and hoping I look like a dude? llol i am pre T, so I know my face still looks feminine at times
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You look excellent, dude! I know it's probably just the lighting, but at first I thought I saw a hint of facial hair growing in, haha.
Yeah, I pretty much second this, at a glance I definitely thought you had a mustache growing in. Either way, you 100% pass to me, Ryan!
Quote from: christopher on May 08, 2014, 09:30:31 AM
ok, my hair is irritating me. And I'm thinking I might want it differently. And my glasses worry me. Are they too feminine?
This is a bad picture of me but here you go...
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Your glasses look fine to me, though if they're really much of a bother for you personally I recommend getting squared ones. Little details like that can go a long way to help a person pass, but I don't think you have to worry much.. you pass to me in this picture :)
Quote from: Ryan55 on May 06, 2014, 12:53:35 PM
so i kind of felt badass in this pic and hoping I look like a dude? llol i am pre T, so I know my face still looks feminine at times
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Total badass dude, looking good studmister, I'm impressed!
thanks guys I appreciate it
I don't have many great pictures, but I have one from impossible astronaut day (any Doctor Who folks out there?) and I got a pretty good side profile. Do I pass at all? How or should I get my hair lopped off? :-\
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Sorry if pics don't show, I'm new here and don't know what I'm doing. :P
hi Luke, welcome to Susan's Place.
It's hard to tell from the pictures since it's a little dark and in the top you're looking down. I'd say you have potential to pass, though as someone young. I like your hair the way it is, lots of guys have hair the same way. Cutting your hair doesn't always help in making you pass better. I like the glasses too, they fit.
Good luck.
I'd agree with that, when I was younger with a shaggy skater or even shoulder length hair I'd get comments from older men that they used to wear their hair the same way when they were my age.
Just dropping these in here. It's approaching 6 months since I came out as trans.
What do ya'll think. Any passing tips are greatly appreciated.
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By the way, some days I am flat and other days I'm not. I don't understand why this is. Does anyone have any ideas?
Also do my glasses make me look more feminine? And what kind of glasses would you recommend?
Quote from: Caleb18 on May 13, 2014, 11:31:15 PM
Just dropping these in here. It's approaching 6 months since I came out as trans.
What do ya'll think. Any passing tips are greatly appreciated.
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By the way, some days I am flat and other days I'm not. I don't understand why this is. Does anyone have any ideas?
Also do my glasses make me look more feminine? And what kind of glasses would you recommend?
the first pic you def pass in to me, I think it depends on the shirt for the flat thing, I know I have some shirts i wear and I look completely flat but then others you tell I have a little something there, I notice darker shirts look flatter, far as glasses go get squared off ones, looks more masculine to me than rounded ones, I usually just wear contacts lol
Quote from: christopher on May 08, 2014, 09:30:31 AM
ok, my hair is irritating me. And I'm thinking I might want it differently. And my glasses worry me. Are they too feminine?
This is a bad picture of me but here you go...
(https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10247254_652821044752958_7664188136065472109_n.jpg)
You totally pass and have nothing to worry about, but if you're not a fan of the glasses, go for something else. Got to find your own style; not just the style that will make you pass the most, but the one that suits your personality as well.
Quote from: christopher on May 08, 2014, 09:30:31 AM
ok, my hair is irritating me. And I'm thinking I might want it differently. And my glasses worry me. Are they too feminine?
This is a bad picture of me but here you go...
(https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10247254_652821044752958_7664188136065472109_n.jpg)
Well hi Christopher, there you are my friend! My eldest son's name is Christopher too! I like your glasses, they're fine because they are rimless and frankly rimless glasses are the best because they are unisex and don't make a loud statement like "Ok look, I'm wearing glasses" like Superman in his horn rimmed glasses once did.
Quote from: Ryan55 on May 06, 2014, 12:53:35 PM
so i kind of felt badass in this pic and hoping I look like a dude? llol i am pre T, so I know my face still looks feminine at times[/URL]
That's incredible that you are Pre-T, because honestly your face looks very masculine to me. Total stud.
Quote from: L00T on May 14, 2014, 08:37:46 PM
That's incredible that you are Pre-T, because honestly your face looks very masculine to me. Total stud.
thanks I appreciate it, my voice gives me away though if you heard me lol
Quote from: Caleb18 on May 13, 2014, 11:31:15 PM
Just dropping these in here. It's approaching 6 months since I came out as trans.
What do ya'll think. Any passing tips are greatly appreciated.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t1.0-9/10366009_717936104911829_1515198817502586708_n.jpg)
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By the way, some days I am flat and other days I'm not. I don't understand why this is. Does anyone have any ideas?
Also do my glasses make me look more feminine? And what kind of glasses would you recommend?
You pass very well! :)
Quote from: Ryan55 on May 15, 2014, 06:30:39 AM
thanks I appreciate it, my voice gives me away though if you heard me lol
Nope. Just watched one of your videos. Still very manly. You can't avoid it. You pass very well. ;D
But you only feel that way because you've lived with yourself all of your life, so you judge yourself harsher than some stranger like me would.
Caleb, you pass. Especially in that second picture.
So, I did get a haircut. It's probably not what I'll stick with but it's ok?
(https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/1964869_672725526095843_4001645316745138079_n.jpg)
And I know it's probably lame but I'm sort of pleased with my arms. I just took my third t shot today, so hopefully they will end up looking more defined but at least I have muscle mass in my arms. Or am I lying to myself?
Quote from: christopher on May 15, 2014, 08:11:55 PM
Caleb, you pass. Especially in that second picture.
So, I did get a haircut. It's probably not what I'll stick with but it's ok?
(https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/1964869_672725526095843_4001645316745138079_n.jpg)
And I know it's probably lame but I'm sort of pleased with my arms. I just took my third t shot today, so hopefully they will end up looking more defined but at least I have muscle mass in my arms. Or am I lying to myself?
i'm jealous of your arms lol can't wait to start T
Quote from: L00T on May 15, 2014, 11:42:33 AM
Nope. Just watched one of your videos. Still very manly. You can't avoid it. You pass very well. ;D
But you only feel that way because you've lived with yourself all of your life, so you judge yourself harsher than some stranger like me would.
lol well thanks and yeah I do judge myself harder, still can't wait to start T
Hey everyone,
Was wondering if I pass? Be honest, no sugar-coating please :)
<<<<
Just got it cut and already feel a lot happier and confident with myself already - amazing what a hair cut can do! ::)
Quote from: HumanBeing on May 16, 2014, 12:45:12 PM
Hey everyone,
Was wondering if I pass? Be honest, no sugar-coating please :)
<<<<
Just got it cut and already feel a lot happier and confident with myself already - amazing what a hair cut can do! ::)
Yes.
Thank you randomdude5 ;D
@Human being: absolutely, no question. Probably worth posting in the other forum, bc that picture's pretty Badass :)
HumanBeing (cool name) you pass so well. I'm jealous.
Thanks @ Polo
@ Christopher thank you :)
I get 'miss' and 'sir' like 50/50 depends but I think most people assume I'm a little boy or something...
It's the kids that tend to get it correct (and always have done) while most others get it very very wrong. My name tag at work has my birth name on it too - so I try and stand in a way that people can't see it!
Quote from: HumanBeing on May 16, 2014, 12:45:12 PM
Hey everyone,
Was wondering if I pass? Be honest, no sugar-coating please :)
<<<<
Just got it cut and already feel a lot happier and confident with myself already - amazing what a hair cut can do! ::)
From that photo, definitely yes.
Quote from: HumanBeing on May 17, 2014, 07:22:14 AM
Thanks @ Polo
@ Christopher thank you :)
I get 'miss' and 'sir' like 50/50 depends but I think most people assume I'm a little boy or something...
It's the kids that tend to get it correct (and always have done) while most others get it very very wrong. My name tag at work has my birth name on it too - so I try and stand in a way that people can't see it!
From your pic that surprises me - I can't see how you look at all like a "miss". You totally pass to me.
Quote from: Johnny Tristan on May 15, 2014, 08:44:16 PM
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Looking good!!
Hey guys, so I'm definitely at the stage in my life where I pass 99% of the time (depending who I'm with) but I was wondering about how old you'd peg me for my face alone. Sorry that these pics aren't the best quality.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Fd91138ded9c492caa0903d98347d1f8b%2Ftumblr_n4ywdlotyR1r22cdto1_1280.jpg&hash=9fad5d0c13e38b8071f59437960bc19b01320399)
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F37.media.tumblr.com%2F329c0d1b1792daf7296da17ec2a8aaa4%2Ftumblr_n3mzhhPQB41r22cdto1_500.jpg&hash=25b1c6b4e9c8b21649e232b4bab53d0436686dff)
Thanks!
@ Crookedjaw:
About 14 or 15 IMHO.
Quote from: Kreuzfidel on May 19, 2014, 03:43:03 AM
@ Crookedjaw:
About 14 or 15 IMHO.
That's not bad at all, considering all my friends say I look 12 haha thank you!
Quote from: Evan of Spades on May 18, 2014, 08:32:18 AM
From your pic that surprises me - I can't see how you look at all like a "miss". You totally pass to me.
Thank you :) It's getting better at work - mostly read as male...unless they see my name tag..or sometimes when I start talking they look confused :D
Quote from: Crookedjaw on May 18, 2014, 09:07:29 AM
Hey guys, so I'm definitely at the stage in my life where I pass 99% of the time (depending who I'm with) but I was wondering about how old you'd peg me for my face alone. Sorry that these pics aren't the best quality.
in that first picture you look super young. I can see why your friends say 12. In the other pictures you look older. I agree with 14 or 15
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F37.media.tumblr.com%2Fd3cf36e6249481258537f898fabe8307%2Ftumblr_n5phwyjd4s1s7ykcco3_500.jpg&hash=005495e99d4ba3beca0dbfa01c35757cdc064075)
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3 months on T erry body.
by 8 months i expect to be able to cut a man down with my jawline alone. gettin them jaw dimples which is just perfect considering my head used to be perfectly round and i resembled more a coconut.
Quote from: BeefxCake on May 19, 2014, 07:43:50 PM
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3 months on T erry body.
by 8 months i expect to be able to cut a man down with my jawline alone. gettin them jaw dimples which is just perfect considering my head used to be perfectly round and i resembled more a coconut.
Wow! You look *EXTREMELY* handsome *_* I'm jealous, bro. 200% Pass. I envy the jawline/jaw dimples too, nice!
THanks ;3;
that makes me feel good
self esteem isssues, T made me gain 20 pounds so im just like, scum of the earth mode rn.
Whoa, BeefxCake, I remember some pics you posted pre-T and that's a HUGE change, especially for 3 months! I can't believe how much the lower half of your face has masculinized.
Quote from: BeefxCake on May 19, 2014, 07:43:50 PM
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3 months on T erry body.
by 8 months i expect to be able to cut a man down with my jawline alone. gettin them jaw dimples which is just perfect considering my head used to be perfectly round and i resembled more a coconut.
Wow, you look so much like your av In these pics!! And you look great. Really really.
Wow BeefxCake, you look all man :) and a handsome one too
You look so great, Beefcake!! You have changed so much in just 3 months on T. I'll be a year on T in July and you look better than me lol!
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Took a selfie in class the other day, and thought I passed pretty decently for my pre T, pre op status. What do you guys think??
Beefcake, wow just wow :O
I actually had to see if I was in the 'official bad ass' topic or not. Thought for a moment there I had actually pressed the wrong thread. xD
Looking great man, and that jawline. Wow.
I feel like I said wow too much xD
I agree with others, you look all man, and handsome one too :).
Reuben, those glasses actually look pretty darn bad ass on you.
At least from the angle of the photo, I would say a pass :) That hairstyle rocks btw x3
I know I have asked this before, but I was wondering if few of you could spare a moment and listen to a recording? My dysphoria has been kicking my arse lately, so I feel so torn from playing the guitar (have trouble keeping the rhythm if I dont sing along) and just keeping my mouth shut like I usually do when my dysphoria gets really bad. So, I wanted to know how my voice is read now.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s15DSq9jiCZm
Dalex: ahhh thanks ;3;
I dont have a problem passing really anymore but i would never think im an attractive guy xD so thanks xD
Konor: thanks! No you look great too :P
Melanie: wow thanks!
Ya'll are so nice Q~Q
Quote from: chipper on May 21, 2014, 08:57:53 PM
I often look at this thread but haven't actually taken the time to post or comment... until I listened to your recording.
Good stuff, amigo! Your voice and musical abilities are KILLERRRRR! Keep it up :-)
Thank you :D I'm actually happy to hear that :) I have heard that my voice is in a bit of a limbo, hard to tell if it sounds male or female. Hoping T will actually make it more to the male side. But again, thank you :) I actually have only been really playing the guitar for about three weeks or so xD But I will say, before that I was on the Ukulele like a mad man, so I have the grasp of string instrument down.
I pass most of the time, but I'm curious as to how old I look? I'm 20 and pre T
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I would be asking for your I.D (drinking/gambling age is 18), BUT I wouldn't dispute your age saying 20. From the photo all I see is a guy and I have to keep one eye on people all day at work so congratulations
Thanks, I usually get 15-16. I actually got asked if I was over 15 to buy a DVD once...
Posted in the wrong forum....here we go. ;D
I've gotten a lil chunky since then but here's some pics:
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/3979b1a877963787896870c9ff214230/tumblr_n62bx5yb8u1ratf4io1_500.jpg)
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m76z1geq4T1ratf4io1_500.jpg)
Quote from: echo_artist on May 24, 2014, 11:41:35 PM
Posted in the wrong forum....here we go. ;D
I've gotten a lil chunky since then but here's some pics:
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/3979b1a877963787896870c9ff214230/tumblr_n62bx5yb8u1ratf4io1_500.jpg)
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m76z1geq4T1ratf4io1_500.jpg)
You can post in either forum because you're pretty darned cute at this point, Erm you probably didn't want to hear that but it's true! Anyway, you're real young and can grow into whatever you plan to do with your life. Nice pix!
I don't mind being called cute. It's just a word. :3
And thanks! I appreciate it ALOT!
Hey! You guys look great! Keep it up :D
It's wicked hard to pass pre-T unless you're a lucky sob. :( You guys are doin good though!
I don't think I'm allowed to post images yet. I'll post one when I'm able. Unless using tags works.
I feel like I don't pass.
Most of the guys around where I live....are kind of "scraggidty" (heard that from a friend for just lewd and messy)
So, me being 'proper' makes me look more like a lesbian than a guy. Plus my hips are HUGE for my size. :I
I'll try to make a recent photo.
Dalex, first of all you have an awesome voice and musical ability so keep singing. And you picked a song I love. Your voice could be read either way right now. I was singing the other day trying to figure out what my voice was doing and realized how many men's voices on the radio could totally pass as females. I guess what I'm trying to say is that gender in music is very fluid and you are doing great.
Thanks Cristopher :) Actually reading that makes everything so much better :) I am looking forward though on hearing and seeing the chances when I start T, but at the rate things are going it's going to be a while :/ The main head of the gender therapy team here just keeps on moving my meetings :/
I thought I passed okay in this picture, but now I sort of need it cause I want to post it in a "show your faaace" thread on a forum I'm on and they only know me as a guy there, sooo, now I'm all insecure about it .__.;;
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Rawb, I would say that picture passes actually really well. I say go for using that one :)
Wondering if I'll ever be able to pass with long hair. I like the long hair look on guys and would like to have it as an option...
Longish hair:
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With my hair bundled up and out of the way:
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Long hair is a unisex hairstyle, so you're good. I'm keeping my hair too. ^^
If you're going to keep it, stay away from bangs that contour
your face. (something that'll make your face appear more soft or round)
PS: I like your top pic. :)
Quote from: pianoforte on May 30, 2014, 03:43:44 AM
Wondering if I'll ever be able to pass with long hair. I like the long hair look on guys and would like to have it as an option...
Longish hair:
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With my hair bundled up and out of the way:
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Long hair is always risky. Even cis guys get misgendered with it at times. I don't know if you are on T, but long hair and facial hair works well together. if you're not and you don't want to get misgendered, I would stay clear of long hair. The pictures are andro to me, but leaning towards the feminine side.
Quote from: Mr.X on May 30, 2014, 08:00:10 AM
Long hair is always risky. Even cis guys get misgendered with it at times.
You're right. My partner get misgendered a lot. He also has facial hair, lol. (isn't that something?)
Hey guys. I'm not exactly transgender (to be honest I have no idea what I am, i just know I don't want to be a woman). But I figured this forum applies to me also.
Sorry for the terrible photos, they were taken with an iPod and in a hurry. I have my hoodie because I still have long hair (going to cut it in December/january, after I finish school -cant wait-) and thought this way you could portray better how my face would look with short hair. You think I pass?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1282.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa539%2Fhosenstein%2Fhaircuts%2F814EC793-8854-491B-91FD-DD3A3FFA3380_zpsyu1kg5jo.jpg&hash=d6e0905a077719ed0b4dfc88ed63e46c1588122a) (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/hosenstein/media/haircuts/814EC793-8854-491B-91FD-DD3A3FFA3380_zpsyu1kg5jo.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1282.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa539%2Fhosenstein%2Fhaircuts%2F87457CC9-F274-4830-B2DE-8CCE56AADB1F_zpsw1ospg66.jpg&hash=ec940f877cfb8dce824198b55d6426c57f18c673) (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/hosenstein/media/haircuts/87457CC9-F274-4830-B2DE-8CCE56AADB1F_zpsw1ospg66.jpg.html)
By the way can any of you tell me what haircut would look well on me and help me pass? thanks
Edit: here are 3 photos, front, side, and 3/4 profile so my features can be seen better.. but beware my horrible face lol might make you blind
http://imgur.com/HZuaE39,1XjIsPP,hzjJtEu#0
Hi rider-mark. Welcome. You could totally pass. In that second photo you pass 100% to me. I'm no good on hair cuts so someone else will have to weigh in on that.
Welcome to Susan's Ridder. I would say on both pictures you pass :)
But, question with the haircut, would all really depend on what you would want to go for but I'll share some pictures of hairstyles that I personally think might suite you.
(https://rockstarjeans.in/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/q1.jpg)
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(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS-vjcyo8acFP32CBtuQ3Umynnz6_KlneZxf4aOtmaGDiOvuj_bgQ)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hair-magazines.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F04%2FShort-hairstyles-for-men.jpg&hash=50051a6218b8c074d2d38d2845809c7ebed8c299)
I have been around hairstylists since I was in diapers but hairstyles also has to be something that you want. But! Also remember, hair is hair, it grows back rather quickly if you think you cut it too short ;)
I hope that helped :)
@pianoforte
I wouldn't worry too much about your hair length actually :) Love the first pic, and I think you pass really well. The first pic reminds me a bit of Kurt Cobain actually :P
Thanks guys for the quick replies. And Dalex thanks for the pics. I really like the last one :)
Quote from: ridder-mark on May 31, 2014, 10:29:53 AM
Hey guys. I'm not exactly transgender (to be honest I have no idea what I am, i just know I don't want to be a woman). But I figured this forum applies to me also.
Sorry for the terrible photos, they were taken with an iPod and in a hurry. I have my hoodie because I still have long hair (going to cut it in December/january, after I finish school -cant wait-) and thought this way you could portray better how my face would look with short hair. You think I pass?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1282.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa539%2Fhosenstein%2Fhaircuts%2F814EC793-8854-491B-91FD-DD3A3FFA3380_zpsyu1kg5jo.jpg&hash=d6e0905a077719ed0b4dfc88ed63e46c1588122a) (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/hosenstein/media/haircuts/814EC793-8854-491B-91FD-DD3A3FFA3380_zpsyu1kg5jo.jpg.html)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1282.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa539%2Fhosenstein%2Fhaircuts%2F87457CC9-F274-4830-B2DE-8CCE56AADB1F_zpsw1ospg66.jpg&hash=ec940f877cfb8dce824198b55d6426c57f18c673) (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/hosenstein/media/haircuts/87457CC9-F274-4830-B2DE-8CCE56AADB1F_zpsw1ospg66.jpg.html)
By the way can any of you tell me what haircut would look well on me and help me pass? thanks
Edit: here are 3 photos, front, side, and 3/4 profile so my features can be seen better.. but beware my horrible face lol might make you blind
http://imgur.com/HZuaE39,1XjIsPP,hzjJtEu#0
definitely a pass
Curious what you folks think.
I pass about 70% of the time at work. If I darken my natural facial hair I pass 100%. I'll take a picture with my facial hair darkened probably tomorrow. It passes on the street just fine, I wandered around Edmonton and have around town as well without anyone noticing it's just darkened. Not sure how it'll show on photos though.
Clean & shaven:
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If I throw on some drag-style make-up though..
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My DP is also with drag-style make-up on. Tried to show mostly full to 3/4 body pictures though. I have very few full body pictures, lol.
My hips and shoulders are my big downfall. My shoulders are rounded in so they aren't anywhere as broad as they could/should be. My hips are still pretty big as well, although i've recently went down a size which is cool. I have a lot more work to do to bring them down though. If my shoulders were more broad it wouldn't be as big of a deal. :(
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I'm not sure in the avatar, but in the picture you posted you pass 100% to me, but as a young boy, maybe 12-13? or a little bit older
Wondering what you all think of my passability!
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I finally got a haircut! :D Everyone says I look like a boy, including my mom haha but I wanna see what you peeps think.
This is me before my haircut
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad257/jenerik-account/20140402_214939_zpsf7065f34.jpg (http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad257/jenerik-account/20140402_214939_zpsf7065f34.jpg)
And this is with my new haircut!:
With glasses: I know they're too feminine but I can't afford new ones right now.
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad257/jenerik-account/20140528_000225_zpsece4d086.jpg (http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad257/jenerik-account/20140528_000225_zpsece4d086.jpg)
Without glasses:
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad257/jenerik-account/20140528_162442_zps83c0826d.jpg (http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad257/jenerik-account/20140528_162442_zps83c0826d.jpg)
And I think I look the best in this one:
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad257/jenerik-account/20140528_162450_zps1396ebf3.jpg (http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad257/jenerik-account/20140528_162450_zps1396ebf3.jpg)
I actually attended the funeral of a close friend of mine the same day the last photo was taken. My friend's death is what pushed me to get my haircut after being afraid of what people will think of me. Made me realize that life is too short to worry about what other's think of me. I can't live in the closet for much longer and I don't want to. I'm finally ready to start transitioning and I hope to come out (again) to my mom soon.
Anyway, I'm rambling. Do I pass? At first I was worried I just looked like a butch lesbian, be honest everyone! I was actually passing the day of the funeral because I was in a black dress shirt and tie. I didn't think I would but I did so that was pretty great! I've ordered a binder so I guess I'll take a full body shot when I get it.
Thanks everyone in advance for the honest critique!
Silver Centurion: You definitely pass to me, without a doubt.
Wolfy: You pass as a young boy to me, around 14ish but the sunglasses in your profile pic make you hard to read.
StirfriedKraut: You pass in all pics but I think you pass extremely well in the first and 3rd pic. You look really good!
I'm jealous of all 3 of you guys hahaha, you're all awesome!
@Fries: That Haircut really changes the whole dynamic of your face, it makes you so much more masculine looking. To me you seem passable but, I do get a lesbian vibe from the glasses though. Bravo on the haircut though, was totally the right choice for you.
StirfriedKraut you pass to me totally. I'm not a fan of the beard but only because it looks too clean to be real xD if that makes any sense. But you did say drag style so XD Anyways you will seriously look fantastic with a beard all said. But yeah you don't look female at ALL to me.
Wolfy you pass to me. That pic looks wicked, cool costume/makeup. Not sure about your avatar XD but fun glasses xD. You do look really young though, maybe 14ish
Silver Centurion You also pass to me. Man what's up with everyone passing!! lol for some reason I think you pass better in the jersey pic though. Maybe it's the glasses? I'm not sure.
Fries: Man! What a great haircut dude, makes a big diff for sure. You look passable to me but for really young as well. I think you look really good in glasses actually, though a different frame would probably help a bit. But to me it doesn't hinder you passing much idk why. You look great!
Thanks Evan and Fries! I agree with you Evan the glasses seem to change my face quite a bit.
Fries you totally pass with your new haircut :D I'm glad you decided to push past the fear to be able to be who you wanna be and I am sorry for your loss as well.
This is me, pre-everything and I wear binder (you don't see in the pic but I'm flat).
To be onest, in Italy where I live I often pass but what do you think?
I tend to pass more wearing sunglasses than without...don't know why. That's why I like to take pics with sunglasses.
If you can help and support me I need it, thank you :)
Another pic of me is my avatar.
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(I'm half italian and half german. If that counts.)
Dang, you handsome gents are all making me jealous. ;D Now I really have to work up the courage to post soon.
Kiwi: You definitely pass to me in both the pic you posted and the one in your avatar. I've also noticed that I pass far more with aviators on. I'm not sure if it's a facial structure thing or the fact that sunglasses are a major confidence booster.
Fries: That cut looks really good on you, especially since I've always found it very, very hard to pass with short hair without resembling a butch. Congrats on making it work!
Silver Centurion: I think you definitely pass, but better in the second pic. I second Evan of Spades' suggestion about the glasses. Not that they aren't cool, but I've always found that the more angular the frames, the better. Anyway, I love your hair!
Kiwi: You definitely look like you pass and your shades are awesome! The fauxhawk is sweet btw.
Klaus: Thank you for that! I'm glad you like my hair. I've only had it that way for about two weeks now. My glasses are kinda a problem though. I need to work on that but I can't read without them and things get fuzzy at a distance. It's fixable though and I really appreciate all the input. I'll definitely look for more angular frames when I can replace them.
Everyone tells me I look like I should be in 5th grade. Except I graduate high school next year ;D
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Does my chest pass without a binder? I think the one side with the pocket passes better, is the other side too obvious that makes people take a second look?
It does. I don't see anything "booblike" over there. No worries.
You're good Jared. :)
Thank you guys for your feedback :)
@Jared: woah you definitely pass ;) I wish I have a flat chest like yours without binder
Thanks guys, I'm just paranoid then. I was never big before there but working out already helped a bit.
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yes?
no?
maybe so?
Quote from: ky on June 05, 2014, 07:08:30 AM
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yes?
no?
maybe so?
Ky, that's not the best picture IMHO. Maybe one with you not making that kind of expression would tell me more.
From this one - I would say androgynous.
Quote from: ky on June 05, 2014, 07:08:30 AM
yes?
no?
maybe so?
I'd say maybe so.
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Edit to add:
Based off the photos in your intro thread (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,166419.msg1442585.html#msg1442585), I'd agree with Kreuzfidel that in the top two photos you look more andro. In the bottom photo, I'd say no, though I get the feeling that you weren't trying to pass there since you said you're closeted at home. :)
I cut my hair and combed out my dreads. I'm quite sure a very short haircut would suit me, but my mum would probably cry, haha. She was on the verge of tears cutting my hair this short, because it's never been this short since I was a kid. Ah well, when I finally tell them I'm trans, I'll get it cut properly. Until then...thoughts? This is just my normal hair, it's not styled or anything.
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I think the longer hair looks fine right now. Sometimes going too short doesn't help with passing since it shows how small your skull is.
I find that going crew-cut doesn't help me passing. But keeping it shortish does for me (like to the point your hair starts to texure a bit but not cropped)
A bit shorter would look good for sure, but for now this looks quite okay as well.
Sad to see you got rid of your dreads... but then again, I had them too... and said goodbye to them as well. So I understand your descision.
Quote from: Erik Ezrin on June 06, 2014, 03:46:13 PM
I find that going crew-cut doesn't help me passing. But keeping it shortish does for me (like to the point your hair starts to texure a bit but not cropped)
A bit shorter would look good for sure, but for now this looks quite okay as well.
Sad to see you got rid of your dreads... but then again, I had them too... and said goodbye to them as well. So I understand your descision.
Well, I noticed whenever I tied my dreads back, I'd look a lot more masculine, so I think short-ish hair would suit me very well. But for now, I'll not stress my mum out over it, haha. Yeah, I had to comb them out because my scalp is in a bad way, so I figured I might as well shorten it too while I'm at it. In the future I'll have them again.
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How's that?
Jason- wow, big change! You look good with your hair like that. It must be weird to be without dreads.
KY- I guess I'd say you look andro although I'd never question it if you told me you were a young male/
Jared- you are fine and I am totally jealous.
Looking good everybody!
I'm pre-everything but blessed with a 32A chest and a defined jaw. I have a hard time passing without a hat for sure, but what about with it? Even a little? Any suggestions on how to lose the fat in my face?
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P.S I was feeling really cocky when I was taking the pictures so excuse the weird expressions.
Quote from: Onyx on June 07, 2014, 12:59:00 PM
I'm pre-everything but blessed with a 32A chest and a defined jaw. I have a hard time passing without a hat for sure, but what about with it? Even a little? Any suggestions on how to lose the fat in my face?
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P.S I was feeling really cocky when I was taking the pictures so excuse the weird expressions.
There's nothing you can do about losing fat in your face if you're not on T.
As for passing, I'd say you pass as a very young boy in these photos.
But...for the record and IMHO...I don't like it when people post photos with them making silly faces and asking if they pass - because it's not an accurate reflection of how well you pass as opposed to "straight-faced".
Quote from: Kreuzfidel on June 08, 2014, 04:49:46 AM
But...for the record and IMHO...I don't like it when people post photos with them making silly faces and asking if they pass - because it's not an accurate reflection of how well you pass as opposed to "straight-faced".
I know what you are saying here, and a lot of guys do this. You will get a more accurate "reading" if you do it straight faced. With a funny face, people can only tell you if you are passing in that specific moment.
I get the inclination to do this, though...people like to present their best angles/looks.
Sorry. I do have a hard time keeping a straight face in photos but I'll remember to do that next time. Thanks for the input anyway.
By the way, I am pretty young. I s' pose that does make a difference.
Hey guys, I've been getting misgendered quite a bit recently so I'd appreciate any opinions? Cheers :)
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Onyx: I think you look more masculine in the third picture... Maybe try not to smile or laugh too much (I KNOW WTF?!?!?), so that your cheek are less prominent, and about the hat I really don't know... you should put a picture without the hat, maybe change hair style?!?!
Quote from: lucas on June 08, 2014, 05:00:23 PM
Hey guys, I've been getting misgendered quite a bit recently so I'd appreciate any opinions? Cheers :)
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I think that your give away is the chin... But you look like a cute guy ;)
I can see you passing as a young boy, Lucas, but a few things do stick out to me in terms of passing. As someone mentioned, your chin is kind of small (but that's not your fault and it will change later). You also seem a bit...tentative, and hesitant in the photo as well (just based on your facial expression) which I know, even for me at 2 years, sometimes causes people to think I am female.
I know I personally tend to see the ear gauges (is that what they're called?) as more feminine, and I'd be more inclined to gender someone female if I was "on the fence" and then saw them. That said, there's a lot of guys that do wear them and after spending time on T, pass as male with them in. It's really up to you, it is understandable if you don't want to compromise your personal style solely to pass as male. As long as you're comfortable and happy!
Quote from: Emily29 on June 08, 2014, 05:08:24 PM
I think that your give away is the chin... But you look like a cute guy ;)
Other than your chin (mine is small, too) - I would say that it's probably your eyebrows. Do you pluck at all? I also have "shapely" eyebrows that I think used to get me misgendered pre-T. It's not exactly something you can help - but I would also say your hairstyle is a bit too short on the sides. Sometimes going too short can accentuate the "feminine" skull shape (it really is a thing). Maybe slightly longer hair on the sides would help.
Thanks for the opinions, it's useful to have an idea of what might be giving me away. I've never done anything to my eyebrows in my life, they're naturally like that :/ Would you believe me if I told you I'm 20?
Quote from: Kreuzfidel on June 08, 2014, 04:49:46 AM
There's nothing you can do about losing fat in your face if you're not on T.
As for passing, I'd say you pass as a very young boy in these photos.
But...for the record and IMHO...I don't like it when people post photos with them making silly faces and asking if they pass - because it's not an accurate reflection of how well you pass as opposed to "straight-faced".
Onyx,
One thing I see is the sideburns.....could just be how the hair is laying but in the side view they appear to taper to a bit of a point. I was thinking that squaring them off might help a bit since that's the "typical" male way even for young young guys or boys.
My fiance did a make-up test a few days ago. It kind of helped show off the scruff I already had.
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Daydreamer, oh wow! Handsome is really all I can say. A most definite pass.
I'm digging the hair!
Quote from: Dalex on June 09, 2014, 07:56:02 PM
Daydreamer, oh wow! Handsome is really all I can say. A most definite pass.
I'm digging the hair!
Thanks!
Alright so...I got a hair cut the other day and today I looked at myself (I usually avoid mirrors). I sorta thought the cut wasn't right for me. Too short, wrong shape, made my face look rounder. On top of that, I recently had to trim my facial hair so now it's very short and not so awesome looking. So, I'm prettysureim seen as male but haven't run into enough people between then and now to know.
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This is just a head on mugshot with my everyday kind of appearance. I'm also just showing what my face looks like mostly relaxed.
Insert various groans here. Darn photo site didn't work.
Quote from: Daydreamer on June 09, 2014, 07:14:39 PM
My fiance did a make-up test a few days ago. It kind of helped show off the scruff I already had.
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You definitely pass in my eyes. I love your piercing.
Quote from: Marcel on June 11, 2014, 07:58:51 PM
You definitely pass in my eyes. I love your piercing.
Thanks. :)
Daydreamer, looking good! And definitely passing indeed. That beard suits you, you should get one like that once you get on T! :)
And Nygeel, I see what you mean by the haircut, and it might not have been the best, but anyone who thinks you are a female needs to have their eyes checked. And ears too, probably.
Quote from: Daydreamer on June 09, 2014, 07:14:39 PM
My fiance did a make-up test a few days ago. It kind of helped show off the scruff I already had.
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Your hair looks *Strong Bad Teen Girl Squad voice* sooooooo good. You are a very attractive dude.
Nygeel, I am pretty sure no haircut could ever make you look female.
Quote from: ChrisRokk on June 12, 2014, 08:37:29 AM
Your hair looks *Strong Bad Teen Girl Squad voice* sooooooo good. You are a very attractive dude.
Oh gosh, Homestar Runnner. That brings back so many memories. Thanks :D
Quote from: Erik Ezrin on June 12, 2014, 05:39:52 AM
Daydreamer, looking good! And definitely passing indeed. That beard suits you, you should get one like that once you get on T! :)
I hope I end up getting a kickass beard when I get on the T train (crosses fingers) Thanks!
Quote from: Nygeel on June 10, 2014, 09:42:24 PM
Alright so...I got a hair cut the other day and today I looked at myself (I usually avoid mirrors). I sorta thought the cut wasn't right for me. Too short, wrong shape, made my face look rounder. On top of that, I recently had to trim my facial hair so now it's very short and not so awesome looking. So, I'm prettysureim seen as male but haven't run into enough people between then and now to know.
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This is just a head on mugshot with my everyday kind of appearance. I'm also just showing what my face looks like mostly relaxed.
Insert various groans here. Darn photo site didn't work.
You look male, Nygeel. I think if anyone misgendered you, it would be because they weren't looking closely enough and went by your height alone (I remember you saying you're a shorter guy). In terms of the haircut, I did like some of your longer ones better on you, but this one still looks good and shouldn't get you misgendered.
Quote from: Nygeel on June 10, 2014, 09:42:24 PM
Alright so...I got a hair cut the other day and today I looked at myself (I usually avoid mirrors). I sorta thought the cut wasn't right for me. Too short, wrong shape, made my face look rounder. On top of that, I recently had to trim my facial hair so now it's very short and not so awesome looking. So, I'm prettysureim seen as male but haven't run into enough people between then and now to know.
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This is just a head on mugshot with my everyday kind of appearance. I'm also just showing what my face looks like mostly relaxed.
Insert various groans here. Darn photo site didn't work.
100% pass for me.
I guess it's just dysphoria talking...and that's almost never rational.
Hey guys it's Jordan I'm fairly new here and just recently came out.. so out of curiosity I've been wondering if I pass. Oh, and by the way I'm still pre-T and while we are at it you are more than welcome to criticize as much as your heart desires.
http://s1144.photobucket.com/user/thejordster17/media/IMG_0560_zpsf63a84aa.jpg.html
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Quote from: thejordster17 on June 13, 2014, 01:34:22 AM
Hey guys it's Jordan I'm fairly new here and just recently came out.. so out of curiosity I've been wondering if I pass. Oh, and by the way I'm still pre-T and while we are at it you are more than welcome to criticize as much as your heart desires.
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I definitely see a guy in those pictures, wouldn't have guessed you were female. I have a feeling T will do wonders for you.
Quote from: Marcel on June 13, 2014, 04:46:03 AM
I definitely see a guy in those pictures, wouldn't have guessed you were female. I have a feeling T will do wonders for you.
Think you Marcel, I appreciate the feedback. I've been meaning to setup the apppoint with a local therapist of my choice but lately I've gotten distracted with school, work, and such. So hopefully over the summer I'll be able to spare some time.
Quote from: thejordster17 on June 13, 2014, 07:49:22 AM
Think you Marcel, I appreciate the feedback. I've been meaning to setup the apppoint with a local therapist of my choice but lately I've gotten distracted with school, work, and such. So hopefully over the summer I'll be able to spare some time.
Me too actually. In fact, will be coming out to my parents next week and then start looking for a therapist to get the letter.
Quote from: Marcel on June 13, 2014, 08:06:37 AM
Me too actually. In fact, will be coming out to my parents next week and then start looking for a therapist to get the letter.
That's good to hear hopefully all will go well in the future and good luck on coming out your parents. I know when I came out to my mom not once but twice I was scared out of my mind. Fortunately for me all turned out well in the end.
Woops I thought I replied to this but thanks a TON everyone! :D You all seriously boosted my confidence an insane amount. Got me feeling like a total boss. My binder came in the mail super fast but I haven't got the guts to wear it in public yet.
Although, after reading all your wonderful comments again I've got this huge urge to bite the bullet and try it out on my next day off.
Thanks again everyone!
I don't always pass that well I think and sometimes when being asked for my name and I state it, I get weird looks. But, there are times when store clerks and such do use male pronounces. But, with having to have gotten a new piercing, I wanted to ask you all what you think?
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Dalex, I like the piercing. I can def see why you'd get gendered male. You look more andro in the photo, but more on the male side IMO.
Still working on it but I don't think I pass yet.
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Hey Dalex - I think you pass as a younger teenage punk guy. A cute one, too. ;D
What do you guys think about me? I am currently pre everything.
The first photo is me right now, the second is me a few moths ago. Do you think I look more masculine with the longer hair, or the shorter hair? I was pegged for a lesbian more than a dude with the super short cut, now I look more like a stoner/crustie high school guy. But tell me your honest opinions on how I might pass a little better.
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Today at the grocery store, a little boy, maybe 8 or 9, asked his mom if I was a boy or a girl. (I was flattered) She told him "girl". ( :embarrassed: ) I think it was the knee high socks I was wearing. Oh well, I'm a freak, cant get around that one.
I wonder how much body mods / piercings (and their locations, the amount of them) effect people's gendering. I guess it is really just subjective. There's plenty of modified males and females out there. I'm eccentric and weird no matter what gender I am, so oh well I guess.
I really like your short hair, you look hot ;) don't see how you got pegged tbh totes a pass.
Thanks Nimrata and Elio :)
I have to agree with Skylar :) You look really good with short hair, and I don't see how anyone would be pegged more lesbian. Longer hair, for me, looks as you said more stoner/crustie look. But, for me, you with the shorter hair actually just reminds me of an old school punk rocker :)
so I will be one month on T in 2 more days, so just want to see what you guys think passing wise so far
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Quote from: Ryan55 on June 17, 2014, 11:59:59 AM
so I will be one month on T in 2 more days, so just want to see what you guys think passing wise so far
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Geez, you already look masculine!! Testosterone will do magic to you for sure! :)
Ryan55, you look like a dude 100%. Pass!
Quote from: Ryan55 on June 17, 2014, 11:59:59 AM
so I will be one month on T in 2 more days, so just want to see what you guys think passing wise so far
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You definitely pass and you only had testosterone for 1 month? I'm jealous!
yeah only 1 month lol my voice hasn't gotten deeper yet though, so voice gives me away, thanks for the thoughts guys!
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I'm pre-everything and still in my teens, so :embarrassed:
I think you pass, Leo. And given that you're in your teens you look about the right age, if not a little bit younger.
Really? I'm glad. Thanks Birkin :)
I probably don't pass but I could use some pointers.
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I can see you passing as a young kid marcel, i would change the glasses to a more squareish style or contacts (i find i pass better with contacts then glasses), your hair isnt that bad, just looks like a boys longer hairstyle, but if you want to cut it, go for it if it will make you happy and think you will pass more
I agree. Marcel, you're at least older looking than me (but that's an easy feat). I definitely think you need more a more square-ish glasses. See, FtMs have naturally round faces, and square glasses would counteract it by making our faces look more angular and masculine. For a face shape like yours (slim and oblong), I would recommend rectangular glasses though.
Hm, Marcel, before I saw your username I thought you were MTF and posting in the wrong section lol. That happens to me with a few people now and again, and I think it's a sign you could pass with a few changes to your presentation (because I saw you as someone trying to present female). I agree with the comment about the glasses, I'd go for square men's frames if you are able to get new ones right now.
I'm borderline about your hair. It could pass as long guy's hair but I'm not sure what's keeping me from seeing that in the current picture. Is it naturally curly like that?
You've got your eyebrows and your mouth working for you, to me those both look masculine.
Quote from: Marcel on June 18, 2014, 04:59:47 PM
I probably don't pass but I could use some pointers.
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I'm with Birkin on his assessment, I'd go for frameless glasses as the best option though.
It pains me to say this but...I just got these new glasses two months ago so it's kinda too late to change them now. >.<
Quote from: Marcel on June 18, 2014, 08:08:43 PM
It pains me to say this but...I just got these new glasses two months ago so it's kinda too late to change them now. >.<
They don't look bad on you hon, we're just making suggestions for future options. Like Birkin pointed out, you do have nice eyebrows not all tweezed to thin arched girly threads, so they look good on your face, and frankly there is nothing about you that screeches female, so you could morph any way you wish at this point.
Ahh, too bad! They are very nice glasses though. And if you like them then you should keep them.
Quote from: birkin on June 18, 2014, 08:17:04 PM
Ahh, too bad! They are very nice glasses though. And if you like them then you should keep them.
I'll see when I start T, I hope it'll do wonders for me. It's really in my near future.
It changes a lot for most people. You look more masculine than I did before T and it changed a lot for me.
Quote from: Ryan55 on June 17, 2014, 11:59:59 AM
so I will be one month on T in 2 more days, so just want to see what you guys think passing wise so far
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Hope you don't mind a girl's opinion. But your a definite pass all the way. Nice biceps by the way.
Allie :icon_flower:
Quote from: Ryan55 on June 17, 2014, 11:59:59 AM
so I will be one month on T in 2 more days, so just want to see what you guys think passing wise so far
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Pass! OMG, nice show, Ryan. Female fail all the way. BTW, I'm a huge Yankees fan...
Bandors, gotta agree whats said about the glasses, but dont worry, you got nice looking chin going on. Glasses can be replaced later. :)
Quote from: leon on June 19, 2014, 03:27:29 PM
Bandors, gotta agree whats said about the glasses, but dont worry, you got nice looking chin going on. Glasses can be replaced later. :)
Thanks, I seem to have a large chin and have to make my mouth like that to make it less fat O_O
Quote from: Ryan55 on June 17, 2014, 11:59:59 AM
so I will be one month on T in 2 more days, so just want to see what you guys think passing wise so far
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I think my air conditioner just went out. It got real hot in here all the sudden, sigh! ^-^
thanks lol means a lot to me to know I'm passing, i'm pretty excited about the muscle I have been gaining, glad your a yankee fan Jill, i'm from new england, so I deal with a lot of red sox fans lol
your arm looks quite sexy
Quote from: Ryan55 on June 17, 2014, 11:59:59 AM
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Nice guns Ryan you look all male to me!
Yea or nay?
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taken about 2 weeks ago, 4 days before I started T. I'm not much for selfies, so I don't have too many pictures of myself full body, but I decided to start one of those "picture a day" projects to help me a) motivate myself to lose weight and b) keep track of my transformation on T and as I get healthier.
I'd say yes devention, but as a young teen. I have to say though, you have a very male body shape especially for being so early on T. I'm a bigger guy too and it took me a while before I lost my big hips and bum.
Yes, fortunately, I was blessed with narrow hips and broad shoulders. Even when I had long hair, I passed from behind really well, which is pretty awesome.
devention - I think you pass for sure. if I saw you out in public I would assume you were a 15 or so year old guy. I have a feeling T is going to do wonders for you since you already have the body type. I also have broad shoulders, but wider hips unfortunately
Thanks, guys!
Thought I'd update my mug shot. Got quite a few comments from family and friends saying my face shape and so on has changed a lot. I figure I'd let you guys be the judge of that. (Sorry not the smiley type in photos lol)
Also wanted to ask since I'm looking for new frames for glasses, what style you think would best suit me?
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Hex, dude, you look like a guy. I don't know what your bod looks like but based on face alone I would say you are a pretty guy. Your face shape is looking pretty masculine, your nose and lips too....you have those long eyelashes (or it looks like it in this pic) but so do a lot of gorgeous cis guys
Now please be perfectly honest with me guys how do I look? Full body pic. :icon_weirdface:
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You guys both look like you'd pass, no problem.
Hex, the general rule is that square frames give the impression of a squarer face. I'd go with square or the ones that are wired, not framed.
Thanks Elio and Dev! Elio, You have a great male shape going on all over. Pass 100% in my book.
Hex, DEFINITELY see a maximization of your face. Go you!
Elio it is hard to tell anything about your body because of the oversize shirt you are wearing. I zoomed in on your face and it looks quite masculine to me (if that is of any help, so a pass there)
Quote from: Hex on June 22, 2014, 09:32:25 PM
Thought I'd update my mug shot. Got quite a few comments from family and friends saying my face shape and so on has changed a lot. I figure I'd let you guys be the judge of that. (Sorry not the smiley type in photos lol)
Also wanted to ask since I'm looking for new frames for glasses, what style you think would best suit me?
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Hope you don't mind a girl's opinion: Your all guy Hex! The shape of your face is very masculine, very handsome!
Ally :icon_flower:
Thank you Brett and Allyda! So glad changes are finally happening enough for others to take notice! :P
Hex, looking great :) Seeing guys out there after T takes affect makes me look even more forward to when I start :) Now! Off to show a few pictures of glasses frames I think might suit you x3
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ElioAyla, I think you know (if you remember) I think you pass well facial feature wise and the only thing I can really see with the full body picture is that your jeans are too big, and your shirt as well :P
It's tricky with jeans since you don't want them too tight as well, but, too big jeans gives off the illusion of big thighs and wider hips, even for cis guys. But, I think you could totally rock jeans a size smaller, bootcut jeans as they are called and I would also go for a shirt a size smaller. Or at least hem the bottom of the shirt a bit since long shirts and over sized jeans can also give off the illusion of short legs, or if they are already short, it underlines them even more.
Also... I'm no fashion guru xD Don't take everything I say too seriously, I am only giving advice from personal taste. Short leg thing comes from being a shorty myself xD
I hope I didn't sound rude or anything like that xD
I know I suck at taking photos.. But is there a chance I might pass.
I can't tell myself anymore, so if I get like ''eh.. are you serious?!" I'm not offended at all.
I also know I look young, and my eyebrows are also growing out fully soon.
(//)
Quote from: lucas on June 09, 2014, 05:04:58 PM
Thanks for the opinions, it's useful to have an idea of what might be giving me away. I've never done anything to my eyebrows in my life, they're naturally like that :/ Would you believe me if I told you I'm 20?
Like others I think the thing that might not let you pass is your chin being pretty small. But I think that maybe changing your hair slightly might help proportion things out a bit. Your hair looks a little "tall" in that pic if that makes sense, and sort of emphasises the smaller size of your chin. Maybe keeping it shorter at the top/closer cut could help a bit?
Thanks Dalex! I'm likin that style for sure! *Goes hunting for some of them*
Hex, i meant you face was MASCULINIZING. Stupid auto correct.
Here I am in all my glory.
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Quote from: h3llsb3lls on June 26, 2014, 07:00:09 PM
Here I am in all my glory.
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You look like a young boy, nothing really screams female to me.
Quote from: Blue Senpai on June 26, 2014, 07:05:26 PM
You look like a young boy, nothing really screams female to me.
Thanks! I'm 24 so hopefully starting T will help me look a little less girly :D
Quote from: h3llsb3lls on June 26, 2014, 07:10:08 PM
Thanks! I'm 24 so hopefully starting T will help me look a little less girly :D
Older than me? I never would've guessed because you look really young.
I noticed that from 2011 and now, my face has changed even though I didn't even start injecting...?
2011:(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMuUW9gf.jpg&hash=82451ac3eb057aae232797065cd4c7bcb0982429)
now:(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgexFtNK.jpg&hash=d0a0384dfcd6c902956b21e95de64c9cf386cf03)
I need a haircut desperately.
Hello! I am pre t and am early in transition. I have been called a guy every now and then, and I wondering if you all think I pass? By the way, you all look great!!! ;D
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I think you pass. Only real tell is your chin.
Bearr: I think you are passing already and T will do wonders for you, but you can pass already ;)
Quote from: Bearr on June 27, 2014, 05:28:06 PM
Hello! I am pre t and am early in transition. I have been called a guy every now and then, and I wondering if you all think I pass? By the way, you all look great!!! ;D
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I think you look like around a 17-19 year old male so, you pass. Of course T should help you refine your look.
Ally :icon_flower:
Quote from: Bearr on June 27, 2014, 05:28:06 PM
Hello! I am pre t and am early in transition. I have been called a guy every now and then, and I wondering if you all think I pass? By the way, you all look great!!! ;D
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You certainly pass but T will definitely do wonders for you. ;D
thanks you all. That means a lot :)
Quote from: Bearr on June 27, 2014, 05:28:06 PM
Hello! I am pre t and am early in transition. I have been called a guy every now and then, and I wondering if you all think I pass? By the way, you all look great!!! ;D
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yes
Over 9 months on T now. Passing? Please don't quote
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Yeah, you pass. Facial hair would make it better though.
I've got quite a bit on my chin and mustache, it's just mainly blond still.
Lookin good and passing to me as a younger looking guy G. And if you feel daring enough you could try mascara to temp color in the facial hair? Or beard dye. I tried to dye mine and it didn't turn out too bad and made it at least look like I had a 5 o' clock shadow lol
Look good G. For sure pass. I can see the shadowing on your beard :)
Thanks all for the comments.
@Hex I actually did do that with mascara lol. It turned out pretty good. I might upload a pic of when I did that.
@Bearr Yay, it's visible! lol :)
Bearr, looking good. I would say a pass :) Actually had to reread the pre T part xD Was about to ask how long you had been on T :)
Blue Senpai, if you are looking for haircut ideas, just let meh know, and I can see if I can find one that suits you that you might like :)
Though, I wanted to ask you all a question yet again, I do hope I am not beginning to annoy any of you.
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This is the most recent picture of me, so I thought I would use this one again. I wanted to ask what glasses frames any of you think might suite me?
And, I have also been wanting to color my hair perhaps a bit darker and I wanted to ask if I should stay original (as in blond xD) or go back to the brown? (How it was actually when I first joined Susan's)
I apologize for the later one on the brightness level, it's the only one I know has been taken off me from the side.
Hey guys so this is probably the WORST pic of me for passing. That shirt is just not good lol. It's retired now. I don't really have any other pics right now though. K so 2 questions. 1st - I have two small gold loop earrings right now. I like them. I like the look of guys with earrings. Do you think they'd hinder my passing though? 2nd - I have this problem with my family. They don't accept me as a man and therefore I should use women's washrooms. I go out with them often and there are times when I just absolutely have to use the washroom. They would probably go nuts if they saw me in the men's room (I can't even imagine if they caught me using a urinal). But I also can't help but wonder if I pass too well to use the lady's room now (especially as I'm going to the beach today in swim trunks and a tee). What do you guys think? :/ When strangers just see me, guys are more talkative to me and will call me "buddy". I've had store clerks call me "he" even after hearing my voice. I don't want to be attacked for using a washroom ><
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Evan, if I saw you in the women's restroom, I'd think you misplaced yourself. You definitely pass to me, bad shirt and all.
If you're in the ocean, it might be gross, but if your family freaks out on you using the men's room? 'Go' in the water. No one will notice. And depending on where the restrooms are, they might not be able to see you. I've only ever been to beaches in Myrtle Beach, but the bathrooms are always way up by the car parks, in my experience.
Good luck and have fun!
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Hey, guys, what do you think? I am not on T. How do you guys think I would do on it?
I'm also curious to know how old I look to you guys.
Please don't quote the picture.
Thanks!
Quote from: Dalex on June 28, 2014, 08:52:12 PM
Bearr, looking good. I would say a pass :) Actually had to reread the pre T part xD Was about to ask how long you had been on T :)
Blue Senpai, if you are looking for haircut ideas, just let meh know, and I can see if I can find one that suits you that you might like
Though, I wanted to ask you all a question yet again, I do hope I am not beginning to annoy any of you.
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This is the most recent picture of me, so I thought I would use this one again. I wanted to ask what glasses frames any of you think might suite me?
And, I have also been wanting to color my hair perhaps a bit darker and I wanted to ask if I should stay original (as in blond xD) or go back to the brown? (How it was actually when I first joined Susan's)
I apologize for the later one on the brightness level, it's the only one I know has been taken off me from the side.
Thanks! :) I like your hair blond by the way!
Brett I say you pass very well for not being on T.
I also think you look around mid to late 30's
Yeah Brett, you pass, and quite well for pre-T!
You remind me of Justin Louis:
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Quote from: Evan of Spades on July 01, 2014, 09:52:39 AM
Hey guys so this is probably the WORST pic of me for passing. That shirt is just not good lol. It's retired now. I don't really have any other pics right now though. K so 2 questions. 1st - I have two small gold loop earrings right now. I like them. I like the look of guys with earrings. Do you think they'd hinder my passing though? 2nd - I have this problem with my family. They don't accept me as a man and therefore I should use women's washrooms. I go out with them often and there are times when I just absolutely have to use the washroom. They would probably go nuts if they saw me in the men's room (I can't even imagine if they caught me using a urinal). But I also can't help but wonder if I pass too well to use the lady's room now (especially as I'm going to the beach today in swim trunks and a tee). What do you guys think? :/ When strangers just see me, guys are more talkative to me and will call me "buddy". I've had store clerks call me "he" even after hearing my voice. I don't want to be attacked for using a washroom ><
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I'd say you look young...but definitely male. And guys calling you "buddy" is a very good sign. They don't say that to girls.
brett you totally pass. you are pre-t? I am jealous. I am not a good guesser of age but you look adult to me
evan- you pass, but not so much that I'd weird out if you were in the woman's room. Not that I would, but you know what I mean.
Quote from: Brett on July 01, 2014, 05:19:53 PM
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Hey, guys, what do you think? I am not on T. How do you guys think I would do on it?
I'm also curious to know how old I look to you guys.
Please don't quote the picture.
Thanks!
Holy smokes, Brett! Definitely a pass in my book, no hesitation whatsoever there. :) You look about early 30s or late 20s to me.
Evan - you pass to me. I used the women's for several years while passing and only had trouble about 3 times. The only physical and direct one was after I'd already upset the landlord of the pub and someone had complained. Most people assume others know what bathroom to be in and say nothing.
Hey, guys, thanks so much for the responses. :) I am 44 years old, by the way.
Quote from: Brett on July 02, 2014, 04:16:29 PM
Hey, guys, thanks so much for the responses. :) I am 44 years old, by the way.
Handsome devil. :)
--Jay
Quote from: Brett on July 02, 2014, 04:16:29 PM
Hey, guys, thanks so much for the responses. :) I am 44 years old, by the way.
Wow, really? Definitely wouldn't have guessed forties. I'd have said mid thirties. You look good!
Thanks Jay and devention.
All you guys have made my day today. Glad I finally got up the guts to post!
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Making wonky face at the camera because it's windy outside and I'm sitting on my job's balcony taking shameless selfies.
Definitely pass, Ephemeral.
Quote from: Brett on July 05, 2014, 08:24:35 AM
Definitely pass, Ephemeral.
Could you explain why?
Quote from: Ephemeral on July 05, 2014, 05:00:52 AM
Making wonky face at the camera because it's windy outside and I'm sitting on my job's balcony taking shameless selfies.
You look male to me. The shape of your face, great haircut, nice thick eyebrows, and what I can see of your build in the photo all look male.
Quote from: JayDawg on July 05, 2014, 09:23:18 AM
You look male to me. The shape of your face, great haircut, nice thick eyebrows, and what I can see of your build in the photo all look male.
Cool, thanks.
I agree with jay, its hard to even picture you being born with female anatomy , I see just a regular dude
Ephemeral - you pass very well. I think Jay explained it well. Great name by the way
Well, that's what I get for using the small txt on my phone. Sorry guys!
Quote from: Ryan55 on July 05, 2014, 11:00:25 AM
I agree with jay, its hard to even picture you being born with female anatomy , I see just a regular dude
Yeah, my face was never quite typically female in its shape so that definitely helped a lot. I have pictures of myself before T so you can see the difference:
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Taken about a year ago. A problem with me and photos is that I have a tendency to show off my jawline that always gives the impression of a very masculine face since my jawline is very pronounced and a strong jawline is typically associated with a masculine face.
Probably a more honest picture but obviously not as fun:
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And thanks christopher!
Quote from: Ephemeral on July 05, 2014, 08:50:39 AM
Could you explain why?
Jawline, eyebrows, and somehow even your eyes (even though eyes are gender neutral, yours like male to me).
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Hi everyone..
Do i pass? :)
long, dude, total pass to me. I see all male.
Without question, long.
Evan, I can see how you would have a hard time in the women's room. Also, with your body, I bet your body fat/body shape changes will come quickly and you will be pleased (when you get on T). It seems it is easier for a thinner guy.
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Making wonky face at the camera because it's windy outside and I'm sitting on my job's balcony taking shameless selfies.
God yes cutie ;)
.....I am so shameless.....
Quote from: Bookworm on July 06, 2014, 01:10:11 PM
God yes cutie ;)
.....I am so shameless.....
My girlfriend was very happy to hear that.
Quote from: Ephemeral on July 06, 2014, 01:18:16 PM
My girlfriend was very happy to hear that.
Well tell her she is definitely lucky :)
Quote from: Bookworm on July 06, 2014, 02:55:58 PM
Well tell her she is definitely lucky :)
She knows lol.
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Making wonky face at the camera because it's windy outside and I'm sitting on my job's balcony taking shameless selfies.
I'd say androgynous but the facial features kinda lean toward female for me.
Wearing a binder. Does this swim outfit look at all right?
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It looks good Mac! I wouldn't worry about it, go and enjoy swimming. :)
Quote from: MacG on July 07, 2014, 04:51:39 PM
Wearing a binder. Does this swim outfit look at all right?
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Go for it Mac, that would be my plan if and when I go swimming again, although I do have some 1960's era Hawaiian swim trunks with a light and dark blue floral design. I'd bind too as I don't look the least bit passable as a female and I'm not into the wet T shirt thing.
Quote from: Shantel on July 07, 2014, 08:25:06 PM
Go for it Mac, that would be my plan if and when I go swimming again, although I do have some 1960's era Hawaiian swim trunks with a light and dark blue floral design. I'd bind too as I don't look the least bit passable as a female and I'm not into the wet T shirt thing.
Too bad! ;) lol
Hey, Mac. You look more than fine. You look great!
mac you look totally fine. Have fun.
Thanks, guys.
ok so first tanktop of the summer being a guy, what do you guys think, it usually sucks wearing tank tops and tryin to flatten the chest, so I kept thinking my chest was showing
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Quote from: Ryan55 on July 08, 2014, 10:25:26 AM
ok so first tanktop of the summer being a guy, what do you guys think, it usually sucks wearing tank tops and tryin to flatten the chest, so I kept thinking my chest was showing
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Wow, yes definitely!
Quote from: Ryan55 on July 08, 2014, 10:25:26 AM
ok so first tanktop of the summer being a guy, what do you guys think, it usually sucks wearing tank tops and tryin to flatten the chest, so I kept thinking my chest was showing
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Your chest is not showing at all, from what I can see. Very much so a manly pass. Keep at it, Ryan.
thanks guys, I went to class like this today and no one said anything, so might just be me over criticizing myself lol
You look great, Ryan and wearing black always helps. You would need to give us a side pic for us to really be able to say, though.
Looks perfect, Ryan!
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Ok I haven't read everything in this thread, but I'd like to know if I pass...I'm pre-everything, even pre-binder because I just ordered one and it hasn't arrived yet. Honest and detailed opinions please, I'm really curious to know if I could pass :)
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Ok I haven't read everything in this thread, but I'd like to know if I pass...I'm pre-everything, even pre-binder because I just ordered one and it hasn't arrived yet. Honest and detailed opinions please, I'm really curious to know if I could pass :)
Maybe though I am inclined to think butch girl over young guy.
Quote from: Ryan55 on July 08, 2014, 03:00:09 PM
thanks guys, I went to class like this today and no one said anything, so might just be me over criticizing myself lol
Wow - if I was 30 years younger I would definitely bat my eyes at you Lovey!
Carol
katnip, I wouldn't say you pass in that picture based on your expression and stuff. i would just assume queer, female born, and that's it. Maybe practice your facial expressions in the mirror, see what makes you look the most male? I feel like it makes a difference with me. The way I carry myself and the look on my face effects how I'm perceived.
ryan- it always amazes me how well you pass
katnip- I know when I really smile I don't pass. I think you have the same issue. It's a nice smile but it gives you away. Are you planning to take T eventually?
ok, I'm hating it being summer and feeling like I don't pass at all
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alright, I'm not really hating that it's summer but it's spiking up the dysphoria
Dang server rollback...
Katnip: I'd honestly say no. Unfortunately, your face looks pretty heart-shaped in that picture (wide jaw to narrow chin), which is typically a "female" characteristic. Your hairline, as well, seems a bit feminine. And your expression doesn't help with the "manliness". I'd take a picture with a slack face next time and see where to go from there.
The first two problems, unfortunately, you can't do much about without hormones. And I'm sure you don't want to go around glowering at people all the time. I'm sorry I don't have much advice in way of passing tips.
Good luck with the binder, though! I'm sure it'll help a lot.
Christopher: I definitely see male there.
Katnip- I think my response got eaten in the great server meltdown. I think you should smile as you naturally would. You have a nice smile! I do think you'd need a more masculine face to pull off the swooped up bangs and cocked back cap. I'd say try some other hair styles. And don't worry about not smiling :)
Maleah- I think I've said this before... You could be the twin to my 16 year old brother (a good looking guy!). I imagine you're older than that, but T should assist with making you look more adult.
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alright, I'm not really hating that it's summer but it's spiking up the dysphoria
I definitely see male too christopher. You look great and you look like a really nice guy.
Quote from: Maleth on July 15, 2014, 04:21:05 AM
Oh! So that's what it was.. I was wondering why I couldn't connect to Susan's yesterday. Seems like my post got eaten up too. Oh well. Anyways, I posted a few pictures on Sunday but I wanted to also post one in a different angle with me smiling since it seems like that can make or break some guys' pass-ability (the stereotype is that men tend to be more unemotional so I can see where that stems from). I'm a person that either smiles a lot or looks dead serious, just depends what situation I'm in... the latter being more common.
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[Pre-T]
You definitely pass as male, no question. You look like 14-15.
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2 years on T
Another bunch of pictures but I am mostly interested in what you guys think of my body shape:
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Sorry for the last one being a little blurry.
Quote from: deejayk on July 16, 2014, 09:18:08 AM
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2 years on T
You pass on this picture though there are still traces that make you look female. It's to do with your eyes and cheeks. If you had long hair and a feminine cut I would probably think of you as female. Also, do your pick your brows? I think that could also lead to such a perception.
@Ephemeral I think your shape is actually pretty good. There is a slight dip in your waste giving that "dreaded hour glass figure" but it's only slight which is helpful. I am guessing under normal shirts and clothing it's hardly noticeable. Not sure if you are on T or not? Also not sure if you are binding but your chest looking pretty flat as well !
As for me I was wondering if T has made me look closer to my age at all. Before I could pass for like 16 or so. I think I have made some progress at least (Hopefully).
Heres me one week T
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Heres me 10.5 months T
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Any scrutiny is welcome :)
Quote from: thatboyfresh on July 16, 2014, 12:05:20 PM
@Ephemeral I think your shape is actually pretty good. There is a slight dip in your waste giving that "dreaded hour glass figure" but it's only slight which is helpful. I am guessing under normal shirts and clothing it's hardly noticeable. Not sure if you are on T or not? Also not sure if you are binding but your chest looking pretty flat as well !
As for me I was wondering if T has made me look closer to my age at all. Before I could pass for like 16 or so. I think I have made some progress at least (Hopefully).
Heres me one week T
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F29nzcw4.jpg&hash=c8ede4c0e5d0807011dc805a6b111c3b1c7acd4e)
Heres me 10.5 months T
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2Frm7nzb.jpg&hash=00b2232709cb437b1a2f4fd8533c865892d73fa6)
Any scrutiny is welcome :)
What's your age? You look like in your early to mid 20s in the latter picture. And yes, I am binding in that picture and yes, I am 5 months on T and I'm working out so I can get rid of those damn hips.
@Ephemeral Your binding is coming out looking good. Plus being on T you'll start to see your fat redistribute ( I mean after 1 year or more) so that will help too but don't stress too much because you're doing well so far man! Also, I am 24 so thanks!
Quote from: thatboyfresh on July 16, 2014, 12:30:39 PM
@Ephemeral Your binding is coming out looking good. Plus being on T you'll start to see your fat redistribute ( I mean after 1 year or more) so that will help too but don't stress too much because you're doing well so far man! Also, I am 24 so thanks!
I actually began noticing it moving about 2 months in because my stomach began growing noticeably bigger. This was before I began working out though. With that said, I don't have any estrogen production left because I have no ovaries so normal rules don't really apply to me when it comes to when things happen, heh. Overall I have noticed changes a lot faster than what's common given my dose . Hopefully that will speed up the process further.
Quote from: katnip97 on July 12, 2014, 12:33:00 PM
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Ok I haven't read everything in this thread, but I'd like to know if I pass...I'm pre-everything, even pre-binder because I just ordered one and it hasn't arrived yet. Honest and detailed opinions please, I'm really curious to know if I could pass :)
I disagree with everyone else. I think the angle of the picture makes your chin look narrower though which probably doesn't help at all. I could see you passing as a VERY YOUNG boy though. It would depend on many factors other than face, your face is stuck in the middle right now to me. Very andro.
Quote from: Ephemeral on July 16, 2014, 10:58:13 AM
Another bunch of pictures but I am mostly interested in what you guys think of my body shape:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1314.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft567%2Fkamishi584%2FDSC_0106_zpse6d29c6b.jpg&hash=c0231a61cedb1997767f7cd1152f0cde2bad6d73) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/kamishi584/media/DSC_0106_zpse6d29c6b.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1314.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft567%2Fkamishi584%2FDSC_0105_zpsc45c88a3.jpg&hash=4c97518fc92f870e417c88f1eb477a845c89a022) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/kamishi584/media/DSC_0105_zpsc45c88a3.jpg.html)
Sorry for the last one being a little blurry.
Ephemeral, your body looks more masculine than mine at 5 months on T and I think you pass quite well.
Quote from: SX0877 on July 16, 2014, 03:43:35 PM
Ephemeral, your body looks more masculine than mine at 5 months on T and I think you pass quite well.
Cool thanks. But yeah, been working out quite a lot in order to speed it up. Hips really do cause a lot of dysphoria though... Losing the fat there is taking forever sigh.
I like this thread a lot! I love handsome guys haha,. ok I'll post too!; (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0BjEGlH.jpg&hash=7f8f8107c9ba085c511f4719d57dd1e63d3a21e7)
SX0877- I have that same tank top. I think you could pass
niko- can't really tell from that picture if you pass or not :) you are sort of obscured
Quote from: Ephemeral on July 16, 2014, 10:59:37 AM
You pass on this picture though there are still traces that make you look female. It's to do with your eyes and cheeks. If you had long hair and a feminine cut I would probably think of you as female. Also, do your pick your brows? I think that could also lead to such a perception.
LOL I just style my hair and shave my beard...that's all I do to my face. No eye brow picking...
Well I know I don't pass well in real life.
Quote from: niko on July 16, 2014, 08:25:49 PM
I like this thread a lot! I love handsome guys haha,. ok I'll post too!; (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0BjEGlH.jpg&hash=7f8f8107c9ba085c511f4719d57dd1e63d3a21e7)
Your phone covered quite a bit of your face so I can't say for sure.
Thank you guys for the feedback, I appreciate it! I often feel insecure about passing, so feedback always makes me feel a little better at least. Fun Fact: I can't (and won't) state my age, but I am around those ages so I'll just enjoy somewhat looking my age until a couple years when I get older and still look the same, lol.
Quote from: thatboyfresh on July 16, 2014, 12:05:20 PM
Heres me one week T
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F29nzcw4.jpg&hash=c8ede4c0e5d0807011dc805a6b111c3b1c7acd4e)
Heres me 10.5 months T
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2Frm7nzb.jpg&hash=00b2232709cb437b1a2f4fd8533c865892d73fa6)
You look like a man to me in both pictures. Jealous of that rad facial hair in the second picture. :)
ok I tried taking a new pic where my face showed better: (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwpzVqx3.jpg&hash=832a25da400a118c039982373cdf536550a4b4e2)
Quote from: niko on July 18, 2014, 09:13:34 AM
ok I tried taking a new pic where my face showed better: (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwpzVqx3.jpg&hash=832a25da400a118c039982373cdf536550a4b4e2)
Definite pass. :D
Quote from: thatboyfresh on July 16, 2014, 12:05:20 PM
@Ephemeral I think your shape is actually pretty good. There is a slight dip in your waste giving that "dreaded hour glass figure" but it's only slight which is helpful. I am guessing under normal shirts and clothing it's hardly noticeable. Not sure if you are on T or not? Also not sure if you are binding but your chest looking pretty flat as well !
As for me I was wondering if T has made me look closer to my age at all. Before I could pass for like 16 or so. I think I have made some progress at least (Hopefully).
Heres me 10.5 months T
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2Frm7nzb.jpg&hash=00b2232709cb437b1a2f4fd8533c865892d73fa6)
Any scrutiny is welcome :)
If you don't mind a girl's opinion, you look all male to me. I don't see where you'd have any problems passing at all.
Allie :icon_flower:
@Maleth Ah thanks!. I wish I was more beardly but it's slowly but surely creeping in
@Allyda Girls opinions are the best :) ! I usually 95% pass as male but usually only as a teenager.
Quote from: niko on July 18, 2014, 09:13:34 AM
ok I tried taking a new pic where my face showed better: (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwpzVqx3.jpg&hash=832a25da400a118c039982373cdf536550a4b4e2)
From what I can see pass for me dude!
Quote from: niko on July 18, 2014, 09:13:34 AM
ok I tried taking a new pic where my face showed better: (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwpzVqx3.jpg&hash=832a25da400a118c039982373cdf536550a4b4e2)
Yes, you pass 100%! Your face seems very masculine.
so i hit my 5 months on T mark, felin pretty babe like rn B]
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/aaed8ca760f9eb878612cb57ff1e8e25/tumblr_n8y6rlFx0R1s7ykcco2_500.jpg)
Quote from: BeefxCake on July 19, 2014, 05:41:59 AM
so i hit my 5 months on T mark, felin pretty babe like rn B]
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/aaed8ca760f9eb878612cb57ff1e8e25/tumblr_n8y6rlFx0R1s7ykcco2_500.jpg)
Man that jawline! Lookin' good there sir!
Quote from: Evan of Spades on July 19, 2014, 12:56:33 PM
Man that jawline! Lookin' good there sir!
yeah i'm pretty jealous of the jawline also beefcake, looking good!
haha thanks, i feel like my jaw is the only masculine feature i have XD i have little dainty hands and feet. and rather soft and squishy all over but a jaw that could slay XD
Haven't posted here for a while, thought I'd throw a couple pictures up.
My hair is a bit longer now and I got some new glasses. x3 Kinda hoping they help me pass a bit better. I am pre-T.
Sorry, I know the last one is a bit blurry, and I'm not wearing a binder, but ehhhhh, oh well. XP
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi34.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fd138%2Fkailiam42%2F100_59011_zps9448fceb.jpg&hash=604ce041c622463540289b47995090d213dd1b79)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi34.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fd138%2Fkailiam42%2F100_5844_zps3fe844ca.jpg&hash=2e9a9da4a1e6d2f79151615f21b01218a0cc3ded)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi34.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fd138%2Fkailiam42%2F100_59161_zpsc3ef28fc.jpg&hash=848fa10860b139393137a780bbfa7a92a8a0049c)
Hey chaps and chapettes! :D
I have been following the thread for a while and I decided to finally pluck up the courage to join up and post a little something myself.
So I guess, this is my first post ever! Nice to meet you all! :]
I'm pre-t (for now), hoping to get on it soon, or at least the waiting list and then onto other things in the future.
Unfortunately I've been quite painfully dysphoric these days, so it has taken a long while for me to pluck up the courage to post on here. :[
You are all such handsome chaps on this thread! :D
~ Elliott
<I removed the photos, because I was only intending to show them for a little bit>
Elliot I think the blue hair is awesome!!! And I think you pass great as a younger guy!
Quote from: KamTheMan on July 20, 2014, 12:09:43 PM
Elliot I think the blue hair is awesome!!! And I think you pass great as a younger guy!
Oh, thank you so much! ; 7 ;
Definite pass, Elliott. Young, yes, but definitely young male.
I love the hair. And jealous. We can't dye our hair colors at my job.
Edit: 7/20 curse you Swype, and your convenience but frequent typos when I don't pay close enough attention!
Quote from: devention on July 20, 2014, 07:09:43 PM
Definite pass, Elliott. Young, yes, but definitely young male.
I love the hair. And jealous. We can't dye our hair colors at my job.
Edit: 7/20 curse you Swype, and your convenience but frequent typos when I don't pay close enough attention!
Thank you very much! :icon_joy: :icon_rockon:
I think I would hate not being allowed different colours and such at a job. :[
But hey-ho, that's how it is sometimes!
Quote from: Moimoinen on July 20, 2014, 11:31:54 AM
Hey chaps and chapettes! :D
I have been following the thread for a while and I decided to finally pluck up the courage to join up and post a little something myself.
So I guess, this is my first post ever! Nice to meet you all! :]
I'm pre-t (for now), hoping to get on it soon, or at least the waiting list and then onto other things in the future.
Unfortunately I've been quite painfully dysphoric these days, so it has taken a long while for me to pluck up the courage to post on here. :[
You are all such handsome chaps on this thread! :D
Just to let you know, I'm planning on dying the hair dark brown, it won't always be so blue :D
~ Elliott
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F13zsrba.jpg&hash=0ab8e14d706c739b8808a14d95186ca04cc9a9be)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2Fj8h8aq.jpg&hash=edcff627d3964300324947f8351f90cea4da93ab)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F2l9mkuc.jpg&hash=7ade0a15b09e41963ee2086b0a36315fb4be0a50)
Heck Yes you look awesome dude!
Quote from: Moimoinen on July 20, 2014, 11:31:54 AM
Hey chaps and chapettes! :D
I have been following the thread for a while and I decided to finally pluck up the courage to join up and post a little something myself.
So I guess, this is my first post ever! Nice to meet you all! :]
I'm pre-t (for now), hoping to get on it soon, or at least the waiting list and then onto other things in the future.
Unfortunately I've been quite painfully dysphoric these days, so it has taken a long while for me to pluck up the courage to post on here. :[
You are all such handsome chaps on this thread! :D
Just to let you know, I'm planning on dying the hair dark brown, it won't always be so blue :D
~ Elliott
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F13zsrba.jpg&hash=0ab8e14d706c739b8808a14d95186ca04cc9a9be)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2Fj8h8aq.jpg&hash=edcff627d3964300324947f8351f90cea4da93ab)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F2l9mkuc.jpg&hash=7ade0a15b09e41963ee2086b0a36315fb4be0a50)
Yup, you definitely pass and awesome hair bro.
Ok *deep breath* here it goes
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2Flimnt.jpg&hash=dbd19df4c0d8b24d94c4c12dacc7821869b90d03)
@ Elliot - I'm not 100% sure, I'd probably go more with androgynous, but if I did say male it would definitely be 14-15 years old. But more masculine than feminine, for sure.
@ Riot Wild - Sorry, mate, but it's a no from me. I think it's probably more of a combination of your hairstyle, necklace and glasses than actual physical features. I think with a different hairstyle, it would definitely make a difference.
Quote from: Moimoinen on July 20, 2014, 11:31:54 AM
Hey chaps and chapettes! :D
I have been following the thread for a while and I decided to finally pluck up the courage to join up and post a little something myself.
So I guess, this is my first post ever! Nice to meet you all! :]
I'm pre-t (for now), hoping to get on it soon, or at least the waiting list and then onto other things in the future.
Unfortunately I've been quite painfully dysphoric these days, so it has taken a long while for me to pluck up the courage to post on here. :[
You are all such handsome chaps on this thread! :D
Just to let you know, I'm planning on dying the hair dark brown, it won't always be so blue :D
~ Elliott
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F13zsrba.jpg&hash=0ab8e14d706c739b8808a14d95186ca04cc9a9be)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2Fj8h8aq.jpg&hash=edcff627d3964300324947f8351f90cea4da93ab)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F2l9mkuc.jpg&hash=7ade0a15b09e41963ee2086b0a36315fb4be0a50)
slurp...slurp...give...me... *-*
Quote from: Kreuzfidel on July 21, 2014, 03:10:50 AM
@ Elliot - I'm not 100% sure, I'd probably go more with androgynous, but if I did say male it would definitely be 14-15 years old. But more masculine than feminine, for sure.
Ahh, that's good enough for me! Nothing wrong with androgynous, as long as I can pass for anything more than female then anything is good. :]
Quote from: Riot Wild on July 21, 2014, 12:59:28 AM
Ok *deep breath* here it goes
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2Flimnt.jpg&hash=dbd19df4c0d8b24d94c4c12dacc7821869b90d03)
Hmm, I'm kind of half and half with this. There is something masculine there though, at least in my eyes! I think as Kreuzfidel said, it may be the hair that gives it away.
Quote from: Skyler Lusk on July 21, 2014, 03:26:30 AM
slurp...slurp...give...me... *-*
Hahaha, oh you! :icon_redface:
Yeah I figured I didn't. So do you think a haircut would help? My only problem is I have naturally super curly hair. If I cut it too short I'll end up with baby curls that I won't be able to straighten. Any suggestions?
If you keep your hair long, pull it back from your face. The main problem is your face shape. It's very round, and brains automatically take round faces as feminine. When hair frames the face, it over emphasizes the roundness of it.
two months on T, can't believe its that long already
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi438.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fqq106%2Feastrenegade%2Fphoto_zpsb1fbb57a.jpg&hash=0f8a6d7ea97924b48f94b1ec24ae033198b007ab) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/eastrenegade/media/photo_zpsb1fbb57a.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi438.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fqq106%2Feastrenegade%2Fphoto11_zpsfda888a8.jpg&hash=99f6c746078a0b975ce0031aa37009c459d5cb69) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/eastrenegade/media/photo11_zpsfda888a8.jpg.html)
2 months and you already have facial hair? :D isn't that super fast?
Quote from: melanie maritz on July 21, 2014, 12:29:54 PM
2 months and you already have facial hair? :D isn't that super fast?
He might have had many male characteristics already before starting HRT.
I'm pre-T and I have hair everywhere, even a slight mustache if I let it grow out for a month.
Quote from: Blue Senpai on July 21, 2014, 03:38:00 PM
He might have had many male characteristics already before starting HRT.
I'm pre-T and I have hair everywhere, even a slight mustache if I let it grow out for a month.
yup lol same here, i have a happy trail and arm pit hair equivalent to cis males XD
lol yeah I was able to grow a stache before hrt, but it wasn't as noticeable, its become more noticeable now since starting T and I have a few hairs popping up under my chin, that I like to rub lol
I pass most of the time, but many people think that I'm 12 or 13. Sorry my room is so messy!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.servimg.com%2Fu%2Ff39%2F18%2F77%2F15%2F87%2Fimage27.jpg&hash=8c2b80d38caefa57a5926553989a138f7d38269d) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=18&u=18771587)
Quote from: 4736251 on July 22, 2014, 01:16:51 PM
I pass most of the time, but many people think that I'm 12 or 13. Sorry my room is so messy!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.servimg.com%2Fu%2Ff39%2F18%2F77%2F15%2F87%2Fimage27.jpg&hash=8c2b80d38caefa57a5926553989a138f7d38269d) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=18&u=18771587)
You seem to pass very well! Although those socks are very long! :D
Hey ya'll, I have been feeling rather dysphoric lately so I decided to try to get my mood up, but I am not sure if I pass with this hairstyle so I thought I would ask you guys here.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10382012_1447051615574586_1063102622278302442_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t1.0-9/1907408_1447051622241252_3223406476633963892_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10521618_1447051808907900_2072058228486020095_n.jpg?oh=701ae26d803e4ab7db3c53a7bc01bdd6&oe=54492563&__gda__=1413658675_6be214c4e7fc0ee2ed33ba7215a9da3b)
(https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/996116_1447051832241231_909425630260331132_n.jpg?oh=1db9fcebb53f46f40ecb19a2efec3974&oe=5446D3EF)
Quote from: Ryan55 on July 22, 2014, 01:03:38 PM
lol yeah I was able to grow a stache before hrt, but it wasn't as noticeable, its become more noticeable now since starting T and I have a few hairs popping up under my chin, that I like to rub lol
Considering that, I might just have a fast transition like you! ;D
No responses for mine? I take it that means I still don't pass at all. xD Haha, oh well.
Riot Wild, I think you have passing potential, but I agree with the others. It's the hair. Don't worry, you're not the only one. xD I prefer long hair myself. I know it doesn't help me pass any, but I am stubborn. xP
Ryan55, 2 months on T and you look awesome! You definitely pass. x3
4736251, You look like you pass to me. :) But yeah, you do look pretty young. Don't worry, you're not the only one with that problem either. xP
Dalex! Looking awesome as always, my friend. x3 That haircut defiantly suits you better than the last. You get a pass from me. x3
Kaiden sorry I skipped you dude. Depending on how your body shape looks in person I'd actually say pretty good pass. Your haircut and face shape actually work well together in my opinion. Keep it!!!
Dalex don't stress, I think you pass for a young guy.
4736251, pass, I'd say like 15.
Ryan, you look awesome dude.
I got a haircut. I walked in and told the woman I kept getting mistaken for a girl and wanted a more masculine cut.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2Fb6pjic.jpg&hash=9f5ea01b1c607764e957052b8a84a5eb4101cbec)
My head feels so much cooler. So how well do I pass now?
Quote from: Riot Wild on July 22, 2014, 10:40:24 PM
I got a haircut. I walked in and told the woman I kept getting mistaken for a girl and wanted a more masculine cut.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2Fb6pjic.jpg&hash=9f5ea01b1c607764e957052b8a84a5eb4101cbec)
My head feels so much cooler. So how well do I pass now?
WOAH! much love :3, a haircut really changes your appearance. I would say a definite improvement :) ; you look masculine androgynous now as in it could go either way much more leaning male.
be strong be brave \o/
~Sky
Quote from: Riot Wild on July 22, 2014, 10:40:24 PM
I got a haircut. I walked in and told the woman I kept getting mistaken for a girl and wanted a more masculine cut.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2Fb6pjic.jpg&hash=9f5ea01b1c607764e957052b8a84a5eb4101cbec)
My head feels so much cooler. So how well do I pass now?
A+ passing! You look great! :D
Quote from: ~Kaiden on July 22, 2014, 06:28:40 PM
No responses for mine? I take it that means I still don't pass at all. xD Haha, oh well.
I think you have a lot of passing potential! ;D What's holding you back for me is the roundness of the glasses. Are they men's frames? I always make sure to shop on the mens side at the optometrist because the square frames make my face look more angular and masculine. I know round frames don't do ME any favors lol (hope this helps!) :angel:
here's mine I guess :) (not binding in the second pic)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F20ksvok.jpg&hash=efbc364c644b385d7d8dc8a80b2e83b1bc6923c5)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F2isutcw.jpg&hash=fc3b8c8cdca345be72dd67238fc920d2596d0f0f)
Quote from: padawanloser on July 23, 2014, 01:28:40 AM
here's mine I guess :) (not binding in the second pic)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F20ksvok.jpg&hash=efbc364c644b385d7d8dc8a80b2e83b1bc6923c5)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F2isutcw.jpg&hash=fc3b8c8cdca345be72dd67238fc920d2596d0f0f)
mmmmmmmmmmm love it ;3
the second picture is kinda distorted though o_0
Dang it. I thought I replied to you, Kaiden. I'd say yes, but I think you'd benefit from either a hair cut or growing it out a little more. Chin length hair is more of a feminine hair style. I'd recommend keeping it short to make it not frame your face do much. It helps cut down on the "rounded feminine" look.
Quote from: Riot Wild on July 22, 2014, 10:40:24 PM
I got a haircut. I walked in and told the woman I kept getting mistaken for a girl and wanted a more masculine cut.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2Fb6pjic.jpg&hash=9f5ea01b1c607764e957052b8a84a5eb4101cbec)
My head feels so much cooler. So how well do I pass now?
This is so much better! Definitely more masculine.
wow. A lot has happeened since I've looked at this thread.
Kaiden- I read you as androgynous
Riot Wild- the haircut made a huge different. great look man
dalex- you pass for me
skyler lusk- sorry, you don't really pass for me. I'll try to think about why
Quote from: Skyler Lusk on July 23, 2014, 02:46:48 AM
the second picture is kinda distorted though o_0
lol I think it just looks that way cuz of my crazy zebra harem pants xD they've got a droopy crotch and skinny legs :laugh:
Quote from: padawanloser on July 23, 2014, 01:28:40 AM
here's mine I guess :) (not binding in the second pic)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F20ksvok.jpg&hash=efbc364c644b385d7d8dc8a80b2e83b1bc6923c5)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F2isutcw.jpg&hash=fc3b8c8cdca345be72dd67238fc920d2596d0f0f)
Sorry, you don't pass. The facial structure, smooth skin and the short haircut instantly give you away.
Sorry Padawan. It's a no from me too. To me it's because you have very shaped eyebrows (even if it's naturally like that) and your hair also doesn't help much. Honestly I find the glasses to make your face look smaller as well which seems feminizing to me. Your clothes are pretty andro (gotta say I like your style though!) so while they don't hinder they don't help either. Overall you have an awesome look so go for it if that's what you like, but you don't pass too well this way :/ Guys tend to be pretty conservative traditionally with their looks so that would be my advice if you're interested.
Quote from: padawanloser on July 23, 2014, 10:21:05 AM
lol I think it just looks that way cuz of my crazy zebra harem pants xD they've got a droopy crotch and skinny legs :laugh:
ya thats probably it lol, androgynous looking but you look hawt ;) (i guess thats not really helpful advice though...)
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the first pic looks more masculine then the second one; would say due to the binding and more conservative side of clothes, smaller framed glasses would help, but those still look nice.
Quote from: Ephemeral on July 16, 2014, 10:58:13 AM
Another bunch of pictures but I am mostly interested in what you guys think of my body shape:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1314.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft567%2Fkamishi584%2FDSC_0106_zpse6d29c6b.jpg&hash=c0231a61cedb1997767f7cd1152f0cde2bad6d73) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/kamishi584/media/DSC_0106_zpse6d29c6b.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1314.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft567%2Fkamishi584%2FDSC_0105_zpsc45c88a3.jpg&hash=4c97518fc92f870e417c88f1eb477a845c89a022) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/kamishi584/media/DSC_0105_zpsc45c88a3.jpg.html)
Sorry for the last one being a little blurry.
Hips and buttocks are very feminine
Quote from: Evan of Spades on July 23, 2014, 11:49:06 AM
Sorry Padawan. It's a no from me too. To me it's because you have very shaped eyebrows (even if it's naturally like that) and your hair also doesn't help much. Honestly I find the glasses to make your face look smaller as well which seems feminizing to me. Your clothes are pretty andro (gotta say I like your style though!) so while they don't hinder they don't help either. Overall you have an awesome look so go for it if that's what you like, but you don't pass too well this way :/ Guys tend to be pretty conservative traditionally with their looks so that would be my advice if you're interested.
Thanks for the input Evan! ;D I'll admit, I do lean toward feminine fashion so I doubt I'll ever pass as a traditionally masculine male unless I wear my boyfriend's clothes :P My fashion idols are people like Andrej Pejic and Jeffree Starr (so VERY andro/femme guys). I do shape my eyebrows but even if I didn't I have really weak brows and often fill them out with brow liner or shadow (which I know doesn't help me much either lol) But anyway, I'm okay with looking andro for now... maybe once I start T and bulk up a little and pass a little better :-\
Quote from: padawanloser on July 23, 2014, 07:34:19 PM
Thanks for the input Evan! ;D I'll admit, I do lean toward feminine fashion so I doubt I'll ever pass as a traditionally masculine male unless I wear my boyfriend's clothes :P My fashion idols are people like Andrej Pejic and Jeffree Starr (so VERY andro/femme guys). I do shape my eyebrows but even if I didn't I have really weak brows and often fill them out with brow liner or shadow (which I know doesn't help me much either lol) But anyway, I'm okay with looking andro for now... maybe once I start T and bulk up a little and pass a little better :-\
I get my eyebrows done too, don't feel bad lol. I think its just your face looks feminine, once you start T it should change eventually into a more masculine looking face.
Quote from: Riot Wild on July 22, 2014, 10:40:24 PM
I got a haircut. I walked in and told the woman I kept getting mistaken for a girl and wanted a more masculine cut.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2Fb6pjic.jpg&hash=9f5ea01b1c607764e957052b8a84a5eb4101cbec)
My head feels so much cooler. So how well do I pass now?
Makes a huge difference, mate. Pass for me.
Quote from: ItsNick on July 23, 2014, 09:53:28 PM
Hi so I am very new to this, I'm Pre-T.
This is my hair all crazy like, sorry it's a bad picture OTL
(https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=79dec01adc&view=fimg&th=14766469a1a26a78&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&attbid=ANGjdJ9XPPx8FKbW2JYSJ_6kWi-JXRd74kIHB5MS4nbFV4Auh8zCh2ETOZ7KreE_AzBiUlnbbAXwBORRHXwKrtAg8DefSf9cJFVVFqbkh2g7RgVb9gB2ZWtSJCFyQFw&ats=1406170214939&rm=14766469a1a26a78&zw&sz=w1342-h546)
I can't even see the image, upload the photo to Imgur and link it here.
Whoops, sorry, for some reason it shows up on my screen.
Pre-t person here
This was my hair longer (previously)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrhLiKkv.jpg&hash=805b43292d9e80976140d32c9002a2447b6ec94b)
And this is the recent haircut, which is very curly when my hair is wet
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXjMu63n.jpg&hash=9a58e941bf9cd1d8c4198b9c83dad47920bd2eea)
it's a long time i didn't post here,i'm not even sure if you guys still remember me..anyway i'm still not on T yet but i was working out a lot just wondring if i still pass or not...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.0zz0.com%2F2014%2F07%2F24%2F06%2F895362557.jpg&hash=4a3d303db254c615d73e279ba82a62d144fc26f0) (http://www.0zz0.com)
Picture spam (somewhat different camera angles, idk which one is the most accurate of how I look like IRL because my camera has that lens issue where everything outside of the center area makes it bloated):
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1314.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft567%2Fkamishi584%2FDSC_0015_zpsb3cc04a3.jpg&hash=0b406e7badab688f31064978fe0cefdc9e2c1903) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/kamishi584/media/DSC_0015_zpsb3cc04a3.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1314.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft567%2Fkamishi584%2FDSC_0022_zps3ba59909.jpg&hash=2d8f5e9946f445662f028ff53d2047ae852eaef2) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/kamishi584/media/DSC_0022_zps3ba59909.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1314.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft567%2Fkamishi584%2FDSC_0021_zps97059c4d.jpg&hash=23e6a6b5504575f20de436a87fddb698b740f4df) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/kamishi584/media/DSC_0021_zps97059c4d.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1314.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft567%2Fkamishi584%2FDSC_0020_zpsb93be24a.jpg&hash=8aaf6b4042ccbb698fbb310aad0c2b90891bd672) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/kamishi584/media/DSC_0020_zpsb93be24a.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1314.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft567%2Fkamishi584%2FDSC_0017_zps1d64a60a.jpg&hash=7ac32981e9833663aa7aa036bad0c0703873f080) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/kamishi584/media/DSC_0017_zps1d64a60a.jpg.html)
Looks like I lost some more weight?
ItsNick- You pass and the haircut is great
jossef- I think you pass although I think different glasses would help you pass better
Ephemeral- your face is a total pass to me. Your body shape is a lot like mine and I have a lot of troubles passing.
Quote from: christopher on July 24, 2014, 09:38:05 AM
Ephemeral- your face is a total pass to me. Your body shape is a lot like mine and I have a lot of troubles passing.
Yeah I really don't know. I asked the GF earlier and she said it would be a lot easier if I had smaller hips. A lot of it is probably fat because if I pull in all the extra I get a quite different impression though of course, I doubt I may actually end up with significantly broader shoulders than hips unless I work out my upper body a lot. It's just so damn frustrating. I would probably pass really well if I was just shaped a little differently but getting rid of fat accumulated over 10 years of inactivity isn't all that easy. Then it's all the bone mass... My hips began to grow a little in my late teens and early 20s.
Ephemeral, You look like a younger version of character Jim Morita from Captain America: The First Avenger.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20110831084029%2Fmarveldatabase%2Fimages%2F1%2F15%2FKennethchoi_captainamerica02.jpg&hash=bf5df008b961e5c61e3732739df5ca2f31ffd56c)
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on July 24, 2014, 10:04:04 AM
Ephemeral, You look like a younger version of character Jim Morita from Captain America: The First Avenger.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20110831084029%2Fmarveldatabase%2Fimages%2F1%2F15%2FKennethchoi_captainamerica02.jpg&hash=bf5df008b961e5c61e3732739df5ca2f31ffd56c)
That's cool though, thanks.
Though I realized no one actually answered the question whether I seem to pass or not, heh. I am not sure how to interpret that.
Čau
Quote from: Ephemeral on July 24, 2014, 10:49:37 AM
Though I realized no one actually answered the question whether I seem to pass or not, heh.
Really? :) You do :)
Quote from: Ephemeral on July 24, 2014, 12:11:33 PM
What about my body shape?
The face is really androgynous so I can't exactly tell.
As for the body shape...I looked at all the pictures and see female.
Not sure if it's because I can see hints of curves or what...
Quote from: Neospector on July 24, 2014, 12:22:52 PM
The face is really androgynous so I can't exactly tell.
As for the body shape...I looked at all the pictures and see female.
Not sure if it's because I can see hints of curves or what...
lol you are the only one who thinks I'm androgynously looking though!
Quote from: Ephemeral on July 24, 2014, 12:31:01 PM
lol you are the only one who thinks I'm androgynously looking though!
I'm not familiar with Asian people due to their rarity. Are you pre-T or already on HRT?
Quote from: Neospector on July 24, 2014, 12:38:30 PM
I'm not familiar with Asian people due to their rarity. Are you pre-T or already on HRT?
5 months in.
Quote from: Ephemeral on July 24, 2014, 12:40:39 PM
5 months in.
Well...your current voice (depending how significant the change is) helps for the moment.
I'm not exactly convinced with the physical passing but it could be a different story later on.
Sorry man. :-\
Quote from: Neospector on July 24, 2014, 12:46:12 PM
Well...your current voice (depending how significant the change is) helps for the moment.
I'm not exactly convinced with the physical passing but it could be a different story later on.
Sorry man. :-\
np, though I'd like more opinions.
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np, though I'd like more opinions.
You genuinely pass to me! If I saw you in the street I wouldn't even bat an eyelid because your photo screams guy to me personally.
Does having lip piercings help me pass? (I'm pre-T).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.servimg.com%2Fu%2Ff39%2F18%2F77%2F15%2F87%2Fimage28.jpg&hash=7d096508ea98e2d2e5e7a95ff28cc013a1cb120b) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=19&u=18771587)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.servimg.com%2Fu%2Ff39%2F18%2F77%2F15%2F87%2Fimage29.jpg&hash=3c02713928159bfaecb3674f62daee1db70f09c4) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=20&u=18771587)
Quote from: 4736251 on July 24, 2014, 02:29:43 PM
Does having lip piercings help me pass? (I'm pre-T).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.servimg.com%2Fu%2Ff39%2F18%2F77%2F15%2F87%2Fimage28.jpg&hash=7d096508ea98e2d2e5e7a95ff28cc013a1cb120b) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=19&u=18771587)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.servimg.com%2Fu%2Ff39%2F18%2F77%2F15%2F87%2Fimage29.jpg&hash=3c02713928159bfaecb3674f62daee1db70f09c4) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=20&u=18771587)
In my opinion snakebites are very androgynous/masculine so good choice! ;D
Quote from: jossef-ftm on July 24, 2014, 01:12:16 AM
it's a long time i didn't post here,i'm not even sure if you guys still remember me..anyway i'm still not on T yet but i was working out a lot just wondring if i still pass or not...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.0zz0.com%2F2014%2F07%2F24%2F06%2F895362557.jpg&hash=4a3d303db254c615d73e279ba82a62d144fc26f0) (http://www.0zz0.com)
big thumbs up! :icon_yes:
Hey, thanks for the input guys. :) Sounds like I'm sorta half way there, so that's better than before. xD Kam, thanks man! :D I was hoping for that. xD Probably will keep it for a while. x3 Padawon, I have no idea if they are supposed to be mens or womens glasses, I got them from a big rack of random glasses at the dollar store. xD Perhaps next time I am there I will look for one that's a bit more square. x3
I know the hair doesn't help much either. xD I tried cutting it short a while back though and I didn't like it very much. I'm just not a short hair kinda guy, I guess. xD Idk, I like my look right now so I think I will stick with this for a while. And yeah, darn my round face! It seems no matter how short my hair is my face tends to give me away. xP
But anyways....!
Riot Wild, nice haircut dude! You definitely pass much better now. :D
Padawon, kinda andro I would say, but very close! You definitely got potential!
Ephemeral, your body shape doesn't look that feminine to me. You pass in my opinion. ^^
Nick, I'd say you pass for a young guy. :)
Jossef, definite pass!
i tend to pass as a young boy quite easily irl, but i feel like the camera just drains anything vaguely masculine about my face and enriches the feminine e_e
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1309.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs629%2FDuraiku%2Fyikes_zps19c34211.png&hash=795dcf44ab63f458ef7304c8a4c376f3479eca8e)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1309.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs629%2FDuraiku%2Fyikess_zps37761fac.png&hash=f7df945cdc55389b5d5ccd38e993fc45ed1aa7c2)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1309.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs629%2FDuraiku%2Fyikesss_zps62187cb2.png&hash=69f71f2d8e796103d23d7ae9ddbcb20de80c81b8)
lesson learnt: trying to take selfies with a hyperactive dog is tricky and ends up in me making funny faces while trying to coo her to stay still. here's a personal favourite "failed attempt" of mine:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1309.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs629%2FDuraiku%2Flunapls_zps0c884bab.png&hash=e87fd9df25c6d73af079fac0d7e145ae09913d62)
oh, pup.
Quote from: chaotic on July 24, 2014, 04:17:09 PM
i tend to pass as a young boy quite easily irl, but i feel like the camera just drains anything vaguely masculine about my face and enriches the feminine e_e]
Well maybe a bit, but there's nothing un-masculine about being young and cute.
Quote from: chaotic on July 24, 2014, 04:17:09 PM
lesson learnt: trying to take selfies with a hyperactive dog is tricky and ends up in me making funny faces while trying to coo her to stay still. here's a personal favourite "failed attempt" of mine:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1309.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs629%2FDuraiku%2Flunapls_zps0c884bab.png&hash=e87fd9df25c6d73af079fac0d7e145ae09913d62)
oh, pup.
My dog "Cody" says hi to your pup!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F320x240q90%2F845%2F4irb.jpg&hash=9b0fb46af6a80a5ca3dc9160552f992ffd4eb776) (https://imageshack.com/i/nh4irbj)
Quote from: Ephemeral on July 24, 2014, 07:12:02 AM
Picture spam (somewhat different camera angles, idk which one is the most accurate of how I look like IRL because my camera has that lens issue where everything outside of the center area makes it bloated):
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1314.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft567%2Fkamishi584%2FDSC_0015_zpsb3cc04a3.jpg&hash=0b406e7badab688f31064978fe0cefdc9e2c1903) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/kamishi584/media/DSC_0015_zpsb3cc04a3.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1314.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft567%2Fkamishi584%2FDSC_0022_zps3ba59909.jpg&hash=2d8f5e9946f445662f028ff53d2047ae852eaef2) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/kamishi584/media/DSC_0022_zps3ba59909.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1314.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft567%2Fkamishi584%2FDSC_0021_zps97059c4d.jpg&hash=23e6a6b5504575f20de436a87fddb698b740f4df) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/kamishi584/media/DSC_0021_zps97059c4d.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1314.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft567%2Fkamishi584%2FDSC_0020_zpsb93be24a.jpg&hash=8aaf6b4042ccbb698fbb310aad0c2b90891bd672) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/kamishi584/media/DSC_0020_zpsb93be24a.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1314.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft567%2Fkamishi584%2FDSC_0017_zps1d64a60a.jpg&hash=7ac32981e9833663aa7aa036bad0c0703873f080) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/kamishi584/media/DSC_0017_zps1d64a60a.jpg.html)
Looks like I lost some more weight?
I think you look just fine, Ephemeral. You are a pass to me!
Quote from: Shantel on July 24, 2014, 07:11:00 PM
Well maybe a bit, but there's nothing un-masculine about being young and cute.
My dog "Cody" says hi to your pup!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F320x240q90%2F845%2F4irb.jpg&hash=9b0fb46af6a80a5ca3dc9160552f992ffd4eb776) (https://imageshack.com/i/nh4irbj)
thank you! and, what a cutie! he looks like a collie, they're my weakness ;; say hi to him from me + luna!
Plenty of you who could pass better as a male than me pre-transition
Take that for what you will ;D
Keep being awesome/handsome boys :-*
Thanks guys, I feel better. A little.
Quote from: padawanloser on July 23, 2014, 01:28:40 AM
here's mine I guess :) (not binding in the second pic)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F20ksvok.jpg&hash=efbc364c644b385d7d8dc8a80b2e83b1bc6923c5)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F2isutcw.jpg&hash=fc3b8c8cdca345be72dd67238fc920d2596d0f0f)
The facial expressions on top of the already mentioned things.....
Ephemeral, I'm similarly shaped. What I've found to be a huge help is to wear an undershirt with polo or button down over it. It helps make a straighter line from shoulder to hip and masks the curves. I don't think you are too curvy anyway, I think you pass decently in just a tee. Also, don't give up on fat redistribution. I just passed my one year on T mark and am only just starting to see it shift. I dropped a pants size without changing anything. So just give the T time to work. I think you pass well for 5 months on T!
Quote from: Ephemeral on July 24, 2014, 07:12:02 AM
Picture spam (somewhat different camera angles, idk which one is the most accurate of how I look like IRL because my camera has that lens issue where everything outside of the center area makes it bloated):
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Looks like I lost some more weight?
Your face pass, the body not at all...
Also, nice t-shirt.
I don't know why... But I feel all buff and bad ass when I look at this picture... But I was wondering if I pass?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10306381_1451740111772403_7063786783133839832_n.jpg?oh=cfad73e3c4c57cc3fdfdc3b71365ca3c&oe=54553136&__gda__=1413482505_f5b61f3827ddccf7a5d0809f8dafb043)
One of the few pictures I actually like of myself X3
Quote from: Dalex on July 31, 2014, 08:38:05 PM
I don't know why... But I feel all buff and bad ass when I look at this picture... But I was wondering if I pass?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10306381_1451740111772403_7063786783133839832_n.jpg?oh=cfad73e3c4c57cc3fdfdc3b71365ca3c&oe=54553136&__gda__=1413482505_f5b61f3827ddccf7a5d0809f8dafb043)
One of the few pictures I actually like of myself X3
Nice biceps, you do look good Dalex!
Quote from: Dalex on July 31, 2014, 08:38:05 PM
I don't know why... But I feel all buff and bad ass when I look at this picture... But I was wondering if I pass?
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One of the few pictures I actually like of myself X3
Yeah, definite pass - 12-18 year old guy for me.
Quote from: padawanloser on July 23, 2014, 07:34:19 PM
Thanks for the input Evan! ;D I'll admit, I do lean toward feminine fashion so I doubt I'll ever pass as a traditionally masculine male unless I wear my boyfriend's clothes :P My fashion idols are people like Andrej Pejic and Jeffree Starr (so VERY andro/femme guys). I do shape my eyebrows but even if I didn't I have really weak brows and often fill them out with brow liner or shadow (which I know doesn't help me much either lol) But anyway, I'm okay with looking andro for now... maybe once I start T and bulk up a little and pass a little better :-\
Andrej Pejic is a trans woman.
Quote from: aross1015 on August 01, 2014, 01:58:09 AM
Andrej Pejic is a trans woman.
Considering she only just came out as such, not everyone is aware of this.
Different shirt (more loose fit), pants further down:
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It does make a difference though I also got some other pics that don't look as great but I didn't really get a good pose for them either so idk. Also Jesus, I am getting very fit on my arms at least. Do I like it? Hell yeah.
Quote from: Ephemeral on August 02, 2014, 08:23:19 AM
Different shirt (more loose fit), pants further down:
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It does make a difference though I also got some other pics that don't look as great but I didn't really get a good pose for them either so idk. Also Jesus, I am getting very fit on my arms at least. Do I like it? Hell yeah.
Very nice. I would say the neckline on the tshirt is sending you more andro. But it's a great shirt anyway!
Quote from: Ephemeral on August 02, 2014, 08:23:19 AM
Different shirt (more loose fit), pants further down:
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It does make a difference though I also got some other pics that don't look as great but I didn't really get a good pose for them either so idk. Also Jesus, I am getting very fit on my arms at least. Do I like it? Hell yeah.
I can't see any significant changes. This shirt looks small for you and the neckline won't help... IMO, of course.
Quote from: Ephemeral on August 02, 2014, 08:23:19 AM
Different shirt (more loose fit), pants further down:
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It does make a difference though I also got some other pics that don't look as great but I didn't really get a good pose for them either so idk. Also Jesus, I am getting very fit on my arms at least. Do I like it? Hell yeah.
I agree that the neckline is a bit andro but it's an otherwise masculine shirt, I really like it. And for whatever reason, I find that pants sitting a bit further down helps. It's what I tend to do for my jeans. You look a lot more straight up and down this way. I don't really know why it is, but it works xD Anyways you look good man. Your face is hard to see in this pic, but you do have a very masculine face and haircut so you pass really well imo I'd find it hard to see anyone calling you "ma'am".
You know, the other thing that's helping is that the shirt finishes higher up and doesn't go over your hips. I find that really emphasizes any extra shape there is when it goes over.
Quote from: Chimæra on August 02, 2014, 10:45:29 AM
I can't see any significant changes. This shirt looks small for you and the neckline won't help... IMO, of course.
Actually, I think the problem is that the shirt is too big lol. I had to wash it several times at 60 degrees C to get it to a level where it shrunk enough so I wouldn't drown in it. It actually goes further down my hips but I curled it up a little so it won't cover too much because that definitely gives the impression of having rounder hips than what's normal.
Quote from: Evan of Spades on August 02, 2014, 10:46:47 AM
I agree that the neckline is a bit andro but it's an otherwise masculine shirt, I really like it. And for whatever reason, I find that pants sitting a bit further down helps. It's what I tend to do for my jeans. You look a lot more straight up and down this way. I don't really know why it is, but it works xD Anyways you look good man. Your face is hard to see in this pic, but you do have a very masculine face and haircut so you pass really well imo I'd find it hard to see anyone calling you "ma'am".
You know, the other thing that's helping is that the shirt finishes higher up and doesn't go over your hips. I find that really emphasizes any extra shape there is when it goes over.
Yep, I agree. Having shirts going over your hips is a big no no. It really shapes your hips so they become more pronounced. Better to have them finish earlier. I think it relates to how we see lines somehow but not sure.
Also, yes, the shirt's really awesome. It would probably look less derpy/andro if it actually fit though. As it is now it barely fits.
Ephemeral, being an Asian guy myself, I'm so jealous how masculine your face looks.
Also, if you are bothered by your hips/ butt, you can try to wear compression shorts. Underworks carries "hip and butter trimmer" undershorts; one of my friends ordered and was pleased with the effect.
Quote from: SWNID on August 02, 2014, 12:19:33 PM
Ephemeral, being an Asian guy myself, I'm so jealous how masculine your face looks.
Also, if you are bothered by your hips/ butt, you can try to wear compression shorts. Underworks carries "hip and butter trimmer" undershorts; one of my friends ordered and was pleased with the effect.
Yeah, I think I was honestly quite lucky with the basic shape of my face being quite masculine or at least androgynous from the get go. I did look at Underworks' binders earlier but meh. It's also a question of costs. It's cheaper to lose weight, so to speak. Or try to...
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I'm pre-t, I think I pass for a youngish guy
Quote from: kdbrrw on August 03, 2014, 01:25:59 PM
I'm pre-t, I think I pass for a youngish guy
Definitely.
Quote from: Kreuzfidel on July 31, 2014, 09:23:58 PM
Yeah, definite pass - 12-18 year old guy for me.
Thanks :) I'm just glad its a pass :P I try to take having my age guessed that much younger just as a compliment XD Perhaps I will age a bit look wise once I start T :)
Quote from: Shantel on July 31, 2014, 08:51:44 PM
Nice biceps, you do look good Dalex!
Thanks Shantel :)
Andro leaning toward masculine is my reading, Kade. And young. You look like Jimmy (NintendoFanFTW on YouTube) to me.
3 weeks on hormones, nothing drastic....I don't feel like I pass, but am I close? lol
The second one is kinda low quality, sorry
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Quote from: morganFW on August 04, 2014, 09:22:00 AM
3 weeks on hormones, nothing drastic....I don't feel like I pass, but am I close? lol
The second one is kinda low quality, sorry
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I think you pass well already, just young looking.
Quote from: morganFW on August 04, 2014, 09:22:00 AM
3 weeks on hormones, nothing drastic....I don't feel like I pass, but am I close? lol
The second one is kinda low quality, sorry
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Yeah, you look masculine enough. It's just a matter of time of T helping it along.
Not sure how I'll style my hair since it's wavy and short makes me look butch.
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Quote from: Neospector on August 04, 2014, 11:04:38 AM
Yeah, you look masculine enough. It's just a matter of time of T helping it along.
Not sure how I'll style my hair since it's wavy and short makes me look butch.
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i think you pass, just look like a young dude with long hair
i REALLY don't think i pass, but oh well
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morgan- you look andro to me. You'll totally pass in time
kdbrrw- you totally pass. you look really young.
ryanjoseph- it's hard to tell in the picture but I think you could potentially pass
@ morganFW - Yes, a pass for me.
@ Neospector and ryanjoseph - sorry, but a no pass for me. In both cases, IMHO, it's the hair.
Quote from: kdbrrw on August 03, 2014, 01:25:59 PM
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I'm pre-t, I think I pass for a youngish guy
You look quite like my cousin Cameron when he was younger. I'd definitely say male, but you look 18 at most.
Quote from: Kreuzfidel on August 06, 2014, 05:31:24 AM
@ morganFW - Yes, a pass for me.
@ Neospector and ryanjoseph - sorry, but a no pass for me. In both cases, IMHO, it's the hair.
Yeah I figured. I'm actually not trying to pass at all right now and I can't do short hair at the moment.
Quote from: SWNID on August 06, 2014, 10:25:37 AM
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Thought that I could pass well, then some girl met me for the first time and asked if I was trans...
I'd say you pass, but you look about 12, like many of us xD
Neospector, maybe, you look more andro to me but with a masculine leaning
ryanjoseph- i'm gonna say no from this picture, cause of the hair somewhat but mostly because of your facial expression.
I think a little bit of confidence would go a long way towards helping you pass.
Quote from: kdbrrw on August 06, 2014, 12:52:25 PM
Neospector, maybe, you look more andro to me but with a masculine leaning
ryanjoseph- i'm gonna say no from this picture, cause of the hair somewhat but mostly because of your facial expression.
I think a little bit of confidence would go a long way towards helping you pass.
I see. It's only a matter of time with T once I start it.
Morgan you look like a guy to me so pass imo.
Neospector you look kinda andro but your hair pushes it to feminine.
Ryanjoseph, you are really on the edge for me. In one way you look like a guy but another way not so much. I think you definitely have the potential to.
SWNID you pass completely to me. You have a masculine jawline and just overall you look like a guy. I wouldn't think twice seeing you on the street.
Quote from: SWNID on August 06, 2014, 10:25:37 AM
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Thought that I could pass well, then some girl met me for the first time and asked if I was trans...
Pass.
Everyone's looking good!
Haven't posted in a while, passability/age?
I reach my 4 months tomorrow. ;D
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Quote from: beaver on August 07, 2014, 02:12:58 AM
Everyone's looking good!
Haven't posted in a while, passability/age?
I reach my 4 months tomorrow. ;D
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Yep, pass for me.
Quote from: beaver on August 07, 2014, 02:12:58 AM
Everyone's looking good!
Haven't posted in a while, passability/age?
I reach my 4 months tomorrow. ;D
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Boy-ish like me but I blame it on the Asian syndrome. I would say mid-teens. 15-16 based on that picture.
Hey dudes 8) You are all looking great, but it's time for a new one
Please visit The Official 'Do I pass?' topic (Ver 5.0 - in 3-D) (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,170914.msg1492387.html#msg1492387)
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